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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading
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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast, the Just around the Corner to
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Speaker 1: the Light of Day. Addition, as Joe Burrow's NFL regular
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Speaker 1: season debut is just around the corner, it's roughly two
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Speaker 1: weeks away. Coming up a comprehensive look and listen at
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Speaker 1: what Bengals players and coaches have to say about the
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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. Then Dave Lappham joins me for nearly forty
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Speaker 1: minutes to discuss a wide variety of topics, including the
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Speaker 1: offensive line, the rookie linebackers, and whether Aj Green should
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Speaker 1: be covered in bubble wrap and kept on the sideline
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Speaker 1: until the season begins on September thirteenth. The Bengals Booth
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Speaker 1: Under normal circumstances, during training camp, the locker room would
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Speaker 1: be open for about an hour every day, giving reporters
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to interview the players. That's not the case
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Speaker 1: this year due to the coronavirus, except for the one
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Speaker 1: on one interviews that I've been doing for this podcast.
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Speaker 1: Nearly every player interview who has been a zoom call
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Speaker 1: with all of the local media. At some point in
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Speaker 1: those zoom interviews, the subject will be asked about Joe Burrow,
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Speaker 1: and I thought it would be illuminating to pick out
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Speaker 1: some of the most interesting responses. We start with von Bell,
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Speaker 1: who has known Joe Burrow since twenty fifteen, when the
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Speaker 1: safety was a junior at Ohio State and the quarterback
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Speaker 1: was an incoming freshman that year. Burrow would occasionally practice
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Speaker 1: against the starting defense with no protective jersey, and Bell says,
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Speaker 1: he's come a long way since. I think you weren't
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Speaker 1: even sliding back there, you like, he's now he was
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Speaker 1: trying to do the truck stick, but now you know,
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Speaker 1: he's progressing the field way better. He knows what the
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Speaker 1: defense had given him, he knows what he can take.
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Speaker 1: He knows when to take the shot, he knows when
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Speaker 1: not to. Sam Hubbard was one year ahead of Burrow
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Speaker 1: at OSU, and the two became close friends as Buckeyes.
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Speaker 1: Hubbard says that winning a national championship and the Heisman
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Speaker 1: Trophy haven't gone on to Burrow's head. I think that's
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Speaker 1: one of the most impressive things about him is he
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Speaker 1: hasn't changed at all. He's got the same mentality as
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Speaker 1: he was a third string, you know, backup at Ohio
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Speaker 1: State as a freshman, still fighting every day to you know,
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Speaker 1: get on the field and make his name known. And
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Speaker 1: he's takes that mentality and you know, the level headedness
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Speaker 1: of where he's been to you know, to where he's
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Speaker 1: at now. It became obvious toward the end of last
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Speaker 1: season that the LSU quarterback was almost certainly going to
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Speaker 1: be selected number one overall in this year's draft. That
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Speaker 1: meant Bengals wide receivers like John Ross were able to
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Speaker 1: watch burrows record setting performances in the College Football Playoff
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Speaker 1: knowing he was likely to be their next quarterback. That
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Speaker 1: was definitely the biggest story. Every time you're watching the games,
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Speaker 1: it's like, Joe Burrow has three hundred yards, twelve completions
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Speaker 1: that have time, you know, four or five touchdowns and
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Speaker 1: these are playoff games, you know, and it's like that's crazy,
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Speaker 1: you know. And just getting to work out with him
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Speaker 1: in California before he was dragging and to see him now,
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Speaker 1: it's like, it's good to see how how well he
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Speaker 1: works the offense and how good he is where there's
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Speaker 1: twenty fourth birthday coming up in December. Burrow is actually
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Speaker 1: older than nineteen players on the Bengals roster, including Jesse
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Speaker 1: Bates and Auden Tate. Here are the two of them
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Speaker 1: on their new QB. You can just feel his presence
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Speaker 1: in the room. You got that swagger about itself. You know,
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Speaker 1: he's young kids still. You know, he got a lot
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Speaker 1: of proof. He has a lot to prove. You know.
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Speaker 1: I was talking to my mom the other day and
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Speaker 1: he's talking. She was talking about an interview he did
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Speaker 1: or something like that about not being nervous. Have you
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Speaker 1: guys ever seen him nervous? And I thought that was
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Speaker 1: very funny, awesome that I have that type of He
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Speaker 1: has that type of confidence in itself. So yeah, I
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Speaker 1: feel really good about Joe. He's been moving me around
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Speaker 1: in the middle of field a little bit more than
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Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks that have been experienced in this league.
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Speaker 1: So um, you guys can expect a lot of good
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Speaker 1: things coming out of Joe this year. Just like his
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Speaker 1: natural swagger, you know, how you walk around and stuff
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Speaker 1: like that, How he approached the huddle, how he comes
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Speaker 1: into the huddle. You know, you don't come in like
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Speaker 1: a rookie. You come in almost like a vet. Like
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Speaker 1: he's been number four, so you know, just that calmness
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Speaker 1: that he has, you know, it's just everybody can feel it,
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Speaker 1: so we'll make everybody else. The scouting report on Burrow
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Speaker 1: coming out of LSU is that he threw the ball
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Speaker 1: with great timing and accuracy, but didn't necessarily have a
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Speaker 1: rocket for a throwing arm. Here's the player drafted in
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Speaker 1: the second round to be one of his primary targets
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Speaker 1: in the years to come. Tee Higgins. The first time
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Speaker 1: he threw the ball, he threw a bullet in. You know,
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Speaker 1: it shocked me, but I called it. He throws he
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Speaker 1: throws great balls, always where they need to be. He
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Speaker 1: rarely throw that boss rarely, but it does happen. In
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Speaker 1: one of the Bengals first practices in pads, Burrow was
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Speaker 1: intercepted by veteran linebacker Josh Bines. Joe immediately responded by
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Speaker 1: completing deep balls to Tyler Boyd, Mike Thomas, and c
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Speaker 1: ju Zama. Then he approached Binds and picked his brain
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Speaker 1: about the interception. The thirty one year old linebacker hadn't
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Speaker 1: seen that before, and not a rookie quarterback. I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't think I've had a rookie quarterback came up
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Speaker 1: to me. You know, maybe I had a few veit
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Speaker 1: seria there, but definitely not to do the quarterback. But
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Speaker 1: you could tell he's hungry and wants to get better.
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Speaker 1: And that's what I like about it. And as I
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Speaker 1: think everybody's knowing that, especially offense, they're gravitating towards him
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Speaker 1: because right now he has to lead the way for
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Speaker 1: this offense. And we're looking forward to it. That's the
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Speaker 1: type of thing that earns the respect of his teammates.
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Speaker 1: According to head coach Zach Taylor, you don't do it
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Speaker 1: by walking in and open your mouth and saying a
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Speaker 1: lot of things before you actually earn it. You had
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Speaker 1: to do it through your leadership, you showing you know
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Speaker 1: exactly what to do when your numbers called. You do
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Speaker 1: it through proving your toughness, you know, which which he
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Speaker 1: hasn't quite had the opportunity to do yet with our
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Speaker 1: guys because he hasn't he hasn't got knocked on his
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Speaker 1: butt yet. Hits on Burrow are strictly off limits a
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Speaker 1: training camp, and that's the first thing that offensive coordinator
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Speaker 1: Brian Callahan mentioned when I asked what Burrow would miss
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Speaker 1: by not having any preseason games getting hit for the
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Speaker 1: first time. That's usually that's usually a big part of it. Um.
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Speaker 1: You know, all quarterbacks kind of have those little jitters.
