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You need to touch it to taste it · Sips, Suds, & Smokes

• 0:00
  > Announcer>On the next episode of Sips, Suds.
• 0:02
  > Kendall>And smokes, the 15 pumpkin beers.
• 0:05
  > Kendall>We'll be tasting our pumpkinhead wheat ale with pumpkin spices, the Kentucky pumpkin Barrel ale, Schlafly Brewing's pumpkin ale, the pumpkin imperial pumpkin Ale from Southern Tier, and also their caramel version of the pumpkin imperial Pumpkin ale, the Warlock, Imperial Pumpkin Stoutenhouse, night owl pumpkin ale, Sam Adams, Jack o Pumpkin Ale, the Harvest Ale, the spice walla pumpkin latte, ten w 40 Imperial Stout, the frog hollow double pumpkin ale, Rogale's pumpkin patch ale brewed with roasted pumpkins, voodoo ranger, atomic pumpkin, spicy fat bottoms, Jackie pumpkin ale and nitro pumpkin spice latte. Pumpkin ale with spices and coffee.
• 0:53
  > Announcer>We'll be right back after this break, brought to you almost live from the dude in the basement studios. Why? Cause that's where the good stuff is. It sits. Suds and smokes with your smokin host, the good old boys.
• 1:49
  > Julianna>Suds.
• 1:50
  > Kendall>Suds. Suds.
• 1:52
  > Announcer>It's time for more suds.
• 1:56
  > Julianna>Welcome, everyone, to another Suds segment where when we remember when you tell, when you could tell autumn was on the way. When the days started to get a bit shorter, the leaves started to change, but now you know it's on the way when the frickin pumpkin beers have been out for a month. I can't believe I just said that. I'm one of your hosts. Good ogaw, Julianna. And joining me today at the table is good old boy Kendall.
• 2:24
  > Kendall>Hello. How are you?
• 2:25
  > Julianna>Thanks so much for being here.
• 2:27
  > Kendall>Yeah, it was, um. I was trying to get Covid, but that didn't work.
• 2:31
  > Julianna>So I'm here trying to get Covid the lengths our co hosts will go to avoid me.
• 2:39
  > Kendall>It would have been maybe better than what we're about to do, but we'll see.
• 2:45
  > Julianna>Optimistic at least.
• 2:47
  > Dave>He would have lost his sense of taste, right?
• 2:50
  > Announcer>I thought that happened a long time ago.
• 2:56
  > Kendall>Sorry.
• 2:56
  > Julianna>Yeah. Hey, good old boy. Drew, what's shaking?
• 3:00
  > Kendall>Um.
• 3:00
  > Announcer>Um, soon to be my, uh, uh, blood sugar level after I consume all the, uh, uh, the small amounts of pumpkin and large amounts of, uh, uh, sugar. Yeah, I'm anticipating. Yes. Thank you. Diabetic shock incoming.
• 3:15
  > Julianna>Yes, yes, yes. Good boy, Dave.
• 3:18
  > Julianna>Hello.
• 3:18
  > Dave>Wet dream.
• 3:19
  > Julianna>Tomato.
• 3:22
  > Announcer>Huh uh, yeah.
• 3:25
  > Dave>Huh uh, that just happened.
• 3:27
  > Julianna>Wow.
• 3:27
  > Kendall>Wow.
• 3:28
  > Julianna>That did just happen.
• 3:29
  > Julianna>Okay, well, around this time of year, every year, we try to do a show featuring seasonal beers.
• 3:38
  > Julianna>Some years it's fest beers. Some years, it's fresh hop beers.
• 3:44
  > Julianna>But this year, well, good old boy Dave was in charge.
• 3:49
  > Julianna>So good ol boy Dave decided to extend his questionable decision making. Just a little bit further than usual, in case it couldn't get any further than usual.
• 4:01
  > Julianna>So we're drinking pumpkin beers this year, and I use the term pumpkin beer loosely because I'm not certain some of these beers have pumpkin anywhere other than in the name or on the can.
• 4:16
  > Announcer>And are they beer?
• 4:18
  > Julianna>That's right.
• 4:20
  > Dave>Well, we have a cicerone here, so he can tell us.
• 4:23
  > Julianna>Well, fair. Fair.
• 4:24
  > Julianna>Okay, so, good old boy. Kendall, why don't you give us the awesome lineup for today?
• 4:31
  > Dave>Sure.
• 4:32
  > Kendall>The 15, and I said 15 pumpkin beers will be tasting and discussing.
• 4:38
  > Announcer>Send help.
• 4:38
  > Kendall>Today are from shipyard in Portland, Maine, pumpkin head weed ale with pumpkin spices from Lexington Brewing and distilling. In Lexington, Kentucky.
• 4:47
  > Kendall>The Kentucky pumpkin barrel ale from our friends in St. Louis, Schlafly Brewing's Pumpkin ale from Lakewood, New York. We have three contenders. The pumpkin imperial pumpkin ale from southern tier and also their caramel version of the pumpkin imperial pumpkin ale. And we also have, uh, the warlock imperial pumpkin stout. Looks a little bit different than the rest. I like that one. Let's see here. We've got elysian brewings, uh, out of Seattle. The night owl pumpkin ale from Boston Beer, and, um, Boston, Mass. Sam Adams Jack o pumpkin ale from Frog alley brewing in Schenectady to York, the harvest ale from Asheville, North Carolina's high wire, the spice walla pumpkin latte. Ten w 40 imperial stout.
• 5:36
  > Julianna>Wow.
• 5:37
  > Kendall>That's a lot of words. That is from Akron, Ohio's hopping frog, the frog hollow double pumpkin ale. In Newport, Oregon, we have rogue ale's pumpkin patch ale brewed with roasted pumpkins. Fort Collin and Asheville's new belgian brewing, we have the voodoo ranger atomic pumpkin.
• 5:55
  > Kendall>Spicy.
• 5:57
  > Announcer>Is it the bomb?
• 5:58
  > Kendall>From our hometown of Nashville, Tennessee, fat bottoms Jackie Pumpkin ale. Longmont, California's left hand brewing's nitro pumpkin spice latte. Pumpkin ale with spices and coffee and.
• 6:11
  > Dave>Wow, two lattes. Yeah, that's a lot. A latte.
• 6:17
  > Julianna>Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
• 6:20
  > Julianna>And, um, you know, another fun fact for this episode is that we are covering coast to coast. We do have, you know, we're representing the east coast, and we're representing that.
• 6:33
  > Dave>West coast, too, because everyone everywhere makes bad decisions.
• 6:38
  > Julianna>True. Very true. Okay, good old boy.
• 6:42
  > Julianna>Drew, why don't you hit us with the ratings for today?
• 6:46
  > Announcer>We'll be discussing and rating these questionable pumpkin beers with the suds ratings. Plus our signature belching sounds. Here are those ratings. Now, one. That sucks. Give me anything but another pumpkin beer. Unfortunately, there's 15 more. Two. Was that a belch? Hard to tell. With all the pumpkin spice in the air, it's beginning to smell a lot. Light burping. Three.
• 7:13
  > Announcer>Ah, what a relief. It'll be another four years before that sob day makes us do this again. We can hope.
• 7:18
  > Julianna>Yes.
• 7:20
  > Announcer>Four. A body should really not make the sound of a ripe pumpkin when you thump it.
• 7:26
  > Announcer>Impressive. Uh, five. Listen to that. Hangtime. Give me some malort to wash this taste out of my mouth.
• 7:38
  > Julianna>What a palate cleanser.
• 7:39
  > Kendall>Absolutely. I would rather drink Malort than pumpkin beers any day.
• 7:43
  > Dave>I almost bought a bottle of Malort the other day.
• 7:46
  > Kendall>Oh, please. Let's. Yeah, let's do a m Malort show.
• 7:49
  > Dave>Okay, just wait.
• 7:50
  > Julianna>There's more than one?
• 7:51
  > Dave>Just drink it over and over.
