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Hot Topics Tuesday: RHOP Reunion Pt 1, Kandi & Todd, Quad, & Belle Collective · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 2: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 2: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 2: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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  Speaker 2: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 2: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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  Speaker 2: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 2: scripted as well.
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  Speaker 1: So listen. So guys, we're gonna recap Potomac.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about Candy and Todds divorced update. We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna talk about Quad having a twoful conversation about regretting
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  Speaker 2: not freecing her eggs. But first thing first, we have
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  Speaker 2: to get into Bell Collective is back every Friday and
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  Speaker 2: the Clock Selling Central on the Oprah Winfrey net work.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, Bill Collective is back. First thing first, we
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  Speaker 2: have to get into Latsha and Glenn. So to update
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  Speaker 2: everybody what happened last season. Latsia found out that Glenn
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  Speaker 2: was in another woman's DMS.
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  Speaker 1: He said it was friendly.
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  Speaker 2: They decided to, you know, deal with it, be a
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  Speaker 2: united front. This season openers showed that Latishia felt that
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  Speaker 2: you know what we saw last year after reunion last
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  Speaker 2: season after reunion was they were together and she is
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  Speaker 2: now questioning whether or not she should stay in this marriage.
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  Speaker 1: Dustin, what were.
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  Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the latest between Latitia and Glenn.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that what they were arguing about in the
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  Speaker 3: therapy session cannot possibly be what they really beefed out about.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I thought, because we met Leticia Pearson on
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  Speaker 3: this show right hosting her Women's Brunch in Mississippi. I
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  Speaker 3: believe it was called Women's Brunch Mississippi. She has presented
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  Speaker 3: herself to the audience of that show as deeply having
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  Speaker 3: an entrepreneurial spirit and at that being something that's important
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  Speaker 3: to her and she's passionate about. They had conversation after
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  Speaker 3: conversation in the offices of Latisia Pearson Enterprises, where she
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  Speaker 3: has filmed multiple times. So the idea of Latisia Pearson
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  Speaker 3: being a working woman and prioritizing her career is not
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  Speaker 3: foreign to the audience of that show, and we ain't
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  Speaker 3: married to her, so it definitely shouldn't be foreign to
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  Speaker 3: Glenn Glendale. When you fuck up, they call him Glendale.
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  Speaker 3: So we don't call them Glendale for the second this conversation.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, man, I'm like, it's got to be something deeper.
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  Speaker 3: It's got to be more than this, because that, to
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  Speaker 3: me was a weak swipe all her she trying to
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  Speaker 3: be independent, or she gonna focus on herself and not
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  Speaker 3: me and build herself up to get out of here.
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  Speaker 3: I just didn't think it was a strong argument or
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  Speaker 3: such an axe and or you know, for them to
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  Speaker 3: grind such a fork in the role for them, I
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  Speaker 3: just didn't see it being a strong issue.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know what they lying, that's all.
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  Speaker 3: And I love them, you know how much I love
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  Speaker 3: the Bells in general, the whole cast, and I specifically
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  Speaker 3: love Lets and Glenn being together.
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  Speaker 4: I think they love the hell out of their son.
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  Speaker 3: You see, they got on down from that awful therapy session,
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  Speaker 3: which don't even get me started on that, but they
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  Speaker 3: got on down from there because they had to what
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  Speaker 3: go get Josh their parents first, And I love seeing
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  Speaker 3: that they son is always well adjusted and happy, and
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  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So I want their family
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  Speaker 3: unit to work. But them niggas was lying on that couch.
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  Speaker 3: It's more, there's more to the situation in that.
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  Speaker 4: That's all Claudia.
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  Speaker 5: I saw it as a real thing because I know
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  Speaker 5: a lot of girls that are going through this and
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  Speaker 5: I've been through before. When a man like that's the
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  Speaker 5: last kind of like grasp back controlling the woman.
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  Speaker 6: And if you know you're out there being.
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  Speaker 5: Foul, right and uh like you being foul and your
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  Speaker 5: woman has some actual things that can she can call
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  Speaker 5: you out on, you got to reach for something else,
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  Speaker 5: like well, you know you work too much. Any man,
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  Speaker 5: like you said, Carlos, like you said, dustin't he got
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  Speaker 5: with an entrepreneur. He got with someone that was successful.
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  Speaker 5: Don't get with someone and try to humble them. When
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  Speaker 5: you're in the doghouse. You can like even the late
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  Speaker 5: the playing field and you know, get your little aha moment.
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  Speaker 4: No, I just said that. I just fucking said that.
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  Speaker 3: That Glenn said that she thought she was setting herself
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  Speaker 3: up to leave him. I literally just said that, So
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  Speaker 3: what you mean, No, yes.
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  Speaker 6: Let Dustin cook, but comes go ahead?
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  Speaker 4: Doesn't like what you're listening to anyway?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Like no, it's okay.
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  Speaker 5: Losing control and this is a trigger definitely for me,
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  Speaker 5: Like I'm like, oh, I can I when I saw that.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, oh, that to me is I can't
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  Speaker 5: get you with my actions because I'm fucking up lately, right,
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  Speaker 5: So let me make something else. Let me make it
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  Speaker 5: about like, now I have an issue with your career.
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  Speaker 6: You're not home enough.
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  Speaker 5: No, you don't like her being financially independent, which you
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  Speaker 5: can bounce on you. A lot of them, not a lot,
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  Speaker 5: but there are some men that like their women home barefoot, pregnant,
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  Speaker 5: or broke. There's plenty of men that say they date
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  Speaker 5: in the poverty level because like, these are women that
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  Speaker 5: need them and they can't walk away. Look at the
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  Speaker 5: administration what they're trying to do right now. They're trying
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  Speaker 5: to remove a lot of.
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  Speaker 6: Professional positions that women lead in.
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  Speaker 5: So it's like, you know, they trying to like just
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  Speaker 5: get us back out of the workforce and home.
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  Speaker 6: Why is that? Low value? Men? Low self esteem?
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  Speaker 5: Men, Men that like they can't get you another way,
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  Speaker 5: so they want to just like bring your ass down.
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  Speaker 5: That he wants to humble her, that's humbling because he
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  Speaker 5: was in the doghouse last season. That's the humbling thing.
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  Speaker 5: And I think she needs to run. I think that's
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  Speaker 5: a major red. Like your partners should want you to
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  Speaker 5: flourish and make a whole bunch of money, not be
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  Speaker 5: scared that if you make a lot be about to
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  Speaker 5: bounce on me.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't like it at all.
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  Speaker 4: Blue.
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  Speaker 7: There used to be this test that they would do
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  Speaker 7: with couples that were having problems, where they would say,
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  Speaker 7: if you won the lottery right now and one ten
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  Speaker 7: million dollars, would you still be with this person? I
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  Speaker 7: think letting those the answer.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: There are men who want to diminish you because they
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  Speaker 7: like you, because you're powerful, But they also like thinking
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  Speaker 7: that they can be the one person to tame you.
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  Speaker 7: And then five ten years go by and you used
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  Speaker 7: to haven't been tamed, and now they're angry at you
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  Speaker 7: for being the very person that they chased. And I
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  Speaker 7: think there's some hubrists involved, there's some egos, there's some
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  Speaker 7: weaponized incompetence. I do not like an overtly friendly grown
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  Speaker 7: ass man because while you smounted by his face, of
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  Speaker 7: god dam much, why can't they all see the back
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  Speaker 7: of your teeth. I don't like that. I like a
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  Speaker 7: man who's a little bit unfriendly, right, like he's kind
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  Speaker 7: of me my mama in our ecosystem. But strangers, second
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  Speaker 7: guests walking up to him. So even the DM thing,
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  Speaker 7: you just needed to look back because you wanted to
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  Speaker 7: feel special and you wanted to have somebody who's a
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  Speaker 7: nobody on social media who knows who you are to
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  Speaker 7: stroke you in the way that your wife tries to
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  Speaker 7: but can't because you know that you're not better than her.
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  Speaker 7: Which brings me to the point of people who compete
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  Speaker 7: with their partners make me nervous because it takes a
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  Speaker 7: very small man to compete with his woman.
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  Speaker 6: Oh my god, it's so wag.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Like he came off so small to me, and
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  Speaker 7: that's what been one of those little miniatures where his
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  Speaker 7: voice gets all squeaky like it was given out in
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  Speaker 7: the Chipmunks. It was very small man behavior. I'm very
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  Speaker 7: disappointed because you can tell that she's the kind of
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  Speaker 7: person who is not just community oriented, but she's very
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  Speaker 7: family oriented, you know what I mean. And to invest
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  Speaker 7: this much time in someone, in building an ecosystem with them,
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  Speaker 7: to find out that you've evolved and there's still where
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  Speaker 7: you found them. That's that's devastating.
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  Speaker 1: Ladies.
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  Speaker 5: You cannot be with the man that gets mad if
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  Speaker 5: you have a bigger chain than his it's okay, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I mean like a.
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  Speaker 1: Bigger chain.
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  Speaker 7: Something else.
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  Speaker 1: Be happy.
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  Speaker 7: He shows chain as the analogy. She could have said.
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  Speaker 5: Something mad about it, or you want to get away
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  Speaker 5: with that chain upstage me, shut up, step of diamonds, that.
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  Speaker 7: Step your diamonds of Claudia. Who did you spend the
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  Speaker 7: weekend with Claudia?
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  Speaker 6: This is like I got triggered for some other ship
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  Speaker 6: this weekend. Two.
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  Speaker 2: The one thing I didn't want to ask all this
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  Speaker 2: because there are people in the comments saying that Glenn
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  Speaker 2: is about to be what Todd Tucker is right in
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  Speaker 2: terms of how people are viewing Todd right.
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  Speaker 1: In the in the in the social media realm unemployed.
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  Speaker 7: You said what I thought, the people look at him
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  Speaker 7: like he's an unemployed hater right now, living people.
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  Speaker 2: The things that people are saying is they they're they're wondering,
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  Speaker 2: is it difficult for a man?
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  Speaker 1: Right? So in this case you have Glenn. When Glenn.
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  Speaker 1: The difference between Tod and Glenn is this. When Glenn
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  Speaker 1: met Leticia, their high school sweet she was.
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  Speaker 2: A real housewife. She did not work, and she did
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  Speaker 2: bail bondsman, but she obviously was a stay at home
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  Speaker 2: mom and Glenn worked and Glenn provided everything right.
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  Speaker 1: And what you'll see this season is there's.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of revelations that comes out this season on
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  Speaker 2: Felt Collective every Friday at a clock com own, where
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  Speaker 2: Leatitia is discovering a lot of.
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  Speaker 1: Plans that Glenn made that she didn't know about. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Oh So on the flip side, you have Candy and Todd,
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  Speaker 2: and that situation is different where Todd entered the relationship
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  Speaker 2: and marriage where Candy obviously was the breadwinner. But when
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  Speaker 2: people are comparing Glenn and Todd, what they're saying is,
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  Speaker 2: are these men who don't want to see their women
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  Speaker 2: excel further because they are afraid of losing mout?
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  Speaker 1: Is that something you think to dustin.
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  Speaker 4: Glenn?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I think in Glenn's case, for sure, Candy and
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  Speaker 3: Todd that's a little bit of a different case study
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  Speaker 3: because Candy was rich when they got married, and so
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  Speaker 3: it's just like as you illustrated with the origin story
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  Speaker 3: to Glenn and Leticia's relationship, it's.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit different.
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  Speaker 3: So it's a little misalignant, it's misaligned comparatively to me.
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  Speaker 3: But in Glenn and Latitia's case, he literally said in
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  Speaker 3: his confessional scene that he feared that she was going
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  Speaker 3: to set herself up financially to take off from him
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  Speaker 3: and leave him, and he expressed that he didn't want
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  Speaker 3: that to happen. He said that that's just how he
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  Speaker 3: wasn't saying it was true, but that's just how he felt, which.
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  Speaker 4: I thought was honest.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought that Glenn also expressed that he wanted
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  Speaker 3: his marriage to remain intact, and he was vocal about that,
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  Speaker 3: which he's been all even with the hiccups and the
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  Speaker 3: mistakes that he's made, He's always said he wants them
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  Speaker 3: to work out in the end.
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  Speaker 4: So it's a little bit different to me.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really think Glenn and Laticia's marriage is a
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  Speaker 3: lost cause yet, and I don't think that he is
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  Speaker 3: even positioning himself to have an exit plan per se.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's just insecure about his woman at which
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  Speaker 3: to me is a ridiculous take to have been that
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  Speaker 3: this is what season of Bell Collective six, Carlos seven.
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  Speaker 4: So they've been on TV for years.
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  Speaker 3: Latitia has been front facing to the public and career
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  Speaker 3: focused for years, so that's why I felt like it
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  Speaker 3: was a reach when they presented that as the problem
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  Speaker 3: that they're having in their marriage, right, I thought it
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  Speaker 3: was a reach. I don't think he sent himself up
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  Speaker 3: to mooch off of her and take her money in
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  Speaker 3: the end before.
