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DIDDY RUSHED TO HOSPITAL: DANGLED MODEL OFF 17TH FLOOR BALCONY? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Shawn Combs aka Ditty, rushed
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Speaker 1: to the hospital in the dark of night. This coincidentally
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Speaker 1: after kidnaps and Arson's claims added to his sex trafficking indictment.
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Speaker 1: And now we hear he dangled a model off a
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Speaker 1: seventeenth floor balcony. And how have Trump Tower and Justin
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Speaker 1: Bieber been sucked into the Diddy vortex. I'm Nancy Grace,
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Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with US.
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Speaker 2: Prosecutors file a superseding indictment in disgraced rapper and music
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Speaker 2: mogul P Diddy's sex trafficking case, now alleging a conspiracy
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Speaker 2: spanning two decades.
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Speaker 1: A row. Okay, I'm going to get to that superseding
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Speaker 1: indictment in just one moment. Sounds like a lot of
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Speaker 1: Latin legal jargon, which means basically, they added a lot
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Speaker 1: of stuff to the already extensive federal indictment on sex trafficking.
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Speaker 1: I want to get to what we know about Diddy
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Speaker 1: being rushed to the hospital. Listen.
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Speaker 3: Combs rushed to the hospital hours after prosecutor's file a
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Speaker 3: superseding indictment. The rap mogul, now accused of criminal activity
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Speaker 3: spanning two decades and sex trafficking two more victims in
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Speaker 3: addition to ex girlfriend Cassie Venturro. In addition, more alleged
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Speaker 3: victims are coming forward in lawsuits claiming sexual assault at
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Speaker 3: the hands of Combs.
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Speaker 1: Somebody finds out they've got a superseding indictment and suddenly
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Speaker 1: they're knee hurts. Robert Crispin joining me private investigator with
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Speaker 1: Crispin Special Investigations. You last saw him parked outside of
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Speaker 1: Dinny's house in Miami. But for my purposes, former Federal
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Speaker 1: task for for the US Department of Justice DEEA Miami
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Speaker 1: Field division. On and on and on, Robert Crispin, out,
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Speaker 1: my knee hurts. You know what, I don't think there
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Speaker 1: are coincidences in criminal law. So he gets a federal
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Speaker 1: superseding indictment, stuff three inches up his tailpip, and suddenly
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Speaker 1: his knee hurts.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: So I find it interesting that they take him so
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Speaker 5: quickly right after this indictment, and nobody knows what's going on.
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Speaker 4: I mean a lot of.
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Speaker 5: People go to jail, and these take months and months
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Speaker 5: to get botions and releases and security details to get.
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Speaker 4: Someone to the hospital.
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Speaker 5: A knee injury is not like he was in cardiac
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Speaker 5: arrest and needed advanced life support.
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Speaker 4: I find it very very interesting that he got out
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Speaker 4: and he got into the hospital. That's very interesting.
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Speaker 1: Joining me in addition to Robert Crispin basically who just
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Speaker 1: echoed everything I just said. You know what, Chrispin, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to give you time in the corner to think
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Speaker 1: about what you just said. Marjorie here Nandez joining me,
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Speaker 1: West Coast News editor Daily Mail, who has been all
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Speaker 1: over this, host writer of the Daily Mail podcast The
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Speaker 1: Trial of Ditty. Marjorie, Really he gets a superseding federal indictment.
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Speaker 1: First of all, federal indictment bad enough superseding and fantas
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Speaker 1: will jump in on this, probably to fight with me.
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Speaker 1: But superseding means they've been thinking a lot about you,
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Speaker 1: and they're adding facts or even charges to your already
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Speaker 1: existing indictment. Doesn't make my knee hurt. So there are
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Speaker 1: a lot of rumors floating, a lot of reports out
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Speaker 1: there that there are a lot of reasons that Sean
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Speaker 1: Combs aka Ditty aka puff Daddy aka Puffy aka Puff
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Speaker 1: aka Love. I could go on. There are a lot
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Speaker 1: of reasons for hearing that he was raised to the hospital.
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Speaker 1: One being his knee suddenly started hurting. Another is that
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Speaker 1: he got into a fight with an inmate. Another is
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Speaker 1: that he had a diva fit.
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Speaker 6: Which one is it, Marjorie, Well, my sources on the
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Speaker 6: inside said that one his knee had been hurting because
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Speaker 6: he was a marathoner for a few years, and all
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Speaker 6: of a sudden his knee starting put.
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Speaker 1: Her up, put her up. Hey, I have great respect
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Speaker 1: for Daily Mail. Okay, I have great respect for the
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Speaker 1: Trial of Dinny podcast. At Marjorie, you are about to
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Speaker 1: just lose all your credibility. Did you just hear yourself say,
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Speaker 1: don't let me play it back, Marjorie, his knee had
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Speaker 1: been hurting for a while, but then suddenly it really
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Speaker 1: started hurting when he got a superseding indictment.
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Speaker 7: Well, again, in terms of the timing of this.
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Speaker 1: Like you said, it is quite interesting.
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Speaker 7: However, that's what the sources are saying, that it is
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Speaker 7: a knee injury. But we shall see. I mean the
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Speaker 7: fact that again at ten o'clock ten pm last Thursday,
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Speaker 7: he was rushed to the hospital, and from what my
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Speaker 7: sources say, that doesn't happen often. It has to be
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Speaker 7: something an emergency, a cardiac or as something like that
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Speaker 7: has to happen in order for them to actually pluck
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Speaker 7: someone to get them into a facility.
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Speaker 4: In the hospital right away.
