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- 0:00In this lessons episode, discover how understanding personal tendencies can reveal why people respond differently to expectations.
- 0:07Learn how the four tendencies shape habits, motivation, and relationships.
- 0:10Explore why self-awareness helps work with natural strengths and weaknesses.
- 0:14And uncover practical ways to use that knowledge to create better systems for personal growth.
- 0:25First of all, if you even know what any of these tests are good for you, because that's already a level of self-awareness that I don't even think enough people pay attention to.
- 0:35I knew of these tests.
- 0:36I mean, DISC is a very common hiring test, right?
- 0:40Now people use Myers-Briggs as well.
- 0:42But I think that just having these tools at your disposal.
- 0:46and being able to look inside and understand how you operate in this world I think is very important.
- 0:50It's so powerful.
- 0:51Because you're not leaving life to chance.
- 0:52You know exactly what scenarios you should be putting yourself in, removing yourself from, who you can work with, how you operate, how you work, what stresses you out, what makes you happy, what makes you not so happy.
- 1:04I think these are great tools.
- 1:06I mean, so I want you to just walk through, if you can, like the four tendencies, what they are at a high level,
- 1:13So people can start to wrap their mind around and they're going to listen to it.
- 1:16Oh, that's me.
- 1:16That's me.
- 1:17That's not me.
- 1:18And so on.
- 1:18Yeah.
- 1:19Yeah.
- 1:19Listen to all four before you decide what you are.
- 1:21So I'm going to describe it.
- 1:23And the truth is most people will know exactly what they are from this brief description.
- 1:27But if you want to take a quiz that will spit out an answer and give you a report, you can go to GretchenRubin.com slash quiz.
- 1:34Again, like three million people have taken this quiz.
- 1:36It's free.
- 1:38But again, I'll just describe it briefly.
- 1:40Most people will know what they are.
- 1:42And I will say this is be honest, because sometimes people sort of answer the way they wish they were.
- 1:51But this is all of these tendencies have include people who are wildly successful and also people who struggle.
- 1:57They all have strengths and weaknesses.
- 1:59So, you know, be honest.
- 2:02OK, so what the four tendencies looks at is how you respond to expectations.
- 2:08And we all face two kinds of expectations.
- 2:10Outer expectations like a work deadline, an inner expectation like a request from a friend, no, like a work deadline, an inner expectation like your own desire to keep a New Year's resolution.
- 2:24So depending on whether you meet or resist outer and inner expectations, that's what makes you an upholder, a questioner, an obliger, or a rebel.
- 2:34So upholders are people who readily meet both outer and inner expectations.
- 2:39So they meet the work deadline.
- 2:41They keep the New Year's resolution without much fuss.
- 2:44They're very focused on execution.
- 2:46They love schedules and to-do lists.
- 2:49They don't need a lot of supervision.
- 2:51They're very disciplined.
- 2:54They, once they make up their mind to do something, they'll do it.
- 2:58They tend to love, like, we're doing rules.
- 3:00So their motto is, discipline is my freedom.
- 3:05Then there are questioners.
- 3:07Questioners question all expectations.
- 3:10They'll do something if they think it makes sense.
- 3:12So they're making everything an inner expectation.
- 3:16If something makes sense to them, they'll do it no problem.
- 3:19If it doesn't make sense to them, they will push back.
- 3:22So they love customization.
- 3:24They love reason.
- 3:26They're always asking for more justification.
- 3:29Right.
- 3:30They can sometimes, in fact, suffer from analysis paralysis when their desire for perfect information makes it hard for them to make a decision or move forward.
- 3:39Strangely, a lot of times questioners don't like to answer questions.
- 3:43Funnily enough, they like to teach, but they don't like to be questioned themselves.
- 3:47Ironic but true, I'm married to a questioner.
- 3:48I experienced this myself.
- 3:50So their motto is, I'll comply if you convince me why.
- 3:57Then there are obligers.
- 3:59Obliger is the biggest tendency for both men and women.
- 4:03You either are an obliger or you have many obligers in your life.
- 4:06So obliger needs a lot of attention because it's a big, big category.
- 4:11Obligers readily meet outer expectations, but they struggle to meet inner expectations.
- 4:16So these are the people who say things like, why can I keep my promises to other people, but I can't keep my promises to myself?
- 4:23This is my friend on the track team.
- 4:24When she had a team and a coach waiting for her, she showed up with no problem.
- 4:28But when she was trying to go on her own, she struggled.
- 4:31These are people who talk about the problem of self-care.
- 4:34These are people who talk about why can't I make myself a priority?
- 4:38The solution, and it's a very simple solution for an obliger is even to meet an inner expectation, an obliger must have a system of outer accountability.
- 4:49If you want to read more, join a book group.
- 4:51If you want to exercise, work out with a friend who's going to be annoyed if you don't show up, pay a trainer.
- 4:56Take your dog for a run who's going to be disappointed if she doesn't get to go for a run.
- 5:00Raise money for a charity that's important to you.
- 5:03Think about your duty to be a role model to other people.
- 5:06There's a lot of ways to have outer accountability, but it has to be a form of outer accountability, even for inner expectations.
- 5:15And that's just what works for obligers.
- 5:20But the one thing is spouses and sweethearts often don't make good accountability partners for a very romantic reason.
- 5:26It's like, oh, honey, I'm so close to you that you're like me.
- 5:30And so I'm going to ignore you just the way I would ignore me.
- 5:33So you got to get that outer accountability if you were an obliger.
