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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles REPLAY 090126 - Paul’s Hellstorm Audiobook and the History They Buried · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Unknown: There we kick off our two hours together today with Alvin Lee's
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  famous lyrics. Now, very prophetic, of course, love to change the world's world's changing. We just try and ride along with it and make the best decisions we can
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  and those are the kind of things that we try and cover here. Hey, look at that.
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  Right on time. Try and cover those kind of things that are important and stuff where we can make decent decisions in our lives that help us in the future as opposed to the herd that generally makes terrible decisions because they bad input, garbage in,
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  garbage out.
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  So, Roger Sales here with you, 03/13/2019.
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  03/1319.
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  Paul is what it is. So, that's I'm not sure if that's got any kind of significance. We'll see as the day develops. It's a Wednesday.
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  Of course, that means Paul and he just joined us here and so, I guess we'll kick it off. How are you doing over there? Been following a little bit of the Brexit chaos here.
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  Understand that you guys may be eating chlorinated chicken.
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  Unknown: Are we?
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  Maybe. I've just got a cup of tea, but I'm on for a bit I'm on for a bit of chlorinated chicken. If it's tasty, I don't mind. I'll give it a go.
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  Oh, no. I've been watching I don't I'm not even following Brexit.
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  I'm not following it,
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  Roger. I'm How how can you? I mean, I went to the chippy. I went to the well, it's just there's nothing to follow. It's just sort of like, woah. Look at that. I mean, it's like a permanent ongoing silliness.
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  It's embarrassing, really. I mean, it's it's lots of things. I was in the chip shop the other night, as you do, buying chips.
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  We do things like that here in England. So
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  at the end of the of the day, I'm not inclined to cook too much. This happens once or twice a week. Not all the time, but once or twice a week. Thought, I'll just go up to the chipping and buy some chips, you see. And I'm in there. Of course, the the chip shops owned by these Portuguese people who are great. They're really nice.
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  And
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  they
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  the guy there that owns the shop says,
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  what's gonna happen then? I said, well I'm gonna order some chips. He said, no no, not that. He said, you know, what's going on with Europe?
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  I said, I've no idea, you tell me.
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  And we just got into the whole discussion about it and I said, oh well, it's just a matter of maybe we're only a hair's breadth away you know from
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  massive
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  civil war type scenarios and ructions.
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  So he said should I go back and live on my island just off the coast of Portugal? I said can you do that? Good idea. Could I get in?
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  I said, could I come? He said, no. You are an English type. I I said, so you're gonna keep me out? He said, of course. I said, good. I like you already. That's the way to be. Keep us out. I said
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  I bet. Did that throw him a curveball? Good. Did that response throw him a curveball? No. It was not that these are just normal work you know, they're a good working family. You know? They've been here for years now. You know? They
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  they ask me every now and again. Not that I try to have political discussions in a chip shop. It's not too it tends to not really work.
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  But they were it wasn't busy. I was the only customer there because it was little bit later at night. So we just end up having this little five or ten minute chat. It was great, really. And
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  I said, you know, things are things are far far worse or more interesting than what being made out. And in fact, earlier that day, this was yesterday, of course, wasn't it? Earlier yesterday, I'd just been tooling around on the Internet as one does.
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  And
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  sorry. I've got something that's gonna make me cough in a second if I don't watch it. There you go. Go away. Thank you.
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  And came across some video footage of recent yellow vest demonstrations.
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  Yes. I just don't have enough time with all the different things, but this was at the weekend just gone.
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  And we're getting absolutely no reports here. None. You wouldn't think anything's going on. From what I understand,
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  not just reading between the lines, but certainly from some video footage
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  delivered by, like, French lawyers who are involved in this as well, not on the bad side, but on the side of the people. This thing is getting bigger and bigger. It's not going away. It's getting bigger and bigger and bigger. It's in multiple city. Do you know what Huge numbers. You know what they did Numbers of You know what they did this weekend?
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  Unknown: They they may have crossed the line. They sacked
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  a Freemason Temple.
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  Oh, no. Well, I see it's all over then. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The checker Oh, they book. Are gonna go nuts, aren't they? Well, however, they and it was interesting because they actually showed the inside of it in the in the pictures I saw and a little video. Yep.
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  And you're right. It was the checkerboard in the middle of the room, in the middle of the thing was the checkerboard
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  and then they had all the symbols everywhere
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  but they strewed around a bunch of chairs and all that stuff but they didn't damage any of the paintings. They took four ceremonial
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  swords
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  and then later returned them. They showed them out showing them off in the demonstration and stuff but yes, it's getting pretty keen over there. That's a good word over you guys use. It's very keen over there, isn't it, sir?
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  Unknown: It is. They're getting quite keen.
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  Yeah. They are, and the
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  numbers are big. Also, we've got that
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  ancient scenario where governments
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  let the demons out of the jails and stick them in police uniforms. I've read a few reports that that's what's going on. So
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  certain sort of, you know,
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  insensitive types that are probably held within the French penal system have been stuck in Koppers uniforms.
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  I expect they'll be doing more and more of this, and then more heavily armed with each passing week.
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  So
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  it's fascinating to show in the sense that
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  the people that are in charge always just
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  they just always do the same stuff.
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  And and when they start doing this stuff,
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  basically, you have a situation whereby they kind of show their hand and they're not as powerful as they think they are, and they're just kind of auto reacting all the time. So unfortunately, it's going that way,
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  and we need to know a little bit more about it really. I do. Well, I'll tell you, Greg tells me my voice is a little low,
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  Unknown: so I'm trying to get that stuff adjusted here. I'll even adjust you up a little bit, Paul. You do sound mighty bright and crisp today. I know. We found our little Skype button. I know I sent you that message, and it works and we're going to have some people call in here. I'm sure before we're finished and up there where the call in bar is and it's got the red and the green answer and hang up. Now, in the left is that merge. I did it three or four times, five times yesterday, worked every time. So, the problem may be solved. Cross your fingers.
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  I I don't want to forget chlorinated chicken.
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  But and I saw that. No. I can't forget it already. No. I know. It it it's just makes your mouth water, doesn't it? And this is a backlash of Brexit and the way I saw this and became aware of it was I clicked on a recent Max Kaiser
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  episode and the whole first part of the show was on this and it was very what it was. Some of the things that came out in it and
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  the analogy that they use. So, let me go through that litany right there. First of all, what's happened is because of Brexit, you may have to start buying your chickens from The US and because the EU has such strict food standards,
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  we can't import chickens over there because we mass produce em. In a cage where in England, they'd have five. In The US, they got 50, okay? Now, see I get to use my merge button right here, man.
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  Okay, in the in The US, they got 50 and because they're all, there's Robert with us. So, because they're all in there and they're subject to disease and stuff and so they give em all this stuff including arsenic in in their in their food in a small minute amount
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  to keep the body lice and stuff away that sucks off the nutrition of the meat, you know, or the succulents of the meat or whatever. Anyway, that's why if you're eating chicken and you get in and you get down to the bone and it's real black around the bone,
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  that's that arsenic.
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  Okay? So anyway,
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  I know it's sickening, isn't it? So anyway
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  Unknown: Is that is that the really tasty bit at the bottom, the eye? It must be the real yummy stuff. So,
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  Unknown: what has happened is they have to chlorine wash the birds to keep all the diseases and stuff because they're packed so much together but here's the interesting thing, she had a little comparison on there. In 1957,
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  the average chicken weighed under a kilo,
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  just under a kilo, point nine kilo, almost two pounds. Okay? So what do you think the average chicken weighs today?
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  A lot more than that. Well, okay. Well, I'll buy that. You gotta want you on a venture guess.
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  Unknown: Three kilos. Over
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  Unknown: four kilos.
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  So the average chicken ain't natural. No kidding. Okay? And so what she did at that point was take that scenario
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  and transfer it over to the economy.
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  And back in 1957
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  when we had an honest monetary system and today it's four more than four times fatter.
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  So it's a very interesting Now those Pilgrim priests?
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  Are are what, Robert?
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  Are those Pilgrim Pride chickens or just chickens in general? She didn't go into the brand, but she did mention Purdue.
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  Okay. Purdue, I guess, largest chicken manufacturer but anyway, Britain may have to, if they get out of Brexit and they may may have chlorinated chicken over there with your fish and chips. You can alternate chips one night and chlorinated
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  chips the next day, Paul.
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  We eat it all the time, man. Can't you can't you see the reason that our country's so screwed up? It's because a lot of this stuff. Now, you mentioned something else earlier that I want to bring a parallel to. Both of our countries are very close to civil war.
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  And I mentioned last week just a flash I had during the conversation of a movie that I saw when I was a puppy, okay? And many of you probably never seen it but I'm sure a lot of you remember it and I mentioned it and there was just a still last week. So, I want to explore that because I've thought about it a couple of times. Did you ever see the movie Clockwork Orange?
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  Anybody?
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  Unknown: I'm sorry. What was the question, Roger? I'm sorry. Have you You're chopping up a bit, Roger. Roger. Are you I I have, you know, it's No. You are. I'll you tell you what I'd suggest. Maybe
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  maybe restart VoiceMeeter. There's something choppy with your audio. It's sort of here at my end anyway. Four
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  Unknown: or five seconds. There's a little gap. Is that Making a bit difficult. Yeah. I'm getting Is is that better? Yeah. Maybe restart that audio engine. I did. I did. It may be the best we can do, and I'm wired now.
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  So
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  is it still choppy?
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  It is
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  Unknown: it still real choppy? There's something yeah. There's some there's some it's a bit choppy. Yeah. Yeah. It is actually.
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  Unknown: What a pity. Well You guys have moved. Did you say clockwork orange? Yes. Clockwork
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  orange.
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  Unknown: Yeah. They're
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  yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Unknown: I've never watched it all the way through. Can you imagine that? Greg
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  Unknown: gives us some feedback. There's no chopping no chopping coming off the server, so it's internal, okay,
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  with Skype, evidently.
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  Unknown: Do you watch part of it and you never finish I'll tell you what then, Roger. Roger, could you Roger, could you call me and pull me in? I'm gonna because it's almost it's very, very distracting. I can barely I'm only getting sort of every two out of every three words. It's really difficult. Let me end the call and you could you pull me back in again? Would that be okay? Let's see if that works. I'll I will do that.
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  Unknown: So go ahead and Paul's gonna hang up and
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  I'll reconnect him and we'll see if some of that works. It's always gotta be some kind of technical stuff going on, Robert. It just, it just ain't easy, man.
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  It just ain't easy, brother.
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  Hold on. We'll see if we can bring Paul back in, see if this maybe
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  improves stuff. It it's like life doesn't have enough challenges,
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  you know, to try and pull off what we're doing
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  and at at the way we're doing it and then all of these stuff moves and technological
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  and companies changing software and
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  WiFi that doesn't work or Internet that's poor. Oh well, Paul, such is the toil to toil day to day in our lives.
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  Unknown: Any better? Yeah. You're a bit you're a lot louder, but we're still there. But look, carry on. Let let's maybe it'll settle down for some reason. Well, you're do a of in
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  Unknown: talking a minute. I'll just turn it over to you in that respect. Those are a few things that were on my mind. But
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  you had an announcement today, so why don't you we discussed it yesterday a bit, why don't I let you launch into that and maybe this stuff will straighten out in the interim.
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  Unknown: Okay.
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  Yeah well
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  what's been happening recently
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  in between last Wednesday and now
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  on
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  a good connection of mine is an author probably well known I guess to many of
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  the listeners here, Thomas Goodrich,
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  who's the author of several books, but
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  most
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  notably
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  sorry. I just got a big ding there.
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  But most notably, the
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  everything okay?
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  That's right. Sorry. The line's just gone really, really poor here at this end for some reason.
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  Yeah. He's the author of Hellstorm.
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  And I bumped into Tom a couple of years ago online. I can't remember quite how it happened, but it's probably through a
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  mutual connection kindly brokered by Andrew Carrington Hitchcock.
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  Unknown: I don't know. We
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  Unknown: sorry?
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  Unknown: Paul, can you hear me? Yes. Yes, I can.
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  Okay.
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  Just
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  Roger, I just wanted to check-in and say you're you're nice and smooth on TuneIn,
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  Unknown: but I actually only hear Paul talking unless someone else says something. Yeah. Everybody's telling me and I'm getting it from three or four sources that the audience isn't picking up any of the
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  problems we're hearing. So, just go ahead, Paul because you were getting into something that's pretty important
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  and you know, I want y'all to listen up close. Go ahead, Paul. Because you this is a nice project, and I think you all are gonna be real happy about this. Go on, Paul.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Sure. So
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  so Thomas, I've got to know over the last or Tom
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  or Mike, in fact, because he's actually he's really Michael. So I tease him a lot about this because I actually therefore have now started to refer him to him simply as mister Goodrich, and I hope he's listening right now, mister Goodrich. So
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  sorry. Well,
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  Unknown: are we okay here? Are we breaking up? You're fine. You're fine. No. You're good. You're fine. I'm gonna I'm gonna cut Terrence off because I think Terrence, you're listening on tuning in. Did you have anything else to add? Or I'm gonna bump you off. Okay? So we don't get any of this bleed over stuff.
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  Unknown: Oh, okay, Roger.
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  Okay. I just wanted to say that, you're choppy on the phone, but you're smooth on.
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  Unknown: Okay. Well, we're, you know, listen. For everybody, we're doing the best we can. I'm gonna thank you, Terrence, for the feedback. I'm gonna again, for the third time, Paul, turn it over to you. Maybe you can get through it this time. Okay.
