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LIVE - A Cancer CURE? The Hidden Truth of Apricot Seeds Exposes Big Pharma’s Deadly LIE · Man in America Podcast

• 1:33
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holhouse. If there's one thing that we've learned in the past couple of years, it's that big pharma is absolutely corrupt, and they're probably trying to kill us. I mean, watch my recent interview with Miami Wolf, where you can see that they're knowingly putting cancer causing agents into these vaccines. And so you look at the vaccine industry, it seems massive, but that's not even touching the cancer industrial complex.
• 2:01
  I mean, this is the creme de la creme of the medical industrial complex is the cancer industry. And according to my guest today, John Richardson Jr, there's actually a very simple treatment and preventative and, you know, what some might even call a quote unquote cure for the c word is found in nature. And if you go to other countries like Mexico, is part of a regular regimen that they use to treat people that come down there with tumors and cancer and everything. And so this is gonna be, I think, a pretty mind blowing interview because look at the past couple of years and look at how your perspective perhaps has changed on vaccination and trusting Big Pharma and everything. And a lot of people they didn't really realize how bad Big Pharma was until they saw what was happening with these vaccines.
• 2:52
  But you have to maybe extrapolate the information a little bit and say, gosh, well, if the vaccine industry is so corrupt, what about the cancer industry? And I think what we find is that there's actually very known cures for cancer. And the people that try to bring them out are demonized, some of them are killed, etc. Because if, if the average person knew they could go to a local fruit store and buy something that would actually prevent cancer or cure cancer, it would undo this entire industry. And so folks, I hope you enjoy this interview.
• 3:26
  But I also hope that you can share this interview because I'm someone that as you probably know, I lost my brother when he was 33 years old to a non Hodgkin's lymphoma cancer. If I would have known this information ahead of time, I genuinely feel like we could have done something about that. So I hope that if this interview touches you, if it moves you in a certain way, please share it with more people because it's not going be going viral on YouTube. I can tell you that for sure. Alright, folks, please enjoy this interview with John Richardson, Junior.
• 3:56
  So, John, it's it's great to have you on the show today. Thank you so much for joining us here.
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: It's my pleasure, Seth. As I as I've told everybody, I every day I could put this message out to your audience or anybody's audience. It's a hard message to get out there, so I appreciate it. Thank you.
• 4:11
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely. Absolutely. So we've met a few times backstage at the reawaken tour and I think had a few other mutual friends and contacts. And so it's it's good to have you on the show, and I'll give a little bit of background. So as it relates to cancer, so I lost my brother to cancer.
• 4:28
  He was 33, had a non Hodgkin's lymphoma. And it's not about, you know, being a sob story, but it's more so that I saw inside the belly of the beast. I saw the cancer ward. I saw the chemo, the radiation, just how the modern medical system treats cancer. And at that time, I wasn't nearly as aware of a lot of alternative treatments.
• 4:55
  It's crazy we call the ones that work the alternative treatments. We call the mainstream one the one that will probably kill you. But anyway, so it's it's good to have this conversation. So I'll just I'll hand it to you. Why don't you give us just a little bit of background of yourself, your father, and what you're doing?
• 5:11
  And I'm sure I'll have a lot of questions for you.
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: Well, I love, like I said, introducing people to this for the first time, because most people know somebody that has cancer. And it's been predicted that literally fifty percent of the people in the world by 02/1930 will have cancer. Now we have this thing called Turbo Cancer. And it's interesting, Seth, that you call it modern medicine and that kind of gives, you know, makes the hair on my back of my neck stand up because it's really medieval medicine. Will consider within the next ten years, I'm predicting, we will consider things like chemo therapy, radiation, cutting tumors out of people's bodies as medieval, as horribly debilitating and horrible things.
• 5:54
  The answer to cancer has been known for a hundred years. It's been known and doctors have put their life on the line. And in the 70s, there were lots of doctors that said, Enough is enough. We're going put it out there. My dad was one of those doctors who cured or treated thousands of patients, thousands and thousands of patients, and wrote a book called Leotrol Case Histories about his experience.
• 6:18
  And his reward for putting his medical license on the line and curing lots of people and having thousands of letters of support from his patients talking about how he cured their cancer and helped them. His reward was to have his license taken away, to be put into jail, to be had lawsuits filed against him, and eventually to lose his life from the stress and everything in his early sixties. That's only I'm about to be 59 this month in November and that's about, you know, three years older than I am. So it's way too young. I feel like I'm in my thirties or forties, even though I don't look like it.
• 6:56
  That my, so my goal now is to take what's happened with the COVID scam, which you know well about, we all do, anybody on our side knows well about that. But we've, to take that people waking up to the fact we've been scammed about that, to being scammed about so many other things. Did you know, Seth, that fentanyl was approved by the FDA in 1968? And Leotrel B17, the subject I'm here to talk about, has been demonized by them since the 70s and doctors lost their license, even though it's been well documented, well proven through many studies and many major studies that it actually helps. It actually works.
• 7:38
  It's not a silver bullet, as they say, but it actually helps and actually works in a metabolic treatment plan.
• 7:44
  Seth Holehouse: And it's just crazy because it's easy to look at, say, big pharma and everything, especially in the past and say, well, it's all about the money. It's all about the profit, and a sick customer is a good customer, right, to big pharma. Now after we look back on the last couple of years and the rollout of the jabs, and it seems like it's something much more deeper and nefarious. And that's not the intention of today's interview. It's just to look at the business of this because, like, I was just talking to my wife the other day, we're driving around and seeing every billboard you see is cancer, cancer, cancer.
• 8:20
  You go to the airport, you know, then, you know, so I've go back to I fly back into Ohio pretty often. My family is where they've got big cancer, you know, there's James Cancer Center there, and the entire airport is cancer advertising. I mean, it's it's a massive, it's like, there's like a cancer industrial complex. And Absolutely. But what's crazy, though, is that even though there's all this money pouring into cancer and cancer research and everything, there's never a cure.
• 8:48
  The rates of cancer aren't decreasing in people, and it just continues. It it just goes up. It doesn't make it doesn't make sense.
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't make sense until you you realize that it's so ingrained that even people on our side, people even on our side are self censoring because they know, gosh, I could get in trouble if I talk about these natural treatments. So it's not worth it. I don't make that much money. I might use it for my patients or people around in my circle, but I'm not going to promote out there and go at it. So people are self censoring.
• 9:23
  But this book by G. Edward Griffin, who was a very good friend of my dad, and I'm sure you've heard of him, he also wrote the book Creature from Jekyll Island. This book was written in '19 seventy 1970 It talks about the science of why leotrope and B17 work in the treatment of the C word or cancer. And then it talks about the second half, about the financial reasons, the Rockefellers and big pharma. I've even put paper clips on the different chapters that talk about all the things that are going on today, why they will never want us to have a natural cure on their own.
