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Lincoln's Gettysburg Address Means Nothing to Americans Today · Booker Scott: Truth Be Told

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  Speaker 1: It's time for The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott.
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  Speaker 3: Over the Memorial Day weekend this past weekend, and considering
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  Speaker 3: recent American foreign policy issues, In Iran, Venezuela, and now
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  Speaker 3: possibly Cuba, I have to ask the question, do the
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  Speaker 3: American people have the intestinal fortitude to see things through?
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  Speaker 3: It seems like we want everything now, for instance, gratification.
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  Speaker 3: 30 days into Iran, not even. Everybody was talking about
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  Speaker 3: the War Powers Act, and it's time to get out
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  Speaker 3: of there. In Venezuela, it lasted about two hours. I
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  Speaker 3: think 20 minutes in total, they were in and out.
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  Speaker 3: And even that wasn't fast enough or good enough financially.
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  Speaker 3: for most American people. The Battle of Gettysburg occurred two
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  Speaker 3: full years before the end of the Civil War. Americans today,
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  Speaker 3: they could never have that intestinal fortitude and the patience
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  Speaker 3: that it took to win the Civil War. Everyone needs
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  Speaker 3: everything right now. And rarely do we have the selflessness
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  Speaker 3: with sacrifice to a greater cause, like those who have
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  Speaker 3: died for our freedoms, the freedoms that we take for
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  Speaker 3: granted every day. The Gettysburg Address was about two minutes long,
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  Speaker 3: only 275 words. I encourage you to go read it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to read it for you now, but please
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  Speaker 3: go read it and study it. We all know how
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  Speaker 3: it starts. We know the first paragraph. But I really
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  Speaker 3: want you to pay attention to the very last paragraph.
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  Speaker 3: But here goes. Four score and seven years ago, our
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  Speaker 3: fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation conceived
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  Speaker 3: in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men
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  Speaker 3: are created equal. Now we are engaged in a great
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  Speaker 3: civil war, testing whether that nation or any nation so
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  Speaker 3: conceived and so dedicated can long endure. we are met
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  Speaker 3: on the great battlefield of that war. We have come
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  Speaker 3: to dedicate a portion of that field as a final
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  Speaker 3: resting place for those who here gave their lives that
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  Speaker 3: that nation might live. But in a larger sense, we
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  Speaker 3: cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this ground.
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  Speaker 3: The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here have
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  Speaker 3: consecrated it. far above our poor power to add or detract.
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  Speaker 3: The world will little note nor long remember what we
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  Speaker 3: say here, but we can never forget what they did here.
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  Speaker 3: It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated
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  Speaker 3: here to the unfinished work which they who fought here
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  Speaker 3: have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for
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  Speaker 3: us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining
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  Speaker 3: before us. that from these honored dead we take increased
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  Speaker 3: devotion to that cause for which they gave the last
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  Speaker 3: full measure of devotion, that we were highly resolved that
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  Speaker 3: these dead shall not have died in vain, that this
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  Speaker 3: nation under God shall live a new birth of freedom,
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  Speaker 3: that government of the people, by the people, for the people,
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  Speaker 3: shall not perish from the earth. Abraham Lincoln. November 19th, 1863,
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  Speaker 3: two years before the American Civil War ended. Would the
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  Speaker 3: American people have the intestinal fortitude two years before the
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  Speaker 3: end of anything to see something through? I doubt it. Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Michael Schauer and Colonel Mike... They are here tonight. Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Michael Schauer is the former chief of the Osama bin
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  Speaker 3: Laden unit at the CIA Counterterrorism Center. He did that
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  Speaker 3: from 1996 to 1999, and he remained a counterterrorism analyst
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  Speaker 3: until 2004. He was also a former terrorism analyst for
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  Speaker 3: CBS News and the author of the books Marching Toward Hell,
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  Speaker 3: American and Islam After Iraq, Imperial Hubris, Why the West
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  Speaker 3: is Losing the War on Terror, and Osama bin Laden.
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  Speaker 3: Colonel Mike is a former liaison and contractor in Southeast
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  Speaker 3: Asia for many years. He's also an advisor and businessman
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  Speaker 3: with many contracts around the world today. Together, they make
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  Speaker 3: That's T-O-O as in also twomics.com. I've been on their
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  Speaker 3: show several times, and I always enjoy our conversations when
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  Speaker 3: we do that and I've been wanting to have them
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  Speaker 3: here on The Truth Be Told for a while, and
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  Speaker 3: they're here right now. Let's start here with Dr. Mike,
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  Speaker 3: and then we'll get to Colonel Mike, and eventually I'll
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  Speaker 3: just call them Mike and let them jump in whenever
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  Speaker 3: someone wants to go, but I'm glad to have them
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  Speaker 3: here on the program tonight. So, Dr. Mike, let me
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  Speaker 3: ask you, you heard the last paragraph of that Gettysburg Address.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think? Do American people still have the
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  Speaker 3: intestinal fortitude to grasp what Lincoln said?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if they have the intestinal fortitude, but
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  Speaker 4: they also don't have the history of what's happened since
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  Speaker 4: Lincoln said those words. But they've had the experience of
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  Speaker 4: what's happened. And really, to be fair, there has been,
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  Speaker 4: in the last 45 years, no war in which an
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  Speaker 4: American got killed that threatened U.S. security interests. or the
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  Speaker 4: length of our existence. We have fought wars that are
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  Speaker 4: ridiculously unnecessary for us to fight. And I think people
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  Speaker 4: have learned that. And our military, we haven't had a
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  Speaker 4: flag officer who has been in a winning war since 1945.
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  Speaker 4: I think we have gutted what was a great aspect
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  Speaker 4: of the American character, which was willing to stand up
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  Speaker 4: and fight for your flag and fight for Americans if
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  Speaker 4: the cause was truly dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: And if.