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Speaker 1: They don't get touched very often in practice. They don't
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Speaker 1: feel a live rush, especially for a kid hasn't played
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Speaker 1: NFL football, a rookie quarterback. Generally, that first time that
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Speaker 1: rush comes live as the full speed is a little
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Speaker 1: bit different than college. Now, he was playing against great
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Speaker 1: players in the secats. It's that's as close as you're
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Speaker 1: going to ever get probably to NFL speed and tempo.
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Speaker 1: But that first that first pass rush, that first hit,
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Speaker 1: that first time they get jolted around, Uh, kind of
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Speaker 1: reminds him that it's time to play football again. So
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Speaker 1: you'd like that to happen obviously before the opener um,
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Speaker 1: but that don't. We don't get that this year. Burrow
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Speaker 1: isn't getting tackled at practice, but he does face a
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Speaker 1: pass rush. The coaches blow the whistle to stop the
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Speaker 1: play if he would have been sacked. As a result,
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Speaker 1: Joe's had plenty of opportunities to move around in a
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Speaker 1: muddy pocket and also scramble left or right before making
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Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd says that's one of Burrow's biggest strengths. Extended
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Speaker 1: plays is the biggest key of um of keeping an
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Speaker 1: office on the field. I mean, we really didn't have
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Speaker 1: too much scramble throws and scrambled touchdowns last year was
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Speaker 1: very limited. But I think I think that's that's that's
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Speaker 1: the key of winning. Like you got the Russells, you
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Speaker 1: got um Lamar. Everybody scrambles around, try to make plays
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Speaker 1: and and a lot of receivers to work and create separations.
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Speaker 1: So I mean, Joe, I believe he's a great fit
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Speaker 1: for a guy like that, not a utilize his ability
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Speaker 1: in the pocket to maneuver and get away from Toddler
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Speaker 1: so he can extend plays that we continue to move
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Speaker 1: the ball. Burrow hasn't only impressed his teammates on the
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Speaker 1: practice field. Over the past few months, the rookie has
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Speaker 1: used his large social media platform, including nearly four hundred
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Speaker 1: thousand followers on Twitter, to speak out against racial injustice
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Speaker 1: that resonated in the locker room. According to A J. Green,
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Speaker 1: oh Man, that's what you want to see. You want
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Speaker 1: to see that quarterback position step up because those are
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Speaker 1: guys that drive lead. And um, when you have guys
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Speaker 1: like that stepping up at that young of an age
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Speaker 1: and um reason, I really haven't shown anything in the
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Speaker 1: NFL yet, it speaks volume, especially to the guys in
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Speaker 1: the locker room. You want to rally behind guys like
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Speaker 1: that who's speaking up um and being a you know,
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Speaker 1: not an African American male man, being a white male.
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Speaker 1: He's speaking up for you know what We're trying to
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Speaker 1: create and when you have the guy like that, you
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Speaker 1: know you just want to rally behind him. Joe Burrow,
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Speaker 1: He's not taking a snap in an NFL game. Man.
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Speaker 1: There are sure to be ups and downs in his
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Speaker 1: rookie season, much like there were in his first year
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Speaker 1: at LSU, but he's done everything right so far. According
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Speaker 1: to current Bengal and former Auburn Tiger c j Uzama,
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Speaker 1: is an absolute piece. He's an animal out there. Um yeah, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, you see you see college, you see what's
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Speaker 1: going on. You you watch him beat your alma mater
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Speaker 1: and and do so and convincing fashion. You're like, dang,
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Speaker 1: this sucks, you know, But um, that just I mean,
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Speaker 1: he's he's he's he's that guy. Man. He's making all
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Speaker 1: the right reads. He's getting us in and out of
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Speaker 1: the right protections and making all the right checks and
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Speaker 1: certain checks that I didn't even know we could we
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Speaker 1: were allowed to check into. He's like, why not go
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Speaker 1: out there and do this or come in here and
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Speaker 1: do this or Um it's been a lot of fun, Honestly,
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Speaker 1: it's been a lot of fun to um to build
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Speaker 1: a relationship with him, build that chemistry with him, and
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Speaker 1: see how how he operates and how he wants certain
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Speaker 1: routes run on certain coverages, and um, it's he's He's
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Speaker 1: he's the real deal. I'll say that Bengals fans certainly
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Speaker 1: hope he's the real deal. They are counting on number
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Speaker 1: nine to put them on Cloud nine. Before we get
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Speaker 1: thirty on the radio at seven LW, online at seven
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Speaker 1: Bengals practice on Friday, Lap and I discussed the latest
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Speaker 1: Bengals news and answered the ask Lap questions that you
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Speaker 1: submitted on Twitter. Lap On Friday, the Bengals were scheduled
11:29
Speaker 1: to practice at two fifty in the afternoon, They moved
11:32
Speaker 1: it up to eleven o'clock in the morning to try
11:33
Speaker 1: to beat the potential of bad weather. But before that happened,
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Speaker 1: there was a team meeting in the morning. Everybody on
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Speaker 1: the roster with ownership. Mike Brown was present. The players
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Speaker 1: requested on Thursday to meet with Mike Brown. He made
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Speaker 1: that happen on Friday morning, and it sounds like it
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Speaker 1: was a highly productive meeting for what's going on in
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Speaker 1: this country. Yeah, you know, and Mike Brown has got
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Speaker 1: an enormous amount of history. I think that the players
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Speaker 1: were very responsive to. I mean, Paul his dad obviously
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Speaker 1: when he was with the Cleveland Browns, Bill Willis Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame defensive lineman, Marion Motley Hall of Fame fullback.
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Speaker 1: These guys were some of the initial black football players
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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And he had one in college.
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Speaker 1: He had one on his military team that he coached
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Speaker 1: before he got to the All American Football Conference then
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Speaker 1: eventually the National Football League. But he brought them to
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Speaker 1: the AAFC initially and then into the National Football League.
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Speaker 1: That was like the Jackie Robinson of you know, professional football.
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Speaker 1: So I think the players that didn't know that were
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Speaker 1: duly impressed by that. And Mike Brown lived it. And
12:43
Speaker 1: Mike Brown has told me stories many times over the
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Speaker 1: years about you know, as a young young child going
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Speaker 1: to Cleveland Brown's training camp and with the players that
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Speaker 1: he adored and worshiped. His heroes were these guys, and
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Speaker 1: he spent all kinds of time with them. So, you know,
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Speaker 1: Mike Brown from the time he was hid or grasshopper
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Speaker 1: and didn't see color, you know. And so I think
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Speaker 1: I think that locker rooms, and not just NFL locker rooms,
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Speaker 1: but locker rooms in general, are you know, just a
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Speaker 1: great example of what society could be like in terms
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Speaker 1: of it's a it's a meritocracy. It's not anything about color.
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Speaker 1: It's not anything about religious you know, a preference, it's
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Speaker 1: not anything about sexual preferences. It's all it is is
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Speaker 1: can you get the job done and help us achieve
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Speaker 1: the goal. So we want to achieve as a group,
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Speaker 1: as a team, all of us. It's a big melting
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Speaker 1: pot and man if if some of that could pour
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Speaker 1: out into the country and the world in general, be huge.
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Speaker 1: We've heard from several players in recent days talking about
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Speaker 1: these issues, Carlos dunlap Aj Green, Trey Hopkins. Today, it
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Speaker 1: underscored to me how smart and how caring the guys
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Speaker 1: are in this locker room. I don't know if that's
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Speaker 1: the case all over the place in the National Football League,
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Speaker 1: but the Bengals are blessed to have really epathetic, smart
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Speaker 1: and caring players. You're right, dan Um Trey Hopkins. I
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Speaker 1: was going to ask him when he was done with
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Speaker 1: his Zoom conference if he'd run for president, and the dude,
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Speaker 1: the dude as sharp, sharp as attack, and they are.
