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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. The so called Moscow Mule
- 0:09Speaker 1: Mom has been granted a delay in her murder case.
- 0:14Speaker 1: I'm talking about the children's book author Cory Richins, a
- 0:20Speaker 1: mother of three who police say fatally poisoned husband Eric Richins,
- 0:25Speaker 1: then wrote a children's book about grieving. I'm Nancy Grace.
- 0:29Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
- 0:32Speaker 1: The judge in Corey Richins's murder case, aka Moscow Mule Mom,
- 0:37Speaker 1: granted a delay in the trial so defense attorneys can
- 0:40Speaker 1: argue for seeding Assault Lake County jury in Summit County.
- 0:46Speaker 1: The judge paused all proceedings in Richard's murder case. Following
- 0:51Speaker 1: hours of argument on whether to bring a Salt Lake
- 0:56Speaker 1: County jury to Summit County or the trial. Third District
- 1:02Speaker 1: Judge Richard Raysik ruled to keep the trial in Summit
- 1:06Speaker 1: County with Summit County gerrrs, despite defense attorney's concerns about impartiality.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Richard's attorneys want to appeal that decision, so they asked
- 1:17Speaker 1: the judge to delay the trial. It was set to
- 1:20Speaker 1: go April twenty eight. That's not happening. The prosecutors did
- 1:25Speaker 1: not oppose the motion. To appeal the judge's decision. Now,
- 1:31Speaker 1: let me explain the judge rule to keep the trial
- 1:34Speaker 1: in some county where the incident occurred with Summit County girrars.
- 1:41Speaker 1: The defense wants to bring in gerrrs from another jurisdiction
- 1:45Speaker 1: for impartiality. That happens a lot. They want Girrars brought
- 1:48Speaker 1: in from Salt Lake County. What happened in the case, now,
- 1:54Speaker 1: believe it or not, after authorities allege that she poisons
- 2:00Speaker 1: her husband dead, the father of her children, by giving
- 2:05Speaker 1: him a moscow mule laced with a huge od a fentanyl. Now,
- 2:11Speaker 1: according to reports, what is found in her room the
- 2:18Speaker 1: written script. She's trying to cram down the throats of
- 2:22Speaker 1: family to paint her as innocent. Ouch. That's terrible when
- 2:29Speaker 1: the cops ransack yourself and they find you tampering with witnesses,
- 2:33Speaker 1: and I hate when that happens. I'm Ansy Grace. This
- 2:35Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here
- 2:38Speaker 1: at Crime Stories and on Serious sexem one eleven. I
- 2:41Speaker 1: just want you to hear Corey Richardson. I don't get it.
- 2:45Speaker 1: She's a sex successful realtor. She flips these mega mansions
- 2:49Speaker 1: and makes all kinds of money. She's got a husband
- 2:53Speaker 1: who's not cheating, working, supporting the family, beautiful children, and
- 3:00Speaker 1: beautiful home. Why this, but I want you to hear
- 3:05Speaker 1: it from the horse's mouth. Take a listen to Corey
- 3:09Speaker 1: Richins describing why she wrote a kid's book. Listen to
- 3:13Speaker 1: Crime Online. I'm new to all of this.
- 3:15Speaker 2: Corey Richins appeared on Good Things You Tah, a lifestyle
- 3:18Speaker 2: TV program, to talk about her book on grief. She
- 3:22Speaker 2: says she's done lots of research to help not only
- 3:24Speaker 2: herself but her children cope with the loss of Eric
- 3:27Speaker 2: Richinds husband and father. Richard says what has helped her
- 3:30Speaker 2: family are the three seeds.
- 3:32Speaker 3: The three seeds, you know, connection, continuity, and care.
- 3:37Speaker 2: Richard says, it's important to make sure the spirit of
- 3:40Speaker 2: your lost loved one is alive in your home by
- 3:42Speaker 2: bringing up memories, talking about the person, and doing things
- 3:46Speaker 2: that person loved to do.
- 3:47Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well, her husband, her dad, husband's memory is
- 3:51Speaker 1: going to be coming up a lot in her murder trial.
- 3:56Speaker 1: But what about this script has been found in her
- 4:01Speaker 1: cell And wait a minute before I go any further.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Elaine Ardivius is with US Senior crime reporter with the Messenger.
- 4:11Speaker 1: Isn't it true that the woman has just come forward?
- 4:16Speaker 1: I believe she worked for the family, a housekeeper who
- 4:20Speaker 1: sold the Moscow mule mom Corey Richins, who allegedly sold
- 4:25Speaker 1: her the fentnel she used to poison her husband. Hasn't
- 4:28Speaker 1: that just happened?
- 4:29Speaker 4: Yes, they do have texts between Corey and the housekeeper
- 4:37Speaker 4: where Corey is requesting sentinel or she's requesting, you know,
- 4:44Speaker 4: the heavy drugs more of and so that has come
- 4:49Speaker 4: out that the housekeeper basically was dropping off drugs at
- 4:54Speaker 4: various locations allegedly for Corey.
- 4:58Speaker 1: That h housekeeper's future test stimony does not jive with
- 5:02Speaker 1: the story that this grief stricken mom is writing a
- 5:06Speaker 1: grief book to help her children to keep the husband's
- 5:09Speaker 1: memory alive. You know what, she can say it better
- 5:13Speaker 1: than me. Let's listen to more of Corey Richards from
- 5:16Speaker 1: Crime Online.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Richins, appearing on Good Things You Talk, said, it's important
- 5:20Speaker 2: to explain to children that just because a parent, in
- 5:22Speaker 2: Richard's case, the father isn't present physically, that doesn't mean
- 5:26Speaker 2: their presence isn't with the children.
- 5:29Speaker 3: He's doing these things with us, and he's you know
- 5:32Speaker 3: here for birthdays, and he's here for Christmas.
- 5:34Speaker 2: Richard says, Now it's just comforting for her children to
- 5:38Speaker 2: know they're not living this life alone.
- 5:40Speaker 3: Dad is still here. It's just in a different way.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Yeah, murdered according to prosecutors. I'm about to jump into
- 5:47Speaker 1: the ransacking of Corey Richard's cell and finding the script,
- 5:52Speaker 1: but I just want you to hear more of Corey
- 5:54Speaker 1: Richards speaking out about how much she wanted to console
- 5:59Speaker 1: her grieving little children. And just so you know those children,
- 6:03Speaker 1: three little boys at the time, Carter nine, Ashton seven,
- 6:08Speaker 1: and Western five. You know, it would have really helped
- 6:11Speaker 1: them in life if they still had their dad alive. Okay,
- 6:15Speaker 1: but no, that's not going to happen. That said more
- 6:19Speaker 1: again from the horse's mouth. Listen our friends, crime alone.