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  Speaker 4: They break up. So I don't I personally don't feel
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  Speaker 4: like that.
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  Speaker 1: Claudia, what was the question?
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  Speaker 2: There's a comparison between Glenn and Todd as we get
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  Speaker 2: to Todd next and even look what we also learned
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  Speaker 2: in the He's the Premier of Bell Collective. Is Marie
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  Speaker 2: and Cedric broke up? You know that was a relationship
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  Speaker 2: that you know, they were married, divorced, got back together,
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  Speaker 2: and last season we thought they were going to you
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  Speaker 2: don't make it. She found out that he was still
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  Speaker 2: seeing women allegedly because he's not here to defer himself,
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  Speaker 2: meaning on the show.
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  Speaker 1: That he allegedly was seeing other women.
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  Speaker 2: And Marie is a powerhouse, she's a self made millionaire.
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  Speaker 2: Is there something as we're seeing this pattern that the
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  Speaker 2: audience is seen when it comes to men not necessarily
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  Speaker 2: being fakeful or being able to work with a woman
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  Speaker 2: where they are in the spotlight and presumably making more
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  Speaker 2: money than them.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I will say this, They are totally to totally
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  Speaker 5: different situations but one thing, there is a through line,
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  Speaker 5: And I will say in relationships where the woman has
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  Speaker 5: a lot of light on her, a lot of attention.
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  Speaker 5: Now to say that Glenn doesn't get attention, not to
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  Speaker 5: say that Talk doesn't get any attention, but there is
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  Speaker 5: no denying that the women are.
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  Speaker 6: The bigger names in these situations.
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  Speaker 5: And I do think when a man feels that way,
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  Speaker 5: that's not really a natural position for a man of
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  Speaker 5: feel if they feel like they're supposed to be leading,
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  Speaker 5: if they go by.
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  Speaker 6: The old school way of like relationships.
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  Speaker 5: So I do think when you have that situation, a
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  Speaker 5: lot of times a man will try to get his
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  Speaker 5: kudos and try to get like he's he's trying to
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  Speaker 5: get more attention in another area, hence cheating allegations with
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  Speaker 5: Todd and hence allegations of sliding and DM from Glenn.
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  Speaker 6: Like that's I've seen that happen a million times.
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  Speaker 5: Like, Okay, I'm not feeling one hundred percent like the
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  Speaker 5: man in my relationship because I feel emasculated, even if
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  Speaker 5: she's not doing it to you. Sometimes a man would
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  Speaker 5: just feel like, damn, I should be doing better than
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  Speaker 5: my woman, so they go get the Like someone said,
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  Speaker 5: the waffle house waitress, you know, I mean they have
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  Speaker 5: a woman that's guys that checks all the boxes, got
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  Speaker 5: all the money, not the same money.
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  Speaker 6: He's the only that makes you great. But like they'll.
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  Speaker 5: Go get attention elsewhere because they got to feel like
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  Speaker 5: the man from something so fans Instagram just you know,
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  Speaker 5: toeing the line, maybe not cheating, but like really getting
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  Speaker 5: inappropriate attention.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, I do see a similarity in that.
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  Speaker 5: I think that happens to a lot of men that
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  Speaker 5: feel a little small around their women. So it does
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  Speaker 5: take a lot to be with the woman that's a
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  Speaker 5: you know, a character, you know, main character energy, that's
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  Speaker 5: it's not easy, but you know you like once again, that's.
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  Speaker 6: The same thing like Blue said, that's what attracted you.
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  Speaker 5: Like my problem is like, don't go chasing a mermaid
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  Speaker 5: and try to go fishing off the ocean if you
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  Speaker 5: ain't gonna water that bitch every day. You know what
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like you go find someone that has all
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  Speaker 5: these things and those be the same things that you resent.
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  Speaker 6: About them later and it happens.
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  Speaker 5: And when you do that, it's obnoxious because don't try
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  Speaker 5: to change me once you get me loving you so
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  Speaker 5: fair I think so blue?
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  Speaker 1: What should what do you think?
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  Speaker 2: Is there something that women should be doing more or
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  Speaker 2: less to prevent themselves from being in these situations? Because
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  Speaker 2: when you look at the parallels between these these three women,
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  Speaker 2: three different walks of life, three different setups, but ultimately
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  Speaker 2: they are going through a situation of infidelity.
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  Speaker 1: They're going through a situation.
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  Speaker 2: Of feeling like they you know, the men, feeling like
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  Speaker 2: they're not being respected because their woman is out there
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  Speaker 2: more in the spotlight.
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  Speaker 1: Is there something women should be doing more or less of?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, make sure that you're dealing with someone who doesn't
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  Speaker 7: even consider diminishing you, even in jest. Because earlier, when
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  Speaker 7: you talked about the differences of the origin stories, I
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  Speaker 7: don't think they're actually that different, because that light in
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  Speaker 7: someone is ever present, regardless of their station in life.
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  Speaker 7: Like nobody was surprised when Dustin said he was doing
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  Speaker 7: stand up comedy because we already saw it in him,
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  Speaker 7: and so when he directed it and harnessed it intentionally,
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  Speaker 7: it made sense to us. Right for Lutitia and even Candy,
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  Speaker 7: their light is ever present, whether it was escape or
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  Speaker 7: a stay at home mom. People who have that light,
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  Speaker 7: it's ever present and so when they finally figured out
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  Speaker 7: how to harness it, everybody's like, oh, that makes sense
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  Speaker 7: that you were going to be an entrepreneur. You are
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  Speaker 7: always doing the fish plates down at the you know
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  Speaker 7: what I mean, Like people always see that happening. So
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  Speaker 7: that sparking you that men are attracted to. How do
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  Speaker 7: they feed this spark or do they diminish it? If
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  Speaker 7: you are someone we joke about this all the time
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  Speaker 7: who says things like big money, even in jest, that
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  Speaker 7: is an attempt to diminish, even in jest. And so
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  Speaker 7: there are certain men who will very early try to
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  Speaker 7: diminish you or direct all your power towards them. If
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  Speaker 7: you want to make sure that you're going to be
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  Speaker 7: safe brown men, I've learned this the hard way. Find
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  Speaker 7: a man who already has a purpose. A purpose driven
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  Speaker 7: man doesn't have time for this foolishness. He has his
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  Speaker 7: own purpose that he's feeding into. You have your purpose
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  Speaker 7: that you're feeding into. And so it almost feels like
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: two goliaths coming together. But if you have a partner
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: who sees how magical and powerful you are. But they
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: only like it when it's directed at them. But they
• 16:52
  Speaker 7: don't like it when you're feeding a bigger purpose. That
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: is the immediate red flag, because now you don't even
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: see the vision that I'm trying to build with you.
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: Right also to and I wasn't joking earlier. Men who
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: need external validation all the time are always going to
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: be the weakest link because the world is full of
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: fact similes of validation for men like that. Weak men
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: will always find somebody to stroke their ego. You need
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: somebody who knows how to like themselves, even if there's
• 17:16
  Speaker 7: no applause, because when we're on the show together and
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: they're applauding me more than you, I need you to
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: find another way to get fed, because that's not all
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: that you have. So find you a purpose of a
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: man who doesn't compete with you. And suddenly all these
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: things sound stupid and unnatural.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: And this is where I this is what I take
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: fucking umbridge with. Right, don't say that you're a traditional
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: man and you have conservative traditional views and all that,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: and they have a fraudulent enough ego to not be
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: able to sustain a relationship with a partner that's more
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: successful than you because.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: They're bitch assness right there. That's new school shit.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: So you can't subscribe to that right and think that
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: you can actually feel a way about her being independent
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: and being a bigger than like a bitch. And that
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: school of thought is new and it doesn't align with
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: conservative traditional views. So pick a side. Nigga is it utual?
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Is it one? Mic?
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I have very short to absolutely no patience really for
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: men who are like that. I'll just put it like that.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's cool. If you want to be
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: on some piece shit, if you want to be a player,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: if you want to run your home, you need to
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: have your ego and intact. You need to be secure,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: and you need to be proud of the fact that
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: you have a woman who's successful and can accomplish all
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: these great things and take your family further than your
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: ass would have been able to take it. You should
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: applaud and celebrate that. But you can't have it both ways.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: If you're going to be strong and tough and the
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: traditional man be that, don't be kying and bitching later
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: because she's the shit. That's the most appropriate way I
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: could articulate my thoughts.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: People want the good parts of the thing that they
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: claim that they want, like and I'll get smoked women
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: and men on this one. I am a traditional man
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: nowadays doesn't mean with a man back in the day.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: Now it's I want a traditional relationship, meaning you cook
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: and clean and do other things me at home. But
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: a lot of times they don't want to do the
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: traditional thing that they did back in the day was
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: provide for the entire household.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: Mom, you do the house, so yeah, can you can you?
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: Can you cook up my stereo? Can you can you
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: pay the wall because you're retired? Can you can you
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: do the mainly things that you want?
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: You say you want a traditional relationship, but you don't
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: want to do You're getting your nails bupped along with me,
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, what I'm doing, you getting
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: your eyebrows squeaked and all this kind of stuff.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: Then you want me to do all the traditional things
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: make you feel like you know, and women.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: You can't sit there and say you're traditional women. You
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: want a man to provide and payl of bills and
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: then you can't cook their meal.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: So you know, you know why that's not working on
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: for people, Claudia, because it's played the funk out.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: Let's just have the conversation all that antiquated ads.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: I'm a tradition of this. I'm a tradition of that.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: We don't live in a traditional world. So while you
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: you may be able to hold fast some principles and
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: some values that are fundamental for you as a whatever
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: the fuck you are, however you identify in this world,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: that's cool. But saying that women are supposed to be
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: submissive and subservient. Men are just naturally supposed to lead
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: and provide, and and it's just supposed to be like that,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: no matter what kind of effort you're putting forth, no
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: matter what how you're contributing both ways, right, women or men,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: it simply is an outdated model. You can have reverence
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: and respect for your partner, but all of that beating
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: anybody into submission. And I'm not speaking physically, of course,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: but I mean browbeating someone and forcing submission on someone
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: and forcing that relationship model is simply not functional in
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: today's world.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: We're not churning butter. We're not. You know, we're not
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: in no disrespect to the communities of people that do.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: But I'm just saying things.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Have progressed, and our views and our way and our
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: our approach, our methods need to progress as well. We
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: keep seeing this effort to well, I'm not gonna take
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: this conversation there.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: I'll just put it right there.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: I just man need to go to war and now
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: that make TikTok videos doing stuff like.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: This or do all that.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Do all that, though right, get your facial, get your
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: nails buff, dance on TikTok, go to work, go to work,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: pay the bill, take care of your responsibilities, and show
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: up in the ways that are critically important to sustain
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: a household.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: I don't care about your habits.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: I don't care about you doing that stuff that people
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: can put in the feminine power and none of that shit.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: How are you showing up fundamentally? Okay?
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: How are you responsible? Are you taking care of the responsibilities.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: That's the shit that we need to focus on as
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: opposed to the other lenses that we're looking at things through.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: That's all.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos Kings.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Get back into the show.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I love I love this conversation. One thing I will say,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I'll use an example. I did an interview with Mona
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Scott Young last year, and I spoke to Mona about
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: her marriage she's married to this wonderful man named Sean Young.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: And I asked her a question about like, well, you know,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: how does it feel to be the bread winner in
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: your relationship?
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: And she said, what do you mean by that?
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: And I said, well, you know you're the breadwinner and
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: she said, let me correct you, I'm not.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Everything we do we do together, Mona.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Me entertainment is just it's his company, just as it's mine.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: And she said, we don't go off of this tradition.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: She said, My husband and I had a conversation about
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: what's going to work for our marriage, and my husband
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: was the one who said, you go out there, you
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: do all that. I'm gonna help you, support you, and
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I'm also going to help take care of these kids
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: because you're managing Missy, you're.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Doing the show blah boom.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: And one thing she said to me, she hates when
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: people call her Mona Scott. She said, my name is
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Mona Scott.
