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Sean O'Connell Show w/Bill Riley - Full POD 4-16-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 1: The two the two thousand times Got Champions look sampion
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Speaker 1: character so like safe. This is a special edition of
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Speaker 1: The Sean O'Connell Show, hosted by Bill Riley on Utah's
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Speaker 1: number one sports talk and your Home of the Utes
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Speaker 7: No.
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Speaker 1: Here's three time Utah Sports Broadcaster of the Year and
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Speaker 1: Voice of the Utes.
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Speaker 2: Bill Riley.
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Speaker 3: Hey there, good morning, Welcome in to a special edition
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Speaker 3: of the shao'condall Show. Bill Riley sitting in today for
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Speaker 3: OC who is apparently in Belfast doing some fighting stuff.
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Speaker 2: So good to be with you on this Thursday. Oh boy, We've.
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Speaker 3: Got so much to talk about in so little time
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Speaker 3: to do it today. Hey, thank you for making me
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Speaker 3: part of your day. I love being back in the
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Speaker 3: air chair today. It's so good to be with you
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Speaker 2: Point one FM.
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Speaker 3: Thank you to Sean O'Connell for allowing me to sit
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Speaker 3: in the air chair today, and it's good to be
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Speaker 3: with you on this Thursday.
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Speaker 2: If if the mood strikes you.
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Speaker 3: Today and you would love to talk to me, we
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Speaker 3: have got the text line open to you at eight
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Speaker 3: seven seven three five threes zero seven hundred eight seven
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Speaker 3: seven three five threes zero seven hundred will get you
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Speaker 3: in touch with me today. Over the next three hours
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Speaker 3: here on the radio, we will talk to you about
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Speaker 3: a variety of things, including spring football with the University
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Speaker 3: of Utah. They wrap it up this week. Morgan Scalley's guys.
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Speaker 3: No spring football game. They are doing a fan day
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Speaker 3: coming up on Saturday. They have opted to do an
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Speaker 3: extra day of practice and get some work in, So
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Speaker 3: we will talk about that today and expectations for the
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Speaker 3: upcoming season. Yeah, I know it's way too early. I
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Speaker 3: know it's one hundred and forty days until kickoff, but
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Speaker 3: we're gonna do it anyway today here on the program.
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Speaker 3: So we'll mix in a little Utah football today, and
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Speaker 3: I'll give you three names, three names coming out of
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Speaker 3: springball that I've heard great things about that are gonna
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Speaker 3: have a big impact this fall with Utah football. I'll
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Speaker 3: give you those coming up in just a bit. And
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Speaker 3: you guys can, of course interact with me if you
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Speaker 3: have a Utah football question or anything that may be
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Speaker 3: on your mind today. Eight seven seven three five three
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Speaker 3: zero seven hundred. That is the text line. That is
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Speaker 3: how you reach me. I will read them on the
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Speaker 3: air or get you a response off the air. So
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Speaker 3: fire up the text line today. So some Utah football. Oh,
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Speaker 3: the transferred portal is popping right now. Everybody is doing
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Speaker 3: their shopping and they're visiting, and they're interviewing, and they're
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Speaker 3: feeling out right now in college basketball and the men's
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Speaker 3: and inside of things. Utah has scheduled many visits and
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Speaker 3: they have got lots of people that have come through.
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Speaker 3: They're doing their due diligence. B why you has gotten
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Speaker 3: some commitments. They are doing their due diligence. And some
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Speaker 3: of the guys that have left those programs have found
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Speaker 3: new homes. We'll tell you about one in particular that
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Speaker 3: played for Utah the last couple of years that's got
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Speaker 3: a pretty big, brand new home that will be coming
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Speaker 3: up of the program.
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Speaker 2: Today.
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Speaker 3: The jazz season is over, thankfully. It was a long, arduous,
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Speaker 3: difficult season. It was not a fun season. I watched
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Speaker 3: a little bit of jazz basketball. Gonna gonna lie to
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Speaker 3: you here. It's not like the old days when I
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Speaker 3: did this show every single day and I would watch
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Speaker 3: jazz basketball beginning to end. We just I don't do
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Speaker 3: that anymore. I don't have time for that anymore. And
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Speaker 3: to be very fair, the product is terrible. It's not
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Speaker 3: good at all. But there is hope, or is their hope.
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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that today with you. Are you excited
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Speaker 3: about the off season? How important is this off season?
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Speaker 3: We'll get to all of that stuff on the program today.
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Speaker 3: My good friend Gordon Chiaza will be in studio beginning
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Speaker 3: at eleven thirty today. We'll talk for an hour about
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Speaker 3: the jazz and the playoffs. I'm sure Gordy will have
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Speaker 3: a list, maybe some restaurant recommendations for us.
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Speaker 2: He always he's a man about town.
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Speaker 3: Gordon Chiasa and we will hear from Gordy coming up
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Speaker 3: in about twenty five minutes or so. The hockey season,
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Speaker 3: the regular season comes to an end tonight. Oh what
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Speaker 3: a fun season it's been for Mammoth Hockey. I've got
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Speaker 3: to say. They've got the regular season finale downtown tonight
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Speaker 3: against the Saint Louis Blues. My friend Kevin invited me
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Speaker 3: to go to the game tonight, and I could not
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Speaker 3: go to the game tonight because I've got a busy
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Speaker 3: day and they're dropping the puck early today. It's like
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Speaker 3: a five to thirty start time downtown, so I couldn't
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Speaker 3: make it. Kevin, if you're listening, I don't know if
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Speaker 3: you're listening or not, thank you for the invite. I
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Speaker 3: can't make it down tonight. But if you have tickets
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Speaker 3: for a playoff game, Kevin, I'll be happy to go
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Speaker 3: down and watch playoff hockey. There is nothing like playoff.
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Speaker 3: It is different level, it is next level.
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Speaker 8: Hey.
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Speaker 3: NBA playoff basketball is good, but not really in the
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Speaker 3: early rounds as much. Every round, every moment, every second
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Speaker 3: of NHL Stanley Cup playoff hockey is unbelievable and off
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Speaker 3: the charts.
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Speaker 2: And the Mammoth are in the playoffs.
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Speaker 3: They are facing the Golden Knights of Las Vegas and
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Speaker 3: we just got word from Mammoth PR just a little
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Speaker 3: while ago. Game one of that series in Vegas will
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Speaker 3: be Sunday. Don't have a start time yet, that is
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Speaker 3: to be determined, but the Mammoth and the Golden Knights
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Speaker 3: will play Sunday in Vegas at Tea Mobile Arena. OH,
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Speaker 3: playoff hockey is coming to Salt Lake City. How great
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Speaker 3: is that. My buddy Mike fold To, the play by
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Speaker 3: play voice on radio of the Mammoth, is going to
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Speaker 3: join us a little bit later in the program. Today,
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Speaker 3: we'll talk some Utah football as well with Jordan Wynn,
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Speaker 3: my friend and former Utah quarterback. We'll see Jordan's thoughts
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Speaker 3: on spring football and his expectations with more Rgan Scaley
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Speaker 3: and Colton Swan and Kevin mcgiven and the return of
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Speaker 3: Devin Dan Pier and way Shawn Parker and Bird Ficklin
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Speaker 3: and the rest of that team. We'll talk to Jordan
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Speaker 3: a little bit about the upcoming season, his expectations and
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Speaker 3: all that good stuff. So that'll be coming up. Those
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Speaker 3: are my guests on the program today. We'll have a
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Speaker 3: So that's what we've got for you today and again,
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Speaker 3: would love to hear from you on the old text
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Speaker 3: line today. Hit me up at eight seven seven three
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Speaker 3: five three zero seven hundred. That's eight seven seven three
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Speaker 3: five three zero seven hundred. It could be Utah football.
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Speaker 3: It could be Utah basketball. That could be the end
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Speaker 3: of the Jazz season. It could be I don't know,
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Speaker 3: Mammoth hockey. If you want to talk some hockey playoffs,
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Speaker 3: NHL Stanley Cup playoff action. The NFL draft begins a
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Speaker 3: week from today. Utah's gonna have some guys. They are
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Speaker 3: probably two first round guys taken. Spencer Fano and Caleb
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Speaker 3: Blomeu are both likely first round pick. Spencer's got a
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Speaker 3: range of anywhere from about probably the sixth pick, maybe
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Speaker 3: the I don't think he'd go as high as the
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Speaker 3: third pick, but he's got a range of anywhere from
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Speaker 3: about six to twenty. Caleb Blomo's probably gonna be taken
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Speaker 3: in somewhere in that twenty to thirty range. But both
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Speaker 3: those guys are likely to be first round picks. I
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Speaker 3: was lucky enough on my podcast, The Crimson Corner, which
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Speaker 3: drops today wherever you get podcasts, Apple, iTunes, Spotify, wherever
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Speaker 3: you get your podcast, The Crimson Quarner with Bill Riley.
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Speaker 3: Give it a listen, downloaded, share it with friends, give
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Speaker 3: us a good rating. I caught up yesterday with former
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Speaker 3: University of Utah linebacker Devin Lloyd of course, Devin was
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Speaker 3: the first round draft choice in the twenty twenty two
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Speaker 3: NFL draft and he is now a member of the
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Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers. It's a great conversation and a good listen,
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Speaker 3: so if you get a chance, give it a listen
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Speaker 3: to the Crimson Quarter. But he talked a little bit
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Speaker 3: about how he felt like both Lomu and Fano as
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Speaker 3: he watches from Afar, are gonna be good reads and
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Speaker 3: good additions to Utah too. I'm sorry NFL rosters when
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Speaker 3: they make those NFL jumps this year. He says, Utah
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Speaker 3: guys are just better prepared for the NFL because they're
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Speaker 3: coach like they're going to the NFL when they're in college.
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Speaker 3: They're just better equipped for it. So it's a good
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Speaker 3: listen if you will go find the Crimson Quarter podcast
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Speaker 3: share it with friends. This week's special guest will be
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Speaker 3: none other than Devin Lloyd. Next week, Zamee Beatles is
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Speaker 3: going to join us and we'll have a draft insider
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Speaker 3: joining us as well on the Crimson Quarter podcast, so
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Speaker 3: we will go in that direction.
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's where we're at. That's what we've got
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Speaker 2: going here today.
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Speaker 3: I am so glad to be sitting here talking to
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Speaker 3: you guys here in Shawn's air chair.
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Speaker 2: If you want to listen in or watch in on YouTube,
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Speaker 3: thousand one blowtorch or online or any of that good stuff.
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Speaker 2: Would love to have you be part of it today.
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Speaker 3: And you know, if you can make three hours great,
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Speaker 3: if you can make thirty minutes great, whatever it can be.
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Speaker 3: And if you can't make the whole show, whether it's me,
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Speaker 3: whether it's Sean, whether it's Spence, you can find all
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Speaker 3: the podcasts on demand at ESPN seven hundred sports dot
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Speaker 3: com or on the ESPN seven hundred mobile apps. So
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Speaker 3: I think that sets the table pretty well for us today.
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Speaker 3: Gordie'll be in in about twenty minutes to talk some
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Speaker 3: NBA basketball, give us his list of the day, talk playoffs,
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Speaker 3: talk Jazz off season, and all that good stuff.
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Speaker 2: So we've got that coming up. And again, if you
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Speaker 2: guys want to chat with me.
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Speaker 3: You've got questions about Utah spring football, the upcoming season,
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Speaker 3: any of that stuff, Utah transfer, portal, college basketball, jazz
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Speaker 3: Mammoth draft, any of it.
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Speaker 2: Hit me up.
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Speaker 3: Text line is open to you at eight seven seven
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Speaker 3: three five three zero seven hundred. That again, eight seven
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Speaker 3: seven three five three zero seven hundred. We'll begin with
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Speaker 3: Utah spring football today. We'll get into some other stuff
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Speaker 3: as we go here. Springball wraps up this week. It's
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Speaker 3: been it's been a good month of football for Morgan Scalley.
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Speaker 3: He met with the media the other day. You probably
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Speaker 3: heard some of the clips on Spence's show or in
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Speaker 3: this space. They're up online two at ESPN seven out
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Speaker 3: at sports dot com. Good energy, no major issues as
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Speaker 3: of at least the other day. The injury bug really
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Speaker 3: hadn't bit Utah in the spring, so Scally and his
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Speaker 3: crew are very happy with the progress of where Utah football.
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Speaker 2: Went this spring. They've got the fan Day coming up
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Speaker 2: on Saturday.
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Speaker 3: It'll be at the Spence ecles Field House Saturday afternoon
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Speaker 3: from about four thirty to six o'clock.
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Speaker 2: It's called the twenty two. For you fan Day.
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Speaker 3: It'll be a chance for fans to meet with all
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Speaker 3: the players and all the staff. They're gonna have a
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Speaker 3: kid zone up there too, so if your kids are
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Speaker 3: twelve and under, they can go through some drills and
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Speaker 3: some activities with some of the Utah coaching staff.
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Speaker 2: So that's up there as well.
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Speaker 3: But it's been a good spring event wise, nothing major
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Speaker 3: really to report. It's been a lot of offensive install
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Speaker 3: and the limited time I've been able to see practice
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Speaker 3: this spring, it's been good. What I've liked is the
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Speaker 3: energy and the vibes around it. It's all very positive.
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Speaker 3: It's all very good when you talk to the players
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Speaker 3: after practice or if I bump into them at the facility.
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Speaker 3: Everybody's really in a good space right now, which is
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Speaker 3: good news. So I think it's gone well this spring.
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Speaker 3: Does that mean it's gonna go well in the fault, No,
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Speaker 3: it doesn't. One does not equal the other. But this
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Speaker 3: program's in good shape. It's what I've told people all
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Speaker 3: the time that you know, you know, there was a
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Speaker 3: lot of there was a lot of concern.
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Speaker 2: Whenever there's change, there's concern.
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Speaker 3: And you know, when the guy that ran the program
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Speaker 3: that's widely respected and viewed as one of the best
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Speaker 3: coaches in college football, steps down and then takes another job.
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Speaker 3: People are already, oh my gosh, what's going on. Well,
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Speaker 3: the plan was in place for succession, and the man
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Speaker 3: that was always planning on taking over the program had
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Speaker 3: been working at this for years, plotting and planning and
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Speaker 3: getting things ready to go behind the scenes, because that's
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Speaker 3: the guy he is. He is a plotter, he is
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Speaker 3: a planner. He is a guy that's very detail oriented.
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Speaker 3: So this didn't come as any real surprise, and he
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Speaker 3: knew what he wanted to do when he stepped in.
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Speaker 3: There was great talent in the program. Did Utah lose
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Speaker 3: some players, of course they did. Everybody loses players in
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Speaker 3: the portal, but they also backfield, backfield with good talent
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Speaker 3: as well.
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Speaker 2: And I think you're beginning to see that now.
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Speaker 3: I think you're beginning to see some of that stuff
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Speaker 3: with people around college football. There was that initial in January,
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Speaker 3: December and January, Oh my goodness, the sky is falling.
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Speaker 3: And now that people have beginning begun to check in, ESPN, CBS,
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Speaker 3: a lot of these places have checked in with Utah,
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Speaker 3: they're beginning to see Oh wait a minute, nothing has changed.
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Speaker 3: Same program, different faces, a little bit different energy, but
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Speaker 3: the same commitment to toughness and physicality. And oh, by
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Speaker 3: the way, there's talent. There's top tier quarterback talent. The physicality,
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Speaker 3: the defense is still in place, and you're beginning to
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Speaker 3: see when people report on and talk about Utah football.
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Speaker 3: So of that's coming around on my podcast, The Crimson
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Speaker 3: Corner every week. Really for the last couple of months,
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Speaker 3: I've identified something called one of those Way Too Early
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Speaker 3: Top twenty fives. Everybody does them. Everybody puts them out
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Speaker 3: every media outlet because they're fun to do because you
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Speaker 3: just put a little bit of thought in it, and
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Speaker 3: then you rank teams, and then everybody talks about it.
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Speaker 3: It's great aggregation for social media and talk shows and
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Speaker 3: podcasts and things like that.
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Speaker 8: Well.
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Speaker 3: ESPN's Mark Slaybaugh, who's a very good college football writer.
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Speaker 3: He put out his Way Too Early Top twenty five
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Speaker 3: literally the day after the National Championship game in mid January.
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Speaker 3: And when he put out his Way Too Early Top
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Speaker 3: twenty five, things had not completely settled in college athletics
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Speaker 3: and everything at Utah was brand new. But Schleaybaugh's a
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Speaker 3: smart guy and he had Utah inside of his way
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Speaker 3: too early top twenty five. He had him in at
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Speaker 3: number twenty five. He said, there's a lot of questions.
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Speaker 3: Kyle Whittingham is gone news coaching staff. You know, you
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Speaker 3: lose some players in the portal. But he still had
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Speaker 3: them within his way too early top twenty five at
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Speaker 3: number twenty five. And I have said all along this spring,
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Speaker 3: I think Utah probably the sweet spot for Utah in
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Speaker 3: these way too early top twenty fives, and the right
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Speaker 3: place for them is somewhere in that fifteen to twenty range.
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Speaker 3: But I'm a little bit closer to the program. I'm
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Speaker 3: able to see what goes on on a day in
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Speaker 3: and day out basis. I'm able to see the behind
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Speaker 3: the scenes stuff that people that write for national publications
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Speaker 3: aren't on the ground and don't see. And I saw
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Speaker 3: that there was a smooth transition of power. I saw
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Speaker 3: in many ways there were upgrades in different areas. The
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Speaker 3: general manager spot was certainly an upgrade when they brought
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Speaker 3: on Joe Dorazio and the players and the vibes and
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Speaker 3: what they've done and how it fits. I've been able
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Speaker 3: to get kind of a front row, behind the scene
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Speaker 3: seat for what the new plan is under the Morgan
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Speaker 3: Scalley era. But a lot of people didn't see that
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Speaker 3: from the outside. But now as spring football has played
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Speaker 3: its way out, as people are beginning to make phone
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Speaker 3: calls and see reports coming out of Salt Lake City,
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, people are again going, Okay, wait
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Speaker 3: a minute, Maybe the the sky didn't fall, Maybe things
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Speaker 3: have balanced out. Maybe Utah's at a pretty good position,
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Speaker 3: which I believe they are. Again, we're sitting here in
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Speaker 3: mid April. It's April to sixteenth. We're one hundred and
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Speaker 3: forty days away from kickoff. But I think people are
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Speaker 3: beginning to realize the programs in good shape and the
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Speaker 3: drama of the coaching change has died down. So Mark
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Speaker 3: Schlaybaugh two days ago put out his way too early
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Speaker 3: top twenty five two point zero. And where did he
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Speaker 3: have Utah in this way too early top twenty five
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Speaker 3: two point zero. Well, he had them at number eighteen,
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Speaker 3: up seven spots from where he had them before. Has
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Speaker 3: Utah played a game? No, they haven't. Well, what they
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Speaker 3: have done since Mark's first one is go through the
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Speaker 3: transfer portal. They've made all their coaching hires and additions
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Speaker 3: and I'm sure Schley Bo because he's a smart guy,
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Speaker 3: has talked to some people. Maybe he's even talked to
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Speaker 3: some of the coaching staff and found out, oh, okay,
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Speaker 3: things have not changed that much. Culture is still in
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Speaker 3: place and things are good. So I think you're going
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Speaker 3: to begin to see that a little bit more here
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Speaker 3: as spring football winds down, not only here in Salt
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Speaker 3: Lake City but around the country, that when people start
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Speaker 3: to talk a little bit about Utah, they begin to
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Speaker 3: realize the program is still in really good shape.
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Speaker 2: It's a good read.
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Speaker 3: Mark does his homework, and he had I think he
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Speaker 3: had five big twelve teams in his top twenty five,
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Speaker 3: his way too early top twenty five two point zero.
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Speaker 3: He had Texas Tech at number eight, they were at
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Speaker 3: number seven. He had BYU at number twelve, they were
18:34
Speaker 3: at number eleven. He had Utah at number eighteen, they
18:38
Speaker 3: were at twenty five. He actually had TCU in his
18:41
Speaker 3: way too early top twenty five, which I hadn't seen
18:45
Speaker 3: really TCU in very many places. He had them at
18:49
Speaker 3: twenty and now they're at twenty three. And he also
18:51
Speaker 3: had Houston. Houston's been kind of a trendy pick for
18:55
Speaker 3: that way too. Early top twenty five by a lot
18:58
Speaker 3: of people. I think Willie Fritz has done a really
18:59
Speaker 3: good in a little bit of a soft schedule last year.
19:02
Speaker 3: But I think they're gonna be pretty good. He had
19:04
Speaker 3: them at number twenty four. They weren't ranked in his
19:06
Speaker 3: first way too early top twenty five, I would I
19:09
Speaker 3: would probably smile if I was doing it. I'll probably
19:11
Speaker 3: do a way too early top twenty five at some
19:13
Speaker 3: point in time after spring football settles in and we
19:16
Speaker 3: know what the rosters are going to look like for fall,
19:18
Speaker 3: but I would probably put Arizona in and probably sub
19:23
Speaker 3: TCU out. Arizona brings back a lot, including their starting
19:28
Speaker 3: quarterback TCUs having to find a new starting quarterback because
19:31
Speaker 3: Josh Hoover left and he's now playing for Kirk Signetti
19:34
Speaker 3: at the University of Indiana.
19:36
Speaker 2: So that's that's kind of that.
19:39
Speaker 3: Let me give you, you know, based on conversations I've
19:42
Speaker 3: had and some practice I've been able to watch this spring,
19:46
Speaker 3: three names to keep an eye on heading to fall camp.
19:49
Speaker 3: Had three guys that I think could be real impact
19:51
Speaker 3: players this fall for the University of Utah. One of
19:56
Speaker 3: them is a returning player. One of them is a
19:59
Speaker 3: player that's got collegiate experience, but he's a new face,
20:03
Speaker 3: and one of them is a completely new face to
20:05
Speaker 3: college football. I'll start with that guy, and I'll mention
20:09
Speaker 3: him only because and I was probably gonna mention him anyway,
20:12
Speaker 3: But when Morgan Scalley name checked him the other day
20:15
Speaker 3: after practice, that just kind of backed up all the
20:18
Speaker 3: intel that I've kind of been hearing and seeing and
20:20
Speaker 3: things like that. That's Kelvin Obot, the five star offensive lineman,
20:25
Speaker 3: young man from Fruitland, Idaho, the guy that played in
20:27
Speaker 3: high school for Jordan Gross. He's had a good spring,
20:31
Speaker 3: but Morgan said this the other day. We expected him to.
20:34
Speaker 3: But when you come in and back it up, that
20:37
Speaker 3: means something. And Kelvin's a good football player, and Morgan
20:41
Speaker 3: backed that up. I would be very surprised if he
20:43
Speaker 3: didn't have a very positive impact on that Utah offensive
20:47
Speaker 3: line come fall. The returning player that's got really good
20:52
Speaker 3: buzz this spring, and he's been name checked a few
20:56
Speaker 3: times by both his head coach and offensive coordinator, is
20:59
Speaker 3: Daniel Bray. We know who running back one is for Utah.
21:03
Speaker 3: That's way Sean Parker. But Daniel Bray was a young
21:06
Speaker 3: man who was a true freshman a year ago, and
21:09
Speaker 3: we caught him in glimpses last year, but when he
21:11
Speaker 3: finally got on the field, he's got juice. He's got
21:15
Speaker 3: a little get up and go, and for his size,
21:18
Speaker 3: he's also got some toughness. He catches it well, he
21:21
Speaker 3: runs it well, he's got burst. Would not surprise me
21:25
Speaker 3: in any way, shape or form. If Daniel Bray didn't
21:29
Speaker 3: have a huge impact and role on this University of
21:33
Speaker 3: Utah offense coming up, this fault wouldn't surprise me either
21:36
Speaker 3: if he was running back two when it's all said
21:38
Speaker 3: and done, And the third.
