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You Look Like You Need Pie (S1, E4 “The Deer Hunters”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in. I kiss you. I am all
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  Speaker 1: in with Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast. All right, hey, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: Scott Patterson here, I am all in podcast. You were
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  Speaker 1: in the right place for Gilmore stuff. Uh so, welcome, welcome, welcome,
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  Speaker 1: and thanks for being here. Listen. We're gonna get into
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  Speaker 1: the mean Girls at Chilton a little bit with our
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  Speaker 1: guest here, Shelley Cole. And you know she played Madeline
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  Speaker 1: beautifully and you've got uh, you know that you've got
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  Speaker 1: that troika of mean girls uh at Chilton and led
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  Speaker 1: by uh, the the ever abrasive yet brilliant Paris played
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  Speaker 1: by Liza Oil and uh and also Louise was part
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  Speaker 1: of that about played by Teal Redmond so so beautifully
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  Speaker 1: and uh and we're going to get into it right now.
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  Speaker 1: Was Shelly Cole, who played Madeline. Hey, Shelly, how are
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  Speaker 1: you welcome to the podcast? How are things going? I
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  Speaker 1: am living in Denver. Things are great. I am passed
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  Speaker 1: through COVID completely unscathed. Um, my business has come through
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  Speaker 1: completely unscathed. Uh And I mean life is good. I
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  Speaker 1: just bought a house. I've got my monkey dog here
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  Speaker 1: with me. So you teach your teaching acting. You have
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  Speaker 1: an acting school that's so interesting. Yeah. Kids, you would
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  Speaker 1: never know from my character on Gilmore Girls. Uh, but
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  Speaker 1: because she's just so fluffy and funny and odd. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I I love it. It's kids, kid uh and um
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  Speaker 1: it is the great love of my adult life. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I was teaching as well when when I got Gilmore,
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  Speaker 1: I had I had a kid's class on Saturday, which
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  Speaker 1: I did not teach. I had my ex girlfriend, who's
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  Speaker 1: master actress, teach the kids because I didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: deal with the parents. The parents gettle very you know.
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  Speaker 1: You know they're six, seven, eight years old. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think do you think my daughter has what it takes?
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  Speaker 1: I said, she's eight. Okay, relax. My philosophy is definitely not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make stars out of these kids.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to help them find their voice and
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  Speaker 1: whatever comes out of it. Yeah. Anyway, So looking, let's
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  Speaker 1: get into the episode a little bit. Okay, just watched
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  Speaker 1: it yesterday. Yeah, probably, I think for the first time.
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  Speaker 1: Me too. I've never seen it before. Yeah, it's funny.
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  Speaker 1: You and I are in it very little, very little,
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  Speaker 1: which is kind of fun because it's it's not even
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  Speaker 1: really about I like the I like your bit with
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  Speaker 1: the pie, like think exactly. So it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if she throws a pencil, it's a pie. If she
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  Speaker 1: throws a pen it's a trout. That kind of yeah,
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  Speaker 1: eating trout. I don't know why. It's just a wacky line, right,
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  Speaker 1: it's a wacky line he was capable of having. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he did have a sense of humor about um. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and your first encounter, the first time we see you
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  Speaker 1: is in uh is in that scene where Rory gets
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  Speaker 1: a D. Correct, Yeah, I think that's the first time, right,
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  Speaker 1: And so I think that's the only scene really that
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to maybe see. I don't know. Uh, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Uh she gets the D and Paris
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  Speaker 1: does her thing. You know, you gotta name what's her name?
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  Speaker 1: Louise is her friend Louise Grant, Yeah, Louise and uh
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  Speaker 1: and you gotta be which is right? I respectable? You know,
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  Speaker 1: even even I really love I mean, I think all
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  Speaker 1: stimately the fans really want lare Lie to end up
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  Speaker 1: with Luke. I mean I think that's the kind of
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  Speaker 1: the through that's like the end game and always there
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  Speaker 1: in present, But I think that fans really likes uh,
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  Speaker 1: Scott Cohen, um, Max Max for a for a hot
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  Speaker 1: minute and um and interestingly you really as a as
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  Speaker 1: a viewer, UM, I really started to feel for f
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  Speaker 1: Rory and her struggle and how un there and you know,
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  Speaker 1: the headmaster and that whole like dismissal and I'm so angry,
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  Speaker 1: M so well, we'll get into that, but I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think what Amy did was she planted
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  Speaker 1: that seat. She made Max so likable, and she cast
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  Speaker 1: Scott Cohen, who was so incredibly talented and likable guy
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  Speaker 1: um anyway, um and such just a terrific actor. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but she planted that seed with him that I think
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  Speaker 1: kind of hurt the character by making him inappropriate because
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  Speaker 1: he leaves that and we'll get to it, but he
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  Speaker 1: leaves that message on the answering machine at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the show, and it's a message for Rory like
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna get the extra credit. You're gonna get the opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: Your mom came in and called everybody ill douche, and
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  Speaker 1: she wants we're gonna we're gonna give Rory another chance
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  Speaker 1: and get her up to speed with the extra credit.
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  Speaker 1: And then he at the end of the message, he
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  Speaker 1: leaves a message for for Laura la saying that it
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  Speaker 1: was God, where are my notes? Um, Laura, Laura Lae.
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  Speaker 1: It was a pleasure encountering you. I hope it happens again.
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  Speaker 1: And he knows that Rory's gonna hear that message. Why
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  Speaker 1: don't you about it until you just brought that up?
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  Speaker 1: But you're right, that is actually very inappropriate, inappropriate appropriate.
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  Speaker 1: So as great as that character is and as great
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  Speaker 1: guys it is, Um, that's you know, that's the fly
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  Speaker 1: in the ointment right there, that that the writers planted. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well you know, okay, this is my little quick side note. UM.
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  Speaker 1: After I think, and obviously I think many A couple
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  Speaker 1: of years after I was done this show, Scott Cohen
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  Speaker 1: and I Um were cast in a pilot together a
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  Speaker 1: series Regulars. He played my Dad. It got picked up
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  Speaker 1: and there were six episodes filmed, was called Friend's Room,
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  Speaker 1: but it never aired. Um, but one of the one
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  Speaker 1: of the guys that made that writes for Modern Family,
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  Speaker 1: created Danny's let me ask you, alf where where was Chilton?
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  Speaker 1: And what was Chilton like in in your experience? Where
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  Speaker 1: was it? It was my first job, so I had
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  Speaker 1: it was I just where was it? What do you
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  Speaker 1: mean do you mean like? Where? Where was it? It
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  Speaker 1: was in Connecticut. It in like a heart first, it's
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  Speaker 1: a bus ride out there. So what was it like?
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  Speaker 1: What was that place like for you the actress? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I mean actually, where physically was it in l A?
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  Speaker 1: Where did you shoot it? For a couple of different places.
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  Speaker 1: Most of it was on the sound stage sound stage
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  Speaker 1: before I think, um, but the exterior where was it?
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  Speaker 1: The exterior and some of the interior stuff, Um, was
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  Speaker 1: at both the wilshirt Ebel Theater, but primarily it was
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  Speaker 1: at the gray Stone Mansion. Drive always loved filming there.
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  Speaker 1: It was because Eliza and Teal and I. Whenever we
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  Speaker 1: filmed there, there was all these little like do not
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  Speaker 1: pass this way. There's a lot of places that were
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  Speaker 1: cut off in that mansion, right and Um, we would
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  Speaker 1: always break the rules and and explore. There's not a
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  Speaker 1: history in that mansion, like life kind of ghostie history
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  Speaker 1: in that man. I think we shot that. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: shot the graduation over there. I remember that now. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was a great location where everybody was in tears.