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Speaker 1: They're all educated guys. But the thing that is amazing
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Speaker 1: is um the experiences that they have. And I kind
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Speaker 1: of heard from some of them when I was playing,
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Speaker 1: particularly you know, in the National Football League. Vernon Holland
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Speaker 1: became a really good friend of mine. I was the
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Speaker 1: only white person he invited to one of his birthday parties,
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Speaker 1: and I got a little taste of what it was
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Speaker 1: like to be maybe the different color of everybody else.
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Speaker 1: But they were all very welcoming and that that was
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Speaker 1: a unique experience for him. That that was an eye opener, Um.
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Speaker 1: But to hear these guys talk about things that you
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Speaker 1: take for granted that you never even thought about having
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Speaker 1: to worry about, like with their children and telling their
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Speaker 1: children make sure that you don't do anything that can
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Speaker 1: be interpreted any other way, but the way that you're
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Speaker 1: actually thinking, which is harmless, you know, because you know
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Speaker 1: there's there's a dual standard here, unfortunately, and you have
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Speaker 1: to have those difficult conversations and then have experienced them themselves.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I heard, you know, from a lot of guys,
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Speaker 1: you know, Isaac Curtis, Kenny Riley, Vernon Holland teammates that
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Speaker 1: became pretty good friends, and some of the experiences, and
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Speaker 1: it's just that's what they're talking about now. And I
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Speaker 1: bet it is eye opening. I mean, Zach's not that
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Speaker 1: old guy, really, And I bet Zach Taylor and other
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Speaker 1: coaches and other people in the organization when they hear
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Speaker 1: some of these stories that these guys, you know, had
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Speaker 1: to had to go through with their families, with their
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Speaker 1: loved ones, with their friends, it's it's it's mind boggling.
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Speaker 1: It's really an eye opener, for sure. When George Floyd
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Speaker 1: was killed, Joe Burrow is one of the first prominent
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the National Football League to tweet something about it.
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Speaker 1: And I remember how thoughtful I was at the time,
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Speaker 1: how thoughtful, what thought it was at the time. And
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Speaker 1: one of the things that he said, very simply was
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Speaker 1: this isn't politics, it's human rights. And he tweeted again
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Speaker 1: this week on this subject and it really has resonated
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Speaker 1: inside of his own locker room. There's no doubt. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think that you know, you can have swagger, you know,
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Speaker 1: because of your football accomplishments, and you know, swagger in
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Speaker 1: a good way. Swagger, not in an obnoxious way, but
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Speaker 1: the urned confidence swagger because you got some skins on
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Speaker 1: the wall. You want a national championship, you won the
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Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy, you want undefeated and so doing, you set records,
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Speaker 1: you know, all these touchdowns and all all the things
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Speaker 1: that go along with it. Those are huge skins on
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Speaker 1: the wall from a football standpoint. But but Joe Burrow
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Speaker 1: what he did during his Heisman Trophy acceptance speech, you know,
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Speaker 1: for his community, you know, the food food banks there
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Speaker 1: and just the amount of money the response over six
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars responded, you know, based on what he did.
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Speaker 1: So you know, Joe is obviously this isn't the first
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Speaker 1: time that he stepped up and said I care about everybody.
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Speaker 1: I care about you know, those less fortunate than me
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Speaker 1: and those that are in more difficult situations than me,
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Now he becomes a leader
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Speaker 1: in his teammates eyes, not just the leader in the
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Speaker 1: huddle as a quarterback, but the leader of the organization,
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Speaker 1: in the community, in the league, in the country, in
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Speaker 1: the world. I mean, he takes on a mega leadership role.
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Speaker 1: And I think he's up to it. I think he's
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Speaker 1: up to it big time. I agree one hundred percent.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's turn to some training camp issues, and
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Speaker 1: I want to start with one of the training camp
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Speaker 1: battles that I expected to see, and that was Bobby
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Speaker 1: Hart versus Fred Johnson at right tackle. But until Bobby
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Speaker 1: briefly was nicked up and had to miss a practice,
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Speaker 1: he had been getting virtually all of the reps with
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Speaker 1: the starters at right tackle. What happened to that petition? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and big Fred was kicked inside a little bit to guard,
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Speaker 1: you know, because I you know, I think they're thinking,
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Speaker 1: you know, is Fred's showing himself to be one of
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Speaker 1: the five best. Well, if that's the case, see if
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Speaker 1: you can play guard, see if you can play tackle.
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Speaker 1: And Fred's played a little bit of everywhere too. I mean,
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Speaker 1: a lot of these guys have been, you know, required
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Speaker 1: because again Michael Jordan, the birth of the child, and
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Speaker 1: the injury, like you mentioned the calf injury to Bobby
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Speaker 1: Hart A guy's there's been a little bit of musical chairs,
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Speaker 1: but that's what you have to have. On game day.
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Speaker 1: There's going to be seven, maybe eight at the most
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Speaker 1: offensive linemen, So guys have to show the multiplicity in
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Speaker 1: their versatility of position ability, so you know it. Fred
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Speaker 1: Fred's an interesting study because Fred against Cleveland showed in
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Speaker 1: an NFL game against the NFL competition he could do it.
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Speaker 1: But one game there's not a career make and he
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Speaker 1: has to. He's like, in my mind, all the offensive
19:05
Speaker 1: lineman Dan, I watch him very inconsistent. Got to show consistency.
19:11
Speaker 1: Have to show consistency as a group. All five guys
19:15
Speaker 1: have to play as a as a group to you
19:17
Speaker 1: and not have four do it and one, three do
19:20
Speaker 1: it and two and then then the next play the
19:23
Speaker 1: two that they're good and the other one of the
19:25
Speaker 1: other ones. All everybody has to have consistency. It can't
19:31
Speaker 1: be big ups and downs. And Fred's had some really
19:35
Speaker 1: good showings and then he's had somewhere, you know, head
19:37
Speaker 1: scratcher showings, and and it's almost that way I'd say
19:41
Speaker 1: Trey Hopkins has probably been the most most consistent guy, um,
19:45
Speaker 1: you know, on a on a day by day basis,
19:47
Speaker 1: and you know it's everybody has to strive for that.
19:53
Speaker 1: And you know Bobby had I should say, Fred has
19:56
Speaker 1: to realize Bobby's played quite a few games in the NFL. Now,
20:01
Speaker 1: is he better than average NFL tackle? Some people think so,
20:07
Speaker 1: some people don't. You know, I'm enjoys having nuts mounds don't.
20:13
Speaker 1: But what Fred has to do is Fred has to
20:16
Speaker 1: win it out right and honestly right now, I don't
20:21
Speaker 1: think the competition should be over and I don't think
20:24
Speaker 1: in my mind when I when I played, I was
20:27
Speaker 1: like every day I thought, man, I got to bring it.
20:29
Speaker 1: If you don't bring it, somebody's breathing down your neck.
20:33
Speaker 1: So Bobby has to realize Fred's breathing down his neck.