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  Speaker 4: There was some leadership on the part of the president
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  Speaker 4: that gave you an idea of what the casualties would be,
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  Speaker 4: but more explicitly what the danger is to the United States.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know how to get that back. We
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  Speaker 4: haven't found a war since 1945 that's threatened America directly.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, the only action that's been taken as far
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  Speaker 4: as I know, and I don't know what's been done covertly,
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  Speaker 4: but in taking out people who were an imminent threat
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  Speaker 4: was when Trump took out the head of the IRGC.
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  Speaker 4: But that was a one-day, one-hour, one-off operation. But the
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  Speaker 4: reason you can have worries about our willingness to go
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  Speaker 4: to the limit and to persevere can be blamed only
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  Speaker 4: on lost wars, lost unnecessary wars, on the unconstitutional delegation
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  Speaker 4: of the Congress's sole right to declare war to the president,
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  Speaker 4: and on the seemingly irresistible effect the ability to wage
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  Speaker 4: war by yourself as a warlord has had on American presidents.
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  Speaker 4: And so is it still there? I would trust if
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  Speaker 4: there was something that looked like it was going to
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  Speaker 4: be an invasion of the United States or something else,
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  Speaker 4: that that would trigger a lot of people. It certainly
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  Speaker 4: did after 9-11. But when we found out we didn't
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  Speaker 4: want to win the war in Iraq or the war
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  Speaker 4: in Afghanistan, I think that cut the guts out of
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people who signed up and went to fight.
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  Speaker 4: So the reaction of the electorate is a function of
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  Speaker 4: the president's behavior. And our president's behavior from Truman forward
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  Speaker 4: has not been that of a president, but of a warlord.
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  Speaker 4: And I'd be damned. if I was going to risk
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  Speaker 4: my life for a warlord.
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  Speaker 3: Colonel Mike, I'm going to come to you in a minute,
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  Speaker 3: and we're going to talk about imminent threat. You brought
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  Speaker 3: it up a couple of times there, Dr. Mike, and
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  Speaker 3: I want to get into it because I see Cuba
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  Speaker 3: as a possible imminent threat, and I want to dig
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  Speaker 3: down into what exactly an imminent threat is. Is it
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  Speaker 3: only when there's going to be an invasion of this country,
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  Speaker 3: or can you see beyond that in places like Iran
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  Speaker 3: right now. And I think I probably know Dr. Mike
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  Speaker 3: because I've been on the show with you guys before.
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  Speaker 3: But Colonel Mike, let me come to you and get
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  Speaker 3: your answer on the intestinal fortitude question about Americans.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I was fortunate over the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: I was invited to a church kind of lunch where
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  Speaker 2: they invited veterans. Now, I didn't I was in the
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  Speaker 2: Vietnam era, but I wasn't in Vietnam. And it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of boomer. And they did a nice lunch, and there
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  Speaker 2: was a lot of those cakes and cupcakes with the red, white,
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  Speaker 2: and blue. However, they had these napkins on the table. America,
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  Speaker 2: the home of the brave landed the hope the home
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  Speaker 2: of the free and landed the brave. And I saw
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  Speaker 2: a young teenager, right? America, the home of the occupied,
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  Speaker 2: he crossed it out. And where where the word brave was,
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  Speaker 2: he crossed it out with a pen and he said,
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  Speaker 2: former brave men. And I spoke with him for a
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  Speaker 2: few minutes about that. And I said, what made you
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  Speaker 2: write that? And he said, I don't think we're ever
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  Speaker 2: going to see people like of the generations before us,
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  Speaker 2: such as, and this is a church that's close to
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  Speaker 2: the Civil War battlefield, Booker.
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  Speaker 5: It's a Protestant church. And, you know, I visit often,
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  Speaker 5: Mike has over the.
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  Speaker 2: Years and the Antietam National Cemetery is, is right close
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  Speaker 2: to the Antietam battlefield. And if anyone has never visited Antietam,
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  Speaker 2: it was the bloodiest battle we had in our history.
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  Speaker 2: And we don't learn that in school. In fact, I
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  Speaker 2: think I learned it somewhere in the eighth grade in
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  Speaker 2: New York City. But I'll read this real quick for you.
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  Speaker 2: Because you spoke about the Gettysburg Address, and this is
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  Speaker 2: a bronze.
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  Speaker 5: Plaque on the wall of the cemetery.
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  Speaker 2: The Antietam National Cemetery is one of the 130 cemeteries
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  Speaker 2: of the National Cemetery System, a system that began during
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  Speaker 2: the Civil War.
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  Speaker 5: Which was the Bloody War.
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  Speaker 2: There are 4,776 Union remains. 1,836, or 38%, are unknown,
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  Speaker 2: buried here from the Battle of Antietam, South Mountain, which
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  Speaker 2: is part of the Antietam Campaign, Monacacy, and other action
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  Speaker 2: in Maryland.
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  Speaker 1: All of the.
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  Speaker 2: Unknowns are marked with small square stones. These stones contain
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  Speaker 2: the grave number, and if you look closely on a
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  Speaker 2: few stones, a small second number represents how many unknowns
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  Speaker 2: are buried in that grave. There are also a few
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  Speaker 2: of the larger traditional stones that marked unknown graves. In addition,
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  Speaker 2: more than 200 non-Civil War dead are also buried here.
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  Speaker 2: Veterans and their wives from the Spanish-American War, World War I,
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  Speaker 2: World War II, Korea, were buried here until the cemetery
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  Speaker 2: closed in 1953. Recently, an exemption to the closure was
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  Speaker 2: made for the burial of Keedysville resident Patrick Howard Roy,
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  Speaker 2: United States Navy. Fireman Roy was killed during the attack
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  Speaker 2: on the USS Cole. and was buried in the cemetery
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  Speaker 2: on October 29, 2000. And they tell you further. But
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  Speaker 2: the point is, when you visit this battlefield, and I
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  Speaker 2: visited many, many times, you get the sense of where
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  Speaker 2: we were. You know, living in New York City and upstate,
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  Speaker 2: you got the Revolutionary War. Living in parts of Virginia,
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  Speaker 2: you get the Revolutionary War. When you come around to Antietam,
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  Speaker 2: which was part of the Gettysburg Campaign, which, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it started down in Harper's Ferry, West Virginia, went up
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  Speaker 2: to Antietam, Maryland, which is Sharpsburg, and then into Gettysburg.