• 7:52
  > Kendall>But we can just drink it over and over.
• 7:54
  > Announcer>You could put cicadas in some of it.
• 7:56
  > Dave>Just mix malort into stuff.
• 7:58
  > Kendall>Hey, there's a new book about Malort out. Is it really from our, um, friend Josh? I think it's Josh Knoll, the, uh, former Chicago tram. Um, I think maybe. Tribune writer. Yeah, I don't really remember, but he's. Yes, yes, Tribune. But he's, uh, he's got a new book. I don't know if it's out or coming out, but it's gonna be all about Mallorc, which I'm really excited to read.
• 8:17
  > Julianna>Wow. Maybe that would help explain a lot.
• 8:20
  > Kendall>Yeah.
• 8:21
  > Julianna>Anyways. Okay, are we ready?
• 8:24
  > Announcer>No.
• 8:24
  > Announcer>Can we talk about Malort some more?
• 8:25
  > Dave>Well, explain the premise.
• 8:28
  > Julianna>Okay, so we already know that there may be some pumpkins involved. We already know that there may be some lactose involved, and we already know that there's going to be some spices involved.
• 8:42
  > Julianna>So I thought it would be cool to do a blind tasting because we already know what it is.
• 8:50
  > Julianna>So, um. Um. And there may or may not be a curveball thrown in two. But, um, I, um, have the list, and we are going to proceed from a to.
• 9:05
  > Julianna>Okay, so let's get started with a, folks.
• 9:13
  > Announcer>It's pretty. It's got a nice, creamy head.
• 9:16
  > Announcer>Golden brown.
• 9:17
  > Dave>Drew's afraid to touch it. You have to pick it up. Drew, you have to pick up the cup.
• 9:20
  > Announcer>Oh, no, I already. I already tried that one.
• 9:23
  > Julianna>Uh, okay, the color is, dare I say, maybe a little bit on the light side of things for pumpkin life.
• 9:31
  > Kendall>Yeah, kind of a low amber, deep, deep gold.
• 9:34
  > Julianna>Yeah.
• 9:35
  > Kendall>Looks great. Yeah, that's about all I can say about it.
• 9:38
  > Julianna>The smell isn't overpowering, obnoxious, right? I said smell.
• 9:44
  > Announcer>Smell.
• 9:44
  > Dave>I know the smells. But the smell tells you what's coming, though.
• 9:48
  > Kendall>Mmm.
• 9:48
  > Julianna>Yeah, but we know coming.
• 9:51
  > Julianna>Well, there's no way of getting around this.
• 9:53
  > Announcer>On the note of what's coming, I've cheated and moved ahead a little bit. Oh, this one's great, Kendall.
• 9:58
  > Kendall>Really?
• 9:59
  > Announcer>Oh, yeah.
• 10:00
  > Kendall>No, I don't like that we had.
• 10:02
  > Dave>To stick with one at a time.
• 10:05
  > Announcer>Sorry. Sorry.
• 10:06
  > Julianna>Okay.
• 10:06
  > Dave>All right. So, Kendall, what is the primary thing you're tasting right now?
• 10:10
  > Kendall>Just a lot of that pumpkin spice overdone pumpkin spice. It's just overwhelming.
• 10:16
  > Dave>I was gonna say bile, but no.
• 10:19
  > Announcer>On the front of the palate, not the back.
• 10:21
  > Dave>Gorge is rising.
• 10:24
  > Julianna>Okay. So from a girly perspective on this, it's. It's pleasant because it's smooth.
• 10:32
  > Julianna>Okay.
• 10:34
  > Kendall>It is smooth. I'll give you that.
• 10:36
  > Dave>Uh, I mean, it slides right in. It's gonna slide right out.
• 10:40
  > Announcer>It's not sickly sweet.
• 10:41
  > Julianna>No.
• 10:42
  > Kendall>Compared to some, no, it's not overly sweet at all. Maybe. I think some of the sweetness would maybe balance out some of that overwhelming spice.
• 10:49
  > Julianna>Yeah, it is. It is really spicy, but it's. What earth. Yeah, it is a decent amount of spicy.
• 10:55
  > Dave>This is like somebody took a miller light and put a spoonful of pumpkin spice blend in it and sort of stirred it up.
• 11:04
  > Julianna>Yeah, it's just. It's unfortunate that there's no real pumpkin taste to it. You know, it's like when you. When you get an apple pie and you're excited about tasting the apples in the apple pie, but instead, you get the spices that go with the apple pie, and then you're just sort of, like, let down. This is that.
• 11:24
  > Julianna>Yeah, this is that. And it's. Yeah. And this. I don't know. As I taste it, the smoothness is kind of getting unsettling. Is that wrong?
• 11:33
  > Julianna>Oh, okay. What shall we rate?
• 11:38
  > Dave>I mean, we might as well just set the bar where it's at, right? I mean.
• 11:44
  > Julianna>Yeah. Okay, we are gonna rate this a one. And what this one happens to be is, um, from Longmont, Colorado, and it is the left hand pumpkin spice latte nitro.
• 12:00
  > Dave>Do better.
• 12:01
  > Announcer>Left hand do better.
• 12:02
  > Julianna>Yeah. Yeah. 7% abv pumpkin ale with spices and coffee.
• 12:09
  > Dave>There was coffee in it.
• 12:11
  > Julianna>Uh, allegedly.
• 12:13
  > Kendall>And I don't get it.
• 12:14
  > Dave>Whatever. You sure you didn't pick the wrong.
• 12:16
  > Announcer>The blondest of, like, blonde roast?
• 12:19
  > Julianna>Oh, I didn't. And it says right on here, pumpkin ale with spices and coffee added.
• 12:25
  > Dave>You know what? That's.
• 12:26
  > Announcer>It was across the table for a while.
• 12:27
  > Dave>Isn't there a law about truth in advertising?
• 12:30
  > Kendall>Yeah, I think coffee is just overwhelmed by the spice, even if it's there.
• 12:35
  > Julianna>I mean, maybe they were trying to make a, ah, Starbucks y, you know, version.
• 12:40
  > Kendall>There's your problem right there.
• 12:42
  > Julianna>Right. I know.
• 12:44
  > Announcer>Thank you, Seattle.
• 12:46
  > Dave>No, but do you pick better role models?
• 12:48
  > Julianna>You know what I mean? Maybe because the way the can is, you know, like a little latte looking thing.
• 12:55
  > Dave>Let's just.
• 12:56
  > Julianna>Okay, fine, fine, fine. All right. Let's get on to be.
• 13:02
  > Announcer>Better looking.
• 13:03
  > Dave>Yeah, it smells. I like the smell.
• 13:05
  > Kendall>Not bad, but it's balanced.
• 13:08
  > Julianna>So, color wise, this is, like, what I would expect out of a pumpkin.
• 13:12
  > Kendall>Yeah.
• 13:12
  > Julianna>Like, this is more the color. Yeah, more the color.
• 13:16
  > Dave>If the first one had been more like this one.
• 13:18
  > Julianna>Really not much on aroma, though. Like, I'm not. I'm not getting hit with anything.
• 13:24
  > Julianna>Well, we'll return in just a minute with more.
• 13:27
  > Julianna>Welcome back, everyone. Today we're kicking it into the new season, and we are doing a blind tasting of, well, a couple pumpkin beers.
• 13:41
  > Announcer>Nothing says falling 100 degrees outside.
• 13:44
  > Dave>When you look at the tray of beers in front of you, it's like the colors of fall.
• 13:48
  > Kendall>It is. It is beautiful.
• 13:50
  > Julianna>Yeah.
• 13:51
  > Kendall>Best time of year.
• 13:52
  > Julianna>It is.
• 13:52
  > Dave>But then it. Then you start tasting them in it.
• 13:56
  > Dave>It gets ugly from there.