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  Unknown: Well, of course, it picks up his pipe, puts tobacco in it, lights it, sits back, and thinks. Now
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  so, yeah,
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  got to know Tom quite well over the last year and a half. Mister Goodrich
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  keeps it easier, doesn't it? And
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  back in the
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  probably September
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  of last year,
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  I'd done a a little radio thing with him back in the February of last year two thousand and eighteen regarding Dresden,
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  but we didn't broadcast it at the time for all sorts of sensible reasons. It's not a bad interview or anything. There's no it's not that it's full of foul language or anything like that. There were other reasons actually why we didn't put it out at the time,
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  but I contacted him because I'd purchased
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  the book he's most noted for
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  is a book called Hellstorm,
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  the death of Nazi Germany 1944
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  to 1947.
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  And I think the book came out about 2010
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  in hardback anyway. I got a copy in 2014
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  from him.
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  I exchanged some emails with him, and he shipped me a copy, and I read it that year, and it had a huge impact on me. And in fact, I think just about everybody that's read that book
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  would say something similar.
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  It has a huge impact because there's something
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  intensely personal about the experience that you're thrown into as you go through the book. It's
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  and I said this to him the other day. I I'm paying him a very high compliment. It's as if he didn't write it. It's as if a writer is not really present in this. The communication's that clear, that clean,
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  and that direct. It goes straight in. And and primarily, this is because
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  those that have read the book will know that the bulk of it,
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  rightfully as well, is the firsthand
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  anecdotes, testimonials of people that were actually there.
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  So it has it has a tremendous intensity. It's a very human story, and it's unfortunately about the destruction of a great deal of humanity at that time or Germans in particular. Although, of course, lots of people were were affected by that. That's obvious.
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  But it's from their perspective. So it gives them a voice to say things that realistically they've never really been able to say before or that's certainly not been published in this way before prior to this book.
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  So
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  come the autumn just gone,
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  for some reason I I was in touch with him and I actually called him
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  one lunchtime here. It was early morning. I think he was in Europe still at the time. He'd been over in Europe last year.
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  And I said, hey. I've just been thinking, you know, that this should be turned into an audiobook.
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  I won't mind having a crack at it. And he started chuckling and he said he said, you know, this is so strange. He said, about two hours ago, someone came up to me and said exactly the same thing. He said, and I never even thought about it before.
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  I said, okay.
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  He said, well he said if you want to have a go, do some, you know, so I
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  recorded
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  I think the prologue,
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  I've recorded it more than once since then, that was the sort of the beginning of it, and I sent that to him and
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  he quite liked it, and
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  so I said okay I'll do the whole book, so I did and
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  I've been recording that over the winter, I didn't do much work on it in January for all sorts of reasons, had other things I actually had to deal with, but
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  we finished the book, got the book finished about ten days or so ago,
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  and it runs to
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  the full narrations just over fourteen hours, so it's quite a lug, it's quite an earful, but it is a 400 page book and
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  it's quite an intense book for those people as I said that have read it,
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  and reading it's quite an intense experience particularly doing it out loud, but it
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  was great, I'm glad I did it very much so. So
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  the recent sort of unfolding is now that it's ready, we're just about in a position to make it available for purchase. What we've done
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  is we've set up a website or a web page really called
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  hailstormaudiobook.com,
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  hailstormaudiobook.com
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  that's me wearing my shameless self promotion hat,
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  but if you go over there you can
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  there's a little form, very, very simple. It's not really a website, it's just a web page at the moment, and if you stick your name and your email address, and you'll be sent a link where you can download the prologue, which is about twenty three minutes long for free. We're giving that away as a as a freebie to
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  obviously
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  seek to wet everybody's appetite.
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  And the book itself should be out
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  possibly by the end of this week, but certainly I would imagine by the early part of next week, because there's just a few technical decisions we've got to make which are far too boring
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  for me to go into right now, but there are things that we just want to get right. We've got things like barcodes and another few sort of publishing technical things to just put in place, and once they're there away we go, but the freebies there for everybody to go and download,
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  and I would invite you all to go and do it, and then you can bend my ear about it in a few weeks time and tell me what you think or not as the case may be, but I'm sure you do a marvelous job then.
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  Unknown: I'm sorry. I I was I was gonna say and I'll turn it over to you, Robert.
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  Sorry for the dogs.
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  I'm I know Paul did a glorious job on it and I want you to repeat that website again, please.
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  Slowly.
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  Unknown: Yeah. It's okay. It's hellstormaudiobook.com.
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  Hellstormaudiobook.com.
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  And it's just a web page, but it it will develop, and in fact, it's
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  it sparked me up with all sorts of other additional ideas in the whole realm of publishing and what we have to do to get our message across. So it's been great. And in fact, as a sort of
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  something that occurred just a couple of weeks ago is that I got a phone call one afternoon
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  from Brent
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  for no particular reason whatsoever. I if I recall, I think he'd inadvertently
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  sat on his keyboard or something and ended up calling me.
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  And I said, oh, hi. You know, I'm always happy to talk to him because you know what he's like. He's a great guy, and we got talking. And for some reason, the conversation got round to audiobooks. I don't think I started it. I think Brent was talking about it, and he
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  was
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  telling me that, you know, you've got all your truckers in The States and that the audiobook thing is really booming, and I would imagine for guys effectively locked in a cab, you know, for six, seven, eight hours at a stretch tooling around The States, listening to things is gonna be,
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  you'd think a godsend at times to stop you going, you know,
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  crazy with stuff. So
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  that was a very interesting conversation I had with him, and it I've just been thinking about it ever since because
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  I think books
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  it's not so much that people don't read. Maybe they don't read books as much as they used to. People are certainly doing a lot of reading,
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  but in short of birth, and it's often the case you just can't find the time to read a book.
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  So
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  maybe this is a way through you know, and there's
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  something
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  anyway I just love I've loved doing it even though the book is awful.
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  I mean, I don't mean that it's badly written book, mean the book is about
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  about hell
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  and it needs to be heard, but white Christian European people need to hear this, they need to hear it because
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  Unknown: it's a massive alarm bell, It's an enormous alarm bell, and it needs to be rung. Dear, I draw the parallel of Europa, I understand why you didn't wanna get any deeper into it. I mean,
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  you've almost gotta be a masochist
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  to to be absorbing this stuff all the time. But but to be really, really aware of your enemy and and who they really are, you gotta have some kind of a level of dosage of it.
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  Unknown: Yep. You do, I think. You do. You need to know. It's what happens when good people are put into terrible circumstances,
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  this is what happens.
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  It's not so much, it's almost like an incremental to me anyway, this is my take on it, there's an incremental sort of worsening of circumstances and suddenly people's behavior falls off a cliff
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  and then
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  you've opened the portals of hell and we all need to be aware of it because it's
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  light and almost as it were in everybody. I'm not saying we're all evil, I'm simply saying they do these things in military schools and I've often discussed it about
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  say you were at the Titanic and you're in a boat and your boat's full and 20 yards away there are people drowning in the water, if you go and pick those people up the whole of your boat's going go under, so what do you do?
• 25:57
  These are terrible
• 25:59
  dilemmas, you don't want this, but I know that they put questions like this to military cadets and officers what are you gonna do? Because you're gonna be under circumstances at times probably
• 26:09
  where you're going to have to make extremely callous decisions like that about who's going to live and who's going to die,
• 26:15
  and I suppose part and parcel of what we're doing here in communicating,
• 26:19
  not just here but wherever anybody's engaging with trying to uncover the truth,
• 26:24
  is to make sure that those circumstances don't come about.
• 26:27
  You don't want them, people
• 26:29
  are going to behave terribly and I don't want to be around that and nobody would want to be around that. So you know this is part and parcel of being responsible really
• 26:38
  looking at it and saying look you need to know this is what happened,
• 26:42
  because our people become unhinged.
• 26:44
  Unknown: Let's avoid this at all costs. Yes
• 26:48
  Unknown: absolutely,
• 26:50
  yeah
• 26:51
  I would prefer to have volume. Go
• 26:54
  Unknown: ahead, Robert.
• 26:56
  Unknown: I was going to say I knew exactly what you were about to say because I just happened to listen to Giannis and Goal last Saturday, and I heard
• 27:04
  an Englishman from England call in named Paul English and I said, I know that voice. Wait a minute. That's the dude that calls in every Wednesday. So III heard you say what you just said Saturday. So I knew you were you were going to say that. Right.
• 27:17
  Of secrecy. So,
• 27:19
  that's cool, man. I gotta listen to that. That's cool II. Think I watched the video on it and it was just it was it was like the rope up
• 27:28
  last combat
• 27:30
  square.
• 27:31
  It is horrible.
• 27:33
  Like you say, horrible book, not horribly written, just the content
• 27:37
  and the subject. Yeah.
• 27:39
  It's just, it's it's graphic. It's all get out more than I care to read, but
• 27:44
  it is a truth that needs to be spoken. It needs to be said, you
• 27:48
  know, it puts America in a bad light and it's it's it's shackled. So
• 27:53
  Unknown: Well, I mean Well, it's it's for all of us, you know? It's it's it's not it's just not good.
• 27:58
  It's really, really bad, and you begin to see you see that as the major
• 28:03
  it's a major blow from which we've never recovered
• 28:06
  because the I don't not yet. We're only gonna recover it by becoming conscious of it and taking responsibility for it. You can't You can't this is the only way. You can't recover from it if most people don't know what the hell happened or what it was.
• 28:22
  Unknown: How do you recover Yeah. From something that people don't know? If war is the truth. Absolutely.
• 28:27
  I mean, you know, Hitler's painted as this absolute demon. Hell, man. The the guy tried everything in the world to get these people to back down and they weren't having any of it. Yep. They were coming after him, and they were gonna squash this nationalistic
• 28:44
  white nationalistic
• 28:45
  movement come hell or high water.
• 28:49
  Unknown: That's right.
• 28:51
  There's a It's absolutely right. There's a part earlier in the book where Tom was writing about
• 28:56
  Samuel Untermeyer,
• 28:58
  and I think the phrase
• 29:00
  Tom uses something like is that
• 29:03
  the worldwide jury
• 29:05
  understood
• 29:06
  that it was facing a threat
• 29:08
  that was going to undermine and take away all its hard won positions
• 29:13
  within
• 29:14
  European and European based life,
• 29:17
  and it's true. And of course what most people are not aware of is that the Jews declared war on Germany in 1933,
• 29:25
  and
• 29:25
  you know you think why? Why are you doing that? Because
• 29:29
  it's obvious that this pivot point of nationalism
• 29:32
  can only lead to one thing which is that we become healthy again and there is no place for them to basically you know invade the power centers and do certain things, and they're far more aware of that than we are simply because we have been effectively comfortable in our own homes not looking for trouble.
• 29:50
  So it's key and I had a discussion with someone recently you know you hear these phrases all the time and I'll keep hearing them probably for the rest of my life I guess given the amount of brainwashing that's gone on beforehand,
• 30:00
  But people say oh well things didn't turn out too well for the Jews in World War II, I said the Jews? What about the Germans?
• 30:06
  What about the Russians? What about everybody else?
• 30:09
  You know people are so fast to sort of jump on that one all the time. They're pre programmed.
• 30:17
  Unknown: They're That's pre
• 30:20
  Unknown: right,
• 30:21
  that's right, and of course the other thing that's worth that I note all the time in myself really looking at these conversations is that facts and data don't swing it, they don't, They absolutely do not swing it because
• 30:33
  the person on the other side of the conversation doesn't have the context
• 30:36
  that you and I and us here in this call have got. They don't have that context.
• 30:41
  And without it, all of the communication of did you know this and did you know that, they'll just be rebuffed, it's like it just bounces off the wall,
• 30:49
  Unknown: know,
• 30:50
  it just does. Had a personal experience with this yesterday, I want to welcome Bob.
• 30:54
  Bob, can you hold on just a second, let me relate this. One of the guys that is in our expat group down here, his name's AT, he's a nice guy. He just retired
• 31:05
  last week,
• 31:07
  and he used to be in one of the treasury departments. He was a teacher and a student up at
• 31:13
  Glencoe
• 31:14
  which is the big federal training, law enforcement training center in Georgia down there on the coast and I in here, he flew the helicopter because he's flown helicopters all over the continent down here in one capacity or another and
• 31:30
  after he got down here, he got the job of flying the helicopter in our valley here for the fire department. So, anytime you look up and see helicopters, a red and yellow helicopter. It was AT, you know? And so, he's retired and he's got that federal background stuff and we were at lunch yesterday and afterwards eating ice cream which we do.
• 31:50
  Which is something came up about IRS not being part of Treasury. IRS insists Gweli and Co. Came up. We were talking about it, and I just made the comment. I said, Well, IRS is not a U. S. Agency.
• 32:02
  And he
• 32:04
  starts, you know, the argumentative thing. And he opens up the cell phone, and he brings up Department of Treasury. There's the IRS logo over on one side. I said, it doesn't matter what the appearance is. If you go to title,
• 32:16
  whatever treasury is in
• 32:19
  but too bad Chris isn't with us, he'd know but one of the codes in the 50 codes is all treasury
• 32:24
  and
• 32:25
  you go in there in that code and there's a list of all the agencies that are in under the Department of Treasury and IRS isn't mentioned.
• 32:33
  Okay? But so anyway, we talked a little bit, but I hit that yesterday, the very same thing you're talking about. And I'm gonna send him a copy of my book. I told him about Europa,
• 32:43
  and I'm gonna send him a copy a link to that. So we'll see if we make any progress or not, but that's what we do on a day to day basis is try and turn people around. You're right, Paul. Man, you get one of these people that's in that zone, and
• 33:00
  are facts, I guess, can make a difference at some point, but initially, they still go back to the old The box. To the programming. Where the heck is that coming from? Hey, Bob. Sorry to take up the mic. How you doing, brother? Thanks for calling.
