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- 0:06You're listening to the West Carol Morning Show. Friday morning, ninth day
- 0:11of June. I'm West, Thanks for joining me. Busy weekend ahead,
- 0:17busy day, busy tomorrow. But the Georgia Republican Convention taking place here in
- 0:27Columbus. If you are one of our listeners in the Chattahoochee Valley area,
- 0:31you've heard performer President Trump will be in the House, so to speak,
- 0:36or at least in the in the city limits. Right, He'll be in
- 0:42the trade center speaking at the convention on Saturday. I believe two thirty is
- 0:48the scheduled time for his speech. And this evening Carry Lake scheduled to speak
- 0:56and Asa Hutchinson and former Vice President Mike Pence. Hutchinson, I guess in
- 1:02town. Pence will be doing his by video, but I'll be addressing so
- 1:07that convention taking place here this weekend, and a lot of buzz about the
- 1:14fact that the former president will be here in Colment and not just at the
- 1:18airport. You know, we get a lot of politicians that will do the
- 1:22airport. Pop ends don't actually have to leave the airport people come to them.
- 1:26Well, in this case, at least for some you know, Pence
- 1:30is doing the video thing, so a big weekend in the Chattahoochee Valley in
- 1:37that regard, and some folks already kind of dreading some of the traffic situations
- 1:42that will be a part of all of that. And other topic I want
- 1:47to talk about, and this is about conspiracy theories, because as you know,
- 1:53we've had a number of accusations of conspiracy theory over the past year two
- 2:01years that have slowly started to become less conspiracy theories and more factual. And
- 2:13now I want to address the fact that I don't I've never been one of
- 2:17those people. I think the conspiracy theory thing can be fun for some cases.
- 2:23I think when you start talking about big picture things, then it becomes
- 2:29less fun and less amusing. The main thing I want to talk about with
- 2:34it today is one that probably falls more in the fun side of things.
- 2:40Although dot dot dot, that's there's the way. I have to leave it
- 2:44for the moment, and I'll come back to it. But I understand that
- 2:47there's been a number of conspiracy theories that people have discussed over the years.
- 2:54I mean, there's there's Jimmy Hoffa stories, there's JFK stories, there's even
- 3:01you know, I think there's some Lincoln store. I mean it, there's
- 3:04a lot that's really there's really, you know, there's the connections to Lincoln
- 3:07and JFK. Maybe therese aren't conspiracy theory, but people used to say there
- 3:13was some kind of weird connection between those two because of those coincidences. But
- 3:17anyway, some of those conspiracy I think the moon landing one, the flat
- 3:23Earth thing, there's a lot of things that people it's some of it comes
- 3:30from just being I guess misguided. Some of it comes from wanting to believe
- 3:34whatever the story is. I don't know. I don't know why anybody would
- 3:37want to think that the Earth was flat. I don't understand that desire.
- 3:44But there's people that want to believe that. But then there's some that are
- 3:50And I think the JFK stuff a little more sinister. I mean, I
- 3:53think you start really going down the wormhole there for something that it's a lot
- 3:59more at steak from some of the accusations that go there. The people who
- 4:03said, you know, Ted Cruz's dad was involved in JFK, and I
- 4:08mean all that stuff starts to get really much more serious. Right the moon
- 4:15landing. It's a popular one where people said, oh, we didn't really
- 4:17go to the moon, that was all faked, that was done in a
- 4:19studio, done in the desert, and all that stuff. I mean,
- 4:26that one probably fits somewhere. I know, there's the people who say it
- 4:29was really important that America won the race to the Moon, and that was
- 4:32important, So to try to take that away from the people who did it
- 4:38makes it more serious. And I think you know, the people that have
- 4:41called people by mistake, people like buzz Aldren a liar to his face and
- 4:46got punched for it, and those sorts of things. I mean, that's
- 4:49when you start start challenging somebody's credibility and their honesty, and sometimes you've earned
- 4:56a punch in the nose. But that's probably the closest to the one that
- 5:02I'm going to talk about today. But just to remind you, we've had
- 5:09a few here lately that have kind of been debunked, right, some of
- 5:12the COVID stuff got debunked, some of the Twitter stuff got debunked. There's
- 5:19been a few things that people have been able to say, look, this
- 5:21is this was far more sinister. Okay, you start talking about some of
- 5:27the accusations against former President Trump debunked, right, being able to prove to
- 5:35have some evidence thanks to the Steel dossie, and it's you get to the
- 5:41situation where you start to say, well, wait a minute, this is
- 5:45what we were told and then it wasn't the reality, and people who challenged
- 5:48it were told that they were conspiracy theorists. I just talked about one this
- 5:53week. RFK Junior Gotta make sure to say he has laid out some accusations
- 6:03about COVID being a biological weapon, and people are saying, ah, and
- 6:08they've dismissed him for a while, saying he's a kook, he's a conspiracy
- 6:12theorist. He supports this notion that has been disproven time and time again,
- 6:18all those sorts of things. And as we get more evidence in some of
- 6:23these things like Twitter and the accusations against former President Trump and those sorts of
- 6:27things, then you start to debunk the conspiracy theorist. I don't expect there
- 6:32to be anybody debunking the flat earth thing anytime soon, though, right,
- 6:36I just I don't think we're gonna get that. And then you get the
- 6:41conspiracy theorists that say, you know, some of the real like QAnon stuff,
- 6:49you want to start saying that, you know, Tom Hanks and Steven
- 6:53Spielberg eat babies or whatever. That that sort of stuff, to me becomes
- 6:58much more of a you're bordering to me a lawsuit when people start making those
- 7:04kinds of accusations. All right, Well, there's another one that's been pretty
- 7:08popular over the years, and it certainly hasn't been debunked yet, but and
- 7:16we still have people screaming conspiracy theory even as some new information starts to become
- 7:21available. So let's talk about the new information that's come available. There's an
- 7:30Air Force veteran who highly decorated, highly reputable, and his name is David
- 7:41Charles Grush, and he has filed a whistleblower's claim where he says the US
- 7:53government and that in the course of his work knows for a fact that the
- 7:59US government has retrieved aircraft of a non human origin, a non Earth origin,
- 8:07even going to the point that and this is a quote he says,
- 8:11when naturally you recover something that's either landed or crashed, sometimes you encounter dead
- 8:16pilots and believe it or not as fantastical as it sounds. It's true.