- 5:37Then the smallest tendency is the rebel.
- 5:39It's a conspicuous tendency, but this is the one that the fewest people fall into.
- 5:44Rebels resist outer and inner expectations alike.
- 5:48They want to do what they want to do.
- 5:51in their own way and in their own time.
- 5:54They can do anything they want to do, anything they choose to do, but if you ask them to do something, they're very likely to resist.
- 6:02And typically they don't tell themselves what to do.
- 6:03Like they don't sign up for the 10 a.m. spin class on Saturday because they think...
- 6:10I don't want to put something on my calendar.
- 6:12And just the idea that somebody is expecting me to show up is going to annoy me.
- 6:16So their motto is, you can't make me and neither can I.
- 6:21And I will say this, as you're thinking about this, if you're thinking to yourself, I question the validity of this framework.
- 6:27You're probably a questioner.
- 6:28And also, if you are thinking to yourself, I fit all four categories, I'm equally all four, that is also a questioner.
- 6:36Because what you're doing is you're saying, well, if it's appropriate to act like a rebel, I'll act like a rebel.
- 6:41But if it's appropriate to act like an upholder, I'll act like an upholder.
- 6:44Because you're saying, why would I act that way?
- 6:47That is a big sign of questioner.
- 6:48Upholders, obligers, and rebels recognize they are firmly in that tendency.
- 6:55So if you're not sure, that's a sign of questioner.
- 6:59Is there benefit to trying or is it even possible to change your category if you recognize who you are?
- 7:09Well, I don't think so.
- 7:11I don't think you can change your tendency.
- 7:12I'm a firm believer in the genetic roots of personality, and I really think that this is something that's hardwired.
- 7:17But also, I don't know why you don't need to change your tendency, because every tendency has strengths and weaknesses.
- 7:23And if you're experiencing like a downside or a limitation of your tendency, rather than trying to change your inner nature, which is very hard, if even possible, it's like fix the problem.
- 7:34So if you're an obliger, like obligers will sometimes say, well, I want to be an upholder because I want to exercise regularly.
- 7:39I'm like, well, you don't have to be an upholder to do that.
- 7:41You just have to have outer accountability to do that.
- 7:44So you understand the levers that you pull in your particular circumstance.
- 7:48Right.
- 7:48You just have to like use what you know about your tendency to get to achieve your aim for yourself.
- 7:55Um, because that's much more straightforward.
- 7:58I'm like, that's the easy solution, which is just like, get what you want.
- 8:02Don't try to change your whole personality because that's like, is that even possible?
- 8:08And like, that's not even what you want.
- 8:11You want to achieve certain, a certain aim for yourself.
- 8:13And you think, well, if I were a different tendency, it would be easier.
- 8:16Well, you just, just fix it for your tendency because all these tendencies have strengths and weaknesses.
- 8:21Why?
- 8:22How?
- 8:23How does expectation play such a big role in how we go through life?
- 8:29Just part of life.
- 8:30I mean, that's part of if you're at work, you're surrounded by expectations.
- 8:34And it just weighs on us.
- 8:35It just weighs on us.
- 8:36It forces our hand.
- 8:38But it's part of life.
- 8:39I mean, a life without expectations would be a life of meaninglessness because it would mean nobody's counting on you for anything.
- 8:47I can't even imagine what that would be.
- 8:49I mean, even...
- 8:50It's such an interesting, it's such a novel concept coming into it fresh and not living in it.
- 8:54Like, it makes so much sense when you say it, but then you don't...
- 8:58I think it's almost a little jarring to understand how much expectation, both internal and external, plays on how you navigate through life.
- 9:06Like, it's not a comfortable thought because you never think...
- 9:10I've never thought about that.
- 9:11I know expectation exists, but I've never thought about how much it impacts every little thing that I do.
- 9:16Yes.
- 9:17No, it does.
- 9:18That's true.
- 9:20Well, let's see, this goes to my point.
- 9:21Like I'm an upholder.
- 9:23So I'm part of an upholder is the second smallest.
- 9:26So Rebel is the smallest and upholder is only slightly bigger.
- 9:30We're like the fringe personality types.
- 9:32And like, as I was saying, when I was studying habits, I realized I'm not typical.
- 9:36Because I realize that when you say that about expectations, as an upholder, we're very comfortable with expectations.
- 9:42We kind of thrive on expectations.
- 9:44So for me, that's a very kind of almost reassuring way of thinking about things.
- 9:50But see, you're saying, whoa, back up.
- 9:52So this is interesting, right?
- 9:54Because it's showing that we have different perspectives.
- 9:57This is one of the I remember I was talking to somebody I hadn't come up with my framework yet.
- 10:01So I didn't know that this person was a rebel.
- 10:03But as it turns out, she's like one of my OG rebels.
- 10:05This is a super important conversation that I had with her that showed me how differently an upholder and a rebel think.
- 10:12Because when I told her I was writing a book about habits, which to me was like a super exciting and energizing topic.
- 10:18She literally took a step back for me.
- 10:20Because the idea was so loathsome to her.
- 10:22And she's like, why in the world would you volunteer to write a book about a subject that's just so awful?
- 10:29I was like, whoa, that's interesting.
- 10:33I love the idea of habits.
- 10:34To me, a life full of habits is a life of freedom and possibility.
- 10:39But you don't feel that way.
- 10:42That's interesting.
- 10:43So that was a really important conversation because I was like, whoa, there's a totally different perspective here that I hadn't realized.
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