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  Speaker 2: You get the sense of like, wow, it's almost like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the Wild West kind of thing if you're
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  Speaker 2: a young guy. Or if you're a historic kind of guy,
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  Speaker 2: you get the sense of like, look at what we
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  Speaker 2: had to shed. You know, and I'm going to say
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  Speaker 2: at the end of this show, it was a great
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  Speaker 2: show I saw last night, Dad's War. And it was
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  Speaker 2: about an American guy whose dad went over to fight
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  Speaker 2: for France with the OSS. really great documentary. And you
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  Speaker 2: just see the field of all the tombstones of the
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  Speaker 2: people who died during that Normandy campaign. So do we
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  Speaker 2: have the fortitude? I don't think so. I think we're
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  Speaker 2: such a fast TikTok, Instagram country now. Your Facebook, you know,
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  Speaker 2: people are interested in Netflix and sports more than they
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  Speaker 2: are the future of the country. And it's sad. It's
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  Speaker 2: really sad. I would like to see I don't say
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  Speaker 2: false patriotism or more patriotism. I'd like to see people
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  Speaker 2: more involved, more in the elementary education to the middle
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  Speaker 2: school education to understand how close, like Reagan said, you're
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  Speaker 2: only one generation away. But I see this, and we
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  Speaker 2: just had a, we did a show on Monday where
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  Speaker 2: we spoke with a great professor, and he's in Southeast Asia,
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  Speaker 2: and we spoke about Iran. And the I think the
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  Speaker 2: tide is turning. The American kids, they call it the
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  Speaker 2: awakening now, you know, these terminologies. And a lot of
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  Speaker 2: kids are sympathizing now with Iran, like how long are
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  Speaker 2: we going to do this? And Gaza and Israel and
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  Speaker 2: so on. So and Cuba, come on, it's a little place.
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  Speaker 2: We sanctioned it forever. And you have a point. Cuba
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  Speaker 2: would be an imminent threat with the technologies today. with
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  Speaker 2: having drones and, you know, close to Miami, come on,
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  Speaker 2: you know, multi-million dollar, billion dollar real estate out there
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  Speaker 2: that can be, you know, boom, you know, just take
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  Speaker 2: out a building like they did in Dubai. So yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's an imminent threat, but only if you force it
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  Speaker 2: to become an imminent threat. What I miss, Booker, is diplomacy.
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  Speaker 2: And I was around it many, many years within Washington,
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  Speaker 2: Southeast Asia. We used to have guys that would go
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  Speaker 2: in a room and speak and argue and drink cognac
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. But we don't have the James Bakers. We
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  Speaker 2: don't have the Lavrovs. They're not there. Marco Rubio is
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  Speaker 2: not up to speed. You know, I don't know. When
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  Speaker 2: I saw the China deal, I spoke about it on
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  Speaker 2: Monday on the show. There's a protocol. The State Department,
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  Speaker 2: the Secretary of State and the ambassador are the first
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  Speaker 2: two on the receiving line in any host country. OK,
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  Speaker 2: Marco Rubio was behind the Treasury secretary. To me, that
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  Speaker 2: was a flag. It wasn't a red flag, but it
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  Speaker 2: was a flag of like, what are we doing here?
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  Speaker 2: You know, he's the secretary of state. Where's the ambassador?
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  Speaker 2: He's supposed to be next to him. So I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We lost a lot of luster and we have a
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  Speaker 2: lot to a lot of work to do to get
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  Speaker 2: that luster back. Now, Trump came in, as you know.
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  Speaker 2: We all voted for him. We all thought, OK, this
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  Speaker 2: may be great. A lot of guys, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: young guys signed up. They said, hey, I'm ready to
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  Speaker 2: go back into action. I want to be in the military.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. It's going to take a
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  Speaker 2: lot more than, you know, truth social posts and posts
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  Speaker 2: on X from the president. Like, you know, if you
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  Speaker 2: don't do this, I'm going to bomb you. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to bomb you. We can't operate like that. You can't
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  Speaker 2: be a superpower and talk like a 1930 James Cagney movie.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? That's how he's acting sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it becomes a bluff when you repeat it over
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  Speaker 3: and over and it loses effectiveness. And I think that's
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  Speaker 3: part of the problem here in Iran. They don't really
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  Speaker 3: care what Donald Trump says. They're trying to outlast him
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  Speaker 3: in any way. We're coming up on a break. After
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  Speaker 3: the break, I want to get into the peace negotiation
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  Speaker 3: that has taken place in Iran, and I also want
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  Speaker 3: to get into the imminent threat conversation about Cuba. I
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  Speaker 3: want to share with you guys a conversation that I
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  Speaker 3: had Friday before the weekend. I was at a convenience store.
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  Speaker 3: In front of me was a young man wearing a
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  Speaker 3: black T-shirt with the white letters on the back, Anti-War
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  Speaker 3: War Club. I couldn't help myself. I couldn't help myself.
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  Speaker 3: I tapped him on the shoulder, and I would say
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  Speaker 3: he's 28, 30 years old. do you mind if I
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  Speaker 3: ask you a question? He said, sure, go ahead. I said,
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  Speaker 3: is there any war that you would be okay with?
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  Speaker 3: And he said, yeah, if terrorists attacked, that would be one.
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  Speaker 3: I said, well, what about atrocities, human atrocities? Like, for instance, China,
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  Speaker 3: where they do forced organ harvesting and they've killed 150,000 people.