21:41
Speaker 2: Name, I'm gonna tell you to keep an eye on.
21:43
Speaker 3: He is a guy that when I've gone out to practice,
21:46
Speaker 3: I always feel like I see him making a player two.
21:50
Speaker 3: And I know that his defensive coordinator is a big fan.
21:53
Speaker 3: His name is Ethan Day. He's a defensive end. Utah
21:57
Speaker 3: needs defensive end plays because really, the the only two
22:00
Speaker 3: guys returning that had production to note were Cash Dylan
22:05
Speaker 3: and Lance Holtzklaw. Ethan Day played at a high level
22:10
Speaker 3: at the University of North Texas last year. He was
22:13
Speaker 3: a good defensive end for the Mean Green. The Mean
22:15
Speaker 3: Green and their coach, Eric Morris is now at Oklahoma State.
22:19
Speaker 3: He took just about his entire roster, it felt like
22:21
Speaker 3: with him to Oklahoma State, but Ethan Day didn't. He
22:25
Speaker 3: came to Salt Lake City. I think he's going to
22:28
Speaker 3: be a really nice player. Whether he starts or whether
22:31
Speaker 3: he's a rotational piece, it really doesn't matter. He's going
22:33
Speaker 3: to be on the field this fall, and I think
22:35
Speaker 3: he's going to have a big impact. So those are
22:38
Speaker 3: three guys just for you to kind of names to
22:41
Speaker 3: file away. And you know those names if you follow
22:45
Speaker 3: Utah football. Those are not unknown names to you. But
22:49
Speaker 3: I think all three guys could be big impact players
22:52
Speaker 3: this fall for Utah football when they get back at
22:54
Speaker 3: on the field and when they open up against the
22:56
Speaker 3: Idaho Vandals one hundred and forty days from today, can
22:59
Speaker 3: you believe it? And forty days from today, Utah football
23:01
Speaker 3: kicks off. So here's a question I'll throw out to
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Speaker 3: you today and again when you get a chance, drop
23:09
Speaker 3: me a text at eight seven seven three five three
23:12
Speaker 3: zero seven hundred. We sent one hundred and forty days out.
23:17
Speaker 3: You've seen the offseason kind of play itself out. Now,
23:20
Speaker 3: the coaching change, the new staff, hires, the portal additions,
23:26
Speaker 3: and almost a full spring football. If I ask you,
23:30
Speaker 3: a Utah football fan, what your expectation is for the
23:33
Speaker 3: upcoming season? Do you think the program now now again,
23:37
Speaker 3: remember this is a team coming off in eleven and
23:38
Speaker 3: two season. There's not a lot more room to go up,
23:42
Speaker 3: but there is room. Do you expect this program to
23:46
Speaker 3: be slightly improved? Because you're not going to be greatly
23:50
Speaker 3: improved When you were eleven and two a year ago,
23:53
Speaker 3: this was a really good team. This was a team
23:55
Speaker 3: that missed being a playoff team by a whisker. So
23:58
Speaker 3: do you expect them to be slightly improved, about the
24:02
Speaker 3: same as a year ago, or maybe a slight regression?
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Speaker 2: And tell me why.
24:09
Speaker 3: What's your expectation for the upcoming season? Slightly improved about
24:13
Speaker 3: the same, by the way, about the same would put
24:16
Speaker 3: you right in the mix for the Big twelve postseason,
24:20
Speaker 3: the Big twelve time championship game and the playoffs again.
24:23
Speaker 2: Or maybe you think there's a little bit of a regression.
24:26
Speaker 2: It's up to you.
24:27
Speaker 3: And again this is all speculation because you haven't seen
24:30
Speaker 3: them play. I've seen him in practice, but it's spring
24:33
Speaker 3: football practice. But as we sit here one hundred and
24:36
Speaker 3: forty days out, and I'm sure I'll be on the
24:37
Speaker 3: air with you guys again sometime between now and kickoff,
24:41
Speaker 3: because you know, I like to sit in from time
24:43
Speaker 3: to time, and my bosses have been kind enough to
24:45
Speaker 3: give me permission to sit in every once in a
24:47
Speaker 3: while to fill in for Sean. What's your expectation for
24:50
Speaker 3: the upcoming season? Hit me on the text line at
24:52
Speaker 3: eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. That's
24:57
Speaker 3: eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred to
25:01
Speaker 3: get you in and on board today here on the
25:03
Speaker 3: Shot o'condal show.
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Speaker 2: With Bill Riley sitting in.
25:08
Speaker 3: Text message in from seventy seventeen says, Hey Bill, great
25:12
Speaker 3: to hear your intro again on the radio.
25:15
Speaker 2: Well, I hope it's good to hear me too, not
25:17
Speaker 2: just my intro, but thank you for that.
25:20
Speaker 3: Todd says, Hey Bill, great to have you back again.
25:23
Speaker 3: No better way to kick off a three day weekend,
25:25
Speaker 3: Thank you, sir. Get a three day week. This would
25:28
Speaker 3: be a four day unless your work starts on Sunday.
25:31
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm glad you've got a three day weekend, Todd.
25:33
Speaker 2: Thank you.
25:36
Speaker 3: Matt Rigby says hey Bill, Among the biggest concerned is
25:39
Speaker 3: November seventh, but I'm also super excited for it.
25:42
Speaker 2: That's fair.
25:44
Speaker 3: I will say this, if you're gonna say a slightly
25:47
Speaker 3: improved season, I think the schedule would be one of
25:50
Speaker 3: the reasons why Utah scheduled is good.
25:53
Speaker 2: But it's not.
25:54
Speaker 3: I don't think I would say daunting. The non conference
25:57
Speaker 3: schedule is very manageable. They don't have to play Texas
26:02
Speaker 3: Tech in the regular season. They don't have to play
26:06
Speaker 3: Arizona State in the regular season. They get BYU and Houston,
26:11
Speaker 3: two preseason ranked teams at home.
26:17
Speaker 2: They do have to go to Fort Worth. That'll be tough.
26:20
Speaker 3: They do have to go to Tucson the week after
26:22
Speaker 3: playing BYU. But I think, you know, I think you
26:26
Speaker 3: can look at this. I think this team's going to
26:29
Speaker 3: be improved this year. I do, and I think the
26:32
Speaker 3: big reason is Devin Dampier, Bird Fickland Way, Sean Parker.
26:36
Speaker 3: Your biggest weapons on the offensive side of the football
26:39
Speaker 3: are back, and they've got a full offseason with a
26:44
Speaker 3: new offensive coordinator who I think is going to be
26:47
Speaker 3: very innovative with what they do and very creative. I've
26:50
Speaker 3: asked Tevin Dampier a couple of different times about that,
26:54
Speaker 3: and he gets a big smile on his face when
26:56
Speaker 3: I ask him about the creativity of Kevin mcgiven.
26:59
Speaker 2: So that gives me.
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Speaker 3: That gives me pretty good hope, Greg says Greg Dorrius. Hey, Greg,
27:06
Speaker 3: I expect a slight regression mostly because of the new
27:09
Speaker 3: offensive line. Well, I think that's fair, but you've got
27:13
Speaker 3: to remember that offensive line was elite. Elite, I mean,
27:19
Speaker 3: maybe the best in college football last year. If they
27:23
Speaker 3: regress slightly, and they likely will, because I'm not sure
27:26
Speaker 3: all five guys are going to be NFL draft picks
27:28
Speaker 3: next year, they can still be very very good. Eight
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Speaker 3: seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. Jared says,
27:42
Speaker 3: have you seen any two quarterback looks in the spring.
27:45
Speaker 3: I'm not really supposed to say what I see at practice,
27:50
Speaker 3: but I can tell you, Jared, I've liked what I've
27:52
Speaker 3: seen at practice. We'll leave it at that for now.
27:57
Speaker 3: We'll get some more of your text messages coming up
28:00
Speaker 3: here in just a bit of the program. Keep them
28:01
Speaker 3: coming in today. What are your expectations? As we said,
28:05
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty days out, and that's still a
28:07
Speaker 3: lot of time for the upcoming season slightly improved, about
28:10
Speaker 3: the same, or maybe a slight regression, and tell me
28:13
Speaker 3: why I always liked the why in there as well.
28:17
Speaker 3: Text line is open at eight seven seven three five
28:19
Speaker 3: three zero seven hundred. You can hit me with transfer
28:21
Speaker 3: portal stuff. You can hit me with jazz season stuff.
28:24
Speaker 3: I could not be more excited about the NHL Stanley
28:27
Speaker 3: Cup playoffs. I've always loved the playoffs. I've never had
28:30
Speaker 3: a hockey team in my life that I could root for.
28:33
Speaker 3: I've never lived in a city with NHL hockey.
28:36
Speaker 2: I just have it.
28:37
Speaker 3: When I grew up in Kansas City, there was no
28:38
Speaker 3: hockey team. The scouts left before I got there. Jacksonville,
28:43
Speaker 3: Florida didn't have it. But now I've got a team
28:46
Speaker 3: to root for here, the Utah Mammoth, which is fantastic.
28:50
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk to Mike folt to their play by
28:52
Speaker 3: play voice about the upcoming tonight. It's a regular season finale,
28:55
Speaker 3: doesn't mean much. They already know they're gonna be playing
28:58
Speaker 3: the Golden Knight in Game one is Sunday in Las Vegas,
29:02
Speaker 3: So we'll talk to Mike about that coming up in
29:04
Speaker 3: just a bit. But coming up next, the NBA playoffs
29:08
Speaker 3: are rolling, the Jazz are not in them. How far
29:12
Speaker 3: away are the Jazz from being a playoff team? Could
29:14
Speaker 3: they be in the playoffs next year? Maybe as a
29:16
Speaker 3: playing team. What's gonna happen this offseason? What about the
29:21
Speaker 3: playoff predictions? We'll talk about all that stuff because for
29:23
Speaker 3: the next hour. Gordon Chiasa in studio next here on
29:28
Speaker 3: ESPN seven hundred and ninety two one FM.
29:38
Speaker 5: He's out.
29:38
Speaker 1: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
29:41
Speaker 1: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa.
29:43
Speaker 2: He's forgotten more about the NBA than any of us
29:46
Speaker 2: will ever know.
29:47
Speaker 5: Let's not get crazy.
29:48
Speaker 1: Come for the hoops talk.
29:49
Speaker 2: Stay for his list of the day, My list today,
29:52
Speaker 2: here's OC.
29:53
Speaker 1: What Basketball sob on Gordy Chiaysa on the Sean o'connells.
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Speaker 3: Show, not OC today the og in for OC Bill
30:02
Speaker 3: Riley with my guy, Gordy Giasa, my friend of so
30:07
Speaker 3: many years and Jazz and NBA insider.
30:12
Speaker 2: How are you, dog?
30:12
Speaker 5: I love you, Bill, I am doing well. Thank you
30:15
Speaker 5: all right? Welcome, welcome back.
30:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's it's like riding the bike here.
30:20
Speaker 3: Gordy it's like you and I back they we were
30:21
Speaker 3: on the phone a couple of weeks ago when I
30:23
Speaker 3: filled in for Sean for the first time. But this
30:26
Speaker 3: is even better having you in studio with your lists
30:29
Speaker 3: and your binders and and all of that stuff.
30:32
Speaker 2: I don't know where to start. Let's let's start first
30:35
Speaker 2: with the jazz.
30:35
Speaker 3: We've got a whole hour here, so we're gonna start
30:38
Speaker 3: first with the jazz, and then we'll kind of expand
30:40
Speaker 3: out to the NBA and the playoffs that are coming
30:42
Speaker 3: up and all of that stuff.
30:44
Speaker 2: It was a it was a bad year.
30:47
Speaker 3: It was a hard It was an expectedly bad year,
30:49
Speaker 3: but it was a If you are a hardcore jazz fan,
30:52
Speaker 3: it's gotten harder and harder the last couple of years
30:55
Speaker 3: to watch the team you love so very much. But
30:59
Speaker 3: it feels like despite the they don't like you to
31:03
Speaker 3: say tanking, but we know what it is. That's it's
31:07
Speaker 3: that it feels like to me, and this is me
31:09
Speaker 3: on the outside. I'm not in it every day like
31:12
Speaker 3: you are, but it feels like, for the first time
31:15
Speaker 3: in two or three years, there might be a plan
31:18
Speaker 3: you can see in place, something that's that's a little
31:22
Speaker 3: bit tangible by the moves that they made this year,
31:25
Speaker 3: you can kind of begin to it may be off
31:27
Speaker 3: of the distance, Gordy, it may be a little blurry
31:30
Speaker 3: right now, but it kind of feels like you can
31:32
Speaker 3: see the vision of what maybe they're trying to do.
31:34
Speaker 8: Is that fair?
31:35
Speaker 5: Yes, very much, it's absolutely fair. So if I'm a
31:38
Speaker 5: jazz fan, there is absolutely hope and the Jazz are
31:41
Speaker 5: trying to position himself to go. I'm saying next year,
31:46
Speaker 5: as we speak about the playing tournament last night, the
31:48
Speaker 5: Jazz should be in the play in tournament next season.
31:51
Speaker 5: They should be.
31:52
Speaker 3: So one of my favorite movies is Shawshank Redemption. So
31:56
Speaker 3: you love that movie too, you've seen it. One of
31:58
Speaker 3: the great lines in that movie from Andy Dufrain is
32:01
Speaker 3: hope is a good thing. Maybe it's the best of things,
32:05
Speaker 3: and no good thing ever dies. So you say, there's
32:08
Speaker 3: hope for the Utah Jazz very much. And where does
32:11
Speaker 3: the hope lie for you? Not four four years from now,
32:15
Speaker 3: but for next year? Because nobody wants to look We're
32:18
Speaker 3: tired of looking four years down the line. Oh no,
32:20
Speaker 3: we want to look at next year. Where is the
32:22
Speaker 3: hope for next year for the Utah Jazz, so at
32:25
Speaker 3: this time next year in twenty twenty seven, that they
32:28
Speaker 3: could potentially be in the postseason.
32:30
Speaker 5: Yes, the hope is that Jazz one. They have talent
32:33
Speaker 5: and that that talent has to be able to play defense.
32:36
Speaker 5: So next year's starting lineup bill.
32:39
Speaker 2: Should be this should be this is before the draft.
32:42
Speaker 5: Yep, that's it for the draft. Should be Keante George
32:45
Speaker 5: at one, Acepally at two, Larry Marketing at three, Jaron
32:51
Speaker 5: Jackson at four, and re signed Walker Kessler. That's the
32:55
Speaker 5: starting lineup. So that's a good lineup. That's a big
32:59
Speaker 5: line Yes.
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Speaker 1: It is.
33:01
Speaker 5: It's big, and it has its athletic and they have
33:03
Speaker 5: different skill sets. Now the problem is, as always, did
33:08
Speaker 5: Jazz have to play defense in the NFL? We'll be
33:12
Speaker 5: up at arms.
33:13
Speaker 3: Well, I think your front court you can say, okay,
33:15
Speaker 3: well you can see a path with Jaren Jackson and
33:17
Speaker 3: Walker Kessler as defenders, rim protectors in the front court. Lowry,
33:23
Speaker 3: they've never really asked him to do it anywhere. He's
33:25
Speaker 3: been Keyonte, no Ace Bailey Young, but of course no.
33:30
Speaker 3: So three of your five guys are are what you
33:33
Speaker 3: would call non defenders. Right now for the Utah Jazz
33:37
Speaker 3: but if that's your starting five, we won't even talk
33:40
Speaker 3: about the bench yet.
33:41
Speaker 2: If you're gonna get.
33:43
Speaker 3: Let's just say sixty five to seventy games out of
33:47
Speaker 3: those five guys, is that good enough to be one
33:50
Speaker 3: of the top ten teams in the West.
33:52
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, oh yes, absolutely yes. This is quick metrics,
33:57
Speaker 5: and I'll explain to you quickly about the about how
34:00
Speaker 5: to do it. All right, So the Jazz this year
34:02
Speaker 5: and last year. This year, the Jazz are ranked number
34:05
Speaker 5: twenty nine overall defensive rating. The only team works in
34:08
Speaker 5: the Jazz was the Wizards. The Jazz last year with
34:11
Speaker 5: number thirty the least team in the NBA for block
34:15
Speaker 5: shots at three point eight. So by getting Jaron Jackson
34:18
Speaker 5: and bringing back Walker Kessel, that will improve the problem?
34:23
Speaker 5: Bill is this is that the Jazz allowed the most
34:26
Speaker 5: points in the NBA this year per game at one
34:30
Speaker 5: hundred and twenty six. Yikes. All right, And it all starts,
34:34
Speaker 5: and it all starts and ends on ball containment. The
34:37
Speaker 5: Jazz do not contain the ball on perimeter. And so
34:43
Speaker 5: segue to that the Jazz allowed the most made three
34:46
Speaker 5: point shots in the NBA, Bill fifteen point three. And
34:49
Speaker 5: he allowed the most three point attempts in the NBA
34:52
Speaker 5: at forty one point one. All right, so it all
34:55
Speaker 5: starts and ends. Can the Jazz players meaning Cante George okay,
35:02
Speaker 5: a spelly okay, Larry Marketing okay? Can they guard the ball?
35:08
Speaker 2: Can they? Okay?
35:09
Speaker 3: Well, Ace Bailey is a rookie, so we're gonna we're
35:12
Speaker 3: gonna give him a little grace here. He's got the link,
35:15
Speaker 3: he's got the athleticism to do it. So maybe Will
35:18
Speaker 3: Hardy and his guys could coach him up. But Lowry
35:21
Speaker 3: Market in seven years, I think it's seven or them?
35:23
Speaker 2: Is it eight?
35:23
Speaker 8: Now?
35:24
Speaker 2: Seven?
35:24
Speaker 3: Eight years into the NBA? Conte George is four years
35:28
Speaker 3: into the NBA. They've neither have ever shown a propensity
35:31
Speaker 3: to really guard. Can you, as a guy that coached
35:34
Speaker 3: it for a long time, can you change a player's
35:38
Speaker 3: DNA seven eight years into their career?
35:42
Speaker 5: Yes you can't, Yes you can, Yeah, yes you can.
35:45
Speaker 5: So so next season meaning the twenty yes, right, twenty
35:49
Speaker 5: six to twenty seven season would be County george fourth
35:52
Speaker 5: year and be Larry markin Bill, You're right on point,
35:54
Speaker 5: it will be his tenth season. And so the answer
35:57
Speaker 5: is yes, because there has to be accountability and it's
35:59
Speaker 5: all based on technique.
36:01
Speaker 2: So give me an exam.
36:02
Speaker 3: Go back over your career, your long and storied NBA career,
36:06
Speaker 3: long and storied. A Jazz guy, a Memphis Grizzlies guy,
36:12
Speaker 3: a Seattle Sonics guy. What go find me somebody that
36:16
Speaker 3: was not a he was a non defender that you
36:19
Speaker 3: turned into at least somewhat, or a plus defender that
36:23
Speaker 3: were that were four or five men, they were into
36:25
Speaker 3: their career already. Can you give me an example of
36:27
Speaker 3: somebody you worked with or a guy on a team
36:29
Speaker 3: you coached that became a markedly better defender.
36:32
Speaker 7: Oh?
36:32
Speaker 3: Absolutely, for Sean Lewis, Okay, Ray Allen, Okay, yeah, Ray Allen,
36:40
Speaker 3: especially in the fourth quarter. Okay, Ray picked his spots.
36:44
Speaker 3: Ray Allen Okay, yeah, absolutely.
36:47
Speaker 2: They were both.
36:47
Speaker 5: You coached both those guys in Seattle, Oh absolutely. And
36:50
Speaker 5: those guys you know there were want to be defenders
36:53
Speaker 5: and we improved them. And that's by accountability. So again
36:57
Speaker 5: the question is how can I buy a combined technique
37:01
Speaker 5: with effort and peer pressure? Remember a lot of times
37:05
Speaker 5: your teammates put the most heavy peer pressure on you,
37:09
Speaker 5: saying what are you doing? Most times when big guys
37:11
Speaker 5: are in foul trouble. It all starts because the guys
37:14
Speaker 5: are in perimeter, don't contain the ball. Okay, that's what happens. Okay,
37:18
Speaker 5: So if I'm in foul trouble earlier, I'm a big guy,
37:20
Speaker 5: I am absolutely calling out the guys are in perimeterive,
37:23
Speaker 5: why are you not defending the ball. And that's all
37:26
Speaker 5: based on technique, and that's based on Bill. In any sport,
37:30
Speaker 5: just think about the sport of football. If you bend
37:33
Speaker 5: your knees, the chances of being having better balance improves dramatically.
37:37
Speaker 5: Correct the lower you get on defense and any sport,
37:40
Speaker 5: the better you are correct.
37:41
Speaker 3: Bending your knees in basketball is a big thing too.
37:43
Speaker 3: You got to get into your stance. So, by the way,
37:47
Speaker 3: I know I'm old and I watch it, but oh,
37:49
Speaker 3: you know you're young. In wrestling, nobody, very rarely do
37:53
Speaker 3: you see guys getting into stances anymore.
37:55
Speaker 2: Wait, especially collegiately.
37:58
Speaker 5: Well, okay again, that's on them, Bill, you're talking blasphemy.
38:03
Speaker 5: Last night's game, just quickly, Draymond Green got in that
38:06
Speaker 5: stance and he pick pocketed those guys in the fourth quarter.
38:10
Speaker 3: That's playoff basketball, though, I'm talking about regular season NBA basketball,
38:17
Speaker 3: not a lot of stances getting into all the time. Anyway,
38:21
Speaker 3: I digress. So those five guys, you think that there's
38:24
Speaker 3: room for defensive improvement, that they can score the ball.
38:27
Speaker 3: We know the Jazz cans score score. Those five guys
38:29
Speaker 3: can score the ball. How much of an improvement that.
38:32
Speaker 3: Let's just say the Jazz right now are playing at
38:34
Speaker 3: a thirty five percent twenty five percent defensive effort. What
38:40
Speaker 3: level do you need to get them to as a
38:42
Speaker 3: group to make them a playoff team? Forty forty five percent,
38:47
Speaker 3: fifty percent? How much work does Will Hardy and his
38:49
Speaker 3: staff have this summer with this group to try to
38:52
Speaker 3: get them better defensively sixty percent, So they've been a
38:56
Speaker 3: long way to go.
38:58
Speaker 8: They do.
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Speaker 5: And also again it's all based on the accountability. And
39:02
Speaker 5: now there's other guys that might take your place. That's
39:06
Speaker 5: the magical word is that if after counseling people and
39:11
Speaker 5: coaching them and showing them technique, and if they still
39:15
Speaker 5: don't do it, then you have to make some sort
39:17
Speaker 5: of less playing time. It's good. That's how you win.
39:21
Speaker 3: So Gordy's brought to us by a Laddin industry it's
39:23
Speaker 3: your vlux dealer. So those five guys for now, we
39:26
Speaker 3: don't know. The Jazz might have the number one pick,
39:28
Speaker 3: they might have the number five, and who knows, they're somewhere.
39:31
Speaker 3: They're gonna they're gonna get a good player because it's
39:33
Speaker 3: a good draft. But with that being said, right now,
39:38
Speaker 3: the bench five guys are not going to win you
39:40
Speaker 3: a championship. Five guys are not really even gonna make
39:42
Speaker 3: you a playoff team. You've got to have guys. Do
39:45
Speaker 3: you like what the Jazz have coming off the bench
39:48
Speaker 3: or does that need to be remade because the starters
39:50
Speaker 3: are probably gonna be the starters. Maybe you're adding free agency,
39:54
Speaker 3: maybe you add through the draft. But are guys like
39:56
Speaker 3: Collier and Williams in sense a ball and Philippowski and
40:01
Speaker 3: conchar heartless. Are these guys guys that you would bring
40:05
Speaker 3: back or would you want to remake that bench a
40:07
Speaker 3: little bit?