• 33:15
  Unknown: Not too bad. I've got a comment. But before,
• 33:19
  when I was listening on the
• 33:22
  before I called in, I just click on your PPN and then touch the listen live. It was working perfectly.
• 33:28
  And now that I'm on the call, I'm getting, you know, like, two or of
• 33:33
  dead time, and then I'll come back. Well, let's maybe Maybe
• 33:37
  Unknown: that pinpoints something. They're just putting our little merge system online here evidently this week, so let's
• 33:44
  give em a little time and maybe they'll straighten it out and that could be, you know, that we can use either one if the other one
• 33:51
  suits us better and it's a little better fidelity
• 33:54
  wise. We may use switch that one and let you all have the option. Go ahead with your comment, Bob, if you would.
• 34:03
  Unknown: Because I heard Paul say something about Dresden,
• 34:07
  and I had read enough books, you know, about World War two, this and that, to know something of Dresden.
• 34:13
  And in fact Can I get to you? Hold on a second. Let me Now now that wasn't Skype, Bob. That's
• 34:22
  Unknown: cold atmosphere. I like that.
• 34:24
  Unknown: No.
• 34:25
  That's a business radio here, and my crew's trying to figure out how to get to
• 34:31
  there's a
• 34:34
  Unknown: Now
• 34:36
  Unknown: Bob's clipping bad. Hold on a second. Let's see if it settles down here. Bob, and start again. No. No. No. I'm not. I I muted so I I I muted so I could yell at my guy. He's lost. Oh, okay.
• 34:48
  Okay. Dresden.
• 34:51
  I've we bought an Atlas,
• 34:53
  fairly modern, I presume,
• 34:56
  and I had an interest because there's a little village near me where I grew up called Dresden. And I was just thinking, you know,
• 35:02
  where is Dresden the surface?
• 35:04
  And it's not listed.
• 35:07
  It was not in the glossary. It was not on the map.
• 35:11
  So, apparently,
• 35:13
  the precursor political correctness, this would have been, like, thirty years ago.
• 35:17
  They had decided to call it something different,
• 35:20
  but I know historically it existed. So what's the whole deal about Dreslin in terms of what you were referring to, Paul? And why would it be something that they would wanna gloss over for the mass audience here? Please go into it, Paul.
• 35:35
  Unknown: Well, the
• 35:36
  I'm gonna do that. The the the Dresden, yeah,
• 35:39
  Dresden bombings because they lasted several days
• 35:45
  are
• 35:46
  what
• 35:47
  words can we find? We're gonna run out of adjectives. Shameful will do for now. About because I I there's no point going overboard. The most heinous
• 35:55
  Unknown: offensive
• 35:56
  military
• 35:56
  act against civilians
• 35:58
  in the history of the world. Does that sum it up pretty good?
• 36:03
  Unknown: It sounds pretty it's about as foul as it gets.
• 36:07
  It was
• 36:09
  basically, it was not everything about it is disgusting in the sense that so the actual situation is Dresden was a city of tremendous architectural beauty
• 36:19
  and also a center of the arts
• 36:22
  and of paintings and everything.
• 36:24
  It was known as a beautiful city there
• 36:27
  and
• 36:28
  at this time we're talking February
• 36:30
  1945,
• 36:31
  at this time
• 36:33
  you had masses of refugees
• 36:36
  escaping the Red Army in the East
• 36:39
  that were concentrated
• 36:40
  in Dresden and had swollen the population
• 36:43
  up to at least probably about half a million people if not more
• 36:47
  for the weekend or the days of Valentine's
• 36:51
  Day, 02/14/1945,
• 36:55
  and this day was deemed to be an appropriate day to bomb them to smithereens,
• 37:01
  which is obviously part of these sorts of sick little things that they do all the time.
• 37:05
  So
• 37:07
  what occurred was that over the course of two to three days, wave after wave of bombs or bombers British
• 37:15
  at night, American by day came into Dresden
• 37:18
  and turned the whole place into a firestorm,
• 37:23
  the results of which are just horrific that
• 37:26
  you can't really count and swat, people are basically being liquefied instantaneously because of the heat.
• 37:33
  So
• 37:35
  one of the things that we
• 37:37
  of the things that we did last year that I did last year with Tom, and I've got the interview on record somewhere, I need to sort of put it up somewhere
• 37:45
  because it's
• 37:46
  it's it's not really a dated interview, it's talking about Dresden.
• 37:50
  At the beginning of it, I found this seven or eight minute clip from BBC television
• 37:56
  from about 2012.
• 38:00
  It might have been maybe 2014,
• 38:02
  so about four or five years ago. They were talking to a guy whose name unfortunately I've forgotten, a British guy who was in his mid nineties, very lucid,
• 38:10
  sharp as a razor,
• 38:12
  and he was telling of his account of being in Dresden.
• 38:16
  And
• 38:17
  it's a very telling and useful
• 38:20
  testimony that he provided because
• 38:23
  his
• 38:24
  story was this he said I enlisted in the British Army in 1937
• 38:28
  prior to there being hostilities,
• 38:30
  he said me and my mates wanted to go into the Army probably because life on Civvie Street wasn't that great, okay,
• 38:38
  and so he goes in he said and he saw action from that point onwards right through to the end of the war,
• 38:44
  he said he was an infantryman
• 38:47
  so he'd seen a lot of death close-up and it delivered a lot of death close-up, and he said look, said I saw a lot of terrible things, I was involved in a lot of terrible actions, he said and it was a job to me, that was it, it was a job, I was doing this
• 39:00
  and
• 39:01
  that's what I was doing, he said anyway during the Ardennes offensive he got taken prisoner by the Germans
• 39:06
  and he was sent down to
• 39:09
  Dresden
• 39:10
  to
• 39:11
  well as a prisoner of war and to tidy the place up,
• 39:15
  was basically
• 39:16
  keep the streets clean and do whatever he was told to do as a prisoner of war, so he wasn't treated badly, was just being treated as a prisoner of war,
• 39:24
  and
• 39:25
  he was down there with his another one of his colleagues have got caught captured at the same time, who I think is was called Chalky.
• 39:33
  I mean, it's a sort of common name in British military circles, I think this guy really did go to the nickname of Chalky,
• 39:39
  and he described what happened on this opening night,
• 39:43
  and
• 39:44
  I'll dig it up at some point, it's definitely worth listening to again, but the gist of what he said was
• 39:49
  he said within thirty minutes we knew
• 39:52
  that something was that this wasn't a normal bombing raid, that was the first thing.
• 39:56
  He said about an hour into it, the whole place is going up, and it's not stopping. My friend Chalky put his head out the door, got sucked out by the wind, and died.
• 40:06
  And he
• 40:07
  with inside sort of five to ten seconds, was dead.
• 40:10
  And
• 40:11
  he said
• 40:12
  I've seen all these terrible things that you have to understand he said I'm not an untough man, you could see he's a man who'd seen a lot of bad things.
• 40:20
  He said but nothing prepared me for this, he said this is women and children just exploding, what do you want me to say? He said I don't know what you want me to say about it,
• 40:29
  but the end of his communication
• 40:31
  was
• 40:32
  for me the most effective and most telling bit, and what he said was he said look I don't blame the airmen, he said they were following through whatever they had to do, so we lost 55,000
• 40:42
  men on those raids over Germany, he said that's a lot of men to lose.
• 40:46
  He said but the people that ordered this Churchill,
• 40:49
  Eden and the others he said basically the gist of what he said is they need to be rotting in hell for what they've done and what they ordered,
• 40:57
  and he didn't like them at all and that was extremely
• 41:01
  encouraging and true and people need to know this. Britons
• 41:06
  who are goofy, who still go around particularly a certain generation who were probably not in the war but were sort of you know just missed it and growing up, they go around with a sort of weird attitude that we apparently won something,
• 41:19
  there seem to be fewer and fewer, they need to be quietly shown that we won nothing
• 41:24
  and that the Germans won nothing and that we've all been paying this colossal price for it, but the Germans at the time paid the biggest price of anyone, and that's what Hellstorm covers, you know, in great detail,
• 41:35
  not just Dresden, but across the whole book. Hamburg suffered
• 41:39
  to a similar and
• 41:41
  vicious degree. You know? So it's
• 41:44
  and it's all unnecessary. It's all waging
• 41:47
  war on civilians is out of order, and that's when it started and you can blame mister Churchill for that because
• 41:52
  when he became prime minister that very first morning, he'd only been sat in the chair, you know, metaphorically speaking for a couple of hours. At lunchtime, he issued orders for them to start bombing and strafing German schools and villages.
• 42:06
  Outrageous.
• 42:07
  Absolutely outrageous. I mean, the guy just needs
• 42:10
  when I get in charge, every statute of that fart is coming down. Everything. We're gonna boil them down and turn them into latrines
• 42:18
  because that's all he's fit for, revolting,
• 42:20
  Unknown: revolting man. If there's a lot there, Robert had something to say. Robert, what was your comment?
• 42:27
  Unknown: I think I just said Munich also got
• 42:30
  to help if I'm not mistaken. Dresden
• 42:32
  Unknown: had no Although more bombs dropped on Berlin.
• 42:36
  Unknown: I was gonna say Dresden had no military
• 42:39
  targets.
• 42:40
  None. N O N E. It was a cultural
• 42:44
  most beautiful cities in in Germany, if not Europe,
• 42:48
  and,
• 42:49
  like you said, full of women and children and refugees,
• 42:53
  and they basically came in waves that were planned
• 42:57
  to to build up this inferno
• 43:00
  to the point that where people were in a in a cave or underground or some hiding place,
• 43:07
  they died because the oxygen
• 43:09
  for the fire was sucked out and they suffocated.
• 43:13
  On top of all the other horrendous
• 43:15
  and I mean some of the stories out of that that I've seen are horrendous,
• 43:20
  make your skin crawl.
• 43:23
  And that was mister Churchill
• 43:25
  and our our Edomite
• 43:27
  Jew pals that run the world.
• 43:33
  Unknown: Yeah. It's it's it's it's foul stuff. It's it's beyond foul. I mean, you know, I hear people say, well, it's war. Know, anything goes.
• 43:41
  Unknown: Go. Let
• 43:42
  me take It's It's nothing to do with it. Let me take a back step on this, Okay? Because what we center on here
• 43:48
  is what gives them the ability to do this horrendous crap we're talking about, which is to enslave the people as property
• 43:57
  in this backhanded,
• 43:58
  so
• 43:59
  treacherously
• 44:00
  deceptive
• 44:01
  manner where they can collateralize
• 44:03
  your ass to get the damn funds to do that crap and enrich their fat ass selves.
• 44:13
  Unknown: That's part of it definitely, Roger. Yeah. It is. I mean, but I I think when you when you see these accounts, when you when you have,
• 44:21
  you know, the
• 44:23
  voices that have never been heard before, when you get to hear them
• 44:26
  and you get the full impact of what it is, you begin to see that it's the money aspect is the primary tool, but it's to wage war and to remove us, there's no other reason for it.
• 44:40
  If we were in control of our own nationalized truly owned by the people centralized bank systems or whatever you want to call them,
• 44:47
  the possibilities to do these sorts of things would
• 44:50
  vastly reduced,
• 44:52
  almost to the point of them not being able to occur. So
• 44:55
  it is you know part and parcel of what we do here apart from working on ourselves individually is to extend this field of consciousness to more and more people, that's what we've got to do we've got to raise make people aware of the first level that these
• 45:10
  subject matters exist and secondly to give them some basic primary foundations to understand it,
• 45:16
  but like we said before you know what we're really doing is we're inviting people
• 45:19
  into an extremely miserable period of their life, I'm afraid we are, there's no other way to describe it.
• 45:25
  You know you might like me now but in ten minutes when I've told you a few things you're gonna wish you'd never met me, okay? So just remember this moment when you still last liked me. I know. Because one of them, you know, that's true. I know situations where friends are like, you know, talking this stuff up and and to a married couple and years later, the wife comes back. She says, I hate that bastard
• 45:45
  Unknown: for turning my husband on to all this.
• 45:48
  I've seen it happen, man. I really have. Yep. But listen,
• 45:52
  truth you you rather live in truth than walk in the pink cloud, okay? And what this allows them to do at the end, after you analyze it and look at it, it allows them to become gods here on Earth where they control everything
• 46:09
  and take that control away from the real one. I mean, all of it comes down to right there. They control
• 46:16
  their gods, and it's just like Rabbi Wise
• 46:19
  said back in the 1930s,
• 46:21
  a hundred years ago almost,
• 46:23
  the Jewish people are their own Messiah.
• 46:26
  That's a direct quote out of his mouth.
• 46:31
  Unknown: Well, guess, know, when
• 46:33
  these Edomite people have rejected God, I'm not saying all of them have, know, you sent me a quote from Bobby Fischer, right? Bobby Fischer was on to it. Just this morning, this morning,
• 46:42
  Unknown: I sent it to you. I'm
• 46:44
  Unknown: aware of these guys, so it's not, but in the organized levels when they are maintaining their position of effectively sticking two fingers up at God,
• 46:52
  they're going to come out with this sort of weird stuff like we're God and all this kind of stuff. Why? Because they've nowhere else left to go,
• 47:00
  and
• 47:01
  they're in a permanent condition of self deception,
• 47:05
  and you can't reach them, it's impossible to reach them, they are permanently
• 47:08
  self deceived,
• 47:10
  because to bring them out of that I don't know you would even do it, they're committed to it, and so
• 47:16
  anybody like us that reminds or is going in the path of going back towards the light is a direct threat to them. And I read something years ago, which I read every now and again, it gets repeated in certain places.