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  Speaker 3: Is that worthy of a war in China? He said,
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  Speaker 3: I guess it would be. And he turned, he was
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  Speaker 3: walking out the door, and he said, and atrocities like Palestine,
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  Speaker 3: which is what you were just talking about there, Mike,
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  Speaker 3: that a lot of these people in their ideology, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they're for Iran. They're for Hamas in Gaza. And that's
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  Speaker 3: where this guy was coming from. And my response to
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  Speaker 3: him was, there has never been a Palestine. And it
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  Speaker 3: was 1,200 Jewish people that were killed on October 7th
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  Speaker 3: by Hamas, a proxy of the Iranian government. And he
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  Speaker 3: walked out the door. Any thoughts on that? We've got
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  Speaker 3: a minute or two before we get to a break.
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  Speaker 4: The Israelis have brought on and the Arabs have brought
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  Speaker 4: on the problems they have themselves. What business is that
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  Speaker 4: of the United States? If we fight for anything, we
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  Speaker 4: fight to protect American lives, to protect our economy, not
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  Speaker 4: to go around the world to find things that we
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  Speaker 4: think need to be defeated. Just when you talk about,
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  Speaker 4: I haven't heard one word yet about Cuba, where they
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  Speaker 4: talk about it all the time, but they have not said,
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  Speaker 4: what are they going to do about the big Chinese
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  Speaker 4: intelligence service development that's there? They took it over from
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  Speaker 4: the Russians. What happens to that? The biggest intelligence collection
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  Speaker 4: facility for China is in the embassy that's in the Bahamas.
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  Speaker 4: What are they going to do about that? They talk
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  Speaker 4: about ephemera. No one wants to die or see their
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  Speaker 4: son or daughter killed for ephemera. And there's so much
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  Speaker 4: of that that has been done from the mighty invasion
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  Speaker 4: of Granada to the disaster in Vietnam. It's hard to
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  Speaker 4: bring people back when they have seen what war making means.
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  Speaker 4: And it means the death of yours, more taxes on you,
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  Speaker 4: and the gun makers make money. And they never end sometimes,
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  Speaker 4: these wars. So it's a hard thing to confront. But
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  Speaker 4: I think the beginning of wisdom in any foreign policy
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  Speaker 4: is don't go looking for problems.
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  Speaker 3: Colonel Mike, do you have any thoughts on the young
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  Speaker 3: man with the t-shirt at the convenience store?
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, he's a young man and he has
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: a point of view. And it's different than others. Everybody
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: has a point of view. But my view on Cuba
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: is we've had sanctions on him for so long. And
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: whatever they do internally as a country, that's their business.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Although we'd like to see them get freedom. Again, look
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: what they do to us as a country. You know,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: they're putting in these laws that you can't say things
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: and anti-Semitism here, anti-Semitism there. You know, we have the
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Constitution and you know it, where the First Amendment is
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: real freedom of speech. And everybody screams about death to
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: America from Iran. You know, hey, what do you want?
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: What do you expect them to say? You sanction them
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: for what, 40 something years? We're sanctioning Cuba since the
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: time of the Bay of Pigs and Castro.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: But again, he was a boogeyman. We always liked the boogeyman.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: You know, we have to look at the boogeyman.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: You have to have one.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: And yeah, you got to have them. But, you know,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: it would be smarter to cut the deal with Cuba
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: because it's an island nation. Everybody can go in there
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: and do some economic development. But I'll tell you what happens.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: We're going to spend money if there's any kind of
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: an invasion. It'll be cost to the American people. The
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: billionaire oligarch class of Americans will go in there and
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: develop it and smile. And I'm talking about the Black Rock,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: the Black Stone and those kind of guys. So this
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: is where it concerns me. We basically are the agencies
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: and the military are now hired guns for corporations, just
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: like the days of the bananas in Honduras and what
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: now in Nicaragua. We're educated now. We know the past.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: We have the history. So anytime we could make a
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: peace deal, in my opinion, and let it go, it's
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: not going to be perfect, and it's not going to
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: be smooth. It's a lot better than losing and having
• 21:45
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• 21:46
  Speaker 3: I'm hearing from both of you that the American people
• 21:49
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  Speaker 3: So let's get to Cuba, and let me tell you
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: what I think, and then I want to hear what
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: you guys think. I think that what they have done
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: with indicting Raul Castro is symbolic to the people of Cuba,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: and I think that's what the American Justice Department and
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: ultimately the administration is using to set up another police
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: action like they did with Maduro, to take Maduro to
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: New York, and then they'll do the same thing with Castro.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: He's 94 years old. He's really no threat to anyone.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: And that's why I say it's symbolic. So, Dr. Mike,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: what do you think? Do you see that as a
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: possibility here as the Cuba conversation continues?
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Oh, I think it clearly is the one they would
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: prefer to do if they could do it again. I
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: don't know if they can get the same kind of
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: circumstances that facilitated the one in Colombia. Was it Colombia
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: or Venezuela?
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Venezuela.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Venezuela.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: That's right. Pardon me.
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: But Cuba is a whole different kettle of fish. Those are,
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: there's a, it seems to me anyway, the people that
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: run that government aren't going to want to give it
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: up and they turn out the Marines again. But once
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: we're there, what happens then? We rebuild it. We send
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: people there to build things and we send billions of
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: dollars to do it. Is that practical in a country
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: that's bankrupt, basically? Is it something that the taxpayers want
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: any part of? They can't get a full tank of gas,
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: but you can spend $ 30 billion in Venezuela or much
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: more than that in Iraq. It's a very difficult governing problem,
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: but it's a problem that was created by our own government.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: You use war when it's necessary. when you use it flippantly,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: as we have since 1945, it becomes what it always is,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: which is a waste of money, but without, in this case,
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: since 1945, without the satisfaction of knowing that you won
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: World War I, you won World War II, you won
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: the Civil War, there has to be a payoff at
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: the end. And all the wars we've fought since 1945
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: have been lost causes and have been wars where we
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: haven't applied our military power to the extent that the
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: people have paid for it to its full maximum usefulness.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Why do you think that is? Do you think it's politics?
