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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's time for Chucking Buck's weekly visit with former NFL
- 0:04Speaker 1: officials Jeane Sterotur, brought to you by Bmwcattle. Looking for
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- 0:16Speaker 1: and I ninety near the stadiums Now with Gene Sterotur.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Here's Chucking Buck right now.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Our ads have thrown off my big plan. I was
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- 0:27Speaker 2: bow on it sitting outside Jean's house for Christmas this year.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Ash, that didn't think you wanted I thought I wanted
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- 0:34Speaker 2: I was going to try to keep that a secret.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Now it's out, so Gene act surprised.
- 0:40Speaker 4: I'll pretend that I'm shutting my eyes. I'm closing my
- 0:43Speaker 4: ears right now, Chuck, I have no idea what you're
- 0:45Speaker 4: talking about. Good morning to you, Good morning, good morning everybody.
- 0:51Speaker 2: A great to have you with us. I want to
- 0:53Speaker 2: bring up something that we were just talking about, like
- 0:56Speaker 2: a couple of gambling scandals recently. And I know that
- 0:58Speaker 2: we I didn't warn you that where I was going
- 1:00Speaker 2: to bring this up, but I just want I would
- 1:03Speaker 2: imagine getting having gotten to know Gene Sterritor. There is
- 1:07Speaker 2: nothing in the world that would bother you more than
- 1:11Speaker 2: just anyone, even a rowdy fan, suggesting that you weren't
- 1:16Speaker 2: acting with integrity on the field with your calls and
- 1:20Speaker 2: that you were on the take. How much does it
- 1:23Speaker 2: bother you to hear that, not just about yourself, but
- 1:27Speaker 2: about all of your fellow officials. Is there anything in
- 1:31Speaker 2: the world that bothers you more than that accusation?
- 1:35Speaker 4: No, probably not to be really serious about it, Chuck,
- 1:38Speaker 4: You know, I mean, unfortunately, there have been situations. There
- 1:43Speaker 4: was a very large one with an official actually in
- 1:46Speaker 4: the NBA while I was actively officiating in the NFL.
- 1:51Speaker 4: You know it is it is exactly what you just said. Yeah,
- 1:54Speaker 4: I do love these games. I'd love doing what I did.
- 1:57Speaker 4: I love the passion of sports. The integrity of the
- 2:00Speaker 4: game is really what I love the most. And that's why,
- 2:04Speaker 4: you know, I volunteered to assume the roles that I
- 2:07Speaker 4: was fortunate enough to have, because officiating is that projection
- 2:12Speaker 4: of integrity and keeping the game there that and then
- 2:15Speaker 4: when we have these blips and these human weaknesses or
- 2:18Speaker 4: whatever these situations create. Now where the conspiracy theorists have
- 2:25Speaker 4: a precedent to say, see, I told you so, the
- 2:28Speaker 4: game suffers. And if it's a player, if it's an official,
- 2:31Speaker 4: if it's a coach, it really doesn't matter, right, I mean,
- 2:34Speaker 4: once those spots take place, you've skilled the beast to
- 2:39Speaker 4: say all of these crazy things that are said because
- 2:43Speaker 4: of a couple of bad apples, right, and they're they're serious.
- 2:47Speaker 4: And look at the officiating world NCAA. When I worked
- 2:50Speaker 4: in college basketball, we had a you know, a very
- 2:52Speaker 4: large segment of our regional clinic was about gambling, was
- 2:56Speaker 4: about being approached or who to speak to or what
- 3:00Speaker 4: you think, maybe just a normal conversation about, Hey, I
- 3:02Speaker 4: saw you were at such and such place last night
- 3:05Speaker 4: and so and so it looked like he was limping
- 3:07Speaker 4: a little bit. Did you you know that? You know,
- 3:09Speaker 4: you would think that would be kind of normal airport? Right, Wait,
- 3:12Speaker 4: waiting for a playing conversation, It's not right. So you
- 3:16Speaker 4: do live in that world and you have to be
- 3:19Speaker 4: aware of it. And the National Football League naturally is
- 3:23Speaker 4: very adamant about all of those types of things. When
- 3:25Speaker 4: I actively officiated in the NFL, you were not permitted
- 3:28Speaker 4: in a casino period full stop. That's it, and never
- 3:31Speaker 4: in a sports book, even in the off season because
- 3:33Speaker 4: of that, and you wear that as a badge of honors.
- 3:36Speaker 4: So yes, it hurts. It hurts the games, It hurts
- 3:38Speaker 4: all of what we do. And you know, Chuck, I
- 3:40Speaker 4: do listen to you guys, not just on Tuesdays, you.
- 3:43Speaker 2: Know, but but but.
- 3:44Speaker 4: Through the week. And what you had just said earlier
- 3:46Speaker 4: was right. The prop betting is it seems to me
- 3:52Speaker 4: would be more inviting, right to that person that may
- 3:55Speaker 4: not want to throw a game, you know, because of
- 3:58Speaker 4: his feel for the team and all the other things, right,
- 4:01Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Hey, what if I just
- 4:03Speaker 4: throw ball three or ball one here? I can make
- 4:06Speaker 4: that back up. It's not a big deal. So it's
- 4:09Speaker 4: opened up a window to maybe convince yourself that I'm
- 4:12Speaker 4: really not infecting the integrity of the game. Yeah, I'm
- 4:15Speaker 4: just playing with it a little bit. But I can
- 4:17Speaker 4: overcome that, you know. And I think we're in a
- 4:19Speaker 4: in a very delicate spot as a result of it.
- 4:21Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just don't like the idea that
- 4:24Speaker 2: you've got a buddy that at some point in the
- 4:27Speaker 2: middle of the game, I'll blow two free throws I'll
- 4:30Speaker 2: give you a wink. When you've got the bed in,
- 4:34Speaker 2: you'll put your hat in your lap. I mean, that
- 4:36Speaker 2: just is too dangerous. And you're right. I mean maybe
- 4:39Speaker 2: that's another element that you brought up that if you
- 4:44Speaker 2: think that I won't throw this from my teammates, but
- 4:47Speaker 2: no one will notice if I just make a little
- 4:49Speaker 2: money on the side. I think that's a phenomenal point.