• 13:57
  > Julianna>It gets ugly. Okay, well, right before the break, we start. Oh, well, and let me do a brief. All these are blind. I mean, we know that they're all pumpkin ales, but, um, I poured them out already.
• 14:08
  > Julianna>So you guys don't exactly know which one is which, in case there are closet pumpkin aficionado here at the table.
• 14:18
  > Julianna>Doubtful.
• 14:18
  > Dave>But I have an interesting pumpkin fact.
• 14:21
  > Julianna>Yeah? What's a pumpkin fact?
• 14:22
  > Dave>Pumpkin comes from the greek word peapon, which means large melon. Large nut melon.
• 14:31
  > Dave>Okay.
• 14:33
  > Announcer>Gigantic gourd.
• 14:35
  > Dave>You are getting that hearing aid for Christmas this year.
• 14:37
  > Dave>It's time.
• 14:38
  > Julianna>Oh, thanks. Okay, so before the break, we started b, um, which we can all agree is a little bit more of a normal color that we would expect.
• 14:46
  > Dave>I would say b for better than a yes.
• 14:50
  > Julianna>Yeah, definitely. Right?
• 14:51
  > Kendall>You know, I feel about pumpkin beers the way I feel about hazy ipas. I hate most of them because they're not made very well, but this one is decent. I still don't know if I could drink a pint just because I don't generally like this much spiciness.
• 15:04
  > Dave>I'd get a small pour.
• 15:05
  > Kendall>But if you are a pumpkin fan, this is a decent beer. It's very well balanced. The spice is there, but it's very subtle, and it works really well with everything else. And it still tastes like a beer.
• 15:15
  > Dave>Would you pair this with anything?
• 15:18
  > Kendall>A spoonful of whipped cream, maybe. You know what?
• 15:22
  > Dave>Maybe.
• 15:23
  > Announcer>I mean, I'd eat it after Thanksgiving dinner with some cheesecake or something if I didn't want to eat pumpkin pie.
• 15:27
  > Kendall>Absolutely.
• 15:28
  > Julianna>Sure. Yeah.
• 15:29
  > Dave>Ah, okay.
• 15:30
  > Julianna>Yeah. I mean, but it's really like a niche field on, um, what you can have with this beer.
• 15:36
  > Kendall>Yeah, absolutely.
• 15:38
  > Julianna>Well, we are going to rate this one a three shocking that we can raise three fingers for a pumpkin beer. Now, what's also going to be shocking is this one was in a bottle, and it is the night owl pumpkin ale from Elysian.
• 15:58
  > Announcer>Really?
• 15:59
  > Julianna>6.7% abv.
• 16:01
  > Announcer>Well done.
• 16:01
  > Kendall>Budweiser, right?
• 16:03
  > Dave>You got one, right?
• 16:04
  > Julianna>Yep. So it's brewed with pumpkin, roasted in raw pumpkin seeds, and spiced in the conditioning with nutmeg, clove, cinnamon, ginger, and allspice. Wow.
• 16:14
  > Julianna>Interesting. This one, gold at GABF in 2022.
• 16:19
  > Dave>I m could believe.
• 16:20
  > Kendall>Not surprised.
• 16:21
  > Julianna>It was.
• 16:21
  > Kendall>I mean, just for what it is category.
• 16:23
  > Julianna>Right.
• 16:24
  > Kendall>In the category, it's. It's very well made and a fairly tasty beer.
• 16:27
  > Dave>It was going up against that left hand beer. It absolutely won gold.
• 16:30
  > Kendall>Yep.
• 16:31
  > Julianna>Well, that's. That's fair. Yeah, that's fair.
• 16:34
  > Julianna>Okay. Got any more fun facts for us?
• 16:37
  > Julianna>Good old boy Dave.
• 16:38
  > Dave>Pumpkins, uh, are like beer. They're about 90% water.
• 16:43
  > Kendall>Hmm.
• 16:43
  > Julianna>Huh. Interesting.
• 16:45
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 16:45
  > Julianna>Okay. I didn't think that they are most things.
• 16:48
  > Dave>90% water. Pretty much, yeah.
• 16:51
  > Dave>Look, some of these facts are not necessarily fun, but they are facts, not rocks. Wow. Okay, well, that's fair.
• 16:57
  > Julianna>All right, moving on. Let's go to see.
• 17:00
  > Dave>There's always one in every group, Drew.
• 17:02
  > Julianna>Yeah.
• 17:02
  > Announcer>It's usually me.
• 17:03
  > Julianna>Okay. I mean, c is same in that color of being.
• 17:07
  > Dave>Doesn't smell as good as b, but it.
• 17:09
  > Kendall>Yeah.
• 17:10
  > Julianna>Yeah. There's some spice that's a little overwhelming.
• 17:13
  > Dave>This one's a little more aggressive.
• 17:15
  > Kendall>It's got a little fakey, chemically.
• 17:18
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 17:18
  > Kendall>Kind of spiciness to it. It's a little off.
• 17:21
  > Announcer>It's almost sour, like, and not in, like, a good.
• 17:24
  > Announcer>I intend this to be sour, but, like, in a sickly. Like.
• 17:28
  > Dave>Like, it's turned.
• 17:30
  > Announcer>They're not up.
• 17:32
  > Kendall>Yeah. It's just, I don't know, funky.
• 17:35
  > Kendall>It's like they used extract, and we're picking up some of that.
• 17:40
  > Announcer>It's actually probably a really good.
• 17:43
  > Announcer>You know, how many of these beers are using, you know, pumpkin flavoring from, you know, dow chemical corp. You know.
• 17:50
  > Dave>As opposed to how many breweries went to the, uh, to the grocery, uh, store at the end of. After Thanksgiving last year? And bought all the. The pumpkin stuff that was about to get expired and saved it for this year to make their pumpkin beers.
• 18:09
  > Julianna>Yeah, this one's a little creamier than, um, than the previous one. And I'm like.
• 18:18
  > Julianna>I'm wondering if overall, I'm feeling like I need to have crisper pumpkin to, like, make it tolerable, if that makes any sense.
• 18:26
  > Kendall>Yeah.
• 18:27
  > Julianna>Yeah.
• 18:28
  > Kendall>So the last one, it was a little drunk. Even though it had a sweetness to it, it finished cleaner and drier.
• 18:32
  > Julianna>Yeah. And I think that's what made m.
• 18:35
  > Julianna>Yeah. What it was. Yeah. Yeah. And this is just. Yeah, there's some spice in here that's sort of just overwhelming everything.
• 18:43
  > Announcer>Watered down pumpkin liqueur.
• 18:45
  > Dave>Almost wondering if it's maybe what the base beer on this is, too. Like, if there's something, like they just kind of slap something together because they knew they were gonna cover maybe pumpkins.
• 18:56
  > Julianna>Yeah, maybe. Okay, what shall we rate this?
• 19:00
  > Dave>Uh, it's better than the first one, but.
• 19:03
  > Julianna>Okay.
• 19:05
  > Julianna>Interesting. Now, this one is from Akron, Ohio.
• 19:11
  > Dave>There's no way this should be 37% abv.
• 19:16
  > Julianna>Then it's 8.4% abv.
• 19:20
  > Julianna>It is. Frog's hollow double pumpkin ale.
• 19:23
  > Dave>Hmm. You know, it didn't even make my tongue go numb. Frog.
• 19:27
  > Julianna>There's a place just south. Ah. They call frogs hollow with cauldrons of fire in fall, and they only speak in whispers of the name. There's a brewery, they say, who has the secret of spices picked just right. With a crying shout, they'll knock it out and hand you this frog's delicious.
• 19:48
  > Dave>If the taste of this beer is an indicator, I would say the frog's hollow is located just south of the frog's stomach.
• 19:57
  > Kendall>I think hoppin frogs should stick with their classic dark beers and pumpkin up one of those. I think it might have turned out better because they could make a good pumpkin stout. Make, uh, great stouts, and a good pumpkin stout is what I kind of expected from them.