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: Young.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Respect my husband and she talks about how and if
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: you met Mona's husband.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Mona husband is like six foot six, he's extremely handsome.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: He's a big dude.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: And she marveled at the fact that in this relationship
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: where someone like me on the outside looking in can
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: just assume like, oh, well, you know you're the bread winner.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: How does he feel.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: She did a fantastic job at not only checking me
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: like she does, she did a fantastic job at explaining
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: to me that this marriage works because I don't enter
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: our relationship like I'm here and he's there.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: She said, everything we do, he's just as equal a
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: part of it as I am.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: And she said, I reject the notion that because I'm
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: the front facing individual in this relationship that my husband
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: is taking a back seat.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: He's not. He's right there with me, if you guys
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: see him or not.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: And I bring that up to say, I thought it
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: was so beautiful Formona to say that, because, like Claudia said,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: it's easy to always say men, men, men, men, men, right,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: and yet obviously a lot of it is about that.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: But I do want to encourage women that if you
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: are in a situation that's similar, it would be nice
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: if you don't do this, if you can also find
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: ways in your marriage to make sure that your husband
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: does see you guys as equal where he does feel
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: like you guys are a team, where where he may
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: not feel like you're doing everything and he has no
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: say cause let's have a real conversation, right. As somebody
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: who grew up producing housewives, I'm not gonna name names,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: but what I will say is the reason why a
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: lot of housewives are divorced is because they were stay
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: at home mom and then all of a sudden they
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: did have this fame. And yes, the large percentage of
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: a divorce is because the husband felt not seen. However,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I have witness with my own eyes how some women,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: not all, but some women do treat their men differently
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: once they get rid of ye and the man who
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: you used to run things by, you do not have
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: a team and when and you don't, you don't pillo
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: talk anymore, and you don't include him, and it is
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: confusing sometimes if the dynamic was different, right, And that's
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: why I encourage everybody. The biggest mistake that marriages make
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: is that nobody wants to have a conversation about, Hey,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: this dynamic has changed, let's talk about it.
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: I'm so happy you said that. And there's one bit
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: of nuance that I want to add because I think
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: that point is so perfect because so many women they
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: need to hear that message. I would dare to guess
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: that the reason why Mona felt so empowered to keep
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: him safe is because he keeps her safe. And what
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: ends up happening is in a lot of those relationships,
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: when the man was making the money, he was being
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: ego centric and wielding it, and when they switch places,
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: she mimics him. So when he was acting like, well,
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: I'm making the money, so you can only say but
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: so much when she switches places with him, she's like, well,
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: if you got to talk to me crazy for fifteen
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: years when you had the money, Now that I have money,
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: it's your turn, buddy, and it becomes very tit for tat,
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: And so I think a lot of those ball busting
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: women are often mimicking what the men were doing when
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: they were the one who had the money. And I
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: think what everybody has to do is whoever is making
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: the bread, right, whoever's making the bread, has to understand
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: is how do I keep my partner safe so that
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: when it's time for us to switch places because life
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: ebbs and flows them, mimicking me doesn't feel like an
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: assault because you were doing it. But now that I
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: got the coin, I'm acting just like you. Now I'm
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: a ball buster and you're being masculated. But my dignity
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: didn't matter when you made the money. And so I
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: think what we're realizing is when a man is in
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: a relationship, and we talk about men being leaderships and
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: old school women who want that kind of traditional relationship,
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: if a man is leading you in a way that
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: makes you feel safe when you're the one who has
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: to lead. You had a great example of what it
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: looks like because now you can give back what you
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: already received. But if he was in your face making
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: you feel small when he had the money, there's a
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: part of you subconsciously that's gonna want to do that
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: back when it's your turn.
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: Agreed, everybody has.
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: To be doing their job. I think it's a co
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: creative experience. I think Mona protected her husband because her
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: husband probably protects the doction out of her. I love that.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: It's awful when anyone does it right and at church
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: and then the payback like that's someone you should not
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: even be with.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: I think if you even think to treat your partner
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: jacked up because you have more money than them, or
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: you're more famous in them, why even with them? Is
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: that your product?
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: Because I think that's I think that's evil. I remember
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: I had a public relationship a few years back. Y'all
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: all know who I'm talking about, and we did a
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: reality show together, and I was very protective over him,
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: Like I did not let people play about his name
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: and say, you know none of that stuff and they
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: didn't know. But at the house, I was very protective.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: We went somewhere, he's strapped, he's from a military. He's
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: making sure I'm good, that you know all the basic things,
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: the door and all that stuff. But just like I
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: felt like I had a manner on me that protects me.
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: When it's time for me to go on the air
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: and do my show, he's setting up the lights. So
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: I believe he was helped me make more money, right,
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: So how dare I make emaculate him and be like
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: and throw it back in his face when you really
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: were with me shooting in the gym, You really were
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: with me, And there's nothing wrong with saying that. Give
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: you a partner with the props when they are there
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: for you, providing that emotional support they're looking after.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: That is invaluable. Actually, especially in this business.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: Women, when you go out there, we already know how
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: foul the businesses is the fact that you made it
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: and you're more successful financially than your man. Don't go
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: ahead and abuse him and throw it in his face
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: later on, and vice versa. Men that have the money
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: and they treat their women like crap because oh I
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: got it, brand saying all that nonsense.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: You shouldn't be that person.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: You should beat another man that's you feel that you're
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: equal seriously, because that's very, that's very, that's very, that's
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: a that's a horrible like are you in competition with
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: your woman?
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: So I want to get into the latest between Candy
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: and Todd, Blue Claudia and Dustin. So Candy calls out Todd.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's the other story that I'll resectulate.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: The TMZ headline is Candy Bird slams Todd Tucker as
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: a guest house squatter. Okay, Candy is saying that Todd
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: is living rent free in her guest house admit their
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: bit of divorce and not paying a dime in rent.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: According to new documents obtained by TMZ.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: So again that's the TMZ headline. Candy slam Todd for
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: not contributing financially to the home and for the care
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: of their kids as they continue to fight over custody
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: and support.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Candy has said since they've been separated.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Tod's been living in her guest home in Atlanta, which
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: she says is on her property purchased before their marriage.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: In the court documents, Candy said that Todd has not
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: paid a single expense for the maintenance and upkeep of
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: the home, to include utilities, gas, long cair, water, pest control,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: or even fees associated with the alarm system. On top
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: of that, Candy's alleging that Todd has not provided any
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: support for the home where their.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Two kids live. She said she is the traditional character.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Did she's the traditional Claudia I'm realna legal note, She
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: said she is a traditional caregiver for the kids despite
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: her active professional life as an entertainer and reality star.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Candy also sent the legal documents that she hired a nanny.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Who does most of the rest of his slack.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Despite Tod's claim on social media that he is.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: An active father. Todd has responded to.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: That, and in his filling Todd admitted that yes, he
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: is living in the guest house, but he said it's
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: because Candy unanal okay.
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: Unilaterally removed from the main house by directing her Okay,
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: Todd is saying that she moved him from the house child,
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: give y'all the real version, and he also is alleged
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: that he was removed from the main home directing her
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: family members.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: To relocate his stuff without his consent and without court intervention.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Todd is saying that he did not voluntarily leave the home,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: but did not fight Candy on it in order to
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: preserve peace, instability, and last, but not least, Todd has
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: said that Candy has been New York working on a
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Broadway project while he has been in Georgia taking care
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: of the kids. Blue, what are your thoughts on the
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: latest update between Candy and Todd, because it is starting
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: to get a little bit messy.
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: I think this is good, old fashioned weaponized incompetence. It's
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: funny that we were just talking about protecting your partner.
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: This is when keeping it real goes wrong. Sometimes you
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: can protect your partners to the point where you enable
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: bad behavior and you normalize it, and so when you
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: try to course correct it because you're getting let's say
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: a divorce, they are now acting like a child having
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: a tantrum. Because well, you never took away my binkie
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: before before bedtime. Why are you suddenly having all these
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: rules and healthy boundaries now? I think we saw Candy
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: being very protective of Todd. We just talked about this,
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: right even when Mama Joyce was talking about him crazy,
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: she was always like, that's my husband. I love him,
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: X Y and Z. Todd has been enabled, in my opinion,
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: just my opinion, he's been about. I think Todd's been
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: enabled to be with a woman who gets shit done
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: and he knows that he doesn't have to do but
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: so much because Can's gonna always figure out how to
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: get things done. That is weaponized and competence. Because now
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: that they're no longer in a marital relationship in the
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: traditional sense, he's still expecting her grace to overextend to
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: him in a way that you're not her husband anymore.
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: You're her a.
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: Strange husband about to be divorced from her. And so
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: I think Todd has probably been acting like this in
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: ways that Candy has not told us not to embarrass him,
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: and now that they're about to get a divorce, she's
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: being honest about how little he's investing. I don't think
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: this is new, and he still thinks that he has
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: a case because he's used to being able to act
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: like this and get away with it. Also with the
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: family removing the items, as a grown ass man with
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: a shred of dignity who knows how to stand on
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: your own because you haven't been suckling on your wife's
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: teeth for the last fourteen years. If the family took
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: your stuff and put it in the guest house, he'd
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: be like, you know what, I'm gonna figure out someplace
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: else to go. I can make my own money, and
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: I will make sure that I still spend time with
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: my children, where for you just be squatting in the
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: guest house and still allegedly not be taking care of
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: your kids and be throwing a little look back that
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: she's employed and therefore somehow not as good as a mother.
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: There's something so nasty and weak about that. There's something
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: nasty and weak and spiteful about how Todd is acting
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: that makes me believe that he was enabled when they
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: were married, And now that Candy's finally trying to stet boundaries,
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: he thinks that that she's being unfair because she's finally
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: making back like a grown up.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Dustin.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: So I actually echo off quite a few sentiments that
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Boo just expressed, right, because I think that Todd's response
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: her what you just shared with us to what Candy
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: offered in the first place, right, which was, Hey, I've
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: been paying and she she itemized right, she got specific.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: I've been paying the alarm bill. I've been paying for
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: the education. I've been paying for the staff to help,
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: you know, get be caregivers for the kids. I've been
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: paying for all the expenses to the home, the long care.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: This this that she got really specific about what she
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: been helping, what she been facilitating, and really specific about
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: what Todd.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: Was not doing.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: His response was, your damn family moved me out the
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: house into the guest house, and I didn't say nothing
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: about it because I still wanted us to be cool.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: And you're away in New York working making money, and
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I'm here at the house and I have been doing
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: some things with the kids. That doesn't address any of
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: the financial items that Candy outlined in that initial piece
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: that you share with us.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: So that makes me feel like I'm assuming here.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: I'm really I'm just that makes me feel like it's very,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: very possible that their initial breakdown in general could have
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: been connected to Todd not contributing to the household expenses
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: in some way, you know what I'm saying.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: I think Candy left the Housewives.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: She started doing other things, tour with Escape, produced multiple
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: plays on Broadway, which he had partnered with him on.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: She was working and doing things, and we kind of
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: stopped seeing Todd talking about opening another restaurant or running
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: those businesses or being proactive. He did put out his
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: film The Past, but that was something that he partnered
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: with Candy on, so it wasn't independent of that.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: I know he has a new film out.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if Candy is a part of that
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: or not, but I think that this might all be
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: about time making a mistake on top of not working
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: and her being fed up with that. I think that
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: that's what that all cooled me into a little bit, Claudia.
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: I mean, she.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: Candy protected him so much and put him on every project.
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: Let's be clear, Like not take away from Todd. He
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: was working as a producer when she met him, right,
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: but like her name definitely like ups the anti, you know,
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: and she brought him on all these opportunities where if
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: it was a Todd maybe could have got done. But
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: Todd and Candy is gonna get done. It's gonna get done.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: But what I have a problem with him is complaining
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: about her being gone in New York working so much
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: and not being there for the kids, all while living
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: and benefiting off of said work that she does to
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: make it where you can live in the big house
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: and even to the guest house rent free, and then
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: also not contribute to the kids. You can't have it
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: both way, my boy. You cannot. You know, like I'd
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: be damn if I protected you all these years where together,
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: and then when things you don't get your way anymore,
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: or we go and we're going through our thing, we're
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: breaking up. Whatever you try to put me on blast.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: That's for the judges. She's not here, she's gone all
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: the time. She's not a present mother. She can't really
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: possibly be a good mom. That's what that's for. That's
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: a dog whistle for the courts, having it on record.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: He started this campaign a few months back, Daddy Daycare,
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: Daddy Daycare, really putting it out there, like almost making it.
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: And nothing is worse for a woman than to be
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: viewed as a woman. That's not present for their kids,
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: and that's a quick way to demonize her and make
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: her seem like, yeah, she works and she makes the money.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: But once again it's another situation humbling. I gotta bring
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: you down a little bit. So she's now demonized for
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: doing something that benefits you. That is crazy, Todd and
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: you know that, like you know that. And then of
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: course you're not going to be in the big house
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: with her, And of course it's even generous for you'd
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: be in the guest house.
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: But I think that may have been in the prenup.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: But like why I'll touch on that after you go.
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: Why would you want to be in the same Like
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: it's uncomfortable going through a divorce when people were at
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: the point now where is they're taking shots now right
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: in the media.
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: Of course we can't be up on the same roof.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: And really, I don't want you on my property.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: It's time for you to take those checks that we
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: made together and go be a grown up and go
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: get a place for you so you can like entertain
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: the kids when you have when you have them.
