Latest / When Killers Get Caught with Brittany Ransom / The Lie Is the Point: Who Gets to Be an American When State Violence Is Justified
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- 0:04Every time a black person is killed, the lie arrives faster
- 0:08than the facts. He had a gun, he was high, she
- 0:13was threatening. He went for his weapon.
- 0:16He looked dangerous. He whistled before the name is
- 0:20even cold. On the timeline, the
- 0:21justification is already trending.
- 0:24And lately, something else has been trending too.
- 0:27People saying they're killing Americans now.
- 0:30And every time I hear that, something in my chest drops
- 0:33because what I and A lot of black people and people of color
- 0:37aren't hearing is concern. We're hearing a revelation.
- 0:41It's the quiet part being said out loud, because the now
- 0:45implies that there was a time when this didn't count, and
- 0:49implies that there was a group that this violence belonged to.
- 0:53And it implies that some deaths only become unjust once they've
- 0:57reached the right people. I want to pause here and say
- 1:00this clearly. If you consider yourself an
- 1:03ally, or if you're confused by the anger and grief you're
- 1:06seeing from people of color right now, I need you to stay
- 1:09with me for this episode. Please don't scroll away.
- 1:12Please don't tune it out. This matters more than any
- 1:15solitary case. My name is Brittany Ransom and
- 1:18this is when killers get caught, and I had a true crime episode
- 1:22planned for this week. It was researched, outlined, and
- 1:25every time I sat down and recorded, I couldn't because
- 1:27something bigger is happening in this country and pretending this
- 1:31is just another isolated tragedy feels dishonest.
- 1:34For five years, you have trusted me to talk about violence,
- 1:37justice and accountability with honesty.
- 1:41So today, instead of a case, I need to talk to you about a
- 1:44pattern. I need to talk about the lie,
- 1:47and I need to explain why that phrase they're killing Americans
- 1:50now is landing like confirmation for people who have been buried
- 1:55under this violence for generations.
- 1:59This episode isn't about politics.
- 2:01It isn't about partisanship. It's about citizenship, who gets
- 2:04it, who is conditional for, and who only seems to count once
- 2:08It's already too late. If you have ever trusted my
- 2:11perspective before, I'm asking you to stop and listen now when
- 2:18people say they're killing Americans now.
- 2:19The word now is doing some heavy lifting.
- 2:23It implies that there was a before a time when this kind of
- 2:26violence was tolerated. It implies there was a group
- 2:29this violence belonged to, and implies that a line was only
- 2:33crossed when the victim fit a narrow definition of who
- 2:36qualifies as an American. For many Black people and people
- 2:41of color, that statement does not register as outrage.
- 2:44It registers as a confirmation. Confirmation that our deaths
- 2:47were never understood as civic crises, that our citizenship was
- 2:51always conditional, that we were seen not as full participants in
- 2:57the social contract. But that is exceptions to it,
- 3:01acceptable losses within IT. When you hear names like George
- 3:05Floyd, Sonia Massey, Tamir Rice, Eric Gartner, Ayanna Stanley
- 3:09Jones, Philando Castile, Brianna Taylor or Sandra Bland, it
- 3:14didn't provoke the same language, the same urgency, or
- 3:17the same insistence. That this isn't who we are
- 3:23signals something deeply unsettling.
- 3:27The same is true for cases like Quanfang and Fang Lee.
- 3:30Their deaths did not produce sustained national reckoning.
- 3:34We also spent much of 2025 watching Hispanic communities
- 3:38subjected to mass detention and dehumanization with little
- 3:42public response. Indigenous Americans continue to
- 3:45be detained and harmed with minimal attention.
- 3:48Yet the killing of a white civilian suddenly reframes this
- 3:51issue as unprecedented violence. And that disparity matters not
- 3:56because anyone death is more tragic than another, but because
- 3:59selective recognition fractures movements and it erodes trust.
- 4:04Solidarity cannot survive if people feel like their humanity
- 4:08is only acknowledged retroactively or conditionally.