• 20:11
  > Kendall>So I think they should try one of those.
• 20:13
  > Dave>Do better. Do better.
• 20:15
  > Julianna>Okay, moving on. You got another fun fact, just a.
• 20:20
  > Kendall>Little bit more.
• 20:23
  > Dave>Uh, pumpkin fact.
• 20:26
  > Dave>Uh, so in the US, they grow, like, one and a half billion tons of pumpkins a year. And of that, like, 800 tons or whatever are ripe and available in October.
• 20:43
  > Julianna>Wow.
• 20:44
  > Dave>Yeah. But, like, what are you going to do with pumpkin the whole rest of the year? So where's that other 700 going?
• 20:50
  > Announcer>Can it.
• 20:51
  > Julianna>Maybe there's some crazy person that likes to have pumpkin all year round.
• 20:55
  > Dave>I eat pumpkin pie every.
• 20:56
  > Julianna>Or maybe there's people that want to practice their pumpkin pie to have it perfect for Thanksgiving. Hm.
• 21:06
  > Julianna>Okay, let's move on to d.
• 21:09
  > Julianna>And D is dark.
• 21:13
  > Dave>Oh, wait.
• 21:15
  > Announcer>It'S.
• 21:18
  > Dave>Oh, wait, where? What?
• 21:19
  > Announcer>Oh.
• 21:22
  > Julianna>There you go.
• 21:23
  > Dave>Dave would be drinking the raw beers this whole time. Uh, that would have been hilarious.
• 21:29
  > Julianna>Okay.
• 21:34
  > Kendall>Wow. I kind of like it.
• 21:36
  > Dave>Do you?
• 21:36
  > Kendall>Yeah.
• 21:37
  > Julianna>This has got a neat roast on it, like.
• 21:42
  > Kendall>Yep. I've got an idea which one? I think this one is because there's only two dark beers in the fight, but.
• 21:49
  > Julianna>I know, and you're probably right.
• 21:51
  > Kendall>Um, but it's not bad. I honestly think pumpkin works better in a dark beer than it does these. More caramelly, I would agree. Beers. Most everybody goes with the traditional pumpkin hail, but I think pumpkin stouts really can work.
• 22:05
  > Dave>All right, so, wait, when you're saying pumpkin goes better with dark beers, do you mean pumpkin or pumpkin spice?
• 22:14
  > Julianna>Pumpkin.
• 22:15
  > Kendall>Pumpkin, but also.
• 22:17
  > Dave>Okay, so both.
• 22:18
  > Kendall>But both. Yeah. If you're gonna spice one up, the.
• 22:21
  > Kendall>The flavors of a, of a stout, to me, work more.
• 22:24
  > Kendall>You know, much.
• 22:25
  > Dave>They can kind of carry it and balance.
• 22:27
  > Kendall>Yeah. And it gives a little more balance. It's a little more interesting. That roast can balance it out, and if you don't overdo the pumpkin spice, it can. It can be a nice flavor.
• 22:35
  > Dave>Yeah. I was trying to find a pumpkin, um, like, farmhouse ale or saison or something, because I thought that would be an interesting take to see, like, if it was just pumpkin, the. The flesh of a pumpkin.
• 22:49
  > Kendall>Yeah. You know, that's a great idea. That'd be a fun one to brew.
• 22:52
  > Dave>Yeah. But, uh. Nope.
• 22:57
  > Julianna>So this one I'm getting coffee.
• 23:00
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 23:01
  > Julianna>I mean.
• 23:03
  > Dave>Mm hmm. My main gripe on this one is not the flavor. It's the, there's not a lot of body to it. It's just kind of feels kind of.
• 23:11
  > Julianna>Oh, really narrow to me. It's kind of creamy.
• 23:14
  > Dave>I don't get that.
• 23:14
  > Julianna>Oh.
• 23:18
  > Kendall>Um, it's a little creaminess, but it's not sick. I want that.
• 23:21
  > Kendall>No, no, not that viscosity you get from a big russian imperial stone.
• 23:26
  > Julianna>Right, right. But this is, I mean, compared to what we've had up to this point, I like as much as we liked, um, the Elysian.
• 23:38
  > Kendall>Yep.
• 23:38
  > Julianna>Pumpkin ale. This one I I think I like better because of it. Having that roast like the coffin is, which is making me think, oh, roasty.
• 23:51
  > Julianna>Yeah. Okay.
• 23:52
  > Kendall>Um.
• 23:52
  > Julianna>Um, so we're going to solid zero four.
• 23:57
  > Julianna>All right, let's go four with it.
• 24:00
  > Julianna>Now, Kendall, you want to take a stab at what you think this might.
• 24:04
  > Kendall>Be yeah, I think that was the one from highwire.
• 24:08
  > Julianna>Uh uh.
• 24:08
  > Kendall>No, really?
• 24:10
  > Announcer>Warlock.
• 24:10
  > Julianna>I'm sip. Yep, that was warlock.
• 24:12
  > Kendall>That was warlock. I don't remember Warlock having that much coffee in it.
• 24:16
  > Julianna>Maybe it's just this particular year they were, um, compensated. Like maybe they got a bad, or maybe a good, very robust pumpkin. Yeah, so it was good.
• 24:28
  > Kendall>I've always enjoyed warlock because of that dark stout with pumpkin thing. To me, it's one of the. One of the originals pumpkin stouts.
• 24:36
  > Julianna>Yeah, well, okay, so. So for those of you that don't know, what we're talking about is southern tier brewing companies Warlock, which has been around for a while. It's 8%.
• 24:47
  > Julianna>8.6%. Sorry, ABV. Um, Warlock is dark and mysterious. Flavors of pumpkin ale or pumpkin pie laced with coffee and dark chocolate meld together into something magical. And honestly, I think they're right in saying that. So pumpkin dark roast coffee is the way to go so far.
• 25:08
  > Kendall>Mhm.
• 25:09
  > Julianna>I mean, in terms of the best. Okay.
• 25:11
  > Announcer>I thought it was a hopping frog to be 100%, they say, with Kendall.
• 25:14
  > Julianna>Well, because I thought it was more. Yeah, this tastes like something that hoppin frog would like. Yeah, would do. You know, because with all the barrels that hoppin frog has, why wouldn't they put a barrel, like, do a barrel?
• 25:28
  > Dave>Missed opportunity. Hopping frog.
• 25:30
  > Julianna>Wow. Okay. Or maybe it's just not what we found here.
• 25:33
  > Dave>Yeah, maybe they do have one.
• 25:36
  > Julianna>Yeah. Okay.
• 25:37
  > Julianna>All right, moving on.
• 25:39
  > Dave>Let's go to e random fun fact about pumpkins. They are grown on every continent except Antarctica.
• 25:50
  > Julianna>Really?
• 25:52
  > Announcer>Well, if they're 90% water, I bet Antarctica, they'd be, uh.
• 25:54
  > Dave>Uh, that'd be a heavy.
• 25:57
  > Julianna>But I mean, what's the difference between the other? Like, aren't both poles cold?
• 26:02
  > Announcer>Well, the arctic doesn't really have land.
• 26:04
  > Julianna>Oh, it's not.
• 26:05
  > Announcer>It's mostly sea ice and.
• 26:07
  > Julianna>Okay, is there a little room we could try something? I'm being funny.
• 26:14
  > Julianna>Okay, what do we think of?
• 26:16
  > Dave>I don't think much of.
• 26:17
  > Julianna>Okay, well, this one.
• 26:19
  > Kendall>Yeah, not at all.
• 26:20
  > Julianna>Is light on the spectrum.
• 26:22
  > Kendall>It's.
• 26:23
  > Julianna>I mean, bud light.
• 26:25
  > Announcer>Light.
• 26:25
  > Julianna>Yeah. Right? Yeah.
• 26:26
  > Kendall>Uh, it really does. It tastes like a light beer version of a pumpkin ale with some weird fake pumpkin spice.
