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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04Speaker 1: When it comes to Bill Clinton and his relationship with
- 0:07Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, for me, the biggest problem is how untruthful
- 0:11Speaker 1: Bill Clinton has been about that relationship. These guys were
- 0:16Speaker 1: obviously relatively close. And while I have never once said
- 0:21Speaker 1: that I think that Bill Clinton was abusing girls with
- 0:23Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, there is no doubt that Bill Clinton acted
- 0:28Speaker 1: as a vehicle for Jeffrey Epstein to help rebuild his image,
- 0:32Speaker 1: and not only that, but to open some doors that
- 0:35Speaker 1: would have never been available to him unless he was
- 0:37Speaker 1: with Bill Clinton. So when we talk about being an enabler,
- 0:42Speaker 1: when we talk about somebody who has helped Jeffrey Epstein
- 0:45Speaker 1: along the way, there is no doubt that Bill Clinton
- 0:48Speaker 1: is in that conversation, and he's right at the top
- 0:51Speaker 1: of the list. And in this episode, we're going to
- 0:53Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about that relationship and the
- 0:55Speaker 1: receipts that go along with it. Today's article is from
- 0:59Speaker 1: the Email and the headline Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton's
- 1:03Speaker 1: Curious friendship. Late pedophile hung portrait of cross dressing Bill
- 1:08Speaker 1: in his eighty eight million dollar Manhattan Lair made seventeen
- 1:11Speaker 1: visits to the White House and flew President twenty six
- 1:14Speaker 1: times on his private jet. So does anybody want to
- 1:18Speaker 1: discuss any of that? I mean kind of important, right,
- 1:21Speaker 1: Why in the hell would Jeffrey Epstein be going to
- 1:24Speaker 1: the White House? And if you have a legitimate reason,
- 1:27Speaker 1: let's hear it. My biggest problem, like I just said,
- 1:30Speaker 1: is that Bill Clinton has not answered any real questions.
- 1:34Speaker 1: And don't refer me to that dumbass statement from twenty nineteen.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Talk about archaic it might as well be the dead
- 1:40Speaker 1: Sea scrolls at this point. And with all of the
- 1:43Speaker 1: developments since the time that that statement was put out,
- 1:45Speaker 1: don't you think that it would be the proper move
- 1:48Speaker 1: to go back, look at that statement, readjust it, and
- 1:52Speaker 1: maybe release a new one. But unfortunately, the legacy media
- 1:55Speaker 1: will never force Bill Clinton's hand. And just like they
- 1:58Speaker 1: needed a little help to their buddy Jeffrey Epstein, they're
- 2:01Speaker 1: gonna need a little help along the way here to
- 2:03Speaker 1: out there buddy Bill Clinton. So why don't we help
- 2:06Speaker 1: them along their way and give them that little bit
- 2:09Speaker 1: of a push. This article was authored by Ben Ashford,
- 2:14Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's influential friends and the lad acquaintances are being
- 2:18Speaker 1: unmasked for the first time in newly unsealed court filings.
- 2:22Speaker 1: But one name stands out among the glittering array of politicians,
- 2:26Speaker 1: Hollywood stars and royalty. That of William Jefferson Clinton, the
- 2:31Speaker 1: forty second President of the United States. And remember, it's
- 2:34Speaker 1: not just because of a comment Bill Clinton made talking about,
- 2:37Speaker 1: oh yeah, Jeff's a great guy, not just any comments,
- 2:40Speaker 1: not just some innuendo. Because they were in a picture together.
- 2:44Speaker 1: These guys were obviously pretty tight. And the question is
- 2:48Speaker 1: how come they were tight, What were they doing, what
- 2:51Speaker 1: was their business associations, and also what about the financials.
- 2:55Speaker 1: How much money did Jeffrey Epstein pony over to Bill
- 2:58Speaker 1: Clinton and his foundations? That's a pretty interesting question. No.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Clinton has been linked to the late child sex predator
- 3:05Speaker 1: for decades and features more than seventy times in documents
- 3:09Speaker 1: finally made public this week by Judge Loretta Presca. The
- 3:13Speaker 1: seventy seven year old Democrat claims the pair were barely buddies,
- 3:17Speaker 1: denies knowledge of Epstein's sex trafficking network, and insists he
- 3:21Speaker 1: never set foot on Little Saint James, nicknamed Peto Island,
- 3:25Speaker 1: and the setting for multiple bouts of sexual abuse. However,
- 3:29Speaker 1: as daily mail dot Com documents, their relationship stretches back
- 3:33Speaker 1: to Clinton's days in the White House, and the two
- 3:36Speaker 1: men were once close enough for the former leader of
- 3:38Speaker 1: the Free World to accept repeated trips to Epstein's private jet.
- 3:43Speaker 1: Newly redacted files included in the release of documents this
- 3:47Speaker 1: week have also unveiled the extraordinary claim that the President
- 3:51Speaker 1: once even went as far as to threaten a magazine
- 3:54Speaker 1: not to write sex trafficking articles about his good friend. Now,
- 3:58Speaker 1: I don't know how much I believe that it's possible, right,
- 4:01Speaker 1: very possible, But we definitely know that Jeffrey Epstein he
- 4:05Speaker 1: threatened Vanity Fair. He called over there and told them
- 4:08Speaker 1: the deal, and after Epstein flexed on him, Graydon Carter
- 4:11Speaker 1: decided not to run the piece. New docs, new questions.
- 4:16Speaker 1: The specter of Jeffrey Epstein returned to haunt the Clinton's
- 4:19Speaker 1: this week, when Bill's name appeared more than seventy times
- 4:23Speaker 1: on newly unsealed court papers. The former president was among
- 4:27Speaker 1: dozens of Epstein's associates unmasked in a vast document drop
- 4:31Speaker 1: from the twenty fifteen Glenn Maxwell Virginia Roberts defamation case.
- 4:36Speaker 1: According to Roberts lawyers, Bubba was a key person in
- 4:39Speaker 1: the lives of the dead financier and his former lover,
- 4:42Speaker 1: and the trio enjoyed a close relationship. I don't know
- 4:45Speaker 1: how anyone can doubt this or deny it. We all
- 4:48Speaker 1: know how tight they were. What you just get invited
- 4:51Speaker 1: to somebody's wedding, their daughter's wedding if you're not tight.
- 4:54Speaker 1: Somebody just has a picture of you on the wall
- 4:56Speaker 1: wearing a blue dress if you're not tight. So all
- 4:59Speaker 1: this bs about Bill Clinton not really knowing Epstein, not
- 5:02Speaker 1: being close to him, not hanging out with him, having
- 5:06Speaker 1: no idea about anything. None of that tracks. And even
- 5:09Speaker 1: in the undeniable face of proof about the relationship between
- 5:12Speaker 1: Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein, the legacy media they just
- 5:16Speaker 1: have no desire to report the facts. Instead, they just
- 5:19Speaker 1: keep whitewashing things and making up excuses, Oh well, Bill
- 5:23Speaker 1: Clinton wasn't involved in the abuse, as if there aren't
- 5:26Speaker 1: levels to this shit, As if Bill Clinton's involvement wasn't
- 5:29Speaker 1: a huge boon for Jeffrey Epstein's abuse. It most certainly was.
- 5:33Speaker 1: And that's not me telling you that that's all the survivors,
- 5:36Speaker 1: and that's everybody who was involved. So at what point
- 5:39Speaker 1: does Bill Clinton get abandoned by the Democratic establishment and
- 5:44Speaker 1: when is he forced to answer some questions. Roberts attorneys
- 5:48Speaker 1: even sought to depose him in one especially incendiary filing.
- 5:52Speaker 1: In a twenty sixteen deposition from another Epstein victim, Johanna Schoberg,
- 5:57Speaker 1: she recalls the dead predator, telling her Clinton likes them young,
- 6:01Speaker 1: referring to girls. Well, that's not a shock considering what
- 6:04Speaker 1: happened with Monica Lewinsky. We all know that he likes
- 6:06Speaker 1: him young. As far as abusing girls with Epstein, though
- 6:09Speaker 1: so far I have not seen any proof of that.
- 6:12Speaker 1: Ask what she knew about Epstein's friendship with Clinton, Schoberg said,
- 6:16Speaker 1: I knew he had dealings with Bill Clinton. However, she
- 6:19Speaker 1: never met Clinton and never saw him on Little Saint James.
- 6:23Speaker 1: Her testimony added in other documents, Roberts makes the colorful
- 6:27Speaker 1: claim that Clinton wants intervened to stop a magazine expose
- 6:32Speaker 1: about Epstein. Maxwell's lawyers asked Roberts about a twenty eleven
- 6:37Speaker 1: email exchange she had with a reporter friend in which
- 6:40Speaker 1: they discuss the merits of selling her now infamous photo
- 6:43Speaker 1: with Prince Andrew to Vanity Fair. As they spar over
- 6:47Speaker 1: her recollection of the messages, Roberts replies, it does concern
- 6:51Speaker 1: me that they could want to write about me, considering
- 6:53Speaker 1: that be Clinton walked into VF and threatened them not
- 6:57Speaker 1: to write sex trafficking articles about his good friend Jaye.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Since the papers were released, former Vanity Fair editor Graydon
- 7:04Speaker 1: Carter has said the incident categorically did not happen. In
- 7:08Speaker 1: her own deposition, Maxwell fifty said the claim that Clinton
- 7:12Speaker 1: had a meal on Epstein's island was one hundred percent false.
- 7:15Speaker 1: Clinton denies any wrongdoing. Well, considering Glenn Maxwell is a
- 7:21Speaker 1: known human trafficker and has been indicted for perjury, I
- 7:25Speaker 1: wouldn't exactly call her a reliable narrator. Clinton in the frame.
