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- 0:21SPEAKER_28: And welcome to another Freedom Friday and the John Justice show, presented by American Experiment.
- 0:28SPEAKER_28: I, of course, am your host, John Justice, and I'm glad that you are with us this morning.
- 0:32SPEAKER_28: We have Isaac producing the uh show today as he continues to uh monitor the uh production.
- 0:38SPEAKER_28: Good morning, sir.
- 0:39SPEAKER_28: How are you?
- 0:39SPEAKER_28: Good morning.
- 0:40SPEAKER_28: He loves Friday, he loves uh Freedom Friday so much that he requested that while Devin uh produces the show that he still gets to come in every Friday to partake in all of the freedom.
- 0:50SPEAKER_28: It's true.
- 0:51SPEAKER_28: We have uh we have uh some special things lined up this morning.
- 0:54SPEAKER_28: If you were listening uh at the uh at the start of the parody replays, uh you probably heard uh something brand new for Freedom Friday.
- 1:03SPEAKER_28: If not, we'll play that again coming up right around uh seven o'clock this morning when we have hopefully all of our guests uh in studio on the sofa and the comfy chairs of the American Experiment Studio.
- 1:15SPEAKER_28: Uh, we have Catherine uh Johnson, she'll be joining us a little bit later on.
- 1:18SPEAKER_28: Max Reimer, your representative, should be joining us right around uh 6:30 this morning.
- 1:23SPEAKER_28: And also RNC committeeman a.k.
- 1:25SPEAKER_28: Kamara, all in studio.
- 1:27SPEAKER_28: Plus, your on and off topic blasts all morning long here on the show.
- 1:34SPEAKER_28: We got a ton of news uh to uh dive into.
- 1:37SPEAKER_28: We're certainly going to get the opinion of our Freedom Friday guests of the primary results.
- 1:45SPEAKER_28: And now that we're heading into the general election, we have audio from Peggy Flanagan to share.
- 1:51SPEAKER_28: I did not anticipate that this election would be as entertaining as I now see that it is going to be.
- 2:01SPEAKER_28: We are going to be one of the spotlights for mainstream media in this general election cycle.
- 2:07SPEAKER_28: We talked about this at length yesterday.
- 2:09SPEAKER_28: The media is going to be looking for compelling storylines.
- 2:13SPEAKER_28: They do every single election cycle, they do every single day.
- 2:17SPEAKER_28: So it doesn't mean that it's the most consequential races impacting the nation as a whole.
- 2:23SPEAKER_28: Certainly impactful for here, uh, for us here in Minnesota, but it does make for really good programming for mainstream media.
- 2:32SPEAKER_28: I bring this up because Peggy Flanagan went and made the rounds on some of the national news outlets.
- 2:38SPEAKER_28: She was talking with CNN.
- 2:39SPEAKER_28: She was talking with MS Now.
- 2:41SPEAKER_28: She is clearly not ready for prime time.
- 2:45SPEAKER_28: It's one thing when you are engaging in a primary fight with somebody within your own party, and you have a very specific line of attack relating to that individual, and you're appealing to your own voters.
- 3:01SPEAKER_28: That's one thing.
- 3:02SPEAKER_28: Now she has to go up against Michelle Tefoya.
- 3:05SPEAKER_28: Michelle Tefoya, a candidate to being a, for lack of a better way to describe her, a more moderate uh Republican candidate based on some of her views.
- 3:16SPEAKER_28: Um, she is going to face a tough challenge.
- 3:19SPEAKER_28: And we already see that within her media appearances, she's just, as I mentioned, she is not ready for primetime.
- 3:26SPEAKER_28: I'm here for it.
- 3:27SPEAKER_28: I can't wait to share these clips with you during the uh show today as we get through a host of other news.
- 3:33SPEAKER_28: We have updates on the uh flock of cameras to get to, uh, the scooter takeover in Minneapolis.
- 3:39SPEAKER_28: Uh there are moves to uh suppress that from happening again.
- 3:44SPEAKER_28: I'll tell you uh how.
- 3:45SPEAKER_28: And uh and a lot of them, a lot of stories, especially this hour.
- 3:48SPEAKER_28: Um, your money, new ways that your money is being wasted.
- 3:52SPEAKER_28: I know it's not great Freedom Friday material, but I need to get to it anyways, because it's important.
- 3:56SPEAKER_28: A couple of items we have not had the chance to dive into uh this week on the show.
- 3:59SPEAKER_28: So I'm really excited and I'm glad you're with us.
- 4:02SPEAKER_28: Remember, you can watch the show at MM Think Tank on X, also Facebook and YouTube at Center of the American Experiment.
- 4:09SPEAKER_28: You can listen live, and I encourage you to download the Mix LR app.
- 4:13SPEAKER_28: It's completely free.
- 4:14SPEAKER_28: Just search for American Experiment and John Justice, you'll find it there.
- 4:18SPEAKER_28: The podcasts are posted right there on the app at exactly the same place where you listen to the show live every single day.
- 4:23SPEAKER_28: And of course, the podcasts are also available up on all the major podcast uh platforms.
- 4:29SPEAKER_28: Throughout the show this morning on a Freedom Friday, as I mentioned, you're on and off topic comments.
- 4:34SPEAKER_28: Leave us a blast at 612-584-4565.
- 4:38SPEAKER_28: Many of you already have, so let's get to uh some of your thoughts this morning on a Freedom Friday.
- 4:43SPEAKER_02: Hi, John.
- 4:44SPEAKER_02: This is Amy.
- 4:45SPEAKER_02: Happy Freedom Friday to you and all of the crew there.
- 4:48SPEAKER_02: I just wanted to say that I thought it would be really fun if you did have Becca Thompson on a Freedom Friday.
- 4:53SPEAKER_02: I think she would be great.
- 4:55SPEAKER_02: I think it would go off the rails, and I would find it very entertaining.
- 4:58SPEAKER_02: So I hope you do consider that sometime in the future.
- 5:01SPEAKER_02: Thanks.
- 5:02SPEAKER_02: Have a great day.
- 5:03SPEAKER_28: We absolutely will um have Becca Thompson, who we had in last week on the show.
- 5:08SPEAKER_28: I think it was on Wednesday.
- 5:10SPEAKER_28: We'll certainly have her back on the show.
- 5:11SPEAKER_28: And we did um, she and I did talk about her uh coming on on a Freedom Friday.
- 5:16SPEAKER_28: She was unfamiliar with uh Freedom Friday, so uh I thought, well, you know what, maybe she can tune in today and get a little uh get a little vibe of Freedom Friday so she understands kind of what she's getting into.
- 5:27SPEAKER_28: But I have no doubt she'd be able to uh to hold her own.
- 5:30SPEAKER_28: I had so much fun on X yesterday, can I just tell you?
- 5:34SPEAKER_28: So I'm prepping the show.
- 5:36SPEAKER_28: And uh Becca Thompson had posted a fairly, you know, a hot take regarding the Peggy Flanagan and Michelle Tefoya Senate race, basically saying that her expectation was, and I'm paraphrasing, her expectation was that that uh Tefoya is going to trounce Peggy Flanagan.
- 5:55SPEAKER_28: And as a matter of fact, because of that, it'll probably bring about a lot of votes for Lisa Damath as well, sweeping her into uh into election.
- 6:05SPEAKER_28: And um, I just cannot you have whatever opinion you want to have.
- 6:11SPEAKER_28: It's fine.
- 6:12SPEAKER_28: I do not understand the the we're throwing our hands up in the air, Republicans who just think that there's no way the GOP can win elections.
- 6:20SPEAKER_28: Why bother?
- 6:21SPEAKER_28: There's too much fraud, there's too much corruption, and so why even bother?
- 6:25SPEAKER_28: Never gonna happen.
- 6:26SPEAKER_28: I just I can't.
- 6:26SPEAKER_28: It's a it's an immature defeatist attitude.
- 6:29SPEAKER_28: And it drives me nuts.
- 6:31SPEAKER_28: You do you.
- 6:32SPEAKER_28: If that's your opinion, that's fine.
- 6:34SPEAKER_28: I just ardently disagree.
- 6:37SPEAKER_28: I just I do.
- 6:38SPEAKER_28: If you're if you're going to go that route to be that defeatist, then why bother even posting on X?
- 6:44SPEAKER_28: Why bother even commenting?
- 6:46SPEAKER_28: Why bother sharing your voice?
- 6:47SPEAKER_28: Just go find something else to do if you just if you've gone and given up.
- 6:50SPEAKER_28: Anyway, so I did what I typically don't do when I responded unsolicited to somebody who was commenting on Becca's post, and this just went into a long thread.
- 6:58SPEAKER_28: I was having so much fun.
- 7:00SPEAKER_28: As Rush Limbaugh used to say, and he's right, uh, more uh fun than a human being uh should be allowed to have here on the John Justice show.
- 7:08SPEAKER_13: Hey John.
- 7:09SPEAKER_13: Tom's here.
- 7:10SPEAKER_13: Happy Freedom Friday.
- 7:12SPEAKER_13: Um I woke up to the sound of uh communist Kool-Aid in my head.
- 7:18SPEAKER_13: Question for you though.
- 7:20SPEAKER_13: What does it taste like?
- 7:22SPEAKER_13: And is it like champ red colored?
- 7:25SPEAKER_13: Have a great taste.
- 7:26SPEAKER_28: It's it uh uh communism Kool-Aid uh tastes like iron hook.
- 7:33SPEAKER_28: That's what it tastes like.
- 7:34SPEAKER_28: That song has not grabbed on the way that I hoped.
- 7:36SPEAKER_28: Can I just say that?
- 7:38SPEAKER_28: I think the song is awesome.
- 7:40SPEAKER_28: And as a matter of fact, it is an earworm to the nth degree.
- 7:44SPEAKER_28: Both my wife and I uh have been walking around going, she's like, I can't stop humming communism Kool-Aid.
- 7:50SPEAKER_28: This was the first time that um that Isaac had a chance to uh to hear communism uh Kool-Aid Self-True.
- 7:55SPEAKER_28: Yeah.
- 7:56SPEAKER_28: I do have an edit of it because somebody had said, uh, song's too slow and it's too long.
- 8:01SPEAKER_28: It's like two minutes.
- 8:02SPEAKER_28: Like, come on.
- 8:03SPEAKER_28: What's going on here?
- 8:06SPEAKER_28: You know, what are you doing over there?
- 8:08SPEAKER_23: Adjusting my mic.
- 8:10SPEAKER_23: Okay, you know you can turn it, you know you can turn it off before you start adjusting it.
- 8:13SPEAKER_23: No, I'm sorry.
- 8:14SPEAKER_23: Sorry, sorry.
- 8:14SPEAKER_23: I thought I was commenting on that.
- 8:19SPEAKER_23: Going off.
- 8:20SPEAKER_23: I love giving, I love giving Isaac a hard time.
- 8:22SPEAKER_28: I have to forget the people that haven't ever worked in radio before.
- 8:25SPEAKER_28: That's on me.
- 8:26SPEAKER_28: That's on me.
- 8:27SPEAKER_28: Yeah.
- 8:27SPEAKER_28: It's just like, you know, if you're if you're gonna be so a little uh on a production meeting, if you're gonna be doing anything with the equipment, shut it off before you start doing that.
- 8:34SPEAKER_23: All right, I'm gonna go silent now.
- 8:35SPEAKER_23: Maybe that's uh maybe you should do that.
- 8:37SPEAKER_28: So all right.
- 8:38SPEAKER_28: Uh a friend of the show um had reached out to me and uh he asked if he could leave a uh blast for his for his father.
- 8:49SPEAKER_28: And I said, absolutely, especially on a Freedom Friday.
- 8:52SPEAKER_28: So let's share this, uh share this with you this morning.
- 8:57SPEAKER_16: This is a shout out for my dad, who, after a long career in state government, is finally retiring.
- 9:04SPEAKER_16: I want to just say that I love you, dad.
- 9:07SPEAKER_16: I'm proud of you.
- 9:08SPEAKER_16: Um you're a great provider, and I hope this next chapter in your life is a great time for you.
- 9:15SPEAKER_16: Love you.
- 9:16SPEAKER_16: Have a great day.
- 9:18SPEAKER_28: Well, and congratulations and uh and happy retirement as uh as well.
- 9:22SPEAKER_28: And uh hope your dad uh heard that or gets caught up on the podcast.
- 9:26SPEAKER_28: Remember, you can leave a blast at any point throughout the show this morning.
- 9:29SPEAKER_28: That number is 612-584-4565.
- 9:32SPEAKER_28: And you can also email me, John.justice at AmericanExperiment.org.
- 9:39SPEAKER_18: Hi, John.
- 9:40SPEAKER_18: BJ from St.
- 9:41SPEAKER_18: Michael.
- 9:41SPEAKER_18: Hey, BJ.
- 9:43SPEAKER_18: I apparently am the only person advocating this position.
- 9:49SPEAKER_18: As a registered Republican in the state of Minnesota.
- 9:54SPEAKER_18: Yes, I'm one of those rare breeds.
- 9:58SPEAKER_18: Am I going to vote for myself before you like it?
- 10:56SPEAKER_18: Again, I would hear it being only one, but only when you're giving you a blast, I guess.
- 11:04SPEAKER_18: I I don't know.
- 11:06SPEAKER_18: It's not so cut and dry for me.
- 11:08SPEAKER_28: So you're not the only one, because I've heard from other people who have shared similar comments, and again, you do whatever you feel is best for you, right?
- 11:20SPEAKER_28: I'll I'll just share with you my opinion on the issue because we probably share the same view on abortion on abortion.
- 11:29SPEAKER_28: That being said, um, you know, are we giving away our morals if you vote for Michelle Tefoya?
- 11:34SPEAKER_28: In my opinion, well, no.
- 11:37SPEAKER_28: First off, she's vying for the Senate seat.
- 11:40SPEAKER_28: The abortion issue is now a state is uh issue.
- 11:42SPEAKER_28: So it she's not gonna have any say in the matter.
- 11:45SPEAKER_28: She's not going to be any sort of deciding vote, more than likely.
- 11:50SPEAKER_28: Okay, I can't imagine anything happening at the federal level.
- 11:52SPEAKER_28: Again, we've kicked the issue of abortion back to the states.
- 11:56SPEAKER_28: So it's not like she is going to have any say or any vote in lessening or or um you know, or making it even easier for uh babies to be aborted and to not vote for Michelle Tefoya on that issue, and again, this is not an endorsement, this is just me trying to help you through the situation because based off of your blast, it sounded like you were a bit uh you were a bit conflicted.
- 12:27SPEAKER_28: Uh, but to not go and vote uh vote, you know, vote for Michelle Tefoya is, and I do believe this, when this happens, if you just stay out of it, well, you are giving the opposition, you are giving Tina Smith the opportunity here, or um, you know, excuse me, you are giving Peggy Peggy Flanagan the opportunity here to to win, wherein on the issues on a national level that they would be voting on, which wouldn't be abortion, don't go handing that over to the far radical leftist, because on most of the other issues, Michelle Defoya probably agrees with you.
- 13:04SPEAKER_28: So I cannot understand an individual who would throw away their vote on something that is not going to have any sort of ramifications on the issue that you care about.
- 13:16SPEAKER_28: And and like I said, you are not the only one that has shared that view.
- 13:20SPEAKER_28: And you, but you you do whatever you need to do to feel comfortable.
- 13:24SPEAKER_28: I personally do not feel do not feel that way.
- 13:28SPEAKER_28: The easier way to say it, and I don't consider it this way, but you know, for some people, it's the lesser of two evils.
- 13:33SPEAKER_28: And so what is it you want?
- 13:35SPEAKER_28: You know, to stick to your, to your, to your morals regarding the issue of abortion and not vote for somebody who has a different view other than you, even though they have no control over the issue whatsoever.
- 13:48SPEAKER_28: You know, or make sure that, hey, this individual doesn't agree with me on this, but it's not gonna matter, but I am still gonna vote for him because on all the other issues, we do agree.
- 13:59SPEAKER_28: So I hope that uh helps because, like I said, I certainly could tell the uh the conflict uh that was uh that was in your voice in that.
- 14:08SPEAKER_28: And thank you so much for the first time.
- 14:09SPEAKER_18: I just want to leave a flash because of that previous flash about the guy from the plug in knowledge and vote for Michelle Capoya because abortion or whatever, but he'd rather vote for a Democrat that was pro-life.
- 14:27SPEAKER_18: Seriously, that's where you're gonna draw the line to throw away everything else just because somebody might be pro-life?
- 14:35SPEAKER_18: What's wrong with you, dude?
- 14:37SPEAKER_28: By the way, where would the mythical pro-life Democrat come from?
- 14:43SPEAKER_28: Is there any Democrat in America that is pro-life?
- 14:48SPEAKER_28: There may, maybe.
- 14:49SPEAKER_28: I I'm not aware.
- 14:49SPEAKER_28: Isaac, you aware of any Democrat in America that's pro-life?
- 14:52SPEAKER_23: No, and certainly, certainly not Peggy Flanagan.
- 14:54SPEAKER_28: Yeah, no, this is this is that is uh that is 100% true.
- 14:57SPEAKER_28: I cannot wait to share the audio that we have with her, by the way.
- 15:01SPEAKER_28: Not ready for she tosses Governor Dimwalls under the bus so hard.
- 15:06SPEAKER_28: I don't think yeah, he's flat as a pancake.
- 15:08SPEAKER_23: I can't tell you how hard I laughed at that when I saw that yesterday.
- 15:11SPEAKER_28: She's just just insane.
- 15:12SPEAKER_28: I'm gonna I'm holding off on it.
- 15:13SPEAKER_28: I know I'm teasing guys, but I'm holding off on it because I want to I want to wait until uh we get some of our freedom Friday.
- 15:18SPEAKER_28: Uh guests in uh in studio uh this morning.
- 15:21SPEAKER_18: Hey, good morning, John.
- 15:23SPEAKER_18: Good show so far.
- 15:25SPEAKER_18: The problem with the abortion guy there is it's a one-issue voter.
- 15:30SPEAKER_18: I mean, you can't go through life concerned about the one thing that people might not agree with you on and say burn the whole thing down.
- 15:39SPEAKER_18: I agree, yeah.
- 15:40SPEAKER_18: Pro life is the way to go.
- 15:41SPEAKER_18: Michelle play with you 100% full life.
- 15:46SPEAKER_18: It's not what we have, it's not reality, and you just need to live with it.
- 15:51SPEAKER_18: Take what's the best option and move on.
- 15:54SPEAKER_28: Let me let me I let me add one more thing to this, and again, not an endorsement, just an observation on the part of this host.
- 16:02SPEAKER_28: Like, I completely disagree with Michelle Tefoya on the abortion issue.
- 16:07SPEAKER_28: Um, I respect the fact that she says no taxpayer dollars for abortion, but we I just I completely disagree with her on the on the issue.
- 16:14SPEAKER_28: But I will say this I respect the her conviction.
- 16:21SPEAKER_28: I respect the fact that she's genuine and authentic.
- 16:26SPEAKER_28: Like on an issue that is so touchy for lack of a better word, on such a wedge issue, on one of the biggest issues.
- 16:37SPEAKER_28: I mean, that issue of abortion pretty much decided the trifecta for the DFL a few years ago.
- 16:45SPEAKER_28: They ran on abortion, they won on abortion.
- 16:47SPEAKER_28: So the fact that Michelle Tefoya is willing to run as a Republican and still hold firm to her own views, it says something about her character.
- 16:57SPEAKER_28: Again, not an endorsement of her, but just an observation in my view.
- 17:02SPEAKER_28: Even though I completely disagree, two things can be true at once.
- 17:05SPEAKER_28: I can absolutely respect her authenticity and the fact that she's not compromising her own views for the sake of running, and also, you know, completely disagree with her with her view on that uh on that particular uh issue.
- 17:20SPEAKER_28: Let's get back to uh some more of your thoughts from the blaster line this morning at 612-584-4565.
- 17:26SPEAKER_18: Good morning, John.
- 17:27SPEAKER_18: As far as the Republican candidates go, it's a pretty easy calculus.
- 17:31SPEAKER_18: Um when you're looking at the elections, I encourage everyone to participate and what they should be doing is who is Oh.
- 17:40SPEAKER_28: My apologies there, guys.
- 17:42SPEAKER_28: I had a bit of a let me uh I'll start over uh Joseph's comment because he makes a good comment here.
- 17:46SPEAKER_18: Good morning, John.
- 17:47SPEAKER_18: As far as the Republican candidates go, it's a pretty easy calculus.
- 17:51SPEAKER_18: Um when you're looking at the elections, I encourage everyone to participate, and what they should be doing is who is the candidate that most closely represents their policies and beliefs.
- 18:04SPEAKER_18: Now, in Michelle Two case, he is by far the better candidate for people of a conservative and Republican nature than the Democrat alternative.
- 18:14SPEAKER_18: It's not a difficult choice at all.
- 18:16SPEAKER_18: Is it fresh for them sometimes that we don't get everything that we want?
- 18:19SPEAKER_18: Yes, absolutely.
- 18:21SPEAKER_18: And people can feel that way.
- 18:22SPEAKER_18: But vote for the candidates who best aligns with your policies.
- 18:26SPEAKER_18: If you're missing on one big one, that sucks.
- 18:29SPEAKER_18: But hey, there's still better than alternative.
- 18:31SPEAKER_15: Have a good one.
- 18:32SPEAKER_28: Uh, friend of the show, uh Joseph, uh, thank you so much uh for the uh uh for the blast.
- 18:37SPEAKER_28: I greatly appreciate it.
- 18:38SPEAKER_28: Again, 612-584-4565.
- 18:41SPEAKER_28: And because it is a Freedom Friday, we will be taking your on and off a topic comments all morning long through uh the blaster line as our guests uh arrive here in the American Experimenta studio.
- 18:55SPEAKER_28: Uh, let me do a couple of uh business items, and then I want to dive into a few news stories that I have not had a chance to cover uh this uh this week, uh, including the Ramsey County trying to uh sue to keep the Somali gangs out of the Minnesota State Fair.
- 19:08SPEAKER_28: I want to give you details on that and more examples of how your tax dollars have been wasted, you probably have not heard about yet.
- 19:16SPEAKER_28: Um the fall briefing here at American Experiment this year will be featuring um well-known commentator, and I'm a huge fan of his, uh, Byron York.
- 19:27SPEAKER_28: Uh, the theming for the event will be the battle for Congress, an insider's look uh at the midterm elections.
- 19:34SPEAKER_28: The fall briefing with American Experiment is an event that you can attend uh to hear Byron York's uh comments on our midterm elections.
- 19:42SPEAKER_28: It's happening September 19th.
- 19:44SPEAKER_28: And if you want more details, simply head on over to AmericanExperiment.org and all of the information about how you can get tickets, the location is available there for the fall briefing.
- 19:54SPEAKER_28: Again, September 19th, featuring uh guest speaker Byron York.
- 19:58SPEAKER_28: I'm really looking forward to uh this event, and I hope to see all of the uh friends of the show there and foes if you're brave enough to uh to come and join us, since a few of them have uh finally found the show.
- 20:09SPEAKER_28: They figured out how to download an app.
- 20:11SPEAKER_28: That was good.
- 20:12SPEAKER_28: They figured out how to use their phone.
- 20:14SPEAKER_28: Finally.
- 20:14SPEAKER_28: It takes a while.
- 20:16SPEAKER_28: You know, Democrats are a bit slow.
- 20:18SPEAKER_28: Sometimes they need a lot of visual aids, but they have uh some of them have returned, and we are very pleased that they are back on the show.
- 20:25SPEAKER_28: One more item of uh note.
- 20:27SPEAKER_28: I just want to do a quick shout-out uh to uh the sponsors of the John Justice Show, uh Neutrowave, N-U-T-R-I-W-A-V-E.U.
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- 21:08SPEAKER_28: So thank you to uh Mini Leaf and Neutrowave, uh proud sponsors of the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
- 21:15SPEAKER_28: And if you want to also advertise here on the show, we're talking with a lot of individuals.
- 21:21SPEAKER_28: You're gonna hear a lot of great sponsors here on the show supporting what we're doing here at American Uh Experiment.
- 21:27SPEAKER_28: Uh drop me an email, John.justice again at AmericanExperiment uh.org, and I will uh get you in contact with the individuals who have uh been lining up uh the advertisers again that you'll hear on the show.
- 21:40SPEAKER_28: And I just appreciate the uh the support.
- 21:42SPEAKER_28: We're doing something uh different, something not a lot of people are doing.
- 21:45SPEAKER_28: I do truly believe that this is where um the conservative talk format is is heading, is what we're doing here.
- 21:53SPEAKER_28: Uh live streaming online across multiple uh platforms.
- 21:57SPEAKER_28: I've been talking about the the terrestrial.
- 22:00SPEAKER_28: Radio woes as of late.
- 22:02SPEAKER_28: And so um I just want to again say thank you to everybody who has supported the show and head on over to AmericaneExperiment.org as well.
- 22:09SPEAKER_28: There on the John Justice show page.
- 22:11SPEAKER_28: You can make a donation to American Experiment and get yourself a uh John Justice embroidered hat.
- 22:16SPEAKER_28: And I was told that we do have more official John Justice show merch coming very soon.
- 22:24SPEAKER_28: We have the mug available on the merchandise site, but uh Isaac and I uh got together and we uh picked out a bunch of uh various items that we can uh that we can offer up with the John Justice uh show uh logo.
- 22:36SPEAKER_28: So I encourage everybody to uh I picked all the cool items.
- 22:40SPEAKER_28: You did.
- 22:40SPEAKER_28: Well you made sure I didn't have hoodies on the list, and so Isaac was like you have to have a you have to have a hoodie.
- 22:46SPEAKER_23: Prove John wrong and go out and buy a hoodie.
- 22:48SPEAKER_28: No, I'm all I'm all for I'm all for hoodies.
- 22:50SPEAKER_28: I have no problem with a hoodie.
- 22:51SPEAKER_28: I just didn't do I just didn't do a hoodie.
- 22:54SPEAKER_28: I didn't do a zip hoodie, by the way.
- 22:55SPEAKER_28: I did a pullover hoodie.
- 22:56SPEAKER_28: Good.
- 22:56SPEAKER_28: Okay, okay.
- 22:58SPEAKER_28: I thought it was a right move.
- 22:59SPEAKER_23: Zip hoodies are no.
- 23:00SPEAKER_28: Yeah, I kind of I was that's kind of what I was thinking.
- 23:02SPEAKER_28: I'm not really all that up on uh, you know, the popularity of hoodies at the moment, but I saw them and I went, I don't think we want a zipper one.
- 23:10SPEAKER_28: I think we want a pullover one.
- 23:11SPEAKER_28: Correct.
- 23:11SPEAKER_28: Okay.
- 23:11SPEAKER_28: Well, it's a right move, and those should be available hopefully within the coming week at AmericanExperiment.org.
- 23:17SPEAKER_28: Let's go and hear from uh Blake.
- 23:20SPEAKER_14: Democrats are hungry on all their positions irrationally, but the abortion topic is one that is gonna be really difficult to change the mind of the country on for getting a candidate in eliminate taxpayer funded abortion into customer direction.
- 23:40SPEAKER_14: That's a big, big move if we can get the rest of the country to accept that the system standard that you're not gonna be able to have taxpayer dollars to fund your abortion, then we can start tripping away at the concept of abortion in general and start getting people to realize what they're actually doing when they're having their abortion.
- 24:00SPEAKER_28: Well, and getting back to the uh uh the uh the Michelle Tefoya Peggy Flanagan race, this is another reason why I think this race is going to be so incredibly entertaining.
- 24:11SPEAKER_28: Because of the fact that while many Republicans disagree with Tefoya's take on abortion, it's off the table.
- 24:18SPEAKER_28: So, you know, Peggy Flanagan can't use that against her, and it's already clear she doesn't have a good solid line of attack against Flanagan yet.
- 24:28SPEAKER_28: These interviews that she's been doing on MS Now, on local channels, on CNN that we have the audio to share, she's still defaulting to Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
- 24:39SPEAKER_28: That's all that she, you know, she gets asked a question, she gives a word solid answer, and then she defaults to Trump is bad, Trump is bad.
- 24:46SPEAKER_28: That's all that she has right now.
- 24:48SPEAKER_28: And I do not believe that this is going to be a winning strategy for her by uh by any by any stretch.
- 24:58SPEAKER_08: Hey, good morning, John Barry, and Andover.
- 25:01SPEAKER_08: Winning this November is simple.
- 25:03SPEAKER_08: You have to participate, that means participate.
- 25:07SPEAKER_08: You have to donate, that means give some money.
- 25:10SPEAKER_08: And you have to put aside your one single issue items and vote for who is the greater good for Minnesota.
- 25:18SPEAKER_08: It's just not complicated.
- 25:21SPEAKER_28: Uh, thank you for the comment.
- 25:22SPEAKER_28: Uh, as always, if you want to leave a blast, it's 612-584-4565.
- 25:28SPEAKER_28: So let's go, let's go here.
- 25:29SPEAKER_28: The Minnesota Attorney General's office and Ramsey County Attorney's Office, they filed lawsuits earlier this week to prevent two Somali gangs, the Muddy and the Vil.
- 25:40SPEAKER_28: V-I-L-L-E.
- 25:41SPEAKER_28: That's not Vile, right?
- 25:42SPEAKER_28: Is that Vill or Vile?
- 25:43SPEAKER_28: I don't know.
