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8-18-26 Hour 2 - Training camp battles?/What's next for Marvin Mims?/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I thought the flow was good.
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Speaker 3: I thought he did a good job, the substitutions were clean,
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Speaker 3: and yeah, it went pretty smooth. Yeah, felt pretty comfortable
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Speaker 3: with it. You know, all the things that you're looking
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Speaker 3: at closely during the game, some situational stuff that comes up,
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Speaker 3: maybe you make a note that you're going to want.
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Speaker 2: To talk about.
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Speaker 3: But I thought overall, I was pleased with it.
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Speaker 4: Back out here at Broncos Park for another day of
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Speaker 4: Broncos camp, as we had into week two of these
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Speaker 4: preseason games. It is all brought to you by Ramos Law.
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Speaker 4: So that's Sean Payton yesterday again talking about the dynamics
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Speaker 4: between himself and Davis Webb. And I do think it's
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Speaker 4: one of the bigger stories to this offseason. You know,
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Speaker 4: I was telling Chad yesterday, what's weird about this training
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Speaker 4: camp is whenever you enter a camp, you have like
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Speaker 4: two or three different positions that you look at and
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Speaker 4: you're like, well, this guy's gonna be battling with this
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Speaker 4: guy to start here, and the Broncoast are pretty much
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Speaker 4: like set in that department. They have battles. They have
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Speaker 4: battles maybe for backup quarterback or maybe who's gonna be fifth.
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Speaker 5: Sixth wide out?
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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, fifth, who's gonna get the snaps there?
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Speaker 4: That sort of thing.
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Speaker 5: Somebody freaking tight ends are gonna be kept on this team.
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Speaker 4: That's the thing I wanted to get to because we
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Speaker 4: talked about that at the end of the show yesterday, Chad,
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Speaker 4: and it's can you have an elite offense without a
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Speaker 4: great tight end?
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Speaker 6: I think you can, but you would be fighting against
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Speaker 6: the trends of the NFL. And there's a reason why
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Speaker 6: tight ends are just so such an important piece offensively
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Speaker 6: because they pressure they put upon you defensively. Is our
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Speaker 6: tight ends or do we have a Titand on this roster,
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Speaker 6: it's gonna have a thousand yards. But you don't need
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Speaker 6: that to put the pressure on the defense. As we've
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Speaker 6: seen with the Rams, as we've seen with the Seahawks,
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Speaker 6: as we see with the forty nine ers. When you
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Speaker 6: go with multiple tight ends on the field, you force
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Speaker 6: the defense to match your personnel and if those guys
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Speaker 6: can both catch the ball and run block. Now, the
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Speaker 6: defense is always going to be wrong. You choose to
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Speaker 6: go with your nickel package against these multiple tight end
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Speaker 6: sets because you think they're gonna pass the ball, Well,
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Speaker 6: they running down your throat. Okay, let's go with base
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Speaker 6: defense because they got multiple tight ends on the field.
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Speaker 6: Now they passed the ball over our heads. We can't
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Speaker 6: be right.
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Speaker 5: And so John Brown's turning and running.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 6: And so now to look at the Broncos roster. Who
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Speaker 6: on this list presents that issue for you? Evan Ingram,
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Speaker 6: Sure he can get open on a pass route, but
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Speaker 6: is he going to be a great point of attack blocker.
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Speaker 6: No he's not. So he doesn't present that same threat
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Speaker 6: that those tight ends from Seattle, from San Francisco, from
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Speaker 6: the Rams reprience, Adam Trautman. Yeah, he can catch the
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Speaker 6: ball in the short routes. Yeah he can block a
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Speaker 6: little bit, but again he's not that kind of threat.
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Speaker 6: So when you look at this room, not only did
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Speaker 6: they have not have multiple guys they can put on
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Speaker 6: the field at the same time, but none of those
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Speaker 6: guys present the same personnel matchup difficulties that these tight
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Speaker 6: ends I'm talking about on these other teams that really
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Speaker 6: are revolutionizing how offenses are being called in the NFL
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Speaker 6: the last couple of years.
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Speaker 5: When you got a killer one, Brett Ski man, if
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Speaker 5: you got a killer one, it's just like it's like
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Speaker 5: gold Man. It's just I used to remember how many
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Speaker 5: years ago was it were George Kittle that first half
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Speaker 5: he had against the Broncos where he just destroyed two
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Speaker 5: hundred yards. Yeah, I mean, he could have set the
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Speaker 5: all time record. They just yanked him out of the
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Speaker 5: game and said, just go have a hot dog. It
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Speaker 5: was when you've got guys like that, man, it just
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Speaker 5: but it just it changes so much.
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Speaker 4: It elevates your offense so much. Like even in the
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Speaker 4: case of you know, you look at the Colts and
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Speaker 4: they had this great start of the year last year
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Speaker 4: with Daniel Jones, what they six and two, I think,
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Speaker 4: right to start the year before he got hurt. And
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Speaker 4: it's like, I don't think it's coincidental that Tyler Warren
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Speaker 4: gets drafted and their offense takes another step forward because
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Speaker 4: they had talented players on there.
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Speaker 5: Well, how about the guy at the title for the
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Speaker 5: Lions for crying out loud, Sam Laport stepped right in
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Speaker 5: and all a sudden plam with the whole offense exploded.
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Speaker 4: And when la Partie at the back injury last year
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Speaker 4: about midway through the season, the Lions offense was not
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Speaker 4: remotely the same as what it was before. You have
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Speaker 4: talented guys. Even I know the Raiders suck, but I
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Speaker 4: mean brock Bauers, Oh my god, think about what they
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Speaker 4: look like without him.
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Speaker 5: How about McBride. I mean, if the Cardinals were halfway
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Speaker 5: confident or competent, I should say he would just blow
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Speaker 5: this league up.
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Speaker 6: And the guys you're talking about are kind of the
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Speaker 6: one guy on their team. But if you have multiples
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Speaker 6: of those guys in your room, maybe not to that level.
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Speaker 6: No one has two guys that level in their tight
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Speaker 6: end room. But when you can put multiple tight ends
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Speaker 6: on the field, again, the response from a defensive coordinator
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Speaker 6: is immediately, I don't you know what personnel to put
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Speaker 6: on the field. I can't be right here because no
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Speaker 6: matter what I do, if they've got an experienced quarterback,
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Speaker 6: he's gonna look and say three linebackers, throw the ball. Oh,
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Speaker 6: one linebacker, two nickel DB's coming in into the box.
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Speaker 6: We're gonna run it down.
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Speaker 2: Their throat.
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Speaker 6: They force you into a situation defensively that you can't
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Speaker 6: win unless you've got these hybrid defenders. That's why guy
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Speaker 6: like Nick Emon Warri from Seattle is you know the
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Speaker 6: talks of the league defensively right now, because he can
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Speaker 6: step up into the box be a linebacker, but he
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Speaker 6: can also cover your tight ends man to man. Most
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Speaker 6: teams don't have that kind of tweenier kind of guy
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Speaker 6: on the roster because we want we want a linebacker
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Speaker 6: or we want a safety. We don't want someone in between. Well,
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Speaker 6: now you got to find somebody in the draft or
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Speaker 6: for your agency who can be that in between guy.