- 6:24Speaker 2: Richard says, it's the family traditions that are hard for children,
- 6:28Speaker 2: such as the parent typically with the child on the
- 6:30Speaker 2: first day of school, helping the child cope with what
- 6:33Speaker 2: they're facing. She said in her appearance on Good Things
- 6:36Speaker 2: You Taught that acknowledging those types of things not only
- 6:39Speaker 2: gives her peace, but the children as well.
- 6:42Speaker 3: It's been a lot of peace for my kids. You know,
- 6:45Speaker 3: to really remember that in the back of their head
- 6:47Speaker 3: that they're never alone.
- 6:48Speaker 1: My rear end, doctor Bethany Marshall joining me renown psycho
- 6:52Speaker 1: Ana was joining us out of la at doctor Bethany
- 6:55Speaker 1: Marshall dot com. Never alone, according to police, She's there
- 7:00Speaker 1: a reason that they are alone.
- 7:03Speaker 5: You know, Nancy sociopaths like her, They do evil things
- 7:07Speaker 5: and they try to undo them. They do and they undo.
- 7:09Speaker 5: So she kills their father and then she tries to
- 7:12Speaker 5: undo it by saying, oh, it's okay, He's always with you. Also,
- 7:17Speaker 5: this woman tries to monetize every thing, you know, She's
- 7:22Speaker 5: always trying to make a buck, always trying to get
- 7:24Speaker 5: more money. I think that's one of the motivations for
- 7:26Speaker 5: killing her husband. Get it out of the way so
- 7:28Speaker 5: she can make more money. I think the children's book
- 7:31Speaker 5: is just another way to monetize his death.
- 7:33Speaker 1: And you know what, I want to pick up what
- 7:35Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall just said about the money. Elaine Otivias
- 7:40Speaker 1: is with US Senior Investigative Crime Report with the messenger Elene.
- 7:44Speaker 1: I'm about to jump into the manuscript, as they are
- 7:48Speaker 1: euphemistically calling it. Sees from her jail sale, but there
- 7:53Speaker 1: is so much money motive. They had a prenup, but
- 7:59Speaker 1: she didn't like the pre nup. He had a very
- 8:01Speaker 1: very successful business that he built up from scratch. Then
- 8:05Speaker 1: there was the issue of flipping this mega mansion. She
- 8:08Speaker 1: wanted to buy this mega mansion and then flip it.
- 8:11Speaker 1: He opposed it, and then he dies and within seven
- 8:18Speaker 1: days or so, she flips the mansion and then throws
- 8:21Speaker 1: a big party, a boozed up party to celebrate the
- 8:25Speaker 1: flip with her husband cold in the grave.
- 8:27Speaker 4: That's right, she repeatedly is acquiring money. In fact, when
- 8:37Speaker 4: her husband died, the sister of the husband went to
- 8:42Speaker 4: the house and Corey was already taking things out of
- 8:46Speaker 4: the safe. There are things missing that cannot be accounted
- 8:51Speaker 4: for that's considered valuable and assets. So over and over
- 8:57Speaker 4: there is a pattern of her trying to get more money.
- 9:01Speaker 1: You know. Donna Kelley is joining me. Former Utah Senior
- 9:05Speaker 1: Deputy District Attorney, lawyer for Crime Victims Legal Clinic. She
- 9:11Speaker 1: also helped form the Utah County Sex Crimes Task Force.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Donna Kelly, I know that after my fiancee was murdered
- 9:21Speaker 1: shortly before our wedding, he was on baseball scholarship, and
- 9:26Speaker 1: I wanted one thing. I wanted his baseball that he
- 9:30Speaker 1: and I would practice with throw pitch back and forth.
- 9:35Speaker 1: And I still have it. I see it every morning.
- 9:39Speaker 1: I'm just curious about your reaction to immediately immediately after
- 9:45Speaker 1: her husband's death, she is in the safe getting out
- 9:51Speaker 1: whatever assets she can find.
- 9:53Speaker 6: It's very disturbing, Nancy. It is very disturbing, and she
- 9:57Speaker 6: had an ongoing dispute and her had an inkling that
- 10:02Speaker 6: this was happening and made it changes in his will
- 10:05Speaker 6: to give things to his family as opposed to Corey Richards.
- 10:18Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. In addition to the jury argument,
- 10:27Speaker 1: prosecutors want an orange notebook admitted into evidence, saying it
- 10:32Speaker 1: bears directly on Corey Richinds the Moscow Mule Mom's actions
- 10:39Speaker 1: regarding Eric rich and her husband's death. They say the
- 10:43Speaker 1: first five pages of the notebook contained the defendant's handwritten
- 10:46Speaker 1: journal detailing the events of March three through four, twenty
- 10:50Speaker 1: twenty two, the night Eric Richins died. Prosecutors say Riches
- 10:56Speaker 1: admitted she wrote the Orange notebook, that it is her
- 10:59Speaker 1: handwriting and contains information that only she would know, but
- 11:05Speaker 1: I want to get to what was found in Corey
- 11:11Speaker 1: Richard's cell. Listen to our cut five Dave Mack.
- 11:16Speaker 2: The Walk the Dog Letter is a six page handwritten
- 11:18Speaker 2: letter that Corey Richins wrote for her mother. Prosecutors claimed
- 11:22Speaker 2: the letter instructs her mother and brother to give false
- 11:24Speaker 2: testimony in the case. According to emotion filed in court.
- 11:28Speaker 2: In the letter, Richards wrote, quote this comes down to jealousy,
- 11:31Speaker 2: money and Eric's partying that they don't want to acknowledge,
- 11:34Speaker 2: and sadly, an accidental overdose unquote. The prosecutors have asked
- 11:39Speaker 2: the judge to restrict Richards from further engaging in witness
- 11:42Speaker 2: tampering by restricting her from contacting her mother and brother.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Defense attorney Skyla Zarro filed a brief accusing the prosecutors
- 11:50Speaker 2: of breaching a gag order in the case when they
- 11:52Speaker 2: filed the letter titled Walk the Dog as part of
- 11:55Speaker 2: their motion.
- 11:56Speaker 1: Okay, Elaine ativis tell me what everything about the so
- 12:01Speaker 1: called Walk the Dog Letter.
- 12:04Speaker 4: The Walk the Dog Letter, first of all, is named
- 12:07Speaker 4: that because at the top of the letter, in huge
- 12:12Speaker 4: type all caps, she wrote, walk the Dog. I think
- 12:17Speaker 4: you can sort of take from that that she was
- 12:19Speaker 4: giving instructions to whoever this letter was written for, the
- 12:25Speaker 4: state alleges that she was writing it to her mom
- 12:28Speaker 4: with instructions of what to say. Hence the state is
- 12:33Speaker 4: alleging witness tampering.