40:08
Speaker 5: I bring some of them back. I bring back Isaiah Collier,
40:11
Speaker 5: but he might be gone at the again if the
40:14
Speaker 5: Jazz pick will say at five, six, seven or eight,
40:18
Speaker 5: just hypothetically, the best players at that position are all guards,
40:22
Speaker 5: the point guards. So Klia is very good. That guy's
40:27
Speaker 5: past happen. He's got some toughness. So again, so if
40:31
Speaker 5: you draft the guy just for hypothetically, now, is that
40:34
Speaker 5: then what happens to Callier he becomes the third point guard?
40:37
Speaker 6: Or is that?
40:38
Speaker 5: Does he try you try to move him this summer
40:40
Speaker 5: because he has value because teams like him, and he's
40:42
Speaker 5: again he's his primitive shooting has gotten slightly better. He
40:46
Speaker 5: can drive that ball to the basketball. He's got a
40:49
Speaker 5: winning game. So I do like Kylia Cuddy, Williams has
40:52
Speaker 5: made some improvement offensively, yes he has, he's got it,
40:56
Speaker 5: but he still can't shoot threes yet. So Williams right
40:59
Speaker 5: now he shot forty six point eight from the field,
41:02
Speaker 5: but it's the problem is what his three point shooting
41:04
Speaker 5: is still willfully low, and so he's got to get
41:07
Speaker 5: better at shooting. His defense again is a concern. What
41:11
Speaker 5: about his body, It's a concern, yeah, meaning what he's got,
41:14
Speaker 5: he's got that angular, high hips body. He has to
41:17
Speaker 5: get more core balance, gets stronger upper body. But also
41:21
Speaker 5: usually speaking again, is that your athleticism is based on
41:27
Speaker 5: your core balance as far as how you can maintain
41:30
Speaker 5: a level of leverage when you get bumped off balance,
41:34
Speaker 5: and so Cody Williams has to get stronger.
41:36
Speaker 3: They know that well, he's and he's not going anywhere
41:38
Speaker 3: because he's he's on his rookie contract and certainty, yeah,
41:42
Speaker 3: you're not going to pull the ripcord on him yet.
41:45
Speaker 3: But and also that also doesn't mean though he's part
41:47
Speaker 3: of your regular rotation, he's going to have to earn
41:49
Speaker 3: that time next year with the with the better talent
41:51
Speaker 3: on the team, right.
41:52
Speaker 5: Correct, Yeah, no, by the way, he's only twenty one. Again,
41:55
Speaker 5: these guys are drafted so young that you think they're
41:58
Speaker 5: going to step in and the answer is it hardly
42:03
Speaker 5: really ever happens.
42:04
Speaker 3: So you've mentioned Callier, You've mentioned Williams. Who else do
42:07
Speaker 3: you like that they've got on that roster to bring
42:10
Speaker 3: back next year?
42:11
Speaker 8: Oh?
42:11
Speaker 5: Bryce censer Ball, Okay, absolutely, that guy can. That guy
42:15
Speaker 5: can shoot. That guy's got some toughness. He only missed
42:18
Speaker 5: seven games last year, which is commendable, and that he's
42:23
Speaker 5: he's a streak shoot. Reminds you of a younger version
42:25
Speaker 5: and much bigger of Jordan Clarkson.
42:28
Speaker 2: Bill.
42:29
Speaker 5: That guy he can shoot, and he can he's fearless,
42:32
Speaker 5: So I'd bring him back. And again, his contract is
42:34
Speaker 5: absolute team friendly, and I think he's really a good
42:37
Speaker 5: off the bench.
42:38
Speaker 2: He's what you need.
42:39
Speaker 5: When he has the ball, you feel good about it
42:41
Speaker 5: when he's open. Oka like him, He's fiery. Anybody else
42:44
Speaker 5: you like, I like Philipowski. He's undermanned. So again we're
42:49
Speaker 5: talking somebody at the second round pick at number thirty two.
42:52
Speaker 5: He's played relatively well offensively, he's overmatched physically, not athletically.
42:57
Speaker 5: I bring him back because why he's again his contract
42:59
Speaker 5: is his team friendly. He does hustle and he's good.
43:03
Speaker 5: And then also again, these guys have value. So if
43:07
Speaker 5: the Jazz they could make a trade with these guys
43:10
Speaker 5: because other teams like them. But they're all their best
43:13
Speaker 5: position is off the bench contributors coming into the game
43:17
Speaker 5: causing offensive havoc. The problem is you have to get
43:22
Speaker 5: guys from Cole WHI defensive havoc correct the bench. That
43:25
Speaker 5: is a concern. So I bring back some of them,
43:28
Speaker 5: if not all of them. All depends who the other
43:30
Speaker 5: guys are.
43:31
Speaker 3: Give me a couple of names in the draft, knowing
43:34
Speaker 3: what the jaz that, knowing what the Jazz need and
43:38
Speaker 3: where they might pick, they could pick you know, three, four, five, six, seven,
43:42
Speaker 3: somewhere in that range. What what give me a couple
43:47
Speaker 3: of names of guys you've watched play this year, Gordy
43:50
Speaker 3: that you think could help the Jazz, Because if you're
43:52
Speaker 3: picking that high, you want somebody that's gonna be able
43:55
Speaker 3: to come in and help you. Not necessarily a starter
43:57
Speaker 3: maybe at some point, but somebody that could certainly be
44:00
Speaker 3: a rotational piece that can help you next year.
44:02
Speaker 2: Are there a couple of names you like?
44:03
Speaker 7: Oh?
44:03
Speaker 5: Absolutely, Caleb Wilson Carolina did for Carolina, Absolutely, I would
44:08
Speaker 5: take him in a heartbeat. And also Lindeberg from the
44:11
Speaker 5: Michigan got a winning game. Those two guys, if the
44:14
Speaker 5: Jazz could get them, they'd be tremendous. They're good. And
44:18
Speaker 5: the other guys who you know again you know you
44:20
Speaker 5: know the names, Darius Atcoff, you know Kingston Fleming Brown. Yeah,
44:25
Speaker 5: but is a cut He's a talent.
44:28
Speaker 3: He's a scoring talent. I know, we just spent ten
44:31
Speaker 3: minutes talking about guarding. He doesn't guard the shadow, but
44:34
Speaker 3: he can score the Do you need another guy that
44:36
Speaker 3: can really score it like him?
44:38
Speaker 5: I love this theory.
44:39
Speaker 3: Or do you need a guy that you think can
44:41
Speaker 3: maybe guard a little bit? And now maybe you can.
44:42
Speaker 3: Maybe John Caliperry just never asked him to guard as
44:45
Speaker 3: a freshman. Maybe you saw something on the tape, But
44:48
Speaker 3: when I watched him, I saw a guy that could
44:50
Speaker 3: fill the bucket up, but I didn't.
44:52
Speaker 2: See a guy that played much defense.
44:53
Speaker 5: Okay, here's the dilemma, the great dilemma of everybody in
44:57
Speaker 5: the draft room. When do you stop picking not based
45:02
Speaker 5: on talent? You got that right, Bill, it's the great dilemma.
45:06
Speaker 5: You wish that these guys would be two way players
45:09
Speaker 5: from day one? Yes, you do, of course you do. However,
45:13
Speaker 5: it's really a rarity. It's so it's just say hypothetic. Again,
45:18
Speaker 5: we're just hypothetically talking right now. You're driving right now
45:21
Speaker 5: at I fifteen. Please stay stay ready, to stay in
45:24
Speaker 5: the road. Right now?
45:26
Speaker 6: Is that.
45:28
Speaker 5: When do you make that value judgment to not pick
45:31
Speaker 5: only on talent and you're based on positional needs. I'm
45:36
Speaker 5: saying most times, philosophically, most times it would be double
45:42
Speaker 5: digit draft. In other words, ten and above. You just
45:45
Speaker 5: say talent. No, I'm saying ten position.
45:48
Speaker 2: Ten, ten and above meaning one through ten.
45:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, ten and above, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, five.
45:54
Speaker 3: Okay, So but one through ten you're just going talent
45:57
Speaker 3: you are, okay, yeah, you look at position needs and
46:00
Speaker 3: talent after that. But one through ten, when you're in
46:03
Speaker 3: that top ten, you're just saying, give me the best
46:06
Speaker 3: player I can get and we'll figure out how to
46:08
Speaker 3: play him after that. Correct, okay, yeah, correct, yeah, absolutely.
46:12
Speaker 3: And by the way, oh, by the.
46:14
Speaker 5: Way, Sejos Alexander's pick number thirteen, Yeah, and Nikolai Jokic
46:21
Speaker 5: wasn't even the first pick by the dever Nuggets Usef Nurkic.
46:26
Speaker 5: So's by the way of jazz Man, I know exactly,
46:29
Speaker 5: which just shows you that you think you know something,
46:32
Speaker 5: you know nothing. Trust me. I've been doing this for
46:35
Speaker 5: thirty in the NBA, but I've in the NBA directly
46:38
Speaker 5: around the NBA, I just finished on my thirty seventh season,
46:41
Speaker 5: And trust me, you think you know something, but it's
46:44
Speaker 5: called human behavior. That there's no analytics, there's no metrics,
46:49
Speaker 5: there's no AI someday that will tell you what's in
46:53
Speaker 5: a player's heart. And by the way, who's your teammate
46:56
Speaker 5: next to you? And by your way, in the locker room,
46:58
Speaker 5: who's the guy next to you you get laced up
47:01
Speaker 5: with he's ah so many variables that make a player
47:04
Speaker 5: either successful or can fast track his improved.
47:07
Speaker 3: A few more jazz thoughts will get him for By
47:09
Speaker 3: the way, if you have any questions for Gordy, UH,
47:11
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47:13
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47:15
Speaker 3: questions at Gordy. Draft related, jazz season, related off season,
47:19
Speaker 3: all of that stuff. We'll also talk some playoffs and
47:22
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Speaker 3: Here on the Shad O'Connell Show, Bill Riley sitting in
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Speaker 3: today on the ESPN seven hundred and ninety two one FM.
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Speaker 1: You're tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
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Speaker 1: f M.
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Speaker 2: Did you pick this song? Yes, it's a great song.
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Speaker 5: Do you think on Pisce Square?
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Speaker 1: No?
47:50
Speaker 5: You think as there.
47:52
Speaker 2: Your hip is hip can be okay, and he's got
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Speaker 2: his h he's got.
48:00
Speaker 3: Har fun today it is going to be chilly later
48:02
Speaker 3: we're supposed to a freeze warning tonight.
48:03
Speaker 5: I love it, Bill, you think subconsciously that because of
48:07
Speaker 5: my age.
48:07
Speaker 2: Don't hey, don't you think of me? Don't you?
48:10
Speaker 3: We have been friends for too long for you to
48:12
Speaker 3: put you to put that on me. Gordy's in today,
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Speaker 3: He's in for a full hour. He'll be here till
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Speaker 3: twelve thirty. I'm in for Sean today. Sean's over in
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Speaker 3: Belfast doing some fighting stuff. And it's good to have
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Speaker 3: you on the Shad O'Connell Show today, presented by our
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Speaker 3: friends and Big Willie's. We're talking some NBA stuff with
48:28
Speaker 3: Gordy A. But I want to get a few more
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Speaker 3: jazz thoughts about the off season coming up from you.
48:32
Speaker 3: But how about Steph Curry last night? Yes, how about
48:35
Speaker 3: Steph Curry? Age you, Gordy. He is ageless and timeless.
48:41
Speaker 3: He brings his A game every night, just like you,
48:44
Speaker 3: Gordy Chiasa.
48:45
Speaker 5: No, thanks for the compliment, but there's no correlation means Steph.
48:48
Speaker 5: But with Steph last night it was tremendous. I was
48:51
Speaker 5: sitting there, was sitting there Bill on TV and I
48:55
Speaker 5: was actually cheering. It was a comeback. Listen quick if
49:00
Speaker 5: you didn't see the game, it was a comeback win
49:02
Speaker 5: over the Clippers when the Warriors were down thirteen points
49:06
Speaker 5: under ten minutes on the road. And remember now loser
49:09
Speaker 5: goes home. There's no tomorrow in this game. And then
49:13
Speaker 5: the Warriors outscoed the Clippers in that stretch, forty one
49:16
Speaker 5: to twenty three in that frame, including fourteen for eighteen,
49:21
Speaker 5: shooting for seventy seven point eight percent from the field
49:25
Speaker 5: at time, and also eight draining threes. All right, so
49:30
Speaker 5: that's what happened as a group right now. But Steph
49:33
Speaker 5: Curry was on fire, parking lot range, pitcher, perfect step
49:38
Speaker 5: back threes. He was injured, so they said that he
49:41
Speaker 5: was a They won't seany Mitzi gonna play. He only
49:44
Speaker 5: played thirty six, Oh yeah, thirty six, and he goes
49:48
Speaker 5: thirty five points, twelve for twenty three, seven for twelve.
49:52
Speaker 5: But he made every big shot that they needed him
49:55
Speaker 5: and his trusted sidekick young aging Hawfin now al Haffin,
50:02
Speaker 5: who they picked up from the Celtics. Al haffd h
50:04
Speaker 5: thirty nine. Now nine times this season only he made
50:09
Speaker 5: three threes in a game. So only nine times he
50:13
Speaker 5: made three three point shots. Yesterday last night he makes
50:18
Speaker 5: four out of seven and it's when he got them also,
50:21
Speaker 5: so it was an amazing effort by the Golden State Warriors.
50:26
Speaker 3: It was twenty seven of his thirty five were in
50:29
Speaker 3: the second half. Yew Warford had four threes in the
50:31
Speaker 3: second half. Right, Tito's son, by the way, that's right,
50:35
Speaker 3: Tito Hoffin. Bill's alluding to Tito Hoffin film Milwaukee Bucks player,
50:38
Speaker 3: who was in nineteen eighty six. He went to the
50:40
Speaker 3: University of Miami, of Florida and Carl Gables. And let's
50:44
Speaker 3: add to this, our TV partners, Bill in the NBA
50:48
Speaker 3: are a static.
50:49
Speaker 1: Oh.
50:50
Speaker 3: In the NBA offices today, they will never openly root.
50:54
Speaker 3: But if the Golden State Warriors knock off the Phoenix
50:56
Speaker 3: Suns on Friday, they will be through the roof.
50:59
Speaker 5: Won't very much because that means that Steph Curry and
51:04
Speaker 5: the Warriors brand. No, it is Steph Curry. People like him,
51:07
Speaker 5: like Bill. He's likable. He's six foot three. He went
51:11
Speaker 5: to Davidson College. Yes, he went online to get his degree.
51:15
Speaker 5: Two years ago he was playing in the playoffs. They
51:17
Speaker 5: asked him, stuff, what are you doing tonight? You're rested?
51:19
Speaker 5: He goes, no, I'm doing my turn paper. It's due
51:22
Speaker 5: next day. They said, what are you doing? I'm doing
51:24
Speaker 5: my urn paper because I promised my mother I'm gonna
51:27
Speaker 5: graduate from Davidson. And during the playoffs two years ago,
51:30
Speaker 5: he's doing his turn paper in the door, in the
51:32
Speaker 5: in the on the road, finishing it. Can't make this up.
51:37
Speaker 2: Can't make this stuff up. You cannot. I wish you did.
51:40
Speaker 5: I wish you did your turn paper at KU a
51:43
Speaker 5: long time ago. I said it go.
51:45
Speaker 2: I couldn't do him online.
51:46
Speaker 3: I had to turn him in physically to the professor
51:49
Speaker 3: because the internet wasn't around when I was at Kansas.
51:52
Speaker 5: I know it's it's hard to exactly tell me today.
51:56
Speaker 3: We have not been able to do this for a
51:57
Speaker 3: couple of years on a regular basis. When last you
52:00
Speaker 3: and I were doing the regular Gordy Chiasa segments on
52:04
Speaker 3: ESPN seven hundred of The Bill Riley Show, the Charlotte
52:07
Speaker 3: Hornets were a joke. They were terrible. They were a laughingstock. Gordy,
52:11
Speaker 3: how did the Shore of Charlotte Hornets become what, I'm
52:14
Speaker 3: not gonna say, one of the best teams, but one
52:16
Speaker 3: of the most entertaining teams and a good playoff team
52:19
Speaker 3: in the NBA.
52:20
Speaker 5: Very much one coaching by Charles Lee absolutely that's the
52:26
Speaker 5: he's the guy that turned that around. Bill's alluding to
52:28
Speaker 5: right now the Hornets is that if they can win
52:32
Speaker 5: a Friday Night at Orlando, it'll be the first appearance
52:36
Speaker 5: in the and the NBA playoffs and ten seasons. Bill,
52:41
Speaker 5: let's put it in context. The guy living the guy
52:44
Speaker 5: or the girl is a Charlott fan living in Charlotte,
52:46
Speaker 5: North Carolina, and they're sixteen years old. Bill, They're going
52:50
Speaker 5: to their junior prom, Bill like you, like you did
52:52
Speaker 5: one time in your life. Then suddenly ten they they
52:55
Speaker 5: went to the playoff game. They went to the prom,
52:58
Speaker 5: didn't go any playoff game for ten years. At age
53:00
Speaker 5: twenty six, Bill, they finally might go to a playoff game.
53:04
Speaker 5: I'm putting a context, Bill in guys like your life.
53:08
Speaker 3: Well, I can remember when Steph's dad, Dell was a
53:11
Speaker 3: sharpshooter for the then Charlotte Hornets. I can remember when
53:17
Speaker 3: Alonzo Mourning was playing for the Charlotte Hornets and Munchie
53:21
Speaker 3: Boats and Muggsy Boges was playing for the Charlotte Hornets.
53:24
Speaker 3: That was about the last time they were a consistently
53:26
Speaker 3: good franchise. Now you've got LaMelo Ball, Conker Nipple, who's
53:30
Speaker 3: been a find for them as a first year rookie.
53:35
Speaker 3: Brandon Miller coming out of Alabama a couple of years ago,
53:38
Speaker 3: despite all the stuff that was swirling around him, he's
53:41
Speaker 3: turned into a good player, bridges most of Diabate.
53:44
Speaker 2: Then they've got good players coming off the bench too.
53:46
Speaker 3: This is a Again, I don't know how far they'll go,
53:49
Speaker 3: but they are a wildly entertaining and fun team to watch.
53:52
Speaker 5: Very much. Also, Bill, they hit the jackpot as far
53:54
Speaker 5: as off the bench for a big guy, Ryan Coolebrener
53:58
Speaker 5: from Creighton. Yeah, that guy was the thirty fourth pick
54:01
Speaker 5: of the draft. And so again for the listeners on
54:04
Speaker 5: ESPN Radio seven hundred, I know you go bonkers over
54:10
Speaker 5: the NBA draft. Oh by the way, if he's not
54:13
Speaker 5: drafting one, two, three, or four, the other guys can't play.
54:16
Speaker 5: Oh really you believe that theory because we can recite
54:20
Speaker 5: without boring people. So many great players after that. So
54:24
Speaker 5: Ryan Coolebrender, who's a developing young player. He gives them
54:28
Speaker 5: another big guy. And Bill mentioned a Mussete he played
54:34
Speaker 5: at He's a Frenchman. He played at Michigan. Most people
54:37
Speaker 5: don't know his name and Bob Mute can play. He
54:40
Speaker 5: gets in the game and he hustles, he plays hard,
54:43
Speaker 5: doesn't know any better, and he's helped him tremendously. And
54:46
Speaker 5: the last part about that, we left out Sion James
54:49
Speaker 5: from Duke Yep off the bench. So all these guys
54:53
Speaker 5: are contributing. It's really a fun story. And he's the
54:57
Speaker 5: great debate Bill who's the rookie of the year.
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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that when we get back. Gordy will
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Speaker 3: have a list for us when we get back. I've
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Speaker 3: got some text questions for Gordy when we get back.
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Speaker 3: Riley Infro connall today shanting me back next week. I
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Speaker 3: appreciate him. Let me sit in. I really appreciate my
55:45
Speaker 3: buddy Gordy Chiason making it all the way down from
55:48
Speaker 3: stately Chiason mansion on the south end of the valley
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Speaker 3: to come in studio today to talk some NBA basketball
55:53
Speaker 3: with us.
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Speaker 5: Oh that's so funny, Bill, You and Noles Barkley are
55:57
Speaker 5: both crazy.
55:58
Speaker 2: We all say that. Yeah, we are so other. Gordy
56:00
Speaker 2: Chase favorite.
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Speaker 8: Bill.
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Speaker 5: You keep alluding to that I don't know nothing about anything,
56:05
Speaker 5: including basketball.
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Speaker 3: You're reading way too much into this. Keep reading you see,
56:10
Speaker 3: you're very sensitive about this. I know you are a
56:13
Speaker 3: man about town and a man of many musical tastes and.
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Speaker 2: Likes.
56:19
Speaker 5: True, However, I do like Also the NBA playoffs spill,
56:25
Speaker 5: which thought this weekend and it's going to be outrageous.
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Speaker 2: All right, is there? Who do you?
56:30
Speaker 3: We're not going to dive deep into this because we
56:32
Speaker 3: don't have a full show to do this, but but
56:34
Speaker 3: tell me who you like in the East and why
56:36
Speaker 3: who comes out of the East and why Selts?
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Speaker 2: Okay?
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Speaker 5: Why one? Because they're season team. They defend, they make threes,
56:47
Speaker 5: and they have the they have the bookend forwards that
56:50
Speaker 5: can score against great defense trying to guard them. They
56:54
Speaker 5: can outdo them. As far as playing, and then Derek
56:57
Speaker 5: White is that unbelievable all around player that we talked
57:01
Speaker 5: about earlier that the Jazz need guys like that that
57:04
Speaker 5: are two way players that can start. So Jalen Brown
57:09
Speaker 5: and Jason Tatum and Derek White, and then they got
57:12
Speaker 5: built the former Packed ten performer of Peyton Pritchett. As
57:17
Speaker 5: far as him, he's emerged tremendous for them. And they
57:20
Speaker 5: got Vucevic back right now, Luke Garson, all the other guys,
57:23
Speaker 5: Cato from Utah State. I love their team.
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Speaker 3: Is it their championship pedigree, the fact that they've been
57:28
Speaker 3: there and done that with a lot of the guys
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Speaker 3: in this group like Tatum and Brown and others, Or
57:34
Speaker 3: why is it that you like them more than Is
57:36
Speaker 3: it because Detroit hasn't been there before and they have
57:38
Speaker 3: to kind of prove themselves.
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Speaker 5: Yes, exactly right now on sixty wins, I know, however,
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Speaker 5: Okay his the however now, because it is tanking by
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Speaker 5: ten teams in the NBA that I know, it tells
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Speaker 5: us that teams have sixty wins, but one third of
57:56
Speaker 5: the league the last bill twenty five games of the
57:59
Speaker 5: season didn't want to play at all, and so I'm
58:02
Speaker 5: saying that just generally speaking, it's not the teams that won,
58:06
Speaker 5: it's not their fault. It's not but a sixty one
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Speaker 5: team on a regular NBA where teams want to compete
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Speaker 5: with more like fifty seven fifty six. Okay, So just
58:16
Speaker 5: generally speaking, I'll put in context, Bill. This past year,
58:20
Speaker 5: the NBA set a record for the most teams to
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Speaker 5: lose fifty games or more in the history of the NBA.
58:28
Speaker 5: There was ten teams that lost fifty games or more.
58:32
Speaker 5: Add to that, besides the fifty the ten teams that
58:35
Speaker 5: lost fifty games or more a record. Another record was set.
58:39
Speaker 5: There was five teams that lost sixty games or more. Bill,
58:43
Speaker 5: sixty games or more. Five teams are quickly here they are.
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Speaker 5: The Wizards had sixty five losses, Paces sixty three losses,
58:51
Speaker 5: the Net sixty two losses, the Jazz sixty losses, and
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Speaker 5: the Kings sixty losses. Bill records.
