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Ranting with Sticky Goose... F*ck Them All! Ep #21 · Ultimate Rewinds Podcast

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  So, now that we're talking about comics,
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  we we've kind of jumped over to that
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  space that we're both in. I know how you
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  got back into comics. I think you've
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  covered it on your channel a bunch, but
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  I want to talk about like through the
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  whole thing with, you know, cracking out
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  your slabs, making everything raw, which
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  is cool because I got to be honest with
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  you, I did that years ago. Like, and I
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  obviously I still have slabs, but like
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  every time I would buy a book that was a
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  slab, I would croc it out and keep it
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  raw. have just become that type of
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  collector. But what kind of went through
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  your mind when you were when you're
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  doing that? Did you worry about like
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  price at all about you know what I don't
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  think it would be harder to sell knowing
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  what I know and being a comic collector
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  because I think a lot of people want raw
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  books but do you ever think to yourself
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  you know what is this the greatest idea
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  knowing if I ever want to sell this
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  stuff it may be you know a little bit
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  harder on myself to sell or no?
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  >> Yeah there was there was a lot that was
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  going through my head. Um, I uh
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  I I wanted to just purge um
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  I I wanted to restart I wanted to
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  restart myself in this whole collecting
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  thing. And CGC
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  was there from the very [ __ ] start
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  with me. And my whole collecting journey
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  started with that [ __ ] [ __ ] And um I
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  I get mad about it because I feel I feel
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  influenced. I feel hoodwinkedked. I feel
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  something like I felt like
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  it should have given me more than it
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  did. And then and then when I tried to
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  sell that some of that [ __ ]
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  >> and I put those slabs up for sale and
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  nobody cared, it was like it dawned on
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  me I was I was tricked. And um you know
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  obviously the stuff I was selling I mean
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  it's not like golden age stuff everybody
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  would want. It was it was just the 9.6s
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  the 9.4s
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  and it's like nobody wants it. Nobody
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  cares. The slab people came and the slab
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  people went. They're gone. The slab
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  people are gone. They're Pokemon.
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  They're Pokemon now.
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  >> You're right. You're right. And the the
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  slabs
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  the slabs chased away so many potential
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  true new true like people that could be
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  fans of comics and it pissed me off and
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  I wanted to be done. I didn't care about
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  the money. I I I like I mean I'm
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  cracking out my ASM14 first Green
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  Goblin. I'm cracking out uh ASM300 9.6.
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  I'm throwing $10,000
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  out the [ __ ] door in submission fees.
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  Like, I I don't I want I This is the
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  first time I'm ever looking at these
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  books. I'm smelling them. I'm holding
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  them. You know, I'm paging through them.
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  I do. I actually have what I actually
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  have. Did I get, you know,
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  hoodwinkedked? Dude, who are these
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  people that are freaking doing this
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  scam? It was just like, what what the
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  are my are my comics actually my comics?
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  And you know, it was very nice to go
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  through that. Um, but yeah, it no, I the
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  money,
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  yeah, I was throwing a lot of [ __ ]
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  money out out the door. And um, I'm in a
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  totally different
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  financial headspace now than I was four
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  years ago. I mean, I had a really,
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  really good job four years ago. I was
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  working my ass off. And I mean, the
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  money that I was putting into this [ __ ]
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  it was I deserve to have lost what I did
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  because it was it was irresponsible what
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  I was doing because I was just sending
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  books down there, buying [ __ ] But, you
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  know, I I was the prey. I I was the
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  prey. I was the easy money. I was the
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  the millennial uh professional that they
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  were praying on that these dealers that
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  these these [ __ ] main aisle people at
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  these ComicCons that was who they were
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  waiting on for me to roll through there
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  and man I I see them and they're still
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  getting [ __ ] people. I hear them. I
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  hear it when I'm going to these cons. It
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  just I All of that is with CGC. It's all
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  the slabs. I go I I I see these dealers
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  at Heroes Con. It's just a wall of
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  slabs. And I was just like, "Bro,
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  what the [ __ ] are you? You you are you
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  are a trading card flipper. You that's
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  that's what you are." And I I'm trying
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  I'm I obviously you could tell I'm salty
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  because I just lost I lost so much. But
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  I still love comics. I love to read.
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  I've been I was reading today like um um
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  and I and I tied it all in together. I I
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  made it,
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  >> you know, the the YouTube hate,
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  >> the CGC losing the money,
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  >> it made me feel like I wanted to hate
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  everything I had, but I
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  >> I I realized that I actually do like
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  this stuff. And um cracking those slabs
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  out was one of the best things I ever
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  did.
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  >> You speak a lot of truths here. And like
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  a lot of people who normally would admit
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  to something like that, I think they've
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  been through kind of the same thing that
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  you've gone through. And I myself have
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  done the same thing. And that's why I
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  kind of stopped slabbing books a while
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  ago is because when when it when you
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  used to be able to send in your book for
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  like $50 and it was a high value book, I
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  thought it was okay. You know what? That
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  to me makes it worth it. Like the cost
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  to grade a book wasn't that bad for what
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  the book was depending on the book you
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  were sending in. But when it got to a
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  point where I noticed that when people
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  would go to a show or even at my LCS
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  that the slabs were not selling and they
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  were sitting on the wall and everybody
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  was only asking for RAWs.
