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- 0:00On August 26th, 2026, instruments in the Himalayas detected what looked like an earthquake,
- 0:15but it wasn't.
- 0:17A massive section of rock and glacier ice had broken loose and plunged more than two
- 0:23kilometers into the valley below.
- 0:26The resulting collapse caused rock, ice and water to surge downhill.
- 0:33River channels were blocked and flooding spread far downstream.
- 0:38Mountains may look solid and permanent, but they're filled with cracks, pulled constantly
- 0:44by gravity and in high elevations, sometimes held together in part by frozen ground
- 0:50and ice.
- 0:52So what happens as that ice begins to thaw and glaciers retreat?
- 0:57And how much can we actually say about the role climate change played and what happened?
- 1:04Welcome back to the podcast, I'm Dr. Mac, and this is the Climate Translation.
- 1:11When we look at a mountain, it is easy to imagine one enormous mass of solid rock.
- 1:22But that's not really what a mountain is.
- 1:25Rocks are filled with cracks, some are tiny, others extend for meters or even hundreds
- 1:31of meters through a mountainside.
- 1:34Geologists call some of these fractures joints, others may be associated with faults or with
- 1:40the boundaries between different layers of rock.
- 1:44And those weaknesses matter because gravity is always pulling the mountain downhill.
- 1:51Most of the time nothing dramatic happens.
- 1:54The rock is strong enough, the slope is stable enough, and the forces holding everything
- 1:59in place are greater than the forces trying to move it.
- 2:04But that balance can change.
- 2:07Water can seep into the cracks.
- 2:10Rock can expand and contract as temperatures change, ice can form and melt, and pieces
- 2:17of the mountain can slowly weather and weaken.
- 2:21And in very high mountains, there's another part of that structure.
- 2:26Some of the ground is permanently frozen, we call that permafrost.
- 2:32Permafrost doesn't mean the surface is covered with snow or ice all year, it simply means
- 2:36that the ground remains at or below freezing for at least two consecutive years.
- 2:43And in mountainous regions, that ground may actually be fractured bread rock.
- 2:49Water can enter those cracks in the rock and freeze.
- 2:53The ice can be part of the structure inside the mountain.
- 2:58I've seen some places where they call this frozen glue.
- 3:02It's not literally what the ice is doing, but it's a useful way to picture it.
- 3:07Imagine a badly cracked concrete wall.
- 3:10Now imagine some of those cracks filled with material that helps keep the pieces in place.
- 3:17Changing or removing it can change how stable the wall is.
- 3:22Glaciers can also affect mountain slopes.
- 3:25A large glacier flowing through a valley presses against the rock around it.
- 3:31And some locations that ice can provide additional support to the slopes beside it.
- 3:37Geologists call this buttressing.
- 3:40Think of a book end holding up a row of books upright.
- 3:44If you remove it, the balance changes.
- 3:48Mountains stability depends on the type of rock, the steepness of the slope, the direction
- 3:53of the fractures, the groundwater, the temperature, the erosion, and many other factors.
- 4:01But the important idea is this.
- 4:03A mountain is not a single solid object.
- 4:07It's a complex feature that's developed over millions of years and is constantly responding
- 4:13to gravity, water, ice, and temperature.
- 4:18Usually those forces remain in balance, but in high mountain environments, some of that
- 4:23balance depends on frozen water.
- 4:27So what happens when the frozen parts begin to warm?
- 4:32Glaciers are always moving, but when a glacier loses more ice than it gains, it becomes thinner
- 4:38and begins retreating uphill.
- 4:41It's important because as we discussed, a glacier can sometimes provide support to the
- 4:47rock beside it.
- 4:49As the ice thins and pulls away, that support weakens.
- 4:55Imagine removing that book end we talked about.
- 4:58The books may not automatically fall over, but the forces acting on them have changed.
- 5:04Something similar can happen along a steep mountain slope.
- 5:08Then there's the frozen ground inside the mountain.
- 5:11At very high elevations, water inside cracks in the rock can remain frozen for years.
- 5:18But as temperatures rise, some of that ice begins thawing during the warmer months.
- 5:25Now those cracks contain a mixture of frozen ground, liquid water, and open space.
- 5:32The structure has become more complicated and potentially less stable.
- 5:37Water can move deeper into fractures.
- 5:40It can reduce the friction between pieces of rock.
- 5:44And in some situations, water pressure inside those cracks can help push blocks of rock
- 5:50apart.
- 5:51Together, these changes can change the balance that has kept a slope in place.
- 5:57And scientists have been measuring exactly these types of changes in central Nepal.