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  Speaker 1: Remember everybody was crying. We'll get to that episode. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know a couple of years from now, but um um,
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  Speaker 1: but you're in You were in your twenties when you
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  Speaker 1: got the show, right, so you're filming playing a teenager
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  Speaker 1: in your you were twenty seven at a time. I
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  Speaker 1: think Lane, I think that Kiki and I were both
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  Speaker 1: like the same manage. You were both blew in my
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  Speaker 1: mind when I found that out. Amazing. So, yeah, you've
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  Speaker 1: got a twenty seven year old, uh in Lane working
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  Speaker 1: with an eighteen year old and their peers. It was
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  Speaker 1: amazing acting job. Um. So was that similar to your
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  Speaker 1: high school experience? I mean the children experience versus the
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  Speaker 1: versus the Shelley real life high school. I grew up
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  Speaker 1: in Texas. I went to clear Lake High School. Um
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  Speaker 1: it was it was definitely a rich high school. I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't rich, I was poor, but I went to a
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  Speaker 1: rich high school. And um but it was just it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a private school or anything. I mean, Chiltern was
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  Speaker 1: so buttoned up and perfect. I remember when we were
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  Speaker 1: doing a wardrobe fitting before the even shooting Episode one four,
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  Speaker 1: Episode one, Uh, we all had to go to some
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, seamstress's shop and get fitted for all
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  Speaker 1: the Chiltern outfits, and they had to match Alexis eyes.
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  Speaker 1: I remember that was something very specific that may mean
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  Speaker 1: like I said, you have to match Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, yeah, everything was kind of perfect
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  Speaker 1: at Chiltern. And I think, you know, Laurel I really
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  Speaker 1: says it when she's when she you know, I duch
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  Speaker 1: right right? U put what does that mean? I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what that means. That was in reference to the
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  Speaker 1: Italian a dictator exactly, Muscelane. I love in this episode
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  Speaker 1: how everyone keeps saying, what you hit a deer? No,
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  Speaker 1: and Lore like the only one that is, like, here's
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  Speaker 1: Rory when she says I got hit by a deer.
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  Speaker 1: You got hit by a deer. Everyone else says you
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  Speaker 1: hit a deer, and their connection with each other that
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  Speaker 1: have you ever been hit by a deer? I mean
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  Speaker 1: you're in Colorado now, so there's a lot more dear,
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  Speaker 1: you have been hit by a deer? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was up way in the Olympic Peninsula off outside
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  Speaker 1: of Seattle, and I saw the deer coming. I saw
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  Speaker 1: it coming and I was like, oh shoot, I've got
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  Speaker 1: like two choices here. I can hit all my brakes
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  Speaker 1: or speed up. So I hit the gas as at
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  Speaker 1: the card as post able and to the deer hit
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  Speaker 1: the side of my car, uh in the back and
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  Speaker 1: and put a big dent in it. But much like Rory,
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  Speaker 1: I pulled over. Im just like crying, searching through the
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  Speaker 1: woods to find this deer. And I saw no sign
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  Speaker 1: of the deer for as far as I could walk,
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  Speaker 1: because I was more concerned about the deer than my car.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it was okay because I didn't find it.
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  Speaker 1: So and when did that happen? What year did that happen? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: let's see, it wasn't before the show, so it was
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  Speaker 1: after the show. It was like two thou seven. I
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  Speaker 1: was up there people. And so it's not like Amy
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  Speaker 1: found out about it somehow and then put it in
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  Speaker 1: an episode. It's like, you know, life imitates art, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that scene had that episode had such an effect on you, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: but I've never seen it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: We're dealing with mysticism at this point. So it materialized
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  Speaker 1: in your own life. Wow, it did. And I was
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  Speaker 1: at the table read obviously that's solid. That's how strong
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  Speaker 1: the writing is. I think that people always talk about
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  Speaker 1: people always ask I'm sure they ask you, why is
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  Speaker 1: this show still so you know, mainstream and popular? And
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  Speaker 1: it's because you're because you and I were in it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's why. I mean, I mean that's that's
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  Speaker 1: that's the obvious answer, right the writing fan make this
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  Speaker 1: for me? I look at that. Wow, that's cool. Fans
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  Speaker 1: make the greatest things. The fan artist is amazing. So
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  Speaker 1: was it easy playing somebody younger? Ten years younger, eleven
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  Speaker 1: years younger? What what was that like from an acting
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  Speaker 1: point of view? What was that like for you? I've
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  Speaker 1: never played my age ever, um, So I think I
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  Speaker 1: was also doing an episode of this show as the guardian,
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  Speaker 1: um and I was playing a fourteen year old, right, like,
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  Speaker 1: I think this was my first job, and that was
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  Speaker 1: my second job. It was first episode seven years old
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  Speaker 1: playing a fourteen year old, or twenty playing a fourteen
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  Speaker 1: year old girl. And I've always said roles that were
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  Speaker 1: younger than me, So it wasn't really. But I've never
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  Speaker 1: played a character like Madeline before or after. He was
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  Speaker 1: just you know, a whole time zone all of her own, right, right?
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  Speaker 1: Did you think Chad Michael Murray was dreamy? No? I
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  Speaker 1: get why they did. I did, absolutely, But you know,
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  Speaker 1: he and Teal were both young, like til seventeen he
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  Speaker 1: started and he so mean, Jared was eighteen. I think
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  Speaker 1: Chad was eighteen, wasn't he when they were kids? I
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  Speaker 1: think so, they were just kid But I didn't. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't find him dreamy just because he's I like dark
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  Speaker 1: haired guys, no offense to the blonde men in the world.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I thought, I thought you knew
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  Speaker 1: who I thought was dreamy. Well, never mind, come on,
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  Speaker 1: this is the this is the place they to talk
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  Speaker 1: about it. I mean, you're in a safe space. You're
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  Speaker 1: in a safe space here here. I thought I thought
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  Speaker 1: Scott was a dreamy Scott Cohen. Yeah, okay, yeah, there
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  Speaker 1: there you go. A lot of people did. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 1: I thought Jared was pretty dreamy too, Jared, Jared and Scott,
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  Speaker 1: of course you the dreamiest of the dreams. Well you're welcome.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna make me blush. I mean, God's sake, putting
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  Speaker 1: me in the class of a Scott Cohen and a
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  Speaker 1: Jared For God's sake, I mean, um, so Madeleine's best
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  Speaker 1: friends Paris. Was it difficult for you playing the best
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  Speaker 1: friend of somebody who was so mean a mean girl.