• 26:33
  > Dave>Some kind of vegetal.
• 26:36
  > Announcer>And not in.
• 26:37
  > Dave>A good way, like you're drinking it out of a soup can.
• 26:40
  > Julianna>Oh, this is very vegetal. Okay.
• 26:44
  > Kendall>Kind of like green bean ish.
• 26:46
  > Julianna>Mm. This is what happens when you got a bad can that you just opened up. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's almost bordering on like yam.
• 26:56
  > Dave>I'm so angry.
• 26:59
  > Kendall>Yeah, not. This is not very good.
• 27:03
  > Announcer>Think if you have to put.
• 27:04
  > Julianna>Ooh.
• 27:05
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 27:07
  > Julianna>And the spices.
• 27:09
  > Dave>No m.
• 27:11
  > Dave>Okay, so we should probably.
• 27:14
  > Julianna>Just go ahead and just get it.
• 27:17
  > Dave>We. I think we all know.
• 27:21
  > Julianna>Okay, they're saying zero there. I mean, they're giving me the zero. We gotta go with one.
• 27:26
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 27:27
  > Julianna>Oh, uh.
• 27:29
  > Announcer>It didn't happen.
• 27:30
  > Dave>I'm trying to think which one. This one?
• 27:31
  > Julianna>Yeah. Any ideas what this could be?
• 27:34
  > Announcer>Samuel Adams.
• 27:36
  > Dave>That's what I was thinking originally.
• 27:38
  > Julianna>No, though.
• 27:39
  > Announcer>Not high enough abv to be atomic pumpkin.
• 27:42
  > Julianna>No. Because it is very watery. No. Uh oh.
• 27:48
  > Announcer>No.
• 27:49
  > Dave>Oh. Oh. Is it. It's not pumpkin head, is it from shipyard?
• 27:53
  > Julianna>Yeah.
• 27:54
  > Dave>Wow.
• 27:54
  > Announcer>Oh, that's sad.
• 27:55
  > Kendall>Honestly, that doesn't surprise me.
• 27:58
  > Dave>I thought they made pretty good beers.
• 28:00
  > Kendall>I've never liked pumpkin head.
• 28:03
  > Announcer>I mean, they've been making it for forever. You would figure it would be better, right?
• 28:08
  > Dave>Maybe. Maybe people in Portland like it.
• 28:11
  > Julianna>Well, okay.
• 28:12
  > Announcer>Stockholm syndrome.
• 28:13
  > Julianna>But here's. Here's the thing, though.
• 28:17
  > Julianna>We've had a. So our favorite one so far is the warlock, which is dark roast. You know, not exactly like, super, super high abv, but decent abv. The pumpkin head from shipyard, which is in Maine, is four and a half percent abv.
• 28:37
  > Kendall>Wow. That is low.
• 28:39
  > Julianna>So. Right. But what I'm wondering is, with it being so low abv and with it being this color, did they do a pumpkin lager? You know what I mean? As opposed to a pumpkin ale? And is that maybe what's throwing me off?
• 28:55
  > Dave>I thought this was.
• 28:56
  > Kendall>It says wheat, Alex.
• 28:59
  > Julianna>Okay. All right.
• 29:00
  > Dave>I think that's part of the problem.
• 29:01
  > Announcer>The wee.
• 29:02
  > Kendall>So light.
• 29:02
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 29:03
  > Kendall>Yeah.
• 29:05
  > Dave>Wheat doesn't weird flavor in a beer, so it does weird stuff. I don't.
• 29:09
  > Julianna>Yeah. Okay. Okay, well, there's.
• 29:12
  > Julianna>There's that.
• 29:13
  > Announcer>That was.
• 29:14
  > Dave>That was e. That was e.
• 29:16
  > Dave>So, fun fact, there are over 45 different kinds of pumpkins.
• 29:22
  > Julianna>Really?
• 29:22
  > Dave>Yeah. They must. Shipyard must have used, like, the.
• 29:26
  > Dave>I don't know, the dumpkin or something. I don't know, some kind of.
• 29:31
  > Julianna>Okay. Wow, that's impressive.
• 29:34
  > Announcer>Pumpkin Charlie Brown.
• 29:35
  > Kendall>Okay.
• 29:35
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 29:36
  > Julianna>Okay, well, this. Okay, so f is in along the same lines as the previous.
• 29:43
  > Dave>This is.
• 29:43
  > Julianna>It's on the lighter side.
• 29:45
  > Dave>This is so much.
• 29:46
  > Kendall>This is actually a lighter pumpkin ale. This is much better.
• 29:49
  > Kendall>It's. It's fairly well balanced.
• 29:52
  > Kendall>It's. It works.
• 29:53
  > Dave>Yeah. This is nice.
• 29:54
  > Julianna>Oh, yeah.
• 29:55
  > Announcer>Not overly nice.
• 29:56
  > Julianna>Wow.
• 29:56
  > Kendall>No, not overly sweet, not overly spicy. It's just enough.
• 29:59
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 30:00
  > Kendall>Little fall feeling.
• 30:01
  > Dave>This should be the new, uh, beer of ah.
• 30:04
  > Dave>Fall for this. For the show.
• 30:07
  > Julianna>Well, let's not.
• 30:08
  > Dave>This episode.
• 30:11
  > Kendall>The best part about beer season is it's also fest beer season. True.
• 30:16
  > Julianna>Yeah.
• 30:16
  > Announcer>Yes.
• 30:16
  > Julianna>Yeah.
• 30:17
  > Announcer>And if choosing between the two.
• 30:18
  > Kendall>Right.
• 30:20
  > Julianna>Um um yeah. This one's kind of surprised me.
• 30:24
  > Kendall>Yeah.
• 30:25
  > Julianna>Because I'm really not terrible. I'm getting, like, pumpkin vegetal leanness on the nose a bit. So, you know, that kind of has me worried about previous. But then tasting it, it's got this very light little creaminess to it. But it's it's tastes like a beer. It's yeah, it does.
• 30:44
  > Julianna>It's beer flavored beer with a bit of pumpkin.
• 30:47
  > Kendall>Yeah. Not bad at all.
• 30:50
  > Julianna>Okay. What shall we rate? This?
• 30:53
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 30:54
  > Julianna>Wow. We're rating this guy a four.
• 30:58
  > Julianna>Wait.
• 30:59
  > Announcer>Warlock.
• 31:00
  > Julianna>Wow. Dude.
• 31:02
  > Dave>I didn't save any for my cuvette gum. It.
• 31:05
  > Julianna>Oh. Here. You want my here, take mine.
• 31:08
  > Julianna>Okay. So do we have any idea what this is?
• 31:14
  > Kendall>No clue.
• 31:15
  > Julianna>You sure?
• 31:17
  > Dave>Um I'm, um, gonna say this is the Sam Adams.
• 31:20
  > Announcer>I was gonna guess rogue.
• 31:22
  > Kendall>Yeah. I was gonna guess rogue.
• 31:23
  > Julianna>M that's really sweet of you to think, rogue, but it's really it's close to home.
• 31:28
  > Dave>Oh, really?
• 31:29
  > Kendall>Fat bottom.
• 31:30
  > Julianna>This is wow.
• 31:32
  > Kendall>Good job, fat bottom. That's actually a decent pumpkin beer.
• 31:40
  > Julianna>Uh, right.
• 31:41
  > Dave>So so fat bottom made a good beer.
• 31:44
  > Julianna>I wow.
• 31:45
  > Dave>I'm just kidding.
• 31:47
  > Kendall>They've been making great beer for a little while now. Yeah.
• 31:50
  > Kendall>They've made some changes over there, and, um, everything's been stepped up a bit.
• 31:54
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 31:54
  > Announcer>Yep.
• 31:55
  > Julianna>This one is called Jackie. I don't know who Jackie is, but she's doing something right.
• 32:01
  > Julianna>Um, it boasts subtle pumpkin flavor. That is perfectly balanced with fall spices. And this is 6.6% abv. To me, though, this doesn't taste 6.6%.