- 12:36Speaker 5: But this letter really sort.
- 12:38Speaker 4: Of talks about you know, it's almost like this what
- 12:43Speaker 4: if you know, and talking about what the drugs were
- 12:47Speaker 4: for and how this accidentally happened. But in a conversation
- 12:53Speaker 4: that she had with her brother, she's alleging that it's
- 12:55Speaker 4: part of a fiction mystery novel. Okay, what pet She
- 12:59Speaker 4: says that it's part of a fiction mystery novel.
- 13:03Speaker 1: I'm so happy, Elaine out of Eus. You just made
- 13:07Speaker 1: me a very happy former prosecutor. So they are addressing
- 13:13Speaker 1: the Walk the Dog six page letter that was found
- 13:17Speaker 1: in her jail cell. And by the way, apparently when
- 13:19Speaker 1: they came to and they found that she went into
- 13:21Speaker 1: some kind of a seizure. Never had a seizure before
- 13:24Speaker 1: in her life, we've been told, But when they found
- 13:27Speaker 1: that six page letter in her jail cell, she apparently
- 13:30Speaker 1: suffered a seizure. Rich AND's the Moscow Mewle mom claims
- 13:35Speaker 1: the letter is trudging her mom to say her husband
- 13:38Speaker 1: odeed on drugs from Mexico, claims it is for a
- 13:41Speaker 1: book she planned to write. How is that part of
- 13:47Speaker 1: a book she planned to write, Elaine out of Eus.
- 13:51Speaker 1: What does that have to do with the book? What's
- 13:53Speaker 1: the plot of the book.
- 13:54Speaker 4: Well, here's what's interesting. So the they released the trend
- 14:00Speaker 4: script that she had between her and her brother, and
- 14:03Speaker 4: in that conversation that she had with her brother, she
- 14:07Speaker 4: explains that this she's written a sixty five page novel
- 14:12Speaker 4: and it's all about, you know, from the detention hearing
- 14:18Speaker 4: and what happens. And then she gets out of jail
- 14:23Speaker 4: and she and her father go to Mexico where they're
- 14:26Speaker 4: dealing with a ranch and a cartel. She's saying this
- 14:30Speaker 4: that this is part of a sixty five page novel,
- 14:32Speaker 4: but that the jail deputies they pulled out this six
- 14:38Speaker 4: page letter. She's claiming that this letter is actually part
- 14:43Speaker 4: of a bigger novel and that they're picking and choosing,
- 14:48Speaker 4: and on top of it all, she also claims that
- 14:51Speaker 4: she wrote a letter on top of it, saying that
- 14:56Speaker 4: this is part of you know that events have been changed,
- 15:00Speaker 4: but based on true, you know, situations that have happened
- 15:04Speaker 4: to her and what kills me is that it was
- 15:08Speaker 4: hidden inside an Elsat book.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Law school admissions test manual. Now, the damning letter appears
- 15:17Speaker 1: to instruct someone to tell Corey Richins's brother, Ronnie, to
- 15:23Speaker 1: say he had been talking to the dead husband about
- 15:27Speaker 1: his ships to Mexico and that the dead husband revealed
- 15:31Speaker 1: he had been given pain pills and fentanyls from workers
- 15:35Speaker 1: on the ranch. Okay, let's hear some more. Take a
- 15:41Speaker 1: listen to investigative reporting team from crimeonline dot Com.
- 15:45Speaker 2: KYU TV says in the Walk of the Dog letter,
- 15:47Speaker 2: Corey Richins allegedly wants her brother to say Eric Richins
- 15:51Speaker 2: told him he got pain pills and fentanyl from Mexico
- 15:54Speaker 2: through workers at a ranch. She allegedly points out how
- 15:58Speaker 2: Ronnie's testimony could make the connection of Eric and drugs.
- 16:01Speaker 2: In the letter, Corey Richins allegedly says the testimony quote
- 16:05Speaker 2: can be short and to the point, but has to
- 16:08Speaker 2: be done unquote. Richins also tells her mother to pass
- 16:12Speaker 2: information to her brother in person, telling her mother her
- 16:14Speaker 2: home and phone could be bugged.
- 16:17Speaker 1: So pass the information verbally and in person because the
- 16:20Speaker 1: home and phone could be bugged. Let's get to the
- 16:25Speaker 1: crux of this entire scenario, and that is the gruesome death,
- 16:30Speaker 1: the horrible death of a very loving, thirty nine year
- 16:34Speaker 1: old dad who was working like a dog to support
- 16:39Speaker 1: Corey Richins and their mega mansion and their three little
- 16:44Speaker 1: boys as young as age five. This is what happened.
- 16:50Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at crime Online.
- 16:52Speaker 2: According to court documents, Corey Richins called police to their
- 16:55Speaker 2: Utah home where her husband, Eric Richins, was found dead
- 16:58Speaker 2: in the early morning hours of Mark four, twenty twenty two.
- 17:01Speaker 2: Investigators said Corey had given Eric a drink a moscow
- 17:04Speaker 2: mule before he went to bed. She then spent part
- 17:07Speaker 2: of the night with one of her three children, who
- 17:09Speaker 2: had a nightmare, according to court documents. In her written
- 17:12Speaker 2: statement the night of his death, she said when she
- 17:15Speaker 2: returned to their bedroom at approximately three am, he was
- 17:18Speaker 2: cold to the touch and she called nine one one.
- 17:20Speaker 2: It was later determined that Eric had five times the
- 17:23Speaker 2: lethal dose of fentonyl in his system, which officials said
- 17:27Speaker 2: have been ingested orally.
- 17:28Speaker 1: Joining me right now is the world's premier authority on
- 17:33Speaker 1: fentanyl and fentanyl ingestion and fentanyl OD and also how
- 17:40Speaker 1: to revive someone from a fentanyl overdose. Doctor William Maroney,
- 17:46Speaker 1: the author of American Narcan, Malaxone and Heroin Fentanyl Associated Immortality.
- 17:54Speaker 1: This guy, this doctor, is using his medical degree to
- 18:00Speaker 1: people with fentanyl addiction, to the point he has invested
- 18:05Speaker 1: his own money and all his years of education and
- 18:08Speaker 1: experience to create a traveling mobile unit to help those
- 18:15Speaker 1: addicted to fentanyl. Doctor William Roney, this whole story stinks
- 18:21Speaker 1: to high heaven. But first of all, explain what happens
- 18:27Speaker 1: when you get a fentanyl OD. What happens, What do
- 18:31Speaker 1: you experience?