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Speaker 3: I want to ask thank you this, and then we'll
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Speaker 3: find out who you like in the West coming at
59:03
Speaker 3: and then we'll talk to take some text questions here.
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Speaker 3: How much damage do you think the NBA has done
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Speaker 3: to its product and its reputation? Among fans with the
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Speaker 3: last couple of years of this extreme tanking. Is you
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Speaker 3: just said five sixty loss teams, you know, ten teams
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Speaker 3: that have been openly not even making any really you know,
59:26
Speaker 3: trying to make any excuse. They are just openly trying
59:29
Speaker 3: to tank. How much do you think they've hurt their reputation?
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Speaker 3: How much do you think they've hurt their kind of
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Speaker 3: the image and product to the average fan that watches
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Speaker 3: the product, either goes to games or watches on TV.
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Speaker 5: It's hurt them very much. But we add to that. Oh,
59:44
Speaker 5: by the way, Bill u ship's up the last three
59:48
Speaker 5: year record numbers. So people are still watching the games,
59:52
Speaker 5: but they're not going to games because their prices are
59:55
Speaker 5: so high, just philosophically, and so suddenly the fans, the
1:00:00
Speaker 5: people the people that a corporate boxes and stuff, they're
1:00:03
Speaker 5: still going, but the fans are aren't going as much,
1:00:06
Speaker 5: so they're watching it at home. So the new business
1:00:10
Speaker 5: partners as far as the TV networks, they're a static
1:00:12
Speaker 5: over it. But the fan base as far as going
1:00:15
Speaker 5: through the game, is lesser. So that is the problem
1:00:18
Speaker 5: right now. Again. Bill Pitcher in the NFL, who we
1:00:21
Speaker 5: all love pitch you're not playing to win an NFL game,
1:00:24
Speaker 5: you would get hurt. Well, it's gets hurt.
1:00:27
Speaker 2: It's true.
1:00:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a different sport. It's a different game. You
1:00:30
Speaker 3: don't see that in the NFL. But with that being said, yeah,
1:00:35
Speaker 3: you just you wouldn't see it. It's just a different
1:00:37
Speaker 3: mentality and mindset. You cannot play that game that same way.
1:00:41
Speaker 5: Hockey. Hockey, no way, no way. So basketball they know it,
1:00:46
Speaker 5: and Adam Silvery, he knows it, and that's why they're
1:00:49
Speaker 5: gonna address it for the listeners right now. On May
1:00:52
Speaker 5: twenty eighth, the the Border Governors, which is basically the
1:00:55
Speaker 5: all the owners are coming together and they're gonna have
1:00:58
Speaker 5: they're gonna finalize next year's rules as far as eliminating
1:01:03
Speaker 5: dramatically tanking. In other words, there'll be punitive damages, either
1:01:08
Speaker 5: money or draft picks, et cetera.
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Speaker 2: Do you think it will work.
1:01:11
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah. The second you take away draft picks from
1:01:15
Speaker 5: a team, that's when that's his attention. Oh, we're gonna
1:01:18
Speaker 5: find you up twenty five million dollars and there's a
1:01:20
Speaker 5: lot of money, but to some of the owners it's not.
1:01:23
Speaker 3: But second you take away draft picks future you probably
1:01:26
Speaker 3: have to do both, don't you draft picks and money?
1:01:29
Speaker 5: Yes, both both, and that's when it gets more level again.
1:01:33
Speaker 5: All you want to do is have a level playing
1:01:36
Speaker 5: field and may the best teams win based on the
1:01:40
Speaker 5: players performing. The coach is doing a great job, and
1:01:44
Speaker 5: management getting the acquiring players that have winning games. It
1:01:49
Speaker 5: sounds so elementary, but it's not all right.
1:01:52
Speaker 3: So you like Boston out of the East, not the Pistons,
1:01:55
Speaker 3: not the Knicks, not the Cavaliers. In the West, two
1:01:59
Speaker 3: sixty win teams, the Oklahoma City Thunder, the San Antonio Spurs.
1:02:04
Speaker 3: You've also got a team like the Nuggets, who've got
1:02:06
Speaker 3: maybe the best player in the world and Jokic when
1:02:10
Speaker 3: he's healthy and on his game.
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Speaker 8: Uh.
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Speaker 3: And they've also, by the way, won twelve in a
1:02:14
Speaker 3: row going into the offseason.
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Speaker 2: Who do you like in the West?
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Speaker 5: Denver?
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Speaker 2: Really?
1:02:21
Speaker 5: Yes, Denver?
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Speaker 2: Okay, tell me tell me more.
1:02:24
Speaker 5: Well, if you mentioned one best player in the world
1:02:28
Speaker 5: and Nikolai Jokic, I mean, how like he's impossible to guard.
1:02:32
Speaker 5: And people say all the time about Jokic doesn't like basketball.
1:02:36
Speaker 5: That's not true, doesn't like fame. It's a big difference.
1:02:39
Speaker 5: Jokis loves basketball, doesn't like the fame of basketball. So
1:02:43
Speaker 5: when you see him all the time, he wants to
1:02:45
Speaker 5: go back to UH, to his native native country, that
1:02:48
Speaker 5: you don't like basketball. That's not true. He's like a myth.
1:02:51
Speaker 5: And so I love about Jokic and the Denver Nuggets
1:02:55
Speaker 5: is that they have talent. Aaron Gordon was uh during
1:03:00
Speaker 5: the year. Now he's back now. Christian Brown was hurt,
1:03:03
Speaker 5: now he's back now. Bruce Brown has played tremendous for them.
1:03:06
Speaker 5: Peyton Watson been tremendous for them as has helped them.
1:03:10
Speaker 8: So I like it.
1:03:11
Speaker 5: It upset the Denver Nuggets now I know they got
1:03:13
Speaker 5: to play the Spurs in the second round. Here's the
1:03:15
Speaker 5: quick metrics. We've had seven straight different champions in a row.
1:03:20
Speaker 5: All seven of those teams thought in the war room
1:03:23
Speaker 5: after they won it, they're gonna repeat, and none of
1:03:26
Speaker 5: them did. Add to that, the defending champion lost in
1:03:30
Speaker 5: the second round. Bill seven straight years the defending champion
1:03:35
Speaker 5: lost to that. That's the metric tells us. And what's
1:03:37
Speaker 5: the reason why. One the other guys are good you
1:03:40
Speaker 5: play against and two weird thinking in the playoffs, injuries
1:03:45
Speaker 5: happened or lucky bounce has happened to the opposition and
1:03:51
Speaker 5: it's not your year sometime. And the less part of
1:03:54
Speaker 5: it is why the matchups. It's who you play against.
1:03:57
Speaker 5: And so the thunder are great defend the ball, they
1:04:01
Speaker 5: have unbelievable talent level, their bench is deep. I'm saying
1:04:04
Speaker 5: that the Denver Nuggets could beat them and also the
1:04:07
Speaker 5: upstart Spurs, and we'll see that the Nuggets can if
1:04:12
Speaker 5: Nuggets get past the first round. By the way, the
1:04:14
Speaker 5: Nuggets have lost to the te Wolves back to back years,
1:04:17
Speaker 5: back to back years though so as far as they
1:04:19
Speaker 5: beating them, and so the learning point about that is
1:04:21
Speaker 5: that even at that they're all really elite teams. They
1:04:26
Speaker 5: have star player. So here's the question. The last point
1:04:28
Speaker 5: about this, can our three best players on our team
1:04:33
Speaker 5: out play in the fourth quarter the other three best
1:04:36
Speaker 5: players on their team. So it comes down to the
1:04:38
Speaker 5: three best guys of your team. They have to be
1:04:41
Speaker 5: two way players in the fourth quarter to get stops, defensively,
1:04:44
Speaker 5: block shots, and most of all, scored the ball on
1:04:47
Speaker 5: a short clock.
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Speaker 3: Who is Denver's third best player, because we'll say Yoki
1:04:51
Speaker 3: it's clearly their best. We'll say Jimal Murray their second
1:04:54
Speaker 3: best who's their third best player? Is it Gordon? Is
1:04:57
Speaker 3: it Brown? Is it Cam Johnson? Who did you say
1:05:00
Speaker 3: the third best player? Aaron Gordon? Okay, yeah, because of
1:05:03
Speaker 3: his versatility, versatility. Absolutely, he's a threat.
1:05:06
Speaker 5: And whenever he makes an open jump shot from three
1:05:09
Speaker 5: point shots, I yell out hallelujah.
1:05:11
Speaker 2: So Denver against Boston, what do you like?
1:05:19
Speaker 5: Boston?
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Speaker 2: Okay?
1:05:21
Speaker 5: Boston?
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Speaker 2: Good? Series?
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Speaker 6: Oh?
1:05:23
Speaker 5: Absolutely, Remember it's not a series until it goes six games.
1:05:29
Speaker 5: Even though a team might play hard and it's really
1:05:32
Speaker 5: the games are really close. If you lose four games
1:05:35
Speaker 5: to one, I call it it was a playoff skirmish,
1:05:38
Speaker 5: all right. So when it goes six games, it's really
1:05:40
Speaker 5: a series. And that's when you dislike strongly the other team.
1:05:45
Speaker 5: So you're play against the same guy guarding you, fouling you,
1:05:49
Speaker 5: tripping you, elbowing you tohead. You dislike that person built
1:05:54
Speaker 5: very very immensely. By the way, Bill, I love you Dog.
1:05:57
Speaker 2: All right, love you too, Dog.
1:05:58
Speaker 3: You want to answer a few text questions before we
1:06:00
Speaker 3: get to our list of the very much. All right,
1:06:02
Speaker 3: let's do this, Tom says Gordy JJJ wasn't on my
1:06:06
Speaker 3: bingo card for jazz trades. But do you think they'll
1:06:09
Speaker 3: make another trade around the draft?
1:06:12
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, because they had best second unit. Guys,
1:06:17
Speaker 5: it's possible. Yeah, that week of the of the draft,
1:06:20
Speaker 5: they can make trades.
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Speaker 8: Yes.
1:06:22
Speaker 3: This one in from Tom. Tom says, Hey, Bill, Gordy's
1:06:25
Speaker 3: two conservative on the Jazz. The Jazz are a five
1:06:27
Speaker 3: or a six seed next year, legit contenders the following year,
1:06:30
Speaker 3: Go mammoth.
1:06:31
Speaker 7: That might be.
1:06:32
Speaker 5: That's that m'd be a bit aggressive. No, I hey,
1:06:36
Speaker 5: it could happen. I'm saying, well, let's go the Jazz
1:06:39
Speaker 5: right now, they won twenty two games. If they win
1:06:41
Speaker 5: forty three games next year, it should be playoff. That'd
1:06:44
Speaker 5: be great. Plus twenty one. That's wonderful.
1:06:46
Speaker 3: Hey Bill, can you ask Gordy what he thinks of
1:06:48
Speaker 3: the NBA's anti tanking proposals and the ideas that have
1:06:51
Speaker 3: been floated around.
1:06:52
Speaker 2: You like them?
1:06:52
Speaker 6: I do?
1:06:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, just quickly. You're going to try to flatten out.
1:06:55
Speaker 5: They're going to flatten out the odds where the six
1:07:00
Speaker 5: teams in the East that made the playoffs right away
1:07:02
Speaker 5: and six in the West, those twelve, those twelve are
1:07:05
Speaker 5: not part of the lottery. The other remaining eighteen teams
1:07:08
Speaker 5: will be a part of the lottery, and after the
1:07:11
Speaker 5: first four it's the exact same as far as oh,
1:07:14
Speaker 5: it's as far as getting it. It makes sense, a
1:07:15
Speaker 5: lot of sense. I go one step further. Why not
1:07:18
Speaker 5: have all eighteen teams have one ball in it?
1:07:20
Speaker 2: And that's it? Wow?
1:07:22
Speaker 8: Just one?
1:07:23
Speaker 2: Just one?
1:07:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, just keep it simple. So there's no tanking bill
1:07:26
Speaker 5: just one.
1:07:26
Speaker 3: In other words, just say so the eighteenth team has
1:07:30
Speaker 3: the same chance as the worst team.
1:07:31
Speaker 5: That's correct. Okay, so there's no tanking zero none.
1:07:35
Speaker 2: Okay zero. Matt wants to know Gordy is Aj who
1:07:39
Speaker 2: played in Provo the real deal.
1:07:40
Speaker 5: Yeah, very much. Absolutely, He'll be the first pick of
1:07:44
Speaker 5: the draft. I love his game. He's team orientated, He's
1:07:49
Speaker 5: special the way he plays the game, how he conducts himself,
1:07:54
Speaker 5: and he can he can create his own shot so
1:07:56
Speaker 5: off the dribble, that is absolutely critical. I've seen him
1:08:00
Speaker 5: play live. So reminds you of it reminds you really
1:08:03
Speaker 5: a former NBA player Tracy McGrady. But in the present tense,
1:08:06
Speaker 5: he reminds you of younger version of Paul George Brandon
1:08:10
Speaker 5: ingriing a Jalen Wilson Williams of the thunder. That's what
1:08:14
Speaker 5: he plays like. He's a shot maker. He can create
1:08:17
Speaker 5: his own for his teammates. He plays defense, and he's
1:08:21
Speaker 5: got that ED factor and I love him.
1:08:23
Speaker 3: He's a great player. I got to see him in
1:08:25
Speaker 3: person twice this year and he's and in his best
1:08:27
Speaker 3: quality this year was he played a lot and played hard.
1:08:30
Speaker 3: There were some of those guys that didn't play a
1:08:32
Speaker 3: lot and didn't play hard.
1:08:33
Speaker 2: He did.
1:08:33
Speaker 3: William Jacobson says, hey, Bill, welcome back. Thanks to William.
1:08:37
Speaker 3: I think we all know who the Jazz are going
1:08:39
Speaker 3: to take if they get that number one pick. Well, yeah,
1:08:41
Speaker 3: who do you used to want to see them take
1:08:43
Speaker 3: if they land the three, four, or five or six spots.
1:08:45
Speaker 3: Gore to give a couple of names from like three
1:08:47
Speaker 3: to six that the Jazz could look at.
1:08:48
Speaker 5: Okay, hey cuff, Okay Wilson from Carolina.
1:08:52
Speaker 2: Caleb Wilson.
1:08:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, he should be there, Fleming from Houston.
1:08:55
Speaker 3: I like him very good. You know what I like
1:08:58
Speaker 3: about him. He played for Kelvin Samson, which means he
1:09:02
Speaker 3: had to play hard and had to be tough and
1:09:03
Speaker 3: had to guard a little bit. Wasn't a great guard,
1:09:05
Speaker 3: but he guarded a little bit for a freshman.
1:09:08
Speaker 5: Yeah, very much. Also, let's get back to one second
1:09:10
Speaker 5: b Yu all right, Richie's son this that guy's good.
1:09:14
Speaker 5: It's so unfortunately towards ACL and it set back to
1:09:17
Speaker 5: Cougars very much. He's fiery. That guy can make shots,
1:09:21
Speaker 5: so he should be picked in the second round. I'm
1:09:24
Speaker 5: just guessing the bill between forty three to fifty three,
1:09:30
Speaker 5: all right, and then once they do the intel on
1:09:33
Speaker 5: his knee to see where it's sad. As far as
1:09:35
Speaker 5: the rehab of it, I'm sure he's a hard work
1:09:37
Speaker 5: as far as as far as making making injury, as
1:09:40
Speaker 5: far as trying to get it as strong as he can.
1:09:43
Speaker 5: Ritchie Son, you reminds me of in the NBA right now.
1:09:45
Speaker 5: Comparison would be Sam Houser of the Celtics, AJ Green
1:09:48
Speaker 5: of the Bucks and Sam Merrill of the CAFs. That
1:09:51
Speaker 5: he plays like and that they're all good players in
1:09:53
Speaker 5: the NBA.
1:09:54
Speaker 3: Is Keithon Woggler a point guard in the NBA, kid
1:09:58
Speaker 3: from Illois.
1:09:58
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's six foot.
1:10:00
Speaker 3: He sees the floor really well. I know you think
1:10:02
Speaker 3: he's a point guard? Yes, okay, I do, I do, yes,
1:10:07
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be a great draft. By the way,
1:10:09
Speaker 3: every draft is good.
1:10:10
Speaker 5: Every draft is good because there'll be guys at late
1:10:13
Speaker 5: first round that the do say what the guy can't do,
1:10:18
Speaker 5: and suddenly in the NBA he merges, all.
1:10:20
Speaker 2: Right, let me.
1:10:20
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a hypothetical here. The Jazz are
1:10:23
Speaker 3: picking at number five. They don't get in the top four.
1:10:26
Speaker 3: They're at number five. You have the option to take
1:10:30
Speaker 3: Keaton Wagler, Darius A. Cuff or Caleb Wilson.
1:10:35
Speaker 5: Caleb Wilson, Okay, Carolina, where do you play him? I'm
1:10:40
Speaker 5: taking him.
1:10:40
Speaker 2: Okay, I know he's a talent, But where do you
1:10:42
Speaker 2: play him? Once you take him?
1:10:44
Speaker 5: Running four man? Okay, Yeah, I'm taken him without any hesitation.
1:10:49
Speaker 2: So he backs up Jared Jackson.
1:10:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, or backs up Larry Markine Okay, three, So he's
1:10:57
Speaker 5: you're seeing him as a three or a four. Absolutely
1:10:59
Speaker 5: love of his game, get you hurt. He broke his wrist, So.
1:11:02
Speaker 3: You'd rather have him than than a point guard like Wagler,
1:11:05
Speaker 3: who's six with six a true point guard?
1:11:07
Speaker 5: Yes, and I do like both, okay, and again it's
1:11:10
Speaker 5: all hypothetically. The draft is a I call it the
1:11:13
Speaker 5: Great Unknown Bill. It's the unknown, but I know one
1:11:16
Speaker 5: thing right now is that uh, his NBA playoffs bill
1:11:20
Speaker 5: when it starts right now. It's a man's league. So
1:11:24
Speaker 5: you have to be tough in the NFL and the NBA.
1:11:28
Speaker 5: The teams that advance bill, they're ruthless.
1:11:30
Speaker 3: Another hypothetical for you, you don't have the number one pick.
1:11:33
Speaker 8: A J.
1:11:34
Speaker 3: De Bonce is gonna go number one, but you have
1:11:36
Speaker 3: the number two pick. Are you taking Darren Peterson or
1:11:40
Speaker 3: Cameron Boozer. I'm making Gordy think. Now he's got a thinking,
1:11:46
Speaker 3: pensive look on his face. Yes, Peterson, you're gonna You're
1:11:52
Speaker 3: gonna roll the dice a little bit, assuming the medicals
1:11:54
Speaker 3: will not assume the medicals are okay, that he doesn't
1:11:56
Speaker 3: have any physical issue.
1:11:58
Speaker 5: And also the intel, you know, the intel about him
1:12:01
Speaker 5: around them. Who's his people, who's his family. I mean,
1:12:04
Speaker 5: it's all part of the equation. And remember Ace Billy's
1:12:08
Speaker 5: a wonderful person. The guy's wonderful. Every he tells you
1:12:12
Speaker 5: that coaches them say he's really a great young man.
1:12:15
Speaker 5: And the intel about him, well, he don't want to
1:12:17
Speaker 5: come here. Oh it says who said his agent and said,
1:12:21
Speaker 5: remember a lot of times there's misinformation about players. So
1:12:26
Speaker 5: it's your job as a people on the personnel side
1:12:29
Speaker 5: to really go deep dig into it. That's your job
1:12:33
Speaker 5: to get accurate intel.
1:12:34
Speaker 3: One more question then we'll get your list of the
1:12:36
Speaker 3: day today. This question, how can Gordy determine how good
1:12:40
Speaker 3: the Jazz defense is if they haven't put their best
1:12:42
Speaker 3: team out there and asked them to play hard. Isn't
1:12:45
Speaker 3: defense mostly effort?
1:12:47
Speaker 5: Yes, it's effort and technique. Yeah. The answer is that's.
1:12:49
Speaker 2: Well, shouldn't you, as a pro always play hard?
1:12:51
Speaker 8: Oh?
1:12:52
Speaker 5: My Bill, Bill, you give me a headache. I'm having
1:12:56
Speaker 5: an out of body experience right now, Bill, I can
1:12:59
Speaker 5: hardly talk.
1:13:00
Speaker 2: All right.
1:13:00
Speaker 5: The answer is you'd hope that. But remember defense is
1:13:07
Speaker 5: based on effort and technique and toughness, and it's such
1:13:10
Speaker 5: an intangible that most players want a tangible, tangible result,
1:13:16
Speaker 5: meaning what but defense is intangible. But that's how you win.
1:13:20
Speaker 5: And the better teams they play defense, whether it's whether
1:13:24
Speaker 5: it's the Thunder right now, the Celtics, And that's part
1:13:26
Speaker 5: of problem with the Nuggets, Bill, I'm picking them, but
1:13:29
Speaker 5: their defense is only average. So they've got an act
1:13:31
Speaker 5: out of character in the playoffs and get a better defense.
1:13:34
Speaker 3: Many years ago, Gordy and I talked about ranking different
1:13:38
Speaker 3: things and I asked him to come up with a
1:13:40
Speaker 3: list for me when he came back on the air.
1:13:42
Speaker 2: This is probably ten years ago.
1:13:44
Speaker 3: Ever since then, every appearance, without fail, the Gordy Chiasa
1:13:48
Speaker 3: has made on the ESPN seven hundred, whether the Bill
1:13:51
Speaker 3: Riley Show, or the Shot O'Connell Show, or any show
1:13:53
Speaker 3: that he's done, he has come armed with a list.
1:13:56
Speaker 3: Gordy chias I ask you today, dog, and I love
1:13:59
Speaker 3: you dog, what is our list of today to day?
1:14:02
Speaker 5: The list today, Bill is most NBA titles won by
1:14:06
Speaker 5: a franchise. I cut it off at four. So four?
1:14:11
Speaker 2: So is this is this a top ten list or
1:14:14
Speaker 2: just a top four list?
1:14:15
Speaker 7: No?
1:14:15
Speaker 5: It's it involved involves a lot of teams, ok, because
1:14:18
Speaker 5: they won four championships, all right? With four championships The
1:14:21
Speaker 5: Mammy Heat. Let scim me with part me sat again,
1:14:25
Speaker 5: scream me with three championships the Mammy Heat with three,
1:14:29
Speaker 5: the less one being twenty thirteen. And do you realize
1:14:31
Speaker 5: the Heat started as a franchise startup back in eighteen
1:14:34
Speaker 5: eighty eight and eighty nine. They also been in four finals.
1:14:39
Speaker 5: So in their Korea They've been in three championships. They
1:14:42
Speaker 5: won it in fourth NBA finals. Detroit Pistons, Fort Wayne Pistons.
1:14:46
Speaker 5: They moved from Fort Wayne to Detroit for the nineteen
1:14:50
Speaker 5: fifty seven to fifty eight season. They also have three
1:14:53
Speaker 5: NBA titles and four times they lost in the NBA finals.
1:14:59
Speaker 5: Number next area the seventy six Philadelphia and the Warriors
1:15:04
Speaker 5: and the Syracuse Nationals. They have three NBA titles and
1:15:08
Speaker 5: lost in the finals six times. The last time they
1:15:10
Speaker 5: were in the NBA they won the championship was nineteen
1:15:13
Speaker 5: eighty three. Next one, the San Antonio Spurs. They have
1:15:17
Speaker 5: five titles, the last one was twenty and fourteen. They
1:15:22
Speaker 5: also lost in the finals one time back in seventy six.
1:15:27
Speaker 5: Seventy seven all right, Next one, Golden State Warriors, also
1:15:34
Speaker 5: the seman Cisco Warriors.
1:15:35
Speaker 2: Right now.
1:15:36
Speaker 5: They moved in Philadelphia to California back in nineteen sixty two.
