Latest / Everyday Saints: A Catholic Podcast / St. Maximilian Kolbe — The Saint at Auschwitz Who Traded Places With a Stranger
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- 0:00When he was just 12 years old, a Polish boy named Raymond knelt in front of a statue of
- 0:06Mary and asked her privately, what would become of him? He said she appeared holding two crowns,
- 0:12one white, one red. The white one meant a pure ordinary life. The red one meant martyrdom.
- 0:21She asked him which one he wanted. He said he wanted both. 35 years later, in a starvation
- 0:28cell at Auschwitz, Both promises came due at once.
- 0:44Hi, my name is John O'Connor and this is Everyday Saints. This is episode 21. If you're new here,
- 0:50welcome to the porch. Pull up a chair, grab a cup of coffee or a lemonade and stick around.
- 0:56We look at a new saint every single Thursday. Quick thing before we get into it. Just this
- 1:01previous Tuesday, I dropped a special one. Why do Catholics pray to saints? No saint story
- 1:08that day, just a straight answer to a question a lot of people quietly have. If you missed
- 1:14it or forgot it happened, it's still sitting right there in your feed. Definitely worth
- 1:18a listen. And I'd love to know your thoughts. Well, you already know the setting for this
- 1:24one, even if you don't know the man. This is the story of St. Maximilian Kolbe. Raymond
- 1:31Kolbe was born in January of 1894 in a small Polish town called Zdarnska Wola, the second
- 1:39son of a weaver and a midwife. His mother, by her own later account, was at her wits' end
- 1:45with him as a boy. Restless, strong-willed, the kind of child who wears a parent thin.
- 1:51One day, she asked him, more out of exhaustion than anything else, what was going to become
- 1:57of him? That question is what sent him to pray in front of that statue of Mary. The vision
- 2:03of the two crowns is the answer he came back with. He joined the Franciscans as a teenager.
- 2:10And when he formally entered religious training at 16, he traded the name of Raymond for a
- 2:15new one, Maximilian. He studied first in Poland and then in Rome. And this is the part that
- 2:21tends to surprise people, earned two separate doctorates, both in philosophy and theology,
- 2:27while he was still a young man. In the summer of 1917, still a seminary student, he founded
- 2:35an organization in Rome built around using every modern tool available to spread honor for Mary.
- 2:42The thinking behind it was almost military. An army of ordinary Catholics, organized and
- 2:48equipped, competing for the hearts and minds the same way any other movement of that era
- 2:53was learning to compete. That instinct is part of why printing presses and radio waves would
- 3:00make so much sense to him later on. He was ordained a priest the following year and came home to
- 3:06Poland to teach. He didn't want a quiet classroom though. He wanted to reach as many people as
- 3:13possible, as fast as possible, with as much of his faith as he could get into their hands.
- 3:19In 1922, he started a small monthly magazine with a first print run of about 5,000 copies.
- 3:28Five years later, in 1927, he founded a monastery outside Warsaw. to house it and turn the whole
- 3:35operation into something nobody expected a monastery to be. That little 5,000 copy magazine grew
- 3:43right along with it. In 1930, Kobe took the whole operation overseas, founding a sister
- 3:49mission in Nagasaki, Japan, and publishing a Japanese language edition of the same magazine.
- 3:56Back home in 1935, he added a daily newspaper on top of it, one that was moving well over
- 4:03100,000 copies on a weekday and more than double that on Sundays. By the outbreak of World War
- 4:09II in 1939, that monastery, Niepokolanów, had grown into the largest Catholic religious
- 4:16community in the world. Nearly 800 friars and candidates lived and worked there, and the
- 4:22magazine alone had reached a circulation of roughly 750,000 copies a month, the highest
- 4:30of any publication in Poland. religious or secular. This wasn't a side project bolted onto a monastery.
- 4:37Niamh Pokhlaanuf was the media operation, decades before anyone would have used a phrase
- 4:44like that for a religious order, complete with its own printing presses and its own amateur
- 4:49radio station. Then Germany invaded Poland in 1939 and everything he'd built became a target.