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Speaker 1: Again, Majorie made you know how long it took me
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Speaker 1: to get an inmate root canal? Okay, months? The woman
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Speaker 1: was in such pain. I mean, have you ever had
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Speaker 1: a root canal? It hurts like at double l And
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Speaker 1: it took moving heaven and earth to get her to
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Speaker 1: get a root canal. Plus it was out of my juristiction.
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Speaker 1: So it was basically so doctor Dwayne Hendrix, you know
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Speaker 1: what we need to go to the expert on this.
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Speaker 1: I've heard that Comes had a diva fit. I guess
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Speaker 1: he didn't like his hamburger that night, or that he
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Speaker 1: had suddenly a reoccurrence of a knee injury. He's had
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Speaker 1: multiple knee surgeries. But it just really started hurting when
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Speaker 1: he found out about that superseding indictment. Doctor Dwayne Hendricks
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Speaker 1: is joining me, former associate Warden right there at MDC
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Speaker 1: Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, form your senior warden with
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Speaker 1: the US Department of Justice. Oh gosh, it goes on
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Speaker 1: and on. Author of who are you see it? Say
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Speaker 1: it sees it? But I like that you are with
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Speaker 1: the New Daylightfoundation dot com trying to do something positive.
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Speaker 1: But can I talk to you about MDC. Got you
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Speaker 1: gotta go through hell and high water to get out
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Speaker 1: of MDC for a lot of reasons. You think they
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Speaker 1: let l Chapo get out of his pin tentry to
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Speaker 1: go see about his knee. No, he had to dig
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Speaker 1: an underground tunnel and leave on a motorcycle to get
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Speaker 1: out of there. So why isn't Teddy getting raced out
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Speaker 1: in the cover of darkness? We keep hearing? Why does
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Speaker 1: he get the como darkness? Why does he get taken
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Speaker 1: out because he needs an aspirin? Help me, help me,
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Speaker 1: doctor Hendrix.
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Speaker 8: Well, I'll tell you each.
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Speaker 9: Mmate gets a physical within fourteen days of their arrival
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Speaker 9: at any facility.
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Speaker 8: And I'm sure based on reports of.
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Speaker 9: Him having several knee surgeries throughout the years after being
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Speaker 9: a marathoner back in two thousand and three, so this
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Speaker 9: may have been in the works in terms of getting
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Speaker 9: him out for MRI because I know they don't have
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Speaker 9: that equipment at the institution. And I'll just tell you this,
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Speaker 9: they probably had set this appointment up months maybe weeks ago,
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Speaker 9: and they set it up for the e.
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Speaker 1: Leave at one am the cover of darkness. Okay, you
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Speaker 1: think that's what they set up, Hendricks. Look, I know
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Speaker 1: you're being loyal to MDC, but can we get real
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Speaker 1: leaving MDC because your knee hurts? Have you seen that
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Speaker 1: POC technical legal term? You do know about Weinstein? Right?
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Speaker 1: He's got cancer, okay, and he rarely leaves the jail.
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Speaker 1: Did he has a knee pain and he gets taken
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Speaker 1: rushed out in the cloak of darkness? And you think
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Speaker 1: you're trying to tell me, Hendrix with a straight face,
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Speaker 1: that they arranged for him to be rushed out at midnight. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's normal.
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Speaker 8: It's not normal, And you're right, it's not normal.
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Speaker 9: But I can tell you in terms of security, do
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Speaker 9: you want to take him to a regular apployment at
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Speaker 9: two o'clock at one o'clock in the afternoon when there's.
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Speaker 1: Yeah actually yeah, yeah, during business hours? Hey, you know what,
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Speaker 1: I like you, but you cannot have your cake and
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Speaker 1: eat it too. You can sit there and say this
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Speaker 1: was a standard soop appointment and had probably been set
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Speaker 1: up for weeks bs and he said this is a
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Speaker 1: normal which one isn't Hendricks.
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Speaker 8: It's both, It's both.
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Speaker 9: At the end of the day, this probably, I mean,
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Speaker 9: the fact is this guy supposedly had a SPA in
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Speaker 9: his house.
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Speaker 8: He's probably had been getting with sages and.
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Speaker 9: Treatment all the time, and now he's incarcerated, and yeah.
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Speaker 8: He's at the back of the line.
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Speaker 9: I'm sure he was having the problems back in October
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Speaker 9: and November and they probably were just now able.
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Speaker 1: He used to a spa treatment. Gdy doesn't have his
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Speaker 1: personal massuse. Okay, you know again, I'm gonna put you
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Speaker 1: in the corner with Crispin and let you rethink everything
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Speaker 1: that you have just said. Okay, say Marjorie, what is
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Speaker 1: it does? Did he have a little hair fit because
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Speaker 1: he finds out he's got a superseding federal indictment. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'd have to lay down flat and be sedated if
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Speaker 1: I had a federal federal indictment number one, much less
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Speaker 1: this big, bat thick one I've got right here and
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Speaker 1: now it's been superseded more added to it. Did he
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Speaker 1: have a little hair fit? Because nobody can convince me
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Speaker 1: that this was a as doctor Dwayne Hendrix actually fixed
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Speaker 1: his mouth to say, a pre arranged doctor's visit at
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Speaker 1: what three am. I'm talking about you, Hendrix. What about it, Marjorie,
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Speaker 1: what's the truth?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, in terms of that, I mean, it's very uncommon.
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Speaker 7: But and my sources have said that he has been
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Speaker 7: seen by psychologists. So he is having a very hard
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Speaker 7: time for his name.