20:36
Speaker 1: Fred has to try to play as well as he can,
20:39
Speaker 1: consistently as he can to capture it. And like we
20:41
Speaker 1: said earlier, I think the tiebreaker right now is it
20:45
Speaker 1: Bobby's smart. Bobby's like Trey in terms of football, you know,
20:49
Speaker 1: making calls and stuff. And that's a comforting feeling for
20:52
Speaker 1: a line coach when you get two guys out there
20:54
Speaker 1: that know every nuance of it, you know, and I
20:57
Speaker 1: don't think Fred's at that level in terms of the
21:00
Speaker 1: mental part of it. So unless he outright handles it physically,
21:04
Speaker 1: it's got to be knockout. That's that's what he's looking at,
21:08
Speaker 1: I think. So we expect the starting OH line for
21:11
Speaker 1: the Chargers game to begin the season to be Jonah
21:13
Speaker 1: Williams left tackle, Michael Jordan left guard, Trey Hopkins center,
21:17
Speaker 1: Xavier sue Philo right guard, Bobby Hart right tackle. If
21:20
Speaker 1: that's the case, and again it could change, But if
21:22
Speaker 1: that's the case, who's the best backup interior guy and
21:26
Speaker 1: who's the best backup tackle? I'd have to say that
21:31
Speaker 1: I'd probably think Fred would probably be that third tackle
21:34
Speaker 1: since he's you know, he played left tackling in Cleveland.
21:38
Speaker 1: He's battling Bobby at right tackle. Now. If he doesn't
21:41
Speaker 1: win one of those starting spots, you know, it would
21:45
Speaker 1: probably be Fred at the tackle position. Inside inside, Billy
21:50
Speaker 1: Price is the backup center. Is Billy Price the best
21:53
Speaker 1: backup guard? You know? That's that's a big question. What
21:57
Speaker 1: about Alex Redmond. If Alex Redman is cleared at the
22:01
Speaker 1: end of this week or the beginning of next week,
22:03
Speaker 1: and he shows that that elbow is totally healed and
22:06
Speaker 1: that he can go out and perform. He's a starting
22:09
Speaker 1: caliber guard in the National Football League, So you know,
22:11
Speaker 1: he starts to come into the mix. And I'm telling you,
22:15
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's ready right now, but Kim Identagy,
22:18
Speaker 1: he's he's the guy once because of the Michael Jordan,
22:24
Speaker 1: you know, the birth of the child and Bobby Hart
22:26
Speaker 1: having the calf, other lineman had to move all over
22:29
Speaker 1: and Identagy, I'm watching him play guard. I'm watching him
22:32
Speaker 1: play tackle. He's just covering people up. He's got really
22:35
Speaker 1: good feet. He's taken great sets, you know, but again consistency.
22:40
Speaker 1: One time his jam is really good, next time it's not.
22:43
Speaker 1: They're in his chest. You can't allow these defensive lineman
22:45
Speaker 1: in your chest of rabbing your shoulder pads or whatever.
22:48
Speaker 1: So you know, it's I'm not saying that he's there now,
22:51
Speaker 1: but I know he has feet, and I know he
22:53
Speaker 1: has intelligence because he's not like it's not too big
22:57
Speaker 1: for him. He's not in the huddle when they call
22:58
Speaker 1: a player looking at his centers tackle when he's playing guard,
23:01
Speaker 1: like what do I do And he's not doing that
23:04
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage when the audible or whatever.
23:06
Speaker 1: So to me, he has some potential and I don't
23:11
Speaker 1: know how quickly it can be developed, but I think
23:13
Speaker 1: he does have potential. Tremendous left round, late round. Fine.
23:17
Speaker 1: You know, he looks like a second or third round
23:20
Speaker 1: guy the way he moves. I mean, he's right now.
23:24
Speaker 1: I know it's early stages, but Keema Dentogy, Dave Lapham's
23:31
Speaker 1: guy right now at Chima Dentogy. All right, Let's turn
23:34
Speaker 1: to the starting linebackers, and most days that's been Josh
23:36
Speaker 1: Bines and Jermaine Pratt. But there's been a ton of
23:38
Speaker 1: mixing and matching going on at that position. Out of
23:41
Speaker 1: the three draft picks, Logan Wilson, A Keen, Davis Gaither
23:46
Speaker 1: and Marcus Bailey, have any stood out more than the others.
23:51
Speaker 1: They've all stood out, which is good. You know, I
23:53
Speaker 1: don't think there's been a front runner's like whoa, you know,
23:56
Speaker 1: he's like light years better than the others. But the
24:00
Speaker 1: all they're always advertising that's a good thing. Logan Wilson
24:04
Speaker 1: is and and Dan I'm going to obviously coat this
24:08
Speaker 1: with the caveat that. Haven't tackled anybody yet, you know
24:12
Speaker 1: an opponent, haven't taken an opponent to the ground, haven't
24:14
Speaker 1: played an NFL snap yet, haven't gotten that NFL game
24:18
Speaker 1: where I'm telling you the adrenaline rush you your first
24:21
Speaker 1: NFL game, It's ridiculous. It's it's ridiculous. You feel like
24:26
Speaker 1: you can lift the stadium, but you got to make
24:28
Speaker 1: sure you can find it, you know. I mean, it's
24:30
Speaker 1: like you get you just have to. You have to
24:33
Speaker 1: make sure that you're not out of your mind because
24:35
Speaker 1: your body is telling you. You know you can. You're
24:37
Speaker 1: a superhero. You can do anything, and but you have
24:41
Speaker 1: to you have to stay focused and make sure that
24:42
Speaker 1: you're doing the right things that you're supposed to be doing.
24:46
Speaker 1: And that's that's you know, when the truth will be
24:49
Speaker 1: told when they line up against the Chargers. M Are
24:53
Speaker 1: they taking the proper angles to pursuit are they Are
24:55
Speaker 1: they getting people on the ground? Are they not breaking
24:59
Speaker 1: down on assignments so they where they're supposed to be
25:01
Speaker 1: when they're supposed to be there, and doing it how
25:02
Speaker 1: they're supposed to do it, all of those things. But
25:06
Speaker 1: looking at them, watching them run, watching them take proper
25:10
Speaker 1: angles in pursuit and doing some of these things. Looks
25:13
Speaker 1: like they're going to translate, you know, it looks like
25:15
Speaker 1: they're going to translate well, and all three of them,
25:18
Speaker 1: you know. And obviously Bailey hasn't, you know, he had
25:22
Speaker 1: the injury. So but I think he might be close,
25:26
Speaker 1: but maybe not where the other two are at this point.
25:30
Speaker 1: But I know one guy that's salivating and drooling and
25:32
Speaker 1: everything that you can do is Darren Simmons. Because the
25:36
Speaker 1: last few years Dan linebacker special team snaps have been
25:41
Speaker 1: probably the fewest in the league from a position group standpoint,
25:44
Speaker 1: not anymore. If they can't run, it's hard to use
25:47
Speaker 1: them on special teams. And these guys can run. All right.
25:50
Speaker 1: Let's talk about AJ Green. He's been back on the
25:52
Speaker 1: field after missing about a week with a sore ham string.
25:54
Speaker 1: He says he wants the reps at practice, he wants
25:57
Speaker 1: to play in the scrimmage on Sunday and the following Thursday.
26:01
Speaker 1: Should they play him, I think if the player is
26:05
Speaker 1: that adamant, I think they need to listen to him.
26:09
Speaker 1: I've heard his position coaches over the years say Aj
26:12
Speaker 1: is a rep guy. AJ himself said, I'm a REP guy.
26:16
Speaker 1: You know, some people don't need dress rehearsal and they're
26:21
Speaker 1: ready for Opening night. Other guys need dress rehearsal plus
26:24
Speaker 1: to get ready for Opening night. And you have to
26:26
Speaker 1: know which you are. And AJ knows. AJ knows he's
26:30
Speaker 1: a REP guy, and I think he's gonna feel not
26:33
Speaker 1: quite there if he doesn't get some reps. So whether
26:37
Speaker 1: it be in thump, which is everything's live except taking
26:42
Speaker 1: him to the ground, and that's that's fine, because they're
26:45
Speaker 1: gonna get their hands on him, you know, reroute them,
26:47
Speaker 1: bump and run, chuck them, all that kind of stuff,
26:50
Speaker 1: and they're gonna close on him, but not take him
26:51
Speaker 1: to the ground. He's gonna get hit, he's gonna get
26:53
Speaker 1: Joss all those good things. I think he needs that.