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: I just don't like that.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: Don't don't criticize the very hand that's making this cushy
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: lef style possible for you right now, that's that's wrong.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: That's wrong.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: And as you brought up the prenup, and again, I'm
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: not sure if this aired made the cut and rain
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Drops tell me if I tell.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Me if it didn't.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: From my understanding, because obviously you guys know, I'll produce
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: the wedding special. And from my memory, I do believe
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: allegedly that in their prenup, if something happened like a
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: separation or divorce, that is in the prenup, that Todd
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: would be in the guest house right.
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: That the prenup said that he had thirty days to
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: kate the main house if they ever got divorced.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, So I want you guys to know that's why
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: he's in the guest house because that is a part
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: of the prena. Now I don't know how long that is.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: It could be until the divorce is final. But I
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: wanted to clear up because a lot of people are
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: calling him a squatter and I just wanted them to
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: know that legally he does have a right to be
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: in the guest house.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: He's not saying it's still getting again again.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Thankfully, I worked on the show and what I can say,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: because I was a president, Candy has step us on
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: camera that.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: When Candy bought the house.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: In cash, and Candy bought that house before she met Todd.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: She bought the house in cash, and Candy renovated the
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: house and cash.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: She did all this before she met Todd. From my
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: recollection producing housewas of Atlanta.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: It was said that because the house is paid for,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: there's no mortgage, that Todd's contribution.
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: Was the utilities and he's not paying that right now.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Right So I wanted to bring that up because again,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I know the audience and the rangeops is like, but
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: why she talked about the alarm system, the utilities. I
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: think she's saying that because part of their agreement was
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: because the house is paid for, his contributions was the
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: utility bills.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: And I do believe that allegedly that's why she put
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: that in there.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: So again I want to add some context to it
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: based on on that too. What I want to talk
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: about next in terms of Candy and Todd, as this
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: is getting messier than I think we all thought it
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: was going to be. Quality, I'll start with you, are
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: you because your friends with Candy in real life? Y'all
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: hang out, you know, when when of you guys are
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: able to be in the same city. Are you so
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: prize that it is getting this messy because we're learning
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: new information weekly based on the constant filing of these documents,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: And are you surprised that they weren't able to amicably
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: settle all of this before the public gets to know
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: such pertinent information.
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: Well, I want to like put too much dip on
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: my chip.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: With my relationship with her, it's just once in a while,
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: like I don't talk to on the phone like that.
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: We definitely show love on social media and stuff like that,
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: and we did take her out for our birthday last year,
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: and you know, I saw those signs.
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: No, I'm not surprised.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: This is normal for any relationship, right The person you
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: break up with is not the person you married.
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: You're the person who get together with.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: It's all love and beautiful until it's not, you know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: and sadly this happens. Like the person you love the
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: most is like the person that's like dead to you.
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: You don't even talk to them anymore.
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: You resent them, you despise them, you know, because you're disappointed.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: I'm not surprised that it went like this. Actually, when
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: we were covering it, we were.
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: Saying it was good.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: I'm like, it's just a matter of time, because that's
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: kind of what It's rare to have a good breakup.
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: It's rare, especially when it's uneven like the you know,
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: the financially and and Candy has a fan base.
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: I'm sure he's getting irritated, and.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: Rightfully so from what people are saying about him.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Well, he even posted Claudia on Instagram. He he posted
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Rick Ross songs scheme in State scheming and obviously we
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: know that one of the famous saying it is a
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: scheme that Todd sets set up got out to birth up.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: No, that's yeah, I'm birth yeah for that one.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: So he played the song stayed scheming Claudia and then
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: the Captain Claudia, he brought the roller the F word.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: So do you think that is because yeah, Blue, he said.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Do you think but Clauda to your point, do you
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: think that candy fan base is attacking him? And this
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: is his way of.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: Of course he's getting the most smoke even here on
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: the show, like everywhere, he's getting the most smoke. But
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: because that's how we see it where I mean, we're
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: seeing I think the part that makes it worse is
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: how protective Candy was of him, and that's why he's
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: getting the smoke more of a lot of smoke. It
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: ain't like it people can't call out women. They get
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: called out all the time. But I think in this regard,
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: we're more rexample quicker to side with her on this
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: because she, like y'all said earlier, she went out of
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: her way to check her family and like not let
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: anybody diminish time.
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: She definitely made sure no we this is my man
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: and he's not my underling.
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: She never treated him like that whatever they had going on,
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: she did not publicly treat him like that. So then
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: you almost feel like, damn you you you like you
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: said Blue, ungrateful, like you know, you would think I
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: have built some equity with you that in the game
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: with you, like okay, if it goes bad, you can't
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: take away that I at your bag. I elevated you
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: career wise, monetarily, and I definitely didn't let no one
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: play in your face about I never let no one
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: disrespect me, including my own mother and aunts.
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: So then to see it go like this is like
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: damn bro, Like.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Well, well there are people dusting and blue you can
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: chime into to Claudia's point. There are people, though, Claudia,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: because I want to make sure we have both sides.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: There are people, though Claudia, who have said that Todd
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: wasn't protected by her family in terms of the things
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: they would say about him, and then to hear.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: That they moved out his stuff. Do you think that that.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Do you think the Mama Joyce, let's call out what
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: it is. Do you think the Mama and Joyce think
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: never ever went away? Like you just like that always
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: stayed with him and he did lose his mom. He
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: doesn't have his father's decease, his mother's decease, So.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Do you think a lot of that never left the state?
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: Of course, because we're still saying to this day, it's
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: a great it's it should be on a T shirt.
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: It's a great saying.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: It's funny, right, and it's stuck to him and he's
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: now branded by that, like people, you know, you don't even.
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: Know what the situation was that she said that for,
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: but we all know it's people use that. That's a
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: mainstream saying now like it really is a scheme that's
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: taught that up.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: People say that that didn't even watch the Housewives, so
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: of course he's gonna feel defensive. And yeah, you're right,
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: the family didn't protect him. I think Candy did her best.
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah they're different, Okay, yeah, I said sorry. It's tricky.
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: It's tricky when your family is committed to being ignorant
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: and people are seeing you struggling to respect your mother
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: while still honoring your husband. The effort that Candy has,
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: I think he is ungrateful, because let's keep it a stack.
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: Candy's not perfect. Nobody is perfect, right, there are moments
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: where she could have fought a little bit harder, but
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: she loved Mama joys that she loves Todd, so it
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: got tricky for her. What makes me upset is I've
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: said this. I think I said this when they first
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: announced the divorce to you guys, I one hundred percent personally.
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: Nobody else I to agree with me. I believe that
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: Todd resents how exalted Candy is in general and thought
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: the divorce would be the opportunities to nick her armor
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: a little bit. Because when they first announced the divorce,
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: she was being super lovely about it, like, you know what,
• 47:18
  Speaker 7: we're still going to be friends. That's still the father
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: of my children. We spend Thanksgiving together, doesn't have to
• 47:24
  Speaker 7: be weird. She was still going to protect him post breakup,
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: and he was like, look at this bitch. They're talking
• 47:31
  Speaker 7: crazy about me and she's still on the kumbaya shit.
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: I want to show that she's not perfect. I think
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: there's a pot of Todd who was mad at the audience,
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: but it's okay with taking it out on Candy. He
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: wants to show that she's not as perfect as we
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: all think on his way out, and that is resentment.
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: Resentment is every psychologist we can talk to. Resentment is
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: the most dangerous thing a partner can feel about you.
• 47:51
  Speaker 7: It means they will spite you just to spite you,
• 47:54
  Speaker 7: even if you are giving them every incentive to have
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: their back. He resents her. I'm gonna die on that
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: hill he resents her, and that's bigger than Mama Joyce, Dustin.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: You know, y'all know how I approach things.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: I think we need a rubric here, a guide here
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: to like navigate these proceedings. And to me, the only
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: thing that we can depend on are the court documents
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: that have, you know, specific line items in them that
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: deserve our attention. And while we could sit up and
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: talk about whether we feel like it was cool the
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: way that Mama Joys and them were disrespectful at times
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: to Todd, or the way that there was static between
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: someone Candy's family that loved her fiercely and was protective
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: over her. Naturally, that doesn't say where her behavior was
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: right or wrong. I'm just saying that's what happened. We
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: could talk about that all damn day. But to me,
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: what we should talk about is what the fuck is
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: in them papers and what they are negotiating back and
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: forth with in court. And when you read the list
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: of items. Now one time that I hear Mama Joyce's
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: rude comments, Now one time that I hear, you know,
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: anything of that sort. His illustration of being put out
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: of the house by her family. That's what happens when
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: people have a divorce and a breakup. The families of
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: the people come and support them in the breakdown of
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: the marriage and the living arrangements. That's what happens. So
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: thank you for having that context, But it's not indicative
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: of mistreatment to me, at least to my ear when
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: I hear it. Now again, I think that people use
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: their feelings about and their opinions about what they saw
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: on the show and the way that people were spoken
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: to and treated, and they use those feelings to substantiate
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: then taking a side in this divorce, and I feel
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: like that's ridiculous. Right, They got two fucking kids together
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: that are young and that are more than enough of
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: a reason for them to figure it the fuck out
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: and figure out how to get along with each other
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: and make this as harmonious as possible. Who's right and
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: who's wrong to me is pretty clear based on the
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: fact that he got put out the house.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: Or not, right or wrong? Who broke the marriage?
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: Right, it's pretty clear based on the fact that he
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: got put out with our resistance of the house, he's
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: not working gainfully as per the agreement that you just read.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, it just paints a certain picture for us, right,
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: and so they have some things to figure out.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: This ain't about whether or not we like.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: The way Mama Joyce talked to him, or the fact
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: that Candy didn't intervene enough or.
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: None of that shit.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: Figure out what's on the papers and move the fuck on,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: because if it was me, I wouldn't give a damn
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: about none of this. What do you need from me?
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Let's figure out how to dissolve this. I want to
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: be done with your ass and I don't want to
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: fight with you either. Let's just be done and get
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: this finished because we got fucking children to raise.
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: So I think.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: That and I know I'm being long winded, but they
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: was on TV for fourteen seasons, so we got a
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: lot of shit to talk about, So I think that,
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: People just form strong opinions about the way that in
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: the systems that they ran their house with. People watch
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: the show, form strong opinions as they should on the
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: show that showcases your life, but they're.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: Carrying those opinions over in this divorce and they just
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: don't belong there to me.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Sorry, that's now, and listens everything you said. A lot
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: of people are invested because, like you said, they were
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: on the show together for Todd joined season five and
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Candy left the show after season fifteen, so Todd ten
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: seasons on the show, Candy fourteen, So people are invested. Listen,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: my thoughts and prayers brought to Candy, Todd and children.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Hopefully they can reach an amicable decision based on their
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: divorce because you know, at the end of the day,
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: what I will say is I've seen firsthand how much
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: they love each other, and like said Claudia Sin and
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Blue said, obviously something happened in the marriage clearly, just
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: based on the living situation that I don't want to
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: speculate on because that hasn't been talked about, and I
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: know there's other things being talked about. I don't want
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: us to touch that because I would rather wait until
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: that does come out by both parties, and until then,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: I don't want this to be a speculative moment of
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: But he must have did that, she hasn't said in
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: the court documents. She said a lot in clear launch systems.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: If you go talk about the ADT, you can talk
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: about okay, So I'll say that. I want to move
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: on to what's happening on Mariti Medicine.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: As we all know, Quad is in her forties.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: She has this boyfriend named King, and Quad is going
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: through her IVF journey.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: It was a very emotional episode of Maritime.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Medicine last night where Quad not only informed her castmates
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: that unfortun fortunately the process of her trying to have
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: a baby did not take.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: She had a scene with King that will get to
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: in a.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Second, But before that, Quad broke down and said that
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: she should have listened to doctor Jackie and doctor Simone
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: when they told her in her thirties to freeze your eggs,
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: and she said she didn't listen because she thought she
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: had more time, and being I believe Quad, I'm sorry
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: if I got the age wrong.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: I believe Quad is.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Forty four and at this stage in her life it's not.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: It's not working out so far of her having a baby.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: I want to talk to the ladies first about this, Claudia,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: when you saw that scene, what are your thoughts on that?
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: And is it something that a lot of women in
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: your friend group also thought that they have more time
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: and they did not freeze their aids and their twenties
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: and thirties and do they regret it now?
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, thousand percent.
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: Terracey Emans telling me like twelve maybe ten twelve years ago,
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: we would have lunch and she's like, have you frozen
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: your eggs?
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: And I said no, I'm good.
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: You know, everything's like periods on time if I'm healthy.
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: She's like, you should and she's like I have. She's like,
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I want to have a baby,
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: but I might meet a partner one day and she
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: I didn't do it.
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: So I've always been on the fence.
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I do see a lot of women with
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: some women that had chosen career to focus on career,
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: and sadly it seems like it's hard to have both,
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: Do I regret it? Yeah? Sometimes I do.