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, what about he's seeing psychologists. But this
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Speaker 1: is for his knee surgery, right.
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Speaker 7: What they said was that he took an MRI and
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Speaker 7: that's why he took him out in the darkness.
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Speaker 4: But by a psychologist common.
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Speaker 1: No, not by psychologists.
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Speaker 7: He's been seen by psychologists allegedly and other times, but
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Speaker 7: for this particular moment, he was taking out for his knee.
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Speaker 7: But from my understanding, he obviously is not used to
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Speaker 7: being there in the jail and.
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Speaker 1: Put her up place that this was a bother Marjorie. Marjorie,
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Speaker 1: I know you're just telling me what all of your
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Speaker 1: sources are telling you. But he's not used to be
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Speaker 1: in being in jail. Nobody is. Nobody wants to be
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Speaker 1: in jail. That's why they lock it and take away
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Speaker 1: the key. Of course, he's not used to being in jail.
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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, his life was fantastical. We
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Speaker 1: had his pr person on a couple of weeks ago.
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Speaker 1: Can I please see Marjorie. I want to see Marjorie
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Speaker 1: her Nandez. There she is daily mail, Marjorie. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if you heard this, but comes decides at three
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Speaker 1: am he wants cheesecake, and guess what he gets it.
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Speaker 1: Somebody actually goes trumping around Long Island, I think or
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Speaker 1: Manhattan and finds some cheesecake and has to be a
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Speaker 1: particular cheesecake and bring it back to him. Okay, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's not used to being in jail, Marjorie. I agree
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Speaker 1: with that, but to get a special trip out of
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Speaker 1: the jail, so here are the choices. Okay. A diva
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Speaker 1: fit when he finds out about this superseding indictment, has
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Speaker 1: a spat with an inmate, nuts up, or he's afraid
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be epsteined listen Ogel.
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Speaker 10: Sean Diddy Combs is reportedly facing life threatening danger behind bars,
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Speaker 10: fearing a fate similar to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
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Speaker 10: Since Epstein's apparent suicide, conspiracy theories have swirled that the
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Speaker 10: financier was actually killed out of fear he would turn
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Speaker 10: on his inner circle. With high profile secrets on the
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Speaker 10: line and a trial looming, sources claim Diddy is a
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Speaker 10: prime target in prison as he's marked for death to
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Speaker 10: prevent his testimony.
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Speaker 1: Fattus. I know you're on the other side of the fence,
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Speaker 1: to put it mildly as a criminal defense attorney, but
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Speaker 1: can we talk about the serious issue of inmates being
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Speaker 1: murdered behind bars? Okay, so I'm not the first one
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Speaker 1: to report that Comb's fears that he will be epsteined
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Speaker 1: killed behind bars, and then it looks like a suicide.
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Speaker 11: Fattus, what about it, Nancy, This is a very real
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Speaker 11: concern for a number of reasons. One look at the
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Speaker 11: nature of the charges. The first charge is racketeering. That
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Speaker 11: alleged us a criminal enterprise. That's more than one person,
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Speaker 11: that's you multiple affiliates, and so those folks are kind
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Speaker 11: of in the crosshairs. Legally, they do not want Ditty
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Speaker 11: to come and spill the beans or try to place
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Speaker 11: blame on them or disclose activities in which they engage
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Speaker 11: with that were criminal. So certainly they have a motivation
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Speaker 11: and potentially people on the inside that would not be uncommon,
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Speaker 11: and they do not want this information to come out
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Speaker 11: in the open during trial, So could they target did
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Speaker 11: he because of that?
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Speaker 8: Certainly they could.
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Speaker 2: P Didty aka Sean Combs rushed from prison to an
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Speaker 2: emergency room for an MRI after the accused wrapper complains
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Speaker 2: of knee pain.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not going to keep stating the obvious that
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Speaker 1: you only leave the NBC or any facility CI correctional
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Speaker 1: institute if you have a severe andrey like you are dying.
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Speaker 1: So doctor Dwayne and Hendricks joining me former associate a
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Speaker 1: warden at MDC where comes is being housed, former senior
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Speaker 1: warden with the US Department of Justice. Have you had
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Speaker 1: time to pick whether it was sp that he leave
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Speaker 1: at what two three am in the morning and the
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Speaker 1: cover of darkness for an m R I not life
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Speaker 1: threatening or is there something else afoot?
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 9: I still believe that this was something that was pre planned,
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Speaker 9: probably weeks in advanced, especially planning with the hospital staff,
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Speaker 9: because obviously most folks that are doing MRIs are working
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Speaker 9: regular shifts between nine to five or ten or six
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Speaker 9: in the in the evening.
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Speaker 8: So apparently this operation was done, I mean not an operation,
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Speaker 8: but the.
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Speaker 9: Planning to get him out to the hospital for this
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Speaker 9: procedure was done in advance, and also so other inmates
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Speaker 9: wouldn't know that he was leaving, and also have wouldn't
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Speaker 9: be able to call, you know, media or anyone else
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Speaker 9: say hey, you know, p Diddies leaving the institution.
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Speaker 8: He's headed to this hospital and then, you.
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Speaker 9: Know, causing chaos in the facility because at the end
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Speaker 9: of the day, when other folks are there to get
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Speaker 9: to take care of themselves and get their well being
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Speaker 9: in order, the last thing you want is a media
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Speaker 9: media circus at the hospital because folks want to get
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Speaker 9: a photo of mister Coombs because obviously no one's.
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Speaker 8: Seen a picture.
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Speaker 1: So yes, right, So you said it was the inmates.