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  >> Even now, you know, Instagram live
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  sales, people, you know, they'll show
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  the this the slabs for a bit and they
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  say, "Let's focus on the RAWs because
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  that's where people are actually
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  spending the money." And it's just like,
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  you know what, something's going on.
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  like and I think a lot of people like
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  you one they got fed up with the whole
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  9.6 9.4 because at the end of the day
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  when whether anybody wants to admit this
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  or not if you're sending a copper age
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  book or a a modern book everybody's
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  looking for a 9.8 for the most part
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  that's what they want to buy because
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  they're still relatively affordable and
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  you get those 9.4s and the 9.6s and they
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  almost become I don't want they're not
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  worthless don't get me wrong but they're
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  like to certain collectors they're
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  basically worthless right?
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  >> Yeah. So, I think that's how how CGC and
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  some of these, you know, grading
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  companies, that's how they got people to
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  say, "All right, let's submit this book.
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  Let's see if we can get that grade." But
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  if it's not that great, you spend all
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  the money grading the book, and now all
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  of a sudden you spent all the money on
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  this book that's not really worth as
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  much as you thought because nobody
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  really wants it, right?
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  >> Yes. Yeah. And and you you don't
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  appreciate what you have anymore. Like
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  you look at that 9.6 and there's that.
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  And I don't care who you are. If you
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  have something and you you know that
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  it's not that other people tell you it's
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  not important or it's not valuable or
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  it's not a thing, dude, you have a near
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  mint copy of a book. Some idiot in
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  Sarasota, Florida that said that your
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  book's not worthy of a 9.8 is going to
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  cheapen your experience with that. I
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  said, "Fuck this. I'm not letting this
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  dude. I I sold so many 9.6s. I wish I
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  had those back because then I could have
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  had near mint copies in my collection. P
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  I've got to piece that back together.
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  It's one of the biggest lies. And but
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  the thing is with the RAWs, dude, and
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  why they sell is because they're hitting
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  two different groups. They're hitting
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  the real collectors that really want the
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  RAWs, and they're hitting the flippers
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  who are wanting to get those slabbed.
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  And and it's it it that's both of them
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  because they're trying to get a raw to
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  get a deal because it's it's this
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  vicious cycle
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  >> because once it's slabbed,
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  >> it's peak it's peak money. There's no
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  more money
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  >> and and um I don't I don't I can't I
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  don't know why it took me so [ __ ]
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  long to realize that. Um it once
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  >> it happens, man. And it's just like
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  everybody's going to go through the
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  experience. Like every every collector
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  who's been in it for for long enough,
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  they're going to they're going to
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  realize something's up or they're going
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  to make a mistake or they're going to
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  lose money. I lost money on a golden age
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  book. It's just I hate to say it, but
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  it's part of the collecting world where
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  you do have people who are going to take
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  advantage of you whether it even be the
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  people who are, you know, the companies
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  out there are supposed to be helping us
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  or, you know, just a dealer or another
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  collector. It's just
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  >> the collecting space. You heard about
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  all the stuff with the the card grading
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  stuff now, how all the signatures are
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  fake. I don't know if you heard about
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  that.
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  >> No.
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  >> Oh my god. There's there's a big scandal
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  going out in the card space. How like a
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  lot of like over $300 million worth of
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  cards that were signed were were fake
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  signatures. Just crazy to hear.
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  >> That's my one of my biggest gripes with
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  this hobby is is just how predatory
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  there's there's prey and there's
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  predators and it's hot potato. Who who's
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  left with the [ __ ] at the end? And you
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  know, it's not that this hobby is
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  there's other hobbies that do that, but
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  I don't I never felt that way collecting
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  like retro games because like I bought
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  the game, I played the game, I put the
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  game on the shelf, like that was the
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  thing. But but the this comics game,
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  this is something else. and uh
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  specifically like the actual collecting
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  like with vintage comics and stuff like
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  this is a whole another game and I don't
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  love it to be honest. I don't I I really
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  like if I could turn back time I would
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  never have done this [ __ ] ever.
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  >> Um I would I I would have bought
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  Omnibus. I would have bought the trade
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  paperbacks. I would have read the
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  stories. I would have bought more manga
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  stories like and enjoyed myself and
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  spent thousands on that and had a blast.
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  [music]
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  Do you think now I I know obviously you
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  sold some stuff off. If you just
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  downsize to the only the things that you
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  thought was sentimental to you and let
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  everything else go, would you be a
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  little bit better now? If I could sell
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  everything, if I could sell everything
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  tonight, I would if I could get my money
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  back.
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  >> I was going to say for me, like I
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  downsized a lot. I I probably sold off
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  twothirds of my collection. Only kept
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  the books that I think were sentimental
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  to me growing up as a kid and now the
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  books that I want to own. But um and I
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  took losses. I'm not going to lie to
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  you. Like I got in I got in like at a
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  certain point where I made money on
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  certain books and then I got out in some
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  where I lost some money on some books.