- 4:52Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's get into some of the things
- 4:54Speaker 2: that happened over the weekend. We had a couple of
- 4:56Speaker 2: things in the Seahawks games that you were actually on
- 4:59Speaker 2: the broadcast for so enjoyed hearing you on our Seahawks
- 5:03Speaker 2: broadcast this past weekend against the Cardinals. Uh sorry, not sorry.
- 5:08Speaker 2: We didn't give you a more competitive game to monitor
- 5:12Speaker 2: their gene.
- 5:14Speaker 4: You know, though, it's good fun. The team, guys, I'm
- 5:16Speaker 4: gonna be honest with you, man, it's the team is
- 5:19Speaker 4: really a good, solid football team. And I know what
- 5:22Speaker 4: the energy of the stadium brings when you're in that stadium,
- 5:26Speaker 4: and what the fan base really does do. And I
- 5:28Speaker 4: do think there's a couple of points there here or there,
- 5:30Speaker 4: not for any gambling purposes, but just just because of
- 5:33Speaker 4: the magnitude of the twelfth person and watching how they're executed,
- 5:37Speaker 4: how they're playing is a special thing, you know. And
- 5:40Speaker 4: you're up weeks every one, so that's a long season.
- 5:43Speaker 4: But what a great football team.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Yeah, well they were back to back. They weren't back
- 5:47Speaker 2: to back plays, but we had twin plays that resulted
- 5:51Speaker 2: in a sack, fumble, touchdown. Ty Reese Knight got both
- 5:56Speaker 2: the sax and force fumbles. DeMarcus Lawrence got both the
- 5:59Speaker 2: fumble return and the touchdowns. Number one, have you ever
- 6:02Speaker 2: seen that, ever seen two plays that's similar from a
- 6:05Speaker 2: defense in a game? And then number two, you were
- 6:08Speaker 2: on the call. How close were either one of those
- 6:11Speaker 2: from being overturned?
- 6:13Speaker 4: Close? And I think those plays and I do think
- 6:17Speaker 4: replay And again I can harken back because I am
- 6:19Speaker 4: that long in the tooth when we did not have replay.
- 6:22Speaker 4: So when you were on the field, you were the
- 6:24Speaker 4: only person going to rule whether the player was down
- 6:27Speaker 4: or whether it was a fumble. And we used to
- 6:28Speaker 4: have the phrase like you have to sell the call
- 6:30Speaker 4: right because it was so close and you wanted to
- 6:33Speaker 4: get it right. And I do think that replay has
- 6:37Speaker 4: allowed those plays or officials to feel comfortable that my gosh,
- 6:40Speaker 4: that's just so close. Just let it play right, And
- 6:44Speaker 4: then we do look and yeah, they're close plays. They're
- 6:46Speaker 4: really framed by frame plays about possession or loss of
- 6:50Speaker 4: and down by contact you and we're leaving those plays alone.
- 6:54Speaker 4: Sometimes we leave someones that are a little too easy
- 6:57Speaker 4: to kind of stop, and we don't. But I do
- 6:59Speaker 4: think replace helped that. And to answer the first part
- 7:02Speaker 4: of it, I've never seen one player create the fumble
- 7:06Speaker 4: the other scoop and score and then to have it repeated.
- 7:09Speaker 4: And you know, the chat GPT I think is even
- 7:12Speaker 4: confused by the question because I was we were talking
- 7:15Speaker 4: about it in the studio like, don't I don't recall
- 7:18Speaker 4: that ever happening, you know, So a couple of one
- 7:21Speaker 4: offs there, which is kind of fun.
- 7:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:25Speaker 3: Well, there was another thing in the Seattle game where
- 7:28Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigbo was concussed and he had came
- 7:31Speaker 3: out and yet hadn't gone through like the concussion protocol
- 7:35Speaker 3: and the game was stopped and then all of a
- 7:37Speaker 3: sudden he tried to go back in there like, no,
- 7:38Speaker 3: you got to go through the protocol.
- 7:40Speaker 2: What is there?
- 7:41Speaker 3: Something is that on you guys? Or is there a
- 7:42Speaker 3: specific concussion guy on the sidelines. How are you guys
- 7:46Speaker 3: supposed to make sure they go through whatever it is
- 7:48Speaker 3: they're supposed to follow through with.
- 7:51Speaker 4: Well, there's multiple layers, Buck, and it's a great question.
- 7:53Speaker 4: If my memory serves me correctly, I do believe that
- 7:56Speaker 4: one of the players after the initial play there was
- 7:59Speaker 4: a start, if I remember correctly, they took a defensive
- 8:02Speaker 4: player out for that, and I believe that those people. So,
- 8:07Speaker 4: just to give you a little background, yes, officials are
- 8:09Speaker 4: asked that if they feel or they see something or
- 8:12Speaker 4: look at a player's helmet after a hit. A lot
- 8:15Speaker 4: of times it may not be the hit. It may
- 8:17Speaker 4: be the head hitting off the turf, but it's the proximity.
- 8:20Speaker 5: Of you being there.
- 8:21Speaker 4: And you know, I'm not a doctor, but if you
- 8:23Speaker 4: feel like that player looks woozy or just stumbling something
- 8:28Speaker 4: of that effect, something that would be rather noticeable, right,
- 8:30Speaker 4: and you're there to stop the game, and he's going
- 8:34Speaker 4: to be removed and checked and in this case the
- 8:37Speaker 4: defensive back that is stopt. They have what they call
- 8:40Speaker 4: an ATC spot er. I forget what the letters are
- 8:44Speaker 4: forgive me for that right at the moment, but there
- 8:46Speaker 4: is an individual in the stadium upstairs, rewinding the plays,
- 8:49Speaker 4: looking at the plays, looking on the field, and if
- 8:52Speaker 4: they happen to see something like that head hit in
- 8:56Speaker 4: a delayed reaction or a player stumbling after that that
- 8:58Speaker 4: wasn't caught, they wired downright to the officials on the
- 9:02Speaker 4: field immediately stopped the game. Stop the game, they'll identify
- 9:05Speaker 4: the player, and then that players removed. I know that
- 9:08Speaker 4: happened with the defensive back. The Smith and Gibber situation is,
- 9:12Speaker 4: I don't know that he played the next play, but
- 9:14Speaker 4: then he came back onto the field, if I recall correctly,
- 9:18Speaker 4: and then I think the ATEC spot I recognized he
- 9:21Speaker 4: was back on the field, and it may have been
- 9:22Speaker 4: them and looking at the first player the defensive player
- 9:26Speaker 4: situation that they also were looking at that play and thought,
- 9:30Speaker 4: looks like Smith and Jigger got a pretty good hit
- 9:32Speaker 4: there as well. And again I am speculating here, but
- 9:36Speaker 4: I'm assuming that's what may have occurred, and they have
- 9:39Speaker 4: stopped it and asked him to take a walk into
- 9:41Speaker 4: the tent and go through the protocol as well.