- 25:44SPEAKER_28: V-I-L-L-E?
- 25:45SPEAKER_23: V-I-L-L-E.
- 25:46SPEAKER_23: Is that Vill or Vile?
- 25:47SPEAKER_23: I don't know.
- 25:47SPEAKER_28: Do we care?
- 25:48SPEAKER_28: It's a gang.
- 25:49SPEAKER_28: Do we care if we're mispronouncing their name?
- 25:51SPEAKER_23: Lame gang name.
- 25:52SPEAKER_23: Yeah.
- 25:52SPEAKER_28: So is Muddy.
- 25:53SPEAKER_23: I don't, you know.
- 25:54SPEAKER_23: Yeah, seriously.
- 25:54SPEAKER_28: What happened to the old school Crips and Bloods?
- 25:56SPEAKER_28: I mean, that was just so, you know.
- 25:58SPEAKER_28: A lot cooler.
- 25:58SPEAKER_28: So straightforward.
- 25:59SPEAKER_23: Just Crips and Bloods.
- 26:00SPEAKER_23: Oh man, the muddies are coming for us now, John.
- 26:02SPEAKER_28: Yeah, it doesn't, that does not know.
- 26:04SPEAKER_28: The Villa's here.
- 26:05SPEAKER_28: Run away.
- 26:06SPEAKER_28: Oh no.
- 26:07SPEAKER_28: Now, if it's the vial.
- 26:08SPEAKER_28: Maybe.
- 26:09SPEAKER_28: I think that's V-I-L-E.
- 26:10SPEAKER_28: The double L there throws me off.
- 26:12SPEAKER_28: Anyway, um, they're trying to prevent these two Somali gangs from engaging in gang activity at the Minnesota State Fair.
- 26:17SPEAKER_28: Uh the lawsuits alleged the gangs are a public nuisance and have been involved in violent incidents, including shootings and brawls.
- 26:24SPEAKER_28: This plays into uh the scooter takeover on I-35 earlier in the week.
- 26:30SPEAKER_28: Um now, while that was less nefarious, I mean, this is something very similar.
- 26:34SPEAKER_28: Organizing via social media, encouraging individuals to gather in a group.
- 26:40SPEAKER_28: In the scooter takeover on I-35, that was a bunch of individuals just, you know, zooming around on scooters, breaking the law and putting their lives and others in danger on a uh on a major highway.
- 26:51SPEAKER_28: This is a lot more nefarious when it comes to these Somali gangs.
- 26:54SPEAKER_28: The lawsuits is seek injunctions against the gangs and their affiliates, prohibiting them from gathering and harassing individuals associated with the gangs.
- 27:02SPEAKER_28: The court documents allege that criminal gangs do constitute a public nuisance.
- 27:07SPEAKER_28: Uh, they've been connected to multiple violent incidents across the Twin Cities, including a triple shooting outside the fairgrounds in 2024, chaos and brawls at the state fair last year, shots fired at a Burnsville high school graduation, and a shooting that occurred during the Metro State graduation near the Grand Casino Arena in St.
- 27:24SPEAKER_28: Paul this spring.
- 27:25SPEAKER_28: Calm down, you people.
- 27:27SPEAKER_28: Crying out loud.
- 27:30SPEAKER_28: You know, we just need to build some uh some basketball courts.
- 27:32SPEAKER_28: That was always the solution that leftists always had.
- 27:35SPEAKER_28: You know what?
- 27:35SPEAKER_28: If we just had lit basketball courts so kids can just go play basketball late at night, we wouldn't have any of these problems.
- 27:42SPEAKER_28: A sworn affidavit included court filings from Ramsey County.
- 27:46SPEAKER_28: Uh, and gang expert uh Ben uh Seidel outlines the gang's structures and their violent activities in states that they have regularly used, the Minnesota State Fair in recent years to engage in criminal activity, and they're planning to do so at the 2026 Minnesota State Fair.
- 28:03SPEAKER_28: There was an image of a social media post that appears to foreshadow gang confrontations at the state fair uh that was included with the affidavit.
- 28:10SPEAKER_28: The lawsuits are predicated on a 2007 state law that allows criminal gangs to be classified as public nuisances.
- 28:18SPEAKER_28: The lawsuit asked the judge to prohibit the muddy and the villa gang members from gathering, confronting, intimidating, annoying, harassing, threatening, challenging, provoking, assaulting, or battering any person.
- 28:31SPEAKER_28: Yeah, the only batter that I want at the Minnesota State Fair is on my funnel cake.
- 28:36SPEAKER_28: Just saying that for the record.
- 28:41SPEAKER_28: Uh it goes on to say no uh battering of any person known to be a witness or a victim of or known to have complained about either gang.
- 28:50SPEAKER_28: The injunctive relief is requested for the entirety of the fair, beginning at 8 a.m.
- 28:56SPEAKER_28: Uh, opening morning, ending at 6 a.m.
- 28:59SPEAKER_28: after Labor Day.
- 29:00SPEAKER_28: The judge is set to hear evidence in the two cases at hearings scheduled.
- 29:05SPEAKER_28: Uh actually, those hearings took place uh took place yesterday, but I did not see any updates online.
- 29:09SPEAKER_28: Uh Ramsey County Attorney's Office issued a statement indicating that it was limited in what it could say ahead of yesterday's hearings, but offered a statement from Ramsey County attorney John uh Choi, just talking about the evidence and how they feel justified in moving forward to try to keep these individuals from going into the fair.
- 29:28SPEAKER_28: Listen, the only way that you can do that is to profile.
- 29:33SPEAKER_28: Which I'm totally fine with.
- 29:35SPEAKER_28: I guess I would then ask, okay, well, how are you going to profile?
- 29:38SPEAKER_28: I'm totally fine with that.
- 29:39SPEAKER_28: We had a um, and I've referenced this several times, and uh, you know, maybe I'll need to get uh David back on the show again sometime in the near future, and he can uh we can do this, um, we can do this again.
- 29:50SPEAKER_28: But he had talked about how ridiculous it was at airports that we're not properly profiling.
- 29:55SPEAKER_28: This idea, and we don't do it nearly as much anymore, but the idea that you would just pull randomly somebody waiting in line at the security checkpoint, and that was their level of security.
- 30:06SPEAKER_28: And the idea would be, well, anybody can get caught.
- 30:09SPEAKER_28: It's possible for anybody to be able to get swept up in all of this, so you just better be careful.
- 30:15SPEAKER_28: Don't plan on doing anything nefarious, right?
- 30:17SPEAKER_28: And David was always like, it's ridiculous.
- 30:19SPEAKER_28: They should be profiling individuals.
- 30:22SPEAKER_28: You should be looking at people that could fit the description of somebody that would go and commit a terrorist uh act on an airplane and go and question them appropriately.
- 30:32SPEAKER_28: Don't go violating any rights, but you are inside an airport, and that's what we should be doing, and we hadn't been.
- 30:39SPEAKER_28: So this is what needs to happen here with these gangs.
- 30:42SPEAKER_28: That being said, I really don't know exactly how you would go about doing that.
- 30:47SPEAKER_28: If you're not going to be profiling, I don't know how you plan on stopping them, apart from beefed up uh security.
- 30:53SPEAKER_28: If you want to chime in, 612-584-4565, that's the uh blaster line.
- 30:58SPEAKER_28: Representative uh Max Reimer joins us on the couch here on a uh on a freedom uh on a freedom Friday.
- 31:06SPEAKER_28: You have any idea how they would actually go about barring these?
- 31:09SPEAKER_28: Well, first off, is it vial or Ville the gang?
- 31:12SPEAKER_28: Which way do you go on it?
- 31:13SPEAKER_28: V-I-L-L-E.
- 31:15SPEAKER_28: You say viol or ville.
- 31:18SPEAKER_28: Try it again.
- 31:19SPEAKER_28: Nope, not yet.
- 31:21SPEAKER_28: Try it again.
- 31:23SPEAKER_28: A Vil.
- 31:25SPEAKER_28: So how do you Good morning, by the way?
- 31:27SPEAKER_28: Good morning.
- 31:28SPEAKER_28: Good to be here.
- 31:29SPEAKER_28: How uh how do you propose or you know, do you have any thoughts or insight on how they would actually block these gangs from going into the Minnesota State Fair?
- 31:39SPEAKER_30: Well, I think the only thing that you're left with, and you just alluded to it, is you're gonna have to profile a little bit.
- 31:44SPEAKER_30: Obviously, I don't know what kind of heat these people are packing when they come to the uh the state fair, but uh obviously I I think there was a court case that got one a few years ago where it said you can carry at the state fair.
- 32:00SPEAKER_30: So if they are carrying, maybe maybe checking to see that they have the proper documentation to actually carry a weapon into the state fair.
- 32:08SPEAKER_30: Uh, because I'm guessing a lot of these Ville gang members have not taken the time to get their concealed carry permit.
- 32:14SPEAKER_28: Yeah, it's the it's the Ville and the Muddy.
- 32:16SPEAKER_28: Those are the two gangs.
- 32:19SPEAKER_28: So they're the uh apparently they're the Minnesota modern day version of the Crips in the Bloods.
- 32:23SPEAKER_28: Okay, that's great.
- 32:24SPEAKER_28: At least that's what I'm glad they're here.
- 32:26SPEAKER_28: That's what I'm rolling with.
- 32:27SPEAKER_28: So as somebody who grew up watching uh Boys in the Hood and Colors and actually had first hand experience because I lived in that area at the time when the Crips and the Bloods were quite uh were quite uh quite prominent.
- 32:40SPEAKER_28: What's interesting about this too, and there's a story that we'll talk about later on, uh Max.
- 32:44SPEAKER_28: I don't know if you've had a chance to uh to see it, but um a report was released, and this is totally attached to the election, by the way.
- 32:52SPEAKER_28: But there was a report that was uh released talking about the tactics of the federal government as Operation Metro Surge was going on.
- 33:00SPEAKER_28: I'm looking at the headline here, I believe this is from I grabbed this one from the Minnesota Reformer, but it's the lead story on the Star Tribune right now.
- 33:09SPEAKER_28: As Minnesotans organized against ICE, DHS spied-on meetings, subpoenaed bank records according to court filings.
- 33:18SPEAKER_28: Well, what do you think is happening with the muddy and the and the VIL in all of this?
- 33:22SPEAKER_28: You have Ramsey County looking into the background of these individuals trying to keep them from going and conducting, you know, criminal activity during the Minnesota State Fair.
- 33:32SPEAKER_28: None of this surprises me.
- 33:33SPEAKER_28: I'm actually glad the federal government was doing this.
- 33:35SPEAKER_28: And as I mentioned, we'll get into further details on it later in the show as we get into the primary talk.
- 33:42SPEAKER_28: But this was released specifically now that the primary is over, because this is one of the things that the Democrat candidates are absolutely going to hammer or attempt to hammer against their GOP um opponents here in Minnesota.
- 33:56SPEAKER_28: It's going to be the issue of ICE and Operation Metro Surge.
- 33:59SPEAKER_30: Oh, yeah.
- 33:59SPEAKER_30: You see that uh across all of even the more overtly progressive media, and then the Star Tribune, which pretends it's not progressive.
- 34:08SPEAKER_30: You see the narrative being set here.
- 34:10SPEAKER_30: What they're gonna do is they're gonna say that ignore the fraud, ignore the actual problems that are happening across our state right now, and focus on Operation Metro Surge.
- 34:23SPEAKER_30: I think that has been established by Peggy Flanagan at this point, that that is gonna be what she is running on.
- 34:29SPEAKER_30: And you already see the narrative being set, and it'll just be an interesting experiment uh over the next few months to see how much people are willing to remember what happened in January versus what's happening in their lives right now.
- 34:43SPEAKER_30: Yeah.
- 34:43SPEAKER_28: And we're gonna get into all of that.
- 34:45SPEAKER_28: I'm waiting for the rest of our uh Freedom Friday crew here on the John Justice show, presented by American Experiment uh A.K.
- 34:51SPEAKER_28: Kamara and Catherine Johnson to join us in studio.
- 34:53SPEAKER_28: Uh, you're on and off-topic comments all morning long on the blaster line uh this morning here on the show.
- 34:59SPEAKER_06: Hey, John, good morning.
- 35:01SPEAKER_06: I find it ironic that they're going after these gangs and saying we don't want the metaphair.
- 35:06SPEAKER_06: And these people have been using as such.
- 35:11SPEAKER_06: Uh what happened during ICE mental spheres?
- 35:15SPEAKER_21: Yep, exactly.
- 35:15SPEAKER_06: Was the politician encouraging people to use their cell phones and organize like that?
- 35:20SPEAKER_06: Of course.
- 35:21SPEAKER_06: Thanks, buddy.
- 35:22SPEAKER_28: Great, great point.
- 35:23SPEAKER_28: Yeah.
- 35:24SPEAKER_28: No, it's a it's the it's the double standard.
- 35:26SPEAKER_28: I mean, it's there, it's blatant.
- 35:27SPEAKER_28: We see it almost uh we see it almost uh every single day here in Minnesota.
- 35:31SPEAKER_28: Let's go back to the blaster line.
- 35:41SPEAKER_18: If they weren't a little a little bit nervous going into the November election, folks.
- 35:45SPEAKER_18: Any type of violence at the fair this year is not gonna do well for the Democratic Party.
- 35:51SPEAKER_18: So they can do what they need to do if they have to.
- 35:54SPEAKER_18: They just choose to do it for election purposes, though.
- 35:56SPEAKER_28: Max, it is so interesting to see, just anecdotally, the commentary online right now from some, you know, very uh fairly well-known uh leftist uh commentators um as they try to frame the arguments for the candidates uh to use against the GOP candidates.
- 36:15SPEAKER_28: And I I don't want to project too much.
- 36:17SPEAKER_28: I'm trying to keep, you know, I'm trying to keep my own my own desire for victories in November at bay when I look at these comments, but they really come off as a bit of desperation and reek of concern that the GOP went and selected the slate of candidates that they did, no doubt.
- 36:36SPEAKER_30: And you can feel however you feel right now.
- 36:38SPEAKER_30: I I posted this online, it was like the day after the election.
- 36:42SPEAKER_30: You can feel however you want to feel about how Tuesday's primary turned out.
- 36:47SPEAKER_30: At the end of the day, I've been involved in Minnesota politics or on the peripheries of it since call it 2011.
- 36:55SPEAKER_30: And there's just no doubt that this is the most electable field that we have had statewide since I have been involved in politics.
- 37:04SPEAKER_30: And you do, you're already seeing the narratives come out and kind of the desperate narratives.
- 37:09SPEAKER_30: One thing that I saw yesterday was that Peggy Flanagan went on MSNBC to do an interview, and she is, to our benefit, she is incapable of pivoting off of her progressive DSA talking points.
- 37:24SPEAKER_30: Basically, she couldn't answer whether or not a 10-year-old should be castrated if they think they're transgender.
- 37:30SPEAKER_30: She's not going to be capable of moderating her message because she's not that smart.
- 37:35SPEAKER_28: No, she is not ready for prime time.
- 37:38SPEAKER_28: We have those uh audio clips to share a little bit uh later on in the show because I had to watch them a few times because I was like, wait a second.
- 37:47SPEAKER_28: Um is she really saying what I think or is she really saying what I think she's saying, or more specifically, is she really leaving out what I think that she's leaving out?
- 37:55SPEAKER_28: I mean, it's like she answers the question, kind of, does a word salad, and then, you know, either throws walls under the bus uh or and and then she ends up just defaulting to Trump is bad.
- 38:07SPEAKER_28: So we'll get into um we'll get into those details uh coming up uh when the rest of our guests uh join us this morning.
- 38:12SPEAKER_28: Keep the uh keep the comments rolling in to the blaster line at uh 612-584-4565.
- 38:19SPEAKER_28: I just want to take a quick moment and uh talk about the great night at sleep that I got last night, only because of the mini leaf night gummies.
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- 38:35SPEAKER_28: Now I get up, and here's another thing, too.
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- 38:53SPEAKER_28: Again, that's M-I-N-N-E-L-E-A-F uh.com.
- 38:58SPEAKER_28: Also, I want to mention that Mini Leaf is going to be out and about this weekend.
- 39:02SPEAKER_28: I'll have details on that coming up uh on uh on the show.
- 39:06SPEAKER_28: They're gonna be out.
- 39:06SPEAKER_28: There's a couple of uh couple of major fights that are going on uh this uh this weekend.
- 39:11SPEAKER_28: So Mini Leaf is gonna be uh on hand Saturday, August 15th, Canterbury Park.
- 39:17SPEAKER_28: There's a couple of fights going on.
- 39:18SPEAKER_28: I'm not even gonna try to pronounce these guys.
- 39:20SPEAKER_28: Uh we'll say we'll say McCoy, we'll say McCoy and Michael.
- 39:23SPEAKER_28: McCoy and Michael.
- 39:25SPEAKER_28: Uh tech Tech Ott versus Blochus.
- 39:28SPEAKER_28: Oh.
- 39:28SPEAKER_28: Sure?
- 39:29SPEAKER_28: We'll go with that.
- 39:30SPEAKER_28: Are these real people real people?
- 39:32SPEAKER_28: The Muddy versus the the Ville?
- 39:34SPEAKER_28: No, there's so Ignite Fights uh 114 happening at Canterbury Park on Saturday night.
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- 40:05SPEAKER_28: And if you're at Canterbury Park on Saturday night, go on by and say hi to Mini Leaf while you are there.
- 40:10SPEAKER_28: Let's get back to the blaster line here on the John Justice show.
- 40:14SPEAKER_20: One of the most erotic things about this lawsuit by Bob Fletcher against the Muddy and the Bill is that they're not banning anybody from the fair, they're just banning them from meeting up inside the fair.
- 40:29SPEAKER_28: Oh, okay.
- 40:30SPEAKER_28: So that kind of that's the case.
- 40:31SPEAKER_28: That kind of takes care of the problem of profiling.
- 40:34SPEAKER_28: So they're just not going to be able to get I don't know how they're gonna handle any of this.
- 40:37SPEAKER_30: How do they how do they determine who's actually part of the muddy and the veil?
- 40:41SPEAKER_30: Do they have ID cards?
- 40:43SPEAKER_30: Do they have a photo ID to be part of the gang?
- 40:45SPEAKER_28: It's almost like they have to go the other way.
- 40:46SPEAKER_28: If you are the muddy or the veil, make sure that you wear identifying clothing so that we can keep you.
- 40:51SPEAKER_30: Maybe that's engaging while you're unironically.
- 40:53SPEAKER_30: Maybe that's maybe that's part of it.
- 40:55SPEAKER_30: I don't know.
- 40:55SPEAKER_30: Um, because I'm not sure how you actually tell who who is who.
- 41:00SPEAKER_30: Again, uh, is there a membership card?
- 41:03SPEAKER_30: Is there a photo ID to get into the gang?
- 41:06SPEAKER_28: Well, back in the day with the Crips in the Blood, they wore the colors.
- 41:09SPEAKER_28: Yes.
- 41:09SPEAKER_28: And you wore the gang color.
- 41:10SPEAKER_28: You wore those gang colors proudly, you know, made you a target with drive-bys, but you still wore the so I don't know if the muddy and the villa have what do those banners look like?
- 41:19SPEAKER_28: Do they have do they have logos?
- 41:20SPEAKER_28: Do they have crests?
- 41:22SPEAKER_28: Yeah.
- 41:22SPEAKER_28: I don't know.
- 41:23SPEAKER_28: I'm not up.
- 41:24SPEAKER_28: I'm not up on my gangs.
- 41:25SPEAKER_23: A card carrying muddy member?
- 41:27SPEAKER_28: Yeah.
- 41:27SPEAKER_28: I have I have I have I don't know how they're going to do it.
- 41:30SPEAKER_30: Like I said, you probably need a photo ID to get into the muddy and not and you don't need a photo ID to vote in our our Minnesota elections.
- 41:37SPEAKER_28: Somebody, uh friend of the show, Pat did uh on uh on X said that uh they have said you cannot bring any the Minnesota State Fair website still says weapons of any type are not allowed.
- 41:49SPEAKER_30: I couldn't remember how that lawsuit sh shook out as I thought back on it.
- 41:53SPEAKER_30: I I seem to remember it being like overturned, but it wouldn't surprise me if it said that uh you you can't carry weapons into the into the state fair.
- 42:00SPEAKER_28: We have some blast rolling in that may have further answers for us.
- 42:03SPEAKER_28: Let's find out.
- 42:16SPEAKER_18: Thanks, John.
- 42:17SPEAKER_28: And again, you'd have to know who the members of the Muddy and the and the Ville are in order to utilize the facial recognition, but that could be uh it could be uh uh you know a part of it.
- 42:28SPEAKER_28: Well, they're they're pulling down all those flock cameras, um, Max.
- 42:32SPEAKER_28: So maybe they'll take some of the flock cameras and then move them over to the Minnesota State Fair.
- 42:36SPEAKER_28: Minnesota State.
- 42:37SPEAKER_30: Can it read faces too?
- 42:40SPEAKER_28: Your guess is your guess is as good as uh is as good as mine, my friend.
- 42:44SPEAKER_28: So uh I want to mention that we will be out of the Minnesota State Fair, Center of the American Experiment.
- 42:49SPEAKER_28: I will be there on uh Saturday, August 29th.
- 42:52SPEAKER_28: You're back.
- 42:53SPEAKER_28: You're back at the state fair.
- 42:54SPEAKER_28: That's right.
- 42:55SPEAKER_28: Hey.
- 42:56SPEAKER_28: You're thrilled about that.
- 42:58SPEAKER_28: Oh, I am.
- 42:58SPEAKER_28: Well, I'm doing it right this year.
- 42:59SPEAKER_28: I'm gonna have Melinda drop me off.
- 43:01SPEAKER_28: There you go.
- 43:01SPEAKER_28: Yeah, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna play this.
- 43:03SPEAKER_28: I can't I can't get into doing the bus in.
- 43:06SPEAKER_28: I just I don't know why.
- 43:07SPEAKER_28: Pinky's up.
- 43:08SPEAKER_28: I I just Drew would always do the bus.
- 43:10SPEAKER_28: He raved about the bus.
- 43:12SPEAKER_28: He raved about using that, and he's pro he was probably right.
- 43:16SPEAKER_28: May he uh rest it in uh may he rest in peace.
- 43:19SPEAKER_28: I just can't do it.
- 43:19SPEAKER_28: So this year I think I'm gonna have Melinda or or have one of our sons drop Melinda and uh me off at the fair on August 29th.
- 43:26SPEAKER_30: So some of my fondest memories of the state fair were when you guys did the radio program right in front of the Minnesota GOP booth.
- 43:33SPEAKER_28: Yeah, before they went and sold the the uh the Twin Cities news talk booth.
- 43:37SPEAKER_30: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 43:38SPEAKER_30: I I like that.
- 43:39SPEAKER_30: I I liked it.
- 43:40SPEAKER_30: It created a little buzz around the uh the GOP booth.
- 43:44SPEAKER_28: That was the uh that booth was cool.
- 43:46SPEAKER_28: I understood why why iHeart got rid of the got rid of the building because you know, as the as the life talent on the radio station shrunk, it was just us, and then we were hardly using it.
- 43:56SPEAKER_28: So I completely understand why they got rid of it.
- 43:58SPEAKER_28: But that was a fun it was.
- 44:00SPEAKER_28: Fun.
- 44:00SPEAKER_28: That was a fun.
- 44:00SPEAKER_28: That was a fun building at the fair.
- 44:02SPEAKER_28: I'll be there 11 to 1 on Saturday, August 29th, and there are boxes filled with all kinds of amazing uh American experiment logoed free stuff that we'll be giving out at the state fair.
- 44:16SPEAKER_28: And we've got a wheel and something fun plan with the wheel.
- 44:18SPEAKER_28: Isaac, were you in on the wheel conversation, the spinning of the wheel and what we're doing?
- 44:22SPEAKER_23: It's a big debate around here.
- 44:23SPEAKER_28: Is this are they still debating what they that they want to do?
- 44:25SPEAKER_28: I believe it's finalized.
- 44:26SPEAKER_28: Yeah, Bill Walsh had a fantastic idea.
- 44:28SPEAKER_23: It was like the muddies versus the Bill back then.
- 44:30SPEAKER_28: It really, yeah, it got almost.
- 44:31SPEAKER_28: It got it got pretty ugly.
- 44:33SPEAKER_28: Um are you going to the fair any particular day then?
- 44:37SPEAKER_27: You're gonna be there.
- 44:37SPEAKER_27: I'll be there.
- 44:38SPEAKER_27: All right.
- 44:39SPEAKER_27: I why not?
- 44:40SPEAKER_27: I'll go.
- 44:40SPEAKER_28: I'll go a day or two.
- 44:41SPEAKER_28: Okay, so we got one in August 29th, 11 to 1, Matt.
- 44:44SPEAKER_28: There we go.
- 44:45SPEAKER_28: Hopefully you'll come on out.
- 44:45SPEAKER_28: I'll be there.
- 44:46SPEAKER_28: We'll see if we can get the rest of the.
- 44:47SPEAKER_28: Well, I think the I think the the girls will be there.
- 44:49SPEAKER_28: I think uh wildcard Catherine and Grayson.
- 44:52SPEAKER_28: Oh, Grace will not be there.
- 44:53SPEAKER_28: No.
- 44:55SPEAKER_23: Where's she going?
- 44:55SPEAKER_23: I don't know.
- 44:56SPEAKER_23: I'm taking her shift.
- 44:57SPEAKER_23: Okay.
- 44:58SPEAKER_23: Unfortunately, you're gonna have to deal with me and what a bummer.
- 45:00SPEAKER_28: I know.
- 45:01SPEAKER_28: She's not here today either.
- 45:02SPEAKER_28: I know.
- 45:03SPEAKER_28: I think she's mad at me because I called her, I called her the uh the John Justice show Word Police.
- 45:07SPEAKER_28: I think she's still upset at me.
- 45:09SPEAKER_28: Because she's very, very vocal when we use particular terminology and she's I do not want you using that.
- 45:14SPEAKER_30: So I appreciate it.
- 45:15SPEAKER_30: Maybe Grace is gone big time.
- 45:16SPEAKER_30: Maybe she's just got better stuff to do.
- 45:18SPEAKER_30: I don't know.
- 45:18SPEAKER_28: Is that true?
- 45:18SPEAKER_28: Do we know?
- 45:19SPEAKER_28: Is there any inside information?
- 45:20SPEAKER_28: Is she joining the muddy or the villa?
- 45:22SPEAKER_28: I hope not.
- 45:22SPEAKER_28: Okay.
- 45:23SPEAKER_28: All right, let's go here.
- 45:24SPEAKER_28: So I had a couple of different stories here, Max.
- 45:26SPEAKER_28: And it's funny because um, this happens not that often, but it happens on occasion.
- 45:32SPEAKER_28: Like I'll land on an instinctive reaction and point to a particular story, and then subsequently, like within a day, if I don't get to it, there's another story that pops up that reinforces my point, and then I end up patting myself on the back.
- 45:43SPEAKER_28: I'll go, good job.
- 45:44SPEAKER_28: Good job, host.
- 45:45SPEAKER_28: You talk smart.
- 45:47SPEAKER_28: Minnesota startup Flex Forge received 1.0 in state funding despite missing a deadline to report on its spending and job creation.
- 45:57SPEAKER_28: The company, which was not registered with the state when it requested the funding, claimed to be an established business with 10 employees.
- 46:06SPEAKER_28: The Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development deed acknowledged the oversight shortcomings and stated it should have ensured the report was submitted before sending the payment.
- 46:18SPEAKER_28: So, um, first off, do you have an instinctive reaction to this, Max Reimer?
- 46:22SPEAKER_30: No.
- 46:23SPEAKER_28: I mean the Okay.
- 46:24SPEAKER_30: I have more.
- 46:25SPEAKER_30: I have more.
- 46:25SPEAKER_30: What do they do?
- 46:26SPEAKER_30: What is what is the value proposition of Flex Forge?
- 46:29SPEAKER_28: Uh Flex Forge uh appeared before lawmakers in 2023, asking for$10 million to create more than 160 manufacturing jobs at their facility in Brooklyn uh park.
- 46:42SPEAKER_28: They are an EV startup in answer to your question.
- 46:45SPEAKER_28: Okay.
- 46:45SPEAKER_28: So we're going we're going green on this.
- 46:47SPEAKER_28: Okay.
- 46:48SPEAKER_28: Um basically, Minnesota kept sending thousands of grants to the EV startup that missed a key reporting.
- 46:54SPEAKER_28: So my point on this when I was going through the story was the lonely highway theory, right?
- 46:59SPEAKER_28: Okay, if it's happening with this company, okay, who else is out there skirt skirting the rules?
- 47:06SPEAKER_28: And how many more millions are we simply throwing away?
- 47:09SPEAKER_28: So that was my initial reaction, right?
- 47:11SPEAKER_28: Okay.
- 47:12SPEAKER_28: Well, then I end up uh finding this uh other story.
- 47:16SPEAKER_28: The next day, failing Minneapolis housing complex kept getting millions in federal state dollars.
- 47:26SPEAKER_28: So lonely highway theory, lonely highway theory now proven fact.
- 47:32SPEAKER_28: Federal inspectors gave Heritage Park failing or near failing scores multiple times, including a score of zero last year.
- 47:40SPEAKER_28: A failing score is anything under 60.
- 47:43SPEAKER_28: And scores under 80 require yearly inspections.