26:56
Speaker 1: So wouldn't shock me if on Thursday night or Sunday
26:59
Speaker 1: night Sunday that he does some thump, maybe not full scrimmage,
27:03
Speaker 1: taking to the ground, and then on Thursday, if they
27:07
Speaker 1: expose him at all, it might be very little exposure
27:12
Speaker 1: on Thursday if he if he begs for it, because
27:16
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor would just help put him in moth balls
27:18
Speaker 1: and make sure he's ready for the thirteenth. You have
27:22
Speaker 1: to listen to the player though, too. And um, you know,
27:25
Speaker 1: I think I think a j when when you have
27:28
Speaker 1: a player come out and say I asked him that
27:30
Speaker 1: in a zoom conference and he said, you know, would
27:33
Speaker 1: you be No, No, I need I need reps. That's reality.
27:38
Speaker 1: He's realistic about his needs and his uh what he
27:43
Speaker 1: has to do to get ready for the opener act Accordingly,
27:46
Speaker 1: how about we tackle him into one of those bags
27:50
Speaker 1: they use for stunt men jumping off buildings, or put
27:53
Speaker 1: him in one of those big donut things, you know,
27:56
Speaker 1: let him, let him catch, let him catch it, and
27:59
Speaker 1: then just him inflated. Yeah, as soon as he catches it,
28:02
Speaker 1: it triggers something and inflates his big bubble, you know,
28:05
Speaker 1: and he's like, can't again hurt him, can't take him
28:08
Speaker 1: to the ground hard. I'm game. The Bengals primary offensive
28:12
Speaker 1: grouping last year was three wide receivers in one tight end,
28:15
Speaker 1: and when we looked at the top three wide receivers
28:18
Speaker 1: this year, we all kind of assumed, all right, Aj
28:20
Speaker 1: Green clearly number one, Tyler Boy number two, and then
28:23
Speaker 1: interesting battle between te Higgins and John Ross perhaps to
28:27
Speaker 1: be the primary number three guy. Is Auden Tate their
28:32
Speaker 1: third best wide receiver. Man, I'll tell you the reps
28:35
Speaker 1: he's putting up a training camp. He's he's making noise.
28:38
Speaker 1: But I don't think i'd have him, you know, as
28:41
Speaker 1: the number three receiver. But I would look and say, man,
28:47
Speaker 1: I might go big at times a six four t
28:52
Speaker 1: six four Tate six five. And we've seen Joe Burrow
28:56
Speaker 1: with Tate. I mean, he has a great feel for
29:00
Speaker 1: where to put those contested catches. If you've got basically
29:03
Speaker 1: an NBA front court, you know, down the football field
29:07
Speaker 1: with these six foot to you know, five eleven to
29:10
Speaker 1: six one defensive backs, Man, I might want to go big.
29:15
Speaker 1: And if I go big, An He's shown it, Man
29:18
Speaker 1: he can and AJ climb the ladder. I mean AJ
29:21
Speaker 1: can do it. I'm I can't wait to see Aj
29:24
Speaker 1: Sky for one of those Joe Barrow big parabolo you know,
29:28
Speaker 1: contested catch deals. Tee Higgins is shown it can do
29:31
Speaker 1: the same thing. So there's gonna be packages. There's gonna
29:34
Speaker 1: be times where it's like, yeah, Taylor, he fits in this,
29:38
Speaker 1: and you know, and the more reps he gets in
29:41
Speaker 1: training camp and delivers on him again, another guy when
29:44
Speaker 1: opportunity knocked, he stepped up. Alex Erickson took advantage of opportunities.
29:49
Speaker 1: That's what you have to do to stay in the league.
29:52
Speaker 1: The Mayde has been doing zoom calls with a couple
29:55
Speaker 1: of players a day on average, and everybody that they
29:58
Speaker 1: trot out in front of us gets asked about Joe
30:00
Speaker 1: Burrow and they all gush with their praise. Has anything
30:04
Speaker 1: in particular caught your ear? The biggest thing that the
30:09
Speaker 1: teammates almost universally man leader. You know, he's got the swag,
30:16
Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's not being said like, you know, boy,
30:20
Speaker 1: you know this guy, he's a cocky sucker. You know,
30:22
Speaker 1: never heard cocky, never never earned confidence. That's what it is.
30:27
Speaker 1: And and because he's does he has skins on the wall,
30:30
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. I mean, he's but he
30:35
Speaker 1: came in and and has handled everything the right way.
30:38
Speaker 1: He has such good people skills. You know, he's not
30:41
Speaker 1: He's not going to just walk into the room with
30:43
Speaker 1: his chest out and like, hey there's a new marshal
30:45
Speaker 1: in town and you guys are nothing. You know, it's
30:47
Speaker 1: not gonna He's not like that. And I think what
30:52
Speaker 1: what he does is brings out the best in everybody
30:55
Speaker 1: and makes them feel confident in themselves. He kind of
30:58
Speaker 1: like just exude this earned confidence that's contagious, you know,
31:02
Speaker 1: and I think they talk about it all the time. Man,
31:05
Speaker 1: he came into that huddle and just took control of
31:07
Speaker 1: the huddle. Whoever, I don't know if it started with
31:10
Speaker 1: his dad or Zach whoever, whoever told him, and I'm
31:14
Speaker 1: sure he probably did the same thing at LSU, So
31:16
Speaker 1: it started long before here with the Bengals. That that is.
31:20
Speaker 1: That's a fact though, Dan, particularly when you're on the
31:22
Speaker 1: road in a hostile environment, when your quarterback comes into
31:26
Speaker 1: the huddle like John Wayne, we're gonna kick some tail boys,
31:30
Speaker 1: and this is how we're gonna do it. It's like, yeah,
31:33
Speaker 1: you know, instead of coming in with eyes wide and
31:37
Speaker 1: let's go eighty three x, say on two, ready break,
31:40
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not going to cut it. So it's
31:43
Speaker 1: just it's just exuding that that confidence, that presence, And
31:46
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing about him. He does
31:49
Speaker 1: have a presence, he really does. I mean, Guys, he
31:53
Speaker 1: walks into the room, guys notice, guys gravitate toward him,
31:56
Speaker 1: and I think that's the thing almost every one of them. Man,
31:59
Speaker 1: he's taken control the huddle. He's like a ten year
32:02
Speaker 1: said he's going to play fifteen. A's gonna run in
32:05
Speaker 1: for fifteen already that dog and hunt right there. But
32:07
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing about him. We've heard,
32:10
Speaker 1: going back to the zoo zoom calls that the players
32:13
Speaker 1: and coaches did in lieu of OTAs and mini camps,
32:17
Speaker 1: that he had a tremendous command of the offense right away.
32:20
Speaker 1: And you know, I thought that was impressive, But then
32:23
Speaker 1: it really hit home for me how impressive that actually
32:27
Speaker 1: is when we were watching practice with former UC quarterback
32:30
Speaker 1: Tony Pike and he was talking about in his first
32:32
Speaker 1: NFL camp with Carolina, he was just hoping to be
32:36
Speaker 1: able to spit out a play. It was so much
32:39
Speaker 1: more complicated. And for Joe Burrow to have all of
32:43
Speaker 1: this down and be able to make checks and changes
32:45
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage like he's been playing for
32:48
Speaker 1: five years is truly different from the norm, no question.
32:53
Speaker 1: And he's manipulating safeties with his eyes and his shoulders.