- 9:43Speaker 2: Yeah, does the ATC, which I think is Alcohol, Tobacco
- 9:47Speaker 2: and Concussions Agency, do they follow, well, did they follow
- 9:54Speaker 2: JSN up and down the sin of since that is
- 9:57Speaker 2: their job, do they make sure they go through the protocol?
- 10:00Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no, no, no, no, that's not thorough enough.
- 10:03Speaker 2: And then they alert the official is that they also
- 10:06Speaker 2: monitor them once they're off the field, I guess is
- 10:08Speaker 2: the question?
- 10:09Speaker 4: Well, I think in this case, Chuck, he kind of
- 10:11Speaker 4: removed himself right, either strategy wise or it was just
- 10:14Speaker 4: a substitution that took place after a big play. I
- 10:17Speaker 4: don't know that he was examined at that point. I
- 10:20Speaker 4: know he wasn't officially examined because he had not entered
- 10:23Speaker 4: that tent and then had that private moment with the
- 10:25Speaker 4: doctor's trainers or whomever is inside there. So my assumption
- 10:29Speaker 4: isn't And really maybe they were looking at the sideline
- 10:33Speaker 4: and seeing him on that sideline and then tying that
- 10:36Speaker 4: I don't know whatever he was doing over there with
- 10:39Speaker 4: that play, and felt like, you know what, we're always
- 10:43Speaker 4: airing on the side of safety when it comes to
- 10:45Speaker 4: these rightly, so, so that may have been going through
- 10:48Speaker 4: their mind or maybe part of the observation prior to
- 10:51Speaker 4: stopping him.
- 10:51Speaker 2: Jane's Territorius with Us a segment that brought to you
- 10:54Speaker 2: by BMW Seattle every single week. Let's talk about taunting.
- 10:59Speaker 2: Were you a two pump guy? Did you subscribe? I
- 11:05Speaker 2: don't know if you know the connection with Ricodowdell and
- 11:09Speaker 2: the Key and Peel Ski, but it's popped up in
- 11:12Speaker 2: the National Football League and that officials only allow one
- 11:17Speaker 2: pump with the hips. Were you a one pump or
- 11:21Speaker 2: a two pump official?
- 11:24Speaker 4: Well, Chuck, I mean again, I'll plug myself in Paramount
- 11:27Speaker 4: Plus and CBS and everybody right now. But we have
- 11:30Speaker 4: a show now that streams on Paramount Plus and YouTube TV,
- 11:35Speaker 4: NFL Pregame or NFL Today Pregame, Paramount Plus. It's a
- 11:39Speaker 4: great show with Matt Ryan, Amanda, Kyle Long, Antonio Pierce.
- 11:46Speaker 4: They do a great show. And I actually went on
- 11:48Speaker 4: the show this week because it is a streaming show
- 11:50Speaker 4: Pregamer on ten a m Eastern, and we talked about
- 11:53Speaker 4: the pumpgate, yeah, and what is allowed and look, I
- 11:58Speaker 4: had full transparency and if no, I was going to
- 12:00Speaker 4: tick on, we need to clicks on the stream, so
- 12:03Speaker 4: I'm plugging. But we went back into the history of
- 12:06Speaker 4: what could have been the beginnings of this and believe
- 12:09Speaker 4: it or not Aaron Rodgers pulled a like a little
- 12:11Speaker 4: mini what would be the key and peel third pump
- 12:14Speaker 4: kind of movement if you've watched the skit in twenty twenty.
- 12:18Speaker 4: And then we had a digs that pulled it off
- 12:20Speaker 4: I think in week eight, which kind of caught like,
- 12:23Speaker 4: oh is that? What is that one? And then we
- 12:26Speaker 4: have moved forward as you you know, so aptly described,
- 12:30Speaker 4: and now we had to choreograph full key and peel
- 12:32Speaker 4: skin and I thought it was great when they interviewed
- 12:34Speaker 4: the player and he really thought the key and peels
- 12:38Speaker 4: ruling was like the NFL ruling, like oh no, no,
- 12:41Speaker 4: you're allowed to you know, just not three. So yeah,
- 12:45Speaker 4: but it does, you know, go back to the no
- 12:47Speaker 4: fun leg It falls.
- 12:48Speaker 6: In the sexual gesture category and we can't even have
- 12:52Speaker 6: a pump here, guys.
- 12:53Speaker 2: You don't even have luck, but.
- 12:55Speaker 4: You're not allowed any pumping at all. And look when
- 12:57Speaker 4: you got an older guy with a bad back that
- 12:59Speaker 4: if he had the pump three times like that, what
- 13:02Speaker 4: I don't know if I can get three in and
- 13:03Speaker 4: two if I had, you want to throw my back out?
- 13:06Speaker 4: I got to call something on you that I'm jealous,
- 13:08Speaker 4: you know, So but yeah, I thought it was enjoyable
- 13:11Speaker 4: to watch.
- 13:13Speaker 2: Do you think they're do you think right now?
- 13:15Speaker 3: I know that they created a you know, the idea of, hey,
- 13:18Speaker 3: let's kind of get some of the taunting out of it.
- 13:20Speaker 3: You know, there's there's a you'll see it bount once
- 13:23Speaker 3: a week. It feels like somebody will do something in
- 13:26Speaker 3: a flaggerstone. Do you feel like it's working. They're trying
- 13:28Speaker 3: to get some of the taunting and increase the sportsmanship.
