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Powerhouse Hollywood Talent Agent David Weintraub Shares the Secrets to Viral Success · Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel

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  Speaker 1: I am so excited for today's episode. We have David Weintraub.
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  Speaker 1: He's a former William Morris Agency and United Talent Agency
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  Speaker 1: trained talent agent who turned his career into being one
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  Speaker 1: of the top manager, producer, creators in the business. He's
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  Speaker 1: the mastermind behind some of the biggest talent deals in
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  Speaker 1: the pop culture scene. and he's produced an impressive number
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  Speaker 1: of TV shows while representing countless celebrities. Weintraub was the
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  Speaker 1: mastermind behind some of the biggest talent deals in the
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  Speaker 1: pop culture scene, and he's produced an impressive number of
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  Speaker 1: TV shows while representing countless celebrities. We will get into
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  Speaker 1: all the details of who he's represented But now it's
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  Speaker 1: your chance to find out how to be a star yourself.
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  Speaker 1: He's sharing his insider knowledge through an exclusive masterclass that
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  Speaker 1: will show you exactly how to achieve fame and go viral.
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  Speaker 1: It's called the Hollywood Handbook. He's here to talk all
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  Speaker 1: about it. And something really exciting also is that I
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  Speaker 1: know I've known David forever. because he was my manager
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  Speaker 1: at one time and got me one of the biggest
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  Speaker 1: deals in reality TV. So he's going to take all
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  Speaker 1: of his expertise, and we are going to have a
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  Speaker 1: conversation about what you can do to break into the business.
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  Speaker 1: Sit back and enjoy this episode with David Weintraub. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for joining me, David. It's been so long. I'm so
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  Speaker 1: happy to see you.
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  Speaker 2: It has been a long time.
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  Speaker 1: You don't age. You look the same that I remember you.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what has it been now? Let's see.
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  Speaker 3: 10 years?
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  Speaker 4: 14 years?
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  Speaker 3: 2009.
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  Speaker 1: 2009. Yeah, I think we met in 2009. We did
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fun, real crazy business in 2010.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a.
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  Speaker 3: That was an interesting year.
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  Speaker 1: So actually, let's tell people how we know each other,
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  Speaker 1: because that's, to me, the most interesting story. I had
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  Speaker 1: been in a little scandal, and I was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: someone who was on front page news, but I really
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  Speaker 1: had become like a recluse. I kind of disappeared for
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. So she says. Yeah, well, and so,
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  Speaker 1: but I got a phone call from you. How did
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  Speaker 1: we meet? Was it through Michael Lohan? I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: remember how we met.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Lindsay Loewen called me and said her dad was going
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  Speaker 3: to call me about something he wanted to do with you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I knew that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. So Lindsay and then Michael and then here we are.
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  Speaker 3: So he called me and he's like, I know this girl.
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  Speaker 3: She's getting a lot of bad press. She's a good person.
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  Speaker 3: I know you're good with, you know, crisis management and
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  Speaker 3: like taking people that are in unique PR situations, and
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  Speaker 3: then getting them into like mainstream work. Right. And I said,
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  Speaker 3: you know, dependently, cause we had, we had kind of
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  Speaker 3: done a lot of that with his daughter at that time.
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  Speaker 3: So he felt like you were right for that. And, uh,
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  Speaker 3: we met and you and I kind of became fast friends.
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  Speaker 3: I And after the intro, I think we talked for
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  Speaker 3: like two hours on the phone. And it was, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I definitely saw a completely different side of who you
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  Speaker 3: were besides what you were being sort of painted in
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  Speaker 3: the media. And I was like, you know what, we
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  Speaker 3: could we could figure something out. There's got to be
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  Speaker 3: something that we could do. And I don't know how
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  Speaker 3: I became like, you know, the crisis management manager, producer person.
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  Speaker 2: But obviously that fall.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll tell you a little bit about that later,
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  Speaker 3: because a lot of people after working with you and
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  Speaker 3: representing you came to me that were in similar situations.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it is.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting because, you know, my life completely changed on Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 1: of 2020. 2009, I guess. And I became a complete recluse.
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  Speaker 1: I lost all family, all friends. Nobody wanted to be
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  Speaker 1: associated with me. I was the top story in all television,
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  Speaker 1: you know, anything media related, I was the top story.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't have social media like we had back then.
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  Speaker 1: So It was just basically what the media was narrating
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  Speaker 1: and then what the public consumption of that was and
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  Speaker 1: how everyone was dying for information on who was I.
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  Speaker 2: You sold a lot of magazine.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, magazine.
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  Speaker 3: The magazine business made a lot of money off of you.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And there was like radar online, I guess. Obviously, there
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  Speaker 1: was TMZ because Harvey Levin was one of the first
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  Speaker 1: people that actually called me in my house the next
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  Speaker 1: night after Thanksgiving. But the way I remember getting introduced
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  Speaker 1: to you is that a lot of people started sliding into...
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  Speaker 1: I guess it was Facebook at the time. I can't
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  Speaker 1: even remember. Or getting my number somehow. And Michael Lohan
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  Speaker 1: was one of them. I did not know him. I
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  Speaker 1: became friends with him. But I had to trust new people.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have anyone in my corner. And you became
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  Speaker 1: one of the people that I trusted. And I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know who to trust, why to trust them. But I
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  Speaker 1: did trust you. And you were like, listen... We have
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  Speaker 1: to change the narrative in some way or at least
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  Speaker 1: capitalize on this so you're not sitting in your bedroom
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  Speaker 1: like just wanting to commit suicide. Because I was a
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  Speaker 1: real person. I was really going through it. But at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, you're like, we have to jump on this.
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  Speaker 6: Remember?
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  Speaker 1: And you got me. The first thing you brought to
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  Speaker 1: me was The Apprentice with Donald Trump. We I had
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  Speaker 1: you were like, Donald Trump's going to call you tomorrow morning. Answer.
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  Speaker 1: Make sure you know what you're saying, how you're going
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  Speaker 1: to reply. You like coached me.
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  Speaker 3: I think we I think we kind of rehearsed it, too, because,
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  Speaker 3: you know, at that time, Apprentice was a number one
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  Speaker 3: NBC show.
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  Speaker 1: The biggest everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: And it was kind of like they were really willing
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  Speaker 3: to take a. very crazy shot because they knew what
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  Speaker 3: kind of attention it would bring to the show. And they,
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  Speaker 3: they were very obsessed with you, you know, Trump, Cohen, Eden,
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  Speaker 3: like the whole main upper echelon, all the people running
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  Speaker 3: the network, everybody was supporting, you know, catapulting you as
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  Speaker 3: a television star. And when I started to get into that,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, well there could be a business here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then we really got, I mean, I really wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do that. We got really into it. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to use the Red Cross as my charity. They had never,
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  Speaker 1: oddly enough, they never had the Red Cross as a charity.
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  Speaker 1: The Red Cross was good to me after September 11th
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  Speaker 1: when I lost my fiance. So I had a real
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  Speaker 1: connection with them. And I really wanted to do that
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  Speaker 1: show because I wanted to show people who I was.