• 47:29
  In fact, it comes from a blog which I read
• 47:32
  really a lot called Cambria Will Not Yield,
• 47:36
  and it's written by an American whose name I do not know. So I just call him mister Cambria Will Not Yield. He's an ex US
• 47:43
  I don't know what to call him because I've never spoken to him but if he ever hears me I would I would love to speak to him and
• 47:49
  he's an ex US law enforcement officer. I think the way he writes at a pretty high level he's a very intelligent man and he says some fantastic stuff and what he says about the dark side of things is this they cannot attack God directly,
• 48:02
  so they have to attack those people
• 48:05
  who are on their way to the light
• 48:08
  and they do this by raising up a cloud
• 48:11
  of smoke so big, so foul,
• 48:14
  so deceptive
• 48:15
  that it obscures the light of higher things from the people that want to reach it. And I think that that's very, very accurate. They can't directly affect the law. They can't do it. So they're involved in a permanent communications exercise
• 48:29
  to distract our attention and to pay attention to them as they go around in their self deceived world, and we have to you know, what's that phrase come out of her, come out of it simply pay no creeds,
• 48:41
  but it's easier said than done, but it's our challenge. In those seminars,
• 48:45
  Unknown: towards the end of the seminar, he'd draw all the thirty hours we'd been exposed
• 48:51
  to back into a biblical finale.
• 48:54
  And one of the things that he would say often
• 48:57
  and I sat through three of those, okay? The entire weekend, thirty plus hours.
• 49:02
  They say, the back
• 49:04
  in Revelation, it says, they have deceived the nations
• 49:08
  with their sorcery,
• 49:11
  right?
• 49:12
  And so, he said, you go to sorcery
• 49:15
  and you go and look at the definition of sorcery and there's several as there are numerous words and one of them is chant.
• 49:23
  Chant, c h a n t. And he said, could the sorcery
• 49:28
  that has deceived the nations
• 49:31
  be
• 49:32
  UCC
• 49:35
  UCC
• 49:38
  UCC
• 49:39
  because
• 49:40
  it's under bringing in the merchant law
• 49:43
  and making it for private and public consumption
• 49:46
  that they've been able to pull this off.
• 49:52
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 49:53
  Yeah. I think, you know,
• 49:55
  if you look at everything that that comes out of that space, and I include all the free free Masonic goofballs as well with this, everything that they're involved with is complex,
• 50:05
  massively complex. Always. They they love it. They love the complexity,
• 50:10
  and they they the idea is that we're supposed to buy into the idea that all this intellectual complexity, complexity which which they've they've strung strung around things is somehow a sign of wisdom,
• 50:20
  whereas in fact it's a sign of the complete opposite.
• 50:23
  But it works, it's very effective. Oh, they're so clever. You hear people saying that well, I'm not clever. We don't want to be clever because I would suggest that within that word clever,
• 50:32
  there is a hint of the deceptive snake someone's a clever dick, right? We're
• 50:37
  not here to be clever,
• 50:38
  we're here to be sort of calm, dutiful, and hopefully
• 50:42
  have moments of wisdom from time to time if we're allowed them, but they are clever, They are. And they're welcome to it, they're welcome In to their
• 50:50
  Unknown: the Al Jazeera
• 50:51
  expose,
• 50:53
  the one in UK and the one in The US has hit recently,
• 50:56
  there's a segment in there,
• 50:58
  they cover a couple of times this bull dyke Israeli general,
• 51:03
  and I don't remember her name
• 51:06
  but it showed some clips of her
• 51:08
  talking to in Israel to their whoever she was and she's like the head of all this cyber stuff, okay? And she's talking to the people in the audience that she's instructing on this stuff and she makes a direct statement in there. We must be tricky and deceptive.
• 51:26
  When I when she said it, I said, well, what the hell else is new? You're always tricky and deceptive on everything you do.
• 51:34
  But it was outright stated right there in in that in that setting by that woman. And it's that chutzpah,
• 51:42
  Paul.
• 51:43
  It it and I've often wonder, where does it all come from collectively? It's gotta come from that book, this disgusting Talmud that Jesus was so repulsed by that we see the effects of it today because they're all raised on it.
• 51:57
  You're better than everybody else. You're better than everybody else. You're smarter than everybody else because you'll do all this and these other people have this moral code and they won't. So, you're better than them.
• 52:10
  Unknown: Is that the book that the forgery?
• 52:12
  Unknown: No. No. No. That's the protocols is the forgery.
• 52:16
  That the the Babylonian
• 52:17
  Talmud is the real deal but you know, Robert, Jesus talked about it a lot of a lot in the Old Testament but he also always referred to it as the tradition of the elders.
• 52:29
  They were too ashamed.
• 52:31
  They were so afraid if they wrote it down, it would backlash on them that they only passed it down orally from father to son. It wasn't until five hundred years after they crucified Christ that it was written down.
• 52:49
  Unknown: That's what
• 52:50
  Unknown: we're dealing with here and it's the same darn thing Jesus was dealing with and it's this fake doctrine of superiority
• 52:58
  that's put into these people from birth.
• 53:06
  Unknown: Yeah, mean I just see it as an offshoot from what happens when you reject God.
• 53:11
  I mean that's
• 53:12
  Unknown: it really. Well, you know it goes back twice. That's it, I mean
• 53:17
  Unknown: it's a law, you know, you can see this on it's like an engineering principle. Yes. It's a law. Yes. It's dynamically applied. There's nothing we can do to save someone from that. It's a bit like saying if you if that guy jumps off that cliff, there's nothing I can do. No. There isn't. Gravity will win or whatever you want to call it. The law of attraction is gonna take that guy from the top of the cliff to the bottom and it's gonna be strawberry jam time,
• 53:39
  right? So there you go, that's called the law, and it doesn't matter how much I don't like that law, okay you don't like it, but it's a law you see, so whether you like it or not is really irrelevant,
• 53:49
  it's just absolutely irrelevant, and
• 53:52
  because they're involved in a process of having as I said stuck two fingers up at the law,
• 53:58
  the actual law, they've created their own and we're supposed to accept you see I see people write these things the Noahide laws, they're not laws,
• 54:05
  they're not, they're whims,
• 54:07
  the Noahide whims,
• 54:09
  and you should so the level as soon as you start repeating
• 54:13
  the words that they've delivered, the lines that they've delivered,
• 54:16
  you're beginning to get wrapped up in their stuff, you just dismiss it at the level of words and then it can't have any binding purchase on you, that's the idea. You're parroting,
• 54:25
  parodying Keep their part of our defense mechanisms as It it sure is. And unfortunately,
• 54:30
  Unknown: there's not very large percentage of us that are wanting to find the real answers, but I got to believe more and more people every day are looking.
• 54:38
  And you know, we got some big ones here and hopefully, they'll be able to find us and we'll connect at some point down the line. That's the end game of everything we're doing. In the interim, the present game is to touch out and reach people like Robert and Terrence and Bob and and to have a forum where we can discuss these things, explore em, expand
• 54:59
  them, and a forum where other people that are new that are looking for the answers can come join in and get their answers and I think really all in all, we do a pretty good job.
• 55:12
  Unknown: Yep.
• 55:13
  Unknown: I mean, thanks to you. You gotta keep on doing that job. Paul, thanks to you. If it wasn't for you, none of would be happening. So, I don't give you enough credit or often enough and I want to and want everybody to know that it's your dedication and hard work that
• 55:29
  allows this to happen.
• 55:33
  Unknown: Well, it's just we're just taking advantage of whatever tools we've got at any moment in the history to try and you know turn the ship around,
• 55:42
  and I think you see because these are laws and principles that we're talking about,
• 55:46
  all that's going to happen is what's continuing to happen, which is life is going to get more and more painful for everyone
• 55:54
  until they begin to turn their head or pull it out of their bottom and look at the law,
• 56:01
  because it's a law, because you can't sort of negotiate with it which is really what the Edomites want to do. We'd like it like this and we'd like it well or less these are nice sentences that's fantastic, nice hobby go away it doesn't apply.
• 56:13
  These are concrete principles you know there are principles that apply whilst we're running around as
• 56:18
  physical human beings.
• 56:20
  They just do, they apply and it seems to me that wisdom is something that you acquire the more
• 56:26
  more able you are to recognize these things, which used to be called common sense,
• 56:32
  but now you can see can you not, we can all see that from the way that the media is handled,
• 56:37
  the stories that are propelled through the repetition systems
• 56:40
  are gibberish,
• 56:42
  all of this trans agenda
• 56:44
  stuff I'm using their words, don't intend to, but you can sit there just peddling all this stuff, none of it will work, it's already ruined
• 56:52
  and instead of reacting against it we just have to look at it say well there is a symptom of the disease striking certain people and they're doomed and they are. The idea is to not engage with them,
• 57:03
  not even
• 57:04
  resist them,
• 57:05
  not react to them, but really focus on binding with people who are plowing this furrow. I I think that's that's really what it is to maintain your sanity and decency
• 57:14
  as you go through life to the best of your ability, that's really we can do. And the more of us that do that,
• 57:19
  the more
• 57:20
  Unknown: thrilling it becomes. It's not it's always gonna be tough, but there are there are moments where it becomes quite thrilling to connect with other people that are on the same wavelength. Well, I think I I what you've done for me with this platform is, man, I'd be bored stiff if I didn't have this. I'd be trying to talk to all these people that don't understand anything. And here's the pitfall,
• 57:39
  is you get to that level and you gotta go back. If somebody is interested and you gotta them from the bottom up to get to the level where you want to talk to em at and it's quite a chore.
• 57:49
  So, we can have this forum here. We can have this this
• 57:53
  discussion, different ideas, this teaching of different concepts,
• 57:57
  this this strive for freedom for the people that are looking for it and people like Robert that's on with us right now. I mean, I can't tell you what a pleasure it is and the friendship that Robert and I have developed over last couple of years, man and to meet people like Robert who he and I's paths would have never crossed in this life.
• 58:19
  Unknown: And now there was a late great George Riley. No, probably not. Yep.
• 58:23
  Unknown: So, it's a great joy for me. I don't try and get money out of you guys for this. I'm willing to pay for the, you know, hopefully, the small cost that we incur out of my own pocket because I think this is so important. I don't want to be selling your ears. I don't want to be advertisements.
• 58:39
  I want us to be able to come on here and have extended
• 58:43
  time frames where we can discuss
• 58:45
  complex,
• 58:47
  important
• 58:47
  concepts and ideas.
• 58:52
  And you can't do that when you're going into a three minute way.
• 58:55
  In every
• 58:56
  five minutes, if you're going into a three minute break, that's impossible to do,
• 59:02
  Unknown: virtually. Yeah. You mean you're not doing moneyball?
• 59:05
  Unknown: I'm not doing what, Ron? I actually kinda like the breaks though. I'm a bit of a I I actually I think of all the mediums that we could be involved with, when you've got audio, you know, sometimes the little the little ad break or the station ID thing and and there's a lot you can do with those. They're like a little sort of pool of rest in all this
• 59:24
  yeah. They're quite good. Not not that I'm saying we should do those because they require they require as much work to do as the show. Sitting in front of the mic
• 59:32
  is a is a good stream of consciousness thing and we move the conversation around, but the other thing is a program. By the way, earlier on
• 59:38
  was and I know it's been you've sent this to me Roger and Greg keeps sending these things to me, this video series
• 59:45
  Europa the last battle this series and all that kind of stuff, and
• 59:50
  I've seen some of them and I'm very familiar with nearly everything, it sounds awfully cocky but I am because most of the source material they've used for that, I've read nearly all of the books, I don't know what they've covered all of it, but it's good nevertheless I'm not saying it's not good, it's very very useful. In alignment with that or as an adjunct to that I want to mention something to you that I came across the other day
• 1:00:09
  which is just amazing to me
• 1:00:12
  and it's right on point. There's a writer called Andrew Joyce, now I think he writes over at the Occidental Observer which is
• 1:00:19
  Kevin
• 1:00:20
  McDonald's.
• 1:00:21
  Yeah,
• 1:00:23
  that's right.
• 1:00:24
  That's right, and he writes elsewhere, he's a very good writer.
• 1:00:28
  Now I want you to you've just got to stay with this, this is really interesting. There's
• 1:00:32
  a picture of a book here
• 1:00:35
  which Joyce is
• 1:00:37
  understandably
• 1:00:38
  as you will come to see criticizing.
• 1:00:41
  I've got to read you the title of it though, are you ready? Here we go. This was published last year by
• 1:00:49
  Harvard University
• 1:00:50
  Press,
• 1:00:51
  a proper publisher,
• 1:00:53
  but get this as the title:
• 1:00:55
  A Spectre Haunting Europe The
• 1:00:58
  Myth
• 1:00:59
  the Myth
• 1:01:00
  of Judeo Bolshevism.
• 1:01:03
  Unknown: Oh yeah.
• 1:01:07
  Unknown: Absolutely amazing. Yeah
• 1:01:09
  they published the myth apparently Judeo Bolshevism
• 1:01:12
  is now in the process of becoming a myth because obviously the Harvard University Press this would be the opening fuselage that they're actually releasing on the mind, you see.
• 1:01:22
  But I've got to read you a couple of little bits here, he says
• 1:01:25
  the writing and discussion this is Joyce, I'll just read a couple of bits at the beginning the writing and discussion of Jewish historiography
• 1:01:32
  in contemporary
• 1:01:34
  mainstream academia
• 1:01:36
  requires
• 1:01:37
  a sublime choreography.
• 1:01:39
  It's basically, he writes, a series of evasions
• 1:01:43
  resembling dances
• 1:01:44
  in which facts are presented and parried
• 1:01:48
  and flamboyant
• 1:01:49
  narratives are advanced which everyone knows to be false,
• 1:01:52
  but which emerge repetitively
• 1:01:54
  and shamelessly.