- 13:32Speaker 4: It is Buck, and it's of an evolving scenario because
- 13:36Speaker 4: the generations just continue to get more creative, and you know,
- 13:40Speaker 4: like it or not, there's generational gaps. Some things that
- 13:44Speaker 4: are hot and new in the twenty year old world
- 13:46Speaker 4: a fifty five year old person may not be aware of, right,
- 13:49Speaker 4: But no, there's there's a constant movement through that and
- 13:52Speaker 4: it's the dance that we don't want to be the
- 13:54Speaker 4: no fun like there is entertainment now more with this,
- 13:57Speaker 4: they have become more flexible than when I started. But
- 14:00Speaker 4: then there's also a platform and the respect of not
- 14:04Speaker 4: of all the viewers and the demographics of the viewers
- 14:06Speaker 4: that are watching. So sexual gestures, weapon things, brandishing, all
- 14:10Speaker 4: these things that have come about with his creativity of
- 14:12Speaker 4: the players and what's hot and new in their world.
- 14:17Speaker 4: You've got to constantly evolve with that and try to
- 14:20Speaker 4: work in that balance where yes, this is entertaining, but no,
- 14:24Speaker 4: this is not a message we want to send to
- 14:26Speaker 4: the next generation. So it is it is NonStop evolving, right,
- 14:31Speaker 4: And I think this is a good case of that.
- 14:32Speaker 4: This is a real good example of that.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Why why was Bradley Chubb flagged? I mean it made
- 14:38Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins fans pretty angry in the Bills game. That
- 14:41Speaker 2: didn't look very harmful at all. He was just kind
- 14:45Speaker 2: of walking away from a guy that he sacked and
- 14:48Speaker 2: did a little silly dance and got flagged. Was that
- 14:51Speaker 2: taking it too far? Or was that, in your opinion
- 14:55Speaker 2: aggressive on Chubb's part.
- 14:58Speaker 4: I think that's where we get into, you know, things
- 15:00Speaker 4: not black and white, and what subjectivity is and what
- 15:03Speaker 4: did you interpret by the uh the crawling over top
- 15:07Speaker 4: of the individual after the tackle and the proximity of
- 15:10Speaker 4: the body part store on another body part, and and
- 15:14Speaker 4: I think that's what I'm assuming that that's what they
- 15:17Speaker 4: that's what they interpreted there. Yeah, And I think in
- 15:20Speaker 4: the book it does say by the letter of the law.
- 15:22Speaker 4: After taking a player down, you roll off of them
- 15:24Speaker 4: because they don't want the players standing over top of
- 15:27Speaker 4: the opponents. Things of that nature. To me, yeah, it
- 15:32Speaker 4: happens quick. I've seen a lot of players that go
- 15:34Speaker 4: into the command or crawl right after they make a
- 15:36Speaker 4: big hit without bodies underneath of them. They flagged it.
- 15:40Speaker 4: And I think, if I'm really you know, reughing that
- 15:43Speaker 4: game and I see it, it happened so quickly, I
- 15:45Speaker 4: may have a quick conversation with the individual and no,
- 15:48Speaker 4: it's and preface it with I know you didn't mean
- 15:51Speaker 4: to do that or have it look like that, but
- 15:53Speaker 4: it could have looked like that, So let's try to
- 15:55Speaker 4: stay away from that move. But that's my guess again,
- 15:58Speaker 4: and I, you know, some of that speculat.
- 16:00Speaker 2: You know what, I think I saw an edited version
- 16:03Speaker 2: somebody that tried to control the narrative because it looked
- 16:06Speaker 2: to me I only saw the part where he was
- 16:08Speaker 2: sort of dancing away from him. I didn't even see
- 16:10Speaker 2: the part where he was crawling over the top of him.
- 16:13Speaker 2: So yeah, now now it makes a little more sense.
- 16:15Speaker 2: It probably just was a delayed flag. In that situation,
- 16:18Speaker 2: you weren't happening to be on the Seahawks Super Bowl
- 16:22Speaker 2: when Doug Baldwin did his silly thing in the end.
- 16:27Speaker 4: No, I missed that one was I was not part
- 16:31Speaker 4: of that. I was part of some of Marshawn's looks
- 16:34Speaker 4: of adjusting himself as he got to the one yard
- 16:37Speaker 4: line and would turn back to look at the field though.
- 16:39Speaker 4: So that was another creative play that started to happen, right,
- 16:43Speaker 4: I mean if we look back in history, so.
- 16:45Speaker 2: Yeah, how did you I don't recall how you handled that?
- 16:48Speaker 2: How did you handle that?
- 16:50Speaker 4: Uh? What's the fifteen yard flag?
- 16:56Speaker 2: I think that seems appropriate.
- 16:59Speaker 6: Probably chuckle during commercial because you're a human. You know,
- 17:03Speaker 6: you don't have to be you know, this old crotchety
- 17:06Speaker 6: guy all the time I made it's a foul, and
- 17:08Speaker 6: then maybe we laughed when the cameras are.
- 17:13Speaker 2: All right, Well, great stuff today. Thanks for zigging and
- 17:16Speaker 2: zagging with me through these topics today. Appreciate you, and
- 17:20Speaker 2: we'll do it again next week.
- 17:22Speaker 4: Thanks guys, have a great week.
- 17:24Speaker 2: All right. Jean staretur CBS Rules Analyst's Greatest Official and
- 17:28Speaker 2: NFL History, joining us every single week right here on
- 17:31Speaker 2: Chuck and Buck. Thanks to BMW Seattle. Looking for a
- 17:35Speaker 2: new or used BMW or something else. Even go check
- 17:38Speaker 2: out BMW Seattle, conveniently located between I five and I
- 17:43Speaker 2: ninety near the stadium. Appreciate Gene. He even was able
- 17:48Speaker 2: to roll with us on the Hinkel mccrinkleberry two pumps.
- 17:52Speaker 2: I think Michael Bennett brought that back for a little
- 17:54Speaker 2: while there as well, and he was doing that celebration
- 17:58Speaker 2: dance after his sex. I think he got flagged for it,
- 18:02Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, But I didn't realize no pumps
- 18:05Speaker 2: was the rule. You can't do one pump, forget two pumps.
- 18:08Speaker 2: It's zero pump.
- 18:09Speaker 3: They let him do like quarter pumps, maybe even half pumps,
- 18:13Speaker 3: quarter pumps maybe like uh well, no, don't don't do it.
- 18:18Speaker 5: No.
- 18:18Speaker 2: Dalle was funny because he didn't pump at all. So
- 18:21Speaker 2: he gathered everybody around and he did the hinkle mccrinkleberry
- 18:25Speaker 2: stance in the in the end zone. Everybody was looking
- 18:28Speaker 2: at him, and then he just ran off the field.