- 7:30Speaker 1: They say that a picture speaks one thousand words, but
- 7:33Speaker 1: anyone who stumbled across Jeffrey Epstein's peculiar life size portrait
- 7:38Speaker 1: of a cross dressing Bill Clinton would be more likely
- 7:40Speaker 1: to be left speechless. The bizarro artwork depicted the former
- 7:44Speaker 1: commander in chief lounging on a chair in the Oval
- 7:47Speaker 1: office in blood red heels and a figure hugging blue dress.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Now ask yourselves, why in the fuck would he have
- 7:54Speaker 1: this picture on the wall. What is he looking to prove?
- 7:57Speaker 1: Who is he looking to impress? And why is Bill
- 8:00Speaker 1: Bill Clinton in a dress and some heels being put
- 8:03Speaker 1: up there and showcased. You would think that Bill Clinton
- 8:07Speaker 1: wouldn't be happy with that, right, Hey, Jeffrey, get that
- 8:09Speaker 1: shit off your wall? Or is it that Jeffrey and
- 8:12Speaker 1: him are so close it didn't matter. Oh that's just Jeffrey.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Oh shucks, he's my pal. I mean, for real, look
- 8:19Speaker 1: at all the craziness about alex Acosta. Imagine if alex
- 8:23Speaker 1: Acosta had his picture hanging on the wall at Jeffrey
- 8:25Speaker 1: Epstein's forget it. Imagine if Trump did. Imagine if anybody did.
- 8:29Speaker 1: But since it's Bill Clinton, it's just a coincidence. It's
- 8:32Speaker 1: no big deal. It's just art. His kookie outfit was
- 8:36Speaker 1: strikingly similar to the one worn by Hillary out of
- 8:39Speaker 1: two thousand and nine Galla dinner for Kennedy Center hon Rees.
- 8:43Speaker 1: The painting was called Parsing Bill and was created in
- 8:47Speaker 1: twenty twelve by fledgling Australian American artist Patrina Ryan Clyde.
- 8:52Speaker 1: It's not clear whether Epstein on the original or a print,
- 8:56Speaker 1: but it was spotted hanging up inside the Pedophiles fifty
- 8:59Speaker 1: six million New York townhouse in October of that year.
- 9:03Speaker 1: It was absolutely Bill Clinton. It was shocking. It was
- 9:06Speaker 1: definitely a painting of him, a source reveal to Daily
- 9:09Speaker 1: mail dot com when we revealed the portrait's existence in
- 9:12Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. It was very provocative, a sexual picture. He
- 9:17Speaker 1: was wearing heels, a blue dress and his hand was
- 9:20Speaker 1: in a weird position. Quite why Epstein, who hanged himself
- 9:23Speaker 1: in prison in August of twenty nineteen, allegedly would have
- 9:27Speaker 1: such a lurid likeness of the former president in his
- 9:30Speaker 1: home has been open to much speculation, and again, if
- 9:34Speaker 1: Bill Clinton wants to end the speculation, it's pretty simple.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Come out and give a real answer about what happened here.
- 9:41Speaker 1: Don't give us a stupid ass canned statement from your associate.
- 9:45Speaker 1: You come out and you tell us what the fuck's
- 9:47Speaker 1: going on here and why he has this picture of you.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Imagine if I knew some horrible dark secrets about you,
- 9:55Speaker 1: and you came over to my house and I have
- 9:56Speaker 1: a giant painting of you. Joe Rogan joked about on
- 9:59Speaker 1: his podcast, asked, right, when you walk into the front
- 10:01Speaker 1: door of you in address, and I'm like, hey, buddy,
- 10:06Speaker 1: I mean that pretty much sums it up right. There's
- 10:08Speaker 1: no reason in the whole world for that to even occur.
- 10:11Speaker 1: I have a lot of really good friends, and I
- 10:13Speaker 1: don't have any pictures of them in dresses, and I
- 10:16Speaker 1: certainly don't have him hanging on my wall. So what
- 10:18Speaker 1: the fuck is the deal here? And why was this
- 10:20Speaker 1: picture of Bill Clinton prominently hung on the wall? Epstein
- 10:25Speaker 1: went from university dropout to mercurial money manager, acquiring all
- 10:29Speaker 1: the trapings of a billionaire playboy, from majestic homes in
- 10:33Speaker 1: New York, New Mexico, and Palm Beach, Florida, to his
- 10:36Speaker 1: own Caribbean island. Along the way, the now notorious pedophile
- 10:40Speaker 1: acquired scores of influential friends, many of whom were listed
- 10:44Speaker 1: in his little Black Book of Contacts, where he noted
- 10:47Speaker 1: down twenty numbers and addresses for Clinton, and despite repeatedly
- 10:52Speaker 1: distancing himself from the child predator and his crimes, Clinton
- 10:56Speaker 1: was close enough to accept dozens of flights on Epstein's
- 10:58Speaker 1: private jet, notorious nicknamed the Lolita Express, and We also
- 11:03Speaker 1: heard back in the day that Bill Clinton had a
- 11:05Speaker 1: special seat on this plane. So let's not act like
- 11:08Speaker 1: Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein didn't have a very, very
- 11:12Speaker 1: tight relationship. They most certainly did. What you should really
- 11:15Speaker 1: ask yourself is why these activists journalists have refused to
- 11:18Speaker 1: give you the real deal. Flight log show that Clinton
- 11:22Speaker 1: flew on the Boeing seven twenty seven tri jet on
- 11:26Speaker 1: twenty six occasions, traveling to an array of exotic locations
- 11:30Speaker 1: including Brunei, Norway, Russia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan, the Azores, Africa, Belgium, China,
- 11:36Speaker 1: and New York. Five trips on the plane. Huh is
- 11:40Speaker 1: anybody else disgusted that Bill Clinton hasn't been called onto
- 11:44Speaker 1: the carpet? I mean for real, and again, look, just
- 11:47Speaker 1: to be clear, I'm not alleging that he took part
- 11:49Speaker 1: in the abuse. What I'm saying is why won't he
- 11:52Speaker 1: give any answers about what went down, what did he see,
- 11:55Speaker 1: who was there, who was he paling around with, what
- 11:57Speaker 1: was he doing with? Epstein? Answered any of these questions?
- 12:01Speaker 1: And I don't want to hear shit about that stupid
- 12:03Speaker 1: statement from twenty nineteen. You better come out with something new.
- 12:08Speaker 1: Dailymail dot Com published never before seen images of the
- 12:11Speaker 1: forty second president of the United States receiving a neck
- 12:15Speaker 1: and shoulder massage from Epstein victim Shante Davies during a
- 12:19Speaker 1: stopover in two thousand and two. So this man was
- 12:22Speaker 1: getting a massage from somebody who was being actively trafficked
- 12:26Speaker 1: at the time, and I'm the asshole because I want
- 12:28Speaker 1: to bring it up and talk about that. I'm the
- 12:30Speaker 1: asshole because I want Bill Clinton called out on the carpet.
- 12:34Speaker 1: Here's an idea. Quit playing dumbass politics and hold everybody
- 12:38Speaker 1: who was involved to account. Hold everybody to the same standard,
- 12:42Speaker 1: and nobody, not even your fave billy boy Clinton, should
- 12:46Speaker 1: have a different standard to which he is held. Davies,
- 12:50Speaker 1: then a twenty two year old massage therapist who claims
- 12:53Speaker 1: she was recruited into Epstein's circle by Glenn Maxwell before
- 12:57Speaker 1: being raped and abused, insisted that Clinton was charming and
- 13:00Speaker 1: sweet on the humanitarian trip to Africa that also included
- 13:04Speaker 1: Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker. Although the image looks bizarre,
- 13:09Speaker 1: President Clinton was a perfect gentleman during the trip and
- 13:12Speaker 1: I saw absolutely no foul play involving him. She recalled,
- 13:16Speaker 1: and this is what I based my comments on. Bill
- 13:18Speaker 1: Clinton was never accused of any sort of foul play
- 13:22Speaker 1: when it comes to hurting these girls or abusing these
- 13:26Speaker 1: girls that were under Epstein's influence. Instead, for Bill Clinton,
- 13:31Speaker 1: it's a different level the enabling and the doors that
- 13:35Speaker 1: he was opening up while he was hanging around with
- 13:37Speaker 1: this dude, and Bill Clinton has to answer for it.
- 13:41Speaker 1: Clinton's camp insists he took a total of four trips
- 13:43Speaker 1: from two thousand and two to two thousand and three
- 13:46Speaker 1: on Epstein's aircraft, which last flew in twenty sixteen and
- 13:51Speaker 1: is slowly corroding at an airfield in Brunswick, Georgia. West
- 13:54Speaker 1: Wing regular Bill Clinton owned up to six meetings with
- 13:58Speaker 1: Epstein dating back to two These include the four flights
- 14:02Speaker 1: on Epstein's plane, a visit to his Harlem office, and
- 14:05Speaker 1: a brief appearance at the pedophile's New York home. So
- 14:08Speaker 1: this is what he owned up to, and we know
- 14:10Speaker 1: it's a lot more so, if you owned up to
- 14:13Speaker 1: only a few of the trips, what are you trying
- 14:14Speaker 1: to hide? And really that's the whole entire crux of
- 14:17Speaker 1: my argument. What the hell is Bill Clinton trying to hide?
- 14:20Speaker 1: And why is he trying to hide it? However, as
- 14:23Speaker 1: Deli Mel previously revealed, Epstein enjoyed extraordinary access to the
- 14:27Speaker 1: White House throughout the Clinton administration nearly a decade earlier.