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Speaker 6: The rest of the league hasn't caught up to this.
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Speaker 6: Multiple tight end offense.
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Speaker 4: Would maybe the best example in recent memory of two
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Speaker 4: tight ends that are really talented Baltimore head Mark Andrews
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Speaker 4: and Isaiah Likely over the last few years that worked
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Speaker 4: out for him. Now likely, I think you just signed
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Speaker 4: with somebody in free agency this offseason. But obviously you
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Speaker 4: had you know, Gronk and Aaron Hernandez back in the
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Speaker 4: day for the Patriots, which was unstoppable.
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Speaker 6: I mean I was about to say a killer combo,
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Speaker 6: but yeah, more ways than one, right, But the exact
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Speaker 6: issue that I'm talking about, they presented that to the
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Speaker 6: defense in a way that defense had no answers, and
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Speaker 6: then they could even take a running back off the field.
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Speaker 6: So now instantly defensively, will you think, oh, they're going
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Speaker 6: to throw the ball, there's no running back on the field.
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Speaker 6: They put Hernandez in the backfield, handed the ball to him. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: he was a damn good running back. So the versatility
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Speaker 6: of the truly great tight ends and what that pressure
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Speaker 6: does to a defense really is almost incalculable.
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Speaker 4: It's one of the things most out of all the
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Speaker 4: good that happened in that first preseason game. There wasn't
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Speaker 4: a lot to complain about. If there's one thing, I'd
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Speaker 4: be like, still didn't see a lot from the tight ends.
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Speaker 4: Ingram had a catch, but I'm more looking like kenn
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Speaker 4: a loaner Can and a Justin Joe Lee kind of
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Speaker 4: Dallon Bentley, Lucas Crowle. I mean, you name one of
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Speaker 4: the fifteen guys are a tight end in this camp
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Speaker 4: right now? Can somebody like that step up and make
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Speaker 4: a play? Really didn't happen that first No, he.
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Speaker 5: Didn't, And I guess it's not going to I want
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Speaker 5: to see your number one quarterback in there that year.
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Speaker 5: That's number one for me. At the same time, it's look,
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Speaker 5: we can look out here, Chad and go, this is boring,
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. There's no hitting to you know,
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Speaker 5: Brett you were talking about. There's really no serious battles.
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Speaker 5: I mean, backup quarterback. I guess that kind of thing.
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Speaker 5: But that's a sign of a damn good football team.
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Speaker 5: And that's also the sign of the retention of these
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Speaker 5: Denver Broncos, the guys that they retained year after year
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Speaker 5: and bringing them back. And so it's a trade off.
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Speaker 5: I mean, you're not getting these camp battles where you
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Speaker 5: know you've got a semi decent football team, but these
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Speaker 5: guys are trying to earn spots and oh we have
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Speaker 5: a brand new starter at this spot and so on.
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Speaker 5: Everything is virtually set. But that's also a sign you're
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Speaker 5: you're a good club man and you're you're expected to
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Speaker 5: do some good things.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, So then it's up to Sean Payton to create
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Speaker 6: competitive situations within each room. How do you, as the
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Speaker 6: dB coach, how do you get Devin Key excited if
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Speaker 6: things are set and he just feels comfortable. I'm just
8:14
Speaker 6: going to be the backup. Well, then we're not. He's
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Speaker 6: not showing up driving every day to get better. He's
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Speaker 6: not showing up trying to maximize every single rep. So
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Speaker 6: there's a yan and a yang to that. Yeah, you've
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Speaker 6: got a veteran team. You guys have had success last year.
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Speaker 6: You bring so many guys back, But then without the
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Speaker 6: lack of camp battles, how do you construct this competitive
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Speaker 6: situation every single day? And we've seen if you watch
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Speaker 6: Hard Knocks, Uh, you know there's been free throw contest. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: you've got to hone your competitive spirit some way. Somehow
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Speaker 6: they had the guys from Seattle holding the uh what
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Speaker 6: are those.
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Speaker 2: Called the sledgehammers? Oh yeah, yeah, yes, yes, from last.
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Speaker 6: Week on Hard Knocks. So the competition thing has to
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Speaker 6: be somehow now introduce into the program even despite maybe
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Speaker 6: not being some open spots on the roster.
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Speaker 4: Well, and I do think there's there's plenty of places
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Speaker 4: where a competition is existing. I mean, backup quarterback is
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Speaker 4: obviously when they gets Rigel's attention. But I'm really curious
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Speaker 4: six hundred and twelve passing attempts last year from Bonnigs
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Speaker 4: too many? How many are those? If you have five
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Speaker 4: wide outs on this team, where does that go? Because
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Speaker 4: you're gonna get, you know, one hundred and twenty for Courtland,
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Speaker 4: You're probably gonna get one hundred and twenty for Wattle targets.
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Speaker 4: I mean, you're gonna have ever Ingram taking seventy or eighty.
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Speaker 4: You're gonna have a running back out of the back field,
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Speaker 4: probably multiple taken around one hundred combined leaves Bryant, Mims,
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Speaker 4: and Franklin. And it's like, well, how does that give
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Speaker 4: get divvied up from there? And who's gonna be sort
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Speaker 4: of the odd man out on the target standpoint of this,
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Speaker 4: because I am curious for the exact reason you were
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Speaker 4: mentioning before, wide receivers are divas. I have not gotten
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Speaker 4: the sense of that from any of the guys here
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Speaker 4: at this camp, at least not to the extent of
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Speaker 4: of the worst of examples or whatever. But you got
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Speaker 4: to think in their heads somewhere, it's like, I want
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Speaker 4: the ball too. How do I get on the field
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Speaker 4: consistently to do that?
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Speaker 5: Well? This is why, this is why you and I
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Speaker 5: look at each other on a daily basis, And when
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Speaker 5: Lakey's here two chat and go is there any room
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Speaker 5: for Marvin Mims? Right? I mean, is there? You know?
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Speaker 5: I know he can play, and I know he's not
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Speaker 5: utilized the way perhaps that we would like him utilize.
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Speaker 5: But where you know, maybe that's the only times you
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Speaker 5: can get the pig to him is just a handful
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Speaker 5: of times from here and there. And if I'm Marvin
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Speaker 5: Mims and I'm saying, look, I think, I think I'm good.
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Speaker 5: I want to play more wide out. I know I'm
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Speaker 5: an All Pro returner. I know I know that. But
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Speaker 5: he's going into the last year of his contract here,
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Speaker 5: I'd be like, hey, man, if I it's eems if
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Speaker 5: I want to play and get reps, I'm gonna have
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Speaker 5: to go someplace else in the future. That's what it
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Speaker 5: feels like, you know.
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Speaker 6: Go back a couple of years to Devon Vley, who
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Speaker 6: seemed to be growing into a role where he was
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Speaker 6: going to be part of the conversation with how many
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Speaker 6: targets did we give this guy? Off the course of
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Speaker 6: the season, Well, it became I think it became clear
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Speaker 6: that he was not going to get that. Let's maximize
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Speaker 6: our value from him and move him on. And I
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Speaker 6: think that's a fair conversation about Marvin Mims. Is the
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Speaker 6: return game enough is to be the gadget guy who
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Speaker 6: comes in and run some reverses and some fly sweeps.