- 18:31Speaker 2: All right, Everett fits, you will join us here on
- 18:34Speaker 2: the other side. That's worthy. You know, a couple couple
- 18:37Speaker 2: pumps right there. Pumps. So we'll talk to the voice
- 18:40Speaker 2: next on kJ R. Here's Montour left side activates down
- 18:43Speaker 2: the wall.
- 18:44Speaker 5: Montour back man shot toward the goal, everly swatted it
- 18:47Speaker 5: ve Seattle back to the line.
- 18:48Speaker 7: Here's Stevens has said Turler. Steven said, point five left
- 18:56Speaker 7: in the third Seattle tie the game three wait and
- 19:01Speaker 7: period number three.
- 19:05Speaker 2: Oh Iver fits you on the call. Saturday's unbelievable come
- 19:09Speaker 2: from behind win for the Krack, And we'll get into
- 19:12Speaker 2: it here in a moment with the voice himself Crack
- 19:14Speaker 2: and Ticket Tuesday, though, I want to let you know,
- 19:16Speaker 2: if you're the tenth caller every single hour when you
- 19:19Speaker 2: hear that audio played here on KJAR call us at
- 19:24Speaker 2: two oh six two eight six ninety five ninety five,
- 19:26Speaker 2: that tenth call is gonna win a pair of tickets
- 19:28Speaker 2: to see the Crack and play November twenty sixth against
- 19:30Speaker 2: the Dallas Stars. Joining us. Now, the man that made
- 19:33Speaker 2: that call, Everett fits You, is with us. How unbelievable
- 19:37Speaker 2: was that finish?
- 19:39Speaker 5: You know what I think for where that game started
- 19:42Speaker 5: to where that game ended. I mean typically after a
- 19:46Speaker 5: game like that, you're start like that, you're hoping, I
- 19:50Speaker 5: hope they can hold on. Excuse me, I hope they
- 19:53Speaker 5: can find some kind of solace. But for them, the
- 19:56Speaker 5: battle back in the way that they did that was
- 19:58Speaker 5: a hard lot earned win. I mean, they they put
- 20:03Speaker 5: they put a couple of really bad mistakes behind them from.
- 20:08Speaker 4: That second period.
- 20:09Speaker 5: They got back to their game, they got back to
- 20:12Speaker 5: what made them successful, and they were able to eek
- 20:15Speaker 5: out two points.
- 20:16Speaker 2: You've never called a goal with point five seconds left
- 20:20Speaker 2: in I.
- 20:21Speaker 5: Honestly, I can honestly say, I'm pretty confident. I don't
- 20:25Speaker 5: think I have. I've called a game with five seconds left.
- 20:29Speaker 5: I've called the game, you know, obviously in the final minute,
- 20:32Speaker 5: but with point five seconds, yeah, left on the clock.
- 20:37Speaker 5: I mean, that was that was unbelievable.
- 20:39Speaker 2: Their last second shots in basketball. But then again, there's
- 20:42Speaker 2: not a guy standing in front of the goal. I
- 20:45Speaker 2: mean there are walkoff homers in baseball, but there's no clock.
- 20:49Speaker 2: I mean, for the only thing better if it had
- 20:52Speaker 2: been tied and he did that, it was a walk off,
- 20:55Speaker 2: skate off goal, yeah, with point five seconds. But that's
- 20:59Speaker 2: in saying. To get that in there, I.
- 21:02Speaker 5: Will say when I was in college, one of my
- 21:04Speaker 5: one of my only ever basketball games that broadcasted, I
- 21:08Speaker 5: forget who who Bowling Green was playing, but I had
- 21:12Speaker 5: a buzzer beater and it sounded like Gus Johnson at
- 21:16Speaker 5: the Indiana Penn State game over the weekend. You know, oh,
- 21:23Speaker 5: I was, I was a falsetto. I was streaming.
- 21:26Speaker 4: I was a.
- 21:26Speaker 5: Nineteen year old sophomore.
- 21:29Speaker 4: Losing my ever loving mind. I have no idea what
- 21:31Speaker 4: I even said.
- 21:34Speaker 5: That. That's probably about it. My my best Gus Johnson
- 21:38Speaker 5: when I was and I was in college. That's as
- 21:41Speaker 5: close as I've ever come.
- 21:42Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Fits they couldn't follow that up the next night
- 21:45Speaker 3: when they when they went to Dallas, and and yet
- 21:48Speaker 3: it's still good game, competitive game. To me, it feels
- 21:51Speaker 3: like they're better. I don't know what the win loss
- 21:55Speaker 3: record is on uh, you know, back to back nights.
- 21:58Speaker 3: I know that last year. In the last couple of years,
- 22:00Speaker 3: they haven't had a very good record when it comes out,
- 22:02Speaker 3: but they look like they're more competitive even if they're playing,
- 22:05Speaker 3: you know, the night after they had just played. Are
- 22:07Speaker 3: you seeing the same thing or no?
- 22:09Speaker 5: Yeah, we don't talk about the record, Bucky and the
- 22:12Speaker 5: in game two is of back to backs.
- 22:13Speaker 4: We're gonna for that record itself.
- 22:17Speaker 5: No, it's it's been a while, but I will say,
- 22:19Speaker 5: and Al avert we're talking about this, that was that
- 22:23Speaker 5: was definitely the best effort, the best game in game
- 22:28Speaker 5: two of back to back that we've seen in over
- 22:32Speaker 5: a year.
- 22:34Speaker 4: And and honestly, I think Casey the Smith.
- 22:37Speaker 5: For Dallas, he just was on fire, their goaltender, and
- 22:41Speaker 5: the Kraken had every opportunity to score goals in that game.
- 22:45Speaker 5: They had thirty plus shots on goal. They did everything right,
- 22:48Speaker 5: but they ran into a hot goalie. The effort was there,
- 22:51Speaker 5: the compete level was there. You didn't since from the
- 22:55Speaker 5: Seattle from both teams, actually, because Dallas also played on Saturday,
- 23:00Speaker 5: you didn't since any of the fatigue that you might
- 23:03Speaker 5: get in game two of the back to back. Al
- 23:06Speaker 5: even going so far as to say, and I agree
- 23:08Speaker 5: with him.
- 23:09Speaker 4: That it was it had a very.