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  So overall I'm probably about even. But
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  at the same time like it depends on the
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  loss but sometimes taking a loss is the
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  best thing you could do especially for
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  your mind.
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  >> Yeah it it definitely you learn a lot
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  but uh with this YouTube game this has
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  been my diary. I have explained my
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  this is my content. This is like who I
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  am like explaining my bumps and my
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  lumps. And then what it's become is
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  everybody points their fingers. You
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  [ __ ] idiot. you loser. Everybody
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  could have told you that. It's it's it's
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  that blame. But see, all of it's
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  associated.
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  See, that's the problem, Lawrence. Like,
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  this whole game is it's different for me
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  because you your collecting journey
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  hasn't started and stopped with your
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  YouTube career. Like, it has developed
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  independently. Like, this has all been
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  tied together for me. So, you know, I
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  feel more pain than just the financial
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  because I I mean, I don't want to feel
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  like an idiot. I don't want to feel like
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  I've made poor financial decisions when
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  I know I obviously have. Um I if I could
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  if I if I could take a reasonable loss,
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  sell everything, try to reinvest that
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  money in something that, you know, is a
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  5% 6% just a a modest type of gain and
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  then buy back the things that I want
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  that I would do that in a heartbeat. Um
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  but I'm too I'm too far in. I'm too deep
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  in and the longer I keep the [ __ ] the
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  more I grow attached to it. I got you.
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  Listen, my dad says something to me when
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  I was, you know, a probably a young
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  adult and he said, "Everybody's going to
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  make mistakes. It's how you recover from
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  those mistakes." And I think for me
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  personally, I've lost money, not just in
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  comics, but in other aspects of my life.
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  And I think just doing what you said and
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  just cutting my losses, taking that
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  money and putting it something that I
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  know is going to grow me. Even if you
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  said that 5%, 10% a year, whatever it
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  is, you will feel better about the whole
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  situation. And then maybe like you said,
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  you go back and buy things that you
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  remember as a kid that you want. But
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  that's for a whole another story. But it
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  still could happen, dude. I'm telling
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  you.
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  >> Yeah. I uh it it I have a weird
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  relationship with money. Probably not
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  necessarily. Uh I
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  I feel like I go through a lot to make
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  the money that I do. And it hurts um to
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  really lose. And um the the older I get,
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  see, man, just even five years ago, just
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  the way I was spinning, bro. I mean, I
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  was spinning it. And it's just the older
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  I get, I just realize everything could
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  go. Like, you know, with me being a
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  dentist, like I lose I lose the ability
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  to use my hands. It's over.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> You know, I lose the ability to uh use
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  my legs because I can't operate the foot
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  pedal. Like, it's over. like I'm so
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  fragile and my earning potential
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  is so scary and it it frustrates me
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  because
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  you know I look back and I'm like I mean
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  how much wealthier could I have been if
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  I hadn't have done this stuff now
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  obviously the YouTube thing wouldn't
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  have happened um but this is
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  insignificant money and um you know the
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  nerd stuff the h the hobby stuff you
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  know that was that was for me. Like it
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  was it it was special for me and it was
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  it was it was modest and it was
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  controllable. But then you start making
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  $4,000 purchases, $10,000 in CGC
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  submissions,
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  thousands and thousands of dollars going
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  out. I'm like, this is a problem. This
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  is not good.
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  So, there's two things that you said
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  there I want to touch on because I know
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  one we talked about a little bit about
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  beforehand about our our professions
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  because you obviously people know you're
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  a dentist and you're in healthcare and
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  I'm in healthcare which maybe not a lot
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  of people know that but I'll reveal it
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  right now. I am a pharmacist even though
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  I don't I work in a retail setting my
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  whole life. I worked in a hospital a
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  little bit and I wanted to ask you being
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  on that healthcare side and you can you
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  know if you want to answer something if
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  you don't want to answer something I
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  totally get it because it's our personal
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  lives but how tough is it dealing with
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  people in the healthcare sector and I'm
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  not talking about the people you work
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  with but like patients stuff like that.
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  >> Yeah. I mean it's we you and I are in a
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  customer service industry but we're
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  dealing with people's lives. We're
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  dealing with people's health. We're
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  dealing with people's smile. We're
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  dealing with the the medicines they're
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  ingesting into their body. And the toll
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  that it takes on health care providers
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  is is it's it's a hidden thing. People
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  associate pharmacists, they associate
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  dentist, eh rich [ __ ] you know, they're
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  taking they're taking the money and
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  they're running. But the sacrifices that
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  we have made, the the sacrifices that we
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  make daily putting to do this, it it
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  it's hard. The money we make, we [ __ ]
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  deserve it. And um it hurts when it
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  hurts more because that's the thing like
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  people think that it's easy money like
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  or the money comes in fast and it's just
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  it's not like that, dude. Dude, the
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  health the anything healthcare right now
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  is just [ __ ] awful. I mean, I I would
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  come out and say it because I don't care
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  anymore because I I've been doing this
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  what I do for 25 years. And I have just
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  I'm at my wits end. Um people have
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  gotten worse. Um the health care system
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  has gotten worse. Reimbursements for
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  your services have gotten worse. Uh
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  being on the pharmacy aspect of it, like
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  people getting medications, you know,
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  it's hard to get them because the costs
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  are through the roof. Um, you know, I
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  myself being, you know, working for
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  where I work now, like it's very hard to
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  even keep the doors open because, you
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  know, we're losing money. But it's just
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  what I've had to deal with over 25
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  years, which I'm sure you've had to deal
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  with over your career, is just insanity.
