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Rick Mast Show | NASCAR Lawsuit Latest, Dale Earnhardt Jr Brings Back Iconic Budweiser 8 & Joey Logano Wins Vegas! · Kenny Wallace Media

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All right, there we go. We are live.
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You are live. You are looking live.
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This is another live edition of the Rick Mass show.
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I'm Charlie Marlowe. That is the great Rick Mass.
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We're going to talk all things NASCAR.
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We got a lot to talk about today, Rick.
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How are you doing, Sir? Doing well, Charlie.
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Doing well, my man. Good to hear, good to hear.
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OK, let's start out because we we put this on the title, just a
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little bit of a lawsuit update with NASCAR and 2311 racing in
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Front Row Motorsports. We don't have to discuss it at
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length, but it's interesting and it's kind of topical.
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So I'll just read a little bit of the reporting.
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First we got Bob Pop Grass of Fox Sports and he says so he
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tweets this last night. NASCAR just filed a response to
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preliminary injunction motion. So some quick notes from this.
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The new charter deal is 7 years with a possible extension.
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Neither 2311 or Front Row Motorsports has submitted a
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request yet for a charter transfer from Stewart Haas
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Racing. So that's pretty interesting
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there. NASCAR plans for a season with
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32 charters and eight open positions as of now.
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And so that's from Bob Pograss. NASCAR is saying their main
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arguments against this injunction are that the teams
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can still run as open cars and if the teams win, they can get
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their monetary damages can be calculated after that.
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And then I just want to read one more thing before I get your
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thoughts. Of course, Rick.
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I promise. I promise I'll shut up.
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Soon. And this is from then Matt
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Weaver who writes for Sports not and so basically 2311 in front
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row. They issued a strongly worded
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opening statement and they say here quote defendants opposition
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prematurely argues the merits of plaintiffs preliminary
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injunction misrepresents the discovery that plaintiffs seek
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and like any monopolistic bully attacks plaintiffs for daring to
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question their authority. So I won't read everything, but
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basically 2311 in front row. They want NASCAR to open up the
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books. They want these six documents.
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They want it relatively quickly through discovery.
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NASCAR saying no, that's where we are.
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Rick Mast, what do you think? Yeah, they, you know what that I
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mean that this is this is this is lawyer talk, man.
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I'm telling you, I've been, you know, been around this stuff and
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involved and listened it all. And this is just the stuff that
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we're going to hear all the time.
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And it's, it's both sides, you know, jockeying for their
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position, you know, that they, both sides in these cases, they,
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they do everything. They jockey, they, they make
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their cases, they, they expand their cases, they do things, say
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things on the cases that really have no relevance sometimes in a
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court of law. And, you know, that's all,
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that's all this is, that's all this is, Charlie.
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And you know, until they get in front of a judge, you know, we,
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you know, all this stuff is speculation.
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We don't know the east side. You know, east side makes your
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claims. That's the way it works in these
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lawsuits. And you know, some claims are
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out landing, some are not. I mean, it's obvious NASCAR's
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dug their you know, they they dug their heels to saying, Nope,
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you didn't sign the charter. You ain't get the charter.
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You ain't coming in you brief race.
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But we ain't giving you a charter, right.
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They dug your heels to saying legally in the in their in their
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in their briefs, you know, in the other sides dug their heels
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in. We ain't signed this stupid
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charter. You're screwing us and it ain't
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good. You're screwing everybody and
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you're all terrible and you know we ain't going to do it like
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that. Well, that's your two sides,
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dude, And now that's up to the judge to and then what?
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The one thing it is kind of tell him a little bit is they asked
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for a jury trial. You know, the 2311 did front
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row. I doubt it to get to them.
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I don't know. I shouldn't even say that I
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should not only strike that I don't know what that means or
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what that gets to, but asking for a jury trial and I'm sure
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NASCAR wants a judge, you know, not a jury trial.
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I don't know, you know, but anyhow, that's that's really the
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only thing in this whole deal so far that's intrigued me a little
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bit. It would be if this thing, if it
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ever does go before a judge for final determination because
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they, you know, in these cases, they always try to mediate the
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the judges, the courts, they, they do everything in their
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power to get the two sides to mediate in any of these type of
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lawsuits and suits that goes on. And if it was to get to to a
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courtroom and mediation didn't work and it was to get to a
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courtroom, is a judge going to hear it or 12 jurors going to
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hear it? Now that's something we'll talk
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about here on the Rick Mass show, OK, It was to get to that.
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That's that's the only thing right now that really intrigues
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me about it. Other than that, it's just a
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just a typical damn lawsuit that goes on every day in our great
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country. Yeah, it's funny because I was
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kind of laughing as I was reading it.
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It is such, you said lawyer talk.
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That's the perfect way to describe it.
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It's legalese, it's jargon. I think at first when this
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lawsuit dropped it, it is very interesting and it it could be a
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seismic shift in the sport. As it drags on, though, it does
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get kind of boring. I mean, you have some some
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headlines and what not, but the monopolistic bullies, they
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already basically wrote that in their first briefing when the
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lawsuit was, was filed. So I don't know.
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I, I feel like at this time of the season with the playoffs in
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full swing, I, I've now kind of shifted to, to kind of like,
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let's focus on the lawsuit in the offseason.
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I do think it's going to be very interesting, but now we're into
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3-4 weeks of it. It's very important.
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But I feel like the fans, they are going to probably get a
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little tired of it and it's like a, let's finish the racing.
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We have a month of the playoffs. It's going to be fantastic.
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And just from a consumption standpoint, let's revisit this
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once the season ends. That's how I'm kind of thinking
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now, even though that we create content in this space and people
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watch it, but I'm kind of like, all right, let's, let's, let's
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do the races and then we'll handle the lawsuit afterwards.
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Yeah, that's kind of what's happened.
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It made a big, it made the big splash when it was announced and
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that whole week we got play time, excuse me, we got play
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time here. You got play time on all the all
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the networks national news and then it kind of died out.
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And that's that's kind of way these things work.
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And you know, my deal is hell. Let's get the race over.
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The race is eased over. Worry about this crap later.
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And we said, you know, we said when it happened, it's just it's
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a shame that it's happened right as soon as this chase is
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happening, right? We all admitted to that.
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But but it kind of didn't blow over.
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But it's not dominating the headlines now, and that's a good
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thing. All right, so here's a good
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headline from the week. I was actually going to start
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with this until last night's news with the lawsuit.
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But seeing that beautiful red Budweiser 8 car that Dale Junior
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is going to be running with some of his late model stuff and
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dirty MO media. They did it all kinds of talk
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about it in interviews on their podcast.