- 4:12What white Americans must understand is this proximity to
- 4:16privilege is not immunity. White supremacy is always
- 4:20conditional. It protects compliance, not
- 4:24conscience. We have seen this before during
- 4:28Jim Crow. White Americans who stood
- 4:30alongside black people, who challenged segregation, who
- 4:33organized, who refused to uphold racial terror.
- 4:38They were beaten alongside of us.
- 4:40Some of them were jailed. Some were outright murdered.
- 4:43Their whiteness did not save them once they broke ranks with
- 4:46a system that demanded their silence.
- 4:49And that history matters because it makes clear that what is
- 4:52happening now is not an aberration.
- 4:55When people step outside the boundaries of what power allows,
- 4:58when they question authority, when they dispute the hierarchy,
- 5:01the system responds the way it always has, with force.
- 5:06Both good and Cratty were not targeted because whiteness
- 5:09suddenly stopped existing. They were targeted because they
- 5:12stopped performing obedience. Good was a queer, outspoken
- 5:17woman who was unwilling to submit.
- 5:20She challenged misogyny and authority simultaneously, and
- 5:23that resistance was met with violence.
- 5:26Pretty was similarly punished for defiance, ignoring federal
- 5:29agents, intervening on behalf of someone who was being harmed,
- 5:33and refusing to perform deference to their power.
- 5:37That active refusal was met with force, captured from multiple
- 5:40angles in public view. This is the lesson that history
- 5:45keeps offering us. The moment privilege is mistaken
- 5:48for protection, people are caught unprepared.
- 5:51Compliance might buy temporary safety, but has never guaranteed
- 5:55justice. That reality is not new.
- 5:57It is simply more familiar now than it has been in the past.
- 6:04Now, black Americans are often told after moments like this,
- 6:07This isn't who we are. This isn't what America stands
- 6:09for. The system failed, but a system
- 6:11cannot fail. It's something it was never
- 6:13designed to prevent. From the very beginning,
- 6:16American citizenship has been conditional granted selectively,
- 6:20enforced unevenly, and withdrawn whenever it became inconvenient.
- 6:24In 1790, the Naturalization Act restricted citizenship to free
- 6:28white persons, and in 1857, Dred Scott versus Sanford made it
- 6:32explicit. Black people, enslaved or free,
- 6:35were said to have no rights, which the white man was bound to
- 6:38respect. After slavery, Black codes and
- 6:42vagrancy laws criminalize Black existence to preserve control.
- 6:46In another form, Plessy versus Ferguson told us that
- 6:49segregation was constitutional as long as inequality was made
- 6:53orderly. Even when rights were finally
- 6:56acknowledged on paper, they were never enforced equally in
- 6:59practice. So citizenship became
- 7:01conditional on race, on behavior, on how non threatening
- 7:04you appear in someone else's imagination.
- 7:07But the same logic didn't stop with just black Americans.
- 7:10Chinese immigrants were excluded by law in 1882.
- 7:13Japanese Americans, most of them citizens, were imprisoned during
- 7:17World War 2 under Korematsu versus the United States, not
- 7:21because they had done anything wrong, but for who they might
- 7:24be. Mexican Americans were deported
- 7:27in Mass during the 30s and then again during Operation Wetback,
- 7:32which is I can't believe that's legally what they called that,
- 7:37but it was often done without regard for their citizenship.
- 7:40Puerto Ricans were surveilled, sterilized, and met with state
- 7:43violence despite being legal American citizens.
- 7:48Each time the justification was the same national security,
- 7:51public safety order, and each time due process was treated as
- 7:55optional. So when it's good or pratty is
- 7:58killed and people suddenly say this is unjust, what many of us
- 8:01are hearing is not awakening. It's timing.
- 8:04It sounds like, Oh, so it counts now.
- 8:09And that doesn't feel like solidarity.