- 6:04A study published in 2026 examined temperature and glacier changes across the Langtang catchment,
- 6:11a high altitude river basin in the central Himalayas, around the mountain named Langtang Lirung.
- 6:20Researchers found that the glacier covered parts of the region warmed by about three
- 6:25temps of a degree Celsius per decade between 1960 and 2023.
- 6:32It doesn't sound like much, but over several decades, it adds up.
- 6:38The researchers also found that glacier loss accelerated substantially after the year
- 6:452000.
- 6:46Across the region, glaciers are thinning, breaking into smaller pieces and retreating uphill.
- 6:53This glacier had retreated roughly 400 meters between 1990 and 2020.
- 7:01Scientists measuring permafrost in the region also found the frozen ground at elevations near
- 7:07the collapse side had been actively thawing for years.
- 7:12By 2026, Langtang Lirung was no longer the mountain it had been decades earlier.
- 7:19The glaciers were retreating, the permafrost was degrading, the meltwater was finding its
- 7:24way deep into the rock.
- 7:28The melt stability was ultimately governed by what the bedrock was made of, the joint
- 7:33orientation and the steepness.
- 7:36A compromised rock phase can hold for years before reaching failure, but climate change
- 7:41reduced the stability further.
- 7:44High temperatures melted the ice wedged in the fractures, degraded the frozen ground,
- 7:50acting as subterranean glue and let high pressure meltwater lubricate the fault lines.
- 7:58And on August 26th of this year, it collapsed.
- 8:03When part of the Langtang Lirung failed on August 26th, the first event was what scientists
- 8:09call a rock ice avalanche.
- 8:12A huge mass of bedrock broke loose from the glaciated side of the mountain at an elevation
- 8:19of around 5,200 meters or 17,000 feet.
- 8:24The glaciers sitting above that rock came with it, and gravity took over.
- 8:30The mixture of rock and ice dropped thousands of feet into the valley below.
- 8:35But what happened next is what made this event so destructive.
- 8:40The avalanche didn't simply reach the bottom of a mountain and stop.
- 8:44As all of that material moved downhill, it broke apart.
- 8:49Ice melted, rock shattered, soil and sediment were picked up along the way.
- 8:55Water became mixed with the moving debris.
- 8:59And the avalanche began transforming into something more like a debris flow, a thick mixture
- 9:05of water, mud, rock, ice, and debris.
- 9:09And because it's moving downhill under gravity, it carries enormous amounts of mass, material,
- 9:17with it.
- 9:19Researchers constructing the event estimate that the debris flow traveled around 22 kilometers
- 9:24or 14 miles in only six or seven minutes.
- 9:30That means parts of it were moving tremendously fast.
- 9:34The flow tore through the river valley, and destroyed the Gyirong border port along
- 9:39the Nepal-China border.
- 9:42But once again, the disaster didn't stop there.
- 9:45All of that debris then entered the river system.
- 9:48In some places, rock and sediment temporarily blocked the river.
- 9:53Water began collecting behind those blockages.
- 9:56And when the water found its way through or around the debris, another hazard developed.
- 10:02A flood.
- 10:04That flood began moving downstream.
- 10:07Researchers estimate the surging water eventually traveled 170 kilometers or more than 100 miles
- 10:14through the connected river system.
- 10:17At one measuring point farther downstream, the river rose by 9 meters, close to 30 feet.
- 10:24All of this happened because the hazards were connected.
- 10:28Scientists call this a cascade.
- 10:31The easiest way to picture it may be a row of dominoes.
- 10:34The first domino is important because it starts the process.
- 10:38But the damage farther down the line depends on what each falling domino hits next.
- 10:45A mountain collapse can hit a glacier.
- 10:48Rock and ice can enter a river.
- 10:50Debris can block the river.
- 10:52Water builds up.
- 10:53And then the flood can travel into communities that may be dozens or even hundreds of miles
- 10:58away from the original collapse.
- 11:02This is one reason mountain disasters are so difficult to prepare for.
- 11:07The people affected downstream may never even see the mountain that failed.
- 11:12They may not feel an earthquake.
- 11:14They may not even know something has happened upstream.
- 11:18They simply see a river beginning to rise.
- 11:21And in Nepal, the entire chain from the solid rock highland mountain to the flood water
- 11:27far downstream unfolded in a matter of hours.
- 11:32So did climate change cause the collapse of the Langtang Lirung?
- 11:38Right now, the most scientifically accurate answer is, we don't know.
- 11:44Scientists have become quite good at determining how climate change affects some extreme events.