- 4:58The Nazis arrested him. and the other friars within weeks of the invasion, though they were
- 5:04released that December. Kolbe kept publishing anyway. Coming home, he turned the monastery
- 5:10into a shelter for roughly 3,000 displaced people, about 2,000 of them Jewish families hiding
- 5:17from the Nazis, and his presses kept running material the occupying government did not want
- 5:23circulating. Now, that combination, hiding refugees and refusing to stop printing is what got him
- 5:31arrested again in February of 1941, this time for good. He was sent first to a prison in
- 5:38Warsaw, held there for over three months, and then transferred to Auschwitz that May. He
- 5:44was given a number now instead of a name, 16670. Camp Life at Auschwitz was built to strip away
- 5:54everything about a person except that number. Kolbe, weakened and sick, worked and suffered
- 6:01like every other prisoner there. At one point, beaten badly by a guard for simply being a
- 6:08priest, and then quietly nursed back to health afterward by fellow prisoners who hid him to
- 6:14do it. In late July of 1941, a prisoner disappeared from Colby's barracks. Camp policy for an escape
- 6:24was brutal and deliberately public. The camp's roll call commander, a man named Carl Fritsch,
- 6:32walked the assembled prisoners row by row and pointed at men one at a time, choosing 10 of
- 6:37them at random to be locked in an underground bunker and starved to death. A public warning
- 6:44to everyone watching. One of the men he pointed to was a Polish army sergeant named Franczyszek
- 6:51Gajów-Naczek. When his number was called, he didn't stay silent the way most condemned men
- 6:57in that camp had learned to. He cried out, he had a wife, he had two sons. He would never
- 7:04see any of them again. For a moment, nobody in that yard moved. Stepping out of line in
- 7:12front of an armed SS guard, uninvited, was the kind of thing that could get a man shot on
- 7:17the spot, no explanation required. Colby stepped out of line anyway. Fritch demanded to know
- 7:25what this prisoner wanted. Colby answered in plain, calm German. He was a Catholic priest.
- 7:32He had no wife and no children, and he was asking to take this man's place. Fritch was surprised
- 7:39enough by the request that he paused before answering at all. And then he agreed. Gajuvnicek
- 7:47was marched back into formation and by his own later account, he barely had time to process
- 7:53what had just happened to him before it was over. He could only thank Kolby with his eyes
- 7:59as the priest was led away with the other nine men instead. Prisoners sent to that bunker
- 8:05weren't expected to keep any dignity at all in their final days. A prisoner named Bruno
- 8:12Borgelwix was assigned to check on the cell and eventually clear the bodies out. And after
- 8:19the war, he gave a very detailed account of what he saw. He said the room had nothing in
- 8:25it but a bucket for waste. And that bucket, he said, was always found completely dry. The
- 8:32men were drinking out of it to survive. What Borgorovic's heard, though, was the part that
- 8:39stuck with him. instead of the screaming and cursing he was used to from that bunker. This
- 8:45cell echoed with prayers and hymns, quieter each day as the men grew weaker, but constant.
- 8:53Kobe, he said, never asked for anything and never complained. When the other men were begging
- 8:58for water or breaking down in despair, Kobe was the one calming them, encouraging them
- 9:03to hold on. Guards who looked in on the cell reported the same strange thing. Kolbe kneeling
- 9:11or standing calmly in the middle of the room looking back at them without fear when every
- 9:16other prisoner they had ever put in that bunker had been curled up on the floor. Some of the
- 9:22SS men reportedly couldn't hold his gaze and told him to look at the ground instead. After
- 9:30two weeks, six of the 10 men had died from starvation and dehydration. Kolbe was one of the four
- 9:37still alive. The Nazis needed the cell cleared for the next group. So a guard came in and
- 9:45killed the remaining men with an injection of carboic acid. Kolbe was 47 years old. His
- 9:52body was cremated the very next day, August 15th, the same date the church celebrates as
- 9:58the feast of the assumption. That prisoner, Gajudnicek, survived Auschwitz. He survived
- 10:06the rest of the war. He made it home to his wife, Helena. Though his two sons had been
- 10:11killed in 1945 before the fighting in Poland was even fully over. For the rest of his own
- 10:18long life, he carried the strange weight of knowing that a stranger had died in the exact
- 10:24spot that was supposed to be his. Now, not guilt by his own account, but a kind of debt he never
- 10:32stopped trying to repay. He spent decades traveling and speaking about it as a lay missionary.
- 10:38making sure Colby's story didn't get forgotten. In 1971, Pope Paul VI beatified Colby, the
- 10:47first formal step towards sainthood. But he beatified him specifically as a confessor,
- 10:54the church's term for someone who lived an exceptionally holy life without necessarily dying for the
- 11:01faith in the strict legal sense. Some church officials had pushed for martyr. instead, but
- 11:09classic martyrdom requires dying specifically because you were hated for your faith, and
- 11:14Colbe had technically volunteered to die in place of a stranger out of charity rather than
- 11:20persecution. It wasn't a clean fit. Eleven years later, Pope John Paul II overruled that technicality.
- 11:30At Colbe's canonization in 1982, he declared him a saint and specifically a martyr calling
- 11:37him a martyr of charity. Gajudnicek was there for both ceremonies, 11 years apart, watching
- 11:44the church argue its way to the same conclusion he had reached the moment Kolbe stepped out
- 11:50of that line. Which means, in a strange way, Kolbe ended up wearing both crowns exactly
- 11:58the way his childhood vision described. The white crown, the confessor's crown, came first
- 12:03in 1971. The red one, The martyr came second in 1982 after the church spent over a decade
- 12:12making sure it was getting the label right. Gajudvicek lived until 1995 at 93 years old
- 12:20and was eventually laid to rest at Nijampokalanuf itself, the same monastery Kolbe had built.