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  Speaker 1: You were you were, you were a mean girl. You
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  Speaker 1: were associated girl for like a hot second and then
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  Speaker 1: Amy just started to change her tune and started to
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  Speaker 1: write Madaline to be Nice, which I loved. Um but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: being you know, I've never been a mean girl in
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  Speaker 1: my life, never in high school or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: And um, so it was just it's all in good fun,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's it's all in good fun. And were
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  Speaker 1: there what so what were the days like, uh, working
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  Speaker 1: with Liza when she had those speeches and she was
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  Speaker 1: being soming because a lot of you know, the challenge
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  Speaker 1: of acting is reacting when you're not heavily and then
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  Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of dialogue in the scene,
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  Speaker 1: and you did that really well in that brief moment
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  Speaker 1: we first saw you with a day and you're sort
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  Speaker 1: of not on your head back and you're kind of agreeing,
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  Speaker 1: but then you say, I don't understand what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Paris said, well, Rory does you know? So it's a
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  Speaker 1: perfect set up line. Um, So, so tell me about
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  Speaker 1: those days working with Paris and what that was like
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  Speaker 1: for you working with her. That was so long ago,
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  Speaker 1: that was back in the day when um, you know
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  Speaker 1: Liza and I. Liza and I turned out to be
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  Speaker 1: really good friends for a long long time, and that
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  Speaker 1: was the beginning of our friendship because she and I
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  Speaker 1: were much closer than age in age than Teal uh,
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  Speaker 1: and so I was always had great on screen chemistry
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  Speaker 1: with Teal, but not I mean we weren't friends outside
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  Speaker 1: of um whatever and so, but Eliza and I were
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  Speaker 1: really best friends for a very long time. I was
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  Speaker 1: at her wedding, UM and these were but working with
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  Speaker 1: Liza on set versus hanging out with her outside of
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  Speaker 1: of of work were very different experiences. On set, she
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  Speaker 1: was really intense. I mean like she walked on set
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  Speaker 1: and she was in her character and so, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't we didn't pole around. Oh we did in
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  Speaker 1: between takes and setups and stuff like that. But she
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  Speaker 1: was really intense with her character. And she would always
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  Speaker 1: do this little clearing thing with her throat or something
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  Speaker 1: when she was like sort of getting into her character
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  Speaker 1: when she was just going inside of herself. And she
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  Speaker 1: did that a lot. She went inside of herself, UM,
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  Speaker 1: and she really was that character. I mean, she just
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  Speaker 1: when she was on set, she was that character, and
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  Speaker 1: she was so intense and she did an amazing job.
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  Speaker 1: She knew so focused, and she had some very difficult
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  Speaker 1: dialogue to do. And I was always shocked me whenever
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  Speaker 1: you would just and lit a little, little, little little
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  Speaker 1: and just get it out. And then I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I said that. Oh that was
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  Speaker 1: really hard. Um, And then she still let's go to
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  Speaker 1: lunch show after after that short you want to act?
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever corrected this episode? Because I was trying.
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  Speaker 1: I was looking to see and I forgot to look
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  Speaker 1: it up. Alan Meyerson, Oh, I remember him, remember, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was a good experience. It's very mostly it was
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  Speaker 1: a good experience with all these directors, but I remember
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  Speaker 1: him being particularly pleasant. You knew who my favorite director was,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Michael Cattleman. Cattleman. I loved him. He was great, wasn't
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  Speaker 1: he He was great? Yeah? He had all that experience too.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't he a show runner on on something else before
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  Speaker 1: he came down. Yeah he had, he had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of experience before he came to us. Yeah he was,
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  Speaker 1: he was right, he was. He was easy to be around, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: very professional, very you know, very engaging. Yeah, very supportively.
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  Speaker 1: I loved him. Um. Do you think Madeleine wanted to
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  Speaker 1: be friends with Rory underneath it all? M yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think so. I think that's ultimately why she was so
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  Speaker 1: nice to Rory. UM. Uh, you know, I don't really
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  Speaker 1: think that, uh, Louise cared at all. I think Louise
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  Speaker 1: is just like all she wanted to be friends with
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  Speaker 1: was like hot guys. But I do think I think Madeline,
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  Speaker 1: I think Madeline was ultimately did want to be friend
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  Speaker 1: Rory and right, and which she kind of did, right,
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  Speaker 1: I thought. And the fans have really responded to that
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  Speaker 1: and said, oh I love that your character really was
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  Speaker 1: nice to Rory. H we're doing something in the day
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  Speaker 1: to know that they have any idea that's going to
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  Speaker 1: have such a lasting effect, and I don't know, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's something miraculous. Gilber Girls has become something really miraculous. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: yes it has. It has. UM. So with all of
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  Speaker 1: those extras in the Chiltern scenes, Um, did you ever
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  Speaker 1: become friends with any of the extras or or or no? Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there weren't really there. There were some regular
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  Speaker 1: um background players that were recurring, UM, but I'm not
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  Speaker 1: not really were very friendly with them. I remember one
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  Speaker 1: episode where Louise and Madeline had to like just start
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: making out with these two guys, and instead of casting
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: them because they didn't have any lines, they just lined
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: up like seven guys on against a wall in their
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: chiltern boy uniforms and they were like, okay, pick one,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: you have to make out with one. And I'm like,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: this is so weird, like that one still comfortable? Who
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: do you still keep in touch with? Uh? Well? For
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: for it was Liza for a really long time until
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I moved here. Um. Uh so with the Nick Holmes
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: and I are good friends. Um A, let's see who else?
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: And my friends with Valerie Wardrobe, um Bellerie Campbell, she's
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: so great? Um? Who else? Um? Friendly with George Bell, Georgi.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: She was just on an episode of Mom the Other Nine.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: He's a terrific actor, isn't he? He really is? Yeah? Yeah,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: he's so easy. He was cast as the onset dialogue
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: coach and just kind of George George Bell, for those
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: who don't know, was our onset dialogue coach who would
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: and And the only reason I got throwed is because
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: George Bell. Uh yeah, I invited him into my trailer
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: every single morning, after I ordered breakfast, I asked if
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: George was available, because he's very busy and uh, and
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: he would come into the trail and we just run
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: the scenes for the day until tell him why a
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: dialogue coach was so necessary And it only took him
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: a few years to figure it out. The two years year.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: So he'd come in and just run lines with you. Um.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: But not only that, you know, we'd shape the scenes
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: in the trailer. I mean, I know my dialogue coming
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: in to the Yeah. But he's but he's a really
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: good coach and he's a really good actor. So he's
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: reading with you as the scene and you know, he
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: understands the beats of the scene. He understands the nuances
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: of the scene. Um. But also I think one of
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: the reasons why the show was so successful was Amy
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: and Dan, especially Amy, were they were so civic that
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: every single word must be said exactly the way I
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: was written, and that's why there was seventeen hour days. Yeah.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Well sure, I mean there, but you know, George would
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: come in and you'd walk on the set. You were bulletproof.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: You couldn't possibly get it wrong because you were just
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: you were if you were good with George. If George
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: said thumbs up, you were good, you were gonna be
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: If George said, If George said, let's take a little
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: break and we'll run it a few more times, means
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: you need to work on more. It was all up
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: to Jorge. And you know what I think. After year
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: three or four, he came into my trailers say goodbye.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Said they're letting me go. And I said, no, they're not.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: And I you know, I called Amy and I sat
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: down with her and I said, listen, we need this guy.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: You don't And I don't know. She's so busy. She's
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: wearing so many hats on that show, literally and figuratively,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: um that you know, maybe that escaped her a little bit.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: And I said, listen, if George goes, the show goes,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the show will have a lesser quality because we'll be
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: here longer. People are gonna blow their lines. George was
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: the glue. And so she goes. You know, I didn't
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: know that. Oh yeah, and I'm gonna see this October,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, Oh really cool. Um, we're trying to
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: get him on the show. Tell him to tell him
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: to call me, tell him to d m me anyway,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: because I'm done, tell him because we're trying to get
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: him on the show. Um, yeah, I will contact him
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: as soon as we're done with this. Absolutely, the glue
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: of that production was was George Bell. Without him, it
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: was going to be a hot mess. Every single bit
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: his job, he does all because we were on stage
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: together at at the last you know that fan fast Yeah,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I brought him on. Yeah, he was up there for
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: about twenty Toronto, yes, exactly, exactly. Yeah, but I remember
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: when we were at dinner and he's like, well, Scott
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: wants to do his interview with him, and I'm like, okay,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: well you go another glass of wine. Probably a good choice,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: good choice, better choice. You're eventually their backstage really good.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: It was really good. So what was your what was
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: your favorite episode? That is probably my most I have
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: to most asked questions. One is what was your favorite episode?