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: I that was heartbreaking to watch that because like, I
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: don't I'm not dying to have a kid, but she
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: obviously really wants to be a mom. So like knowing
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: that that's something you really really want and there are
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: things that you could have done that could have possible
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: made that easy for you, it's it's heartbreaking the sea.
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: I'll say it. I said it before and I'll say
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: it again.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: I just feel like in America, especially, I would say
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: Black women more than any of the demographic, don't usually
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: have the luxury to take a time out from their
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: career to take maternity leave. It's like always, like the
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: pressure is always on one hundred blue talk about your
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: high blood pressure. I'm always I have anxiety and ada.
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: We don't have the luxury a lot of times, you know,
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: and to like prioritize that. So we're busy working, getting money,
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: you know, and the time the years go by.
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: Yes, it's very sad.
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: I would encourage young girls, if you really feel in
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: your heart you want to have a baby, please freeze
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: your eggs until you're in a better position.
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: It's so sad to see that. Yeah, it's very common,
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: very very calmon my friend's circle.
• 55:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Blue, that scene was first of why I agree
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: with everything Claudia I said that scene was a little
• 55:54
  Speaker 7: triggering for me to watch. I don't use that word.
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: I know it's a trendy word, but I don't get
• 55:58
  Speaker 7: triggered easily. But like, it broke my heart seeing that
• 56:03
  Speaker 7: I've said this before and here in twenty twenty, Ebony K.
• 56:06
  Speaker 7: Williams told me to freeze my eggs and I started
• 56:10
  Speaker 7: the process. And the place they sent me in Beverly
• 56:13
  Speaker 7: Hills was so racist to me. It kind of soured
• 56:17
  Speaker 7: me on it, you know what I mean. They thought
• 56:19
  Speaker 7: I was just a young black girl and what are
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: you doing it? Like they had to look at my
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: age be like, oh no, she's grown, but like they
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: were treating me like some young black girl.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: Come up.
• 56:26
  Speaker 7: I didn't like how I was treated, and the guy
• 56:28
  Speaker 7: I was talking to at the time told me, Oh,
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: we could just do it the old fashionable. You ain't
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: got worried about that plotois. He was full of it.
• 56:34
  Speaker 7: And looking back, I regret that I was so easily
• 56:37
  Speaker 7: scared off because in a couple of years later, when
• 56:40
  Speaker 7: I see Ebony with her baby, and I'm like, fuck,
• 56:42
  Speaker 7: I lost Like the years went by so quick between
• 56:46
  Speaker 7: her telling me and then I looked up and she
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: had a baby, and I was like, oh my god,
• 56:49
  Speaker 7: my window right. And there's a sadness that came over
• 56:52
  Speaker 7: me when I was like, I kept on deep prioritizing it,
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: and my window might have just shut on me. And
• 56:59
  Speaker 7: that it's painful to realize that you are so busy
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: taking care of your family. I have elderly parents. I
• 57:04
  Speaker 7: pay all their bills. I'm taking care of my mom
• 57:06
  Speaker 7: who has kidney fellure, and my stepdad and all the
• 57:08
  Speaker 7: people in my family that I'm taking care of. And
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: when you're the breadwinner, this is something black women don't
• 57:12
  Speaker 7: talk about. I'm not going to cry.
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: It's okay if you do, though, this is serious. This
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: is a sad thing, you know. It's like.
• 57:20
  Speaker 7: It's a thing called network poverty.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Right where you make it.
• 57:24
  Speaker 7: You're living your dreams, you're doing all these fun shows,
• 57:27
  Speaker 7: you're making good money, but it's not just your money.
• 57:31
  Speaker 7: You have cousins who need groceries, and parents who are aging,
• 57:35
  Speaker 7: and people in your life who you love who weren't
• 57:37
  Speaker 7: as brave as you, and so you feel compelled to
• 57:40
  Speaker 7: like make sure that you reach back and you take
• 57:42
  Speaker 7: care of them. And then you look up and the
• 57:43
  Speaker 7: one thing you wanted you forgot to prioritize, and so that, yeah,
• 57:48
  Speaker 7: it broke my heart.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: No, and my Claudia said, listen, well, first of all,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: my heart was out to you, Claudia, and to you Lou.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: The reason like it doesn't affect us too, we do well.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing and the reason why I've known
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Quad for years, right.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: I never knew.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: In my conversations with Quad that that was even having
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: a child with something on her list of things to do,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: because me and Quap was talking about like a bunch
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: of other stuff.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: So seeing her go through this process, I was like, Wow.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: And one thing I want to ask you two before
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: I get to Dustin, is the emotional toll that going
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: through Iva has on couples, because what we're seeing this
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: season with King and Quad.
• 58:43
  Speaker 9: Is this.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Sort of like I feel they're disconnected, right, But I
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: do want to talk about the the emotional excuse me,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: turmoil that the ivy of journey and the fertility treatments
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: and that pressure that applies to not just the woman
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: but the man too. And and have you guys seen
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: that in y'all experience, which our friends too.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: I think when you go through IVF, it makes it unsexy,
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: like right, it becomes appointment setting, it becomes okay, we
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: got to do it right now with all that stuff,
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: right with even timing everything out, trying to get pregnant
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: in natural with an IVF, it's you're injecting yourself with hormones.
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: You're not yourself, you're not as fun as you once were.
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: And your man sometimes you're making check out and you're
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: doing this at the risk of you know, Black women
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: are the most prone to dyeing childbirth in this country
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: and a lot of countries actually the comparison to white
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: bursts and attorney rates the morality.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: What am I saying?
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: What am I trying to say?
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Mortality?
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, thank you? Mortality rates through the roof of
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: black women. So you're risking all this and then on
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: top of it, you're not sexy to your man right
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: now because you're going through all these hormonal changes.
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: Yes, it's it's it's very sad.
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: I mean I never went through IVF, but I had
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: a miscarriage before and I was abandoned by my mate.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: I said, actually, what caused it? I didn't eat for
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: three days and then I went to the doctor's by
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: myself or an ultrasound and they were like, oh and
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: very it was like same thing, blue white clinic place.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: The doctor was very hard, like very hard and me
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: not caring to me he said it. So he was like,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: no heartbeat, kiddos. That's how we said it, baby dad,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: and that's how he said it. And I'm like, I'm
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: here by myself. And this person didn't have to carry
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: the guilds of it, never even checked up on me.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: It totally churned me off from being a mom. So,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: I you know, partners, I only say that to say
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: your role on this is so important supporting a woman,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: It's so important to like, yes, it may not be
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: sexy for you for a few months or six months
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: or a year or whatever, but like that is when
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: she needs you the most. And yes, it's it's it's
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: I don't know. It made me cold towards kids having kids,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: It really did, Yeah it did.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: Justin Yeah, you know, I don't have eggs. But what
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: I do know is it neither.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: I don't think, I don't know.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 7: I love.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: I like to do there.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: I'm a person who fiercely believes that women should have
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent control over their bodies and over the
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: decisions they make when it comes to their healthcare, motherhood,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: and childbearing, and all of that is very sensitive and
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: deeply personal for women.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: So I stay my ass up out of that.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: What I will say is that if you want to,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: if you choose to make a decision to take that
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: journey with your partner, then take the damn journey from
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: beginning to end.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: To me, you know, guess why you make a decision
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: to do that.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: You know what it entails going into it, You know
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: what the expectation is. You know the ways that you
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: can support, and you need to be open to keeping
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: an eye out for additional ways that you can support
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: your partner.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: As y'all navigate that shit.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: So I you know, I just think it's kind of
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: lame for people to get cold feet in the middle
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: of that process, and then the woman is sitting there
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: left to navigate these emotional waters alone. I just don't
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: think that's cool. That's all I will say. And everybody
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: see whatever their heart desires. If you want to be
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: a mom, I hope it works out for you. If
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: you're a woman who doesn't have that natural desire to
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: be a mom, you still can be gratefully grateful, I
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: mean greatly impactful, you know what I'm saying, to the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: lives of other children that you do have a relationship with.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: There's so many ways that you can pour into the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: next generation outside of traditional motherhood. So if that's something
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: people desire, I hope that they get their heart's desires.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: And if it doesn't happen for people that desire it,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: I hope they find additional ways to kind of pour
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: into the lives of young people.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 7: Charles, can I say one thing, and this is I'm
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 7: not gonna get sary. There is one thing that women
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 7: have to be honest with themselves about. That made me,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 7: despite my little emotional moment a couple seconds ago, make
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 7: peace with this. I always knew that I wanted to
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 7: be a mother, but not a single mother. And I
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 7: think back in the day, as a trauma response, Black
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 7: women were told be a mother by any means necessary,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 7: and I watched how much that killed the women in
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 7: my family. And so me not choosing to have a
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 7: child was because I wanted to do it as a
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 7: part of a partnership or just get me a dog, right,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 7: And so this new generation of more emotionally intelligent like
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 7: women who understand their options are saying, I want a child,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 7: but I don't want to do it in a way
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 7: that's tended to struggle, just to say I have a kid,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 7: and a lot of us who are the kids of
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 7: mothers who struggled know what it's like for the kid
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 7: as well. And so there's a bit of a generational
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 7: curse that's breaking that we're willing to make those hard
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 7: decisions rather than just have a child by any means necessary.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 7: And I find peace in knowing that I was going
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 7: to do my kid in the way that was best
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 7: for them or not at all. That's me not being selfish,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 7: because a lot of women feel like they have to.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 7: If you didn't have a child, because you didn't find
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 7: the right person to do it in the way where
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 7: you'd be supported. There's actually honor in being honest that
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 7: you wanted that support or not do.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: It at all.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: I one thousand percent agree with you. It's not that
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: I didn't want to be a mom. I did not
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: want to do it by myself.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 6: I did not.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: My mother struggled, left her country, beat my dad when
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: they got divorced. She was an immigrant with two black
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: kids in America making three hundred dollars a week, okay,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: and we had to struggle. And that's why I work
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: so hard. I will never be at the mercy of
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: a man that will take it away from me, or
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: stop me from eating or with I did, oh, I
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: already paid you this week, figure it out. I was
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: never going to do that to my kid, never ever, ever, ever, ever.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: And so if it wasn't going to be the perfect situation,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: and hey criticize me for one in the profession, but
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I wasn't gonna do it any other way.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: And then the one time I was vulnerable for a
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: man that was not my husband, that we were in love,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: and I was like actually looking forward to that baby.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: When I gave him the news, he abandoned me because
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: he had another situation going on, and it was just
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: so it was it was devastating, like that's when I
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: was on my suicidal It was all that stuff that
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: was happening. It was crazy, right, And I just I
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: know we're just sharing stuff like it's related to quiet.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: But women just have to go through so much. And
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: it's nothing wrong ladies that you want to have a
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: better life for your kid that you went through, Like Blue,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: I think we're.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: Both saying the same thing. There's nothing wrong. I don't
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 6: think that's being selfish. I think that's being generous.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: I want to give you what I didn't get, you know,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: and I think more people should be doing that.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: Let's I don't want to struggle.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: I don't want to.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 6: I don't want to like get the the video games
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 6: five years after the other kids.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: I don't want to like not know if I can
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: go on to track me with the other kids because
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: my father might not be kicking the money.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: I don't want to be like that.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: I don't want uh not be able to get the
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: cereal that I want for my kid. No fuck that,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: I'm not doing that. There's nothing wrong with that, Blue,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: There's nothing wrong with that. I think you do the
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: right thing. And you're younger, you got you got some
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: eggs up and now don't know, I don't know what
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: I got doing.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 7: I got three in the back, child, I got like
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 7: three random eggs in the back.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 6: About you up right now?
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: It might be the just the under achieve slackers that
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: are just left over, and I'm I'm too strict.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 6: I'll be like nah man athlete.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Well, I will say this, thank you guys for sharing
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: your personal story.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: I know that was a difficult topic to talk about,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: so I thank you too for being open and honest
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: And listen.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: One thing we do on this show we try to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: encourage the audience and look if you're able to, because
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: I know it's also costly. So if you are a
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: woman of particular age and you want kids, you know,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: please take heed to the advice and look into freezing
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: your eggs. Unfortunately, it is a real it is a
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: real thing. So my heart goes out to you, blow
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: you clas Enter, every woman who have to deal with this,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: and Quad, I love you, yes, okay.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Love you Quad. I also love you James Earl Jones
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: and Forrest well Cerve. Now we are getting into.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 7: That Segway was wild wild?
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: This is that? Did James Jones say? This is ce
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: it en? Or this is that?