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Speaker 6: Is that going to be enough? Are you gonna look
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Speaker 6: at this? And we talked about this yesterday through the
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Speaker 6: lens of Sean Payton. Hey, I'll take thirty extra yards
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Speaker 6: a game of field position because we have this guy
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Speaker 6: returning kicks for us or an occasional gadget for us.
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Speaker 6: And I think George Payton's thinking, Hey, I can get
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Speaker 6: That's what I can do. And after this year his
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Speaker 6: contract is up, he's gonna want to bump and pay
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Speaker 6: and if he can't get the number of targets needed,
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Speaker 6: he's probably gonna up going someplace anyway. So we have
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Speaker 6: no chance of retaining him.
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Speaker 4: So what are you all in this year? Because you
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Speaker 4: were this close to a Super Bowl last year? You're like,
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Speaker 4: I don't care, right, yeah.
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Speaker 6: And next year we'll take care of itself. With this year,
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Speaker 6: we have a Super Bowl roster and I want that
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Speaker 6: extra thirty yards of field position for my offense every game.
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Speaker 5: I know you didn't worry trying, Yeah, I know you
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Speaker 5: didn't worry about this because you're focused on your job, right,
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Speaker 5: But I wonder how many good personnel guys around the
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Speaker 5: league are looking over here and going, hmmm, they're kind
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Speaker 5: of keeping an eye on Marvin Mims with the Broncos situations.
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Speaker 4: I bet they're looking at the cornerback room like you,
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Speaker 4: guys don't want to keep Johnny.
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Speaker 5: Barron exactly right, And those are assets that, like you said,
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Speaker 5: George Peyton could move to to improve his football team.
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Speaker 5: But man, I certainly want to run this back. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: just say, all right, we'll take our chances here, and Marvin,
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Speaker 5: you're gonna have to live with what you know, with
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Speaker 5: what you get in this offense. But man, we were
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Speaker 5: so close. I want to get there again. Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I mean, if you're a personnel guy, you've only got
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Speaker 6: so much time in the day. Are you gonna be
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Speaker 6: looking at the Broncos roster or the Falcons roster? You're
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Speaker 6: gonna look at the Broncos Roster's way more good players here.
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Speaker 6: There's way more guys who have experienced high level championship football,
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Speaker 6: experience good coaching. So to bring a Marvin Mims into
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Speaker 6: your wide receiving room if you're some team that's trying
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Speaker 6: to find a way it's back up into relevancy. Uh,
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Speaker 6: that's a move you would make. That's a smart move
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Speaker 6: for you. So yeah, they're gonna be watching the waiver wire,
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Speaker 6: but more importantly, they're gonna be counting the number of
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Speaker 6: targets these guys are getting and trying to read the
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Speaker 6: tea leaves so they can go up to their general
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Speaker 6: manager and say, hey, we think this guy is right
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Speaker 6: for a trade. We think George Payton will probably be
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Speaker 6: willing to move Marvin Mims. He only caught five balls
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Speaker 6: this preseason. Clearly he's not gonna be a part of
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Speaker 6: their offense.
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Speaker 4: Ramos Laws. So a couple of texts coming through off that.
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Speaker 5: Leak while we have this asset here in Chad Brown. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: and I consider him an asset.
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Speaker 4: Huh.
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Speaker 5: I know you think he's just a guy. I think
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Speaker 5: he's an asset.
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Speaker 6: You keep phrasing it, and you the real emphasis on
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Speaker 6: the first part of that word.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there's there. Okay, no, But but I love.
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Speaker 4: Myself.
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Speaker 2: Okay, you do that.
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Speaker 5: I love I love having you on here because we
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Speaker 5: can pick your brain about so many things in regards
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Speaker 5: to this football team, in the in the league as
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Speaker 5: a whole. It's cool.
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Speaker 4: So I have a story I want to ask you
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Speaker 4: about in a second, Chad. But a couple of texts
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Speaker 4: coming through here, gentlemen. Marvin Mims. Is he just a
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Speaker 4: special teams returner guy or is he a receiver? Another Texter?
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Speaker 4: Mims is a better receiver than Franklin and Bryant, Like,
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Speaker 4: I don't know if those It's hard for me to judge.
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Speaker 4: And here's why. I don't know how much you have
15:42
Speaker 4: a known or listened to this show with with us, Chad,
15:46
Speaker 4: but I have always been a Marvin Mims guy. It
15:48
Speaker 4: has been utterly confusing to me why he struggles to
15:52
Speaker 4: get snaps on the field. And I will get so
15:54
Speaker 4: frustrated when I always see this snap count at the
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Speaker 4: end of these games and he has less snaps than
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Speaker 4: Little Jordan Humphrey. Now I know why Sean Payton does that.
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Speaker 4: He likes Little Jordan Humphrey's size for blocking and all
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Speaker 4: that sort of stuff. I get the reasoning for it,
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Speaker 4: but I feel like this guy, when he's on the field,
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Speaker 4: makes plays. And there's no better example to me than
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Speaker 4: the playoff game against Buffalo. He is your leading receiver,
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Speaker 4: made big time plays for you. But the only reason
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Speaker 4: why he got on the field was Franklin's hammy blew
16:26
Speaker 4: up and Pat Brian got a concussion in that game,
16:28
Speaker 4: so he's forced to play snaps and then played awesome.
16:31
Speaker 4: So I don't get outside of maybe just a size
16:35
Speaker 4: thing as to why he doesn't play. At the same time,
16:39
Speaker 4: you traded a first round pick for a guy who's
16:41
Speaker 4: the same height as Marvin Mims.
16:44
Speaker 6: It's not a size thing. Okay, bring you into the coaching.
16:48
Speaker 5: Room, please please her Coach Brown learn up here.
16:52
Speaker 6: Yes, so bring into the coaching room. We're watching tape
16:55
Speaker 6: and you begin to get a trust level for each
16:58
Speaker 6: of the guys, execution wise, conditioning wise, all the factors
17:04
Speaker 6: that make you confident in a player in a critical situation.
17:07
Speaker 6: And clearly it's not some conspiracy that Sean Payton doesn't
17:12
Speaker 6: like Marvin Mims. Coach likes everybody. He loves the guys
17:16
Speaker 6: who he can trust. He loves the guy in third
17:18
Speaker 6: and eight situation. I know exactly what this guy is
17:21
Speaker 6: going to do. I have complete one hundred percent trust
17:24
Speaker 6: this guy is going to execute it properly. He's gonna
17:27
Speaker 6: run it right, he's going to be on time, all
17:29
Speaker 6: the things that go into executing a play. So Marvin
17:32
Speaker 6: Mims is clearly not giving the coaches that trust based
17:35
Speaker 6: on the practice field, and so when the opportunity comes
17:39
Speaker 6: into games, I'm sure they're happy when he's able to
17:41
Speaker 6: make the play, But at the same time, I think
17:44
Speaker 6: they're probably holding their breath that it's actually going to
17:47
Speaker 6: work out based on what they've seen on the field,
17:49
Speaker 6: because if they saw that on the practice field all
17:52
Speaker 6: the time, then he would be a bigger part of it.