- 23:11Speaker 5: Playoff like feel to it. So you're right. I mean,
- 23:14Speaker 5: this team has gotten much better in those situations. This
- 23:17Speaker 5: is only the second back to back this season. They're
- 23:21Speaker 5: gonna have eleven more so they're gonna have plenty more
- 23:24Speaker 5: chances to get to get it.
- 23:26Speaker 4: But for the record, the Kraken are.
- 23:29Speaker 5: Now oh and fourteen in their last in game twos
- 23:35Speaker 5: of back to back since last season, so the record
- 23:39Speaker 5: obviously is not good, but last night was, hands down,
- 23:43Speaker 5: bar none, the best game two back to back effort
- 23:48Speaker 5: that we've seen in a year plus for Seattle.
- 23:51Speaker 2: The Voice Eric fits You is with us every Tuesday
- 23:54Speaker 2: at this time to talk some krack and hockey. The
- 23:56Speaker 2: team back in action tonight at home against the Columbus
- 24:00Speaker 2: US Blue Jackets, coming off a couple memorable games over
- 24:04Speaker 2: the weekend. But Joey to Cord placed on the IR
- 24:09Speaker 2: what I mean and the NHL I AR works a
- 24:12Speaker 2: little different than other people's I are, so maybe explain
- 24:15Speaker 2: the rules and just how serious this is for the
- 24:17Speaker 2: team's goalie.
- 24:19Speaker 4: So we haven't.
- 24:21Speaker 5: We haven't gotten official word on Joey yet. Oh yes,
- 24:25Speaker 5: when you place when you place someone on IR, that
- 24:28Speaker 5: means they are out for at least four games. So
- 24:31Speaker 5: it sounds like he's eligible to return on Saturday. Now,
- 24:36Speaker 5: we don't know how.
- 24:39Speaker 4: Severe the issue is.
- 24:40Speaker 5: All that we know is that he did not travel
- 24:43Speaker 5: with the crack into Saint Louis and Dallas is being
- 24:46Speaker 5: evaluated for an upper body injury. We're hoping to find
- 24:50Speaker 5: out more morning. Skate will be here about an hour
- 24:53Speaker 5: and a half or so. And attentive team. So we're
- 24:55Speaker 5: hoping for an update by then. If not, then afore
- 25:00Speaker 5: the game tonight. Hey, you never know, right, things could
- 25:04Speaker 5: be things could be great. He could be out for
- 25:06Speaker 5: the next two nights and then and then we'll see
- 25:08Speaker 5: him back this weekend. But we've got nothing official yet.
- 25:11Speaker 5: I will say that Matt Murray and put Grubauer. I
- 25:14Speaker 5: thought they they did a very very good job in
- 25:20Speaker 5: in coming in winning games on Saturday for for Grubauer,
- 25:25Speaker 5: and then keeping the Kraken in the game the entire
- 25:28Speaker 5: night for Murray on Sunday. And for two goalies who
- 25:30Speaker 5: have not played in two and a half weeks, they've
- 25:33Speaker 5: come in and relief. This is their first true start
- 25:37Speaker 5: since you know, games four and six of the season.
- 25:42Speaker 5: So I think for Seattle, they they've got two goalies
- 25:47Speaker 5: who are capable of winning in this league. You've seen
- 25:50Speaker 5: it before. We all seen what Grubauer can do. Matt
- 25:52Speaker 5: Murray's won a couple of Cups. He's trying to get
- 25:54Speaker 5: back to a level that that he was in his
- 25:57Speaker 5: past career. He came in this offseason in preseason and
- 26:01Speaker 5: said this is the best that he's felt in ten years.
- 26:03Speaker 5: So you know, I know the team is confident in
- 26:06Speaker 5: both Goldies that have You're hoping for good news on
- 26:08Speaker 5: Joey de Court, but when when you see ir, he's
- 26:11Speaker 5: at least.
- 26:12Speaker 4: Gone for four so that means he's out tonight.
- 26:14Speaker 5: He's out on Thursday, and then hopefully we see him
- 26:19Speaker 5: back on Saturday. But we've got no official work yet.
- 26:22Speaker 3: All right, who's the what do we got to look
- 26:25Speaker 3: forward to to night against the Blue Jackets? I mean,
- 26:27Speaker 3: who's the guy that I need to be cheering against
- 26:28Speaker 3: or watching out for while and watching?
- 26:31Speaker 5: I mean, Carill Martenko is a superstar that I don't
- 26:36Speaker 5: think a lot of folks give credit for because he
- 26:39Speaker 5: plays in Columbus. You know, he has all the tools
- 26:44Speaker 5: and all the intangibles of a great goal scorer, a
- 26:47Speaker 5: great playmaker in this league. He's on an eight game
- 26:51Speaker 5: point streak. He's got points in all but two games
- 26:53Speaker 5: this season for Columbus. They are coming off of a
- 26:57Speaker 5: very emotional over time I'm lost in Edmonton last night.
- 27:02Speaker 5: They had a four to two lead in the third
- 27:06Speaker 5: and then they ended up losing five to four on
- 27:08Speaker 5: the road last night in Edmonton. So they're coming in
- 27:12Speaker 5: in game two of their back to back. Their number
- 27:14Speaker 5: one goalie, Elvis burs Linkins, is going to play tonight,
- 27:18Speaker 5: so they saved him for the second go back to back,
- 27:22Speaker 5: So it's not gonna be easy, I think the Kraken
- 27:25Speaker 5: though they've had Columbus's number, they've won five of their
- 27:28Speaker 5: last six, but their last meeting in Columbus last year
- 27:31Speaker 5: they lost six too, So a lot of I think
- 27:37Speaker 5: defensive structure is gonna have to be applied here tonight
- 27:41Speaker 5: again because Columbus is a team that likes to push
- 27:43Speaker 5: the pace, They like to rush up the ice. They
- 27:45Speaker 5: a little bit loose, a lot like San Jose, but
- 27:48Speaker 5: they don't have I think the same amount of skill
- 27:52Speaker 5: and as San Jose has. But this is going to
- 27:55Speaker 5: be another game where the Kraken cannot afford to sit
- 27:58Speaker 5: back defensively and get into a track meet.
- 28:01Speaker 2: By the way, you handled the call perfectly, having never
- 28:03Speaker 2: been there before, that was an outstanding call. I didn't
- 28:06Speaker 2: mention that when we play.
- 28:08Speaker 4: Thank you, yeah, perfect, perfect, Thank you very much. Yeah.
