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Best of full interview: Kelly Rowland, Method Man & DeVon Franklin talks “Relationship Goals”, Personal love challenges, Hiphop + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Every day a week ago, Cli up the Breakfast Club,
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Speaker 1: finish for y'all.
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Speaker 2: Done morning everybody, It's dj n V.
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Speaker 3: Just hilarious.
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Speaker 2: Charlamagne the Guy, we are the Breakfast Club. Laurla Roses
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Speaker 2: here as well. We got some special guests in the building,
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Speaker 2: some family.
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Speaker 4: We have Kelly.
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Speaker 2: Rowland, the Brother Met the Man, and Devon Franklin.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back.
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Speaker 5: Great relationship Relationship?
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Speaker 1: What made you want to turn Relationship Goes into a movie?
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Speaker 1: It's a book by Pastor Michael Todd. What you want
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Speaker 1: to turn it into a film?
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Speaker 3: You know what? One of my greatest inspirations as a
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Speaker 3: producer is my brother Will Packer, and I saw what
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Speaker 3: he did with Steve Harvey's book, Think like a Man.
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Speaker 3: I said, wait a minute, This Relationship Goes book has
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Speaker 3: so many great principles. Why don't we do that that
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Speaker 3: with this? And so that was the inspiration. And then
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Speaker 3: also what was so cool is when Pastor Todd released
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Speaker 3: the book. He put it out during the pandemic, and
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Speaker 3: as an author, when you can't tour that book usually
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Speaker 3: doesn't work. He did everything virtually. It went to number
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Speaker 3: one on the New York Times bestsellers list, and when
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Speaker 3: you look at how people were responding and how many
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Speaker 3: lives are being changed. I just thought it was the
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Speaker 3: great foundation for a romantic comedy.
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Speaker 2: Break down what the movie's about for people that haven't
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Speaker 2: seen it or haven't seen the trail as.
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Speaker 6: Yet without giving it away.
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Speaker 3: Well, basically, you know, Kelly plays Leah, Meth plays Jared,
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Speaker 3: and they have a history, but in the present moment
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Speaker 3: of the story, they're competing for the same job, and
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Speaker 3: Meth that comes up with the idea they're in the
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Speaker 3: news world, and Meth that comes up with the idea
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Speaker 3: his character, Jared comes up with the idea, Hey, why
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Speaker 3: don't we do a story on the book relationship goals
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Speaker 3: for valent exactly exactly, and then that begins everyone in
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Speaker 3: the group beginning to think about their aim and think
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Speaker 3: about their love life and think about their relationships. So
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna give it away, but that's kind of
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Speaker 3: the catalyst for the movie.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, how do y'all go?
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Speaker 7: This is random? But the song complicated? Like the song
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Speaker 7: is dope?
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Speaker 1: Well, what made y'all want to go do a song
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Speaker 1: so early? With that part in the contract? Okay, we
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Speaker 1: got care they got to do it.
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Speaker 8: No, it just happened, Like, you know, I got the script,
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Speaker 8: I read the script, I was inspired, went into the
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Speaker 8: studio was I've been working on music, so I literally
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Speaker 8: just started writing from Leah's perspective myself and Jesse Rayes
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Speaker 8: and then it came out and then I sent it
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Speaker 8: to DeVaughn and Anne Raspberry over at Amazon. I was like,
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Speaker 8: I wonder if it'll work, and it just kind of worked.
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Speaker 8: I said it to Meth and he was like, yeah,
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Speaker 8: let me let me do this.
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Speaker 1: Have you know y'all been in that situation in real
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Speaker 1: life where you got to do business with somebody that
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Speaker 1: you was in a relationship with.
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Speaker 2: That would.
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Speaker 5: I mean, it just kind of happened, that's all.
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Speaker 3: It just kind of happened.
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Speaker 6: Is there any aspects of the characters' lives that relate
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Speaker 6: to y'all real life?
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Speaker 5: Absolutely?
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Speaker 8: I mean I think the way Leah has when you
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Speaker 8: meet her, she's holding onto everything. She's so in control,
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Speaker 8: you know what I mean. And I think that for her,
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Speaker 8: like when she has control of everything, she's feeling like
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Speaker 8: I got this, and she does, and she does, but
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Speaker 8: she also is dealing with a whole bunch of internal stuff.
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Speaker 5: Grief is a big one. For her, you know what
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Speaker 5: I mean.
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Speaker 8: And it's kind of like drifting into everything else in
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Speaker 8: her life and you see how it plays a big
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Speaker 8: role in her decision making and everything. It's really interesting.
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Speaker 8: So yeah, that I definitely understood.
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Speaker 2: Just What's the one thing I told you about it?
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Speaker 2: As soon as I started watching What's the first thing?
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Speaker 4: I tell you? What I tell.
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Speaker 6: You in the wardrobe?
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Speaker 2: Anyway, what I say, I didn't say that.
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Speaker 6: He couldn't help, but he loved the wardrobe of lev
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Speaker 6: and he was like, well you you showed.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, the wardrobe was dope.
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Speaker 2: The suit remedy of it was powerful, but it gave
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Speaker 2: me like a little Janet Jackson with it too, the
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Speaker 2: way to change.
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Speaker 4: Well, it was just dope.
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Speaker 2: I've never seen you don't really see shows usually the
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Speaker 2: wardrobe was cheap, but it seemed like they put a
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Speaker 2: lot into it.
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Speaker 3: I'll show it was dope.
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Speaker 5: Was that your idea?
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Speaker 4: Like?
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Speaker 6: Did you style yourself for the movie?
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Speaker 4: Addressed me?
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Speaker 8: Because because Devon is a producer and he so graciously
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Speaker 8: allowed me to ep on this project as well, I
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Speaker 8: was like, Divna, I have somebody.
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Speaker 5: Literally showed him a picture board?
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Speaker 8: You know what I mean of how I saw every
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Speaker 8: everybody and all the characters, and so you know, he
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Speaker 8: obliged and allowed us to just have a little bit
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Speaker 8: of fun.
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Speaker 3: Oh man, she killed it. I mean our wardrobe, our
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Speaker 3: costume designer was named Gersha Phillips and so but you know, Kelly,
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Speaker 3: you know, would just be sending pictures and then also
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Speaker 3: use all her relationships in the fashion world. That was
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Speaker 3: It was dope wardrobe. Yeah, thankfully we didn't have to
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Speaker 3: pay for all of that.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we gave you marry stuff, but was great.
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Speaker 10: What do the power suits mean for Kelly as an actress?