1:15:42
Speaker 5: They have five NBA championships. The last title was twenty
1:15:47
Speaker 5: twenty two. They also lost in the finals three times.
1:15:51
Speaker 5: Next one, Chicago Bulls. They started the expansion franchise. The
1:15:56
Speaker 5: first year was nineteen sixty six sixty seven. The Walker
1:16:00
Speaker 5: that's right, and also young Jerry Sloan are the former
1:16:04
Speaker 5: Jazz coach and my friend and colleague. The Bulls won
1:16:08
Speaker 5: six championships, we know about that, the last one being
1:16:12
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety eight. They've never lost an NBA final. Next
1:16:18
Speaker 5: one second all time the LA Minneapolis Lakers. They won
1:16:23
Speaker 5: seventeen NBA championships and bill they lost also fifteen times
1:16:29
Speaker 5: in the NBA finals, So they've been thirty two thirty two.
1:16:33
Speaker 2: Wow.
1:16:33
Speaker 5: So the Lakers have been to the finals thirty two
1:16:36
Speaker 5: times in their their Korea, the last one being a
1:16:40
Speaker 5: championship was twenty twenty. And this question all the times, X,
1:16:44
Speaker 5: Why do the LA why they call Lakers? And the
1:16:47
Speaker 5: reason why is they moved from Minneapolis, which is called
1:16:50
Speaker 5: the Twin City and the land of a thousand, ten
1:16:53
Speaker 5: thousand lakes back in the nineteen sixty sixty one season
1:16:57
Speaker 5: where they played also with late hot Rod Hunley played
1:17:01
Speaker 5: on that team.
1:17:02
Speaker 8: All right.
1:17:02
Speaker 5: The number one team in the history of NBA basketball
1:17:05
Speaker 5: the most titles is the Boston Celtics. The original NBA
1:17:11
Speaker 5: format was nineteen forty six forty seven. The Celts have
1:17:14
Speaker 5: won eighteen NBA titles, including the last title was twenty
1:17:19
Speaker 5: twenty four. And they lost in the finals five times.
1:17:24
Speaker 5: So Lakers eighteen, Street Lakers seventeen. The Celts went above
1:17:31
Speaker 5: them at number eighteen. Jazz Basketball. They've never been in
1:17:36
Speaker 5: the NBA as far as championships, but the Jazz were twice.
1:17:39
Speaker 5: For the young Listeners went to the NBA Finals back
1:17:41
Speaker 5: in nineteen ninety seven and ninety eight, a young Gordon
1:17:46
Speaker 5: Chieza on the bench as Zachary Ryan. Here's the last
1:17:48
Speaker 5: point about this. The following NBA franchises had never been
1:17:54
Speaker 5: to the NBA Finals. Bill now as far as far
1:17:57
Speaker 5: as winning a championship, winning eampionship, they are the Brooklyn
1:18:02
Speaker 5: Nets never win a championship, the Start Hornets, Indiana Pacers,
1:18:06
Speaker 5: LA Clippers, Memphis Grizzlies, Minnesota Timberwolves, the Orlean Pelicans, Phoenix Suns,
1:18:16
Speaker 5: and the Utah Jazz. A. What about the Sacramento Kings
1:18:19
Speaker 5: and Sacramento Kinks. Correct, Sacramento Kinks. Yes, so those teams
1:18:25
Speaker 5: have all not been ever champions. Thus that's my list
1:18:30
Speaker 5: for today.
1:18:31
Speaker 3: It's a good list. Gordy Celtics eighteen, though I know
1:18:36
Speaker 3: and in your mind maybe number nineteen this year could be.
1:18:40
Speaker 5: Yeah, it should be.
1:18:41
Speaker 2: You just picked them ten minutes ago.
1:18:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, it could be absolutely, Bill. How about the NFL champions?
1:18:49
Speaker 5: What do you think this coming year?
1:18:51
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, I'll defer to my Kansas City chiefs
1:18:54
Speaker 3: if Patrick Mahomes gets healthy. But there's a lot of teams.
1:18:57
Speaker 3: That's the beauty of the NFL. You could sit here
1:18:59
Speaker 3: today and say there's probably eight or nine teams that
1:19:02
Speaker 3: could win the Super Bowl next year. I don't think
1:19:04
Speaker 3: when you come into an NBA season all this year.
1:19:06
Speaker 3: This year was a little bit different. I think you
1:19:09
Speaker 3: come into an NBA season and say, maybe four teams
1:19:11
Speaker 3: could win an NBA title, maybe five? Agree, Yes, oh yeah, absolutely.
1:19:17
Speaker 3: And by the way, who's your quarterback?
1:19:20
Speaker 2: Exactly?
1:19:21
Speaker 5: So much is so important. And by the way, in
1:19:22
Speaker 5: the NBA, who's your superstar? That's exactly right, not quite
1:19:26
Speaker 5: the same.
1:19:26
Speaker 3: Your quarterback's usually your superstar, but in the NBA ed
1:19:29
Speaker 3: his most definitely.
1:19:30
Speaker 2: Who's your superstar?
1:19:31
Speaker 5: Who can make baskets in the fourth quarter under a
1:19:34
Speaker 5: minute left or make plays the will a team to win,
1:19:38
Speaker 5: And that's Steph Curry as far as into play in
1:19:41
Speaker 5: tournament right now.
1:19:42
Speaker 3: Speaking of superstars, who's your MVP? Nikolai Jokic, he's so
1:19:47
Speaker 3: good I was at the Denver game a couple of
1:19:49
Speaker 3: weeks ago when they were here in town, and when
1:19:51
Speaker 3: you watch that guy play in person, it's really impressive
1:19:55
Speaker 3: how much he controls a game. He just, I mean
1:19:58
Speaker 3: just he He is a absolutely in control of the
1:20:02
Speaker 3: game on both ends of the floor.
1:20:04
Speaker 5: For the Nuggets very much. So let's put it in
1:20:05
Speaker 5: context quickly. I know, if you're up to the break
1:20:07
Speaker 5: right now, is that Yogi's played this year sixty five games,
1:20:11
Speaker 5: thirty four times. He had triple doubles thirty four, so
1:20:15
Speaker 5: more than half the games he played this year hit
1:20:17
Speaker 5: a triple double. And let's put it in context. Cal
1:20:20
Speaker 5: Malone was MVP of the league twice in his career
1:20:24
Speaker 5: with the JS had four triple doubles. And John Stockton,
1:20:28
Speaker 5: who was an absolute great player in his whole career.
1:20:31
Speaker 5: John had won triple double one one one in nineteen years.
1:20:35
Speaker 5: Yogi's got thirty four this season, so so, but Shay
1:20:40
Speaker 5: is great also, So my instincts tell me that Shay's
1:20:43
Speaker 5: gonna win the MVP again, which he's deserving also, but
1:20:47
Speaker 5: I would go towards Jokicic.
1:20:48
Speaker 3: I think I would go toward Jokic as well. But boy,
1:20:51
Speaker 3: I would love to have Shaye Yogis Alexander on my team. That, folks,
1:20:55
Speaker 3: is my friend, the NBA insider of many years, Gordon
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1:21:05
Speaker 2: So good to see you man about town. Let's go
1:21:07
Speaker 2: grab some lunch, shall we?
1:21:08
Speaker 3: Yes, we will, Thanks Bill. Peace out, there is peace
1:21:10
Speaker 3: out to Gordon Chiasa. We'll have more coming back on
1:21:13
Speaker 3: the other sides, some text messages. We'll talk some Utah
1:21:15
Speaker 3: football top of the hour. We'll even talk some with
1:21:18
Speaker 3: Jordan Wynn.
1:21:19
Speaker 2: Some hockey.
1:21:19
Speaker 3: We know who the Mammoth are playing in the opening
1:21:21
Speaker 3: round and win. It's the Golden Knights. On Sunday in Vegas,
1:21:25
Speaker 3: Mike Folt will join us at about an hour as well.
1:21:27
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Speaker 2: bit of hot.
1:22:00
Speaker 3: We know that the Golden Knights will host the Mammoth
1:22:03
Speaker 3: Sunday Game one of that series, the opening round of
1:22:06
Speaker 3: the NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs and involving the Mammoth Sunday
1:22:10
Speaker 3: afternoon Sunday evening. We don't have a time as of yet,
1:22:13
Speaker 3: at least we did in a little while ago. Mike
1:22:15
Speaker 3: Folton might have some more news for us when he
1:22:17
Speaker 3: joined us at about an hour here on the program today.
1:22:20
Speaker 3: But that goes and then James fill me in again.
1:22:23
Speaker 3: What's the first game? What's the first Stanley Cup Playoff game?
1:22:26
Speaker 3: Here on the ESPN seven hundred. So this would be
1:22:27
Speaker 3: our third year.
1:22:30
Speaker 9: Having the NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs via Sports USA.
1:22:33
Speaker 2: We started that the season you left, Bill No.
1:22:38
Speaker 3: My last year by I I ushered that in with you,
1:22:41
Speaker 3: and then then I then I then I departed.
1:22:44
Speaker 9: So when right about when you left was the was
1:22:46
Speaker 9: the first time we got the NHL playoffs when they
1:22:48
Speaker 9: announced the Mammoth coming to town. So Saturday at three o'clock,
1:22:53
Speaker 9: we'll have game one of the Wild versus the Stars.
1:22:56
Speaker 9: We may even have some national broadcasts of Mammoth games. Hey, hey, hey, go,
1:23:02
Speaker 9: so we'll get We'll get more of the schedule later,
1:23:06
Speaker 9: but Wild versus Stars Game one, three o'clock on Saturday
1:23:09
Speaker 9: will be our first playoff game here on ESPN seven hundred.
1:23:12
Speaker 3: There is nothing better than playoff hockey, and you'll be
1:23:15
Speaker 3: able to hear it right here on ESPN seven hundred
1:23:17
Speaker 3: and ninety two to one FM. And of course, the
1:23:20
Speaker 3: Mammoth in action in the opening round as they take
1:23:23
Speaker 3: on the Vegas Golden Nights.
1:23:26
Speaker 2: I guess maybe at.
1:23:27
Speaker 3: Some point we get a little regional rivalry developing there
1:23:30
Speaker 3: with either Vegas or Colorado. You guess you hope that
1:23:33
Speaker 3: probably develops at some point in time. You gotta get good.
1:23:36
Speaker 3: You gotta play some meaningful games. We all know that
1:23:38
Speaker 3: from the days of the PAC twelve Conference where the
1:23:41
Speaker 3: Pac twelve tried its darnedest to make Utah and Colorado
1:23:43
Speaker 3: arrival and it just really was never there.
1:23:46
Speaker 2: You've got to get that, gotta get those meaningful games.
1:23:48
Speaker 3: And maybe this is the first time, maybe a playoff
1:23:51
Speaker 3: game or two could be meaningful and create a little
1:23:53
Speaker 3: Las Vegas and Salt Lake City rivalry. We shall see,
1:23:56
Speaker 3: but that's that's coming up here beginning this week. And
1:24:00
Speaker 3: of course, the Mammoth play their final regular season game
1:24:03
Speaker 3: downtown tonight at the Delta Center against the Saint Louis Blues.
1:24:06
Speaker 3: That's an ESPN broadcast tonight, and that's a five thirty
1:24:10
Speaker 3: start time on ESPN, so you'll be able to see
1:24:12
Speaker 3: that coming up a little bit later on tonight on
1:24:16
Speaker 3: the Mothership. A little bit of college basketball transfer portal
1:24:22
Speaker 3: news today. Utah's got a bunch of visitors that have
1:24:26
Speaker 3: come through in the last week or so. I know
1:24:28
Speaker 3: Alex and West and the staff are working hard and
1:24:31
Speaker 3: grinding there. But a former ute today committed to a
1:24:36
Speaker 3: pretty big time program. Keanu Dawes committed to the University
1:24:40
Speaker 3: of Kansas this morning to continue his college basketball career.
1:24:44
Speaker 3: Multiple reports coming out of Kansas, including the Kansas City Star,
1:24:48
Speaker 3: says the Dawes committed to Kansas. To me, that's a
1:24:51
Speaker 3: little surprising. It'll be interesting to see how Bill self
1:24:54
Speaker 3: and his staff, you Keano, very happy for that young man.
1:24:57
Speaker 3: He was a great kid while he was here. Decided
1:25:00
Speaker 3: to hit the portal a couple of weeks back and
1:25:03
Speaker 3: has apparently committed to play. He is basketball next at
1:25:06
Speaker 3: the University of Kansas. We'll see where some of these
1:25:09
Speaker 3: other guys land up too. I'm not sure that anybody
1:25:11
Speaker 3: else in that Utah class that left in the portal
1:25:14
Speaker 3: will landed a bigger program than Kansas, but Canada Dawes
1:25:17
Speaker 3: he is now officially a Jayhawk. And this is kind
1:25:23
Speaker 3: of old news. It came down yesterday, but BYU got
1:25:25
Speaker 3: a return commitment from Rob Wright. A little bit surprising
1:25:29
Speaker 3: when he went into portal. I thought that Rob was
1:25:31
Speaker 3: probably gonna be bound for someplace else, but he made
1:25:34
Speaker 3: some visits, talked to some people, and decided what was
1:25:37
Speaker 3: best for him was coming back to Provo. So that's
1:25:39
Speaker 3: a good get for BYU to go along with Colin
1:25:42
Speaker 3: Chandler and the young man brands they've got coming in
1:25:45
Speaker 3: into the recruiting freshman class. So that's transferred portal news
1:25:49
Speaker 3: as of today as well. And of course, and of
1:25:54
Speaker 3: course coming up tonight, we've got a little NBA or
1:25:57
Speaker 3: i should say, coming up tomorrow night, a little bit
1:26:00
Speaker 3: of NBA playoff action Friday nights Charlotte in Orlando, Golden
1:26:05
Speaker 3: State and Phoenix as the play in tournament continues on
1:26:10
Speaker 3: Charlotte and Orlando or on Prime Video, and Golden State
1:26:13
Speaker 3: and Phoenix are also on Prime Video five thirty and
1:26:16
Speaker 3: eight o'clock respectively.
1:26:19
Speaker 2: Coming up there.
1:26:20
Speaker 3: And just a reminder for you also tomorrow night if
1:26:22
Speaker 3: you can't make it up to the ballpark, well, Utah Baseball,
1:26:26
Speaker 3: I'll have the call tomorrow night as Utah takes on
1:26:28
Speaker 3: Texas Tech in baseball at Charlie Montford Field at America
1:26:32
Speaker 3: First Ballpark. Those games all weekend long. Myself at Bill
1:26:35
Speaker 3: Kenniberg will be on ESPN Plus. Come up and watch
1:26:39
Speaker 3: them too if you haven't been out to the new
1:26:40
Speaker 3: ballpark yet. But it's a beautiful place, and if you'd
1:26:43
Speaker 3: like to come out, get some tickets and come on
1:26:45
Speaker 3: out five o'clock tomorrow night, then afternoon baseball I'm sorry,
1:26:49
Speaker 3: six o'clock tomorrow night, and then afternoon baseball coming up
1:26:51
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1:26:55
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Speaker 3: a fifty thousand what blowtorch? Well, thank you, I appreciate
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Speaker 3: that this went in from says, I truly believe we're
1:28:02
Speaker 3: going to have a significant improvement from last year this
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Speaker 3: due to our big offensive weapons returning, defense always strong,
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Speaker 3: and I think special team's going to take a huge
1:28:09
Speaker 3: step forward as well. Plus all the new coaching additions
1:28:12
Speaker 3: new energy from Scalley brings to the team. Well, that's great.
1:28:17
Speaker 3: It's hard to have a significant improvement over an eleven
1:28:20
Speaker 3: and two season. That's why I said it slightly improved,
1:28:23
Speaker 3: because you were eleven and two a year ago. You
1:28:25
Speaker 3: were a whisker away from playing in the Big twelve
1:28:27
Speaker 3: title game and being a college football playoff team. That's
1:28:31
Speaker 3: why I just said slightly approved. But if you want
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Speaker 2: It's your text. Feel free to do so.
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Speaker 3: Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. Text
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Speaker 3: message in from Derek. I'm sorry, but I can't get
1:28:44
Speaker 3: behind Gordy's Caleb Wilson love. If we take him over
1:28:48
Speaker 3: a point guard or a wing, it will be a
1:28:50
Speaker 3: wasted pick in my opinion. That's your opinion. There are
1:28:54
Speaker 3: people that like Caleb Wilson a lot and like his upside.
1:28:58
Speaker 3: This text in says, hey, Bill, great to hear you
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Speaker 3: and Gordy together. Can you see the Jazz doing whatever
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Speaker 3: is needed to move up and pick the bonsa? Well,
1:29:07
Speaker 3: well they're going. You have to get to number one
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Speaker 3: probably to do that, and I'm not sure what it
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Speaker 3: would take to do that, So probably win the lottery
1:29:15
Speaker 3: is what it would have to take to do that.
1:29:19
Speaker 3: Ryan Davidson says, win the thing. The standard is the standard.
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Speaker 3: Are we talking about Utah football or something else? Ryan,
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Speaker 3: All right, let's get you a leaderboard update, not quite
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Speaker 3: as exciting as it was a week ago with the
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Speaker 3: Masters and Rory winning his second one. But the PGA
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Speaker 3: Tour moves along. It's a train that keeps on moving
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Speaker 3: down the track. Leaderboard update of the RBC Heritage and
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Speaker 3: Round number one today as they play at Hiltonhead Island.
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Speaker 3: They're playing at Hiltonhead Island this weekend. It's the RBC Heritage.
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Speaker 3: It's big tournament. Harbor Town Links is where they play it.
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Speaker 3: They used to at Harbortown. Justin Thomas wanted a year
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Speaker 3: ago twenty million dollar perse who that is a big purse.
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Speaker 3: Week after the Masters. You're a round one leader in
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Speaker 3: the clubhouse with a sixty three. Ludbigb Obert eight under
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Speaker 3: sixty three today. Harris English a shot back in the
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Speaker 3: clubhouse at sixty four. Victor Hoveland also shot at sixty
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Speaker 3: four today. Ryan Fox is on the course through sixteen
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Speaker 3: he's at seven under par so he's got a chance
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Speaker 3: to threaten the lead or go and be your clubhouse leader.
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Speaker 3: Michael Brennan six under sixty five. Gary Woodland a fellow Jayhawk.
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Speaker 3: We didn't go to school together. He's much younger than
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Speaker 3: I am. But Gary Woodland is a really cool story
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Speaker 3: and you should read up on it just a little bit.
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Speaker 3: He had a major brain injury and his comeback, he's
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Speaker 3: been dealing with a lot of demons associated with that,
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Speaker 3: but he got its first tour win earlier this year
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Speaker 3: in a couple of years, and he's six hundred today,
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Speaker 3: sixty five and in the clubhouse sun jaym is five
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Speaker 3: under sixty six. Cepstraca also five under sixty six. Ricky
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Speaker 3: Fowler five under through fourteen holes today at Harbor Town
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Speaker 3: in Hiltonhead Island.
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Speaker 2: And there you go.
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Speaker 3: That is your leaderboard update, brought to you by our
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Speaker 3: friends at you went to golf. I'll have another leader
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Speaker 3: board up date for you coming up next hour. They'll
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Speaker 3: have more for you coming up tomorrow as well. It's
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Speaker 3: only Thursday, kind of feels like a Friday because I
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Speaker 3: usually sit in here on a Friday but not this
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Speaker 3: week round. A couple of more text messages coming in today.
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Speaker 3: We'll talk to Jordan Winn coming up after the top
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Speaker 3: of the hour. I asked, do you think Utah football
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Speaker 3: as we said one hundred and forty days out and
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Speaker 3: the roster mostly said there could still be some additions
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Speaker 3: here and there, but spring football wrapping up this week?
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Speaker 2: Do you think we see a slight improvement? You see?
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Speaker 3: We think we see the program about the same as
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Speaker 3: it was a year ago, or maybe a slight regression.
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Speaker 3: This text comes in from a Texter twenty eighty six says, Hey, Bill,
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Speaker 3: my prediction for Utah as around the eight to ten
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Speaker 3: win mark, so the range about the same. Getting Devin
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Speaker 3: and bird back will be big for this team. Also,
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Speaker 3: basketball is a little concerned about the lack of transfer
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Speaker 3: portal commitments. Hopefully they can get some here in the
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Speaker 3: near future. Really wants ae Utah basketball back again. Now
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Speaker 3: the portal's been open for just over a week now,
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Speaker 3: you haven't seen a ton of commitments out there. I
1:33:21
Speaker 3: could tell you they're working really, really hard, and you're
1:33:24
Speaker 3: gonna see probably commitments popping here in the very near future.
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Speaker 3: What should give you hope for a Utah basket as
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Speaker 3: a Utah basketball fan is they've been at this thing
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Speaker 3: for a full year now and they have been dedicated
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Speaker 3: to this roster build for the last half of the
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Speaker 3: season looking ahead, so I think you're gonna begin to
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Speaker 3: see some of that stuff coming real soon. Text in
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Speaker 3: from Spencer, Hey Bill, Can I still buy some riled
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Speaker 3: up red Ale?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
1:33:49
Speaker 3: You can, but it's not red ale anymore. It's an
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Speaker 3: amber ale now they just call it riled up. But
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Speaker 3: you can buy it at your neighborhood favorite, the Proper
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Speaker 3: Brewing Company. So head down outtown you could pick it
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Speaker 3: up at Proper Brewing Company. Shout out to Andrew and
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Speaker 3: his guys down there for producing that still and being
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Speaker 3: so kind to me over the years. Eight seven seven
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Speaker 3: three five three zero seven hundred. Text message here, Hey Bill,
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Speaker 3: glad to hear your voice again. I'm hoping for an
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Speaker 3: improved season from Utah from last year.
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Speaker 2: Number one.
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Speaker 3: Beat BYU number two, win the Big twelve Championship number three,
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Speaker 3: a playoff win would be a cherry on top for me. Well,
1:34:29
Speaker 3: I think to win a Big twelve championship, you're gonna
1:34:34
Speaker 3: have to beat BYU. Probably somewhere along the line. Whether
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Speaker 3: that's in the regular season, in the postseason, or both,
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Speaker 3: that's probably going to be the case.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, they were eleven and two last year.
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Speaker 3: I know there was some disappointment of losing the BYU
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Speaker 3: in Provo and not making the Big twelve championship game,
1:34:52
Speaker 3: but an eleven two season was still pretty darn good.
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Speaker 3: It was a good Big twelve last year. And I
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Speaker 3: really do say I say this all the time. I
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Speaker 3: think the differentference between the top three teams is very negligible.
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Speaker 2: I really do.
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Speaker 3: I think the difference between Tech, BYU, and Utah are
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Speaker 3: it's very slim. I think these teams are all close,
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Speaker 3: very close together. This texter says, Hey, Bill, I really
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Speaker 3: don't know. It seems like the offensive staff dropped off
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Speaker 3: a little bit and the offensive talent got better.
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Speaker 2: It went very well.
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Speaker 3: Maybe offset the players execute for slightly better improvement. I'm
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Speaker 3: feeling confidence that nine wins is the floor. With the
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Speaker 3: home schedule and the opponents, we could very well see
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Speaker 3: about the same as last year. The only thing I'm
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Speaker 3: certain about at the moment is hearing you back on
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Speaker 3: the radio today. Well, that's true. That is a certainty
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Speaker 3: because I've been on now for an hour and fifty
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Speaker 3: three minutes.
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Speaker 2: But thank you for that. By the way, I think
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Speaker 2: that's fair.
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Speaker 3: If you say nine wins is the floor for this team,
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Speaker 3: I'm assuming you're saying nine regular season wins, that's a
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Speaker 3: very good floor to be at. I think that they're
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Speaker 3: a ten to eleven win team this year. I do
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Speaker 3: with the schedule that they have. I know I'm an optimist.