- 47:47SPEAKER_28: But despite the results, the Department of Housing and Urban Development continued sending about$85,000 a month to the property, totaling more than$1 million a year, according to records.
- 48:01SPEAKER_28: By the way, the tenants at Heritage Park said they have dealt with mold, rodents, broken air conditioners, and boarded up windows for years.
- 48:12SPEAKER_28: The place was a slum.
- 48:13SPEAKER_28: It was an absolute slum.
- 48:15SPEAKER_28: And yet they still continue to get millions in federal dollars.
- 48:21SPEAKER_28: I these these things, and John Feland's got a piece on this.
- 48:25SPEAKER_28: Another day, another scheme where the state government wastes hundreds of thousands of your hard-earned dollars.
- 48:30SPEAKER_28: I mean, you have the fraud issue, Representative Max Reimer, and then you have, I don't even know what you don't put this under.
- 48:37SPEAKER_28: Do you put this, would you put this under fraud or would you put this under lack of oversight or some other oversight?
- 48:43SPEAKER_30: Yeah.
- 48:44SPEAKER_30: To give our audience just a sense for how Minnesota government operates, writ large, right?
- 48:51SPEAKER_30: Minnesota government, they establish this is what you are responsible for.
- 48:55SPEAKER_30: These are the mandates that we're passing down to you.
- 48:57SPEAKER_30: And then what they do is they historically they outsource the actual mechanism for how their new program is implemented.
- 49:07SPEAKER_30: And that outsourcing can go to counties, and that outsourcing, especially during the trifecta, goes to specific named grant recipients.
- 49:17SPEAKER_30: Okay.
- 49:17SPEAKER_30: And when you have situations like this where people are getting doled out cash to fulfill a warrant that the government says they need to, what has become very apparent is there's no oversight.
- 49:31SPEAKER_30: There has been no oversight of these companies like Flexforge.
- 49:35SPEAKER_30: And federal dollars are very similar, right?
- 49:37SPEAKER_30: Ultimately, federal dollars are administered by counties or specific grant recipients.
- 49:42SPEAKER_30: And in the same way, this isn't fraud.
- 49:45SPEAKER_30: This is just not caring about where Minnesota tax dollars are actually going.
- 49:50SPEAKER_28: John Phelan writes this in a piece this week, available up at uh AmericaneExperiment.org.
- 49:57SPEAKER_28: Minnesota's state government has lost billions of dollars in taxpayer money in recent years to fraud.
- 50:03SPEAKER_28: He says, let's call this category one.
- 50:05SPEAKER_28: And this leans into exactly what I was talking about, Max.
- 50:08SPEAKER_28: There, uh then there is all the taxpayer money which is spent as intended, but those intentions are wasteful.
- 50:15SPEAKER_28: The egregious examples receiving our not coveted golden turkey award.
- 50:20SPEAKER_28: Let's call this category two.
- 50:23SPEAKER_28: Then there is taxpayer money, which is just lost through rank and competence.
- 50:29SPEAKER_28: Let's call this category three.
- 50:32SPEAKER_28: You know, the thing of it is I like his category, but you know, now you're getting into like a hurricane status.
- 50:37SPEAKER_28: When is Minnesota gonna hit like category five where it's unrecoverable and it just lays waste to the entire state?
- 50:44SPEAKER_28: He talks about Flexforge in here, too.
- 50:46SPEAKER_28: He in exactly what we were talking about in category two.
- 50:50SPEAKER_28: Um, he talks about the funding requirements, FlexForge submitting information detailing how the money was spent, but the company missing the deadline and they're still receiving uh the dollars, uh, the dollars anyway.
- 51:02SPEAKER_28: Uh it's it's ridiculous.
- 51:04SPEAKER_28: It's absolutely ridiculous.
- 51:06SPEAKER_28: And how different would everything be if we got all of this under control, if we got the fraud under control, because that fraud number is one thing, and we've you know sort of pontificated that it could be as much as 10, 11, 12 billion.
- 51:19SPEAKER_28: Well, how much more would we add to it when you get into these other categories that John Feeling was talking about?
- 51:24SPEAKER_30: Just waste and incompetence.
- 51:26SPEAKER_30: And here's the deal this is the conversation that we need to start having.
- 51:29SPEAKER_30: And God willing, Lisa Damuth is our next governor.
- 51:32SPEAKER_30: We have a trifecta going into the legislature.
- 51:34SPEAKER_30: Obviously, we have taken measures this past legislative session to establish an office that will go after what we'll call category one, I would say.
- 51:43SPEAKER_30: Category one being the overt fraud.
- 51:47SPEAKER_30: Okay.
- 51:48SPEAKER_30: But the way that you prevent category one, two, and three from ever occurring is re-evaluating what Minnesota government is responsible for providing.
- 51:59SPEAKER_30: Okay.
- 52:00SPEAKER_30: There's less fraud if there's less programs, period.
- 52:04SPEAKER_30: Okay.
- 52:06SPEAKER_30: Not every DFL created program is just so untouchable, is doing such good work 100% of the time that it can't be eliminated, right?
- 52:18SPEAKER_30: We have to start looking at what are the critical services that these programs provide, but then you're gonna tell me that we really believed at one point in time Flexforge, this random, obviously fake company, was going to produce so many electric vehicles that it was gonna benefit Minnesota Minnesota society.
- 52:38SPEAKER_30: No, that like the answer was no then.
- 52:41SPEAKER_30: The answer is obviously no now, and the only way that you get back to some kind of like semblance of normalcy is eliminating these obviously ridiculous programs that subsidize companies that shouldn't exist to begin with.
- 52:56SPEAKER_28: If you want to uh comment on the show on a Freedom Friday for um for Max or for AK, who'll be joining us soon, Catherine Johnson and myself, you can do so by leaving us a blast at 612-584-4565.
- 53:09SPEAKER_28: And it is a Freedom Friday, so that means you're on and off topic comments all morning long as we work through some of the stories of the day.
- 53:15SPEAKER_28: Let's get back to the um election and hear from Tom.
- 53:22SPEAKER_18: You guys sound very confident that the Republicans are going to win this November.
- 53:31SPEAKER_18: You think you've been in Minnesota politics?
- 53:34SPEAKER_18: Not for yet.
- 53:36SPEAKER_18: Remember, excuse me.
- 53:41SPEAKER_16: Oh, I never forget.
- 53:42SPEAKER_18: Like it or not, we are this is going to be a very, very challenging election.
- 53:50SPEAKER_18: There's a chance.
- 53:51SPEAKER_18: But don't get overcontrolled.
- 53:53SPEAKER_18: We have a lot of work to do.
- 53:55SPEAKER_18: No doubt.
- 53:56SPEAKER_18: A lot of idiots in those days.
- 53:58SPEAKER_28: Listen, two things can be true at once.
- 54:00SPEAKER_28: Um, you know, you can have confidence, but also understand the the difficulties, you know, and the uphill battle that we are facing here in the in the state.
- 54:10SPEAKER_28: I feel like that gets lost on a lot of people, and no offense to anybody for that, but it's this there's these default sort of mentalities where if you talk about the fact that you're confident, you think this is like I do.
- 54:21SPEAKER_28: I think this is the best slate of candidates providing the GOP the best opportunity to win statewide elections in a manner that I haven't seen since I've been doing politics here.
- 54:32SPEAKER_28: That's just my opinion of the GOP's chances.
- 54:35SPEAKER_28: But again, that doesn't mean that I'm, you know, turning a blind eye to how difficult it's it's going to be.
- 54:41SPEAKER_28: Um, I guess I thought that was a given, but it feels like it gets lost on some of the some of the friends of the show.
- 54:46SPEAKER_30: Yeah, and make no mistake, I I have seen enough, I have seen enough stuff here where you feel good about the cycle, you feel good about the environment, you feel generally good about the candidates, and then a bomb gets dropped on you on election night.
- 55:00SPEAKER_30: And there for as long as I live in Minnesota, there will never be, oh, we got this.
- 55:06SPEAKER_30: It's a slam dunk.
- 55:07SPEAKER_30: I don't think I'll ever feel that.
- 55:09SPEAKER_30: But what uh just to reiterate was what John was saying is it feels like we're in the fight.
- 55:15SPEAKER_30: It feels like we we got a chance, and I'm not saying that anything's a foregone conclusion.
- 55:22SPEAKER_30: There's obviously a ton of work to do if you're listening.
- 55:24SPEAKER_30: You should get involved with some of these campaigns, try to donate, try to get uh sign up to door knock and things of that nature.
- 55:32SPEAKER_30: It is not a given.
- 55:34SPEAKER_30: I mean, don't no mistake me.
- 55:36SPEAKER_30: I'm I will never say that.
- 55:37SPEAKER_28: I would much rather, and it's just how I kind of approach things, I would much rather approach things from an optimistic view, even if it is gonna be a difficult task, even if it is gonna be an uphill battle.
- 55:49SPEAKER_28: I it you know, I mean, you could I could use the example of you know, starting here at Center of the American experiment, knowing everything that it would entail to go and pull off this unique show and live situation that we're that we're doing here.
- 56:04SPEAKER_28: I'm not gonna go into it, and I didn't go into it going, oh, you know what, this is I don't know how I'm ever gonna do this, this is gonna fail.
- 56:09SPEAKER_28: Why am I even bothering?
- 56:10SPEAKER_28: I don't know.
- 56:11SPEAKER_28: No, I went in going, no, we're gonna make this happen.
- 56:13SPEAKER_28: We're gonna work through the challenges, and there were a lot of challenges.
- 56:16SPEAKER_28: We're gonna work through our technical difficulties, we're gonna solve our problems, and then we're gonna go live on a particular uh date.
- 56:21SPEAKER_28: And I did it with optimism.
- 56:22SPEAKER_28: And so I I know people approach these elections differently.
- 56:26SPEAKER_28: Uh, but it's like, I I'll take that over the individuals who are just the why bother?
- 56:31SPEAKER_28: I'm throwing my hands up, we're never gonna win.
- 56:33SPEAKER_28: There's too much fraud, there's too much corruption.
- 56:34SPEAKER_28: Why are you even bother talking about it?
- 56:36SPEAKER_28: I'd much rather have an individual who's out there, you know, saying, don't get overconfident in the person who's basically just given up.
- 56:42SPEAKER_30: Yeah, for sure.
- 56:43SPEAKER_30: I and and to the people who have given up, I'm I'm just not sure why you you stick around Minnesota.
- 56:50SPEAKER_30: If you felt like Minnesota was beyond redemption, beyond saving, it'd be it'd be tough for me to want to continue to invest my time and energy and effort into elections and trying to get us back on track and being in the legislature.
- 57:03SPEAKER_30: But I think most of us have like an acute understanding that it's not too far gone yet.
- 57:09SPEAKER_30: No, you know, we probably do have just one election cycle.
- 57:13SPEAKER_30: Like where if I I thought I've thought about this a lot.
- 57:16SPEAKER_30: Where if Michelle Tefoya, who now is aesthetically a moderate candidate who uh has pro who's pro-choice, you take that issue off the table, if she can't beat just a straight up communist, just a straight up Democrat socialist, this is a real test for where we actually are in Minnesota right now.
- 57:37SPEAKER_28: Yeah, no, I can I completely agree.
- 57:39SPEAKER_28: And even for those individuals, just to add a little bit more insight as we head into hour two on a Freedom Friday, it's the John Justice show presented by American Um Experiment.
- 57:49SPEAKER_28: And I have something uh very uh special for everybody coming up here uh in a moment as our uh guests uh continue to uh work their way into the uh into the studio this morning.
- 57:59SPEAKER_28: But there were a lot of individuals concerned over the turnout numbers, and we'll talk more about this in the hour.
- 58:05SPEAKER_28: Um the truth is that while there was disparity between the number of Democrats, DFLers that ended up coming out for the uh for the primary election and Republicans, it actually was lower numbers compared to, I think, 2020 for the Democrats, and it broke records for GOP turnouts.
- 58:25SPEAKER_28: Yes.
- 58:25SPEAKER_28: So there's always a difference there in the number of Democrats come, you know, who are out voting in primaries over Republicans, but everybody was freaking out when the reality is, no, the Republicans actually had a great showing, whereas Democrats were lower than they typically were.
- 58:38SPEAKER_28: Uh let's go back to the blaster line at 612-584-4565.
- 58:43SPEAKER_28: Friend of the show, uh lawyer James Dickey has a comment this morning.
- 58:50SPEAKER_18: Good morning, John.
- 58:51SPEAKER_18: Happy Freedom Friday.
- 58:52SPEAKER_18: This is James Dickey.
- 58:54SPEAKER_18: On the shelter player, there is one way he can store out support among pro-lifers on abortion.
- 59:00SPEAKER_18: Uh in 2022, the U.S.
- 59:03SPEAKER_18: Senate voted on a bill to codify roadie wave when the Supreme Court decision would be.
- 59:09SPEAKER_18: But the only reason it failed with uh Democratic control voted with the Republican.
- 59:19SPEAKER_18: So the 49 to 51 vote because of that.
- 59:22SPEAKER_18: It's complicated that God itself and the Supreme Court does not automatically mean that Congress can't try to nationalize the abortion issue.
- 59:32SPEAKER_18: So put in, in my opinion, every proliferation is open law not sacrificing her own view on abortion, if she would pledge not to vote in favor of a bill like that, because it should be a state issue in the minds of many conservatives.
- 1:02:24SPEAKER_28: And Freedom Friday here on a Freedom Friday with a full house this morning.
- 1:02:30SPEAKER_28: I am very pleased to welcome onto the comfy chair and the sofas of the American Experiment to Studio.
- 1:02:36SPEAKER_28: Katherine uh Johnson, the wild card of our group.
- 1:02:38SPEAKER_28: Good morning, Catherine.
- 1:02:39SPEAKER_12: Good morning.
- 1:02:40SPEAKER_28: How are we doing this morning?
- 1:02:41SPEAKER_12: Uh very good, I would say.
- 1:02:43SPEAKER_28: Okay.
- 1:02:43SPEAKER_12: Ready to ready to have some takes.
- 1:02:45SPEAKER_28: You're ready.
- 1:02:45SPEAKER_28: You're you're you're ready for some freedom on a on a Friday?
- 1:02:48SPEAKER_12: Always.
- 1:02:48SPEAKER_12: Always.
- 1:02:48SPEAKER_12: That was a banger, by the way.
- 1:02:50SPEAKER_12: I love that song.
- 1:02:51SPEAKER_28: These these songs have no business being as good as they are.
- 1:02:55SPEAKER_28: I mentioned it uh yesterday.
- 1:02:57SPEAKER_28: If I were a musician, I'd be like terrified right now.
- 1:02:59SPEAKER_28: Uh representative uh Max Reimer is also in the house.
- 1:03:02SPEAKER_30: You know, they've gotten better even since we first started uh looking into the AI music creating.
- 1:03:08SPEAKER_28: That was a one take, by the way.
- 1:03:09SPEAKER_28: That was one take, one prompt.
- 1:03:11SPEAKER_28: Nailed it.
- 1:03:12SPEAKER_28: I have two different versions.
- 1:03:13SPEAKER_28: I played one earlier, but I sent them both to you, Max, but you didn't you didn't did you respond to me?
- 1:03:18SPEAKER_28: No, but I listened.
- 1:03:19SPEAKER_28: Oh, okay.
- 1:03:19SPEAKER_28: No, I wanted your take.
- 1:03:21SPEAKER_28: I wanted your thoughts.
- 1:03:22SPEAKER_28: I said, which one do you prefer?
- 1:03:24SPEAKER_28: I didn't want to spoil it to the entire Freedom Friday group.
- 1:03:27SPEAKER_27: I listened to them.
- 1:03:28SPEAKER_28: Okay, I wanted to know, go with this one.
- 1:03:30SPEAKER_27: I wanted you to make a decision.
- 1:03:31SPEAKER_27: Early.
- 1:03:32SPEAKER_27: Okay, fine.
- 1:03:33SPEAKER_27: Doing my best.
- 1:03:34SPEAKER_26: Read your text next time.
- 1:03:35SPEAKER_27: RNC committeeman, aka Kamara.
- 1:03:37SPEAKER_26: Good morning.
- 1:03:38SPEAKER_26: What's up, bro?
- 1:03:39SPEAKER_26: You know, I was I was listening on the drive in this morning, and when you guys were discussing the gang stuff, I have a lot different and better insight of actually what is occurring and happening.
- 1:03:51SPEAKER_26: Oh, okay.
- 1:03:52SPEAKER_26: On a freaking Friday, please.
- 1:03:54SPEAKER_28: So let's let's let's back up.
- 1:03:56SPEAKER_28: So Ramsey County is looking at filing a lawsuit against uh the muddy and the is it the Ville or the Vile?
- 1:04:03SPEAKER_28: I'm not sure if it's Ville or Vile.
- 1:04:04SPEAKER_27: Well, you don't know what you said, you know.
- 1:04:06SPEAKER_26: I already knew better.
- 1:04:07SPEAKER_26: I would assume that it's vile.
- 1:04:10SPEAKER_26: That would be my assumption.
- 1:04:11SPEAKER_26: But it's but they spell it the villa doesn't mean anything.
- 1:04:14SPEAKER_26: I know, but they just put an extra L in there for probably some type of Somali word for something.
- 1:04:20SPEAKER_26: It's more street.
- 1:04:21SPEAKER_26: Is it more street?
- 1:04:22SPEAKER_26: Because Vile is V-I-L-E.
- 1:04:24SPEAKER_26: So back in the day, right, there's all these different gangs, right?
- 1:04:27SPEAKER_26: So like bloods and crips are just two specific gangs.
- 1:04:30SPEAKER_26: Right.
- 1:04:30SPEAKER_26: And then there's a bunch of other ones.
- 1:04:32SPEAKER_26: One of the more prominent gangs is something called the Vice Lords.
- 1:04:36SPEAKER_26: And for a while they had the IVL, which was the insane vice lords, because they're like an offshoot.
- 1:04:42SPEAKER_26: So when it comes to gangs in general, all it is is a group of people that get together, say, we have a code.
- 1:04:48SPEAKER_26: We want to basically take over the organized crime in this kind of geographical location.
- 1:04:54SPEAKER_26: Okay.
- 1:04:54SPEAKER_26: And a lot of it will be based off of where they live.
- 1:04:57SPEAKER_26: And with the Somali gangs, more specifically, it's neighborhoods and then also clans, right?
- 1:05:04SPEAKER_26: And so the problem is how do you stop people from associating with a group of other individuals when they haven't broken a law just by simply associating?
- 1:05:14SPEAKER_26: Right.
- 1:05:15SPEAKER_26: And so that's why this injunction is being pushed.
- 1:05:18SPEAKER_26: Some people are like, well, like just stop the gang members.
- 1:05:20SPEAKER_26: It's like, well, how?
- 1:05:21SPEAKER_26: You can't just arrest someone because they're affiliated with someone.
- 1:05:24SPEAKER_26: So the other part to kind of give a broader context, how do they know who they are?
- 1:05:29SPEAKER_26: Ramsey County, Washington County, Hennepin County all have a gang task force and they compile known associates of people that are arrested that are affiliated with other gangs.
- 1:05:42SPEAKER_26: Because one of the things that gangs do to be able to spread their fear is they claim different types of violent acts.
- 1:05:51SPEAKER_26: So if you arrest someone and they're like, you know, going to jail or going to county, people are gonna identify who are you with.
- 1:06:00SPEAKER_26: With who are you representing?
- 1:06:01SPEAKER_26: And they compile that information.
- 1:06:03SPEAKER_26: So I have a buddy that is an ex-cop and he keeps files on all of these known gang members for all these different clicks, whether it's motorcycle gangs, and he had like a database that had like 40,000 people in it, quite literally.
- 1:06:18SPEAKER_28: So Ramsey, so what you're saying is a Ramsey County basically, under this nuisance law, uh moved forward in this injunction to keep these gangs from gathering inside of the Minnesota State Fair.
- 1:06:30SPEAKER_28: Is what you're saying is they are very full aware of who these individuals are and can easily identify them on site if need be.
- 1:06:37SPEAKER_28: Okay.
- 1:06:38SPEAKER_28: Correct.
- 1:06:38SPEAKER_28: And so that answers that question.
- 1:06:40SPEAKER_12: Just really quick, if we know who they are, why aren't they just like in jail?
- 1:06:44SPEAKER_26: Because there's not a law that says you can't be involved in a gang.
- 1:06:47SPEAKER_26: There's a law that says you can't steal or whatever.
- 1:06:50SPEAKER_26: And if you're caught doing those things, but this is why federally they had to create RICO.
- 1:06:55SPEAKER_12: RICO is Yeah, I thought they solved this with the mob.
- 1:06:58SPEAKER_26: Yes.
- 1:06:59SPEAKER_26: So in order to have RICO charges from a federal standpoint, because it's not Minnesota RICO, which something that maybe Lisa Damath, when she wins, she should do is put together some legislation with legislators about having that to stop the violence.
- 1:07:12SPEAKER_26: Is that if you are caught organizing for things outside of just specifically crime, if you are conspiring to commit a crime, you should be able to be arrested.
- 1:07:21SPEAKER_26: Now, federally, if the Fed stepped in and they had enough evidence, they could shut down these gangs.
- 1:07:26SPEAKER_26: But that'd be super, super heavy-handed.
- 1:07:28SPEAKER_26: And when you go and you do these sweeps like they did in New York City with the FBI and the Southern District of New York, you do sweep up people that maybe are friends of gang members.
- 1:07:38SPEAKER_26: And then it's like, okay, are you innocent until proven guilty?
- 1:07:42SPEAKER_26: Or by joining a gang, are you automatically guilty of a crime?
- 1:07:45SPEAKER_26: So there is this super gray area, but this injunction is meant to allow them to actually say, yeah, you're known as a gang affiliated person.
- 1:07:54SPEAKER_26: And so you either A can't enter or B cannot congregate.
- 1:07:58SPEAKER_26: That's why the injunction is happening.
- 1:08:01SPEAKER_26: For most people, they're like, oh, well, how do you actually stop people that have a similar ideology that haven't broken the law yet?
- 1:08:08SPEAKER_26: And so I think it's smart what they're trying to do.
- 1:08:11SPEAKER_26: They're trying to preemptively disperse these gang members.
- 1:08:15SPEAKER_26: But at the same time, it does get into like, well, how do you know who truly is a gang member?
- 1:08:20SPEAKER_26: Because a lot of the stuff um is confidential informants.
- 1:08:23SPEAKER_26: You you arrest some low-level drug dealer and you say this is what your charge is gonna be.
- 1:08:29SPEAKER_26: Yeah.
- 1:08:29SPEAKER_26: But if you give me who you're working with, who you're working for, the names of associates, now you have a confidential informant, and a lot of that stuff has to stay private, otherwise, they're gonna be killed.
- 1:08:39SPEAKER_28: Uh I want to go to the blaster line at 612-584-4565 here on the John Justice.
- 1:08:45SPEAKER_18: It's vile.
- 1:08:46SPEAKER_18: It's obviously vile.
- 1:08:47SPEAKER_18: They just near how to spell from the nearing center.
- 1:08:50SPEAKER_18: Okay.
- 1:08:51SPEAKER_18: Yeah.
- 1:08:51SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
- 1:08:51SPEAKER_21: I need to let somebody there was a lot of people doing it.
- 1:08:55SPEAKER_28: Had to go and have somebody uh go and uh and handle the uh handle the joke.
- 1:08:59SPEAKER_28: I want to get back to a couple of blasts that have rolled in on a Freedom Friday again on and off topic.
- 1:09:04SPEAKER_28: Uh comments and questions all morning long.
- 1:09:06SPEAKER_28: And this individual has a question for me.
- 1:09:08SPEAKER_15: Hi, I was just wondering if you could ask Max how much of a margin the GLP needs to beat the uh fraud that is obviously put putting the CFL over the top in many elections.
- 1:09:27SPEAKER_28: Yeah, Max.
- 1:09:29SPEAKER_28: How many more people need to go out so we can stop all the fraud that's taken place?
- 1:09:33SPEAKER_30: It's an unanswerable question because we have not uh we've not done anything uh from a statewide initiative to determine who's actually committing voter fraud, what our voter fraud uh or what our voter roles look like.
- 1:09:46SPEAKER_30: What I can just tell you is from like a margin standpoint, I think the polling on Keith Ellison has been instructive because the polling on Keith Ellison basically caps him out at 44%.
- 1:09:59SPEAKER_30: 44, 45%.
- 1:10:01SPEAKER_30: I tend to think that's Keith Ellison's ceiling because you have a guy with 99% name ID who basically is an emblem of communist uh just lawlessness in Minnesota.
- 1:10:12SPEAKER_30: And I think that 44, 45%, that is your that is your floor for how many people are hardcore vote blue no matter who in Minnesota.
- 1:10:25SPEAKER_30: And I also think that there's not like enough Republicans in Minnesota to like have this raw vote for a Republican be over 50%.
- 1:10:34SPEAKER_30: I tend to tend to think that if we win, it's gonna be with 48, 48.5%.
- 1:10:42SPEAKER_30: So I don't know about the fraud question, but what I will say is like we hopefully this election we have to pull over pull over some swing voters and moderate voters uh in the metro to win.
- 1:10:53SPEAKER_28: I want to back up for just a moment.
- 1:10:55SPEAKER_28: Um, my wife uh Melinda just texted me.
- 1:10:57SPEAKER_28: She looked up V-I-L-L-E.
- 1:10:59SPEAKER_28: Yeah.
- 1:10:59SPEAKER_28: So in French, it actually translates to city.
- 1:11:02SPEAKER_28: So she's thinking maybe they're a fancy gang.
- 1:11:05SPEAKER_27: Vilae.
- 1:11:06SPEAKER_27: Vilay.
- 1:11:07SPEAKER_27: Yeah.
- 1:11:07SPEAKER_27: Vilay.
- 1:11:08SPEAKER_27: Maybe it's V Vilay, the muddy in V.
- 1:11:10SPEAKER_30: Well, that would certainly be France is a Muslim country now.
- 1:11:12SPEAKER_28: That would yeah, and that would be in contrast to muddy.
- 1:11:16SPEAKER_28: I keep saying the muddy.
- 1:11:17SPEAKER_28: I keep putting that.
- 1:11:18SPEAKER_28: I think it's just muddy.
- 1:11:19SPEAKER_28: Muddy.
- 1:11:20SPEAKER_28: So Vilay, Vilay would certainly be to muddy.
- 1:11:24SPEAKER_28: Uh, to the previous uh blast, I know this is going to be an unpopular opinion.
- 1:11:30SPEAKER_28: Um, I just find the fraud talk in the middle of a as we start this general election.
- 1:11:37SPEAKER_28: I find the fraud talk and concern of the fraud relating to GOP turnout just completely unproductive.
- 1:11:44SPEAKER_28: There's nothing you and I can do about it.
- 1:11:46SPEAKER_28: There are individuals at the ground level whose job it is to attempt to shore up integrity.
- 1:11:53SPEAKER_28: And AK, you've talked about this many times, many times, the Republicans that are making sure they're doing everything that they can legally, that there's no um, you know, fraud taking place.
- 1:12:04SPEAKER_28: But otherwise, what I don't want to see is individuals like we were talking about earlier, they get completely turned off from the entire process because they think the fraud is too great or there is fraud and the GOP can't overcome it.
- 1:12:16SPEAKER_28: And that negativity doesn't drive enthusiasm at all.
- 1:12:20SPEAKER_28: So I'm not saying it shouldn't be a part of the conversation, but in the general, with just, you know, a handful of essentially weeks, relatively speaking, to go before uh the election in November, to be concerning yourself over how much people do how many people do we need to go and vote to overtake the fraud taking place?
- 1:12:36SPEAKER_28: Well, it's like there's no way to even quantify that.
- 1:12:38SPEAKER_28: And I just find the whole discussion unproductive.
- 1:12:40SPEAKER_28: And we can talk about it here, but I just personally don't think it's productive to the to the process of getting, you know, individuals elected.
- 1:12:46SPEAKER_30: Did you happen to see what uh James O'Keeffe was trying to do?
- 1:12:49SPEAKER_30: We're gonna get into that in just a moment.
- 1:12:50SPEAKER_12: I was gonna say, I mean the that's part of the problem, is so much of the what I would consider fraud is basically legal in Minnesota.
- 1:12:58SPEAKER_12: Right, the voting laws that we have.
- 1:13:00SPEAKER_12: So what we need to do is get people elected and advocate for better policy when it comes to our elections, but that requires that we be on the front end too big to rig.
- 1:13:11SPEAKER_12: I mean, really.
- 1:13:12SPEAKER_26: Yeah, that's the point.
- 1:13:13SPEAKER_26: So the question is what do we need to do?
- 1:13:16SPEAKER_26: The RNC specifically has kept alive and even funded even more during this election cycle, kind of looking at the the larger landscape, the election integrity effort.
- 1:13:26SPEAKER_26: They just had a win here in Minnesota in regards to witness verification of absentee balloting.
- 1:13:33SPEAKER_26: And this is what we have to do.
- 1:13:34SPEAKER_26: You have to make it too big to rig.
- 1:13:36SPEAKER_26: And what does that mean ultimately?
- 1:13:38SPEAKER_26: Max, you were 100% on point.
- 1:13:40SPEAKER_26: We can like quibble about what the percentages are.
- 1:13:42SPEAKER_26: I think if every single true red-blooded Republican showed up in Minnesota to vote, you'd have about 30% of the electorate.