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Speaker 1: Now you're saying it's people on the outside that might
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Speaker 1: try to get a photo. Okay, I smell waffling, But
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Speaker 1: I think I know why he went to the hospital.
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Speaker 1: I think he had let's just say, he hyperventilated. He
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Speaker 1: had a little diva fit when he found out about.
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Speaker 3: This superseding indictment accusing Combs of trafficking more women. It
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Speaker 3: also extends the timeframe of his alleged racketeering conspiracy. Prosecutors
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Speaker 3: for first accused the Mogul of using Comb's enterprises as
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Speaker 3: a criminal organization as far back as two thousand and eight,
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Speaker 3: but they now alleged the illegal activity began four years earlier,
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Speaker 3: meaning Combs's pattern of abuse has gone on uninterrupted for
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Speaker 3: two decades.
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Speaker 10: The amended indictment expands the list of drugs Combs and
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Speaker 10: his associates are accused of distributing, which initially included cocaine, ketamine,
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Speaker 10: and oxycodone. Now methamphetamine and magic mushrooms have been added
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Speaker 10: to the list of substances. Prosecutors also say he offered
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Speaker 10: the women money and promises to help them advance their
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Speaker 10: career as if they participated in his freak offs.
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Speaker 12: The revised indictment alleges Combs employed kidnapping and arson Prosecutors
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Speaker 12: alleged when Combs felt his authority or reputation was threatened,
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Speaker 12: he and his associates responded with multiple arsons and kidnappings.
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Speaker 12: Prosecutors claim during one such kidnapping, Combs was clearly armed.
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Speaker 1: With a gun. Okay joining me renowned psychologists out of
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Speaker 1: the Manhattan jurisdiction, TV Radio Trump expert consultant at Karenstark
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Speaker 1: dot com. Karen Stark joining us, Karen, that's enough to
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Speaker 1: send me to the hospital on the cover of darkness?
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Speaker 1: Did you hear all that? So coincidentally, right at the
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Speaker 1: same time he gets his extraordinary knee pain from an
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Speaker 1: old injury, he gets a superseding indictment accusing him of
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Speaker 1: trafficking more women. These are not additional charges, they're additional facts, Karen,
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Speaker 1: extending the time of the racketeering. In other words, the
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Speaker 1: sex trafficking to go back two decades, two decades of
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Speaker 1: sex trafficking women against their will, drugging them and raping
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Speaker 1: them on video. That's going to be the charges. So
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Speaker 1: here's about that. And now wait for it that he
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Speaker 1: plied them with cocaine, ketamine and oxycodone, metha, amphetamine, magic, mushrooms,
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Speaker 1: way and arson and kidnap. Yeah, that would make mine hurt,
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Speaker 1: to put it mildly, care and start what are psychosmatic injuries.
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Speaker 13: Psychosomatic injuries are injuries that feel like they're real, but
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Speaker 13: actually they are not real. And it would make a
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Speaker 13: lot of sense to me as a psychologist that he
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Speaker 13: would come up with something like that or exacerbate the
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Speaker 13: fact that he has knee injury when all of these
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Speaker 13: charges are coming out about him, Nancy, because it shows
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Speaker 13: that these things that he did were not isolated incidents.
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Speaker 13: What you see as a pattern of abuse control power
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Speaker 13: that was going on for decades and getting worse over time.
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Speaker 13: So this guy is not just a narcissist, which is
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Speaker 13: bad enough, but he's an antisocial personality. He's evil and
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Speaker 13: he able to get away with it for a long time.
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Speaker 1: You know, the term, Karen Stark, malingering comes to mind.
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Speaker 1: Could you explain what is malingering in your book basically
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Speaker 1: a psychologists bible, the DSM.
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Speaker 13: What's lingering malingering is that he's coming up with things
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Speaker 13: that are not true. That he's saying he has knee
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Speaker 13: pain or he has some other pain, and he keeps
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Speaker 13: talking about it so that he can get away with
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Speaker 13: things that he can get out of there, that he
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Speaker 13: could be hidden for a while.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that just just one moment, doctor Dwayne
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Speaker 1: Hendricks joining me, a former rewarden at MDC. Where comes
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Speaker 1: his house? So, doctor Dwayne Hendrix, just because your knee hurts,
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Speaker 1: you get taken out of the jail. How many other
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Speaker 1: inmates do you believe have knee pain? Probably all of
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Speaker 1: them now?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, and if this was a fact that he was lingering.
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Speaker 9: I mean, it was reported that during the holiday season
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Speaker 9: he had a spast where he was talking about he
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Speaker 9: was having hard palpitations or.
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Speaker 8: Something like that, and he needed to meditate to calm down.
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Speaker 8: In that case, they and.
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Speaker 9: They didn't let him out do it at that for
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Speaker 9: that particular reason. But I honestly believed.
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Speaker 1: That put him. He didn't let him out because he
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Speaker 1: needed to calm down and meditate. How many other inmates
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Speaker 1: are now going to claim, oh, my knee herds, all
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Speaker 1: of them? Why is he getting to go out? What
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Speaker 1: did they take him out in a limousine? Hendrix?
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Speaker 9: No, he took him out in a van, a secure
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Speaker 9: van with him with shackles on his legs and Martin
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Speaker 9: chain and black box around his hands. So he didn't
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Speaker 9: go out on a field trip.
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Speaker 8: I can tell you that he went.
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Speaker 1: Out to meditate. My rear end joining me right now.