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: And the second one why weren't you in the reunion? So? Um,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the my favorite episodes were without fail. Uh number one
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: was the springbreak episode. Uh, girls in bikinis and boys
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: doing the twist, And the other one was concert interrupted
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: us with the Bengals. Um, just because it was so
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: fun to do and watching the Bengals. We've shot at
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: will Shirt and Bill with the wheel shirt Bill Theater.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: That's how Mark Cacy used to say it. And um,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and was the casting director that came on after you, right,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Jamie Rudolph, she was from the start. No, she didn't
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: cast the pilot. She wasn't there from the pilot. She
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: was there from episode one because she cast me exactly
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: and uh, and it was weird. It was just her
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: and Amy in this crappy little trailer on the Warner
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Brothers lot for episode one. Um, before it became a thing.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: And they got their own building. But right, but we
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: we we got our own building. We had our own building. Yeah,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: well that's what I hinted. We helped build that. We
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: know that we helped helped. Yeah. Um, but but I
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: got to work with Melissa uh in that episode and
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Lauren more than typically, And um, I know you got
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: to be with Melissa plenty. And she's just so like
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: the person that sees you at craft Serves and just
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: runs up to me and says, tell me about your boyfriend,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: what's going on? Have you cooked anything good recently? Blahlah
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: blah blah. And she comes out of the groundlings and
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I did as well, you did? You did? Yeah, I
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: mean I wasn't the groundling. I went through like several
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: different stages of it up until the writing stage. I'm like,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: at the time, I didn't know how to write anything.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: So isn't an amazing You know? What amazes me and
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: watching this episode was that Melissa McCarthy wasn't discovered right
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: then and there that scene where she finds uh Lucien's
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: bill and now has identified And the joy with of
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: that scene and the level of her acting joy and
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: the comedic timing and the beauty of that scene. I mean,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: if I'm a director of films, I'm thinking, Wow, that girl.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: There's some skills on that girl. There's a natural charisma,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: there's comedic timing. She's why wasn't she just why need
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: to take Mike and Molly? Why did it take a decade?
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It was a different It
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: was a different time, right, it was a different time.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Why did it take so long for her to be discovered?
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: It was so obvious it was by every Yes, I
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: mean Laura Lai in the in the classrooms, like in
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the world. That was so funny, And I just discovered
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that yesterday for the first time. God, I totally get
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: why this. I mean, there's so and yeah Melissa with
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: her with the tray and the and the wand she's
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: like this. It was great, Jackson, Michelle, it was all
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: so good. And you with the Pine. I mean that
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: without me in the Pine, that a whole episode falls apart.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Don't you think my little contribution that those are the
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: days where I felt like God him, I you know,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: this is all I got in the script, and I'm
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: sitting at table read looking for more lines, and then
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: there's like pie and then pens and pencils, and I'm
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: not going to survive. There's so much to do with
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: some of them. But that's why it's a great ensemble,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: right exactly exactly. Every everybody's going to get there their
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: time in the sun. I guess you know. I've been
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: on I've been on productions where people were freaking out
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: when they didn't have enough lines, and I said, listen,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: you know it's twenty two episodes. Relax, You're gonna have
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: your time. They're gonna get right, they're gonna get sick
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: of That's what happened with with my um with the
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Springbreak episode. What's so much to do? In that episode
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: time in the sun. We even spent the week at
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: the c Sprite motel on the beach. Was really fun.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: All right, let's do you want to do rapid fire?
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I think it's time. All get ready? Come on? You better,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: you better, you better strap in? Yeah? Good, exactly, Limburg, Okay,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: here we go. Ready. How do you take your coffee? Uh?
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Coffee and cream and sugar? Can you smell snow? Yes?
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Are you team Logan jesser Deine team I'm I'm team Jared.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Who's the daddy? Who's the daddy? Oh? God? Um? Logan?
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Best memory of Gilmore Girls? Uh? What that concert scene
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: watched with the Shins? Nice? Uh? Favorite Friday night dinner meal.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm asking you this, but just
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: give me a favorite Friday night dinner meal. My favorite
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: move was when Richard, like, without even looking at her,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: passes Royal. The newspaper loved it. Show your bene watching
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: right now? Oh god, I'm always watching Modern Family and
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Vampire Diaries. So listen. Anything else you want to add
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: about your experience on the show. Uh, it was the
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: great It was my first job. It was the greatest
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: gift of my life because at the time in my life,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: you know, I grew up really without a family and um,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: and it gave me a sense of stability that I
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: had craved my whole life. Um and something became a
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: constant in my life for three plus years and I
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: needed that. UM And God, those freaking Christmas parties in
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: my rights. Yeah, they were good. They were definitely good.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you felt like you were stepping back into
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: nineteen twenty. You know. It was like that Woody Allen
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: film Midnight in Paris. You thought Scott Fitzgerald was going
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: to show up totally. It's room that she had they
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: had just as a mannequin and addressed. I remember that.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I know. I don't know how she pulled that off.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: It wasn't creepy at all. It was just kind of cool.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: It overlooked the whole back. But yeah, that show was uh,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: one of the top three greatest gifts of my entire life.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: There you go, there you all right, Shelley, Thank you
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: so much, Scott. It was such a great uh great
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: seeing you, seeing you to and what's the name of
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: your acting school so people can reference it? Oh well,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: so if you want to contact me directly. It's Shelley
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Cole coach at Gmail. But I work with an acting studio,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Peak Acting Studios. It's here in Denver. Hey, I have
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: a question. What's on your hat? What's on my hat? Yeah?
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Like there is on the other side my coffee company. Oh,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: your coffee company. I need to try your coffee. Yes
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: you do? Okay, what can I find it ordered online?
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Scotty p dot com Grade one specialty. You'll love it. Okay,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: we'll check it out. Man, check it out, George Bell,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I'll do that. All right, good deal. I'm putting you.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I'm putting. I'm putting you to work. Uh. It was
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: great seeing you're great catching up. Thanks for coming on,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Yes, you a favor. If you review
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the Concert interrupt Us, consider me consider you as a
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: guest for Concert Interrupted Season four O. My last episode
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: is my favorite. We all heard that. Let's it's it's
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: been noted, and well let's try to make it happen. Alright,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: great seeing you, Shelley, Shelley call everybody, thanks for coming
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: on by. Al Right, everybody, we're back. That was Shelly Cole,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: who played Madeline Um, one of the mean girls. And
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: she wasn't so mean, and she's really cool in real life,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: and we love her and we hope she comes back. Anyway,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: can we talk about listen, just before we you know,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: we talked about anything. Can we just talk about Max
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Medina inappropriate touching in the classroom in front of the
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: other pants. What is he doing? Did you see that
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: he touched flirting in front of you? Are you kidding me?
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: He touched her elbow, he touched her. He mean, this
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: is twenty years ago. Maybe that thing was. I like
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: that they're flirting. I don't know. I mean, that's a
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: really fancy private school, and I know she's beautiful, and
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: she's got all that personality and brains and and she's
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: funny and all that. But touch actually touching her, I
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: think he's crossing goal. I do. I think it's a
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: little bit crossing line. But maybe they're just trying to say, Hey,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: he can't help himself. Who could possibly resist? You know,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Luke certainly can't. Right, he's hanging around, you know, suffering,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: you know, for year after year after year, she dates
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: and dates and dates, and uh, you know, I'm hanging
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: in there, so why can't he touch her? But it's like,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: you know, I guess, I guess this is a little
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Luke coming out in me wanting they'll just like step
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: in and say, pal, don't you're jealous? Well, I think mightbe.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I'm a little jealous. I could be jealous. Well, let's
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: break it down. Is teacher mom inappropriate? I feel like
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: it's okay. And Shelley said she thought maxim Medina was dreaming.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: No he is. No, I'm not denying his natural charms.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I am not, and I'm not denying that they could
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: be attracted. Obviously, they're very attracted to one another and
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: and you know, platonically, physically, whatever whatever category you want.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: But I mean, that's going to destroy her her education.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: She gets involved with one of her teachers at the
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: fancy private school. That's just I don't know. I think
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: that's a very selfish move. And I like that they
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: threw that out there as an obstacle to get over.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: But to get that, I mean, I obviously we obviously
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: all know where it goes. Um. I mean, I haven't
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: seen the episodes, but I know you know what the
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: storylines are some what. But it's like, really, we're going
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: to go there. That's that's very so. So the question
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: really goes, why do the writers make that character so
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: selfish in that episode? Sorry, so you think Laura ize
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: selfish or Max is selfish? I love that Scott, I
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: guess Luke in this situation, both Scott and Luke are
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: super jealous of what's going on right now. But Scott,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: if you feel if this makes you feel any better, Lorela,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I didn't like the coffee. You thought it was bad.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: That doesn't make any difference to me. I wanted to
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: get his hands off her. Okay, So okay, touch her.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Pretend you're not Luke. Would you still be upset by this? So?