• 32:11
  > Kendall>It doesn't. I would have guessed five ish.
• 32:14
  > Julianna>Yeah. Yeah. Like, in that vein. Um yeah. Really? Wow. This is really impressive. Good for them. We'll back with more in just a minute.
• 32:24
  > Dave>Hey, everyone. Welcome back.
• 32:27
  > Julianna>Good.
• 32:27
  > Dave>Uh, old gal Juliana decided to leave because she was sick of pumpkin beers. So, just to recap, we are blind tasting 15 pumpkin ish sort of kind of beers today. Now, the first two segments, we made it through a grand total of six of the 15. So in the third segment, we will be talking less, drinking more and rating these last nine.
• 32:56
  > Dave>All right. Let's get to, um, g. Number g. Yeah.
• 33:00
  > Julianna>Number g. I like that.
• 33:04
  > Kendall>I know what this one is.
• 33:05
  > Announcer>I do too. Like, it's terrible.
• 33:07
  > Kendall>Yeah.
• 33:07
  > Announcer>Absolutely terrible.
• 33:09
  > Kendall>Oh, yeah.
• 33:11
  > Julianna>This is potpourri from the seventies.
• 33:14
  > Announcer>You remember the face I made earlier? This is the one, this caramelization.
• 33:19
  > Kendall>And lots of caramel.
• 33:21
  > Announcer>And fake caramel at that.
• 33:22
  > Kendall>Yeah. Oh.
• 33:24
  > Announcer>I didn't know if it could get worse, but it did.
• 33:26
  > Dave>Okay. Yeah, we're done here.
• 33:29
  > Dave>One.
• 33:30
  > Kendall>Oh, is that the southern tier? Yeah. Caramel does not work.
• 33:36
  > Announcer>No.
• 33:36
  > Dave>Better.
• 33:37
  > Kendall>Ooh. Uh, yeah.
• 33:40
  > Julianna>Okay. Everyone needs a water break.
• 33:43
  > Dave>I don't. I don't. Maybe h will wash the taste of g out of my mouth.
• 33:47
  > Kendall>Yeah.
• 33:47
  > Julianna>So, yeah, so the caramel pumpkin, 8.6% abv.
• 33:53
  > Julianna>Um, smooth, rich, luscious caramel intertwines with cinnamon, nutmeg, and pie crust.
• 33:58
  > Announcer>None of that did none of those things.
• 34:00
  > Dave>No, it's all lies.
• 34:02
  > Julianna>It says it's delightful.
• 34:04
  > Dave>No, that's a lie. H everybody got ride.
• 34:07
  > Announcer>Just.
• 34:07
  > Julianna>Yeah, just run away.
• 34:10
  > Announcer>H is a slight improvement. There's no terrible.
• 34:13
  > Kendall>H is a decent pumpkin beer.
• 34:16
  > Kendall>Not, you know.
• 34:18
  > Julianna>Okay. Better. Nice color.
• 34:20
  > Announcer>Are you. Have you been invasion by the body snatcher?
• 34:22
  > Dave>I think something broke inside of me with g. I don't know.
• 34:26
  > Announcer>It just set the bar so low.
• 34:28
  > Kendall>I think g set the bar so low. H is a, uh.
• 34:30
  > Julianna>What are we going with h in terms of a? Uh, three. Okay. All right, cool.
• 34:35
  > Dave>What is it?
• 34:36
  > Julianna>H is the Lexington brewing, Kentucky pumpkin.
• 34:39
  > Announcer>M barrel ale, 10% abv.
• 34:42
  > Kendall>Yeah.
• 34:43
  > Dave>Okay. That's what. Okay.
• 34:45
  > Announcer>Yeah. Right.
• 34:47
  > Kendall>It's not bad.
• 34:48
  > Julianna>Okay, so I. Lighter in color, not much on the nose.
• 34:54
  > Dave>Hmm hm.
• 34:55
  > Kendall>Now, this is sort of more spicy than I like, but not semi pleasant. Yeah. There's no really off putting flavors or out of things that are out of character.
• 35:05
  > Announcer>It's not as well balanced as that. Um.
• 35:07
  > Julianna>Okay, you're getting a little, like, spice sharpness.
• 35:12
  > Dave>This one is nice.
• 35:13
  > Kendall>Burn in the back of my throat.
• 35:15
  > Announcer>That doesn't go with pumpkin.
• 35:17
  > Dave>This one has a skeleton on it.
• 35:20
  > Announcer>Yeah. No.
• 35:23
  > Kendall>Yeah. Boy, that burn lingers.
• 35:25
  > Julianna>I like that.
• 35:26
  > Announcer>Pepper and beer, but not. Not that.
• 35:29
  > Julianna>Okay, so majority rules that this is gonna be a two boo. However, Dave can have all of ours.
• 35:35
  > Announcer>Yes.
• 35:38
  > Announcer>How's it taste on the way back?
• 35:40
  > Dave>Burned its way right back.
• 35:42
  > Julianna>So in case we don't know what this is.
• 35:46
  > Announcer>Wow, that's gorgeous.
• 35:47
  > Julianna>This is the voodoo range.
• 35:49
  > Dave>New Belgium brewing voodoo atomic pumpkin spicy beer.
• 35:54
  > Julianna>Yeah.
• 35:54
  > Dave>In previous versions, it was way spicier than this.
• 35:57
  > Kendall>Was it?
• 35:58
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 35:59
  > Julianna>Really? So they've been doing this for years?
• 36:02
  > Announcer>Yeah, a couple years. And you've tried it before?
• 36:04
  > Kendall>Yeah, this is the, uh, spicy release. So it's like a spicy pumpkin and.
• 36:08
  > Julianna>Okay, well, I mean, I get that heat at the end.
• 36:11
  > Julianna>Okay. So for somebody that likes mexican food and mexican spices and they're confused and they want to be seasonal, then this is for them.
• 36:20
  > Kendall>It kind of works.
• 36:21
  > Announcer>It works in mexican cake.
• 36:24
  > Julianna>Sure.
• 36:24
  > Announcer>This is not mexican cake.
• 36:26
  > Julianna>No.
• 36:27
  > Dave>So is this mexican pumpkin pie?
• 36:29
  > Kendall>Yeah, let's call it possibly.
• 36:31
  > Julianna>Sure.
• 36:32
  > Kendall>I still don't change my opinion of it.
• 36:34
  > Announcer>Well, I mean, but the rich mexican cooking, his culinary history of pumpkin pie.
• 36:39
  > Julianna>Hmm. Yeah. Okay. All right.
• 36:42
  > Dave>Pumpkin pie became popular in the 18 hundreds, so that's a fun fact.
• 36:46
  > Julianna>Oh. Oh, thanks.
• 36:47
  > Announcer>In Mexico City.
• 36:48
  > Julianna>Ah.
• 36:50
  > Dave>In middle America.
• 36:51
  > Kendall>Okay.
• 36:52
  > Dave>Murka.
• 36:53
  > Kendall>So j, which pretty much only one guess for this one, but it's beautiful.
• 36:58
  > Dave>This is nice.
• 36:59
  > Julianna>Yeah, this is nice.
• 37:00
  > Kendall>This is really good.
• 37:02
  > Announcer>Yeah.
• 37:02
  > Kendall>I mean, this.
• 37:03
  > Julianna>And it's not just because it's compared to everything else that we've had so far.
• 37:06
  > Kendall>No, it is complex. The spice is balanced with the stout. The stout has its own character. Got a dryness to it. Yeah.
• 37:15
  > Dave>Soothing to me right now.
• 37:17
  > Julianna>Very soothing, but soothing on many levels.
• 37:20
  > Julianna>You know, because. Okay, this is when pumpkin is done. Right. Because you just stout, which we can all agree because of the dark color. And they make a good stout to begin with.
• 37:31
  > Kendall>Yeah. The 1040 is always really good.