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Speaker 1: Bill Wolfe, former Detective in charge of Human traffic king
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Speaker 1: in Northern Virginia, author of Eradicating Human Trafficking, A Transformative
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Speaker 1: Approach to Collective Impact, receive the Presidential Medal for Extraordinary
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Speaker 1: Efforts to Combat Trafficking. Wow. Bill Wolf joining me, So
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Speaker 1: Bill Wolf, too bad he didn't meditate over the last
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Speaker 1: two decades. When he's accused of sex trafficking. Can you
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Speaker 1: explain what sex trafficking does to a victim? Bill Wolf?
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Speaker 4: Absolutely?
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Speaker 14: You know, this guy is just pure evil and absolutely
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Speaker 14: a narcissist. The fact that he can take people humans,
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Speaker 14: especially kid young people, and exploit them for sex and profit,
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Speaker 14: it's just it's absolutely disgusting, and the victims have to
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Speaker 14: live with this for the rest of their lives.
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Speaker 10: I mean, can you.
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Speaker 14: Imagine somebody that's sexually assaulted over and over and over
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Speaker 14: again at the hands of somebody like p Diddy and
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Speaker 14: then have to live with that the trauma for the
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Speaker 14: rest of their lives. It's absolutely apprehensible.
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Speaker 15: The superseding indictment appears to include the allegation from fashion
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Speaker 15: designer Brianna Bongolan that Ditty dangled her over the edge
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Speaker 15: of a seventeenth floor balcony, listing it as just one
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Speaker 15: example of how Combs used force to combat threats to
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Speaker 15: his reputation. Just months after beating Cassie Ventura at the
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Speaker 15: Intercontinental Hotel, Bongolan claims, in intoxicated Combs let himself into
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Speaker 15: Ventura's apartment looking for his girlfriend, but only found Bongolan,
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Speaker 15: who had spent the night there. Enraged did he grabbed
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Speaker 15: Bongolan by the armpits, dangled her off the edge of
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Speaker 15: the balcony and threatened to drop her until Ventura happened
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Speaker 15: to arrive home and put a stop to the incident.
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Speaker 1: Dangling a model off the seventeenth floor balcony. Okay, Marjorie
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Speaker 1: Hernandez joining me, host and writer off the Trial of Ditty,
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Speaker 1: a Daily Mail podcast.
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Speaker 7: What that's one of the more shocking details in Grianna
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Speaker 7: Banna as she's known. He's actually a longtime friend of
24:01
Speaker 7: Cassie and also a fashion designer. So as her claims
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Speaker 7: she also had suon Diddy and the allegations that she
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Speaker 7: was again dangled off the seventeenth floor and Diddy essentially
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Speaker 7: had threatened her life and it was Cassie who essentially
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Speaker 7: stopped him from and famed her. But this is again
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Speaker 7: a pattern, It shows a pattern of his complete control
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Speaker 7: over a lot of these victims, alleged victims.
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Speaker 1: You know, Marjorie, I agree, complete control because that was
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Speaker 1: never reported to police. Two. Robert Crispin joining US private
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Speaker 1: investigator with Crispin Special Investigations, but former Federal Task Force.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a defendant, a suspect, a perp
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Speaker 1: that is so drunk on power they could totally control
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Speaker 1: their victim and they know they'll get away with it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've seen it a lot of times. No, he
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Speaker 5: has no filter when it comes to abusing women, and
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Speaker 5: he is just an animal when it comes to abusing
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Speaker 5: these women, and he thinks he's untouchable, which is allowed.
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Speaker 5: Why a lot of this stuff went unreported because everyone
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Speaker 5: was afraid to take down P.
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Speaker 4: Diddy.
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Speaker 5: Hence why these superseding indictments are such beautiful tools in
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Speaker 5: the federal government Because as the government starts to systematically
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Speaker 5: go through all the witnesses, gaining new witnesses, new witness statements,
25:37
Speaker 5: going through all this evidence, going through these videos, they're
25:41
Speaker 5: starting to build their case and making it bigger and
25:44
Speaker 5: bigger and bigger. Hence why you're starting to see these
25:47
Speaker 5: things are coming forward. So the first indictment got him
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Speaker 5: off the street, which should have happened way before it did.
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Speaker 4: But now these superseding indictments and I hence will.
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Speaker 5: Probably feel that you're going to see probably one or
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Speaker 5: two more coming as they start to talk to more
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Speaker 5: witnesses and they start getting more evidence, and more of
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Speaker 5: the stuff in these videos starts coming out because the
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Speaker 5: timing's perfect for these superseding indictments. They've had time to
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Speaker 5: talk to these witnesses, they've had time to look at
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Speaker 5: these videos. Don't forget they took a lot of footage
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Speaker 5: from both these houses in Miami and in Los Angeles.
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Speaker 5: It's all starting to come together. Diddy's world is crashing
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Speaker 5: and he is in an eight foot cell.
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Speaker 4: He's got no contact with the outside world. He's not
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Speaker 4: used to this, and he's falling apart.
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Speaker 5: And you're about to see a grown man who is
26:37
Speaker 5: an animal towards women become a crying dog in a
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Speaker 5: jail cell.
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Speaker 4: And he is a target in jail.
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Speaker 5: He's a prize for somebody who's doing life, who will
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Speaker 5: kill him if they give him the opportunity.
26:51
Speaker 4: That's a badge of honor. I killed pe Ditty sadly enough.
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Speaker 5: There's a bunch of guards, but not every single person
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Speaker 5: can be watched every single minute of the day.
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Speaker 4: He's absolutely a target, just like Epstein was Autori.
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Speaker 1: That you just said, Crispin is absolutely right, and it's
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Speaker 1: hard for people that have not been in the system
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Speaker 1: to understand that. And I don't want them to understand that.