- 14:31Speaker 1: The deep pocketed predator stopped by the West Wing just
- 14:35Speaker 1: a month after Clinton's inauguration in January nineteen ninety three,
- 14:39Speaker 1: the first of seventeen visits in three years. During his visits,
- 14:43Speaker 1: he took eight different women with them. The logs identify
- 14:46Speaker 1: them as Maxwell, who at the time was thirty two,
- 14:49Speaker 1: and three other girlfriends, Selinda Middlefart then twenty one, Eva
- 14:54Speaker 1: Anderson Dubin thirty three, and Francis Jardine, who was believed
- 14:58Speaker 1: to be in her twenties. The four other women who
- 15:01Speaker 1: also appear in the logs are named Jennifer Garrison, Shelley Gaffney,
- 15:05Speaker 1: Jennifer Driver, and Lubiyov or LoVa. Visitor logs confirmed he
- 15:11Speaker 1: was signed in by a person named Rubin, a possible
- 15:14Speaker 1: reference to Robert Rubin, who became Director of the National
- 15:18Speaker 1: Economic Council when Clinton took office and Treasury Secretary in
- 15:22Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five. Ah, no big deal here, no ties
- 15:25Speaker 1: at all. This was just a chance meeting nothing more
- 15:29Speaker 1: than strangers passing in the night. Just ask Bill Clinton,
- 15:32Speaker 1: That's what I'll tell you. Epstein returned on September twenty
- 15:36Speaker 1: ninth to attend a reception organized by the White House
- 15:39Speaker 1: Historical Association after he donated ten thousand dollars to help
- 15:43Speaker 1: renovate the building. It was one of the earliest instances
- 15:47Speaker 1: of Epstein using philanthropy to gain access to powerful men,
- 15:51Speaker 1: a tactic he would deploy extensively to negate his two
- 15:54Speaker 1: thousand and eight conviction in Florida for having sex with
- 15:57Speaker 1: underage girls. Photos from the Bancho Epstein and Clinton shaking hands,
- 16:02Speaker 1: with both men smiling broadly. The bulk of Epstein's visits
- 16:06Speaker 1: came in nineteen ninety four, when he visited on a
- 16:08Speaker 1: dozen occasions, meeting a variety of aids, including Mark Middleton,
- 16:13Speaker 1: who was a special assistant to the President and also
- 16:16Speaker 1: flew on the Lolita Express. According to flight logs, Epstein
- 16:20Speaker 1: visited Clinton just once in nineteen ninety five, on January
- 16:23Speaker 1: twenty eighth, and he was again signed in by Middleton
- 16:27Speaker 1: aids Gruesome suicide. Middleton's curious cameo dozen end there, Copsey
- 16:33Speaker 1: took his own life in twenty twenty two, but the
- 16:36Speaker 1: gory suicide raised more questions than answers. The married father
- 16:40Speaker 1: of two, who worked for his family's HVAC business after
- 16:44Speaker 1: leaving politics, was found hanging from a tree on farmland
- 16:47Speaker 1: in Perryville, Arkansas. I could see that he had a
- 16:50Speaker 1: gunshot wound to the chest, and that he had a
- 16:52Speaker 1: knot tied to an extension cord that was around his neck,
- 16:56Speaker 1: and it was attached to the limb directly above him,
- 16:59Speaker 1: noted a deputy. A search of Middleton's BMW turned up
- 17:02Speaker 1: three boxes of buckshot and a gun case, but no weapon.
- 17:06Speaker 1: The fifty nine year old's death was nonetheless recorded as
- 17:09Speaker 1: the suicide. In nineteen ninety six, one year after leaving
- 17:13Speaker 1: the White House, Middleton was accused of abusing his access
- 17:16Speaker 1: to impress business clients and was barred from the Executive
- 17:19Speaker 1: Mansion without senior approval. More like, he took the fall.
- 17:24Speaker 1: While we need a fall guy, who's it going to be?
- 17:26Speaker 1: All right, It's going to be Doug Middleton, because we
- 17:29Speaker 1: all know that the Clintons had fall guys and fall
- 17:32Speaker 1: gals all around them. According to the Arkansas Times, Middleton's
- 17:36Speaker 1: family said he was suffering from depression when he died.
- 17:39Speaker 1: A number of Clinton's former associates have perished over the
- 17:42Speaker 1: years in unexpected circumstances, including Deputy White House Counsel Vince
- 17:47Speaker 1: Foster in nineteen ninety three. His death from a self
- 17:51Speaker 1: inflicted gunshot was ruled a suicide, but sparked a slew
- 17:55Speaker 1: of conspiracy theories about the involvement of the Clintons. And
- 17:59Speaker 1: to be clear, from all the evidence that I've seen,
- 18:01Speaker 1: Doug Middleton killed himself. Now, is there something else amiss?
- 18:05Speaker 1: Are they hiding information? I don't know, but from the
- 18:07Speaker 1: official reports and what we've seen, I would say that
- 18:10Speaker 1: Doug Middleton was suffering from a bit of anxiety, depression, whatever,
- 18:15Speaker 1: and decided that enough was enough. But how many people
- 18:19Speaker 1: connected to the Clintons have ended up going this route?
- 18:22Speaker 1: Warren to stay away. Doug Band, Clinton's one time chief advisor,
- 18:27Speaker 1: poured fuel on the Epstein bubba fire when he came
- 18:30Speaker 1: forward in twenty twenty to say that the ex president
- 18:32Speaker 1: did indeed visit Little Saint James. Band said he repeatedly
- 18:37Speaker 1: warned his boss to steer clear of Epstein and his
- 18:39Speaker 1: warp Madam Glenn Maxwell, who was particularly close with Chelsea
- 18:43Speaker 1: Clinton and attended her twenty ten wedding. I mean, you're
- 18:47Speaker 1: not getting invited to the wedding if you're not somebody
- 18:50Speaker 1: who's close to the family. We're not talking about a
- 18:52Speaker 1: shotgun wedding here at the Little White Chapel. We're talking
- 18:56Speaker 1: about Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and their daughter Chelsea getting mad.
- 19:00Speaker 1: So you know it's going to be a whole ass affair,
- 19:02Speaker 1: a whole ass ordeal, and someone like Lane Maxwell getting
- 19:05Speaker 1: invited to that wedding. Yikes. Really nobody wants to explain
- 19:09Speaker 1: that either. Huh, I know, I know, let's talk about
- 19:12Speaker 1: alex Acosta. Glen had access to yachts and nice homes,
- 19:16Speaker 1: he told a Vanity Fair Chelsea needed that. Band insisted
- 19:19Speaker 1: that Clinton had visited Epstein's Caribbean retreat in two thousand
- 19:23Speaker 1: and three, despite Clinton's camps repeated claims to the contrary,
- 19:27Speaker 1: and remember, Doug Band was the keyholder. Doug Band was
- 19:30Speaker 1: Bill Clinton's number one guy. He told the magazine that
- 19:34Speaker 1: he was so wary about the invite that he excused
- 19:37Speaker 1: himself from the trip. A Clinton spokesman dismissed the allegation
- 19:41Speaker 1: and characterized Band as a bitter X staffer seeking to
- 19:44Speaker 1: profit on his former connections. Oh yeah, sure. Look, the
- 19:49Speaker 1: truth is the truth, and there's no doubt that the
- 19:52Speaker 1: Clinton's and Jeffrey Epstein had a lot tighter of a
- 19:55Speaker 1: relationship than they're letting us know. Ban was just twenty
- 20:00Speaker 1: two and doing a law degree at Georgetown University when
- 20:03Speaker 1: he landed an unpaid internship in the White House midway
- 20:07Speaker 1: through Clinton's first term. When Clinton left office in two
- 20:11Speaker 1: thousand and one, Band went with them and helped to
- 20:14Speaker 1: resurrect the Clinton brand that was tarnished by the controversial
- 20:17Speaker 1: pardons and the Monica Lewinsky sex scandal. Band became semi
- 20:21Speaker 1: famous in the process, enjoying a brief romance with Naomi
- 20:25Speaker 1: Campbell before falling out with Chelsea in twenty eleven. A
- 20:30Speaker 1: newly unsealed deposition suggests he may be especially close to Maxwell,
- 20:34Speaker 1: who is serving twenty years for grooming young girls. To
- 20:36Speaker 1: Epstein asked if they were ever in a romantic relationship,
- 20:40Speaker 1: the disgrace socialite, you mean newman trafficker, told Epstein's survivor,
- 20:44Speaker 1: Virginia Roberts lawyers, we are talking about adult consensual relationships.
- 20:49Speaker 1: It's off the record. And I've talked about the possibility
- 20:53Speaker 1: that Bill Clinton and Glenne Maxwell were involved romantically before
- 20:57Speaker 1: and where did I get that information? Well, it's out there.
- 21:00Speaker 1: It's a Daily Beast article if you were wondering, And
- 21:02Speaker 1: I wouldn't think that the Daily Beast would be called,
- 21:05Speaker 1: you know, a right wing outlet. So the Daily Beast
- 21:08Speaker 1: has been all over the Bill Clinton stuff, and you
- 21:11Speaker 1: have to give them a tip of the cap. They're
- 21:14Speaker 1: going against the grain and they're trying to provide some
- 21:17Speaker 1: information about Bill Clinton and the role that he played
- 21:20Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Epstein and Glain Maxwell. And there has been
- 21:23Speaker 1: some rumor, some innuendo that Bill Clinton and Glen Maxwell
- 21:28Speaker 1: might have been involved romantically. I can't prove that, but
- 21:31Speaker 1: the receipts are there, and you can find those receipts
- 21:34Speaker 1: in that Daily Beast article. And while I can't prove
- 21:37Speaker 1: it one way or the other, it certainly seems like
- 21:39Speaker 1: attracks to me. We all know that Glean Maxwell's a skafuzza,
- 21:42Speaker 1: and we all know that Bill Clinton, well, that dude
- 21:45Speaker 1: will fuck anything, including a catcher's mitt. So does it
- 21:49Speaker 1: not track with you? Certainly tracks with me. One thing
- 21:52Speaker 1: that I don't think can be disputed is the fact
- 21:54Speaker 1: that Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein were super tight, at
- 21:58Speaker 1: least for a period of time. And now that that's
- 22:00Speaker 1: all being revealed for the masses to see, will somebody
- 22:04Speaker 1: start asking Bill Clinton the hard questions for some reason?