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They rolled it out. That thing looks slick and I
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think just for for NASCAR fans who are yearning from
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yesteryear, even though we're not talking 60s, seventies, 80s,
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this was more of a a 2000s type thing.
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But it's just really cool to see that red 8 back and to see it on
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a track, even if it's not going to be NASCAR now.
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Now maybe down the road, could it be an Xfinity race?
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I don't know. For right now, it's in in the
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late model series that Dale Junior is going to be running.
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But that was pretty sweet. It was, it was I, I, I like
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that. You know, the thing of it is,
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it's two things here, Charlie. It's Earnhardt, right?
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It's Earnhardt name and it's Budweiser.
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I mean, come on, man, admit to it.
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Wiser's owned by Anheuser Busch. Anheuser Busch has been of the
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longest supporters of our sport, right?
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I mean, what was that series? I, I, I, I made my way in the
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Busch Grand National Series, right?
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Bush, Bush Grand National. So as so as competitor in the
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sport for 30 years, you know, you look at it as as a little
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bit different, 'cause you know, like Budweiser been in it so
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long, it's Junior Johnson and us.
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You know, you get into the 90s and everything that was going on
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and everything's a sponsor. And anyhow that through all
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this, they ended up with, with Earnhardt, they end up with
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Junior, right? And that was kind of like, you
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know, that was great. I had Billy Elliot, they had
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they had all the great Savannah and they ended up with Earnhardt
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Junior. And it was just, it was a
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magical time when they when Budweiser went on his car,
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right? And he came in their sport or he
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came in the cup. It was when our sport had
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exploded and it was the most popular at that point as far as
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fan attendance and all that. And you have so many people that
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remember that nowadays. So maybe don't follow the sport
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as much And it's it's just a cool throwback, man.
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For me personally, you know, I have a a little daring, I guess
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some daring thoughts about about Anheuser Busch from Budweiser
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and all that because of the sport they've given us all these
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years. So, you know, for this, this
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have to be back. I know I'm rambling on here, but
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not really giving you a good ass answer, but it's just a cool
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deal. It's a cool deal.
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That's a good answer. And by the way, I'm I'm joining
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everybody from St. Louis, MO, home of Anheuser
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Busch. I go down to a Cardinals games
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at Busch Stadium, taking that brewery tour a million times,
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going to Grant's farm to see the Clydesdales with my kids in the
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petting zoo and all that. So obviously Anheuser Busch,
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just such a rich history with Saint Louis, with NASCAR.
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So it got me thinking though, and I think first of all, you'll
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you'll be great on this topic, But where do you if we just had
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to kind of off the top of our heads rank the iconic schemes in
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NASCAR history? I think the red 8 has to be I'm
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guessing. I mean, I think for me, it's got
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to be in at least the top ten. Now we're going to go all the
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way back here for for me, I mean Earnhardt with the black 3, Jeff
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Gordon, Rainbow warrior for for me, I'm 42 years old.
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I would say the the three cars in my lifetime that are most
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recognizable, Earnhardt, Jeff Gordon and Dale Junior's red
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Budweiser 8. We're we're you're probably
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going to go back a little a little more.
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What about you? Top schemes all time?
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All all time top scheme, no doubt, 43 STP no doubt just
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because the longevity of it and the winning record of it right
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past that. Take the next 5 or 6 and mix
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them together and throw them up and I don't know who's on top.
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21 pure later, pure later. Mercury, The Wood Brothers, such
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an iconic scheme. In fact, they keep throwing back
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that scheme. Right now they, you know, they
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do throwback races and that's what The Wood Brothers throw on
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there. The old 21 red or dark red or
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whatever the color was and white and Mercury colors, right?
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Pure later. I don't know, just cool deal
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past that. Golly, Charlie, you've got to
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look at well, you I do you got to look at the Budweiser cars,
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right. You got to look at the junior
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Johnson cars. You've got to look at man, the
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Gatorade number 88 iconic because it was one of the IT was
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a big time sponsor that Sir. It seemed like when it come in
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their sport, it was one of the, you know, four or five like an
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STP that came into the sport that really then they dominated
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some races and they were just out there with that name and
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Gatorade was pretty young at the time promoting itself and that
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that was just a cool deal at that time.
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You go back from that. The one I always loved and I
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don't know that anybody else knows about this much, is the
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purple #22 of Fireball Roberts. That was always such a cool car.
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I think might be in the Hall of Fame now.
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Weston Kelly, is that Fireball Roberts Purple 22 in your shop,
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right? You go back past that.
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We've talked about the Carl Key Cafers or whatever the guy's
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name was. It had those 303 hundred.
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There was a number Mercury outboard Mercury on the side of
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the car, right? He had those.
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That was the late 50s, right? But you coming on up through, I
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don't know. To me, you got the 43, right?
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You've got the three, you've got the 24, all right?
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You've got those guys and hard pressed to put anybody hit of
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those 3 in in my opinion. Because we're talking about, I'm
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not going to say the old days. I'm going to call him the good
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old days. We had some some news this week
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as well yesterday with Bobby Allison.
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So he gets his 85th win. And I'll just read from the
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NASCAR Twitter account. This is from yesterday.
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They say today NASCAR announces its recognition of Bobby Allison
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as the official winner of the 1971 NASCAR Cup Series race at
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Bowman Gray Stadium. Allison, who drove a Grand
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American car to victory that day, now counts this win toward
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his NASCAR Cup total, bringing him to 885 career wins.
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So cool little picture in graphic.
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NASCAR went there and they they had a picture with him handing
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him the certificate and the plaque.
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And just hearing from a lot of people in the NASCAR world, it
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seemed like this was something that kind of had ticked off
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Bobby over the years. And everything that I've seen
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says that this is now justice being done, that he should have
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had this win all along. What do you think?
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Charlie, this is just another, this is another case of NASCAR
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finally getting something right or getting something right
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again, right? This can I tell you what it does
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to me in my thought, my first thought when I heard this, OK,
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this goes in line with the thought processes of of creating
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the NASCAR alumni group, right? The alumni group that we've
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talked about here that I'm a part of and so many of the guys
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that are part of and NASCAR is promoting and doing all this
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stuff for the guys that were in the sport, right?
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It's it's it's you know, a great deal, a great deal.
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NASCAR is doing this deal with Bobby, giving him the, you know,
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acts physically doing this before before we lose Bobby,
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right? Because it has been a bone of
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contention with this guy contention bone of contention
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for a number of year, years and years with Bobby and our buddy
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Rick Houston over at Winston Cup scene or whatever that is seen
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about. I think, you know, he's been
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pushing on it. Some other people been pushing
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for this thing and for them to finally recognize, OK, let's get
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this right. Let's do this.