17:54
Speaker 6: It's just it's simply how it works. He's invested in
17:57
Speaker 6: being the most successful coach he can be. Therefore the
18:00
Speaker 6: players have to meet a certain trust standard. Marvin Mims
18:04
Speaker 6: hasn't gotten there.
18:05
Speaker 5: You know, we talk about that a lot. And when
18:07
Speaker 5: we talk hockey right and talk about the abs and
18:09
Speaker 5: and Brett, what do I say to you, I say, listen,
18:12
Speaker 5: this guy is a fire and forget missile for the coach.
18:15
Speaker 5: I mean, he knows that in this fifteen seventeen minutes
18:18
Speaker 5: he's out there exactly. The coaches love predictability. I have
18:22
Speaker 5: a player they love to know. Listen. He may not
18:24
Speaker 5: be the greatest guy in the world, of the fastest
18:26
Speaker 5: guy in the world, or whatever, but I know exactly
18:28
Speaker 5: what I'm gonna get out of him, and every time
18:30
Speaker 5: I deploy him, I am confident I'm going to get
18:32
Speaker 5: that exact thing out of this guy. And it may
18:34
Speaker 5: not be at a super high elite level, but I
18:36
Speaker 5: know exactly what I'm getting and it helps a lot. Man,
18:39
Speaker 5: there's the unpredictability for coaches. I'm sure Chad drives them crazy.
18:43
Speaker 6: Drives them up the wall. And you mentioned little Jordan Humphrey.
18:46
Speaker 6: So from a skill set standpoint, outside of the blocking realm,
18:50
Speaker 6: you would say Marvin Mims is a eight and a
18:52
Speaker 6: half on the receiver skiff. I'm a skill set okay,
18:55
Speaker 6: Jordan Humphrey's probably a seven. Yeah, but Sean Payn's gonna
18:59
Speaker 6: take that seven skill set because he knows what he's
19:01
Speaker 6: gonna do every single chair, and he knows what he's
19:03
Speaker 6: gonna do in the run game, and so he's got
19:05
Speaker 6: such confidence. Yeah, this is a guy's a seven, but
19:08
Speaker 6: I can put him in positions to be successful versus
19:11
Speaker 6: this other guy who eight and a half ability. But
19:15
Speaker 6: on this third down, is it going to be a
19:16
Speaker 6: three and not understand the route tree in the combination
19:19
Speaker 6: of timing, or is he going to be a nine
19:21
Speaker 6: his actual skill set is going to show. Well, we're
19:23
Speaker 6: only gonna get what eleven twelve third down situations over
19:27
Speaker 6: the course of the game. I can't blow one on
19:30
Speaker 6: a guy who I don't trust, I don't believe is
19:32
Speaker 6: going to be able to execute consistently.
19:35
Speaker 5: But if you don't, somebody else will. I'm telling you
19:38
Speaker 5: if it was yeah, well if it was me, if
19:41
Speaker 5: it was being like again, one of these personnel guys
19:43
Speaker 5: sniffing around. I have a thing for Marvin Mims. I
19:45
Speaker 5: think Brett does too.
19:46
Speaker 2: I do too. I called his games in Oklahoma. He
19:48
Speaker 2: was explosive.
19:50
Speaker 5: He's been on this program. I like him as a dude.
19:53
Speaker 5: He's an engaging son of a gun. I really like him.
19:55
Speaker 5: He's a he's hella honest to be honest. I mean,
19:57
Speaker 5: he just kind of says it like it is, you know,
20:01
Speaker 5: And I think he's a damn good player. If I'm
20:02
Speaker 5: a personnel guy, I am ringing up Peyton or I
20:06
Speaker 5: am keeping an heavy eye on him and somebody will
20:10
Speaker 5: pay him some money in the offseason if the Broncos won't.
20:13
Speaker 4: Adam Schefter's gonna join us. At nine twenty this morning,
20:17
Speaker 4: speaking of he had a tweet from a couple of
20:20
Speaker 4: minutes ago. It was about Roger Goodell, and he said
20:24
Speaker 4: this from Roger Goodell, it is inevitable that the league
20:28
Speaker 4: will eventually have a team permanently based outside the United States.
20:32
Speaker 4: Now that could mean Mexico City, or it could mean London,
20:36
Speaker 4: or it could mean any one of those places. Just
20:39
Speaker 4: curious from a player's perspective, if somebody was based entirely
20:45
Speaker 4: outside the US, and let's say in Europe, you know,
20:48
Speaker 4: they game planned these entire like, all right, we're gonna
20:51
Speaker 4: do this this week when we get to London. Then
20:53
Speaker 4: we're gonna have a bye week afterwards to make sure
20:55
Speaker 4: that we recover like the Broncos didn't do that last
20:57
Speaker 4: year they played in London in that terrible game against
20:59
Speaker 4: the Jets that they won, came back and played the
21:02
Speaker 4: Giants the next week and had to score thirty three
21:04
Speaker 4: points in the fourth quarter to win.
21:06
Speaker 5: That is it.
21:07
Speaker 4: Do you think that would be difficult on players from
21:10
Speaker 4: a standpoint of travel coming back If there was a
21:12
Speaker 4: team permanently based and let's say London.
21:15
Speaker 2: They would.
21:16
Speaker 6: The league has an international office, so they are focused
21:19
Speaker 6: on the growth of the game internationally. So this is
21:21
Speaker 6: to Roger Goodell's point that Adam Scheffi just posted, this
21:24
Speaker 6: is going to happen.
21:25
Speaker 2: Yes, and so.
21:26
Speaker 6: Whether it's one team or a whole division of teams,
21:30
Speaker 6: NFL fans just get get ready. This is going to happen.
21:32
Speaker 6: So they'll have to structure some things creativity to creative
21:37
Speaker 6: to make all this happen. You know, they play four
21:41
Speaker 6: games in a row over there, four home games in
21:43
Speaker 6: a row against you know, all their division, they'll come
21:46
Speaker 6: over here and do a month of play over here.
21:48
Speaker 6: There's got to be something like that. They'll have to
21:50
Speaker 6: be a home base for that team here in the
21:54
Speaker 6: US where they'll operate out of When they play multiple
21:57
Speaker 6: games over here, the travel back and forth is just
21:59
Speaker 6: going to be too much. It'll have to be some
22:00
Speaker 6: kind of wiggle room with compensation, with different tax laws
22:04
Speaker 6: and all the time.
22:04
Speaker 5: Can't we get a friggin can we get a supersonic
22:07
Speaker 5: jet again? I mean the Concord. I know why they
22:11
Speaker 5: shut it down, but it lost flight. I bet they
22:14
Speaker 5: hauled ass n if the NFL could, I mean, the
22:18
Speaker 5: NFL could afford to design and build their own, you know,
22:20
Speaker 5: a supersonic jet. Now, hey, uh, I told you during
22:24
Speaker 5: the break, I'm gonna explain to you why I'm a moron.
22:25
Speaker 5: You can tell me whether or not I'm a moron,
22:27
Speaker 5: both of you. I already know what you think. So
22:29
Speaker 5: now you're an asset?
22:29
Speaker 2: Okay?
22:32
Speaker 5: But am I the only one that's in the morning.
