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Violence at teen anti-violence event · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: I try not to get upset with people. I really do.
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  Speaker 1: I make heroic efforts.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes not to be upset with people, because I you know,
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  Speaker 2: people are people, and some.
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  Speaker 1: Of them are different, some of them are odd.
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  Speaker 2: I try to make allowances for that, but I have
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  Speaker 2: to admit every now and then some people get on
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  Speaker 2: my nerves. And I know today he's just kind of
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  Speaker 2: been one of those days. Zach was getting calls. Earlier
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  Speaker 2: in the last hour. Some guy was calling up and
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  Speaker 2: yelling at him about everything, things over which he has
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  Speaker 2: no control, but just kept calling, repeatedly calling. And then
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  Speaker 2: there's always we get calls here on the show where
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  Speaker 2: somebody will call and Zach will pick up the phone
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  Speaker 2: and you know, do his normal chunk down his power
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  Speaker 2: hours extend WTV And what are you calling about? Well,
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  Speaker 2: what's he talking about today? Well, if you don't know,
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  Speaker 2: why are you calling? I mean, really honestly, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: know it's it's if you if you have a thought
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  Speaker 2: and opinion, that's fine, But if you have no idea,
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  Speaker 2: why would you call?
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  Speaker 1: I don't get that.
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  Speaker 2: On the social media, I posted when it was that
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  Speaker 2: three days ago about the situation out there in Whitehall
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  Speaker 2: where they had their uh their anti violence event which
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  Speaker 2: ended in violence and UH. I put a link to
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  Speaker 2: the story on my Facebook page. Here's what I put here.
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  Speaker 2: This is my comment on this story. No committee, no
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  Speaker 2: task force, no plan, no program, not even basketball will
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  Speaker 2: change the inherent nature of a human being.
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  Speaker 1: But maybe that's just me.
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  Speaker 2: Can you argue with that, Zach No, No, there's no
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  Speaker 2: way to argue with Nonetheless, some people chimed in and
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  Speaker 2: found a way to argue with it. And then you've
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  Speaker 2: got the people who want to come in with their
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  Speaker 2: anecdotal stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Well in my house, here's.
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  Speaker 2: But see, your house isn't the whole house. That's not
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  Speaker 2: the world, And there will always be anecdotal evidence to
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  Speaker 2: agree with or to counter anything, but as a whole,
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  Speaker 2: as a general rule, I stand by no committee, no
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  Speaker 2: task force, no plan, no program, not even basketball will change.
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  Speaker 1: The inherent nature of a human being. People are what
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  Speaker 1: they are, period period.
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  Speaker 2: And here you are at this event in Whitehall, again
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  Speaker 2: aimed at keeping kids off the streets and out of trouble.
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  Speaker 2: This last Thursday night, multiple fights breaking out, Whitehall police
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  Speaker 2: deploying pepper spray. The weekly event is known as Thursday
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  Speaker 2: Night Thriller hosted by Whitehall Divisional Police, features basketball games
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  Speaker 2: and giveaways. Officers say it's designed to provide a safe space.
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  Speaker 1: For young people during the summer.
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  Speaker 2: While much of the event went smoothly with nearly four
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  Speaker 2: thousand attendees, free shoe giveaways, several basketball games, tensions.
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  Speaker 1: Escalated late in the evening.
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  Speaker 2: According to the police, three separate fights broke out outside
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  Speaker 2: the basketball courts. Bodycam video shows officers trying to control
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  Speaker 2: the crowd, with some shouting chill, chill, chill as chaos unfolded.
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  Speaker 2: Ultimate officers ultimately used pepper spray to disperse the groups.
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  Speaker 2: Police said five juveniles were charged with disorderly conduct.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they said chill multiple times and they didn't stop.
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  Speaker 2: I know, can you believe it? They said chill, chill, chill,
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  Speaker 2: I mean once, what three times? I think everybody's supposed
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  Speaker 2: to chill, that's in the rule book. But they didn't chill, chill, chill.