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: It's absolutely politics. It's absolutely politics. All you needed to
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: do in Afghanistan, for example, was to go in there
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: and pound the living hell out of whatever you could
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: find and destroy what little they had of infrastructure, and
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: then get out. Knowing full well you might have to
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: do it again. But the only thing that's worked in
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Afghanistan since the 19th century has been just short of
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: that operation. We ignored the fact that the Afghans defeated
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: the British twice. defeated the Soviet Union. For goodness sake,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: they defeated Alexander the Great when he was still alive.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, tough place to win a war.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: It's a tough place to win a war. And what
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: do you have after you win it? They're going to
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: go back to the way they've lived their lives. They're
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: going to be tribal. They're going to be fiercely patriotic
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: and only willing to join with each other to fight
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: a foreigner. You will change nothing. And almost before we
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: got our feet on the ground, they were talking about
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: democracy on the banks of the Kabul River or why
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: we should bring abortion to women in Afghanistan. We're run
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: by idiots. We wage war like idiots. And to talk
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: about staying the course of any war, I would think,
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: taking the example that you made with the Civil War
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: or World War II, Another good example. If you're going
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: to stay in the course, you've got to have an
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: end there somewhere.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: It's visible and acceptable.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Maybe the better question or another question from the question
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I started this hour with, in hearing you talk, is
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: do the American administrations, regardless of what party, do they
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: have the intestinal fortitude to do what needs to be
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: done when it comes to one of these things?
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: They have no intestinal fortitude, sir. I spent 22 years
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: And the only thing they worried about in the intelligence
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: community was whether they get laughed at if we tried
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: something and it didn't work. The thought of what if
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: we don't try this and Americans get killed, that was
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: a safe harbor. At least they didn't do anything that
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: they could be blamed for. I don't think there's any
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: intentional– That kind of fortitude, I forget the word, I'm sorry. Internal, intentional.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Intestinal, whatever, yeah.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's not. It's my job to protect the
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: president on anything we do as a country. It's become,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: for the intelligence service, it's not, is it the right
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: thing to do or the wrong thing to do, but
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: the president wants it. So we had Iraq.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: We had an enormous... amount of information about Afghanistan that,
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: and it was provided to the military by men and
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: women who had worked on Afghanistan for 12 years under
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: the Soviet invasion. You're not going to win there if
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: you do these things.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: I want to go to Cuba. I want to go
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: to Cuba real quick, because I think this conversation can
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: go a little bit longer and in more detail when
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: it comes to imminent threat. I posed this question on
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: a post on social media over the weekend. Does Cuba
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: constitute an imminent threat to the USA? We know China
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: and Russia supplied 300 drones. 300 drones versus the U.S.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: military is no true threat. But if one of those
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: drones was shot and got through defenses and lands in
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Miami suburbs, killing Americans and a couple of kids... Could
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: it not be argued that Cuba is an imminent threat
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: to Americans? How do you look at it? Is it
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: only a military imminent threat or a threat to American people?
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: And if that makes sense, an imminent threat is an
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: attack on any American, then only offensive preventative strikes by
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: American military against Cuba makes sense. We can't let even
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: one drone get through to kill an American. And if
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: you apply that logic to Iran, too, then that makes
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: sense also. But define imminent threat. Is it only after
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: the adversary has shot first? Or is it if there
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: is knowledge the U.S. military or intelligence has that says
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: they are capable and ready to fire? And how could
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: you wait until a finger is on a trigger?
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't wait if I knew how to find the
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: person who was behind it and killed it. Look at
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: all the wars that could have killed him. Look at
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: all the wars that could have been stopped with a.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: 50 caliber rifle shot to Saddam's head, to some of
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: the Afghans, to Osama bin Laden, or to anybody, any
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: bad guy you can fish out of the stream now.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Once they're dead, that might solve the problem. But the
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: idea that some drones in Cuba— are more dangerous than
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: the idiot prop policy in America of letting any whack
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: job who wants to have a drone, he can buy one,
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: get a license for it easily. And what are we
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: going to do about those drones?
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm talking about missiles and I'm going to go
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: to Colonel Mike real quick because.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: He's very knowledgeable on this.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Let's say one of those gets through and it kills Americans.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Here's the thing, going back to intestinal fortitude of Americans.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure that what you suggest, Dr. Mike, that
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: American people would even be okay with. Let's say we
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: send a CIA operative, somebody that can take that shot
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: and kill the regime in Cuba or whoever has their
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: hand on the trigger, as you suggest, of a missile
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: or a drone. We can take out that threat that way.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Do you really think that the American people would be
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: okay with it, with the ideology that we have here
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: in this country?
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: A great number of Americans are desperate for that kind
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: of manly activity rather than the foolishness we do, sir.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of people.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Colonel Mike, imminent threat. What do you think?
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: All right, I'm going to read this for you.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: An imminent threat refers to a situation where harm, danger,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: or peril is immediate, impending, and about to happen, leaving
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: little to no time to escape or react. I think
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: right now we're creating... the imminent threat.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: By speaking about what we want to do in Cuba.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Up until this last week or two, there was always
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: discussion about it. It was always after Venezuela, we'll take
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: care of Cuba. Okay, now that they lit the fire,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: the Cubans have to think about their imminent threat and
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: how they would react to our threats of taking Raul Castro,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: who's 94, 95, OK, the Cuban people, of course, they
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: want the freedom. If you probably do a street walk
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: in a pole in Cuba with undercover agents. you'd find
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: out 90% of them would like to come to America.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: They would like paint on their walls. We have this
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: vision of Cuba as this beautiful place to live. If
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: you look at Cuba, the paint peeling off the walls,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: the old buildings are in dire straits. Women have to
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: go out and prostitute themselves in restaurants and so on
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: to make a living. I mean, it's not a glory place,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: and it could be a beautiful island, just like.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: The other islands down there in the Caribbean.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: But is now the time, because.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: We did Venezuela and we're now in Iran?