22:34
Speaker 5: I like early in the morning on a weekend, and
22:36
Speaker 5: I'm flipping through the channels and I'm watching football. You
22:38
Speaker 5: know what I'm watching?
22:39
Speaker 2: The e f A.
22:43
Speaker 5: Is it the e f A or the EP Yeah,
22:45
Speaker 5: ef A European Football Alliance And so was it Sunday?
22:50
Speaker 5: It must have been Sunday. I'm watching the Munich Ravens
22:54
Speaker 5: versus the Frankfurt GA. I don't know why you're doing that.
22:56
Speaker 5: I don't know a friggin guy on either team, I
22:59
Speaker 5: don't know. And they play like in these really mutant
23:01
Speaker 5: little soccer stadiums. They know there's hardly anybody there. And
23:04
Speaker 5: I'm sitting there watching EFA football, and then I think
23:07
Speaker 5: that the day before I was watching Raiders, Tyroll, Treol, Tyrroll, whatever,
23:12
Speaker 5: if the hell is that, I have no idea, but
23:13
Speaker 5: I'm watching it. They're in Inspurg, Austria. What do you
23:16
Speaker 5: want me to say to this, Well, they're playing What
23:18
Speaker 5: my point is, They're playing football all over Europe right now, anyway,
23:21
Speaker 5: right right, And so I'm sure the league probably likes that.
23:24
Speaker 5: The NFL is like they're growing some fans and that
23:26
Speaker 5: kind of thing. Now you're gonna be, you know, somebody
23:29
Speaker 5: expanding perhaps into Munich or well here's or friggin London
23:33
Speaker 5: and everybody eris.
23:35
Speaker 4: I mean, Vix asked this question. He's like, why are
23:37
Speaker 4: they playing games in Rio dejon Era? Why are they
23:39
Speaker 4: doing this? It's the only market that they have that's untapped.
23:43
Speaker 4: There's nobody in America that's like, you either love football
23:46
Speaker 4: or you don't watch it. There's no in between, and
23:48
Speaker 4: there's no convincing you. If you aren't watching right now
23:51
Speaker 4: to watch it, you're either in or out. The only
23:53
Speaker 4: place you can go now is outside the country. It's
23:56
Speaker 4: the only way you can grow your market. And so
23:58
Speaker 4: I totally understand the strategy towards all of this. I
24:03
Speaker 4: think having teams permanently based it feels like it would
24:09
Speaker 4: pose a problem.
24:10
Speaker 5: That's all.
24:11
Speaker 6: The league wants to have forty teams. They want to
24:14
Speaker 6: get two more divisions, one at each conference, overseas divisions.
24:18
Speaker 6: So it's not gonna happen next five years. I ain't
24:21
Speaker 6: even done the next ten years. But that's why games
24:23
Speaker 6: are in Rio and there's all these others.
24:25
Speaker 5: How many dudes you're gonna want to move from the
24:27
Speaker 5: US to to frigging Munich, Germany and play football there
24:30
Speaker 5: in the national Football game?
24:31
Speaker 2: Question? Have you guys?
24:33
Speaker 5: I guess if the money is?
24:34
Speaker 2: If the money, have you seen the salaries and people
24:36
Speaker 2: make where else?
24:37
Speaker 6: She gonna make nineteen million bucks to be a backup
24:40
Speaker 6: edge guy?
24:41
Speaker 2: Right?
24:41
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, and games will be on like at three
24:43
Speaker 5: in the morning, so that i'd be good. Right, you
24:47
Speaker 5: get a little somnia switch on the NFL at three
24:49
Speaker 5: in the morning, it's you know, frigging one of the
24:52
Speaker 5: afternoon over there.
24:53
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:54
Speaker 6: I still think the Mark Cuban quote from uh what
24:56
Speaker 6: ten years ago about you know, fat picks getting slaughtered.
25:00
Speaker 6: The NFL, in its quest for more money, at some point,
25:02
Speaker 6: is going to oversaturate the market. We don't want more
25:06
Speaker 6: football unless you're mos watching European weird football on a
25:11
Speaker 6: Sunday morning. We want more good football. Just because the
25:15
Speaker 6: ESPN puts on Ball State on Tuesday night, I'm not
25:18
Speaker 6: gonna watch it because I want to see more good football.
25:21
Speaker 6: That's why spring football professional has never taken off, because
25:24
Speaker 6: it's not good football. We're not tied to it. No
25:26
Speaker 6: one grew up on their couching next year to dad
25:30
Speaker 6: wearing the Birmingham Stallions hats. You know, people want to
25:33
Speaker 6: be tied into what is the NFL the iconic franchises.
25:37
Speaker 6: I think the international thing can grow because there are
25:41
Speaker 6: fan bases in those countries and states. But it's going
25:46
Speaker 6: to be interesting how they get to these forty teams.
25:49
Speaker 6: I think the least of their worries is how does
25:52
Speaker 6: a player feel that's so low on their list right now?
25:56
Speaker 5: I used to do. Sacramento Gold Miners football.
26:00
Speaker 2: Good for you.
26:00
Speaker 5: Kirwin Bell was our was our quarterback. David Archer was
26:03
Speaker 5: our quarterback. Okay, okay, So that's that's how far ago
26:06
Speaker 5: that was. I know, you're like, good for you.
26:09
Speaker 2: That how many people came through those games?
26:11
Speaker 5: Twenty thousand? Maybe for you, but really yeah, yeah, because
26:15
Speaker 5: they've teen twenty twenty thousand the.
26:17
Speaker 6: Spring League which just finished up. They didn't get twenty thousand.
26:20
Speaker 5: I know, it's crazy, I mean, but but that was
26:22
Speaker 5: a unique march. That was when you brought Birmingham Stallions
26:26
Speaker 5: and uh, you know, I can't remember the last Las
26:28
Speaker 5: Vegas Posse what's his face? Uh? The four Patriots coach
26:33
Speaker 5: Ray what was his name? He was the head coach
26:35
Speaker 5: of the Las Vegas Posse.
26:37
Speaker 4: So I can't remember which version of the league it was,
26:40
Speaker 4: the USFL, the UFL, whatever this was. But this was
26:43
Speaker 4: I don't know ten fifteen years ago. There was a
26:47
Speaker 4: team in Omaha called the Omaha Nighthawks and they sold
26:50
Speaker 4: out their games because people in Omaha, if you give
26:51
Speaker 4: them something to do, they'll.
26:52
Speaker 2: Go do it.
26:53
Speaker 4: But what they because Omaha sucks, what they did, disagree,
26:56
Speaker 4: but what they did was smart on their part. They
27:00
Speaker 4: knew that the good football was not something that was
27:02
Speaker 4: gonna happen. Their quarterback was Eric Crouch, their running back
27:06
Speaker 4: was a Mon Green. There you got to I'm getting
27:08
Speaker 4: your nostalgia right back in the backfield, and we're gonna
27:12
Speaker 4: do it that way.
27:13
Speaker 6: So these leagues can't take off, but they can find
27:16
Speaker 6: the Saint Louis version of whatever the league was, the
27:20
Speaker 6: BattleHawks but I can't remember what it was. The XFL
27:22
Speaker 6: that became the UFL and they merged together. That Saint
27:26
Speaker 6: Louis team was putting like thirty five forty thousand people
27:29
Speaker 6: in the stands, but that was the only team in
27:32
Speaker 6: the league that did good attendance wise, So the league
27:35
Speaker 6: itself sucked. One organization, one city was willing to support it.