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Do you think you're bothered by it because you're Luke?
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Or are you bothered by it because you really think
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: the teacher shouldn't date this? My my stodgy, straight laced
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: right out of the book Upbringing is preventing me from
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: accepting this as a possibility. It's not acceptable behavior. So
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: did you think that voicemail that he left was creepy?
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I guess you'd call it a message back then. Sorry,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I think it was a nice message to send Rory
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: and then end the phone call when you say and
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: if your mother's listening like like they're both listening and
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: it's like he expects her to be in the room
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: listening to the message that he wants to leave his mother.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: And what what was the word he used? What did
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: he say? He said meeting you was what? What did
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: he say? I forgot? What did he say? Was it was?
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: He used a different words. He didn't say special, But
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I hope it happens again. It was like, God, what
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: are you doing? It's like you're stalking the mom on
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: the cell phone of its reaching the kid and you're
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: like hitting on the mom on he watched it. I
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: loved it, but now I loved it. Sorry, it's like
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: he's out, Get out. It's not happening. Love Scott Cohen,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: love him, But he is happening, Scott. It is happening
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: over my dead body. That's all I have to say.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: So you are bothered by this. I really bugged that
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: that he didn't think not to expose his student Rory
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: do that message. I mean, if I'm the chief magistrate,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm a judge, and I mean if
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm a prosecutor, I'm going after him for that.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: That's that's inappropriate. What are you thinking if you're the headmaster,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I think he would not like that. That's a big meeting.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Of course he wouldn't like it. And that you know
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: that headmaster is you know, that's old as old school
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: as it gets. And he I mean that eyes fired
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: like that you left. Did you leave this message on
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: on Rory Gilmore's on Laureli Gilmore's answering machine. Yes, I did. Okay,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: your your services are no longer required here and you're
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: going to lose your a little extreme not just okay,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: put yourself in that situation. You're sixteen years old, you
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: go into a fancy school. Okay. In my situation, you know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: my mother was single. When I was sixteen, I was
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: going to a fancy school. And if one of my
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: teachers had called, and we didn't have answering machines back then,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: but if they called and said, hi, Scott, you're doing
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: great in school, and you know, we think you can
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: catch up and all that and do some extra credit.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: But I think you're gonna be able to get back
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: because I have confidence with you. And by the way,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: can you put your mother on the phone and then
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: and then I and then I get on the other
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: line and I'm listening in and he's saying, Hi, Hope,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: how you're doing. Look, I really enjoyed meeting you today.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe I hope that we see each other again by
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Now that you're saying it this way, it has a
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: hint of creepy, But when I was watching it, I
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: kind of loved it. I love Max Medina, and I
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: love him flirting with Laura Lai and I love I
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: think it's very subconscious at this point. I don't know
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: that they totally know what they're doing. I don't think
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: he knows yet that he wants to ask her out.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: All I can think of now is like that al
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Pacino line in that in that film, I'll take a
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: flamethrower to this place. Let's ask our listeners what they
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: think is Max Medina creepy or not charming? Creepy or charming?
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Because he's very charming. There's no question about it. It's
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: it's it's a choice you make. Come on, guys, a
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: guy makes a choice in the moment. Do I turn
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: on the charm right now or don't die? Am I
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: appropriate or am I not? Moms can teach hers date
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: moms is a question we need to ask you absolutely
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: not because they're paying. Look, if you're if you're on
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: the border directors at that private school, you say to
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Max mcdin and listen, Mr Medina, these people are paying
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: fifty dollars a year, plus boarding, plus plus plus plus
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: plus all the money we're trying to hit him up
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: for for fundraisers throughout the year. So this comes to
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: seventy dollars a year, and you're hitting on one of
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: the mothers. You know, bye bye, Because that's that kind
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: of a story can get around, it can go via,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: It could even go viral back then, and then you
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: kind of that guy. You have to protect the institution.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: No matter how classy a guy, no matter how great
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: a teaching about, how what kind of credentials he has,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: he could sink that place with that one phone message.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a tad disconcerting that he called
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: out Rory she when she got the d he very
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: sort of loudly said, like you can work on this
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: in front of the other students, kind of calling out
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: that she didn't do well. That was sort of aggressive,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: and that's obviously Paris. I could hear that and then
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: but that's that's part of the old school way. Like
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: you're not going to get a d here and this
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: won't happen again, or else you're gonna feel this shamed again.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: It's everything. It's I mean, getting into a school like that,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: it's like that they don't mess around over there. So
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: at this point, do you not like Max Medina? I
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: guess us, Scott, we know Luke doesn't like him. That
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: is very apt. I get why they had to do it.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I get why the writers had to do it. I
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: get it. I don't like Max Medina right now, even
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: though okay, let me, let me qualify this. I think
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: that he would be a good I mean, because it
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: comes down to judgment. It's just a judgment call. It's
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: a choice that a man makes now if he ends up.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: And yes, I do agree that he would be a
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: good fit for Laurela and a good fit for Rory.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: And you know, but he's the decision that he makes
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: is jeopardizing that institution. He's jeopardizing his own reputation, Rory's education,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: and and the reputation of Chilton. Yeah, he's definitely opening
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: up Pandora's box. Like this could go really bad. I
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: could go very bad, very bad. Yeah, I have so
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: much to bank upout touch the elbow, Touch the elbow.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: That really bothered you, Mr Mr handa Mr Hand became
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Mr Fist. That was not gonna work for me. I
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: watched that episode and it was like, oh boy, your
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: hands off. No no, no, Yeah, there's a lot to
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: think about with with how complicated it is, But I
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: do see how it's opening up thing for us. That's
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: a big deal. You can't go around hitting on the moms,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: even if it's a Laurela Gilmore quality, you know. And
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: we haven't talked about what those other parents will think
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: when they find out that Max is dating or like,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: because he already sort of in front of the other parents,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: drew attention to them. Oh, speaking of the other parents,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: how about when he's talking about driving the administrator of
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: the a P test. Did everybody not immediately think of
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: the college scandal, the varsity blues, the college scandal that
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: just happened. But I literally heard that line and I
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: was like, that aged very well. But it's been going
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: on forever. I mean that's sort of how it works everywhere.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: I mean not just one percent, but it works everywhere.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Everybody's bribe and everybody. But now it's just not acceptable. Yeah,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: because obviously when you made this show, that whole college
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: scandal wasn't a thing. But that's what you do, you donate,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: you know, And he obviously was being facetious, but still, yeah, whoa,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I'm just looking at Max Medina in a Whole Another Life.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: What do you think of all the pressure Rory's putting
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: on herself and how she full spiraled in this episode.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: She she's just realizing what it takes to compete at
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: that level. It's it's it's really just comes down to
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: the amount of reading you have to do. It's like,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: it's not tens of pages, it's hundreds of pages. And
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: if you can't read at that level and comprehend at
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: that level, you're not going to be able to compete
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: at that level. You won't get through the coursework. It
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: won't happen. And do you think Paris poking her and
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Tristan's constantly sort of calling her Mary and kind of
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: ribbing her contributed to the full meltdown, of course. I mean,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I love Chad Michael Murray. That character was about his
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: obnoxious and condescending and I mean there's another Mr Hand
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: turning into Mr Fist. It's like you just want to
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: punch the guy. He doesn't care that so smarmy and smug.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, how does he did a great job of
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: portraying it just a spoiled, entitled, rich kid, which is
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: exactly what they were looking for. I mean he held
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: that because he's a little cutie. Yeah. But there's nothing
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: remotely likable about his personality. I mean, it's just nothing there.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: It's just Mr Popular. So he's Mr. Popular. But he
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: did ask her out, which I thought was Wow. So
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: we learned two things. One, Tristan has asked her out,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: even though she obviously blew it off. And we find
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: out in this episode that Dean's asking about her. Right,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: So now we've got the beginnings of this Rory love triangle. Wow.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Um. But anyway, I mean, when you have parents,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: you have a parison at Tristed, you have two of
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: the most unlikable, obnoxious, entitled people. Uh uh you could
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: possibly imagine. Um. And it's a little unfair because private
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: schools maybe, I mean, you know, every kind of school
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: produces that individual. It's not really the school producing that individual,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: it's the parents. Uh, It's it's it's how they grow up.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: But and I think that the one percent are unfairly
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: labeled across the board as being you know, all of
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: this all the same. It's it's really not that um
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: but man, yeah, but it's it's like, for the purpose
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: of the show, for a traumedy kind of perfect I mean,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: you kind of have to do that stuff. So maybe
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: maybe they gave themselves a license for the Maxi Medina
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: touching in the creepy phone cree Should we get a
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Riley re enactment of Paris whispering in Rory's ear because
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: that was jarring? Riley? Could you perform that for us?