- 22:08Speaker 1: I have my doubts. All right, folks, that's gonna do
- 22:11Speaker 1: it for this one. All of the information that goes
- 22:13Speaker 1: with this episode can be found in the description box.
- 22:17Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 22:22Speaker 1: As the lawsuit between the US Virgin Islands and JP
- 22:25Speaker 1: Morgan continues to make its way through court, we're finding
- 22:29Speaker 1: out a lot more about the emails and the scheduling
- 22:33Speaker 1: that was going on within Jeffrey Epstein's universe. Well, one
- 22:38Speaker 1: of the people that was a bit chummier with Epstein
- 22:41Speaker 1: than he has let on is Michael wolf And Michael
- 22:45Speaker 1: wolf is an author who thought it would be a
- 22:47Speaker 1: good idea to continue to palle around with Epstein after
- 22:51Speaker 1: Epstein's conviction. So who is Michael wolf Well, let's talk
- 22:56Speaker 1: about him real quick. Michael Wolfe is an American journalist
- 22:59Speaker 1: as well as a columnist and contributor at USA Today,
- 23:04Speaker 1: The Hollywood Reporter and the UK edition of GQ. He
- 23:08Speaker 1: has received two National Magazine Awards, a Mira Award, and
- 23:12Speaker 1: has authored seven books, including burn Rate, about his own
- 23:16Speaker 1: dot com company, and The Man who Owns the News,
- 23:19Speaker 1: a biography of Rupert Murdoch. He co founded the news
- 23:22Speaker 1: aggregation website newser and is a former editor of Adweek.
- 23:27Speaker 1: On January fifth, twenty eighteen, Wolfe's book Fire and Fury
- 23:31Speaker 1: Inside the Trump White House was published, containing unflattering descriptions
- 23:36Speaker 1: of behavior by US President Donald Trump, chaotic interactions among
- 23:41Speaker 1: the White House senior staff, and derogatory comments about the
- 23:45Speaker 1: Trump family by former White House chief strategist Steve Pannin.
- 23:49Speaker 1: The book quickly became a New York Times Number one
- 23:52Speaker 1: bestseller and became the first of a trilogy about Trump
- 23:56Speaker 1: and power, the other two books being Siege and Landslide.
- 24:00Speaker 1: There was like a whole ass industry that popped up
- 24:03Speaker 1: around Trump, all of these jerkofs who wrote all of
- 24:06Speaker 1: these stupid books, and all they're doing is rehashing the
- 24:09Speaker 1: same stuff that the other knuckleheads said before them. Here's
- 24:13Speaker 1: an idea. If you're going to have some kind of
- 24:16Speaker 1: investigative piece, it's a good idea to give us some
- 24:20Speaker 1: new news and not just rehash the bs that you've
- 24:23Speaker 1: been talking about or other people have been talking about
- 24:26Speaker 1: ad nauseum that goes nowhere. And that's what all of
- 24:29Speaker 1: these books pretty much were. Did any of them offer
- 24:33Speaker 1: up anything worthwhile? Of course they didn't. It was the
- 24:36Speaker 1: shiny object in the room, though, and people knew, grifters
- 24:40Speaker 1: knew that there was a whole ass cottage industry popping
- 24:43Speaker 1: up around this. So all of these people were like,
- 24:45Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna write a book. I have
- 24:47Speaker 1: an inside source. Meanwhile, they're all just telling the same
- 24:50Speaker 1: ass story, just repackaged. So today we have an article
- 24:53Speaker 1: from The Daily Beast talking a little bit more about
- 24:56Speaker 1: Michael wolf and how he conveniently omitted his his own
- 25:00Speaker 1: relationship with Jeffrey Epstein from that part of his book headline,
- 25:05Speaker 1: Michael Wolfe is all over Jeffrey Epstein's date book. This
- 25:10Speaker 1: article was authored by Lachlan Cartwright. Gossipy provocateur and author
- 25:15Speaker 1: Michael Wolfe has long been accused of being too chummy
- 25:18Speaker 1: with his highest profile subjects, which at one point included
- 25:23Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. New documents obtained and reviewed by Confider reveal
- 25:27Speaker 1: the extent to which the pair spent time together even
- 25:31Speaker 1: after Epstein was found guilty of sexually abusing a fourteen
- 25:35Speaker 1: year old girl. Now, how can you ever justify hanging
- 25:39Speaker 1: out with somebody who is a convicted sex offender? Like
- 25:42Speaker 1: maybe if it's your family member and you guys are
- 25:45Speaker 1: out like a barbecue or something. All right, look, Uncle
- 25:48Speaker 1: Jed's coming over, the fucking diddler. But all of these people,
- 25:51Speaker 1: they willingly were hanging out with Epstein because let's be
- 25:54Speaker 1: very clear, they were all looking to benefit in some
- 25:57Speaker 1: sort of way writing on this dude's and if that
- 26:01Speaker 1: meant closing their eyes and ignoring that girls were being
- 26:04Speaker 1: harmed all around them, then that's what they were going
- 26:07Speaker 1: to do. According to newly on earthed, scheduling records and
- 26:10Speaker 1: emails from the US Virgin Islands Attorney General Wolf and Epstein,
- 26:15Speaker 1: who were close in late nineties and early two thousands,
- 26:18Speaker 1: at one point partnering up to try and buy New
- 26:21Speaker 1: York Magazine, had at least nine planned meetings between twenty
- 26:24Speaker 1: twelve and twenty and fifteen. Harvey Weinstein was also involved
- 26:29Speaker 1: in that plan purchase of New York Magazine and the
- 26:33Speaker 1: idea behind that was obviously for Epstein to continue to
- 26:37Speaker 1: refurbish his image and to make it look like, with
- 26:40Speaker 1: his own narratives coming out of his own paper, that
- 26:43Speaker 1: he's just a guy that has been much maligned and
- 26:46Speaker 1: that all of these girls are liars. Thankfully, it never happened. Unfortunately,
- 26:50Speaker 1: there's a bunch of jerkofs in the media like this clown,
- 26:54Speaker 1: who have done nothing but run cover for Jeffrey Epstein
- 26:57Speaker 1: for all of these years. These previously unreported meetups, which
- 27:02Speaker 1: were not disclosed in Wolfe's most recent book, Too Famous,
- 27:05Speaker 1: and its chapter title The Last Days of Jeffrey Epstein,
- 27:08Speaker 1: provide a unique window into just how much the two
- 27:11Speaker 1: socialized even after Epstein served jail in two thousand and
- 27:15Speaker 1: eight and became a registered sex offender. Pretty convenient that
- 27:20Speaker 1: he left his own palin around with Epstein out of
- 27:22Speaker 1: the book. Huh, Yeah, you know what, we'll just we'll
- 27:25Speaker 1: admit this and we'll make everybody else look bad. Meanwhile,
- 27:29Speaker 1: it's not a big secret that these two were friends,
- 27:32Speaker 1: So just be honest in your book and explain your
- 27:35Speaker 1: friendship with this guy instead of just talking about how
- 27:38Speaker 1: he's friends with everyone else. The first schedule hang was
- 27:43Speaker 1: dated February sixteenth, twenty twelve, a breakfast in New York
- 27:48Speaker 1: that listed both Wolf's cell and email. Confider cannot verify
- 27:52Speaker 1: whether the meeting took place, but confirmed the listed cell
- 27:55Speaker 1: number and email belonged to Wolf. And while we can't
- 27:58Speaker 1: confirm some of these meetings, my guess is that they
- 28:02Speaker 1: took place. Do you really think that Epstein would just
- 28:04Speaker 1: have them penned into his calendar if they weren't going
- 28:07Speaker 1: to happen. Whatever else this guy was, he was somebody
- 28:11Speaker 1: that was about his shit, somebody that wanted this whole
- 28:14Speaker 1: enterprise to keep moving, and to do that, he needed
- 28:17Speaker 1: to have people in his pocket. He needed to have
- 28:20Speaker 1: people writing all kinds of BS stories about him, all
- 28:23Speaker 1: kinds of puff pieces. So all of these people would
- 28:27Speaker 1: come and hang out with them, break bread with them,
- 28:30Speaker 1: and they'd catch something on the back end, whether it's money,
- 28:33Speaker 1: a trip down to the island, or something else entirely.
- 28:38Speaker 1: On July thirtieth, twenty thirteen, Wolf was listed as having
- 28:42Speaker 1: a scheduled lunch with Epstein at twelve thirty pm in
- 28:46Speaker 1: New York City. In early twenty fourteen, Wolf was slated
- 28:50Speaker 1: for a January breakfast in the city with Epstein, as
- 28:53Speaker 1: well as dinner where Woody Allen, his wife sun Ye Previn,
- 28:57Speaker 1: and former JP Morgan executive just among several others were
- 29:02Speaker 1: listed as attending, followed by two meetings in September and
- 29:06Speaker 1: another lunch in October that year. By twenty fifteen, they
- 29:11Speaker 1: had plans to meet in January for breakfast and on
- 29:14Speaker 1: April eighth for a late afternoon appointment. Oh, a late
- 29:17Speaker 1: afternoon appointment? Is it? And it's so funny how all
- 29:20Speaker 1: these people who were close to Epstein back in the
- 29:23Speaker 1: day have tried to profit on the back of that
- 29:26Speaker 1: relationship while not exposing just how close they were. While
- 29:30Speaker 1: such engagements could ostensibly be characterized as source meetings for
- 29:35Speaker 1: a reporter like Wolf, they are certainly curious considering the
- 29:39Speaker 1: long running questions about their connections. New York Magazine notably
- 29:44Speaker 1: killed Wolf's rehabby profile of Epstein in twenty nineteen over
- 29:48Speaker 1: fact checking concerns, which were later alleged to include the
- 29:52Speaker 1: author allowing Epstein to dictate the peace and field all
- 29:56Speaker 1: fact related questions. According to Alex Yablin, the fact checker
- 30:01Speaker 1: on the piece, and that is far too common these days.