• 1:01:56
  My attention was first drawn to Paul Hanna Brink's a Spectre Haunting Europe the Myth of Judea Bolshevism'
• 1:02:02
  by Christopher Browning's recent glowing review of it titled
• 1:02:07
  the Fake threat of Jewish communism in the New York review of books.
• 1:02:14
  Browning, he writes, is an establishment historian with a record of legally
• 1:02:19
  assisting Jews for the right price as well as receiving over $30,000
• 1:02:23
  from Deborah Lipstadt to testify against David Irving that would have been in the Irving trial in London about 2000.
• 1:02:29
  Browning has testified against a significant number of European ex soldiers at war crimes trials. Good guy this, hey, Browning? Although his most notable work, Ordinary Men blah blah blah blah blah contains the less than remarkable thesis that war turns ordinary men into killers.
• 1:02:45
  Wow rocket scientist. Browning's dedication to the Jewish narrative has led to his becoming a true guru of Jewish victimology.
• 1:02:53
  I like the way this guy writes. Having received awards and funds from organizations
• 1:02:58
  including Yad Vashem and the USC Shoah Foundation Center
• 1:03:02
  and copious promotion in mainstream media and academia, Browning's certificate of praise
• 1:03:08
  in the field is potentially career making.
• 1:03:11
  Evidently,
• 1:03:12
  he has chosen to bestow his magic touch on Paul Hanabrink.
• 1:03:17
  In this essay, I want to explore the approach of both Browning's review
• 1:03:22
  and Hanabrink's
• 1:03:23
  text as exercises
• 1:03:24
  in the manufacture
• 1:03:26
  of
• 1:03:27
  duplicitous
• 1:03:28
  histories. So this is going on right now in your backyard and in mine, we've got these complete
• 1:03:34
  liars lying their bottoms off and these people are doomed, we don't have to do anything about it. Let me just read you these last couple of sentences then you can step in, he writes this
• 1:03:43
  he said I had to look twice at Browning's headline, this is Joyce writing, he says my
• 1:03:49
  first thought was really?
• 1:03:52
  You really want to take this subject matter on?
• 1:03:55
  You really think you can debunk the facticity
• 1:03:58
  of Jewish communism?
• 1:04:01
  I just I mean really,
• 1:04:02
  says such an endeavor would unquestionably
• 1:04:05
  require abundant chutzpah,
• 1:04:07
  but it is clear from the very beginning of the review that this will be an effort of evasion
• 1:04:12
  rather than outright debate, and that's where we come back to its evasion.
• 1:04:17
  Our discussions here are not, although we're going to we're going to win through on this are not to be given any airtime, they are, we're developing our airtime and our reach all the time, but theirs to be given all the airtime and therefore if you don't know that the other side exists you actually come to swallow their their lies hook line and sinker. But the myth of Judea Bolshevism I thought I'd throw that in Roger given that really you know a great central core to the Europa
• 1:04:43
  battalion of videos is that of course
• 1:04:45
  Bolshevism and communism are entirely Judaic,
• 1:04:49
  Unknown: entirely. Says it
• 1:04:51
  right in the Judaic encyclopedia.
• 1:04:56
  Unknown: Jews
• 1:04:57
  themselves.
• 1:04:58
  Maybe mister Browning needs to be introduced as he's got a good name, hasn't he? I mean, you know, brown nosing. Browning is obviously what he's just a short name for it. So I mean, what a revolting character. And I I think that these people
• 1:05:10
  isn't there something that Christ says about these? You know, you go all the way around the world to make a an acolyte and make them I'm paraphrasing badly, and make them double a creature of hell than you are. Well, here here you are. You're looking at what a lost tragic idiotic soul. What a joke. What a joke of a human being. A joke.
• 1:05:28
  Unknown: You know, as I've said on the show and lately several times,
• 1:05:32
  the reason you need to be aware of this is because either now really in The UK or in The US,
• 1:05:38
  if these bastards could pull it off tomorrow,
• 1:05:41
  they do it.
• 1:05:44
  Unknown: Well, they do it because they know there
• 1:05:46
  is an ever growing number of people now onto them
• 1:05:49
  and it ain't in just one country. Nope, it's worldwide. So the whole of Europe, it's worldwide
• 1:05:56
  and
• 1:05:57
  that we're in a race, we've got to glue our people together more and more quickly that's why we need to get a shake on and do it and it's why it's tremendously worthwhile and valuable doing all this kind of stuff, to ensure that those circumstances we were talking about a little bit earlier have less and less chance of coming about.
• 1:06:14
  I you know, we just don't want anything like that if we could because with the modern technology that's available, if somebody goes if they go berserk, and unfortunately I suspect that it's in their makeup to go berserk because history shows it,
• 1:06:27
  then I'm afraid it's gonna be it it could we could easily say that it's gonna make Dresden look like a tea party, which is a frightening thought. But then they're all pretty frightening, other thoughts, really. So we shouldn't we shouldn't sit in fear all day long, but you know what I mean. I you really I wish and have for some time that if there's any way that we could hook up some sort support in some way, BDS,
• 1:06:48
  Unknown: I would be all for it because I really believe in that, and I love their reaction to it.
• 1:06:54
  That tells me how serious
• 1:06:56
  they think it is, and the reason they know is because of what they did to Germany.
• 1:07:03
  We can do it, but you can't. Ain't that the way with everything? Oh, we can do this, but you can't.
• 1:07:11
  Unknown: Yes. The fact that that we listen to that part of the sentence where it says, but you can't,
• 1:07:16
  or that we even think that they should have a voice. You see, we need to de platform them from out of our minds
• 1:07:24
  individually,
• 1:07:25
  that's how it begins.
• 1:07:27
  I say this to
• 1:07:29
  myself and to others, I say they,
• 1:07:31
  you, Freemasons, whatever they may be, you have no standing in my affairs, you have no voice, you have no authority, I don't give it to you, you have none, to me you are a feather, you're a sad figure of evil and ridicule and that's what I'm going to make use of you for, but I do thank you for existing because you illustrate that the law always works out.
• 1:07:51
  Unknown: That's all these people are, we should look at them, Symptoms of the law. We have the ability to do that by filing an affidavit with the secretary of state. We can do exactly what you just said. And it's not symbolic and it's not empty because if you try and do it from the bottom up, you ain't getting anywhere with it. I promise you, I've seen people try to do it for thirty years.
• 1:08:13
  The only way it works is to go to the head guy.
• 1:08:18
  And it's not difficult. You write, you could write out a sentence. I'm telling you, you could write out, I'm not related
• 1:08:26
  to black slaves
• 1:08:28
  after the Civil War, and get that notarized,
• 1:08:31
  and I guarantee you that that one sentence would work.
• 1:08:38
  Mhmm. You write a nice cover letter on there, drip it drip a little honey on it, and tell them to place this firmly and permanently in my administrative
• 1:08:47
  file, and you're done.
• 1:08:50
  And they're done too.
• 1:08:52
  It's done. You know, as Paul,
• 1:08:55
  Gandhi, Gandhi's famous statement, one of them anyway, was first they ignore you, then they fight you, demonize you, then they fight you, and then you win. You've heard that, right?
• 1:09:06
  Yep. Okay. Well, with this,
• 1:09:10
  for they ignore you because
• 1:09:12
  they can't bring any attention to it. They can't fight you because you've already beaten them and you've already won.
• 1:09:22
  Unknown: Yep.
• 1:09:23
  Unknown: Okay?
• 1:09:24
  Because it's just they can't, they're not powerful enough to do away with those old systems. All they can do is lay a veneer over it and do their best to hide it and cover it up and make you believe it never was there.
• 1:09:39
  Which is exactly what they've done.
• 1:09:43
  Unknown: Is the pen miner than the sword?
• 1:09:46
  Unknown: Yes.
• 1:09:47
  Strongest thing in the most powerful thing in the universe,
• 1:09:50
  Robert,
• 1:09:51
  is idea.
• 1:09:56
  Can't It is. They can't stop ideas.
• 1:09:59
  They can stop somebody with a knife or a gun.
• 1:10:03
  They can't stop ideas.
• 1:10:06
  Unknown: No.
• 1:10:08
  It's not possible.
• 1:10:10
  It's not possible.
• 1:10:12
  And those ideas that are in line with the law and with common sense
• 1:10:15
  are impossible to extirpate from a population, you can't do it.
• 1:10:21
  You know, look at what they sought to do with the Russians.
• 1:10:27
  Is what they thought of. Now you have a situation where Russia,
• 1:10:30
  even though it's still not no country is clean at all you know, none, but Russia is undergoing
• 1:10:37
  a kind of spiritual
• 1:10:40
  restoration process of the most intense type,
• 1:10:43
  so they are they believe in families, they believe in de platforming sodomites,
• 1:10:48
  they all the things that are actually sound and by definition they just become strong,
• 1:10:55
  it's not rocket science, you do that stuff, everybody starts to feel minute by minute, moment by moment stronger, optimism,
• 1:11:03
  you know,
• 1:11:05
  returns. Did you see what? Vision returns, strength returns.
• 1:11:08
  Unknown: Do you see what Putin did recently? Made an offer anybody that has three children, he'll give you $14,000.
• 1:11:16
  Unknown: That's easy, I've been saying that for years to be so you know I've talked to people in the pub and say how do you like to not pay income tax anymore? They go oh that can't be done, I'm going it can? What do you mean it can't be done? What are you talking about? What do you know about income tax? Well not much. I go, there you go.
• 1:11:32
  You don't know much. I said, don't worry, I'm not blaming you. Have you ever been taught anything about income tax and banking systems at school?
• 1:11:39
  Well,
• 1:11:40
  what do you expect?
• 1:11:42
  Unknown: Only that you got to pay it.
• 1:11:45
  Unknown: Supposedly.
• 1:11:47
  Supposedly only you've only got to pay it because we all agree, but if a group says, if 500,000
• 1:11:54
  people marched into London said we're not paying this anymore, then they won't get paid.
• 1:11:58
  If 17,400,000
• 1:11:59
  people though can be ignored on Brexit,
• 1:12:02
  right? So it's this ignoring
• 1:12:06
  situation,
• 1:12:07
  so that's the game, they ignore you, so we need to ignore them. We need to literally just reform,
• 1:12:14
  in my case, need to reform our nation. I need to do that.
• 1:12:19
  I need to do that, and on the list of people that can't be involved in that process is everybody that's in power right now.
• 1:12:25
  Just need to get it's like a you know a blacklist, can't be involved, were
• 1:12:31
  given a chance, you proved that you could not
• 1:12:34
  honor your
• 1:12:35
  word, you didn't serve the people of the nation, therefore you're not a servant of the nation, not because I say so but because you clearly didn't serve us,
• 1:12:43
  So you're not involved anymore, bye bye. Now these are just words that I'm using but it's to get the
• 1:12:48
  conversation and the thoughts going, to get people to restructure what they think they can think about,
• 1:12:54
  instead of thinking about sport all the time. It's not that sports bad or that any of these things are bad, although pornography is bad and needs to be completely shut down, it's a terrible terrible thing right,
• 1:13:05
  but it's that
• 1:13:08
  pushes everything else out of people's brains, they spend their entire day thinking about this stuff and they don't therefore think about anything else.
• 1:13:16
  It's just about room,
• 1:13:18
  it's not about intelligence, you go what you gonna yeah it's like hard drive space. I can only consider so many things at once. We all can. Okay. Yep. And they've got me considering
• 1:13:26
  sport and soaps and all this guff, and that's what they've got most people thinking about most of the time,
• 1:13:32
  which is not thinking at all as we well know. It's not that's not thinking. That's just absorbing. It's not reality. That's for sure. You're being distracted and sucked over into other different realities.
• 1:13:43
  Unknown: You know, all these all these, black kids around the country think they're gonna all grow up and play in the NBA.
• 1:13:49
  You know how many spots are in the NBA, Robert? There ain't very damn many.
• 1:13:55
  Unknown: Not no. Not many. It's just
• 1:13:57
  not many.
• 1:13:59
  Unknown: Couple 100 maybe. Okay. I I don't know if there's that many. But we were talking the other day. I mean, it's only spoil.
• 1:14:05
  Well, about how all
• 1:14:08
  these kids are susceptible
• 1:14:10
  to this socialism,
• 1:14:12
  communism programming,
• 1:14:14
  right?
• 1:14:15
  And one of the things I was watching, a guy did a video on it and at the start of it, he went over some stuff that startled me because you could put, you clearly put it together and I never had and that's the all of the stuff they've been given the young people over the last couple of decades. Oh, there are no losers and everybody gets a trophy and there are no grades.
• 1:14:37
  All that Well,
• 1:14:38
  those kids get indoctrinated and brought up with that and they get out in the real world and they fail. Obviously, they're gonna fall back on socialism.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Of course. Yeah. What did you give me?
• 1:14:52
  Of course. Paul, is there a can you guys do an affidavit in Europe? You mentioned not paying taxes.
• 1:14:58
  Unknown: I don't know. I've not really inquired. I think that's I think that's what the common law birth certificate is is the European affidavit,
• 1:15:04
  Robert. You see, the difference is they don't have a fourteenth amendment over there.
• 1:15:09
  We do.
• 1:15:12
  Unknown: Yeah. That's true.
• 1:15:14
  Unknown: Okay. They're all subjects.
• 1:15:17
  Everybody's a subject over there. Paul? I I
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  Unknown: guess I I don't mind what words are used. I I the word that's of great interest to me at the moment is this word 'we', right,
• 1:15:30
  because
• 1:15:31
  I think about this word 'we' a lot and you have to really
• 1:15:35
  for me anyway, I keep paring it down, I want to know who I when I use the word 'we', who am I referring to? I often ask myself who do I think I'm including
• 1:15:44
  in my view of things?