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Speaker 3: I know people think I'm a home or I'm not.
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Speaker 3: I just really believe in what this team is and
1:36:04
Speaker 3: they were so very close a year ago. Morgan says,
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Speaker 3: we just have to beat BYU this year. I can't
1:36:10
Speaker 3: take another loss. Well, I appreciate that that's the rivalry game.
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Speaker 3: You always want to beat your rival, but you want
1:36:17
Speaker 3: to have a good season two. I think if they
1:36:19
Speaker 3: beat BYU but at a losing record, Morgan, I don't
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Speaker 3: think you'd be necessarily happy with that. Lincoln Merrill says
1:36:28
Speaker 3: is going to be a bumpy start to the season.
1:36:30
Speaker 3: We will have a lot of promise moving forward. I'm
1:36:34
Speaker 3: not sure about that. There's going to be a lot
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Speaker 3: of continuity, especially on the offensive side of the football
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Speaker 3: moving forward, and the non conference schedule isn't crazy Idaho.
1:36:46
Speaker 2: They're a one double A level program.
1:36:49
Speaker 3: Arkansas looks good on the schedule, but we're gonna see
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Speaker 3: what Arkansas has because they were a one to eight
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Speaker 3: SEC team last year and they were two and ten overall.
1:36:59
Speaker 3: It's a new coaching staff and a lot of new players,
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Speaker 3: so we'll see what happens. Eight seven seven three five
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Speaker 3: three zero seven hundred. If you want to jump in
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Speaker 3: and on board today here on the Bill Riley Show,
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Speaker 3: I've just simply been asking the question of you guys,
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Speaker 3: with one hundred and forty days until kickoff and spring
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Speaker 3: football coming to a close, what are your expectations for
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Speaker 3: the upcoming season? And these can change, by the way,
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Speaker 3: these can change. We are one hundred and forty days out,
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Speaker 3: it's mid April, so absolutely positively, we're four and a
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Speaker 3: half months away from the start of the season.
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Speaker 2: But what are you feeling today?
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Speaker 3: Slightly improved from a year ago, maybe about the same
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Speaker 3: as a year ago, maybe a slight regression, and if so,
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Speaker 3: tell me why. We'll read some of those as we go.
1:37:39
Speaker 3: We'll ask that same question to Jordan win when he
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Speaker 3: joins us coming up here in just a couple of
1:37:44
Speaker 3: minutes on the program, but I think slightly improved is
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Speaker 3: what I'm expecting. And I think slightly improved because there's
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Speaker 3: a kind of a new vibe and a new energy
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Speaker 3: around the program this year, and I think the return
1:37:58
Speaker 3: of the quarterback in and some of the real upgrades
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Speaker 3: in the skill position area lead to a slightly improved season.
1:38:06
Speaker 3: And the reason I say slightly improved is it's hard
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Speaker 3: to greatly improve over an eleven win season. So I'll
1:38:13
Speaker 3: say slightly improved coming up this year. Text message in
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Speaker 3: from Darren Hey, Darren says, Bill, it's the resident BYU
1:38:21
Speaker 3: fan chiming in here?
1:38:23
Speaker 2: How are you like?
1:38:24
Speaker 3: Always, especially when coming up to Rice Cycle Stadium? The
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Speaker 3: rivalry game scares the crap out of me.
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Speaker 8: This year.
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Speaker 3: I say this, and I have said this for twenty
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Speaker 3: five years now. I've lived in this state twenty five years.
1:38:38
Speaker 3: Coming up in June, I don't really think the venue
1:38:43
Speaker 3: matters when it comes to that particular game. Because Utah
1:38:47
Speaker 3: has won frequently in Provo and BYU has won in
1:38:51
Speaker 3: Salt Lake City. I think that that game shored. Would
1:38:55
Speaker 3: you rather be at Rice Cycles? Probably? So if you're Utah,
1:38:59
Speaker 3: would you rather be Provo at Lavelle Edwards. If your by,
1:39:02
Speaker 3: you probably sell. But I think there is so much
1:39:05
Speaker 3: familiarity between the programs and that will continue still that
1:39:11
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that the location plays a huge role
1:39:14
Speaker 3: in it. It does for the fans, I get that
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Speaker 3: part of it, but for the teams themselves, I'm not
1:39:21
Speaker 3: sure that it really does. Text message in from Brett
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Speaker 3: at eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
1:39:30
Speaker 3: Brett says Utah will be slightly improved, but with the
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Speaker 3: same record. If that makes sense, absolutely, ten and two
1:39:38
Speaker 3: regular season. You can be slightly improved with a ten
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Speaker 3: and two record, and I think ten and two this
1:39:45
Speaker 3: year could be good enough to get you to the
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Speaker 3: Big Twelve Championship Game. Eleven and two overall, with a
1:39:52
Speaker 3: Big Twelve Championship Game win will get you in the
1:39:55
Speaker 3: College Football playoff. But yes, Brett, that does make sense.
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Speaker 3: Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. I
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Speaker 3: gave you three names earlier if you missed the first
1:40:06
Speaker 3: hour of the show to kind of keep an eye
1:40:08
Speaker 3: on names heading to fall camp. One guy is a
1:40:13
Speaker 3: returner who was productive last year. The next guy is
1:40:17
Speaker 3: a new face that had production someplace else, and the
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Speaker 3: other guy is a new face overall. The new face
1:40:23
Speaker 3: overall is Kelvin Obot. I think we all expect Kelvin
1:40:27
Speaker 3: Obot to have an impact on Utah football. Hearing from
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Speaker 3: his head coach and having him name check Kelvin the
1:40:33
Speaker 3: other day in the post practice media session just kind
1:40:36
Speaker 3: of reinforced that that young man is really good and
1:40:39
Speaker 3: we'll play a role on the Utah offensive line this fall.
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Speaker 2: The new guy with some production elsewhere who I think
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Speaker 2: could play a nice.
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Speaker 3: Role this fall is Ethan Day, the defensive end transfer
1:40:51
Speaker 3: from North Texas. Ethan Day is going to be in
1:40:53
Speaker 3: the rotation with Cash Dylan and Lance Holdsklaw as one
1:40:58
Speaker 3: of probably the top three defensive ends I think heading
1:41:01
Speaker 3: to fall camp. And then the third name, just to
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Speaker 3: kind of file away, who I think will be an
1:41:06
Speaker 3: impact this fall is Daniel Bray.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
1:41:08
Speaker 3: Could I say Devin Dan Pier short? Can I say
1:41:10
Speaker 3: Bird Fickland short? Could I say you know Braydon Pagan?
1:41:13
Speaker 3: But I'm giving you Daniel Bray because I think Daniel
1:41:16
Speaker 3: Bray might end up being your running back too, And
1:41:19
Speaker 3: I think is going to be used in some very
1:41:21
Speaker 3: creative ways. And I think from what we saw as
1:41:23
Speaker 3: a freshman and what we're seeing this spring. I think
1:41:27
Speaker 3: he's gonna make a nice jump from that freshman to
1:41:28
Speaker 3: sophomore year. So I'll put Daniel Bray on that list
1:41:32
Speaker 3: of a third guy that I think could be an
1:41:33
Speaker 3: impact guy to Derek says we could have a losing record,
1:41:40
Speaker 3: but I would still be happy as long as we
1:41:42
Speaker 3: beat BYU.
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Speaker 2: See, that's a weird take for me.
1:41:47
Speaker 3: I know the rivalry game in any rivalry is important,
1:41:51
Speaker 3: but Utah's football standard is too high. I just, Derek,
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Speaker 3: I just don't believe that if you are truly a
1:41:57
Speaker 3: big time fan, I would say the same thing for
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Speaker 3: BYU fan. You beat Utah but had a losing record,
1:42:03
Speaker 3: you'd be happy. I just I don't believe any fan
1:42:06
Speaker 3: of a program. Now, it's one thing if your program's
1:42:08
Speaker 3: way down, like you know, MI alma mater Kansas. They
1:42:13
Speaker 3: haven't beaten Kansas State in like eighteen years. So if
1:42:17
Speaker 3: they ended up six and six or five and seven
1:42:20
Speaker 3: but beat Kansas State, I bet there would be some
1:42:22
Speaker 3: Kansas fans that were truly happy. But I can't believe
1:42:24
Speaker 3: many Utah fans would say we could have a losing record,
1:42:29
Speaker 3: but as long as we beat BYU, I'd be happy.
1:42:31
Speaker 3: That's just that's a weird take from a fan of
1:42:34
Speaker 3: a program that's set a higher standard. Buddy says, I
1:42:39
Speaker 3: believe will be improved all the way around and with
1:42:41
Speaker 3: the schedule, could very well go undefeated up to the
1:42:43
Speaker 3: big twelve championship game. That text message is kind of quiet,
1:42:50
Speaker 3: kind of all over the place. Jordan Wynn coming up
1:42:58
Speaker 3: here in a minute. One more text message, Hey Bill,
1:43:02
Speaker 3: I think we're on our way to a great season.
1:43:03
Speaker 3: Maybe eleven to one, twelve and zero. Hope to see
1:43:06
Speaker 3: the ball to the big tight end out of modern day.
1:43:10
Speaker 3: Let him rumble, can't wait semi Yeah, that could be fun.
1:43:15
Speaker 3: He is a viral and social media sensation. Right now,
1:43:19
Speaker 3: all right, before we go to break, let's check in
1:43:21
Speaker 3: with Charles Clinton. He's down at toanode Vista golf course
1:43:25
Speaker 3: and they've got a lot of good stuff going on
1:43:27
Speaker 3: right now.
1:43:27
Speaker 2: Charles, how are you?
1:43:29
Speaker 7: Hi?
1:43:29
Speaker 8: How are you? I'm great today, but we're here all right.
1:43:33
Speaker 3: Tell me a little bit about the course, what people
1:43:35
Speaker 3: need to know about the upcoming tournaments, hotel discounts, golf discounts,
1:43:39
Speaker 3: all that stuff.
1:43:41
Speaker 8: Well, I'll tell you what if you're looking to get
1:43:43
Speaker 8: away from the hustle and bustle of Salt Lake, crowded
1:43:47
Speaker 8: courses and everything. Get out here and come play during
1:43:51
Speaker 8: the week. A lot of times you can get out
1:43:53
Speaker 8: and play the twosome, sometimes even as a single. The wildlife,
1:43:58
Speaker 8: the antelope are starting to show up for this season,
1:44:00
Speaker 8: so they're kind of cool out there. And if you're
1:44:04
Speaker 8: running any geese, you can take as many as you want,
1:44:06
Speaker 8: no extra charge.
1:44:07
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody wants geese on their golf course,
1:44:10
Speaker 3: that's for sure. Where still want to act for people
1:44:12
Speaker 3: that aren't familiar.
1:44:13
Speaker 8: So we are out here in West Wendover, Nevada, right
1:44:17
Speaker 8: where all the casinos are at. Makes a great day
1:44:20
Speaker 8: if you come out play some golf here in the day,
1:44:24
Speaker 8: go enjoy the casinos, the restaurants, and they're gaming at night.
1:44:29
Speaker 8: They got some hotels stay and play packages. You can
1:44:32
Speaker 8: get some discounted rates on the golf if you're staying
1:44:35
Speaker 8: at the hotels there. So makes for a good little
1:44:39
Speaker 8: fun trip. And we've got some upcoming tournaments. We were
1:44:43
Speaker 8: supposed to have our Coma Cozee tournament today, but with
1:44:47
Speaker 8: the weather we postponed it one more week to the
1:44:49
Speaker 8: twenty third four person scramble. It's a very unique golf tournament.
1:44:55
Speaker 8: It's like a cross country tournament. So if anybody's interested,
1:44:58
Speaker 8: we still have time to get It's fifty bucks the player.
1:45:02
Speaker 2: So there you go.
1:45:03
Speaker 8: Include everything.
1:45:04
Speaker 3: What's the phone number, what's the website, Charles if they're
1:45:06
Speaker 3: interested in getting some more information, our.
1:45:09
Speaker 8: Phone numbers seven, seven, five, six, six four, forty three
1:45:14
Speaker 8: hundred and go to golf Tawana Vista dot com.
1:45:19
Speaker 3: To Onanavista golf Course, West Wendover. Great location for you
1:45:22
Speaker 3: to go out and play and do a little gambling
1:45:25
Speaker 3: at night, maybe see a show as well.
1:45:26
Speaker 2: Charles, thanks so much. We'll talk to you soon.
1:45:28
Speaker 8: Okay, thank you, Charles Clinton.
1:45:30
Speaker 3: From to Oneavista Golf Course and West Wendover. Short time
1:45:33
Speaker 3: out back with Jordan Wyin, former Utah quarterback. Thoughts on
1:45:36
Speaker 3: the spring and what lies ahead later this year from
1:45:39
Speaker 3: Jordan coming up. You're at ESPN seven hundred and ninety
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Speaker 3: two one FM.
1:45:47
Speaker 1: You were listening to about Sean O'Connell show, your source
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Speaker 1: for the best youth football coverage. Here's oc from the
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Speaker 1: Murdoch Hyundai studio of ESPN seven hundred ninety two to one.
1:45:57
Speaker 3: Half as Riley INFROC today on a Thursday. Sean's out
1:46:02
Speaker 3: doing some fighting stuff. He'll be back next week. Appreciate
1:46:05
Speaker 3: him allowing me to sit in today for him. Two
1:46:08
Speaker 3: hours down, one hour to go. We're gonna talk some
1:46:10
Speaker 3: playoff hockey coming up as a Mammoth will play the
1:46:12
Speaker 3: Golden Knights in the opening round to the NHL Stanley
1:46:15
Speaker 3: Cup Playoffs beginning Sunday in Las Vegas. Play by play
1:46:18
Speaker 3: man Mike Fulta of the Mammoth will join us. Coming
1:46:20
Speaker 3: up here at about twenty twenty five minutes or so
1:46:23
Speaker 3: here on Utah's number one Sports Talk. Spring football winding
1:46:26
Speaker 3: down at the U final week of practice. No spring
1:46:29
Speaker 3: football game, just some extra practices. Fan faster kind of
1:46:33
Speaker 3: what is it the twenty two for you fan experience
1:46:36
Speaker 3: Fan Day coming up on Saturday four fans up at
1:46:39
Speaker 3: the Spence ecles Field House from four thirty to six.
1:46:41
Speaker 3: You can go up there, get autographs, meet the team,
1:46:43
Speaker 3: meet the staff, all that good stuff and have some
1:46:46
Speaker 3: fun with that. Coming up on Saturday. Our next guest,
1:46:50
Speaker 3: he's probably happy that there's no spring football game, probably
1:46:53
Speaker 3: has a little PTSD from spring football games.
1:46:56
Speaker 2: Friend of the program.
1:46:57
Speaker 3: When I used to host this thing friend in general,
1:47:00
Speaker 3: Utah quarterback Jordan Winn joining us here to talk a
1:47:02
Speaker 3: little Utah football.
1:47:03
Speaker 2: What's up, Jordan, how are you?
1:47:05
Speaker 6: I don't want to talk about spring football games.
1:47:07
Speaker 3: I didn't figure you probably did because there's probably a
1:47:11
Speaker 3: little PTSD there, But so you're probably not anti Morgan Scalley,
1:47:15
Speaker 3: just going let's give us an extra practice, not worry
1:47:17
Speaker 3: about the game, right.
1:47:19
Speaker 8: Yeah.
1:47:19
Speaker 6: I think that's a great idea, scali Yeah, obviously not
1:47:22
Speaker 6: a great memory for me, but no issue there with
1:47:26
Speaker 6: an extra practice, I think that would be great.
1:47:28
Speaker 3: Well, no, And to be very fair, Jordan, you know
1:47:30
Speaker 3: this the last probably seven, eight, nine, even maybe ten years,
1:47:34
Speaker 3: the spring football game. You know, some of your better
1:47:36
Speaker 3: players probably aren't even playing anyway. Most they're holding out
1:47:40
Speaker 3: half the roster anyway. So if you can get an
1:47:42
Speaker 3: extra practice in, they'll still have a fan fast day
1:47:45
Speaker 3: for the fans on Saturday.
1:47:46
Speaker 2: It's it's a win for everybody, I think.
1:47:48
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:47:49
Speaker 6: So yeah, I went across the board. Like you said,
1:47:51
Speaker 6: a lot of the guys don't even play, and as
1:47:53
Speaker 6: long as the fans get to hang out and interact
1:47:56
Speaker 6: with the players after the yeah, it's good for everybody there.
1:47:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, you and I haven't talked much at all since,
1:48:02
Speaker 3: you know, kind of the off season and the coach
1:48:03
Speaker 3: coaching changed. Obviously I don't I don't do the radio
1:48:06
Speaker 3: show anymore. We haven't bumped into each other. But as
1:48:08
Speaker 3: as you've watched this kind of locally but from a distance,
1:48:12
Speaker 3: how have you made what have you made of the
1:48:14
Speaker 3: change and how Morgan's kind of brought the new staff
1:48:17
Speaker 3: in and added in the portal and kind of put
1:48:19
Speaker 3: his own spin on things this spring.
1:48:22
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think, you know, with a situation how it is,
1:48:27
Speaker 6: there's never a perfect, you know, scenario, and so from
1:48:31
Speaker 6: an outside perspective, I thought everything was handled about it
1:48:34
Speaker 6: as well as it could be. You know, there's continual
1:48:37
Speaker 6: information that comes out and it is what it is.
1:48:40
Speaker 6: But I think it's it's another you know, it's a
1:48:42
Speaker 6: win across the board. I think Kyle gets to go
1:48:44
Speaker 6: to a program where there's certainly no shortage of gosh, tradition, resources,
1:48:49
Speaker 6: things of that nature, and and uh kind of continue
1:48:52
Speaker 6: on with his passion and and you know, Morgan gets
1:48:55
Speaker 6: a fresh you know, it's a clean, new fresh start
1:48:57
Speaker 6: for Utah football. And I think what he's able to
1:49:00
Speaker 6: do so far and I mean, gosh, I'm reading about
1:49:03
Speaker 6: him putting up his own money into the program and
1:49:06
Speaker 6: things like that. I mean, he's a Utah man through
1:49:07
Speaker 6: and through, and it's exciting to see, you know, the
1:49:10
Speaker 6: impact he's already making. And you know, I'm again excited
1:49:13
Speaker 6: for the fall to see how he does.
1:49:15
Speaker 3: There's a real energy about the program this spring. Not
1:49:18
Speaker 3: that there was anything wrong with the energy before, but
1:49:20
Speaker 3: it's just kind of a new, different vibe and energy.
1:49:23
Speaker 3: And I've said this before, I said, you know, new
1:49:28
Speaker 3: and change. People always fight against change until you kind
1:49:30
Speaker 3: of experience it and say, oh okay, that's okay. But
1:49:33
Speaker 3: being up there and being around this coaching staff, he's
1:49:36
Speaker 3: got about a lot of famous and famous and familiar
1:49:39
Speaker 3: names coming back, Jordan Gross, Derek Odom, guys that have
1:49:43
Speaker 3: been part of the program before, and some new faces too.
1:49:46
Speaker 3: There's a real good energy and vibe about things. I'm
1:49:48
Speaker 3: not sure if you've gone up to a practice or
1:49:50
Speaker 3: if you've been around to the alumni any alumni stuff,
1:49:52
Speaker 3: but it's it's it's really it's been a fun spring
1:49:56
Speaker 3: so far.
1:49:57
Speaker 6: Yeah, I haven't had a chance to get up there,
1:49:59
Speaker 6: but I've been here, you know, I've heard nothing but
1:50:01
Speaker 6: good things. And look, yeah everyone's a little resistant to
1:50:04
Speaker 6: change and what's new in the unknown. But look, I
1:50:08
Speaker 6: was around Skelley for a long time, still talk to him.
1:50:10
Speaker 6: He's he's It's funny because Kyle has just been he
1:50:14
Speaker 6: had been there for so long, right, like everybody knew
1:50:17
Speaker 6: how Kyle was going to run the program. And so
1:50:19
Speaker 6: you know, Morgan brings in a fresh face. Obviously he's
1:50:22
Speaker 6: younger than Kyle, so you know, a younger individual that's
1:50:27
Speaker 6: coming in with a lot of passion, excitement. It's a
1:50:29
Speaker 6: fresh start, it's a whole new it's it's it's new,
1:50:32
Speaker 6: it's fun. So it's not surprising to hear that the
1:50:35
Speaker 6: environment up there is you know, falling suit in that nature.
1:50:38
Speaker 6: And again it's exciting to see. And you know, you
1:50:42
Speaker 6: got a guy that played like his whole life is here.
1:50:44
Speaker 6: He grew up here, he played there like he and
1:50:47
Speaker 6: not that Kyle didn't bleed red. Kyle's a Utah guy,
1:50:50
Speaker 6: threw and through even though he played for the Blue
1:50:52
Speaker 6: team a long time ago. But I mean Morgan's as
1:50:54
Speaker 6: Utah as it gets. So I can't imagine it not
1:50:57
Speaker 6: being high energy all the time in that building.
1:50:59
Speaker 3: Right now.
1:51:00
Speaker 2: Well, because you know him and he was on staff
1:51:03
Speaker 2: when you played there.
1:51:04
Speaker 3: Anybody that's been around Morgan knows how organized, how meticulous,
1:51:08
Speaker 3: how detail oriented he is. And the fact that he's
1:51:11
Speaker 3: known this was going to be his job at some
1:51:13
Speaker 3: point in time, you know, he's been planning for it.
1:51:15
Speaker 3: So as you kind of alluded to earlier, and I've
1:51:18
Speaker 3: said multiple times, this is as smooth a transition as
1:51:22
Speaker 3: you could have after a long time coach was there,
1:51:25
Speaker 3: and now you've got a guy that's not only knows
1:51:27
Speaker 3: the program inside now was part of the program, is
1:51:29
Speaker 3: DNA's part of the programs. He's been working towards this
1:51:33
Speaker 3: and preparing for this for a long time.
1:51:36
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I mean you said it. I don't know
1:51:39
Speaker 6: if there's a so I can't imagine many people being
1:51:43
Speaker 6: more meticulous and detail oriented than Morgan. I mean, the
1:51:47
Speaker 6: guy is you know, a Svalt when it comes to football,
1:51:50
Speaker 6: when it comes to defense, and it's you know, anybody
1:51:53
Speaker 6: that's paid close attention, that guy dials it up exactly
1:51:57
Speaker 6: at the right time more often than not. And that
1:51:59
Speaker 6: all comes you know, the being detail oriented and being
1:52:03
Speaker 6: able to study and then have the confidence to kind
1:52:06
Speaker 6: of match that and all those things are you know
1:52:10
Speaker 6: why he was named the coach in waiting And gosh,
1:52:14
Speaker 6: like you said, you give a guy a couple of years.
1:52:16
Speaker 6: I know it kept kind of getting tragged on because
1:52:19
Speaker 6: Kyle kept coming back. But you give a guy a
1:52:21
Speaker 6: couple of years to really process and think about how
1:52:24
Speaker 6: he wants to do things and who he wants to
1:52:26
Speaker 6: bring in and how he wants to go about it.
1:52:29
Speaker 6: And and then couple that with it's a guy like
1:52:31
Speaker 6: Morgan Scalley. I mean, gosh, it's it's it's going to
1:52:34
Speaker 6: be exciting to see and I can't imagine this isn't
1:52:37
Speaker 6: you know, almost exactly how he had it, you know,
1:52:39
Speaker 6: in his head, going like working the plan out exactly
1:52:43
Speaker 6: how he thought it would be.
1:52:44
Speaker 3: Well, but you talk quarterback Jordan Wynn with us here
1:52:46
Speaker 3: on the Shan O'Connell show today on ESPN seven hundred,
1:52:49
Speaker 3: Bill Riley sitting in for OC today. So you're a fan,
1:52:53
Speaker 3: but you're also in a lum and a guy that
1:52:56
Speaker 3: bled in that program too. Just as you sit back
1:53:01
Speaker 3: and kind of see some of the reports and talk
1:53:03
Speaker 3: to some people, what what has you most kind of
1:53:05
Speaker 3: intrigued or interested about? Where the program is and where
1:53:09
Speaker 3: it's going this spring and heading toward the fall.