- 8:22So this becomes much I know the headline has been Hey, he says,
- 8:28the US government has these non human origin vehicles of some kind that have made
- 8:37it to Earth, and the US government has retrieved them. And then he
- 8:41points out the fact that they would have encountered the pilots of those vehicles as
- 8:48well. Okay, and yes, you read between the lines here, pilots
- 8:54aliens okay, from outer space, from other places. That's what the accusation
- 9:00is. Now. All of this kind of stuff does sound like the stuff
- 9:03of conspiracy theorists. It's been levied and accused for years. People have said
- 9:09it. I don't know if anyone has said this. With the reputation that
- 9:18David Grush has, he is someone who deserves to be heard. And now
- 9:26the Pentagon denies it. However, the Oversight Committee chairman James Comer says,
- 9:39I've heard about it. I don't know anything about it. We plan on
- 9:43having a hearing, so that is the decision at this point moving forward.
- 9:52A spokesman for the Oversight Committee, Austin Hackers, said, in addition to
- 9:56recent claims by whistleblower reports continue to surface regarding identified anomalous phenomena. This is
- 10:03the term they use now for UFO. It's changed because UFO could mean I
- 10:07don't know a Chinese by balloon. That is not his quote. This is
- 10:11me elaborating. I'll get back to his quote. It was then unidentified area
- 10:16phenomena, but some of these things were actually going down into the water at
- 10:20times, so they decided to go with anomalous Back to his quote. The
- 10:24House Oversight Committee is following these UAP reports and is in the early stages of
- 10:31planning a hearing. Okay, quick footnote. Doctor Sean Kruzen from Columbus State
- 10:37University's Coca Cola Space Science Center and I do a podcast together called Made of
- 10:43Stars. We talk about what's going on in the world of space news.
- 10:46We talk about NASA, We talk about some of the commercial space companies and
- 10:54we discussed that, and we discussed big discoveries in space, big discoveries on
- 10:58Earth, about face. We talk about all those things. We do that
- 11:01show every Thursday. We did talk a little bit about this topic yesterday on
- 11:07the show. If you like to check it out there hear his thoughts on
- 11:09it. I'm not a scientist. Believe it or not, he is,
- 11:16so our conversation on it, we tried to keep it in the realm of
- 11:22science. I'm talking about it today with you on the topic of our government
- 11:28because as they plan to have a hearing, according to this expert, verifiable,
- 11:39reputable, whatever you want to call him, witness that the government has
- 11:46these things and they're not only just holding onto them. The accusation is that
- 11:50they're trying to study them and ultimately, you know, reverse engineer the technology,
- 12:00which is I'm sure what they would do. I can't imagine if a
- 12:07craft were discovered with no known origin on Earth that any would and wouldn't try
- 12:11to reverse engineer and figure out what makes it work, How do we replicate
- 12:16it, how can we use it, how can we mass produce it,
- 12:20what can we do with it? All of those things. But the government
- 12:26of course denies it. They say that there is nothing to see here.
- 12:33There's members of our government who have basically said, Nope, never seen it,
- 12:39don't know anything about it. We've heard the accusation, we've heard the
- 12:41whistleblower claim, but we don't know anything about it. Now there's been a
- 12:46growing number of cases of pilots, fighter pilots of commercial pilots that have seen
- 12:58things in the sky that they haven't been able to explain. Now, it's
- 13:01one thing to say that a commercial pilot maybe saw it didn't quite know what
- 13:09it was. It's another thing when it's a trained fighter pilot in a fighter
- 13:13jet whose job is to be able to identify any potential threat and when they
- 13:18see things and they report back. And it's been a number of these,
- 13:24we've already had hearings, they've already discussed this, and they're saying that without
- 13:28further evidence, they don't have anything to go on. Well, now this
- 13:33whistleblower this week has come forward and given them a little bit more to digest,
- 13:37giving them a little bit more to go on. It's no hard evidence.