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  Speaker 1: And if they chose not to like me based on
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  Speaker 1: who they saw on television from me representing myself, I
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  Speaker 1: was totally okay with that. But I wasn't okay with
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  Speaker 1: at the time with people just making an assumption from
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  Speaker 1: what the media was gonna narrate. So you really helped
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  Speaker 1: me like steer that. And then you got another offer
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  Speaker 1: from something that you brought to me and you said, well,
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute, I have an offer from Celebrity Rehab.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, David, I'm not an addict. Cause
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't, as you know and can attest. And they
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  Speaker 1: brought to us this topic of love addiction, which I
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  Speaker 1: then learned is a real thing. But I hesitated over
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  Speaker 1: and over.
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  Speaker 3: One little, one little step, because like there's about 15
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  Speaker 3: things that happen in between. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: That moment in that moment.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, if you, if we really, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: do we want to really get in to the weeds here?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like I feel like, I feel like enough time has passed.
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  Speaker 3: So, you know, celebrity rehab is a show that I
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  Speaker 3: was heavily involved with as a, you know, a producer,
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  Speaker 3: a co-developer, someone who packaged all the talent made every episode. Um,
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  Speaker 3: and really was kind of one of my first number
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  Speaker 3: one hits.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, who did you get on that show? Besides me.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's not so much what we got on the show.
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  Speaker 3: It's what we did as producers, casting and development for
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  Speaker 3: the show.
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  Speaker 2: So like Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Drew, John Irwin, myself, Damien Sullivan, we all kind of
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  Speaker 3: made this show happen and produced the show. And I
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  Speaker 3: supplied all the talent. Someone had to deal with the network.
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  Speaker 3: Someone had to deal with Drew. Someone had to deal
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  Speaker 3: with doing the physical. And I had everybody that could
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  Speaker 3: do it. So out of the 90 people that did
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  Speaker 3: the show over 10 seasons, I supplied probably like 75
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  Speaker 3: of the people In the show. So I had to
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  Speaker 3: wear a couple of different hats as a, you know,
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  Speaker 3: producer and as a manager for a lot of people.
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  Speaker 3: And I was in a position where they knew that
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  Speaker 3: you and I had started to work together. VH1 did.
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  Speaker 3: And we the show was cooking. I think it was
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  Speaker 3: season five. We already had three spinoffs. And they were like,
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  Speaker 3: I was kind of playing the we're doing something with
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  Speaker 3: NBC and Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: So from the jump, they knew that if the numbers
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  Speaker 3: didn't get to a certain level, there was going to
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  Speaker 3: be no deal, no shot, no anything.
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  Speaker 2: And they put their best foot forward. I'm talking to start.
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  Speaker 3: It was six figure offers for mind you, this was
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  Speaker 3: only a 20 day shoot in LA, but it was
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  Speaker 3: crazy subject matter. Now both networks at that time, different
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  Speaker 3: than today wanted exclusivity. So NBC would have had you
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  Speaker 3: exclusive for a period of time. VH1 would have had
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  Speaker 3: you for a period of time. So it came down
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  Speaker 3: to what is the right money?
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  Speaker 2: What is the right look? What is the right message?
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  Speaker 3: How are we going to be able to control the narrative?
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  Speaker 3: And we really played everybody against each other to get
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  Speaker 3: the best deal, which was the seven figure, almost seven
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  Speaker 3: figure deal, the highest paid person ever in the history
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  Speaker 3: of the show. But you and I had to be
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  Speaker 3: on the same page about the narrative because of my
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  Speaker 3: involvement with the show on the producing and packaging side.
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  Speaker 2: As well as representing you. And that is.
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  Speaker 3: Where it got very, very tricky because that's a show
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  Speaker 3: that is a self-help show where you have a doctor
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  Speaker 3: who is a doctor, but is also.
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  Speaker 2: A TV star.
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  Speaker 3: So there's a very fine line between being a doctor
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  Speaker 3: and a television star. And that fine line got broken
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  Speaker 3: a lot of times in the many episodes that we did.
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  Speaker 3: And the other thing I would say is, I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 3: we schemed that. That was a complete fabricated scheme.
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  Speaker 1: Because I wasn't an addict.
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  Speaker 3: You were not an addict.
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  Speaker 2: You drank a little bit, I think.
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  Speaker 1: No, I took Ambien.
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  Speaker 2: I took Ambien. It was Ambien. I remember like the Ambien.
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  Speaker 1: It was like a prescription pill thing, but I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: really into it.
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  Speaker 3: He took all the shit that was on the floor
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  Speaker 3: and crafted this story that was really pretty crazy.
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  Speaker 1: But I do want to put into perspective for people.
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  Speaker 1: I was someone who was not famous. All of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: I became the most famous person ever. at the time
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  Speaker 1: sort of on the planet being spoken about. And it
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  Speaker 1: was crazy for me and lonely. And I had no
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  Speaker 1: idea what to do. And for me, in my mind,
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  Speaker 1: fixing the narrative was the biggest thing on my mind
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  Speaker 1: and getting a friend who could help me with that
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  Speaker 1: narrative was really important. But I remember when you brought
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  Speaker 1: me celebrity rehab, I was like, I'm not an addict.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not doing the show with a bunch of addicts.
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  Speaker 1: Cause that's not like how I want to be perceived.
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  Speaker 1: But we, you and I had a meeting.
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  Speaker 2: You did like money.
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  Speaker 1: I did like money.
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  Speaker 2: Who doesn't? I came with bags.
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  Speaker 3: I came with the big, big, big stupid bags that
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  Speaker 3: nobody had.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And we had a good bag from NBC, but it
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  Speaker 3: was not going to be that level. Right. And you
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  Speaker 3: had to do, you had to make a decision of like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to, I'm going to take this opportunity and
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  Speaker 3: we're going to do that.
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  Speaker 1: But I will say, cause it has to do with
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  Speaker 1: something about how we had a falling out. We had
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  Speaker 1: drinks or not drinks, but we had a meeting with Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Drew the night before and, it started to air. And
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  Speaker 1: I was like... No, you're.
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  Speaker 2: Already telling the story.
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  Speaker 6: Am I wrong?
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  Speaker 2: You're already telling the story.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you are.
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  Speaker 6: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
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  Speaker 6: for it?
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  Speaker 7: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
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  Speaker 7: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
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  Speaker 6: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
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  Speaker 4: It's Dune ADL.
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  Speaker 6: Where?
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  Speaker 4: Dune ADL. There's an accent on the E.
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  Speaker 6: Do you mean.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I got it on Dune Deal cars.
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  Speaker 3: Lift?
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  Speaker 2: Please.
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  Speaker 6: You're going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 7: Don't deal cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, tell me what happened. I thought it was the
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  Speaker 1: night before.
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  Speaker 2: I pulled the receipts last night, okay? Oh, God, tell me.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I love this.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, see this board? No, I'm just kidding. Okay, so
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  Speaker 2: we did something fucking really gnarly. Really, really gnarly.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so Donald Trump, originally we put you together with
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  Speaker 3: Donald to talk.