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Speaker 10: Because I know a Mia Copa. It was all about
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Speaker 10: the power suits and the silhoettes as well too. And
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Speaker 10: then I see you here again. And that was a
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Speaker 10: personal decision. So like, as an actor, like what are
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Speaker 10: you saying to the people that are watching you by
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Speaker 10: choosing to be specific about that?
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Speaker 8: I mean, I think that women are powerful, and I
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Speaker 8: think it should be unapologetic. And sometimes it does start
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Speaker 8: with like how you feel on the outside, your wardrope
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Speaker 8: on the outside, because when somebody sees you all put together,
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Speaker 8: they're like, okay, I.
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Speaker 5: Got to step up, you know.
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Speaker 8: So for me, it was just like stepping up, whether
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Speaker 8: it's for myself or expecting others to step up as well.
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Speaker 5: So I feel like, you know, you got to put
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Speaker 5: on to like really.
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Speaker 8: Sometimes it's like when it's not here immediately you have
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Speaker 8: to put on.
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Speaker 5: But I feel like that, thank you. So I wanted
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Speaker 5: my character to make sure she felt.
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Speaker 10: Like that, because once we start peeling back the layers
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Speaker 10: of your character, I feel like she was she was
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Speaker 10: trying to learn how to accept love in so many
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Speaker 10: different ways.
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Speaker 5: About the movie.
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Speaker 10: Correct, but you show up as like you don't even
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Speaker 10: talk to me, like you can't sit.
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Speaker 5: Yes, it's a shield. It's a bit of a shield.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 8: The shield was just walls, just layers and layers of everything.
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Speaker 8: But that's even deep. So we don't want to give
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Speaker 8: away that that too much there either.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you get comfortable with acting? Because you know,
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Speaker 2: looking at you never comfortable, it looks it looks so comfortable.
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Speaker 2: Now you don't look like a rapper.
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Speaker 4: Now I see you as comfortable.
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Speaker 9: You get lazy, you know, so I like to explore
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Speaker 9: outside my comfort zone. Yeah, so I don't think I'm
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Speaker 9: ever going to be comfortable with acting really.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I don't think you should be right. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: I don't think you should be.
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Speaker 7: Then you get drawn the roles emotionally or creatively both
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Speaker 7: okay both.
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Speaker 9: This one was more emotionally. I see Jared as a
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Speaker 9: man going through a transition. He's thinking more along the
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Speaker 9: lines of legacy, you know, leaving something behind, having something
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Speaker 9: that really shows meaning to fulfill himself. And he I
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Speaker 9: think that when this job opportunity comes up, yes, I
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Speaker 9: mean that is a great way to start.
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Speaker 4: But oh, Leo works there as well.
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Speaker 9: This is a sign and it's something that he could
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Speaker 9: either take advantage of and the more or you know,
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Speaker 9: stay focused on what the prize is, which he thought
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Speaker 9: was the job, but it was actually Leah.
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Speaker 1: That's what the movie because it's like it talks about
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Speaker 1: expectations versus reality and like these modern relationships, Like where
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Speaker 1: do you think people get the most unrealistic expectations from?
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Speaker 5: Is it social media? Y'all talk about it all the time.
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Speaker 6: Don't try it?
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Speaker 5: Absolutely?
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Speaker 8: And ps I think that social media and everybody actually
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Speaker 8: believe in the hype, like they've done a fine job
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Speaker 8: of just adding fuel to the fire. So to me,
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Speaker 8: I think that we have an obligation, especially now for
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Speaker 8: this next generation that's looking at us like thinking that
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Speaker 8: it's just also great and we have to peel back layers.
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Speaker 8: And I think that this movie does a really great
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Speaker 8: job of peeling back layers and being honest in that way.
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Speaker 8: I actually love the fact that Pastor Michael Todd named
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Speaker 8: the book relationship, because that's the draw and that's where
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Speaker 8: people are like, what the heck is the relationship?
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Speaker 5: You know? What does that look like?
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Speaker 8: It's actually something for you to define what it is,
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Speaker 8: because I'm not somebody else. I'm not a decision making
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Speaker 8: somebody else, you know what I mean. I'm making decisions
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Speaker 8: for me and somebody else, me and this other person.
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Speaker 8: I'm making decisions and figuring out our relationship. I can't
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Speaker 8: bite that. That come with a whole other set of trauma,
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Speaker 8: whole another set of issues, who another set of everything else.
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Speaker 8: So I can't make that my relationship go. I don't
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Speaker 8: know what the background is.
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Speaker 9: I feel like everyone wants to live in their purpose.
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Speaker 9: Sometimes they just don't know what it is, and when
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Speaker 9: they watch movies like this or even social media, they
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Speaker 9: live vicariously through the people they connect with, and it's
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Speaker 9: always going to be someone who wants to keep up
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Speaker 9: with the Joneses, but there are very few Joneses. They
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Speaker 9: want to keep up with anybody. So when you find
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Speaker 9: yourself in these spaces where you want to live that
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Speaker 9: fantasy and have that happy ending and shit, and it
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Speaker 9: turns out not to be that happy ending, you have
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Speaker 9: to bear with that and then move on, and that's it.
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Speaker 3: Can you have relationship in the workplace now?
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Speaker 7: Though?
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Speaker 8: You know?
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Speaker 2: Because I look at these movies and I always say,
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Speaker 2: if my son works somewhere, I would that's where he's
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Speaker 2: going to meet somebody, right Because you're at your job
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Speaker 2: eight to nine hours a day, so that's.
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Speaker 3: Where you're most likely to meet somebody.
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Speaker 2: But in the society they tell you that you can't work.
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Speaker 3: With somebody that you have a relationship with.
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Speaker 8: Me.
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Speaker 5: Can that happen?
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Speaker 4: I don't think you can meet I mean I don't know.
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Speaker 4: I can't.
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Speaker 6: When you're working somewhere and you mess with somebody, it's
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Speaker 6: cute at first, but then when things turn, I gotta
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Speaker 6: come to work and I gotta se this nigga a
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Speaker 6: break worm.
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Speaker 5: I got.
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Speaker 4: Morning.
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Speaker 6: So to your own discretion, I feel like it can
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Speaker 6: be done. When when two people know what they want,
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Speaker 6: when they know how to clearly distinguished business from you know,
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Speaker 6: work from our personal you know, when we're at work,
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Speaker 6: we are co workers. You gotta treat you, you gotta be.
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Speaker 5: A line of boundaries. I think you make an excellent points.
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Speaker 3: You just have to also, you know, use discretion because
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Speaker 3: also in the movie their colleague. Yeah, you know, it's
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Speaker 3: not like one is higher than the other. And I
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Speaker 3: think you just have to be very very mindful of
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Speaker 3: your position professionally when you're making a decision on you know,
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Speaker 3: who to date in the workplace and how to date
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Speaker 3: that person. But really thinking with discretion and integrity is
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Speaker 3: important because once that's gone, you know, everythink and is
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Speaker 3: up for grabs at that point.