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Let me not to the marriage of true minds, admit
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: and pendence. Love is not love, which alters when it altercation, finds,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: or bends with the remover to remove. Oh no, It
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: is an ever fixed mark that looks on temptest and
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: is never shaken. It is the star to every wandering
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: bark who's worth unknown. Although his heights be taken, Love's
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: not times full the rosy lips and cheeks within his
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: bending sickles compass come. Love alters not with his brief
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: hours and weeks, but bears it out even to the
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: edge of doom. It is to be air and upon
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: me prove I never writ nor no man ever loved
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: would today that would be considered bullying, right, like academic bullying.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: It's so like intellectual bullying. Like it's not even mean words,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: it's just Shakespeare. You know. That was my favorite scene.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: That was my favorite. It was so purely evil. But
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: but it's listen, it's a tough world out there, and
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: you're going to run into people like that and you
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: need to compete, overcome, be the better person and win that.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: That's laying down the gauntlet, like, I mean, it was
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: beautifully done. That absolutely my favorite scene. Well, and obviously
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Paris she's threatened by Rory, absolutely the only reason she
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: did it, of course. Yeah, so that's kind of interesting
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: that we know that's coming. Despite Rory's d and the
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: i mean, what becomes the test debacle, Harris is still
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: threatened and knows that Rory is going to be the
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: one that's coming for Paris is sort of being number one. Yeah. Oh,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: the meltdown though, the meltdown, Rory's meltdown, What did you think?
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I think it was so far in the series, Okay,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: and I've only watched what these three episodes now, um
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: her finest moment acting moments, I think she just nailed
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: and I've never ever seen her or when I was
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: acting with her, because I haven't seen the shows, but
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: when I was acting with her all those years, I've
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: never seen her pop like that, the way she popped
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: at Tristan when he said my name is Rory and
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: she screamed it out. And I don't think she's ever
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: done that. She may have, and I'll discover it, but
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I just thought, Wow, for an eighteen year old kid,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: she can act, that was terrific. It was just a
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: terrific to to both of them, but especially to too
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Um Tristan. I enjoyed the heck out of it. You
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: know what I found interesting about the meltdown is you
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: see Rory's epic meltdown and then a few scenes later
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: you see larealize I think meltdown, and it just shows
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: that Lorelei and Rory are a lot more similar than
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: they think they are, and they constantly have roll reversal
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: because when Rory was studying and Loyalize doing like ice cream,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: ice ice cream, ice cream, you realize in that particular scene,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Rory is fully the mom and Lorala is fully the teenager. Yeah,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: but the Rory meltdown. You had to have it because
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: now it's like, Okay, you're in for the fight of
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: your life because look at my rage. I know that
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: you're an angry little child. But I'm not an angry child.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: I'm a happy child. But don't mess with me, because
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: I will destroy you. I have it within me to
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: do it. And she displayed that, and that's what that
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: was all about. And she was willing to risk getting
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: kicked out of the Chilton doing that because she knew
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: that that was a bridge too far. Melting down in
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: class like that and threatening student. Yeah, and now we're
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: teed up for her to overcome and succeed. So satisfying.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: That's what if you were once they want that scene,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: it's like, yes, get in the fight, get in there
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: and start swinging. Good for you. That just makes her all.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if there's a more likable
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: character in television in the last five years. And Rory Gilmore,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, what a wonderful character. No, absolutely, but I
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: think Rory, I mean you really have to you have
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: to really root for her. She's she's sixteen year old kid,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: you know, she's just a kid. You know, she's she's
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: got this mom that's you know, pretty terrific and real,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: colorful and unpredictable and wacky and brilliant and loving and
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. But she does have her moments where
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: she gets very selfish or everybody, we're going to take
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: a break and when we come back, we are going
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: to get into the hottest topic, uh, probably trending right
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: now in the world is the return of the clown pillow.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Yeah, are everybody, We're back. We're
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: talking clown pillows. And I know a lot of people
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: want to talk clown pillows. I've met a lot of
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: people recently and over the last twenty one years and
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: they come up to me they want to talk clown pillows.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: And now we're you know, we're We've created an entire show.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: This whole podcast is just an excuse to talk about
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: that one subject. So here we going there. It was
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: there was they were studying, they were doing the study
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: crunch and it was subtle but but real. In the
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: stair the stairs to the bedrooms in the landing. Although
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: is Rory's bedroom upstairs or downstair downstairs, it's by the
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: kitchen and laulize upstairs upstairs, yes, which is unner you know,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: it's like that's unnerving. That would make me. You know,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: when when Nick was born, uh, you know he was
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: in our room, we didn't let him out of the room. Yeah.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: I wonder when she let Rory move down and like
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: giving him his own room eventually was like traumatic for us.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: But he was like, you know, right, he's like one
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: door away. I can't imagine anybody. I mean, she must have.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: She must have moved her down there at a necessity
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: when she became you know, ten or eleven or something.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: You know, I just can't imagine she'd be downstairs as
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: a as a kid, little kid, as a toddler, no way. Yeah,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: and they probably didn't get that house till she was
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: a bit old, right right, See, there's a whole life
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: before the show. There's a whole life there. The prequel
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: would be a good God, you know, you could start
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: it when you know Headmster Charlton was a boy. You know,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: we weren't even born yet. I don't know. You could
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: definitely do a show though, where Lorelai started as pregnant, right, yeah,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: just the clown pillow was less creepy but yet prominent.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: And we do we have an image of it in
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: this episode where it was placed. Do we have an
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: image coming up? I kind of feel like we're going
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: to see it. We do, and we will post it
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: on social so you all can see it. That's fantastic, Okay, Gang,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I we better discussed the risotto. It's a serious topic.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: It was fine, the magic risotto. The magic risotto. It
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: wasn't just fine. I mean, did you see her react
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: to that? She she just went blank. She was so
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: happy and so so in anticipating such a great review
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: and then that just like and then she went full
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: c I A. She was going to track down Lucian
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: and figure out what went wrong, why he only thought
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: the risotto was fine, and then she was gonna fix that.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: One of the great one of the great scenes in
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: the entire episode was when she found his his receipt
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: right and it had his info on it, and you
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: could hear from from the what was she what was
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: she doing? She was doing her yell, she was doing
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: some kind of choy and right right and then can
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: I be fired now? And it's like if you blink
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: and you miss it? Like it was so genius. He's like,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I serve a lot of people like you know. But
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: he may have looked like a guy who was drinking
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: a bad class of wine. With the magic risotto, the reestling.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: It's like bad battery acid. Exactly, it's like battery acid.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, my God is cragging me up? Come on.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: That was my favorite scene in the entire episode. And
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: then she went full acrobat to hand the risotto backwards
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: at the guy's door. Who we never see his face
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: like that, poor actor, We never got to see him.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: It might have been somebody. It might have been somebody
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: on the crew. I would assume, why pay a day road?