- 11:51For a heat wave, for example, researchers can compare today's warmer climate with a
- 11:56world without human-caused warming and estimate how much more likely or more intense that
- 12:03heat wave became.
- 12:05A collapsing mountain side is much harder.
- 12:09There are simply way too many individual pieces involved.
- 12:13The type of rock matters, the location and direction of the fractures matter, the steepness
- 12:19of the slope matters, the water inside the mountain, the amount of ice, and sometimes
- 12:24the final trigger may be impossible to identify.
- 12:28We have a good example from the same mountain.
- 12:31In April of 2015, a magnitude 7.8 earthquake struck Nepal.
- 12:37The shaking triggered an enormous avalanche of rock and snow and ice from the Langtang
- 12:43Lirung that buried much of the Langtang village and killed hundreds of people.
- 12:49In that case, we know what pulled the trigger.
- 12:52The earthquake shook an already steep mountain until material broke loose.
- 12:58But the August 2026 collapse was different.
- 13:01There was no large earthquake first.
- 13:03In fact, the falling mountain produced such a powerful seismic signal, it was initially
- 13:09mistaken for an earthquake.
- 13:13Something on the slope itself reached a breaking point.
- 13:17Exactly why it failed, at that particular moment, may take scientists months or even
- 13:22years to understand.
- 13:24But we do know something about the environment in which it happened.
- 13:28The region has been warming for decades.
- 13:31Glaciers had been shrinking.
- 13:33Permafrost has been thawing, and the glaciers at the collapse site had retreated hundreds
- 13:39of meters.
- 13:41Researchers also found in the days immediately before the disaster that it included some
- 13:46of the warmest August conditions recorded in the area.
- 13:51But none of those facts prove that climate change caused this particular collapse.
- 13:57But they do tell us that the background conditions of the mountain are changing.
- 14:02Think about a wooden deck slowly deteriorating outdoors.
- 14:06Rain gets into it, boards expand and contract, the wood begins to rot.
- 14:11Eventually someone steps on a particular board and it breaks.
- 14:16You might be able to identify the final step, but understanding exactly why the board
- 14:21failed also means understanding every variable, everything that weakened it beforehand.
- 14:28That is closer to the question scientists are asking in the Himalayas.
- 14:32Climate change did not create the steep slopes.
- 14:35It didn't create the fractured rock, and the mountains were collapsing long before humans
- 14:40warmed the atmosphere.
- 14:42But our warming is changing glaciers, it is changing the frozen ground, and the movement
- 14:49of water through the mountains.
- 14:51Those changes can influence how stable the slopes are.
- 14:56So the scientifically responsible conclusion is not that climate change knocked down the
- 15:02Langtang Lirung.
- 15:04It's that climate change is altering the mountain environment in ways known to affect
- 15:09slope stability.
- 15:12And that fact matters far beyond this one disaster.
- 15:16Nearly two billion people depend on some way on water originating in this area of the Himalayas.
- 15:25Communities, roads, bridges, hydropower facilities, and entire river valleys sit downstream
- 15:33from the rapidly changing mountain terrain.
- 15:36We may never be able to predict the exact moment when a particular slope will fail,
- 15:41but satellites can watch slopes move, sensors can measure thawing permafrost, seismometers
- 15:48can detect collapses, and river gauges can provide warnings as flood waves move downstream.
- 15:54It comes down to this, and a warming world, understanding when a mountain might let go,
- 16:00is only one part of the challenge.
- 16:03We also have to understand what's coming next.
- 16:13To us, mountains look permanent.
- 16:16We spend a lifetime in their shadow, and they seem fixed and carved in places forever.
- 16:21But they're never truly still.
- 16:23Rock fractures, ice shifts, and melt water constantly finds its way into cracks.
- 16:30That change doesn't invent these forces, but it does change the rules they play by.
- 16:36For decades, those shifts can be small, almost invisible, and then in a matter of seconds,
- 16:42an entire mountain can give way.
- 16:44What happened in Nepal shows us that a warming world isn't just about rising thermometers,
- 16:50and stronger storms, or retreating glaciers.
- 16:53Sometimes the real disruption is happening deep inside the bedrock itself.
- 17:00I'm Dr. Mac, and this has been the Climate Translation.
- 17:04If you have a question about the climate you've been too afraid to ask, or if you have
- 17:08a differing opinion, I want to hear from you.
- 17:11I can use your viewpoints in future episodes.
- 17:14You can reach me at theclimatetranslation at gmail.com.
- 17:19I'll see you next time.