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  Speaker 2: About the show. And he said, I want you in
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  Speaker 2: the show.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to tell NBC to put you in the show, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
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  Speaker 3: deal with Michael Cohen, deal with Eden Gaha.
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  Speaker 2: Who is the executive producer of the show and let's
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  Speaker 2: get it done.
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  Speaker 3: At the same time, we were negotiating and talking about
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  Speaker 3: it and trying to get a contract done, which we
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  Speaker 3: had a full contract, NBC Universal offer, and we're getting ready.
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  Speaker 3: And VH1 was watching us from afar, what we were doing,
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  Speaker 3: because we were starting to be seen, and people were
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  Speaker 3: talking about you and I working together, and my partners
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  Speaker 3: knew that we were working together. And they said, we
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  Speaker 3: want her. We'll do anything to get her.
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  Speaker 2: We need her. Blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, if you need her, you're going to
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  Speaker 3: need fucking seven figures. Um, and, uh, that was going on.
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  Speaker 3: So we, we, we had a meeting at the L'Hermitage
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  Speaker 3: hotel that we did a double meeting.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm going to really go wild with you. And
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  Speaker 3: I said to you, because of the level of controversy
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  Speaker 3: that we were dealing with at that point, that we
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  Speaker 3: had to be protected with content, um, photos, video, everything.
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  Speaker 3: And we had a very dear friend, photo specialists. who
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  Speaker 3: works in licensing, who built a book. If you remember,
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  Speaker 3: he had a book.
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  Speaker 2: I do remember.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 2: That had a camera in it.
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  Speaker 3: And we had to place them like close by to
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  Speaker 3: get the content so that we would, it would never be,
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  Speaker 3: anything would ever be said differently about what happened. So
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  Speaker 3: we had, we, we did a double meeting. We had
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  Speaker 3: a meeting with the executive producer of the Celebrity Apprentice, Eden.
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  Speaker 3: who was Trump and Michael's, you know, their guy. And
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  Speaker 3: then we had Drew come in right as Eden was
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  Speaker 3: leaving so that they would see that we were really
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  Speaker 3: in business with NBC and ready and that they had
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  Speaker 3: to get to a certain level on that show. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even remember this part because you were orchestrating
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  Speaker 1: this and I was.
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  Speaker 3: Just like, well, I mean, I just I knew that
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  Speaker 3: I had to protect everything and that everything had to
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  Speaker 3: be transparent I know that doesn't sound like it's transparent
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  Speaker 3: but it had to be because there was you know
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  Speaker 3: there was so much going on yeah and like we
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  Speaker 3: couldn't we we had to make sure our deals would
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  Speaker 3: make we had to make sure that nobody thought that
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  Speaker 3: we were doing something against what one network wanted us
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  Speaker 3: to do so it was really a record keeping thing
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  Speaker 3: um and when you're dealing with like a crisis management
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  Speaker 3: kind of talent which you you were and the infamously
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  Speaker 3: of what you were dealing with, I had to make
• 16:27
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  Speaker 2: Granted those that all that content did come out.
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  Speaker 3: Um, and it was, I, I, do you remember that
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: there was like a lot of stuff about people were
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: always like, Oh, Rachel has a crush on Dr.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I remember that because it came out when I was
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: in the rehab and I was so upset And I,
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  Speaker 1: I felt like this is such a, like people don't
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  Speaker 1: get it because I really was there. I needed the help.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I was such a recluse. I was so upset, but
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I was not dealing with the stuff that had to
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: do with Tiger. I was really dealing with like things
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: in my past, losing my dad from a drug overdose
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: and losing my fiance from September 11th. Those were things
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: I really was there to deal with. And then I
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: was kind of keeping the house together. I don't, I mean,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you ended, did you end up
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: ever watching the season? Cause I know you were.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Mad at me.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: I was involved in everything. Okay.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Well, but I took it seriously. And then I saw,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I would see these things.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: You took it too seriously.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: And that's, that's where you and I had to, I had.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: To fire you.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Um, I couldn't work with you after that.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Um, But let's remember, I was just a normal person.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: I know, but you were normal enough to understand that
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: we had a plan.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And that I got you the biggest bag, besides your
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: other bag that you got, but I got you the
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: biggest bag that you ever got in your fucking life.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: And we had a plan and then you deviated from
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: that plan. And the problem with that was that I.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Couldn't trust you anymore.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Because you, like my clients and I, I have clients
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: that I still represent like Rage Day and Too Short.
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  Speaker 3: People that have been with me for almost 20 years. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And we've orchestrated everything. Right.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: They were there then. You know what I mean?
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: And I was like, I just can't be involved in
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: this shit. Because what kind of happened was, is you
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: knew that my role as a producer and you knew
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: my role as a manager and I get to get
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: paid as a manager. You get to get paid on
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: both sides, no matter what, how the business operates. There's no,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: it's how it works. And you did some funny business
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: with the money, you know, where you tried to hold
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: up payments for a very long time while you were
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: in there drinking the Kool-Aid. Yeah. And I was like, listen,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: you're in this fictitious world where you all of a sudden,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: like the first time you're doing a television show and
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: especially a television show at that time of that magnitude.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: It was like, you, you don't know how famous you're
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: going to become. You don't know what the outcome of
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: the show is going to be. And you sort of
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: become this family with the people in there and you're
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: not talking to the rest of the world. And, and
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: it just became very shocking. Luckily are, we had a
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: very good mutual.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Attorney that was involved. It was a very big time attorney. Now,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: as you know, Josh, he's amazing.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: And we and we were able to, you know, settle everything.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: But it just I felt very burnt by you for
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: a very, very, very long time. I was very upset
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: with you because also the month before we did all
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: these deals as they were coming together, as you got
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: as we were figuring it out. Too Short and I
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: came to the Hamptons before the July.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: And we all hung out.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: And I took you to a big event that we
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: were that I was throwing and um I felt like
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: we I felt like we had a good like understanding
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: of like how I operated how you operated yeah and
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: I just felt really like just I was like how
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: could this Everything that people said about you, I was like, well, OK,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: now I see it. Yeah. You know, I feel bad. Listen,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: it's taken us a long time to get here. And
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I think that we have to be real about things
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: that have happened because business goes both ways. There is
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: a upside and a downside to businesses, you know, and
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: part of what I'm here to talk about with my,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: you know, with the Hollywood handbook and my new virtual
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: training program.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Program is about the business.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: And this is one side of it that you always
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: have to have great contracts. You always have to have
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: great attorneys.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: But I think that's important, especially the fact that you're
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: getting into this Hollywood handbook thing. I was an example
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: of somebody who was like, not an everyday person. I mean,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I had a big job. in the nightlife industry where
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I was involved with a lot of celebrities. So people
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: knew me before this happened, but not on an international level.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: And then I started to work with you and you
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: started to give me opportunities and help me understand that
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: there was a brand involved. I think what I got
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: caught up at the moment with is that, you know,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I was still dealing with my emotional reaction to being
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: that famous that quickly. How, how, much I, you know,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: how I felt so alone. And so I was, I
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: was looking for people to trust. And when I went
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: into that house of celebrity rehab, I took it so seriously.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: They became my family, people I trusted. And it wasn't
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: that I was trying to, you know, do anything to
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: hurt you or make you think I was a bad person.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Cause I really wasn't. It was just that I didn't
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: know I didn't know how cunning you have to be
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: in that business also.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: Now I know.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: And at the time, we were cunning and we got
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: into it and we were a great team. But at
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the same time, I was dealing with a lot of
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: emotional issues of how to get through it. Because becoming
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: famous like that is not easy. and can take a
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: major toll on somebody's mental health. And I think I
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: just came so quickly and I really regretted how we
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: ended our relationship back then, which is obviously why in