- 1:13:50SPEAKER_26: If every single hardcore blue-blooded DFL showed up to the election, you'd have about 38%.
- 1:13:58SPEAKER_26: So it is true that more people openly identifiable, which means that there's a huge swath of independents.
- 1:14:04SPEAKER_26: And yes, some of those independents mostly lean to the left, but some of the independents are complete wild cards and they just don't vote.
- 1:14:12SPEAKER_26: They're lower propensity, they'll come out during basically presidential elections.
- 1:14:16SPEAKER_26: So what we have to do to combat the fraud that we know is occurring is sign up for the election integrity efforts.
- 1:14:22SPEAKER_26: There is going to be a swamp the vote style election integrity effort in Minnesota that is going to be rolled out by the Republican Party of Minnesota along with the RNC.
- 1:14:31SPEAKER_26: I imagine that even the different campaigns are going to have kind of an input into that.
- 1:14:36SPEAKER_26: So you volunteer, sign up, become someone that is actually helping put that force forward to keep those that want to commit fraud on notice by being a poll challenger, poll watcher.
- 1:14:47SPEAKER_26: I know that there's some different legal vernacular that you have to be specific about, but that's what you should do.
- 1:14:53SPEAKER_26: On top of that, you have to just understand that this is about turnout.
- 1:14:58SPEAKER_26: If we continue to be on the same trajectory that it looks like we are on, we are going to have in Minnesota a higher than average turnout.
- 1:15:07SPEAKER_26: And that bodes well because you have to ask yourself, what's then causing people to want to turn out?
- 1:15:12SPEAKER_26: For the DFL, they want to make it about Operation Metro Surge or that Trump is bad.
- 1:15:17SPEAKER_26: For the rest of normal, polite society, we want to say all the fraud is bad.
- 1:15:22SPEAKER_26: That's why we should turn out.
- 1:15:24SPEAKER_26: So I think that to that question, get involved in some way, shape, or form.
- 1:15:29SPEAKER_26: And it can be very, very simple.
- 1:15:31SPEAKER_26: There's even some questions about when can observers be there to watch even early absentee ballot boxes come in.
- 1:15:39SPEAKER_26: So, but we need bodies.
- 1:15:40SPEAKER_26: We need people to raise their hands and say, hey, I'll I'll volunteer a couple hours to help watch.
- 1:15:45SPEAKER_28: We have uh more thoughts on the Villet uh gang.
- 1:15:50SPEAKER_28: Here on the John Justice show, courtesy of the blast.
- 1:15:53SPEAKER_18: Hey John, Vil is short for Bernsville, which is the Bernsville kids.
- 1:15:58SPEAKER_18: Have a good day.
- 1:15:59SPEAKER_28: Oh, okay.
- 1:16:00SPEAKER_28: That's not nearly as much fun.
- 1:16:01SPEAKER_28: That makes sense.
- 1:16:02SPEAKER_28: That does make more sense.
- 1:16:03SPEAKER_28: It makes sense.
- 1:16:04SPEAKER_28: So it is so it is Ville.
- 1:16:05SPEAKER_28: The Ville, yeah.
- 1:16:06SPEAKER_28: Okay.
- 1:16:06SPEAKER_28: I like this guy's idea.
- 1:16:08SPEAKER_28: Here on the Blaster line.
- 1:16:12SPEAKER_11: Hello morning, crew.
- 1:16:14SPEAKER_11: Uh this is Dan from Minneapolis.
- 1:16:16SPEAKER_11: Hi, Dan.
- 1:16:17SPEAKER_11: And uh Ville is the root word of villain.
- 1:16:21SPEAKER_11: It is.
- 1:16:21SPEAKER_11: I don't know if that's got anything to do with it, but it's pretty close.
- 1:16:25SPEAKER_26: Sophisticated double entendre.
- 1:16:27SPEAKER_26: Maybe it's both.
- 1:16:29SPEAKER_26: Maybe they they had like one high IQ Somali gang individual that said, we're from Burnsville, and it is the root for villain.
- 1:16:37SPEAKER_26: So let's go with Vin.
- 1:16:38SPEAKER_28: You know what?
- 1:16:38SPEAKER_28: I'll say this much.
- 1:16:39SPEAKER_28: If there's any members of the Villet gang listening, you clearly need to leave a blast.
- 1:16:44SPEAKER_28: You clearly need to change.
- 1:16:45SPEAKER_28: Well, yeah, leave a blast to 612-584-45065.
- 1:16:50SPEAKER_28: But on top of that, a little advice, you clearly need to change your name.
- 1:16:53SPEAKER_28: Like muddy is just muddy.
- 1:16:55SPEAKER_28: I don't really give a rip.
- 1:16:56SPEAKER_28: Hold on.
- 1:16:57SPEAKER_28: How is Muddy spelled?
- 1:16:58SPEAKER_28: M-U-D-D-Y.
- 1:16:59SPEAKER_28: Okay.
- 1:17:00SPEAKER_28: Just wanted to make sure that as opposed to how else would you spell it?
- 1:17:03SPEAKER_28: Well, M U-Di word.
- 1:17:04SPEAKER_30: Having like a half-hour-long conversation about Vil, Vile.
- 1:17:08SPEAKER_30: I don't know.
- 1:17:09SPEAKER_30: Maybe it was M-H-A-D-D-I-E?
- 1:17:12SPEAKER_30: M U D Yeah, something like that.
- 1:17:17SPEAKER_28: I think that's actually Timothy Chalamagne's character's name in Dune, right?
- 1:17:21SPEAKER_28: Isn't that what a sorry?
- 1:17:22SPEAKER_28: Mudai.
- 1:17:24SPEAKER_28: Thank you.
- 1:17:24SPEAKER_28: Thank you.
- 1:17:24SPEAKER_28: Boy, man.
- 1:17:25SPEAKER_28: I thought really I was going to be out on a limb on falling back.
- 1:17:28SPEAKER_28: I've got you on that one.
- 1:17:29SPEAKER_28: Looked at Catherine's face and it was like no idea.
- 1:17:32SPEAKER_28: It's just like, what?
- 1:17:32SPEAKER_28: Movie Timothy.
- 1:17:33SPEAKER_28: Well, you know Timothy's Chalamagne.
- 1:17:35SPEAKER_12: I do.
- 1:17:35SPEAKER_12: I do.
- 1:17:35SPEAKER_12: I'm familiar.
- 1:17:36SPEAKER_12: You know the dating Kylie Jenner.
- 1:17:38SPEAKER_30: I knew you were going to say that.
- 1:17:40SPEAKER_30: I knew you were going to say, oh yeah, is that the Kardashian's boyfriend?
- 1:17:44SPEAKER_27: Yes.
- 1:17:44SPEAKER_27: Is he really dating Kylie Jenner?
- 1:17:46SPEAKER_27: Yeah.
- 1:17:46SPEAKER_27: I believe so, yeah.
- 1:17:48SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
- 1:17:48SPEAKER_12: They were going to like Knicks games together.
- 1:17:50SPEAKER_27: Dude, he can do better than that.
- 1:17:52SPEAKER_12: Oh.
- 1:17:53SPEAKER_12: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- 1:17:54SPEAKER_12: What?
- 1:17:54SPEAKER_28: He seemed a little bit.
- 1:17:56SPEAKER_28: She's attractive.
- 1:17:57SPEAKER_28: I'm not saying she's unattractive.
- 1:17:58SPEAKER_28: No, I'm just saying that she doesn't seem like the, you know, the sharpest tool on the shed on the shed.
- 1:18:03SPEAKER_28: I figured he could do somebody a little bit more sophisticated than a I need clarification, and you would know.
- 1:18:09SPEAKER_26: Which is the like almost billionaire that created their own makeup line?
- 1:18:12SPEAKER_12: Kylie Jenner.
- 1:18:13SPEAKER_26: Okay.
- 1:18:14SPEAKER_28: Okay, never mind.
- 1:18:14SPEAKER_28: All right, never mind.
- 1:18:15SPEAKER_28: She's a successful economic purity.
- 1:18:17SPEAKER_12: I mean, that was Chris Jenner's creation, was Kylie Jenner, right?
- 1:18:21SPEAKER_12: So I think she gets the credit.
- 1:18:22SPEAKER_12: But yeah, I don't know.
- 1:18:23SPEAKER_12: She's maybe got some.
- 1:18:24SPEAKER_12: All right, I'll go on the case.
- 1:18:26SPEAKER_28: That was pure ignorance on my part.
- 1:18:28SPEAKER_12: Well, what happened is do you guys want the lore?
- 1:18:30SPEAKER_12: Okay, so Kylie Jenner uh got lip filler when she was pretty young.
- 1:18:33SPEAKER_12: Yep.
- 1:18:34SPEAKER_12: And her lips blew up and people started making fun of her.
- 1:18:36SPEAKER_12: Okay.
- 1:18:36SPEAKER_12: Kylie Jenner started the lip filler.
- 1:18:38SPEAKER_21: Yeah, okay.
- 1:18:39SPEAKER_21: Okay.
- 1:18:39SPEAKER_12: And they were like, how do we spin this?
- 1:18:41SPEAKER_12: How do we make this into something we can profit off of?
- 1:18:43SPEAKER_12: Chris Jenner was like, lip kits.
- 1:18:45SPEAKER_12: We're gonna do lip liner and lipsticks, sell them together and say, lips are the new cool thing.
- 1:18:51SPEAKER_12: And it worked.
- 1:18:51SPEAKER_12: Kylie Jenner became a billionaire.
- 1:18:53SPEAKER_12: Everyone in their mother is getting a lip filler now.
- 1:18:55SPEAKER_12: I mean, her power is incredible.
- 1:18:57SPEAKER_28: It is pretty good.
- 1:18:58SPEAKER_28: I immediately thought about uh Joey from Friends Itchy Bond, lipstick for men.
- 1:19:04SPEAKER_28: Thank you for that update, by the way.
- 1:19:05SPEAKER_28: So I'll give it like I said, yeah, if that's the case and she's that successful, then then it was a wise choice for Timothy Chalamet.
- 1:19:12SPEAKER_28: I don't care about him that much.
- 1:19:13SPEAKER_28: It just I like him in Dune.
- 1:19:15SPEAKER_30: Okay.
- 1:19:16unknown: Yes.
- 1:19:16SPEAKER_30: On the topic of lip filler, and it's a Freedom Friday.
- 1:19:20SPEAKER_30: And this is no shade at anyone who does this, right?
- 1:19:23SPEAKER_30: But I am worried that this lip filler trend is making all women look similar to one another.
- 1:19:29SPEAKER_30: Like ducks.
- 1:19:30SPEAKER_28: It's faded, hasn't it?
- 1:19:31SPEAKER_28: Faded?
- 1:19:32SPEAKER_28: I thought this was like a couple of years ago.
- 1:19:34SPEAKER_12: Uh it has faded a little bit, definitely.
- 1:19:36SPEAKER_12: It's like a little bit on the downswing, but now, I mean, everyone's still getting it.
- 1:19:40SPEAKER_12: It's just less.
- 1:19:41SPEAKER_12: The look is less.
- 1:19:42SPEAKER_28: The look is less.
- 1:19:43SPEAKER_28: I don't like it.
- 1:19:43SPEAKER_28: Yeah, I don't have to.
- 1:19:44SPEAKER_28: That's what AK I've never liked.
- 1:19:46SPEAKER_12: Good lip filler, you can't tell they have lip filler, right?
- 1:19:48SPEAKER_12: So if you can tell someone has lip filler, that's a small percentage of people that have lip filler.
- 1:19:52SPEAKER_12: Most people are getting it and you can't tell.
- 1:19:54SPEAKER_12: That's good.
- 1:19:54SPEAKER_28: I think it's one or the other.
- 1:19:56SPEAKER_28: Is there anybody that's done lip filler and the the nose ring?
- 1:20:00SPEAKER_28: Is there anybody that does the septum the septum ring?
- 1:20:02SPEAKER_28: Because those things seem like they're polar opposites.
- 1:20:04SPEAKER_28: Yeah, I think they're different of the spectrum.
- 1:20:07SPEAKER_28: Yeah.
- 1:20:07SPEAKER_28: I think so as oh well.
- 1:20:09SPEAKER_26: I'm not a fan of either.
- 1:20:10SPEAKER_30: Lip filler and then BBLs, right?
- 1:20:12SPEAKER_30: Like that's a big thing.
- 1:20:13SPEAKER_26: Yeah, BBLs are starting to fade though, too.
- 1:20:15SPEAKER_26: So yeah, I don't know.
- 1:20:17SPEAKER_26: Yeah.
- 1:20:17SPEAKER_26: Brazilian butt lift.
- 1:20:19SPEAKER_26: Oh.
- 1:20:20SPEAKER_26: You get injection of buco fat into your booty.
- 1:20:23SPEAKER_26: Fat from other people.
- 1:20:24SPEAKER_26: Then you look like you're Brazilian.
- 1:20:25SPEAKER_28: Yeah, people just go with what God gave them.
- 1:20:27SPEAKER_28: Can they can we just do that, please?
- 1:20:29SPEAKER_27: I'm so like a curmudgeon old man all of a sudden Instagram.
- 1:20:31SPEAKER_27: You gotta looks max.
- 1:20:33SPEAKER_27: That's right.
- 1:20:33SPEAKER_27: Looks max.
- 1:20:35SPEAKER_27: Gotta be looks maxing.
- 1:20:35SPEAKER_26: You like you learn like bone mashing or whatever he does, he like gets his face with the mallet to make his bones like, I don't know, thinner or make his No, it's like it like flares up your cheekbones.
- 1:20:48SPEAKER_30: So you look more masculine, bro.
- 1:20:50SPEAKER_30: The from Spongebob, the handsome squidward theme.
- 1:20:54SPEAKER_30: So that's what they're trying to do.
- 1:20:55SPEAKER_28: Catherine, would a woman get offended if a man were to question whether or not they've done the lip filler?
- 1:21:05SPEAKER_28: Is that something that you that like that that a woman would would get offended by if a man were to ask, hey, did you do something to your lips?
- 1:21:14SPEAKER_28: Is that is that don't ask that.
- 1:21:15SPEAKER_28: Is that don't don't ask that?
- 1:21:17SPEAKER_12: I mean, like, no, probably not, because it's not a thing.
- 1:21:19SPEAKER_28: Now it's kind of like, you know, I mean it's too late in my case, but I just was curious.
- 1:21:24SPEAKER_28: I had it happen once.
- 1:21:25SPEAKER_28: I won't say who it was, but I could clearly tell that I was like, something's something is different.
- 1:21:32SPEAKER_28: I don't know what it was.
- 1:21:34SPEAKER_28: And it was very light.
- 1:21:35SPEAKER_28: They did it very lightly, but it was just enough to where I noticed because I work with this person a lot.
- 1:21:41SPEAKER_28: And I was like, hey, and first they dodged the question and they finally cop to it.
- 1:21:45SPEAKER_28: I thought that makes sense.
- 1:21:46SPEAKER_28: I'm not crazy.
- 1:21:47SPEAKER_28: Did a bee sting in your mouth?
- 1:21:48SPEAKER_28: Yeah.
- 1:21:49SPEAKER_12: Blank it rule is like, you know, just don't say anything.
- 1:21:52SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I probably but uh I feel like yeah, not offensive, really.
- 1:21:55SPEAKER_12: Okay.
- 1:21:56SPEAKER_28: I just popular now.
- 1:21:57SPEAKER_28: It was a while ago, by the way.
- 1:21:58SPEAKER_28: It was a couple of years.
- 1:21:59SPEAKER_30: That's my rule of thumb.
- 1:22:00SPEAKER_30: Just don't say anything ever.
- 1:22:04SPEAKER_26: I've come to find out that Botox is very popular with millennial women, apparently, because they start getting wrinkles or whatever.
- 1:22:12SPEAKER_26: And uh even out our way in in Max's district, there's a handful of places that apparently women get Botox on a regular basis, which is I didn't know.
- 1:22:21SPEAKER_12: Out our way?
- 1:22:22SPEAKER_12: You think people like in rural areas weren't getting Botox?
- 1:22:25SPEAKER_26: I guess that surprised me.
- 1:22:26SPEAKER_26: Yes, yeah.
- 1:22:27SPEAKER_26: I figured, you know, we're a little bit more natural, less, less in with the Joneses.
- 1:22:32SPEAKER_26: All right.
- 1:22:32SPEAKER_26: We're not we're not metropolitan, but uh yeah, shout out to like Lindstrom and Chisago Lakes area.
- 1:22:37SPEAKER_26: Apparently, Botox happens.
- 1:22:39SPEAKER_28: It's a it's a bur it's a burgeoning industry in that uh in that in that in that area, huh?
- 1:22:43SPEAKER_28: Apparently it is.
- 1:22:44SPEAKER_28: All right.
- 1:22:44SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I just turned 30, like, so now I'm kind of deciding.
- 1:22:47SPEAKER_12: Do I need to start getting Botox?
- 1:22:48SPEAKER_12: They call it preventative.
- 1:22:49SPEAKER_27: No, no, don't ever no.
- 1:22:51SPEAKER_27: Don't get any Botox.
- 1:22:53SPEAKER_27: No.
- 1:22:53SPEAKER_12: What if couldn't you?
- 1:22:55SPEAKER_30: How do you know that I don't have Botox?
- 1:22:56SPEAKER_30: Just I just because I know you don't have Botox.
- 1:22:59SPEAKER_27: You don't have Botox.
- 1:23:00SPEAKER_27: None of you have Botox.
- 1:23:02SPEAKER_27: Maybe Isaac, but Isaac, yeah, Isaac.
- 1:23:04SPEAKER_23: It's a solution for migraines.
- 1:23:05SPEAKER_23: Okay.
- 1:23:06SPEAKER_27: I have a big I have heard that.
- 1:23:08SPEAKER_27: Yeah, dual purpose, right?
- 1:23:09SPEAKER_23: Lit dual purpose.
- 1:23:10SPEAKER_27: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:23:10SPEAKER_27: I know, I sort of.
- 1:23:13SPEAKER_28: Just no, don't do it.
- 1:23:14SPEAKER_28: It annoys me more when men do Botox than it does women.
- 1:23:17SPEAKER_28: That just to me is like, you know, Gary Chandling when he was doing the Botox.
- 1:23:21SPEAKER_28: He just looked they look utterly ridiculous.
- 1:23:23SPEAKER_12: Are focusing on the tiniest, tiniest, tiniest percentage.
- 1:23:25SPEAKER_12: Because if you do Botox correctly, you can't notice.
- 1:23:28SPEAKER_28: There is no correct way to do it.
- 1:23:28SPEAKER_28: I'm just kidding.
- 1:23:29SPEAKER_26: You can kind of notice because you can kind of notice because you're like, hey, either you have a portrait of yourself in your attic, which the shout out to whatever that reference or that movie is of a witch, um, or you're using Botox because you're gonna have wrinkles.
- 1:23:43SPEAKER_26: Like, like that's what happens to your body.
- 1:23:44SPEAKER_26: You can't age gracefully, people.
- 1:23:47SPEAKER_26: So if you're 50 and you have no wrinkles, that's the point of Botox.
- 1:23:49SPEAKER_26: Maybe you're a genetic just anomaly and whatever, or you're a witch, or you're using Botox.
- 1:23:56SPEAKER_26: Okay, those are your options.
- 1:23:57SPEAKER_12: No, the point of Botox is to age gracefully because the fear is now like what if I turn 40 and everyone else was getting Botox for 10 years and I look like a wrinkly wish.
- 1:24:06SPEAKER_28: You look like a normal human being.
- 1:24:09SPEAKER_28: And they all look like a bunch of wax figures that can't smile because their face is stuck because they've done all the Botox.
- 1:24:17SPEAKER_28: This is what I would look like if I was doing the show.
- 1:24:19SPEAKER_28: We look like this.
- 1:24:20SPEAKER_28: It's a John Justice show presented by American Experiment, and I can't move my face because I did too much damn Botox.
- 1:24:26SPEAKER_28: Let's get back to the blaster line.
- 1:24:27SPEAKER_30: That's a hilarious face.
- 1:24:29SPEAKER_30: That was a great face.
- 1:24:30SPEAKER_30: I've never seen that one.
- 1:24:31SPEAKER_28: 612-584-45065.
- 1:24:34SPEAKER_28: You're welcome to those.
- 1:24:39SPEAKER_07: Every time a male comes near a Kardashian, they go crazy and they go off the rail.
- 1:24:45SPEAKER_28: So he thinks that uh that he's that he's toast because he's uh out with a shout out to Kardashian.
- 1:24:50SPEAKER_26: Shout out to Lamar Odom and Kanye.
- 1:24:52SPEAKER_12: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:24:53SPEAKER_26: And well, I guess Travis Barker hasn't really had went off the deep end.
- 1:24:58SPEAKER_12: Oh, he like almost killed some people at his concert.
- 1:25:00SPEAKER_26: Oh, did he?
- 1:25:01SPEAKER_26: Okay, well, I hate it with an accident.
- 1:25:04SPEAKER_12: He caused a mosh pit mob and some people died.
- 1:25:06SPEAKER_30: He's been doing that since the 90s.
- 1:25:07SPEAKER_30: So maybe Chris's crew.
- 1:25:10SPEAKER_28: It's only because he's all huffed up on Botox.
- 1:25:11SPEAKER_28: Not Travis Scott.
- 1:25:12SPEAKER_28: Makes them all angry.
- 1:25:13SPEAKER_30: Travis Barker, the drummer.
- 1:25:15SPEAKER_30: The drummer.
- 1:25:15SPEAKER_28: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:25:16SPEAKER_12: Sorry.
- 1:25:16SPEAKER_12: Travis Scott is a different exploit.
- 1:25:18SPEAKER_28: Yeah, and he's a good one.
- 1:25:18SPEAKER_12: Baby Danny.
- 1:25:19SPEAKER_28: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:25:20SPEAKER_12: Travis Barker.
- 1:25:20SPEAKER_12: Yeah, oh no, he, I think he's probably a good one.
- 1:25:22SPEAKER_28: You guys just for you know we're live, right?
- 1:25:24SPEAKER_27: You know that we're ashianing.
- 1:25:26SPEAKER_27: You know that we're the ash remote screen.
- 1:25:28SPEAKER_28: I can see the number of people that are watching and listening right now, and I'm like, you're out.
- 1:25:34SPEAKER_28: Suddenly they've just gone off on their own tangent.
- 1:25:36SPEAKER_28: Yes.
- 1:25:36SPEAKER_28: Um, how about that fraud in Minnesota?
- 1:25:39SPEAKER_28: From uh Isaac's Bathhouse Emporium, yes.
- 1:25:42SPEAKER_28: Shout out Chris Humphreys.
- 1:25:43SPEAKER_28: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:25:44SPEAKER_28: Minnesota's own.
- 1:25:45SPEAKER_26: But he kind of like broke away, and I think his life is relatively normal.
- 1:25:49SPEAKER_26: It's not famous.
- 1:25:50SPEAKER_28: All right, let's get back to the uh to the blaster line at 612-584-4565, and you can uh send those complaints to Katherine Johnson at americanexperiment.org.
- 1:26:00SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 1:26:01SPEAKER_03: Two things the lip fillers and the big baggy jeans are the closest trends for women lately.
- 1:26:08SPEAKER_03: And second of all, I'm the voter ID drive thing.
- 1:26:11SPEAKER_03: So we have such crazy voter ID lives, it's gonna be really hard to win to be able to change the crazy voter ID lives.
- 1:26:20SPEAKER_03: Do we have enough to make it big to rig with all this crazy being able to vote for eight people and all that stuff?
- 1:26:26SPEAKER_03: Sure, you can.
- 1:26:26SPEAKER_03: Every third of Friday takes place.
- 1:26:28SPEAKER_28: Yeah, we'll get into more of this in in just a moment, but you absolutely can.
- 1:26:30SPEAKER_28: When you look at the percentage of individuals that get out to vote, when you look at the people and the number of individuals that go to vote, primaries or general elections, uh, there are there are plenty of individuals out there if you can get them to vote to overcome what what we've been talking about.
- 1:26:47SPEAKER_28: Uh, the the question is, how do you get those people out to vote?
- 1:26:49SPEAKER_28: But there are plenty of voters out there you can go in and uh and tap into.
- 1:26:53SPEAKER_28: So I wanna I want to continue on this and get to the James O'Keefe video because I want everybody's thoughts here on a Freedom uh Friday.
- 1:27:00SPEAKER_28: Katherine Johnson, uh Max Reimer, and uh AK Kamara, uh Isaac is uh producing the show this morning.
- 1:27:06SPEAKER_28: I do want to take a moment, though, and just mentioned a new sponsor to the show, uh Mini Leaf and Minileaf.com.
- 1:27:12SPEAKER_28: Thank you so much for hopping uh on board.
- 1:27:14SPEAKER_28: If you're interested in advertising, by the way, you can email me john.justice at americanexperiment.org, and I will get you hooked up with the proper uh individuals.
- 1:27:22SPEAKER_28: Uh but Eric and his wife run uh Mini Leaf uh locally.
- 1:27:27SPEAKER_28: Fantastic products.
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- 1:27:30SPEAKER_28: They get me a good night's sleep every night, the fun gummies, the spooky uh mini leaf uh tonics as well, and the triple diamond pain cream, all available at uh M-I-N-N-E-L-E-A-F dot com.
- 1:27:42SPEAKER_28: And as I mentioned earlier, uh Mini Leafs actually gonna be out at the fights in Canterbury Park uh tomorrow night.
- 1:27:48SPEAKER_28: Um, so head on by if you're heading out to the fights at Canterbury Park.
- 1:27:52SPEAKER_28: Of the group here, AK would be the one I think we'd be going to uh to the fight.
- 1:27:56SPEAKER_28: You ever go to the fights, AK?
- 1:27:57SPEAKER_28: Uh no.
- 1:27:58SPEAKER_26: Okay.
- 1:27:58SPEAKER_26: I watch anime.
- 1:27:59SPEAKER_26: Oh.
- 1:28:00SPEAKER_26: Okay.
- 1:28:01SPEAKER_26: Catherine, yes.
- 1:28:02SPEAKER_12: I have been to many a local boxing match.
- 1:28:04SPEAKER_12: Oh, yeah.
- 1:28:04SPEAKER_12: In case anyone was wondering, just to break some stereotypes.
- 1:28:08SPEAKER_27: Truly a wild card.
- 1:28:09SPEAKER_12: My brother manages a couple of local boxers, and he has fighters sometimes in these, yeah, the ignite fights.
- 1:28:15SPEAKER_12: I've never been to Canterbury, but I've been to like the Armory and a lot of different places.
- 1:28:19SPEAKER_12: Um they're really fun, actually.
- 1:28:21SPEAKER_12: The crowd, very diverse.
- 1:28:23SPEAKER_12: I mean, just so interesting.
- 1:28:25SPEAKER_12: Like, you know, I don't know.
- 1:28:27SPEAKER_12: All kinds of people you would never expect to see.
- 1:28:29SPEAKER_12: And it's fascinating, and the fighters are fun.
- 1:28:31SPEAKER_12: I I I love them.
- 1:28:32SPEAKER_30: I've seen a couple fights too.
- 1:28:34SPEAKER_30: Mario?
- 1:28:34SPEAKER_30: Uh in Minneapolis.
- 1:28:36SPEAKER_30: Okay.
- 1:28:37SPEAKER_28: Between between Muddy and them and and uh the and the uh the Villet.
- 1:28:43SPEAKER_28: The Villet.
- 1:28:44SPEAKER_28: The Villet.
- 1:28:44SPEAKER_28: We're just gonna call them that.
- 1:28:45SPEAKER_28: It is the Ignite of Fights 114, Saturday night, Canterbury Park.
- 1:28:49SPEAKER_28: Uh Mini Leaf will be there.
- 1:28:50SPEAKER_28: Be sure to stop by the booth.
- 1:28:51SPEAKER_28: Say hi to Eric for me when you're there.
- 1:28:53SPEAKER_28: He loves to uh hear from uh friends of the show, and head on over to M-I-N-N-E-L-E-A-F.com and get yourself some of the fantastic products available there.
- 1:29:02SPEAKER_28: All right, um, let's go here.
- 1:29:04SPEAKER_28: Uh and thank you to everybody who has shared this with me because uh everybody has shared it with me.
- 1:29:09SPEAKER_28: Uh James O'Keefe did an undercover operation um to expose Minnesota's corrupt vouching system.
- 1:29:17SPEAKER_28: According to the law, one registered Minnesota voter can vouch up to eight persons, and those eight people do not need an ID.
- 1:29:25SPEAKER_28: Uh, here is um uh about a minute 40 of the video of James O'Keefe going to the polling location uh where he's um so he's got an individual who's dressed up as a Muslim woman.
- 1:29:39SPEAKER_28: Cam Higbee.
- 1:29:39SPEAKER_28: And then that's Cam Higbee, and then he was dressed up as how would you describe how uh as as a sheik.
- 1:29:46SPEAKER_28: Just as a sheikh.
- 1:29:46SPEAKER_28: Okay, just as a bit of the uh audio from the video that's been making the rounds and has gone viral at this point.
- 1:29:55SPEAKER_25: I'm vouching for them.
- 1:29:56SPEAKER_25: The name is really important.
- 1:29:58SPEAKER_25: The question um about the vouching program, yeah.
- 1:30:01SPEAKER_25: Vouching as okay.