32:57
Speaker 1: You know, he's doing all these things that are you know,
33:00
Speaker 1: danced graduate school stuff. You know, instead of just I'm
33:04
Speaker 1: gonna take make sure I don't fumble the snap and
33:06
Speaker 1: first thing I see, I'm going to throw to, you know,
33:09
Speaker 1: type of read. It reminds me of I had an
33:12
Speaker 1: opportunity to do an NFL game when Peyton Manning and
33:15
Speaker 1: Tom Morton were together early in Peyton Manning's career with
33:18
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts, and Tom Moore said, I'm telling you,
33:22
Speaker 1: man early on, this kid was like what he's got,
33:27
Speaker 1: He's got such commands, such a football iq. He goes.
33:30
Speaker 1: He made all of us better, he said, including me.
33:33
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, the smartest kid in the room.
33:35
Speaker 1: No coach, that's that's wrong. This is the way he goes.
33:38
Speaker 1: This kid now and he made me a better coach.
33:41
Speaker 1: I was more prepared. And he said, Peyton Manning lifted
33:44
Speaker 1: everything and everybody. And he said it got to the
33:46
Speaker 1: point where instead of me and stall in the offense
33:48
Speaker 1: said Peyton go do it. He said, Peyton would get
33:51
Speaker 1: up and I just kind of he said, I don't
33:53
Speaker 1: know what they were paying me to do. And I
33:54
Speaker 1: think that's what Joe Burrow is about. Peyton Manning kind
33:58
Speaker 1: of re wrote preparation, you know, rewrote the first guy in,
34:03
Speaker 1: last guy to leave, and just you know, grind it,
34:06
Speaker 1: you know, learning how to be a grinder and loving
34:08
Speaker 1: the grind. Joe Burrow is cut from that cloth, and
34:12
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, as he advances and even
34:17
Speaker 1: into his early in his rookie year, I'm not saying
34:19
Speaker 1: that he's ready to do what Peyton Manning was doing
34:21
Speaker 1: with Tom Moore right now, because he's going to see
34:24
Speaker 1: coverages and defensive configurations that he hasn't really seen yet.
34:28
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, Tom Moore said Peyton Manning
34:30
Speaker 1: adjusted though so quickly. I think this kid's going to
34:33
Speaker 1: do that, and I think fairly early on. The coach
34:36
Speaker 1: is going to have to try to figure out ways
34:38
Speaker 1: to keep him real interested and motivated like Tom Moore was,
34:42
Speaker 1: because the sucker is he's smart now, he definitely is.
34:47
Speaker 1: All right. I'm gonna put you on the spot a
34:49
Speaker 1: little bit here. I want you to give me a
34:51
Speaker 1: random observation about a player a coach from training camp
34:55
Speaker 1: that you find interesting, and I'll give you an example
34:58
Speaker 1: of what I'm talking about. When the defense takes the
35:01
Speaker 1: field for their reps in eleven on eleven drills, I've
35:04
Speaker 1: noticed that more often than not, Mike Daniels is usually
35:08
Speaker 1: the first guy that runs out there. He's three hundred
35:10
Speaker 1: and ten pounds, he's thirty one years old, He's been
35:12
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl, He's logged a great career, largely
35:15
Speaker 1: with the Green Bay Packers, and yet he shows his
35:17
Speaker 1: attitude and his enthusiasm by running out there and being
35:21
Speaker 1: the first guy out there much of the time. So,
35:24
Speaker 1: has anything little and interesting caught your eye like that?
35:27
Speaker 1: Well to feed off of that, Gino Atkins has responded
35:31
Speaker 1: to it. In my opinion, Geno Atkins is killing it
35:35
Speaker 1: in one on one pass rush. And Geno Atkins reached
35:38
Speaker 1: out to him because way back, Marshall Yonda, the legendary
35:44
Speaker 1: alignment for the Baltimore Ravens, went to Iowa, as did Daniels,
35:48
Speaker 1: and Marshall Yonder reached out to Daniels and Io grad
35:51
Speaker 1: and said, look, you have the same body type as
35:54
Speaker 1: Gino Atkins, who I have a tremendous amount of respect for,
35:57
Speaker 1: and he's unbelievable and I play against the year blah
36:00
Speaker 1: blah blah and um. So they kind of reached out
36:03
Speaker 1: to each other and they became you know, friendly, and
36:06
Speaker 1: and Gino would say, hey, you know why don't you
36:09
Speaker 1: come here? Why don't you come here? So now they're here,
36:11
Speaker 1: Now they've you know, they're together, and it feels so good.
36:17
Speaker 1: You know, it's like these two guys, you got a
36:19
Speaker 1: tandem of the same type of defensive tackle. Uh low,
36:23
Speaker 1: center of gravity, powerful, And I think Gino is he's
36:30
Speaker 1: hit the fountain of youth. I mean he'll he'll win
36:32
Speaker 1: a pass rush, sprink back like Sam Hubbard. Gino last
36:36
Speaker 1: year could barely walk. I mean he was. He was
36:41
Speaker 1: playing way too many snaps. He played like seventy percent
36:43
Speaker 1: of the snaps. And I mean I thought that. I
36:45
Speaker 1: thought he was on the back nine, putting out on seventeen. Now, shoot,
36:51
Speaker 1: he's making the turn. He's looking like he's, you know,
36:53
Speaker 1: just get nine done and gonna play a solid back nine.
36:56
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's he's back. He's rejuvenated. And I
36:59
Speaker 1: think it was an offseason to work. I think they
37:01
Speaker 1: are going to monitor or snaps, but I think Daniels
37:04
Speaker 1: and the enthusiast DJ reader Daniels, I think he's like,
37:08
Speaker 1: he's rejuvenated. It's a different Geno. I like it made
37:12
Speaker 1: the turn. Had a gatorade, had a hot dog, or
37:14
Speaker 1: a brought it's back on the card. Ready to play
37:16
Speaker 1: the tenth hole? Right up my alley. All right, Time
37:20
Speaker 1: for a new batch of ask Lap questions that were
37:23
Speaker 1: submitted by Bengals fans on Twitter. Our first question comes
37:28
Speaker 1: from New Day Dusty. His question reads, where do you
37:33
Speaker 1: predict the offensive line ranks by the season's end, and
37:36
Speaker 1: if they can rank somewhere in the middle of the pack,
37:39
Speaker 1: how high is the offensive ceiling? Well here here on
37:44
Speaker 1: your observation. My hope is that they become, you know,
37:50
Speaker 1: an average offensive line, maybe even like a super Gift
37:55
Speaker 1: would be a cut above. But if they're just middle
37:58
Speaker 1: of the pack, which is good, I mean the middle
38:00
Speaker 1: of the pack offensive line is a good unit. With
38:03
Speaker 1: the skill position players they have, they could be damn good,
38:07
Speaker 1: I mean really good. We talked about it before Joe
38:13
Speaker 1: Burrow won the Heisman. The Bengals had two quarterbacks won
38:16
Speaker 1: the NFL Heisman MVP Ken Anderson, Boomers Siason. They both
38:20
Speaker 1: had running games. You know, we had Pete Johnson with
38:24
Speaker 1: Kenny Anderson Boomersiason had Icky Woods and James Brooks. So
38:29
Speaker 1: you have to be balanced. You have to be able
38:31
Speaker 1: to do both. And the offensive line has to win
38:34
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage, get a running game going
38:36
Speaker 1: help a rookie quarterback, so they don't come with all
38:38
Speaker 1: these exotic packages and blitzes and everything else. It minimizes
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Speaker 1: what they can do because we can't get too small
38:45
Speaker 1: there pound than us, you know. And then you control
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Speaker 1: the clock and you start to wear their defense out
38:51
Speaker 1: and the Bengals defense is rested. I mean, when you
38:54
Speaker 1: can run the football, everybody benefits the entire team. The
38:57
Speaker 1: ripple effect is huge, so offensive line be able to
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Speaker 1: run it, and then it's easier for you to pass block.