- 13:43I mean, he's not dragged something off of a craft, you know,
- 13:46Allah Will Smith an Independence Day, Welcome to Earth. He hasn't done
- 13:50that. But he's given them a little bit more to go on, and
- 13:54it's pushed it again out into the headlines and into the various national news agencies,
- 14:03local news channels talking about it because it's a big deal. So is
- 14:07this potentially another one of those conspiracy theories? That might actually have some teeth
- 14:13to it. One of the main things you need in a conspiracy theory is
- 14:18it has to sound like it's kind of believable. So if the government for
- 14:24years has been collecting these craft and trying to reverse engineer them, it's feasible
- 14:28doesn't mean it's true. Means it's sounds like it makes sense. There's a
- 14:35lot of things that sound like they make sense. The whole concept of recycling
- 14:41sounds like it makes sense when they tell you this is what we're going to
- 14:45do with it. Who knows what happens with it. I don't know.
- 14:48I don't know where it goes. You put it in the blue ben,
- 14:48I don't know what happens after that. A truck picks it up. That's
- 14:52all I know. Sounds good. I don't know where it goes. I
- 14:56know people who don't think it goes to any recycling place. But I digress.
- 15:03There's things that sound like they make sense. When people say I look
- 15:07out at the earth and it looks flat to me off in the distance,
- 15:11that's what their eyes tell them. It seems like it makes sense to them.
- 15:15There's flat, even when there's evidence to support otherwise. If they've ever
- 15:20been in a plane and looked and they go, there's a curve there.
- 15:24Now it's flat on the ground, there's a curve in the sky. I
- 15:28don't know what their explanation for that is, but the point is it's got
- 15:31a sound like it's possible, and it certainly sounds like it's possible. The
- 15:37real thing here comes when you got various pilots that say fighter pilots, former
- 15:46Navy pilots, or air Force pots to say, yeah, we've seen these
- 15:50weird things in the sky. There's something there. They're doing things that regular
- 15:54aircraft can't do. That's not enough evidence to say it's definitely from another world.
- 16:00But having this whistleblower again with some credibility, now, well they try
- 16:04to shoot his credibility down. Of course they will. The people who don't
- 16:07want this to be true will do that. I can't tell you one way
- 16:11or the other. I can tell you that as someone who is a member
- 16:15of space media that it's a fascinating story, and it is a developing story.
- 16:23It's a story in progress. But it's the first time that I've heard
- 16:27a story like this and I thought, oh, maybe there's something to this.
- 16:33Doesn't mean there is, but it's the first time I've heard it and
- 16:37said, this sounds more credible than any of the other stories from the past.
- 16:45I think those fighter pilots who have come forward over the years certainly deserve
- 16:49to be heard, and I certainly think there's some credibility or a lot of
- 16:52credibility with them. What do they stand to gain from it? Maybe a
- 16:57quick interview on TV or I don't know, I don't know what they do.
- 17:03They want to write a book about their one time they were up and
- 17:07they saw something moving around in this I don't know. I don't know what
- 17:08you could say to try to discredit them. But when there's multiple pilots who've
- 17:15seen something and now we've got this guy who seemingly is credible, reputable,
- 17:25all the things that you want, and a whistleblower complaint, is there something
- 17:30to it? I don't know. I don't know, but it is a
- 17:34story that's in progress and it will be interesting to see where it goes from
- 17:38here. It's one of those stories that people who don't normally care about certain
- 17:44elements of the news. There's some people who don't watch the news, they'll
- 17:47pay attention to this story There's some people who don't pay much attention to what's
- 17:51going on in space or with NASA, they'll pay attention to this story.
- 17:56This isn't they don't care about what's going on in oversight commit at East,
- 18:00they might pay attention to this one. They might be interested. Maybe they
- 18:03don't care what's going on with Trump and Hunter Biden's laptop and all those things.
- 18:07But this is something that some people will at least check into it that
- 18:15wouldn't normally check into these sorts of things. There's some teeth to the story.
- 18:21Is it for clicks? Maybe? I don't think it's for clicks.
- 18:25When it comes to the whistleblower, he's already faced a lot of backlash.
- 18:29He puts himself out there by being a whistleblower. But David Grush coming forward,
- 18:36it's an interesting development, and we'll follow it, Sean and I will
- 18:41follow it on Native Stars certainly over the coming months, but I'll be following
- 18:45along with it right here on this show. And it's just an interesting thing,
- 18:52an interesting development, an interesting progression in something that seems like it was
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- 22:41Well, if you're looking for things for your kids to do over the
- 22:44summer, how about having them do some volunteering. According to a new study
- 22:48from the University of Houston says kids and teams who volunteer are more likely to
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- 23:49do over the summer. Our kids will be doing some volunteering this summer,
- 23:52and that's already scheduled even before this study. Do you sleep with a stuffed
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- 25:45both a shot. Why not. That'll do it for this Friday edition of
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