• 37:32
  > Julianna>Yeah. Um, okay, we're rating this one a five.
• 37:35
  > Kendall>Yeah, son.
• 37:38
  > Julianna>Now, for those of you that are trying to catch up, this is a. The high wire spice walla pumpkin latte. Ten W 40.
• 37:50
  > Dave>Spice walla is a brand of spices.
• 37:53
  > Announcer>Reading that beer name, I did not have high expectations. Like, I mean, high wire is good. Ten W 40 is good. Series.
• 38:01
  > Kendall>Most of their one off stuff is pretty good. They do a good job.
• 38:05
  > Julianna>8% abv. So it's reasonable.
• 38:08
  > Julianna>It's not, like, over crazy.
• 38:11
  > Kendall>Yeah, they do some really interesting one offs, and, um, usually they nail them.
• 38:15
  > Julianna>Good for.
• 38:15
  > Kendall>Yeah, well, nice. Nicely done. High wire.
• 38:19
  > Announcer>Don't know if I'd ever order it because there's so many other things you do that I like better, but this is good.
• 38:25
  > Julianna>Fine. They can go there.
• 38:26
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 38:27
  > Julianna>Um, I mean, they can. They can get in the conversation and actually they're doing, hey, let's jump into.
• 38:31
  > Dave>K and see what that one is. Light and light colored.
• 38:38
  > Julianna>Oh, boy.
• 38:39
  > Announcer>Remember the second face I made?
• 38:43
  > Dave>This tastes like somebody poured sprite into vomit. And.
• 38:48
  > Julianna>Oh, my God.
• 38:49
  > Kendall>There's a sprightiness to it.
• 38:51
  > Julianna>Like, super crisp.
• 38:52
  > Dave>I was serious about the sprite.
• 38:53
  > Announcer>Like, yeah, you're not wrong.
• 38:57
  > Julianna>Ooh.
• 38:58
  > Announcer>I couldn't put my finger on.
• 39:00
  > Dave>I have no idea what.
• 39:01
  > Kendall>It's almost like diet sprite. It's fake. Yeah, fake. Sweet.
• 39:07
  > Dave>Something else into this.
• 39:08
  > Kendall>This is flight or something.
• 39:09
  > Julianna>Yeah, I did. No, I did not.
• 39:12
  > Kendall>Um. Um. Yeah. Uh.
• 39:13
  > Julianna>Oh, this is, um, trailer park sangria.
• 39:19
  > Julianna>Yeah. You know, I think Reverend Mark.
• 39:23
  > Kendall>Yeah.
• 39:24
  > Dave>And not trying to think of which one this could be.
• 39:27
  > Dave>Um.
• 39:30
  > Kendall>Hope it's not from a friend.
• 39:33
  > Announcer>Yeah, I really hope it's not.
• 39:35
  > Julianna>No, this is not from a friend. Holy mother.
• 39:40
  > Announcer>Because he'd be dead to us if it was.
• 39:43
  > Julianna>This is 4.4% abv, and this comes from Boston.
• 39:50
  > Dave>And they. So they make a ton of this.
• 39:52
  > Dave>Good. Uh, lord.
• 39:54
  > Kendall>Yeah. Not surprised. That's pretty pathetic.
• 39:57
  > Julianna>And, uh, you know what I mean? Sadly, on untapped, people are rating this a three and a half. What is wrong with that?
• 40:04
  > Dave>Girl from Boston should tell you a lot about untapped.
• 40:07
  > Julianna>Hey, I'm legit in my untapped when I do my untapped. I mean, I may be colorful in.
• 40:13
  > Announcer>My words, but your vote counts just as much as the guy who is.
• 40:17
  > Dave>From Boston who rated that a four. Yeah.
• 40:19
  > Julianna>Okay, moving on to lithe.
• 40:21
  > Dave>This tastes like graham crackers and hatred. Yes.
• 40:27
  > Julianna>Very light in color.
• 40:29
  > Dave>Graham crackers and hatred. Yes.
• 40:31
  > Julianna>Very, very light in colors.
• 40:34
  > Kendall>Mmm.
• 40:35
  > Dave>It's not bad.
• 40:37
  > Kendall>There's a little something in the finish.
• 40:39
  > Julianna>But there's a spice that's kind of fun.
• 40:42
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 40:42
  > Kendall>Yeah.
• 40:43
  > Announcer>That's not ginger.
• 40:46
  > Dave>There's something that makes it last longer than I wanted it, too.
• 40:49
  > Kendall>Yeah, it's.
• 40:51
  > Julianna>And it's. The spices. You know, the spices are there and they linger. Yeah. But this is.
• 40:57
  > Julianna>This is better than some.
• 40:59
  > Dave>Oh, Sam Adams.
• 41:00
  > Announcer>Better than half the ones we've had. Just about.
• 41:03
  > Julianna>Yeah. So this is a southern tier, and this is the pumpkin.
• 41:08
  > Announcer>Really? I thought this. I thought this was a lot, like.
• 41:11
  > Kendall>Sickly sweeter the last time I had really fallen off.
• 41:14
  > Kendall>Well, from where I remember it, you know, six, seven years ago, 8.6 felt like.
• 41:20
  > Dave>That's 8.6.
• 41:21
  > Announcer>What it says imperial pumpkin liars.
• 41:24
  > Kendall>Yeah, that was. That's not what I remember.
• 41:28
  > Dave>More like the pum queen.
• 41:30
  > Announcer>This is why I'm a team warlock.
• 41:32
  > Kendall>Yep. From all the way.
• 41:33
  > Announcer>Yeah.
• 41:34
  > Julianna>Okay. But. Right.
• 41:36
  > Dave>I mean, life.
• 41:37
  > Julianna>Here's the thing, is that maybe there, um. This tastes really vanilla to me. You know, and maybe there was just a little heavy handedness in it or.
• 41:49
  > Kendall>A lot.
• 41:50
  > Julianna>Or a lot. But the thing is, you don't like any vegetable, fruit, etcetera, that you put into a beer, you're taking a chance on what it did.
• 42:00
  > Dave>You know that pumpkins are, uh, technically fruits. Yeah.
• 42:05
  > Kendall>Yes.
• 42:06
  > Julianna>Okay.
• 42:06
  > Dave>See, of course he knew it.
• 42:08
  > Julianna>Did not know that.
• 42:09
  > Dave>Okay, so m is gonna make you miss the pumpkin.
• 42:14
  > Dave>You're gonna think longingly about.
• 42:16
  > Julianna>Pumpkin has a redness that's a little uncanny to me.
• 42:22
  > Kendall>Wow. Yeah, that's m. Like a garnet.
• 42:28
  > Dave>Beautiful color.
• 42:29
  > Julianna>And I'm a January girl, so I.
• 42:30
  > Announcer>Should be excited, but expecting that from a pumpkin beer. Killian's pumpkin.
• 42:36
  > Kendall>Yeah. Just too much spice. Overdone.
• 42:39
  > Julianna>Oh, this is another.
• 42:40
  > Dave>It's got the soup can taste.
• 42:42
  > Julianna>Who? Those girls listening out here that are of my age bracket. You know, back in the day when your mother used to put potpourri on the stovetop and let it simmer.
• 42:56
  > Dave>Oh, wait, we do that.
• 42:58
  > Announcer>This isn't that bad. This is not that bad.
• 43:01
  > Announcer>There's. There's. There's too much spice there, but there's enough sweetness there to back it up.
• 43:04
  > Dave>This is not that bad. Says the guy who liked Sierra Nevada pale ale after a year in the closet.
• 43:10
  > Julianna>Yeah, you're never living that one down.
• 43:12
  > Announcer>Uh, it was delicious. It just got skunkier. Even more west coast.
• 43:17
  > Dave>What would you guys rate him?
• 43:19
  > Julianna>Two.
• 43:20
  > Julianna>Okay, this is two. And this is sad for me, because I don't remember this being this way. This is Schlafly.