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: But no, it's but you're acting with Melissa McCarthy, so
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: you need a trained person, you know. That's it was
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: somebody it was. I don't know. I'm gonna find that.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: That's that's a good question. I bet you somebody knows.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: If somebody knows that, oh yeah, let's try to see
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: if somebody can tell us that who was that guy?
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I like Rossotto? Do you like risotto? Love it? Love
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: lobster risotto. There's a wonderful lobster rosota to a place
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: around here, or of a mushroom gal like that mushrooms. Yeah,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: she had lobster in that risotto. I think she said
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: did she really gave a tad bit of the recipe
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: and it was just a little bit of it, which
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: was what makes it so magical, isn't It's so great?
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: I mean the pride she has in her cooking, attaching
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: it to her mother surviving another three years. You know
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: what else to like in that kitchen is that in
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: the background you see the cheerios, so they're actually somehow
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: they cleared it or whatever they did so that you
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: have like real food back there and it's not like
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: some fake TV food cleared it. Cheers General Mills gotta
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: pay up? Yeahs in there and I'm season one of
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: that monster hit. Yeah, I'm sure they had to clear
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: it cheerious. Was this the first appearance of Dosis market?
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Was that where they were buying the school supplies? They
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: just don't really call it out The very first scene
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: in this episode for Laura, I wanted Rory to get
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: the purple and then she did that whole list of
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: things like she did like at the end of the
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: last episode, she had all her running jokes and it
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: was like get away from me. You're crazy this kind.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: But they were really fun. And then she did again
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: with the paper cliss. She was like, your depressed pens,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: right right, right? Um, I think that's Dosie's market. I
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: just don't think they called it out. Yeah, I think
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: it's I think there's not another market in town. No, No,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: that's doc. That's got to be Jose's market unless there's
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: like a school supply office supplies. If we are wrong,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: we are going to get checked by the world, because
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you, man, we'd better be right about that.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: One man. Are those girls always late? They've got a
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: real alarm clock issue, because first Rory was late for
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: school because the fuzzy alarm didn't go off. Then she
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: was late for the golf with Richard, and now she
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: missed the test because she overslept. Those girls need help
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: with the clocks and being on time. Well, I think
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: in Richard in being late for the golf game, and
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: if we already went over this, I apologize, But you know,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: I really think that that is on a subconscious or
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: not level alualized sabotage. Um. No way that she wants
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: those two to get together and have a good time
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: because she knows that that you know, Richard's a father
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: figure to her and a potential of male influence that
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: that maybe Laurel I wants nothing to do with it.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why. I mean, he's obviously a loving,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: wealthy area date individual who could be very beneficial. But
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: then we get into that thing about what we discussed
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: earlier about control, and yeah, I think they just run late,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: but that's a control thing. That's running late is a
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: control thing. It is no matter how disorganization or whatever,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: whatever excuse you want to say, that is a control thing.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: It also makes for a great comedy when they're all
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: bumbling around running running, it's it's it's actually good television.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: I'm getting hit by dear. And boy did we see
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: that deer come? And then kind of all right, we
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: saw antlers which was not the real deer, but then
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: we saw the real deer run. But that dear, easy,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: easy to share, take off hitting a parked car. It's
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: not a big deal to with, Dear, no big deal.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: And then he just kept going. He took off. You
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: know you're not gonna find it shook her probably more
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: than the absolutely deer. Was like wow, whatever you know,
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  Speaker 1: and good fashion in this episode, you're back to the
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  Speaker 1: flannel oh when I did like the line where Laurelai says, oh, backward,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: that's new. I think that might not be the exact quote,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: but it's it's pretty close to that. And her fashion
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: was on point, Like she had the leoperture, which I
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: thought was cute, and the snakeskin blouse which I also
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: thought was cute. So she's big in the animal prints
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: and very on point and the two shirt. Yep, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not qualified to have this conversation. You guys want to
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: discuss the fashion, go ahead. That's what makes it fun.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: You guys. I have no opinion on this at all.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: I don't. So you were back in the flannel plat
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: it was fine, it was fun. Yeah, all right, let's
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: get into some pop culture. So we did the Deer
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Hunters and next up we have Drilla says, back off, Chevalier, Chevalier, chevallet, Chevalier, Chevalier,
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  Speaker 1: cheval Well, back off Chevalier, right, Maurice say it again,
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  Speaker 1: right Chevalier. There's an R there, guys, Scott, what does
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  Speaker 1: that mean? Chevalier? Yeah? What did she say? Get out
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  Speaker 1: of my way? Chevalier. It's like back off, back off Chevalier.
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  Speaker 1: Maurice Chevalier, the dancer was Maurice Chevalier, a dancer and
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: a singer. Write a famous French dancer and singer and
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: rose to prominence in the United States. Maurice Chevalier was
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: a huge, huge star of stage in screen, I believe,
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  Speaker 1: and and she was mocking him for his lack of
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  Speaker 1: um dexterity on his feet. So it was like, what
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  Speaker 1: are you doing in my way, Chevalier? Get out, go
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  Speaker 1: dance away somewhere. I did a quick little Google search
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: and it means a night a Chevalrous. I was completely wrong,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: just went on a whole thing, and I was totally wrong.
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  Speaker 1: There is you. I justified that moment. I thought it
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: really seemed like you knew it, because that isn't a
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  Speaker 1: person that exists. I sold that. I really sold that,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: and I kind of had you guys, but then you
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: kind of blew it up. So what's the pronunciation? So
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: obviously I have the pronunciation wrong? That right Chevalier? Oh
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: wait a minute, no, it isn't. It is a different
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: is chevl it is. You're right, you know what, Riley,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: You're right, it's Chevalier. It is Chevalier because Ken talked
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: about Kevin O'Leary. Listen to this. Kevin O'Leary talked about
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: this on Shark Tank. Because he's he's he's he's a
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: member of a society of wine drinkers that they call
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: themselves something something with the Chevaliers. It's not Chevalier. It's
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: something like that. But anyway, are you guys ready to
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: hear the nights of the wine Drinkers? Go ahead? Chevalier?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Riley might have been right, that's not what, that's not what. Well,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: more time for everybody at home, Chevalier. But that's not
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: what Drella said. What did she say? What did she say?