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  Like, I've had people take shits on the
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  floor at the store, people just walking
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  around, taking a [ __ ] and just [ __ ]
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  leaving. I'm talking about right on the
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  floor like in the middle of a like a CVS
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  if you work for CVS like and just
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  walking out the door and not saying a
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  word like just in in insane stuff like
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  that that that doesn't even affect my my
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  day but it's just like it's just gotten
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  so bad I don't even know uh it's just me
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  venting a little bit but I'm sure it's
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  maybe not as bad like that but just as
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  bad for you.
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  >> Yeah, it's just uh people don't
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  prioritize their health. They they spend
• 17:41
  money. See, and that's that's the thing.
• 17:43
  It's just I see how foolishly people
• 17:46
  spend their money as opposed to taking
• 17:48
  care of themselves and it just makes me
• 17:51
  sad. Um, and you know, the hobby thing,
• 17:55
  it it's supposed to take me away from
• 17:57
  all of this. And you know, it does. Um,
• 18:01
  but when we got this kind of money
• 18:03
  wrapped up in [ __ ] it's kind of hard
• 18:05
  not to
• 18:07
  kind of feel a little bit more than just
• 18:09
  a hobby. It's, you know, it's an
• 18:11
  investment. I mean, it's a that's a
• 18:14
  dirty word. That's a no no word, but it
• 18:16
  it it is. I mean, when you're spending a
• 18:18
  thousand bucks on something,
• 18:20
  I mean, that's not I mean, thousand
• 18:22
  bucks is Dude, $100 is still a lot to
• 18:24
  me.
• 18:27
  >> What made you want to start a channel?
• 18:28
  We'll start from the beginning.
• 18:30
  >> Okay. Yeah. So, there was a channel in
• 18:33
  when I was in dental school. Uh this was
• 18:36
  2012. There was a channel called Kind of
• 18:38
  Funny. It was run by two guys, uh, Greg
• 18:42
  Miller, Colin Morardi. They're video
• 18:44
  games journalists that work for IGN.
• 18:47
  They left that website and they branched
• 18:50
  off. They made their own YouTube. I
• 18:52
  started watching them. See, I wasn't
• 18:54
  like a YouTube people like person. Like
• 18:57
  some of these people have lived on
• 18:59
  YouTube for their whole existence.
• 19:02
  >> Like I wasn't that cuz I didn't have
• 19:04
  time for this [ __ ] when when I was in
• 19:06
  dental school, I watched that stuff and
• 19:10
  I developed like a connection with them.
• 19:12
  Like I felt like they were my friends
• 19:15
  and um I mean I was watching their
• 19:17
  content religiously, but then I just
• 19:19
  realized they're just shooting the [ __ ]
• 19:20
  like you and I are now. like we made it.
• 19:23
  Like you and I are make are having a
• 19:26
  conversation
• 19:28
  for fun and we're putting it on the
• 19:30
  internet and we're monetizing it and
• 19:32
  people want to watch it and we're
• 19:34
  getting paid to do this. We we made it.
• 19:37
  I wanted to do that and I glamorized it
• 19:41
  because, you know, I'm suffering
• 19:44
  studying. I'm like, you know, cutting
• 19:46
  open dead bodies. Like I I'm smelling
• 19:49
  from alahhide. I'm like, this [ __ ]
• 19:50
  [ __ ] sucks. these idiots are waking
• 19:53
  up at noon playing video games. And I
• 19:56
  was like, "Bro, I want to I want to do
• 19:59
  that." And you know, I when I first
• 20:01
  started YouTube, I was trying to find a
• 20:04
  lane. Uh my first video was my Batman uh
• 20:08
  Dark Knight, the Master Race uh statue,
• 20:12
  the Frank Miller inspired statue. And I
• 20:14
  I wanted to come out like I want if I
• 20:16
  wanted to do this, I wanted to have
• 20:18
  something impressive because I thought
• 20:19
  that YouTube was about what you had.
• 20:23
  Like it was about um you know the stuff
• 20:26
  the stuff got the people
• 20:28
  >> because I I I mean I knew I had a good
• 20:31
  personality. Like not a good
• 20:32
  personality. I knew I had enough
• 20:33
  personality to do something.
• 20:38
  >> I wasn't a
• 20:38
  >> Huh?
• 20:39
  >> Charisma.