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I, I, you know, it's, it's so those things like, you know, you
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like, you know, why don't why we didn't do this before?
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Well, the hell, it doesn't matter.
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We did it now. So that's what's important,
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right? And I'm happy for him.
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I'm really happy for Bob. I know even Donnie's talked
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about, you know, I've always talked to Donnie more than I
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have Bobby all through the years for whatever reason.
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I don't know, but Donnie, Donnie will start spitting and cussing
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when he talks about his brother getting a dude out of a race,
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right? It's it's pretty cool.
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And now they've got that and, you know, the recognition is
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where it should be, you know, and I don't know, you know, I
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don't know why all of a sudden we decided to do it, but I'm
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glad we did. I'm glad those guys did.
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I mean, it looks like they're it looks like NASCAR are really
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trying. You know what I mean, Charlie?
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They're really trying to look after the past or look at the
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past in sport cause the past of our sport is so significant and
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everything we do going, I think going forward to learn from it
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and do from it. And you know, I don't know, I
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just, I just love it. I love it.
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Yeah, and and maybe this is going to be a bad analogy, so
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I'll say this beforehand because I'm not trying in any way to
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compare Bobby Allison and and Pete Rose and any of the off the
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field stuff. But I'm just thinking about the
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fact that let's say Pete Rose gets in the Hall of Fame and I'm
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not even trying to get into that debate, but if he does, it's
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going to be after he's passed away.
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And I think is Bobby Allison 86? I believe I looked that up,
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right. So, so the fact that you were
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able to honor him and give him this win while he's still alive,
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and then you talk about the history of the sport, really to
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me, that's what this is about. It's about history.
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It's about storytelling. And like, if you're a young
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NASCAR fan, because of this story yesterday, a lot of people
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didn't know about this, right? So it brings Bobby Allison back
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into the forefront and people can learn about his greatness
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again and they can remember the past, which I know you love.
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Charlie, it's like this past weekend, Katie that works, as
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you know, works in Vail to stem the clinic or orthopedic center.
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She took three of her working colleagues.
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So they went to Vegas. All right, she took them and
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none, none of them had ever been.
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And they're they were the ones that worked on the well, I'm not
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supposed to say that they work on a lot of people at this
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place. All right, lot of lot of
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athletes get work. So anyhow, they went and share
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Katie took them and all three of them.
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Well, they went to Daytona, but it got rained out, so didn't get
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anything. So anyhow, they went to Vegas.
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These these girls, according to Katie, had the biggest time they
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had. But you know, they're like
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walking around their mouths hanging open.
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They're walking in pre race, seeing the drivers, right,
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seeing seeing the people. You can you can kind of see
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stuff and watch stuff and I don't know, just the whole
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whatever went on the whole spectacle of being there.
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These ladies were the whole time with Katie questioning and
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looking and and figuring and and and mouths hanging open and just
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really excited. They really got excited over the
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crew members. It seemed me like the buff crew
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members, like where they get all these crew members.
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Well, right. So, but through all this, it was
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always question and answers and it was the the the ladies were
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asking Katie questions and it would lead to why does why does
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this all right? That is, if that's the answer,
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why then Katie would have to go back and talk about history a
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little bit and how this got to where they got to right.
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Then she would talk about something else with history and
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get this back, get it back to where it is to now.
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So I, it was, it was really straighten up very strange, but
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it was telling to me like, you know, here we got Katie, which
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is due to the sport, like her dad showing 3 ladies the sport
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and introducing them. And you get back, you get to
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talking about history and coming up through that, how it connects
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to today, right? I thought, damn, that's pretty
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cool. It's kind of what we talked
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about sometimes on here. But but anyhow, I digress.
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OK, so Speaking of history, we're getting a lot of comments
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here as well. So thank you for your comments
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and please more comments like and subscribe if you haven't
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subscribed to the channel. Speaking of history on a on a a
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down note, today is the 20th anniversary of the Hendrick
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Motorsports plane crash. That was October 24th, 2004.
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You had a 10 people passing away, a bunch of members,
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obviously of the Hendrick Motorsports team and Ricky
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Hendrick. You had John Hendrick, his twin
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daughters, the the pilots, 10 people passing away.
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So Rick in in the NASCAR world, obviously, I'm guessing one of
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those moments where you knew exactly where you were and
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remembered or, or how you got the news.
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Do you remember that day? Yeah, I was home watching a
19:03
race. I was home at in in the living
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room watching the race when that thing when that thing was
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transpiring and like everybody else didn't know a thing as race
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is going on. But you know, when the race was
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ended, when they when the race ended and they did the they did
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the victory celebration with 48 car basically they didn't do a
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victory celebration. I'm like, well, all right, I
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think that answers that answers what we've been hearing, right?
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You don't not you don't not do a victory celebration.
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So that that was kind of telling in itself.
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And man, I don't know, you know, you, you live long enough,
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Charlie, you, you, you know, you lose people that you know, you
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know what I mean, acquaintances, friends, and you know, I don't
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know, it doesn't, it doesn't ever get easier doing that stuff
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or watching these folks or seeing it happen to folks.
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But it, you know, it, it, it's like looking back on that, I
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mean, the, the, the, the loss that took place, the numbers,
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just your sheer numbers, right? And all involved with basically
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one organization like that. And then the organization
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survived, right? It it, it, it survived and it
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came through, I mean. You know, a smaller, a smaller
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type organization, I don't know what it would have done.
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A large organization, you know, they keep thing just keep on
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digging, change names. But something like something
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like in Motorsports with Hendrick and we've been with
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any, any of the race teams. If it would have happened, it
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would have been devastated to all of us because we knew all
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the folks. Most of us knew everybody on
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that I'll fated plane, man. And you know, it's just like so
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many things in life when this happens, you don't, Yeah,
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there's no words. You don't know what the hell to
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say. All you do is, you know, deal
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with it. Go on.
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And it was just, I don't know, Charlie.
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It's just it's like so many days, man.
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Just a sad day in there sport, dude.
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Terribly sad day in there sport. And I remember Randy, man.
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Randy was, you know, you, you. I can walk up to Randy anywhere.
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He walked up me one time, Daytona.
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I didn't really know if I'm at him.
21:04
And he started talking, I'm like, who is this guy?
21:07
And then as time went on, I realized there was Randy Dorton.
21:09
And you know, you can't go up to him and talk to him all the
21:11
time. It's just just a cool, cool.
21:13
But anyhow, that's all personal experiences.
21:15
So that's, that's, that's just with me.
21:16
But like so many days, sad day, sad day.
21:20
Yeah, I have a bunch of people commenting on this.
21:22
Randy Dorton, the team's chief engine builder.