- 30:04Speaker 1: You have these journalists who trade their morality for access,
- 30:09Speaker 1: and you see it time and time again. Look at
- 30:11Speaker 1: what ABC did with the Amy Robots story when she
- 30:15Speaker 1: had all of the details from Virginia Roberts, but instead
- 30:19Speaker 1: of running that story, they killed it. That way they
- 30:22Speaker 1: could keep their access to the royal family. And there's
- 30:25Speaker 1: a lot of journalists that'll do that as well. They'll
- 30:27Speaker 1: suspend their integrity to get the story as long as
- 30:30Speaker 1: it's going to get them clicks or it's going to
- 30:32Speaker 1: get them views. To hell with having any sort of
- 30:35Speaker 1: integrity or any sort of morality. I'm just gonna say
- 30:38Speaker 1: whatever to try and get clicks and try and secure
- 30:41Speaker 1: that bag. And there's just way too much of that
- 30:43Speaker 1: going on, way too many people that'll say whatever because
- 30:47Speaker 1: they know it's going to tickle people's confirmation bias. And
- 30:50Speaker 1: the goal is to play on people's emotions. The more
- 30:53Speaker 1: emotional people are, the more invested they are, and the
- 30:55Speaker 1: more willing they are to come out of their pocketbook
- 30:58Speaker 1: to continue funding the grift. Wolf did not respond to
- 31:01Speaker 1: Confider's multiple requests for comment about the purpose of their
- 31:05Speaker 1: scheduled meetings or what was discussed, and while Wolfe's book
- 31:09Speaker 1: includes the forty page chapter about Epstein, largely centered on
- 31:13Speaker 1: the convicted sex offenders relationship with Steve Bannon. He curiously
- 31:18Speaker 1: made no mention of his own extensive association with Epstein,
- 31:22Speaker 1: and Epstein was trying to get some tips from Steve
- 31:25Speaker 1: Bannon as well. Don't forget that Steve Bannon was coaching
- 31:29Speaker 1: him as far as the interview process, and things escalated
- 31:33Speaker 1: to a point where allegedly there was a whole interview conducted.
- 31:37Speaker 1: But I guess it's never going to see the light
- 31:39Speaker 1: of day. However, wolf has never been shy about sharing
- 31:44Speaker 1: his thoughts on Epstein. He has never been secretive about
- 31:47Speaker 1: the girls. Wolfe told New York in two thousand and seven.
- 31:51Speaker 1: At one point when his troubles began, he was talking
- 31:53Speaker 1: to me and said, what can I say? I like
- 31:56Speaker 1: young girls? I said, maybe you should say I like
- 31:59Speaker 1: young women. Imagine that's your advice. Instead of saying, here's
- 32:02Speaker 1: an idea, stop being a sick, disgusting diddler and go
- 32:06Speaker 1: find a woman in your own age, he says, just
- 32:09Speaker 1: change the language. And that's the real problem, folks, that's
- 32:12Speaker 1: the problem with all of these so called elite and
- 32:15Speaker 1: the gatekeepers in the media that protect them. You would
- 32:18Speaker 1: think that somebody like Michael Wolf would find what Epstein
- 32:21Speaker 1: did abhorrent and not want to associate with him and
- 32:24Speaker 1: tell them something a little bit different. Besides, oh, just
- 32:27Speaker 1: change the way you word that, repackage it a little
- 32:30Speaker 1: bit better. I mean, that's your advice as opposed to
- 32:33Speaker 1: writing an absolute hit piece on the guy. That's the
- 32:36Speaker 1: advice you give him. Huh. And then you go and
- 32:38Speaker 1: write a book with a forty page chapter about Epstein
- 32:42Speaker 1: where your tight relationship with the guy is conveniently left out. Huh. Well,
- 32:47Speaker 1: I'm not surprised, because guess what, folks, it's just par
- 32:50Speaker 1: for the course, all right, everybody that's gonna do it
- 32:54Speaker 1: for this one. All of the information that goes with
- 32:56Speaker 1: the episode can be found in the description box. What's
- 33:00Speaker 1: up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. So
- 33:05Speaker 1: Bill Gates gave an interview to the Times of UK
- 33:09Speaker 1: and he's once again talking about how he had no
- 33:13Speaker 1: idea about who Jeffrey Epstein was when they became friends.
- 33:18Speaker 1: The only problem is Jeffrey Epstein was convicted in two
- 33:21Speaker 1: thousand and eight and him and Epstein, him and Bill
- 33:24Speaker 1: Gates didn't start paling around until twenty and eleven. So
- 33:29Speaker 1: Bill Gates has a bit of a problem here. Now
- 33:33Speaker 1: he can go around and talk about how, oh, I
- 33:36Speaker 1: had no idea that Jeffrey Epstein was a sick child
- 33:39Speaker 1: molester and expect people to believe it. But the reality
- 33:45Speaker 1: is most people are hit to these excuses by now,
- 33:51Speaker 1: and specifically when we're dealing with Epstein. Most of these
- 33:55Speaker 1: people have tried to distance themselves and act like they
- 33:58Speaker 1: never even knew who was Well, Bill Gates can't do that.
- 34:03Speaker 1: His own wife came out and said that one of
- 34:06Speaker 1: the concerning issues she had with Bill Gates before their
- 34:09Speaker 1: divorce was his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein. So all of
- 34:15Speaker 1: the bs that Bill Gates tries to pump about how
- 34:18Speaker 1: they weren't friends, he had no idea. I don't buy
- 34:22Speaker 1: any of it. Just another one of these dudes, one
- 34:25Speaker 1: of these so called elites, who is trying to cover
- 34:29Speaker 1: their own ass so that they don't have to deal
- 34:32Speaker 1: with this fallout. Well, here's an idea. If you didn't
- 34:35Speaker 1: want to deal with the fallout, why'd you hang out
- 34:37Speaker 1: with the guy in the first place? Same thing I
- 34:39Speaker 1: say about Andrew. All of these people that have the
- 34:42Speaker 1: whole entire world at their feet, and they choose to
- 34:45Speaker 1: engage in this sort of shit. I'll never understand it.
- 34:49Speaker 1: Imagine having Bill Gates money and going to try and
- 34:52Speaker 1: weasel some more money out of a guy like Epstein
- 34:54Speaker 1: for your charities, like he says he was doing. You
- 34:58Speaker 1: mean to tell me you don't know any other rich people.
- 35:00Speaker 1: You have to go to a child molester's house and
- 35:02Speaker 1: try and get money from the Huh, even after your
- 35:04Speaker 1: wife tells you it's a bad idea. Look. I don't
- 35:07Speaker 1: know about you guys out there who were married or
- 35:10Speaker 1: in long term relationships, but when my girlfriend tells me
- 35:13Speaker 1: something's a bad idea, I listen. Nobody knows me better
- 35:18Speaker 1: than my girlfriend, So when she gives me advice, especially
- 35:22Speaker 1: about important, serious things, you better believe I listened to
- 35:25Speaker 1: what she has to say. And if Bill Gates would
- 35:28Speaker 1: have listened to his wife, he wouldn't have found himself
- 35:31Speaker 1: in this position. But he knows better, right, he's smarter
- 35:34Speaker 1: than the rest of us. Well, not that smart, are
- 35:37Speaker 1: you there, Billy boy? This article is from the Daily
- 35:42Speaker 1: Mail headline. Bill Gates says he made a huge mistake
- 35:46Speaker 1: meeting with Jeffrey Epstein for fundraising dinners and didn't realize
- 35:50Speaker 1: those meetings would be seen as giving him credibility. Oh,
- 35:54Speaker 1: I know, you're just so naive. You're just such a
- 35:57Speaker 1: naive man, Bill Gates. You want everyone to believe that
- 35:59Speaker 1: you had no idea, But at the same time, you're
- 36:02Speaker 1: gonna get up here and tell everybody how you're gonna
- 36:05Speaker 1: fix the next pandemic. And then you wonder why nobody
- 36:08Speaker 1: listens to you or why conspiracy theories pop up around you.