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I agree. Listen, if it's a threat that came, and
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: we have to trust the intel, but I don't know
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: how much we have to trust them now. If the
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: threat came through intel channels that they're ready to do something,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: they're going to react before we do, then that's the
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: imminent threat to America. But if we started, Booker, there's
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: no way that they cannot react. reply and that would
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: be drones and they know exactly where they want to
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: hit and like mike said the chinese have bases down
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: there and you know we're still we're still discussing what
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: happened to diplomats that have these brain problems from whatever
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: they were using on these people in cuba and i
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: could just imagine if we had people on the ground
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: now again this could be a bay of pigs kind
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: of thing it could be there's many ways to go
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: And start the you know revolution. It's not going to
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: be good.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: However, if they capture Castro and they have a second
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: in command like Delcy or somebody that can walk through it,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think we're fatigued. We're fatigued. We
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: have too much on the table. Again, the promise was made,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: no wars. The promise was made, make America great again.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: We have Gaza, We have Iran, and now we'll have Venezuela,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: and now we'll have Cuba. So the imminent threat, yes,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: you must protect the people in Florida. You must protect
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: the people in America. However, I don't know the back
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: story on why it's come out now.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: I'd like to know a little bit more.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, the CIA director was just there a
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: week and a half ago. That was an odd trip,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: wasn't it? Yeah, that was an odd trip, wasn't it?
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: And they don't usually go on trips unless they're ready
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: to do something. Yeah, you usually send– there's a lot
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: of other people you could send. And you could meet
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: at a third– you could be in Mexico. You could
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: go in Colombia. You go somewhere else.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: But the fact that he landed in Cuba was– to me,
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: that was a statement. What the statement is, I don't
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: know now.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: I think we're going to have to wait and find
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: out what that is. I had a comment on that
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: thread of posts that I made on social media. from Devorah.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: She's a follower of mine in Miami. And here's what
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: she said. She said, truth is, I can't give a
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: rat's ass about anything except seeing the Save America Act
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: pass before the midterms until we finish completely without all
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: the BS capitulating and wheeling and dealing with Iranian lunatics
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: wreaking on our soil and abroad. I don't have an
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: energy for Cuba. And she lives in Miami. I thought
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: it was an interesting comment. That brings me to an
• 36:36
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• 36:38
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• 36:40
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• 36:43
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  Speaker 3: Are you paying any attention to what's happening in every
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  Speaker 3: one of these elections since November? The turnout is terrible
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• 38:02
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• 38:06
  Speaker 3: in all of the foreign things that we've been talking
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: about in this hour. You have Cuba, possibly. We had Venezuela.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: That's still going on. We have oil companies that have
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: gone down and signed agreements. with the former vice president
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: that was handpicked by Maduro that there were worries about,
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: but she is cooperating with America and allowing America to
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: do what we want to do there. And I think
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: the point was made really well earlier in this hour
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: about the Cuba regime, the leftover Castro people, they would
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: not be the same way. And then you have Iran,
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: you have $ 4. 50 gas prices, you know, inflation is creeping up.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: It was 3.8, although the core inflation was 2.8. a
• 38:46
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• 38:49
  Speaker 3: it could be. And a lot of economists said it
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: would be at this point. We have what I guess
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: is a piece that they have come to, and I'm
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: not sure who we're negotiating with. I don't know why
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: we have been negotiating with. I don't even know why
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: there was a deal or even talk of a deal, really.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I personally believe we should have just blown them all
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: up about 45 days ago. I go after my uncle, John,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: who used to say, just nuke them, nuke them all.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: That was his answer for everything. And let's talk about
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: the midterm, because I am really concerned about this, because
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: I see this country and an ideology that wants us
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: to go to socialism and communism. And that should be
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: our greatest fear, not all of these leaders. little things
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: and these weeds that we become distracted with. Dr. Mike,
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: what do you think?
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think the truth is, and it has
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: been for a while, the greatest imminent threat to the
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: United States is the Democratic Party. There's no way to
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: get around that. You know, it makes the Iranians look impotent.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: or any of our other enemies, the enemy is domestic. Uh,
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: and we in Virginia now with, with, uh, this lunatic, uh,
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: former CIA person, Spanberger in control, know it as well
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: as anybody else.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about Virginia real quick, because in that
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: race that she won against Winsome Sears, Winsome Sears lost
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: by 15 points. It was a state that was won
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: by a Republican just four years prior. Why do Republicans
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: not go out and vote if they see Spanberger as
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: a threat to the Constitution of the United States and
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: liberty and freedom?
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: Because they didn't realize that she was lying about everything,
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: would be my answer. If she's coming from the agency,
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: she's still working for them and for the Congress. She's
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: the point edge of whatever the Democrats want to do
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: in the country. Why you would vote for somebody like that,
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know. But clearly... And the richest part, where
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: I live down here in southwestern Virginia, the richest part
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: of this county gave its votes to Spanberger. But it
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: just seems to me that the enemy is here. And
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: they made a big mess over that, remember, during the
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: last presidential election when Trump said it or somebody on
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: his side said it. But it's the absolute truth. Why
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: are we short of ammunition? Is it because we have
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: counters who can't count or people who are negligent in
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: their performance? Or is it because the military spent billions
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: to get DIE people in there so they could sabotage
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: what's going on in the military? I don't know what
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: the answer is to that. There's a lot of things
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know the answer to, but I know one,
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: and that is the Democratic Party needs to be eliminated.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: by the voters, make them endure such defeats for such
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: a long period of time that they have to stop
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: acting like idiots, perverts, and anti-Americans.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Well, in every race since November, the Republicans really have
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: gotten their ass kicked. That's the only way to say it.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Even in races and special elections where they should have won,
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: they still lost 25 points since 2024. And as I
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: look at it, with raw vote numbers, Republicans aren't showing up.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: the messaging isn't getting there. Maybe there's frustration with, you know,
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: some of the things that have happened in the Trump administration,
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: as we've been talking about in this hour, where it
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: comes to the wars. But if we do not see
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: that our enemy is socialism and communism, then we're actually
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: going to manifest the very thing that we don't want,
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: the thing that we lived through for four years under
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: the Joe Biden administration, where you wanted to have a
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: misinformation board to censor our speech, vaccines mandated, EVs mandated.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: That's where we're going. And we need to quit picking
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: on the daily things that the Trump administration does. And
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: we need to get our messaging back on the right
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: track there, Dr.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Mike.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Well, what we need to do is to do things
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: in a commonsensical way. Now, both sides in the House
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: of Congress are supporting this thing about go into jail
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: if you criticize the Israelis. What do you do about that?