21:25
Obviously, as you mentioned, another one of the the victims
21:29
of that crash. OK, let's, let's try to be now,
21:32
Rick. We'll, we'll spin it positive.
21:34
OK, we'll spin it positive here. We'll, we'll talk about some
21:37
actual racing. All right, this past week, Las
21:40
Vegas, you said your daughter was there.
21:42
She enjoyed the race. Joey Logano enjoyed the race.
21:46
What do you think about just the fact that if you go back
21:49
essentially one week, Joey Logano is leaving the track and
21:54
he thinks he's not even in the playoffs at all.
21:56
He's out, He's not into the round of eight.
22:00
And then you have the news with Alex Bowman.
22:03
That happens later that night on a Sunday.
22:05
And then one week later, Joey Logano from out of the playoffs
22:09
is now already into Phoenix in the final four.
22:13
Crazy story. That's crazy dude.
22:17
Did you hear about Bowman to change?
22:18
Not change the subject, but sorted.
22:20
Did you hear about Bowman's got mad through his phone in the
22:22
pool? Did you hear that through the?
22:24
Phone in the pool and I didn't know this dude evidently the
22:27
phone dialed 911 because of the impact right and I didn't I
22:31
didn't know phones did that I knew the OnStar and your cars
22:34
would do that with impact. I didn't know phone would do
22:36
that but anyhow you know I we're all thinking the same thing how
22:40
in the hell is this guy he's not even in the championship right
22:43
he's not in the championship when they leave the racetrack in
22:46
the next week he's going to be in the final four.
22:49
How does this happen? How in the hell does this
22:52
happen? Well, you know what, man?
22:54
We were light, our car was lighted, and that's just the way
22:57
it is. That's just the way it works.
23:01
So I guess, I guess the argument is and I I have fun with all of
23:05
this. And by the way, thank you.
23:07
Matthew Brown gave us a nice little super thanks.
23:09
He's still talking about the the lawsuit.
23:11
But every time things like this happen, people question the
23:17
format. And I always say, I think
23:19
questioning the format is good. I think the healthy debate,
23:24
whether it's on this podcast, whether you're sitting at a bar
23:27
stool at a bar talking sports. It is kind of interesting that
23:31
Joey Logano for this year, it hasn't been a great season for
23:35
him. You think he's out and now
23:37
there's a very good chance. I mean, hell, at this point he's
23:41
the favorite because he's the only one that's in, right?
23:45
And so everybody's talking about the format again.
23:48
I know it's not the old days, it's not perfect, but for
23:52
excitement and storylines and to pick up the casual racing or
23:56
sports fan, I think it's fantastic.
23:59
Yeah, it is. And I don't.
24:02
Excuse me, Charlie. Excuse me, folks.
24:04
I, you know, man, everybody looks at Rick maths and thinks
24:08
old school, right? And old school, you know, and I,
24:11
I am about old school and a lot of things.
24:13
But I'm telling you, dude, I just don't know.
24:16
In today's world, in today's world where we've got a
24:20
multitude of media things available to us, we sit in our
24:23
couch, we sit down on the couch. We got, we got more choices than
24:27
we've ever had in our lives. I mean, it used to be, dude,
24:29
back before the 2000s, I mean, even the 90s when we exploded,
24:33
you sit down on the couch, right?
24:34
And you had your TV, that's what you watch whatever's on TV.
24:38
And most of them at those point at that time was still coming
24:41
off the 35 inch or 25 inch console TV starting to get to
24:45
the big screen, right? And so your, your choices are
24:48
very limited and, and, and, and racing was your one of your
24:52
passions and that's what you loved.
24:53
And then what happened? We all get older, the world
24:56
changes, the tensions, the attention span of everybody,
25:00
instead of being five hours for race is now 5 minutes till you
25:04
get up and go do something else. And you know, the, that, that's
25:08
what's happened. It, it's, it's, it's a culture
25:10
of our, of our country or our world.
25:13
And that's what that's what's created this, this monster that
25:17
they call the Chase, right? If we didn't have the Chase
25:20
right now, dude, there'd be some old school guys who would just
25:23
love it. But I'm afraid our numbers would
25:26
be would tank. You know, I'm just going to be
25:28
frank. Our numbers, I'm going all
25:30
right, here it is. Here it is the numbers.
25:33
If we didn't have the Chase right now in our world and our
25:36
environment that we're living in, the numbers would absolutely
25:39
tank in NASCAR. No way we would have good
25:42
numbers the way we're staying now.
25:43
No way we would be signing these new contracts.
25:47
No way with all these he's wanting to becoming their sport.
25:51
It's just I just don't, I don't think it's possible.
25:53
And I'm I'm, I'm as old school as they get guys, right?
25:56
And I'll be the first one to criticize anything I don't like.
25:59
But you've got to be realistic about where you were.
26:02
The glory is. Yeah.
26:03
And I was there during the glory years and they were great.
26:06
But you know, you had 150,000 people watch this because he
26:09
didn't have anything else to do other than cut your 35 inch TVTV
26:13
on and watch it. And we're it's, it's not that
26:16
way in 2024, right? So the criticisms of the chase,
26:20
I get it. Believe me, I understand with
26:22
all the old school people, I get it.
26:24
I I get it. But without this chase, I think
26:28
we're in trouble. Maybe not in trouble, but we
26:30
don't have the numbers we have. So case closed on that for me
26:34
dude. So what did you think of the
26:37
race? You have some fuel strategy
26:39
there. Logano said after the race that
26:41
he probably had a top five car, Obviously not the best car.
26:44
Christopher Bell had the best car.
26:47
And, and look, Christopher Bell is in a really good position now
26:50
to advance also. But, but watching him do his
26:54
interviews at the end there, it was like he finished in last
26:57
place, you know, and he had a, he had a great day, a great run,
27:01
But it just shows you how much obviously winning matters when
27:05
you get to the playoffs. I don't know.
27:07
I, I kind of like the strategy play.
27:09
I, I like the fact that you can take those risks And it, look,
27:12
you have a couple cautions. It probably doesn't work out,
27:14
but it clearly worked out. And Joey Logano is a veteran
27:18
driver and he has a veteran team, and they made the right
27:21
call and it worked. Yeah, I mean, with Christopher,
27:24
I know I picked up on what you talked about Christopher, it
27:26
seemed like his interviews like he finished last and all that
27:30
is, is an experience in time as he as he races more and he's in
27:34
these, these situations present themselves to him more often.
27:38
He will, he will those types of interviews will be softened.
27:43
OK, let's put it that way. I mean, all drivers go through
27:47
that and I don't know, man, it's just like you dominate and we
27:52
saw, we've seen that a lot this year.