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  Speaker 2: Police said they weren't expecting that many people to be there. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: that's something they're definitely going to look at for future events.
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  Speaker 2: Williams said they likely did not have enough officers on hand.
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  Speaker 2: I believe it broke down to like one officer to
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  Speaker 2: five hundred people was the police ratio, which again, and
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  Speaker 2: if you look at the staffing levels City of Columbus
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  Speaker 2: Police Department, how many officers do you have per capita
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  Speaker 2: in the City of Columbus. And again, that's where all
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  Speaker 2: kinds of bad people are out there doing bad things.
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  Speaker 2: You have an event here that is for good stuff
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  Speaker 2: and to keep kids out of trouble, So it seems
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  Speaker 2: odd that you need more law enforcement anyway, Williams said
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  Speaker 2: they likely did not have enough officers on hand to
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  Speaker 2: manage the unexpected turnout. Police also work alongside private security
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  Speaker 2: in city parks and REX staff to monitor the event.
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  Speaker 2: This is the third year of the summer program, not
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  Speaker 2: the first time violence is broken out. This is a
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  Speaker 2: ten TV story similar incident occurred during last year's event.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely frustrated, Williams said, we can't stop everything from happening,
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  Speaker 2: but we're going to do our best to make sure
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  Speaker 2: we're prepared for things like this and the future. Police
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  Speaker 2: said they plan to meet next week in order to
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  Speaker 2: review what went wrong. Well, if this is the third
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  Speaker 2: year you've done it, aren't you aren't you estimating the
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  Speaker 2: crowds at this point? Don't you kind of know what's
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  Speaker 2: going to turn out. I'm just saying I'm not blaming
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  Speaker 2: the officers. I'm just saying, don't give you a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of minutia about well, there's more people than where you No,
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe that you knew how many were going
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  Speaker 2: to turn out. You just didn't count on people coming
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  Speaker 2: to an event that centers around peace in the streets
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  Speaker 2: and turning it into violence.
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  Speaker 1: Again, I stand by exactly what I said. No event,
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  Speaker 1: no plan, no.
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  Speaker 2: Basketball, nothing changes the inherent nature of a human being.
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  Speaker 2: Bad people do bad things. It is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: A two six number E two NWTV and Jeff here
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  Speaker 1: Line Hype.
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  Speaker 4: Good after the chuck.
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing doing well?
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  Speaker 2: Sir?
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  Speaker 4: And I was calling about the the arrest in Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 4: I just watched the video after I was listening to you,
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  Speaker 4: and I agree with you. I've been a criminal defense
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  Speaker 4: attorney for thirty seven years here in Franklin County, and uh,
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  Speaker 4: that's just it's just amazing what people think they can
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  Speaker 4: get away with when you know, appears as though he
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  Speaker 4: opened his door to I asked for as the driver's
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  Speaker 4: license of course he's driving or suspension by would have
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  Speaker 4: happened in the car would tip ben, he either towed
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  Speaker 4: or or left, and he would probably just got a ticket.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd go get a court appearance, he'd go in.
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  Speaker 2: He'd get a ticket for driving under suspension. He probably
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  Speaker 2: have to pay towing and storage fees on the car
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  Speaker 2: and provide proof of license and insurance before he was
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  Speaker 2: able to pick it up if it was registered in
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  Speaker 2: his name, But he wouldn't have gotten his tail beaten.
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  Speaker 4: I don't I didn't see. I saw the body worn camera.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't see the punches. I don't know what Why
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  Speaker 4: would the officer do that, But that's yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's a pretty extreme if anything, that deputy, I think
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  Speaker 2: is going to be pulled up on some charges. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: the deputy on the passenger side said do it, do it,
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  Speaker 2: and then the deputy on the driver's side used, I
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  Speaker 2: guess some sort of pressure device, busted a hole in
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  Speaker 2: the window, and then literally, incredible, a hulk like punched
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  Speaker 2: through the window and punched this guy in the jaw.