1:53:12
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I just I think the buzz really
1:53:14
Speaker 6: is what's most interesting, And not that it was stagnant
1:53:18
Speaker 6: with Kyle and or anything, but it's just I'm not
1:53:22
Speaker 6: super resistant to change. I think change is a good thing.
1:53:25
Speaker 6: I think change is exciting and gives you a fresh
1:53:27
Speaker 6: start and a fresh look at things.
1:53:28
Speaker 7: And so.
1:53:31
Speaker 6: You know, Kyle's way was proven to be successful, you know,
1:53:34
Speaker 6: year in and year out for the most part, and
1:53:36
Speaker 6: so a couple of that kind of consistency more than
1:53:40
Speaker 6: being able to be a part of all that time.
1:53:42
Speaker 6: And now with a fresh start, fresh face, you know,
1:53:46
Speaker 6: bringing in an offensive staff like how he has, I mean,
1:53:51
Speaker 6: it's it's going to be fun to watch, you know,
1:53:54
Speaker 6: I think from a fans perspective, and even though Alumnia's perspective,
1:53:59
Speaker 6: you know, we all anybody that knows Morgan is rooting
1:54:02
Speaker 6: for him. Like I don't think there's a single guy
1:54:04
Speaker 6: that's not rooting for Morgan Scalley that that knows. And
1:54:06
Speaker 6: the guys, you know, as good as it gets, you know,
1:54:11
Speaker 6: not only as a coach, but as a person, and
1:54:13
Speaker 6: so I know he's going to put everything into this
1:54:17
Speaker 6: and you know, again, I feel like it's going to
1:54:19
Speaker 6: be similar some similar talking points like we've had in
1:54:22
Speaker 6: the past, Bill like what's the offense going to look like?
1:54:24
Speaker 6: Are they going to stretch the field? Finally, are we
1:54:26
Speaker 6: going to see the scoreboard lit up? Because God knows
1:54:29
Speaker 6: they could play defense. So it's just you know, getting
1:54:32
Speaker 6: that other side squared away. And that's also we'll be
1:54:36
Speaker 6: new to see how how Morgan handles the offense, you know,
1:54:39
Speaker 6: if he wants more control or less control, and how
1:54:43
Speaker 6: he plays that out and how it goes. So again,
1:54:46
Speaker 6: a lot of things that are new, but they're exciting
1:54:48
Speaker 6: to watch.
1:54:49
Speaker 2: Well.
1:54:49
Speaker 3: I mean, Kevin mcgibn's a new offensive coordinator and talking
1:54:53
Speaker 3: to Kevin and talking to people that have played for
1:54:56
Speaker 3: or with Kevin. I had Bryce and Barnes on the
1:54:59
Speaker 3: rad last week when I filled in for Sean. Everybody
1:55:02
Speaker 3: speaks glowingly about Kevin. And one thing that's very similar
1:55:06
Speaker 3: to me between he and even Jason Beck who was
1:55:09
Speaker 3: here a year ago, is Jason was very malleable with
1:55:12
Speaker 3: his offense. And that's what Kyle wanted when he hired
1:55:14
Speaker 3: him on. Wanted somebody who was pretty malleable with that offense, because,
1:55:18
Speaker 3: as you know, Jordan keeping guys for three or four
1:55:21
Speaker 3: years just doesn't happen as often anymore in collegiate athletics.
1:55:25
Speaker 3: But it kind of feels when I talk to people
1:55:27
Speaker 3: about Kevin mcgiven, he's very much the same way. He's
1:55:31
Speaker 3: very much adjust his offense. He knows what he wants
1:55:34
Speaker 3: to do, indeed, but he tweaks it to the personnel
1:55:36
Speaker 3: that he has. He turned Bryce and Barnes and you
1:55:39
Speaker 3: watch Bryson play here into an All conference quarterback in
1:55:43
Speaker 3: the Mount West last year at Utah State. I'm really
1:55:45
Speaker 3: excited to see what he can do with Devin dan
1:55:48
Speaker 3: Pier and Bird Ficklin.
1:55:50
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean yeah, I saw what Bryson was able
1:55:53
Speaker 6: to do up there, and so for gosh, for like
1:55:55
Speaker 6: a million yards and ran around and made plays. And
1:55:58
Speaker 6: so you give.
1:56:01
Speaker 2: A coordinator some talent.
1:56:02
Speaker 6: Like it there is in damp Pierre and Fickland and
1:56:05
Speaker 6: let them.
1:56:05
Speaker 1: Roll with it.
1:56:06
Speaker 6: You know, it'll be exciting to watch again. I think,
1:56:11
Speaker 6: you know, not not to take away from what Beck did.
1:56:13
Speaker 6: I think he was doing the best. You know, he
1:56:15
Speaker 6: was calling the game the best he could with trying
1:56:17
Speaker 6: to maximize the talent he had and and you know,
1:56:20
Speaker 6: again we've we've grown used to these discussions where it's like, well,
1:56:24
Speaker 6: like can we put up points? They put up points
1:56:25
Speaker 6: last year. You know, they had a couple of games
1:56:27
Speaker 6: where they didn't, but they put up points last year.
1:56:29
Speaker 6: I don't know if it was quote unquote pretty points.
1:56:33
Speaker 6: They ran the ball down people's throat is what they did,
1:56:35
Speaker 6: and gashed people in the run game and dam Pier
1:56:37
Speaker 6: was making plays with his legs and so it was Bird,
1:56:40
Speaker 6: Fickland and these guys. But it'll be interesting to see,
1:56:43
Speaker 6: you know, what what they do with the offense. And
1:56:46
Speaker 6: again in Utah State, I mean I see their scores
1:56:49
Speaker 6: and you know, follow the box scores and see what
1:56:52
Speaker 6: they're doing on offense, Like it seems like they were
1:56:54
Speaker 6: lying people up. And I can't imagine it's not a
1:56:58
Speaker 6: fairly significant talent upgrade coming down here. That's not a
1:57:01
Speaker 6: shot against Utah State. It just is what it is.
1:57:03
Speaker 6: But so, yeah, all those things, you know, I'm excited
1:57:08
Speaker 6: to see what the offense looks like.
1:57:09
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, me too. Me same here, me too.
1:57:13
Speaker 3: From a quarterback standpoint, you watched Devon play last year,
1:57:16
Speaker 3: and you know we found out after the season. He
1:57:18
Speaker 3: wasn't one hundred percent, not that many quarterbacks are completely
1:57:22
Speaker 3: but he was dealing with some pretty significant injuries that
1:57:24
Speaker 3: he was playing through last year and was still able
1:57:27
Speaker 3: to put up really good numbers and leave Utah to
1:57:30
Speaker 3: eleven wins. Bird Fickland certainly helped that too. But from
1:57:33
Speaker 3: a quarterback and standpoint, what would you like to see
1:57:36
Speaker 3: in the evolution of Devon this year as he goes
1:57:39
Speaker 3: from his junior to senior year. And you know, last
1:57:42
Speaker 3: year we saw him, you know, the the interceptions were
1:57:45
Speaker 3: way down from where he was at New Mexico. What's
1:57:48
Speaker 3: the step you'd like to see him take this year?
1:57:50
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think his ability to take care
1:57:54
Speaker 6: of the football is well. He does a really good
1:57:56
Speaker 6: job of that, right, And I think that also was
1:57:58
Speaker 6: part of the DNA of the program, Mikyle. I mean
1:58:01
Speaker 6: that was like planning a wain. Number one was take
1:58:02
Speaker 6: care of football. But we'll play great defenses planning to
1:58:07
Speaker 6: win number one. Uh No, I think. Look, I think
1:58:10
Speaker 6: the only thing I'd like to see built upon is
1:58:13
Speaker 6: just some more shots down the field. Like and I
1:58:16
Speaker 6: feel like a broken record. I feel like every year
1:58:17
Speaker 6: we kind of talk about this, but just the ability
1:58:21
Speaker 6: to take the top off the coverage. I think you
1:58:23
Speaker 6: look at some of these, you know, prolific offenses in
1:58:27
Speaker 6: college football, what do.
1:58:28
Speaker 7: They all do?
1:58:28
Speaker 6: They all take shots down the field. And you know,
1:58:31
Speaker 6: you look at like what Hypel does at Tennessee spreading
1:58:34
Speaker 6: people out and taking shots. I mean they throw four
1:58:36
Speaker 6: verts like it seems like every other play you don't see.
1:58:40
Speaker 6: You don't need to see that at Utah. But just
1:58:42
Speaker 6: the ability to stretch the field. I think what's been
1:58:46
Speaker 6: built in the program in terms of like recruiting the
1:58:51
Speaker 6: front five and getting these you know, highly talented running
1:58:54
Speaker 6: backs in the building and the evolution of the dual
1:58:57
Speaker 6: threat quarterback. Utah knows how to run football and take
1:59:03
Speaker 6: care of it and you know, play smart football and
1:59:06
Speaker 6: all of those things. I think from a fans perspective,
1:59:10
Speaker 6: we're just waiting to see, you know, fifty yard touchdown
1:59:13
Speaker 6: throws the ball traveling.
1:59:15
Speaker 3: Down the air.
1:59:15
Speaker 6: I mean, that was all I wanted to do when
1:59:16
Speaker 6: I was nineteen, is I'd walk in, I'd walk into
1:59:19
Speaker 6: meetings with Dave Tramp and say how many times can
1:59:22
Speaker 6: you call for versts today? Because that's all that I
1:59:23
Speaker 6: want to throw to throw the ball as far as
1:59:25
Speaker 6: I can and throw touchdowns, and that's that's the schoolyard
1:59:29
Speaker 6: football that I think most fans love to watch. Like
1:59:33
Speaker 6: they were eleven games last year, I still think there's
1:59:36
Speaker 6: a little bit left to be desired from from some
1:59:38
Speaker 6: of the fan base in terms of the offense. And
1:59:40
Speaker 6: I think it's just the like electrical feel of taking
1:59:44
Speaker 6: shots down the field. If they can put that together,
1:59:46
Speaker 6: whether it's Dampire Ficklin, however that looks, I mean, god,
1:59:49
Speaker 6: they're they're talented enough.
1:59:52
Speaker 7: You know.
1:59:52
Speaker 6: Again, sky's the limit. I don't know. It's the Big
1:59:55
Speaker 6: twelve Conference. You know, it's as strong as conferences have
1:59:58
Speaker 6: been in the past that Utah has been in right,
2:00:00
Speaker 6: I think it's pretty top heavy, and so you have
2:00:03
Speaker 6: passed the Texas tex and those guys down in provo
2:00:06
Speaker 6: like a queer path to the postseason.
2:00:11
Speaker 3: Hey, Jordan, speaking of the deep shots, because you played
2:00:15
Speaker 3: for Kyle Whittingham how much because he liked to run
2:00:21
Speaker 3: the ball, he liked to protect the ball, and when
2:00:23
Speaker 3: you had offensive lines like he did and things like that,
2:00:25
Speaker 3: that's fine. But today's day and age, we see a
2:00:27
Speaker 3: lot more of the aired out game of college football.
2:00:31
Speaker 3: How much do you think Utah's lack of deep shots
2:00:34
Speaker 3: and those four verts or three verts or just taking
2:00:38
Speaker 3: shots down the field through the years was personnel or
2:00:43
Speaker 3: was it philosophy or you know, it's probably a little bit.
2:00:46
Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's not one or the other.
2:00:48
Speaker 3: But if you had to break it down percentage wise,
2:00:51
Speaker 3: was it more the coach saying I don't want to
2:00:52
Speaker 3: do that, let's just take short shots and run it.
2:00:55
Speaker 3: Or do you think Utah hasn't necessarily had the personnel
2:00:58
Speaker 3: over the years to take those shots?
2:01:00
Speaker 8: Yeah?
2:01:01
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, that's a good question. Again, probably probably
2:01:04
Speaker 6: a little of both. I don't I go back like
2:01:07
Speaker 6: my first two years, in particular with with Dave Taman
2:01:10
Speaker 6: Aaron Roderick, we were throwing the ball downfield to Jeremy
2:01:13
Speaker 6: Brooks and David Reid and we were taking shots. And
2:01:16
Speaker 6: again I was sitting back saying, how far can I
2:01:19
Speaker 6: throw this ball? How many people can I get out
2:01:21
Speaker 6: of their seats and get people excited?
2:01:23
Speaker 5: Right?
2:01:24
Speaker 6: And you know, you look as the progression has has gone,
2:01:28
Speaker 6: like we had clear I had a clear number one
2:01:30
Speaker 6: always it was it was David Reid, Jeremy Brooks, and
2:01:32
Speaker 6: then it was Devonte Christopher. All those guys could take
2:01:35
Speaker 6: the top off the coverage and could get downfieled dres
2:01:38
Speaker 6: Anderson another guy that could take the top off and
2:01:40
Speaker 6: get downfield. I don't know if they've had a guy
2:01:45
Speaker 6: like similar to that in a while, and maybe they haven't.
2:01:48
Speaker 6: It just hasn't. That's where like partially some of the
2:01:50
Speaker 6: scheme and what Kyle would want it to be done, like,
2:01:53
Speaker 6: we just haven't seen that.
2:01:54
Speaker 4: And so.
2:01:57
Speaker 6: I think if they can find that guy, that's, you know,
2:01:59
Speaker 6: it's through like a true number one, like we called
2:02:02
Speaker 6: him the X receiver when I was playing, like a
2:02:03
Speaker 6: true ex a guy that's like anytime this guy is
2:02:06
Speaker 6: one on one coverage you're throwing, you're taking a deep
2:02:09
Speaker 6: shot to this guy. If they have that, and then
2:02:12
Speaker 6: you couple it with, you know, if Morgan can you know,
2:02:16
Speaker 6: find his his niche in terms of how he wants
2:02:19
Speaker 6: the offense to be ran and allow you know, the
2:02:23
Speaker 6: players to make plays. And not that Kyle didn't do that,
2:02:26
Speaker 6: but we all know Kyle wanted to run football and
2:02:28
Speaker 6: win football games that way. I think if they can
2:02:31
Speaker 6: put that together, like that's the only thing I see
2:02:34
Speaker 6: missing from these teams you know, even like the Rose
2:02:37
Speaker 6: Bowl teams like it was so tight end heavy with
2:02:41
Speaker 6: Keithy and kincaid and running the football. You know, it's
2:02:46
Speaker 6: like and partially probably because Cam had some injuries as well,
2:02:50
Speaker 6: but it's like, if you're the guy that's healthy and
2:02:52
Speaker 6: then you have a receiver that can get down the field,
2:02:54
Speaker 6: like that's all that they need. And then this offense
2:02:56
Speaker 6: is so wide open because you pair that with a
2:02:59
Speaker 6: running game, it's really hard to defend.
2:03:01
Speaker 3: Well, they appear to have that personnel. They added Brayden
2:03:05
Speaker 3: Pagan from Utah State, began at UCLA last year, played
2:03:10
Speaker 3: with Kevin mcgiven. Had sixty catches for nine hundred and
2:03:13
Speaker 3: twenty six yards. It was averaging fifteen yards to catch.
2:03:17
Speaker 3: They added a kid from Mississippi State that came back
2:03:19
Speaker 3: which had bumpus who was a speed guy.
2:03:21
Speaker 2: Ricky Johnson did can get down the field.
2:03:24
Speaker 3: Kylie Scholz was a kid at San Jose State that
2:03:27
Speaker 3: had over seven hundred yards receiving, was getting fifteen sixteen
2:03:30
Speaker 3: yards to catch last year. And then they bring back
2:03:32
Speaker 3: Larry Simmons, who at the end of the year last
2:03:34
Speaker 3: year was kind of turning into a big play guy.
2:03:36
Speaker 3: So it kind of feels like, right now, Jordan, they've
2:03:39
Speaker 3: got some of those guys that in theory can stretch
2:03:42
Speaker 3: that defense.
2:03:44
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's I mean then so now it just becomes, hey,
2:03:47
Speaker 6: let's use them, right Like that's I think the best
2:03:52
Speaker 6: mark of an offensive coordinator is using all eleven and
2:03:56
Speaker 6: using the entire field. If you can do that consistently,
2:04:01
Speaker 6: I mean, that puts a lot of strain on a defense.
2:04:04
Speaker 6: And I think Morgan would even be the first to
2:04:06
Speaker 6: tell you that as a as a defensive coordinator, like
2:04:08
Speaker 6: what'll keep you up and I will drive you nuts?
2:04:10
Speaker 6: Is the best eleven on the field. And they're using
2:04:13
Speaker 6: the entire field. That gets really hard to defend. And
2:04:17
Speaker 6: so those guys you mentioned all it sounds like have
2:04:20
Speaker 6: the capability and so now it's just a matter of
2:04:24
Speaker 6: like put them in the best situations. Now you can
2:04:26
Speaker 6: say that, and you can call for verts all day,
2:04:28
Speaker 6: and if it's not open or you know, the protection
2:04:31
Speaker 6: breaks down or what have you, that's another discussion. Right
2:04:34
Speaker 6: then it's hey, we're trying to manufacture the ball down
2:04:36
Speaker 6: the field just isn't there right now. But if if
2:04:40
Speaker 6: the players are being dialed up, it's just a numbers
2:04:43
Speaker 6: game at that point, eventually it's gonna pop open and
2:04:45
Speaker 6: it's going to be there. And again, if you're able
2:04:47
Speaker 6: to stretch the field vertically, paired with the running game
2:04:49
Speaker 6: they have and the guys they're able to recruit up front,
2:04:52
Speaker 6: like this offense gets you know, pretty scary pretty quick.
2:04:55
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy?
2:04:56
Speaker 3: Jordan Utah hasn't had a one thousand yard wide receiver
2:05:01
Speaker 3: in thirteen years.
2:05:03
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's crazy. That is crazy.
2:05:04
Speaker 2: If you're dres Anderson.
2:05:08
Speaker 3: Yards in twenty thirteen was the last thousand yard wide receiver,
2:05:14
Speaker 3: that's wild.
2:05:15
Speaker 6: I mean, that's the piece that's missing, right if you
2:05:16
Speaker 6: have a i mean even just getting close to that, right,
2:05:19
Speaker 6: Like if you can get a guy that's even upwards
2:05:21
Speaker 6: of like eight nine hundred yards and you know, eight
2:05:25
Speaker 6: to ten plus touchdowns, like, that's a true number one receiver.
2:05:28
Speaker 6: If you have a true number one like it's hard
2:05:31
Speaker 6: to defend. You can't you effectively can't leave that guy
2:05:34
Speaker 6: on an island at all, or he's going to beat you.
2:05:36
Speaker 6: And again, that was that was Dres Anderson, that was
2:05:38
Speaker 6: DeVante Christopher. For me, that was David Reed, that was
2:05:40
Speaker 6: Jeremy Brooks. And then you know, coach Ramm and Rodd
2:05:45
Speaker 6: we were dialing it up and letting us throw the
2:05:47
Speaker 6: ball all over the place. And so I'm hoping they can,
2:05:50
Speaker 6: you know, find that again because I think, gosh, it
2:05:53
Speaker 6: seems like thirteen years been thirteen years since we've had it.
2:05:56
Speaker 6: And if and if that's there, that piece is there,
2:05:58
Speaker 6: it's it just creates albums for opposing defenses.
2:06:02
Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this, if they got similar production out
2:06:06
Speaker 3: of Pagan and Shoals that they put up last year,
2:06:10
Speaker 3: if you've got a nine hundred and fifty and a
2:06:12
Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty yard receiver, that that's to me,
2:06:15
Speaker 3: that's just as good because you're getting two guys that
2:06:18
Speaker 3: are uber productive.
2:06:19
Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean, if you have two
2:06:21
Speaker 6: guys with that kind of production, again, that's using the
2:06:25
Speaker 6: whole field right, stretching the field both vertically and horizontally.
2:06:29
Speaker 6: And you know, it's just a football is just a
2:06:31
Speaker 6: numbers game. There are a lot of people that like
2:06:33
Speaker 6: to over complicated. It's like, are there more guys than
2:06:36
Speaker 6: coverage than run the ball? Are there more guys in
2:06:38
Speaker 6: the box than throw the ball? If there are two
2:06:39
Speaker 6: good guys that are good at catching the ball and
2:06:41
Speaker 6: running routes and they're one of them has one guy
2:06:43
Speaker 6: on them, then you like, go to that guy. You know,
2:06:46
Speaker 6: it's not it doesn't need to be this crazy thing.
2:06:49
Speaker 6: It's like, just put the guys in the right spaces,
2:06:52
Speaker 6: find the one on one matchup and let them go play.
2:06:55
Speaker 6: Like you know, anybody that's played football from when they're
2:06:58
Speaker 6: a little kid and you go out with your friends
2:07:00
Speaker 6: and play one on one. It's like, the guy's one
2:07:01
Speaker 6: on one and he's a good athlete.
2:07:03
Speaker 2: You get them.
2:07:03
Speaker 6: The football doesn't need to be any more complicated than that.
2:07:06
Speaker 3: Well, it's hard to get the football to the guys
2:07:08
Speaker 3: downfield if you're running for your life. And I'm not
2:07:10
Speaker 3: saying well, that's why I wanted to ask you about
2:07:13
Speaker 3: the offensive line, and I'm not inferring that. But there's
2:07:15
Speaker 3: gonna be five new guys. I mean, Utah was blessed
2:07:18
Speaker 3: the last two years to have five guys that all
2:07:21
Speaker 3: started together for back to back years. That's pretty unheard of.
2:07:24
Speaker 3: And all those guys may end up on NFL rosters.
2:07:27
Speaker 3: We know two of them will be drafted next week.
2:07:29
Speaker 3: So you tell me, Jordan Gross has got a lot
2:07:31
Speaker 3: of good pieces guys that have been in the program.
2:07:34
Speaker 3: By the way, the thing that told me a lot
2:07:35
Speaker 3: about Jordan as a coach and a person. Not a
2:07:38
Speaker 3: single one of those guys in the offensive line room
2:07:40
Speaker 3: hit the portal. They all stayed to play for him.
2:07:42
Speaker 3: Plus he brought his five star kid in. Plus they
2:07:44
Speaker 3: added some kids in the portal. So tell me a
2:07:46
Speaker 3: little bit about your thoughts on Jordan putting that line
2:07:49
Speaker 3: together and figuring things out this spring.
2:07:52
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think one it was slam Dunkier. You know,
2:07:56
Speaker 6: you talk about not only the career he had both
2:08:00
Speaker 6: collegeeny in the NFL, but you bring back a guy that's,
2:08:03
Speaker 6: you know, through and through a Utah guy loves cares
2:08:06
Speaker 6: about the program, is proven he can play at the
2:08:10
Speaker 6: highest level. You know, I haven't had an opportunity to
2:08:14
Speaker 6: talk to him, you know, directly about his philosophy or
2:08:18
Speaker 6: anything like that, but gosh, the guy played the highest
2:08:20
Speaker 6: I can't imagine he's anything but a high level tactician.
2:08:24
Speaker 7: Right.
2:08:24
Speaker 6: So couple that with you have a guy that played
2:08:27
Speaker 6: here and has a passion for the university and for
2:08:29
Speaker 6: the state of Utah. Like those are guys that go
2:08:32
Speaker 6: recruit and recruit really well, and with a name like his. Yeah, his,
2:08:38
Speaker 6: I mean, his job might be the hardest of anyone
2:08:42
Speaker 6: on that staff, just replacing you know, the all those
2:08:44
Speaker 6: guys from the last couple of years and the continuity.