27:53
We've seen it a lot the last few years.
27:55
Guys just dominating the race and to get down to the end, they
27:57
don't win, right. And you know, Bill has to
28:00
understand that and he and he will.
28:02
But you know, I, I don't know, man, if I, if I was, if I was
28:06
sitting on the pit box right now at these race tracks making
28:11
these calls, Lord of mercy, I would beat myself up all well, I
28:15
wouldn't because of my mindset. To hell with it.
28:17
You go on, you put it behind you.
28:18
But it's just, it's just it's gut wrenching what these guys
28:22
do, man, at these race tracks trying to figure this deal out.
28:24
It's it's always damn if you do, damned if you don't, right?
28:28
And it's only going to war. Here's the problem.
28:30
When you make all these guys make these decisions during the
28:33
race, and we're going to, we're going to make this happen and
28:35
we're going to Christopher Bell, we're going to win this race.
28:37
We got everybody done. We've done everything right.
28:39
That's all down the strategy, right, And it gets down the end
28:42
of the race, Charlie, when they drop a trek or fly.
28:44
What have we got? One winner?
28:47
We only got one guy that was right.
28:49
Only one guy made the right call.
28:52
Everybody else is walking out there, kick themselves in the
28:54
ass because, you know, we we made the wrong call today,
28:57
right? That's just the way.
28:58
That's another thing that's neat about our sport.
29:00
Oh, my foot's itching. Your foot ever itching.
29:03
You know, I've got a good deal, man.
29:05
I've never had stinky feet. I've got good teeth and stinky
29:08
feet, but I lose my hair. But other than that, I'm good.
29:11
But but honestly, you know that that that's you know, if you're
29:15
a football team, if you win, man, at least you got what 40
29:18
people, 50 players or whatever is real happy.
29:20
And you know, because forty of them get to do it was one team,
29:24
but it's one team with NASCAR. But it's one driver, dude and
29:27
one crew chief and one engineer. They you know, they make the
29:29
call and only one gets to only one gets to accept or reap the
29:34
benefits of making the right call that day.
29:35
And everybody else is mad and going home figuring about the
29:38
next week. So.
29:41
I love it. All right, everybody get your
29:42
questions in for Rick. We'll go another 20 minutes or
29:45
so here. How about just the fact a lot of
29:48
discussion the last couple years, if you go back to the to
29:51
the first year of the Next Gen. car when Joey Logano won.
29:54
But a lot of the narrative has been that Joey Logano, he's a
29:57
he's a big game driver, he's a big race driver, he's a playoff
30:02
driver and he's talked about that a lot.
30:03
Now I'm just wondering you were in those cars.
30:07
I think sometimes with athletes, it's not so much that that the
30:12
great athletes raise their game in the playoffs.
30:16
It's sometimes that that other athletes shrink a bit, right?
30:21
Like they feel the pressure, they get a little nervous.
30:24
And so I'm asking you, could you feel that difference when you
30:27
were racing? Could you feel the difference in
30:30
intensity? Were you more nervous, let's say
30:32
for a Cup race than a Bush race? Or when it was the Daytona 500,
30:35
when it was the crown jewel? Did you feel more nervous?
30:39
Do you think that affected your performance?
30:42
Is that affect guys? Performance.
30:43
I did. I did.
30:44
I didn't. I didn't.
30:45
What I mean by that, before the race, Charlie, you would feel
30:48
all those, all those emotions you're talking about.
30:50
Yeah. A driver feels every single one
30:52
of them. You go through.
30:53
You can't, you can't help but do that, right.
30:55
Especially nowadays with the media scrutiny and the podcast
30:59
scrutiny on every, every move that's made to these guys.
31:02
And you know, they have to live with that, But here was here was
31:04
my deal and I cannot speak for everybody else, but here was my
31:08
deal. When they dropped the green
31:10
flag, every bit of that shit in my mind went away.
31:14
Dude, it, it really did. When they dropped the green
31:17
flag, it's like a, to me, it was like my safe haven.
31:20
It was a place I went when they drop a green flag that never
31:24
changed from the time I was 15 years old, the first time in a
31:28
race car. The my mindset and what my
31:31
thoughts were and everything going on, it was one thing and
31:35
you know, and that was just how do you get to the checkered flag
31:38
the quickest? How do you beat this guy?
31:40
How do you outrun this guy, right lap after lap?
31:42
What changes do we make on pit stops?
31:44
What's going on? None of the other stuff ever
31:46
entered my mind during these races.
31:47
I don't know why, you know, and I can't say that other guys are
31:51
that way. I think maybe preparations.
31:53
So maybe some preparations for the event and then, you know, we
31:57
hear them talk about strategy for the race.
31:59
Now we hear, we hear, you know, the, the, the what the crew
32:02
chief and the driver and the team's talking about how they
32:04
showing the strategize for that race that day.
32:06
And they they stay on that page and they do that right.
32:09
But there there's more of that type of stuff that goes on than
32:12
it then then went on in my day, right, You know, wasn't really a
32:16
whole lot of strategy strategizing.
32:18
The biggest thing that would go on with the punch battles and
32:20
our day was that the guys would try to outdo the other guys.
32:23
They try to snooker them. They try to, what am I trying to
32:27
say? They try to do mind games,
32:29
right? Get on there, just do mind games
32:31
on guys. And it did work with some of
32:32
these people right before was they went, they went to Atlanta
32:36
and I forget who it was Earnhardt and Mark and two or
32:39
three other ones. And he went to Atlanta for a
32:41
test and they've been testing there two or three day or
32:44
whatever. They've been tested a good bit.
32:46
Mark Head and then Earnhardt shows up, unloads, goes out
32:49
there, runs about 5 or 610 laps faster than anybody's ever run,
32:55
comes in and loads it up and takes the car, right.
32:58
And from that test, from that test, they get a car.
33:05
A Mark gets a car from, I believe I'm right about this,
33:10
Robert Yates, right? He gets a Robert because they,
33:13
because Earnhardt came in there. It was so much faster than what
33:16
they had, right? They get a car, they go borrow a
33:19
car from Robert Yates, which is a fast race car and come back.
33:22
And then of course it doesn't work out.
33:25
But Earnhardt children's, they come in there, put 4 soft tires
33:28
on the car had real soft tires, ran, ran fast as practice laps
33:35
loaded up and went home. And from that it forced the six
33:38
team or whatever to go get a car from another race team to run
33:43
the race, to come back and run the race with, right?
33:45
I mean, that was one of the that was one of the best.
33:48
What's the word? I'm looking for the phrase, you
33:50
know, that man, they who do them, they who do bad, they who
33:54
do them bad. But that deal, right.