39:05
Speaker 1: If you're a third and seven or more man, it's
39:07
Speaker 1: a beast in the National Football League. So if they
39:10
Speaker 1: can get to middle of the pack or scoch better,
39:14
Speaker 1: they could be really good, really good. We talked about
39:18
Speaker 1: some of the individual offensive lineman earlier, but Steve oh
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Speaker 1: has this question, how is O'Shea dogas playing in practice?
39:25
Speaker 1: O'she Dugas is a big, strong, bodied guy, not tremendous mobility,
39:32
Speaker 1: struggling a little bit from a mobility stampoint. But I'm
39:34
Speaker 1: telling you that you can't bull Russ Duga. Oh Man,
39:38
Speaker 1: do Gas a load? He's a load. But the thing
39:42
Speaker 1: that there's more guys able to go position versatility than him,
39:48
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if that's just physical or if
39:51
Speaker 1: it's physical and mental. You know, he may not be,
39:54
Speaker 1: you know, as as sharp as some of the other
39:56
Speaker 1: guys in terms of comprehending and you know, entire schematics
40:01
Speaker 1: and packages where you can play anywhere in the offensive line.
40:03
Speaker 1: And I'm not really familiar with that side of it.
40:06
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's he belongs in an NFL camp, that's
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Speaker 1: for sure. He is one big, powerful human being. The
40:15
Speaker 1: next question comes from our buddy, Man, have any of
40:18
Speaker 1: the undrafted free agents stood out? Well, I'm not sure
40:22
Speaker 1: if they're undrafted before they came, but man, running back Patrick,
40:31
Speaker 1: I mean Patrick Patrick is a guy that had a
40:36
Speaker 1: big scrimmage, had the big run and had a good scrimmage,
40:39
Speaker 1: but he stacked a bunch of good practices together. You know,
40:41
Speaker 1: it hasn't just been a one hit wonder. You know,
40:44
Speaker 1: he's he's two hundred and thirty pounds and he's got
40:49
Speaker 1: some he can run, he's got some good feet, he's
40:51
Speaker 1: got a little making missibility, he's solid and blitz pickup
40:54
Speaker 1: that I've seen. He catches the ball well. He played
40:57
Speaker 1: special teams at Florida State, he played special teams in
41:00
Speaker 1: the XFL, so he could help maybe Darren Simmons. He's
41:04
Speaker 1: kind of caught my eye. And it was not just
41:06
Speaker 1: you know that one run in the in the scrimmage
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Speaker 1: that he had and another guy that's kind of stood
41:11
Speaker 1: out to me a little bit. With their problem at
41:14
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, Tupo opted out Glasgow who didn't pass his
41:19
Speaker 1: physical and then when you know it has to have surgery,
41:23
Speaker 1: this kid Bledsoe from Oklahoma. You know, I start watching
41:26
Speaker 1: him a little bit. Yeah, man, he's kind of he's
41:28
Speaker 1: hanging in there, he's competing. You know, he's looking like
41:30
Speaker 1: there's a possibility there. They signed McKenzie, who you know,
41:35
Speaker 1: it was in the NFL camp as a guard. That's
41:37
Speaker 1: Regie McKenzie's son, by the way, he played at University
41:39
Speaker 1: of Tennessee, and they signed him just have you know,
41:41
Speaker 1: training camp bodies. But I'm thinking, you know, could Bledsoe
41:45
Speaker 1: be another guy in the defensive tackle rotation if they
41:48
Speaker 1: decide to go, you know, with that many with four
41:51
Speaker 1: you know, we already talked about the three good ones,
41:54
Speaker 1: all Pro Bowl caliber guys, but Bledsoe is kind of
41:57
Speaker 1: an interesting guy. I'm gonna watch him a little bit
41:59
Speaker 1: more again. These next few practices and two scrimmages separate
42:04
Speaker 1: the men from the boys. Then Dan, I'm worthy on
42:07
Speaker 1: running back Jack Patrick number thirty one. He was Odd
42:10
Speaker 1: and Tate's roommate for a while at Florida State. All Right,
42:13
Speaker 1: our next ask lap question comes from a celebrity Bengals
42:17
Speaker 1: fan of sorts, New York Times best selling author and
42:21
Speaker 1: former Sports Illustrated writer Lars Anderson, who happens to be
42:25
Speaker 1: a huge Bengals fan a good friend to Paul Brown.
42:29
Speaker 1: Here comes this question, what was the best game you
42:32
Speaker 1: saw Joe Burrow play last year? And why? Here it
42:36
Speaker 1: is as I'm going through my memory bank, it was
42:39
Speaker 1: the National Championship game. All right, blitz package early on
42:45
Speaker 1: from Brent Vanables. Brent Vanibles, I sought Oklahoma. He's a
42:48
Speaker 1: hell of a defensive coordinator. He's a coordinator at Clemson,
42:51
Speaker 1: and Clemson's up seventeen seven. Borrow through a touchdown pass,
42:55
Speaker 1: but he's down ten points and this is the second
42:57
Speaker 1: quarter I'm watching. Burrow goes to the sideline and he's
43:00
Speaker 1: on the headset with Joe Brady and Poker face. You
43:05
Speaker 1: can't tell if he's losing by ten, winning by ten,
43:07
Speaker 1: or anything in between. And that's what I really liked
43:09
Speaker 1: about burrows whole career. Aol issue, same face, Go put
43:13
Speaker 1: on the headset, make adjustments, keep sawing wood again. Joe
43:18
Speaker 1: Burrow's game is poised. No panic. It didn't panic, three
43:22
Speaker 1: yard touchdown run, two touchdown passes all of a sudden,
43:25
Speaker 1: It's twenty eight seventeen at the half, and then Clemson
43:30
Speaker 1: scores a touchdown two point conversion. It's twenty eight twenty five.
43:33
Speaker 1: They come back a little bit. Joe Burrow finishes two
43:36
Speaker 1: touchdown passes, forty two to twenty five, five touchdown passes,
43:40
Speaker 1: one touchdown running, no gives. But at one point down
43:44
Speaker 1: seventeen seven to Clemson in the second quarter, you know,
43:48
Speaker 1: it's like man our protections, We're not picking up these
43:51
Speaker 1: blitz packages. A lesser man may have crumbled a little bit,
43:56
Speaker 1: but Joe Burrow stood tall, and he and Joe Brady
43:59
Speaker 1: made a just and they kicked Venable's packages right in
44:03
Speaker 1: the tail. And that was impressive to me in the
44:06
Speaker 1: biggest game of the year, to be able to do that,
44:09
Speaker 1: make the adjustments and then go and finish and finish
44:11
Speaker 1: Big was massive. I'm gonna say the previous game against
44:15
Speaker 1: Oklahoma because when he threw seven touchdown passes in the
44:18
Speaker 1: first half, I needed a drool bucket to control myself.