• 20:40
  >> Yes. Charisma. Like I wasn't afraid to
• 20:42
  do this. like I mean I can talk to this
• 20:44
  camera. I feel I I don't feel scared
• 20:47
  right now. So, you know, it was like I
• 20:50
  watched those guys and I was like I
• 20:52
  could do that. And when I found my dad's
• 20:56
  when when me and my dad found the comic
• 20:58
  book collection and I was like, "Holy
• 21:01
  [ __ ] let me share this." It was like
• 21:04
  this this comic book YouTube community.
• 21:07
  It was like they embraced me with open
• 21:10
  arms. I was like, "Holy [ __ ] this is my
• 21:12
  community." like this is a community
• 21:14
  that that I could build build on. Like
• 21:18
  these are people that are passionate.
• 21:20
  They're wanting to watch. They they
• 21:22
  anytime I post comic book stuff, they
• 21:24
  watch. You know, it was like that was I
• 21:28
  was like there here's my lane. And um I
• 21:33
  we talked about this off air, but it you
• 21:36
  know I want my goal with this is to be
• 21:40
  somebody that I can sit on this mic and
• 21:43
  I think it is for you too where it's
• 21:45
  like I I want to be able to talk about
• 21:47
  whatever and people will be with me.
• 21:51
  They'll they'll they'll stay with me. It
• 21:53
  doesn't have to be a lane. And because
• 21:56
  you know you and I have very very
• 21:58
  similar passions and that's why I'd like
• 22:00
  your channel because you talk about the
• 22:02
  stuff I like but it you know it's I
• 22:05
  wanted to be like a personality if that
• 22:07
  makes sense.
• 22:08
  >> Absolutely. I think you know similar to
• 22:12
  me like when I first started doing this
• 22:14
  it was like more about all right I was
• 22:15
  just kind of chronologic what's the word
• 22:19
  chronicling my journey in you know
• 22:21
  getting back into collecting and all of
• 22:22
  a sudden like I wanted to do better I
• 22:24
  wanted to do more. I'm like, you know, I
• 22:25
  could be better than what I'm doing now.
• 22:27
  And then I started putting more work
• 22:28
  into it, trying to be more entertaining,
• 22:29
  blah blah blah. And I've always been a
• 22:31
  very artistic person, so I always
• 22:33
  thought I could come across and have a
• 22:34
  conversation and do whatever. But, you
• 22:36
  know, your channel evolves in a certain
• 22:38
  way. And then you kind of say, you know
• 22:39
  what, this is kind of what I want to do.
• 22:40
  And like you said, I love just sitting
• 22:43
  on here and just having a conversation.
• 22:44
  So that's what made me want to start the
• 22:46
  podcast. So, I totally understand what
• 22:47
  you're saying because I feel like this
• 22:49
  is the most entertainment that people
• 22:51
  like us are going to get. Just kind of
• 22:53
  hearing our stories, thinking what's
• 22:55
  going through our mind and not just
• 22:56
  showing books and talking about books or
• 22:59
  we're talking about certain things, but
• 23:00
  bringing them, you know, our passions in
• 23:02
  life.
• 23:03
  >> Yeah. And I I I wish it was that way,
• 23:05
  but I think what people want a lot of
• 23:08
  time is something that benefits them.
• 23:11
  like how can I how can they make money
• 23:14
  or what should I not do or where should
• 23:18
  I go to get this should I get this like
• 23:23
  um I think that that can't be
• 23:25
  underestimated because I look back and
• 23:27
  I'm like okay what did I want from kind
• 23:29
  of funny well I wanted friendship in a
• 23:32
  sense of companionship of like feeling
• 23:34
  like I'm part of their community but I
• 23:37
  also wanted them to tell me what video
• 23:40
  games to buy. Like, is this worth my
• 23:43
  time? That's where the influencer thing
• 23:45
  comes in. And um I I mean, I never
• 23:49
  wanted to be an influencer. That wasn't
• 23:52
  it wasn't my goal. Like, I didn't want
• 23:54
  to be the person that like, okay, this
• 23:58
  is this is what you should buy. But I
• 24:01
  say that, but then I look back at my
• 24:03
  videos and I'm like, okay, well, I'm
• 24:04
  showing the secret lab chair. I'm
• 24:06
  showing this. And I'm I'm pro it's like
• 24:09
  products but I don't I didn't want to be
• 24:12
  an influencer in that regard. I wanted
• 24:14
  to be um
• 24:18
  I say famous but it it you know I wanted
• 24:20
  to have reputation of like people
• 24:24
  clicking my video because they wanted to
• 24:25
  hear from me regardless of what I had to
• 24:27
  say.
• 24:33
  >> [music]
• 24:34
  >> I think the greatest entertainers, no
• 24:36
  matter what you put out there, if you
• 24:38
  have a following and and I'm not going
• 24:40
  to I'm not going to lie, for a while
• 24:42
  there, no matter what you put out,
• 24:44
  people had to click on that video
• 24:45
  because they didn't know what you were
• 24:46
  going to say. And that I think that was
• 24:47
  part of it because that's what I don't
• 24:50
  want to say that's what kind of put you
• 24:51
  on the map for me because before you
• 24:54
  started kind of doing that stuff, I
• 24:55
  didn't YouTube didn't re recommend a lot
• 24:57
  of your channels or a lot of your stuff.