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 7: Was James O.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Jones was.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: Just have to say, do just have to say, Okay,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: I want to get into this is a the Potomac Reunion.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: We gotta start off with the footage. I don't know
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: what it is about. Listening. Shout out to the production
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: company of.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: The network, because y'all are able to get these women
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: in these very your situations to film a week later,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: whether it's a week later coming home from jail, or
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: a week later in any situation. So Wendy and Eddie
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: shot a scene a week after getting arrested, and listen,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: I'm always going to be honest where a little bit
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: of my bias will show up. I am friends with
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: doctor Wendy in real life. I will by saying this,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: I love you Wendy, I love you Eddie, and you
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: know we'll see the due process and core well, I
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: will say watching that scene where Eddie and Wendy were
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: recapping their arrest, and keep in mind rain dropped.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: They shot this a week later after getting arrested.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: The part that struck me to my core that I
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: did not see coming was when Wendy.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Asked Eddie could their marriage survive it? And I thought
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: to myself.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: Like, wait, what are we talking about? Because again, when
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: we watch the show, it appears they have, you know,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: the strongest marriage out of anybody. So when she posted
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: that question, it took me by surprise. And the reason
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: why it took me by surprise is because this is
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: my opinion based on what I saw.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: Her saying that made me believe this was allegedly.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: All on Eddie and that there was some sort of
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: blame put on him.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: If I got that wrong, I got it wrong.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you guys my initial reaction seeing her say that.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: And not only did she say that.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Wendy also said I'm not going to be the same
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: after this. I'm not the same now are you going
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: to be okay with that?
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: And again I was like, there seems to be this
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say this blame for him, but there
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: did seem to be something put.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: More on him.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: And in that moment, I thought, to myself, is Wendy
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: saying to us that.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: This was all Eddie and not her allegedly?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: Or did Eddie get did Eddie get her into this situation.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: What we did see in these alleged emails was that
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: Eddie allegedly said to amp up the amount right, And
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: for me, it was sort of like, Okay, is Eddie
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: responsible for what's about to happen? And she's saying to
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: him because you put me in this situation, I don't
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: know if this matterage is going to work out for me.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: I could have gone that all wrong. Dustin, when you watch.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: That, what were your thoughts on that scene itself before
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: we get to reunion.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt a little a little tug internally when
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: Wendy said that in that scene, because it did pose
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: some questions in my head like Okay, well is she
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: place and blame here is she?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: But then I thought too, you know.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: If you're a married couple and both of you have
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: been accused of some of the things that Wendy and
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: Eddie are accused of, it's a lot of logistics involved, right,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: a lot of decisions that.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: Have to be made.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: It's a lot of changes that are gonna come. We
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: know that they had asked a judge to try them separately,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: right Carlos initially, and so that coupled with those questions
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: that she was asking Eddie makes me feel like maybe
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: there was a situation where she wants to kind of identify,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: you know, who's at fault here. I don't know, she
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: could have just been asking him that, like as our
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: marriage is going to survive at if one of us
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: has to go and one of us has to stay.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: Look what happened with Teresa Jedyce and her asshole ex husband.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: Look what happened to them?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Right who had the audacity to have his deported ass
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: on the internet complaining about the bad Bunny super Bowl.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: But I'm not even gonna go off about that shit
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: this week. I'm gonna leave it there. But anyway, but
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: it's the.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: Same thing talk.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: But to add to your point, does and to add
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: to your point, Teresa Sarah on the show publicly the
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: interviews that she blames jump.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so like that you have to think about that
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: and that resentment is a real thing, you know what
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: I mean When you start talking about jeopardizing somebody's damn family,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: the kids, stability, all that kind of stuff that can
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: really tear a relationship apart, even if y'all did the
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: shit together or not. So I don't know, but I
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: definitely ask myself those same questions that you just identified
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: in that scene, for sure.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 5: Claudia, you know what struck me as a red flag
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: or like my antenna went up When they were doing
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: that scene, they were on two different scripts. Her overacting
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: of being dramatic in that scene was sending me like
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: the way she was talking, I'm sorry, Wendy, I rock
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: with you. I think you look bambas hell, you funny, smart,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: you got you know, for degrees and all that. But
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: she was like, and I know bad acting because I
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: do it all the time. It was like I was
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 5: on the scene and they were like, Okay, okay, you
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 5: need to act like you got to really sell this right.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 6: I would be like, do you think.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 7: Our marriage not the baby voice?
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 6: Do you think we could surmart?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: And when you don't talk like that when I'm talking,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: when you talk to your dude, you'd be like, I'm worried,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: Like do you think we're gonna make it? You would
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: say it like that. But I just felt like she
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: was really putting a lot on it. So I don't
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: think she's gonna send And I think they whatever it is,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 5: I think they both have equal now.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 6: I think they both know what it is.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying they're gooidty, but I I don't think
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: he just blindly did something and Wendy had no lounger.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: She's too smart, she's too locked in, she's too observant.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 6: She's not a dummy, you know what I mean? I
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: don't know.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: I hope they're innocent. I hope that there's a big
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: misunderstanding here. But I also will say this in their
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: defense in a way, when it comes to insurance fraud
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: and overestimating stuff, I'm all for it.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: I don't hear she did we neither.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: I'm not even because the way they take your money
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: every damn month for car I've never used my car
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 5: insurance for nothing.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 6: I pay seven hundred a month of my car insurance. Okay,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 6: house insurance. Never used it.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: You've got five times, you get more of You've got
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: my money like five times over already.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 6: So I don't feel as bad.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: White people do it all the time, all the time,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: and it never comes off as a scammer. It's like
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: just kind of like business as usual. It's right called
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: crime when it's them. So I'm not gonna sit here
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: and say I'm even mad at them because let.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 6: Me tell you something. If I lose this necklace, I
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 6: lost all of them. That's just that's the game, y'all.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 6: Julie's insurance is expensive. Damn. I can't lose no jewel.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: Now I can't file a claim because they gonna clip this.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: You are why.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: I just messed up. I didn't say the sea word, though, but.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 7: You didn't see next Thursday. I have a theory, y'all.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: You want to hear it.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: He seemed casual in to scene. He was like, I mean,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 6: you know whatever, and she was like.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 5: I and he was like, but I mean, he was
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: like matter of fact, and I was like, there a
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 5: few okay, I'm sorry.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 7: First of all, she said he he'd be eating edibles
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 7: before he filmed, so he might have just been a
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 7: little hot. She's on supply, so there's that. I have
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 7: a small theory. Walk with me for a second. When
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 7: they first started on the show, they were talking about
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 7: how Eddie was a strange from his family because they
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 7: didn't approve of Wendy. And we know that Wendy comes
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 7: from my mother, who needs to be kept.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, that lady.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 7: Needs to be kept. I from watching them and reading
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 7: court documents, am starting to get this niggling feeling, not niggling.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 7: He has a little niggling feeling. Yes, I'm back to
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 7: my niggles because we're about to talk about James L. Jones,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 7: and my niggling feeling is based on the emails. Whether
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 7: they came up together with it or not, Eddie was
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 7: the lead. Based on the emails. He's the one saying, Hey,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 7: is there anything else you want to add to the
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 7: list of the stuff that we're going to say? God
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 7: took right, So he was the lead just as a
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 7: matter of fact, based on the emails, he was the
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 7: one cross referencing and making sure that they had claimed
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 7: all the things for pam Olivan and them right and
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 7: Eddie Hennessy. I think that they want to make sure
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 7: that the heat is off of her because Eddie confessed
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 7: in a podcast they did a couple of years ago
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 7: that he just recently reconciled with the family that was
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 7: estrange from him. He just got back into their good
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 7: graces and have convinced them to welcome Wendy into the fray.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 7: So if we get caught in a ponderosa of swords,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 7: it's actually better for Eddie to take it on the
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 7: chin and be the fall guy. Number one, because Wendy
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 7: has a high earning potential with the show and everything
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 7: that's happening with the Bravo franchise. Number two, I gotta
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 7: still convince my family, who just started liking you five
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 7: minutes ago, to keep liking you now that we in
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 7: this kerfuffle. And number three, Eddie is less of a
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 7: sensational character. Whatever happens to Wendy, even if it happens
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 7: to Eddie, the headline is gonna be about Wendy, with
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 7: Eddie being a side feature.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 7: So the minute they said we want to be tried alone,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 7: that is something I asked my lawyer friend. She said,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 7: that's just something that couples do actually, when they're united
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 7: and want to make sure they have chance for somebody
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 7: to still be left behind with their children. If a
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 7: couple wants to make sure that at least one of
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 7: us can stay behind with the kids, they intentionally ask
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 7: to be tried separately, so they have twice as many
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 7: chances of somebody being able to take care of the children.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 7: That speaks to a cohesion, to a partnership, to the
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 7: very Wendy and Eddie that we know in love. It's
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 7: actually in alignment with them, and so I could see
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 7: them Pam Oliver and Eddie Hennessy saying, hey, yo, you're
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 7: the perfect fall guy if this goes left, because I
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 7: can still make money, I can still make sure that
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 7: we're good. Your family won't think that I'm the Jezebel
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 7: who led you astray, and you probably be out in
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 7: half the time because you're not as big of a
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 7: fish as I am. I think they're in cohutes, even
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 7: if she is doing the Escandolo telenovela acting. I actually
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 7: think that they are still working as a unit while
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 7: pretending to be having all of this emotional melee.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 6: And why they would be emailing these things when they
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 6: live in the same house.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 7: And it got cocky, like why would you email? You're
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 7: not good alleged thieves. Nobody think they're good at what
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 7: they do. But I think they're still scheming it.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: Babe, me me out back by the pools, who we
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: can talk. I'm a whisper in your ear, okay.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 7: And there's eight degrees between them. For degrees, these guys,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 7: we keep on talking about her fort degree hey has
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 7: for degrees as well. Sometimes you can be so smart
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 7: it makes you stupid again, That's how I know. I
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 7: think they're still.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Look at Hoot's friends.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: I don't I think that. I hope they. I hope
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: that it works out for them, That's what I hope.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: I hope that they don't have to go to jail.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: I hope they get to raise their kids. I hope
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: that if they do suffer a legal consequence, I hope
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: it's not jail time, if at all possible. And if
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: they did make that mistake, I just don't think they
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: like bad people. I think they just did something wrong.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: So that's I don't know. That's just how I feel,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And I hope that it
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: works out for them. I don't want to see them
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: get caught up even though they made like something. If
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: the allegations are true, they make some really sloppy ass
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: mistakes that are shocking considering their level of education. But
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: I don't want to see nothing happen to them. Call
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: it what you want, I don't, So, yeah, I hope
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: it work out in their favor.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'll say this, there was a heartbreaking scene
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: to see their son, not to see but to hear,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: excuse me, their son Carter like all of that was sad,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: and listen, this is my advice to all reality stars.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: I'll stay in my lane of reality. And this has
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: This is not too Wendy and Eddie before y'all say it.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: This is this is.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: This is to all reality stars. You you guys.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: Have to stop trying to keep up with the Joneses. Okay,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: it's and and and and perpetuate a lifestyle that isn't
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: real for you, because the moment you're you start doing that,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: you are. It's like when some want to say when
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: you lie once and you say a lie to keep
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: up with the lie you said at first, and the
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: next thing you know, it's a tsunamia lies.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: It's one of those.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: Things you do you have to constantly keep up. And
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: I just want all of you to know it's not
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: even worth it.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: It's not worth it.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: Nothing is worth looking over your shoulder being worried about
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: what's going to happen. It's like when you're driving without
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: a license, or when you're driving on a suspended license
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: and you're constantly looking over your shoulder hoping to not
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: get pulled over. Being a reality star the unfortunate part
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: of this genre is the fact that, unlike your scripted counterparts,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: the network doesn't pay for your glam, your wardrobe, none.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: Of that shit.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: You do it all out of pocket. When the DAYA
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: has a movie to promote, the.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: Studio pays for every single glam and stylist. Law Roach
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: is not getting paid out as India's pocket.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: The studio in which movie she's promoting.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: So when you see Tianna Taylor, for example, on this
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: press run for her Oscar nomination and going to Globe Win,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: I want all of you guys to know, Tiana Taylor
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: is not paying for these dresses. She's not paying for hair,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: she's not paying for makeup, she's not paying for the
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: black car. These the studios paying for that because they
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: want her to promote the film so that it can
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: get the nominations. So reality stars, stop trying to live
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: up to Zundia and Tianna Taylor and be.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: Okay with making the money you make and learning.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: How to use the reality show experience to to x
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: your opportunities and don't end up in these situations.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: I promise you it's not worth it.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 7: Stacey did that. Stacey wouldn't by no Turquoise, she said,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 7: I'm not rich. I'm not buying shit.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: Stacey thought that it was ugly too.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: It was too much for her.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: She was like, I'm not rich, I'm not buying nothing.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: I ain't how everybody goes on these and act like
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: it's so unrealistic to be, especially first year or two
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: on a reality show, to really go on there and
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: act like you have all this money and then you're
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: doing it a lot of time for each other and
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: for the fans, and the fans don't even have that
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: money like that a lot of them don't, with some do.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 5: But like you're like, it's a whole lifestyle, Like look
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 5: at these people that are they They are killing themselves financially,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: ranking clothes, doing scams, trying to like always look like
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: they got the latest thing, knowing you really can't. Like
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: it's okay to say, look, man, I don't have the
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 5: newest burkin.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 6: I don't have it. I have no burkins. They you
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 6: don't like, stop living for everybody else.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: Just be comfortable in your personality, that your personality is enough,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: not the shawl that you have from Fendi that you're like, shit,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 5: I really can't afford this.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: And you know who does it well? And I'll move
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: on be like Sympton Bailey. Symp There Bailey.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: I have never in the years I've worked Atlanta Housewives,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: I have never seen SymPy Bailey with a label.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: And she's one of the most beautiful women in.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: The world, and she has her own style, and and
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: no one looks at Cynthia and call her bad dresser.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: Now y'all call some other people bad dressers. We'll get
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: to that later. But then you said, what present.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 6: She gets up? But if she does get a label,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 6: she's smart about it. Like she she put us all
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 6: onto what's the store p J Max has?