- 28:11Speaker 2: Yeah. All right, So tonight Columbus seven o'clock, puck drops
- 28:16Speaker 2: and Mike menton on the airwaves at six thirty. I'm
- 28:19Speaker 2: assuming and we're ready to go and get this thing
- 28:22Speaker 2: back on the right track. Correct, Yes, we are.
- 28:26Speaker 4: Three game homestands starts tonight.
- 28:28Speaker 5: We got Columbus tonight, Winnipeg on Thursday, another crack at
- 28:32Speaker 5: the San Jose Sharks on Saturday, and then they're out
- 28:36Speaker 5: of town for the next week. They go out east
- 28:38Speaker 5: for Detroit, Chicago, Pittsburgh and the New York Islanders next week.
- 28:42Speaker 5: So three big games here at home, and right now
- 28:45Speaker 5: they're cracking, are sitting, you know, comfortably, I shouldn't say comfortably.
- 28:49Speaker 5: They're in a playoff spot. Yes, it's only game sixteen,
- 28:52Speaker 5: but I said this the other day. And you're getting
- 28:54Speaker 5: to a point now in the NHL over the next
- 28:57Speaker 5: four to five weeks that teams who aren't in playoffs
- 29:01Speaker 5: bots are going to have to start going on these
- 29:04Speaker 5: five to six to seven game runs. And if you're
- 29:06Speaker 5: like Seattle, if you can continue taking four of every
- 29:09Speaker 5: six points, if you can continue winning three out of
- 29:12Speaker 5: every five games, I think you're still going to be
- 29:15Speaker 5: in a spot where you're competing, you know, for playoffs
- 29:18Speaker 5: and for seedings. So this next two weeks before Thanksgiving
- 29:22Speaker 5: are going to be big for Seattle. Some good teams,
- 29:25Speaker 5: some decent travel as well. So I mean it's it's
- 29:28Speaker 5: it's a pretty big stretch coming up for the cracking.
- 29:30Speaker 2: Yeah, holy parody. I mean what You're in a division
- 29:33Speaker 2: of what eight teams and seven of them are five
- 29:36Speaker 2: hundred or better Columbus there, Yeah, go ahead.
- 29:40Speaker 4: I was just like they drew it up.
- 29:41Speaker 5: Who saw the Anaheim Ducks on a seven game winning
- 29:44Speaker 5: streak leading the division second place in the NHL, Right,
- 29:47Speaker 5: the Edmonton Oilers. They do this every single year where
- 29:50Speaker 5: they get off to a very slow start they then
- 29:53Speaker 5: go on a ten, eleven, twelve game run and get
- 29:56Speaker 5: right back into it. But you're right, I mean you
- 29:58Speaker 5: got in the Pacific Division. Of the eight teams, seven
- 30:03Speaker 5: of them are within a point or two of a playoffs.
- 30:06Speaker 5: So this is this is the Paerry that I love
- 30:09Speaker 5: as a fan is a broadcaster. It's nerve wracking because
- 30:12Speaker 5: you love to you know, beat up in the playoffs.
- 30:16Speaker 4: You know, you look at a lot of.
- 30:17Speaker 5: Other sports where these teams jump out to multi game
- 30:22Speaker 5: leads and then they hold on to it. But not
- 30:24Speaker 5: this year. It's every game of the battle and needs
- 30:27Speaker 5: to be needs to be won, especially this season.
- 30:30Speaker 2: You the man, Thank you, sir. We'll talk to you
- 30:31Speaker 2: next week.
- 30:32Speaker 4: All right, fellas, actually have a good one.
- 30:34Speaker 2: Ever fits you. The boys of you are Seattle, cracking
- 30:36Speaker 2: right here on the flag Ship Sports Radio ninety three
- 30:38Speaker 2: point three k j r f M. Again puck drops
- 30:41Speaker 2: at seven o'clock tonight, cracking at home, a Climate Pledge arena,
- 30:44Speaker 2: taking on the Columbus Blue Jackets coming up next. Jed
- 30:48Speaker 2: Fish is adamant. He was yesterday that he's not going anywhere?
- 30:52Speaker 2: Do you believe him? Sports Radio ninety three point three
- 30:55Speaker 2: kJ r f M. Wonderful to see and he has
- 30:58Speaker 2: that like Heimi March and he really gets in like this,
- 31:02Speaker 2: we like to see you happy buckle. Yes. Yeah. We
- 31:08Speaker 2: started the show today talking about Jedfish. He yesterday had
- 31:12Speaker 2: his I don't want to call it the Raffael Palmero
- 31:15Speaker 2: moment because Palmero was lying through his teeth, but he
- 31:18Speaker 2: did have that podium moment where he was like, all right,
- 31:21Speaker 2: enough of this, I'm not going anywhere, And so we
- 31:25Speaker 2: started the show with it, had a really nice conversation
- 31:28Speaker 2: about it. The conversation, of course, is going to continue
- 31:31Speaker 2: no matter what Jed said yesterday, but we didn't play
- 31:34Speaker 2: the actual audio, So here you go. Here's Jedfish yesterday
- 31:37Speaker 2: at his press conference trying to shoot down rumors that
- 31:40Speaker 2: he's not happy at Washington.
- 31:41Speaker 8: I would say those lists are made by people that
- 31:44Speaker 8: have no idea what's going on. Honestly, they don't know
- 31:47Speaker 8: what's happening in our program. They have no idea how
- 31:51Speaker 8: excited I am about the youth in our program. They
- 31:53Speaker 8: have no idea how excited I am about the fact
- 31:56Speaker 8: that we're playing six or seven true freshman No idea
- 31:59Speaker 8: how excited I am about the fact that that Demon
- 32:02Speaker 8: Williams I believe has a chance over the next year
- 32:04Speaker 8: or two years after this to be one of the
- 32:06Speaker 8: all time best quarterbacks that have come through this area.
- 32:11Speaker 8: I don't think that they would know how I enjoyed
- 32:14Speaker 8: coaching here, that we've spent a ton of money into
- 32:17Speaker 8: building this program the way we want to build it,
- 32:19Speaker 8: that I had a great hand in all the facilities.
- 32:23Speaker 2: I was a big part.