• 24:59
  I didn't really know who you were. You
• 25:00
  know what? Regardless of what people
• 25:02
  think, if you're willing to put yourself
• 25:04
  out there
• 25:05
  >> and your video becomes mustwatch, that's
• 25:09
  kind of what we're looking for. Take
• 25:10
  take a point like back in the day, I
• 25:12
  don't know if you're going to remember
• 25:12
  this, like Howard Stern back in the day
• 25:14
  on his mediocre rise, all the outlandish
• 25:16
  [ __ ] he was saying that got him to where
• 25:18
  he was. So like,
• 25:19
  >> yeah,
• 25:20
  >> it's just if you become mustwatch, I
• 25:22
  don't care what you're putting out
• 25:22
  there. That's every I think
• 25:24
  entertainer's goal.
• 25:25
  >> Yeah. Vulnerability. And if you look at
• 25:28
  big YouTubers and you look at people
• 25:30
  that have developed in this space, they
• 25:33
  had that one video or they had something
• 25:36
  like where it it it stuck and it gain
• 25:39
  got that traction and and it is luck but
• 25:43
  you can make your own luck. I mean I if
• 25:46
  you are willing to do something crazy or
• 25:49
  be very vulnerable because you you'll
• 25:52
  see a video come across like um like I I
• 25:56
  get like recommended like people being
• 25:59
  very very open about like their medical
• 26:02
  issue or you like a video like I'm dying
• 26:06
  and and and it it or something like that
• 26:08
  and it's like 8 million views or some
• 26:12
  somebody that's like um
• 26:14
  >> you had some sort of catastrophic thing
• 26:16
  happen or something. It's,
• 26:20
  you know, that's what happened with me
• 26:21
  when I got kicked out of those comic
• 26:23
  book shops. I didn't go in to that that
• 26:27
  day. I was not looking for that. But
• 26:31
  instead of having the shame, I realized
• 26:36
  that
• 26:37
  this is it. Th this this is this is my
• 26:42
  foot and it that's what I became. It
• 26:46
  it's just it sucks that it had to happen
• 26:50
  like that cuz I mean you know ideally
• 26:52
  you know the the video that blows up is
• 26:54
  I found my dad's comic book collection.
• 26:56
  Look at these insane grails. That should
• 26:59
  be a million views but it doesn't.
• 27:03
  That's not
• 27:04
  >> No.
• 27:07
  You you never know, man. All it takes is
• 27:09
  a personality and an idea. That's what
• 27:11
  keeps me going. Like, if you if if I
• 27:14
  don't know how long you've watched my
• 27:15
  content, but if anybody out there, like,
• 27:17
  you've seen me evolve to do one thing,
• 27:18
  to do another thing, to another thing.
• 27:20
  It's cuz I'm trying to think of a new
• 27:21
  idea that can kind of get me over that
• 27:23
  hump. You know what I'm saying? Like,
• 27:25
  >> and all it takes is that one idea, and
• 27:27
  that's what's keeping me going in this
• 27:28
  thing. So, I'm hoping that that this
• 27:30
  kind of thing eventually takes off. I
• 27:31
  have no idea if it's going to, but I
• 27:33
  think maybe at some point if I can get a
• 27:35
  partner on here to talk about anything
• 27:38
  because I think just listening and and
• 27:40
  talking to people is could be great,
• 27:43
  could be funny. There's a lot of
• 27:44
  podcasts out there that I think are
• 27:46
  hysterical. That's what I've been
• 27:47
  listening to a lot lately that that
• 27:49
  don't just cover collectibles, but they
• 27:51
  cover kind of everything. So, that's
• 27:52
  that's what I'm hoping at least.
• 27:54
  >> Yeah, I think you're on to something
• 27:56
  because there really is not there's
• 27:58
  nothing like that in this space. like
• 28:00
  we're all on this island seemingly like,
• 28:03
  you know, Tom has the golden age guru
• 28:07
  guy, he had that other comic shop owner
• 28:10
  and they had chemistry, but there's um
• 28:13
  there's nobody that has that. And I
• 28:18
  think I think you're on to something. Um
• 28:22
  the problem is is that
• 28:26
  it's an individualistic
• 28:28
  kind of endeavor in a lot of ways
• 28:30
  because it's like you know me coming on
• 28:32
  your channel I'm not getting paid for
• 28:34
  this. I'm doing this because I like you
• 28:35
  and it's fun. It's good to talk, but I
• 28:38
  mean, you know, if I came on your
• 28:41
  channel, we started doing our thing
• 28:42
  together, then it's like we're
• 28:44
  splitting. And then if we have
• 28:45
  conflicting
• 28:47
  um, you know, art artistic
• 28:50
  progression like because I mean, you're
• 28:52
  the CEO, the producer, the director, the
• 28:55
  actor of Mighty Comics and Collectibles.