27:40
Speaker 6: And it's got to be a team that lost in
27:42
Speaker 6: a city that's lost, a team like Saint Louis or
27:45
Speaker 6: Omaha which has no professional sports. It's got to be
27:47
Speaker 6: something like that. But to think that it can be
27:50
Speaker 6: a competitor to the NFL outside of college football, so
27:54
Speaker 6: much money has been lost in that pursuit over the
27:56
Speaker 6: last forty to fifty years. It seems mind blowing to
27:59
Speaker 6: me that someone else steps up.
28:01
Speaker 5: I mean, if they can make it happen, and the
28:03
Speaker 5: AFL did it obviously, then they got the merge in
28:05
Speaker 5: the sixties.
28:06
Speaker 4: But let me give you something the motion. She went
28:08
Speaker 4: to one Nighthawks game and it was bizarre, Like Crouch
28:11
Speaker 4: was forty two years old. The mong Green was like
28:13
Speaker 4: thirty nine. I'm like, I don't know what we're doing here.
28:15
Speaker 4: He says, are gonna get hurt. But halftime comes along.
28:18
Speaker 4: They played it at the Triple A Baseball stage. No,
28:22
Speaker 4: a limo pulls out in the middle of the center field.
28:25
Speaker 4: It's George Clinton in Parliament.
28:27
Speaker 5: Oh, you're kidding me. It was the greatest home would
28:30
Speaker 5: be big fur coat popping out, my god, playing a
28:34
Speaker 5: flashlight boom, but that would have been killing.
28:38
Speaker 4: And I thought to myself, was like, they got George
28:40
Speaker 4: Clinton for this game.
28:42
Speaker 2: The game.
28:44
Speaker 5: Done there for the con secondary. Hey, I just saw
28:47
Speaker 5: Earth again. They were so good. Uh, London guards coming
28:51
Speaker 5: in and they're putting a football team in Milan, Italy too.
28:54
Speaker 5: So these are the expansion teams in this e FA
28:56
Speaker 5: come up for twenty twenty seven, and I woke up again.
28:59
Speaker 5: This is the way I think it's early in the
29:01
Speaker 5: morning on Saturday, and I'm opening the blinds by the
29:04
Speaker 5: TV and I go, damn it, you know, I wish
29:05
Speaker 5: College Game Day was on Right now I'm in I'm
29:08
Speaker 5: getting I'm starting to get in that mode where I
29:10
Speaker 5: wish I wish College Game Day was on. I'm antsy.
29:14
Speaker 5: Now it's the freaking eighteenth. When do we start the
29:19
Speaker 5: well days are so less than two weeks.
29:20
Speaker 6: Something like that, the last weekend in August because there's
29:23
Speaker 6: games early part of that weekend, and then ah, gosh,
29:27
Speaker 6: I think I've got what Stanford Miami on Friday. That's
29:29
Speaker 6: September third, I think.
29:31
Speaker 5: Our Yeah, yeah, I liked I liked the Big Fox
29:35
Speaker 5: Noon off, The Big Fox Off. I like that.
29:37
Speaker 4: I just looked this up because I see if they
29:39
Speaker 4: wanted to time up, there's still their their typical TV
29:42
Speaker 4: slates in America. What it would be So a seven
29:45
Speaker 4: pm game in Munich would be at eleven.
29:47
Speaker 2: Which is doable, that's doable for both sides.
29:50
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, which is doable for both sides, and it
29:52
Speaker 4: could still keep their TV windows. It just feels like
29:55
Speaker 4: there'd be a lot of logistic coupes like that to
29:57
Speaker 4: jump through.
29:58
Speaker 6: Again, I think the League does not. They've already shown
30:01
Speaker 6: they don't care about players with turf fields versus grass fields.
30:04
Speaker 6: So to think that, oh, poor you, you gotta live
30:07
Speaker 6: in London for five months, you think I give a
30:09
Speaker 6: crap about that.
30:10
Speaker 4: What did you think when they when they redid all
30:14
Speaker 4: of those stadiums for the World Cup, ripped out the turf,
30:17
Speaker 4: putting grass for the soccer players. I'm sure that made
30:19
Speaker 4: the NFL guys feel great, didn't they.
30:21
Speaker 2: Ah.
30:23
Speaker 6: I mean, even Garrett Bowles is a you know, quiet dude,
30:26
Speaker 6: even he's got something to say about how ridiculous that is. Yeah,
30:30
Speaker 6: the owners are willing to bend over for the World
30:33
Speaker 6: Cup for the money, but they are not going to
30:35
Speaker 6: accept the demands of their players, who they pay, in
30:39
Speaker 6: some cases tens of millions of dollars to.
30:41
Speaker 5: Yeah, because yeah, I think it's just about money, Chad,
30:43
Speaker 5: Because those fields are gonna get you know, in the
30:45
Speaker 5: winter time, those fields get torn up, right, and you
30:48
Speaker 5: got big guys, you know, falling down and whatnot, the
30:50
Speaker 5: first chancy soccer players running around. So the cost of
30:54
Speaker 5: upkeep like the Broncos do. Hell, the Broncos replace the
30:57
Speaker 5: entire field at the cost of four hundred gas in
30:59
Speaker 5: the season season the last of the year, and that
31:03
Speaker 5: was that the Russell Wilson here where they were out
31:05
Speaker 5: of the playoffs, like didn't even matter.
31:07
Speaker 6: So it goes to show the right owners are willing
31:10
Speaker 6: to do it. And there's no excuse. I know in
31:13
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh they have pitt playing at the same stadium where
31:16
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh plays, and then late in the season the high
31:19
Speaker 6: school championships are in that same stadium on the grass field.
31:22
Speaker 6: They would just have to have a crew ready to
31:25
Speaker 6: do what the Broncos did, rip it out and put
31:27
Speaker 6: a new one in. Heck, in New England they had
31:31
Speaker 6: to replace the entire artificial surface because the service they
31:34
Speaker 6: put in after the World Cup didn't meet NFLPA standards.
31:38
Speaker 6: So it just goes to show they've got money to
31:40
Speaker 6: do this, they're just unwilling.
31:42
Speaker 5: Okay, August twenty ninth, man San Jose State versus USC.
31:46
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31:49
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32:13
Speaker 4: signed a one year deal with the Indianapolis Colts.
32:16
Speaker 5: What does he have left?
32:18
Speaker 4: I think he's still a solid wide receiver.
32:20
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously breakdown every single year.
32:24
Speaker 2: You've said that before.
32:25
Speaker 5: Is I wrong about that? No?
32:26
Speaker 4: I think that he's been pretty damn healthy.
32:28
Speaker 5: Why do I think that Keenan Allen breaks down all
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Speaker 5: the time? Why I think that's in my recently? Hang on,
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Speaker 4: I don't know why.
32:39
Speaker 5: It's like Chad's seventy seven Chevy Chavette.