- 18:32Speaker 7: Well, however you ingest it, if you swallow it, if
- 18:35Speaker 7: you snort it, if you inject it, whatever happens. It
- 18:38Speaker 7: goes to your brain, goes in your blood, goes to
- 18:41Speaker 7: your brain, and it goes to a place in your
- 18:44Speaker 7: brain that controls your breathing. And slowly you breathe shallow, infrequent,
- 18:55Speaker 7: less and less, and you suffocate. You go through asphyxia.
- 19:02Speaker 7: You lose all your oxygen and your heart stops pumping
- 19:06Speaker 7: it and you stop breathing. And it's got to be
- 19:10Speaker 7: one of the scariest things in the world. It's like
- 19:15Speaker 7: being locked in a tomb darkness. You can't get out.
- 19:19Speaker 7: And your body doesn't work, and your muscles don't work,
- 19:22Speaker 7: and you get weaker and weaker, and eventually, if you
- 19:28Speaker 7: can be reached with narcan before your final breath, narcan
- 19:37Speaker 7: can get in your system and push the fentanel off
- 19:40Speaker 7: your brain, kind of like pulling fuzzies off your sweater,
- 19:46Speaker 7: and you start breathing again. But if you don't have
- 19:49Speaker 7: the nark can, you die and you stop breathing in
- 19:53Speaker 7: two to three minutes, and you have six minutes before
- 19:57Speaker 7: there's irreversible image in your brain. We get a lot
- 20:02Speaker 7: of people at the hospital that have been sentinel overdoses
- 20:05Speaker 7: and the families keep them around for a couple of days.
- 20:07Speaker 7: They keep them on ventilators hoping they're coming back, but
- 20:10Speaker 7: the brain dead. So you really need that intervention early.
- 20:15Speaker 7: You need all pain and addiction patients in America should
- 20:20Speaker 7: have narc hand in their home. And you know what
- 20:22Speaker 7: Theanna Scotch truth is, everybody with small children should have
- 20:27Speaker 7: nark hand in their home for accidents because this fentanyl
- 20:30Speaker 7: stuff is everywhere. It's on dollar bills, it's in other drugs.
- 20:37Speaker 7: It could be coming out of grocery stores or things
- 20:41Speaker 7: that you touch at the gas station. We're in a
- 20:44Speaker 7: fentanyl crisis. This is not an opioid crisis. Sentanyl is
- 20:50Speaker 7: so far out of control it's equivalent to a weapon
- 20:54Speaker 7: of mass destruction.
- 20:55Speaker 1: Doctor Moroney to say, I had a fentyl overdose. What
- 21:00Speaker 1: have you ever been asleep and you're trying to wake
- 21:04Speaker 1: up but you can't wake up? Or what they like
- 21:08Speaker 1: being inside a coffin and little by little you know
- 21:12Speaker 1: you're dying and you run out of air and talk
- 21:17Speaker 1: to me in regular people talk, Dr Morrooney me, what
- 21:21Speaker 1: would he Richan's experience?
- 21:25Speaker 7: All of the people I know that have come to
- 21:27Speaker 7: me that have overdosed onun sentinel, but they got the
- 21:29Speaker 7: nark and they came back and now they're in treatment
- 21:31Speaker 7: with medication assistant treatment. They all say there's a rush
- 21:35Speaker 7: of heat in the body as the fencanel goes through
- 21:39Speaker 7: the bloodstream, and then slowly you lose all consciousness what
- 21:45Speaker 7: you described with sleep paralysis where you're kind of in
- 21:49Speaker 7: bed and you can think, but you can't move. Sometimes
- 21:53Speaker 7: you can't talk. Not being able to breathe is got
- 21:59Speaker 7: to be the scariest thing in the world. I would
- 22:02Speaker 7: rather be cut in half. It smashed through the car
- 22:05Speaker 7: and shot one hundred times and lid on fire than
- 22:07Speaker 7: not being able to breathe. If you can't breathe, nothing
- 22:11Speaker 7: else matters. And the idea that somebody would put sentinel.
- 22:16Speaker 7: The toxic dose of fentanyl is two milligrams. That's equivalent
- 22:24Speaker 7: to twelve to fourteen granules out of a salt shaker
- 22:30Speaker 7: at the breakfast diner. If you shake salt on the
- 22:34Speaker 7: table and you can get ten or twelve or fourteen granules,
- 22:40Speaker 7: that's enough fentanyl to kill you, And a full teaspoon
- 22:44Speaker 7: is enough to kill everybody in the room.
- 22:46Speaker 1: Well, I gotta tell you, doctor Moroniey, I saw report swear.
- 22:50Speaker 1: I believe it was a lady cop was on a
- 22:53Speaker 1: crime saying and she nearly died because the report was
- 22:58Speaker 1: she touched sentinel unwittingly. And I thought, wow, that doesn't
- 23:03Speaker 1: ring true to me, because I've in court handles so
- 23:06Speaker 1: many drugs with my bare hands and nothing ever happened.
- 23:11Speaker 1: But it actually is true, isn't it.
- 23:14Speaker 7: It is, And it is the amount of fentanyl that
- 23:17Speaker 7: touches the skin and gets absorbed. It's happened in the
- 23:21Speaker 7: deputies in the surrounding counties around us, all the deputies
- 23:25Speaker 7: try to carry two in our hands. One is for
- 23:28Speaker 7: patients or you know, when they're chasing people down or
- 23:32Speaker 7: drug overdoses, and one is for their partners. We have
- 23:36Speaker 7: to have in our cands and even gloves. Sometimes you
- 23:41Speaker 7: got to be careful because those masks are a joke
- 23:44Speaker 7: with ventanyl. They don't stop federoyl but people touching crime scenes,
- 23:50Speaker 7: turning envelopes over.
- 23:52Speaker 1: So that is what is being discussed here. That Eric
- 23:56Speaker 1: rich And is the data of three odd on fentanyl.
- 24:00Speaker 1: But now, what about a moscow mule? Justin Bordman, just
- 24:04Speaker 1: In Time, former detective in this jurisdiction, Utah West Valley CITYPD,
- 24:09Speaker 1: now Boardman's training and consultant. Justin Boardman, what's a moscow mule?
- 24:15Speaker 8: Well, moscow mule is one of my favorite beverages. But
- 24:18Speaker 8: it would be of vodka and ginger beer with a
- 24:23Speaker 8: twist of water.