- 1:30:05SPEAKER_25: That's okay, that's fine.
- 1:30:06SPEAKER_25: Uh then can I bring uh five more?
- 1:30:09SPEAKER_25: Um that's a good thing to go back and read it.
- 1:30:16SPEAKER_25: Uh and uh Muhammad.
- 1:30:19SPEAKER_25: In Minnesota, you can show up on election day and vouch for up to eight unregistered voters.
- 1:30:25SPEAKER_25: Members of the Justice League dressed up in traditional Muslim attire, including a transgender wearing a burqa and put this vouching law to an extreme test on primary day, August 11th.
- 1:30:44SPEAKER_25: The vouching.
- 1:30:49SPEAKER_25: How does that work?
- 1:30:51SPEAKER_25: Well, if you're all in the same pre-stage, if you are already registered with your QR, then you you can vouch for them as ID person.
- 1:31:00SPEAKER_25: Oh, good.
- 1:31:00SPEAKER_25: She says to me, I say they do not need ID.
- 1:31:03SPEAKER_25: She says, You are the ID.
- 1:31:04SPEAKER_25: He is the ID.
- 1:31:05SPEAKER_25: I am the ID.
- 1:31:06SPEAKER_25: And no ID needed, I just vouch for that.
- 1:31:08SPEAKER_25: But you're the ID.
- 1:31:09SPEAKER_25: I am the ID.
- 1:31:10SPEAKER_25: That's good.
- 1:31:10SPEAKER_25: How many people uh may I vouch for?
- 1:31:13SPEAKER_25: Uh eight.
- 1:31:15SPEAKER_25: I can vouch for eight people.
- 1:31:18SPEAKER_25: Eight people, no ID.
- 1:31:19SPEAKER_25: We come right black.
- 1:31:20SPEAKER_25: Thank you.
- 1:31:21SPEAKER_25: Most poll workers we visited were willing to let us vouch with no questions asked, even when presented with the most absurd situation imaginable.
- 1:31:29SPEAKER_25: While other poll workers did take issue with our investigation, revealing their awareness that something about this vouching system is deeply flawed or wrong.
- 1:31:38SPEAKER_28: Yet for some reason, they don't want us to Okay, so correct me if I'm wrong on this.
- 1:31:46SPEAKER_28: Because this James O'Keefe video reminds me a lot of what happened with Nick Shirley.
- 1:31:52SPEAKER_28: Credit to both of them.
- 1:31:53SPEAKER_28: But this isn't necessarily the exposure of something that we weren't already completely aware of.
- 1:31:59SPEAKER_28: This is basically just proof of concept of the concern that we've had over vouching for individuals.
- 1:32:08SPEAKER_28: And I only say that, okay, because I don't want anybody, please do not mistake my sort of clarification on what's actually taking place here as me not being appreciative or me not or me saying this isn't a big deal.
- 1:32:23SPEAKER_28: Because a lot of people out there are going, oh my gosh, I can't believe this.
- 1:32:26SPEAKER_28: What is going on?
- 1:32:27SPEAKER_28: How, you know, and they're everybody's freaking out.
- 1:32:29SPEAKER_28: And I'm kind of like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on and time out flag on the field.
- 1:32:32SPEAKER_28: This is something that's legal here in Minnesota.
- 1:32:34SPEAKER_28: He's just showing how this particular vouching circumstance works out.
- 1:32:39SPEAKER_28: And let me add one more thing and then I'll hand it over to our guests this morning, uh, A.K.
- 1:32:43SPEAKER_28: Kamara, Max Reimer, and uh Catherine Johnson.
- 1:32:46SPEAKER_28: So a couple of comments under this initial video.
- 1:32:48SPEAKER_28: Somebody had said you can make up just eight names, vouch for them, vote, and then go to the next precinct, make up eight more names, voucher them, and vote ad nauseum.
- 1:32:57SPEAKER_28: And then somebody responded to that saying, you can't just make up the names.
- 1:33:00SPEAKER_28: They need to be registered voters, you need to verify the name and the address.
- 1:33:04SPEAKER_28: Um, what was filmed was confirming that the vouching law exists.
- 1:33:08SPEAKER_28: Um, but the the idea that they can go from precinct to precinct to precinct may not necessarily be true.
- 1:33:14SPEAKER_28: So uh I hand it over to you guys.
- 1:33:16SPEAKER_28: Whoever wants to uh start, aka we'll start with you.
- 1:33:19SPEAKER_28: Yeah, I'll take it for credit.
- 1:33:20SPEAKER_28: Is that a is that assessment correct on this?
- 1:33:22SPEAKER_28: I mean, this isn't again anything new.
- 1:33:23SPEAKER_28: He's just basically demonstrating how this process works.
- 1:33:26SPEAKER_26: So the vouching system is meant to say if you don't have any other proof of residency, you can vouch for up eight people.
- 1:33:35SPEAKER_26: And the idea was okay, I know my neighbors, I clearly see that they live there.
- 1:33:40SPEAKER_26: So I'm going to come and vouch for them if I am the registered voter.
- 1:33:44SPEAKER_26: And that's the way that it's supposed to work.
- 1:33:46SPEAKER_26: You can't vote for them.
- 1:33:47SPEAKER_26: You just are saying they don't have proof of residency at all.
- 1:33:51SPEAKER_26: They don't have utility bill, they don't have anything to show where they live.
- 1:33:55SPEAKER_26: I am vouching for them.
- 1:33:56SPEAKER_26: Now, could you do that to multiple precincts, multiple locations?
- 1:34:00SPEAKER_26: Yeah, but that's already illegal because you can only vouch for the area that you are registered to vote, and you can only vouch for up to eight people.
- 1:34:07SPEAKER_26: Again, the the way that this is abused and what we've alleged for since I became a Republican in 2006 in Minnesota is that people are just going multiple places and vouching all over for people that don't live there at all.
- 1:34:24SPEAKER_26: You still technically are breaking the law if you vote in an area that you don't live, but that's what the vouching is for, and that's where we often say this is a ridiculous voter registration tool.
- 1:34:36SPEAKER_26: And the way that it initially was made is like if you have neighbors that you know super, super well, and I think it's an absurdity.
- 1:34:44SPEAKER_26: And James O'Keefe is just showing how absurd it really is in practice.
- 1:34:48SPEAKER_26: Uh, and he actually did this before back in 2016.
- 1:34:52SPEAKER_26: Him and Laura Loomer, or maybe 2018, came to Minnesota.
- 1:34:56SPEAKER_26: It's 2018, and they they like did the same exact thing.
- 1:34:59SPEAKER_26: Um, it's just that it kind of leaves people's mindset, and I think it should just make people you know hyper-vigilant to do what I said earlier.
- 1:35:07SPEAKER_26: Get involved with election integrity efforts.
- 1:35:10SPEAKER_26: Because if there's a bunch of people that are watching, there's gonna be far less likelihood that people are gonna openly break the law.
- 1:35:16SPEAKER_26: They're breaking the law.
- 1:35:18SPEAKER_26: Make no mistake, it's just are they gonna be prosecuted and are they gonna be caught?
- 1:35:21SPEAKER_26: But if you have a bunch of eyes out there, it makes that less likely.
- 1:35:25SPEAKER_30: Well, keep in mind, too.
- 1:35:26SPEAKER_30: So when you vouch for those eight people, what you're doing, in effect, is when you vote on election day, you become a registered voter, right?
- 1:35:35SPEAKER_30: So when you vouch for eight people, one of those eight people, if they happen to be real, can vouch for another eight people and another eight people.
- 1:35:42SPEAKER_30: And there's this amplification process.
- 1:35:45SPEAKER_30: I don't think we want to discount what James O'Keefe is doing here because what James O'Keefe is doing, even though John, you're right, this is the law of the land, this is legal, what the what Minnesota statute allows for.
- 1:35:59SPEAKER_30: But the important part is the reason you're having so many people message you is because so many Minnesotans don't realize that it's gotten this bad.
- 1:36:07SPEAKER_30: And then, oh, by the way, we have a federal department of justice who is looking for every angle that they can tackle to make Minnesota's elections more secure.
- 1:36:16SPEAKER_30: When I see content get put out this way, or when it's covered on Fox News, I know that that's getting in front of the president to actually like take this seriously because yeah, our our law allows for it, but we all know it's broken.
- 1:36:31SPEAKER_30: We all know that it's a rigged game.
- 1:36:33SPEAKER_28: Well, and and again, to my point before, not to diminish, because I completely agree with you.
- 1:36:37SPEAKER_28: I think this is this is when conservatives do a good job of utilizing different platforms in order to get the message out on a particular issue.
- 1:36:47SPEAKER_28: You have shows like mine uh that talk about these issues.
- 1:36:50SPEAKER_28: We've been talking about the vouching situation now for, you know, forever.
- 1:36:55SPEAKER_28: I mean, since it's been since it's been legal.
- 1:36:57SPEAKER_28: Um, but not everybody again listens to this show or is aware.
- 1:37:00SPEAKER_28: And then you have an individual like James O'Keefe going out there and giving you the visual aid and informing a lot of individuals of it.
- 1:37:06SPEAKER_28: I guess the only point that I wanted to add on that, and I'm curious to get uh Catherine Johnson's um uh thoughts on it, is that I see a lot of people out there making the mistake of saying this is illegal, and it's not.
- 1:37:16SPEAKER_28: This is legal here in Minnesota.
- 1:37:18SPEAKER_28: It's not right anymore than ballot harvesting is right, but ballot harvesting in a lot of areas of the country is also legal.
- 1:37:25SPEAKER_28: These are things that we need to undo when we get to individuals into power that understand that this is not the way that we need to be going and conducting our elections.
- 1:37:33SPEAKER_28: And that's really the only point that I wanted to make is the individuals out there that thought that he was exposing some major unlawful act in in going on in the in the in the polls, and that just simply isn't the isn't the case.
- 1:37:45SPEAKER_12: Yeah, right.
- 1:37:45SPEAKER_12: It is legal and it's patently absurd.
- 1:37:48SPEAKER_12: But the other thing is just to take it to the next step, I think what someone like Steve Simon would say in response to this video is well, we check these things after the fact.
- 1:37:57SPEAKER_12: Um, they always say that about, you know, abnormalities, or what if someone went and voted in two different locations, which, you know, theoretically shouldn't be possible, but you can think of many situations where it might be possible.
- 1:38:06SPEAKER_12: Like if you have a student ID and you're in college and you also have an ID, you know, at your home address, you could vote both places.
- 1:38:13SPEAKER_12: Who's gonna catch it?
- 1:38:14SPEAKER_12: Well, they claim that they catch it after the fact, like months after the election.
- 1:38:19SPEAKER_12: So then what are they?
- 1:38:20SPEAKER_12: If something there really were enough abnormalities to change the outcome of the election, what are they going to do at that point?
- 1:38:26SPEAKER_12: Right?
- 1:38:26SPEAKER_12: Go back and say, just kidding, there were actually so many abnormalities.
- 1:38:30SPEAKER_12: I don't think so, especially when the DFL has held power in Minnesota for so long.
- 1:38:34SPEAKER_12: It's Steve Simon in office.
- 1:38:36SPEAKER_12: What is he gonna do?
- 1:38:37SPEAKER_12: Take back the wins that his own party gets?
- 1:38:39SPEAKER_12: Absolutely not.
- 1:38:40SPEAKER_12: So just taking it to the next step, the response from Steve Simon would still be inadequate.
- 1:38:44SPEAKER_30: And stuff like this, this is why election integrity is a burning issue, the number one issue for so many people, is because when you when you say stuff like that, well, after the fact, we're gonna audit and certify the election.
- 1:38:59SPEAKER_30: Well, this is the problem because we know that no matter what happens, you still have organizations that are calling elections, you still have narratives that are set about who won an election.
- 1:39:10SPEAKER_30: When you have stuff like this where Steve Simons says, Yeah, we'll go back and take a look at that after the votes have already been counted, or when you have certain jurisdictions or states say that we're gonna allow mail-in ballots to come in for two weeks after an election, it's like we know that this is the margin where games are played and people find ballots.
- 1:39:31SPEAKER_30: And the other issue that I don't know how someone like James O'Keefe would expose this because in order to expose it, it means that you're committing your actual voter fraud.
- 1:39:41SPEAKER_30: But you can be a ballot agent in Minnesota for up to three other people, meaning that you can physically turn in an early vote ballot on behalf of somebody you already know doing that thing with my fingers.
- 1:39:54SPEAKER_30: So that's another problem that we're gonna need to address.
- 1:39:57SPEAKER_30: That you can just go and I can there and the enforcement mechanism is really lax on this, right?
- 1:40:04SPEAKER_30: So I can go and turn in AK and all of his family members filled out ballots because I have a pre-existing relationship with AK.
- 1:40:11SPEAKER_30: Well, literally, I can't because I'm an elected official.
- 1:40:14SPEAKER_30: But AK could do it for me.
- 1:40:16SPEAKER_30: Let's clear that up.
- 1:40:17SPEAKER_30: Um but that's another problem, too, where you can't have voter fraud when there is no enforcement mechanism in Minnesota against voter fraud.
- 1:40:28SPEAKER_30: Uh I well, there is on paper, but like we don't we are not curious enough about voter fraud in Minnesota, and the only way that changes is if we get a Republican trifecta.
- 1:40:39SPEAKER_28: Well, along those lines, let's go back to the uh blaster line uh this morning here on the John Justice show presented by American uh Experiment with our in-studio guests this morning.
- 1:40:48SPEAKER_05: To believe you can outbolt election fraud is absurd.
- 1:40:53SPEAKER_28: Okay, before she continues on this, because I don't want to wipe out too hard.
- 1:40:56SPEAKER_28: I just want to say up front, it's not absurd.
- 1:40:59SPEAKER_28: Look at the last election.
- 1:41:00SPEAKER_28: Republicans won, and so did the president.
- 1:41:03SPEAKER_28: Look at the election here.
- 1:41:04SPEAKER_28: We had the tiority in the House, and the DFL only had uh, you know, just a few seats advantage of it.
- 1:41:13SPEAKER_28: So I I understand your concern.
- 1:41:17SPEAKER_28: I agree and I echo your concern, but to make a statement like you can't you can't do this, it makes no logical sense when you consider the outcome of recent elections.
- 1:41:27SPEAKER_05: Unless dead people vote, illegals vote, and people vote multiple times.
- 1:41:33SPEAKER_05: That's not the problem.
- 1:41:34SPEAKER_05: The problem is the minion voting machine, they are pre-programmed with vote, and it was proven with the Haldeman report back in 2022.
- 1:41:48SPEAKER_05: He's specifically fine.
- 1:41:50SPEAKER_05: There's no such thing as reaching in the computer system.
- 1:41:55SPEAKER_05: This is done willfully.
- 1:41:58SPEAKER_28: Okay, so I guess to that I go, okay, so what are you gonna do about it?
- 1:42:02SPEAKER_28: I mean, what are we supposed to do?
- 1:42:05SPEAKER_28: What are we supposed to do about that?
- 1:42:06SPEAKER_28: I mean, it there are plenty of individuals out there who are looking and have been looking to address those issues and have been now for for years.
- 1:42:14SPEAKER_28: So again, I I'd be curious what the ultimate point was.
- 1:42:18SPEAKER_28: Okay, so you believe that there's fraud going on and we can't go and outvote election fraud.
- 1:42:24SPEAKER_28: So you're not just not gonna vote?
- 1:42:26SPEAKER_28: I just don't understand that that mentality.
- 1:42:28SPEAKER_30: The last time I looked, it was um like four or five counties in Minnesota use dominion voting machines, and hennepin and ramsey counties are not the where you would assume a lot of the fraud or vote switching is taking place.
- 1:42:41SPEAKER_30: Do not even use the machines that you're talking about.
- 1:42:44SPEAKER_30: Here's the deal, right?
- 1:42:45SPEAKER_30: And I'm gonna I'm gonna speak to all of you who are listening about what our chances are in November.
- 1:42:50SPEAKER_30: Donald Trump got 1,519,000 votes in Minnesota in 2024, the most a Republican has ever gotten in this state by far.
- 1:43:01SPEAKER_30: I I will put my personal rep, I will never come back on the show again if we get 1.519 votes.
- 1:43:09SPEAKER_30: If Lisa Damath gets 1.5 million, votes in this general election and does not win, I will uh I'll shave my head, right?
- 1:43:19SPEAKER_30: Like that is how confident I am.
- 1:43:21SPEAKER_30: If you have that level of turnout in a mid in a midterm election, there ain't no amount of fraud, there ain't no amount of anything that's gonna overcome an amount like that, I don't think, in Minnesota.
- 1:43:33SPEAKER_30: I could be wrong.
- 1:43:33SPEAKER_30: I'm not even looking at historical data.
- 1:43:35SPEAKER_30: I just feel like if you have presidential level turnout for Republicans in Minnesota, you will win a general election.
- 1:43:41SPEAKER_28: There's a lot of uh, and this was actually, Max, I'm glad you brought that up on a Freedom Friday here on the show.
- 1:43:46SPEAKER_28: We have Catherine Johnson and A.K.
- 1:43:47SPEAKER_28: Kamara with us because this was going to be my next uh question for the group, and we can ask, and I'll ask it to AK and Catherine.
- 1:43:54SPEAKER_28: We're gonna play those uh Peggy Flanagan, um, the national news media interview uh clips here in in just a moment.
- 1:44:01SPEAKER_28: And I want to preface before I throw it to the other Freedom Friday guests of sort of their just a bit of their thoughts, your guys' thoughts post uh primary and where we're at heading into the uh into the general.
- 1:44:12SPEAKER_28: Um, because I've seen some people do this online and selective hearing, you kind of hear what you want to hear.
- 1:44:16SPEAKER_28: Nobody, nobody on this show this morning has said that it's going to be a slam dunk for any GOP candidate.
- 1:44:22SPEAKER_28: No.
- 1:44:23SPEAKER_28: I don't believe that it's going to be a slam dunk for any candidate.
- 1:44:26SPEAKER_28: Just because you're optimistic doesn't mean that one, you're saying it's going to be a walkaway win for the GOP slate of candidates, or two, that it isn't going to be a uh a difficult road ahead to secure those victories.
- 1:44:39SPEAKER_28: It just means you have optimism based off of the slate of candidates, and that's where I'm at.
- 1:44:44SPEAKER_28: For me, this slate of candidates provides the GOP the best opportunity that I have seen in the 10 years that I have been here in Minnesota for the GOP to win coming up this election uh cycle.
- 1:44:56SPEAKER_28: So I just wanted to clear that.
- 1:44:57SPEAKER_28: Nobody is saying it's a slam dunk for anybody.
- 1:44:59SPEAKER_28: And Katherine Johnson, uh post uh primary day, um, how are how are how are your feelings right now?
- 1:45:06SPEAKER_12: Uh feeling good.
- 1:45:07SPEAKER_12: I think, yeah, to your point, there's still a lot of things working against Republicans.
- 1:45:11SPEAKER_12: I mean, Trump being in office, of course, his midterm naturally is going to swing to favor Democrats.
- 1:45:17SPEAKER_12: Also, his favorability ratings are quite low at the current moment.
- 1:45:21SPEAKER_12: So I think these things are national trends that are gonna work against our candidates no matter what.
- 1:45:26SPEAKER_12: But on the other hand, Minnesota is in a pretty unique situation with having um our governor drop out of the race because of a fraud scandal, um, and having now really, really solid candidates on the right running.
- 1:45:38SPEAKER_12: So I think, yeah, you have to take those things into consideration.
- 1:45:41SPEAKER_12: Ton of headwinds against us, but that doesn't mean that we don't at least have a chance because of this extremely unique situation we have in Minnesota, where I think a lot of people did wake up and realize that our current leadership was not doing well.
- 1:45:55SPEAKER_12: One other thing is even if we don't win our senator or our governor, having strong candidates at the top of the ticket helps everyone down ballot.
- 1:46:03SPEAKER_12: There are a ton of swing districts.
- 1:46:05SPEAKER_12: Mac Max can speak to this better than I can.
- 1:46:07SPEAKER_12: There are many swing districts in Minnesota where these elections are won on 13 votes in more heads, say.
- 1:46:13SPEAKER_12: That's what the trifecta was won by, I believe, right?
- 1:46:15SPEAKER_12: So when we have strong candidates that people want to turn out and vote for at the top of the ticket, it helps us when it comes to the legislature.
- 1:46:21SPEAKER_12: And if we can continue to stop some of the stuff that Democrats are doing, that is a plus no matter what, even if we can't get with the whole state voting a representative in the Senate.
- 1:46:30SPEAKER_26: So I developed an analogy and I'm going to unveil it to everyone here.
- 1:46:35SPEAKER_26: Imagine that this election is like trying to cook a gourmet meal that is going to be a Michelin star level meal.
- 1:46:44SPEAKER_26: First, you have to get all of the good ingredients, right?
- 1:46:47SPEAKER_26: You have to pick out the best ingredients available.
- 1:46:50SPEAKER_26: So prior, you know, prior to the primary, you had the opportunity to go and pick your ingredients.
- 1:46:55SPEAKER_26: And kind of everything had been set up that really amazing ingredients were available.
- 1:47:01SPEAKER_26: By the primary win, the candidates that were able to organize the best, raise the most money, and turn out the vote in the highest capacity won.
- 1:47:10SPEAKER_26: So we have now picked the greatest ingredients.
- 1:47:12SPEAKER_26: So we are able to now proceed to how do you cook that delicious meal?
- 1:47:17SPEAKER_26: Now we could drop the ball, turn up the heat too high, and ruin the entire meal.
- 1:47:22SPEAKER_26: We have all the great ingredients.
- 1:47:23SPEAKER_26: That's what we have to focus on is how do we actually put the work in to actually cook these amazing ingredients and turn it into this delicious meal.
- 1:47:32SPEAKER_26: That's what's ahead of us.
- 1:47:33SPEAKER_26: But it's going to be hard to do because you have to have all of the expertise.
- 1:47:38SPEAKER_26: You're going to have to make sure that you have a statewide turnout machine.
- 1:47:42SPEAKER_26: And I think one of the things that I 100% miscalculated and I didn't understand until actually election night when I was talking to some people, Lisa Damath was not the endorsed candidate.
- 1:47:51SPEAKER_26: And because she wasn't, I kept distance because I was supporting our endorsed candidates as a Republican national committee band.
- 1:47:58SPEAKER_26: Well, I found out that Lisa Damath had a turnout machine all across the state.
- 1:48:03SPEAKER_26: She literally had thousands of people calling and turning out voters, sending out mailers.
- 1:48:09SPEAKER_26: Michelle Tefoya, the same exact thing.
- 1:48:12SPEAKER_26: So now they're going to be able to translate that, galvanize everyone together, because ultimately, you said it earlier, Max.
- 1:48:18SPEAKER_26: I would even double down.
- 1:48:20SPEAKER_26: If we got 1.5 million Republican votes during this election cycle and we didn't win, I will eat this hat on camera.
- 1:48:29SPEAKER_26: I will literally eat it.
- 1:48:31SPEAKER_26: I will saute it up and I will eat it.
- 1:48:33SPEAKER_26: I'll put like, I don't know if it's against code, but I'll bring like a Foreman grill and I will season this hat and I will eat it.
- 1:48:39SPEAKER_26: If we turn out that kind of vote, we're going to win.
- 1:48:41SPEAKER_26: So back to the original question about the other blaster and to answer this finally, yes, you can make it too big to rig because all of the election anomalies that occur, all of the fraud that occurs, still has to be small enough that you are able to plausibly say, yeah, it could have been this or could have been that.
- 1:49:02SPEAKER_28: So uh AK will eat his hat.
- 1:49:04SPEAKER_28: Uh Max is gonna go bald.
- 1:49:06SPEAKER_28: Uh Catherine, you want to offer up a challenge?
- 1:49:09SPEAKER_26: She'll name her first baby uh after me.
- 1:49:13SPEAKER_26: Boy or girl.
- 1:49:14SPEAKER_12: No, I'm not I'm not comfortable committing to anything on the air right now.
- 1:49:19SPEAKER_12: Maybe I'll wear a silly shirt.
- 1:49:21SPEAKER_23: I don't blame you.
- 1:49:22SPEAKER_28: Uh friend of the show, Scott, has uh chimed in.
- 1:49:26SPEAKER_28: He's talking about fraud.
- 1:49:28SPEAKER_28: Uh we'll go around the room on the Scott Con level of enthusiasm.
- 1:49:32SPEAKER_28: One one least, five the most.
- 1:49:34SPEAKER_28: Uh Isaac from uh Isaac's uh bathhouse emporium.
- 1:49:38SPEAKER_28: Where's he gonna be?
- 1:49:38SPEAKER_28: Give me four.
- 1:49:39SPEAKER_28: Okay, AK?
- 1:49:40SPEAKER_28: I'm gonna go three this time.
- 1:49:42SPEAKER_30: If we're talking fraud, if we're talking voter fraud, I'm I'm going, we're cranking that dial up to five.
- 1:49:47SPEAKER_12: I was also thinking five because of the uh because of the topic.
- 1:50:27SPEAKER_04: And the Democrats know that they'll never clean in office if you have to do it legally.
- 1:50:31SPEAKER_04: It's a bunch of garbage.
- 1:50:33SPEAKER_28: That couldn't have been a harder five.
- 1:50:39SPEAKER_28: Nicely done there, friend of the show.
- 1:50:41SPEAKER_28: Scott, much uh, much appreciated.
- 1:50:43SPEAKER_28: All right, let's uh go and hear from another uh friend of the show.
- 1:50:47SPEAKER_28: Also wants to comment on uh voting here on the John Justice show.
- 1:50:50SPEAKER_28: Yeah, reporting the license thing.
- 1:50:51SPEAKER_17: Is there a way for state legislators to uh point some more authoritative federal president at the polls, considering uh the amount of fraud that is constantly alleged and the refusal of the uh Secretary of State to give over the voter rolls because that's required by federal law to date, they still have a time.
- 1:51:14SPEAKER_17: So there is a big question.
- 1:51:16SPEAKER_28: Well, I listen, you change over the leadership, and you can you know have uh a group of individuals here in Minnesota that are more likely to want to work with the federal government, we'll probably go and turn over our voter rolls after the election if we were to, if the GOP were to win the uh the majority.
- 1:51:34SPEAKER_28: I think that's what everybody should aim for.
- 1:51:35SPEAKER_28: So anybody have any further thoughts on the on the blast?
- 1:51:38SPEAKER_30: Yeah, it's it's a chicken or egg thing, right?
- 1:51:40SPEAKER_30: Because in order to for us to compel Steve Simon or whomever to do anything, that requires legislation and it requires power, right?
- 1:51:48SPEAKER_30: So I it's not a great answer, but I will tell you it was representative of Quam in the state house, and there were a lot of good small fixes that we were able to get through a Tide House uh when it comes to our elections.
- 1:51:59SPEAKER_30: But to the uh to the blaster's point, yeah, I uh there are ways that we can compel Steve Simon, that we can write legislation, that we can do all sorts of things, but what it requires is not having a DFL road roadblock in either the House or the Senate, which is why Catherine mentioned earlier these down ballot races matter.
- 1:52:19SPEAKER_30: I just wanted to get back to real quick that just the raw number of votes it takes to win an election like this, to give you guys a sense of scale of this thing.
- 1:52:28SPEAKER_30: Tim Walls won in 2022 with a low 1.3 million votes in in a in an election environment where it was not a red wave.
- 1:52:39SPEAKER_30: Actually, in Minnesota, because of the abortion issue that that led us to enough votes statewide to have the trifecta.
- 1:52:49SPEAKER_30: Okay.
- 1:52:49SPEAKER_30: And even with that, you're talking about a high DFL turnout environment, specifically in Minnesota.
- 1:52:55SPEAKER_30: Tim Walls won with 1.3 million votes.
- 1:52:59SPEAKER_30: So again, if we got everybody who voted for Donald Trump back out to vote in this election with 1.5, that is going to be far and away enough in this environment to win.
- 1:53:09SPEAKER_28: We'll um move into the Peggy Flanagan clips right after the uh top of the hour here on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
- 1:53:17SPEAKER_28: As I mentioned earlier, these clips alone got me excited uh for this general in a way I didn't expect just because she is clearly not ready for prime time.
- 1:53:26SPEAKER_28: Running against Angie Craig is one thing, but now that she's in a general, um, her lack of experience is on full display.
- 1:53:34SPEAKER_28: Let me add one element into this because another uh reason why I'm excited for this election, just from an entertainment value, is this um Eric Pratt facing Matt Little.
- 1:53:44SPEAKER_28: Heck yeah.
- 1:53:45SPEAKER_28: For Angie Craig's seat.
- 1:53:47SPEAKER_28: This is gonna be a fun one to watch too, because Matt Little is a crazy person.
- 1:53:51SPEAKER_28: Yep.
- 1:53:51SPEAKER_28: If you followed him at all, go to his X feed because it is wildly entertaining.
- 1:53:57SPEAKER_28: But the dude's kind of a nut bar.
- 1:53:58SPEAKER_28: And I think this is going to be a very, very interesting race to watch.
- 1:54:01SPEAKER_28: And I, you know, I'm just curious, if you guys want to share some thoughts on it, feel free.
- 1:54:04SPEAKER_30: Matt Little's a crazy person, and God bless Eric Pratt.
- 1:54:08SPEAKER_30: He knows I love him.
- 1:54:09SPEAKER_30: Uh, Eric Pratt is the opposite of a crazy person.