32:42
Speaker 4: But this is crack dash. So he had eighty one
32:46
Speaker 4: catches last year, seven hundred and seventy seven yards, forty
32:49
Speaker 4: one forty one four touchdowns. Like, he's still a solid
32:53
Speaker 4: wide receiver. Did you guys know there is no active
32:56
Speaker 4: player in the NFL at wide receiver with more receptions
33:00
Speaker 4: than Keenan Allen, He's been around.
33:01
Speaker 5: A long time.
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Speaker 2: Mike Evans.
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Speaker 4: No, not Mike Evans. So the list is the number
33:07
Speaker 4: one guy is Travis Kelcey, but he's a tight end.
33:10
Speaker 4: It's Keenan Allen, Devonte Adams, DeAndre Hopkins, and Stefan Diggs.
33:14
Speaker 5: Wow.
33:15
Speaker 4: Wait, Mike Evans is not on that list of catches.
33:17
Speaker 4: He is second in yards Mike Evan. Okay, so, but catches, no,
33:24
Speaker 4: just weird. He's had a very interesting career. He's never
33:27
Speaker 4: been considered like the best wide receiver in the NFL,
33:31
Speaker 4: but look at his numbers. Every single year, he's just
33:33
Speaker 4: racking up the stats.
33:34
Speaker 2: He's productive.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm glad we got a college football guy here too.
33:38
Speaker 5: I'll go next, if that's okay with you. A. It
33:42
Speaker 5: was the most overrated team in college football in the
33:44
Speaker 5: top twenty five right now, maybe Alabama might be Alabama.
33:51
Speaker 5: I was reading an article from CBS Sports. They had
33:54
Speaker 5: two that they were picking on. Two teams they picked on.
33:57
Speaker 5: Number one in terms of overrated is number eight Texas
34:00
Speaker 5: A and.
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Speaker 6: M okay, okay, I.
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Speaker 5: Could see that, and their second most overrated team is
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Speaker 5: from number fourteen USC.
34:11
Speaker 6: It's gonna be an interesting season. I think the ability
34:14
Speaker 6: to predict how some of these teams are gonna play
34:17
Speaker 6: is impossible, and we talked about that yesterday. It's really
34:20
Speaker 6: some of these teams they are hitching their hopes on
34:24
Speaker 6: a transfer quarterback, and is that quarterback gonna work with
34:27
Speaker 6: this system? Is he gonna be able to step up
34:29
Speaker 6: a level of play if he's from a smaller school.
34:32
Speaker 6: So I know USC's returning their quarterback, so that doesn't
34:36
Speaker 6: seem to be a question there. But I've got two
34:39
Speaker 6: USC games early this year. I'll get a chance to
34:43
Speaker 6: see who they are. But I don't get into the
34:47
Speaker 6: preseason rankings that much because it's just it's impossible to know.
34:53
Speaker 6: Some of these schools are counting on guys who showed
34:56
Speaker 6: up on campus two weeks ago. Geez, they weren't they
34:59
Speaker 6: didn't they more in spring ball, they shut up on
35:01
Speaker 6: campus two weeks ago, and they're counting on this guy
35:04
Speaker 6: to play significant times.
35:05
Speaker 5: So they don't even know their way to the meal
35:07
Speaker 5: hall yet, right They're still trying to figure that out.
35:09
Speaker 6: No idea where they pick up books anything, So it'll
35:12
Speaker 6: be it's always fascinating now in college football. With the
35:15
Speaker 6: first couple of weeks where there's this massive reslotting of
35:19
Speaker 6: expectations that when people go, oh, that team's not going
35:22
Speaker 6: to be very good and we completely overlooked this team
35:25
Speaker 6: over here.
35:25
Speaker 4: What do you think of Juju Lewis heading into year two?
35:28
Speaker 6: Typically as a player, you make your biggest improvement from
35:30
Speaker 6: year one to year two. So to be thrown in
35:33
Speaker 6: last year, I thought he looked like a guy who
35:37
Speaker 6: was thrown in and now with an entire spring, with
35:40
Speaker 6: a new coordinator, it is a new offense for him.
35:43
Speaker 6: There are some new expectations from his style of play.
35:48
Speaker 6: But I think the high school ranking from a skill
35:51
Speaker 6: set seems to be accurate.
35:54
Speaker 5: But on the flip side of that, three most underrated teams,
35:58
Speaker 5: Number five Texas underrated. Believe it or not, that's what
36:01
Speaker 5: they say. Really that that's what they say. Also number
36:04
Speaker 5: seven Miami underrated and also coming at the very end
36:08
Speaker 5: of the underrated Sex State Hornets in the MAC which
36:11
Speaker 5: I thought was really interesting. I think they got a
36:13
Speaker 5: real good opportunity to win that.
36:14
Speaker 4: Count like a whole line.
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Speaker 5: Well, it's right, it's right here in black and white.
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Speaker 5: You want to read it, Yeah, I do. Yeah, Sex
36:19
Speaker 5: State Hornets right there right after Washington Sex State Hornets
36:23
Speaker 5: underrated in the MAC.
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Speaker 4: It doesn't say that, No, he doesn't say that right
36:29
Speaker 4: away when we ask moch what conference is sex State
36:32
Speaker 4: his alma mater in he gave the wrong conference and
36:36
Speaker 4: forgot they switched to the MAC.
36:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I did. We were just going over how
36:40
Speaker 5: about sex State at UMass. I don't have to be
36:42
Speaker 5: a barn burner. Hey, there's a.
36:46
Speaker 4: Micah Parsons has a podcast and he's very active on
36:49
Speaker 4: his podcast, and can you give them a little bit
36:52
Speaker 4: of what he did? NELLIEFC West.
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna stick with the Broncos. Number one they did
37:00
Speaker 7: was one a couple of people, but I still think
37:02
Speaker 7: their power loaded and they added Jayalen Waddell to the offense.
37:06
Speaker 7: I am going to take the Los Angeles Chargers a
37:09
Speaker 7: number two over Kansas City. I do not think Kansas
37:13
Speaker 7: City put enough around Patrick Mahomes to win the AFC
37:16
Speaker 7: West and go pick another time to run. They let
37:19
Speaker 7: go of every bit of their talent pretty much. Trent
37:23
Speaker 7: McDuffie left. You just don't let those type of players left.
37:28
Speaker 5: So I brought this off. Michael Parson, do it?
37:33
Speaker 4: Michael Parson?
37:35
Speaker 5: No, he doesn't sound like a very engaging guy.
37:37
Speaker 4: Okay, but listen, here's my problem. And people thought I
37:42
Speaker 4: was I was being an idiot and saying this in
37:44
Speaker 4: the appetizer, and maybe that's true. I know that all
37:47
Speaker 4: these players have podcasts and stuff like that. Is it
37:50
Speaker 4: weird to you that an active player in the league
37:52
Speaker 4: is saying about another team they let all their talent go,
37:54
Speaker 4: they didn't do enough to help out this quarterback before
37:57
Speaker 4: the like, is that weird or not?
37:58
Speaker 2: Yeah?
37:59
Speaker 6: Secondary to Moses criticism of Michael Parsons as a host,
38:04
Speaker 6: secondary to his ranking of the ABC West is.
38:08
Speaker 2: What are you doing?