• 28:58
  I'm Sticky Goose and we are our own
• 29:02
  people and I don't work well with
• 29:06
  others. I just I know myself. Um I I
• 29:11
  mean I
• 29:12
  but I know exactly what you're saying.
• 29:14
  If you can get somebody like because
• 29:17
  that's what you want, that banter
• 29:19
  because you don't have to because right
• 29:20
  now you're carrying the weight of Mighty
• 29:23
  Comics and Collectibles on your freaking
• 29:25
  shoulders. like it's it's not like it
• 29:29
  starts and stops with you
• 29:31
  >> and it's it's hard.
• 29:34
  >> But let me just say this. If let's say
• 29:38
  and I'm going to use as an example. I'm
• 29:39
  not saying this is going to happen, but
• 29:41
  let's say this one blows up, right?
• 29:43
  >> This one that we doing blows up and
• 29:45
  people say we want to see more of this.
• 29:47
  Like this is on Mighty Comics
• 29:50
  Collectibles channel for now, but it's
• 29:51
  also on its own channel which is got
• 29:53
  like [ __ ] 20 subscribers. So, if that
• 29:56
  was something you or I'm not just saying
• 29:57
  you or anyone who I approached and
• 29:59
  approached said, you know what, this has
• 30:01
  been really good.
• 30:02
  >> Yeah.
• 30:02
  >> Let's do it on our own on a separate
• 30:05
  channel and you'd split everything down
• 30:07
  the middle. We do have to work each. I
• 30:09
  mean, obviously me obviously I do a lot
• 30:12
  more editing than a lot of people out
• 30:14
  there. So, but you'd have to divide up
• 30:15
  the work, but at the end the end of the
• 30:17
  day, the entertainment is coming from
• 30:19
  two people or three people, however many
• 30:21
  people are on the show. So, is that
• 30:23
  something that you'd be interested in
• 30:24
  going forward? I'm not saying it's going
• 30:25
  to happen with me, but like if if you
• 30:26
  were approached with that and somebody
• 30:28
  came at you with that idea, is that
• 30:29
  something you would be like, you know
• 30:30
  what, if it's going to get me to where I
• 30:33
  want and we could do this together, why
• 30:34
  not?
• 30:36
  >> Yeah. Yeah. All right.
• 30:37
  >> It seems like that
• 30:40
  um because
• 30:42
  it's not happening in the comic space
• 30:44
  like the biggest comic people like comic
• 30:46
  comic story alone, comics explained,
• 30:50
  he's alone. I mean, they they might have
• 30:52
  editors, but I don't include that. I'm
• 30:55
  talking about the personalities on the
• 30:58
  screen and um but like I look at like
• 31:01
  the video game space like they they
• 31:04
  develop these like groups. Uh, I don't I
• 31:07
  don't know how familiar you are with
• 31:08
  that, but like the kind of funny people,
• 31:10
  Funhouse, Achievement Hunter, Rooster
• 31:13
  Teeth, like they they they got like a
• 31:17
  group and then they had so many
• 31:19
  different personalities and there was
• 31:21
  somebody for everybody because I
• 31:22
  realized when you click on a Sticky
• 31:24
  Goose video, you either like me or you
• 31:26
  don't. Like it's it this is my this is
• 31:29
  my stick. This is it. But if I was like
• 31:32
  a part of a hole and it's like, "Oh well
• 31:35
  [ __ ] Sticky Goose is on this one. He's
• 31:37
  gonna be a wild card. Oh man, I'm glad
• 31:40
  Sticky isn't on this one." So, you know,
• 31:41
  I'm glad to hear Mighty like that. Yes.
• 31:45
  Yes.
• 31:47
  I I think there's an idea in there.
• 31:49
  That's the thing. I think if you get the
• 31:51
  right people together, it could be
• 31:52
  [ __ ] pure gold. I think that's that's
• 31:55
  what we're all looking for doing this.
• 31:57
  But I think this is also a good segue
• 31:58
  into the last thing I want to talk about
• 32:00
  with you and that is other YouTubers if
• 32:03
  you want to talk about it. Um,
• 32:06
  I've been pretty vocal about, obviously,
• 32:09
  you know, I put work into this. You
• 32:11
  know, I take it seriously, but
• 32:13
  >> yes,
• 32:14
  >> uh, there are people out there who I
• 32:16
  think say that they call themselves
• 32:19
  either comic book YouTubers or any type
• 32:21
  of YouTubers or just kind of come on and
• 32:22
  just like not a podcast like this, but
• 32:25
  they just come on and just talk about
• 32:27
  their favorite things. And I think
• 32:28
  that's totally fine. But then we have
• 32:29
  things like the comic book community
• 32:31
  awards and you know the people are
• 32:33
  getting awards for just kind of doing
• 32:35
  that thing. Yeah, I know you're going to
• 32:37
  break it out for anybody's listening
• 32:39
  onto on just the podcast without
• 32:40
  watching. He's showing his comic book
• 32:42
  community award. But like to me like I
• 32:45
  don't know like I was a little bit
• 32:46
  miffed and I don't really care because
• 32:47
  I'm not like a big avid of the award
• 32:49
  thing. But like that they took away like
• 32:51
  the larger channel uh award winners.