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: She said cheval Oh god, we have a controversy. We
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: have we have an issue right now. We need to
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: find out. But for the record, Drella says it Chevalier
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: in the episode, So let's go with that. Wow. Well,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: going on with the Drella theme. So Loura like comes
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: up and says, no blocks Ob, no Steely Dan, no Boston,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: and no Queen. Yeah what was she playing? She was playing?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Uh when Laurel I walked up to her, she was
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: playing DNA. Yeah, she's playing black legit. She should keep
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: playing the hips, play the hits. Lora like I says,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: we like, we like that. Mozart Jella says, I am
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: already show of harpists, already show a big band leader.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Back in the day, back during what Sinatra's time, when
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Sinatra was on the rise in a superstar, Tommy Dorsey, Nelson,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Riddle already Shaw, there was tons, tons of big bands
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: back then. They were fantastic. Have you ever been in
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: a room with a big band, I mean, like a
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: legit big band having dinner. They'll blow your hair back.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: They're fantastic, great music. I saw, I saw, I saw
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: blow your hair rock second. It is a fantastic It
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: is a fan that dog will hunt to to use
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: a phrase, that dog's gonna hut. I was when I
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: was just a teenager. I saw a big band. I
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: think it was Woody Herman's big band. Remember what do
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: you know? You guys don't know what Herman is um.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: But he was one of the big band leaders and
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: those bands were powerful. They were powerful, man. It was.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: It was something now that everybody's asleep. Also, speaking of
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: blowing your hair back, Laura La says, you once told
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: me that you love Saved by the bell What could
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: be more humiliating than that? Was funny? That was totally
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: works today because not only do we all know what
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: saved by the bells, but that show came back and
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: has like it's you know whatever it's called, but that's
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: the way she said it. What could be more humiliating
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: than that? You know? It was so exactly, it was
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: very matter of fact, yes, very final, um Laura. Laura
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: also says, um, I thought this place was gonna be
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: so great, and now I guess this goes on the
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: boy was I wrong? List? Right above Gaucho's but just
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: below the flash dance space. Oh my god, that so epic.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Gaucho plants are a little rough. They're just a very
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: wide legged pant and you'd really you have to be
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: pretty tall to really rock those. You could almost fly
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: with those. Yeah, yes, I think those flying squirrel suits
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: may have been inspired from Gaucho design Capri Gaucho tad Ra.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Going on Laura Life, Laura Lie says, fresh in my
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: first lifetime as Joan of Arc Yeah, can we get
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: a little history on who Joan of Arc is? Daniel
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Joan of Arc is a national heroine of France. Heroine heroin.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: She has Chevalier. We all need to go back to school.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Acted Hilton. She was a peasant girl who, believing that
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  Speaker 1: she was acting under divine guidance, led the French army
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: in a victory in fourteen twenty nine during the Hundred
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Years War. All right, so Loraa, I says, I wouldn't
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: want to get you in trouble with ill duch over here, Danielle,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: what's that duch isleni? That's right, a dish best prepared
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: upside down at a gas station. Dead there you go,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's how he ended up. Was his wife,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: That's how he was killed. Not not really podcast material
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: that feels about Max. Feels about Max, I say, burnt.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: You know Joan of Arc was burn at the steak
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: for ques to being a witch. And let's put Max
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: in there too. Just make another steak for him. Maybe
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: he'll come around on Max because I love Max Medina. Yeah,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: well he just picked a fight with me, I'll tell
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: you that much, lady. Alright, Finally we have Joella is
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: saying what do you think about Pat Benatar? And more
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: lies as great idea? Can she play the harp? Very
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: funny line and hit me with your best shot. Good one. Okay, guys,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: give me your best lines of the episode. Who's starting?
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, I will when la goes into the parent
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: teacher meeting and she's late and bumbling and crashed into
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: the globe and says, what in the world. But that's
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: that's a tough that's a very difficult acting assignment to
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: make that, to pull that off and to make it funny,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: that's really tough. And she freaking nailed it because I
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: laughed out loud. And then the other good one was um,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: that's the one who voted for the scrun cheese, which
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: is so genius because it's a full call back to
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: the story that La Lai told Suki in the kitchen.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: And then it's the kind of you know, snooty mom,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: I mean genius. So mine is um. When Rory and
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Lane to each other, Rory goes, what is that? And
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Lane goes twelve calories as she's eating a rice cake
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: and then she hands at the Snickers the any Barnes
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: she goes, bless you, you know? Okay? My favorite line
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: was when Rory's waking up, laurea line wrote, Laurel I says,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: Mommy can't get up right now mommy has been sleeping
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: at a right angle all night. I think my favorite
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: line was was my line, if you throw a pen
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: you I give you a trout no sense at all,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: but it's just like, you know, that's where did you
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: come up with that? You know, that's in the spirit
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: of the show. I really feel like now Luke is
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: in the flow and he's like being influenced, like he's
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: trying to be funny like Laurel. It is funny, you know. Yeah,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: So there you go. That's my favorite line. I give
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Deer Hunters a great episode, great episode where we learned
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: so much. We really did. And I'm nervous for next
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: week just because Cinnamon's Wake does not sound good for
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: that cat by. Yeah, it's gonna be a tough episode
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: for cat lovers because right from the title, you know
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: things are not going well for Cinnamon nine Lives. I
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: don't think so. I'm a little nervous to watch the
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: episode because I'm a cat love where I grew up
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: with is your nemesis, maxim Adina. In the next episode
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: we will find out. I don't know, it could be
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: did they get us together that soon? In confrontation? Oh
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: my goodness, Wow, watch out World. Alright, I get you know.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: I'm going to watch this episode right after we wait,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: after we get off here, before we wrap this episode,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: we do have somebody in the waiting room. She is
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: a fan um and listen to podcast, and we're gonna
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: bring her on to answer a few questions. Great, let's
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: let's meet her. Hi, Scott, Hello, Hi, how are you doing.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: I'm great, Thank you so much. I'm so excited to
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: be on your show. We're glad to have you. Where.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: What's your name and where are you. Hi'm Schilpa and
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: I'm from India. Hi. Nice to meet you and thanks
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: for joining us. What's your question, Schilpa? Okay, my question
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: for you is that if you could play any other
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: character in Gilmur Girls other than Luke James, what it
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: would be. Oh gosh, you know, I think I would.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: I would enjoy playing kirk Um. Yeah, even that's my
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: favorite character. Yeah, I mean mine too. I just because
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: it was so he had so many things to do,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: so many different jobs, so many chances in comedy, um,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: just the situations that he was put in. I just
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: think it would be fun. I would have not look
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: forward to the hot dog suit on a hot day,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: but just very funny character. And so that would be
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: the one. Everybody loves Kirk. However, you can't, you can't
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: not love Kirk. So yeah, I'm I'm, I'm kind of
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: My inner Kirk is strong. It always has been. I
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: hope it always will be. Um, So, thank you so
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: much for your question. Thank you so much for giving
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: us the opportunity to talk to you and ask your questions.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: It's wonderful. And so are you are you a student?
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Do you go to school? Yes, I'm a student. Actually
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: I am doing chat at accountancy thing. Oh great, good
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: for you. Well, good luck with everything. And thank you
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: so much Shopa for coming on the show. We enjoyed
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: having Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Okay,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: by sweetheart, Hi, okay, so listen, guys, that's it. Thanks
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: for tuning in, and uh, we are anticipating a very
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: heavy show Sinnamon's Wake next week. We are. I'm a
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: little nervous, Amy's little nervous. We don't know if it's
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: a demise of Cinnamon, but if it's wake, I think
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: that pretty much tells you what's gonna happened to Cinnamon.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if I'm looking forward to seeing
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: this episode because I may shed a tear or two
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: for that beautiful cat. Um. We'll see what happens, guys,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: but look, keep your spirits up and uh, you know,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: we'll we'll we'll watch the episode. We'll dig into it
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: next week and and uh and make sure to uh
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: make sure to hug your loved ones. Okay, just make
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: sure to do it. Just hug and kiss him. That's it. Okay, bye,
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