- 24:24Speaker 1: Now ginger beer we all had at Universal in Harry
- 24:28Speaker 1: potter Land. It's very tangy. I love it. It's not
- 24:34Speaker 1: actually beer, it's or is it beer? Because children can
- 24:38Speaker 1: get it? Maybe it's more ginger than anything else. In
- 24:42Speaker 1: Ginger has a very strong taste which would conceal fenl.
- 24:49Speaker 1: I mean yes, no, dodgor marooney, Yes, no. Does fentyl
- 24:53Speaker 1: taste like anything fent Fenil's bitter.
- 24:55Speaker 7: You need to have some strong, pungent, sour sweet flavoring.
- 25:00Speaker 1: Like ginger beer. Okay, So justin boardman. The working theory,
- 25:05Speaker 1: I mean, you're the detective. This is your jurisdiction. The
- 25:09Speaker 1: theory is that she put fentanel a huge od amount
- 25:14Speaker 1: into the ginger beer.
- 25:15Speaker 7: Yes, no, yes, And that's the theory.
- 25:18Speaker 8: That it was taken orally and was hidden in the
- 25:21Speaker 8: Moscow mule that he had that evening and passed from.
- 25:27Speaker 1: We're never going to know if she handed him that
- 25:31Speaker 1: glass or if he just drank it on his own.
- 25:33Speaker 1: But that's when you fall back on circumstantial evidence. Take
- 25:39Speaker 1: a listen to.
- 25:40Speaker 2: This evidence gathered revealed Corey claim she didn't have access
- 25:44Speaker 2: to her phone that night. She said it was left
- 25:46Speaker 2: on the charger by her bed while she was in
- 25:48Speaker 2: another room tending a sick child. However, a data dumb
- 25:52Speaker 2: shows rich AND's phone was in use during the time
- 25:54Speaker 2: her husband was dying and that sent messages had been deleted.
- 25:58Speaker 2: Additional evidence showed rich was in contact with a drug
- 26:01Speaker 2: dealer in Ogden. Leading up to her husband's death, The
- 26:04Speaker 2: legal document state she received both hydro codone pills and
- 26:08Speaker 2: fentanyl from the dealer. The claim was that the drugs
- 26:11Speaker 2: were intended for a client experiencing back pain, even specifically
- 26:15Speaker 2: asking for quote the Michael Jackson stuff unquote meaning fentanyl.
- 26:20Speaker 2: Information from the autopsy report determined Eric Richards died from
- 26:23Speaker 2: an overdose of fentanyl five times the lethal dosing.
- 26:34Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace Moscow mel Mom, Corey Richins's
- 26:41Speaker 1: trial on hold until an appeal over a change of venue.
- 26:47Speaker 1: Now what they actually want is they want jurors bust
- 26:51Speaker 1: in from another venue. They want the trial to still
- 26:55Speaker 1: be held in Summit County. Back to that Orange notebook,
- 27:00Speaker 1: Secutors say the first five pages contain details about the timeline,
- 27:05Speaker 1: Moscow Mule Mom's movements and what Eric Richins consumed before
- 27:10Speaker 1: he died, among other critical information. These details, when compared
- 27:17Speaker 1: to other evidence in the case, they say, make it
- 27:20Speaker 1: more probable Corey Richins poisoned Eric Richins with fentanel. Prosecutors say,
- 27:29Speaker 1: quote nobody forced or coerced the defendant to write the
- 27:33Speaker 1: Orange Notebook. The defendant holds a master's degree, She journaled,
- 27:38Speaker 1: risking the likelihood detect us would find it and recognize
- 27:42Speaker 1: it for what it is. If there is any prejudice attached,
- 27:45Speaker 1: it is entirely fair and well earned. Wow will it
- 27:52Speaker 1: come into evidence? What more do we know about the
- 27:55Speaker 1: night Eric Richins died? Elaine out of this winning a
- 28:00Speaker 1: senior investigative crime reporter with the messenger, Elaine again, thank
- 28:04Speaker 1: you for being with us. You know the cover up
- 28:07Speaker 1: is deadly in this case deleting text messages. You know what,
- 28:15Speaker 1: My phone can barely work. I've got so many emails
- 28:18Speaker 1: and text messages on it. I never think to delete anything.
- 28:21Speaker 1: I mean there are messages on there for twenty fifteen
- 28:24Speaker 1: and sixteen. Yes, So the fact that you suddenly have
- 28:29Speaker 1: the urge to delete a bunch of text and emails,
- 28:32Speaker 1: which of course anybody can get from the cloud. But
- 28:36Speaker 1: that said, explain to me, Elaine outvis She said her
- 28:41Speaker 1: phone was in a different room, that that night, of
- 28:44Speaker 1: all night she went and slept with her boys while
- 28:47Speaker 1: her husband died killed over in the other room. But
- 28:51Speaker 1: yet when authority searched, they found out the phone was
- 28:54Speaker 1: actually in use the entire time, and that those particular
- 29:00Speaker 1: had been deleted. Do I have that right? Could you
- 29:02Speaker 1: explain that plase a line?
- 29:04Speaker 4: Yes, I think you know a lot of times, especially
- 29:07Speaker 4: you know with all the shows we see in all
- 29:09Speaker 4: these previous cases we see you know, before you know,
- 29:13Speaker 4: they try to do they tried to take care of everything.
- 29:17Speaker 4: You know, they they have googled, you know, how do
- 29:21Speaker 4: I clean up this or whatever, and somehow they always
- 29:26Speaker 4: forget about the phone. The phone has the ability to
- 29:31Speaker 4: be tracked because everyone has like find my phone, or
- 29:35Speaker 4: you know, the cell towers.
- 29:37Speaker 1: They can see movement.
- 29:38Speaker 4: They can you know, when when investigators, they have forensic investigators,
- 29:43Speaker 4: when they subpoena your phone and they start going through it,
- 29:47Speaker 4: they can see when it turned on, when it moved,
- 29:50Speaker 4: all of these things. And so I think, you know,
- 29:54Speaker 4: we will find out more about it in court when
- 29:57Speaker 4: forensic investigators explain what they found. But thus far we
- 30:02Speaker 4: know that the phone was in use, so which puts
- 30:06Speaker 4: a crack in her story already a big crack.
- 30:08Speaker 1: Because you've got your phone, you can call nine one
- 30:10Speaker 1: one immediately. And does that mean she wasn't really even
- 30:14Speaker 1: in the children's room when she's right there watching the
- 30:16Speaker 1: husband die. Dona Kelly joining me former Utah Senior Deputy
- 30:20Speaker 1: District Attorney. This jurisdiction, Dona Kelly, the deleting, the text
- 30:28Speaker 1: and the emails, the phone movements, it reminds me significantly
- 30:34Speaker 1: the Alex Murdock double murder prosecution, where he was charging
- 30:37Speaker 1: the murder of his wife Maggie and son Paul. The
- 30:41Speaker 1: forensic evidence showed that he was at the dog kennels
- 30:45Speaker 1: where his wife and son were murdered riddled with bullets.