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: And the other thing is, I tell you the truth,
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: the common wisdom in the historical record says you get
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: beat up bad sometimes in the midterms. Now, this past week,
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: at least from what I heard on the media, Trump
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: endorsed 38 candidates or 37 candidates in the primaries and
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: all of them won. And Massey lost because he's in
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: a personal battle with Trump. And these Jewish Americans came
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: in and put in, as Colonel Mike said, $ 33 million. Now,
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: if 37 people got elected that Trump endorsed, there must
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: be something to the support in this country for him.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: And I've still not seen Anything that suggests to me
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: that going back to where we were is what people want.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: The fly in the ointment, I think, for Trump is
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: gasoline prices, food prices, housing prices or the lack of housing.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: And when you're when you're dicking around with foreign wars,
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: I guess you don't have enough time. But it goes
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: back again to, you know, the power is here at home.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: It's not over there. And if you don't pay attention
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: to those price things, it makes a big difference to Americans.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Mike, let me jump in here. OK, it all boils
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: down to it's in it's the economy, stupid. And that's
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: where we are. Booker, we're back to, you know, when
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: when Clinton was president, it's the economy, stupid. People are
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: going to vote pocketbook. OK, we did many shows. We
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: did many shows before Trump was elected. We were hoping
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: him was elected because look what we had for the opposition.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: It was Kamala and the Democrats. However, you know, now
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: you look at we called our shows the lesser of
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: the two evils. OK, but we were hoping that we
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: would get 50 percent to 70 percent of what he
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: spoke about. You know, then there was assassination attempts and
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: so on. And again, it's not what we were promised. Now,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: we don't we know they lie and they lie a lot.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: You know, we have the Ayatollah Lindsey Graham who keeps
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: getting elected again. What is a rhino?
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: People say, oh, Republican in name only.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: No, these these rhinos are actually Democrats posing as Republicans.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: That's what they're doing, because it's always crossing the aisle.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: My friend, you know, John McCain was bomb, bomb, bombing
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: around a long, long, long time ago. Right. Lindsey Graham, others,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: you know, Tom, you could you could pick them off. Now,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: here's what's going to happen. It's going to happen again
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: this midterm. Do you want to have the Democrats come back,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: the socialists, the communists, the AOC, the Bernie Sanders.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: Who are basically big time capitalists?
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: But they don't tell you that, you know. Or do
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: you want to have, you know, good conservative values, church
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: values with Ted Cruz? You know, Both lie. And what
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: we really need is a clean sweep. We need both
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: parties to disintegrate. I wish we had a parliament system
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: for this election where we could do a snap election
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: and just get rid of them. You know, term limits,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: we talk about it for years. These people are there
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: too long. They're tied at the hip. And, you know, listen,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: I'd love to see the Republicans win and get a majority.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: But look what we got, Booker.
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: We have the majority now and they're not working.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: They're not doing much. All they do is talk about
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: war and spending for war. And that ain't happening. And
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: the young vote, it's always going to go to the
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Democrat until they figure out they're paying taxes. You understand?
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. You know, if you go back and look
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: at last year, you look at the things that were
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: being done for the economy, you had inflation at 1.7 percent.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: You had wage growth at 4, 4.2 percent, which that
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: gets to affordability. You don't want the cost of things
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: to come down, because then you're dealing with deflation. And
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: that's probably a recession, if not a depression, to get
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: prices to come down. So you want wage growth to
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: go up. That was happening until the government shutdown of
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: 43 days last fall. Then you had another government shutdown.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: And both of those things affected GDP and the economy
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: greatly before you ever get to Iran and what is
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: happening now. Now, here's the issue. People will say the
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Democrats shut down the government. That's what the Republican talking
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: points are. However, the Republicans had a responsibility to fund
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: the government prior to September 30th last year to make
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: sure that there was no government shutdown. And I know
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: that as a government, we don't do that anymore, but
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: that's on them. We should do that. The Republicans, as
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: you mentioned, they had the control, they had the power,
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: they had the gavel, but they didn't do that. And
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: that only takes 51 votes to pass an omnibus in
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: a reconciliation. And if they're not working on that right now.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: to pass before September 30th, it doesn't matter what any
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: of us think or anyone that's listening to this thinks,
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: because the Republicans will get mopped up in the midterm
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: if the government is shut down September 30th going into
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: that election. And that's what's coming up. And more important
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: than the SAVE Act would be that that reconciliation with
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: all 12 appropriations be passed right now before September 30th.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: So the Democrats can't control another government shutdown because that
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: will truly destroy any chance that the Republicans have to
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: hold on to power in the House, which is something
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: all three of us want.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Well, that's likely the case. I agree with you entirely.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know what to do about it.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: Me either. Colonel Mike, you got any suggestions? You usually
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: have a suggestion.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, they're going to have to have a
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: better message. Mike and you were speaking about Virginia a
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: few minutes ago. We contacted the comms director for Winston Sears. Booker,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: that was one of the best campaigns if you would
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: have had it.– you had all the DEI. You had
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: a woman born outside the country. You had a woman
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: that was naturalized. You had a woman that was a Marine.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: You had a woman– That was the lieutenant governor. She
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: had all of the things going. Minority. They didn't message it. Yeah, correct.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: They didn't message it. They had the best package. And
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: the morons that we contacted, we'll get back to you,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: putting her on Fox 10 times a day or five
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: times a day, people on Fox would have voted for her.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: People who are the Fox viewers. You needed to go
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: out there. Yeah, she went Southside. which is the blue
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: collar and the Republican vote. But she had to go
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: right into the inner city and say, for years, you
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: want a black woman, you want a woman, you want
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: to break the glass ceiling. I'm here. I'm here right
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: in front of you. Tell me what you don't like.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Because I got an R on my shirt? See, they
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: didn't message that correctly. She should have wiped the streets
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: with a blonde white woman from New Jersey who was
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: really a carpetbagger. Mark Warner, New Jersey. Tim Kaine, somewhere
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: in New England. All of these people came down to
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Virginia the last 40, 50 years, and they basically carpetbagged it,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: and they brought all that type of ideology to Virginia.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: So it was a campaign to lose. They had the campaign.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: They just– Republicans in Virginia, whether they're in northern Virginia,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: which is the blue area– or the Norfolk area, what they,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: what they call the Newport news and that area in
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: South Southeast, it's all blue. You had to get in
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: their face. You had to get in their face and say, what's,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: what's not black about me.