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Speaker 1: So how did the movie challenge or even affirm your
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Speaker 1: own beliefs about love?
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Speaker 5: I mean, I.
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Speaker 8: When it comes to grief, Like I understood my character
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Speaker 8: holding it together because remember like right after I had tightened,
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Speaker 8: that's when my mom passed, So I didn't realize like
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Speaker 8: I was like trying to keep it together. So I
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Speaker 8: remember when we shot the scene.
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Speaker 5: That day, I was like I literally was like.
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Speaker 8: Like not letting it go before because I felt like
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Speaker 8: I felt that so tough because we are like a
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Speaker 8: lot of people are dealing with but you don't know
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Speaker 8: that it comes in ways. And so I love the
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Speaker 8: way Regina Hall talks about us, Regina King talks about it.
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Speaker 8: It's so honest and just really authentic. And when she
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Speaker 8: said it, I completely understood that. It's actually in my notebook,
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Speaker 8: My relationship goes journal a notebook. Her quotes that she
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Speaker 8: was talking about dealing with greed, but I just let
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Speaker 8: it all go. So I understood that with her for sure.
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Speaker 5: And as it equates to love, what about you left one?
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Speaker 7: How did it affirm?
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Speaker 4: Man? Watch the movie? Though?
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Speaker 3: For me, what I love in the movie is, you know,
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Speaker 3: all the main characters, you know, are reading the book
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Speaker 3: and wrestling with what it means for them. And one
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Speaker 3: of the biggest tenets in the books is fixing your
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Speaker 3: aim and knowing what you're shooting at. And so for me,
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Speaker 3: what I love about the movie is like, I believe,
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Speaker 3: I really, sincerely believe love is the most powerful force
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Speaker 3: in the universe, absolutely, and I think that it's really
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Speaker 3: easy in our culture to get center about it, especially
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Speaker 3: when you go through things and difficulties and challenges in
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Speaker 3: the area of love, dating and relationships. But for me,
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Speaker 3: it was about we got to keep this area of hope.
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Speaker 3: This is an area where people hurt so much. So
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Speaker 3: for me personally, making the movie was like, this is good,
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Speaker 3: it's therapeutics. It's positive to put this out there that
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Speaker 3: we can't give up on love. I believe it, especially
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Speaker 3: as a man. I think it's important for us as men.
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Speaker 3: And when you see you know his character, Jared's character
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Speaker 3: in The Mess, character in the film named Jared. He's
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Speaker 3: a man who believes in love. He has a past
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Speaker 3: and he's reckoned with that past, and he's making amends
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Speaker 3: for that past. But one of the things that the
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Speaker 3: book does is reminds him that love is the aim.
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Speaker 3: And I just think that that's something that I wanted
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Speaker 3: to put in the culture right now, said, how do
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Speaker 3: you shut down though?
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Speaker 2: Right because you guys do so many projects, you are
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Speaker 2: on tour, you do so many different things, you do
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Speaker 2: so many different things.
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Speaker 3: How do you shut down for that love at home?
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Speaker 2: You know, because you still got to work, but then
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Speaker 2: you still got a home life that you got to
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Speaker 2: make sure the home is good.
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Speaker 4: How do y'all two separate worlds?
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Speaker 9: I think home life is more in reality for me,
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Speaker 9: I can't speak for everybody whose life is grounded more
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Speaker 9: in reality.
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Speaker 4: For me, all this shit is TV. Period.
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Speaker 2: You ever have to shut that TV down to make
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Speaker 2: sure you spend that quality time that we forget about.
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Speaker 9: When I'm outside, I'm outside, when I'm indoors hm, that's
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Speaker 9: a totally different energy. So I know how to separate
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Speaker 9: the two, you know, but they are. I'm not gonna lie.
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Speaker 9: I'd rather be inside than outside at this point in
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Speaker 9: my life, so you know, but I do know how
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Speaker 9: to separate the two. Not saying it always works. Something
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Speaker 9: has to suffer in the end. Kelly can definitely speak
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Speaker 9: to that. You know, some one thing's going to be
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Speaker 9: imbalanced and the other is gonna you know whatever.
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Speaker 4: But you learn to deal with it.
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Speaker 9: You learn to move forward, and you learn to say,
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Speaker 9: this is what our life is and we have to
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Speaker 9: accept that.
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Speaker 7: I'm glad you said that, because work life balance is
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Speaker 7: a myth.
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Speaker 5: No, it doesn't.
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Speaker 8: And then you put all the other variables in which
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Speaker 8: you are in it, and you're like, oh, today motherhood
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Speaker 8: is my priority. It's like, oh, well, I haven't spent
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Speaker 8: any time with him. I need to go spend time.
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Speaker 5: Okay.
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Speaker 8: So tim is a priority today. Oh I need to
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Speaker 8: get back to this project.
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Speaker 5: Okay. So music is like everything, like Trump's the other one.
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Speaker 8: Everything, everything, everything is more of a priority than others
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Speaker 8: on certain days. I just think that, like you, like
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Speaker 8: you said, it's no such thing as a balance. You're
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Speaker 8: just figuring out which one is the priority that day.
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Speaker 3: No, I was just going to say, so. I think
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Speaker 3: it's also integration because even when you're busy and your way,
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Speaker 3: consideration if you prioritize that, and consideration can just be
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Speaker 3: a text yes, think about you, babe, look at this.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 3: It's just always keeping your relationship with priority mentally and emotionally, spiritually,
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Speaker 3: and even when you're not there, that will then produce
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Speaker 3: different forms of consideration. And that's that's how you do it,
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Speaker 3: because there's there is no.
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Speaker 6: In real life.
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Speaker 8: No, Literally, before I left the house, like the other
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Speaker 8: morning to come here, I did what do you call it?
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Speaker 8: Posted like post it notes, like in the closet, like
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Speaker 8: in Tim's closet, and like just to remind them, like
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Speaker 8: have a great day of school today.
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Speaker 5: You give it like about all that stuff is really important.
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Speaker 5: It definitely sells the sea consideration. Go ahead, go.
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Speaker 6: With the Vaughn specifically, what do you believe is the
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Speaker 6: healthiest balance of using faith and therapy to seek love?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I couldn't listen. Listen, they both work together,
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Speaker 3: but they're both separate, right. I believe that anybody who
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Speaker 3: has found love or wants love has to have faith
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Speaker 3: because it is a miracle on a planet with billions
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Speaker 3: of people that two people can find each other and
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Speaker 3: make the decision to do life together. That is like
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Speaker 3: a miracle. So you got to have a level of faith,
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Speaker 3: even if you don't realize it, because if you're on
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Speaker 3: an app or you're going out, you're having a faith
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Speaker 3: that one day I'm going to find a person that's
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Speaker 3: going to be my partner. So that's faith to me.