- 30:50Speaker 1: Because of his cell phone and because of another cell
- 30:53Speaker 1: phone video it placed him there. The phone then followed
- 30:58Speaker 1: him to his vehicle. The phone traveled with him and
- 31:02Speaker 1: his wife, Maggie's phone, then her phone is thrown out
- 31:05Speaker 1: of the car, linked with the navigation system in his vehicle.
- 31:10Speaker 1: I believe it was a suburban. It shows every move
- 31:14Speaker 1: he made from letting the windows up and down, to
- 31:18Speaker 1: the speed, to the ignition turn, you name it. Technology
- 31:23Speaker 1: is a very powerful tool and the prosecutor's arsenal Donna Kelly.
- 31:28Speaker 6: Absolutely. And the reason that jury's loved this kind of
- 31:32Speaker 6: evidence is it's very objective. It doesn't have a bias,
- 31:36Speaker 6: it doesn't have an agenda, it's just there. And so
- 31:40Speaker 6: that evidence is very powerful to a jury, and it
- 31:45Speaker 6: also shows the consciousness of guilt that the person has,
- 31:50Speaker 6: for example, in deleting messages, you know immediately that sort
- 31:55Speaker 6: of thing, So it can show you know, the movement
- 31:58Speaker 6: and the messages that went in and out, but it
- 32:01Speaker 6: can also show consciousness of your own guilt.
- 32:04Speaker 1: HM, you're right, So to stay well. Then began looking
- 32:09Speaker 1: at other circumstantial evidence contemporaneous around the time of the death.
- 32:15Speaker 1: Take a listen to this.
- 32:17Speaker 2: After Eric Richinds's death, Corey Rigins hired a locksmith to
- 32:20Speaker 2: open Eric's safe. Between one hundred and twenty five thousand
- 32:23Speaker 2: and one hundred and sixty five thousand dollars was reportedly inside.
- 32:26Speaker 2: When Eric Richard's sister told her sister in law she
- 32:29Speaker 2: didn't have the rights to those funds, Corey Rigins punched her.
- 32:33Speaker 2: Eric Richins had also opened a living trust and placed
- 32:37Speaker 2: the trust as his life insurance beneficiary instead of Corey.
- 32:41Speaker 2: We now know Corey had purchased at least four life
- 32:44Speaker 2: insurance policies on Eric Richins, with death benefits of over
- 32:48Speaker 2: a million dollars.
- 32:49Speaker 1: Okay. Doctor Bethany Marshall renounced Psycho Allen's joining us out
- 32:53Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills. I tell you one thing. If my
- 32:56Speaker 1: husband David Lynch goes out and takes four life insurance
- 32:59Speaker 1: policies out on me, uh uh and uh, We're splitting
- 33:05Speaker 1: up at that moment, and I'm taking the twins period.
- 33:09Speaker 1: You can have everything else except those twins for life
- 33:14Speaker 1: insurance policies.
- 33:15Speaker 5: What you know, Nancy, When I when I listen to
- 33:17Speaker 5: this story, I so I think of Corey Richards as
- 33:21Speaker 5: suffering what I affectionately term the Casey Anthony syndrome. Every lie,
- 33:27Speaker 5: every maneuver, every motive is so flagrantly transparent, and from
- 33:35Speaker 5: a mental health perspective, she's probably suffering from what we
- 33:38Speaker 5: call cluster b cluster B is when you have sociopathy.
- 33:42Speaker 9: Are you saying cluster cluster, cluster like a cluster bomb? Okay,
- 33:48Speaker 9: So when you have sociopathy, borderline personality disorder and potentially bipolar,
- 33:55Speaker 9: I don't even.
- 33:56Speaker 1: Know what you're saying. Blah blah blah blah blah. She's gravy,
- 34:00Speaker 1: she wants money. What are we talking about? Cluster what?
- 34:03Speaker 5: Okay? So sociopathy, they lie, they can, they manipulate, they
- 34:08Speaker 5: have parasitic lifestyle. So there you have the money motive,
- 34:12Speaker 5: borderline personality disorder, there's clinging and rejecting behavior. They can
- 34:16Speaker 5: plot and plan forever, bi polar where they get in
- 34:21Speaker 5: such a certain type of mood where they feel no
- 34:23Speaker 5: guilt or consciousness or remorse. So she has all these
- 34:28Speaker 5: things swirling around, and that's why this story just gets
- 34:32Speaker 5: crazier and crazier. And like Casey Anthony, everyone from the
- 34:36Speaker 5: outside looking in can say, that's a lie.
- 34:39Speaker 6: That's a lie.
- 34:40Speaker 5: That's a lie, that's a lie. How can she not
- 34:43Speaker 5: know that we know she's lying? And that's what happens
- 34:47Speaker 5: with these kinds of personalities. They don't see in themselves
- 34:50Speaker 5: what we see in them. And that's why the family
- 34:54Speaker 5: went over to check the safe. That's why they caught her,
- 34:57Speaker 5: is that they had been observing this for a long
- 35:01Speaker 5: long time.
- 35:02Speaker 1: Well, there's more to the money motive. And I can't
- 35:05Speaker 1: wait for doctor Moroney to jump in on how many
- 35:07Speaker 1: dead body sees autopsied that are dead because of money motive.
- 35:13Speaker 1: Listen to this.
- 35:14Speaker 2: Investigators say Eric Richins was looking into a divorce. He
- 35:17Speaker 2: had recently changed his will and life insurance from his
- 35:21Speaker 2: wife to his sister. Two friends told detectives that Eric
- 35:24Speaker 2: Richins was worried Corey would kill him for the money
- 35:27Speaker 2: and wanted to ensure that his kids were taken care
- 35:29Speaker 2: of financially. Even as Corey Richins was promoting her children's
- 35:33Speaker 2: book about grief on local television, investigators were looking into
- 35:37Speaker 2: the couple's troubled past.
- 35:39Speaker 1: I've watched that interview a million times and never once
- 35:42Speaker 1: did this woman shit a tear. Doctor William Maroney, renowned
- 35:47Speaker 1: medical examiner. The love of money the root of all evil.
- 35:53Speaker 1: What do you think about that, Maroni.
- 35:54Speaker 7: It's really a good reason. It's at the top of
- 35:57Speaker 7: the list. Money is. It's like worse than love and
- 36:01Speaker 7: infidelity because you can just enjoy it all by yourself.