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  Speaker 2: That might have been a little overreach, but again, if
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  Speaker 2: you comply, none of this crap happens.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I get my clients. I hate to say, have.
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  Speaker 2: You I've never called anything? Have I, Jeff, I, I don't. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I've got a criminal guy I might see. I believe
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  Speaker 2: now I have medication for every sickness. I also have
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  Speaker 2: a lawyer for every occasion. My criminal guy's name is Josh.
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  Speaker 2: So that's not you, I thought, hets, No, that's Zach zachlades.
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  Speaker 3: Park plug.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm good.
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  Speaker 2: Are you? Let me ask you, Jeff. As Columbus is
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  Speaker 2: making all of these efforts and spending all this money
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  Speaker 2: and developing all these programs and having all these committees
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  Speaker 2: to uh to make things more peaceful in the city
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  Speaker 2: of Columbus, has your business slowed this year?
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  Speaker 4: No, I've been doing it so long. I you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think the homicide rates down, but I you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's still you know, as cities grows like to grow
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  Speaker 4: like this, that happens unfortunately.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, last I saw homicide numbers were down, the felonious
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  Speaker 2: assaults were still still maintaining. So yeah, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if people are being nicer to each other,
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  Speaker 2: if their aim just isn't as good as it was
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  Speaker 2: last year.
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  Speaker 4: I've had a few of those too. Uh but uh no,
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  Speaker 4: that's just you know where we where we get to
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  Speaker 4: or come to, people would just absolutely refuse to open
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  Speaker 4: their door to a police officer. They don't know what
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  Speaker 4: they're coming on to. Unfortunately anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I got you, Jeff. I appreciate you listening out
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  Speaker 2: there all right offering your expertise.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 2: That's and now there's an attorney, a criminal defense attorney,
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  Speaker 2: who says, I'm on the right track. Just comply, comply.
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  Speaker 2: There's no reason except your need to get on YouTube
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  Speaker 2: and Instagram. There's no reason to turn a traffic stop
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  Speaker 2: into that kind of incident.
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  Speaker 1: Just comply.
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  Speaker 2: And if you have, you know, good solid information and
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  Speaker 2: evidence that you were in some way mistreated, your civil
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  Speaker 2: rights were violated, there will be someone out there, maybe Jeff,
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  Speaker 2: who will take your case. They'll look at what you
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  Speaker 2: bring to the table say yeah, you absolutely were mistreated.
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  Speaker 2: Here I will take this case. And you know, even
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  Speaker 2: if you're broke, but doesn't recover damages, he'll get some
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  Speaker 2: fine advertising for being on the six o'clock news every night.
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  Speaker 2: There will be attorneys who are very willing to represent
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  Speaker 2: a client in that kind of situation. But comply. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sorry that could have gone terribly wrong. I guess that's
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  Speaker 2: why I feel so strongly about it, because I do
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  Speaker 2: not exonerate officers simply because they are officers. I know
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  Speaker 2: there are some crazy monkey people out there with badges,
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  Speaker 2: get it, I get it. The overwhelming majority of law
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  Speaker 2: enforcement are good, solid, decent citizens. But just like any
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  Speaker 2: other line of work.
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  Speaker 1: There's some bad guys in that line of work.
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  Speaker 2: And if they were among the deputies responding here, this
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  Speaker 2: could be a story about a corpse that got pulled
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  Speaker 2: over in Jacksonville, Florida. Why invite that possibility? Why create
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  Speaker 2: that opportunity for tragedy when all you need to do
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  Speaker 2: is comply. Zach gets pulled over for being an ugly
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  Speaker 2: white guy all the time. He is never once, never,
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  Speaker 2: once refused to cooperate with an officer.
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  Speaker 3: Every time I put my hands out, they just say,
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  Speaker 3: put your palls back in and go.