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Speaker 3: When it comes to therapy, therapy is about the trauma,
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Speaker 3: right and and and most of us have had a
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Speaker 3: lot of trauma in this area of love, dating and relationships.
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Speaker 3: So I do believe that in order to be a
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Speaker 3: great partner and just a great person, therapy is important.
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Speaker 3: You know, I got into therapy what six seven years ago?
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Speaker 3: And what it does?
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Speaker 2: My kids are watching there.
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Speaker 3: You go for the coach, you but for me. But
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Speaker 3: what you don't realize is you think like, oh, I'm good,
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Speaker 3: but you don't realize when you get into therapy, you
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Speaker 3: realize that, oh wow, there's some wounds. And then what
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Speaker 3: you don't realize when you don't do therapy, then you
17:04
Speaker 3: bleed on your partner and get you want them to
17:08
Speaker 3: be your therapist. And for me personally, I had to
17:11
Speaker 3: work on what my wounds were, getting that type of
17:13
Speaker 3: healing so then I can be a better individual, better partner.
17:16
Speaker 3: So I think they work together, but they definitely are
17:18
Speaker 3: are individual pursuits.
17:20
Speaker 6: How do you know you need therapy because that's a
17:22
Speaker 6: lot of people, Like you said, you don't even know
17:24
Speaker 6: that you need it until I guess you're in a situation.
17:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're breathing, you need it period because everybody's
17:32
Speaker 3: been through some trauma, some challenges and difficulties and.
17:36
Speaker 8: You can't figure that stuff out on your own. Here
17:38
Speaker 8: you are trying to unravel a ball that's steady weaving itself,
17:44
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, like the particular space in
17:47
Speaker 8: which you've had the trauma, and then it's something else
17:50
Speaker 8: that is an extension of it, and it weaves itself, you.
17:53
Speaker 5: Know what I mean. And it's a trigger you know
17:55
Speaker 5: what I mean.
17:55
Speaker 8: So you're trying to figure out how to battle the
17:57
Speaker 8: trigger on top of a trigger, on top of the
17:59
Speaker 8: trigger on top of the base of the trauma. So
18:01
Speaker 8: it's like you're constantly trying to figure out.
18:04
Speaker 5: That is exhausting.
18:05
Speaker 8: Like we're supposed to be living life abundant, you know,
18:08
Speaker 8: and enjoyed joy and like actually excited about trying to
18:12
Speaker 8: figure that stuff out for ourselves first, because, like he said,
18:14
Speaker 8: you're gonna bleed over the other person.
18:16
Speaker 5: That is even more painful.
18:18
Speaker 8: Because you you you love yourself, but you you've decided
18:22
Speaker 8: to love this person the way you love God.
18:24
Speaker 5: And I'm not trying to bleed all over you like that.
18:28
Speaker 1: Man, What about when the person is dealing with all
18:29
Speaker 1: types of trauma and they telling you that, you know,
18:31
Speaker 1: you got to love me to wear God love me.
18:32
Speaker 7: But god love is unconditional. How when do you know
18:35
Speaker 7: when to back away?
18:37
Speaker 8: I mean, I ain't going through that, but I don't
18:47
Speaker 8: I don't know.
18:49
Speaker 5: I don't divine because I'm gonna call my brother like.
18:55
Speaker 3: Listen, listen. God's love is for sure unconditional, and we
19:01
Speaker 3: as human beings aspire to that. But everybody has a
19:04
Speaker 3: breaking point, and only you know when you've hit that
19:07
Speaker 3: breaking point. And sometimes the greatest act of love is
19:12
Speaker 3: to make the decision. You know, hey, I love you
19:15
Speaker 3: so much that I can acknowledge that we've done as
19:18
Speaker 3: much as we can do. So that's that's not that's
19:21
Speaker 3: not a that's not a lack of love. Sometimes it
19:23
Speaker 3: takes even more love to do that. But each person
19:25
Speaker 3: will know when, when, and if you ever get to
19:27
Speaker 3: that breaking point.
19:29
Speaker 2: The film did you know Meth and Kelly Roland was
19:32
Speaker 2: the perfect match with.
19:33
Speaker 3: This, No, you know, I didn't. What was what was
19:35
Speaker 3: cool is I've been developing this script for years. Uh
19:38
Speaker 3: you know, really whenever I'm making a movie, you know,
19:40
Speaker 3: a movie is only as good as a script. So
19:42
Speaker 3: this script just took a little longer to get right
19:44
Speaker 3: because you know, Pastor Todd's book is a book of advice,
19:47
Speaker 3: it's not a narrative. So we literally had to create
19:50
Speaker 3: the story from scratch. And so by the time I
19:53
Speaker 3: got the script right, and then I'd hired Linna Mendoza
19:55
Speaker 3: to direct the movie, and she's a really you know, amazing,
19:59
Speaker 3: promise it comedy director, and so I was like, Okay,
20:03
Speaker 3: who can do this? And I talked to Amazon. I
20:04
Speaker 3: was like Kelly Rowland. So Kelly and I had had
20:07
Speaker 3: lunch right before me a Kulpa came out and so
20:10
Speaker 3: I got a sense of what it is she wanted
20:11
Speaker 3: to do, and so I sent it to her and
20:14
Speaker 3: over the weekend and in twenty four hours she read
20:16
Speaker 3: it and she's like I'm in. I'm like bet so
20:18
Speaker 3: I let Amazon know, Yo, we got Kelly. They're like, no,
20:20
Speaker 3: let's do it. So we started the process of making
20:22
Speaker 3: the movie and we started, you know, seeing a lot
20:25
Speaker 3: of guys that play Jair. We looked at probably one
20:27
Speaker 3: hundred different dudes.
20:29
Speaker 9: And it did Anne but Raspberry our executive and Amazon said, hey,
20:38
Speaker 9: what about met the Man?
20:39
Speaker 3: And I was like, yo, we met like ten years ago,
20:41
Speaker 3: been talking about trying to do something. So we sent
20:44
Speaker 3: him the script. He loved it. He came in on
20:46
Speaker 3: a chemistry read with Kelly and within two minutes we
20:48
Speaker 3: were like, all right, back there it is. And so
20:51
Speaker 3: it just it just organically, you know, came out this way.