• 32:54
  What do you think about people out there
• 32:56
  who who come on YouTube and and kind of
• 32:59
  put out what they're putting out? I hate
• 33:00
  to put it like that, but that's what it
• 33:02
  is.
• 33:02
  >> Yeah, it's it's sticker people. It the
• 33:04
  thing is is pe people are wanting
• 33:06
  different things out of this. Like you
• 33:08
  and I are ambitious. Like if we're
• 33:12
  putting out a piece of content, it needs
• 33:15
  to be edited. You want you're respecting
• 33:17
  the person's time. you know, the content
• 33:20
  that you're putting out, it's content
• 33:23
  that you would want to consume. It's
• 33:25
  something that uh you feel like is is
• 33:29
  relevant or it's not wasting the
• 33:31
  person's time. There's people on here
• 33:33
  that just get on here and they're just
• 33:35
  going live habitually and it and and it
• 33:39
  just turns into like why is this even
• 33:42
  live? Like do this on your own time.
• 33:46
  like and it's it's cluttering the
• 33:49
  algorithm. It clutters the thing like
• 33:52
  what this sounds elitist. It sounds
• 33:54
  gatekeeping. But if we want this to grow
• 33:59
  like it we should it should weed out
• 34:03
  itself and and it has to an extent
• 34:06
  because c certain YouTubers obviously
• 34:09
  are much much better but even they're
• 34:12
  not growing exponentially. I mean, it's
• 34:16
  this is a slow growth.
• 34:19
  >> Yeah. I I for me, like I said, I I
• 34:21
  there's nothing wrong with coming out
• 34:23
  with your buddies and just want to, you
• 34:24
  know, talk and and listen to comments
• 34:26
  and respond to comments. I do it. You
• 34:28
  did it last week. I was on listening to
• 34:29
  your show when you did it just to kind
• 34:30
  of go on and have fun. I think that's
• 34:32
  totally fine.
• 34:33
  >> But then I hear people talk about like,
• 34:35
  oh, you know, my views and whatever.
• 34:37
  Like, listen, if you like, if you want
• 34:39
  views, like that's not the stuff you
• 34:40
  should be doing. It's just it's just not
• 34:42
  what it is. It's just my opinion. So, I
• 34:43
  know I'm going to get killed on this,
• 34:44
  which is fine. We're allowed to have our
• 34:46
  own opinion, but the amount of work that
• 34:47
  that we put into this stuff, like that's
• 34:50
  where we're coming from.
• 34:51
  >> I There was one there was one individual
• 34:53
  and he he's he's like like one of the
• 34:56
  kings of the sticker people. He he this
• 34:58
  is a thing he said. He says he did not
• 35:01
  want to edit videos or produce something
• 35:05
  that he would be afraid that he would
• 35:07
  have to continue to produce at that
• 35:10
  level. Those were his words.
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  And he he said it in such a
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  matter-of-act way. He truly believed it
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  and it was it encapsulated it honestly
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  it's like disrespectful. Like it's like
• 35:23
  I'm going to [ __ ] this stuff out and I'm
• 35:26
  not going to put any work into it
• 35:28
  because I don't want to have to repeat
• 35:31
  that work. Like do you know how pathetic
• 35:33
  that is? Like like that is the mentality
• 35:36
  of all of them. And it just
• 35:41
  it's it's funny because
• 35:44
  those people are the people watching
• 35:46
  these videos.
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  >> So
• 35:49
  your your audience,
• 35:52
  you don't realize that a major a large
• 35:55
  portion of your audience is other comic
• 35:58
  book YouTubers because this is like part
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  of our hobby. like it's this our hobby
• 36:04
  is YouTube and the other YouTubers are
• 36:08
  doing this too. So
• 36:12
  it's it's a it's a double-edged sword.
• 36:14
  Like when you start calling them out
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  >> Yeah, it is. It really is. But that's
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  the game with that we you know that the
• 36:21
  game that's the game that we're playing
• 36:22
  right now unfortunately with YouTube.
• 36:23
  But you know that's our space. I hate to
• 36:26
  say it but that's that's what we're in
• 36:27
  right now. like there. It's crazy
• 36:31
  because you know what what is the
• 36:32
  Pokemon space look like right now? I bet
• 36:35
  the space is booming. Like you're you're
• 36:38
  a new YouTuber that comes on talking
• 36:41
  Pokemon. You've got a decent
• 36:42
  personality. You've got good editing,
• 36:44
  good lighting, yada yada yada. You're
• 36:47
  probably surging. You're probably
• 36:50
  >> 15 20,000 subscriber for us. No, that's
• 36:54
  50 for them. You know, what does that
• 36:56
  space look like? Is this just a
• 36:58
  stagnated space? What you're doing right
• 37:02
  now, you're taking risks. You're going
• 37:04
  outside the box. I I have tried that and
• 37:08
  I I guess I'm falling into that trap of
• 37:11
  just like stick to what I know. If you'd
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