- 36:11Speaker 1: It's because you're not a reliable person. Okay. This article
- 36:17Speaker 1: was authored by James Gordon. Bill Gates has admitted he's
- 36:22Speaker 1: made a huge mistake by attending fundraising meetings with convicted
- 36:26Speaker 1: sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. You mean pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and
- 36:30Speaker 1: attending fundraising meetings. Come on, stop it. You think that's
- 36:34Speaker 1: all that was going on when he was over there,
- 36:36Speaker 1: just fundraising meetings. There wasn't any scantily claud underage girls
- 36:39Speaker 1: running around. Look, I don't know, I wasn't there. I'm
- 36:42Speaker 1: asking you the question. The Microsoft founder sixty five first
- 36:47Speaker 1: met Epstein in twenty and eleven, after the financier pedophile
- 36:51Speaker 1: had been convicted of soliciting sex from a minor in
- 36:54Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. That makes you a pedophile, okay,
- 36:57Speaker 1: convicted of soliciting sex from a mic or kind of
- 37:01Speaker 1: dumbass laws that in the first place. Epstein was also
- 37:05Speaker 1: invited to fundraising dinners that promoted the Gates Foundation. Nah,
- 37:09Speaker 1: they didn't know each other though. Come on, I had
- 37:11Speaker 1: no idea what Epstein was. I'm just the you know,
- 37:13Speaker 1: third richest man in the world, second richest man in
- 37:16Speaker 1: the world. I don't have anyone that can do research
- 37:18Speaker 1: on the people I'm getting into business with. What are
- 37:21Speaker 1: you crazy? At the time, I didn't realize that by
- 37:25Speaker 1: having those meetings it would be seen as giving him credibility,
- 37:28Speaker 1: Gates told The Times in an interview on Sunday. Oh,
- 37:31Speaker 1: you didn't realize. Huh, Well, that's funny. I certainly don't
- 37:34Speaker 1: have billions of dollars and houses all over the place,
- 37:39Speaker 1: and you know, bank accounts and multiple countries. But I
- 37:43Speaker 1: could have told you that hanging out with a convicted
- 37:45Speaker 1: sex offender, as Bill Gates, well, what you're doing is
- 37:49Speaker 1: refurbishing the other person's image. It doesn't take a genius
- 37:53Speaker 1: to figure that out. Most of us out there wouldn't
- 37:58Speaker 1: associate with somebody with offense of sexual predator as, especially
- 38:05Speaker 1: when it involves children. But Bill Gates, what does he care?
- 38:11Speaker 1: You're almost saying I forgive that type of behavior or something,
- 38:14Speaker 1: so clearly the way it's seen, I made a huge
- 38:16Speaker 1: mistake not understanding that. Oh, let's just play ignorance. Huh. Oh,
- 38:21Speaker 1: I didn't understand it. That's why I made the mistake.
- 38:24Speaker 1: It's not what you think it is. The dinners were
- 38:29Speaker 1: a point of contention between the Microsoft billionaire and his
- 38:32Speaker 1: now ex wife and business partner, Melinda French Gates, who
- 38:36Speaker 1: described Epstein as evil personified she's not wrong about that.
- 38:41Speaker 1: The couple announced their separation last year after twenty seven
- 38:44Speaker 1: years of marriage. In earlier interviews, Gates stated how he
- 38:49Speaker 1: ultimately stopped meetings with the convicted sex offender after he
- 38:53Speaker 1: realized the meetings would not be productive for his philanthropic foundation. Again,
- 39:00Speaker 1: the richest men in the world, Jeffrey Epstein is not
- 39:03Speaker 1: one of the richest men in the world. He wasn't
- 39:05Speaker 1: even worth a billion dollars. So what are you doing
- 39:08Speaker 1: going over here and letting him play kingmaker? You don't
- 39:13Speaker 1: have any other friends that could pony up some dough.
- 39:16Speaker 1: Why don't you call your boy Ben Tallal over there
- 39:18Speaker 1: in Saudi Arabia. Oh what you think we don't know
- 39:21Speaker 1: about your business dealings with him. I had dinners with him.
- 39:28Speaker 1: I regret doing that. He had relationships with, he said,
- 39:32Speaker 1: with people he said would give to public health. Not
- 39:35Speaker 1: nearly enough philanthropy goes in that direction, Gates said in
- 39:38Speaker 1: a September twenty twenty one interview, still trying to make
- 39:42Speaker 1: it okay, Well, not enough money goes into that avenue.
- 39:46Speaker 1: So I was gonna get a little bit from old
- 39:47Speaker 1: Jeffy boy as if that explains everything away and will
- 39:52Speaker 1: make people just shrug their shoulders and be like, oh, well,
- 39:54Speaker 1: that's what it was. Those meetings were a mistake. They
- 40:00Speaker 1: didn't result in what he purported, and I cut them off.
- 40:04Speaker 1: You know, that goes back a long time ago. Now,
- 40:06Speaker 1: he said to PBS. Oh yeah, so let's just forget it.
- 40:09Speaker 1: It was in the past. Nobody should pay attention to
- 40:11Speaker 1: what I was doing. Meanwhile, you have people digging up
- 40:15Speaker 1: tweets from twenty and eleven when an athlete gets drafted
- 40:20Speaker 1: and getting called all kinds of crazy names. But Bill
- 40:23Speaker 1: Gates and the rest of these scumbags so called elite
- 40:26Speaker 1: can hang out, break bread with Epstein, you name it,
- 40:29Speaker 1: and still do the circuit on national television. It tells
- 40:32Speaker 1: you everything you need to know. Folks, The question is
- 40:35Speaker 1: are you paying attention The billionaire is previously claimed he
- 40:40Speaker 1: had concerns about Epstein, who had pleaded guilty and was
- 40:43Speaker 1: convicted in two thousand and eight of procuring a child
- 40:46Speaker 1: for prostitution and of soliciting a prostitute years before the
- 40:50Speaker 1: tech mogul met the financier pedophile. And again, children can't
- 40:55Speaker 1: be prostitutes. So if you're soliciting a child, you're not
- 40:58Speaker 1: soliciting a institute. You're engaging in child abuse and you
- 41:03Speaker 1: should be arrested. I had several dinner dinners with him,
- 41:07Speaker 1: hoping that what he said about getting billions of philanthropy
- 41:11Speaker 1: for global health through contacts he might he might have
- 41:14Speaker 1: he might had e merge. When it looked like that
- 41:17Speaker 1: wasn't a real thing, that relationship ended, Gates said. So basically,
- 41:21Speaker 1: what Gates is saying here is ah, he couldn't provide
- 41:25Speaker 1: anything for me, so I just stopped talking to him.
- 41:27Speaker 1: But again, I don't even believe that the original premise
- 41:32Speaker 1: put on the table here by Gates. Oh, I'm there
- 41:34Speaker 1: for philanthropic purposes. I'm there to get money. He's come on,
- 41:38Speaker 1: why aren't you going to Leon Black to get money
- 41:40Speaker 1: or Les Wexner or Jamie Diamond or insert other scumbag
- 41:45Speaker 1: rich guy here. Why are you dealing with a man
- 41:49Speaker 1: who is just locked in all kinds of controversy from
- 41:53Speaker 1: day one, never mind being a sexual predator to top
- 41:57Speaker 1: it off, there is no excuse you can give you're
- 42:00Speaker 1: put forward that I would say, you know what, this
- 42:03Speaker 1: is a legitimate reason that he was over at Epstein's house.
- 42:08Speaker 1: It was a huge mistake to spend time with him
- 42:10Speaker 1: and give him the credibility of being there. There were
- 42:13Speaker 1: lots of others in that same situation, but I made
- 42:16Speaker 1: a mistake. So he has to throw that in there, right,
- 42:19Speaker 1: And it's interesting there was a lot of other people there,
- 42:22Speaker 1: but I made a mistake. So what he's doing here
- 42:25Speaker 1: is saying, well, look at the other people. They were
- 42:28Speaker 1: there too, so how can you blame me? But out
- 42:31Speaker 1: of the other side of his mouth, he says, but
- 42:33Speaker 1: I made a mistake. So he's trying to shovel blame
- 42:37Speaker 1: while take a little bit of that blame at the
- 42:39Speaker 1: same time. But the reality is, I don't care what
- 42:42Speaker 1: anybody else was doing. We're talking about you right now,
- 42:45Speaker 1: Bill Gates. We'll get to the rest of those scumbags
- 42:47Speaker 1: later on. You're up on the carpet right now. Don't
- 42:51Speaker 1: try and pass the buck, pass the blame. Oh well,
- 42:54Speaker 1: this one was doing that, that one was doing this.
- 42:56Speaker 1: Nobody cares what were you doing. Gates has been reported
- 43:00Speaker 1: to have visited Epstein's home numerous times and even talked
- 43:04Speaker 1: with him about his toxic marriage, while the pedophile allegedly
- 43:08Speaker 1: gave him advice on ending his marriage. According to The
- 43:11Speaker 1: Daily Beast, gates visits to Epstein's lair weren't escaped from
- 43:15Speaker 1: his unhappy marriage, and the pair were very close. The
- 43:19Speaker 1: source said, imagine this guy's out here talking about Oh,
- 43:22Speaker 1: it's just pursonners, and he won't get hammered in the
- 43:24Speaker 1: media over it. He's one of those media darlings, so
- 43:27Speaker 1: he really won't catch a beating in the media over this.
- 43:30Speaker 1: But he should. He really should. You're going over there
- 43:34Speaker 1: and getting marriage advice from Jeffrey Epstein, Really, that sounds
- 43:38Speaker 1: like a profitable path to trapes down. Seemed to work
- 43:45Speaker 1: out well for you too, considering your wife divorced, your
- 43:47Speaker 1: bitch ass. Flight records also reveal that Gates flew with
- 43:52Speaker 1: Epstein on the so called Lolita Express from Teterborough Airport
- 43:56Speaker 1: in New Jersey to Palm Beach on March first, twenty thirteen,
- 44:00Speaker 1: one of the few flights that year where a pilot,
- 44:03Speaker 1: Larry Vassoski, recorded the name of a passenger. So what
- 44:07Speaker 1: are you doing on the plane? You don't got your
- 44:08Speaker 1: own jet. You don't got a Microsoft jet. That's all
- 44:11Speaker 1: you know, tricked out that you can fly around in
- 44:14Speaker 1: in the lapse of luxury. You have to get up
- 44:16Speaker 1: there in Epstein's flying house of horrors and catch a flight. Why.
- 44:23Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, Because you guys are a lot
- 44:25Speaker 1: closer than you're letting on here, Billy Boy. In her
- 44:30Speaker 1: first interview since her divorce from the billionaire last year,
- 44:33Speaker 1: Melinda told CBS Mornings in March that she insisted on
- 44:37Speaker 1: meeting Epstein back in twenty eleven because she wanted to
- 44:40Speaker 1: see who this man was. I did not like that
- 44:43Speaker 1: he had meetings with Jeffrey Epstein. I made that clear
- 44:46Speaker 1: to him. I also met Jeffrey Epstein exactly one time.