20:55
Speaker 3: And to me, it's like the thing about them and
20:57
Speaker 3: I'll say this with them here is like you may see,
21:00
Speaker 3: like you know, talent that came from the music industry.
21:02
Speaker 3: I want to be very clear, these are two of
21:05
Speaker 3: Hollywood's greatest actors. When you talk about their preparation, I mean,
21:10
Speaker 3: look like he Mett cares so much about his lines.
21:13
Speaker 3: There was one scene we were in the car and
21:15
Speaker 3: he just kept flubbing one line and he would not
21:18
Speaker 3: stop until he got it perfect. These are two consummate professionals.
21:21
Speaker 3: The way they prepared, the way they got into character,
21:24
Speaker 3: the way they they were ambassadors on set, You're not
21:26
Speaker 3: just seeing two music icons coming together. You're really seeing
21:29
Speaker 3: two of Hollywood's I think leading men and leading women
21:32
Speaker 3: coming together.
21:32
Speaker 7: Did that come from from like wanting to get the
21:36
Speaker 7: bar right?
21:37
Speaker 4: You want to hit a rhythm, you know what I mean?
21:39
Speaker 8: Yeah?
21:39
Speaker 9: And I just wasn't feeling it, so I wanted to
21:41
Speaker 9: get it absolutely right. And I mean, if you guys
21:45
Speaker 9: have seen the movie, I Leading Ladies fantastic. Yes she is,
21:49
Speaker 9: and she carries this film big time. Some of my
21:52
Speaker 9: favorite scenes are I told her this myself. Some of
21:54
Speaker 9: my favorite scenes are with you and the girls. Just
21:57
Speaker 9: that whole camaraderie feels genuine when it doesn't feel thrown together.
22:01
Speaker 4: And it was real.
22:02
Speaker 2: So kudos, you know, you know, just try out for
22:05
Speaker 2: a partner.
22:08
Speaker 5: That up because.
22:14
Speaker 3: She was great. It was great. Of course i've seen
22:17
Speaker 3: it make I would not.
22:24
Speaker 5: I would not.
22:25
Speaker 9: If the experience just when you don't get the part,
22:28
Speaker 9: sometimes it's just you don't fit the suit.
22:35
Speaker 6: Did divine.
22:39
Speaker 5: In this movie?
22:40
Speaker 10: Right, use met the man's character to really have a
22:43
Speaker 10: conversation about like how we look at men or don't
22:46
Speaker 10: allow them to grow and vulnerability when it comes to love. Right,
22:51
Speaker 10: what was probably the most important conversation You wanted people
22:54
Speaker 10: to want women to walk away with from seeing his character.
22:58
Speaker 3: Because you know this is probably this is probably you know,
23:03
Speaker 3: a hard one, but you asked the question that men
23:07
Speaker 3: can't change. Men can change. But like, like when you
23:15
Speaker 3: look at the movie, and everybody watched the movie. It
23:17
Speaker 3: comes out on Amazon Prime February fourth, and so when
23:22
Speaker 3: you see this film, you'll see that Jared and Leah
23:25
Speaker 3: have a past. He's made some mistakes, but he is
23:28
Speaker 3: serious amount of toning for those mistakes, and he gets
23:31
Speaker 3: the book relationship goals, and it has principles in it
23:34
Speaker 3: that really help him recognize how much of a you know,
23:38
Speaker 3: of less than a man and a dog he was,
23:41
Speaker 3: and that he's reformed and so I think when you
23:44
Speaker 3: watch this movie, Leah has a choice. Do I believe him?
23:47
Speaker 3: Can I trust it? And part of that is seeing
23:50
Speaker 3: his behavior and evaluating that, and the other part of
23:52
Speaker 3: it is having faith and seeing. So that is one
23:55
Speaker 3: of when we talk about the male character, one of
23:57
Speaker 3: the greatest things. The takeaway is like, a man can change.
24:01
Speaker 3: Now now you know, I know in our culture everybody
24:03
Speaker 3: wants to say, well, no, no man. Once a man's no,
24:06
Speaker 3: a man can change, and a man can be remorseful.
24:09
Speaker 3: In this movie, I wanted to show that, you know,
24:11
Speaker 3: as men, as as black men, we can go through things,
24:14
Speaker 3: we can make mistakes, we can right are wrongs. And
24:18
Speaker 3: he's he's the one that brings the book into the movie,
24:20
Speaker 3: so he's a reader, he's he's trying to better himself.
24:23
Speaker 3: So I really wanted to have a character that can
24:25
Speaker 3: embody all of that and hopefully people, you know, walk
24:28
Speaker 3: away from the film saying, all right, you know what,
24:30
Speaker 3: let me let me not just close myself off to
24:33
Speaker 3: love and let me not just say this person is
24:36
Speaker 3: how they're always going to be. Let me give us
24:38
Speaker 3: some time to see.
24:40
Speaker 1: Vulnerability is still so hard for men to fully embrace.
24:43
Speaker 5: So deeply.
24:45
Speaker 7: I like that because you got to give something away.
24:50
Speaker 9: It feels like you have to give something away. You
24:52
Speaker 9: have to sacrifice a part of yourself and shit to
24:55
Speaker 9: be vulnerable.
24:57
Speaker 4: And especially when you're out. Let's just put it this way.
24:59
Speaker 9: By when we leave out of our homes and we
25:01
Speaker 9: go into our workforce, we're dealing. We're battling all day long,
25:06
Speaker 9: battling for position, whatever it is, whatever it is, your
25:09
Speaker 9: kick is, and then we want to get home the
25:12
Speaker 9: same way a police officer does after his shift. When
25:15
Speaker 9: he goes to work, there's the stress of the day.
25:17
Speaker 9: I may be killed today, you know, same thing with
25:20
Speaker 9: a man this day. I may be fired this day,
25:22
Speaker 9: or my company may go under this day. But when
25:25
Speaker 9: he comes home, he wants to have peace, comfort and
25:30
Speaker 9: everything that comes with that. This is where he can
25:33
Speaker 9: be vulnerable because his woman is who he's involved with,
25:39
Speaker 9: or whatever your significant other is. They're there to comfort
25:42
Speaker 9: that person and tell him you did all of that
25:45
Speaker 9: just so you can.
25:46
Speaker 4: Be here and do this now. Relax. I got you
25:50
Speaker 4: that kind of thing.
25:51
Speaker 9: So this is where you want to be vulnerable at
25:55
Speaker 9: because you have no other place to be vulnerable. So yeah,
26:00
Speaker 9: I mean and still It's just like what your sacrificing
26:03
Speaker 9: in that moment is maybe this woman is gonna look
26:06
Speaker 9: at me like, you know, I'm a little soft or whatever.