33:56
And I think I've got my facts right on the on the racetrack
33:59
and and Mark and Earnhardt, I'm pretty sure in the Yates car.
34:02
I'm pretty sure I'm right about that.
34:04
But those are the kind of things that would go on.
34:06
And then, you know, we're here today and now you're talking
34:09
about stepping it up and and for whatever reasons, you know, when
34:12
the guy knows on right, he's on. I mean, you know, and I don't
34:16
necessarily know that it's playoffs.
34:18
It's just the way the things work out that day.
34:20
But he is a very, very smart race car driver, OK?
34:25
And but he wasn't smart enough, you know, they weren't good
34:27
enough and they weren't smart enough to step it up to be in
34:31
the final eight, right, until somebody else had misfortune.
34:36
OK. I mean, if the other car had to
34:38
have been a couple pounds light, he wouldn't be in the thing.
34:40
He wouldn't be talking about the guy who would be in great
34:41
stepping it up. But, you know, I ain't so sure
34:44
to back to your question, Charlie, I'm not so sure that
34:47
what happens is the pressure of the situation makes you do
34:51
things wrong more than more than the pressure makes you do things
34:56
right. I really, truly think that's
34:58
what I see more than anything. He's he's the pressure just kind
35:02
of screws you up instead of helping you, right.
35:04
So we'll see. All right, let's, let's take a
35:07
look at the the standings here. So Logano is already in the
35:12
Phoenix. You have Christopher Bell in
35:14
second, Kyle Larson and William Byron.
35:17
So 2 Hendrick guys 3-4. And then on the bubble, Denny
35:21
Hamlin, Tyler Reddick, Ryan Blaney, Chase Elliott right now,
35:26
who's your four or anybody, anybody that's outside looking
35:30
in right now that you think has a really good shot to to get to
35:33
Phoenix? No, I don't know.
35:38
I will say if Blaney gets in hint Blaney or or I will make
35:43
this prediction, this only prediction I'll make so far if
35:45
Blaney gets in, Blaney and or Logano will win the
35:50
championship. OK, I will say that other than
35:53
that I can't you know if the 9 if the 9 car can, you know, keep
36:00
her crap together. I mean, the nine car was running
36:03
very, very good at Vegas band, right and got taken out with the
36:07
19 and he wasn't ready. Yeah, they they all got together
36:10
and and wrecked and I'm telling you that car was doing well.
36:14
I just don't think you at this point of season, I don't think
36:18
you can count. Nobody talks about it much, but
36:20
I just you know, I don't know, I guess he's my dark horse.
36:22
I guess Chase Elliott. Chase Elliott right now is my
36:25
dark horse for this and I I got reasons for that.
36:28
But you know, might be wrong about all that.
36:30
We'll see how it happens. I I don't know, of course, dude,
36:34
how you going to how you not going to say the five cars going
36:36
to win it not going to win it, right.
36:38
I mean, he kicks butt every frigging week.
36:40
He he out there doing his out. He's out there doing his thing.
36:43
So could be anybody, man. But I'm telling you right now,
36:46
the two I'm I'm going to say win it if they get in the in the in
36:49
the last race. So, well, we got two more races,
36:52
Charlie, to get to Phoenix. Homestead and then Martinsville.
36:56
OK. All right.
36:57
Well, we leave Homestead, I'll give you more predictions and
37:02
then when we leave Martinsville, I really get these predictions.
37:06
So it sounds like, do you think though that Penske, because you
37:10
mentioned Logano's already in Blaney won it last year, Logano
37:13
won it the year before. We all know it all comes down to
37:16
Phoenix. You just feel like Penske has
37:18
some type of advantage or, or knowledge with the setup at
37:21
Phoenix that gives them that tremendous advantage.
37:24
Because you Remember, Remember last year, obviously what Ross
37:27
Chastain won the race. But remember at the end of that
37:30
race, everybody thought the, the first car off Pit Rd. was going
37:34
to win and it was Larson, right? And Blaney still was able to
37:39
pass him. So do you feel like Penske just
37:42
has that? They have that secret info.
37:45
They they just got it. Until, until somebody outruns
37:48
Penske at Phoenix. That's that's the way I'm going
37:51
to go every year. I'll do that in March, I'll do
37:53
it in September. I'll say it, you know, in
37:55
December, whenever and when we go to Phoenix and and other
37:59
teams have a set up finally that outruns the Penske set up at
38:03
that racetrack, then you know, and here's the other thing,
38:06
Charlie, and the days in the back on days I wouldn't have
38:09
said that because you're changed, the cars changed, the
38:12
tire constructions changed. You know, every time he'd make a
38:14
change with rules, you know, it would throw out a setup if
38:17
somebody had it some racetrack with that's just the way it was
38:20
it. That's the way it is air sport.
38:21
But now with this car, you know, you come back to the same car
38:24
every time, the tires the same basically every time.
38:27
So you can more confidently save because this team ran this way
38:31
at this track a year ago. It's going to run this way
38:33
again. You can you say that with more
38:35
confidence there than you ever could in the past just because
38:38
nothing changes. And that's the reason I, I go
38:40
with the Penske deal now, not saying that another team can't
38:44
figure it out and hit on something that makes it work.
38:47
And you can bet your ass on one thing, Charlie.
38:49
All these teams are looking at that right now.
38:51
They're all these guys, these eight, right?
38:54
These eight, they are looking at, at Phoenix.
38:56
They are, they're, they, I guarantee you they're in there
38:59
running their, their simulators are doing their stuff.
39:01
You know, they're doing the second poster.
39:03
They still do those things, right?
39:05
They're running simulated laps at Phoenix right now as we
39:07
speak. They're doing that because they
39:09
know that's the race that wins the championship.
39:11
And they're, they're working their ass off on that.
39:13
And somebody could hit on something, right?
39:15
And if they go down there and one of those other teams hits on
39:18
something, then yeah, they got a shot at it.
39:22
Get your questions and comments in good time, Says we all forget
39:25
about Bell Derby driver 74, says Matt Kenseth is the last real
39:32
champion. That's his take.
39:34
We did have a question for you back here.
39:36
When was your last year racing? 02 OK.
39:40
So 2002, so this gentleman here, Frank T92 says, hey Rick, what
39:45
was the best opportunity that you got from 1999 on to hop in a
39:49
car and potentially win races? The I was just telling Sharon
39:54
about this. Somehow I know this come up
39:57
month ago, one of the races that I know that got away from me,
40:03
one of the best race cars I ever had other than Indy.
40:08
Other than Indy, right? Before the loss cylinder anyhow
40:13
Texas with Kale Yarborough, the 98 car Texas motor speed we we
40:19
had I guess, I guess the fat back was my crew chief at that
40:22
point. We hit on something right.