- 44:50Speaker 1: I wanted to see who this man was, and I
- 44:52Speaker 1: regretted it from the second I stepped in the door.
- 44:55Speaker 1: He was abhorrent, evil personified. I had nightmares about it afterwards.
- 45:00Speaker 1: That's why my heart breaks for these young women. That's
- 45:03Speaker 1: how I felt, and I am an older woman. He
- 45:06Speaker 1: was awful. Imagine this is Bill Gates' wife saying this.
- 45:09Speaker 1: She met the dude once and that's how she feels
- 45:11Speaker 1: about him. But yet, good old billy boy Gates thinks
- 45:14Speaker 1: it's a good idea to break bread with them, fly
- 45:17Speaker 1: on his plane, and then get on TV and yap
- 45:19Speaker 1: about how he's gonna help everybody. Come on, man, I'm
- 45:22Speaker 1: not buying it. Some people out there might be buying it,
- 45:25Speaker 1: but I'm certainly not. She told out Bill had to
- 45:29Speaker 1: answer for the many times he met Epstein, and even
- 45:32Speaker 1: suggested that it may have contributed to the divorce. It
- 45:36Speaker 1: was not one thing. It was many things that led
- 45:38Speaker 1: to the divorce. Any of the questions remaining about what
- 45:41Speaker 1: Bill's relationship with him was those are for Bill to answer.
- 45:46Speaker 1: I made it very clear how I felt about him,
- 45:49Speaker 1: and I don't blame her. I'd be divorcing this dude too.
- 45:51Speaker 1: Look if my wife came to me and said, hey, look,
- 45:54Speaker 1: I'm hanging out with insert human trafficker abuser here, Oh yeah,
- 46:00Speaker 1: there'd be a big problem. A spokesperson for Gates told
- 46:07Speaker 1: Insider last June that Gates had absolutely no business partnership
- 46:11Speaker 1: or personal friendship with Epstein, and any meetings between the
- 46:14Speaker 1: two were about philanthropy. Yeah, what were you guys doing
- 46:17Speaker 1: on the plane? You have to have a meeting on
- 46:19Speaker 1: the plane about philanthropy. Can't do that over the phone
- 46:22Speaker 1: via email zoom. Melinda, who shocked the world when she
- 46:31Speaker 1: and Bill announced in May twenty twenty one that they
- 46:33Speaker 1: were ending their twenty seven year marriage, previously told how
- 46:37Speaker 1: she endured emotionally challenging times whilst working with the billionaire.
- 46:42Speaker 1: The pair's divorce was finalized privately in Washington, where their
- 46:46Speaker 1: Gates Foundation is based, in August. The terms of it
- 46:49Speaker 1: were never made public, but Bill was worth a round oh,
- 46:53Speaker 1: you know, one hundred and fifty two billion at the time,
- 46:57Speaker 1: giving Melinda a fifty percent settlement of seventy six billion dollars.
- 47:02Speaker 1: Good for her, and as far as Bill Gates goes, bro,
- 47:06Speaker 1: you're worth one hundred and fifty million dollars. Okay, one
- 47:10Speaker 1: hundred and fifty two billion dollars. Why are you meeting
- 47:13Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Epstein to try and pony up some dough
- 47:18Speaker 1: You don't have any friends of your own. See, it
- 47:19Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. If Bill Gates wasn't the richest man
- 47:22Speaker 1: in the world or close to I'd be like, all right, look,
- 47:25Speaker 1: he's trying to get some money from the foundation. Maybe
- 47:27Speaker 1: this is something we can listen to. But it's not
- 47:30Speaker 1: the case. It's not like you or I showed up
- 47:32Speaker 1: their hat in hand. This is Bill Gates. He doesn't
- 47:35Speaker 1: need anybody. He chooses to be there. That does not
- 47:39Speaker 1: include the couple's vast property portfolio, which comprised of homes
- 47:44Speaker 1: in New York, Washington, and California. And I'm guessing that
- 47:48Speaker 1: they probably have money stashed elsewhere. Melinda said in March
- 47:52Speaker 1: that she and Bill are not friends, but are friendly
- 47:56Speaker 1: and work together, and suggested he had more than one
- 47:59Speaker 1: affair throughout their marriage. I believe in forgiveness. I thought
- 48:03Speaker 1: we had work through some of that, Melinda said of
- 48:05Speaker 1: his two thousand affair with a Microsoft employee. I gave
- 48:09Speaker 1: every single piece of myself to this marriage. I was
- 48:12Speaker 1: committed from the day we got engaged to the day
- 48:14Speaker 1: I got out of it, and of course he wasn't
- 48:17Speaker 1: How many of these rich dudes like Bill Gates end
- 48:21Speaker 1: up doing this, And I'm convinced it's because when they
- 48:25Speaker 1: were growing up, they never had any girls or dates,
- 48:28Speaker 1: or you know, nobody wanted to hang out with them
- 48:30Speaker 1: on the weekends. So they get a little bit of money,
- 48:32Speaker 1: a little bit of power, and all of a sudden,
- 48:35Speaker 1: they feel like they're seventeen years old out there, you know,
- 48:39Speaker 1: trying to hook up with anything that moves the whole thing.
- 48:42Speaker 1: And Bill Gates was no different. He definitely had that
- 48:45Speaker 1: frat boy mentality. Gates spokeswoman confirmed he had a sexual
- 48:51Speaker 1: relationship with a female staff member in two thousand and
- 48:55Speaker 1: that he resigned as an investigation into the relationship was
- 49:00Speaker 1: being conducted by an external law firm on behalf of
- 49:04Speaker 1: the company board. The New York Times also reported that
- 49:08Speaker 1: Gates asked out a Microsoft employee in two thousand and
- 49:11Speaker 1: six after watching her make a presentation, and a couple
- 49:15Speaker 1: of years later asked out an employee with the Bill
- 49:17Speaker 1: and Melinda Gates Foundation, both while he was married and
- 49:21Speaker 1: not only that if you're the boss, why are you
- 49:23Speaker 1: asking out your employees? Even if they don't want to
- 49:27Speaker 1: go out with you, They're gonna feel pressured or compelled
- 49:31Speaker 1: or whatever, and they're gonna, you know, maybe make a
- 49:34Speaker 1: decision they don't want to make. Here's an idea. If
- 49:36Speaker 1: you're a man in a position of power, you don't
- 49:39Speaker 1: have to date your employees. Okay, go and find a
- 49:42Speaker 1: girl at the bar, get on tender, whatever it is
- 49:45Speaker 1: the kids are doing these days. Do that, because dating
- 49:48Speaker 1: your subordinates not a good idea. Gates reportedly told the
- 49:55Speaker 1: Microsoft employee in an email, if this makes you uncomfortable,
- 49:59Speaker 1: pretend it never happened. She said, she took his advice.
- 50:02Speaker 1: I mean, as if if this makes you uncomfortable, yeah
- 50:06Speaker 1: it does. Gates allegedly later asked an employee with the
- 50:12Speaker 1: Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to dinner while the pair
- 50:15Speaker 1: were in New York for a trip. Last year, four
- 50:18Speaker 1: Microsoft employees accused Gates of being an office bully whose
- 50:22Speaker 1: catchphrase was that's the stupidest fucking idea I've ever heard. Well,
- 50:26Speaker 1: I can't get too mad at them for that. I mean,
- 50:29Speaker 1: I've said that to myself. My inner monologue runs on repeat,
- 50:33Speaker 1: saying that, especially when I'm working in a corporate environment,
- 50:37Speaker 1: So I'm not going to hold that against him too much. Look,
- 50:40Speaker 1: you're in a high pressure environment when you're working in
- 50:42Speaker 1: a place like Microsoft, and you have to come mentally
- 50:45Speaker 1: prepared for the heavy workload, and you're gonna have people
- 50:49Speaker 1: like Bill Gates who expect a lot from you. So
- 50:52Speaker 1: when you accept a job like that, you have to
- 50:54Speaker 1: understand that you're working under timelines and you know all
- 50:57Speaker 1: of the rest of it. So I'm not so worried
- 51:00Speaker 1: about bosses who are, you know, kind of dicky. I've
- 51:03Speaker 1: had plenty of those in my life. But as long
- 51:05Speaker 1: as they're good at their job and you know, they're
- 51:09Speaker 1: not bullying you or whatever for the most part, then
- 51:12Speaker 1: I really don't have too much of an issue with it.
- 51:15Speaker 1: But just about every boss or sports coach I've ever
- 51:20Speaker 1: had has been, let us say, are rough around the edges.
- 51:29Speaker 1: Gate's reputation as a hot tempered boss began not long
- 51:32Speaker 1: after he launched the tech giant Microsoft with childhood friend
- 51:35Speaker 1: Paul Allen in nineteen seventy five. Insider reported a spokesperson
- 51:40Speaker 1: for the billionaire has denied he mistreated employees. See, there's
- 51:45Speaker 1: a lot of gray area there as far as quote
- 51:47Speaker 1: unquote mistreated employees. Everybody feels differently about what mistreatment might
- 51:52Speaker 1: be in the workplace. Right, some people are, you know,
- 51:55Speaker 1: more willing to accept a rigid boss who might have
- 51:59Speaker 1: a foul as long as things are productive, whereas other
- 52:03Speaker 1: people they might not dig that right and they might
- 52:05Speaker 1: find it abusive. So I get it. Anytime that I'm
- 52:09Speaker 1: managing a department, anytime that I'm in charge of other people,
- 52:13Speaker 1: I have a simple rule, and that's just to treat
- 52:15Speaker 1: everybody the same way I'd want to be treated. And
- 52:18Speaker 1: every management job I have ever had, I have worked
- 52:21Speaker 1: my way up from the bottom rung, so I understand
- 52:24Speaker 1: how all of the other jobs go. So I am
- 52:28Speaker 1: you know, I understand the issues people on the frontline
- 52:31Speaker 1: are having as well as what's going on in the office.