26:10
Speaker 9: But no, any woman that could look at that vulnerability
26:13
Speaker 9: and thinks softness is not for you.
26:15
Speaker 4: If anything, she's looking at you.
26:18
Speaker 9: It's I hate to equate it to this, but I've
26:20
Speaker 9: seen a report us seeing this investigation about dogs and
26:24
Speaker 9: a dog using the bathroom around its owner. Dogs don't
26:27
Speaker 9: use the bathroom like. They're very skeptical about where they
26:29
Speaker 9: go because they're vulnerable in that moment. So they have
26:33
Speaker 9: to honestly trust you in order to take a poop
26:37
Speaker 9: in front of you. So when you get to a
26:39
Speaker 9: point in your relationship where you could poop with the
26:41
Speaker 9: door open and your significant others right there brushing their teeth,
26:45
Speaker 9: vulnerability right there.
26:47
Speaker 3: Boom.
26:47
Speaker 4: Yeah. I wrap that up in a nice little.
26:52
Speaker 6: Going back to what you what you said the moment,
26:54
Speaker 6: were talking about mink and change and they can you
26:57
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Like Jared's character, he was a.
27:01
Speaker 5: Dog, you know what I mean.
27:02
Speaker 6: He did some you know, I'm just he had hurt her,
27:09
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. But on the other side
27:11
Speaker 6: of it. A woman can she's hurt from that, she
27:15
Speaker 6: can carry that and become bitter and not even realize
27:18
Speaker 6: this is bitter, you know what I'm saying. So how
27:21
Speaker 6: do you how do you even notice that you're bitter
27:25
Speaker 6: and that you actually could be so bitter from what
27:27
Speaker 6: happened to you back then that you're blocking yourself from love,
27:30
Speaker 6: from what you want, Like you got the list and everything,
27:32
Speaker 6: you know what you want, but you're blocking blessing because
27:35
Speaker 6: you are bitter from what happened to you way back.
27:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think in the movie, you know,
27:40
Speaker 3: the bitterness on some level shows up in the form
27:43
Speaker 3: of Leah's list. The list seems like a great thing, right,
27:47
Speaker 3: she has all these attributes of what she wants in
27:49
Speaker 3: her partner. But what it does is it mass insecurity
27:52
Speaker 3: and the idea if I can just get this list,
27:54
Speaker 3: then I won't get hurt. And and this is the
27:58
Speaker 3: probably the hardest thing when it comes to love, to
28:01
Speaker 3: your point about vulnerability. When you love and you open
28:05
Speaker 3: up your heart, you open up your heart to help,
28:08
Speaker 3: but you open up your heart to hurt as well.
28:11
Speaker 4: And the.
28:12
Speaker 3: Admission price for love is faith. You have to be
28:15
Speaker 3: open because if you're not open, You're never going to
28:18
Speaker 3: receive it and you can't give it. So to your point, like,
28:20
Speaker 3: how do you know if you're bitter? How do you
28:23
Speaker 3: what's your emotional disposition when you wake up in the morning.
28:26
Speaker 3: Are you in peace? Are you enjoyed? Are you optimistic?
28:29
Speaker 4: You know?
28:30
Speaker 3: And for me, the choices to those are choices. Those
28:34
Speaker 3: are choices, And and for me, I'm like, you know, when,
28:36
Speaker 3: especially when you watch the movie, I'm like, man, I
28:38
Speaker 3: don't we all go through heartbreak, we all go through
28:41
Speaker 3: difficult things. But you can get to love when you
28:45
Speaker 3: practice that love, when you make the choice to be
28:47
Speaker 3: that love, that joy, that happiness. And so over the
28:49
Speaker 3: course of the movie, you see Leah, you know, grappling
28:52
Speaker 3: with that. And over the course of the film she
28:54
Speaker 3: starts to realize, like, wait a minute, I got to
28:56
Speaker 3: open up my heart. I'm too closed off to it,
28:59
Speaker 3: and I think that that's probably one of the hardest
29:01
Speaker 3: things to do. But on the other side of it,
29:04
Speaker 3: when you get love, you know, excess, it's none of
29:08
Speaker 3: this matters. And in my opinion, this is all fine.
29:11
Speaker 3: But when you have love, when you have the right
29:13
Speaker 3: person and you can share your heart and your home
29:15
Speaker 3: and your health with that's what life is about. And
29:18
Speaker 3: so you know, I would advise anybody watch this film
29:21
Speaker 3: and really allow yourself to identify what are the areas
29:24
Speaker 3: in your heart that you're hurting. And and here's the
29:26
Speaker 3: other last thing I've saying, It's okay to hurt. Like
29:29
Speaker 3: in the movie, Leah hurts, and so often we don't
29:32
Speaker 3: want to hurt. We just want to fast forward through
29:33
Speaker 3: the hurt. No sit in it, feel it, because when
29:37
Speaker 3: you feel, that's when you can heal. And that's what
29:40
Speaker 3: you see in this movie. And then on the other
29:42
Speaker 3: side of that feeling and that healing is love waiting,
29:46
Speaker 3: and that, to me is one of the greatest things
29:48
Speaker 3: about this film is that it is It is entirely optimistic.
29:51
Speaker 3: It's not a pessimistic film. It's a film that will anybody,
29:55
Speaker 3: no matter what status of relationship you're in, you can
29:57
Speaker 3: watch it and take something from it that I believe
30:00
Speaker 3: E will help you in your love life.
30:02
Speaker 10: Kelly, I had a question, so piggybacking up both of
30:04
Speaker 10: those conversations, right you. I watched the you and met
30:07
Speaker 10: them and interview each other for et and you were
30:09
Speaker 10: talking about I think he actually like, what was your
30:11
Speaker 10: favorite thing that, like your husband does for you or
30:13
Speaker 10: something like that, and you said, just the way he
30:14
Speaker 10: loves on me and my son. But you also said
30:16
Speaker 10: you're still learning how to receive that love.
30:18
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, therapy. It all goes back to therapy.
30:23
Speaker 8: I'm still I'm still learning how to receive that. And
30:25
Speaker 8: by the way, I think that people like, well, you
30:27
Speaker 8: once you get married, you figure it out, Like hell
30:29
Speaker 8: you do, You're still trying to figure it out in marriage,
30:32
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. It's like why I think that,
30:36
Speaker 8: you know, fixing your aim, you know, before you get
30:39
Speaker 8: married is also a really great goal because then you
30:42
Speaker 8: get to work some things out, you know what I mean.
30:45
Speaker 8: Like I knew that Tim was my husband, I didn't
30:48
Speaker 8: know that I was going to run into so many
30:51
Speaker 8: different things that were triggers for me, you know what
30:53
Speaker 8: I mean, Like like how to love him? Oh my god,
30:55
Speaker 8: I'm but like how to love him the way he deserves?