40:25
We hit on a little trend that evidently other teams that had
40:28
known about for a while and we hit on it in practice and it was
40:32
a spring deals basically going through stiffer springs, man,
40:35
they started that right and I had not qualified that well,
40:37
maybe 15th to 20th or 20th maybe.
40:40
I'm not sure where we were about mid pack.
40:43
And I knew in practice we kept changing this car and doing the
40:45
same thing to it. Man, it'd get better and better
40:47
and better and better. I'm like, my God, something's
40:50
wrong. I can't believe this.
40:51
They started the race and I'm like you, you know, I'd run 5 or
40:56
10 laps or whatever. I'm like man, oh man, oh man.
40:59
It's like taking your breath away.
41:00
It's almost like you just hold the thing wide open.
41:02
All we run the racer and those things had strong motors, Kales.
41:06
So to Bob Fischer, Tony Cola, those engine guys, they had the
41:10
best motors, man. But that thing would just haul
41:15
ass. Charlie, I'm telling you, I was
41:17
hauling ass. All I was doing was was just
41:20
watching and watching and trying to figure out how to stay out of
41:24
other people's stuff as I'd catch a car passing, catch a car
41:28
passing, right and just take my time.
41:30
I knew, you know, just take your time, dude.
41:33
Take your time, you know don't get in any mess, don't miss
41:36
shifts today, don't do anything wrong.
41:38
Pit Rd. you going to win this race by a lap right and before I
41:43
could get there, before I could get there, I'll never forget
41:46
going down in one and two. I look up and there's just go
41:49
down sideways, right. Something had happened.
41:51
I don't know what the deal was, who wrecked, how wrecked, who
41:54
wrecked who or what not. Then I'll just go down the
41:56
sideways and I got caught up in the wreck and tore the race car
41:59
up. So to answer car guys, car guys
42:05
question that was it same deal with Poconos or we had the same
42:08
deal with Poconos, that same car man, I felt like we had a shot
42:12
at a real shot up there and we lost the distributor,
42:14
distributor broke. So but anyhow.
42:17
OK, so and Frank T92 has another question.
42:21
He says the 1998 Daytona 500 as Dale Earnhardt and the field are
42:25
closing in on you at the end of the race.
42:27
What are you thinking? What is your team telling you?
42:29
So give people the scenario there, because I'm.
42:31
Not yeah, I'm madder in hell because we were with that group.
42:34
We're actually running with that group.
42:36
We had a pit stop and we were out there running with the route
42:40
and the fragging wheel came loose, Charlie, we didn't get it
42:43
tight or what not whatever. I had to come down pit Rd. and
42:49
tighten tighten the lug nuts up. I don't know if we change tires
42:52
or not, but anyhow, we got the wheels tight.
42:53
I went back out when I go back out on the racetrack course I'm
42:56
in front of I'm in front of the pack that this pack that I was
42:59
just with. I'm now in front of getting
43:02
ready to get lapped, getting ready to get rundown and I know
43:06
all this and they I I don't remember.
43:11
I I remember who was in the pack and I remember it was Bobby and
43:15
and Dale and I think it Mayfield guy and some couple of those.
43:20
So I look in the mirror and I see what's happening and dude, I
43:23
just come down the back straight away, you know, come to take the
43:26
one to go. And you know, I I really, I just
43:32
moved inside and and give them inside lane.
43:35
Tell you a story that never got out.
43:39
We actually, anyhow, we go into 3 and I'm on the bottom lane and
43:43
Dale goes by and he wins the race.
43:45
The caution comes out with one to go.
43:46
I forget what happened, but basically he was leading with
43:49
one to go and that that got him to win that race was over.
43:54
They come on the radio. They said, Rick, yeah, you got
43:57
to go to the red truck. I said what?
43:59
I said they want you and Richard or you and Butch.
44:02
Butch Bach was owner go to the red truck.
44:04
I'm like, all right, I'm like, what the hell?
44:07
They want me in the red truck Ford.
44:08
I go up in the red truck and there's Mike Kelton and there's
44:10
Gary Nelson and Gary's about half pissy at me, man.
44:13
Just you know what I mean? I'm like, what's going on?
44:15
He said, Rick, he said that last lap of that race, were you
44:20
intentionally trying to help Earnhardt?
44:21
And I said, what do you mean intentionally trying to help
44:23
him? Well, the moves you made, it was
44:25
obvious that you you were trying to help Earnhardt win that race.
44:29
I said, Gary, what the hell are you talking about?
44:31
No trying to help anybody win the race.
44:33
I held my life. I held my line.
44:36
Well, why did you pull over and let the let them all go?
44:40
I said, dude, I was with this pack leading.
44:44
I was with this leading pack, right?
44:47
Just a few laps before this, the caution comes.
44:49
I mean, my wheel comes loose. I got to tighten it up.
44:51
I go back on the track and now they caught me the last lap, put
44:54
me a lap down. What the hell are you talking
44:56
about? Well, it's obvious.
44:57
You try, you try to help him in and blah, blah, blah.
45:01
At this point I'm starting to get pissed off at Gary.
45:04
I'm like, what do you what the Hell's the matter with you,
45:05
dude? You know what I mean?
45:07
We're going to get in a fight. Are you going to get your ass
45:09
whipped right here in this truck today?
45:11
You keep this up because I'm mad anyhow, right?
45:14
I'm already bad and and I remember saying I said here's
45:19
Butch. I said I asked him what he's
45:20
told me. He said don't let them guys.
45:22
You try to run it hard, run it hard, which he didn't have to
45:24
tell me that that's what I'm going to do anyhow, right.
45:27
So anyhow, Gary has a tape somehow or another.
45:32
He has a tape or something video, and it's ATV in the red
45:35
truck. He says, all right, you're
45:36
telling me you want to turn 3, Rick, you're going into turn 3.
45:40
Earnhardt's coming up on you, and then he's going by you.
45:43
You're going to tell me that you stayed down in the white line
45:46
all through three, the floor four, and not moved up to block
45:49
anybody. I said, yeah, that's what I'm
45:52
telling you, right? He puts the videotape in, right?
45:56
It shows me going through 3 or 4 right on the frigging white
45:59
line, not moving up, not blocking anybody, right?
46:03
And we come back and it comes back to the end of the tape or
46:07
the checkered flag. And I didn't, I didn't do
46:08
anything wrong. Nothing wrong.
46:10
Mike Hilton says, I think that's the end of this discussion,
46:14
guys. We'll see y'all next week,
46:16
right? And I think Mike's pretty pissed
46:19
off at Gary at that point too. He's not sure what's going on.