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the past I've got back in touch with you and
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: tried to work it out with you because, you know,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I was just going through a lot and it wasn't
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: that I was trying to do anything wrong with you.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: I think that that's a very tough show to do
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: for 21 Days. Any show that you have to move
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: out of your life and go and be in that
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: show and live in the show for 24 hours a day,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: even though it was only a 21 day shoot, that
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: was a difficult one. It wasn't like you were living
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: at the Four Seasons or you were like in a rehab,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: you're at your task, they wanna push your buttons. People
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: are doing weird shit. A lot of funny, weird stuff
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: happens in that show. So it's not your prototypical like
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: celebrity show. Like that's why when we made the show,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: people never believed that we would ever be able to
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: make it. And then for it to be a number
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: one hit and go on and make hundreds of episodes,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: international licenses and be like, you know, be one of
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: my first number one hits.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: That was a big, big deal. What I will say
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: is that.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: You have to always stay the course and in business,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I think you had to have learned that because there
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: was a lot of things that we could have done
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: post that show that we never did get an opportunity
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: to do. And I know like, you know, look, you
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: always wanted to be on the housewives. You always wanted
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: to be in some of these other bigger branded, you.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Know, content. And, you know, I, I have put, I've
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: made a lot of housewives. I represent a lot of housewives.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I've made that come true for a lot of people.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: So, um, you know, we, we, we learned, we learned
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: a tough lesson, but let's not talk about 2010. You
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? 2010 is a long time ago.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: We've obviously talked a lot of this through and I've
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: always been straight up with you about how I feel.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: And I've always kind of told you where I thought
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: that you were in the world as far as like
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: value for celebrity opportunities, because there was a lot of
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: narratives that we had to change.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I think what you're doing now with this show is
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: has really been helpful.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: And I told you when you called me about it originally,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I said, I said, get to X and then I'll
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: come and I'll bring Y. And you got to X
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: and I immediately gave you Y. You wanted people, you wanted,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: you know, and I, and so it is a timing.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Thing, you know?
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: And that's important for a lot of people to remember.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: So before getting into like who you represent and all
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: this stuff and who you are as a person, I
• 24:10
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• 24:14
  Speaker 1: because it can take someone that is involved in some
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: sort of a scandal or not even, just people that
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: have a brand and they want to blow up. So
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: you now are forming a company where you are almost
• 24:25
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• 24:30
  Speaker 1: become famous. Tell everybody about that because I think that
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• 24:35
  Speaker 3: You have a couple of the points of it, but yeah,
• 24:38
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• 24:41
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think that we're going to have a
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• 32:46
  Speaker 3: It's interesting that you say that because, so I taught
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: two semesters at USC in the film school.
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: Oh, wow.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: We had a, we had a program.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I went to USC. We had a program where it
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: was called from pitch to pilot. And from pitch to
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: pilot is actually a segment in the Hollywood handbook. And
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: basically a lot of people that were coming out of
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: the film school, they were that want to be directors.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: They were getting jobs working on my reality shows. So
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: we were hiring them to be editors. So the film
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: school wanted to have a program where people could learn
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: everything you need to know in the.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Reality business simply. And that's what from pitch to pilot was.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: And out of each program, you know, 30 students that
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: were in the class, everybody had to do their own
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: pilot in each of the semesters.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: We took one of the shows and we took it
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: to market.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: One of the shows we actually sold to pilot didn't
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: get picked up at the series, but it was to
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: really demonstrate every step along the way.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: We had great speakers.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Like, you know, all the heads of networks and all
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: the heads of these big production companies.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: And we taught these kids a lot.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: It seems like everyone in Hollywood or anywhere really has
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: an idea for something. What do you think really sets
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: apart an idea that takes it to that next level?
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Well, I like to think that a lot of ideas
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: are what we call OMP.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: OMP is of most pitched. So people are like, I
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: got this, I got that.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: I've heard pretty much like every idea under the sun
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: in the non-scripted pop culture space. The question becomes the
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: talent that's involved, the personalities that's involved, and how do
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: you build a vehicle around them that you can take
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: to market and that the market will react to and
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: the market will want to catapult. So ideas are many
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: and a lot that you can find. It's the people
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: who star in those shows. For me, I love big,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: loud personalities.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: I love family businesses.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: I love, um, be, be celebrities that want to reinvent
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: and go to be a list again. I love, people
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: like that that want to get into reinventing themselves because
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: there is a market for that the streamers wanted obviously
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: listen if ben affleck and jennifer lopez want to do
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: a reality show and i was privileged to partner with
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: them to go do that show that's a big hit
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: from the jump but a lot of the people that
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: want to get into the non-scripted business are looking for
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: a resurgence in their careers and trying to get back
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: out there. And it can happen and it can explode.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: And obviously like, listen, you know, one of the first
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: clients that we ever had, you know, we worked with
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: the Osbournes and those guys, that was a perfect example
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: of doing that.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: And then they opened up the doors for everybody else,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: including the Kardashians.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I think what people don't realize is the people that
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: stay in the business for the longest amount of time
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: are people that really take on this chameleon role of
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: like constantly reinventing themselves, the brand. There's some sort of
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: scandal that goes on and then they do what they
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: need to do to get out of it and then
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: move up and move forward. The Kardashians have been a
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: a major contributor to that whole chameleon mindset because they're
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: constantly reinventing themselves. And I think a lot of people
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: pigeonhole themselves to think like, this is what I'm good at.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: This is my brand. And then they don't think about
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: how they can explore that or take it to the
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: next level. So I think that is a really... big
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: part of it. What about so many people are obsessed
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: with Bravo and the housewives. What do you think makes
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: a good housewives? Like the New York housewives are all
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: new cast. You know, how are they picking their cast?
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Do you think, and why do people fall in love
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: with certain shows and not others?
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Um, Bravo has been an incredible partner and brand with
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: my company. And we've represented lots of housewives from Orange County,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: New Jersey, Beverly Hills, uh, um, New York, no one
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: on Atlanta, Washington, DC, Dallas. We've got a lot of
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: different people in that sphere. The thing is the process
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: is cutthroat. I mean, it's the most cutthroat thing in
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: the world because they really vet you, you know, they
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: make straight offers to big names that will never do
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: the show. And those people that will never do the show,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: They do that just because it's like we're taking a
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: shot in the dark. And they'll call me about people
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: that I'm like, you're completely unrealistic that this person would
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: ever do their show. Now, it's not because it's a
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: bad show. It's just because they're big enough to have
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: their own show. So there's a wide range of how
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: you pick the talent and everybody is involved.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: You and I have talked about this.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: You've obviously been through a little bit of the process.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: We've spoken in depth with Bravo, with Andy, with the
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: production companies about you. And there has been times that
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: there's been like an openness to you being in the show.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: And then for whatever reason, you know, it's the politics
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: of the game and.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: It's really cutthroat.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's, it's, it's really crazy, but if you
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: can do it, you can be a huge star. Now
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I will say on the other side of it, because
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: the biggest mega shows in the game right now, obviously
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: like the Selling Sunsets and the Bling Empires and the.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: 90 Day Fiances.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's still the staples that are going to
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: be like Kardashians, Housewives, Love and Hip Hop. You know,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: those are the brands. Like those are the biggest brands.