31:00
Speaker 8: Like I want to love him the way he deserves
31:01
Speaker 8: to be loved because he loves me that way, and
31:04
Speaker 8: he's figuring out, thank you, he's figuring out things in.
31:07
Speaker 5: His way and how to love me as well.
31:09
Speaker 8: And we're constantly evolving, so we're not going to get
31:11
Speaker 8: it right every time. We've been together since I was
31:14
Speaker 8: twenty six. I'm forty five now, so it's like, yeah,
31:19
Speaker 8: thank you, thank you, but it's like us figuring out
31:22
Speaker 8: how to do that the right way for each other.
31:25
Speaker 5: And that's why I'm in therapy.
31:28
Speaker 1: You don't speak enough about how women misty blessings looking
31:31
Speaker 1: for height they can get a short king.
31:35
Speaker 8: You're saying my husband is almost like we're almost the same.
31:37
Speaker 8: Him that wasn't.
31:41
Speaker 3: Me that said that.
31:44
Speaker 5: Right now is well, here's the thing I understop it.
31:49
Speaker 8: You can find a great king because he's a great king.
31:52
Speaker 8: But it was for me. I did have that list.
31:55
Speaker 8: I had a crazy list. I actually found that list before.
31:58
Speaker 8: Yes I did. I did I have a list list.
32:02
Speaker 8: Oh you know, twenty I knew exactly I thought I
32:06
Speaker 8: knew what I wanted. But Tim gave me what I needed.
32:11
Speaker 8: And I think that that was the difference. I was
32:13
Speaker 8: saying that the other day, like I didn't know. I
32:17
Speaker 8: was so busy writing down what I wanted. I didn't
32:20
Speaker 8: know what I needed. And I think that experience makes
32:22
Speaker 8: you realize what you need. I think that you know
32:25
Speaker 8: as you're dating, you know, and figuring everything out, you
32:29
Speaker 8: can write everything down, like I'll never forget this. One
32:31
Speaker 8: time I was crying after a breakup and just in
32:34
Speaker 8: my head, in my hands, and being walks in and
32:39
Speaker 8: she goes, why are you crying? And I said because
32:43
Speaker 8: She's like, but tell me why are you crying?
32:46
Speaker 5: And I said, I don't know.
32:48
Speaker 8: She was like, what you need to be doing is
32:50
Speaker 8: take an inventory of what you did like about this
32:52
Speaker 8: situation so you'll be ready for the next one.
32:55
Speaker 5: And I was like, Mars, like it was. It was
32:59
Speaker 5: so good.
33:00
Speaker 8: And literally I stopped crying in that moment because I
33:02
Speaker 8: realized that what I was crying, I didn't even know
33:05
Speaker 8: why I was. It was the hype that I just
33:07
Speaker 8: lost a boyfriend, you know what I mean. And we
33:09
Speaker 8: get lost in that kind of sauce sometimes, like you
33:12
Speaker 8: have to actually start to take inventory and strategize on
33:15
Speaker 8: what it is that you need.
33:16
Speaker 1: So what's the difference between compromise and self betrayal in relationships?
33:21
Speaker 1: Then when you have a list, like, how do you
33:23
Speaker 1: know when you're compromising, you just betraying yourself.
33:26
Speaker 8: I mean I didn't feel like I was compromising anything.
33:29
Speaker 8: I think that's a self thing. Like I wanted to
33:35
Speaker 8: I just wanted to be honest with myself, you know
33:38
Speaker 8: what I mean. And I was just going from that.
33:40
Speaker 8: I wasn't thinking about compromising anything as much as it was.
33:44
Speaker 8: I just I like the way he speaks to me.
33:47
Speaker 8: I love the way he makes me feel when I'm
33:49
Speaker 8: around him. I love the fact that he took up
33:53
Speaker 8: from me and nobody's.
33:54
Speaker 5: Taking up for me. Like literally, I say, and I'll
33:56
Speaker 5: say it to this day.
33:57
Speaker 8: Tim is the greatest man I've ever known, Like, cause
34:01
Speaker 8: you got to remember, I got my daddy issues, you
34:03
Speaker 8: know what I mean.
34:04
Speaker 5: And until I met my dad a.
34:05
Speaker 8: Couple of years back, like, I didn't know what how
34:10
Speaker 8: messy that was and what kind of guy I was
34:12
Speaker 8: supposed to choose. I wasn't supposed to choose a Tim,
34:15
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. He was supposed to walk
34:17
Speaker 8: past me. But I thought more of myself to choose
34:21
Speaker 8: a good man.
34:23
Speaker 10: I saw you talk about your relationship with your dad
34:25
Speaker 10: and kind of you know how you being a mom
34:28
Speaker 10: has like, you know how that balance has been, But
34:30
Speaker 10: what has your relationship with Tim been like since you
34:34
Speaker 10: like having that stronger relationship with your dad.
34:36
Speaker 5: Oh, it's been great. It's been great.
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Speaker 8: He By the way, Tim was very protective, just transparently
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Speaker 8: speaking of me meeting my dad, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 5: And I had to talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 8: He was protective of me meeting my dad because he's
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Speaker 8: just like, I don't know what this is going to
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Speaker 8: open up for her, you know what I mean. It
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Speaker 8: was him thinking about it like that. But they get
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Speaker 8: along forew beautifully, you know.
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Speaker 3: And you wanted that, you wanted that I did.
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Speaker 5: I did, and I needed to see like where my
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Speaker 5: roots are from.
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Speaker 1: Do you know?
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Speaker 8: When I met my dad, I realized where I got
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Speaker 8: singing from, which was his mother. His mother was a
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Speaker 8: background singer for Lena Horn.
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Speaker 5: And Count Basie. I didn't know any of that.
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Speaker 8: So I got these beautiful gems and didn't know what
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Speaker 8: the other side of me was.
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Speaker 5: And then I look at Noah's face. No it looked
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Speaker 5: just like his mama, my dad's mom.
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Speaker 8: And it's just amazing to me because what if I
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Speaker 8: would have closed that off. That's why forgiveness is a
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Speaker 8: real thing. And I remember speaking to my big brother
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Speaker 8: about going to talk to my dad and he was.
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Speaker 5: Like, look, it's love. You either jump or you don't period.
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Speaker 4: See that growth yo.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, with my sister talking about growth math, you know,
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Speaker 1: hip hop has changed. He talks about relationships over the years,
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Speaker 1: like where do you think we're growing?
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Speaker 7: Where do you think we still stuck.