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: Uh, they would have they had the high end brands
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: and have a super great sale, so you would go
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: in and you would get the stuff that is a
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 5: label much cheaper.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 6: So she's cool with that.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: And then she shares that tip with other women, which
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: I think is super deeper amazing.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: No, she's just she's if she gets it.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 5: She's not bragging. But I paid full price for this
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: stupid bag. I'm gonna say this, yeah, exactly.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 9: Oh, Symphy of money is long Riot long not to
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 9: cell her business because she said publicly what thing we
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 9: all know about off friends of her Cynthia would.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: Give you the close off her back, Yes she will. However,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: Cynthia is also frugal and baby. One thing about the
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: Bailey honey, she.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: Knows how to save her money and she knows how
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: to like not even be without her means because.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: Cynthia money is long. Hey Cynthia, But Cynthia does not
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: live us all of her means.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: And the beautiful thing about that is this woman was
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: a supermodel since she was sixteen years old and had
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: access to all the designers.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: And a couple of things to remember, because y'all know,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: I'm very protective of Cynthia Bailey. That's my friend in
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: real life, and I'm not gonna ain't it ain't happening
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: connected to her name on my watch in no way. Right,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: Cynthia is not living like a pauper. Right, Cynthia has
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: a beautiful home on a lake in Atlanta, gorgeous home.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: She drives a very nice vehicle, She has all the
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: physical things that she wants, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: She's just smart with her bread.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: So it's not like living within your means means that
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: you have to slum it essentially, right, you can live
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: and just work and increase what your means are and
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: then you'll be living that way, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: So I just I just think that her financial savvy
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: has really led to her sustainability.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: That's why I sent your Ben Bailey. You know what
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, It will always be Bailey. So that's it.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: Going going to the reunion, one of the topics of
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: discussion was.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: Stacy.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: You know, they congratulated Stacy on being featured in Fanity Fair.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Stacy for that. In addition to that,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: it was a big conversation of whether or not.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: Stacy is performative because the other ladies think she is.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: The other ladies think.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: She lies, not lies, she fakes her her boys, that
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: that's not who she is.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: Blue.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: Do you think these ladies are onto something that Stacy's
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: performative or do you think these ladies are just jealous
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: that Stacy is to break out star and they're trying
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: to find something to dim her life.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 7: I think they're all performing. She's just better at it.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 7: So what's the problem If you tried and I succeeded,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 7: what's the problem? Well, he love, That's what I think.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 7: This is a Stacey stand account, so we're gonna keep
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 7: it a buck. And I think Giselle's tone shift shows
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 7: the group chat to say, we gotta lay off of
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 7: Stacy before they all turn on us. Giselle made it
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 7: clear in the way that her voice is changed towards
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 7: Stacy that she's realizing that she's gonna lose the audience.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 7: Not too fucking sorry, not too much on Stacy. And
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 7: also Tia. Honestly, TIA's fall from Grace for me has
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 7: been stunning for me because I really was team Stacy
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 7: and team Tia. And Tia keeps being concerned about things
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 7: that have nothing to do with her because nothing has
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 7: anything to do with her, and that's part of her problem.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 7: Give you some business? Why did you Samuel's penis, did
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 7: you some business? You're not even involved? Damn miss anything.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: Friends, Claudia Dustin.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: How are you gonna complain about someone that's on an
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 5: entertainment a TV show for your entertainment. That's being performative.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: That's what's keep on the show going. Yeah, she is.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 5: She is being performed performative and it probably comes off
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 5: faith to them. It's probably annoying in real life, but
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 5: you are doing a TV show. You know, give it
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: work with someone that like kind of annoying, but they
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: kind of eat at their job.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 5: We've all been a cast you're like, hey man, but
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: those antics that are helping viewers come to the show
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 5: and keeping money in my pocket, so maybe shut up. Yeah,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: I mean it seems like they probably don't hang with
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 5: her in real life anyways, So let her be performative
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 5: during the four months that y'all work together, get your money,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: and yeah, I blew.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 6: You're right.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 5: She's great at it an angel and some of the
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 5: others t I like her too, can take them take a.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 6: Page from her from her notebook. Yeah, okay, because it's working.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 6: It's working.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 7: Take notes, stop taking jobs and take notes instead that part.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, justin Do.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: You agree with Andy Cohen when he gave Stacy the
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: morning that sometimes when the Housewives are gassed up by
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: the fan, it goes to their head.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: Do you think Stacy has that faith?
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: I do agree with what Andy said, And no, I
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: don't think Stacey has that fate at all. Because Stacey
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: is a Let's not forget that the Real Housewives, the
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: cast members on those shows, they're television personalities right by
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: by definition, her personality is what has moved her to
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: the front of the line. She's got a great personality
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: that once you understand it your first of when you
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: encounter her on television in that space, you're intrigued.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: You're like, what is going on on here? What's she about?
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: You want to know more? And once you see her
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: more and you become more attracted to her personality, it
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: just wins. I mean, you can't get mad at the
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: woman for winning and doing well at her job. To me,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: if you're on that show, you would love to have
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: a person like her be your cast member because that
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 4: ensures that the show is going to be successful, and
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: that's what you should want. You should want the show
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 4: to be full of dynamic personalities that all on contribute
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 4: to the pot continuing to boil on the stove. Okay,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: and so I don't know where this hating ass rhetoric
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: came from. Is she fake? Is she not fake?
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: Much like your girl, Johncelene said, Carlos, get with the
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: winning team, hole, that's what you're doing, you know what
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, And understand that what she's doing is good
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: for that show and that that show sustaining is good
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: for you.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 4: Stop hating. I'm trying to say her breath stinks.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: Stop trying to call her fake when really, when you
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: want to talk about fake and its Tya is the
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: one who literally in her confessional whatever episode that was
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: when she went to see Arabella and Timo at the
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: swim lesson for Arabella, right, Tia was talking about I'm
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: Sherlock Holmes and all this other shit. So you went
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: looking to be messy, and that's the difference. Stacey has
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: just been being herself whatever you want to call it,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: and navigating the waters of them throwing things at her constantly,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: and she's winning at it. Don't hate on that. Get
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: with the winning team. You see what Wendy did. Wendy said,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: she made that face. Angel said, she made.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 4: You get all that. I'm a roll with Stacy on
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: this one.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: Stop hating and let people when people are good, that's
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: good for what you're a part of. Stop be aspiring
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: your own right, not at the expense of being better
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: than somebody else. As soon as y'all let that competition
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: shit go, y'all motherfuckers will go a lot further.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 5: So I see you go to the super Bowl and
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 5: you're not the quarterback, but you got a good quarterback.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 6: You should be happy because you get a ring too.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, quarterback, the team is more than one player on
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: the team. The team needs everybody, not just a quarterback.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: So like or or or else, you know what, training
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: to be a motherfucking quarterback, and go for that position
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: when you join the damn team if that's what you want.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: But don't hate on the quarterback because they get it
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: to what they do.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's funny because listen, I like Tea on
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: the show. I will say.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: I don't say that. I appreciate.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: Her family is beautiful and I love hearing her talk.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: I love her accent, but boring brought nothing to the
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: show to me, I didn't see no connection really to
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: the other ladies.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: A bunch of ass.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: I think Tea started off good, but it went down
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: here down hill.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: Excuse me and listen. I'm with Stacey.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: Stacey said that Tia clocked in and gather information to
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: take it back to her master, being Gizelle.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: The Stacey ate Tia up.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: Hey, listen, Stacy, I'm not gonna say the word master,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: but listen, she definitely reports back to her boss which
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: is which is Gazelle and Stacey clocked it, and I
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: think Tia Tia lost me because I think this watching
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: the show, I think I think Tia was trying to
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: get to chummy with Gazelle and she didn't clock her
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: for that.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: And that's why I.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: Did enjoy when Wendy and Angel had their back and forth,
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: because Wendy addressed things that we saw with Angel, like
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: Gizelle called you cafish, But.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: When when when when Wendy said you.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: Did not go after Gizelle because you wanted her to
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: be your big sister, and Angel did not deny it.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 6: But we did down play because then they played.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 5: The clip back when Ashley brought the cat fish, she
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 5: put a lot of extra on it.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 6: Uh As brought the catfish.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, different, I did that, I get.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 5: But let's iact like she didn't put a little salt,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: little salt on it as well, That's what.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: I'm She's got to put salt on it. But I
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: think the problem was, you.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: Know, listen, we all was confused why Angel has so
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: much smoke from Winded not Giselle, And listen, we can
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: I've said this before.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: Everyone sees it.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: A lot of these girls want to be Grazil's friend.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: It is what it is, and that's fine. Speaking of
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: Angel and Angel's president, she did say that they purchased
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: a home in Potomac. Ashley tried to ask a question,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: and Angel told Ashley if she lived in Potomac area.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: She would know, which I thought, No, Blue, that give
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: me a an thump.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 7: Didn't you just get evicted from Airbnb and Potomac? How
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 7: quickly we forget somebody who got evicted from Potomac?
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 4: She did not get evicted.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 7: Sorry, who was displaced in Potomac?
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 6: Wait, that sounds like a hurricane victim displaced?
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 7: She was displaced twenty four hours to evacuate. Shout out
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 7: to Mia. So I'm just saying, maybe just read the
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 7: room a little bit, friend, that you just got into
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 7: the club, you just got in here. I'm not an
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 7: Ashley apologis, you know, I don't. I don't go for Ashley,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 7: but y'all gonna make me say something nice about that lady.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 7: I just think that Angel, much like Tiya, will just
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 7: go to whoever she thinks it's the weakest link. Tia
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 7: misidentified Stacy's the weakest link and ended up tussling with
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 7: America's fame awkward, huh, learn from that. I think now
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 7: that she realizes that she can't do anything to Weddy
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 7: because the forest whit of car eye that she keeps
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 7: doing and thinking it's gonna we're gonna laugh, We're not laughing.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 7: We didn't laugh into James L. Jones like, it's still
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 7: not funny, friends. And I like that Wendy said there's
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 7: more to that because there are some racial undertones in
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 7: that that are impossible to ignore. I like that Wendy
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 7: so showed her a little bit of grace by saying,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 7: this is more to that, but thank you for acknowledging
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 7: it and apologizing.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 7: I do think that she's now recognizing that Ashley is
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 7: lower on the totem pole, and so it actually has
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 7: now become the new victim. There's something weak, sauce that
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 7: you have smoke for whoever you think is below you.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 7: There's something weak about that. Universally to me, she hasn't
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 7: learned her lesson actually is the new victim.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 5: Now, and that Forrest Whittaker reed was so weak because
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 5: that his eye don't do that, his eyes don't go.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 6: One is open and one is half mad.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 7: Oh Claudia, I'm not sure.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 6: Oh it's true.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 5: One eyes like sleepy and they're like, Wendy, don't make
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 5: that face like it wasn't even a good read.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 6: It wasn't. I like accuracy in reading. It should be
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 6: like that.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: Didn't listen, I will talk. I won't give this Qualitia
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: love a read that has a truth.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 7: James ol Jones was very accurate, because now I can't
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 7: see it.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 6: Right, because that was that was fun shape.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: The thing about the Jake Jones for to be, I
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: thought it was fun Housewives shade on both ends. I
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: just thought, like like the I thought it was fun.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: I thought it was funny. I thought they both gave
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: a little.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 6: Dig said with a straight I like how when he
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 6: delivered it.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 5: She goes, Now, if I like when people do this
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 5: kind of shame, Yeah, well, if.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 6: I was to call you, James L. Jones, you just did.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 7: You just did.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 6: I like that kind of shade though.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 6: It's like, you know, I'm playing in your face on purpose.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 6: Right now?