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: for it?
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. they have
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: You have to put me in touch what's it called it's.
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: Dune ideal where dune ideal there's an accent on the
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: e do you mean yes i got it on done
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: deal cars lift please you're going past kimaj oh kimmage
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: no done deal cars you couldn't possibly.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Go anywhere else one to make the most money um
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: we are heavily involved in those shows. Obviously, you know,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Ray J who has been with me for 20 years
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: is my, you know, I manage him and he's, I'm
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: his producing partner.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: You know, he's the highest paid guy in all of
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: love and hip hop.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: So that's so interesting to me because he's, I mean,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: he is a household name, but not really. I mean,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, Nick Cannon maybe is up
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: for the same roles that he might be up for,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: but I don't know. I just feel like Ray J
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: kind of stays under the radar, yet he's everywhere.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, under the radar, you know, we have.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: We have a show on, we have five shows on
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: five different networks right now. So you might not be
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: watching them, but like our audience is watching them.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: Which is great.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's amazing that he's getting all these roles.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: You know, and that's a long time coming as a host,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: as an actor, as a, you know, reality podcast. Like
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: he's got a lot of different jobs and all of
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: these jobs, you know, feed the machine.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: For what the end goal is, which is.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: To sell products.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: So do you think that, so what was he doing
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: when that sex tape came out? Was he like somebody
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: big and famous and doing TV before then, or that
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: catapulted him into doing all this stuff?
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Well, his sister is Brandy. He's sold millions of records
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: and he was on television and, um, Kim, you know,
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: was Kim and Kim worked for Brandy and that was
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Ray's girlfriend. Right.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: So, but I mean, obviously.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: That was a very calculated, you know, as we calculated
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: your play, that was extremely calculated between Ray and Kim
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: and Chris and all of the things that they wanted
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: to achieve.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Which obviously they did because there have been other things
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: that have backfired for people. I mean, tell people the
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: difference between, you know, Pamela Anderson's sex tape that she
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: feels like derailed her and pigeonholed her into being this,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: you know, in a very sexual way that she could
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: never move beyond that. Whereas somebody like Kim has become
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: an A-list star and Ray J who is obviously on
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: five different shows. Like what happened there that's different, do
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: you think?
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Um, well, I mean, it was timing, you know, the
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: sex tape business, nobody had an understanding of how to
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: use it as a marketing tool until Paris did. And
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: until Kim and Ray did now Paris, you know, was
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: the trial and then Kim and Ray were the experts.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: And the expertise that came from that created a 250
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: plus million dollar tape that everybody made money off of
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: that also created huge industries for their families and their
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: celebrity and everything. So you have to know how to
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: monetize it. And it's I mean, Chris knew it. Chris
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: knew where it was going. And, you know, there was
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: a lot of. a lot of people that help put
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: the whole thing together. Right. And there's documentaries being made
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: about it right now. And, you know.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Monetizing a scandal is probably the best thing you can
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: learn from because a lot of people don't. And then
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: what I see nowadays is so many people trying to
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: create a scandal to get some money. And I think
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: that backfires too, because it has to be, there has
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: to be some sort of reality to it.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Creating a scandal is a very dangerous thing. You can
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: destroy your life, your family, your children. Yeah. it is
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: a really dangerous thing to do and you have to
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: be very careful. You know, the, the crisis management talent
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: and I've worked with a number of them, you know,
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: like people that came that were in trouble in the media,
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: like Farrah Abraham and Courtney Stodden and Sarah Palin and
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Levi Johnston. And, you know, they, there is a media
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: play that like, is very dangerous and you have to
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: understand that it can actually just.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Completely ruin your life.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: So, you know, there is a fine line. Right.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: So, all right. Talk to me about some of the
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: other guys that you represent. Obviously we talked about too short.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: He's remained in the news since I've known you. So
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: is he going back on tour? Talk to me about him.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: We have a tour starting.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: On Saturday with Snoop Dogg, 70 dates over the summer,
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: all arenas.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Wiz Khalifa, Too Short.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Warren G, Burner, DJ Drama, all arenas, all across the country,
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: big dollars, you know, having a great, it's going to
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: be great. Yeah. Go check it out. You're going to
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: have a wonderful time. And then, you know, obviously we
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: have the Mount Westmore group and with Ice Cube, Snoop, E-40,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: which had a big year. We were on tour all
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: the last year. Big album came out. And then Tushar
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: and I are executive producing a movie called Freaky Tales,
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: which is directed and written by Fleck and Bowden, who
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: were the writers and directors of Captain Marvel.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Um, highest grossing, uh, Marvel movie of all time.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: And, uh, this movie is kind of like a, uh,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: a movie based loosely on.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: 1980s folklore of Oakland.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: That's based around two shorts music.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: And it's really crazy. Pedro Pascal is in it.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Um, uh, Ben Mendelsohn, uh, Angus cloud, um, You know,
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: it's Tom Hanks. It's going to.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Be really interesting when it comes out.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Well, the movie is just being finished now and all
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: of it, it was financed by E1. So it will
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: be out theatrically next year, but I can't reveal any
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: of the details about that just yet.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: But Freaky Tales is coming.
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: So getting back to a question about the Hollywood handbook
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: for a second, a lot of people that have become
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: famous right now, it's not household names. I mean, there
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: are people that are influencers that have 2 million, 5 million,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: 7 million followers who, if I asked anyone.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: But you said household name to who? Household name to you?
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm going to get to.
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, household names to maybe not the general public,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: but like Gen Z, like, you know, millennial people. It's
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: a totally different, you know, you might ask my daughter,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: she'll know everyone you talk about. She would know who
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Tana is, for example. But like, I don't know them
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: and I'm trying to figure out how they got this
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: many followers, why so many people are obsessed with them.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Because it's interesting to me because they have so many deals,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: they have so much money and that's who people are
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: really putting their money in, in terms of um, supporting
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: and backing as opposed to someone who may have quote
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: unquote real talent, who's got, you know, studied forever to
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: be an actor or a singer. And all of a
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: sudden somebody become, can become famous in their bedroom, um, representing,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: you know, just getting ready in the morning or representing
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: a music brand or a, or a, you know, skincare line.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: So talk to me about influencers and how important they
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: are in, in today's culture.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Well, influencers are the next evolution of pop culture stars,
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: which I would say are the reality stars, which were
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: people that like, you know, were famous for being famous
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: or famous for being on an interesting show and turning
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: that into a business. But now you, like I said,
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: you have everything in your phone and your computer, so
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: you can sit in your bedroom and create a YouTube
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: channel and if your content is funny, interesting, unique, over
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: the top, you can turn that into a business. And
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: our expertise with the Hollywood Handbook and my experience representing.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Some of the biggest influencers in the world is.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Taking how we deal with those businesses, how we create influencers,
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: sign influencers, get them deals, get them brand integration and
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: the catapult them to the next level. But you also
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: have to remember that there is this whole thing of
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: how they started and how they started is literally shooting
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: and talking to their camera, talking straight into the camera
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: and doing something and learning how to edit it and
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: tag it and, you know, get your content, out there
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: to the public so that you can go viral. And
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: going viral time after time after time created this new
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: industry where brands wanted to be a part of understanding
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: your analytic, your likes, your comments, your numbers, and then
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: bring you deals to integrate into the content itself and
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: then get paid. And then you have this whole other
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: industry of getting paid to post, you know, you're basically
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: like you have brands that want you to have, you know,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: here's mountain Valley water, you know, give me a bag.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Like it's, it's, it's, it's, it can happen organically. You
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: may think it's natural. You may think it's like, it
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: could look contrived, but like, there's so many ways that
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: you can take brand integration and take influencers and marry
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: them together. And the money is out of control because
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: everything is based on an analytical. So your analytic is
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: so important because it literally constitutes to what a buyer
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: or a brand will pay you to do something based
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: on your numbers, based on how many followers you have,
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: your engagement, likes, comments, all that stuff.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: And there is a formula.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: But how many of these people are wannabes that are
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: like paying for followers? Because I know that's a big business.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: People have dropped shit in my DM all the time.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Real brands know if.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: if the followers are fake and the engagement is fake
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: and if the bots are fake, I mean, you can
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: look at the followers and understand that. So it's not
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: hard to figure it out. People that like, you know,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: have 5 million followers and only have 25 comments, like
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: it's fake.
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: You bought them. It's not real.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Like if you had 5 million followers, you would probably
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: have an average of like 600 comments. Right.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Okay. You probably have, you know, 30,000 likes. There's a formula.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: There's an analytic breakdown. It's a mathematics numbers game. And
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: once you understand the numbers game, which we do in
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: the Hollywood handbook, we'll teach you about the numbers game
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: and how to monetize it. Then you can actually take
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: your platform, your social media, your content, your talent, and
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: exploit it.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Right. But you got to learn it. You got to
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: understand that.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: And that's the biggest thing that you said, though, you
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: have to have some sort of a talent. You have
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: to have some sort of personality. Like, I mean, there
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: are people that are amazing TikTok stars, but Addison Rae
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: and Charli D'Amelio stood out for a while back that,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years ago during pandemic or whatever,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: my daughters were, my daughter was obsessed with the both
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Them.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: And then they got a show, right? I mean, Addison
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Rae became the lead in a movie and, and Charli
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: got her own reality show. Now, I don't know how
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: well those did because I don't know if they can
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: translate their personality into into something bigger than that. And
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: I think Charlie had a little bit of a breakdown
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: on her show because she couldn't handle it. So people
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: are really good at some things and not good at others.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: And it's taking that diamond in a rough to make
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: them famous.
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: So to speak.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: And you're good at finding that talent.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: There's many of those out there. Those are two examples
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: that have really crossed over into... obviously the news that
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: you read, which is like Us Weekly and TMZ and
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Page Six, because they're talking about there, but there is
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: a whole other world of value there. Like I do
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: a lot of deals with Amazon and Amazon has a
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: huge budget to pay influencers to market movies, TV shows,
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: and in-house products and stuff that they're pushing.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: And the budgets are crazy and they'll.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: Go after very unique niche markets of influencers and, you know,
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: various beauty and wellness spaces and, yoga and sports, and
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: as well as the big loud ones, like, you know,
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: the Trisha Paytas is of the world and the, you know,
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: and the, and the Tana's of the world. So there
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: is a wide variety of that. You know, Tana's a
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: great example because Tana, Tana is the kid who grew
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: up on the YouTube generation of literally making crazy videos
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: in her room on a computer and literally fine tune
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: that from the time she was 15 to now.
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: Be the car is beautiful. Where did you end up
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: going for it?
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 50:55
  Speaker 7: more cars for more dealerships than, like, anywhere else.
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: It's Dunaidial.
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: Where? Dunaidial.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: There's an accent on the E.
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: Do you mean.
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: Yes, I got it on Dundial Cars.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Lift?
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: Please. Are you going past Kimmage?
• 51:13
  Speaker 7: Oh, Kimmage.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: No.
• 51:16
  Speaker 7: Dundial Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: In her young 20s, And making millions of dollars.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: But how did she even start? Like, how did she
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: even know to do that?
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: She was making crazy, funny, weird videos doing weird shit
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: in her bedroom in Las Vegas.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: And people just kept following her and following her and
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: she started to get.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: People were following her.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: People wanted to learn about her. She was in her
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: room making content. And, you know, she mastered it. Listen,
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: to do it from the jump organically, you have to
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: be an editor. You have to be a director. You
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: have to be a lighting expert. You have to know
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: how to do your makeup. You have to be your
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: own stylist. You have to have a point of view.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Your point of view is the most important thing that
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: you have. As an influencer, you have to be able
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: to be like, I am different. And my tone is different.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: What I'm doing is different. My house is different. My
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: experience is different. My life view is different.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: And not be influenced by what other people want to see.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: I think what makes Tana interesting is that she just
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: follows what she thinks is important. And she wants to
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: talk about, and she doesn't deviate based on what she
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: thinks people.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Want to hear. Being an original, you know, content creator,
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: you're setting trends.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of people doing that.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Tana's been a great client. I love her like
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: a sister and she's been, you know, we've done really
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: well together and I'm very proud of her, you know, podcasts, alcohol, lingerie. Cannabis,
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: you know, movies, television, reality, hosting, events.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: And what's her target audience? Who's following her? Because she's
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: got like over 5 million people on Instagram.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: She has over 30 million followers aggregately between TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: And this is people in their late teens, early twenties.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: That's where we go back to the analytic because looking
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: at Instagram, Instagram is one metric. Yeah. So you got
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: to understand when you're talking to a buyer, you have
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: to sell the Instagram metric, right? The TikTok metric and
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: value system, how they pay there is.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: A completely different business.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: I'm an expert in breaking down every one of these,
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: looking at budgets, looking at brands and creating these deals.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: The thing with her is that She might get one
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: number for Instagram, one number for TikTok, one number for YouTube,
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: or one number for all of them. So it's all
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: a different play. The other thing that we haven't even
• 53:37
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• 53:42
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• 53:48
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• 53:55
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• 54:00
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• 54:06
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• 54:07
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• 54:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you're hot and cool and interesting and
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• 54:22
  Speaker 1: And don't you have a company that helps with that
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• 54:27
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• 54:56
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• 55:00
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• 55:02
  Speaker 3: It depends on what you're going to do.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Listen, I'm not above wanting to make some money. So,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: you know, but I'm not about to like, you know,
• 55:13
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• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Off topic.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: But I've interviewed a lot of girls that have had
• 55:20
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• 55:24
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• 55:31
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• 55:36
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• 55:40
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• 55:43
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• 55:49
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• 55:57
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• 55:59
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• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
• 56:01
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• 56:02
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• 56:07
  Speaker 3: You have to have an original point of view. You
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: have to be doing content that people want to see.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: You do have to have somewhat of a following. I mean,
• 56:14
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• 56:18
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• 56:20
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• 56:26
  Speaker 3: done it, you've been in Playboy, like it's not going
• 56:30
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• 56:33
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• 56:37
  Speaker 3: And there's a fine line that she walks.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: Without, she wants to do it.
• 56:42
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• 56:42
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• 56:45
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• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Shayna is, if we could get Shayna another gigantic TV show,
• 56:54
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And I wanted to get back to one other question.
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  Speaker 1: If somebody that wants to work with you doesn't have,
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people will be intimidated by
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: the fact that they don't have a big presence on TikTok, Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have all these followers. Can you help them
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: create a brand without having that already to bring to
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: the table?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: Well, the Hollywood Handbook is designed to help people that
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: really don't have anything yet.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: That's one part of it, to build that.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: And then I might be able to really help them.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: But we have to start with understanding the basics of
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: the business and the basics of honing in on your
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: talent and developing your social media, developing your numbers, developing
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: a little bit of PR. because you can't just come
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: from out of nowhere today and become a star. You
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: have to have a little bit of the analytic that
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: we're talking about, which is the numbers that provides a
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: value system for what I can do with the brands
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: and the money and the representation and walking you to
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: the next level. So there is a lot of that
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: that has to be done.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: It doesn't happen.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: Overnight, but if you start today, you put in the hours,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: you do the content, you're going to do it. I mean, Rachel,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: you understand like, 10 years ago when you and I
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: started working together, we were a complete expert in that field.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: So in the 10 years since that, we're.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Complete experts in the evolution of this game. I've evolved
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: every year with what the business is. Right. The game has.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Changed so much.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: And you've been there every step. And that's what I
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: was saying in my intro about you before is that
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: you are the guy behind the guy and always have been.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: And not only that, like you started way back and
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I'll let you, you know, tell more about the details,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: but you were working at UTA or William Morris, you
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: were working in all these places and then became the
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: reality star that like... people were like you were signing.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: So which must've been a whole other set of drama.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: What was that like being someone behind the scenes and
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden being someone in front of
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: the camera?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: You know, I think as a executive in Hollywood, you
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: have one set of understanding of the game, which is
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: like put on your suit and tie, get in your
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: nine 11 turbo, go to the premieres, go to the meeting,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: sign the clients, make the deals, And then there's the
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: reality of like what that life is. And like everybody
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: watched Entourage and everybody watched, you know, The Simple Life.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: And like we were really living those lives behind the
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: scenes organically. And there just became a time where it
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: was like, hey, let's show this world what we're doing.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: And Sons of Hollywood, you know, was a show I created,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: executive produced and starred in 20 episodes for A & E.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: You can buy the DVD, it streams and You know,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: it was a great show. Me, Randy Spelling, my best
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: friend and my other best friend, Sean Stewart. And it was,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: you know, the real like inside of the reality of
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: like kids trying to make it in Hollywood that had
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: a lot of notoriety, a lot of money, a lot
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: of power. And that was a real documentary. It took
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: seven months to shoot. My partner who who directed and
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: did all the physical production was J.T. Taylor, who did
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: the Osbournes creator, executive producer of the Osbournes. And, you know,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Scott Disick met Courtney during the show. And then we
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: wound up representing Scott and making, you know, so like
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: a lot of things happened as a result of that show.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: It opened up so many doors and it gave me
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: the creds that I want. I wanted to be an
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: executive producer. I wanted to be a creator. Aaron Spelling
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: was my godfather. So like, I wanted to be a creator.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: of a TV show. I wanted to learn that because
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: that's where the money was. That's where the game was.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: And once you start to get those credits, that's when
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: you can then branch out. I had to be in
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: the shows, you know, the network saw me. Oh, the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: network always saw me for both. Um, I mean, even
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: for celebrity rehab, weirdly, even though I wasn't in that
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: much of it, um, they always saw me as a narrator.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: Like I know how to tell your story. I know
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: how to get you from A to B and I'm
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: kind of the glue that binds everybody. So like even
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: Hollywood Hillbillies, where we took a YouTube influencer and his
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: family and did a reverse simple life for 80 episodes
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: for reels. You know, I told the story of signing
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: this kid, getting him a record deal, putting him with
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: rappers and having this crazy redneck family follow us everywhere
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: we go. And it was utter comedy. I never even
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: thought I mean, at that time, I had so many
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: different shows that I was involved in. When that became
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: a hit, I was just blessed, you know, because sometimes
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: you can't you can't think too much about it. Like
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: I thought that Sons of Hollywood we were going to
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: do for 20 years. Yeah, but we only did 20 episodes.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: And it came and went and it like, yes, we
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: had the billboards. Yes, we were in Times Square. Yes,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: we had the big premiere. Yes, everybody knew about it.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: We were in the magazines. People loved the show, but
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: it didn't ultimately go to the business that I expected
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: it to. But then the next year, Celebrity Rehab went
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: number one and we made millions of dollars and we
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: did our thing.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: And, you know, so you don't know what's going to go.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: That's why you have to have your hands in as
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: many pots as possible. products, TV shows, content, branding, marketing, PR.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: That's why we do a little bit of everything. And
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: that's why the Hollywood Handbook is important to show that
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: you have to be thinking 10 steps ahead of what
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: you're shooting right now on your phone. Shoot this, market it,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: get it put out, get your analytic up, get a
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: brand deal, go famous, make it, get a TV show,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: and then retire. Like you have to be thinking one year,
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  Speaker 3: two year, five year, 10 year. If you're not thinking
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: like that, you're not in the game. Right.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: And I think there's such a difference, though. There are
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: people that really just want to be famous and haven't picked...
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: what they wanna be famous about. And then there's people
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: that really organically are living something. They're gonna be the
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: ones that do the best. And it could be, again,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: like I brought up somebody that's doing nails and has
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: this great story and this great family and this great
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: personality and whatever it is, but they have to organically
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: be living the truth of what this story is because
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: if somebody just wants to be famous and keeps deviating
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: on what they think is gonna make them famous, I
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: think that person is gonna fall by the wayside. They
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: have to be true to who they are and be
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: living it. And that's what you did. You were living it.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: You were, you were, you grew up with these people.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: You knew these people organically. It's not like you were
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: chasing them. And so that must've been really difficult for
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: the people you worked with at UTA at the time.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Was it UTA that you left to then go become
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: your own star? I mean, were they pissed? Were your
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: bosses like, what the fuck?
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: Because what I did was I was a motion picture
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: talent agent. So basically I, My job was to look
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: for movies and scripts and make deals for UTA's movie stars,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: which included Harrison Ford and Johnny Depp and Owen Wilson
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: and Vince Vaughn, Ben Stiller and all these big A-list
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: people and Jeff Bridges.
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  Speaker 2: That's your job.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: But I wound up all the kids that I grew
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: up with, the Jenners and the Stewarts and the Spellings
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: and the Kardashians and Paris and Nicole and the kids
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: from Laguna beach and the hills and the housewives and
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: all these people that were like evolving.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: I knew everybody.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: So I wound up signing a lot of those people.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Paris Hilton was my first client. You know, I was
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: picking people out and then we were doing deals for
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: them because the celeb you spawned business, the kids of
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: celebrities and business moguls, they.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: Became of value.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: And I was the guy in the student high in
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: the office every day making the deals. So everybody knew
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: to come to me to go get put on.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: And that's what I did.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: So UTA never believed in my ideas or believed that
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: maybe having... An agent with a TV show could be
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: a great marketing vehicle. I had to walk a very
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: thin line because the agency was the star, not the agent.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: But the agent became the star.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: And I, you know, when I, when I left, I
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: took all my clients, I took all my bookings. I had,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: you know, I got sick of also the way that
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: they tried to pay you. You know what I mean?
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: You get paid X for your salary and then you're
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: negotiating at the end of the year for your bonus.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: And every year they'd fuck you on your bonus. So
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: why would I stick around when I can make a
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: hundred percent of the money with no control and do
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: it the way you want to do it? Like, I
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: don't live for you. I don't live for the five.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: People that own the agency.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: They never believed they were pissed. I mean, they were furious.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: So, and was that the last time you worked for
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: someone you've always worked for yourself since then?
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: Uh, well, I mean, I've, I mean, I've worked for
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: the networks because as a producer, you're working for them,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: but yeah, I don't really work for anyone. I work
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: for my clients. Yeah.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Love that. Um, where do you see reality TV going now? What,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: what's something you would predict going forward?
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: Um, reality TV is always going to be here because
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: it's immediate. just like a documentary. It's non-scripted television. So
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: it's just an evolution of the same stuff that will
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: be reinvented. I think that a lot of the older
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: trends will start to.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: Come back as well.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: Big group celebrity shows, dating shows, great family businesses, B
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: celebrities trying to be A celebrities, unique dating shows. Um,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of, uh, of re-evolution and you now
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: have so many different mediums that you can sell to
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: because there's so many streamers, there's so many independent distribution,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: you know, there's so many brands that will pay for shows.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: So you have a lot of ways to watch your content.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: Now, um, I do think that, you know, there is
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: the shift in like what the value system is of like,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: who's a star, who's not a star. And again, that
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: goes back to like what the analytics are because the
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: networks want to see your analytics.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: And not all press is good press.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: So in the Hollywood Handbook, we teach you about the
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: PR world and how to be your own publicist and
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: how to get attention and how to market what you're
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: doing to become water cooler conversation. And they make it
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: in TMZ and page six and places like that so
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: that the networks and the buyers, when they look at it,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: they go, well, they're.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Being talked about here.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: So maybe we should give them some money to do
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: something there. So there is a lot of this understanding
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: that you have to have that it cannot happen overnight.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: And you have to have the right looks, the right
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: press and the right team behind you.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: And nothing happens by itself.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: Even the info, even Tana, Tana happened by herself in
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: the beginning, but then the team makes the deals and
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: makes the money and brings in, makes it all work.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: So there are a lot of steps that you have
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: to follow.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: What is your favorite show on TV right now?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, I was like really in the succession,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: you know, succession was, everything.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, just the writing, the acting, the brilliance, the
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: storyline to see this family. It just reminded me of
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: so many people that I've grown up and been around
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: and the businesses that we've worked in and to see
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: like this crazy, you know, wild lives that these people
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: leave in the cutthroat of the business, because the game
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: has changed. It's a dangerous world. You have to be,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: you know, you have to be protect yourself. You have
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: to protect your assets, protect your IP, protect your businesses.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: And succession was everything that you like ever could think
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: the world is and believe that it is.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: And it's all the sheet is pulled from you. So
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: it was, it was wild.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: I loved that show too. What about in reality TV?
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: Is there a show that you love or is it
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: a show that has been canceled that you think should
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: come back like a celebrity rehab or, you know, something
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: from the past that you think.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: Every day I get emails about celebrity rehab, wanting to
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: redo it. We've, we, we've thought about redoing it. We've
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: thought about bringing it back. I think that, you know,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: over the 150 episodes of that show, we did a lot.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: I would, I would love to see it come back,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: but I, I, I think that, um, I love the
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: big groups of a mix of reality and famous people
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: all doing unique stuff together like this, you know, stars
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: on Mars thing that's on.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: Like everybody's trying to reinvent those kind of shows.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: I love those and those are great and those are
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: really good for my company because I have so many mixes.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: Of talent that we can put together. Lots of those
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: people on those shows.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: Like the one on Fox that they did with Dr.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Drew and Anthony Scaramucci where they went to Jordan. Do
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about? Where they had to
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: be like Navy SEALs, that kind of thing, or like
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: a celebrity big brother. Yeah, like those are so cool.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know why that didn't do well.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, well, it did. It came back.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: Did it?
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, good.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: Um, you know, and then the celebrity big brothers and
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: all the, you know, those are the things I think
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: people like to watch. They love to see a weird
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: mix of people all together, like telling their stories and listen, there's.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: A ton of interacting with the.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: Most random only fans in YouTube and Instagram stars. that
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: are ready for linear television. And if we can get
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: them the linear, that's the dream.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: All of them come to DWE because they know that
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: we can take this small look on the phone and
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: take it to linear.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: But linear television doesn't always pay more than what you
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: can make right here. This might make more money than linear.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing that you've got to understand. That's
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: where the game has changed.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: Because sure, it is.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: Prestigious to be on Fox and NBC and ABC, but
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: if they're paying more on Facebook watched or, you know, Zeus,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: you may want to watch it there. Yeah. Cause it
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: does come down to money and you know that you said,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: you said, let's go do the cable show over the
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: network show for the money.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: You know, so you got to make those decisions.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: So, uh, all right. Where can people find you? Where
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: can people sign up for this?
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: Hollywood handbook.com. is where you can go and get the course. Okay.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: At DWE Talent is my business Instagram. Sir David Weintraub
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: is my personal Instagram. At DWE Talent on Twitter. We're
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: looking for talent. We're looking for people to become clients. We,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: you know, we want to help people. We want to
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: teach people.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: And, you know, this is a year for growth.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: So everything that I've learned, everything that I've been through,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: I want to take all of my hard work and
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: my knowledge and teach it to you.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: Follow the Hollywood Handbook.
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  Speaker 1: And everybody has a chance. I mean, that's like the
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: lesson that anybody can become somebody. So I think you're
• 1:14:46
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  Speaker 1: much for joining me on Misunderstood. I really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 6: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 6: for it?
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 7: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 7: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 6: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: It's Dunaidial.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 6: Where?
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 7: Dunaidial.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: There's an accent on the E.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: Do you mean.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: Lift? Please.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: Are you going past Kimmage?
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: Oh, Kimmage.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 7: Dundale Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.