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Speaker 4: As far as hip hop? Oh, it's a lot of
35:57
Speaker 4: work to still be done, man.
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Speaker 9: I mean it starts with a lot of these gatekeepers
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Speaker 9: trying to dictate what this new generation should be doing,
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Speaker 9: you know, because honestly, when we was doing it, we
36:08
Speaker 9: had fun.
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Speaker 4: We was having a lot of fun.
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Speaker 9: And what I can give this new generation credit for
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Speaker 9: is that they did a lot more business than show
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Speaker 9: and the show business part of it. You know, we're
36:19
Speaker 9: creating generational wealth and they're the babies of that. And
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Speaker 9: I mean we could be in a way better place,
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Speaker 9: especially with the message of course, And when I was
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Speaker 9: doing it back in the day, I mean we Bu
36:34
Speaker 9: Tang had a message. Regardless of whether you heard gunshots
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Speaker 9: or swords, there was still a message there. And I
36:41
Speaker 9: think a lot of times the vibe gets lost for
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Speaker 9: the substance, the substance.
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Speaker 4: There's no substance in the vibe. The vibe has no substance.
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Speaker 9: And shit, and again I can't knock these kids for
36:52
Speaker 9: liking what they like, but I just wish it was
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Speaker 9: a bit more diversity, for lack of a better word.
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Speaker 4: But did the business hurt it?
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Speaker 2: You talk about the fund, you get things for funded
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Speaker 2: and business later, which was bad for pockets, But it
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Speaker 2: was natural.
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Speaker 7: I was thinking about it.
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Speaker 1: There was a level of emotional maturity that Mike had
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Speaker 1: had existed back then that maybe it may not exist
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Speaker 1: now because.
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Speaker 7: Like, even all I need that was that was our
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Speaker 7: relationship goal, right, everything in there, every line is what
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Speaker 7: you want.
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Speaker 9: Well, I think that my generation read a lot more books,
37:25
Speaker 9: We went outside, we touched dirt, you know, so experiences
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Speaker 9: king and to be honest, you know, and again this
37:31
Speaker 9: this generation, I'm not knocking anything they do because they're
37:34
Speaker 9: doing their numbers and it looks like they're having fun.
37:36
Speaker 9: I can live vicariously through some of these youngers, you know.
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Speaker 9: But again, substance, and you only think about these things
37:43
Speaker 9: when you get my age. You want something that matters,
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Speaker 9: something that you could feel hold, embracing, you know, really cherish.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, now I.
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Speaker 4: Got to ask us they got to leave it shortly.
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Speaker 2: Two guys, when you were performing at the ball plays
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Speaker 2: or pretential, which was.
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Speaker 5: Than I did.
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Speaker 8: That's why I said, no, I saw your face.
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Speaker 6: It's a different Just don't play with me.
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Speaker 8: No, but I saw her face and I lit up
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Speaker 8: because it was so nice to see, you know, because
38:17
Speaker 8: Jess is always really kind and really cool and I
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Speaker 8: really appreciate it. So when I see her, it's warmth always.
38:24
Speaker 4: Why Oh my.
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Speaker 6: God, I'm so excited to see you. Listen, my husband
38:28
Speaker 6: went crazy when you came out there. I said, yeah, exactly,
38:33
Speaker 6: but he me and said it like, you know, that's Kelly.
38:39
Speaker 8: I know.
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Speaker 6: About talking about you all night and I love it.
38:43
Speaker 6: I started talking about it with It's hard. She looked good,
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Speaker 6: congratulations on that, thank you killed it, and just loved it.
38:52
Speaker 6: You look so good.
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Speaker 4: All that love it.
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Speaker 1: What do y'all hold people to from this film that
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Speaker 1: they might not hear from their friends?
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Speaker 8: Oh, I think they go hear from their friends. I
39:05
Speaker 8: think what's interesting is when the movie goes off, is
39:08
Speaker 8: so quiet, you know what I mean, like in this way,
39:10
Speaker 8: and then it's like a chatter, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 8: and it's like, well, you know, it starts conversation. I
39:18
Speaker 8: hope it provokes conversation yet and right so that it
39:22
Speaker 8: like really encourages people to see the movie, see the message,
39:26
Speaker 8: see these characters, and not just know it's like not
39:29
Speaker 8: just about the Jared and Leah relationship.
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Speaker 5: It's the girlfriends too, the girlfriends, the.
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Speaker 8: Story, Yeah, and our like how beautiful it was that
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Speaker 8: as relationship goes for even the friends as well. That
39:43
Speaker 8: I don't want to give away too much, but it's
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Speaker 8: like the relationship with the girlfriends and everybody that's involved.
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Speaker 8: You see how relationship goes as a whole, not just romantically.
39:55
Speaker 8: Are just really important And yeah, that's that's what it is.
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Speaker 9: I mean, I just want people to root for these
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Speaker 9: people in this film, root for their relationships as well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and for me. I mean, I think it's one
40:07
Speaker 3: of the few movies that can actually change your life
40:09
Speaker 3: because when you look at the YouTube series and the
40:12
Speaker 3: relationship goes YouTube series and the relationship goes book change
40:15
Speaker 3: millions of people's lives for the better. And the same
40:18
Speaker 3: principles in the book in the YouTube series are in
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Speaker 3: the movie. So I think I want people to have
40:22
Speaker 3: a great experience. It's funny, it's a great entertaining film
40:25
Speaker 3: with two of the greatest actors on the planet, and
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Speaker 3: it can actually make you fix your aim in life
40:30
Speaker 3: and in love. And I think that it's a rare
40:32
Speaker 3: thing where you can watch a movie that entertains you,
40:34
Speaker 3: but it also makes you think, like, oh, shoot, there's
40:37
Speaker 3: some things I can actually change and I can apply
40:39
Speaker 3: what I saw in the film to my personal life.
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Speaker 1: And do you're not getting enough credit, man, because you
40:42
Speaker 1: know you wanted a few black men. That's not only
40:45
Speaker 1: you know, getting things made, getting things green liit, you know,
40:48
Speaker 1: casting a lot of black people, Like I don't think
40:50
Speaker 1: you get.
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Speaker 7: Enough credit for that.
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Speaker 1: Franklin Entertainment, he's very active. We see Davon a lot,
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Speaker 1: especially in the past three years.
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Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: But listen out today. Make sure you go get it.
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Speaker 2: Go check it out on Prime video. Relationship Goals. We
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Speaker 2: appreciate you for joining us, Devon Franklin at the Man,
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Speaker 2: Kelly Rowland, what us appreciate y'all hold on every day?
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Speaker 7: A week ago, pass up the breakfast club.
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Speaker 4: Finished for y'all. Done