- 36:05Speaker 7: It's sinful, and it's in every culture, and it's in
- 36:09Speaker 7: every country, and whether it's male or female, it's always
- 36:14Speaker 7: about the money. And what I'm really worried about somebody
- 36:18Speaker 7: this reckless. People will reproduce this and what happens. Fentanyl
- 36:24Speaker 7: is so dangerous. She could have accidentally killed her children.
- 36:29Speaker 1: You're right, the three little boys in the same Huh,
- 36:32Speaker 1: what if one of them are taking a sip of
- 36:34Speaker 1: that moscow mule?
- 36:35Speaker 7: Even if they would have touched fentanyl on the counter,
- 36:38Speaker 7: or there was fentanyl dust and something like that is
- 36:43Speaker 7: just to poison somebody with fentanyl when they're small children
- 36:47Speaker 7: in the room. That's insane.
- 36:49Speaker 1: Sentanyl dust. Remember morony, doctor moroney. We just covered the
- 36:53Speaker 1: case of a little one year old boy who died
- 36:56Speaker 1: in a daycare from sentinyl in New York dust. Other
- 37:00Speaker 1: key rulings in the past days, the judge ruled any
- 37:04Speaker 1: statements Riches made to Detective Maynard and Detective Woody while
- 37:10Speaker 1: her house was being searched cannot be used in the case. Why,
- 37:15Speaker 1: He says rich and statements would be protected by the
- 37:18Speaker 1: Fifth Amendment right to remain silent since no one at
- 37:22Speaker 1: that juncture had yet given her her Miranda rights ouch.
- 37:28Speaker 1: In the same ruling, he says info found in her
- 37:31Speaker 1: white iPhone can be used at trial. She gave detectives
- 37:37Speaker 1: her password. The defense had argued the iPhone would be
- 37:41Speaker 1: protected under the Fourth and Fifth Amendments. The judge found
- 37:44Speaker 1: police had a warrant for the phone and that Riches
- 37:48Speaker 1: gave the phone to detectives. What more do we know
- 37:53Speaker 1: about Eric Richands's death? This is not the first time,
- 37:57Speaker 1: according to LA Law Enforcement that r Richards tried to
- 38:01Speaker 1: murder her husband. Listen to in the investigative reporting team
- 38:06Speaker 1: at Crime Stories.
- 38:07Speaker 2: Valentine's Day twenty twenty two, Eric Richards becomes violently ill
- 38:12Speaker 2: after suffering an allergic reaction after having dinner with his
- 38:15Speaker 2: wife of nine years, Corey. He breaks out in hives,
- 38:18Speaker 2: can't Breathe passes out after using his son's EPI pen
- 38:21Speaker 2: and taking benadrel. When Eric wakes up, he calls his
- 38:24Speaker 2: business partner, Cody Wright to let him know what has
- 38:27Speaker 2: just happened. Then, without Corey knowing, Eric changes the beneficiary
- 38:32Speaker 2: of his will and his power of attorney, replacing his
- 38:35Speaker 2: wife Corey with his sister. Legal paperwork suggests that Eric
- 38:40Speaker 2: believes Corey might kill him for the money, and he
- 38:44Speaker 2: wants his children to be financially secure.
- 38:46Speaker 1: Kind of reminds me of Caltman Laurie Valo. Her husband
- 38:51Speaker 1: was afraid that she would kill him, so he changed
- 38:55Speaker 1: a lot of his financial setup away from her, and
- 39:03Speaker 1: she killed him anyway, had him killed anyway, not knowing
- 39:08Speaker 1: that she was no longer his beneficiary. That said, this
- 39:12Speaker 1: reminds me of another incredible case. And you know I
- 39:17Speaker 1: couldn't make this up. Do you remember the name Dahlia Dippolito,
- 39:22Speaker 1: reportedly a former escort who marries the victim. She sets
- 39:30Speaker 1: up a hit. She sets up a shooting hit to
- 39:35Speaker 1: kill him and get money in a town home. But
- 39:38Speaker 1: of course she sets it up with an undercover agent
- 39:41Speaker 1: and he's got it all on tape, planning to kill
- 39:44Speaker 1: her husband. Dahlia Dippolito so apparently she tried to kill
- 39:49Speaker 1: him before in a poisoned Starbucks latte of some sort.
- 39:54Speaker 1: Didn't work, so she tries again. According to him, he
- 39:57Speaker 1: lives the The undercover agent stops the hit, but they
- 40:02Speaker 1: pretend to her this is a sting that they're coming
- 40:08Speaker 1: to tell her her husband has been attacked and he's dead.
- 40:12Speaker 7: Now.
- 40:13Speaker 1: Meryl Streep, I love you, lady, but move over because
- 40:18Speaker 1: Dahlia Dippolito may beat you out for your next oscar.
- 40:22Speaker 1: Listen to Dahlia Dippolito reacting to niece her husband is dead.
- 40:27Speaker 1: I'm Sergeant Ramsey. I'm the one to call you. Thank
- 40:30Speaker 1: you for comment. I'm sorry to call you.
- 40:31Speaker 7: Listen, we had to report of a disturbance at your
- 40:33Speaker 7: house and there were shots fired as your husband Michael, okay,
- 40:37Speaker 7: I'm sorry to tell you man, he's been killed. He's
- 40:41Speaker 7: been killed.
- 40:47Speaker 1: Right now.
- 40:48Speaker 7: We need to get the can't look man, we have
- 40:54Speaker 7: to do our job.
- 40:55Speaker 2: If you want the finest killer, we need you to
- 40:58Speaker 2: calm down.
- 41:00Speaker 1: Need you to go with these defectives.
- 41:01Speaker 7: Okay?
- 41:02Speaker 6: Does he have enemies?
- 41:03Speaker 7: Is there anyone who would want to hear? Okay, you
- 41:06Speaker 7: would want to hurt him withiness? Said he saw a
- 41:08Speaker 7: blackmail running from me. I can't let just need them them.
- 41:11Speaker 7: I cannot do this right now.
- 41:13Speaker 5: I can't.
- 41:16Speaker 1: I need you.
- 41:16Speaker 7: I need you to take there to the stations. I
- 41:19Speaker 7: can't man, go with these detectives. If you want to
- 41:21Speaker 7: help your husband, okay, if you want to help your husband,
- 41:23Speaker 7: you need to go to the station with these gentlemen
- 41:26Speaker 7: and tell us everything.
- 41:27Speaker 2: You know about who he knows, who's connected to.
- 41:29Speaker 7: Don't worry. We've already taken care of dogs with animal
- 41:31Speaker 7: control for right now. Everything's under control.