• 9:57
  They're never gonna People all the time, Well, if it really worked, there's no doctors. My doctor's a good man. He not tell me about something that worked. The problem is your doctor, who's a good man, was trained in a university that was paid Harvard University gets 110% of their funding from pharma. Now that's an interesting number, right?
• 10:16
  How do you get 110% of your funding? Because they get extra money from big pharma to give to student aid, to help for lunch money, to help people buy their books. It's so well funded. Of course, what are these doctors going to talk about when they get out? They're not going to talk about things that are cheap and easy to get because the apricot seed, which we sell thousands of pounds, hundreds of thousands of pounds a year in the last thirty years, especially, apricot seed works out to five or 10 apricot seeds a day.
• 10:46
  If you believe what G. R. Griffin said in this book, we could wipe out the c word. Now that's blasphemous when you're fighting against a trillion dollar industry. So the good news is that it's starting to spread like wildfire.
• 11:00
  We we did a TikTok video about the apricot seed. It got 14,800,000 views. It got put over to to Twitter, and then they canceled our account. So people are ready to hear about this, but it's very censored. So I think you know Ty and Charlene Bollinger.
• 11:16
  Yeah. They'll tell you that the most demonized, most effective natural treatment is apricot seeds or B17 and the Gerson therapy. And they talk about all these different therapies for cancer, which all are great, but the one that they most hate and most demonized is the most effective. That's my life on the line every day.
• 11:37
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Yeah. So Absolutely. So this apricot scene, it's funny actually because my wife a few years back, she went and bought a bunch of bulk apricot seeds because she just thought she was, you know, and she had seen truth about cancer, you know, probably, you know, more than around a decade ago or something. I mean, she's been following them for quite some time.
• 11:55
  And so tell us about this apricot seed. I mean, can this apricot apricot seed, does it really cure cancer? What are the studies showing? What evidence is there? I mean, tell us more about this.
• 12:10
  Because I think for a lot of people, myself included up until a couple of years ago, cancer is like this death sentence. You're so scared of it. And it's like we're trained to think, if you have cancer, you have to just do chemo and hope you survive it. And that's how most people, I think, in America think about cancer.
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: Right. Well, there's a lot in the questions that you just asked, and I tell people all the time I have 20 different subjects I could talk about. But let me just get down to the basics. It's not a drug. It's a natural substance that God created.
• 12:43
  It's found in 1,200 different foods. And in our side of it, we always talk about the apricot seed. Why? Because it has the highest concentration in nature. But you don't need to do apricot seeds.
• 12:53
  A friend of mine wrote a book called Cancer Free with Food, Leanna Warner Gray. She's a good friend of mine. And she talks about all the different foods that have nitrilesides and healthy things to prevent cancer. So you can eat lima beans, millet, barley, sorghum molasses. These all contain amygdalin.
• 13:11
  Amygdalin is God's substance to help you prevent cancer. Now, again, if I'm on YouTube and you mention my name or my website or even that subject, it gets deleted immediately. But the studies are so thorough, but so demonized. They've erased them that they only exist in a lot of times in in books that I have I've recently just copied. But Sloane Kettering did a study in the seventies, and doctor, Segura Doctor.
• 13:42
  Sakura, Kanamatsu Sakura, who was world famous at Sloan Kettering in the seventies, studied and did a test on rats that were raised to create tumors. And he found twenty nine out of twenty nine times that Laotryl stopped the metastases of tumors in these rats and made the rats better. But guess what, Seth? They didn't like that answer. Sloan Kettering was funded by big pharma and a doctor named Doctor.
• 14:13
  Ralph Moss, who I recently got a book, he wrote this great book and I just found out about it, but he was there and he did a video 10 ago called Second Opinion, the cover up of Laotrile at Sloan Kettering. So what did Sloan Kettering's board do? All these guys were funded by big pharma. They hired another doctor for a million dollars. Imagine a million dollars in 1970.
• 14:35
  Brought him in to do the same study again. And this time, Seth, the rats that were taking the saline solution had their cancer stopped, prevented, and the ones with Latro didn't make any difference. So everybody said, anybody on our side said back then, Oh, they'll never get away with this. I'll never be able to cover this up. They'll never be able to lie like this.
• 14:55
  And Ed Griffin, who's 92 this year, he said, This is the genocide of our times. They had the answer. Sloan Kettering could have announced it to the world, Hey, we've got laser. We can wipe out cancer in our lifetime. This book is going to be 50 years old, Seth, and people have been dying needlessly without this information.
• 15:14
  And that's why we're so excited right now. We're going to do World Without Cancer. So the question you came up with was, are there studies? Are there histories? Are there all this stuff?
• 15:24
  Yes, there's thousands. There's so many studies. It's crazy. But the only ones the media talks about on YouTube or anywhere else is the ones that were paid for by big pharma and proved that Laotrope killed you. Literally, they said you'll be cyanide poisoned.
• 15:39
  Now, if that were true, I wouldn't be doing this for the last thirty years. Would have had thousands of people die. I've never had one. And all the years I've been doing this, the worst claim that we ever had in our insurance policy was broken teeth. But we've never came out and said, we have a cure, we're because if you do that on my website, you're not gonna find any cure for the C word.
• 16:00
  That's how you get shut down. So in the last year of my life, I've been accumulating all this data and I'm starting to publish it and put it out there and give it back out there. Because I know I'm gonna be a target sooner or later. But the good news, Seth, is I'm getting many, many doctors and other people like you that are willing to help me tell this story so we can spread it. Because the more of us are out there telling this story, this truth, the more likely we are going to have a world without cancer.
• 16:28
  Just imagine that thought. You can imagine it. It can be real and it's going to happen and with or without me.
• 16:35
  Seth Holehouse: So if I understand correctly, it's this substance, Latro, right, which is also, is it B17? Is that what the term is as well?
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Well, that is a little confusion. Thank you for asking that question. That's one of the common questions. B17 is the name that Ernst Krebs gave it in the 1970s when he purified it. And he also called it Laetrile.
• 16:55
  That's basically the best way I can explain it to you. It's a trade name. Laetrile is a trade name.
• 16:59
  Seth Holehouse: I see.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: And we use it interchangeably on our side. I use it for pure amygdalin. And amygdalin was in pharmacopias at the turn of the century. It's found in 1,200 different foods. It's the natural name of the substance that has two molecules of glucose, one of cyanide and one of benzaldehyde.
• 17:17
  It's got four molecules. The follow-up question is how the mechanism works, but let me just finish with the definition. Leotrile was what Krebs called it in the seventies, and that's what they promoted. And that's what the books were all written about and the studies were done. They called it Laetrile, the trade name.
• 17:34
  Was just, I don't know if it's like Tylenol and ibuprofen, but that's the term. Or like vitamin C and oranges. The apricot seed is basically the orange and leotrile or purified amygdalin is vitamin C. And vitamin C, for three hundred years, we knew it cured scurvy, but they didn't tell anybody. The elites knew, but they used it as population control even when they finally had sailors eating limes.
• 18:00
  And that's why they called them limes. That prevented scurvy. But people died by the thousands of this debilitating disease called scurvy, which is simply a lack of vitamin C. And that's what I believe, and the science proves it out, is that cancer is nothing more than a deficiency disease.
• 18:16
  Seth Holehouse: Crazy. So Yeah. Folks, I have a quick message for you. 2024 is do or die for the globalists and communists that want to absolutely destroy America. And one of the number one things they're gonna be targeting is our financial system, whether it's through bank collapses or a financial collapse or the market collapsing.
• 18:34
  Whatever it is, they will try to do anything possible to force us into their central bank digital currency because that's what gives them absolute and total control. And so if you have money sitting in a bank account, savings, four zero one k, stock market, etcetera, those are all vulnerable to these attacks. This is why I'm such a big believer in precious metals because they are an insurance policies against this global agenda to destroy America. And so folks, even if you do just a small portion of your assets into precious metals, you know that in case things go really bad, which I hope they don't, but unfortunately, I think that all the signs are pointing towards that happening, You know you have some aspect of your wealth that you can preserve through the chaos, protect your family. And so if you need someone that you can trust, that I personally trust extremely, extremely so much, it's doctor Kirk Kelly.
• 19:20
  He's a good friend of mine, and he's someone that will give you a fair price on precious metals, physical silver, and gold. So today, go to goldwithseth.com. Again, that's goldwithseth.com, or call (720) 605-3900 to speak to someone with on Kirk's team that will get you in their queue right away. We'll set up a free consultation with one of his wealth advisors. Again, folks, I don't wanna be a fearmonger, but I genuinely believe they're gonna be doing everything possible to collapse this system so they can control us.
• 19:50
  And physical gold and physical silvers are one of the best insurance policies to make sure that your family is protected against the great reset. I want to kind of dig in that a little bit. So you said that cancer is a deficiency disease, which is interesting, because I know that so many illnesses and diseases are actually just just that they're just deficiencies of things that are abundant in nature. And so now, what about someone that for instance, lives, say they live in a rural area, and there's, you know, farmers in Monsanto all around and you have increases in cancer from the, you know, the Monsanto chemicals. Obviously, you know, you would you would say that it's not just not just a deficiency disease, or is it just that there's a deficiency in the malignant?
• 20:41
  Is that how you pronounce it?
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Amygdalin. Amygdalin's hard to pronounce. And leotrole. They made the words really hard.
• 20:47
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, so
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: is it that there's
• 20:49
  Seth Holehouse: a deficiency in the leotrile that if you had more leotrile that it could actually counteract the chemical pesticides that would cause cancer?
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Well, another great question. I'm going to say this. I'm going to say that if you were radiated by a radiation machine, your body would break down its immune system. You'd probably die of cancer no matter how much Laetrile or amygdalin you had, or if you're poisoned consistently. But I don't know of anybody in my lifetime, and Ed Griffin who wrote this book is 92.
• 21:18
  He doesn't sell Laotrole B17. He sells his books and he does Red Pill Expos. He will tell you he doesn't know anybody that's regularly taken nitricides, which Laotrole is. It's a cyanocobalamin, just like B12. Cyanocobalamin means cyanide.
• 21:34
  He doesn't know anybody that regularly takes it that's ever died of cancer. Now, is there cases of somebody that has had stage four, gotten radiation chemotherapy, and then they got on Latro and still died? Many of those cases. The percentage of rebounding from all that chemotherapy radiation is only like sixteen percent. But in the grand scheme of things, that's a huge success.
• 21:54
  Sixteen percent is huge. In Mexico, they've done back studies that show that anybody that takes a natural treatment for cancer first using Laotrole, vitamin C, ozone therapy has about an eighty six percent success rate. So there's still some things out there that we don't know. And if we were spending as much money studying Laotrole as we do studying drugs that they sell, the chemotherapy drugs that are trying to kill the cancer before they kill you are $8,000 10 thousand dollars 1 hundred thousand dollars for those courses, where apricot seeds and B17 is pennies. So if you're living in a rural area and you're getting radiated and all that kind of stuff, it still pays to go back to God's most natural diet.
• 22:36
  I did a podcast with a gentleman, Tim, yesterday, and we both were talking about God created a plant for every disease. I know that sounds funny, you notice how the people that you know that eat the best and exercise and take care of themselves are the healthiest people you know? If you stay away from Don't eat McDonald's. Don't eat Burger King. Don't eat Jack in the Box.
• 22:56
  Don't eat fast foods because they have no nutritional value in it. So it's not just cancer that gets better if you eat a diet full of lima beans, millet, barley, apricot seeds, peach seeds, sorghum molasses. The little seeds on the side of strawberries have amygdalin. Those are all good things. And the other thing that's really important for people to know is don't overcook your food.
• 23:20
  Because when you cook food with amygdala in it for three fifty degrees for fifteen minutes, it destroys all the water soluble vitamins. They vibrate so quickly that they burst apart and they become, there's no value to them. You can cook apricot seeds in the oven for twenty minutes and they'll be sweet. They won't have any bitter flavor in them anymore. And that's the whole point of eating the apricot seeds.
• 23:43
  So the answer to the question is a diet full of nutrition is going to help you prevent lots and lots of diseases. And I believe, and many studies have proven, that B17 is the one that will wipe out cancer in our lifetime. I said again, this book is 50 years old next year, and we're launching World Without Cancer. And it's not something I have a patent on or trademark. I want this information to get out there.
• 24:10
  And anybody who wants to sell apricot seeds or anybody who wants to sell B17, I help them. I private label, I do get it out there so we can tell the story. I'm about changing the world, not selling a bag of apricot seeds.
• 24:22
  Seth Holehouse: I see. So basically, so what what it is is that this this b seventeen, it's not like, say someone comes in with a, you know, stage three, you know, big tumor. It's not like they can all of a sudden eat all these apricot seeds and magically cures that cancer. It's more so that making that say getting on a daily regimen of consuming this and getting it into your body, it gives you what you need to actually prevent the cancer in the first place, right?
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: That's true. That is very true. But to say that it doesn't help the C U R E is the word we all get in trouble for. Say it doesn't help would be lying to you, Seth,
• 25:00
  Seth Holehouse: because I see. Okay.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: My dad had thousands of cases. This is one that I like to show people because this young man right here, it's a little confusing. This young man in the middle of my dad's book was my age. We played together on this fence on the back of my dad's office in Albany, California. And this was his cancer in his arm.
• 25:22
  And he had it spread to his spine, his spleen, his liver. And he was given, he was sent home and given forty five days to live. His parents were told, go home, take care of your son, love him up, hold him tight, but he won't be around in two months. That's what he was told. His name was Shane Horton and he was my age and we played in the back fence.
• 25:42
  This is him, his x-ray, post treatment for my dad. This is his x-ray. This is him playing on the fence. And guess what? Shane is a 58, soon to be 59 year old Alaskan crab fisherman that still eats leytrel to this day and still and when they updated the book, he's still around.
• 26:02
  And he does grounding. He does videos on grounding as well. So he's still taking eating his apricot seeds and doing and that kind of story, Seth, is thousands of those stories. Every conference, every Clay Clark conference I go to, I get stories like that. And in the past, I wouldn't videotape them or get people to tell me those stories because I was afraid.
• 26:21
  But now I'm trying collect those stories from people. I get emails every day and I'm trying to collect those stories and publish it and get it out there. And I'm trying to, I'm getting Nikki Willis to redo World Without Cancer, which is a video by G. R. Griffin that proved that if we put this in our diet, we could wipe out cancer.
• 26:40
  It's really hard for us to believe that, but we, on our side, need to know that that truth is self evident and will be the case if we just get this word out there.
• 26:51
  Seth Holehouse: Which, I mean, it's absolutely incredible because for for so many reasons, but a one that you're still alive, that your, you know, father wasn't, you know, you know, assassinated or something because I've heard so many stories of doctors that have found alternative treatments, just like the guys that invent the cars that run on water, that they end up in a ditch somewhere with, you know, self inflicted two shots to the back of the head somehow. Right? So but this, I mean, this information and I and I feel so privileged being able to be a conduit to get this information out to more people because the medical industrial complex, which I think has shown its true face. It's like the Fabian Society logo. It's it's a wolf in sheep's clothing.
• 27:38
  They've now taken off the sheep mask, and you I think most people now see their wolves. And they they don't just want to make money off you. They want to kill you. Industrial complex, which is cancer. I mean, if if every person in America watched this video, and then started eating apricot seeds daily, and in ten years, we had no more cancer in America, or, you know, by, you know, say, we reduced it by ninety nine percent.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 28:06
  Seth Holehouse: That, I mean, that is is a massive blow to this Rockefeller medical industrial complex.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: And what you just said in your calm demeanor is exactly what I live my life for. And I could get tearful because it's what my dad gave his life for. And I can tell you the story. You said, you know, it's amazing he wasn't killed. He was raided by the FBI, the Food and Drug Administration, the California Medical Board.
• 28:34
  His officers raided. All of his nurses were arrested. All of his records were taken. All of his leotro was taken. He had a seven year old girl that was on a gurney and she was the last patient that they didn't remove because her leg was full of cancer and she had one treatment for my father and she was there for a second treatment.
• 28:54
  And the FDA agent, even that was there arresting my father, kind of was like, Oh, what can we do? My dad felt morally obligated to give her But he thought if I do give her Leotrope right now, they're to even They're here to arrest me to take me to jail. So instead, he just bandaged her up, cleaned up her wounds and told her, you know, we'll see you soon and was sent off. And then he was taken to jail with all of his nurses and all of his records taken. Well, he got out of jail and came back to his practice and had to refind all of his records and do everything, but he continued treating people.
• 29:27
  But that little girl in the week that my dad was dealing with this, or the two weeks he was dealing with this, passed away.
• 29:34
  Seth Holehouse: Hey, folks, I have a quick message for you. Thank you so much for watching and listening to this interview. I have one small request. If you're enjoying what you're listening to, could you please share this interview with one person, just one person, because of censorship and shadow banning, it's so hard to get this content out to more people, and the only way we can really do it is when you help by sharing it. So if you like what you're listening to, hit pause, share it with one person.
• 29:59
  It helps so much. Thank you so much.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: My dad says in his book that that was the day when he realized that that there was no stopping. He was gonna do whatever took to tell this to the world and give his life if it meant that to stop this evil because he felt it was evil that these people were for financial reasons only or because they're we were just told to do it. We don't you know, when we talked to these guys, he would treat some of these people and they would still be part of the gestapo to take them down. So he was part of that. And Seth, I spent twenty five years being hidden.
• 30:35
  I sold apricot seeds and kind of was on a website with my brother, and we kind of told the story. But BuzzFeed reached out to me about seven years ago, funny story, and said, we're gonna do a balanced story on Leatron, your dad, and give me, you know, access to you and all. And so I gave him stories and reports and things like that, even though I had never done that before. And the article that came out, and sometimes I show it when they said, oh, we're gonna do a balanced report, had skull and crossbones on the front of it made out of apricot seeds and B17 was the eyes, the capsules. But they went on and told stories about my dad was a quack and had his medical license taken away, and they had reports of people that have been poisoned by this and that.
• 31:18
  But the funny part is that if if I gave you that article today and you did a deep dive in all the articles, they were all pro B17 and proving that people were cured. One guy was sent to the hospital with cyanide poisoning, he continued to treat his cancer and cured his cancer. That was one of the stories they put in there. We had 50,000 people come to our website seven years ago. It did cause a rift between my brother and I because he was like, John, I don't wanna put a target on us.
• 31:43
  I don't wanna do that. But I decided at that time that I didn't care anymore, that I was gonna tell the story. So I go on, and the only thing there you go. You found it right there. Is that amazing?
• 31:53
  Seth Holehouse: Incredible. That's what this is the story they published.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Will tell you I'm gonna go ahead and do it right in front of you. Amazon will tell you that if you eat three of these, can die of cyanide poisoning. Happy to come on a show and explain how that's not true, but anyway, I ate 40 a day and at trade shows like Clay Clark, I'll eat 100 to 150. And that there he is. That is it, seven years ago.
• 32:17
  And so, basically, I figured out that there's no bad news. So, let's get the story out there. And that was a company I had with my brother as well. It was Apricot Power and this rift between my brother and I caused us to separate to why I restarted my dad's company. My brother's still in business, I still love him, but he decided to, you know, not say this side of it and we just had a different opinion.
• 32:44
  So I go and speak. I just did spoke at Clay Clark, and I'm probably putting a target on myself, but the good news is, I'm gaining followers and people that are gonna take over if they do decide to take me out, and all my 11 kids know that if anything ever happens to me, I'm not committing suicide, I'm very happy, I just got married last weekend, happiest day of my life, Wonderful woman who's the CEO of AMP News. And I'm getting this story out there, come hell or high water. And people like you are helping me do it. And some amazing other people like Ty and Charlene Bollinger or Doctor.
• 33:17
  Rashid Batar who was taken out. He was a friend of mine. He was telling his patients, people are telling the story. I'm not saying he was taken out for Laetrile. I think he was taken out for something, you know, he was telling the truth too much on CNN.
• 33:29
  Anyway, I'm not afraid. So you're not afraid. You're a hero of mine. Everybody who's out there putting a voice to the truth is a hero of mine because you could have not imagined your show being successful seven or ten years ago. You'd be wiped off.
• 33:44
  You wouldn't be able to be broadcasting anywhere. You know? So now you can tell the truth.
• 33:49
  Seth Holehouse: Well, I mean, it's it's interesting because they're they're losing control, and and that's just that that's where right? I mean, it's not that we're there's no threat of the cabal and that they're completely powerless. I think they're they're very dangerous, but they are losing control. And I think COVID was a big one. The vaccines were a big one.
• 34:09
  I think a lot of people that were just trusting of the doctor on CNN, they're trusting of their own local doctor. And now they're dealing with heart issues. They're dealing with cancer. They're dealing and they're doing their own research, and they're discovering. And so, you know, platforms like Rumble, which allow us to have these conversations.
• 34:28
  I mean, this obviously won't go up onto YouTube. I get my channel deleted. So it's it's absolutely
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Was your channel on YouTube deleted?
• 34:38
  Seth Holehouse: No. It's still up. But I I only Did you
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: edit it?
• 34:42
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. I only put about 20% of any anything I do up on there. I put the rest over on Rumble. I I just mostly put financial
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I hope Rumble I hope Rumble just takes it over, and I think it will. And and patriots like us, when we abandon the YouTube but I I still find value in YouTube because here's a funny story, Seth. If you put a video, anti Laotrole video, you could do a search yourself. Do your own research. Do an anti video on Laotrole or b seventeen on YouTube, and they'll get you'll even though it says it's horrible, poisoned up, you'll get 3,000 comments in the comment section of all the people that have cured their cancer and wiped it out and their mom and their grandmother, and they've been eating this to their kid.
• 35:20
  Nobody dying of cyanide poisoning, which is all the lie. The FDA said in the seventies, it can't work the way they say it because we in the laboratory even get it to separate into cyanide. Because guess what, Seth? Again, a whole subject I could talk about, but beta glucosidase, the enzyme that breaks it apart is only found in cancer cells. That's why it works.
• 35:40
  And rhodonase is found in healthy cells and rhodonase breaks the cyanide and benzaldehyde down into analgesics. So you feel less pain, you feel better. So it also has a pain relieving thing and it makes your lungs work better. All of these amazing things. I tell people, send me an email to contactrncstore dot com and I'll send you a list of 17 things, amazing things that apricot seeds are good for without even mentioning the C word.
• 36:05
  And so it's bitter. That's why we don't like it. So we have to find ways to get in our diet. I just ate five of them and it's still bitter, but that's not a good excuse anymore. You know the answer.
• 36:16
  Just because they're bitter doesn't mean you don't do it.
• 36:19
  Seth Holehouse: Basically, I remember growing up and being told, don't eat the apple seeds, they have cyanide in them, which is just kind of funny, right? So if I understand correctly what how you just explained it, and this will be a very simplified version of what's what's going on, is that that apricot seed has a high dose of cyanide in it. That cyanide, which obviously is a poison if it's just, you know, if you drink cyanide, it would kill you. That Let me
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: correct you before your
• 36:46
  Seth Holehouse: Please do.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Yes. Doesn't have any cyanide. There's no free cyanide in apricot seed. What I just ate, I didn't just eat cyanide. It's locked tightly in a molecule called amygdalin, and amygdalin is found in those 1,200 different foods.
• 36:58
  Amygdalin is one of the compounds locked tightly, is called cyanide, and one is benzaldehyde. Benzaldehyde is actually more poisonous than cyanide. But Seth, the brilliance of God is that it's only released in the presence of a cancer cell. So it really is a natural God given chemotherapy that doesn't have any negative side effects. The only side effects are more oxygen, more appetite, your hair growing back, all those types of things.
• 37:23
  My dad found all that to happen. So yes, there's cyanide in the compound, but just like when you take a B12 shot, Cyanide.
• 37:30
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• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Well, the enzyme called beta glucosidase, which is something again, can research. Beta glucosidase is found primarily in cancer cells. That's where it's found primarily. It's found in other places, and that's why people have suggested in the past, if you don't even want an upset stomach, you can get an upset stomach from eating too many apricot seeds and people go, Oh, I'm being cyanide poisoned, because that's what the media says. No, it's just your body digesting it.
• 38:23
  And sometimes it's just the byproducts of it killing cancer cells. I can say that on your show, it's the byproduct of killing the cancer cells that the body gets an upset stomach. So sometime the people with the most cancer in their body get the most reaction to a upset stomach. And so they just have to eat, have more rhodonase, which is like found in apples and in apricot flesh. So a lot of doctors recommend, not doctors, a lot of people recommend eating the apricot seeds with the natural fruit as well.
• 38:54
  There is, Krebs did the studies in the seventies. I want your audience to hear this. They found that Laetrile pure amygdalin was less toxic than sugar. Well, now you and I know how toxic sugar is. My wife says, Don't say it's less toxic to sugar because everybody knows that means the Laetrile is still toxic.
• 39:11
  Well, no, you can eat more Laetrile and not have any side effects than you can of sugar. You're gonna get the side effects much quicker, and cancer loves sugar.
• 39:20
  Seth Holehouse: I see. Which is funny because, you know, we you know, growing up, we always hear the saying, an apple a day keeps the keeps the doctor away. It's just I mean, it's so funny that there's probably an old saying that they knew that if if you keep eating your apples and don't spit out the seeds and folks, have a quick message for you. Look, the twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communists that have infiltrated our country and are currently running it. And they either have to win or they're gonna destroy America so nothing is left either way.
• 39:51
  And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared, especially as we head in to this next year and this next election cycle. Because unfortunately, I think it's gonna get rough. And one of the ways I know they're going to target us is through our food supply. You can see all the food factories burned down. You can see the warnings of coming famines and food shortages and everything like that.
• 40:16
  And food is one of the number one ways totalitarian regimes have always used to control the populations destroy the food supply. So if you don't have at least two, three, four, five, six months worth of stored food, I highly recommend you take that very seriously. Because look, as I mentioned, if you're the person that's watching this, you're the person that carries the burden of making sure your family is prepared. I would recommend at least six months, if not a year of storable food. So if things go haywire, whether it's grid down or terrorist attack from what's coming across the border, that your family can safely stay in place and you can feed your family.
• 40:51
  So folks today, go to heavensharvest.com and make sure you get your storable food that'll last for up to twenty five years. Just in case things go south, you know that you have what's gonna take to feed your family, which is so so critical for us to get through this next stage of history. So go to heavensharvest.com today, order your food that'll last up to twenty five years and use promo code Seth to save 15% on your entire order. Again, that's heavensharvest.com and use promo code Seth, s e t h, to save 15% on your entire order. So so tell us more so I mean, as I mentioned before, my my wife, she went and she ordered, probably, I think on Amazon or somewhere, just a big, you know, probably a a five pound bag of of bulk organic apricot seeds.
• 41:37
  Yep. Mhmm. Which obviously, you know, those can be purchased a lot of different places. But so tell us what you're doing with your company, with RNC. Right?
• 41:47
  With so I'll pull the website Yeah. Go
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: ahead. One of the one of the things is I'm making it available. I'm getting the information out there, but I only give information that people request it. If I use it to market it and you don't find anything about the c word on our website
• 42:03
  Seth Holehouse: I see.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Then we don't we we make sure that we don't mention that because you'll find different ways to to censor us. But what we're doing is is being good source of it. And we basically only sell California apricot seeds. Why we only do sell California apricot seeds? The reason is because we know from start to finish where they come from.
• 42:23
  So the organic ones on the internet, I'm not slamming any of their companies because anybody that sells apricot seeds, they're friends of mine, but the organic ones are usually from Turkey and sometimes from China. And so my family has always come from California because we know where it comes from. And all of our stuff is tested pesticide free, which is the real reason you get anything that's organic. The stuff coming from Turkey, you have to trust the Turkish government or the Chinese, you have to trust the Chinese government. So it's splitting hairs maybe, but that's why our family's always done it.
• 42:54
  For thirty years, we've we've bought we've kinda controlled the California market not to stifle it, but to make sure that it kept going because some people were ripping out the apricots because it's so expensive to pick them because they can't, they have to be handpicked. So they're ripping out the apricot trees and putting almond trees or apple trees or something else. And so the supply of apricot seeds is going down and now it's coming back up. So it's something that we've done along with my dad and G. Ever Griffin since the seventies is trying to have a supply of apricot seeds.
• 43:24
  For years there, it was tough, but now we kind of, we have the supply chain okay. And we don't put it all in one basket, if you know what I mean?
• 43:32
  Seth Holehouse: Makes sense. For the
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: obvious reasons. But I also said, I mean this, I will sell to any doctor that wants to private label or I support any friends that have a, that want, I'm starting another brand from somebody, a friend of mine, because the more people that are getting out there, my dream is to have it available at your local health food store. And that's, you know, for years we tried doing it that way and we have gotten a lot of health food stores, but we just found direct to consumer or wholesaling has been the best way to get this message out there. So that's what we do.
• 44:01
  Seth Holehouse: So walk me through two different approaches to this. Let's say, you know, approach one is me. I'm a healthy person. I don't have any cancer. I want to just include this in my daily vitamin, you know, kind of intake.
• 44:14
  That's, you know, that's kind of version one. Version two is Sam, somebody that has recently been diagnosed with, say, stage two cancer, and I want to start bringing this in as part of not the not the treatment or the cure, but to help my body be healthy amidst that. So walk us through what those both look like. And if there's any certain products on your website you want me to pull up, I can have that available as well.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, it's real simple. Because it is a deficiency disease, even if you have stage three, stage four, the response is usually just more strict. And in my dad's book, also something I'll send out free of charge to anybody that asks, just send an email to contact RNC store and I'll send out the list of my dad's protocol, exactly what it was. Clean water, clean air, stay away from meat, vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin E, eating whole foods, non cooked foods. But then the amount of was based on how bad the situation was.
• 45:16
  Up to, people in Mexico and my dad would use up to twelve grams a day. Now an apricot seed has twenty milligrams a day. So when I eat forty, I'm getting eight hundred milligrams a day. My dad would use up to twelve three in the morning lunch and dinner of IVs. So up to nine grams a day.
• 45:38
  And the clinics in Mexico do the same thing because they found that when someone had the serious issues that they really needed to hit it. And not always, not every case were they able to beat it. But that's for another show. You asked, What's the difference? The difference is the amount that you're doing.
• 45:57
  My dad said one hundred to two hundred milligrams a day for the average healthy person, eating a good diet and taking also the B15, which we offer on our website. We kind of call it the prevention bundle. We kind of like go right up to the line. We don't say preventing what? We just call it the prevention bundle and let people figure out on their own, do their own research of what that's preventing.
• 46:19
  It includes the one hundred milligrams, B15, which is an oxygenator for the blood. And again, another show we could do, but this is found in apricot seeds too. And it helps oxygenate the blood and also your muscles. So your oxygen I mean, cancer hates oxygen. So that's one my dad said, we call it sometimes the big three.
• 46:41
  And then the pancreatic enzymes. Almost everybody that's either fighting cancer or has it in their body has a problem with their pancreas creating the enzymes it needs to fight off cancer. So that's the three pronged approach. The most important of one of being the B17, but the overall of changing your diet, changing your habits, there's the website. And change your habits and change what you do.
• 47:10
  So for you, I recommend every friend, family, anybody that's doing it to do the prevention bundle. It's a hundred dollars for a three month supply and it's like a dollar a day. And I do it every single day and everybody I love does it every single day. And that's that's called the prevention bundle. We did it for that purpose.
• 47:27
  It's kind of a simple thing. It's one per day and that's for a healthy person. Now, if you already eat a great diet and you're already healthy, you're probably, if you look at your foods, there's 1,200 foods, you're probably eating more Laetrile or B17 than the average person. So that's probably a great thing. If your wife already eats natural foods, you'll be surprised at how many foods have amygdalin in them on the list.
• 47:51
  Get it sometimes. It even surprises me because it's 1,200 different things. I can't memorize them all. I memorize the ones that are most easy to say. I think Golgi berries.
• 48:02
  There are certain berries that have amygdalin too. And Ed Griffin did a study of an Alaskan society that ate the bile duct of this elk and it was full of nitricides and they had no cancer in their society. He has another one of the Hunsas that eat 200 apricot seeds a day, and at the turn of the century, they were living to be 140 years old. And he said, What better studies is than that? But the case histories go on and on and on.
• 48:34
  There's 70 of them in my dad's book that all had cancer at a normal hospital and then came back to that same hospital after being treated with my dad and were found cancer free. That's the only ones that made it in the book. But he treated thousands that wouldn't even go back to a normal hospital again. And like I said, the stories are out there. It's just they've done such a good job demonizing it.
• 48:55
  If you tell someone you're eating 10 apricot seeds, they'll tell you, half your friends will tell you, you're crazy. You're gonna kill yourself from cyanide poisoning. The truth is you're crazy if you don't do it.
• 49:05
  Seth Holehouse: Gosh. Well, this has been quite enlightening to say the least, and it makes me think, gosh, like, I mean,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: like, you
• 49:13
  Seth Holehouse: know, a dollar a day. We we, you know, we live in such a poisonous society. I mean, I mean, I've I've done whole episodes of with people like Dane Wiggington about chemtrails, all the substances are in the sky, what they're putting into our water, the pesticides, not to mention five g radiation. I mean, it's just there's no wonder that, you know, cancer is skyrocketing. And then you talk about the vaccine and and the shedding, and it's just it's a frightening time.
• 49:41
  So this seems like a really good solution to that. So John, I just I thank you for coming on the show, but I also I thank you for just dedicating your life to this because as someone again who's lost, you know, my best friend of cancer, if I could have gone back in time and prevented that, I would give anything without opportunity. And so I just I appreciate what you're doing and helping get this information out, which is just so critical.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Seth. I appreciate you letting me come on. There's sometimes people are afraid of the subject. And if we live in fear, we're to die in fear. And I'd much rather die standing on my feet telling the story than live as a slave on my knees.
• 50:24
  That's not how I wanna live or how I want any of my family or friends to live. So it's a privilege to be able to get the word out to your audience. And I'm gonna find some new friends and some new converts. And believe it or not, we'll find some new soldiers that wanna fight along with us to tell the story. And so it's it's a great it's a great time to be alive.
• 50:43
  It's it's not scary. It's a great time to be alive. We're fighting the battle, and and I believe we're winning the battle.
• 50:49
  Seth Holehouse: I agree. I agree. Well, thank you, John.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 50:53
  Seth Holehouse: Alright, folks. I hope you enjoyed the interview. We've now got a very important fifteen minute economic update with my good friend, Doctor. Kirk Elliott. Kirk, man, it's so good to have you on.
• 51:03
  Thank you so much for being here today.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's so great to be with you.
• 51:08
  Seth Holehouse: So for the folks that are watching, this is gonna be a little bit different format than our typical show with Kirk where we might go for forty five, fifty, even minutes, even an hour. What we're going to be doing is we're gonna be having more often shows but really short snippets. So it's probably closer to ten minutes. That way we can bring you just a really, really important financial and economic update in a way that you don't have to watch a forty five, fifty minute show to get the gold nugget out of that interview. So Kirk, let's go ahead and dive right into what we wanna talk about today, which is the debt of the government.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is a big deal, and and we've heard kind of roundabout stories about how bad the debt is. Right? When when you've got McCarthy who was ousted as speaker of the house because he passed the debt ceiling, right, without just a blank check for forty five days, and the the financial hardliners and the GOP said, off with your head. We're done. And then you go through the whole rigmarole of Scalise and Jim Jordan, you know, saying, well, we're we're hardliners.
• 52:12
  We're gonna draw a line in the sand, and then they get the ousted. Right? That's like, no. We don't want you either because we need to spend money. We need to actually have a printing press that will continue to stimulate the economy because it's an election year coming up.
• 52:27
  Right? No politician wants the government to shut down, wants to run out of money when they're trying to get reelected. That's bad PR. So so to me, you've you've got like two parts of the GOP. You've got the the ones that are like the the Trump Reagan type GOP.
• 52:44
  Said, let's let's not curtail some of the spending. And then you've got the other ones which I would say are kind of like the uni party in cahoots with the democrats and cahoots with the world economic forum, the globalist saying, we want this other agenda. We're going to print money like there's no tomorrow and create a dependent class. So there's this battle, this ideological battle happening. To me, it all boils around to debt.
• 53:12
  So if you look back to the beginning of our country, 1776, and I think this whole this little story here, it's just gonna take me a couple minutes to go through. It's gonna kind of freak people out a little bit. Because 1776 to 1980, when Reagan became president, the debt was just under a trillion dollars. It was like 900 and something billion. So that took two hundred and four years to go from 0 to 900 and something billion dollars of debt.
• 53:43
  K? Now just last month alone, in the last thirty days, we added $600,000,000,000 to the federal debt in thirty days. So it took two hundred and four years to accumulate 900 and something billion. We just did 600,000,000,000 in thirty days. It's like, man, you're spending like drunken sailors.
• 54:07
  You know, I hate to to take Stanley Druckenmiller's thunder, right, because he just had a had a interview where he said, the government needs to stop spending like drunken sailors and cut entitlements. Why would he say cut entitlements? Is that really a big chunk of our federal spending? Yeah. It really is.
• 54:28
  When you look at Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, women, infant, children programs, it's it's over 80% of everything that we bring in as a country every year. 80%. So there's absolutely zero way politicians will ever balance the budget because you can't run the country on the 20% that's left. And if you actually do balance the budget, you're gonna take away you're gonna cut off the hand that feeds you, your votes. Right?
• 54:57
  So it's an awful thing to say about politicians, and there's some good ones in here. But overall, they stopped looking at people as people, and they started looking at people as votes. And therefore, they're not going to take away. It's really easy to give. It's really hard to take away, which is why I don't think that we are going to actually see a reduction in spending.
• 55:18
  We're not going to see a reduction in inflation for quite some time because you you look at what's coming up in 2024, an election year. The BRICS nations add six out of nine of the largest oil producers in the world, which means they're no longer gonna use the US dollar as the petrodollar. They're gonna use their own currencies. There's no demand for US treasuries, which means they're gonna have to print their way out of all these expenses. That's gonna cause inflation.
• 55:46
  Ultimately, interest rates are gonna have to rise. That's when they print money like there's no tomorrow that adds to the federal debt that's already mushroom clouding and growing parabolically and exponentially. It's like, this is a problem that I don't think politicians know how to fix.
• 56:04
  Seth Holehouse: And this chart right here is from Statista says well, if look at this, is May of this year, where they're showing the debt at 31 and a half trillion, which now I think is what, over 33,000,000,000,000. Right? I mean
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's like 33 and a trillion. So it's, yeah, it's up a couple trillion since May.
• 56:24
  Seth Holehouse: And just looking at the rise from 1966, when they first, you know, started tracking on this particular chart, obviously, it wasn't zero, but compared to over 30,000,000,000,000, it was basically zero. And it just, I mean, where is it in? That's the question that I have with this is what does this lead to? And what does that mean to the average person in America that's got a four zero one ks, they're just trying to work, they've got their some money in the savings account or whatever, and they're just trying to survive. What does all this debt mean to us?
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: So the only reason we could have all this debt is because we are the world's reserve currency. We were the petrodollar that we could have built in demand for our currencies. That now just changed. Right? With the emergence of the BRICS nations, I it it's hard to blame everything on BRICS, you know, but but yet they're actually stripping away demand for our currency.
• 57:22
  The problem is ours because we spent money that, like, there was no tomorrow. But now this is a pendulum shifting moment that they're taking advantage of. So to me, when you look at it, if we don't have the world's reserve currency status and we have to have discretion in our spending, what does that make us the equivalent of? Every other country in the world that wasn't the reserve currency. Look at Venezuela.
• 57:46
  Lost demand for their currency internationally. They now go through massive hyperinflation. Look at Zimbabwe. Look at Argentina. Look at any country.
• 57:56
  Look what's happening in Japan. Right? They're not the world's reserve currency. They're they're the yen is now collapsing. Their real estate is collapsing.
• 58:06
  They've gone through decades of an inflationary recession, and and it's just ugly. I mean, it's so bad in Japan. They have to have multigenerational home loans just for people to afford them. I mean, that's how bad the inflation has gotten. It's like, we think it's like a thirty year mortgage.
• 58:25
  Try adding an eighty year mortgage or ninety year mortgage, right? It's like you have to bring in multi generations of families to actually finance a house. And so this is the world that we're entering into now, which none of us that are alive today have know what it's like to live in that world because we became the world's reserve currency in 1944. Right? So so even if you were born that year, you're you're well over 80 years old right now.
• 58:55
  Right? So so you don't most of the people in America do not know a world where we're not the reserve currency, and it's about to change. So historically, reserve currencies never last. Like, a % of the time, they fail. We just happen to be alive when when our reserve currency is gonna fail.
• 59:15
  And it just means our standard of living, our way of living needs to change. And who does this impact the most? Politicians who who can't just willy nilly go on spending sprees, add $600,000,000,000 to the debt in thirty days because it now truly does matter. It it it is going to matter or else we lose all demand all demand for our currency because it's viewed as monopoly money all over the world. This is problematic moving forward.
• 59:44
  Seth Holehouse: So basically, in the same way that 02/2008, we saw the real estate bubble, right, in many ways, it was the subprime mortgages and all that. But it was really, it was almost criminal activity behind the scenes, the banking industry that led to that particular bubble bursting, you know, tech industry, you know, around 2thousand,.com. Whereas now, is it that we're entering into a stage of, like the bubble is actually the debt? Like the bubble is the giant massive amount of money that like underpins everything in our society. So if that pops, which you can only blow up a balloon for so long, then everything falls out.
• 1:00:20
  Is that correct?
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So the question is, this balloon is going to pop, but is it going to be like a slow leak where you like with a scissors, the part where you blow it up? Are you just going to cut that a little bit and it slowly comes out? Or are just going to prick it with a pen and it just explodes? Right?
• 1:00:40
  This is what we don't know. My gut tells me this balloon is so tight. It's so overinflated that it's not gonna be a slow leak. It's going to be a pop, and it's gonna burst, and and it's gonna be one of those more immediate things. And you're gonna have mainstream media say, what?
• 1:01:00
  The economy is just collapsing. We didn't see this coming. It was a black swan. It's like, oh my word. What do we do?
• 1:01:05
  Right? And stock markets are it's like, no. We saw this coming. It's called debt and lowering wages and rising taxes and rising interest rates all added together. It's not hard to see what the final outcome is gonna be.
• 1:01:20
  But we then, as wise, prudent people who hear God's word, can act with boldness, courage, and hope and confidence in all of this and say, okay, we can see that this is coming. So how do you then protect yourself from it? Right? This is God gives us the wisdom to understand the times that we're living in and then we'll know what to do moving forward. The sons of Issachar in Chronicles.
• 1:01:46
  It's like they understood the times and they knew what to do. God highlighted them because of that. It's like there's other people that are just mentioned in lineages. It's like somebody begat somebody and somebody begat somebody. And, oh, then there was the sons of Iscar who understood the times and knew what to do.
• 1:02:02
  And then that keeps going on with the lineage. Why does he point certain people out? Right? It's because he wants us to focus on that. That's why you you emphasize anything.
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  So he wants us in today's world to understand the times and know what to do. That's how we can live with a smile on our face and have confidence moving forward because we're using biblical wisdom to move forward, and that will bring peace in the midst of the storm. I'm not saying that the storm is gonna go away, and that's why we have peace. I think we're gonna have peace in the midst of it because we're using biblical wisdom to get through it.
• 1:02:40
  Seth Holehouse: Makes sense. And so how does that apply into the this the the nuts and bolts of this?
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  Speaker 3: Nuts and bolts, I would say a couple of things. Number one, if you have debt, you need to get out of debt. Rising interest rates in a world of high debt is the kiss of death. Right? It's like you're going be pinched more and more every single month.
• 1:03:02
  You've been talking about another notion that for a long time with more preparedness. Have food. Have your own food supply. Have a garden. You know, have something where when push comes to shove, you are a little bit more self sustaining.
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  Right? So investment wise, I mean, those are two easy things to do. Investment wise, it's also easy, but you need when you identify these trends, get out of the things that are coming down and get into the things that are going up. Unsustainable debt, inflationary pressures, political chaos, geopolitical conflict generally cause stocks and bonds to come down. So therefore, I would get out of them.
• 1:03:44
  I'm not talking about even individual stocks. I'm never gonna say Apple stinks or Google stinks or Facebook stinks or General Motors is great. It's like, I I don't care. I'm talking about general rule of thumb when you have these foundational issues of a of a collapsing economy and a shrinking economy where spending is down, the stock market is a function of revenue. That's what it is.
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  So if revenue is down because people can't spend, well, I would probably get out. Right? Bond market is terrible in a rising interest rate environment because the value of bonds comes down as interest rates go up. Not saying bonds are bad. Saying they're bad for right now.
• 1:04:26
  They were great for the last forty years as interest rates are coming down since the early eighties. So therefore, those two are kind of out for the time being, in my opinion, as an economist. Not an investment adviser. I'm not I'm not talking about individual things here, but broad picture view, I would get out and what I would do is allocate into strength, which would be tangible assets like gold, like silver. Real estate is a tangible asset, but here's an important distinction to make.
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  All else being equal, real estate would go up like gold and silver because it's a thing. Like oil and gas, just like coal,
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  Speaker 2: just
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  Speaker 3: like steel, things go up with inflation. The problem with real estate is it's debt based. You have to finance it to buy it usually because nobody has that much cash laying around. So if interest rates go up and wages come down, it's hard to qualify for it. Therefore, those prices, you're going to have this anchor on it from it doing what it should do in a time of inflation.
• 1:05:27
  Where nondebt based tangible assets like gold and silver, you don't have that anchor. So that's how I would protect myself in an inflationary world like we're in. With gold and silver, you can own them through an IRA, non IRA, you take delivery of it, you store it. Everybody's different. Depends on how you own it, but we can help people navigate through that.
• 1:05:49
  Seth Holehouse: And what's the best way for folks to get ahold of you? I know that we've got the the website links at goldwithseth.com. There's a little form on there. They can also call you. Right?
• 1:05:57
  This is just call pick up the phone and call you. You're here in America with real American people. Right?
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: We will answer the phone, and we'll talk to you. Right? Which is good. And and that number is simply (720) 605-3900, and just say Seth sent you. I mean, that's easy if you want to kind of jump right to the front of the line.
• 1:06:18
  Just give us a call right away, right? Because the phones do ring quite often after shows, right? So just give us a call, and we'll get you to front line or simply go to goldwithseth.com, fill out the form. And same thing, we will give you a callback within twenty four hours. And unless it's on a weekend, then first business day.
• 1:06:39
  Right. But we will call you back right away to set up a time for you to talk to one of our advisors and map out a strategy for success moving forward that you can either take it or leave it. Just because we talk to you doesn't mean you have to do something. We want you to feel comfortable with the plan moving forward to get you out of the path of this hurricane. And this is our goal is to walk you through the pros, the cons, the how to's.
• 1:07:05
  And then if you decide, yeah, this sounds like something great for me to do, like, tens of thousands of people have, and we've got a lot of clients all over the world. My team does the rest. We cross the t's. We dot the i's. We take care of the asset transfers.
• 1:07:20
  I mean, we will do everything for you other than filling out a couple of pieces of paperwork. Off to the races we go.
• 1:07:25
  Seth Holehouse: Well, perfect. Well, Kirk, thank you again. It's always great to have you on. I'll see you next week.
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  Speaker 3: Awesome. We'll see you.