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Speaker 1: I don't want them to be part of our world.
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Speaker 1: But there are people in the behind bars that would
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Speaker 1: consider it a great honor to murder Diddy. That would
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Speaker 1: be they go down in the history books, right. That's
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Speaker 1: the way they think. It's not the way we think.
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Speaker 1: That's the way they think. I'd like to get back
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Speaker 1: to my original question regarding dangling the allegation that Marjorie
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Speaker 1: Hernandez Dally mill is telling us about dangling this model
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Speaker 1: off a seventeenth floor balcony. Now, many people would argue
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Speaker 1: Eric Faddis, for one defense attorney, that why would he
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Speaker 1: do that that's in public view. He would never do that.
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Speaker 1: See that Cassie Ventura video where Sean Combs is running
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Speaker 1: down the hall chasing Cassie. There she is, She's trying
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Speaker 1: to sneak out the freak off she was sick of. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he doesn't care. There he comes in nothing but a towel,
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Speaker 1: oh excuse me, and a pair of socks and bam, bam.
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Speaker 1: This one of my friends that's seen in Kick Like.
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Speaker 1: She's a football gathering up her stuff and dragging her back.
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Speaker 1: According to her, to the freak off, she was sick
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Speaker 1: of it, she wanted out. She did want to have
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Speaker 1: sex with a group of men on video. And look
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Speaker 1: at this, this is what happens all in public view.
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Speaker 1: So if you, Fatus want to argue to me, well,
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Speaker 1: he would never dangle somebody off a seventeenth floor because
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Speaker 1: it's the public would see it.
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Speaker 11: What about this, Fattus, Well, NISSI, certainly the allegations are serious,
28:55
Speaker 11: but there are some questions that persist about this specific
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Speaker 11: allegation of dangling.
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Speaker 4: Look, it happens nearly a decade ago.
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Speaker 11: My understanding is there was no police involvement at that time,
29:05
Speaker 11: no charges anyway, So it's coming, you know, a decade late,
29:09
Speaker 11: while it's all sensationalized to sort of vilify did he
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Speaker 11: And on top of that, the story doesn't make a
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Speaker 11: ton of sense.
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Speaker 4: Did he come to Cassie's house?
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Speaker 11: Cassie is not there, so as a result, he dangles
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Speaker 11: her friend off of a balcony, and then Cassie all
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Speaker 11: of a sudden just happens to swoop in it exactly
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Speaker 11: at the right time. All of that just seems a
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Speaker 11: little suspect to me, raises some eyebrows and.
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Speaker 1: Really does that same suspect to you that we would
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Speaker 1: run out nothing but a towel and beat Cassie Ventura
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Speaker 1: in a public hallway. Right if it weren't on video,
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Speaker 1: you wouldn't believe it. You'd be making these same arguments
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Speaker 1: then that you're making right now about dangling this model
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Speaker 1: off a balcony allegedly, same argument, second verse, same as
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Speaker 1: the first fadest.
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Speaker 11: Well, we're talking about is evidence. We're talking about what's provable.
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Speaker 11: So with the Cassie incident, surely there is a video.
29:57
Speaker 11: Now there's been some editing to that video. If you look,
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Speaker 11: she walks out without shoes and then all of a
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Speaker 11: sudden the elevator she has shoes on. So it's uh,
30:06
Speaker 11: it's a.
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Speaker 1: Difference crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 8: So chet this out, yo.
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Speaker 16: Justin he's in you ever seen the movie forty eight Hours?
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Speaker 16: Right now he's having forty eight hours with Diddy, him
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Speaker 16: and his boy. They're having the times of their lives,
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Speaker 16: like like like you know, where we're hanging out and
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Speaker 16: what we're doing. We we can't really disclose, but it's
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Speaker 16: definitely a fifteen year old dream. You know I have
30:44
Speaker 16: been given custody of him. You know he signed the Usher.
30:48
Speaker 16: I had legal guardianship of Usher when when you know
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Speaker 16: he did his first album, I did Usher's first album.
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Speaker 16: I don't really I don't have legal guardianship of him.
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Speaker 16: But for the next forty eight hours he's with me.
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Speaker 16: So yeah, and we're gonna go full b full crazy.
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Speaker 4: Gone crazy.
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Speaker 1: That from Justin Bieber's YouTube page. Oh Dear Lord in Heaven,
31:13
Speaker 1: why would Shawn Comes have custody of Usher when he
31:17
Speaker 1: was a minor? And why would Shawn Comes be handed
31:21
Speaker 1: over on a silver platter? Justin Bieber? I mean in
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Speaker 1: that picture he looks like he's ten years old in
31:29
Speaker 1: that video from his uh his own social to Marjorie
31:33
Speaker 1: Hernandez joining US West Coast News editor Daily Mail and
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Speaker 1: host and writer at the of the Trial of Diddy podcast?
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Speaker 1: How has Justin Bieber and Trump Towers? But let's start
31:46
Speaker 1: with Bieber been pulled into Shawn Comes aka Diddy's Vortex. Well,
31:53
Speaker 1: recent footage of Justin.
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Speaker 7: Wandering around Los Angeles. He does not look well at all,
31:58
Speaker 7: and a lot of people have suspected it's because of
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Speaker 7: his name being dragged into this drama with Diddy, and
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Speaker 7: you know, seeing those old videos now it's really haunting
32:08
Speaker 7: to see such a young Justin uh, you know, essentially
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Speaker 7: be turned over to Ditty and have Diddy again having
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Speaker 7: control over such a young and impressionable Justin Bieber. And
32:21
Speaker 7: now it seems like all of this trauma is resurfacing.