46:22
But I had a couple other choice for choice words for Gary Nelson
46:26
right as I was reading. But I I never did figure that
46:29
out, dude, right. I mean, I never had any problems
46:32
with Gary Nelson. Never never had a problem with
46:34
him before that, never had a problem with him after that.
46:36
But the problem was he was, he was about 1/2 a half a Scotia
46:42
getting his ass whipped or getting one good shot on the
46:44
side. He did because I'd had enough
46:46
that day, right? And it was ridiculous,
46:48
absolutely ridiculous. So I don't know.
46:50
I don't know what the hell the deal was.
46:51
I don't he didn't want her hard to win or thought I was doing
46:54
something wrong, but I didn't. So it was good for me, good for
46:56
me. Yeah, as Grand Marquis says,
46:59
that's a great story and it is. OK, let's let's end on this.
47:02
I have a meeting, so we got to get out a little bit earlier.
47:05
I know you're a baseball fan. You got the Braves hat on.
47:07
I know you're mad that the Braves aren't in it, but do you
47:10
like big market, big paycheck baseball?
47:13
Do you like, I mean, it's iconic teams, Yankees, Dodgers.
47:17
Do you like it? Do you have a prediction?
47:20
Charlie, we got to give the devil's due at least once a
47:23
decade, right? All the procrastinators.
47:27
Oh, hell. What that What was that word?
47:29
Look that word up, everybody. Procrastinators.
47:31
Prognosticators. Yeah.
47:33
Anyhow, we got to give the devil's due once a decade.
47:36
You know, they all the baseball gods, They all, all the gods
47:40
talk about the big market people.
47:42
They got to have the Dodgers. They got to have the Yankees.
47:44
We don't want the Cardinals. We don't want the Braves.
47:47
We want Dodgers and Yankees. And sometimes you can throw in
47:50
the Red Sox, right? Yeah.
47:51
Throw them in every now and then.
47:53
You get the Dodgers and the Yankees together.
47:56
You got this whole group of elite media across the country
48:00
that just loves this, right. So I'll give them that once a
48:03
decade. I ain't going to watch it.
48:04
I'm not going to watch that crap every year.
48:06
No, you know, I'm not going to watch the Dodgers and the
48:08
Yankees every year playing in the World Series.
48:10
No, but I will give it to them right now.
48:12
And they, they get all kinds of publicity.
48:14
They, you know, they're the highest spenders in our leagues
48:17
and all that. So that's good.
48:18
We'll we'll give a bet. They deserve this one for the
48:20
decade. But no more, Charlie.
48:22
No more. OK, I'll just give my
48:25
prediction, but it's more what I want.
48:27
See, it's weird because the Yankees won so much when I was
48:30
growing up. I got tired of them, but now it
48:33
is kind of like they haven't won one in 15 years, which is a long
48:36
time. So I wouldn't be bothered if the
48:37
Yankees won the World Series. But for me, being a guy who
48:42
covered the Cardinals, Tommy Edmond, I'm a big fan of Tommy
48:45
Edmond. Jack Flaherty was also a
48:47
Cardinal. Now the Yankees have Luke
48:49
Weaver, but Tommy Edmonds, a fantastic guy, great guy.
48:53
He was NLCSMVP so I'm going to say Dodgers in seven because I
48:57
want Tommy Edmond to get a ring. Yeah, I'll go.
49:01
I'll go that way just because of Freddie.
49:04
Freddie Freeman, man, he's our guy.
49:06
He was Atlanta Braves for years, you know.
49:08
So we're going to pull for Freddie just because he was a
49:11
Brave and now he's on the Dodgers and they're in the
49:15
National League and I'm going to tell you the truth, I don't like
49:19
either one of them. Well, I do.
49:20
I don't hate them. I just don't.
49:23
They don't give me any spirit, Charlie.
49:25
They don't give me any vibes, man.
49:27
You give me you give me the Cardinals when they're winning,
49:31
right? You give me the Cubs when
49:33
they're winning, man, for some reason.
49:36
And I was a Yankees fan growing up, I'd get the paper and open
49:38
up the newspaper and look at the standings and see where the
49:40
Yankees were were winning or what their deal was when I was a
49:44
little boy. And that's what was so weird.
49:46
And and the Dodgers deal. You know, the, the guy, the,
49:49
the, the big thing for me and the Dodgers has got who's that
49:51
guy used to his eyes up. He do like that when he threw
49:55
the pitch. Remember that guy?
49:57
He was well, Fernando. Yeah, that's it.
50:00
He just. Passed away Fernando Valenzuela
50:02
just. Died.
50:04
OK, I'm sorry to hear that. I tell you what brought that up,
50:07
Charlie. I saw a picture of him the other
50:08
day or something. I saw a picture of him with his
50:11
eyes up. But I'm like, gosh, I forgot
50:13
about that dude. What?
50:13
What? What the deal is so.
50:15
Well, OK. All right.
50:16
He just passed. It was either yesterday or the
50:18
day before the news cycles. I think it was the last couple
50:21
days. OK, well, he it was such a cool
50:24
deal to watch him, man, it's such a cool deal.
50:26
But I will say this, Yankees and Yankees and and Dodgers are good
50:30
for baseball. Those two teams playing for the
50:32
World Series. It's it's good for the sport,
50:34
right? It's just like Earnhardt.
50:36
Earnhardt wins the race. It was good for our sport.
50:38
What's the same way in baseball, those teams?
50:40
So I I'll give, I'll give them credit for that, Charlie.
50:44
I agree. I like it about once every 10
50:46
years. That makes sense.
50:48
And then we'll do it again in 2034.
50:50
Let's end on this though, because Katie Mass did weigh in
50:53
and she said I'm going to add that word to the rictionary.
50:56
I think she was talking about the prognostication word.
51:00
Yeah, they're the thing about family has a dictionary
51:03
rictionary. Yeah, they do have that.
51:06
Dude, when you're trying to think of something, you throw it
51:08
out there. You know you've heard that word
51:10
before, but you're not smart enough to get it all put
51:12
together. So you just just throw it out
51:13
there. People understand what you're
51:15
saying for sure. Exactly.
51:16
Right. Just look at politics.
51:18
Just look at politics. We know what the hell they're
51:21
saying. No, we don't have a clue what
51:22
they're saying about. Let's not go down that road, OK,
51:25
Charles? Next.
51:27
Show we'll do what we'll do, maybe after the election.
51:30
Yeah, that'll be fun. That'll be fun.
51:32
We gots to go. Rick, thank you so much.
51:35
That was great. We covered a ton of topics.
51:38
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51:39
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51:46
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51:48
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