- 1:54:14SPEAKER_30: Eric Pratt is about uh like he's a wonderful guy, good family guy.
- 1:54:19SPEAKER_30: He's he serves his district well in the state senate.
- 1:54:22SPEAKER_30: Eric Pratt, like, you want to talk about a non-controversial candidate, it's the craziest person the DFL could find versus probably the most normal guy the Republicans could find in that district.
- 1:54:35SPEAKER_30: That's like the arena we're playing in right now.
- 1:54:37SPEAKER_12: Do you think he could just, I mean, we need to raise some money for Pratt so that he can put the TikTok videos that Matt Little has himself made on primetime TV just on a loop.
- 1:54:50SPEAKER_12: And he'll have it in the bag.
- 1:54:51SPEAKER_12: I mean, if you haven't seen them, go find this man's TikTok.
- 1:54:53SPEAKER_12: It's truly, I mean, it's disturbing.
- 1:54:55SPEAKER_26: Here's what's so fascinating on analysis, the reason why you're seeing these DSA waves really kind of like culminate in Minnesota is that yeah, I everyone knows that younger voters tend to lean to the left.
- 1:55:10SPEAKER_26: And when it comes to a primary, if you can turn out your younger voters, then I think you're gonna be great.
- 1:55:15SPEAKER_26: But I think that you end up hitting a ceiling.
- 1:55:18SPEAKER_26: Whereas in a general election, you get more normal people that come out and vote.
- 1:55:22SPEAKER_26: And if Matt Little just put out all of his memeification stuff that he puts out there, like I'm national committee man, I'm not running for Congress.
- 1:55:29SPEAKER_26: If I run for Congress, you could blast me with all the silly shenanigans that I do.
- 1:55:33SPEAKER_26: I'm very cognizant of that.
- 1:55:34SPEAKER_26: That's why I don't run for Congress.
- 1:55:36SPEAKER_26: Maybe someday when I'm like in my 60s and I'll be like, oh, that was when I was young and dumb or whatever.
- 1:55:40SPEAKER_26: Uh, but Eric Pratt is like the statesman that people want.
- 1:55:44SPEAKER_26: Compare him to Andrew Craig in regards to like their demeanor, they're pretty straightforward people.
- 1:55:49SPEAKER_26: Matt Little is a clown meme lord.
- 1:55:52SPEAKER_26: That's what he is.
- 1:55:53SPEAKER_26: Yeah.
- 1:55:53SPEAKER_26: Which is great for TikTok and you know, generating revenue there.
- 1:55:57SPEAKER_26: You show that to like your 65-year-old, you know, parents or grandparents, depending on how old you are, they're gonna be like, what?
- 1:56:06SPEAKER_26: This guy wants to be in Congress?
- 1:56:07SPEAKER_26: That's insane.
- 1:56:08SPEAKER_26: So yeah, um, I think that's gonna bite them back, and I am here for it.
- 1:56:14SPEAKER_26: I hope that the next kind of you know, cook political report and some other analysis, after having Peggy Flanagan and Matt Little, yes, I hope that it pushes those races to even toss up territory, and then we can see some real money starting to flow into Minnesota, which I am here for because that helps with turnout, which will help make this election too big to rig.
- 1:56:33SPEAKER_28: I'll uh take this opportunity based off of uh AK Camaro's commentary here on a Freedom Friday as we enter into uh the third hour of the show with Catherine Johnson and also uh Max Reimer as well.
- 1:56:45SPEAKER_28: So um this fits in nicely here if you guys haven't seen it.
- 1:56:48SPEAKER_28: Uh on MS Now, uh Chris Matthews was talking to some of the hosts on MS Now, and the Democrat Party has gotten so radical that you actually have Chris Matthews sounding like a moderate all of a sudden.
- 1:57:02SPEAKER_28: That's how bad it's gotten as we enter into the third hour here of the John Justice show, presented by American Experience.
- 1:57:09SPEAKER_00: Here's what I think.
- 1:57:09SPEAKER_00: And I've been thinking about this for some days now.
- 1:57:12SPEAKER_00: The DSA has done a favor to non-DSA Democrats, to regular Democrats who are regular members of the party.
- 1:57:20SPEAKER_00: They've listed what they believe in.
- 1:57:22SPEAKER_00: Their chair made that clear.
- 1:57:23SPEAKER_00: It's in Peggy Noonan's column this week.
- 1:57:25SPEAKER_00: It's very clear we're gonna get rid of ICE, not just ICE, we're gonna get rid of the border.
- 1:57:29SPEAKER_00: We're not gonna have a border anymore.
- 1:57:30SPEAKER_00: We're not gonna effectively control people coming in and out of the country.
- 1:57:36SPEAKER_00: And so I think uh we're not gonna we're gonna get rid of prisons.
- 1:57:39SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, we're gonna get rid of the Pentagon.
- 1:57:41SPEAKER_00: We're gonna negotiate.
- 1:57:42SPEAKER_00: Well, what happens when your hostages are your former diplomats, like what happened with President Carter?
- 1:57:48SPEAKER_00: Uh people take your hostage your diplomats hostages.
- 1:57:51SPEAKER_00: What do you do then?
- 1:57:52SPEAKER_00: You need an army.
- 1:57:53SPEAKER_00: You don't like to like to have an army, but you do need to have one.
- 1:57:57SPEAKER_00: All these positions can be denied by any regular Democrat.
- 1:58:00SPEAKER_00: All you have to do is go out there and say, thank you, DSA, for telling us what you believe in.
- 1:58:05SPEAKER_00: I don't believe in that stuff.
- 1:58:06SPEAKER_00: And discriminate and because I you can't follow AOC.
- 1:58:10SPEAKER_00: I like AOC generally, but she came out and said, we're just a Big Ten party.
- 1:58:14SPEAKER_00: Well, the problem with the Big Ten defense is every Democrat has to defend all this crap coming from the left.
- 1:58:20SPEAKER_00: They've got to say, I believe in all this crazy stuff, and that makes me a Democrat.
- 1:58:24SPEAKER_00: You've got to say, no, no, I'm not a member of the DSA, and here's why, and make it very clear.
- 1:58:28SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna require politicians to be good politicians and say, here's where I stand.
- 1:58:33SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 1:58:33SPEAKER_00: This is what I'm I'm a regular Democrat.
- 1:58:35SPEAKER_00: I'm for labor unions, I'm for opportunity for everybody, I'm for civil rights, I'm for all the things I believe in as a Democrat, but I'm not with this crowd.
- 1:58:43SPEAKER_00: And I think that's gonna be a line that has to be drawn by Democrats because I'm telling you, the last six weeks of this election is gonna be an attack on El Sayyid and the and the DSA in New York and the Mandani, and it's all gonna come out and blame every Democrat for everything the DSA is doing.
- 1:58:59SPEAKER_00: I don't believe in the DSA plan.
- 1:59:01SPEAKER_00: I don't believe in their checklist of what they believe in.
- 1:59:04SPEAKER_00: I'll say so.
- 1:59:05SPEAKER_00: But running for office is gonna require that, I think, before now, before the election.
- 1:59:10SPEAKER_28: Chris Matthews on MS Now here on the John Justice Show, presented by American Experiment.
- 1:59:15SPEAKER_28: If you want to take part in our Freedom Friday uh broadcast, you can email John.justice at AmericanExperiment.org or leave us a comment, a blast on the blaster line at 612-584-4565.
- 2:01:00SPEAKER_28: The AI uh Overlords, the John Justice show presented by American Experiment, our house band, as we are officially into the third hour of the Freedom Friday show.
- 2:01:11SPEAKER_28: We have Katherine Johnson, Representative Max Reimer.
- 2:01:14SPEAKER_28: Hello, RNC committeeman A.K.
- 2:01:16SPEAKER_28: Kamara, and clips from Peggy Flanagan to share with you this morning.
- 2:01:21SPEAKER_28: She did an interview with Fox Nine.
- 2:01:23SPEAKER_28: Um, and they also did one with Michelle Tefoya, by the way.
- 2:01:25SPEAKER_28: I would encourage everybody to go and check out both of those interviews.
- 2:01:29SPEAKER_28: The interview with uh Peggy Flanagan is absolutely fascinating.
- 2:01:32SPEAKER_28: She emphasized the need for healthcare reform, including uh Medicare for all, uh, and banning prior authorization, advocated for affordable child care, raising wages, and getting big money out of politics.
- 2:01:44SPEAKER_28: Uh what is it?
- 2:01:45SPEAKER_28: Money over money, uh money versus the many.
- 2:01:47SPEAKER_28: Money over the many.
- 2:01:49SPEAKER_28: That's what it is.
- 2:01:49SPEAKER_28: That's right.
- 2:01:50SPEAKER_28: Flanagan also criticized ICE, calling for dismantling and accountability for its actions in Minnesota.
- 2:01:56SPEAKER_28: Let's just run through a few of these clips that she was doing on national media.
- 2:02:00SPEAKER_28: We'll start off with uh MS now.
- 2:02:02SPEAKER_28: Um she's asked about the fraud and then uh promptly decided to go and toss Governor Dimwalls under the bus in doing so.
- 2:02:10SPEAKER_01: Do you deserve any responsibility, though, Lieutenant Governor, for those fraud schemes that have taken place in your state over the last several years?
- 2:02:18SPEAKER_31: I would say, you know, the the governor says the buck stops with him.
- 2:02:21SPEAKER_31: Um more should have been done sooner.
- 2:02:23SPEAKER_31: Uh and and I agree.
- 2:02:25SPEAKER_31: Uh, and now we know that uh a hundred uh people uh have uh been charged, 60 uh have been convicted.
- 2:02:34SPEAKER_28: Oh, it didn't get any better after that, uh, by the way.
- 2:02:37SPEAKER_28: So initial thoughts on uh on Peggy Flanagan talking about the fraud.
- 2:02:41SPEAKER_26: I love it, man.
- 2:02:42SPEAKER_26: I I made a uh a good meme of Peggy Flanagan uh kicking Tim Walls under a bus, the Flanagan bus.
- 2:02:49SPEAKER_26: And uh I actually used the same meme when Kamala did the same thing to Joe Biden.
- 2:02:54SPEAKER_26: It's just funny, like they will turn on the person that you know basically brought them into the fold, has allowed them to have this like political ascendancy, and they're like, yeah, like he said, the buck stops with him.
- 2:03:09SPEAKER_29: The buck stops with him.
- 2:03:10SPEAKER_26: And it's just like no one believes you.
- 2:03:12SPEAKER_26: What were you doing?
- 2:03:14SPEAKER_26: It's the same thing when it came to Kamala.
- 2:03:16SPEAKER_26: You were the vice president.
- 2:03:17SPEAKER_26: So if you are at all critical of what the president in that case or the governor in this case, are you saying that you're incompetent?
- 2:03:26SPEAKER_26: Well, like, what are you actually saying here?
- 2:03:28SPEAKER_26: And it's it's just funny because clearly it's a rehearsed line.
- 2:03:32SPEAKER_26: Yeah, I believe 100% that Tim Walls probably doesn't like that she did it, but like is okay, like, yeah, I understand.
- 2:03:38SPEAKER_26: You know, I'm gonna be the whipping post, and hopefully I can kind of take the heat off of you so everyone continues to attack me and not attack you.
- 2:03:46SPEAKER_26: But it's hilarious.
- 2:03:47SPEAKER_28: Well, and Max, before we get to your uh to your thoughts and to Catherine's, but to your point, uh AK, it it kind of raises the specter in my mind, or maybe offers up a little bit more evidence into Governor Dimwall's dropping out.
- 2:04:01SPEAKER_28: And I think we may have talked about this line when he first did, but to your point, you're right.
- 2:04:07SPEAKER_28: He ends up being essentially the scapegoat for the individuals that are running.
- 2:04:11SPEAKER_28: And I think they probably have had a conversation.
- 2:04:14SPEAKER_28: He probably is like, yeah, I know you guys are all, I'm just gonna keep running over me.
- 2:04:17SPEAKER_28: It's fine.
- 2:04:18SPEAKER_28: Which is interesting when you juxtapose that next to what he's been doing lately of going out with his and displaying his atrocious golf game.
- 2:04:26SPEAKER_28: My miniature golf game.
- 2:04:27SPEAKER_28: That's been weird.
- 2:04:27SPEAKER_28: My miniature golf game better than his than his actual uh golf game.
- 2:04:33SPEAKER_28: So maybe that's the reason why.
- 2:04:35SPEAKER_28: Maybe he knew that it was gonna be a tough road and it provides the opportunity of cover for the uh candidates who are running a max.
- 2:04:42SPEAKER_30: And the biggest gift, and this is why primaries really do matter.
- 2:04:48SPEAKER_30: The biggest gift was that Angie Craig legitimized this whole conversation.
- 2:04:52SPEAKER_30: It was her number one point of attack on Peggy Flanagan.
- 2:04:55SPEAKER_30: The whole time she ran ads against Peggy Flanagan on you, Peggy Flanagan, allowed the fraud.
- 2:05:02SPEAKER_30: And I will just say, what these interviews, this MS Now and even the Fox, which we'll get into it sounds like a little bit more, but the Fox 9 interview and the few interviews that Peggy Flanagan has done, what's become very apparent is that Peggy Flanagan is incapable of pivoting to a general election message.
- 2:05:20SPEAKER_30: Yeah, absolutely.
- 2:05:22SPEAKER_30: Angie Craig would be 10,000% better on the general election message.
- 2:05:26SPEAKER_30: Everything she got criticized for, including like the Lake and Riley Act, I guarantee you, because there's good elements of that, and Minnesotans writ large support something like the Lake and Riley Act.
- 2:05:36SPEAKER_30: Angie Craig would be leaning back into it.
- 2:05:38SPEAKER_30: She'd be doing a lot of what Amy Klobuchar is doing, where it's just playing on small issues.
- 2:05:43SPEAKER_30: Peggy Flanagan isn't capable of doing that.
- 2:05:45SPEAKER_30: Peggy Flanagan is going to keep talking about yes, we need to trans our kids.
- 2:05:49SPEAKER_30: Yes, we don't want your private health insurance to be a thing anymore.
- 2:05:52SPEAKER_30: Yes, we want to abolish ICE.
- 2:05:54SPEAKER_30: We want to abolish federal immigration.
- 2:05:57SPEAKER_30: She is not capable of getting into a message that appeals to the vast majority of Minnesotans.
- 2:06:03SPEAKER_30: And this is the beautiful part about somebody like Michelle Tefoya running.
- 2:06:06SPEAKER_30: Because I said earlier in the show, you have somebody who is aesthetically a moderate, who most people perceive as a moderate.
- 2:06:13SPEAKER_30: Michelle Tefoya is going to have numerous angles of attack going forward into November.
- 2:06:19SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I hope you're right, Max.
- 2:06:20SPEAKER_12: I think everything about Peggy Flanagan does come off to me as extreme and radical.
- 2:06:25SPEAKER_12: And she said so many things in the past that are truly insane that um I think that will not uh help her in this race.
- 2:06:33SPEAKER_12: But like you said, AK, I find it interesting that this was clearly a rehearsed line because it sucks.
- 2:06:39SPEAKER_12: Like that was the best she could do.
- 2:06:41SPEAKER_30: A lot of us.
- 2:06:43SPEAKER_30: A lot of us.
- 2:06:44SPEAKER_12: And she clearly thought about it because she didn't just come up with the buck stops with Mia in the moment.
- 2:06:48SPEAKER_12: You know, she she practiced what she was gonna say on fraud, and that's what her and her people came up with.
- 2:06:52SPEAKER_12: Like, that doesn't give me a lot of hope for uh her messaging going forward.
- 2:06:55SPEAKER_28: Well, there was an election, there was one of the recent election cycles, and I can't I I I'm not gonna take credit for this.
- 2:07:00SPEAKER_28: I heard it from somebody else, but I but I do tend to agree, and that is bad candidates will always be bad candidates.
- 2:07:07SPEAKER_28: You can give them more information, you can get them better at perhaps answering the question, you can train them a little bit, but typically a bad candidate is just that: a bad candidate.
- 2:07:21SPEAKER_28: And I'm not quite ready to say she's a bad candidate, but she certainly is demonstrating that potentially she falls under that category.
- 2:07:28SPEAKER_28: Uh, Laimi Clovishar, I tend to believe, is a bad candidate.
- 2:07:31SPEAKER_28: She knows her stuff, right?
- 2:07:33SPEAKER_28: She is seasoned, she knows how to do these interviews, but she's not a likable person in any way, shape, or form.
- 2:07:39SPEAKER_28: The woman is like incapable of smiling, and even when she does smile, it looks like she's angry.
- 2:07:44SPEAKER_28: And that was clear when she was giving her acceptance speeches.
- 2:07:48SPEAKER_28: I was like so pleased to see her.
- 2:07:50SPEAKER_28: Yes, read off your script.
- 2:07:51SPEAKER_28: Yes, show everybody just how unlikable you are.
- 2:07:54SPEAKER_28: Because I don't think she's a good candidate, even though she is very good at campaigning and very good at doing at doing interviews.
- 2:08:00SPEAKER_28: And I think what Peggy Flanagan is showing here is that she may indeed be a be a bad candidate.
- 2:08:05SPEAKER_26: And I I want to clarify something too.
- 2:08:07SPEAKER_26: That uh Tim Walls is not doing this because he's like this guy that's falling on the sword, because he just wants to help the cause.
- 2:08:15SPEAKER_26: Sure.
- 2:08:16SPEAKER_26: No, it's because uh he already is gonna write a book, and and I believe that he's delusional enough that he thinks that going into 2028, by him kind of doing this thing that feels like he's sacrificing himself for the party, it's gonna guarantee him a guarantee him a spot in a cabinet when they think that in 2028 it's gonna be AOC or whoever is gonna be the Democrat nominee.
- 2:08:41SPEAKER_26: That's why he's doing this.
- 2:08:42SPEAKER_26: It is is not an altruistic move, but I did see this coming.
- 2:08:46SPEAKER_26: And and if you actually go back and you were to listen to old Freedom Fridays, I talked about this often that Tim Walls was just basically trying to be the focal point because he is so easy to attack.
- 2:09:00SPEAKER_26: The thing that we have to stop doing, we have 80 days until the general election.
- 2:09:04SPEAKER_26: Yes, Tim Walls sucks, but Amy Clobishar is running for governor and Peggy Flanagan is running for Senate.
- 2:09:10SPEAKER_26: Everything has to be focused on how culpable they were in the fraud.
- 2:09:14SPEAKER_26: And as easy as it was even back during the Biden time, when Biden stepped off, it's like we have to focus on Kamala, and we did a really good job at pivoting.
- 2:09:22SPEAKER_26: And to your point, John, bad candidates are bad candidates.
- 2:09:25SPEAKER_26: Kamala Harris was a terrible candidate.
- 2:09:27SPEAKER_26: Yeah, and and they tried to make her a thing.
- 2:09:30SPEAKER_26: Peggy Flanagan, the same way.
- 2:09:32SPEAKER_26: They're gonna try and make her a thing.
- 2:09:34SPEAKER_26: I mean, I like to call her Marge Online.
- 2:09:37SPEAKER_26: You cannot get rid of the fact that she prominently wore a t-shirt that had a K-bar knife that said protect trans kids.
- 2:09:45SPEAKER_26: Yep.
- 2:09:46SPEAKER_26: Like this woman is a psychopath, in my opinion.
- 2:09:50SPEAKER_26: She is she's that I'm so happy she won by such a large margin.
- 2:09:55SPEAKER_26: It's going to be so hard for her to pivot to a general election, and that's what she's going to need to do.
- 2:10:00SPEAKER_26: And I think that's why we really have all the ingredients for this gourmet Michelin star level meal.
- 2:10:07SPEAKER_26: We just gotta cook it right.
- 2:10:09SPEAKER_30: Yeah, I think one thing that's interesting is you have two candidates who have run many times for public office in Peggy Flanagan and in Amy Klobuchar.
- 2:10:18SPEAKER_30: And in Peggy Flanagan's case, especially, she's never been challenged in a real way.
- 2:10:23SPEAKER_30: She's never had to run a competitive election to the extent that she has had to do that.
- 2:10:27SPEAKER_30: It's just been under the umbrella of Tim Walls.
- 2:10:30SPEAKER_30: But but Amy Klobishar is the same way.
- 2:10:32SPEAKER_30: Amy Klobishar, we I still contend that when you have been in DC as long as Amy Klobishar has, this is a town that is full of rumors, that is full of anecdotes, that is full of you know the skeletons in that bubble.
- 2:10:47SPEAKER_30: Amy Klobuchar is a candidate who has really never been vetted.
- 2:10:51SPEAKER_30: Not in a real way, not with money behind it.
- 2:10:54SPEAKER_30: And I think before November happens, I don't know anything yet, but I think that there's gonna be some skeletons that come out about this candidate that we have never heard before, and that maybe maybe media has actively um covered for.
- 2:11:10SPEAKER_28: Well, I think one of the other problems that uh Peggy Flanagan is facing is that my understanding is she's never held down like a blue-collar job like ever.
- 2:11:18SPEAKER_28: Oh, probably not.
- 2:11:19SPEAKER_28: If you don't and listen, if you don't have that kind of experience, you know, it in in life, I mean, it just puts you, it immediately is gonna put you at a disadvantage when you're talking about the issues that people face.
- 2:11:30SPEAKER_28: There's a lack of relatability uh there.
- 2:11:33SPEAKER_28: Uh, here's more.
- 2:11:34SPEAKER_28: Uh so two clips from CNN, one talking about ICE and the other about gender-affirming care.
- 2:11:40SPEAKER_28: What's kind of funny about these clips too is that the CNN host doesn't seem to be on board.
- 2:11:45SPEAKER_28: Like the CNN host is actually doing a decent job.
- 2:11:48SPEAKER_28: Like they're actually doing what I say they never do and following up when they get the word salad answers.
- 2:11:56SPEAKER_28: So here's the first one on uh Ice with Peggy Fine.
- 2:12:00SPEAKER_31: How would it work practically for like a criminal in your state who's here illegally?
- 2:12:03SPEAKER_31: How would that work practically?
- 2:12:06SPEAKER_31: Would that person be arrested and deported and what what agency would do it?
- 2:12:09SPEAKER_31: I'm just wondering how to do that.
- 2:12:10SPEAKER_28: So she's talking about she asked her about abolishing abolishing ice.
- 2:12:14SPEAKER_28: They were kind of talking all over each other at the beginning, but she's asking about you want to abolish ice.
- 2:12:18SPEAKER_28: Essentially, what are you going to replace it with?
- 2:12:19SPEAKER_28: Let me go ahead and play the uh clip over here.
- 2:12:21SPEAKER_31: If they were abolished, how would it work practically for like a criminal in your state who's here illegally?
- 2:12:25SPEAKER_31: How would that work practically?
- 2:12:28SPEAKER_31: Would that person be arrested and deported?
- 2:12:30SPEAKER_31: And what what agency would do it?
- 2:12:31SPEAKER_31: I'm just wondering how that would work.
- 2:12:34SPEAKER_31: We need violent criminals to be held to account and we need an immigration system.
- 2:12:39SPEAKER_31: Donald Trump's ice is completely broken, and it is not uh the answer.
- 2:12:44SPEAKER_31: Um, and again, I would just say while the national media may have moved on, we are still recovering from Operation Metro Surge here.
- 2:12:54SPEAKER_31: Uh and you know, the the fear, the chaos, um, it's outrageous.
- 2:12:59SPEAKER_31: And I think the cruelty is the point.
- 2:13:02SPEAKER_28: In the Fox 9 interview, she does that with almost every single question.
- 2:13:05SPEAKER_28: She gives like a quasi-answer as best she can, whatever she remembers based off of the script that was written for, and then she immediately defaults to Trump derangement syndrome, Trump is bad.
- 2:13:15SPEAKER_28: This is what Trump has uh has done it with.
- 2:13:16SPEAKER_28: She doesn't have an answer for what she would do in replacing uh ICE.
- 2:13:20SPEAKER_28: Uh Catherine, your uh your thoughts on this clip.
- 2:13:22SPEAKER_12: I just I'm interested to see how this is gonna turn out for Democrats because they keep bringing up Operation Metro surge and how insane it was and how much it impacted all of our lives.
- 2:13:31SPEAKER_12: And I don't know about you guys, but it didn't impact my life one iota at all, like ever.
- 2:13:37SPEAKER_12: And so I think if you live in the circle of Minneapolis libs who were out every day on the streets protesting and intervening with, you know, the officers trying to do their jobs, maybe you think that this was a huge deal that you'll never get over.
- 2:13:51SPEAKER_12: I don't think that's how the vast majority of Minnesotans see it whatsoever.
- 2:13:55SPEAKER_30: No, it reminds me of a lot uh of the Kamala Harris campaign, where basically the focus, they kept bringing it back to January 6th, January 6th, January 6th.
- 2:14:04SPEAKER_30: Trump is a threat to our democracy because of January 6th.
- 2:14:07SPEAKER_30: And I'm not saying that people are gonna forget about Operation Metro Surge because I happen to think that it was, it did shock the system for a lot of people.
- 2:14:14SPEAKER_30: I know a lot of Republicans who were like, whoa, we didn't have this in mind.
- 2:14:18SPEAKER_30: No matter what you thought about it, it is something that sticks in people's minds.
- 2:14:22SPEAKER_30: That said, Minnesota, election cycle after election cycle, going back to even like 2010 during the Tea Party movement, Minnesota is immune.
- 2:14:33SPEAKER_30: I won't say completely immune, but in some ways immune to national waves, to federal wave elections.
- 2:14:40SPEAKER_30: Because I think that Minnesota's problems, especially given the current year, are unique to Minnesota.
- 2:14:46SPEAKER_30: When we we did not other states did not have the fraud problem, for instance, that Minnesota had.
- 2:14:52SPEAKER_30: So what Peggy Flanagan is trying to do, and even Amy Klobuchar to a certain extent, is leverage this national environment because that's what everyone else is doing.
- 2:15:01SPEAKER_30: I'm not sure that's gonna play in Minnesota the way that she thinks it is.
- 2:15:06SPEAKER_30: I and again, I'm not gaslighting anybody.
- 2:15:08SPEAKER_30: We still have a ton of work to do.
- 2:15:10SPEAKER_30: I'm not saying that we're gonna win tomorrow, but I will just say if you're not addressing the problems that are unique to Minnesota and you're just saying Trump bad, Trump bad, Trump bad, I'm not sure that's gonna work the way you think it will.
- 2:15:23SPEAKER_28: Well, and the anti-ICE operation metro surge focus is reaching a point of diminishing return for Democrats, in my opinion.
- 2:15:32SPEAKER_28: And case in point is something that I found earlier this week.
- 2:15:35SPEAKER_28: The far-left-leaning Minnesota reformer put out an article, and I saw this in several places, where if you actually go and do some digging over ICE actions, ICE arrested and deported more people in the month of July than since the start of all the operations since Trump got into office.
- 2:15:50SPEAKER_28: Nobody heard a lick about it because there weren't any controversy on the street, and the Democrats weren't going out there telling people to go and protest.
- 2:15:57SPEAKER_28: And I bring this up because the lines that were being used at the time during Metro Surge is that ICE is coming in and destroying our communities.
- 2:16:05SPEAKER_28: They're they're dismantling neighborhoods and they're causing all this and instilling all this fear.
- 2:16:10SPEAKER_28: And individuals like myself and others were sitting about going, none of this would, you wouldn't even know this was going on if it wasn't for the fact that Democrats were encouraging individuals and they bought Hook Line and Sinker to go out and act like on-the-street insurrectionists.
- 2:16:23SPEAKER_28: Well, they're not doing that anymore.
- 2:16:25SPEAKER_28: And so ICE has been able to continue their operations, arrest and deport criminal illegal aliens in record numbers, and nobody even knows about it, which just proves the points that we were making before.
- 2:16:34SPEAKER_28: And the reason why Democrats aren't doing it is because they know that this is an argument that no longer is going to provide them the political capital that they were getting at the beginning of the year, because it does cross party lines.
- 2:16:46SPEAKER_28: And to Catherine's point, most people were not directly impacted by the odds by the uh ICE operations.
- 2:16:52SPEAKER_28: And so now they're not out there pushing anybody to go and protest anymore because it's not a political winner for them currently.
- 2:16:58SPEAKER_28: And one last point on that, to the point of diminishing returns, the majority of individuals that actually buy into this Operation Metro Surge, continued criticism in ICE, those people are already all voting for Democrats, anyways.
- 2:17:11SPEAKER_28: You're not changing any more hearts and minds.
- 2:17:13SPEAKER_28: Those opinions are all uh are all made up.
- 2:17:16SPEAKER_28: Before I get into not made up in terms of their fake, I mean they've they've already made up their minds.
- 2:17:22SPEAKER_28: I just want to be clear on that before people start slamming me with posts.
- 2:17:26SPEAKER_28: Um, before I play a uh a blast uh from the blaster line, anybody have any further comments on this before we get to the next Peggy Flanagan clip, too?
- 2:17:32SPEAKER_26: So from that last clip, if if you listen carefully, she's still using Tim Walls' talking points because she ended like that last little piece with like the point, you know, what'd she say?
- 2:17:44SPEAKER_26: Uh pain is the point or whatever.
- 2:17:46SPEAKER_26: Like that was this line that Walls kept on saying over and over again.
- 2:17:49SPEAKER_26: So it just again it adds on that Marge Flanagan is an awful, awful candidate.