2:08:48
Speaker 6: But to your point, like having no one entered the
2:08:51
Speaker 6: portal is impressive and especially in today's day and age,
2:08:54
Speaker 6: like that doesn't really happen. So he you know, again,
2:08:59
Speaker 6: obviously has name, but for him to come in and
2:09:02
Speaker 6: you know, relate and get into it with the guys
2:09:05
Speaker 6: that are on campus and then bring in the guys
2:09:07
Speaker 6: that he's had come in with him, Yeah, I mean,
2:09:10
Speaker 6: there's probably gonna be a little bit of a curve
2:09:12
Speaker 6: there to pick up. You know, it's not the same
2:09:14
Speaker 6: five like you mentioned from the last couple of years,
2:09:16
Speaker 6: which is rare anyway, but gosh, I can't think of
2:09:19
Speaker 6: a better guy really to be in that position. And
2:09:23
Speaker 6: you know, again another hire where you know, Morgan I
2:09:26
Speaker 6: think hit it out of the park.
2:09:28
Speaker 2: I think so too.
2:09:29
Speaker 3: And it's been fun talking to him. He's really excited
2:09:31
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2:09:34
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Speaker 3: They'll be playing the Golden Knights in Vegas Sunday. Mike
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Speaker 3: Fulta joins us now the voice of the Mammoth. Who's
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Speaker 3: got the radio call Sunday from Vegas?
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Speaker 2: How are you, Mike?
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Speaker 7: Oh good, I'm just looking out my window at some
2:12:05
Speaker 7: hockey weather here. Bill Flurry's coming down in the valley
2:12:09
Speaker 7: and how apropos. Game eighty two of the regular season
2:12:13
Speaker 7: for the Mammoths a year ago yesterday they were also
2:12:17
Speaker 7: playing the Saint Louis Blues. But that was it. That
2:12:19
Speaker 7: was the end of what was a really fun story
2:12:21
Speaker 7: in the inaugural season. But there will be a game
2:12:24
Speaker 7: eighty three this year, as you mentioned, taking on the
2:12:28
Speaker 7: Golden Knights on Sunday. So fun time to be a
2:12:31
Speaker 7: hockey fan on the Washtass front.
2:12:32
Speaker 3: So what was the biggest difference a year ago at
2:12:34
Speaker 3: this time till now? Why do you think this team
2:12:37
Speaker 3: took a step forward this year?
2:12:40
Speaker 7: Young players got better. Dylan Gunster has forty goals, Logan
2:12:43
Speaker 7: Cooley's been fantastic and the team improved as well. General
2:12:48
Speaker 7: manager Bill Armstrong brought in some players via free agency.
2:12:52
Speaker 7: He traded for JJ Pitcherca who has twenty five goals
2:12:55
Speaker 7: this year, but one of the guys he brought in
2:12:58
Speaker 7: via free agency Nace Schmidt, a versatile, experienced defenseman. He
2:13:03
Speaker 7: has fit in on Utah's second defense pair nightly and
2:13:07
Speaker 7: actually just tweeted it. But that second defense pair, Naate
2:13:10
Speaker 7: Schmidt John Marino, maybe two guys who you don't see
2:13:14
Speaker 7: a ton of their jerseys walking around the Delta Center,
2:13:16
Speaker 7: but that has been the second most effective pair this year.
2:13:21
Speaker 7: And we look at plus minus, which isn't the end
2:13:24
Speaker 7: all be all of hockey stats, but they have the
2:13:26
Speaker 7: best plus minus of any defense pair in the league.
2:13:30
Speaker 7: They've been fantastic and the core has gotten better as well.
2:13:34
Speaker 7: Clayton Keller's had a great year. Nick Schmalt's had a
2:13:36
Speaker 7: career season, So a lot of contributing factors. Everybody's elevated
2:13:40
Speaker 7: their play, and the Mammoths have a great a great
2:13:43
Speaker 7: playoff situation trying to muck their way through specific division.
2:13:48
Speaker 3: You know, you always want to create rivalries. It's hard
2:13:51
Speaker 3: to have a rivalry when you're a brand new franchise,
2:13:54
Speaker 3: and obviously the Mammoth are You've got the Avalanche to
2:13:58
Speaker 3: the east, you've got the Goal Nights to the South.
2:14:02
Speaker 3: I've always said to create rivalries, you have to have
2:14:04
Speaker 3: memorable games and things that mean something. You just don't
2:14:08
Speaker 3: have that when you're only two years in as a franchise.
2:14:11
Speaker 3: But you know, if you want to start to create
2:14:13
Speaker 3: a rivalry, this could be a good opportunity to do so.
2:14:17
Speaker 3: Proximity with the Golden Knights. There's still a relatively new
2:14:20
Speaker 3: franchise as well, play some meaningful playoff hockey.
2:14:24
Speaker 2: Maybe you get a little something started here. What do
2:14:26
Speaker 2: you think?
2:14:27
Speaker 7: No doubt, And I think some of our broadcast crew
2:14:30
Speaker 7: has even making the drive down I fifteen. That's how
2:14:33
Speaker 7: they're getting there. So it's gonna be awesome. Last time
2:14:37
Speaker 7: we were in Vegas a few weeks ago, there was
2:14:39
Speaker 7: a lot of Mountain Blue on the strip on Las
2:14:42
Speaker 7: Vegas Boulevard. So I'm expecting a bunch of a bunch
2:14:46
Speaker 7: of Mountain Blue jerseys in the crowd at the Fortress
2:14:51
Speaker 7: on Sunday and then again on Tuesday as well. So
2:14:56
Speaker 7: super exciting. And you look at you know, some of
2:14:58
Speaker 7: the great rivalries we've had in the play the last
2:15:00
Speaker 7: couple of years. You know, think of crossby Nobskin right
2:15:03
Speaker 7: two guys who have been pitted against one another ever
2:15:07
Speaker 7: since they entered the league. They were constantly meeting in
2:15:10
Speaker 7: the playoffs, the Capitals and the Penguins, and the story
2:15:13
Speaker 7: for a long time was Ovetkin couldn't win the Big
2:15:16
Speaker 7: One because he could not get passed Sidney Crosby and
2:15:20
Speaker 7: the Penguins. And we know that that's one of the
2:15:23
Speaker 7: great rivalries of our sport. Now Tampa and Florida yet
2:15:27
Speaker 7: there they share a state, but they also met in
2:15:30
Speaker 7: the playoffs for several years and Tampa would beat the
2:15:34
Speaker 7: brakes off the Panthers, and the Panthers finally had enough
2:15:37
Speaker 7: and said, you know what, get over here at Matthew
2:15:39
Speaker 7: could Chuck get over here, Sam Bennett, some of the
2:15:41
Speaker 7: toughest guys in the league. We need to get meaner.
2:15:44
Speaker 7: And they got meaner. And what do you know, They've
2:15:46
Speaker 7: gone to the last three Stanley Cup Finals and won
2:15:48
Speaker 7: the last two.
2:15:50
Speaker 2: So you know this, and hockey fans here know this.
2:15:53
Speaker 3: But if you're new to the game and you don't
2:15:54
Speaker 3: follow it closely, you can have a great regular season.
2:15:58
Speaker 3: But if you hit the playoffs and you're goaltending is
2:16:01
Speaker 3: average to below average, you've got no chance in Stanley
2:16:05
Speaker 3: Cup playoffs. So how do you feel about goaltending as
2:16:08
Speaker 3: you guys begin to get ready yourself for Sunday and
2:16:11
Speaker 3: into the playoffs.
2:16:14
Speaker 7: Well, I think you feel good about carrel Va Melca
2:16:16
Speaker 7: and his ability to steal you a game or steal
2:16:19
Speaker 7: you a series. And really, throughout the year, when this
2:16:22
Speaker 7: team has been at its best, their goaltending has been
2:16:26
Speaker 7: at its best as well, whether it's been correl Va
2:16:28
Speaker 7: Melca or VTech Vanichik the number two. We expect carl
2:16:33
Speaker 7: Va Melca to play basically every game in the playoffs, jarring,
2:16:37
Speaker 7: you know, barring anything notable. But Veggie's been solid this year.
2:16:42
Speaker 7: His numbers dipped a little bit in November and the
2:16:45
Speaker 7: team struggled well in January, he was outstanding. He's led
2:16:50
Speaker 7: the league in games played for most of the year.
2:16:53
Speaker 7: He's seen the most rubber, He's played the most minutes
2:16:55
Speaker 7: out of anybody. Nobody has leaned on their goaltender as
2:16:58
Speaker 7: much as Utah has leaned on Corelva this season, and
2:17:02
Speaker 7: he was the first goaltender to reach the thirty win mark.
2:17:05
Speaker 7: So even if he doesn't have his a stuff every night,
2:17:11
Speaker 7: more than often finds a way to get to win.
2:17:14
Speaker 7: He's been solid recently. I don't know if we're going
2:17:17
Speaker 7: to see him tonight or if we're going to see
2:17:18
Speaker 7: the number two v tech Vanischick and get Correll a
2:17:21
Speaker 7: little bit of a little bit of rest heading into
2:17:23
Speaker 7: the playoffs, but we've seen some really good stuff from
2:17:27
Speaker 7: Veggie over the second half of the year, and you
2:17:30
Speaker 7: have to think it's probably an advantage for Utah. It's
2:17:33
Speaker 7: Vegas still has a bit of a goaltending question. They've
2:17:36
Speaker 7: been riding Carter Hart recently and he's been playing really well,
2:17:41
Speaker 7: but there's just not as big of a sample size there.
2:17:43
Speaker 7: So if you had to give an advantage in the
2:17:46
Speaker 7: goaltending matchup, I think you have to give it to Utah.
2:17:49
Speaker 3: Are there any other places where you feel like Utah
2:17:52
Speaker 3: has got a definitive advantage in this series with Vegas?
2:17:57
Speaker 7: I think the Utah's speed always give teams problems and
2:18:01
Speaker 7: Vegas can skate. Vegas is a very good team with
2:18:04
Speaker 7: elite players. I think as a team though this Manis
2:18:08
Speaker 7: group probably has better team speed than Vegas. The one
2:18:14
Speaker 7: thing that scares you as a Utah fan is that
2:18:17
Speaker 7: Vegas has a special teams advantage and special teams often
2:18:21
Speaker 7: can be the deciding factor if if five on five
2:18:24
Speaker 7: and goaltending.
2:18:25
Speaker 8: Is a wash.
2:18:26
Speaker 7: But Vegas has a top ten power play and a
2:18:29
Speaker 7: top ten penalty kill, and they've got really good players
2:18:32
Speaker 7: Mitch marn Or, Jack Icel, Mark Stone. These guys are
2:18:36
Speaker 7: really talented, really skilled, and they've got a new coach too,
2:18:40
Speaker 7: John Tortorella took over with with eight games left in
2:18:43
Speaker 7: the regular season and all they've done is go a
2:18:47
Speaker 7: seven to zero to one unbeaten regulation ever since the
2:18:50
Speaker 7: new coach took over. So all of that will make
2:18:54
Speaker 7: for a ton of great storylines and a lot of
2:18:57
Speaker 7: intrigue once the season starts. But honestly, Bill, you can
2:19:01
Speaker 7: you can throw out a lot of the stats from
2:19:03
Speaker 7: the regular season once the playoffs start. They call it
2:19:06
Speaker 7: the second season for a reason. It's totally different.
2:19:09
Speaker 3: Well, that's what I was going to ask you, because
2:19:10
Speaker 3: I don't think these two teams played a close game
2:19:13
Speaker 3: in the regular season. Weren't they all blowouts?
2:19:16
Speaker 7: They were, and we've seen the Mammoths go down to
2:19:20
Speaker 7: the fortress and absolutely annihilate Vegas. We've seen Utah really
2:19:26
Speaker 7: struggle against the Golden Knights. That was kind of one
2:19:28
Speaker 7: of the gut check games earlier this year against Vegas.
2:19:33
Speaker 7: The Mammoths lost for one at home and then got
2:19:36
Speaker 7: to train on the on the track literally like a
2:19:39
Speaker 7: week later, a few days later and turned around and
2:19:42
Speaker 7: beat Vegas five to one. So I think the biggest
2:19:45
Speaker 7: thing is being able to handle the hides and lows.
2:19:47
Speaker 7: You're not gonna sweep every playoff series. They're going to
2:19:50
Speaker 7: lose the playoff game at some point. How you respond
2:19:53
Speaker 7: to that is going to be really telling. And that's
2:19:55
Speaker 7: something that excites me about this Utah group. They've shown
2:19:58
Speaker 7: a propensity for bouncing back from bad performances throughout the
2:20:03
Speaker 7: course of the season.
2:20:04
Speaker 3: Mike Folts with us the voice of the Mammoth for
2:20:06
Speaker 3: just a couple of more minutes. He's got the call
2:20:08
Speaker 3: of tonight's regular season finale, and then he'll be on
2:20:11
Speaker 3: the call Sunday as they played the first game of
2:20:14
Speaker 3: the playoffs, first game in Mammoth franchise history in the
2:20:17
Speaker 3: postseason coming up Sunday in Las Vegas. This feels like
2:20:22
Speaker 3: a team that has built the right way year one.
2:20:25
Speaker 3: I know they just missed out last year, made the
2:20:27
Speaker 3: right moves. As you said, they've grown together still a
2:20:30
Speaker 3: young team. Is this about kind of where you thought
2:20:33
Speaker 3: they would be if I would have gone back to
2:20:35
Speaker 3: October with you, Mike and said, give me an idea
2:20:38
Speaker 3: of how you think this season plays out.
2:20:40
Speaker 2: Is this kind of where you saw it with this team?
2:20:43
Speaker 7: I don't know if I saw it, but this is
2:20:44
Speaker 7: where we all hope, right And this was kind of
2:20:47
Speaker 7: the death star plan from general manager Bill Armstrong and
2:20:52
Speaker 7: the top brass and I think a lot of us
2:20:54
Speaker 7: were sitting around Dan. Yeah, playoffs sounds good. We'll see.
2:20:58
Speaker 7: We'll believe it when we see it. It is kind
2:21:00
Speaker 7: of shocking how things have proceeded according to the general
2:21:06
Speaker 7: manager's plan so far. Last year, the goal was to
2:21:09
Speaker 7: play meaningful games late in the season. Utah cops that
2:21:13
Speaker 7: they fell a little short of the playoffs, but they
2:21:15
Speaker 7: were still fighting towards the end. This year, ever since
2:21:19
Speaker 7: the onset, the goal was to make the playoffs, and
2:21:22
Speaker 7: Utah clinch that with a few games left in the
2:21:25
Speaker 7: regular season. And I tell you what. You talked to
2:21:29
Speaker 7: Bill Armstrong and you're able to get him on the
2:21:30
Speaker 7: show or sit him down. The first thing that he
2:21:34
Speaker 7: talks about oftentimes are the players that are coming that
2:21:38
Speaker 7: are on the way next. I'm thinking we're the playoffs,
2:21:41
Speaker 7: like we have a chance to compete for the Stanley Cup.
2:21:45
Speaker 7: But you asked Bill, he's really excited about the young
2:21:48
Speaker 7: players that are on the way next. So even though
2:21:52
Speaker 7: this is going to be a super exciting run, in
2:21:54
Speaker 7: the next days and weeks and hopefully months, there's more
2:21:58
Speaker 7: talent coming up through the pipeline and this this team
2:22:02
Speaker 7: is being built for sustainable success.
2:22:04
Speaker 2: How excited are you to call these playoffs?
2:22:08
Speaker 7: Bill, I'm just hoping I don't screw it up. You
2:22:11
Speaker 7: grow up listening to these soundtracks, right, you're your favorite
2:22:13
Speaker 7: broadcasters and these memorable calls, and it's a it is
2:22:18
Speaker 7: a notable responsibility to call these moments that people are
2:22:22
Speaker 7: going to remember for the rest of their lives, not
2:22:25
Speaker 7: not necessarily because I called it, but because the moment
2:22:28
Speaker 7: itself is so special. And you know, I think you
2:22:31
Speaker 7: would say the same thing. You just want to do
2:22:32
Speaker 7: it justice. So we want to have fun and it's
2:22:35
Speaker 7: going to be it's gonna be a blast. Is demandmates
2:22:37
Speaker 7: have a great chance to make a run.
2:22:39
Speaker 3: Well, you're great at what you do and when you prepare,
2:22:42
Speaker 3: and you're really good at what you do everything else
2:22:44
Speaker 3: kind of falls together naturally, at least that's been my
2:22:47
Speaker 3: experience down through the years. So I think you're gonna
2:22:50
Speaker 3: have a lot of fun with this thing as it
2:22:52
Speaker 3: plays out. And hey, who knows, you know, Goltender gets hot,
2:22:56
Speaker 3: a few things go your way.
2:22:58
Speaker 2: Might not be one rat. It might be too.
2:23:02
Speaker 7: The Mammo don't need a nineteen eighties miracle on ice
2:23:05
Speaker 7: to get past the Golden Knights or to get past
2:23:07
Speaker 7: the next team. They'll play the Pacific Division. That's the
2:23:10
Speaker 7: bracket that Utah is going to be in. It's it's
2:23:13
Speaker 7: the weekest division in hockey in the last like ten
2:23:16
Speaker 7: twelve years, so still some really good teams and some
2:23:19
Speaker 7: incredible players. The Mammoth left the beat. Nothing is easy
2:23:21
Speaker 7: in the playoffs, but it's a great opportunity. It's a
2:23:25
Speaker 7: great seating for the Utah Mammot say yeah, like you said,
2:23:29
Speaker 7: win a couple of rountes. So can't wait for it
2:23:31
Speaker 7: and can't wait to be up at right Deckels coming
2:23:34
Speaker 7: up next year as well, we'll be in your neck
2:23:36
Speaker 7: of the woods taking over the football field.
2:23:39
Speaker 3: For a little bit one hundred and forty days till
2:23:41
Speaker 3: Utah Football kicks off. I don't know how many days
2:23:44
Speaker 3: to the Winter Classic, but yeah, it will be. It's
2:23:48
Speaker 3: going to be so fun to see that set up.
2:23:50
Speaker 3: I've been so lucky for the last seventeen almost eighteen
2:23:54
Speaker 3: years to call Rice Cycles my home on Saturdays in
2:23:57
Speaker 3: the fall. I can't wait to see that hot rink
2:24:00
Speaker 3: set up in the middle of the field and see
2:24:02
Speaker 3: the Mammoth playing.
2:24:03
Speaker 2: And I think it'll be fantastic.
2:24:06
Speaker 7: Yeah. I might have to stop by twenty two for
2:24:10
Speaker 7: you fan day the spring game, just to get used
2:24:13
Speaker 7: to the accommodations up there.
2:24:14
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, couple, Well that's going to be over at
2:24:16
Speaker 3: the fieldhouse on the inside, won't be at the stadium.
2:24:19
Speaker 3: But here's what I'll do. I'll walk you around, I'll
2:24:21
Speaker 3: bring you up. In fact, we'll get you used to it.
2:24:23
Speaker 3: If you want to come up and sit in the
2:24:24
Speaker 3: boot this fall when you're not doing a game, I'll
2:24:27
Speaker 3: get you used to the booth in the setting. And
2:24:29
Speaker 3: you're a little further from the ice at Rice Cycle
2:24:31
Speaker 3: Stadium than you are at the Delta Center, so you
2:24:33
Speaker 3: might want to just get your eyes used to that.
2:24:35
Speaker 3: And I don't think you use the binoculars very often
2:24:38
Speaker 3: at the Delta Center. You will at the Rice Cycles.
2:24:41
Speaker 8: Hey.
2:24:41
Speaker 7: You know on radio Bill sometimes we just make it up.
2:24:44
Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, it's theater of the mind, Mike. If you
2:24:48
Speaker 3: and I say it, it must be true, right.
2:24:52
Speaker 7: I'll tell you this. The Utah Mammot have never lost
2:24:56
Speaker 7: a fight on the ice on the radio broadcast.
2:25:00
Speaker 3: Hey, I was at that Capitals game a couple of
2:25:02
Speaker 3: weeks ago. That was unbelievable the amount of fighting we saw.
2:25:07
Speaker 3: I mean, I've been to a number of games. For
2:25:09
Speaker 3: a regular season game, I don't know what got into
2:25:11
Speaker 3: the boys that night, but the Capitals and the Mammoth
2:25:14
Speaker 3: were not having it with each other.
2:25:16
Speaker 7: Well, and honestly, it didn't go Utah's way that night.
2:25:20
Speaker 7: But I think that was a great learning experience for
2:25:22
Speaker 7: the Mammot because once you get to the postseason, you
2:25:25
Speaker 7: get those dust ups after every strum, after every whistle,
2:25:30
Speaker 7: there's guys clutching at you, grabbing you. If you're a
2:25:33
Speaker 7: new fan and you don't know what a face wash is,
2:25:36
Speaker 7: go look up what a face wash is. It's not comfortable,
2:25:41
Speaker 7: but you get a lot of those in the postseason,
2:25:43
Speaker 7: and the Mammots got dragged into the mud by Tom
2:25:45
Speaker 7: Wilson and the Caps that day, and they need to
2:25:48
Speaker 7: make sure they don't get thrown off their game again
2:25:51
Speaker 7: in the playoffs because Vegas will likely try and do
2:25:53
Speaker 7: the same thing.
2:25:54
Speaker 3: Hey, my friend, thank you for doing this. I'll look
2:25:56
Speaker 3: forward to catching up with you. Have a great call
2:25:58
Speaker 3: tonight in the regular season for all, have fun in
2:26:01
Speaker 3: the postseason beginning Sunday, and we'll get together and have
2:26:04
Speaker 3: a little lunch when your season in sound.
2:26:06
Speaker 7: Good, hopefully that's in Ji and we'll see it.
2:26:09
Speaker 2: Bell, Thank you, thank you, Mike, Mike Folt.
2:26:11
Speaker 3: We'll have the call tonight on radio for the Mammoth
2:26:13
Speaker 3: and the Blues, and then I'll have the call on
2:26:15
Speaker 3: Sunday for Game one in Vegas for the Golden Knights
2:26:19
Speaker 3: and your Utah Mammoth. We'll come back, we'll do a
2:26:22
Speaker 3: little topical trivia and wind it down next Sean O'Connell
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Speaker 3: Right, final segment here on a Thursday, Riley filling in
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Speaker 3: for O'Connell today, get a little topical trivia for you Today,
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Speaker 3: We've got some tickets to give away. The country artist
2:26:53
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Speaker 3: that I thought would have big impacts this fall that
2:27:19
Speaker 3: I have had good springs, but I thought would have
2:27:21
Speaker 3: an impact this fall. Who are the three players that
2:27:23
Speaker 3: I mentioned? Specifically?
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Speaker 2: Who are they?
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Speaker 3: You can give the last name, you can give the
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2:27:46
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2:27:50
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2:27:52
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Speaker 3: a little bit later on this summer. On July the ninth,
2:28:13
Speaker 3: time for a leaderboard update from the RBC Heritage Round
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Speaker 3: one at Hiltonhead Island. And yeah, it's underway and just
2:28:23
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2:28:26
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2:28:28
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2:28:34
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2:28:36
Speaker 3: He's got a one shot lead over Victor Hoveland and
2:28:39
Speaker 3: Harris English. You were seven under sixty four today Michael Brennan,
2:28:43
Speaker 3: Gary Woodland, Ryan Fox, Ricky Fowler all six under sixty
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Speaker 3: fives today at Harbortown, two shots back and at five
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Speaker 3: under par Robert McIntyre he of the inappropriate gesture toward
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Speaker 3: the greens last week at the Masters sun Am Sepstraka,
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Speaker 3: Gordy Chieza for coming in studio today, and Mike Folt
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Speaker 3: talking a little hockey with us as well on the program.
2:29:45
Speaker 3: Thanks to Sean for having me come sit in for him.
2:29:48
Speaker 3: I appreciate him having the trust in me to fill
2:29:51
Speaker 3: in in the air chair. Thanks to my bosses for
2:29:53
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