44:22
Speaker 1: Next question, definitely, definitely all right. This question comes from
44:28
Speaker 1: Steve in Kenwood. Are the Bengals watching hard knocks to
44:32
Speaker 1: scout their Week one opponent the Chargers? I'm sure they are,
44:36
Speaker 1: but the uh, the Chargers and HBO and when the
44:42
Speaker 1: Bengals didn't Marvin Lewis and HBO and the Bengals. You
44:47
Speaker 1: they have they have the option of editing everything. If
44:51
Speaker 1: there's anything on tape in the background or whatever that
44:54
Speaker 1: they don't want out there, it's on the on the
44:57
Speaker 1: editing floor does not make the broadcast. So I'm not
45:00
Speaker 1: sure that a whole hell of a lot is gonna
45:02
Speaker 1: gonna get there from a football scheme schematic standpoint a
45:06
Speaker 1: tip as such. Um, I think all the stuff that
45:10
Speaker 1: they show football stuff is very very you know, pattent,
45:15
Speaker 1: go drill routine, warm up stuff. There's not gonna be
45:19
Speaker 1: a whole lot of things they're gonna They're gonna really
45:21
Speaker 1: show themselves, but you never know. They may they may
45:25
Speaker 1: who knows somebody screws up and you know, oh yeah,
45:28
Speaker 1: we'll take that out, but they don't. So it's worth watching.
45:31
Speaker 1: Plus it's it's also you know, you're getting in the
45:35
Speaker 1: understand what the coordinators, how they think a little bit um.
45:39
Speaker 1: Maybe you already know them, maybe you don't. Any Any
45:42
Speaker 1: edge you can get in this competitive environment in the
45:44
Speaker 1: National Football League is worthwhile. This Bengals question comes from
45:50
Speaker 1: Bearcat Steve. How much will lack of crowd noise accelerate
45:54
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterbacks development? Yeah, that's that's an interesting question.
45:59
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that that the biggest thing that
46:02
Speaker 1: the rookie quarterback you know, has to deal with. And
46:05
Speaker 1: in Joe Burrow's case at LSU, crowd noise wasn't that
46:08
Speaker 1: big a deal because everything was hand signals and everything
46:11
Speaker 1: was cards from the sideline. Now there aren't going to
46:13
Speaker 1: be cards from the sideline in the NFL or with
46:16
Speaker 1: the Bengals, but you know, it may be when you're
46:19
Speaker 1: in a noisy environment, it's all it's all signals, all
46:23
Speaker 1: hand signals and all that sort of thing. Now, Joe Burrow,
46:26
Speaker 1: I think with his poison maturity, like retiring, I think
46:29
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to handle all that. But
46:31
Speaker 1: the crowd noise issue is a good question, and we've
46:35
Speaker 1: you know, Bross a couple of times. Will they allow
46:38
Speaker 1: will the league allow the home team to not just
46:42
Speaker 1: you know, run crowd noise like all thirty two teams
46:46
Speaker 1: in the NFL, whether you're home or away, you have
46:48
Speaker 1: a soundtrack and just running it. Or will they allow
46:50
Speaker 1: the home team an advantage of crazy crowd noise, you know,
46:54
Speaker 1: when the opposition has the football like there would be
46:57
Speaker 1: in a sold out crowd. That's that hasn't been the term.
47:00
Speaker 1: And yet that hasn't as far as I know. There's
47:02
Speaker 1: no definitive answer to that. In the Bengals man going
47:06
Speaker 1: to Cleveland, going to Philadelphia, they can pump in all
47:09
Speaker 1: the noise that those crowds make Joe Burrow in the
47:12
Speaker 1: Bengals offense. Yeah, it's a factor, There's no question about
47:16
Speaker 1: It's a good question. All Right, We've got a couple
47:18
Speaker 1: more questions, and our next one comes from our friend
47:21
Speaker 1: and a very talented reporter in our own right, Lindsay Patterson.
47:24
Speaker 1: I think this one's for the two of us, really
47:27
Speaker 1: your favorite call together. So we've been broadcasting the games
47:32
Speaker 1: for nine years together. What's your favorite call that we've
47:35
Speaker 1: had together. My favorite call was the Packers game in
47:40
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. The Bengals went two and one with the victory.
47:44
Speaker 1: It was back and forth thirty four thirty final. Bengs
47:48
Speaker 1: were the first team ever to win, leading by fourteen
47:51
Speaker 1: and trailing by sixteen in that football game. And it's
47:55
Speaker 1: thirty to fourteen in the second half, Cincinnati cuts the
47:57
Speaker 1: lead to thirty to twenty eight. Packers fumble. Our boy
48:01
Speaker 1: Terence Newman picks it up and goes fifty eight. I
48:04
Speaker 1: lost my cookies. Man. It was like the ball is out,
48:07
Speaker 1: the ball is out out. Oh man, he's oh, Terence
48:11
Speaker 1: is got. I'm thinking, this is unbelievable. What and Aaron
48:15
Speaker 1: Rodgers was at his at his peak, and I'm thinking
48:17
Speaker 1: this is a huge win. This is unbelievable. And the
48:21
Speaker 1: Bengals had four turnofs. They couldn't get out of their
48:23
Speaker 1: own way. I mean, that's that's why how the Packers
48:25
Speaker 1: took the big lead on them, and then they mounted
48:27
Speaker 1: the comeback and they went it on a defensive turnover
48:30
Speaker 1: touchdown fumble recovery fifty eight yard johned by Terrence Newman.
48:34
Speaker 1: I remember that that game was fun because it was
48:37
Speaker 1: back and forth. It was it was a hell of
48:38
Speaker 1: a game. I'm going to Christmas Eve two twelve, next
48:42
Speaker 1: to last game of the regular season. The Bengals go
48:45
Speaker 1: to Hines Field. If they win, they clinch a playoff spot,
48:48
Speaker 1: and they knock the dreaded hated Steelers out of the
48:52
Speaker 1: playoffs on their home field. Less than a minute to go,
48:56
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger tries to buy extra time and a typical Rothless
49:00
Speaker 1: Burger way, he's scrambling around. Finally, he throws downfield, intercepted
49:04
Speaker 1: by Reggie Nelson, his nemesis. On the next play, Andy
49:07
Speaker 1: Dalton connects to aj Green to get them within field
49:10
Speaker 1: goal range, and Josh Brown delivers to give the Bengals
49:15
Speaker 1: their second consecutive playoff berth and a rare victory over
49:19
Speaker 1: the Steelers since we've been doing the games together. Yeah,
49:21
Speaker 1: I win in Pittsburgh is memorable. There is no question
49:25
Speaker 1: about that. Like you said, I went over Pittsburgh at all. Yeah,
49:29
Speaker 1: there's been there's been some fun games. I'll tell you.
49:32
Speaker 1: We're a nice little playoff run. To start our little
49:34
Speaker 1: tenure here, we gotta get back on a like a
49:36
Speaker 1: nice little five year run again, A men to that.
49:41
Speaker 1: I also want to join Phil sapp as the only
49:45
Speaker 1: Bengals play by play announcer to call a playoff victory.
49:49
Speaker 1: Phil's had them all so far. I want to join
49:50
Speaker 1: that club. All right, here comes our final question. This
49:54
Speaker 1: one is from Thomas, directed specifically to you. Do you
49:59
Speaker 1: like I'm okay with Getta? You know, it's not like
50:06
Speaker 1: it's not like I gotta have Ghetta, but yeah, I'm
50:09
Speaker 1: okay with it. I mean it's uh, there's not a
50:12
Speaker 1: whole lot of things I don't like, and uh, yeah,
50:16
Speaker 1: I like it as a breakfast food. I'm okay with it.
50:19
Speaker 1: I love Getta? Do you? And on one of the
50:22
Speaker 1: not really, although I'll eat it pretty much in any form.
50:25
Speaker 1: I like it in omelets. Yeah, I can eat it
50:28
Speaker 1: with cheese on it. But on one of our stops
50:31
Speaker 1: on our Wednesday night Game Plan shows last year, they
50:35
Speaker 1: had a Ghetta sub Do you remember that? And it
50:37
Speaker 1: was tremendous. It was that was that was as good
50:40
Speaker 1: as Getta gets. Not healthy, but tasty, very very tasty.
50:47
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50:50
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