- 2:17:56SPEAKER_26: But here's the thing, right?
- 2:17:57SPEAKER_26: I think that outstate, we they don't even know what like what Metro Surge was.
- 2:18:02SPEAKER_26: Like they they hear it, like they read the news, but like they're like, what it wasn't bad.
- 2:18:07SPEAKER_26: Even out in Chisago Lindstrom area, when when I talk to people and I work for an insurance agency and they have a lot of people coming in, like it wasn't a thing.
- 2:18:16SPEAKER_26: A couple of like blue-haired old ladies talked about it at the very, very beginning, but like right now it's not an issue.
- 2:18:22SPEAKER_26: And and thankfully, I hope that they keep on doubling down on a very metro centric issue.
- 2:18:29SPEAKER_26: Because here's the alternate kind of like vision.
- 2:18:33SPEAKER_26: People that are outside of the metro really care about the fraud because even their property taxes are going up.
- 2:18:39SPEAKER_26: And as they see that they're having to put more money into government coffers and there's all this fraud occurring, it has the potential with good campaigning by Republicans to turn out higher than normal levels of voters in already red areas.
- 2:18:54SPEAKER_26: And I think that if they keep on beating this MetroSearch bad, when you see that the numbers come out just like you stated, John, that we've had more deportations, but they've clearly fixed some of the things that maybe visually were very, very jarring.
- 2:19:09SPEAKER_26: But the point is that they are executing mass deportation still in a far better way.
- 2:19:16SPEAKER_26: It completely deflates their argument because for a while they were going with a we won, we beat them back, they left Minnesota, and it's like, oh, we left.
- 2:19:25SPEAKER_26: Is that why we've deported more people now than before?
- 2:19:28SPEAKER_26: So I love that they're gonna continue to use that attack vector because they're just not.
- 2:19:34SPEAKER_26: I think they thought that this would be like a hand basket gift wrapped type of election.
- 2:19:40SPEAKER_26: That's what I really think they thought.
- 2:19:42SPEAKER_26: And thankfully, the Trump administration, for all the criticisms you can have about the Iran war, they've done a lot of other good domestic stuff that has not really given any more energy.
- 2:19:52SPEAKER_26: And I hope that continues for the next 80 days because if we keep it here in Minnesota, the narrative has been set that fraud is bad and the Democrats are gonna have to turn on their own in a real big way and start gutting all of these programs, or at least talking like they're going to, if they actually want to fight back against the fraud narrative.
- 2:20:09SPEAKER_28: Uh aka Kamara invoked the word here on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment, and that word is energy.
- 2:20:16unknown: They have energy.
- 2:20:19unknown: They have energy.
- 2:20:24SPEAKER_02: They them energy.
- 2:20:31SPEAKER_02: This is a public service announcement.
- 2:20:34SPEAKER_02: Eddie Montrest can introduce outfit.
- 2:20:37SPEAKER_24: This is a sweet friendly binding.
- 2:20:40SPEAKER_24: That you're missing your show off your binders.
- 2:20:44SPEAKER_27: Off your binders, yeah.
- 2:20:46SPEAKER_27: Wolk one point.
- 2:20:49SPEAKER_18: You plucking chickens are absolutely hysterical today.
- 2:20:52SPEAKER_18: Peggy and Amy are gonna win by crazy record margins because the majority of Minnesotans do not care about the They really don't.
- 2:21:05SPEAKER_10: They think about the life.
- 2:21:06SPEAKER_28: Okay, so I'm gonna work through this here.
- 2:21:08SPEAKER_28: I don't take any What up, Eric?
- 2:21:10SPEAKER_28: I don't take awesome.
- 2:21:11SPEAKER_28: I don't take anything, I don't think that they take anything that they say seriously because it makes no logical sense.
- 2:21:18SPEAKER_28: So there's more here, but I kind of want to work through it, okay?
- 2:21:20SPEAKER_28: Because it's a joke.
- 2:21:21SPEAKER_28: Because it's a joke.
- 2:21:22SPEAKER_28: He just says things or she just says things just to uh spark a reaction, and it's fine.
- 2:21:27SPEAKER_28: But first off, to sit back and say uh Peggy and Amy are gonna walk away uh with uh and win by crazy record margins, it that is a completely ignorant statement to make.
- 2:21:38SPEAKER_28: You can say you think they're favored, you can say I think they're going to win, but to not acknowledge at all the candidates the GOP put up and the challenges that they will mount against these candidates is a really ignorant statement to make.
- 2:21:51SPEAKER_28: When it comes to the fraud, that's absolutely not true.
- 2:21:55SPEAKER_28: Poll after poll after poll.
- 2:21:56SPEAKER_28: As a matter of fact, uh, Center of the American Experiment just did a brand new poll.
- 2:22:00SPEAKER_28: Fraud is the far and away number one issue concerning all of Minnesotans.
- 2:22:07SPEAKER_28: And I don't care which part party that you that you belong to.
- 2:22:10SPEAKER_28: I didn't know, Catherine, if you wanted to chime in further on that before.
- 2:22:13SPEAKER_12: Well, no, it's absolutely true.
- 2:22:14SPEAKER_12: We see it in every poll, and you hear it from every person you speak to.
- 2:22:17SPEAKER_12: I mean, fraud is the number one issue, even Democrats would agree with that.
- 2:22:22SPEAKER_12: I don't really know where her talking point is coming from because it's just not true.
- 2:22:26SPEAKER_12: And I hear no other Democrats saying that.
- 2:22:29SPEAKER_12: I also just want to point out that the voice changer was working really hard on that one because she started going and it kind of glitched, you know.
- 2:22:37SPEAKER_12: So uh props to the voice changer.
- 2:22:39SPEAKER_18: Leaving Alex Paretti's eyes as he was shot in the back six times in the spine by a thug who faced zero consequences, by the way.
- 2:22:48SPEAKER_18: They're gonna think about the Iran war, the cost of living, price of gas, but they're not gonna be thinking about the flaws like you guys are obsessed with.
- 2:22:56SPEAKER_18: And the sooner you come to grips with that, the better.
- 2:22:59SPEAKER_28: Okay, hold on.
- 2:23:00SPEAKER_28: There's more here, but let me just say it also continues to prove the ignorance because when you're talking who are you talking about?
- 2:23:06SPEAKER_28: Look, if you're talking about Democrat voters, okay, I'll give it a to you.
- 2:23:10SPEAKER_28: We're talking about Republican voters.
- 2:23:12SPEAKER_28: Or independents.
- 2:23:13SPEAKER_28: Or independents, right?
- 2:23:14SPEAKER_28: And those are the individuals that Republicans need to get turned out in droves.
- 2:23:18SPEAKER_28: So to say this is what voters are going to be concerned about, you're just flat wrong.
- 2:23:22SPEAKER_28: There may be some concern with GOP voters, but again, we're talking about GOP voter turnout, not Democrats, who I would align some of your statements with.
- 2:23:36SPEAKER_28: He said Tefoya runs from debates like Lisa Damath.
- 2:23:41SPEAKER_28: Okay.
- 2:23:42SPEAKER_28: I mean, like show your work.
- 2:23:43SPEAKER_26: Democrats have been running from debates as well.
- 2:23:46SPEAKER_26: If you remember, like there was a question about Kamala Harris and and whatever.
- 2:23:50SPEAKER_26: And I personally would love to see Michelle Tefoya versus Marge because I think that Tefoya would wipe the floor with her because she's a broadcast trained person who's very, very good at bringing up points that are poignant.
- 2:24:05SPEAKER_26: Whereas Marge has no idea how to do that.
- 2:24:07SPEAKER_26: She just she has her talking points, and like Max said earlier, she's never been tested on this level, this scale.
- 2:24:14SPEAKER_26: And really, in this election between Angie Craig and Peggy Flanagan, they really never went head to head.
- 2:24:21SPEAKER_26: No, like that you can go and watch some of like these, like they did like forum type of stuff, and it it wasn't good.
- 2:24:28SPEAKER_28: There is a very big potential that a debate between Flanagan and Tefoya would come off.
- 2:24:34SPEAKER_28: The closest sort of uh example I could give would be Vance versus versus versus Dim Walls.
- 2:24:41SPEAKER_28: Very, very similar.
- 2:24:42SPEAKER_28: Okay, uh, she has more to say.
- 2:24:43SPEAKER_18: You guys are not prepared, unfortunately, and they're awfully flawed candidates.
- 2:24:47SPEAKER_18: Lisa Davis has no track record or accomplishments besides being speaker of the house for a little bit.
- 2:24:52SPEAKER_18: Besides, besides.
- 2:24:53SPEAKER_18: Let's be real.
- 2:24:54SPEAKER_18: Let's get uh let's get our game faces on.
- 2:24:56SPEAKER_18: Have a great day.
- 2:24:58SPEAKER_28: I'm so glad that you put your ignorance on a full display.
- 2:25:01SPEAKER_28: You know, I listen, I I appreciate the fact that you, you know, found out how to you know download the Mixler app and finally figure out how to listen to the show after after three weeks.
- 2:25:10SPEAKER_28: But uh at a bare minimum, you know, do us all a favor and provide some relevant cogent arguments and be a little bit in reality.
- 2:25:18SPEAKER_28: I'm not expecting any foe of the show to become a conservative or a Republican.
- 2:25:23SPEAKER_28: I expect you to lean into your liberal views, but at the same time, you know, let's have a rational adult conversation about the actual issues and don't just throw out these sort of blanket statements that there's no basis in reality.
- 2:25:38SPEAKER_28: And the last one that I'll that I'll use as the example on that is a Lisa Damoth com uh comment about her not having any accomplishments.
- 2:25:44SPEAKER_28: That was probably the most ignorant statement that the individual could have made on there when you look at what she was able to do within the within the legislature.
- 2:25:52SPEAKER_26: Not only that, okay, Lisa Damouth was able to not let the government shut down for, I don't know, perpetuity by coming together and having to negotiate with Democrats while also not giving away all of the things that Republicans elected her to go and do.
- 2:26:07SPEAKER_26: That's a very difficult thing to accomplish.
- 2:26:10SPEAKER_26: You can have your inside baseball critiques, but uh clearly she was able to negotiate and actually be Speaker of the House in a very, very effective way because the other knock would be on her that she, you know, gave away the kitchen sink and Republicans just folded, which literally did not happen.
- 2:26:27SPEAKER_26: But she was able to get Democrats to at least have to concede.
- 2:26:30SPEAKER_26: So the if you're going to attack Lisa Damath from the left and say that she's accomplished nothing and done nothing, uh, that is absurd considering that she had to go against Democrats and kept the government running.
- 2:26:43SPEAKER_26: The the second thing, too, bad, bad, bad for Eric or Eric or whatever their name is.
- 2:26:49SPEAKER_26: Um, Lisa Damath is the first African-American woman, speaker of the House in Minnesota.
- 2:26:55SPEAKER_26: How dare you, liberal?
- 2:26:58SPEAKER_28: We have one more Peggy Flanagan clip to share from CNN.
- 2:27:01SPEAKER_28: She's asked about gender-affirming care and that there should be a minimum age attached to it.
- 2:27:07SPEAKER_28: Uh, here is that excuse.
- 2:27:08SPEAKER_31: Minnesota law does not set a minimum age for gender-affirming care.
- 2:27:13SPEAKER_31: Do you believe there should be one?
- 2:27:15SPEAKER_31: I mean, I believe that what we need to do is make sure that people have access uh to health care.
- 2:27:21SPEAKER_31: Frankly, that's one of the reasons, you know, why I've run so hard on Medicare for all.
- 2:27:27SPEAKER_31: Uh and making sure that's a good idea.
- 2:27:30SPEAKER_31: Should there be an age limit?
- 2:27:32SPEAKER_31: Uh I think gender-affirming care is part of health care.
- 2:27:35SPEAKER_31: People need an age limit for uh healthcare.
- 2:27:39SPEAKER_31: I think our law, as it stands in, is is a good law.
- 2:27:43SPEAKER_31: Yes, I know.
- 2:27:45SPEAKER_31: But I think the real question uh that people are struggling with is if I go to the doctor, how am I gonna pay that bill?
- 2:27:52SPEAKER_31: Um, you know, when few folks have sixteen thousand, seventeen thousand dollars, it's untenable for people.
- 2:27:59SPEAKER_31: So that is the issue uh surrounding health care that I hear from Minnesotans all across the state.
- 2:28:05SPEAKER_31: Okay, so so you support the law as is, no, no limit.
- 2:28:08SPEAKER_31: So if a 10-year-old wanted it, you would be okay with that?
- 2:28:10SPEAKER_31: Let me be clear.
- 2:28:12SPEAKER_31: I want to be I want to be clear that the difference absolutely should be made between uh a family and their doctor.
- 2:28:22SPEAKER_31: Period.
- 2:28:23SPEAKER_31: Full stop.
- 2:28:24SPEAKER_27: Shh wasn't clear on anything.
- 2:28:26SPEAKER_27: I want to be clear, proceeds to say nothing.
- 2:28:29SPEAKER_28: Oh, again, it was probably that clip that got me the most excited because as I said, she's just not ready for prime time, and that is and that is complete evidence of it.
- 2:28:39SPEAKER_30: And that's like with Eric from Brainerd's uh blaster comment, too.
- 2:28:42SPEAKER_30: This idea that it's gonna be a blowout, it's gonna there are a lot of big claims in that blast, okay?
- 2:28:50SPEAKER_30: And he seems awfully confident.
- 2:28:52SPEAKER_30: What I'll just what I'll just say here is that you listen to a clip like that, and all I gotta say is let's just see how it goes.
- 2:29:00SPEAKER_30: Because that was a disaster.
- 2:29:02SPEAKER_30: And I don't think I think that is the best of Peggy Flanagan.
- 2:29:05SPEAKER_30: I think that is all you will see from now until November is random, stuttering half thoughts to pretty easy questions.
- 2:29:16SPEAKER_30: Like this is another thing where if Angie Craig were the candidate and were asked that question, it would be the easiest pivot in the world for her.
- 2:29:22SPEAKER_30: She'd be like, nope, I'd like to see some restrictions on it.
- 2:29:25SPEAKER_30: And then guess what?
- 2:29:26SPEAKER_30: You bury the issue, you appeal to moderate voters.
- 2:29:29SPEAKER_30: It's the easiest thing in the world.
- 2:29:31SPEAKER_30: But Peggy's ideology doesn't precludes her from going against that narrative.
- 2:29:36SPEAKER_12: Yeah, we just need to make sure the national spotlight stays on this race, I think, which Michelle uh Tefoya has done a great job of because she is a national name.
- 2:29:43SPEAKER_12: Because what we see here is exactly what we saw with Tim Walls, which is under a national spotlight, he completely crumbles.
- 2:29:50SPEAKER_12: He doesn't know how to ask answer questions from an actually adversarial press.
- 2:29:55SPEAKER_12: Because here, when you're a politician on the left in Minnesota, you never have to do that, literally ever.
- 2:30:02SPEAKER_12: So when you actually get a reporter, even if they're at CNN, who says, Well, actually, will you please answer my question?
- 2:30:08SPEAKER_12: Uh, they completely crumble under the pressure.
- 2:30:10SPEAKER_12: So hopefully, Michelle is able to keep this race in the national spotlight.
- 2:30:13SPEAKER_12: So far, it's working like a charm.
- 2:30:14SPEAKER_26: And what I love the most is that again, you she she could have leaned in to her like, I'm pro-trans and kids.
- 2:30:21SPEAKER_26: She could have said, I'm not gonna play these games.
- 2:30:24SPEAKER_26: This is the decision that needs to be like she could have come off with a DSA type answer that would have been like, oh, you know, dunking on CNN or whatever it might be.
- 2:30:33SPEAKER_26: But this is just shows how bad of a candidate that she actually is, that she just like her brain just go back to talking about healthcare, talk about healthcare, and not even answer the question.
- 2:30:44SPEAKER_26: Because she could have just said, no, I really don't think because there's not an age limit on what a decision should be made by your family or whatever.
- 2:30:52SPEAKER_26: And even though people would be like, Oh, I can't believe she doesn't believe that there's not, but she wouldn't answer the question.
- 2:30:58SPEAKER_26: And it's like, this is which is answering the question.
- 2:31:01SPEAKER_26: Which I am glad that Eric from Brainerd.
- 2:31:04SPEAKER_26: I hope that you keep that energy and you believe it's a slam dunk, and you just sit back at home, and every other person that's aligned with you does the exact same thing.
- 2:31:12SPEAKER_30: Just you know Yeah, it's a slam dunk, Eric.
- 2:31:14SPEAKER_30: Yeah, let coast it.
- 2:31:16SPEAKER_26: You don't gotta do, don't make phone calls, don't door knock, just let them come and trounce us, and we'll fight like everything that is within us to try and stop this from happening, this inevitability.
- 2:31:26SPEAKER_26: You know, and I'm sorry, everybody, but you said it again.
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- 2:33:10SPEAKER_28: Several Minnesota counties and cities, including Duluth and Sherburne County, have canceled or paused their contracts with the Flock Safety due to concerns over data privacy and the effectiveness of license plate reading cameras.
- 2:33:24SPEAKER_28: In response, Flock Safety is reducing its default data retention period from 30 days to seven days and introducing a data filter for more control over data sharing.
- 2:33:36SPEAKER_28: While these changes are seen as improvements, uh, the policy, uh the privacy concerns remain.
- 2:33:42SPEAKER_28: I raised this question earlier in the week, and I'm curious with you guys.
- 2:33:45SPEAKER_28: Um, how is it there's nobody involved when they put these flock of cameras in place to do the job of what the citizens have done in calling this out?
- 2:33:55SPEAKER_28: Like there was nobody around that called into question these privacy concerns before they went.
- 2:34:00SPEAKER_28: And spent the money to put them in place.
- 2:34:02SPEAKER_28: You know, I feel like they're doing the right thing because I agree with a lot of the concerns that the citizens have over these cameras.
- 2:34:08SPEAKER_28: It's just one of those circumstances when I was kind of like, couldn't this all have been avoided if there was just somebody that was like, uh, you know, maybe we should, you know, think about this a little further before we go and implement them.
- 2:34:18SPEAKER_28: And I was curious to get your uh your Freedom Friday thoughts this morning.
- 2:34:21SPEAKER_26: Listen, uh, as a guy that understands the way the government typically works, is you just do what you want to and hope that no one really cares.
- 2:34:29SPEAKER_26: When people start to care, that's when you have to start to act like you care too.
- 2:34:33SPEAKER_26: So shout out to all the people that have not let this issue die.
- 2:34:37SPEAKER_26: A lot of things that happen just in our society are about who can basically capture the cultural zeitgeist.
- 2:34:45SPEAKER_26: And right now, the culture hates data centers and flock cameras.
- 2:34:50SPEAKER_26: So yeah, I mean, just kind of address the issues.
- 2:34:54SPEAKER_26: I've I've seen some pushback talking about law enforcement and being able to use this to better do their jobs.
- 2:35:00SPEAKER_26: I just think that most people don't care because of the data concerns, and then you're starting to also see more stories of how law enforcement are abusing these and like stalking people.
- 2:35:11SPEAKER_26: So, yeah, all of all of those concerns.
- 2:35:13SPEAKER_26: But shout out to the people like Cicero underscore MN on X that uh have kept this alive and I think literally having an impact by leading kind of a cultural revolution here.
- 2:35:23SPEAKER_28: By the way, speaking of an impact, you made uh Cicero rather uh well, first off, two things.
- 2:35:28SPEAKER_28: One, happy, and then two, uh famous.
- 2:35:31SPEAKER_28: Because after your mention of him last week, it was all over.
- 2:35:34SPEAKER_28: You got a mention from AK and the John Justice show.
- 2:35:37SPEAKER_28: So, and that was the individual who I had also seen was probably the most outspoken over the flock of cameras uh as uh as well.
- 2:35:45SPEAKER_28: Uh Max, did you want to chime uh chime in on this at all?
- 2:35:47SPEAKER_30: No, it's interesting.
- 2:35:48SPEAKER_30: Like the speed, uh you're right, the speed of adoption from these municipalities to implement flock cameras, like was that was interesting to observe, right?
- 2:35:57SPEAKER_30: Because I know at least locally there were like hearings in North Branch and a couple of other areas about, hey, here's what's going up, here's what they're gonna track.
- 2:36:05SPEAKER_30: I did hear um in defense of flock, not that you'll hear that from from me that often, but um, there was a local game store in Forest Lake up by me, like that sells trading cards and stuff like that that just got robbed uh a couple weeks ago.
- 2:36:19SPEAKER_30: And I was talking to the owner of the store, and they said that they did utilize flock cameras to trace back the robbers back to an apartment with nine people in St.
- 2:36:28SPEAKER_30: Paul.
- 2:36:29SPEAKER_30: And so there's like an applicable use of the cameras, but it gets back to this fundamental idea of freedom or security.
- 2:36:37SPEAKER_30: And if you if you want one or the other, you're not gonna get either, right?
- 2:36:42SPEAKER_30: And I think that's where the flock discussion really centers around why people are uncomfortable with it, is because it feels like you're tracking everybody all the time.
- 2:36:50SPEAKER_30: And Americans, no matter how we change as a country, there is still a rugged individualism, there is still a sense that we have some semblance of privacy, and that's why people are pushing back on it.
- 2:37:02SPEAKER_30: I would love to, I would love to know where Amy Klobuchar stands on on flock cameras.
- 2:37:07SPEAKER_30: It would be interesting if a reporter or if somebody uh who sees uh Amy Klobuchar at her numerous town halls that I know she's going to have ask her, ask her where she stands on flock cameras.
- 2:37:18SPEAKER_30: This is a former prosecutor.
- 2:37:20SPEAKER_28: She was asked um yesterday on a on a different show about her views of uh boys competing in girl sports, and her pivot on it was was stunning.
- 2:37:30SPEAKER_28: She was just like, well, they the individual teams and and uh groups and leagues, they can all decide this for themselves.
- 2:37:36SPEAKER_28: Yeah, they can all, everybody, they can all she didn't have she would not she would not take a stance on it.
- 2:37:40SPEAKER_28: Bring on it bringing up the case.
- 2:37:41SPEAKER_28: Well, can they bring on the debates?
- 2:37:43SPEAKER_30: Can they decide for themselves?
- 2:37:44SPEAKER_30: Because I just read that that the WNBA leadership had a summit where they were trying to determine what a woman was, and like after 12 hours, had to recess because they could not determine what a woman is.
- 2:37:56SPEAKER_12: Yeah, and if you're locally here in the state, the Minnesota State High School League is terrible on this issue and will force you to allow boys to compete in girls' sports.
- 2:38:05SPEAKER_12: The flock camera thing, I will just say, I was up north this past week, and um, I'm a big eavesdropper, you know, when I'm out to eat or whatever, like knowing what's going on around me.
- 2:38:14SPEAKER_12: And all of a sudden I hear flock cameras, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I am way up north Minnesota, and flock cameras are what this table was discussing behind me, which I thought was super interesting because I am like What was the narrative?
- 2:38:25SPEAKER_30: What was the conversation?
- 2:38:26SPEAKER_12: Anti.
- 2:38:27SPEAKER_12: Yep, anti-flock uh devices.
- 2:38:31SPEAKER_12: And yeah, I don't know.
- 2:38:32SPEAKER_12: I was uh maybe it's because I'm a woman, I'm a little more on the like security side than the freedom side.
- 2:38:36SPEAKER_12: I think it's kind of a female impulse, but I don't know.
- 2:38:40SPEAKER_12: Hearing that, I was like, okay, this is an issue that is making it outside of just the online conspiracy circles that I kind of thought was the situation.
- 2:38:48SPEAKER_12: Uh made me rethink my stance a little bit.
- 2:38:50SPEAKER_26: Yeah, I mean, you you've mentioned your authoritarian HOA dream.
- 2:38:55SPEAKER_26: Sure.
- 2:38:55SPEAKER_26: You would have flock on every like every 10 feet, and you would track every breaker of the laws.
- 2:39:03SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
- 2:39:03SPEAKER_12: In my HOA.
- 2:39:04SPEAKER_12: Again, locally.
- 2:39:06SPEAKER_12: I don't want no national.
- 2:39:08SPEAKER_12: President doing this, but I would do it in my neighborhood, yes.
- 2:39:11SPEAKER_28: I want to uh before we switch gears to another topic, I want to go back uh for for just a moment.
- 2:39:17SPEAKER_28: Uh, we were talking about elections, uh, we were talking about ice earlier, uh, much earlier in the show.
- 2:39:22SPEAKER_28: If you missed any portion of today's show, you can check out the podcast.
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- 2:39:30SPEAKER_28: Uh also on across all the major podcast uh platforms.
- 2:39:33SPEAKER_28: And you can watch a replay of the show uh on uh Facebook and on YouTube at Center of the American Experiment.
- 2:39:39SPEAKER_28: For some reason, our X feed went down uh this morning.
- 2:39:42SPEAKER_28: We were too hot for X this morning.
- 2:39:44SPEAKER_28: Yes, they took us off.
- 2:39:45SPEAKER_28: Um But I wanted to I wanted to bring something up briefly.
- 2:39:48SPEAKER_28: I did uh I did like a bit years ago when uh talking about border issues.
- 2:39:54SPEAKER_28: This is when Obama was in office, and I made a comment that we needed to get the Disney Corporation to go and secure our border.
- 2:40:02SPEAKER_28: Because as somebody who grew up in Southern California, to get in like to break into Disneyland is like nigh impossible.
- 2:40:07SPEAKER_28: Like you just can't, you just can't, you just can't, you can't, you absolutely cannot do it.
- 2:40:10SPEAKER_28: Um, and I don't know anybody that ever has.
- 2:40:12SPEAKER_28: You know, it's like trying to steal money from Vegas.
- 2:40:14SPEAKER_28: You're just you're never gonna get away.
- 2:40:15SPEAKER_28: You're never gonna get away with it.
- 2:40:17SPEAKER_28: Well, now at the park, like their whole system for going in, I mean, they scan your fingerprint, they take a photograph of your face right there as you walk in.
- 2:40:26SPEAKER_28: There's a little, and they have it all decorated nice and it's all fancy.
- 2:40:30SPEAKER_28: Right.
- 2:40:30SPEAKER_28: It's got the little argument.
- 2:40:32SPEAKER_28: It's this old bowl, it's like you're looking into the, you know, into the mirror, mirror on the wall.
- 2:40:37SPEAKER_28: You know, and you put your finger on there, it's all thank you so much, and that's the little noises and all that.
- 2:40:41SPEAKER_28: But I'm doing this and I'm going, my gosh, this is what we need for voting.
- 2:40:45SPEAKER_28: You need these same fingerprint, face, match, the whole nine yards.
- 2:40:49SPEAKER_28: Disney corporation needs to handle our election integrity.
- 2:40:52SPEAKER_28: Oh, could you imagine?
- 2:40:53SPEAKER_28: And they need to handle our our border security.
- 2:40:57SPEAKER_12: And my HOA.
- 2:40:58SPEAKER_28: And your HOA.
- 2:40:59SPEAKER_28: And your HOA.
- 2:41:00SPEAKER_30: I'm just envisioning that that goofy, like they have a little display, and the Goofy's like, Gorsh, kids, you want to submit your data?
- 2:41:07SPEAKER_12: They could do the state fair, actually.
- 2:41:10SPEAKER_12: This is a problem they have at the state fair, speaking of the gangs, is like they the the people just hop a fence.
- 2:41:15SPEAKER_12: You know, they've got all these the security measures.
- 2:41:17SPEAKER_27: How you keep valet, valet and muddy.
- 2:41:20SPEAKER_12: But if you just go to the other side, there's just like these fences that they hop over.
- 2:41:24SPEAKER_12: So yeah, we need Disney, Disney to get on.
- 2:41:26SPEAKER_26: Well, that that Disney, and then give them the shock gloves that Ice is gonna be.
- 2:41:31SPEAKER_26: Yeah, talked about this yesterday.
- 2:41:33SPEAKER_30: That's cool.
- 2:41:35SPEAKER_30: Yeah.
- 2:41:35SPEAKER_30: Catherine's like sick.
- 2:41:37SPEAKER_30: I need a pair of those.
- 2:41:38SPEAKER_30: Yeah.
- 2:41:39SPEAKER_26: Are you trying to grow a natural garden?
- 2:41:43SPEAKER_26: So I smelled some raw milk in your house.
- 2:41:47SPEAKER_28: There was a scooter takeover that took place uh last week in uh in Minneapolis, and apparently there were plans to have another one in place this weekend.
- 2:41:56SPEAKER_28: There was just something like some random dude put it up on TikTok.
- 2:41:59SPEAKER_28: I don't think he expected to get the response that he was going to get.
- 2:42:02SPEAKER_28: And just hundreds of individuals showed up.
- 2:42:04SPEAKER_28: They went and they got they purchased the the Lime scooters and then they went and they took over downtown Minneapolis, ended up on I-35.
- 2:42:10SPEAKER_28: Well, it turns out Lime on Wednesday put restrictions in place to prevent another scooter takeover, while banning riders who rode scooters on I-35 last weekend.
- 2:42:22SPEAKER_28: So not only have they basically they put a geofence restriction over downtown Minneapolis to prevent another scooter takeover, and any riders who went and rented one before and were a part of it during that time, they've been banned from going and running them.
- 2:42:37SPEAKER_30: So wait a second.