• 1:15:46
  Well,
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  you know we've discussed it here, the race thing for me, I don't worry I won't get it again this week necessarily,
• 1:15:52
  but for me that's just it not because I say so,
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  but because it is, it's self evidently the case in my physical universe that that is the way it is, right? It's not another way, it's this way.
• 1:16:04
  I didn't make it this way, I'm not responsible for it as far as I'm aware, unless I've got some sort of great cosmic amnesia and I really am God, and I created all this and I can't remember how I did it, know, which I think is highly unlikely,
• 1:16:16
  although we could all have that thought if we want, you you could all go around with that thought, I must have created all this but I just can't remember what it was that I did. Yeah, we're sort of in this massively forgetful
• 1:16:25
  state having this drama, know. By the way, I have to say I think in Buddhist thinking that's that is the gist of it, know, they say that God
• 1:16:34
  being all powerful and bored out of his brains that's that's a European way but thinking what do I do next decided to lose himself in his own creation and try and pull himself all back together again and that's what this is all about to keep him interested
• 1:16:47
  which is rather a quaint way of looking at it. And may be true. I don't know.
• 1:16:52
  Unknown: You know? Well, yeah, let me draw let me bring a different point. You know, you're you hit on race. I know that you're hot button, and I understand all of that. But here on our forum, we got two white guys and a black guy, and we're all drawn here because of freedom Yeah. Not race.
• 1:17:08
  Unknown: That's right. That's right. But the race thing, you see, is I'm just trying to get people to understand that it even just exists. And then you look at the laws and I'm trying to work out how do we how do we operate and if it is a law,
• 1:17:22
  if the law suggests to us through the Bible to our people which is what I am absolutely convinced about, that document was not written by Edomites,
• 1:17:30
  it's got nothing, it's not their book, they're pretending to do that. So given that that if that is the case, if if that assumption that I make is is true, it instructs us to not interact with other races in that way. Now why would it do that?
• 1:17:42
  This doesn't mean about being hostile to other people, certainly not my stance, I don't want that, but it's certainly about
• 1:17:49
  devoting your energies to your own people, which I think all people would want to do, and on that thing my defensive gambit to this rightful sort of observation is I say I stand with people like Muhammad Ali and Malcolm X. You want me to play that?
• 1:18:05
  Unknown: Me
• 1:18:07
  got that I've got that clip. I've got that clip. Robert, did I send this to you? I think I did.
• 1:18:16
  Yeah, I don't remember. Refresh me. Okay, well it's two clips and the first one is about Malcolm X and he's talking to a group of people,
• 1:18:24
  and the other one is an interview and I'm gonna switch switch at computers here and I think I'm going to be able to play it, okay? Thank you. Paul's got us all fixed up now and
• 1:18:35
  if it comes through here in a minute,
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  is a situation where
• 1:18:40
  Ali back in more of his prime was a guest
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  on a
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  Unknown: I sent it to the wrong profile. Michael it's the Michael Parkinson show. It's the Michael Parkinson show.
• 1:18:53
  Yeah. I'm letting you know. He's a Yorkshireman like me, but we don't like it. We never my dad never liked him. I'm just letting you know. Well, I can understand why your dad didn't
• 1:19:04
  Unknown: didn't like him at all.
• 1:19:05
  Unknown: He didn't like him. I'd wanna pop him. Didn't like him. Okay. Let me so he gets on this
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  Unknown: British television show, Robert,
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  and the guy and it comes out with race mixing gets to be discussed here,
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  and it is real interesting. So if I can get this thing up and get it queued up, I'm not going to play the Malcolm X thing
• 1:19:28
  and of course, we're a little slow here. Let me see if I can get it. And I some of it distorts a little bit, I think, Paul.
• 1:19:37
  If I remember correctly,
• 1:19:39
  See if I can get the same ways.
• 1:19:42
  I can't wait to get a better internet one of these days.
• 1:19:45
  See if I can get this. But it's a very interesting comment and the way that Muhammad Ali reacted.
• 1:19:53
  Okay?
• 1:19:54
  So I think it's coming up here. Let's see if I can get this.
• 1:19:58
  No? Why isn't it coming through?
• 1:20:01
  Well, he's talking and I got oh, I know why. Hold on.
• 1:20:05
  I turned down the sound so we wouldn't get all those And I'm sure no intelligent white person
• 1:20:11
  Let's see if we can get this from the start here, guys. It's not, you know All is splendor. Ladies and gentlemen, Muhammad Ali.
• 1:20:30
  Unknown: Black people must do something for themselves and not always beg white people to move in the neighborhoods. We clean their own neighborhoods.
• 1:20:37
  And another thing, when you say integration,
• 1:20:39
  it comes on the intermarriage too, right? All been together. Right. Sure. And I'm sure no intelligent white person watching this show, no intelligent
• 1:20:47
  white man in his or her right white man,
• 1:20:50
  want black boys and black girls marrying their white sons and daughters, and in return, introducing their grandchildren as half brown, kinky haired black people. I would I would
• 1:21:00
  object to that. Well, you wouldn't, but a lot of them would. But I'm sure a lot people No. It's just the point. What I'm trying to say is this. What I'm trying to say is this. You don't have it. You say you don't, but you don't have it. You really ain't gonna have it. You're on the show, and you gotta say that. But what is
• 1:21:12
  Unknown: No. That's
• 1:21:13
  Unknown: that's that's not true. Why would you wanna do that? Because because I don't I don't think I'm any different from you, you see. Yeah. We yeah. We're much different. I mean, I think society made us different. We know we're different. And we're all together. But society has made us different. No. Not society. God made us different. No. No. We're just human beings. He made all of us. We all listen. Blue birds fly with blue birds. Red birds wanna be with red birds. Listen. Listen. Tell me when I'm wrong. Pigeons wanna be with pigeons. Tell me when I'm wrong. Intelligence. Well, have an Well, we must They
• 1:21:40
  they they don't intelligence, but yet they stay together. We should have more intelligence than them. Right?
• 1:21:45
  Buzzards are with buzzards. Yeah.
• 1:21:49
  Buzzards are with buzzards.
• 1:21:50
  Bluebirds are with bluebirds.
• 1:21:52
  They all are birds, but
• 1:21:54
  they've got different cultures. The eagles like to hang out in the mountains. The buzzard like to fly around the desert. The bluebird like to fly around the trees. The berserker's problems are a buzzard mating with a sparrow, wouldn't there? What? The berserker. No. That's right. And that's me. We have the problems too. No. But I didn't see I didn't see I don't see no black and white couples in England or America walking around proud holding their children.
• 1:22:16
  That's because society And going out. That's that's society's fault. I mean, educate people around this world. Well, life is too short for me to be really catching hell for something like that. I'd rather go and be my own. I have a beautiful daughter, beautiful wife. They look like me. We're all happy. I don't have no trouble.
• 1:22:31
  I ain't trouble. Ain't I ain't that much in love with no woman to go through all that hell. Ain't no one woman that good.
• 1:22:37
  You
• 1:22:38
  understand? I understand. Yeah. I just I do understand. I understand. I think it's I think it's sad that It ain't sad because I want my child to look like me. Every intelligent person wants his child to look like him. I'm sad because I wanna blot out my race and lose my beautiful identity. Chinese love Chinese.
• 1:22:54
  They love the little slanted out pretty brown skin babies.
• 1:22:57
  Pakistanis love their culture. Jewish people love their culture. A lot of Catholics don't want man them with Catholics. They want the religion to stay the same. Who want to spot up yourself and kill your race?
• 1:23:07
  You you a hate of your people you don't wanna stay who you are. You shame what god made you. God didn't make no mistake when he made us all like we were. Think that's a philosophy of despair. Despair. Do. It ain't no despair. I think Number one, can no woman. Let me tell you something. I wanna tell you.
• 1:23:22
  Listen. No woman on this whole earth, not even a black woman in Muslim countries can please me and cook for me and socialize and talk to me like my American black woman. No woman at last is a white woman can really identify
• 1:23:36
  with me and my feelings and the way I act and the way I talk.
• 1:23:39
  See? And you can't take no Chinese man and give him no Puerto Rican woman and holler about we in love and you emotionally in love and physically, but really, they're not happy because she's gonna hear some Puerto Rican music, he's gonna hear some Chinese music, and they're be clashing all the time.
• 1:23:54
  It's just nature. You can do what you want, but it's nature to want to be with your own.
• 1:23:59
  I wanna be with my own. I love my people. That's all. I hate nobody.
• 1:24:04
  Unknown: So that's about the end of that clip. What'd y'all think of that?
• 1:24:10
  Unknown: Interesting. Hadn't heard that before. I I thought I dropped it. Sometimes I see this my machine for I've had that for ten years now. Have you? My machine for ten years.
• 1:24:19
  Well, yeah, because he nails it. He does.
• 1:24:23
  You see, he
• 1:24:24
  absolutely nailed on and
• 1:24:26
  the audience are completely goofy brain dead white people, all laughing and tittering and all that kind of and when Parkinson says I think that's a philosophy of despair really?
• 1:24:36
  Really? You know, he just puts him right every single time. He was a he's a fantastic bloke for his people and that and and on that basis you go top top bloke,
• 1:24:47
  you know, who could not who could not like that bloke? He's got integrity and he's telling the truth, that's all that's required of everybody. And I'll tell you why they hate There's not enough of it going on. And you know why they hated hearing it? Because he's the most recognized person in the world.
• 1:25:02
  Well of course and if you're trying to sort of squish everybody together and chew everybody up, you don't want a guy like him saying things like that, you know,
• 1:25:10
  Unknown: do you? He did. He's gonna listen, they did listen. One of my friends from Atlanta sent me that a couple weeks ago and I tuned it over, hit the link and it came up and I listened to it and first thing I did was send it to Paul.
• 1:25:25
  Unknown: It's I've had it many many years. I've had it many many years, but Ace, I I was glad that you got it. I've,
• 1:25:32
  you know, that's why we didn't like Parkinson when he starts coming out with all this garbage. It's complete garbage.
• 1:25:37
  You see, and of course, the idea is that the arguments got to be phrased that white people are supremacists and all this. No. It's not. It's just completely natural to wanna be with your own, and it works best for nearly everyone. Doesn't mean that we can't interact with other people or get
• 1:25:51
  things sorted out, but by ignoring that you you lay in the root of so many other problems which then everybody's life is absorbed trying to solve, which shouldn't even occur in the first place, there's no reason for them to occur, and I'm not saying that this is a path to utopia, there's always going to be friction,
• 1:26:08
  but when there's friction between people from the same race you understand what caused it. When you've got different races it's very very difficult and it creates a domino effect that cannot be resolved understandably because nature didn't want it in the first place. That's right. And they bring in with all this immigration and this diversity and multiculturalism
• 1:26:25
  Unknown: and then they just sit there because they know where all the hot buttons are and they just press them.
• 1:26:31
  Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. And they get you hating each other and fighting, and they sit back and sell you stuff and get fat while you kill each other. That's what's going on.
• 1:26:43
  Unknown: You remember George Lincoln Rockwell? Yes. American Yes. Heard him brought up on it.
• 1:26:48
  Yeah, a guy could talk and he wasn't was really really bright. There's a fantastic speech he makes about Malcolm X,
• 1:26:55
  very much along these lines, he's talking about that guy's integrity,
• 1:26:58
  what did they do? They bumped him off. See?
• 1:27:01
  Anybody from any group that starts to go back to the truth, they bump him off.
• 1:27:06
  Is what this is because they want to sort of amalgamize everybody to destroy us all, we're all gonna get destroyed. Let
• 1:27:13
  Unknown: me throw a name out there, why hadn't they knocked off Farrakhan,
• 1:27:16
  Robert?
• 1:27:21
  Unknown: That's a good question. Yeah. I lost him talking. He may be
• 1:27:25
  he may be compromised some way. Maybe.
• 1:27:29
  Unknown: I'll tell you, he spits out an awful lot of venomous truth for somebody that's compromised.
• 1:27:35
  Unknown: He does. He does.
• 1:27:37
  Yeah. He does.
• 1:27:40
  Do you think he That's good question. Why is he still alive?
• 1:27:44
  Unknown: I mean, really. Because
• 1:27:46
  he's the guy that years ago, you know, or his early days, one of the things he was doing before he got into all this stuff and the direction he's on now was he had just about wiped out the drug use and the crime in Washington DC in those boroughs.
• 1:28:01
  Did you know that?
• 1:28:04
  He was. What was his role? No, I know. He he was going he was doing then. He was going around to the slums in the black parts of Washington DC
• 1:28:12
  and straightening them up and getting kids off drugs and getting them programs and to work on and straightening that up. Boy, they yanked his funding and put a stop to that in a heartbeat.
• 1:28:23
  Unknown: That was his early days. I didn't know that. Yeah. I didn't know that. I know the Black Panthers were doing that out in California,
• 1:28:30
  and they got dealt with real quick. Yeah. They were definitely, compromised.
• 1:28:37
  Unknown: And they were all infiltrated in the FBI and all the Patty Hearst stuff back when I was in college and all that All
• 1:28:44
  these people have had their fingers in all this. Yeah. From from the beginning.
• 1:28:49
  Yeah. And where does it go back? Well, it goes back even pre 1933
• 1:28:54
  because they had already set up the N double A CP and put Jewish people at the head of it and and a Jew has always been the head of the N double A CP. Do you know that, Robert?
• 1:29:06
  Unknown: I know they didn't get their first black director till Ben Hooks, which was about 1974,
• 1:29:12
  Unknown: seventy five ish. Yep. So yeah. And and and even though Ben Hooks was there, they were still being had his strings pulled from the back, okay? So, but all of this changed on 03/09/1933
• 1:29:24
  when this system of government was put in place. That's why it's so important what we cover here. We we splinter off. We talk about Europe. We talk history. We talk about spirituality and all these other things because you can't sit here and hammer on this all day every day but this is the nut is that they pulled this off and they put the whole country in a condition of perpet uity in slavery.