- 12:28All right, so let's play the truth or legend game before we head back to the porch. Three
- 12:33claims about Kolbe. Some hold up. Some don't. You decide. Claim number one. When Kolbe stepped
- 12:41forward to take Gajudinacek's place, he specifically told the guard that Gajudinacek had a wife
- 12:47and children while he himself did not. Claim number two. The vision of the two crowns, the
- 12:55one from his childhood, is confirmed in Kolbe's own official church record as a verified historical
- 13:00event, the same way his arrest and death are documented. Claim number three. The prisoner
- 13:08whose disappearance triggered the entire selection was later found dead inside the camp itself,
- 13:14meaning the search that got 10 men condemned had already become pointless before it even
- 13:20started. Got your guesses? All right, here we go. Claim number one is true. This detail comes
- 13:28from multiple accounts close to the event, including surviving witnesses. and it's one
- 13:33of the most consistently reported details of the entire exchange. Claim number two is legend
- 13:41in the sense that matters for how we talk about it honestly. It's a real story Colby told about
- 13:47his own life and the church treats it as a meaningful piece of his own devotional biography, but
- 13:54it rests entirely on his own private account, the same way any childhood vision does. It's
- 14:02not independently verified the way his arrest records or camp documents are. And finally,
- 14:08claim number three is probably true, but I want to be honest about the sourcing here instead
- 14:15of pretending it's airtight. It comes from a single well-regarded source rather than multiple
- 14:20independent camp records the way Borgovic's testimony does. So likely accurate, worth
- 14:28knowing, but held a little bit more loosely than the rest of his story. Okay, back to the
- 14:36porch. And I will preface this by saying this story sat with me differently than most that
- 14:45we've come across. So I keep thinking about those two crowns and how long it took the church
- 14:53itself to agree on which one Kolbe was actually wearing. Eleven years between confessor and
- 15:00martyr. Eleven years of very smart, very careful people arguing about the correct label for
- 15:08something that, to everyone who was actually there, I'm sure was never a question.
- 15:18That's actually where I think the real weight of this story sits. Not in the grand gesture
- 15:24itself, but in how ordinary Kolbe made it sound while doing something extraordinary. He didn't
- 15:34launch into a speech about sacrifice or heroism when he stepped out of that line. He just stated
- 15:42a fact. That man over there has a family and I do not. As if the math of it was simple.
- 15:53As if anyone in his position would have done the same thing. Honestly, almost nobody would
- 16:02have. And not to throw shade in my own direction, but I have very little confidence that in the
- 16:09matter of five seconds that I could make the same decision that Kolbe did. And that's exactly
- 16:16the point. Most of us will never face a choice on the scale Kolbe did, and I hope none of
- 16:24us ever do. But... There's a smaller version of it that shows up more than we'd like to
- 16:30admit. And for most of us, it won't look like anything like a starvation bunker. It'll look
- 16:38like letting a coworker take the credit for something you both built. It'll look like staying
- 16:46quiet about what a sacrifice actually cost you instead of making sure everyone knows. It'll
- 16:54look like letting someone else be right when being right yourself would have felt so much
- 17:00better. None of that makes the news. None of it gets a feast day. But it's the same shape
- 17:09of thing scaled down to a size the rest of us can actually carry. A moment where stepping
- 17:16aside costs you something real and you have to decide whether you are willing to pay it
- 17:22without making a whole production out of the decision. You don't need a title from Rome
- 17:28to know which crown you are wearing in that moment. You just need to notice it's being
- 17:35asked of you and do the next right thing anyway. So, here's the question that I'm sitting with
- 17:43this week. Is there a moment coming up in your life where you could quietly let someone else
- 17:51keep what they need, even the praise, and even if it costs you something real? And could you
- 17:59do it without making it about you at all? Interesting. It is now time for the closing prayer. Lord,
- 18:10thank you for Maximilian and for a love that didn't need a formal ruling to be real. For
- 18:17anyone listening who's facing a smaller version of that same choice right now, give them this
- 18:22kind of plain, quiet courage. And for anyone who, like Gajownicek, who is still carrying
- 18:30the weight of a gift they never asked for, Let them find peace in it, not guilt. Amen. St.
- 18:40Maximilian Kolbe is recognized as the patron saint of drug addicts due to the lethal injection,
- 18:46political prisoners, families, journalists, amateur radio operators, and the pro-life
- 18:53movement. His feast day is celebrated on August 14th, the anniversary of his death. Well,
- 19:01that is episode 21. this one stuck with you, send it to somebody who needs to hear that
- 19:06ordinary people are capable of extraordinary love. One more thing, that special episode
- 19:13I mentioned upfront seemed to land with some of you, so I'm thinking about doing more of
- 19:18them. Not saint stories, just straight answers to the kind of Catholic questions people ask,
- 19:24but don't always ask out loud. If there's one you've been sitting on, send it my way. Check
- 19:31the description of this show on how to contact me directly. And next week, we are back to
- 19:37an unknown saint. And no hint this week as I'm still researching which saint I am going to
- 19:42do it on. So check in next week to find out. I'm John O'Connor. Thanks for sitting on the
- 19:47porch with me and I will see you next week.