- 2:42:39SPEAKER_30: Okay, I've been on a lime scooter, I've been a lime scooter connoisseur in different areas of the country.
- 2:42:44SPEAKER_30: You can't park those things in like parking lots.
- 2:42:46SPEAKER_30: It has enough geofencing to make sure you're not parking in a parking lot.
- 2:42:50SPEAKER_30: You're telling me that Lime allowed you to drive on 35W?
- 2:42:55SPEAKER_30: 35W?
- 2:42:57SPEAKER_26: That's insane.
- 2:42:58SPEAKER_26: Yeah, I bet Jason DeRush is super bummed now because you know he he seemed like online he was very pro-scooter takeover.
- 2:43:04SPEAKER_26: Oh, you guys are just being get off my line.
- 2:43:07SPEAKER_26: Like they're just having fun, man.
- 2:43:09SPEAKER_12: See that?
- 2:43:10SPEAKER_26: Yeah, Jason DeRusha, like it's my personal, he's my personal Jason.
- 2:43:15SPEAKER_12: Yeah, that's actually the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
- 2:43:17SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I'm so anti anyone who blocks traffic or any kind of like, you know, imposes on people trying to get somewhere.
- 2:43:23SPEAKER_12: I mean, haul those people to jail immediately.
- 2:43:25SPEAKER_12: You should not be able to do that.
- 2:43:27SPEAKER_28: Look, it here's here's the I guess just uh just a tip for for Jason DeRusha, because you're right.
- 2:43:33SPEAKER_28: It was a whole it was a it was just an atrocious take of the not a big deal, nobody got hurt, and then he took a photograph of himself like, I didn't have my car today, so I'm getting on a lime scooter.
- 2:43:43SPEAKER_28: It's like, dude, it's okay to admit that you had a bad take.
- 2:43:46SPEAKER_28: I do it all the time on the show.
- 2:43:48SPEAKER_28: I did it yesterday for crying out loud.
- 2:43:50SPEAKER_28: I was talking about how there wasn't any need for debates anymore because you already know everything about the candidates you can possibly know through the social media on the way that we consume our news now.
- 2:44:01SPEAKER_28: And I just got I got hammered over it.
- 2:44:04SPEAKER_28: That's a horrible idea.
- 2:44:06SPEAKER_28: What happened with Joe Biden?
- 2:44:07SPEAKER_27: We cannot not have debates.
- 2:44:08SPEAKER_27: That's so dumb.
- 2:44:09SPEAKER_27: It's like, yeah, it's a bad take.
- 2:44:11SPEAKER_27: It's my take.
- 2:44:13SPEAKER_28: It's a bad one.
- 2:44:14SPEAKER_28: Just like my take of splitting up the Super Bowl to run the first half on Saturday night, end with the halftime show, and then run the second half on the same thing for sure.
- 2:44:23SPEAKER_28: Or just that's a bad take.
- 2:44:25SPEAKER_27: Two, it is okay to say that you had a bad take.
- 2:44:29SPEAKER_27: Matrix two and three are good movies.
- 2:44:30SPEAKER_27: Those are their fancy.
- 2:44:33SPEAKER_27: I celebrate the whole trilogy.
- 2:44:35SPEAKER_12: My take is that lime scooters are, I'll use the like PG version, like fruity, like too fruity.
- 2:44:40SPEAKER_12: Like men should not be riding.
- 2:44:41SPEAKER_12: I'm so sorry, Max.
- 2:44:42SPEAKER_12: I just said he rides one.
- 2:44:43SPEAKER_12: I think men should not be riding on these lime scooters.
- 2:44:46SPEAKER_30: So listen, when I've been on lime scooters, I'm like, if there's anybody looking at me right now, I guarantee you I'm giving them the ick.
- 2:44:52SPEAKER_30: Catherine, it's like it's like Catherine is like, I'm I'm in my jeans shorts on a lime scooter, you know, and Catherine's like, oh, I'm gonna throw off.
- 2:45:01SPEAKER_28: So which two-wheeled vehicle?
- 2:45:04SPEAKER_28: Okay, Catherine, which two-wheeled vehicle do you have to arrive upon as a man to where it's socially acceptable for you?
- 2:45:12SPEAKER_28: So like a like a standard sort of, you know, scoot, scoot, scoot, scooter, obviously out.
- 2:45:16SPEAKER_28: Lime scooter is out.
- 2:45:17SPEAKER_28: I imagine a moped's probably out, right?
- 2:45:21SPEAKER_12: Out.
- 2:45:21SPEAKER_12: First of all, unless you're like, I don't know, European, I guess, maybe there's some exceptions.
- 2:45:24SPEAKER_28: But first of all, I do want to check out wheeled vehicle, it's fit meets your standard.
- 2:45:29SPEAKER_12: Propelling yourself is better, okay?
- 2:45:31SPEAKER_12: There's something particularly fruity about doing zero work and just gliding.
- 2:45:35SPEAKER_12: Of course.
- 2:45:36SPEAKER_12: It's better to be propelled.
- 2:45:37SPEAKER_28: The razor scooter's fine.
- 2:45:39SPEAKER_12: Still bad.
- 2:45:40SPEAKER_12: Uh no, you need four wheels.
- 2:45:41SPEAKER_12: No two wheels.
- 2:45:43SPEAKER_12: Four plus.
- 2:45:43SPEAKER_27: What about like a motorcycle?
- 2:45:45SPEAKER_27: But yeah, what a motorcycle.
- 2:45:46SPEAKER_12: Ah, okay.
- 2:45:47SPEAKER_12: But mine, not my deal, though.
- 2:45:49SPEAKER_12: I'm just like not a huge fan of the motorcycle.
- 2:45:51SPEAKER_12: Like, why do you want to die so badly?
- 2:45:53SPEAKER_26: That's what I'm saying.
- 2:45:54SPEAKER_26: Think about me, all right?
- 2:45:56SPEAKER_26: For with my stature, if I pulled up on a crotch rocket, I would look ridiculous, right?
- 2:46:01SPEAKER_26: It's just it's not my fit.
- 2:46:03SPEAKER_26: Uh, I'd have to drive like a big, like Harley, wide, you know, be wearing some like leather or something.
- 2:46:08SPEAKER_26: But if you put me on a little crotch rocket and I'm all hunched over, you would laugh.
- 2:46:12SPEAKER_26: You'd be like, mommy, why is that man look so funny on that?
- 2:46:15SPEAKER_26: Same with the lime scooter.
- 2:46:16SPEAKER_26: I'm too big for a lime scooter.
- 2:46:18SPEAKER_26: I'd look preposterous on a lime scooter.
- 2:46:20SPEAKER_26: So I gotta walk, take a lift.
- 2:46:22SPEAKER_26: Uh, yeah, I just can't do it.
- 2:46:24SPEAKER_26: Now, if I had a hoverboard, that would be cool.
- 2:46:27SPEAKER_26: Like a literal reel.
- 2:46:28SPEAKER_26: Zero wheels.
- 2:46:29SPEAKER_26: Yeah, I'm saying like from Back to the Future, too, right?
- 2:46:32SPEAKER_26: I uh they don't exist yet.
- 2:46:34SPEAKER_28: But when they do, then it's been so it's been so long, and we got through the whole show.
- 2:46:41SPEAKER_28: We got so, so there are multiple points in this episode where that could have been used.
- 2:46:47SPEAKER_28: You could absolutely rock a Harley.
- 2:46:50SPEAKER_28: Uh, if you've anybody that ever seen uh one of my favorite movies, Armageddon, there's a moment when they're trying to gather up all of Bruce Willis's mining team and they've spread all across the country, and there's one really big black dude that's in the group and he's bombing down the highway on a Harley.
- 2:47:06SPEAKER_28: He's like, go get Papa Bear! That's totally you.
- 2:47:10SPEAKER_28: You could absolutely do that.
- 2:47:11SPEAKER_28: Yeah.
- 2:47:12SPEAKER_28: Yeah.
- 2:47:12SPEAKER_28: I could see you on a Harley, Catherine.
- 2:47:14SPEAKER_28: Oh, yeah.
- 2:47:15SPEAKER_28: I could see, I could see you.
- 2:47:16SPEAKER_28: I could see you rocking a Harley.
- 2:47:17SPEAKER_28: I have a scooter-related story to share with you.
- 2:47:20SPEAKER_28: No, I reckon.
- 2:47:21SPEAKER_28: I'm not on a Harley.
- 2:47:22SPEAKER_28: I can see you on a line.
- 2:47:23SPEAKER_28: You're a lion scooter, dude.
- 2:47:24SPEAKER_26: I know you are.
- 2:47:25SPEAKER_26: You're 100%.
- 2:47:26SPEAKER_26: You're Suzuki Kawasaki.
- 2:47:27SPEAKER_26: You're 100%.
- 2:47:28SPEAKER_27: I'm lime scootering.
- 2:47:29SPEAKER_27: Yeah.
- 2:47:30SPEAKER_27: I can I'll take it.
- 2:47:31SPEAKER_12: I'm trying to be better for you, Max, than a live scooter.
- 2:47:34SPEAKER_12: Thank you.
- 2:47:35SPEAKER_23: I think you're not going to be a good one.
- 2:47:35SPEAKER_23: But I don't care.
- 2:47:36SPEAKER_28: I don't know if I could see you on any two-wheeled vehicle.
- 2:47:38SPEAKER_23: No, the center of gravity would be too high.
- 2:47:40SPEAKER_28: Yeah.
- 2:47:40SPEAKER_28: You're too, you're too, you're too tall of an individual.
- 2:47:42SPEAKER_28: I don't think that would that would work very well.
- 2:47:46SPEAKER_28: So I do have a scooter-related story.
- 2:47:48SPEAKER_28: Oh, good.
- 2:47:48SPEAKER_28: Yeah.
- 2:47:49SPEAKER_28: Uh, this comes out of a St.
- 2:47:50SPEAKER_28: Anne, Missouri.
- 2:47:51SPEAKER_28: All right.
- 2:47:51SPEAKER_28: It was first caught on video from an officer's dash cam.
- 2:47:55SPEAKER_28: Investigators say officers uh spotted one Haran Brooks riding an electric scooter, speeding with no lights, and then passing a car on the left.
- 2:48:04SPEAKER_28: So he was hauling.
- 2:48:05SPEAKER_28: They say he was driving around cars, you know, into oncoming cars, just driving aggressively and crazy, said the deputy commander from the St.
- 2:48:12SPEAKER_28: Anne Police Department.
- 2:48:13SPEAKER_28: Police tried to pull him over, but they say the fast scooter riding suspect refused to stop.
- 2:48:19SPEAKER_28: We found out later that he had just gotten released from jail about two weeks ago.
- 2:48:23SPEAKER_28: So I'm assuming he didn't want to go back to jail.
- 2:48:25SPEAKER_28: Officers finally caught Brooks uh near a couple of avenues.
- 2:48:29SPEAKER_28: They searched him and they say they found a pipe in a container of what they believe was methamphetamine.
- 2:48:33SPEAKER_28: Oh surprise, surprise.
- 2:48:35SPEAKER_28: Oh, the story keeps going.
- 2:48:36SPEAKER_28: Stop moving, stop moving, could be heard as an officer shouted to Brooks in the video police shared with the local five on your side.
- 2:48:45SPEAKER_28: What was supposed to be a routine arrest gave the St.
- 2:48:48SPEAKER_28: Anne officer a sudden scare.
- 2:48:50SPEAKER_28: I'm not digging for nothing, the suspect shouted to the officers in the video.
- 2:48:55SPEAKER_28: You could then hear the female officer scream, Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.
- 2:49:00SPEAKER_28: The suspect's eyes got really big when he saw the officer opening up his drug container.
- 2:49:04SPEAKER_28: He went to swat it away from the officers trying to destroy the evidence.
- 2:49:08SPEAKER_28: That's when the meth flew out of the bag and straight into the law enforcement officer's mouth.
- 2:49:13SPEAKER_28: Oh no.
- 2:49:15SPEAKER_28: The officer was treated at the scene and at the hospital.
- 2:49:19SPEAKER_28: Thankfully, she's okay.
- 2:49:20SPEAKER_28: In fact, she was back on the job the next day.
- 2:49:22SPEAKER_28: I guess the question is, didn't they?
- 2:49:25SPEAKER_28: She made a lot of arrests.
- 2:49:27SPEAKER_28: Did they swallow it?
- 2:49:27SPEAKER_28: I mean, I'm assuming they didn't swallow it.
- 2:49:29SPEAKER_28: She said it freaked her out more than anything.
- 2:49:31SPEAKER_28: We're just glad that she was okay.
- 2:49:33SPEAKER_28: Uh, he has a history of felony convictions in other states, by the way.
- 2:49:36SPEAKER_28: Yeah, so uh he was on bond for an unlawful firearm and possession.
- 2:49:41SPEAKER_28: Uh the convicted felon now faces the charges including second-degree assault and resisting arrest.
- 2:49:46SPEAKER_28: So, regardless of where the um officers are, we thank them for their work because what a horrible experience to could you imagine?
- 2:49:54SPEAKER_28: It's like when you swallow a fly.
- 2:49:56SPEAKER_28: What could happen?
- 2:49:57SPEAKER_12: But it's meth.
- 2:49:59SPEAKER_28: It's very scary.
- 2:50:00SPEAKER_12: I'm sorry, did that start with him being on a scooter?
- 2:50:02SPEAKER_28: Yeah.
- 2:50:02SPEAKER_12: Okay.
- 2:50:02SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
- 2:50:03SPEAKER_28: That was a big thing.
- 2:50:03SPEAKER_12: So the flock cameras didn't pick up the scooters.
- 2:50:05SPEAKER_12: They don't know what anything else.
- 2:50:06SPEAKER_28: That must have been a really few.
- 2:50:07SPEAKER_28: I mean, if he's passing cars and stuff, that had to be a pretty quick.
- 2:50:10SPEAKER_28: That had to be a fast power on that screen.
- 2:50:12SPEAKER_28: A fast scooter.
- 2:50:14SPEAKER_28: Um, I have another somewhat related story.
- 2:50:17SPEAKER_28: This one uh comes out of a Port Orchard, uh, Washington.
- 2:50:21SPEAKER_28: Uh, a strange arson case in Kitsap County, captured on home video, showing a man driving a golf cart with a dog and carrying two torches as investigators say he set fire that destroyed a home and detached a garage.
- 2:50:34SPEAKER_28: Yikes.
- 2:50:36SPEAKER_28: Authorities have charged the 47-year-old Sean Henson with first-degree arson and second-degree assault.
- 2:50:41SPEAKER_28: The ring camera recorded the alleged incident and say the homeowner said an alert from the camera helped save his life and his son as they received a notification and were woken up.
- 2:50:51SPEAKER_28: The neighbor said he was stunned by what he saw.
- 2:50:54SPEAKER_28: Uh, the court documents identified the driver as Hinson, who was seen next to a corgi and holding two torches, including a weed torch.
- 2:51:03SPEAKER_28: This is not the kind of behavior that I would expect anybody that owns a corgi to do.
- 2:51:08SPEAKER_28: No, very anti-corgible.
- 2:51:10SPEAKER_12: Well, it's a weed torch.
- 2:51:11SPEAKER_28: Oh, the weed, so weed torches, I guess.
- 2:51:13SPEAKER_28: Yeah, I guess we wouldn't be familiar, you wouldn't be familiar with them here.
- 2:51:16SPEAKER_28: So in dry uh states where you don't have a lot of lawns and a lot of people do rock lawns, especially like in Arizona.
- 2:51:22SPEAKER_28: So when the weeds pop up, they actually have torches that you can go instead of going and yanking them out, you go and you torch the you torch the weeds as they come up.
- 2:51:29SPEAKER_28: It's really funny.
- 2:51:30SPEAKER_28: Wow.
- 2:51:30SPEAKER_12: Okay.
- 2:51:31SPEAKER_12: I was thinking like marijuana.
- 2:51:32SPEAKER_30: So it was funny that the corgi is part of the story.
- 2:51:35SPEAKER_30: You know that corgi is just sitting there going, like, I'm really happy to be here.
- 2:51:39SPEAKER_30: Well, I don't know what's going on.
- 2:51:41SPEAKER_27: Corgies are like really, I mean, they're like really expensive.
- 2:51:44SPEAKER_27: Are they?
- 2:51:44SPEAKER_28: Yeah.
- 2:51:44SPEAKER_28: I mean, like corgies are like a that's a prized, that's a I mean, at least as far as I'm concerned, that's like a prize doggy to get.
- 2:51:50SPEAKER_28: Like, you got a corgi.
- 2:51:51SPEAKER_28: It's like you must be doing all right.
- 2:51:52SPEAKER_30: Yeah, that dog did not know he was an accomplice to a crime.
- 2:51:55SPEAKER_30: He was he was just going, I love my owner.
- 2:51:58SPEAKER_30: I love going for drives.
- 2:51:59SPEAKER_30: What what what is this really warm thing in the back of the house?
- 2:52:02SPEAKER_26: Was this a random act of arson or was this like some like neighbor beef and he finally had enough?
- 2:52:07SPEAKER_26: He's like, I guess we're gonna kill this family.
- 2:52:09SPEAKER_28: Well, in court filings, um Henson said he had uh ingested some edibles and then uh he downed them with Jack Daniels.
- 2:52:18SPEAKER_12: I knew there was marijuana involved.
- 2:52:19SPEAKER_12: Okay.
- 2:52:19SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
- 2:52:24SPEAKER_28: Yeah.
- 2:52:24SPEAKER_28: Uh they said that um the responding deputy alleged in the same filings and Henson was unable to maintain clear, uh, a clear and direct conversation.
- 2:52:32SPEAKER_28: Uh the video captured by neighbors who lived across the street uh said he uh so one individual went and went to go pound on the neighbor's door to warn him, the homeowner who asked not to be identified um in the phone interview because he ended up setting fire to the house and it ended up destroying his brand new car.
- 2:52:49SPEAKER_28: He said everything is gone, bathroom, kitchen, house.
- 2:52:51SPEAKER_28: There used to be a comfortable couch to sit on and look out the window, and it's all gone.
- 2:52:56SPEAKER_28: What a tragedy, just because a guy got all hopped up on marijuana and Jack Daniels.
- 2:53:00SPEAKER_26: That's crazy.
- 2:53:01SPEAKER_26: But listen, these are the dangers of having psychotic induced episodes by THC.
- 2:53:08SPEAKER_26: Like people, they joke and they laugh, like, oh man, it's a safe drug.
- 2:53:12SPEAKER_26: For some people, literally causes psychotic breaks.
- 2:53:14SPEAKER_26: Someone literally just had some alcohol with some weed and decided I'm gonna go kill people.
- 2:53:20SPEAKER_26: There's no way that in their mind they didn't think that there were human beings in there, they just probably thought they had to die.
- 2:53:25SPEAKER_30: Which and this is why it's important to really vet the gummies that you are taking.
- 2:53:29SPEAKER_30: And one thing I can say is that we don't know what type of gummy this guy was taking, but I can say for sure that it was not a mini leaf gummy because a mini leaf gummy is high quality.
- 2:53:40SPEAKER_30: And John, I'm I'm John's not even paying attention.
- 2:53:43SPEAKER_30: I'm absolutely listening.
- 2:53:44SPEAKER_30: Trying to give him a pump.
- 2:53:46SPEAKER_30: I'm pumping an advertiser here, and John is like falling asleep.
- 2:53:49SPEAKER_30: Nope, nope, I'm I want to.
- 2:53:50SPEAKER_28: I guess I'll stop.
- 2:53:51SPEAKER_28: I want to sneak in some uh some blasts, so please continue.
- 2:53:55SPEAKER_30: Mini leaf is great.
- 2:53:56SPEAKER_30: Mini leaf would not cause you to go on raucous episodes where you're trying to burn people's houses down.
- 2:54:00SPEAKER_30: So you are absolutely correct then.
- 2:54:02SPEAKER_28: All of the Mini Leaf products are third-party tested, and all the results are available online.
- 2:54:07SPEAKER_28: And I I do, I swear by the uh I swear by the night gummies.
- 2:54:09SPEAKER_28: Uh absolutely M-I-N-N-E-L-E-A-F.com.
- 2:54:12SPEAKER_28: I was paying attention, but there's a lot of comments that rolled in.
- 2:54:15SPEAKER_28: So um, before we close out of Freedom Friday, let's go ahead and do a bit of a lightning round and we can respond to uh several of you who have left a blast to 612-584-4565.
- 2:54:25SPEAKER_28: We'll start with Greg first here on the John Justice Show, presented by American Experiment.
- 2:54:32SPEAKER_19: Good to see you back on the air.
- 2:54:34SPEAKER_19: I'm Greg Raffle.
- 2:54:36SPEAKER_19: I don't know if anybody wants the numbers from the primary, but uh any cards are not over 200,000 votes.
- 2:54:48SPEAKER_19: Yeah, what's the primary?
- 2:54:50SPEAKER_19: But if we don't have over 200,000 uh Republicans or concerns come out for the November election, we will be told.
- 2:54:59SPEAKER_28: So we talked about this um earlier in the show, and I'll just kind of repeat what I said earlier in the show.
- 2:55:04SPEAKER_28: When you actually look at the numbers, and uh feel free to add into the in into any of this as after I'm done with my rant here.
- 2:55:10SPEAKER_28: When you look into the numbers, this was a record-breaking turnout for both parties.
- 2:55:16SPEAKER_28: That being said, this was definitely a record-breaking primary turnout for the GOP over previous years, where in the DFL, they were actually lower turnout numbers than what we've seen in some recent years.
- 2:55:29SPEAKER_28: That gap always exists.
- 2:55:31SPEAKER_28: And so it doesn't mean that the GOP doesn't need to try to increase his turnout machine.
- 2:55:36SPEAKER_28: We've been talking about that all morning long.
- 2:55:38SPEAKER_28: But to look at those primary numbers and begin to sort of get worried or concerned, understand this is actually, it sounds counterintuitive, but a good sign that there were this many Republicans that turned out in the primary, despite the difference in the number of Democrats who came out versus uh Republicans.
- 2:55:57SPEAKER_28: And again, just to reiterate when you're
- 2:56:00SPEAKER_26: Looking at the numbers, when you look at a Republican primary voter versus the base, we'll call that the base of the Republican Party and the base of Democrats as a percentage.
- 2:56:08SPEAKER_26: Democrats have a larger base.
- 2:56:10SPEAKER_26: So you're always going to see a larger percentage turnout for the primary.
- 2:56:14SPEAKER_26: But you just made the point.
- 2:56:16SPEAKER_26: The turnout is way higher than ever expected for a midterm election, which means that the base is super fired up.
- 2:56:23SPEAKER_26: But yeah, you can't compare those numbers.
- 2:56:25SPEAKER_26: It literally, anyone that has taken a political science class is going to tell you they're not comparable because there's just a larger core base of Democrat voters that say, I will vote Democrat no matter what, and Republican voters.
- 2:56:38SPEAKER_26: We already know that.
- 2:56:38SPEAKER_26: What we were hoping to see was enthusiasm on the right, and enthusiasm is there.
- 2:56:44SPEAKER_28: Let's get to a few more thoughts before we close uh the show out uh this morning.
- 2:56:48SPEAKER_28: And I lost my oh, here we go.
- 2:56:50SPEAKER_28: We'll start uh here on the blaster line.
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- 2:57:28SPEAKER_28: Let's hear from Victor.
- 2:57:30SPEAKER_10: Good morning, John and Cruz.
- 2:57:32SPEAKER_10: I love how every time Max says, oh, I've done this before.
- 2:57:38SPEAKER_10: Catherine comes out and is like, that's the worst.
- 2:57:41SPEAKER_10: I can't believe you.
- 2:57:42SPEAKER_10: That's so disgusting.
- 2:57:44SPEAKER_10: Love it.
- 2:57:46SPEAKER_30: I'm repulsive to Catherine.
- 2:57:49SPEAKER_12: It has happened a couple times lately.
- 2:57:51SPEAKER_30: I have nobody to impress anymore.
- 2:57:53SPEAKER_30: Listen, I uh I'm not on the market.
- 2:57:55SPEAKER_30: I never will be.
- 2:57:56SPEAKER_30: I'm gonna wear my jean shorts.
- 2:57:58SPEAKER_30: I'm gonna fly around in a lime scooter.
- 2:58:00SPEAKER_30: I might even take it on 35W.
- 2:58:02SPEAKER_30: Let's see what happens.
- 2:58:03SPEAKER_12: And I respect his right to do so.
- 2:58:05SPEAKER_12: We just might live in different HOAs.
- 2:58:07SPEAKER_28: Uh let's go here.
- 2:58:09SPEAKER_03: Somebody please make a meme of AK on a crotch rocket.
- 2:58:13SPEAKER_03: It will make my day.
- 2:58:15SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
- 2:58:16SPEAKER_28: That could be like the new elf on the shelf on the shelf, AK on a crotch rocket.
- 2:58:23SPEAKER_26: No one wants to see that, my friends.
- 2:58:24SPEAKER_26: And that's purely for comedic purposes.
- 2:58:27SPEAKER_28: All right.
- 2:58:27SPEAKER_28: Listen, that wraps up uh our Freedom of Friday edition here at uh Center of the American Experiment and the John Justice uh show.
- 2:58:35SPEAKER_28: Before I go through my uh closing comments, we can go around the room.
- 2:58:39SPEAKER_28: Uh Catherine Johnson, anything that you would uh like to mention?
- 2:58:41SPEAKER_28: I know we got our fall briefing coming up with uh Byron York on September 19th.
- 2:58:46SPEAKER_28: I encourage everybody to head on over to AmericanExperiment.org to get details on that.
- 2:58:49SPEAKER_12: Yeah, it's a great event, a lot of fun.
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- 2:59:19SPEAKER_28: Yeah, they can they are those checks coming to me or are those not directly.
- 2:59:24SPEAKER_12: Oh, okay.
- 2:59:24SPEAKER_28: So indirectly, right?
- 2:59:26SPEAKER_28: Yeah, we can get me a kidney-shaped table.
- 2:59:28SPEAKER_28: Yes.
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- 2:59:34SPEAKER_30: Uh Representative Max Reimer, thank you for having me.
- 2:59:37SPEAKER_30: Great Freedom Friday.
- 2:59:38SPEAKER_30: Like I like I said before, we had talked about uh Eric Pratt running for Congress.
- 2:59:43SPEAKER_30: Uh, the only plug that I would give is go take a look at his campaign and go support that guy any way you can because we've got a real shot on that one.
- 2:59:50SPEAKER_26: Uh aka Kamara, RNC committeeman.
- 2:59:52SPEAKER_26: Indeed.
- 2:59:53SPEAKER_26: If you can follow me on X, Instagram, and Facebook at real aK Kamara.
- 2:59:57SPEAKER_26: And if you have any suggestions, uh, we are hosting my 14-year-old niece's birthday party and she's gonna have like a dozen uh other 14-year-olds.
- 3:00:04SPEAKER_26: Uh, if you have suggestions of types of food or things that 14-year-olds like to do these days, someone told me dirty sodas is a thing, so I think we're gonna like do some of that.
- 3:00:13SPEAKER_26: But uh yeah, go on X, follow me, and shoot me a DM or even a reply of what you think your 14-year-old kids like to do, and then pray for me because that's that's uh I I don't know why they wanted to come over to our place, but that's what they wanted to do.
- 3:00:27SPEAKER_28: Oh, I thought it was just like a general statement, just like you know what?
- 3:00:30SPEAKER_27: And pray for me to pray for them, yeah.
- 3:00:32SPEAKER_27: You know, throw some prayers.
- 3:00:33SPEAKER_27: Good applause.
- 3:00:34SPEAKER_27: Some prayers by way.
- 3:00:34SPEAKER_28: Yeah, that's I'll throw up some prayers for you today as well.
- 3:00:38SPEAKER_28: Uh Isaac of Isaac's Bathhouse Emporium.
- 3:00:40SPEAKER_28: Anything you want to mention, my friend?
- 3:00:41SPEAKER_28: Nothing much.
- 3:00:42SPEAKER_28: All right.
- 3:00:43SPEAKER_28: Just run out his bathhouse.
- 3:00:44SPEAKER_28: Yep.
- 3:00:44SPEAKER_28: Just do my thing.
- 3:00:46SPEAKER_12: Everyone pray for me after this episode because AK has been drinking this like grape.
- 3:00:50SPEAKER_12: What is this?
- 3:00:51SPEAKER_12: Yeah, what is that?
- 3:00:52SPEAKER_26: This is hopefully sponsored one day.
- 3:00:54SPEAKER_26: Uh Ghost Welch.
- 3:00:56SPEAKER_26: Okay.
- 3:00:56SPEAKER_26: It literally tastes like the Welch grape juice from your childhood if you are an elder millennial like myself.
- 3:01:02SPEAKER_26: Okay.
- 3:01:02SPEAKER_26: And uh has 300 milligrams of caffeine, and they are delicious.
- 3:01:05SPEAKER_12: It's the scent of the fake grape has been wafting this direction for hours now.
- 3:01:12SPEAKER_28: It tastes so good.
- 3:01:14SPEAKER_28: All right, there you go.
- 3:01:15SPEAKER_28: Pray for me as well.
- 3:01:15SPEAKER_12: Free plug.
- 3:01:16SPEAKER_12: And my headache.
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- 3:02:03SPEAKER_28: God bless.
- 3:02:04SPEAKER_28: I'll talk to you guys on Monday.
- 3:02:05SPEAKER_28: Bye.
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