• 1:29:52
  In perpetuity
• 1:29:59
  but we can break the chain and that's why this is important. These discussions and what we do here and I'm going tell you it's the focus of my life is trying to get this message out to the masses.
• 1:30:16
  And we're gonna get our shot at some point, I'm telling you, we've got the answers that people I'm listening to a John B. Wells interview
• 1:30:24
  last night and this morning, excellent, excellent interview with a guy that was a tenured professor at the University of California system out there and he was at Davis, I think and going on going
• 1:30:37
  in and he taught basically he was a sex, drugs, and rock and roll teacher. He taught contemporary culture and music and some other stuff but he's a oriental guy and man, is this guy's head screwed on level and he goes, they're going in. In fact, I sent the both
• 1:30:53
  of the links I got from John Casera
• 1:30:55
  out to our buddy and good listener and I'm sure he's listening today. So, Jimmy, if you hadn't checked your Email yet this morning, I sent you both of these videos. Jimmy is an old time listener, Paul,
• 1:31:08
  who's out in California now and he makes custom makes instruments, handmade instruments and ships them all over the world. Evidently, extremely
• 1:31:18
  accomplished at what he does and
• 1:31:21
  he bought 50 copies of my book a couple years ago and sent a book out with every instrument he sent out that year,
• 1:31:29
  okay? Well, I sent this to Jimmy this morning because he goes into a lot, this doctor on how they're screwing up with the with the laws and taking away the musician's
• 1:31:40
  instruments
• 1:31:41
  because a lot of these guitars are made with these rare woods
• 1:31:45
  and now they can't they musicians can't even travel with their instruments
• 1:31:50
  because they go into another country and they break these damn trade laws
• 1:31:55
  and how they're changing the whole music form and how the the tone thing was shifted and how we're moving into all this new electronic music that'll that that is more into this futuristic
• 1:32:06
  psych, you know,
• 1:32:09
  social
• 1:32:10
  communist world. It's a fascinating
• 1:32:12
  interview, okay? And I haven't even finished it all yet, alright?
• 1:32:17
  But
• 1:32:18
  but this is the extent and the extreme and the involvement that they've got. He said, I didn't know you can't buy a Fender guitar anymore. You couldn't go back unless you get an instrument custom made. You couldn't go back and replicate
• 1:32:32
  Jimmy Hendrix and those songs from forty, fifty years ago because the instruments don't exist to play em.
• 1:32:42
  Unknown: Yep.
• 1:32:44
  It's whatever whatever's going on, they'll interfere with it.
• 1:32:48
  They just can't leave it be.
• 1:32:50
  Unknown: Well, see, I was in the music industry professionally
• 1:32:53
  as this change was taking place. I had no idea what was happening, but I know I knew some of the overall things and how they were and
• 1:33:02
  putting everything into vertical
• 1:33:05
  vertical systems where they owned all of it, you know, and the distribution and and the whole nine yards and that's one of the reasons I got out of the music industry after almost ten years. I just felt damn dirty.
• 1:33:20
  I got the the whole rap thing was coming in and Well, it's not. Considered to be rap to be music. It's rhythm. It's not music.
• 1:33:30
  Unknown: Well, that you know, don't know if you've seen that article regarding rap,
• 1:33:34
  it's from a
• 1:33:35
  music executive at the time,
• 1:33:38
  talks about a meeting that he was sent to where there were CIA guys there. Have you come across this? No. I reckon this is likely to be true. Well, okay, so they're invited into a business opportunity and they signed this very heavy NDA,
• 1:33:52
  and this guy
• 1:33:54
  signed it but he's revealed
• 1:33:56
  the information several years later. So this would have been a meeting I think in the early nineties something like that, Mhmm.
• 1:34:01
  And they're talking about rap music. Mhmm. And they're talking about the prison industry.
• 1:34:06
  They're talking about the prison industry. And what they said was that they they wanna start producing more and more of this violently,
• 1:34:11
  lyrically oriented rap music
• 1:34:13
  to
• 1:34:14
  create an increase in actual crime,
• 1:34:17
  which will therefore lead to an increase in inmates in prisons of which they were the shareholders and therefore they would earn lots of money out I of kid you not. Nope. I mean it's true, you look at it you go,
• 1:34:28
  know, yeah and if you look at the way that
• 1:34:32
  I don't know, I have no idea why anybody would even want to listen to rap music because it's not really music, is it? No. It's a sort of degenerate weird grunting
• 1:34:41
  and you know, I see nothing in it. I even I was on a phone call actually about a year ago, some white guy said I'm a rapper and I I had to stop myself just insulting him straight off. I just insult him.
• 1:34:52
  I did.
• 1:34:53
  It was like what I mean, I'm just gonna how stupid do you wanna be, really? I mean, it's not even a thing. It's just sort of an idiot pursuit as far as I'm concerned. Well I know that people gonna know it's the greatest thing ever. I'm I'm just really not interested. I'm very opinionated about music because it really winds me up. But you know, what is it? Was it
• 1:35:09
  who's the old Greek guy? Was it Plato that wrote about music?
• 1:35:12
  The music of the spheres,
• 1:35:14
  about how powerful and dangerous it is? It really is. It is. It's an immensely strong thing is music, and the problem that we've got is that the
• 1:35:22
  fount of music that came out of the people naturally
• 1:35:25
  before an industry arose,
• 1:35:28
  that's still there but you barely get to know of it and we are now overwhelmed by machine, the music making machine which for the last twenty years has been producing
• 1:35:38
  audio puke,
• 1:35:40
  I mean nearly all of it,
• 1:35:42
  all these bimbos with
• 1:35:44
  their breasts everywhere, basically it's just a sort of form of choreographed audio porn isn't it? And you just look at this you just go what are you doing? Why do you just go home and bake a cake and do something useful with your life? Because he's absolutely loads of little girls all screaming there because they all think they're gonna turn into Captain Marvel or Wonder Woman or something, Boy, oh, boy. Are they a bunch of sad losers? This this
• 1:36:05
  Unknown: doctor, he's talking about getting back to the old ways and the old ways of thinking and getting away from this stuff is very interesting. I've and he he said, you know, the best thing you can do to get your mindset in that way where it really is a positive reinforcement on you and he mentioned one thing right off the bat and then he mentioned some other ones but the first thing he said was knitting.
• 1:36:27
  Knitting. Knitting. Knitting,
• 1:36:29
  going back to reading books,
• 1:36:31
  going back to listening to old music, maybe even preferably, may I add, you like classical music, go back to the classics,
• 1:36:39
  where you really hear beautiful
• 1:36:40
  creativity,
• 1:36:42
  and doing simple things like that and basically coming at come out of her, my people come out of her, get back to the simple stuff, it builds character, it builds your mind's ability to think correctly.
• 1:36:55
  Unknown: Yeah, it does. It does. Reading is is phenomenal and
• 1:37:00
  talking like this is also you see that's why I'm stuck with the radio really as a phenomenal
• 1:37:06
  tool for us. I think it's I think it's amazing. Anything that's audio,
• 1:37:10
  I don't really wanna you know, I don't know what it's like with you with Skype. I get a lot of people say, have you got have you got a webcam? I go, no. They go, why not? I go, because I don't want you to see how hideous I am or how handsome I am depending on on who I'm talking to, sometimes I'll tell them I'm so ridiculously handsome that they'd feel ashamed of their own hideous looks if they saw how beautiful I was right? So but I mean why do you want video calls? People are there rummaging around with their hands and their trousers and everything and all this, I don't want to look at you,
• 1:37:38
  why would I want to look at you? I mean the telephone is brilliant because it it gets all that
• 1:37:44
  interference out of the way, the visual stuff is interference
• 1:37:48
  at the level of communication, often you just don't need it, Once You really don't need it. Let me bring out the point. There's never been ever a successful liberal radio network.
• 1:37:59
  Unknown: They never get off the ground. Why? Because you can't BS people over the radio.
• 1:38:05
  You can BS them on videos.
• 1:38:07
  You can't BS them on the radio. Radio is the theater of the mind,
• 1:38:11
  and it is a unique industry because of that, and it's incredibly powerful because of that, because everyone perceives it in their own individual sphere between their ears.
• 1:38:23
  Unknown: That's right. That's right. I mean, that's why just going back to shameless plugging department, but that's why the audiobook thing has really taken a real hold in my head more I'm looking at it. It's a different vehicle, you know, so you have a telephone conversation, then you have a conference call, then you have a broadcasted conference call as a radio show like this. Then you have people calling in and you expand it. Then you have an audiobook, which is yeah. It's the same sort of technology, but it's a different proposition.
• 1:38:48
  It's like a poem is not war and peace. Poems are short. They cover things in a different way. We're still using words.
• 1:38:55
  So we've got these different structures, these different forms of what we use to get things across, and it's really
• 1:39:01
  exciting. And I love the technology
• 1:39:03
  because I think it's the same as anything else. It's not so much
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  about what the technology is, it's your intention in using it and how you went about doing it. I mean I
• 1:39:12
  remember growing up of course, my my mom used to knit a lot, I've got I had a lot of jumpers knitted for me and there's something ridiculously
• 1:39:20
  relaxing about that tap tap tapping of the knitting needles and everything, it was great. I've got to tell you my
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  only knitting story, right this is an important story.
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  My father
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  was once it was his birthday once, and I would have been about
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  five years of age, so I'm a little lad,
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  and
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  I had an auntie who was a world champion knitter, she knitted twice as fast as my mother, my mum was good but she used to go oh you're auntie so and so, she said she's unbelievable, and she was kind of slightly more nervous and highly strung and used to knit at this just like a machine, it was just amazing while she's talking to you and you know sticking her toes in some bath of warm salty water or whatever. Anyway she she knits this jumper for my dad with this pattern and it's great. It's in
• 1:40:08
  British racing green, which is that very sort of obvious green of the nineteen sixties, and it's got this lovely white zigzag pattern running horizontally around the chest.
• 1:40:18
  The thing was that the pattern was supposed to have, I don't know, 20 balls of wool, maybe that's too many, 15 balls of wool,
• 1:40:25
  but it turned out when she actually backtracked that she put 30 balls of wool into this jumper. No, no, so anyway, starts. I mean, dad takes it out of the wrap. I remember this on this day,
• 1:40:35
  and he puts it on at 04:00 in the afternoon when everybody's hanging around our house. And they they carry on, and he goes on in the evening. This jumper is getting longer and longer and longer, and by about 08:00, seriously it was down to his knees and past his knees and he still kept on wary the sleeves have come down it was just this enormous jumper and she's going oh I don't know what I've done she just got distracted she put piles of wool to this jumper
• 1:41:01
  She said, oh, I'll I'll redo that for you. So she takes the jumper away. Seriously, they've got these photographs. I think it was summer. We got these photographs of my dad just sort of killing himself laughing in this jumper where he just looks like a little kid in it. And about two weeks later, she comes back, and she's got the jumper for him which she gives him right, but out of the remnant she'd knitted one for me which was really so then there's a photograph of the old proud stood next to my dad in exactly the same jumper,
• 1:41:27
  so you know that was that was that was my great knitting story in my life, that's how knitting personally affected me forever. Well I have I have to ask the obvious question was your auntie very well grounded?
• 1:41:42
  Well she well you know she could sit still for a long time and knit for English, just unbelievable so yeah it's incredible stuff. It's the fact that she unpicked it, she unpicked the entire jumper and then re knit two more in two weeks, I'm going what's that all about? She's like
• 1:41:58
  why would she do that? Know?
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  Yeah she was into doing jigsaw puzzles as well, know that kind of mind that wants to do all that fiddly stuff? Yes. You just go, woah. I'm a bloke. I need to go off and sort of swing a bit of wood at something. I can't be watching this all day. It's doing me editing.
• 1:42:13
  Unknown: So yeah. You know, it's interesting. When the book was first out, my book, I've I had several people that asked me about doing an audio book.
• 1:42:21
  And, of course, with this role, stuff I could probably narrate my own book. And I just never have sat down and and and done it. And maybe it's a project I ought to think about.
• 1:42:34
  Unknown: Yeah. Maybe maybe it is. I think maybe as a vehicle as well as
• 1:42:39
  possibly as a fundraiser, it could turn out to be quite good. We'll see everybody's gonna get a little bit sort of carried away with all these things. I don't I don't quite know. I mean interestingly when I've been doing a lot of research talking to guys that actually listen to audiobooks and stuff like that and why they do it, and the main guys that tend to listen to them,
• 1:42:55
  because I only talked to blokes and I don't talk to women you see I'm too busy for that, no seriously but I haven't got around to doing it recently but they're on long journeys basically when you're driving
• 1:43:04
  an audiobook you know can can just destroy that sense of tedium
• 1:43:09
  of a long journey. So
• 1:43:12
  it's a
• 1:43:13
  bit like when Brent called me he was talking about all these truck drivers and he was saying that his view, I'm not saying this is a market research report from Brent, but he was making this observation that
• 1:43:23
  when these guys start driving they might start listening to books and of course to start off with maybe they listen to crime thrillers and detective stuff, things like this, but after X number of months of that you're
• 1:43:34
  all programmed on stuff and then the more serious stuff, and for getting history across and particularly the field that we're involved with,
• 1:43:42
  the revealing of hidden reports, hidden history as it were,
• 1:43:47
  it could be perfect,
• 1:43:48
  really it could be excellent, it's a different animal to radio, radio is this conversational freewheeling
• 1:43:54
  Unknown: which is great, but its own strengths there, but this is something different, okay? You should go ahead and have a go. Well, can tell you my mom, you know, is legally blind and she for a number of years now has been doing a lot of audiobook listening. It's her entertainment,
• 1:44:10
  okay?