- 32:24Speaker 8: Of making the decisions on how we wanted to recreate
- 32:26Speaker 8: this space, to give our players an unbelievable opportunity to
- 32:31Speaker 8: have a recovery room that they never had, working on
- 32:34Speaker 8: making sure that they have the best nutrition they could
- 32:36Speaker 8: possibly have, give them great new meeting rooms, new office
- 32:38Speaker 8: spaces for our coaches. I think, unfortunately what happens is
- 32:41Speaker 8: they just want to tie coaches to lists, and then
- 32:44Speaker 8: we have to sit there and defend it, rather than
- 32:46Speaker 8: just be able to just tell our fans, like our players,
- 32:49Speaker 8: our coaching staff, myself, my family, we love coaching at
- 32:53Speaker 8: the University of Washington. And the ridiculousness of people that
- 32:56Speaker 8: want to claim that because my wife and daughters are
- 32:59Speaker 8: living in Arizona, because I have a sixteen year old
- 33:02Speaker 8: who's been in five different schools in the last eight
- 33:05Speaker 8: years to finish your high school, has anything to do
- 33:07Speaker 8: with my decision, or the ridiculousness of just putting my
- 33:10Speaker 8: name on a list just to do it. Only that
- 33:13Speaker 8: does effect recruiting, It affects our team, it affects our staff.
- 33:17Speaker 8: And my hope is that our players, our coaches, our
- 33:21Speaker 8: families understand how much we love it at Washington.
- 33:23Speaker 2: Jed Fish yesterday, I mean well said, and I hope
- 33:28Speaker 2: it's true. I can't sit here and say I'm believing
- 33:32Speaker 2: every single word of it, and that doesn't have everything
- 33:36Speaker 2: to do with Jed Fish. I'm not sure that I
- 33:38Speaker 2: would trust any head coach in college football. You know,
- 33:43Speaker 2: maybe Dabosweeney. He seems pretty married to Clemson, and he
- 33:47Speaker 2: seems to be pretty honest and genuine with his comments.
- 33:51Speaker 2: But I don't know if I would take anybody in
- 33:54Speaker 2: his spot for their word. There's a lot of smoke here.
- 33:58Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any I would just say
- 34:01Speaker 2: if there is no fire, if he what he is
- 34:04Speaker 2: saying is true, it really does stink for him. Now,
- 34:06Speaker 2: maybe earned it a little bit bucky because he's bounced
- 34:10Speaker 2: around and has been so proud of that sort of
- 34:12Speaker 2: a vagabond of football. But yeah, his job is a
- 34:17Speaker 2: lot more difficult if people are just attaching his names
- 34:20Speaker 2: to this because he's moved around a lot, or because
- 34:24Speaker 2: his daughter is with his wife and their other home
- 34:28Speaker 2: still back in Arizona. It does make his job a
- 34:31Speaker 2: lot more difficult, And so I feel for him if
- 34:34Speaker 2: he's being truthful. Yeah, I'm with you.
- 34:38Speaker 3: I mean, there's no way around it that it's more
- 34:41Speaker 3: makes his life more difficult. Because you said it earlier
- 34:44Speaker 3: that you're recruiting NonStop, whether it's recruiting new kids to come,
- 34:49Speaker 3: or whether it's recruiting the dudes that are here to stay,
- 34:52Speaker 3: or you know, transfers all over the place. It's just
- 34:56Speaker 3: I mean, there's so much that goes into it that
- 34:58Speaker 3: with all of a sudden people cast a doubt as
- 35:01Speaker 3: to whether or not you're going to be here. Then
- 35:03Speaker 3: that makes it more difficult, that's it.
- 35:05Speaker 2: Yeah, makes it so difficult to keep your guys and
- 35:08Speaker 2: to lure others.
- 35:09Speaker 3: Right, if somebody's on the fence of like, boy, I
- 35:12Speaker 3: kind of want to stay because I'm because a coach, right,
- 35:14Speaker 3: Like I want to be loyal to coach.
- 35:16Speaker 2: I kind of want to stay.
- 35:17Speaker 3: But the opportunity to go back to wherever at USC, boy,
- 35:21Speaker 3: that sounds nice if that's home or something like that,
- 35:25Speaker 3: then yeah, you start hearing rumors like this, and maybe
- 35:28Speaker 3: they start entertaining the option of leaving a little bit more.
- 35:31Speaker 3: I think a big thing too, is I think you
- 35:33Speaker 3: know a lot of folks don't want to be used
- 35:35Speaker 3: as a stepping stone, like you dubbed would be pumped about,
- 35:39Speaker 3: you know, having another coach think that there's better opportunity
- 35:43Speaker 3: out there to go somewhere else. Now Alabama to me
- 35:46Speaker 3: and programs he's rumored to go to her Florida and UCLA,
- 35:49Speaker 3: and I don't think those are better programs.
- 35:51Speaker 9: Yeah, UCLA at this moment, Ucla, I would say definitely not.
- 35:55Speaker 3: I would think a lot of people maybe would think
- 35:57Speaker 3: that Florida is not that they're better right now. But
- 36:00Speaker 3: I mean, to me, I think of the Gators as
- 36:03Speaker 3: a true blue bud. But I think you dubs right
- 36:05Speaker 3: there too, So to me, yeah, it's I just don't
- 36:08Speaker 3: think the idea of the university not wanting I think
- 36:11Speaker 3: the university wants him to be like, dude, put your
- 36:13Speaker 3: roots down. Well, he did everything he possibly can besides
- 36:16Speaker 3: make a promise a pinky swear. I'm not going anywhere
- 36:19Speaker 3: I swear. Pinky swear actually bad.
- 36:22Speaker 2: I'd trust him less. Yeah, if you pinky shore.
- 36:25Speaker 9: Well, if he was up there, like I promise, this
- 36:27Speaker 9: is where I want to be. I don't want to
- 36:28Speaker 9: go anywhere else because you can't speak in absolutes in
- 36:30Speaker 9: this day and age in college football. And I think
- 36:32Speaker 9: at that point, okay, you are just saying the things
- 36:34Speaker 9: you think we all want to hear, and then I
- 36:36Speaker 9: wouldn't trust him at all.
- 36:37Speaker 2: All right, Well, we're gonna ask Rick new Eiel about
- 36:40Speaker 2: it next and his thoughts on the entire college football landscape.
- 36:43Speaker 2: It's rankings, Tuesday. After all, it's Chuck and Box Sports
- 36:46Speaker 2: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM,