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Drive Thru News #48 - Boun Ferragosto! (Car Week 2024) · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Welcome to the jungle.
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Okay.
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Welcome to drive through episode number 48.
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This is our monthly recap, where we've put together a menu of automotive,
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motorsport and car adjacent news.
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No Shoei PBs in this episode.
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Now, let's pull up to window number one for some automotive news.
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What do we got, Eric?
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Ah, number 48.
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Are you ready for this?
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I'm as ready as I always am.
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I opted to work on the car rather than prepare for the drive thru.
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I think it's gonna turn out well.
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Tanya subscribed to the same idea because she's as prepared as you are.
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Amen, Tanya.
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Amen to that.
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I praise you for your dedication to working on your car.
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I usually at least open it.
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She didn't even get that far.
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She literally goes, Where's the link?
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I can't find it.
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But here's the thing, right?
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The saying holds true.
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You're never more prepared than when you're not.
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It's true.
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It'll be our best episode yet.
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I like to fly by the seat of my pants.
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A hundred percent.
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At least I'm wearing pants this time.
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You've been known to do the Ron Burgundy thing.
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Yeah.
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The Ron Burgundy or the Rambo Commando.
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Didn't Dan rather not wear pants when he was at his desk?
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No, I think that was the Williams guy for NBC who was cheating on his
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wife and his daughter's an actress.
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What was his name?
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I want to say Ted, but that's a singer, isn't it?
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That's Ted Bundy.
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Not Al Bundy.
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Four touchdowns in a single game for Polk High.
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Well, we've got some rich people thangs because it is car week month.
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Car Week continues to get longer.
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There's this whole, I'm Spartacus.
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No, I'm Spartacus situation going on with Car Week.
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You know, who's the first event?
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Even last year when I was there, it was like, we're the first of the first.
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And then you hear that.
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And then I know I'm the first event of Car Week.
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And Car Week's like 15 days long now.
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It's absolutely insane.
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We weren't able to be there in person this year.
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Mad shout out to Ryan Barkey and Danny P, formerly of the steering committee and
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Danny P on cars now part of the roadshow podcast for sending us updates on things
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that were going on during car week.
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Hopefully we'll get there next year.
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But rather than recap every sort of detail, we put together a
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special edition of our magazine.
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So issue number 30 was released during car week.
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And what we did is we tied together everything related.
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Two car week from years past that we had covered all of last year and then guests
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that we sat down with after the fact.
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And so we're going to continue to dogpile onto that.
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So check out issue 30 on our website, but really what everybody wants to talk about.
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It's the cars that sold it.
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Did you guys take a look at the homework that Jalopnik did for us?
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I love it when people do my work for me.
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Yeah.
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They gave a cheat where you can click and look at all the slides without
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actually looking at the pictures of the cars, which is pretty cool.
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Oh, fantastic.
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They have them in order by price.
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If we do this Letterman style, we can work backwards from.
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Lowest to highest.
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I love it.
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Let's do that.
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Yeah.
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They went in the reverse of what we're going to do.
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Okay.
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So we're going to do the Monterey car week, top 16 cars sold at auction.
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You notice that there's two numbers here.
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It's two and then 15 and then three and then 14.
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And they've numbered.
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One as the heading of the thing, because it's the first slide.
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Exactly.
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This is the confusion here.
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Whoever put together this PowerPoint presentation does
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not know what they're doing.
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Have you read anything on Jalopnik?
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I mean, come on, between the typos, some of them, Oxford comma, some
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of them, no Oxford comma, some of them, no punctuation at all.
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It's amazing.
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They can put a listicle together.
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This is brilliant.
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All right.
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Short circuiting this whole process.
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Coming in at number 15, we've got the 2021 Bugatti Chiron Chiron.
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It's the Chiron.
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She, she, she, she, she run sports.
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Noir.
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Somebody else say this.
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I can't see this stupid name.
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What it basically boils down to is a flat black Bugatti Chiron, and it looks
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like the Batmobile and it is awesome.
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And it's sold for a whopping 3.
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36 million.
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Is that cheaper than the car was when it was purchased from Bugatti?
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Because I thought those cars were more than four or five.
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I know the previous Bugatti Veyron was like two plus, and then they had
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all the special, special editions.
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I got to imagine this guy kind of the owner guy or girl, whoever was
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probably took a bath when this car sold.
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That's what I'm thinking too.
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That's really cheap for a Bugatti.
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I mean, 3.
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36 million is not anything to sneeze at, but it's also not a lot of
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money for that type of hyper car.
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But boy, does it look good.
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I mean, Bruce Wayne's probably got.
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Six or seven of these.
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Yep.
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Coming in at number 14, some of these are not gonna be any shock as we get
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kind of further down the list here.
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66 Ferrari 2 75 GTB 60 C alloy, $3.481 million.
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So can somebody translate the name of this car for me?
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Yes.
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William Ross could do that.
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I don't understand what any of it means.
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Either spec with alloy, coach, work, whatever that means.
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. But the Ferrari 275s and the 250 GTO, I mean, those cars are sky high anyway.
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So this is not a surprise.
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But as a Ferrari, let's say two series, 250, 275.
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This is on the bottom end of that.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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Cause there's some of these that sell not just in the seven digits like this
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one did, but then for eight digits.
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So this is the cheap bargain basement.
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Ferrari, if you're looking for a two series or 200 series.
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Car . Yep.
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Next up, another Bugatti Sheron SS or Super Sport 3.497 million.
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I can't tell the difference between the other one other than the paint.
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It looks the same and it's a different color.
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It's gray.
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The other one didn't have the I, I'll call it ground effects package,
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but the arrow, is it just me or does it make it look like a Supra?
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It does look like a very fat supra.
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I will, right.
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I will give it that, yes.
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Especially with those wheels, they're very JDM.
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It doesn't look right.
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And here's our first poll question for Eric and Tanya.
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Would you rather have this or a Supra?
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I don't want anything.
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You know, I've been seeing a lot more Supras on the road lately.
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I don't see very many at all.
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I saw one in yellow.
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I don't like it in yellow.
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I see more Rivians than I do Supras.
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I think the Bugatti would look good in yellow though.
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I've seen one in yellow.
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If anybody who's ever been up and down Rodeo drive, the owners of one
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of the fashion shops there owns a bright yellow and black Bugatti Veyron.
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That's pretty hot.
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Next on the list.
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This is some pretty dry stuff.
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I hope the listeners are enjoying.
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Well, we're going to fast forward here.
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34 Duesenberg, 3.
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7 million, 34 Alfa Romeo, 8C, 4 million.
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And then we start to get into some cool stuff, stuff that
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we're interested in as racers.
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Coming in at number 10, 76 Porsche, 935.
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Yes.
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That's all you have to say in a martini and Rossi livery, 5 million bucks.
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Would you spend 5 million bucks on this?
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I don't know.
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It's pretty tough.
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Cause the cyber truck could.
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Pull one of these and beat this at the same time going through the quarter mile.
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Allegedly the next one at 5 million bucks.
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If you're going to put another race car in your collection, all the
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333, 333 SP, this thing is awesome.
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It is.
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Is this the car that Tanya used to whip everybody's butt in Forza?
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No, that was the Eagle talent.
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Oh, excuse me.
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That was her B class car, but wasn't this her like P class car?
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Might've been.
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Yeah.
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I love these.
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Before the current 499X, these were the last Ferraris in LMP1 at Le
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Mans, that kind of stuff, right?
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So these are really iconic.
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They're really, really cool.
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Given that, I'm surprised it sold for so cheap.
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And you got to watch the video of this car because the sound is unreal.
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And then what kills you is the guys that have these, and then they put like a
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Judd V10 in it, and it's like Really?
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I mean, yeah, the Judd V10 sounds great too, but it's not a Ferrari 12.
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I mean, come on.
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No, that's just a waste of space.
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They couldn't afford to put the Ferrari motor back in it.
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That's why.
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So the next like 10 cars, Ferrari, Ferrari, Ferrari, Ferrari, Ferrari,
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Alfa male, and then Ferrari.
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But we'll talk about the top three in a second.
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So everything up until the top three cars is like 5 million bucks
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and under, they kind of creep up 5.
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1, 5.
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2.
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5.
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3, 5.
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3, and so on.
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There's a Ferrari F50 on here.
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I was just about to say one of my favorite cars, the Ferrari
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F50, the car that Eric hates.
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So awful, but apparently not only is it on this list as a top seller during car week,
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it's also the currently most expensive F50 to ever sell at auction at 5.
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5 million.
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Did it used to belong to share?
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No, that was a 240 60.
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No, no, my bad.
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So breaking some records there for F fifties, Love it or hate it.
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That's good news for F50 owners.
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I would buy the Chiron instead.
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It's a much better car, but that's just me.
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No contest.
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I would buy the F50.
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Next up in fourth place, 59 Ferrari, 250 GTB, long wheelbase,
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California Spider, not to be confused with the Ferris Bueller car.
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Because as soon as somebody hears California Spider, they
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think Ferris Bueller's day off.
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This is the long wheelbase car.
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You know, it's hard to tell the difference.
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William could probably do a whole episode on the difference between
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the short and the long wheels base cars, but if you look at it long
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enough, you can tell it is longer.
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It seems proportionally wrong than what you're used to seeing.
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No surprise, maybe not as sought after at 5.
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6 million as some of the other Ferrari 250 Californias that are out there.
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But rounding out the top three drum roll
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number three, 1955 Ferrari, four 10 sports spider at 12.
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985 million.
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That's a big jump in price.
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Yeah.
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From 5 million to 12, I actually think this car is kind of ugly.
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I mean, I don't think it's ugly, but I think it looks like any other
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race car from that era compared to the two 50 Testa Rosa though.
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Well, yes, of course.
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It's like, ugh.
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I don't know.
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I don't like it.
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I think it's kind of ugly.
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It feels like a precursor to that design.
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Although they were all, to your point, very similar during
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the mil milia period there.
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Yeah.
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When they developed these $13 million, though, not so much.
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So next, number 2, 19 38.
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Alpha male, eight C.
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2,900 B.
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Luo Spider.
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That's a very long name for a very sexy car.
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That looks like A BMW.
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Yeah.
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Stunning and black though.
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My God.
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That is.
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Gorgeous car.
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I mean, that's pebble beach worthy right there.
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I'm just not that big of a fan looks wise of that pre war period.
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Yeah.
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Give me the next car.
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That's my wheelhouse right there.
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So this alpha sold at 14 million.
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That's with an M.
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And then to your point, last but certainly not least, this is Ferris
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Bueller's Ferrari California Spider.
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17 million for a 1960 Ferrari 250 GT short wheelbase California Spider in the
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most gorgeous gray that I have ever seen.
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Yes.
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Delicious.
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Yes, I concur.
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Oh, man.
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I mean, I could just stare at that all day.
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Have you taken a snapshot of just looking at the list?
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Just the list?
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It's 11 Italian cars.
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They sprinkle in a little, uh, french fry.
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And that random Duesenberg.
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Then some schnitzel.
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At any rate.
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Car week, so exciting.
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It's so chaotic.
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We were in touch with so many people, even though we weren't able to be there.
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There's a lot more followup on garage style.
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There's a lot more articles that are coming.
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Don did a good job putting together a car week guide, but one of the things
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I thought was interesting as he's rolling out coverage of car week,
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he's looking for the stories that are a little bit more exclusive that
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people maybe weren't able to get to.
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And one of them in particular.
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Is these videos of the setup for a special invite only private my Bach event and how
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they like bring the cars in using a crane.
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Wow.
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That my box pretty sweet looking.
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Yeah.
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That SUV is killer too.
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At first I was like, is that like a Brabus?
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Like what is that?
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And then Nope.
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That's a, my Bach SUV.
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Oh, that red one with like the equivalent of the Louis Vuitton scheme.
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That's pretty sweet.
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Very, very cool.
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So he told me there's more stuff like that coming in the next couple of weeks
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as he's got people sending him stuff behind the scenes at car week and whatnot.
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So stay tuned for more stuff like that.
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So just a way for rich people to outreach people, other rich people.
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Oh, so you've been to car week.
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Yeah.
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By the way, a shout out to Mercedes and, uh, Tanya, I saw it wasn't an AMG GT.
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It was the precursor to that, I guess the SLS.
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There was a really pretty bright red one in my neighborhood a couple weeks ago.
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Don't go wrong with a Mercedes coupe.
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No, no, you cannot.
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Last year when we were at Car Week at Pebble Beach, just before the Concord kind
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of opens up and the judging starts and all that kind of stuff, there is a showcase.
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As you go down towards the beach and they have highlights for new cars.
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So in years past, you got to see things like the DeLorean re imagined, we got to
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see the ID buzz and some other things, the new Mustang, they were kind of
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revealed at car week at pebble beach.
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Well, BMW decided to do a reveal this year.
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And it wasn't what we expected.
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And I got super excited about yet another station wagon returning
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to the roster that had been shrinking for the last five years.
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Can you believe BMW is going to put out an M5 Touring in the United States?
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That's amazing.
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I don't believe it.
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I mean, I'm in shock.
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Do you think it's because Audi's done so well with the RS6 Avant?
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I guarantee you that's exactly why.
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So get this staggering 717 horsepower.
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In a station wagon.
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First I say, is that necessary?
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And then I say, is that really enough?
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Well, it depends on what you're hauling.
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How many bags of mulch are in the back of your estate?
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Have you seen this thing?
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By the way, I'm not typically a fan of green cars, but I think
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this green is pretty slick.
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It is cool looking.
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The wheels are interesting.
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Everything's interesting about it.
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Now, granted the grills are still kind of wrong, but it is very cool.
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It's very different, but I love station wagons.
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There's something about the long roof.
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It just brings it all together.
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Especially BMW station wagons have never looked bad going way, way back.
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They've always looked really.
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Sort of elegant in a way, but also aggressive at the same time without
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being overly, let's say, AMG and you know, the way the RS6 Avant is where
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it's like they forcibly made it look aggressive and wide like the BMWs have
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always had that sort of like mean but subtle at the same time sort of thing.
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I don't even know how to explain it.
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They're just really cool.
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I believe Eric, we need to put this disclaimer out there.
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The estate cars, not the weird GT kind of hatchback liftback
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things that they came out with.
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I think it introduced with the five series, not those we're talking about
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true, legitimate wagons and estate cars.
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BMW and its own infinite wisdom.
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You know, we've talked about this before.
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They're always making the right moves.
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We won't even talk about what it's going to cost because we already know
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it's going to be a six digit car.
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It's an M car.
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It's a five series.
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It's a station wagon.
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They're going to purposefully make it competitive with the RS6, which we know
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is a hundred plus thousand dollar car.
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But here's the business logic that I don't understand.
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BMW might bring an M3 touring to the US.
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If we buy enough M5 Tourings.
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Does that make sense?
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I'm trying to do rich people math in my head to try and figure this out.
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Let me put it in perspective for you.
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We didn't talk about how much the M5 station wagon is going to cost.
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Venture a guess as to how much the M3 station wagon will be?
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80, 85?
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110.
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Oh, so close, but not quite.
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120, 000 suggested MSRP on the M3 station wagon.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, what was that word you threw out there?
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Adjusted MSRP.
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What are we adjusting for?
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Alleged?
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MSRP alleged.
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Oh, I thought you said adjusted.
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Alleged.
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MSRP.
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. So basically what they're saying is they don't really have any clue,
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but if you look at the picture of this supposed M three touring,
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ooh, this looks even better.
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And I don't mind the big owl beaver buck teeth grills on this
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thing because for whatever reason.
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It actually looks good in this configuration.
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I will say that the more I see cars with these grills, the more I like them.
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And I actually try to tell myself all the time, I'm not going to buy a BMW.
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I'm not going to buy a BMW, but the M fours with these grills, I'm like,
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I could, I could rock with that.
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In the right color.
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And then it's gotta be in the right color.
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This in this blue, it's kind of the right color.
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Yeah, it looks really good.
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And again, Long roof M three and you really go wrong with this equation.
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What is the difference between the M the, well, the difference between the M three
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and the M five back in the day was what?
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Three inches of leg room in the back.
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Yeah.
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So, so that means the M five is going to be one 50, one 60 plus.
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Exactly.
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So this is the turbo six though.
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The M five has a V8 performance hybrid.
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So BMW making a splash during car week with their station wagon of all things.
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I think that's a bold move, really curious to see where it goes in the future.
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So it would be cool to go down the road and get totally blasted
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by one of these station wagons with 700 horsepower or whatever.
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So I think that's, that's really, really cool.
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You know, as much as I see the RS6 all over the interwebs.
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I have yet to see one in person just rolling down the road.
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Like I've seen one at NGP and various places like that.
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I don't think I've ever seen one on the road.
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Hardly ever.
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I think I took a picture of one and posted it on discord once.
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Cause it had some really cool aftermarket wheels.
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And that's the last time I've seen one.
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And that was like, I don't know, like a year ago.
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Yeah, but yeah, every once in a while they pop up, but for the
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people fortunate enough to have those kinds of cars, I'm jealous, man.
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You've got my attention.
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I love that kind of stuff.
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Hot rod station wagon.
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Hell yeah, I'll stick to my hatchbacks for now.
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Cause that's what I can afford.
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Like I said, even though we didn't get to go to car week this year, we
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are looking forward to next year.
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We have some plans in the works and hopefully a couple of special surprises
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and some honors in there as well.
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So we're not going to give any spoilers yet, but you know, making plans and we're
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looking forward to next year, even though it's a year away, some of these big
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events, whether it's this or the Florida man games or LeMans classic or whatever
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it is, you got to start planning early.
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Well, as a quick aside, there's a couple other things that happened
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since the last time we got together for the drive through.
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So you remember we were talking about rocks and revs and all that kind of stuff.
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So we went out to Cleveland and hooked up with William Big Money Ross, who
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a lot of our listeners are familiar with from the What Should I Buy
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series and the Ferrari Marketplace and the Motoring Podcast Network.
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I got a special surprise when I got out there.
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So I'm going to get together with William, got to set up for the
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event, this and that, and he goes, Hey, Pittsburgh vintage Grand Prix.
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You want to go?
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I mean, yeah.
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Okay.
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So what's the plan?
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I'll see you at six o'clock tomorrow morning.
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And so we headed down to good old pit race, took a bunch of videos, talk to
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people in the paddock, walk around, you know, meet some of the drivers and six
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different classes of cars ranging from sub 2000 CCs to the, what they call the ground
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pounders, the late models and trucks.
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I mean, you name it.
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All sorts of really cool stuff.
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Super happy to see a bunch of nine fourteens.
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Cause you know, that's a soft spot for me racing at the track.
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I took a bunch of videos.
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I put together like a compilation summary video for anybody who wants to see
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what the vintage Grand Prix was like.
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This was the beginning of sort of the Pittsburgh car week.
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In a sense, that's why it's loosely related to our Car Week Showcase.
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They did this whole like seven plus day thing where it started at Pit
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Race and then it ended at Shenley Park for another Vintage Grand Prix
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through the streets of Pittsburgh.
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Similar cars, not all the same ones that were running at the VRG SCCA
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event that they had going on at Pit Race, but you know, they have this
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whole festival and it sort of moves throughout the area of Pittsburgh.
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And I thought that was really, really cool.
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I've been talking for a long time about getting into vintage racing
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and buying a vintage race car.
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And it's sort of been not a bucket list thing, but it's a tire
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I've been kicking for a while.
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But going to one of these events, talking with the drivers, getting a
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better understanding of how the classing works and the rules and the different
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series that they can run in with some of these older cars, it was a pretty
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eyeopening experience and not nearly as cost prohibitive as I thought it would
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be compared to, you know, some of the stuff that's going on today, like in SCCA.
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Right.
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I got to do a little bit more homework, but I'm really excited to get a little bit
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more involved in the vintage racing world.
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So it's a cool place to go.
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If you're into those types of cars, how long until spec Miata
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becomes vintage Miata last year?
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Well, I'm late.
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It's already happened.
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Yeah.
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BRG started a campaign and we actually talked to some of the drivers about
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that, how they felt about early Miata showing up and they're like,
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look, they're over 30 years old now.
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So.
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You know, it makes you feel super old that the Miata is that old.
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But on the same token, they're by definition of the rules of vintage racing.
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They're vintage.
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You don't see too many of them.
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There were a couple running around.
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They're under 2000 CC.
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So they run them with those cars.
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They've got to do some balance or performance.
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You know, they got to make the rules work, but they're making.
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Space for especially 1.
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6 liter Miatas.
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They're giving them a home to go race at because they're not competitive and SCCA
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anymore, not unless they're cheating.
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I think it's good, but I think you're going to start to see a lot of other
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cars out there running and mixing it up.
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I was shocked.
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There was a Mark one GTI that came through.
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Flying out of the pits.
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And I was like, Whoa, pump the brakes.
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What?
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And there was other stuff like that where you're like, I guess that is vintage now.
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Okay.
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You know, it's not just Austin Healy's and MGs and stuff like that.
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No, no.
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Yeah.
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Well, things that we think are vintage are things that our parents
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were like, Oh, those are still cool.
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Those are things that people, so we're, we're all technically vintage racers.
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I think we're vintage ourselves at this point.
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Yeah, that's it.
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We're, we're vintage.
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Comma racers by the internet youth standard.
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We are vintage.
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We might be antique.
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Oh my God.
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You know, we should be dead by now.
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Hey, in the old days, you weren't expected to live till 40.
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You know what I mean?
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Yep.
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I know.
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Thank God we made it past that.
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Okay.
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What's next.
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All right.
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So rocks and revs.
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It was the inaugural automotive festival there in Cleveland in partnership with
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summer fest there in Fairview park.
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Really interesting setup.
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The venue itself.
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I mean, it was like an ocean of asphalt.
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You park 200 cars for an event and it doesn't look full at all because
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you had space for double that.
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Williams got good plans for next year and for growth and to involve more people.
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A lot of folks were coming up and talking to me, Hey, I'm going to
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tell my club and have them come out.
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And we had good representation from a Shelby Cobra club show up, a bunch of
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other groups, so really dynamic group of cars, huge selection of imports.
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Felt like a Honda VW meet a couple of guys with Mark fours.
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We went around and talked to a whole bunch of people.
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So it was interesting for a first time, taking over a legacy event,
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rebranding it, merging it with another one, you know, all the logistics that
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he had to go through, not bad at all.
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I wish William continued success.
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And if you're in that tri state area or close to Cleveland, I would definitely
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put it on your calendar for next year.
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But most importantly, I didn't think I would come across one of these and maybe
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you could chalk it up to rich people.
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Thanks.
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As we close out our segment here, but I picked up a little something
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for myself while I was in Ohio.
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Check it out.
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We'll show it till here.
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It's the Hot Wheels Audi Quattro IMSA GTO mega blocks set with
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the matching die cast car.
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I saw four of those at Target.
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The other day, you didn't have to get it at rocks and
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revs, but I'm glad you got it.
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Pat yourself on the back.
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Good job, buddy.
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That's what I appreciate about you down where you're at.
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There's cooler stuff than up in where I am, where there's nothing.
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So, you know, that's true.
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But I will say I did have a little table set up a thing for charity and
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all that to donate money to aluminum cans for bird children and for
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the animal sanctuary and all that.
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But I sold off a bunch of my hot wheels that I have like a big bin of
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what I call the car show collection.
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And so I was like, well, sell off the small ones to buy the bigger ones.
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Sounds like playing to me.
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That's a one for one trade.
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Yep.
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Yes, sir.
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And that's going on the Christmas shopping list.
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And you know, what's funny is Hot Wheels owns mega blocks.
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That's why obviously there's no license with like Lego.
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I was confused by that.
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I was like, who is this Lego knockoff kind of thing?
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So Mattel, the parent company owns all that, right?
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It's pretty big.
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But they're all in cahoots together.
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What's funny is I don't know why they chose this maybe because the
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car's kind of blocky in shape.
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So it was easy for them to do, but there's only one other one in this
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size, which it's about a 10 inch car.
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So think like one 18th scale model, but it's a Corvette stingray, like a C2.
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Everything else they have is more like the speed.
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Champion size, like six, seven inches, but nothing this large.
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Maybe there's more coming in the future.
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Maybe it's a licensing thing.
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I figured they would have all that because of hot wheels and matchbox and
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all the other brands that they own.
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Really curious to see what they do with the mega blocks.
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I've never built anything mega blocks.
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before.
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So fit and finish will be mostly what I'm critiquing.
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Maybe if they sell enough M5 Tourings, they'll bring the M3.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There you go.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's the moral of the story.
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So I've got a question for you because I know you, I know how you operate.
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Did you buy two so you can put one together and leave one in the box?
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So they had four on the shelf.
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And did you bring four home?
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Three remained when I left.
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I was tempted to buy two though.
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I really disappointed, disappointed because I know you, I know you're
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sitting there and it's like, well, I can get two of them and I can
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leave one as like a collector.
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If I sell it in the future, then I make money on it.
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So it's not really costing me anything.
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It wasn't cheap.
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I know.
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I've seen them at target.
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I've seen the price.
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It's 80 bucks.
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I mean, I'm not going to lie.
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It's rich people things, right?
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It's like, you're going to drop 80 bucks on a Lego set.
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It better be damn good.
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We'll see how it turns out for me.
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It's an iconic car.
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It's part of my childhood.
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One of those things that I was like, I have to have it.
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You know what I mean?
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So we'll see how it goes.
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Good on you.
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I am going to take it out of the box eventually.
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I don't know.
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We'll see.
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Because you want to play with it because you're two years old.
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Of course.
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Well, that said we're back to our regularly scheduled ranting and raving.
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So we need to talk about Porsche, Audi and Volkswagen news.
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So what a great lead in there.
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Actually have news for them now.
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That's cool.
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They've lost their way and they're so lost that they're going to
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expand their presence in Australia.
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Yeah.
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With eight new models, while everyone else has moved out.
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Are they going to start selling utes?
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The list of cars is not that interesting, other than the pickup trucks that we never
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get, like the Amarok and all that stuff.
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But it's the ID4 the Golf and Tiguan.
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It's like, okay, great.
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Wonderful.
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It is a little confusing that there's two vans.
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So we've got the ID Buzz and then there's the Multivan.
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Okay.
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And then the Transporter.
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Stuff that we don't get here in the States.
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Great.
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You're taking your regular lineup of cars to Australia.
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Yeah.
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Where's the mark for ute pickup?
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No, the Jetta pickup or whatever.
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That Daniel wants to build.
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Where's one of those that would sell like hotcakes.
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Where's the ID buzz.
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Ute.
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Everything should be a Ute.
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Yeah.
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A hundred percent.
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The two Utes.
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Have you seen the.
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Old Jeep Cherokee Ute that's down the road.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's like sitting back in the woods.
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You got to take your trailer out there and go dig it out.
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That's a barn find my friend.
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No, it runs.
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He moved it.
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Now you can't tell because he backed it into the woods.
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Did you see how he had it parked though?
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He had the wheels position.
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Like he was taking Facebook marketplace pictures of it.
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I was like.
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What is happening?
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That's a photo shoot parking job there with the wheels.
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Talked like that.
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So it was a Jeep Wrangler.
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You that kid's pretty expensive.
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No, it's cheap.
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Cherokee.
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Oh, Cherokee.
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You'd Oh, like an old square.
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Really?
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Yeah, that is.
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So instead of buying a Comanche, he just decided to make one.
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He just chopped like the back section of glass out basically.
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Cause it's so short.
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International scout style.
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Yeah.
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It's it's weird, but it definitely catches your eye because
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you're like, what is that?
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So going back to Volkswagen and trying to sell cars in Australia, I have
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no need for one because we already bought a minivan, but I actually
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really, really liked the ID buzz.
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So do I.
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Okay.
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Tanya got to see it in Vegas.
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My wife likes it.
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I think we all are kind of enamored with it.
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Until they just recently released the price tag.
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Do you guys know how much this thing is gonna cost?
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Why don't you guess?
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Let's play the game.
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I already know the price, so I can't.
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Before opening the page, I thought like 40, 45.
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Somewhere around the same as the ID4.
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Uh huh, yeah.
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Our listeners will not be surprised if they go back and listen to last month's
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50, 000 millennial gray challenge.
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This doesn't even clock in at 50 grand.
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I wish even with the tax credit, it's going to be high fifties with
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destination charges and everything else.
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Suggested MSRP of 62, 000.
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Without the cool colors.
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Yeah.
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They're using the Tesla pricing model.
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Okay, let's be real.
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Minivans are not cool anymore.
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You and I both have them, but we bought them for practicality purposes
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and for, you know, a million reasons.
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And we're like, vans make sense.
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Vans are big station wagons, big hatchbacks, blah, blah, blah.
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And you can put a lot of shit in them.
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It depends on how you use it.
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SUVs can be more functional.
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You know, we can make those arguments all day long, but either way, you
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can buy a pretty well equipped SUV or minivan for less than 50, 000.
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We already know this we've studied, but 62, 000 for a Volkswagen.
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That better be an Arteon or a Phaeton or something.
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I'm like, what?
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There's only 10 grand more than the next cheapest minivan.
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Then what, an Odyssey?
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Because the Odyssey's got all these whiz bang built in vacuum cleaners
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and all sorts of crazy stuff.
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The Volkswagen doesn't have any of that.
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But the Honda Odyssey is more expensive than that.
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The Honda Odyssey is actually like 42, 000, but The 2025
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Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid is 51.
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Since when?
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According to MSRP.
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Does that include the cost of the additional transmissions?
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Hey, I got an update on that.
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You joke.
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You joke.
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Do you have it back yet?
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We never got, uh, we never got any closure on it.
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We're, we're on like transmission number four.
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It's all good.
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So, but get this.
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They sent us a letter now, because I guess they've had so
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many problems with those hybrids.
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They have extended the warranty on the hybrid transmission system for life.
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It will cost us 0 in a year and a half when we take it back in
30:33
to get our fifth transmission.
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So it'll be all good.
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0.
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But how much time?
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How much money is it going to cost you to buy a replacement car
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to use while that's in the shop?
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That is always the question.
30:44
We were a little shaken in our boots the last time going like, is this it?
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Are we done?
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How much is this going to cost?
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We've been very fortunate.
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You know, we bought the max care from Chrysler when we bought it new.
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And so we haven't had to pay anything cause it's always been under warranty.
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But in Stellantis's defense to avoid a class action lawsuit, whatever, they just
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flat out did the same thing they did with the Jeeps during diesel gate and said,
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we're just going to extend the warranty.
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Here you go.
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Done.
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We'll take care of it.
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But at this rate, even though we have the superseded newer transmission and all this
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kind of stuff, it already failed once.
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So we're like, all right, we'll see how this goes.
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I thought for sure you were going to say they sent you a letter
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stating that they were going to buy it back because that seems to
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happen to all the cars that you buy.
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There's a buyback.
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That is 100 percent true.
31:31
I'm waiting for that shoe to fall.
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So if you had the report, would you buy another minivan?
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You know, we've talked about that.
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It would either probably be an SUV or a minivan.
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I would maybe lean a little bit more into the Jeep camp.
31:43
Talked about getting another diesel Jeep, something 4x4 because
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of where we live, and when it does snow, it snows pretty bad.
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Whoa, bad.
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The 4XE is appealing because it's hybrid and you get the all wheel
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drive, but the problem is the Jeep is really expensive, but in comparison
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to what a new Pacifica would cost.
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And there you go, new Pacifica for 10 grand more, would you get the ID Buzz?
32:06
The problem I think is the ID Buzz.
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Needs to be a hybrid and not full electric.
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And then we would make the jump.
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I don't think my wife is ready for full electric.
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She said that before she loves the fact that when she runs out of power, she can
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just rely on the petrol or, you know, it's doing its regenerative thing or
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whatever, from a fuel economy standpoint, she's doing way better than with any
32:27
diesel we ever had, because she's getting mixed driving 50 miles to the gallon.
32:32
I mean, we've talked about this before.
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So the Pacific is really hard to replace.
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From an economic standpoint, the problem is the transmission keeps failing.
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Knock on wood, the Jeep has been super reliable and it probably
32:43
will be for a very, very long time.
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My money sort of goes in that direction.
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And as the kids get older, the sliding doors aren't nearly as necessary,
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but they are super convenient.
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Like the sliding doors is like game changing.
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That's kind of where we're at.
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We bought the van because the kids are so young, knowing.
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That and about five years or so, we're going to upgrade to like a Tahoe or
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something else, but you still cannot beat the cargo capacity of the van.
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I mean, the van has saved our butts so many times.
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She's like random trip to Ikea and you're like, well, it's going to fit.
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It might not make it home, but it's going to fit.
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It's going to fit.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So Volkswagen is out of their minds.
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62, 000 for an electric van is just way, way too much.
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And you're only getting 300 miles of range.
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62, 000 and you can only go 300 miles.
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That makes for a really, really long road trip and experience if
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that's what you're using it for.
33:36
On the other side of the Volkswagen camp and the horsepower war
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portfolio that they have, right?
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Because Bugatti, Audi, Porsche, all the hypercars that they build.
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I'm sitting here thinking like, are we building ID buzzes to
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offset the new Lamborghinis?
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Is that what this is all about?
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Because the new, I can't even pronounce, I didn't know there were this many different
33:58
variants of bulls because apparently every Lamborghini is named after a bull
34:02
or a bullfighter or something like that.
34:04
But the Temerario, 907 horsepower.
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Who's going to drive that?
34:09
Who's going to drive the 717 horsepower BMW wagon?
34:14
Me and Brad raised our hands.
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We're going to do that.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Sign me up.
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I'm good with 700.
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900 is a bit much.
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I think Eric's wrong.
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I'm in the opposite camp.
34:23
I think the more power, the better.
34:25
Oh, well then you're right in line for a Z06 then.
34:28
Did you hear about that?
34:28
Oh, I have not heard about it yet.
34:30
Well, that's just it.
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Is this Lambo in response to the Z06?
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Because Hellcat's at 700 and Mustang's at 700.
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The demons at eight something.
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And yeah.
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Now we're at 900.
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By the way, the Z06 makes a thousand horsepower.
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I was not prepared for that.
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Neither are the people with the new balance shoes that are going to buy them.
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Yeah.
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How many you're going to run into the wall coming out of the pits in a track day?
34:56
How many Hellcats were destroyed coming off the dealership lot?
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Oh my god, so many hulk heads.
35:01
This Lamborghini looks amazing in this green.
35:04
Another green car that I'm like all about.
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Green is back!
35:07
But like good greens, not some like crappy greens that are Is
35:12
it better than the Countach?
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Uh, no.
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To me, no.
35:15
I'm all in on the Coontosh.
35:17
The Coontosh has replaced the Diablo as my favorite Lamborghini.
35:21
Which, by the way, I saw a Diablo today on the road.
35:23
It was a blast from the past, and I was very happy to see one.
35:26
But the new Coontosh, for me, is peak Lamborghini.
35:29
This one just reminds me too much of every Huracan and whatever that came before it.
35:34
Yeah, it's just a continuation of that evolution.
35:36
It's pretty though.
35:37
So there lies the problem with the VAG family taking over Lamborghini.
35:43
When Lamborghini was Lamborghini, they would be like, all right, scrap it.
35:48
Let's come up with something totally ridiculous.
35:50
If you look at every Lamborghini up until VW group took over,
35:55
they were just outlandish.
35:56
They were garish.
35:57
They were bold, daring stream colors, like insane cars.
36:02
A lot of them are terrible to drive, but now Lamborghini has taken on this.
36:06
911 model where we just continue to make it bigger, wider, more horsepower,
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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
36:13
And we're going through this evolutionary process.
36:15
And so give it another name, it goes all the way back to like the Gallardo, right?
36:19
I mean, it's like, have they really changed at all in the last 15 years plus?
36:24
What was the last Lamborghini not vague influenced?
36:29
Was it the mercy logo?
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Yeah, because Chrysler bought Lamborghini during the Diablo period.
36:36
So, you know, Ferruccio sold off the company.
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I forget to who in between Chrysler and then Chrysler sold it off.
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It's changed hands a couple of times, but yeah, I think.
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I think the Murcielago might be, I know there was that prototype in there,
36:49
the Kala that Italdesign did, that's sort of a bridge between the Diablo
36:54
and the Murcielago if you look at it.
36:56
Yeah.
36:56
But yeah, ever since VW took over, to me, they're all the same except
36:59
for the Countach because that's just a tribute car at the end of the day.
37:03
Yeah.
37:03
And the Murcielago is a very, very pretty car too.
37:06
I mean, the Aventador was a pretty car.
37:08
No, I didn't like the angles.
37:09
I like the Murcielagos, just kind of very Diablo esque.
37:13
Yeah.
37:14
Updated Diablo styling.
37:15
Well, you know what has updated styling?
37:18
And they say that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
37:21
I must be apparently due for an eye exam because I don't get it.
37:26
The new A6 and S6 sportback e trons.
37:31
And they're revealed, as it says here, with aerodynamics and tech as top of mind.
37:37
You know what it looks like to me?
37:39
It looks like a clog, or like those really big chunky shoes
37:42
that women wear sometimes.
37:45
It looks like a big chunky shoe.
37:48
Tell me I'm wrong!
37:49
Tell me I'm wrong.
37:50
It's a giant clunky shoe with like a three inch rubber sole.
37:55
From the back, it looks like an A3 that gained 2, 000 pounds.
37:59
Yes.
38:00
He really let himself go.
38:04
I've read this before.
38:05
Rich people are to blame for all of these really muted, boring
38:10
primer colors that we have now.
38:12
There is no way to make this shade of beige look good.
38:17
Ever.
38:18
On any car.
38:19
Even a 911 would look terrible in this color.
38:21
I disagree.
38:22
I actually kind of like it on this car.
38:24
Where is it beige?
38:25
Beige?
38:26
It's like a cream.
38:27
It's like clamshell.
38:28
It's ugly.
38:29
Oh my god.
38:29
The whole thing is hideous.
38:31
It's portabella.
38:32
What are yeah, it's portabella.
38:34
This is the vegan Audi, okay?
38:36
It's a portabella chunky shoe.
38:38
Look at the mirrors.
38:40
That's what I want you to focus in on.
38:42
Whoa, are they cameras?
38:43
They're just cameras.
38:44
What is it that Tanya says?
38:45
Hot garbage.
38:49
I don't like the interior either.
38:50
There's nothing about this that I like.
38:52
That carpeted look on the seats.
38:55
It reminds me of like office carpeting from the 90s.
38:58
There's carpet on the dash too.
39:00
The light up Audi rings on the back are kind of cool.
39:03
That is kind of cool.
39:04
No, they're not.
39:04
They look so cool.
39:05
Oh God, this thing is awful.
39:10
I'm glad they brought back sliding accordion style slider
39:14
thing there in the center console that's from like a 1984 quantum.
39:18
That looks fantastic.
39:19
This interior is tweed.
39:21
I bet this interior is better in person than how it's designed.
39:25
being represented in this photo.
39:27
And this is probably microfiber, but it's being photographed horribly.
39:30
The only thing that would be worse is corduroy.
39:32
The rendering doesn't look right.
39:33
And maybe it's the optics of the fish eye that they use.
39:37
The door handles on the inside below the LCD screens that are the mirrors.
39:42
They finally moved the handle that when the window opened,
39:45
the water doesn't go right.
39:48
No, because the water goes on top of the screen that is your
39:50
mirror that is now inside the car.
39:52
No, that looks like it's up in the dash, like where your air vent would be.
39:55
This looks so Knight Rider.
39:57
So here's our polling question number two for Eric and Tanya,
40:01
those listening at home.
40:02
The answer's no.
40:02
This or the Tesla Model Y?
40:05
Can I walk instead?
40:09
You're going to be walking anyway with your Pacifica.
40:11
Okay, I thought about this next one long and hard.
40:15
The title just kills me.
40:17
I think this is Volkswagen's only way back from the brink of extinction.
40:22
So it reads, the Mark 8 GTI, that's what they're referring to, the Mark 8 might
40:27
be around until 2035 with a gas engine.
40:32
How does that help them from extinction?
40:34
They've gone EV, EV, EV, EV, EV.
40:36
Why would they keep A mark for 16 years.
40:39
This is a play for them to be able to come back from their full EV
40:43
model, because otherwise nobody's going to buy Volkswagen's anymore.
40:46
So when they totally go off the edge and they decide to scrap the entire ID
40:50
dot, whatever lineup, they can always.
40:52
fall back on the GTI.
40:54
It's been around forever.
40:55
And this one will literally have been around forever.
40:57
I'm just going to like a dodge dart, leave like three of them
41:00
here and there at dealerships and be like, we're still selling them.
41:03
Why would they not redesign it?
41:05
Why would they not just release the Mark 9?
41:07
Again, I've been putting a lot of useless thought behind this particular
41:11
article, trying to even gain a clue as to what VW might be thinking.
41:16
Also, why in VW's infinite.
41:20
Styling wisdom.
41:21
Did they put a GTI badge under the mirror?
41:23
It looks terrible.
41:24
That looks like somebody had a GTI badge in their parts bin and they
41:28
walked up and just slapped it onto the side of somebody's car for fun.
41:32
It's like those letters you buy at advanced auto to put on
41:34
the back of your Yeah, it's the letters you get at Home Depot.
41:37
Like when you're trying to.
41:39
Turbo S with the big for sale sign S.
41:42
I mean, it could be worse.
41:43
It could be a Nissan GTR badge.
41:45
People put those on everything too.
41:47
After straining my mind grapes on this for a while, here's the
41:50
only thing I could come up with.
41:52
Okay.
41:52
There are bans in certain parts of the world against diesel and new
41:58
petrol cars and things like that.
42:00
If Volkswagen does the Microsoft thing or the Apple thing, I guess,
42:04
and says, this is the last operating system you'll ever need liars.
42:08
The GTI, if they keep on the mark eight platform and to your point, Tanya,
42:12
they keep restyling it just a little bit, but the chassis stays the same.
42:16
And the power plant basically stays the same.
42:18
Is it really a new car when you haven't changed?
42:22
Let's say the software version, it's still GTI version eight.
42:26
So it's not a new car.
42:28
It's an old car that they just continue to sell forever.
42:31
So in my mind, they can get around these bans that have been maybe
42:35
prematurely activated, where we've heard things like 2025, 2027, 2029, 2035.
42:42
There's all these numbers floating around.
42:44
So this way, Volkswagen says, all right, Mark 8 is the last GTI you'll
42:47
ever need, and that we'll ever build.
42:49
It's not a new car anymore.
42:50
So I think this is a loophole that they're looking to execute on.
42:54
I have no idea what they're doing, nor do I care.
42:57
I'm starting to go down the rabbit hole like Eric did.
43:00
It mentions in the article that the 74 Mark I was manufactured for 34
43:05
years with the South African City Golf production ending in 2009.
43:10
That is true.
43:11
Is this going to be like the original Beetle was manufactured
43:15
for what, 50 years because they still made them in Mexico and stuff?
43:19
They made them in Mexico until 2003.
43:21
Yeah.
43:21
So are they going to.
43:23
Sell the Mark 8 alongside like a Mark 9 or a Mark 10 or whatever in the future.
43:29
Well, they'll sell it alongside the e golf, whatever it'll be called, right?
43:32
Because they can't make a new petrol powered golf if the rules
43:37
are upheld the way they're written.
43:39
Got it.
43:40
Okay.
43:40
Yeah.
43:40
So that's my conspiracy theory, tinfoil hat or otherwise.
43:44
I think they're going to do a 9 11 strategy and go like the Lamborghini.
43:49
And it's certainly not a new car.
43:50
It's going to be the Mark 8.
43:51
1, the Mark 8.
43:52
2, the Mark 8.
43:54
4.
43:54
Porsche already started doing that.
43:56
How can you have a Mark 8 and a Mark 9?
43:58
The Mark 8 petrol.
44:00
Alongside the Mark 9 electric vault.
44:03
How can you have a Mustang and a Mustang Mach E?
44:05
What Mustang Mach E?
44:07
That's not a Mustang.
44:07
Because up to this point, all Marks have been petrol or diesel.
44:12
And so if the 9 is now electric, what if they do decide to make
44:15
another petrol after the 8?
44:17
They're just going to skip and go 10?
44:18
Well, they've already said 8.
44:19
5.
44:20
It's going to be like BMW.
44:21
The odd numbers are the four doors and the even numbers are the two
44:25
doors, but sometimes four doors don't even start in Volkswagen terms.
44:29
The odd numbers are going to be the electrics.
44:32
And then the even numbers are going to be the petrols.
44:34
But did you guys see this commercial that was filmed in our backyard of
44:38
at all places, summit point raceway, good old Tanner, Tanner versus Tanner.
44:43
Like I didn't understand this commercial on multiple levels.
44:46
I think it was a really nice videography.
44:49
It was well edited.
44:50
Yes, that was nice.
44:51
They put a GTI quote head to head with an R.
44:55
I don't understand.
44:57
I don't know.
44:58
You go through the lab.
44:59
They're kind of like fighting each other.
45:00
Okay, sure.
45:01
Like one's ahead.
45:02
The other's ahead.
45:03
He literally comes out of nine.
45:05
And he's making the motions like he's rowing a goddamn boat up the hill in
45:10
the R like I got to row this mother effer to even get close to the GTI.
45:15
And then he finishes in the R have a car length ahead of the GTI.
45:18
It's like, what advertising is this?
45:20
So you go spend how much more than R to have the same, the same performance
45:26
of the GTI, go spend 20, 30 grand more to have barely a faster car.
45:31
This is like the opposite of what Porsche would have done.
45:33
Didn't they purposefully make the Cayman worse so it wouldn't
45:38
compete with the 911 or something?
45:39
Because they didn't want to take away sales from the 911.
45:41
If Porsche had made this commercial.
45:43
It would have lapped itself.
45:44
They would have had the Paisley 917 and the 918 Carrera and the this and
45:51
that, and then suddenly a take hand would have appeared by a UFO and
45:55
gone into warp speed and destroyed everything in like a nuclear inferno.
46:00
Volkswagen on the other hand is like.
46:02
Hey, our shitbox that costs 20, 000 less than our flagship is
46:07
just as fast as our flagship.
46:09
Don't you want to buy our flagship?
46:11
And this is what I've been saying about the Golf, which
46:13
is a problem with the Golf.
46:15
Everybody goes, Ooh, ah, go far, errr.
46:18
Dude, it weighs 600 pounds more than the front wheel drive, and you're carrying
46:22
around a bunch of ballast for nothing.
46:24
So yeah, they threw 50 more horsepower at it, but at the end of the day, the
46:28
power to weight ratio is the same.
46:30
So you're still driving a shitbox.
46:31
But you have more stuff that you're lugging around and you have less
46:35
trunk space and more problems and more maintenance and everything
46:38
that goes along with that.
46:39
So it's sort of like, like if I had to choose between the two,
46:43
I'd probably just buy the regular GTI because it came with a manual.
46:47
They showed that when I was like, all right, you've won me over there
46:50
and I'm going to save 20 grand by the time it's all said and done.
46:53
So.
46:53
If I look at it as not an enthusiast and not a critic, ooh, that's an exciting
46:58
commercial and isn't that amazing that they filmed it at Summit Point.
47:01
I'm proud of them for all of those things.
47:03
But as an enthusiast, I look at it and go, as I talked about on
47:06
Discord, it doesn't make sense.
47:08
This is a stupid commercial.
47:09
It doesn't sell me, not like if you go back and look at the original.
47:13
R 32 commercials they did where they were at the VW test track and they're
47:18
up on the bank and they're doing, you know, 150 plus mile an hour and like
47:22
all this stuff and it was like, holy cow, VW, they can do that kind of speed.
47:26
This is just like, okay.
47:28
And does anybody even remember Tanner Faust other than from the
47:31
flop that was top gear America?
47:33
I mean, global rally cross has been gone for like a decade now.
47:37
He's probably still contractually obligated to do things for Volkswagen.
47:40
I have a feeling.
47:40
Yes, it was absolutely good for some point.
47:43
They're going to sell negative 10 GTIs because of that.
47:47
Meanwhile, in Lower Saxony, BMW is back on the docket.
47:51
This time with some recalls.
47:53
So we talked in the past, what, 270, 000 Volkswagens recalled, you know,
47:58
umpteen million Teslas have been recalled, all this kind of stuff.
48:02
Well, BMW is adding their name to the list.
48:04
720, 000 vehicles recalled because of a fire risk that starts.
48:10
With a short circuit and a water pump.
48:12
Put itself out.
48:13
This is the kind of shit that drives me nuts about BMW.
48:16
You know they've got water cooled alternators.
48:19
And like other crazy concoctions that they've come up with on
48:23
these cars over the years.
48:24
It is not necessary and it is not advised.
48:28
To mix electronics and water.
48:30
I'm just going to flat out say that as a public service announcement.
48:33
Well, where exactly is the fire?
48:36
Where's the water pump located on the BMW?
48:38
Well, if it's anything like my E36, it was right in the front, like
48:42
right behind this big ass pulley.
48:43
So I guess basically there's a water pump failure and the water
48:47
must go like everywhere and hit some sort of crucial system.
48:49
Cause here it says the fix is very straightforward.
48:52
BMW will inspect the water pump and the problematic plug and replace it.
48:56
If there's any damage found and a shield will be installed to
48:59
protect the plug from errant.
49:01
Fluids again, water and electricity don't mix.
49:04
It affects a wide range of cars from like 2012 through 2018.
49:10
It looks like on this list, you're talking X one Z fours, five series,
49:14
three series, X five, two series, three series GTs that we know Brad doesn't
49:18
like X threes, X fours, four series.
49:19
The list goes on and on and on.
49:21
And it's just like, that's a lot of cars.
49:22
I mean, 720, 000 cars is nothing to sneeze at.
49:25
So.
49:25
If you own one of these BMWs and they're willing to replace this for
49:29
free, just go get it done before you end up with a smoldering pile of metal.
49:34
And if you have had your car melt to the ground and didn't know why, maybe
49:38
it's time for a class action lawsuit.
49:40
Moving on.
49:41
Now it's time for some Stellantis news.
49:44
Going back to Australia, I guess this month it was pretty
49:46
slow, so we're going down under.
49:48
Did you guys know that Citroën has been selling cars in Australia since 1923?
49:53
No, but it looks like Volkswagen is gonna slide in quite nicely right into
49:57
Australia's DMs once Citroën pulls out.
50:00
That's right, Citroën is leaving Australia after a hundred years of sales.
50:05
Did you say a hundred years of sales or fails?
50:07
Well, you know, fails is true because they said reportedly Ferrari
50:12
outsold them last year in Australia.
50:14
And you know, that's not a lot of cars.
50:16
So the bigger question is if a Citroen leaves Australia and no one's there
50:20
to see it, does it make a noise?
50:21
Yeah.
50:22
Does anybody care?
50:24
But there's some sad news for Tanya.
50:26
Actually, more like sad panda news for Tanya.
50:29
What's happening to the Fiat Panda?
50:31
There's a silver lining, because although the 4th gen Fiat Panda is going to go
50:36
away after over a decade of sales in the UK, it's making room for the Grand Panda.
50:41
The Grand Panda.
50:43
I want this, but it's never going to come here.
50:46
Hybrid or electric powertrain.
50:48
That is awesome.
50:49
Super cool.
50:50
That is pretty sweet.
50:51
Tanya, you just need to go buy a Jeep Renegade.
50:54
It basically looks like a Renegade.
50:55
And it says Grand, but apparently it's smaller, shorter wheelbase than the 500X.
51:00
So it's not a very big car.
51:01
Really?
51:02
It's a Granda.
51:03
10 inches smaller.
51:04
That's a significant.
51:05
So maybe bigger than a Gen 4, but I really like the way they did the grill
51:12
and the headlights and everything.
51:13
I think that looks really cool.
51:15
The panda that's embossed into the side skirt, I take it or leave it.
51:21
It makes it rugged.
51:22
It also looks like a handle.
51:24
This is pretty cool though.
51:25
I would use this as a runabout.
51:26
I would buy one and like just under 22 pounds, that's Under 30 USD.
51:31
That's not bad.
51:31
And it's a hatchback.
51:32
It's all the things.
51:33
Again, pandas are known for being rugged.
51:35
Get it in a hybrid, so you're not relying on only EV.
51:38
Those wheels, though.
51:39
Those wheels are killing me.
51:41
They're so 80s.
51:42
Beat Ritmo had wheels like this.
51:45
Like, they're bizarre, but you can't stop looking at them.
51:48
They don't show it parked.
51:50
So you can't really see what the wheels look like.
51:52
When's the grand panda Abarth coming out?
51:56
The grand Abarth.
51:57
Yeah, I don't know.
51:58
This is supposed to come out next year and it won't come here.
52:00
Of course.
52:01
Why would they?
52:03
Maybe it will.
52:03
And they'll call it the Dodge Nitro.
52:05
Cause it does look like that from the back.
52:07
A little bit.
52:07
It'll be, it won't be the dart.
52:09
What else did Dodge just come out with?
52:10
Yeah, but that flat back and the Fiat there, there's like a lot of like original
52:15
Panda, like it's exuding it, but then it's like, oh, I'm new and I'm modern.
52:19
But, oh, you can tell that I'm trying to recall the old days.
52:23
So our listeners want to know why hasn't Tanya imported a Fiat Panda yet?
52:28
I don't have a good answer.
52:29
They're so cheap.
52:30
Well, then I think we found our next segment updates on
52:34
Tanya importing a Fiat Panda.
52:36
You might get a cyber check first.
52:37
This episode's update, no update.
52:40
I don't know how to do it.
52:41
So.
52:42
Oh, but there are ways to do it.
52:44
It's not difficult.
52:45
You just find one of those companies that does the importing.
52:47
One of those guys.
52:50
You talked to that guy who imported the Volvo from, uh, GTM.
52:53
Yeah, that's right.
52:54
Season one of our show, we had a guy import a Volvo from Sweden.
52:57
That's right.
52:58
I'll go see if the one in Texas is for sale.
52:59
One of those guys that imported one.
53:01
It's gotta be a four by four Sisley though.
53:02
You gotta have the Sisley like James May had on Top Gear.
53:05
Well, I mean, if you're gonna import one, you gotta get top of the line.
53:09
Top speed, 45 miles an hour.
53:11
Yeah.
53:12
Well, anyway, moving on with a little bit more domestic news, shying
53:15
away from Styliantis yet again.
53:18
I think Big Brother is listening, because as soon as we stopped talking about the
53:21
Maverick and the Ranger, Super Duty, and all that stuff last month, I get another
53:24
thing coming flying across my desk.
53:26
Get this!
53:27
The Maverick Lobo Edition.
53:29
And I'm like, okay, what?
53:31
Now, apparently this truck is down to clown, according to car and driver.
53:37
Like who writes these articles?
53:38
Like seriously, what's the point of it?
53:40
It's got wheels that look like they came off of kit.
53:43
Other than that, it's got stitched leather seats.
53:45
I mean, it's a Maverick.
53:46
I mean, it's lowered, low boy, lowered.
53:49
Yeah, whatever.
53:49
They dropped it half an inch in the front and 1.
53:52
1 inches in the rear.
53:53
Woo.
53:54
Like that's like a street kit on a GTI.
53:57
Like.
53:57
Come on, really?
53:58
Why in the picture does it look like it's lowered more in the front?
54:02
I don't know.
54:03
And they say it comes with brakes from the Focus ST, which I'm scratching
54:08
my head going, Focus ST is a really small car in comparison to this truck.
54:13
And it has the twin clutch from the Bronco Sport.
54:16
Okay, great.
54:16
And the power is unchanged.
54:19
You're going to spend more.
54:20
You're gonna spend 37, 000 for the Lobo.
54:23
For a 238 horsepower, two liter EcoBoost four cylinder.
54:27
Okay, wait, wait, wait.
54:28
Where does it say EcoBoost?
54:29
I've been trying to find that.
54:30
You know it's the EcoBoost.
54:31
They only make one four cylinder.
54:33
Do they?
54:34
I don't know.
54:35
Can you imagine this truck with like the four cylinder
54:38
from the Focus back in the day?
54:41
You'd want to get out and light it on fire.
54:43
It'd be horrible.
54:44
That's the type of stuff I've come to expect from Ford.
54:47
So that's why I was looking.
54:48
Terrible.
54:49
Because nowhere in the article does it say EcoBoost, which I would have
54:53
thought would have been everywhere.
54:54
Every time they mentioned the motor, it would have been EcoBoost.
54:57
There's another article that says turbocharged four cylinder.
54:59
See, there you go.
55:00
Okay, so that is the EcoBoost then.
55:02
238 is pretty weak even for the EcoBoost too, because the power pack on the Mustang
55:06
was like 278 or something like that.
55:09
Apparently the setup has been de-tuned for 2025.
55:12
It's going down.
55:14
They took away horsepower.
55:15
You know what this is?
55:17
This is the Chevy S 10 Extreme from the nineties.
55:21
Yes.
55:21
With the same 4.3 liter, but a body kit and lowered.
55:25
Yep.
55:25
And just an, it is an appearance package.
55:27
Basically, if you already had a Mave, those wheels are ugly.
55:30
Wouldn't you just buy something aftermarket that's better?
55:33
I don't know.
55:33
The wheels are kind of cool.
55:34
They're very mad Max to me.
55:36
Yeah, but okay.
55:37
They're sort of like the bowling balls.
55:38
From the 82 Trans Am, right?
55:40
In my opinion, math, math is a wonderful, get off your ass and do some math, math.
55:49
I know where you're going with this, Tanya.
55:51
So for 28 grand, you can buy a regular Ford Mamret, or you can
55:55
spend 8, 000 more starting at 36, six for wheels and suspension.
56:01
So you can't buy a new suspension and four new wheels for less than eight grand.
56:06
You could put this sucker on bags and better wheels for less than eight grand.
56:10
But the interior, you're not going to get the slightly upgraded interior.
56:14
Slightly upgraded.
56:15
Oh, give me a break.
56:18
This is trash.
56:19
Nobody's gonna buy that thing.
56:21
Someone's going to buy it as someone who's not a fan of the Maverick to
56:24
begin with, I think all of this is dumb.
56:26
I mean, it's still only 36, 000 for a pickup truck.
56:28
So somebody is going to buy it, but it's not, it's a Honda Ridgeline.
56:32
Basically people bought that they did.
56:36
Oh my God.
56:37
I laugh at them every single time I see one.
56:40
All right.
56:40
Well, we got a call back.
56:42
Something we talked about a couple of drive thrus that go where GM had
56:45
hired one of this C level folks from Apple and all this, they're going
56:49
to bring in the new technology and the systems are going to be similar.
56:53
You know, it's not going to be GM with theirs and Cadillac with the other thing
56:55
and this and that and the other whatever since then that guy packed it up left
56:59
and they've laid off 5, 000 people with retirement buyouts and all sorts of stuff.
57:03
And guess what?
57:03
I even got a notice from LinkedIn that was like, Hey, pump the brakes.
57:07
Have you heard the latest GMs laying off another thousand people, but
57:12
quote Not downsizing due to cost cuts.
57:16
Yeah.
57:16
Okay, sure.
57:17
They've got to be able to afford those bonuses and golden
57:21
parachutes for the C suites.
57:23
Unbelievable.
57:24
Again, making all the right moves.
57:25
I guess they got to pay for their C8R program somehow.
57:29
Right.
57:30
But there is no C8R program.
57:32
Remember GM pulled out of sponsorship for that.
57:36
Well, nobody knows what GM's building.
57:38
They haven't really dipped their toes back into the EV world.
57:41
There's no hybrids.
57:43
There's no crews.
57:44
GM doesn't know what GM's building.
57:46
We've gone to that well, several times and the bucket comes up dry.
57:49
So they're monoliths.
57:50
It's like moving mountains to get anything to happen over there.
57:54
So in 10 or 20 years, we'll understand what GM was up to in 2024.
57:58
It's all good.
57:59
But maybe it's because they got a quote unquote, allegedly not cutting
58:03
costs due to downsizing or whatever, because they have to pay 15 million
58:07
in a class action lawsuit to Duramax owners because of the fuel pump problem.
58:11
Surprise, surprise.
58:12
Guess who's involved with them?
58:14
Bosch.
58:15
Here we go again.
58:17
More diesel gate nonsense, but it could also be, and I'm surprised Tanya didn't
58:21
jump on me for this bad investments.
58:24
Like, Oh, I don't know.
58:25
Nicola, maybe bad investments like the development of the
58:30
most recent Impala in Malibu.
58:32
I can't believe people buy those cars.
58:33
Enterprise buys those cars.
58:35
So you couldn't see me the other day.
58:37
I was trying to point to you when we were following each other.
58:39
Was that before or after we almost got pulled over by the cop?
58:43
Yeah, thank you.
58:44
Thank you.
58:45
Because I wasn't stupidly.
58:47
I'm like, Oh, Eric's gonna set the pace correctly because he's in front.
58:51
Meanwhile, I would have been the sucker that got caught.
58:54
Anyway, no, no, no.
58:56
We were already really close back home.
58:58
But there was a Malibu RS or something like that.
59:01
I was like, what is this?
59:03
Icarb right there next to us.
59:06
I was like, what?
59:08
I got confused on the road.
59:09
I saw a Colorado with a V badge.
59:12
And I was like, they made a Colorado V?
59:14
Like a CTSB and then I got closer and it says V6.
59:17
So obviously that's my poor eyesight at this point.
59:21
Because that six is like a red color.
59:23
Right?
59:24
The V is silver and the six is red.
59:26
Exactly.
59:27
So it's hard to see the red from a distance, but it was like Colorado B?
59:31
It's weirder things out there.
59:32
It's the Colorado V black lung.
59:34
The black lung.
59:37
That's the diesel version.
59:40
Speaking of the black lung GR Corolla owners, Tanya, this could have been you.
59:45
Ah, it would have been me.
59:50
Luck is not on our side sometimes, but neither is it for these folks.
59:54
Can you believe this stuff?
59:56
More than one GR Corolla has burned to the ground.
59:59
And by more than one, two.
1:00:02
It's a true statement.
1:00:03
Ah, well.
1:00:05
It's not funny, especially since it was like middle finger because
1:00:09
our warranty says that you shouldn't exceed 85 miles an hour.
1:00:14
Like what?
1:00:16
I read this several times and I agree with the author of this particular article
1:00:21
because one of the things he pointed out Toyota is using this logic of Okay.
1:00:25
We built a car that can do, let's say 140 miles an hour, right?
1:00:28
Cause the GR Corolla is peppy and it's fast.
1:00:30
This is the circuit edition.
1:00:32
So this is the track prepped one, right?
1:00:34
And then there's whatever that midnight murdered out Mitsu package.
1:00:38
Yeah.
1:00:38
That's really the track one because it comes with no back seats and like
1:00:41
a half gauge and all that stuff.
1:00:43
GR Corolla GT3 or whatever it is.
1:00:45
Right.
1:00:45
So let's just say they built 140 mile an hour hatchback.
1:00:49
Okay, fine.
1:00:50
That you can't accelerate.
1:00:52
Yeah.
1:00:52
Drive it like you're going to the grocery store.
1:00:54
You shouldn't exceed 85, which is higher than most U.
1:00:57
S.
1:00:57
speed limits, except if like you're in the middle of Montana
1:01:00
or something like that, right?
1:01:01
Where there is a speed limit.
1:01:02
And that's fine, but Dot, dot, dot.
1:01:04
The author says and points out when you buy one of these cars,
1:01:09
Toyota gifts you a track day.
1:01:11
Yeah, and you will exceed 85 miles an hour.
1:01:14
So here's the part that really scares me and makes it so I will never buy a Toyota
1:01:19
performance car if this is the case.
1:01:21
It is.
1:01:21
Toyota told him at some point in the car's life, it sent out a data
1:01:26
packet that included the car's speed.
1:01:29
I mean, Skynet alert, what in the world is this?
1:01:33
Yeah, that's the scary part.
1:01:34
It's sending back pings with data to Toyota that they can use to void
1:01:40
my warranty because they deem fit.
1:01:42
First of all, do they ever explain what that certain speed is?
1:01:45
I don't see anywhere where it says, but apparently he
1:01:48
went 114 miles per hour once.
1:01:51
And they don't care that the car comes with a track day.
1:01:53
I guess you have to go to a track where you do not exceed that speed.
1:01:56
That to me is very scary that my car is going to ping Toyota with data about me.
1:02:01
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
1:02:01
And there's been tons of cases about that.
1:02:04
And it's not just Tesla, you know, before people get on the bandwagon
1:02:07
and start blaring those trumpets.
1:02:09
It's other brands that are doing exactly what you're saying.
1:02:12
They're snooping on you.
1:02:13
This is what we've said about those insurance companies.
1:02:16
They're like, plug this thing into your OBD for the good driver discount.
1:02:19
Yeah, you can keep all that crap.
1:02:21
But in this case, how do we know that this alleged 114 mile an hour that
1:02:26
this gentleman did with his GR Corolla?
1:02:29
Wasn't at summit point as an example.
1:02:31
Maybe it was Tanner Faust shooting a commercial with a regular Corolla
1:02:35
showing how good the two are together.
1:02:37
But the point is we don't have any reason, season or justification
1:02:42
for the 114 mile an hour.
1:02:44
And I'm not trying to absolve anyone of their sins, but the point is you
1:02:48
build a performance car that can't do what it's supposed to do on paper.
1:02:53
Say one of these things burned to the ground during a test,
1:02:57
like car drivers testing the car.
1:02:59
How do you know that this wasn't a demo car at some point?
1:03:02
You don't know.
1:03:03
There's so many variables.
1:03:04
The problem here is Toyota's been known for having really good
1:03:08
warranties and being upstanding and all those kinds of things.
1:03:11
Not if you own a GR Corolla.
1:03:13
Does this extend to all GR products?
1:03:16
The 86, the Supra, the Yaris, and so on down the line?
1:03:20
This is the first we're hearing about it because the Corolla is the newest car.
1:03:24
How does this apply to other vehicles?
1:03:26
So Brad, you do a maneuver on the highway and you got to go around
1:03:30
a semi truck and you hit the not recommended speed of 85, maybe you do
1:03:34
86 miles an hour to get around them.
1:03:36
Did you just void the warranty on your Sienna?
1:03:38
You know, that's a great question because I've done triple digits and Sienna.
1:03:45
So I don't know what type of data, but I bought the vehicle used.
1:03:48
So I'm not even relying on Toyota for the warranty anyway.
1:03:51
If it's not calling home like ET.
1:03:53
Well, true.
1:03:54
They're being somewhat misleading.
1:03:56
The author or Toyota?
1:03:58
Everyone.
1:03:58
Everything on this, because 85 mile an hour thing, if this is
1:04:02
a quote from the Toyota manual.
1:04:04
It just says to not drive over 85 miles an hour unless your vehicle
1:04:07
has high speed capability tires.
1:04:10
So that statement alone goes, hey, it's okay, go faster if you've got ultra
1:04:14
high performance summers or slicks on.
1:04:16
Driving over 85 may result in tire failure, loss of
1:04:19
control, and possible injuries.
1:04:20
Why would you sell this car with Maypops?
1:04:23
Well, that's just legalese speak, although it's very specific to say 85
1:04:27
miles an hour and not like, Average posted speed limit or something, right?
1:04:31
Like you're basically saying it's okay to feed, but just
1:04:33
don't speed over this amount.
1:04:35
If we go to tire rack right now and look for replacement tires
1:04:38
for a GR Corolla, you don't think those are Z or V rated tires?
1:04:42
That's what that means.
1:04:44
ZR, VR, whatever, those are speed ratings.
1:04:47
And anything in that range is going to be above a hundred mile an hour.
1:04:51
Just go to Toyota's website and see what tires.
1:04:53
Were they selling Grius tires on a GR Corolla?
1:04:56
From the factory, the car comes with 235 40R18 Michelin Pilot Sport
1:05:02
4 high performance summer tires.
1:05:04
Those are 150 mile an hour tire, easily.
1:05:06
Michelin Pilot Sport, are you kidding me?
1:05:09
Can't exceed 85 mile an hour, my butt.
1:05:11
Pilot Sports are 300.
1:05:13
300 tread wears autocross tire, 200 tread wears a track tire.
1:05:16
And then once you go below that, you're starting to dip into slicks and all that.
1:05:19
The moral to the story is.
1:05:20
Lots of horsepower with a small engine means lots of heat, and in a confined
1:05:26
space, like a hatchback, transverse, there's not a lot of room for airflow.
1:05:31
I don't know that that's the problem, because if you read the second
1:05:34
guy's experience, it almost sounds like it was an electrical error.
1:05:37
I thought I read somewhere else that somebody blew a hole in
1:05:40
the side of one of those motors.
1:05:41
The other guy that was driving his, he got a phone notification from
1:05:45
Toyota Connect that said there was a malfunctioning electronic control.
1:05:49
Check the engine.
1:05:50
And then he said he didn't feel any loss of power.
1:05:53
Boom.
1:05:53
And then smoke started coming out, pulled over, and then it went up in flames.
1:05:57
Zero warning.
1:05:58
Well, you got a warning.
1:05:59
You got a text message.
1:06:00
You know, don't text and drive, but maybe it came up on a screen or something, but
1:06:03
good thing you read that text message.
1:06:05
I mean, the smoke would have been obvious and you would have pulled over anyway.
1:06:07
So this begs the question, what is going on with Toyota?
1:06:10
Because Not too long ago, they had issues with the turbo sixes and the hundreds too.
1:06:16
Something is afoot at the circle.
1:06:17
Okay.
1:06:18
It's unfortunate because their reputation has been built on their reliability.
1:06:22
And yeah, but that reputation was built on non turbo engines.
1:06:26
Think about that for a second.
1:06:28
True.
1:06:28
All of their long standing, hard working cars are non turbo cars.
1:06:33
Like, they've dipped their toe in the German pond, and I think they've realized
1:06:37
that the water's a little too hot.
1:06:39
But, to counter that, the Turbo Supra from the 90s was one of
1:06:43
the best built motors ever.
1:06:45
The 2JZ is an incredible engine.
1:06:47
There is no doubt.
1:06:48
But think about that.
1:06:49
They haven't had another turbo engine, really, since.
1:06:52
You're right.
1:06:53
Yeah.
1:06:53
Yeah.
1:06:53
I mean, the first one that came out since then was the one that
1:06:56
they partnered with BMW on.
1:06:58
And if you think about it, the BRZ or the 86, which continues to be
1:07:03
non turbo, Toyota must have told Subaru, because we're all sitting
1:07:06
here going, it's such a slug.
1:07:08
Why wouldn't you put a turbo on it?
1:07:10
I'm thinking Toyota's like.
1:07:11
No turbos, no turbos, no turbos.
1:07:13
And then finally the bow broke.
1:07:15
And with the Yaris, because basically the motor in the Corolla is the motor from the
1:07:19
Yaris, the Celicas came turbocharged too.
1:07:22
So were they the same motor as the Supras?
1:07:24
But the Celicas were turbocharged back in the eighties and nineties.
1:07:27
Way back.
1:07:28
Way back.
1:07:28
Yeah.
1:07:29
Cause you're talking about the alt track or whatever it's called.
1:07:31
The Celicas after that weren't turbo.
1:07:33
Are we just saying then they forgot how to build turbos?
1:07:35
Yes.
1:07:36
The technology has changed.
1:07:37
They also forgot how to build inline sixes, which is why
1:07:40
the Supra is a BMW engine.
1:07:42
What's happening is they're cutting corners.
1:07:44
More likely.
1:07:44
And the 2JZ engineering won out, not finance.
1:07:49
And that's why it was so overbuilt.
1:07:51
Well, not only that, packaging of the 2JZ, it was longitudinal.
1:07:55
So again, it goes back to airflow.
1:07:57
You've got a lot of stuff going on in a very small space.
1:08:00
Not to say that the Supra Was a Buick Riviera under the hood, but the
1:08:05
point is with an inline, there was more ways to cool it than there is
1:08:10
in those Yaris's and those Corollas.
1:08:12
Yeah.
1:08:12
And the thing is the Yaris has proven itself on the WRC stage, but
1:08:17
that's a race car and it's different.
1:08:19
If you looked at how many louvers and vents and cooling and ducks and wings and
1:08:23
fenders and everything that those cars have, they're nothing like the street car.
1:08:27
Plus the.
1:08:27
The chassis is all tube frame.
1:08:29
They've got a lot more room for the heat to be dissipated than in the street cars.
1:08:33
All I'm going to say is I would not want to own a turbo Toyota right now.
1:08:39
I'll stick to my big, slow laboring V8 that just kind of putt putts around
1:08:44
at like 1200 RPM at 70 miles an hour.
1:08:48
And it'll be big, slow and laboring for the next hundred years.
1:08:51
Exactly.
1:08:52
It's good.
1:08:52
It's going to last me forever.
1:08:53
So I'll stick to that.
1:08:54
You know, Brad, we talked about a whole bunch of cars over the years,
1:08:58
lost and found, you know, things you can still get on the dealership lot.
1:09:01
And I think up until not too long ago, you could still get
1:09:04
NSXs on the dealership lot.
1:09:07
And we were like, man, did they stop making that car like in 2016
1:09:10
or 2018 or something like that?
1:09:12
Acura.
1:09:13
Confirms a new NSX, we're going to put air quotes around that, is headed
1:09:18
to production with an EV power plant.
1:09:20
Did you see me on there?
1:09:21
That's how I feel about rich nerds doing rich nerd things.
1:09:24
And I'm going to be the great car knack for a moment and say, this is going to
1:09:28
sell 1 percent of what the NSX sold.
1:09:32
Which was already 1 percent of what Honda sold.
1:09:34
Exactly.
1:09:35
The NSX was already a hybrid, especially in racing.
1:09:38
So that's where the E Ray got its inspiration from, right?
1:09:41
So I'm like, uh, Do we really need this?
1:09:44
But I will say this, you know, kind of speaking to the E Ray and speaking to
1:09:48
the Corvette and the Lamborghini that we were talking about earlier, it is
1:09:51
sort of amazing that cars like this are still being produced, these like
1:09:55
quote unquote supercars or hypercars.
1:09:57
I think it's interesting though, and I heard somebody say this recently, that
1:10:01
companies like Corvette producing cars like the C8 allow the other manufacturers
1:10:07
to continue to build stuff like this.
1:10:09
And it's not even in a competitive way.
1:10:11
It's like, well, if GM is still doing it, then we can still do it too.
1:10:15
There must be interest.
1:10:15
There must be people that want to buy it.
1:10:17
It's a really interesting way of kind of framing why supercars still exist.
1:10:21
Because if you think about it, they're impractical.
1:10:23
They're expensive.
1:10:24
They're not economical in any way, shape, or form.
1:10:27
And it's like, why do we still have these other than for the posters on our wall?
1:10:30
In reality, with AI being what it is these days, Acura could make
1:10:35
an NSX that we can put on our wall that they'll never produce.
1:10:38
And I'll still look at it and go, man, that's.
1:10:39
It's really sexy.
1:10:40
It's really nice, but it's fake.
1:10:41
But I have to applaud them for their tenacity to continue to pursue these
1:10:46
ideas that supercars need to be built because they are awe inspiring.
1:10:51
They're a testament to the technology and to the advancement of the companies.
1:10:53
But I don't think this is going to sell well.
1:10:56
I took the slow boat to justify that there.
1:10:58
Sorry guys.
1:10:59
I'm sorry.
1:11:00
Were you saying something?
1:11:03
I blacked out for a minute.
1:11:04
That's the second time she's done that to us this episode.
1:11:07
What was the other time?
1:11:09
When we were doing the Letterman Top 15.
1:11:11
Oh my god.
1:11:13
Oh, this there's oh my god.
1:11:15
That was some dry stuff, but I hope you enjoyed it.
1:11:19
We're just not tickling Tanya's fancies this time.
1:11:22
She's not into it.
1:11:23
You know what I mean?
1:11:24
The doldrums of summer.
1:11:26
Really awkward.
1:11:27
Well, Tanya, let's talk about what do you want to talk about?
1:11:29
I want to talk about the next MG.
1:11:31
Ooh.
1:11:32
You don't want to talk about three wheeled things?
1:11:34
Oh, I skipped that.
1:11:35
I'm sorry.
1:11:37
Apparently what I really want to talk about is something I know nothing about.
1:11:41
I added this because we don't get to talk about motorcycles very often and
1:11:44
I'm not plugged into motorcycle news as much as I should be, but I just don't
1:11:48
see things like Ducati is coming out.
1:11:50
It always feels like, yeah, okay.
1:11:51
They have a new.
1:11:52
Monster 9, 000, 003 or whatever it is.
1:11:56
And that's great.
1:11:56
And then they make that for like 15 years, you know, and then
1:11:59
they come out with the next one.
1:12:00
This one came across my desk and I was like, am I missing something?
1:12:03
Three wheeled vehicles.
1:12:05
Is it a trike when the wheel is in the front or in the back?
1:12:08
The front.
1:12:09
Okay.
1:12:09
So three wheeled where there's two in the front and one in the back.
1:12:12
What's that called?
1:12:13
The triangle.
1:12:13
It's called crap.
1:12:15
That's called, it's called poser.
1:12:17
Okay.
1:12:17
So we're on the same page.
1:12:19
They're dumb.
1:12:20
Well, let's be nice.
1:12:22
They're not dumb.
1:12:23
They're just for a certain demographic.
1:12:26
People that want to be motorcycle riders and they want to be part of
1:12:29
the community, but they don't want to learn how to ride a motorcycle.
1:12:31
There you go.
1:12:32
Or they're older.
1:12:33
But then they get like a traditional tri carly.
1:12:36
They don't get whatever this abomination is.
1:12:39
This thing is so big.
1:12:41
It has a 10 and a quarter inch Apple CarPlay compatible touchscreen.
1:12:45
It's a three wheeler.
1:12:46
I want to know when Ewan McGregor is going to take one of these around the world.
1:12:51
He did with the BMW motorcycles.
1:12:53
You know when that's going to happen?
1:12:54
Never, because he's not a poser.
1:12:56
And the reason I say this is rich people things, do you guys want
1:12:59
to guess how much this costs?
1:13:01
I'm guessing 45, 000.
1:13:02
You're a little high.
1:13:03
42, 500.
1:13:04
For the listeners, it's a 2025 Can Am Anion.
1:13:08
Three wheel triangular thing, it's, it's not a trike.
1:13:11
'cause the wheel is in the back.
1:13:12
So it's like a motorcycle.
1:13:13
It's a mullet business in the front with two wheels and you steer
1:13:17
and it's motorcycle in the back.
1:13:18
Even the person riding it in the picture does not look
1:13:21
like they're having anything.
1:13:21
No, not at all.
1:13:22
They don't look like they're enjoying this.
1:13:23
Okay, so back to the price.
1:13:25
Suggested MSRP $27,000 for this upwards of $33,000.
1:13:33
I don't know.
1:13:34
How much does a regular K& M cost?
1:13:36
Probably mid twenties.
1:13:37
You can't ride this on the street.
1:13:39
You literally have to buy a trailer to take this somewhere
1:13:42
to go ride it, not on the road.
1:13:44
Why can't you ride it on the street?
1:13:45
Well, isn't that the same thing with the K& M?
1:13:47
That's street legal?
1:13:48
K& Ms are street legal?
1:13:49
I mean, the three wheel motorcycles like this are street legal?
1:13:53
Yes.
1:13:53
They're registered as motorcycles.
1:13:55
It's for the mullet thing, right?
1:13:56
I mean, it is what it is.
1:13:57
It must fit in with this crowd of ATV ish.
1:14:00
Look at all the crap that they bolted to it.
1:14:02
You're going on your off road adventure and you can go camp.
1:14:05
I don't know.
1:14:05
You're going to go do dirt through the woods.
1:14:08
I mean, the wheelbase of the new Fiat Panda is as big as this thing.
1:14:11
You can go off road with that too.
1:14:13
I mean, you could go off road with a Sisley.
1:14:15
You can't get the Fiat Panda in the U.
1:14:16
S.
1:14:16
Exactly.
1:14:17
Exactly.
1:14:18
We can't get the Fiat Panda in the U.
1:14:19
S.
1:14:19
You're going to get this crap for twice as much.
1:14:22
Speaking of other things that we can't get US, Tanya, you
1:14:25
already hit the nail on the head.
1:14:26
Let's go to the Brits.
1:14:27
What are they going to offer us?
1:14:29
I think you're over there.
1:14:30
You can get an MG.
1:14:31
And?
1:14:31
They're still making cars?
1:14:32
Scares.
1:14:33
The MG Zs.
1:14:34
The Zs.
1:14:35
Why do they keep taking weird pictures of it?
1:14:37
Like it has no windshield.
1:14:39
Did you look at these pictures?
1:14:40
They're Poorly framed pictures too.
1:14:42
Like the, the one where it's like 50 percent of it is like the
1:14:45
pavement that the car is sitting on.
1:14:48
My kids would take better pictures than this.
1:14:50
But the car is not officially unveiled yet.
1:14:53
It's coming out next week.
1:14:54
The pictures should be slightly better.
1:14:56
It looks like every other Peugeot Hyundai, they all look the same.
1:15:01
Again, I thought MG went out of business.
1:15:04
So it should have owned by Chinese companies.
1:15:07
Sometimes we talk about concepts in this section of EVs and concepts.
1:15:11
Every once in a while, there's an interesting concept that comes up.
1:15:14
And we talked about the students that created the solar powered bus, and they
1:15:18
did that multiple times and tried to go on that trip across Europe and, you
1:15:21
know, success or failure, whatever.
1:15:23
I brought this up before because of the Fisker solar roof, which didn't work.
1:15:28
And then Tesla has their solar roof, allegedly maybe laser
1:15:32
beams in 10 years type of thing.
1:15:35
These college kids created solar powered EV chargers.
1:15:40
This could be, like, a winner.
1:15:41
I think this is cool.
1:15:42
Well, that's the whole meme about people who own electric vehicles, right?
1:15:46
It's like, oh, cool, you're running electric and, like, you're
1:15:49
still getting the power from fossil fuels or something, right?
1:15:52
Like, big oil.
1:15:53
And it's like, well, if you really want to be all environmental and purely
1:15:58
sustainable, you need exactly this.
1:16:00
You need to be charging your car from the sun.
1:16:03
Good on these college kids for having Class Project build solar panels that
1:16:07
are now being used on their campus.
1:16:08
I find an article funny where it's like, and the students can use free
1:16:12
parking passes to use the charger.
1:16:14
I'm like, what college kid is rolling up with EVs?
1:16:17
I mean, maybe that's the new thing these days.
1:16:19
I don't know.
1:16:20
Dad's old Model S is now the car to go to college with, right?
1:16:24
Got it.
1:16:25
Well, as we switch to Brad's favorite section, Lost and Found, where we don't
1:16:29
scour the internet anymore looking for the newest old car on used dealership lots, we
1:16:34
are gonna go back to the 90s to something that Brad and I remember quite well.
1:16:38
Yes, yes, the Mystic Cobras.
1:16:41
It wasn't just the Fox Body either, it was the SN95 after that.
1:16:45
Yeah, all the way through 2004, they sold cars in that color.
1:16:50
Cobras, only Cobras.
1:16:51
The Mystic Cobras.
1:16:52
Well, RTR, the Mustang tuner is bringing us back to the nineties.
1:16:57
They are bringing Mr.
1:16:58
Chrome paint back because Ford won't do it.
1:17:01
I was just about to say, because the piggyback on that Ford has told people
1:17:04
that the new GT are the new race Mustang.
1:17:09
You can not get in this car.
1:17:10
You can get any other color you want in the world, but you can't
1:17:12
get this because it's too hard.
1:17:14
Obviously RTR figured it out.
1:17:16
It's not that hard.
1:17:17
And you know what?
1:17:18
I didn't like it back then, but I've really come to appreciate it.
1:17:21
Yeah.
1:17:22
Yeah.
1:17:22
It's still a little bit color changing, hot wheels.
1:17:24
Remember when you would buy those and you could pour water on them and the
1:17:26
color would change and you'd watch it change back and the whole thing.
1:17:29
That's sort of what it reminds me of, but it's cool.
1:17:31
Like it goes through the whole rainbow basically.
1:17:33
Right.
1:17:33
Yeah.
1:17:34
Tanya, what about you?
1:17:35
Would you paint your car this color?
1:17:36
Would you buy a Mr.
1:17:37
Chrome Fiat Panda?
1:17:39
Ooh, that would look pretty good, actually.
1:17:41
I mean, I could repaint it, so Mystichrome wrap would be really cool.
1:17:44
Think about that.
1:17:45
When you get tired of it, you just peel it off.
1:17:46
Yep.
1:17:47
But then would that lay right?
1:17:48
Like, how would that work?
1:17:49
Like, it would change color within the cuts.
1:17:51
That would look really bad.
1:17:52
That would be horrible.
1:17:55
Way to talk yourself into it and then out of it.
1:17:58
Well, and then I realized BMW is going to do this with that
1:18:01
Kindle paint that they have.
1:18:02
So they can just do the Mr.
1:18:03
Chrome right there from the dashboard.
1:18:05
What if you're doing like a software update to make that do that?
1:18:07
And like the update doesn't complete.
1:18:09
So like half the car is one color.
1:18:12
It is like, it's going to look literally like the loading.
1:18:15
Good point here.
1:18:16
So you have this computer controlled color changing car.
1:18:19
And what if the car bricks itself?
1:18:21
Does it go full blue?
1:18:22
Microsoft with a brownie face.
1:18:25
It's gone wrong.
1:18:30
Your car's paint software has shut down unexpectedly.
1:18:33
Please restart your car.
1:18:36
Speaking of bad paint jobs, we saw a Cybertruck today, and my
1:18:40
eldest points out, she's like, Dad, why does it look so dirty?
1:18:45
And I just smiled.
1:18:46
Dirty.
1:18:47
So dirty.
1:18:47
Because, honey, that's what happens to stainless steel
1:18:50
when you do anything with it.
1:18:53
I literally told her, because we bought one of these countertop
1:18:56
ice makers, and it had, you know, that like light blue plastic.
1:19:02
That's how Cybertruck should be delivered!
1:19:04
I was thinking that, right?
1:19:05
I told her, I said, you remember when I kind of got like just in
1:19:09
my own head about your mom taking the plastic off of the ice maker?
1:19:12
She's like, yeah, you looked at it lately and I got to keep cleaning it.
1:19:15
Cause it just looks gross.
1:19:16
gross, like all the time.
1:19:18
She's like, yeah, I have noticed.
1:19:19
And I said, this is why I didn't want you to take the
1:19:22
plastic wrap off the ice maker.
1:19:23
So to your point, Brad, the Cybertruck should have that plastic wrap on there.
1:19:27
You're such a curmudgeon.
1:19:28
Do you have plastic wrap on your couches now?
1:19:30
Did you go that far back into the eighties?
1:19:33
No, but Tanya keeps it on her TVs though.
1:19:35
You've turned into your parents.
1:19:36
No, you know what?
1:19:38
I took my plastic off my TV.
1:19:40
What happens?
1:19:41
My TV dies.
1:19:42
Those things are totally unrelated.
1:19:44
Is it a Tesla TV?
1:19:45
Cause that sounds like something that would do.
1:19:46
Yeah.
1:19:46
So keep your plastic shipping tape, like the challengers with that yellow stuff on
1:19:51
the spoiler, keep it on your cyber truck.
1:19:53
That's all I'm saying about that.
1:19:54
Well, that's what you need to do.
1:19:55
You need to go buy some carbon fiber wrap for your ice maker.
1:19:57
You know, that's a really good idea.
1:20:00
It drives me nuts.
1:20:00
I know Al can do that for you.
1:20:02
That's true.
1:20:03
We got to come up with a cool name for my ice maker.
1:20:05
It's got to have like a cyber truck name to it.
1:20:07
Cyber ice.
1:20:08
Cyber ice.
1:20:09
That just sounds dumb.
1:20:10
Ice ice baby.
1:20:11
While switching gears and talking a little bit more about Lost and Found, if
1:20:15
you're just tuning into the show now, or you're catching up into our catalog of
1:20:19
break fix episodes, we recently did our first ever two part, what should I buy?
1:20:24
That was Mark specific.
1:20:26
And that's.
1:20:27
Marcus and type of car specific, it's a series about the battle between Porsche
1:20:32
and Corvette over the last 70 years.
1:20:34
And I know you can get on your soapbox on either side and stats
1:20:38
and figures and racing records and all those kinds of things.
1:20:41
But we're really talking about in those 2 episodes.
1:20:44
Is what we call the every person's sports car, which both the nine 11, the Corvette
1:20:49
were always marketed to people as right.
1:20:52
This is the every person's sports car.
1:20:54
So we talk through the 70 plus years and the eight generations of both
1:20:58
cars and try to determine what was the best bang for your buck and where
1:21:02
to invest your collector dollars or, you know, those kinds of things,
1:21:05
depending on if you're new to Corvette or if you're new to Porsche, or if
1:21:08
you already have a bunch of Corvettes, you know, should you buy another one?
1:21:10
Why, you know, all those kinds of things.
1:21:12
It was a really, really cool.
1:21:13
It was very, very well received.
1:21:15
Those episodes are trending really well.
1:21:17
If you haven't listened to them, go back and listen to them.
1:21:19
Corvette first, Porsche second, that's part one and part two.
1:21:23
They do feed into each other.
1:21:25
Lots of great information in there.
1:21:26
And I do want to give a huge thank you and a shout out to our panel of petrol heads.
1:21:31
Different people, other than the core panel on both episodes, they did a
1:21:34
stellar job with this idea, which by the way, has been baking since last car week
1:21:40
when Don and I were kind of strategizing on some different, what should I buy?
1:21:43
So we're happy to finally be able to release this two parter
1:21:47
after a year in the making.
1:21:49
And again, they're available everywhere podcast.
1:21:53
But we got one more lost and found for you guys.
1:21:56
And it sort of borderlines into the uncool wall.
1:21:59
Do you think that this POS is worth 7, 500 bucks?
1:22:03
If that is worth 7, 500 bucks, then my coupe is worth 10 grand.
1:22:08
10!
1:22:09
Your car is worth 30.
1:22:10
Damn, there you go.
1:22:12
I was being a little baller.
1:22:13
Would you spend 7, 500 bucks on an 86 Chevy Cavalier Z24?
1:22:18
No.
1:22:19
What's important is this person has a very interesting car lineup.
1:22:23
Did you see the cars in the background?
1:22:25
That's a Mark one rabbit, GTI and N a Miata.
1:22:29
What looks to be the sensible car, the Lincoln.
1:22:32
I think that looks like either a Lincoln or a Cadillac and then a Fox body.
1:22:35
This person is a very interesting tasting cars.
1:22:37
That's the only thing worth mentioning for this whole thing.
1:22:40
There's nothing to say about this humble product from GM.
1:22:44
It's clean.
1:22:45
I am shocked though, about the features that this thing has a moon roof, sunroof.
1:22:51
In 1986.
1:22:52
I'll get in that.
1:22:53
Yeah, and it's a stick shift!
1:22:54
And it's got a digital dash and all the things that are wrong about the 80s at GM.
1:22:58
Even the interior looks like it's in good condition.
1:23:01
Do you want to sit in that though?
1:23:02
Come on.
1:23:03
You know what that feels like.
1:23:04
What interior is better?
1:23:06
This or the interior at that Audi?
1:23:08
Ooh, they're really similar actually.
1:23:10
Those seats.
1:23:13
This only has 71, 000 miles on it.
1:23:15
That's why it's so clear.
1:23:16
71, 000 too many that somebody spent in that thing.
1:23:19
Yeah, it should have been 7, 100 miles.
1:23:22
Then maybe it's worth 400.
1:23:25
Those are some track gauges.
1:23:28
Wow.
1:23:29
Though for 1986, I mean, they had that digital dash like the 87 and a half GTs.
1:23:35
So the importance behind this car, the reason I bring it up is because
1:23:37
back in the day, I don't know if you remember Tanya, but when dad was
1:23:42
going on his whole pro solo tour and campaigning the Honda, he had a choice.
1:23:48
Ben offered him one of these in white or the CRX.
1:23:52
Ben raced one before.
1:23:54
Yes.
1:23:55
He was already racing one.
1:23:56
Yes.
1:23:57
One of these Cavalier Z24s.
1:23:59
And he's like, but I have the CRX over here.
1:24:02
And it's like, gee, that was a hard choice.
1:24:04
Can you imagine pro soloing a Cavalier?
1:24:07
Like, come on.
1:24:08
What a turd.
1:24:10
No way.
1:24:10
Well, like always, we would be remiss if we didn't talk about There's no
1:24:17
You notice we didn't start with the Cybertruck this time?
1:24:20
True, we started with Monoride.
1:24:22
Is there even any Cybertruck news?
1:24:24
Yeah, there's no Cybertruck news, but remember last time we talked, there
1:24:27
was 11, 000 Cybertrucks being recalled?
1:24:30
Well, if that wasn't enough Tesla said, GM, hold my bear.
1:24:34
You remember when the Corvette C8, we would make fun that it had the hood
1:24:37
latch problem and it might come up and smack the windshield and all that 1.
1:24:41
8 million Teslas are being recalled for a very similar issue with their
1:24:46
hood release or front release.
1:24:48
Not that they don't latch, they latch.
1:24:50
So that's not the problem.
1:24:51
The problem is.
1:24:53
The sensor, if you didn't put it all the way down, doesn't
1:24:57
alert you that the hood is a jar.
1:25:00
The hood is a hood.
1:25:00
It's never a jar.
1:25:03
He's here all night, ladies and gentlemen.
1:25:07
So apparently it's a software update that's already available.
1:25:10
Oh, come on.
1:25:11
Which then I'm like, do other cars have?
1:25:14
Hood sensors going back to cars, like let's just use our
1:25:18
favorite generation of Volkswagen.
1:25:21
The Mark fours had hood sensors, the cable, they never worked though.
1:25:25
Yes, my 2003 has a hood sensor and I only know though if you try to
1:25:31
lock the car, it will not lock.
1:25:33
That's all it does.
1:25:34
But there's nothing to alert me if I were to turn the car on and start driving.
1:25:38
Correct.
1:25:39
It's a useless sensor that you can fuse the two wires together and delete it.
1:25:43
That's how good it is.
1:25:43
I mean, this is kind of like a lame recall.
1:25:45
I mean, yeah, they should recall it, I guess.
1:25:47
I don't know.
1:25:48
But whatever.
1:25:49
The more interesting recall is the 9100 model Xs that have apparently
1:25:55
trim pieces that, I guess, fall off.
1:25:59
But isn't that just normal now for Teslas?
1:26:01
Like, just, stuff falls off of them?
1:26:04
Because it's not attached correctly to begin with?
1:26:05
Apparently the trim pieces on the roof, the Model X's have the doors that come up.
1:26:09
The gull wings, yeah.
1:26:10
Is it the roof or is it the door trim pieces?
1:26:12
I don't know.
1:26:14
Maybe it's the center piece of the roof.
1:26:16
I guess what astonishes me, and this is where fact Gets
1:26:19
confirmed because of the recalls.
1:26:21
So they have to disclose how many cars need to be recalled, which confirms
1:26:25
the number of cars that they sold.
1:26:27
When you kind of separate the lies from the more lies of all the cars that were
1:26:32
sold, 9, 100 model Xs are being recalled.
1:26:36
So that's how many model Xs are out there in the wild.
1:26:39
That's not that many.
1:26:40
That's not a lot of cars.
1:26:41
For as many years as that car's been on the road.
1:26:43
They can't fix this with a software update?
1:26:45
No.
1:26:46
With some Elmer's glue though.
1:26:48
Apparently they sold 24, 000 of these during the pandemic.
1:26:54
2022 sales units was 24, 000.
1:26:57
But we sell millions!
1:26:59
Yeah, okay.
1:27:00
But apparently only 9, 100 of them have a problem with the trim pieces falling off.
1:27:05
The other, what, 12, 000 or whatever haven't driven long enough.
1:27:08
Or they don't exist.
1:27:09
They're just license keys.
1:27:11
They're sitting on abandoned lots in Texas.
1:27:13
If that wasn't bad enough, we switch over to what we like to
1:27:16
call now, That's Unfortunate.
1:27:22
And what happened over with some other Teslas, Tanya?
1:27:24
This is your Tesla semi truck that caught on fire on a highway.
1:27:29
We're just gonna leave it there.
1:27:30
They say that EVs don't catch on fire at any greater rate than ice engines.
1:27:35
The article is very quick to point that out.
1:27:37
Right.
1:27:38
My real question is whose semi was this?
1:27:41
Frito Lay?
1:27:42
Pepsi?
1:27:42
That would have been an interesting fire.
1:27:44
Or smelled interesting.
1:27:45
Not many people have taken stock of these.
1:27:47
So I love how the crime scene report or whatever you want
1:27:50
to call it that they fill out.
1:27:52
So, there was no crash, and it's not clear if the truck caught on fire first,
1:27:56
or if the cargo caught on fire first.
1:27:59
So, this might not have been a semi problem.
1:28:02
What was your cargo?
1:28:04
Fireworks?
1:28:04
I don't know.
1:28:05
According to this, the firefighter mentioned a lithium ion battery fire.
1:28:11
The cargo could have caught on fire if the batteries are underneath the cargo.
1:28:14
Right.
1:28:15
But according to this, because of the path that it was taking and where it
1:28:19
was going from Nevada to California, apparently this might have been
1:28:23
a Tesla carrying Tesla batteries.
1:28:25
Here's our Florida man.
1:28:26
Oh, Jesus Christ.
1:28:32
Argo could catch on fire.
1:28:33
Correct.
1:28:34
Because it's being jostled around.
1:28:35
How did they put it out?
1:28:37
If that really was a cargo of lithium batteries and they went off, you'd
1:28:43
have to drop the MFR in the ocean.
1:28:45
It's unreal.
1:28:46
Given how long, allegedly, it takes them to put out just a regular old
1:28:50
Tesla fire, and then they gotta like leave it in the pond because
1:28:55
20 minutes later it could reignite.
1:28:56
Oh my god.
1:28:57
It couldn't have been then.
1:28:58
It couldn't have been.
1:28:59
This would have been like such hot news.
1:29:01
Literally.
1:29:01
Literally.
1:29:02
You know what else is hot news?
1:29:04
And also unfortunate, there was an article that came out
1:29:07
that says RECARO is bankrupt.
1:29:10
I was going to go there.
1:29:11
Yes.
1:29:11
RECARO's bankrupt.
1:29:12
BBS is an insolvency and making a complete hat trick.
1:29:16
Fanatec is also gone in that same direction where they're,
1:29:20
they're losing their butt.
1:29:21
They lost a big contract with the manufacturer, didn't they?
1:29:24
Yeah.
1:29:24
RECARO, I don't understand their business model because there's so many different
1:29:30
Lines of seats that they produce, whether it's for aerospace, whether
1:29:35
it's for busing for Marine, for cars, I think this is specifically for cars
1:29:40
and it doesn't affect the other ones.
1:29:42
And some people have said it's because of rules in the different industries.
1:29:45
So they have different sub companies.
1:29:47
So it's not all of our car that's going bankrupt.
1:29:49
It's just the automotive division.
1:29:50
And if you kind of think about it, it makes sense.
1:29:52
Like I see the Recaro booths at petite Lamont and you go to some
1:29:56
of the other races and stuff, and you're like, okay, cool.
1:29:58
And you look at the price and you're like, my factory seats are pretty good now.
1:30:02
It's not like the eighties where it's like, yeah, okay.
1:30:05
You buy the GTI because it comes with the Recaro seats.
1:30:08
Ooh.
1:30:08
You know, a lot of those seats are still made by Recaro.
1:30:11
And to your point, they, maybe they lost a contract or two, but who's
1:30:14
buying replacement seats, that whole business line just doesn't make sense.
1:30:18
And if you're building a race car, you're not going to buy a Recaro.
1:30:21
You're going to buy a Sparco or an O and P or one of the other brands.
1:30:25
Because they have the certifications and the halo.
1:30:28
And I mean, I'm sure RECARO has those too, but I don't walk around the paddock and
1:30:32
see RECARO racing seats and race cars.
1:30:34
No, only if the car came with them.
1:30:36
Now, BBS, they could have lowered the price of their wheels eons ago.
1:30:40
And more people would have bought them.
1:30:41
BBSs have always been notoriously expensive and extremely light,
1:30:46
which made them very delicate.
1:30:47
And if you bent a BBS and it's like, well, you might as well
1:30:50
take a mortgage out on the house.
1:30:51
That doesn't surprise me that they're insolvency because.
1:30:54
That market is also saturated.
1:30:56
There's so many low cost wheel manufacturers.
1:30:59
BVS isn't going to be your first choice because there's folks
1:31:02
now that can make basket weaves.
1:31:04
You have all the knockoffs instead of Prada.
1:31:06
You can get Prado for Yeah, exactly.
1:31:08
So, you know, talking about Fanatec, Fanatec made their nut during COVID.
1:31:13
And everybody that bought a sim rig has already bought a sim rig.
1:31:16
And that's one of those finite industries that it's like, have you literally
1:31:20
reinvented the wheel and the pedal box?
1:31:22
I mean, the less They do something in the vein of Apple or Microsoft
1:31:26
where they push a patch and somehow make your pedal box unusable again.
1:31:31
Who are you going to upgrade for?
1:31:32
And replacement bushings and springs, there's no market in that.
1:31:36
And so many people got into that game and there's so many other manufacturers
1:31:39
now too that it's like Fanatec's really expensive and I've gotten the opportunity
1:31:44
through folks like David Middleton and MIE to sample other rigs that are out
1:31:48
there and the Fanatec stuff, it's not that nice, especially for the price.
1:31:51
There's far nicer stuff for a lot less money.
1:31:54
I mean, if you just want to buy the name Fanatec, okay, fine.
1:31:57
So I kind of feel like that's systemic of all three of these companies.
1:32:00
If you want to buy Recaro for the name to say you have a Recaro, if you want
1:32:04
to buy BBS because you want to say you have BBSs or you want to buy a Fanatec,
1:32:07
it's sort of the same thing, but they're not so good that they're lifestyle
1:32:11
brands that everybody is into now.
1:32:14
Maybe it's the end of an era for some of these companies that we're
1:32:16
used to seeing for so many years.
1:32:19
Think about it.
1:32:19
I'll draw you parallel.
1:32:20
When was the last time you bought something from Momo?
1:32:22
When I put that steering wheel in my ovary.
1:32:25
That was almost 10 years ago now.
1:32:26
Yeah, but you bought it once.
1:32:28
Well, yeah, because thankfully I've only, I've never needed to replace it.
1:32:31
Right?
1:32:32
That's the problem with making a quality product that you don't need to replace.
1:32:35
Oh, well, well, I guess we'll see what happens.
1:32:37
I mean, bankruptcy doesn't mean that Recaro is shutting its doors.
1:32:41
Insolvency doesn't mean that BBS is going away.
1:32:44
It just means that they're restructuring.
1:32:46
They're in financial trouble.
1:32:48
Maybe somebody will swoop in and buy them.
1:32:50
They'll get absorbed by another, whatever.
1:32:52
I've always thought Recaro and Sparco and Momo and all them might one day
1:32:56
eventually just merge because the products are all so very similar in some respects.
1:33:01
Hey, who knows?
1:33:02
But we don't know what the future holds for any of these folks, but I don't
1:33:05
want to see the brands go away either.
1:33:07
Now, since we're still talking about lowered expectations, I
1:33:10
saw a good one the other day.
1:33:12
I was driving down the highway, I was coming home.
1:33:13
Traffic was down to a crawl.
1:33:16
I mean, a drive that would have normally taken me 20 minutes
1:33:18
took me an hour and 20 minutes.
1:33:20
As I got closer to the crash scene, you guys will appreciate this.
1:33:23
What did I see?
1:33:24
A Nissan flipped over the Jerseyberry and immediately I said, Jump the Waltima!
1:33:31
Even though it's a Nissan.
1:33:32
Well, it was an Altima!
1:33:33
It was an Altima?
1:33:34
Well, it was an Altima!
1:33:35
It jumped the Waltima!
1:33:37
Oh, so it actually was an Altima.
1:33:38
Yes!
1:33:39
Nice.
1:33:39
I found a new one.
1:33:40
Jump the Waltima.
1:33:41
On top of that, because I was sitting in traffic, I also began
1:33:44
to realize that the Murano is just the SUV version of the Ultima.
1:33:48
It's the Taltima.
1:33:49
Yeah, it's the Taltima.
1:33:50
That's what it was called.
1:33:51
It was the Taltima.
1:33:52
Cause everything they sell is just an Ultima.
1:33:54
So, yeah.
1:33:55
They have no other cars.
1:34:01
But the Murano does suffer the same fate as the Ultima, though.
1:34:04
I haven't seen one yet that doesn't have, like, a bastion back bumper
1:34:08
or the front fenders flapping.
1:34:10
I mean, it's just Those are the best.
1:34:12
Oh, it's unreal.
1:34:14
They're still going down the road, so there you go.
1:34:16
They're not catching fire.
1:34:17
Come a nuclear holocaust.
1:34:19
There will be cockroaches and Ultimas left on the planet.
1:34:21
Like, I truly believe that there you go.
1:34:24
That's a testament to their build quality.
1:34:26
They get put through some pretty rigorous testing in the event of zombie
1:34:31
apocalypse, you know, what car to go find to make your way on Ultima.
1:34:36
You be good to go.
1:34:37
The ultimate.
1:34:40
You know, Brad, every month you mentioned, and it's even in our
1:34:44
outro on every episode of break fix.
1:34:46
It's like, you know, if you have ideas for a show, contact us, dial this number on
1:34:50
your rotary phone, hit us up on my space.
1:34:53
We actually had somebody write to us this month.
1:34:55
Yeah, we did.
1:34:57
Was it Mark Hewitt?
1:34:58
It was not Mark Hewitt, but you'll enjoy this.
1:35:00
So I'm going to read this verbatim.
1:35:02
I'm going to keep the innocent innocent.
1:35:04
And it says, after looking at your series on Netflix, I was inspired
1:35:08
to restore my 2012 Acura TSX.
1:35:11
I was wondering if your team worked on imports.
1:35:14
I currently live in New York city and it's very hard to find the
1:35:17
right shot to get the job done.
1:35:19
He doesn't realize who we are.
1:35:21
I appreciate all of our listeners and our readers.
1:35:25
Even if they don't listen, pay attention, or have the best comprehension.
1:35:29
Cool.
1:35:29
Did this actually happen?
1:35:30
For real, I'll forward it to you, dude.
1:35:32
It's a legit email.
1:35:33
But also, though, which Netflix series are you talking about?
1:35:36
BreakFix.
1:35:37
Eric didn't tell you?
1:35:38
We're on Netflix now.
1:35:39
Well, we are on IMDb up to episode 200.
1:35:42
I I went through the painstaking process.
1:35:44
What?!
1:35:44
I've got an IMDb?
1:35:46
Yeah.
1:35:46
No sh Yeah, but that was 175 episodes ago.
1:35:50
So it's been a minute.
1:35:51
Well, you got to get out there and update that.
1:35:53
Do you know how long it takes to update IMDB?
1:35:55
Dude, I don't care.
1:35:56
Do it.
1:35:56
It's a chore.
1:35:57
It is a chore.
1:35:59
You know, it's a chore creating a Wikipedia page.
1:36:01
That's a chore.
1:36:02
Well, I guess it's time we go south and talk about alligators and bears.
1:36:12
There ain't nothing to talk about.
1:36:13
What?
1:36:13
I looked for Florida men, and there are none.
1:36:16
There are no Florida men?
1:36:17
I couldn't find anything.
1:36:19
They are, I don't know where they all went.
1:36:20
They went to Car Week.
1:36:22
Yeah, or maybe it's They hibernate in August.
1:36:26
It's like Europe.
1:36:27
They go on vacation during August.
1:36:28
They take August off.
1:36:29
Have we finalized our team yet for the Florida man games?
1:36:32
Tonya's captain.
1:36:36
Get a fancy team name.
1:36:37
All right.
1:36:37
Well, we might not have any Florida man this month.
1:36:40
That is on.
1:36:40
I tried.
1:36:41
I tried.
1:36:41
I looked for other men in other States and the dry August.
1:36:45
You look for men in other States here.
1:36:48
Which way are you swiping?
1:36:50
If there are any men listening to this episode, Tanya is looking for you.
1:36:54
I looked in Texas.
1:36:55
I looked in Michigan.
1:36:56
I looked at our home state.
1:36:58
There's a gentleman that wants his accurate TSX restored.
1:37:01
I mean, maybe that's your guy.
1:37:02
I didn't look in New York.
1:37:03
I didn't look there.
1:37:04
Well, I found three of them.
1:37:06
In Europe.
1:37:07
Yeah.
1:37:07
Eric, you're looking for men too?
1:37:09
No, no, no.
1:37:09
Not that kind.
1:37:10
But this is it folks.
1:37:11
It's sort of like the Rolling Stones.
1:37:14
Their final, final, final tour.
1:37:16
Well, guess what?
1:37:16
Top Gear slash the Grand Tour, depending on when you subscribe to
1:37:20
their nonsense, Hammond Clarkson and May are airing their final episode on
1:37:26
September the 13th on Amazon Prime.
1:37:28
They're calling it one for the road.
1:37:30
There's a preview of it on Instagram.
1:37:32
All I can say is I don't know what the hell it's about, but it includes a
1:37:35
Ford Capri, a Lancia Beta Scorpion, and what seems to be a Triumph Stag, and
1:37:40
some sand, and I'm here for all of it.
1:37:42
I didn't even watch the last, like, two or three specials that they came out with.
1:37:46
The Scandi flick is the one to watch.
1:37:49
Spoilers.
1:37:50
The last one I watched was the one with the Evo where May went into the wall.
1:37:54
Yes.
1:37:54
That's the Scandi flick.
1:37:55
I never finished it though.
1:37:56
I only got.
1:37:57
Dude, it gets so much better from that point.
1:37:59
And that point makes you literally jump out of your seat, but it gets better
1:38:03
from there, like better in a bad way too.
1:38:06
One more for the road for Clarkson Hammond and May, September the 13th.
1:38:10
I'm looking forward to it.
1:38:11
They have been together for preview says 22 years, probably longer than that.
1:38:16
They're all going in their own directions.
1:38:17
You know, May's doing is our man and Japan and our man here and all that.
1:38:21
And I think Hammond's back on the radio and.
1:38:24
Clarkson's got Clarkson's Farm, but it's good to have one last
1:38:27
hoorah, because that last grand tour didn't really give anybody closure.
1:38:32
So, I'm thinking hopefully this one will wrap it up, and I'm excited to
1:38:35
see these three cars that they picked.
1:38:37
I have a feeling Hammond's probably driving the Scorpion, because nobody
1:38:41
fits in those things, they're so small.
1:38:43
So it would make sense that he chose that.
1:38:45
And I think those are super cool.
1:38:47
Meanwhile, it's time we go quickly behind the pit wall and So are the
1:38:52
Drama Llamas all rested up and back?
1:38:54
Are we ready to go racing again?
1:38:56
It's weekend.
1:38:57
Where are they this time?
1:38:58
Dutch Grand Prix.
1:38:59
Zandvoort!
1:39:00
We're going to Zandvoort!
1:39:02
So that means Verstappen has to win or he will be excommunicated
1:39:07
from his own country?
1:39:09
I read a whole bunch of different stuff about has Red Bull hit the
1:39:14
ceiling, you know, again, going back to the whole Adrian Newey thing
1:39:17
that the car can't get any better.
1:39:19
Everybody else is finally exceeding all this BS and stuff.
1:39:22
And then there was something about Perez.
1:39:25
His engineer is going on paternity leave.
1:39:29
So there's a shakeup there and a bunch of other stuff that to me just
1:39:33
seemed like drama llama as usual.
1:39:36
I'm so out of touch when it comes to F1 this year, I've watched maybe 20
1:39:40
minutes of a race the entire season.
1:39:43
Was it Monte Carlo?
1:39:44
Because that's all you needed.
1:39:45
No, I think it was 20 minutes cumulatively between several different race beacons.
1:39:51
There's nothing to draw me in.
1:39:53
You know what I mean?
1:39:54
It's just, I, ugh.
1:39:55
I don't have this resource called time.
1:39:58
I don't have much of that anymore.
1:39:59
Yeah, I hear ya.
1:40:00
Uh, I mean, it's been more interesting.
1:40:03
because he hasn't been winning every race there's been a different winner
1:40:06
i think the last six races at least i did see that hamilton won didn't he win
1:40:10
at spa yeah mclaren's been stepping up their game like lando has been more at
1:40:15
the front recently and so you're seeing a little bit more orange on the podium
1:40:19
stuff like that what will be interesting in the next A couple weeks or months or
1:40:23
whatever, however long it takes them.
1:40:25
There's still people that haven't secured their seats for the next year.
1:40:29
So there's still some seat jostling that's going to happen.
1:40:32
And did I see signs as going to Williams?
1:40:35
Yeah.
1:40:35
Yeah.
1:40:36
There were some funny memes about that, actually.
1:40:38
What in the world is going on?
1:40:40
You don't understand that he had to have had offers from like everybody.
1:40:45
And you choose.
1:40:46
Well, next he'll go to Haas.
1:40:47
You know how they show the progression of the caveman over time, like human beings?
1:40:52
Science is going the other way in Formula 1.
1:40:54
No, but I feel like Williams is like the bottom of the bottom.
1:40:57
Haas has got to be worse, come on.
1:41:00
No, I don't think so.
1:41:01
Haas has maybe been doing better this year.
1:41:03
So no, I don't think TAS is the bottom this year.
1:41:06
So maybe, well, I, you know, who I think is the bottom this year?
1:41:09
Sauber.
1:41:10
So that's because they've checked out.
1:41:12
They know Audi's taken over.
1:41:13
What do they care?
1:41:14
Right?
1:41:14
So why blow the budget?
1:41:15
Pick Sauber, jumpstart, stake, A1, Visa, cash cow.
1:41:19
No, that's the other people.
1:41:21
Isn't that the one with Botas?
1:41:22
Botas and the Chinese driver.
1:41:24
Switching to another discipline of racing.
1:41:27
I won't bore you guys to tears about rally.
1:41:29
Rally is exciting.
1:41:31
They got new cars.
1:41:32
The cars are cool, especially the Toyotas.
1:41:34
They're black.
1:41:35
They look super awesome.
1:41:36
Lots of really exciting stuff going on there.
1:41:39
Seb was just knighted.
1:41:40
Well, the French equivalent of being knighted that was back around
1:41:44
the time of the Portuguese rally.
1:41:46
So that was pretty cool, but he's still out there.
1:41:47
I mean, 11 time champion or whatever he is and all this kind of stuff.
1:41:51
So he's still out there battling out.
1:41:52
With the young guys, there's lots of mix ups in WRC.
1:41:55
I will say that Takamoto is doing better.
1:41:57
Although I still wait for a crash every time.
1:42:00
So, you know, it's just whatever, but I will say I kind of took
1:42:03
on a new dimension with rally.
1:42:06
And what I've been doing is following the rally schedule.
1:42:08
I'm getting a little bit caught up because I started late and what I'm trying to
1:42:11
do is run the rally when the rally is happening, and I'm going to do it on my
1:42:15
SIM and then I'm streaming it on Twitch, I'm doing it kind of in a compressed way
1:42:19
because the way the software does it.
1:42:21
So I chose the Hyundai that's Esa Pekka Lappi's car, and I've been
1:42:25
doing that, I've been kind of following along with the series.
1:42:27
So I'm caught up to Sardegna and I need to kind of blast through
1:42:30
the rest of them to get caught up to the schedule where it is now.
1:42:33
But as a bonus, which is why it's taking me longer, is after I complete each of
1:42:37
the rallies, I actually go back and do the full So that's all the stages connected.
1:42:43
So some of these rallies, it's like 13 stages, 15 stages, whatever.
1:42:46
So there's a way to do them all in one shot.
1:42:48
It's usually like a 20 mile run.
1:42:50
It takes literally like a half an hour of nonstop action.
1:42:53
And I do it in a group B car.
1:42:54
So I actually chose the Peugeot 205 T16 kind of sampled all the cars actually
1:42:59
prefer the group a cars in the SIM.
1:43:01
I think they're a lot more fun, but the cool part is.
1:43:04
It's forcing me to do things differently, adapt, get better,
1:43:07
whatever you want to call it, but I'm doing it full manual with the
1:43:10
clutch, no assist, no traction control, stability, any of that kind of stuff.
1:43:14
I do the WRC cars that way too, but they're a lot easier to drive.
1:43:17
So all that stuff up on Twitch.
1:43:19
So twitch.
1:43:20
tv grand touring motorsports.
1:43:21
I'm going to continue to do that kind of following along with the WRC schedule.
1:43:25
Like I said, it just adds a whole nother dimension to the racing and it makes it
1:43:29
more fun because then I get to watch it.
1:43:31
What the drivers are doing and either try to replicate what they're
1:43:34
doing or, Oh, I remember that turn.
1:43:36
I know how difficult that is, you know, those kinds of things.
1:43:39
So again, I think it's pretty cool.
1:43:40
And if you enjoy it, it's available for you up on Twitch.
1:43:44
In WEC IMSA SRO news, the Glenn just happened for IMSA.
1:43:49
One of our favorite events to go to.
1:43:51
That's where Brad's bachelor party was many, many years ago at this point.
1:43:54
And SRO was just there for their World Challenge event.
1:43:57
And NASCAR will be back at the Glen in September.
1:44:00
Don't forget that Petit Le Mans at Road Atlanta is coming up in October.
1:44:04
So that's the end of the IMSA season.
1:44:06
So looking forward to that.
1:44:07
And in other WEC ACO type of news.
1:44:11
We just completed our ninth Evening with a Legend, and that was with Andy Pilgrim.
1:44:17
That's available right now on our Patreon or if you become a member of the
1:44:20
ACO USA in our private Facebook group.
1:44:22
And then it'll be recast later this fall, winter time.
1:44:26
So you can listen to it as part of the Motoring Podcast Network as part
1:44:28
of the Evening with a Legend series.
1:44:30
And then we got a couple more slated.
1:44:32
So we're trying to do one a month of these evening with a legend.
1:44:35
So there's other ones coming and they're really, really cool.
1:44:37
Some really interesting stories specifically about Lamar and Americans
1:44:41
going to Lamar and things like that.
1:44:43
And then if you're an ally of women in motor sports, North America, they are
1:44:47
currently running a sweepstakes for two tickets to next year's Rolex 24
1:44:53
with, I would call it VIP plus status because of all the extras and the
1:44:57
goodies that come with the package.
1:44:59
They're giving you $2,500 towards expenses to like help you get there
1:45:04
and all those kinds of things.
1:45:05
It's a sweepstake, so you're like buying chances to win and the money benefits wna.
1:45:10
So Women in Motorsports, north America, you can check it out on
1:45:13
their website For all the details, how to enter, how it all works.
1:45:16
Women in motorsports na.com for more details on that.
1:45:20
Really, really cool sweepstakes package for the 2025, Rolex 24,
1:45:24
so maybe we'll see you there.
1:45:26
And then some virtual stuff, Lamont ultimate got an update months past kind
1:45:32
of leading up to the 24 hours of Lamont.
1:45:34
We were doing a bunch of shakedowns and time trials and all this kind
1:45:37
of stuff in preparation for the launch event that we did in Detroit
1:45:41
for Lamont ultimate with the ACO.
1:45:43
The latest update includes things like the Lamborghini Hybrid
1:45:46
Hypercar, bunch of other changes.
1:45:48
They're actually adding more of the courses that are in the WEC schedule.
1:45:52
So look forward to things like Coda coming to the sim.
1:45:54
More updates are coming more frequently now as the game's
1:45:57
officially launched, gaining more traction, those kinds of things.
1:46:00
I still enjoy playing it.
1:46:01
I've just been more focused on my WRC stuff for now, but I'm gonna jump
1:46:04
back into LAMA here later in the year.
1:46:06
And then allegedly Aceto Corsa two is coming.
1:46:10
Then again, they've been saying that for like five years.
1:46:12
So I don't put a lot of weight into that right now, but as soon as that
1:46:15
does come out, I'm pretty excited to add that to my library of sim racing.
1:46:20
And if you're interested in talking about sim racing with other sim racers
1:46:23
and people in the industry, don't forget to check out our discord DMS, hit us up
1:46:27
on Facebook, email us, whatever, we'll send you the link it's on our website
1:46:30
and you can jump in on there and share your virtual racing experience with us.
1:46:35
I do want to remind everybody that our Motorsports News is brought to us
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in partnership with the International Motor Racing Research Center.
1:46:40
A couple events coming up on the schedule.
1:46:42
September 12th is the Cameron R.
1:46:44
Argettsinger Award for Outstanding Contributions in Motorsport.
1:46:47
This year's honoree is Zach Brown.
1:46:49
That's the CEO of McLaren Formula One.
1:46:51
You can still buy tickets to attend the event.
1:46:54
So jump over to racingarchives.
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org and click on store to purchase your seat at the table.
1:46:59
And by the way, the IMRRC added an auction to this event.
1:47:03
There are new items being added every week leading up to the awards dinner.
1:47:07
So check the website for those details as well.
1:47:09
On September the 25th, we have another Evening with a Legend that'll be episode
1:47:13
number 10, sponsored by the IMRRC.
1:47:15
It'll be all about the Camaradi Corvette, which its importance and significance in
1:47:20
the history of Le Mans is that it placed 10th overall with a ragtag team from the
1:47:25
United States, and it was one of only four Four Corvettes to finish Lamar in 1960.
1:47:30
So really, really interesting backstory there.
1:47:33
Look forward to an episode on break fix about the history of
1:47:35
the Camarotti Corvette as well, but check out motoring podcast.
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net and then click on shows and then evening with a legend.
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To learn how you can sign up for that live recording of that episode.
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We're going to have Richard Prince on there, Dominic Testa, Charles
1:47:50
Schroedel, a couple other guys that are associated with that car.
1:47:54
Talking about the history of it.
1:47:55
It's important, you know, some Q and A with the audience.
1:47:59
So really, really interesting session there and be sure to catch all
1:48:02
the behind the scenes for Evening with the Legend on our Patreon.
1:48:06
If you haven't heard already, the Michael R.
1:48:08
Argettsinger Symposium on Motor Racing History will be November 1st
1:48:12
through the 2nd at Watkins Glen.
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By the way, the IMRRC has started up their Corvette sweepstakes.
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