- 8:11It feels like being told, again, that our deaths have always been
- 8:14background noise, that violence only becomes a national crisis
- 8:18once it reaches people who were assumed to be safe from it.
- 8:22This isn't about denying anyone's humanity.
- 8:24It's about recognizing how long ours has been debated.
- 8:30See, the lie is never about the truth.
- 8:32It's about permissions. It doesn't matter if the gun was
- 8:37fake, as it was with Tamir Rice, because American law has long
- 8:41allowed lethal force based on perceived threat rather than
- 8:43actual danger. It doesn't matter if the drugs
- 8:46were irrelevant to the case, as they were with George Floyd,
- 8:48because criminalization has always been used to posthumously
- 8:51justify violence, from slave patrol reports to modern police
- 8:55press releases. It doesn't matter if the water
- 8:57on the stove was boiling, like in Sonia Massey's case, because
- 9:01ordinary actions have historically been reframed as
- 9:03threatening when performed by Black bodies.
- 9:06It doesn't matter if the threat was entirely imaginary, as it
- 9:09was with Elijah McClain, because fear itself has always been
- 9:13treated as sufficient evidence. And it does not matter if the
- 9:17accusation was a myth like it was with Emmett Till, because
- 9:21American history shows us that the claim has never needed to be
- 9:23true, only believable to a certain audience.
- 9:27It's not new, guys. During slavery, enforcers
- 9:31documented punishments as discipline to justify torture.
- 9:35During Reconstruction, Black Codes criminalized unemployment
- 9:39and loitering to justify arresting people and forcing
- 9:42them into labor. During the Jim Crow era,
- 9:45lynchings were routinely defended as responses to alleged
- 9:48threats that were later proven false, if they were investigated
- 9:52at all. In the early 20th century,
- 9:55police reports and newspapers regularly framed Black victims
- 9:59as aggressors to rationalize mob of violence and state inaction.
- 10:04The lie has always functioned the same way.
- 10:07Not to investigate what happened, but to explain why it
- 10:10just didn't matter. And that logic was later
- 10:14codified into law in Graham versus Connor.
- 10:17In 1989, the Supreme Court ruled that police use of force must be
- 10:21judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer in the
- 10:24moment, not by its actual outcome, not by the harm it
- 10:28caused, and not by facts that we learned afterward.
- 10:32That standard prioritizes perception over reality.
- 10:38In Tennessee versus Garner 1985, lethal force was limited in
- 10:43theory, but still allowed wherever an officer claims to
- 10:46perceive a significant threat. In other words, the system
- 10:49doesn't require the lie to even be true, and only requires it to
- 10:52be legible. America just keeps recycling the
- 10:56same justification because it works.
- 10:59It dulls the public outrage by shifting focus away from the
- 11:02violence itself. It stalls accountability by
- 11:04turning every death into a debate and the victims
- 11:06worthiness. And it transforms the public
- 11:09into a jury and asks us to evaluate character rather than
- 11:13conduct. While the state's power is
- 11:16presumed legitimate by default, this isn't an institutional
- 11:20breakdown. This is institutional
- 11:22continuity. The lie is not a bug in the
- 11:24system, it's a feature. James Baldwin said it plainly in
- 11:301964, and nothing personal. The violence was being
- 11:34perpetuated mainly against black men and so it didn't count.
- 11:37But if a society permits 1 portion of its citizenry to be
- 11:40menaced or destroyed, then very soon no one in that society is
- 11:43safe. Baldwin was not speculating, he
- 11:46was documenting a pattern that was already decades old.
- 11:49He went on to warn the forces thus released in the people can
- 11:53never be held in check, but run their devouring course,
- 11:57destroying the very foundations which it was imagined they would
- 12:00save. And finally, he named the cost.
- 12:04What we are struggling against is that death in the heart,
- 12:07which leads to not only the shedding of blood, but which
- 12:10reduces human beings to corpses while they live.
- 12:14I'll say it again, it didn't count.
- 12:17That's the context that a lot of people are missing right now.