• 43:26
  > Announcer>Oh.
• 43:27
  > Dave>Um, see, I can't trust anything from Schlafly in the last years.
• 43:31
  > Kendall>I feel like a lot of breweries have just changed over time. So what we're seeing from southern tier and Schlafly and a few others that we've had for a while, it's just. I think they're just, those recipes have.
• 43:42
  > Dave>Been tweaked and changed in at this point, I think.
• 43:45
  > Kendall>Yeah. Uh, yeah, it's not the same.
• 43:46
  > Announcer>Well, you release it earlier and earlier so that people drink it before they get tired of it, maybe.
• 43:51
  > Julianna>Or if it's the first one that you're tasting, you think, oh, this is. This is good. And then you like. Right, right, okay, this one's not.
• 44:00
  > Dave>Not bad.
• 44:00
  > Julianna>Okay, let's go to n. Yeah, n is darker. Well, a little darker, but still in that garment e ring for not bad.
• 44:12
  > Julianna>Okay, first of all, I like the crispness on this.
• 44:15
  > Dave>Yeah, this is.
• 44:17
  > Julianna>Hmm.
• 44:17
  > Dave>I m don't know that I would.
• 44:21
  > Dave>If this wasn't on a pumpkin beer episode.
• 44:23
  > Dave>I don't know that I would call it a pumpkin beer, but it's.
• 44:26
  > Kendall>It's very faint. It's very subtle.
• 44:29
  > Dave>I think I know what this one is because it's.
• 44:32
  > Kendall>Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's not bad.
• 44:33
  > Julianna>It is very faint. I think the base beer on. This is good.
• 44:40
  > Dave>I think we're all gonna be happy with this one.
• 44:42
  > Julianna>I think we are all going to be happy with this.
• 44:45
  > Dave>I would go.
• 44:46
  > Julianna>Any ideas?
• 44:48
  > Dave>It's frog Alley.
• 44:50
  > Julianna>Yes, it is frog Alley.
• 44:51
  > Dave>Good job, Sean.
• 44:52
  > Announcer>Good job, Sean.
• 44:55
  > Julianna>What are we gonna rate the frog alley for?
• 44:58
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 44:58
  > Julianna>Four.
• 44:59
  > Dave>I feel good about that.
• 45:00
  > Kendall>Uh, yeah.
• 45:00
  > Julianna>Yeah.
• 45:01
  > Kendall>It's one of the better ones we've had today, that's for sure. Good job, Sean.
• 45:05
  > Julianna>Now, I think. Oh, I think we talked to him.
• 45:11
  > Dave>There's not a lot of pumpkin in it. There's just some spices, but.
• 45:14
  > Julianna>Right. Exactly. Yeah. I think he, like, you know, said something about, well, we threw the minimum amount of pumpkin that we could to it. You know what? He was smart.
• 45:24
  > Julianna>He was really smart.
• 45:27
  > Announcer>Well. Oh, there was left. Oh, uh, and, uh.
• 45:34
  > Dave>God almighty.
• 45:35
  > Julianna>I'm not part of this.
• 45:37
  > Kendall>Oh, my gosh. It's more than just pumpkin spice. It almost tastes like Christmas.
• 45:43
  > Announcer>And not in a good way.
• 45:44
  > Kendall>No.
• 45:45
  > Dave>This has to be the rogue beer.
• 45:46
  > Julianna>This is the rogue because this is the last one left.
• 45:48
  > Kendall>That is. Wow. That is very heavily spiced.
• 45:53
  > Dave>What happened, rogue? What happened to you? I.
• 45:56
  > Dave>Ooh, I remember.
• 45:58
  > Announcer>Delicate balance of spices. My patucas Mandev.
• 46:03
  > Kendall>What is that? Clove. I feel like I'm getting just a ton of clove.
• 46:08
  > Dave>Cloven hooves made with devil.
• 46:11
  > Announcer>Whole pumpkins. They chop up and roast by hands. I don't know about that.
• 46:17
  > Dave>Roasted children.
• 46:18
  > Announcer>It's a great marketing story.
• 46:20
  > Dave>Sacrifice something to the devil for this beer.
• 46:24
  > Kendall>Oh, yeah. Rogue, what happened?
• 46:28
  > Dave>Where has. Yeah. Ah. Okay. This is it. I'm sorry.
• 46:31
  > Dave>This has got to be.
• 46:32
  > Julianna>Are we saying that this is a one?
• 46:33
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 46:34
  > Julianna>All right, so I think the now.
• 46:39
  > Dave>Reward Kendall and drew for being such good sports and drinking 15 mostly horrible pumpkin beers.
• 46:53
  > Julianna>Take a sip of water before you have this. Before you have this. This is a special treat.
• 47:01
  > Kendall>Okay.
• 47:02
  > Dave>Wash all the pumpkin and the bad feelings away.
• 47:05
  > Julianna>Right? And now breathe.
• 47:08
  > Announcer>Ooh.
• 47:11
  > Announcer>Ooh.
• 47:12
  > Kendall>That is very, very nice. That's a beer.
• 47:14
  > Julianna>That is beer flavored beer.
• 47:17
  > Kendall>Absolutely.
• 47:18
  > Julianna>So she's called or he's called. Trusty trustee is a blondale from Suarez family brewery.
• 47:27
  > Dave>We wanted to give you guys something.
• 47:29
  > Julianna>Is a belgian inspired blonde.
• 47:32
  > Julianna>They ferment the beer with a subdued strain of trappist style yeast to land subtle spiciness.
• 47:38
  > Julianna>See spiciness with spiciness and citric notes, yielding a straightforward and refreshing golden ale. This is 5.8% abv. Um, so this is your prize for dealing with today. But as we go. As we went through all of these and we got all the colors of the rainbow of pumpkin. Darker was better, right?
• 48:02
  > Dave>Mostly.
• 48:03
  > Julianna>Mostly better. And roasted, dark chocolatey coffee notes with pumpkin were best.
• 48:13
  > Dave>I think a general rule is controlled, and thoughtfulness always makes better.
• 48:20
  > Julianna>Yeah. What's this term? Now we have to go with demure.
• 48:24
  > Dave>And what would you, um, rate the Suarez brother or, uh, family beer, though? Trustee?
• 48:29
  > Julianna>God, it's a five.
• 48:30
  > Dave>Well, we have to rate it.
• 48:31
  > Julianna>Yes.
• 48:36
  > Announcer>Never seen.
• 48:39
  > Kendall>Wow.
• 48:40
  > Julianna>Well, guys, that's gonna wrap it up for today. This. I mean, honestly, I think this was fun. I know that your gut may say otherwise and your taste buds may say otherwise, but, um, I think this was a good episode. Good old boy. Kendall, thanks so much for being here.
• 48:58
  > Kendall>It wasn't as bad as I thought. Yeah. Had fun.
• 49:01
  > Julianna>That's what we try strive for here at sip suds and spokes. Please tell us about your blog.
• 49:05
  > Kendall>My beautiful wife and I blog about the good news of good beer at beer maker three.com.
• 49:11
  > Julianna>Good old boy Drew, thanks so much for being here and sticking it out with us.
• 49:16
  > Dave>He's not speaking.
• 49:17
  > Announcer>Some of it was good. Some of it was right.
• 49:20
  > Julianna>Yeah. Uh, shocking. And the ending was sweet. Good old boy Dave.
• 49:25
  > Dave>I like this. I had to get one in.
• 49:27
  > Julianna>Wait, is that the first time that we.
• 49:29
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 49:31
  > Julianna>So good old boy Mike does approve of pumpkin beers.
• 49:34
  > Dave>He loved my good old boy Mike loves pumpkin and raspberries beers. If someone would make a raspberry pumpkin.
• 49:41
  > Kendall>You would love that.
• 49:43
  > Julianna>That would be awesome. Well, this is good. Ogal, Julianna, keep on chuggling and catch you next time.
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