38:09
Speaker 4: Man?
38:10
Speaker 2: What the hell are you doing?
38:13
Speaker 6: And so his podcast he frequently gets into territory that
38:18
Speaker 6: I think no current players should get into. I don't
38:21
Speaker 6: have a pushback with players having podcasts. Podcasts are great.
38:24
Speaker 6: It's an opportunity for you to express yourself in the
38:26
Speaker 6: new media landscape. How fun grow your brand so you
38:30
Speaker 6: can then move into this when you're done playing. So
38:32
Speaker 6: you don't, you know, have to suffer like me and
38:35
Speaker 6: be on with YouTube clowns. I can, but outside of that,
38:42
Speaker 6: that's not smart. It's just not what a player who's
38:46
Speaker 6: currently in the game should be doing. I know PS
38:49
Speaker 6: two has a podcast, but he doesn't go into this
38:52
Speaker 6: kind of specific information about upcoming opponents, who you're going
38:57
Speaker 6: to be playing, ranking teams, describing the on the team,
39:01
Speaker 6: all that kind of stuff.
39:02
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, I get people said that I was
39:04
Speaker 4: overreacting or something to do this in the appetizer. I'm like,
39:06
Speaker 4: I just think it'd be weird if certain in his
39:08
Speaker 4: podcast said yeah, you know what, I just think the
39:10
Speaker 4: Raiders are going to be terrible this year. Wouldn't you
39:12
Speaker 4: be like, why would you say any of this out loud?
39:15
Speaker 5: I don't know, right, why is he saying anything else?
39:17
Speaker 5: He just sounds like I think the AFC West Broncos
39:22
Speaker 5: are still and they lost a couple guys, and then yeah,
39:26
Speaker 5: I guess the Los Angeles chargers'd be number two, because
39:30
Speaker 5: you know they're pretty good.
39:31
Speaker 4: Can I give you another piece of audio, like, dude,
39:33
Speaker 4: give me give me a little a little zest. So,
39:36
Speaker 4: when COVID was going on and the NBA was the
39:40
Speaker 4: first sport to restart and they had everybody in the bubble, right,
39:44
Speaker 4: Kyle Kuzma was on a podcast and he was talking
39:47
Speaker 4: about what that experience was like for him, so go ahead, Nelly.
39:50
Speaker 8: And it was hard just just being there. You know
39:52
Speaker 8: what I'm saying, like being in a bubble, Like that's
39:54
Speaker 8: not our lifestyle, you know what I mean.
39:56
Speaker 2: Like our lifestyle.
39:57
Speaker 8: We'd like to be extremely comfortable when we're not on
40:00
Speaker 8: the court.
40:01
Speaker 2: You know, you want to be home.
40:02
Speaker 8: You want to be chilling your house, your nice sofa, watching.
40:06
Speaker 5: A movie, that's what.
40:07
Speaker 8: You don't want to be in Mickey Mouse's house in
40:11
Speaker 8: three hundred square feet for three months, Like that's that's crazy,
40:14
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. And you know, we like
40:16
Speaker 8: to call it a prison for athletes.
40:19
Speaker 2: That's what it was.
40:22
Speaker 9: Nothing.
40:23
Speaker 4: So here's the thing we talked about, diva wide receivers.
40:27
Speaker 4: I don't think there's any bigger diva than a superstar
40:29
Speaker 4: in the NBA or a good player at the So
40:32
Speaker 4: it's just funny to see the dichotomy between two things though.
40:35
Speaker 4: So that was Kyle Kuzma talking about it. This was
40:37
Speaker 4: Steven Adams while he was in the bubble, being asked
40:41
Speaker 4: what it's like to be in the bubble.
40:43
Speaker 10: How's the adjustment been to dealing with life constantly living
40:48
Speaker 10: with your your teammates and not really having an opportunity
40:51
Speaker 10: to get away and just overall your thoughts on life
40:54
Speaker 10: inside the bubble right now.
40:57
Speaker 9: That's all good, butte let's be clear, this is not
41:01
Speaker 9: SI you know what I mean. Like, it's not it's
41:04
Speaker 9: not that hard, it's not that difficult. But I mean,
41:06
Speaker 9: it's but living a bloody result.
41:11
Speaker 4: This is like result a result resort.
41:16
Speaker 5: I want to book by the Way by Steven Adams
41:21
Speaker 5: story from nar Elevator, but that's a different time. I
41:23
Speaker 5: want to know. I want the book to come out.
41:25
Speaker 5: I want somebody to write the book, and it can
41:27
Speaker 5: be all anonymous sources. That's fine. How many chicks were
41:30
Speaker 5: snuck into the bubble, oh my goodness, that I want
41:34
Speaker 5: to because or how many things went on in the
41:36
Speaker 5: bubble that weren't supposed to go on. I gotta have
41:40
Speaker 5: that done. I gotta have a.
41:41
Speaker 6: Ton an indescribable amount. Yes, that's how much. Whether they
41:46
Speaker 6: were staff at the hotel or the resort, as Steven
41:50
Speaker 6: Adams not talked about, or they were snuck in. Yes,
41:52
Speaker 6: come on, NBA players, three months you know things.
41:56
Speaker 5: What's what did Stephen A. Smith says?
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Speaker 2: Hey, listen, you asked dudes to go weeks.
42:06
Speaker 4: It's just funny. This was a prison for athletes and
42:12
Speaker 4: Steven Adams like, it's not Siria.
42:15
Speaker 6: Yeah, just a backup to the micing to back up
42:18
Speaker 6: to that real quick. Shady McCoy has a podcast and
42:23
Speaker 6: on that podcast he was trying to make the point
42:25
Speaker 6: that Antonio Brown was a better receiver than Jerry Rice.
42:29
Speaker 6: And so I had to I had to grab my
42:32
Speaker 6: phone and reply to this ridiculousness that just because you
42:36
Speaker 6: were a player doesn't mean you know other players, doesn't
42:39
Speaker 6: mean you actually know the game. So Michaeh Parson's really
42:43
Speaker 6: listening for his his insights about the AMC West and
42:48
Speaker 6: who lost what it's evidence from the clip of the podcast.
42:55
Speaker 6: He didn't put a ton of research into that.
42:57
Speaker 4: No, well, here's the other thing he did. Actually, I
42:59
Speaker 4: want wondered if he was going to do the NFC
43:01
Speaker 4: North that he plays in now being with the Packers,
43:03
Speaker 4: and he did, and he put the Packers at the
43:05
Speaker 4: top right, and then he went Bears, Lions and Vikings division.
43:10
Speaker 4: I didn't hear his like evaluation of it. But even
43:13
Speaker 4: if he didn't talk trash on any of the teams
43:15
Speaker 4: in his division, just putting it out there that you
43:17
Speaker 4: have teams that you think are the easiest ones in
43:20
Speaker 4: the division.
43:21
Speaker 5: Is weird to me.
43:22
Speaker 4: It's just bizarre.
43:22
Speaker 2: I'm with you, I'm with you.
43:24
Speaker 4: Three or three five oh four oh nine two five
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Speaker 4: Adam Schefter in twenty minutes Stagram.
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Speaker 2: Hey listen, Hey listen. You asked dudes to go weeks