• 1:44:11
  And Yeah. She, they have a program there through the through the library, the public library.
• 1:44:17
  You go in and sign up for it and you can order books online. I guess my brother does a lot of that for her And the post office delivers them in a little blue container and it's got the tapes that fit in the special machine.
• 1:44:31
  And when they're finished, they just put it back and put it out in the mailbox and they take it back to the library.
• 1:44:38
  She Pardon does listen to a lot of
• 1:44:42
  Unknown: me?
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  Unknown: I was just thinking that I'll have to look at how to get Hellstrom onto The US library circuit so that they you know I've often I worked at the I think I told you I once worked over here at the Association of Librarians,
• 1:44:54
  one of the most dynamic and exciting workspaces
• 1:44:57
  I've ever been in. Right,
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  I'm gonna go out and shout, I must say something, not in here, we are the Association of Librarians, the quietest people in the world.
• 1:45:10
  Know, so
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  it
• 1:45:13
  was a bit like that, but
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  I've you find out that from a book marketing point of view, if can get your books into the library circuit, you're talking thousands of copies. Oh, We'll have a copy of that. Yeah. Well, there's so We'll copy that. We'll have a copy of that. They do have that system over there, and I'm sure y'all can explore it, and hopefully you'll be able to accomplish that.
• 1:45:31
  We stored your book, but unfortunately, most of the people who got it are very, very depressed.
• 1:45:36
  I'm
• 1:45:38
  sorry about that. Yeah. A bit of truth can sometimes do that. Never mind. They'll they'll toughen up. You know, the old cliche see how it goes. The old cliche is, and I found it to be totally true, especially the last thirty years, the truth is a heavy burden.
• 1:45:55
  Unknown: It is. Lonely warrior too.
• 1:45:57
  Unknown: It is.
• 1:45:59
  Unknown: I wish I could access that Minken quote that is in my book that I like so much when he talks about the the perilous of duty and honor and and stuff, perilous
• 1:46:11
  ground of a few men in in democracies
• 1:46:14
  usually consider them to be outlaws.
• 1:46:20
  Unknown: Right. Yeah. I like I like like the sound of it even though I don't know exactly all the details. Oh, I I should get you that. Mencken was probably one of the finest American writers that's ever come along.
• 1:46:32
  Oh, I've got books of his on yeah. It was. I've books of his on my shelf here. I'm looking at two right here. Oh, the guy had a had a way with words.
• 1:46:40
  Unknown: I saw I read a article because I read a bit about him when I stumbled onto him a number of years ago. And back when he was writing for the Baltimore Sun,
• 1:46:48
  and this guy, he'd go off and write alone,
• 1:46:52
  okay? And somebody that he knew
• 1:46:55
  was was sneaking around the corner and watching him and they said he'd type on his typewriter
• 1:47:01
  and then he just start laughing and slapping knee and go back to typing again.
• 1:47:06
  So, he got a lot of charge out of his own stuff.
• 1:47:11
  Yeah. Always thought. Oh, I know. It's good stuff. Yes, fantastic. Are you kidding me? Man, some of his quotes just cut them to the bone.
• 1:47:21
  Unknown: So we got about don't Well, he was a wasn't he of was he of Germanic descent? He was of Germanic descent, wasn't he, maybe? I would imagine. I would imagine that's Germanic He was. Name.
• 1:47:32
  Unknown: There was one. I think that Do
• 1:47:34
  do what, Robert?
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  Unknown: HL Minken? HL Minken. Yeah. There's one Oh. Yeah. Yeah. I thought you said No. Lincoln.
• 1:47:44
  Unknown: No. Lincoln.
• 1:47:46
  And you can get there's one. Yeah. There's one audio interview where some guy before he died got him on a audio interview. It's on YouTube, I think.
• 1:47:56
  What a tremendous writer that guy was. Tremendous insight.
• 1:48:01
  Unknown: I
• 1:48:04
  Unknown: definitely think, you know, wired like we are if you were.
• 1:48:10
  So words of wisdom from mister HL Mencken. If any in the audience are not familiar with him, go stick him in a search engine. You'll be joy overjoyed to read some of his commentary.
• 1:48:21
  We got about, I don't know, ten minutes. Okay.
• 1:48:24
  Unknown: Since you since you brought him up. Alright.
• 1:48:27
  Shallow shallow men believe in luck.
• 1:48:30
  Strong men believe in cause and effect.
• 1:48:34
  Believe.
• 1:48:35
  Waldo Emerson. Oh oh, no. Either this is Emerson or Macon. I think it's Macon. I hate all sports as rapidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense.
• 1:48:47
  Unknown: Yeah. He had a great way with words, man. He sure did.
• 1:48:52
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:48:54
  Unknown: How about this one? Yeah. I want to have a go now. Can I have a go? How about this one? Yeah. Go ahead. Go
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  Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage.
• 1:49:04
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:49:05
  Unknown: Very good. Yeah. They're all sweet. Yeah. There's nothing he rather was bad. No, he's a good one.
• 1:49:11
  Unknown: Yeah. I don't know. We got about 10 left. Anything y'all want to cover? If anybody wants to call in, if you we you covered something that tickled your fancy or something, you can do that and comment here in the last ten minutes or so. Otherwise, I I was really excited about Paul's project because I'm familiar with the book and the and the movie that was made off of it. It was one of the first ones of these
• 1:49:33
  real truthful from the other side point of view type pub productions
• 1:49:38
  and it's just really cool that you got to do the audio for it, Paul.
• 1:49:44
  Unknown: Well, is. It's a bit of an honor really in a way, and it's the first time I've done one, so you know, and I what's the word seminal?
• 1:49:52
  It is a seminal book,
• 1:49:54
  not many books sort of get that accolade but I think in this case it's true.
• 1:49:58
  It's a pivotal book, it's massively important in many ways because of the
• 1:50:03
  robust and direct nature of the way that Tom's written it and put it, he's done an absolutely he did an amazing job with it and it's completely heartfelt,
• 1:50:10
  and I spoke to him really about how he put it together and maybe I've mentioned it here before,
• 1:50:14
  you know, these are things that I'm not fully aware of with regards to aspects of American life, but he was telling me,
• 1:50:20
  and I probably mentioned this to you Roger, that there are German clubs or were German clubs or still are German clubs across America
• 1:50:27
  for German Americans and that's where he began to get this information. He went in there and was talking to people who obviously would have been very young children at the time that all these terrible things happened,
• 1:50:38
  and he got their accounts firsthand
• 1:50:41
  what was actually going on. People you know just normal people whose lives were utterly destroyed and had to witness the most horrific
• 1:50:48
  foul, disgusting behavior. Well. And so and the suffering that went on which is just beyond the pale really, must have it. When I was doing Silver Lawn,
• 1:50:57
  Unknown: I had a customer from up in Milwaukee
• 1:51:00
  and we got a magazine cover, media bypass, and a story in there and she saw the magazine
• 1:51:06
  and contacted me and they were German and they had immigrated to Milwaukee after World War two and her husband was in the Third Reich on the Eastern Front,
• 1:51:16
  okay?
• 1:51:17
  And her name was Trudy
• 1:51:19
  Adler. Their last name was Adler which in many cases can be a Jewish name but in their case, it wasn't. It was German
• 1:51:27
  and so because their name was Adler, she said, man, well, I'm on the all these Jewish lists.
• 1:51:33
  Always get these organizations
• 1:51:35
  mailings all the time but
• 1:51:38
  she had some very interesting stuff. I've still got, I took her Emails. This was
• 1:51:44
  twenty years ago, approximately.
• 1:51:46
  I've still got her Emails. I printed them out on a printer and I've got em in my Silver Lawn folder and I saved them. I should get em out and read em but
• 1:51:55
  a couple of the things she said, she called them cuckoo birds.
• 1:51:59
  Are you familiar with the cuckoo bird, Paul?
• 1:52:03
  Robert, are you? I am.
• 1:52:05
  Unknown: I am. Refresh
• 1:52:06
  Unknown: me. Well, a cuckoo bird is a bird in Europe that's got this real long beak and it's a real big gawky looking bird, okay? And what the cuckoo bird does is it finds another bird that has made a nest and laid eggs in it, and it goes and lays its eggs in the other ones. And so the other bird incubates the baby. It outgrows all the other ones and them out of the nest and takes over.
• 1:52:34
  And
• 1:52:35
  that's what she called them, the coup. Yeah, it's nasty. Okay?
• 1:52:38
  And but she told me, I remember we had several phone conversations, long ones
• 1:52:43
  because I was just starting to be exposed. You know, I've been had some exposure but this is one of the first people I had met that had experienced it that I could talk to, you know, and I, she said, we love that off.
• 1:52:55
  Everybody adored that off,
• 1:52:58
  okay?
• 1:52:58
  And what had happened was her husband had been on the Eastern Front and on that Eastern Front up there when they were trying to get Saint Petersburg and all that, he had experienced incredible
• 1:53:09
  frostbite
• 1:53:10
  and all those years in The States, he'd been to doctor after doctor after doctor and they all basically threw their hands up, said there's nothing we can do about it and she bought that silver lawn, a 66 inch wrap,
• 1:53:23
  and wrapped it around his leg and everything was gone in seven days.
• 1:53:32
  Wow. Wow. Wow.
• 1:53:34
  Was gone. All of his symptoms, all of his problems,
• 1:53:38
  everything gone in seven days after dealing with it for over forty years.
• 1:53:45
  Unknown: I gotta get a couple of those wraps then. When you've talked about that many times before. Well, you can do cheap. You can do cheap Silverline,
• 1:53:52
  Unknown: okay? You can do the poor man's silver lawn with
• 1:53:57
  the the silver end solution.
• 1:54:00
  Key what do they call it? Silver.
• 1:54:02
  Colloidal
• 1:54:03
  silver.
• 1:54:04
  You can do it with colloidal silver and the other half is aluminum foil. The aluminum foil provides
• 1:54:11
  the conductivity
• 1:54:12
  and the colloidal silver provides the antibacterial
• 1:54:15
  microbial.
• 1:54:19
  Unknown: Okay.
• 1:54:20
  Unknown: But there's companies where you can buy those those wraps as well. Well, there are. I would suggest you buy. If I can ever get a hold of Flick, I'll find that printer in South Carolina. The people that are plating that stuff where he's buying it because I know it's a reputable place and a good price and put that out for the audience.
• 1:54:37
  It's something everybody ought to have in their in their
• 1:54:41
  little cabinet. I promise you, I never travel without it. Never. Yeah.
• 1:54:45
  Yeah. Yeah. Still was good stuff. Oh. In in any form. But anyway, that that connection with Trudy and her husband and that experience and those conversations
• 1:54:54
  and that actual
• 1:54:56
  personal testimony from somebody that was there and experienced those things, you know? Boy, did she hate the cuckoos, man. I'm not kidding you. She just detested the cuckoos.
• 1:55:09
  Unknown: She had a reason to.
• 1:55:11
  Unknown: She yep. Sure did. Appropriate response.
• 1:55:14
  Unknown: Can I give you some Mencken quotes? I've come across a couple more. I've got to read these. Here
• 1:55:20
  you go.
• 1:55:21
  How about this? The the penalty you like this and there's a court based one. It says the the penalty for laughing in a courtroom is six months in jail.
• 1:55:29
  If it were not for this penalty the jury would never hear the evidence.
• 1:55:35
  How
• 1:55:37
  about
• 1:55:38
  this one, this is another cracker, bachelors know more about women than married men, if they didn't they'd be married too.
• 1:55:46
  And
• 1:55:49
  this is a sweet one about church,
• 1:55:51
  he says this,
• 1:55:53
  a church is a place in which gentlemen who have never been to heaven brag about it to persons who will never get there.
• 1:56:02
  Boy boy oh boy, he's a rich vein. See and you know what he's
• 1:56:08
  Unknown: you know what he's playing in every one of these if you'll notice he's playing dialectics.
• 1:56:14
  Dialectics are funny. Yeah. All comedians use them, man. These are some of the things that I've noticed as I've come into this awareness. All comedian stuff's all based on dialectics almost. They're always throwing you an opposite. See? And that's the that's the gag line.
• 1:56:30
  Unknown: Ninety days same as cash.
• 1:56:34
  Unknown: There's a gag line for you. You got another one there, Paul? We're about to. That is. Whistler here in a minute.
• 1:56:40
  Well, I gotta look at that just as I Oh, yeah. There's there's
• 1:56:45
  Unknown: every every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. This is true. I like that one. A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant and the crazy crazier.
• 1:56:58
  Unknown: Boy, that it just Well, he'd never seen NBC News, had he?
• 1:57:03
  So, Paul, look, thanks again for a good a good Wednesday, and and we'll give me that link, and I'll put it in the show description for the prologue and
• 1:57:13
  people can go listen to your dulcimer tones
• 1:57:17
  Unknown: over over talk that information to em. Yeah, they can get the freebie and the full book will be soon. Yeah. I'll send that. Hellstormaudiobook.com.
• 1:57:25
  Unknown: There you go. I plugged it again but why? There you go. There you go. You, buddy. We'll see you next Wednesday. You have a good week and we'll see what goes on with Brexit. Yeah, good stuff. Between now and next week.
• 1:57:36
  Fantastic. Alright. Robert, thanks for joining us. Terrence and Bob, appreciate it. Everybody's listening out there. Love each and everyone of you and I'm glad you're there and I'll see you tomorrow and maybe Chris will join us. He's, we didn't hear from Chris today. That might mean something's up. We'll find out tomorrow, okay? See you, Robert. See you, Paul.
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  Unknown: Swallow
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  you
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  Unknown: Rams next.
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  Unknown: Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.