- 12:20Because when violence is permitted against one group long
- 12:23enough, a country doesn't become safer.
- 12:25It becomes practiced at explaining itself and learns the
- 12:30language of evasion. It develops A moral callous.
- 12:34This is why black Americans are so angry.
- 12:36Not confused, not shocked, but furious because the nation did
- 12:41not fail to understand what was happening.
- 12:43It learned how to survive it. How to anesthetize itself with
- 12:47character assassination, how to call murder contacts and
- 12:50brutality complexity. How to replace accountability
- 12:54with endless debates over tone, compliance and perceived threat.
- 12:58And every time we accept this setup.
- 13:00Was he really reaching? Was she really threatening?
- 13:03We are participating in the lie because those questions are
- 13:06never asked in good faith. It's not designed to uncover the
- 13:10truth. It's designed to decide whose
- 13:12life is worth defending after the fact.
- 13:16Baldwin warned us that once a society normalizes this kind of
- 13:19moral triage, the violence cannot remain contained.
- 13:23And the same logic that once rendered black suffering
- 13:26invisible will expand outward because the system is already
- 13:30learned that it can. This is in hindsight.
- 13:33It's history speaking in real time.
- 13:36And here's the uncomfortable truth.
- 13:39What's happening now doesn't feel new to us.
- 13:42What feels new is who people are finally willing to recognize as
- 13:46victims. The machinery didn't suddenly
- 13:49appear. It didn't suddenly become
- 13:51violent. It didn't suddenly abandoned
- 13:54restraint or due process. This system was built with those
- 13:57exceptions already baked in. What changed is not the behavior
- 14:01of the state. It's the identity of the people
- 14:03now caught in the gears. The violence didn't escalate.
- 14:06It simply expanded into spaces where it was never supposed to
- 14:10go. For generations, there have been
- 14:13an unspoken understanding about who this system exists to
- 14:16protect, who it is allowed to discipline, contain or discard.
- 14:20Some people were always treated as citizens, and others were
- 14:24treated as problems to be managed.
- 14:27So when someone says they're killing Americans now, it
- 14:30doesn't sound like an awakening. It sounds like a line being
- 14:33crossed not because the violence became unjust, but because it
- 14:37became inconvenient. It feels like a belated
- 14:40recognition, like discovering a fire only once it reaches the
- 14:43room that you assumed was fireproof.
- 14:46And for those of us who have lived with the smoke for
- 14:48generations, that distinction matters.
- 14:53Remember, James Baldwin warned that a society that allows some
- 14:57people to be destroyed cannot contain the forces it unleashes.
- 15:01Violence cannot and does not stay neatly assigned to its
- 15:06original targets. And the United States Indigenous
- 15:10nations were the first testing ground.
- 15:13The government declared Native people were savages, denied
- 15:16their sovereignty and used military force, forced removal,
- 15:21starvation and mass killing as policy.
- 15:24The Trail of Tears was a legally sanctioned ethnic cleansing.
- 15:28Wounded Knee was a massacre. Residential schools abducted
- 15:33children to erase language, culture and identity.
- 15:36Reservations were enforced through continued military
- 15:39violence. The lesson was clear.
- 15:42Some lives could be erased for the so-called greater good.
- 15:46That logic was refined and expanded through slavery.
- 15:49Enslaved Africans were considered property.
- 15:51Violence was legalized, regulated, and it became
- 15:54economic. Punishment was public and
- 15:56instructional design, not just to control people, but to
- 15:59terrorize entire communities into submission.
- 16:03Slave patrols are the direct ancestors of modern policing and
- 16:07they were created to capture escaped and free Black people,
- 16:10enforce racial hierarchy, and maintain order through fear.
- 16:14When slavery ended, the violence didn't.
- 16:17It was just rebranded black codes, convict leasing, Jim
- 16:20Crow, lynching. Through social control, the lie
- 16:23became necessary. Black people said to themselves,
- 16:26if we're free, then this violence must be justified.