- 41:34Speaker 1: There's more, but I just listen to that all day.
- 41:38Speaker 1: Did you hear that, Donna Kelly? That was Dollia Dipolito
- 41:42Speaker 1: when she's told her husband's dead, he's not dead.
- 41:46Speaker 10: Uh.
- 41:46Speaker 1: Later at the police station, they're questioning her and he
- 41:48Speaker 1: walks by. He goes Hi, you tried to kill me.
- 41:52Speaker 10: But in this case, now we're getting this very long
- 41:56Speaker 10: letter for obviously Corey Rich's Moscow Mule Mom is trying
- 42:01Speaker 10: to convince her family to lie about her husband traveling
- 42:05Speaker 10: to Mexico to get these drugs.
- 42:07Speaker 6: Yes, that evidence is going to be explosive and very
- 42:12Speaker 6: powerful in front of the jury, and compounding the actual
- 42:18Speaker 6: letter is also the evidence that she's trying to manufacture
- 42:23Speaker 6: excuses for writing it. She says, at first it was
- 42:28Speaker 6: written for her lawyer's benefits, so it's privileged. Well, that's
- 42:32Speaker 6: obviously a lie because write in the letter she refers
- 42:35Speaker 6: to her lawyer by name, you know, tell my brother
- 42:39Speaker 6: to go talk to the name of her lawyer. So
- 42:42Speaker 6: obviously it's not written for the lawyer. But also then
- 42:46Speaker 6: now she had to concoct a new lie because that
- 42:50Speaker 6: one didn't fly. So you have not only the letter
- 42:53Speaker 6: with the instructions of how to lie, but you have
- 42:57Speaker 6: her excuses for writing it, which compounds again shows her
- 43:03Speaker 6: consciousness of her own guilt.
- 43:05Speaker 1: While she's having some type of a seizure, guard search
- 43:09Speaker 1: her cell find a copy of a bombshell letter instructing
- 43:12Speaker 1: her own mother to fuel conspiracy theories that her dead
- 43:17Speaker 1: husband had a drug problem and overdosed. He was at
- 43:20Speaker 1: work every day, working trying to pay for that mega
- 43:24Speaker 1: mansion they were living in. In the letter, she reportedly
- 43:27Speaker 1: asked her for the mother to get her brother to
- 43:31Speaker 1: concoct a story. The husband, a year before his death,
- 43:35Speaker 1: secretly told the brother he would get pain pills and
- 43:38Speaker 1: fentanyl from a ranch hand in Mexico. She wrote that
- 43:42Speaker 1: she would also say her husband asked the caterer, an
- 43:46Speaker 1: alleged drug dealer, to hook him up with more, when
- 43:50Speaker 1: actually that housekeeper caterer says that she, Corey Richins, is
- 43:55Speaker 1: the one wanting the money. So this is an incredible
- 44:01Speaker 1: development in the case. And oh, by the way, I
- 44:04Speaker 1: don't know if you guys knew this, but justin Boardman
- 44:08Speaker 1: in the dahliat Dippolito case. She then claimed something similar
- 44:13Speaker 1: to what Moscow Mule Mom is saying. She claimed that
- 44:15Speaker 1: was a script. It was all a setup. They were
- 44:18Speaker 1: all acting for a reality show. The way Corey Richards
- 44:23Speaker 1: is saying, Oh, that letter telling everybody what to say
- 44:27Speaker 1: about my husband being a dope head, that was part
- 44:30Speaker 1: of a manuscript. That's a ticket, a manuscript of a
- 44:33Speaker 1: book I was writing, It's not going to work.
- 44:36Speaker 8: No, that is a lot of drama, if you will.
- 44:42Speaker 8: It also reminds me of a case that was investigated
- 44:47Speaker 8: a couple of cubicles over from my own, and that
- 44:50Speaker 8: was the Susan and Josh Powell case where Susan had
- 44:54Speaker 8: put a letter in her work file at work that
- 44:58Speaker 8: if she disappeared or died, that Josh probably did it.
- 45:03Speaker 8: It's very interesting to me to see these sort of
- 45:09Speaker 8: people get these intuitions that they might get off by
- 45:13Speaker 8: their significant other like he did.
- 45:15Speaker 1: As well, he really did. And you can read the
- 45:19Speaker 1: entire letter at crimeonline dot com. But it goes on
- 45:25Speaker 1: to say, if you could read it, it says, I
- 45:30Speaker 1: need Eric. Eric told Ronnie he gets pain pillars from Mexico.
- 45:38Speaker 1: You may have to testify to this. Romney should have
- 45:43Speaker 1: gotten text from Eric talking about getting high. I mean,
- 45:48Speaker 1: it goes on and on describing what would help her
- 45:54Speaker 1: if they said it on the stand.
- 45:56Speaker 5: Nancy, can I please jump in, Well know, not only
- 46:01Speaker 5: is she witnessed hampering, but this is one more example
- 46:05Speaker 5: of criminals in broiling their families and their crimes. They
- 46:08Speaker 5: don't just take themselves down, they take everyone else down
- 46:11Speaker 5: around them.
- 46:12Speaker 1: I mean, if you read it, it goes on to
- 46:16Speaker 1: talk about how you may have to testify to this,
- 46:20Speaker 1: maybe something like he gets high every night and won't
- 46:25Speaker 1: help take care of the kids. It just goes on
- 46:29Speaker 1: and on and on.
- 46:30Speaker 5: Remember Casey Anthony accused her brother and her father of
- 46:33Speaker 5: molesting her, and you know all these things. There's this
- 46:36Speaker 5: thoughtless attitude, there's this callous disregard for family members. So
- 46:41Speaker 5: the family members are used just as much as she
- 46:44Speaker 5: used her husband, she used the press, she used her
- 46:47Speaker 5: own children without any thought to the consequences.
- 46:50Speaker 1: The so called Moscow Mule Mom has been granted a
- 46:55Speaker 1: delay in her murder case. In other rulings, the judge
- 46:59Speaker 1: said statement Richinds made to detective of driscal can be
- 47:03Speaker 1: used at trial. The defense had argued a Driscoll knew
- 47:07Speaker 1: Richins had an attorney and questioned her without her attorney present.
- 47:11Speaker 1: The judge says Richins was not in custody at the
- 47:15Speaker 1: time and had invited the detective into her home and
- 47:19Speaker 1: expressed willingness and gratitude to be able to speak with
- 47:23Speaker 1: detectives and did not ask the officers to leave. So
- 47:27Speaker 1: therefore the Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination would not apply.
- 47:33Speaker 1: That faithful evening has ruined the lives of the Richings children.
- 47:38Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfolds. Goodbye friend,