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Speaker 7: He does not look well in some of the footage
32:27
Speaker 7: that we've recently seen.
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Speaker 12: Uh.
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Speaker 7: There was also this drama about him and following his
32:32
Speaker 7: wife on Instagram. Yet the interesting point he still follows Diddy,
32:39
Speaker 7: so we're not sure what's going on there, but it
32:41
Speaker 7: does seem like he is unwell.
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Speaker 1: Marjorie, can you imagine going to the grocery store on
32:49
Speaker 1: your worst day. Let's just say, no hair, no makeup,
32:53
Speaker 1: You're wearing sweatpants, you think you have sunglasses when you
32:56
Speaker 1: get in the car, on a hat, but then you
32:58
Speaker 1: find out you don't. You hear sticks straight up. Of course,
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Speaker 1: yours would never look like that, because you're perfect. I would.
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Speaker 1: And then to see somebody just swooping in and taking
33:08
Speaker 1: your picture and then selling it where you look horrible
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Speaker 1: and you feel horrible. Let's just throw in that you
33:15
Speaker 1: have the flu? Why can't people leave Justin Bieber alone.
33:22
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just had a baby with his wife.
33:27
Speaker 1: That's a big transition. Okay. I had twins at once,
33:31
Speaker 1: and they woke up at night twelve thirty, one thirty,
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Speaker 1: three thirty, and four thirty and by the last four
33:38
Speaker 1: thirty feeding I scot up and that was it. For
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Speaker 1: the rest of the day. They were not on the
33:42
Speaker 1: same schedule. That's a hard time. No matter how happy
33:46
Speaker 1: you are about the baby, no matter how much you
33:48
Speaker 1: love the baby and it's your whole whole world, it's
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Speaker 1: still hard. Okay, much less working as I know that
33:57
Speaker 1: he is. And so people get shot him or he
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Speaker 1: looks bad, Yes he looks bad, but the Diddy thing
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Speaker 1: on top of it, How has he gotten sucked into
34:09
Speaker 1: the Diddy vortex? Are people trying to claim he was
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Speaker 1: part of the freak offs? He's not named as a
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Speaker 1: co defendant or an underded, a co conspirator, or even
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Speaker 1: a witness. I don't believe. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Speaker 1: He's on the witness list. So why is this a
34:22
Speaker 1: name always connected with Sean Combs.
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Speaker 7: You know, there's allegations out there that he was also
34:29
Speaker 7: assaulted by Sean Combs, and that you know, because of
34:34
Speaker 7: his proximity Sean Combs for years and years since he
34:37
Speaker 7: was a child. As he saw in that video, it
34:40
Speaker 7: did start breaking the sea. Now that name is again
34:44
Speaker 7: being pulled back into this sportext as you said of Diddy,
34:48
Speaker 7: but there has been rumors that there are videos of
34:52
Speaker 7: him justed being possibly assaulted by Combs.
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Speaker 1: That's a lot of possibly a led to rumors. I'm
35:01
Speaker 1: not paying any attention to any of that. I would
35:05
Speaker 1: just ask that people leave Biber alone in a new marriage,
35:11
Speaker 1: a new baby, working in his career. Now he can't
35:15
Speaker 1: even go out and get a pack of cigarettes without
35:18
Speaker 1: being onlmbasted. But it's not just Bieber who's gotten sucked
35:24
Speaker 1: into this, I'm sure against his will. Now Trump Tower
35:28
Speaker 1: is dragged in and listen.
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Speaker 15: Doe alleged she attended a party hosted by Combs at
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Speaker 15: the club, and group sex was part of the experience
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Speaker 15: on three of the building's five floors. When Doe attempts
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Speaker 15: to leave, Comb's allegedly coerces her into going with them
35:42
Speaker 15: to the Midtown Manhattan Trump Hotel.
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Speaker 2: On arrival, Doe is again.
35:46
Speaker 15: Given a drink she believes was laced with drugs, then
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Speaker 15: raped by Comb's associates at his direction for several hours.
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Speaker 1: Okay, some people may find that fantastical, but there is
35:56
Speaker 1: another witness who says essentially the same thing.
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Speaker 3: The second Jane Doe's lawsuit contains very similar allegations sexual
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Speaker 3: assaults stemming from parties at the Limelight. After a second
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Speaker 3: Limelight party, Doe says, Combs and a security guard drove
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Speaker 3: her to the Trump Hotel, forced you to take drugs
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Speaker 3: in the penthouse suite, then Combs instructed the security guard
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Speaker 3: to sexually assault her.
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Speaker 1: Bill Wolfe joining me, anti sex trafficking expert and author
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Speaker 1: of Eradicating Human Trafficking Bill, this is what I find
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Speaker 1: very striking. You have alleged victims separated in time and space,
36:36
Speaker 1: saying the same thing. Okay, and it's just a lot
36:39
Speaker 1: of people have attacked Tony Busby the civil attorney who's
36:42
Speaker 1: representing a lot of these alleged victims. But I find
36:45
Speaker 1: it difficult to believe that these women would go and
36:49
Speaker 1: interview with the Feds and stick with a lie. Okay,
36:53
Speaker 1: Yet their statements are startlingly similar, which in my mind
36:58
Speaker 1: makes them credible. The same story over and over and
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Speaker 1: over Bill Wolf, It's very hard to argue this didn't
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Speaker 1: happen with so many witnesses saying the very same thing.
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Speaker 14: I completely agree. I can tell you from my experience
37:13
Speaker 14: as both an investigator and working with so many survivors.