- 16:30That guy must have done something to deserve it, and the
- 16:33same machinery just kept chugging forward.
- 16:36Native Hawaiians saw their sovereign government overthrown
- 16:38in 1893, their land seized and U.S.
- 16:41Marines occupying their homeland, reframing it as
- 16:44annexation. Chinese immigrants built the
- 16:47railroads that connected our nation, thousands dying in the
- 16:50process, only to be repaid with the Chinese Exclusion Act, the
- 16:53first law to ban immigration based on race.
- 16:57During World War 2 / 120,000 Japanese Americans were
- 17:00imprisoned in internment camps. No charges, no evidence, no due
- 17:04process, just collective suspicion they might be
- 17:08dangerous. After Jim Crow ended, the
- 17:11violence pivoted again. Mexican Americans were lynched.
- 17:14In 1954, Operation Wetback deported over 1,000,000 people,
- 17:19many of whom were U.S. citizens, branding the Latino identity
- 17:24itself as illegal after 911 Muslim people, Arab people, and
- 17:30South Asian communities were subjected to surveillance
- 17:32without warrants, detention without charges, deportation
- 17:35without evidence, entire communities positioned as
- 17:40threats. And here's the part that people
- 17:42miss. For many groups, this violence
- 17:44comes in waves during war, panic, or crisis.
- 17:47But for Black Americans, it's never really ended.
- 17:51Policing, incarceration, surveillance and lethal force
- 17:54have become permanent domestic applications of the same logic
- 18:00first used against Native Americans and enslaved Africans.
- 18:04That's why when people say they're killing Americans now,
- 18:07what Black people here is You weren't the Americans we met.
- 18:11Because the formula has always been consistent.
- 18:15Dehumanize the group, label them dangerous, suspend their rights.
- 18:20Call it necessary, forget it later.
- 18:24The targets change, the script doesn't.
- 18:26And James Baldwin warned us, if a society permits 1 portion of
- 18:30its citizenry to be menaced or destroyed, then very soon no one
- 18:35in that society is safe. What we are witnessing right now
- 18:38is not a breakdown or a deviation.
- 18:41It is the bill coming due, the logical outcome of a system that
- 18:45has been excusing itself for over 400 years.
- 18:49A system that has rotted institutions, brutalized
- 18:52language, and hollowed out the public consciousness.
- 18:58What we are witnessing is not a string of isolated tragedies.
- 19:02It's a governing philosophy being exercised in real time.
- 19:06The lie no longer whispers. It legislates.
- 19:09It campaigns. It trends state violence is no
- 19:13longer treated as a regrettable failure, but as a necessary
- 19:16tool. Due process has been reframed as
- 19:19an inconvenience. Empathy is now weakness.
- 19:22Dissent is a threat. We are living in a political
- 19:26climate where power is openly testing how much force it can
- 19:30use, how many rights it can spend, how many people it can
- 19:35discard before the word American loses all meaning.
- 19:40And what makes this moment dangerous is not just who is
- 19:43being harmed, it's just how many people are being asked to accept
- 19:48it as normal, to see brutality as order, to see fear as
- 19:53governance, to see disappearance as policy.
- 19:57We were warned that once a society decides some lives must
- 20:03justify the existence of others, it has already surrendered its
- 20:07moral center. The bloodshed is only the
- 20:12visible damage. The deeper devastation is what
- 20:15happens when the public conscience goes quiet.
- 20:20It is not a question of unity, it is a question of honesty.
- 20:23Because a nation that only recognizes injustice once it
- 20:27reaches certain people was never built on equal protection to
- 20:30begin with. And a country that teaches its
- 20:32citizens to look away or explain away will eventually find there
- 20:37is nowhere left to stand that isn't soaked in the same logic.
- 20:42My name is Brady Ransom, and this has been an alternate
- 20:45episode of When Killers Get Caught.
- 20:47No one should have to die to be recognized as human, and if that
- 20:52idea feels radical in this country right now, that should
- 20:56terrify us all.