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  Speaker 2: They're my hands speaking of your your hideousness before we
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  Speaker 2: get out of here. What grade were you in in
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  Speaker 2: that picture you put on your Facebook page.
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  Speaker 3: I was a senior.
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  Speaker 1: That was your senior picture.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they took a video of all of us at
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  Speaker 3: the end of the year actually so young. No, right,
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  Speaker 3: I don't even remember having my head shave back then,
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know what shirt I was wearing. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what book that is. I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: classroom I was in.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: You just I looked at that picture. I'm surprised that
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  Speaker 2: was your senior year because it looks like maybe junior
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  Speaker 2: high school. No, yeah, fresh faced and smiling and completely unrecognizable.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, right, yeah, no, but that was I
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  Speaker 3: did go back. I do have to say, because I've
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  Speaker 3: had some people who messaged me from the midd Ohio
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  Speaker 3: Valley Marietta, Williamstown, West Virginia area down there that said
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  Speaker 3: that they've listened to the to the show. And I
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  Speaker 3: went back home to Williamstown and toward the old high school.
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  Speaker 3: It looks completely different than when I went there, and
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  Speaker 3: that was pretty cool. So anybody in the middle Ohio Valley, Hi.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever gone back to your elementary school after
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  Speaker 1: growing up?
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  Speaker 3: They tore it down?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, they built another ones after you went there. I
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  Speaker 1: can't say that I blame it. Hey, it lasted.
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  Speaker 2: That was something that I have done, and I swear
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  Speaker 2: it's it's hilarious. To walk through there and go, how
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  Speaker 2: did I ever sit in that chair.
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  Speaker 1: The little one?
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  Speaker 2: How did I ever get my knees under that desk?
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  Speaker 2: Everything looks like doll furniture. It's so strange to walk
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  Speaker 2: in that in that building. And uh, it's a huge
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  Speaker 2: building to be an elementary school. My elementary is a
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  Speaker 2: huge building over one my beloved west Side Highland Elementary.
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  Speaker 2: And it looks like some it's like the castle where
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  Speaker 2: the bats come out at the beginning of Scooby Doo.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a big, giant building and uh,
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  Speaker 2: you go inside, it's got all the teeny tiny yale
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  Speaker 2: fun you want to go. I can't believe I ever
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  Speaker 2: said in those chairs anyway, time goes on high school
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  Speaker 2: furniture actually kind of just as bad. I can't believe
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  Speaker 2: I ever got in half the because you know, you've
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  Speaker 2: got the desk that comes off of the chair and
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  Speaker 2: wraps around.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's connected to it's one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah thing I even have to the weight loss.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot believe I ever said in one of those
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  Speaker 2: How I got in there is beyond me. How I
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  Speaker 2: got out is even further beyond me. You would think
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  Speaker 2: i'd be wedged in there real.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I got in and out of mind just fine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's because you were fresh faced and thin
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  Speaker 2: and the sign in your front yard.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for posting it. I appreciate.
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  Speaker 2: Even your mom got on my Facebook page and appreciated
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you put a sign in your front yard.
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  Speaker 3: I put a sign in my front yard.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you saw the sign. I put it up on Facebook.
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  Speaker 1: You liked the post?
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  Speaker 3: What was it?
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  Speaker 1: Do you put the big yellow sign in your front yard?
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  Speaker 2: See, now everybody's gonna go to my Facebook page so
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  Speaker 2: they can see the sign for your front yard.
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  Speaker 1: You've seen it. You liked it. Yep, you liked the post.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I like everything that you do.
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  Speaker 1: I'm wow.
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  Speaker 2: We hang on a second. I need to throw up
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. Okay, it's humorous.
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  Speaker 1: That wasn't real, was it? You didn't really just snort
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  Speaker 1: for real?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty funny.
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  Speaker 3: As much bs as we give each other in the hallways,
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  Speaker 3: we're way nicer to each other on air.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to f CC gets involved.