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Speaker 14: You know, sometimes these stories sound fantastical, right, like there's
37:21
Speaker 14: no way that that could have happened. But the reality is,
37:23
Speaker 14: in the world of sex trafficking, these things happened over
37:27
Speaker 14: and over and over again, And I think you're absolutely right.
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Speaker 14: It lends a lot of credibility when you're hearing the
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Speaker 14: same tactics and methods of control and abuse and torture
37:38
Speaker 14: that are being used by the trafficker over and over again.
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Speaker 14: I mean, I've heard so many stories from survivors. I
37:45
Speaker 14: mean things is as crazy as taking victims and putting
37:50
Speaker 14: them in mini fridges in hotels as a form of punishment,
37:54
Speaker 14: and closing the door so it was airtight, right, these things.
37:57
Speaker 14: People can't even sath them that these things happened. But unfortunately,
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Speaker 14: in the United States of America, this is happening every
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Speaker 14: single day.
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Speaker 3: Attorney Mark Agnifilo says prosecutors are being ridiculous. The two
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Speaker 3: women in question were not prostitutes, but former girlfriends, Combs
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Speaker 3: and Agnifilo say they look forward to proving in court
38:18
Speaker 3: that no one was trafficked and no one participated in
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Speaker 3: sex acts they did not consent to.
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Speaker 1: So the defense here is they were not prostitutes. That's
38:29
Speaker 1: the defense. Robert Crispin, how many criminals have we helped
38:35
Speaker 1: put behind bars? And they always do the same thing
38:41
Speaker 1: over and ever. Yes, this alleged victim is a male,
38:45
Speaker 1: but it's the same story. I went to a party,
38:49
Speaker 1: or I went to further my career, I had a drink,
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Speaker 1: I passed out, I wake up, my rear end hurts.
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Speaker 1: That's what happens over and over again.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the common theme, isn't And they're all pretty
39:01
Speaker 5: much the exact same.
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Speaker 8: And you know, Nancy, you've been.
39:04
Speaker 5: In a grand jury. I've been in a grand jury
39:06
Speaker 5: and we've sat in them and listen. There was a
39:09
Speaker 5: lot of testimony from each one of these witnesses to
39:13
Speaker 5: that jury panel that was very convincing that what happened
39:18
Speaker 5: to them was criminal, and what happened to them showed
39:22
Speaker 5: that this racketeering u Rico thing started well before the
39:27
Speaker 5: indictment states, so it brought it back now to what
39:30
Speaker 5: two thousand and four, So these people just didn't go
39:33
Speaker 5: in and say one or two things. Grand Jury is
39:36
Speaker 5: a lot of people, and you do a lot of talking,
39:39
Speaker 5: and you have to convince these people that it actually happened.
39:44
Speaker 5: And they rate you and they look at you and
39:46
Speaker 5: they see if they believe you.
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Speaker 4: They don't just listen to you.
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Speaker 1: But I'm so glad you mentioned that this indictment, it's
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Speaker 1: not just the Feds from a federal grand jury. And
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Speaker 1: as you said, you've sat in. I've conducted grand jury
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Speaker 1: seedings before for years, and there's somewhere between twenty and
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Speaker 1: forty grand gurrrs secret grand your rs, and they are
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Speaker 1: the ones that say yay or nay to an indictment.
40:13
Speaker 1: They either hand down a true bill or a no
40:16
Speaker 1: bill in dit or don't indict. And they have the
40:20
Speaker 1: opportunity and they do it of questioning each and every witness.
40:24
Speaker 1: And they're not questions you can prepare for like you
40:27
Speaker 1: can put up across a direct because you're in control
40:31
Speaker 1: of those questions. When you open up the floor to
40:33
Speaker 1: forty people from all walks of life, there's no telling
40:37
Speaker 1: what question they're gonna ask. And the witness has to
40:40
Speaker 1: respond then contemporaneously with the question. They can go, oh,
40:45
Speaker 1: can I ask my lawyer? No, you have to answer then,
40:48
Speaker 1: and they had that opportunity before handing down the superseding indictment.
40:52
Speaker 1: Isn't that true, Crispin?
40:53
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
40:54
Speaker 5: And how many people have testified in front of the
40:55
Speaker 5: grand jury and they come back.
40:57
Speaker 4: With a no true bill?
40:58
Speaker 5: So you know, or we're not indicting, I should say,
41:02
Speaker 5: but obviously that didn't happen here.
41:04
Speaker 4: But yes, you're right.
41:05
Speaker 5: There's a lot of people, a lot of talking, a
41:08
Speaker 5: lot of questions, a lot of credibility checking. These people
41:12
Speaker 5: are reading these people as well. They're everyday people just
41:15
Speaker 5: like you and I and everybody else out there.
41:18
Speaker 8: And people are stupid.
41:20
Speaker 4: They can look at people and they can read people.
41:23
Speaker 4: And they're in grand jury for come for five minutes.
41:25
Speaker 5: They're in there for a little bit of time, and
41:27
Speaker 5: these people are looking at them and they're sizing them
41:29
Speaker 5: up because they need to render a true bill or
41:33
Speaker 5: a no true bill.
41:34
Speaker 4: They need to authorize a superseding indictment or not.
41:38
Speaker 5: So my opinion in what just happened with these new
41:42
Speaker 5: witnesses and bringing this back in another four years These are.
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Speaker 4: Some pretty damn good credible witnesses.
41:48
Speaker 1: I tell you this, I bet he did get any pain.
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Speaker 1: We wait as just to sun Falls. Goodbye rand Boo