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 7: Do we think that Gazelle has now a newfound respect
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 7: for because the one thing I would give Gazelle and
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 7: I don't give her much, is that Gazelle respects the
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 7: craft of being a provocateur for the sake of content.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 7: Do you think that now that Gazelle has panned back
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 7: from her minions to see how well Stacy's being received,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 7: that she'll extend the wobbly olive brands to Stacy that
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 7: she extended to Wendy, that she'll be like, Oh, I'm
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 7: gonna stop picking on you because you've earned your stripes.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 7: Do we think that's gonna happen next season?
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 6: Mm hmm, because it feels.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 7: Like if the audience likes somebody, she suddenly leaves them alone.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the playbooks.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: It's been the same repetitive playbook with everybody that's come
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: on to the show, just like how she's friendly with
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: Monique now after they went through some really tough times
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: on the show, because Gizelle knows that she has to
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: do and do that in order for the cast to
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: make sense and be cohesive. It just doesn't end well
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: when you refuse to fill with people and all that
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: other shit. So of course she don't go along to
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: get along as she should. That means she's being good
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: at her job.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: That's a house and I took that as what you
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: guys were saying earlier being the quarterback.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: I think Gazelle bath on what I've seen.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: I think Gazelle wants every girl to earn their flute,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: and I think she sees Stacy as a formidable opponent
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: and somebody who deserves to be on the stage.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: I do see that.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: One thing I wanted to ask you guys about if
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: you guys saw this, A lot of people on social
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: media were questioning Gizelle and Wendy.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: Gizelle's comment towards Wendy.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: You know, the questioning of the of the arrest, talking
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: about her wig being bad. Did you guys feel that
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: that Gizelle was being messy or inappropriate for the sort
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: of like statement she was making towards Wendy as Wendy
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: was talking about the arrest.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 5: It's kind of been like how she's been doing the
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 5: whole season, like she's just she's supposed.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 6: To stir it up. She liked. I guess she felt
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 6: she was lighting the mood.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 5: Yes, it was shady talking about her wig, but it's again,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 5: it's a reality show reunion, So I think she's doing
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 5: what she's paid for.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 6: She's doing she's paid She's not Gazelle's.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 5: Not gonna sit there and let a moment go by
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 5: what she can get one in and just be.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 6: Like, oh, it must have been tough for you. She's
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 6: gonna be like, let's talk about that wig was the wig?
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 6: She's paid to do.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 5: I think, you know, I don't think it's deeper than that.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 5: I think that's what she's just pay to do. She
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 5: she's gotten really good at it too. She's gotten really
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 5: she's not letting a mama go bye because she I
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 5: feel like more than anyone, she's like, you know, she's
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 5: the stakes of high. She wants to keep the show going.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 5: I would if I want to show where I you know,
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 5: I'm the.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 7: Star of the lead.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 5: Whatever I want to by all means necessary, any means
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 5: that's say we're keeping the show going. If I gotta
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 5: be shaded to you in a vulnerable moment because it's
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 5: making us talk about it, was.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 7: It shady to ask about who sold the house to
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 7: two old girl to Angel? Like they felt like shade
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 7: towards Tia when they were like, so, Angel, who did
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 7: TA sell you the house? And Ta's like, I didn't
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 7: come here to the houses, Georgia.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 5: I thought that was a great question because you acting
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 5: all tight like y'all buddy, buddy, you couldn't even throw
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 5: your girl a commission in an area that she's an
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 5: expert in and you went to someone else.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 6: I would have thought that.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 5: Was a great question, like, oh, y'all newfound bestie's now,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 5: but you didn't even use her as a realtor.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 6: Yes, I like that. I love that, quay, I liked that.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 7: That's felt like the real shape to me, like who, so,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 7: who sold you the house? Angel?
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 5: And then she just went to quickly apologize for her
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 5: like to make excuses.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 6: Well, I didn't come in for friends. I mean, I
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 6: didn't come in for that. I came in for friends.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 6: I'll be mad if you all know I'm the realtor
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 6: in the circle and you use anyone but me.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: Xpactly when I said about her house in Colorado.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah exactly.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 7: I wonder what Bobby thought.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: So at the end of the reunion is when Wendy
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: and Ashley had their spat, Andy read a question from
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: a viewer talking about Ashley was messy this season, talking
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: about how she even commented on Wingne's arrest. Wendy said
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: that Ashley has this personal vendetta against her, but she
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: didn't go to too many details on it. And then
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: Wendy made a dig saying that Ashley hasn't accomplished anything
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: in life, and then Ashley retorted, but at least I
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: have one social Security number now.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: Look.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: As a fan of reality television and a fan of
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: the girl's going at it, I thought that was.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: An amazing way of ending department reunion. I thought she
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: got a good one in.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: I talked about it the weekend, dusted the dragted for
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: on Twitter. I'm like it, listen, actually got one good
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: one in and I thought that was a good read.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: Towards the end, dust it, do you agree to agree?
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 4: His face, he's like, I think it was definitive.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 3: I felt like he drew a line in the sand
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: between her and Wendy because now you're insulting me based
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 3: on my court case shit that you know is really
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 3: really fucked up for me right now, you know what
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, And that's a low blow essentially, which I'm
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 3: not mad at. Take them take the low blows as
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 3: the housewives and y'all don't have to be friends nor
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: get along, so I'm fine with it, but I just
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 3: don't again, you know, I'm pretty quick on my feet,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: and I just saw a window of opportunity. As soon
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: as she said she only had one social Security number,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: there was a play. There was a way to call
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: back to that. I'll just put it like.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 7: That, what was it? I want to hear it.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 4: Figured it out on your own, out giving it away
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 4: for free. Figure it out on your own.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: Y'all want to pay me to come help y'all, I will,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: But other than that, I'm keeping it to myself.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: But just no, I'll text you later, Blue, But just.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 3: No, there's a way that you could have easily packed
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: actually up so quick right there.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 4: So then she brought up that social Security number and.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: I was like, damn, when y'all even trying, y'all just
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: letting them fly right by missing all this ship that's
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: literally being thrown right into your palm.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 7: So whatever, she confirmed Wendy's suspicions to me. I think
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 7: when Wendy says, I've heard that you had a vendetta
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 7: against me, and Ashley says, I don't have a vendetta.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 7: I just don't throw my accomplishments in people's faces. And
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 7: when they said, but you ain't got no accomplishments to
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 7: throw nobody's face. Oh, I sat up. I was like,
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 7: we could me stopching? So I'm thinking, oh, this is
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 7: a nice little spar let's see what happens, right, And
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 7: then Ashley said, well I only have security number. I said, well,
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 7: that was good, that was cute for you, And also
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 7: you just proved her point that, unlike Giselle, who's at
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 7: least trying to feign a little bit of friendship or care,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 7: you sincerely feel a way about this lady and her
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 7: husband and.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: Their eight degrees baby.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 7: Did the whole montage showing Ashley's hate in pictures right
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 7: shout out to the producers. So I do think that
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 7: Ashley feels a way about the fact that she is
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 7: disappearing into the frame, like she actually is becoming a
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 7: ghost in the machine.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 4: I don't think so, you think so.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 7: I think that Ashley is used to being an a character,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 7: and she's been a b character for a couple of
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 7: years now because Michael Darby is the best and worst
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 7: thing that ever happened to her, and now that he's
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 7: off somewhere allegedly grabbing things consensually, she doesn't have as
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 7: much of.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: A I actually agree I think, listen, this is it.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: I think Ashley is a necessary evil and no I'm
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: not calling her evil.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: I think I the challenge with Ashley is this.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: I think Ashley started off the show with Michael Darby
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: and Gables great content.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: She when when.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: Robin Dixon checked her at her Australian restaurant and Ashley
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: put t as took it and barked back. I do
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: think for the past I would say two to three seasons,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: Ashley definitely has fallen to the wayside. And I think
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: it's because Ashley has nothing else to do but to
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: be messy. And that's why when Candace hat Traders, when
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: Candace said you brought your ass here, I think she
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: said post part of Richard leaked breast to deliver a
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: nasty rumor about Eddie to Wendy, and then you went
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: back home. I think Ashley knew she had to be
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: a part of the mess to keep herself alive on
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: the show. But I will say this for them to
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: celebrate their ten seasons, I definitely think Ashley isn't who
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: she started out with the show to be m I
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: think something very strong, but I think Stacy so big
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: Wendy's you know.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, to be fair, they're not gonna be nasty though,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: like Ashley will. And so there is something to be
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 3: said for her contributing that villain role, you know what
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: I'm saying to the show, And if she leans into that,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: maybe there's some some sustainability there for her. Just be
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: the full villain. Fuck it, live in your villain era,
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Maybe that's what she should
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 3: do because no one else is really playing that role
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: on the show. Nobody's just like a sharp, edgy villain.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: So maybe she can do that.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 4: I think I think she's.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 6: Good for it.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 5: I mean, she's a little shit starter again, we can
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 5: they cannot be calm then Cynthia Bailey's on the show, right,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 5: you gotta have the firecrackers, the people that people are
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 5: annoyed with. Makes a good cast. They don't have to
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 5: all be likable people. I think she's necessary for the
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 5: show for what she does.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 6: She's stirring the park.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 5: And you gotta have some some ridiculousness on the show,
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 5: you know, or doing like it's something for us to
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 5: talk about what you really was really making out with
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 5: a friend's son what like in real life? I don't
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 5: want that my real life, but I definitely want that
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 5: in my reality shows that I watch I do, and
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 5: she she I think she ate with that comment, And
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 5: it wasn't just like you know, listen if someone diminishing
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 5: your entire existence and saying you've accomplished nothing that deserves
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 5: a personal clap back. I'm not mad at I think
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to part too next week.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 6: I want to see what I.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 7: Will let Angel talk next week week, because what was
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 7: that about?
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 4: Angel wasn't talking about Ship.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 7: But Kate asked, like she's still chin checking her, like
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 7: the chin checking has not left the room. Why did
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 7: you chin chucking.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 5: Like that?
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 3: When she said what is this? I don't think she
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 3: was telling Angel to shut up? I think she was
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: talking to Angel like why does she keep? Why is
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 3: she she? That was that was she was talking to
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: Angel as a friend at that moment, like what is this?
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 3: Like why is she still talking type ship? That was
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 3: her speaking to her like that, not saying.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 4: What is this?
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: Why are you talking over me? You hear me trying
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 3: to talk. That was her being like, girl, look at her,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: what is this?
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 7: But when Mandy said, let your friend answer my question,
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 7: we're actually having a good moment of clarity. Yeah, she said,
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 7: but I'm talking though, and Angel said, yes, her talk.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: Because director at Wendy that wasn't directed towards Angel and answer.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 3: That's why Angel was like, no, are you right, I'm
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 3: gonna go in this finish after she finished saying what
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: she has to say. That wasn't Keana being nasty with
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: Keana already has RBF. You know what I'm saying, So
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 3: she looks meaner than she is, which is but she
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 3: was talking to Angel like in the spirit of caaraderie,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: not telling her to shut up and let me talk.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 4: Like two people took it.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 3: It's easy to misinterpret it because there was a lot
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 3: going on and everybody was talking at the same time.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: But I watched it multiple times. She was not telling
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 3: Angel to be quiet.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 4: She was talking about tearing that.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 7: Up because at the moment I was just like, why
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 7: why does your RBF? Why is it so sharp? Angel?
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 7: And plus Angel plays victim. So when you have somebody
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 7: who talks like Ike Turner and somebody who asks like Pikachu,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 7: it immediately makes things for weird.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 4: Paints a picture. It paints a picture immediately.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: I won't say this I enjoyed the reu Yeah, I'm
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: looking forward to two more parts. But listen, I thought
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: it was a great comeback for Ashlete personally, think.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: The Only Tide.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 4: I thought it was too Don't make no mistake.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a perfect clad back from from
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 3: I just would have tore our ass up after that
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 3: if it was me.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 6: That's me cover from a gag. A gagging is what
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 6: Wendy told us.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 5: Basically, your life ancient to be able to be like
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 5: have something after that is that's that's that's good.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 6: It's good work. But now we're going to see next
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 6: week we're winning.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: You should you should dodge read you and Justin because
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: he does replaces over four times.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah read that.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 5: Only we knew a producer that could produce that shows
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 5: like I don't know if I if I knew someone
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 5: that maybe could put that together.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 4: Jnybody looking right now game.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 6: If only we knew one of the top producers, he said,
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 6: you're looking at the nigga right now.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 7: Damn, we would trying to be subtle everything they're talking
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 7: about big.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: I love you guys, leave you alone anyway.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 6: Carlos is mona h Scott right move got young then.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: You and your husband check your emails. Okay, so ray job.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: Let us know who you think did the best job
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: after reunion.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: All right, Rain John's love you all. Will see you
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: guys on next Monday.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 6: Bye bye bye.
• 1:51:36
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• 1:51:41
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• 1:51:44
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