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: What's not female about me.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, the fact that I like a gun, the fact
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: that I like pro-life, you know, I mean, she should
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: have been, but they didn't, they didn't market her correctly.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's why we have what we have in Virginia.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Here's a couple of, I want to get your thoughts
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: real quick before the end of the hour on, Last Tuesday,
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: here are two things I want to share with you
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: in my analysis of the election there the 19th of May.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: You had Pennsylvania and Georgia, both large states, a lot
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: of registered voters. They both have open primaries, which means
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: when you go to the polls, you can choose. I
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: want to vote the Democrat ballot or I want to
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: vote the Republican ballot. Here are two numbers I want
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: people to understand. This is why that the midterms is
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: going to be a problem. You had 52.5% Democrats in
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Georgia and only 47.5% Republican. Democrats are energized. They're going
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: to vote. The Republicans are not. And Georgia was a big,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: big turnout. It was a record for an off-year midterm.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: In Pennsylvania, same thing. Open primary. You can go choose
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: which one you want. And there were two governors running unopposed.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: You have the incumbent, Josh Shapiro, and then you have
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: Stacey Garrity running unopposed for the Republicans. Josh Shapiro beat
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: her 1.1 million to 600,000. It's a problem. We're not
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: going to vote.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Dr.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Mike, go ahead.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is a problem. And until he gets rid
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: of the war, he's running out of time. And he's
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: also been, I think, particularly unfortunate in some of the
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: things he said without thinking. And I never should be
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: one that talks, but I have a little bit better
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: control of my tongue. It's a big uphill battle. Though,
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: if he can can this war... There's a lot of
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: stuff he can do, perhaps, to get people looking at
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: him again, especially if the war brings what he says
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: it will, a crash of prices.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: But that's not going to happen.
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: That's not going to happen.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: Look, Poker, we know solid Republicans that have been on
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: our show recently that can't wait for him to lose.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: They want him to be locked up.
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: They want him to be impeached.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: This is what we're hearing from people, former military officials,
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: former people in the government, they're like, I'm done with him.
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: It's the oldest word.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: That's a common saying. I'm done with that. I'm done
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: with him. People are done. They're done. You can't make
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: excuses anymore. If we're going to get recycled Democrats with
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Republican name only, people are done with it. They're like, okay,
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: if you're not going to do anything for us when
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: you're in power, who gives a damn what comes in?
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: And let me tell you something. What comes in if
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: we lose, is going to be something we've never seen
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: in our lifetime.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: That's an imminent threat.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: That is an imminent threat.
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: To the Constitution, to the Republic.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're going to go all out. It's going
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: to be a massacre, you know, while he's in government,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: which we would never want to talk about with Hunter Biden, right?
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is, you know, you got the average
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: American out there pumping the gas. You got to go
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: to the street. When you go to the street and
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: you talk to people, you'll know what the effects are, okay?
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: We've got data centers up the yin-yang, the most dangerous
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: thing for our society, and he don't say a damn word.
• 54:41
  Speaker 6: And now we have tyranny in the state governments, Booker.
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: What they're doing now, the state governments are approving all
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: these data centers. They're overriding the local community, I'm sorry,
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: local counties.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: They're saying to the county, hey, never mind, this is
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: economic development. You have nothing to say And they're even
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: passing bills now in the state delegations, in the state
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: houses of states, where you cannot even ask how the
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: deal went down. You cannot even ask who's going to
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: pay for the electric. You cannot ask how the water–
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: it's against the law. You know what? That's tyranny.
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: So we go to Paul Engel, our other friend.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: On americaoutloud.news, and you've got to use the Constitution. And
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: that may mean torches and pitchforks outside county buildings, outside
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: statehouse buildings saying, you're fired. You're fired. Sorry. We're not
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: waiting for the next election cycle. We're not a parliamentarian.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: We can't do the snap. But guess what? This pitchfork
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: and this torch, this is a message. You're fired. You
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: cannot put these things in our backyard without— we have to
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: vote on this. This is a republic. Who died and
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: left you, boss?
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: Well, that was a very fast hour. It flew by.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: I wish we had two hours. Ben Franklin said, it's
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: a republic if you can keep it.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: If you can keep it.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: And do the American people have the intestinal fortitude to
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: show up with a pitchfork and say, you're fired? I
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: am not so sure. But I know this. You were
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: told 2,000 years ago that you are the salt of
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: the earth. And salt without flavor, it has no value.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: So whatever you do, keep being salty. Have a great night.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: There is only one truth. You've been listening to The
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Truth Be Told with Booker Scott on America Out Loud.