- 52:39Speaker 1: A former Microsoft executive who spoke on the condition of anonymity,
- 52:43Speaker 1: told the outlet that having a meeting with Bill was
- 52:46Speaker 1: just an opportunity to get yelled at. So I tried
- 52:48Speaker 1: to avoid that. See that's lame. You can't do that.
- 52:51Speaker 1: You can't just yell at people all the time for
- 52:53Speaker 1: no reason, you gotta treat people with respect right. Gates
- 52:58Speaker 1: would even allegedly track is in employees by memorizing their
- 53:01Speaker 1: license plates. According to the outlet, Now that's batshit looney behavior.
- 53:06Speaker 1: Maria Claw, a former Microsoft board member, said a person
- 53:09Speaker 1: like Bill Gates thinks the usual rules of behavior don't
- 53:12Speaker 1: apply to him, and accused him of being unreceptive to
- 53:16Speaker 1: suggestions about improving diversity. Claw said that Gates behaved as
- 53:21Speaker 1: if he was the smartest person in the room, and
- 53:23Speaker 1: that diversity was not something Gates was interested in hearing about.
- 53:28Speaker 1: Oh he'll tell you differently, though, Right, all of these
- 53:30Speaker 1: guys will get up there and they'll tell you about
- 53:32Speaker 1: how they're the greatest man in the world and how
- 53:35Speaker 1: they're doing this to save the world. They're doing that
- 53:37Speaker 1: to save the world. But the reality is, behind closed doors,
- 53:41Speaker 1: these people are just scum. She said that when female
- 53:46Speaker 1: executives would suggest diversity initiatives, Gates would allegedly respond with
- 53:51Speaker 1: are you trying to effen destroy the company? As spokesperson
- 53:55Speaker 1: for Gates told Insider that Claw's allegations are a gross mischaracterization.
- 54:00Speaker 1: Melinda herself was an employee at Microsoft, having been hired
- 54:05Speaker 1: at as a product manager in nineteen eighty seven, when
- 54:08Speaker 1: the billionaire first asked her out months after flirting with
- 54:11Speaker 1: her at a conference dinner. Again, this guy only gets
- 54:14Speaker 1: girls at work. It seems like one of those dudes.
- 54:17Speaker 1: And you could say what you want, but my opinion
- 54:19Speaker 1: of it is this he does that because he knows
- 54:21Speaker 1: he can flex his power and they can't say no.
- 54:28Speaker 1: In the nineteen ninety two biography Hard Drive Bill Gates
- 54:31Speaker 1: in the Making of the Microsoft Empire, author James Wallace
- 54:34Speaker 1: revealed Gates had an alleged affair with a married woman
- 54:37Speaker 1: thirteen years older than him when he was twenty seven
- 54:40Speaker 1: years old. So what really, who cares honestly about the
- 54:44Speaker 1: age difference. I mean, the affair makes you a scumbag,
- 54:47Speaker 1: But if you're twenty seven and you're having an affair
- 54:50Speaker 1: with someone who's forty, I don't really see the big deal. Honestly,
- 54:54Speaker 1: once you start getting to a certain age, I mean,
- 54:56Speaker 1: it is what it is. His alleged affair was with
- 55:00Speaker 1: the wife of an Osborne computer executive who lived abroad.
- 55:03Speaker 1: According to the biography, See that's what makes you a
- 55:06Speaker 1: scumback that kind of shit. The age difference twenty seven
- 55:09Speaker 1: forty whatever. If you're happy, you're happy. Gates himself admitted
- 55:15Speaker 1: to frequenting the area centered on Washington Street between Boylston
- 55:19Speaker 1: Street and Kneeland Street in a nineteen ninety four interview
- 55:23Speaker 1: he did with Playboy magazine. Just because I went there,
- 55:27Speaker 1: it doesn't mean I engaged in everything that was going on,
- 55:30Speaker 1: Gates said. I ate pizza, red books, watch what was
- 55:33Speaker 1: going on. I went to the dinners. Wallace claimed to
- 55:37Speaker 1: Insider that gates pensiant for socializing with women remained even
- 55:41Speaker 1: after he started dating Melinda Gates in nineteen eighty seven.
- 55:45Speaker 1: Gates was allegedly known to invite friends to swim naked
- 55:48Speaker 1: at his bachelor pad in Laurelhurst, where he rounded up
- 55:52Speaker 1: dancers from local all night nude nightclubs. Wallace said, So,
- 55:57Speaker 1: this dude has everyone come over having a little pool.
- 56:00Speaker 1: He's swimming around in the nude like Caligula over here.
- 56:03Speaker 1: I mean, what's next, He's gonna hire people to nibble
- 56:06Speaker 1: on his feet and his legs while he's swimming around.
- 56:10Speaker 1: Go get the girls from the all night nude clubs.
- 56:14Speaker 1: I don't know if he was physically transported, if he
- 56:16Speaker 1: physically transported them or if he just told them where
- 56:19Speaker 1: to show up. While this told the outlet, Robert X. Kringley,
- 56:23Speaker 1: who wrote a popular computer gossip column for info World,
- 56:26Speaker 1: told Insider that Gates was allegedly often inebriated at tech
- 56:30Speaker 1: events and after parties, and that he got drunk pretty easily.
- 56:35Speaker 1: So not only are you with douche, you're a lightweight.
- 56:38Speaker 1: Stop drinking, Quit acting like an idiot, Quit cheating on
- 56:40Speaker 1: your girlfriends, your wives, And here's an idea, try to
- 56:44Speaker 1: be a decent human. For once, all of us will
- 56:47Speaker 1: have been at some affair where Bill was clearly impaired.
- 56:50Speaker 1: He was happier drunk, Kringley said. Gates, than thirty three,
- 56:54Speaker 1: took a helicopter to the less Arcs ski resort in
- 56:58Speaker 1: the French Alps for an international sales meeting for Microsoft
- 57:01Speaker 1: in the summer of nineteen eighty eight, where he was
- 57:04Speaker 1: allegedly caught lying on top of a woman on the lawn.
- 57:08Speaker 1: The pair were just snuggling after Gates joined his employees
- 57:11Speaker 1: for drinks in a Swiss chalet and partied until the
- 57:14Speaker 1: early morning. Dan Graves, a former Micro Microsoft export manager,
- 57:19Speaker 1: told Inside her Oh yeah, they were just cuddling, folks.
- 57:21Speaker 1: Nothing to see here. Imagine that's your husband out there, ladies,
- 57:25Speaker 1: cuddling with some woman on the lawn, and when he's
- 57:27Speaker 1: supposed to be out of tech conference working. Sure that
- 57:30Speaker 1: would go over well. After he started dating Melinda, Gates
- 57:37Speaker 1: allegedly struggled to commit to her, and she was allegedly
- 57:40Speaker 1: aware of his womanizing. The outlet reported the couple even
- 57:43Speaker 1: broke up for at least a year early in their relationship.
- 57:47Speaker 1: Bill wanted to be married, but he didn't know whether
- 57:50Speaker 1: he could actually commit to it and have Microsoft, Melinda
- 57:53Speaker 1: said in an interview for the Netflix docuseries Inside Bill's Brain,
- 57:58Speaker 1: The Coding Bill Gates. Even after marrying Melinda Gates told
- 58:02Speaker 1: Time magazine in nineteen ninety seven that he still went
- 58:05Speaker 1: on annual vacations to the outer banks of North Carolina
- 58:08Speaker 1: with his ex girlfriend and Winblad, the software entrepreneur whom
- 58:13Speaker 1: he dated from nineteen eighty four to nineteen eighty seven.
- 58:17Speaker 1: Bill and Melinda Gates' personal affairs have been managed by
- 58:20Speaker 1: Watermark Estate Management since at least two thousand and one,
- 58:24Speaker 1: which would allegedly arrange Gates' annual beach trips with wind Blad,
- 58:30Speaker 1: so he was obviously out here creeping all the time,
- 58:33Speaker 1: acting the full hanging out with Epstein, and I'm sure
- 58:35Speaker 1: he was up to other shit as well. That's why
- 58:37Speaker 1: I find it laughable when this guy gets on TV
- 58:40Speaker 1: and talks about, Oh, I'm going to save the world.
- 58:43Speaker 1: See I'm not talking about any weird conspiracy nonsense, right,
- 58:46Speaker 1: I'm talking about the man in General's a dangerous dude
- 58:50Speaker 1: if he has this kind of decision making and these
- 58:52Speaker 1: are the kind of frenzy decides to hang out with.
- 58:55Speaker 1: Are we really going to listen to this guy when
- 58:57Speaker 1: he's talking about the trajectory of the world. I mean,
- 59:00Speaker 1: I'm not going to that's for sure, But I don't know.
- 59:04Speaker 1: I guess people are going to still listen, and you know,
- 59:08Speaker 1: give what he has to say some credit. Me personally,
- 59:11Speaker 1: just another one of the scumbags that was hanging out
- 59:14Speaker 1: with Epstein, or, like I always say, just another fellow traveler.
- 59:20Speaker 1: If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
- 59:22Speaker 1: at Bobby Kapouchi at ProtonMail dot com. That's b O
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- 59:35Speaker 1: b y c ap you Cci. And the article that
- 59:39Speaker 1: we discussed can be found in the description box. All right, folks,
- 59:44Speaker 1: that's it for this one. I'll be back later on
- 59:46Speaker 1: and we'll pick up where we left off.