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05/21/2025 Ask the Expert with Foster Foundation Repair · WCHS Network Podcasts

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Speaker 3: Twenty two minutes past the top of the hour, it
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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for tuning in on this Wednesday morning,
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Speaker 3: getting through the road race cycling here in downtown Charleston.
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Speaker 3: A few more days of that left, but what an
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Speaker 3: exciting tom I'll tell you what. Lots of visitors in
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Speaker 3: downtown Charleston walking around some yesterday and seeing folks from
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Speaker 3: other lands visiting us here. So it's kind of nice
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Speaker 3: doing that, and a lot of overorgy downtow. But that
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Speaker 3: means a little bit of a traffic situation too. You'll
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Speaker 3: just want to be aware of that. We give you
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Speaker 3: updates throughout the day and let you know the areas
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Speaker 3: that you might want to avoid, but there's races at
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Speaker 3: night that you might want to come and observe. You're
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Speaker 3: listening to ask the expert this morning and joining me
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Speaker 3: in the studio this morning is Brett Hodgton. He is
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Speaker 3: from Foster Foundation Repair and is with us here in
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Speaker 3: studio this morning, first time in our new studio. Bret,
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Speaker 3: good morning, how you doing this morning?
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Speaker 4: I'm doing well in this studio is quite nice.
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Speaker 3: It's nice. This is one of our smaller ones, but
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Speaker 3: it's very great, especially for one on one interviews like this.
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Speaker 3: And man, just the sound compression in here's great. It's
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Speaker 3: so much better than what our last studio was. We
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Speaker 3: have great discussions for you this morning. You can call.
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Speaker 3: We're back to our standard phone line, so you can
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Speaker 3: give us a call. It three zero four three four
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Speaker 3: fifth fifteen fifty eight. Three zero four, three four five
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Speaker 3: fifty eight fifty eight is our number you can call
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Speaker 3: this morning if you have any questions for Brett. When
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Speaker 3: it comes to a foundation repair and things around your
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Speaker 3: foundation at your home. There's all kinds of questions about that.
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Speaker 3: We're going to be addressing a lot of the issues
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Speaker 3: this morning. Brett has a lot of good information he
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Speaker 3: wants to share. But if you have a question about
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Speaker 3: your home, maybe something that's going on that you know
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Speaker 3: your neighbor told you, Hey, that's nothing to worry about.
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Speaker 3: Does your neighbor really know, maybe you should ask, Or
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Speaker 3: maybe you have a neighbor told you that's a huge
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Speaker 3: problem and you're concerned about it. Does your neighbor really know?
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Speaker 3: Maybe you should ask the questions. You can call this morning.
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Speaker 3: If you have any questions about your basement, your foundations,
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Speaker 3: anything along those lines. Brett complaint you in the right direction.
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Speaker 3: Three zero four three four five fifty eight fifty eight.
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Speaker 3: Three zero four, three four five fifty eight fifty eight.
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Speaker 3: It's been a month or so since I've seen how
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Speaker 3: you doing. Man, Everything all right, I'm doing well. We're
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Speaker 3: very busy.
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Speaker 4: The weather slowing us down today, but fortunately we have
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Speaker 4: certain things we can pivot to. But yeah, we're staying
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Speaker 4: very busy. It's that time of year for us.
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Speaker 3: I was unfortunately, oh it was a two days ago
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Speaker 3: whenever we had the last relatively heavy rain. I was
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Speaker 3: getting out of my car at lunch and walking towards
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Speaker 3: my house and saw a little standing water in my
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Speaker 3: yard and was like, oh, I bet Brett wouldn't be
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Speaker 3: very happy with that. Yeah, things that happen. I know,
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Speaker 3: I have some draining's just used in my yard. I
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Speaker 3: talk about it all the time, but it's just one
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Speaker 3: of those things that pop up every once in a while.
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Speaker 3: So if you have any questions this morning, give us
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Speaker 3: a call. We're going to talk a lot about foundations
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Speaker 3: this morning and some of the some of the situations
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Speaker 3: around foundations, try to backfill some of the information that
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Speaker 3: you have or may not have to allow you to
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Speaker 3: make education educated decision. And if you need bread services
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Speaker 3: or not, you can give us a call and find
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Speaker 3: out more as we go along this morning. But there's
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Speaker 3: a lot that goes into we talk about it a
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Speaker 3: lot on this program, but it is true we are
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Speaker 3: in an area where foundation repair and I guess foundation
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Speaker 3: observation almost is pre resquit to be a homeowner because
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Speaker 3: we have a lot of unique soil configurations and different
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Speaker 3: things like that around here. That really means that we
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Speaker 3: have a lot of activity potentially in our foundations.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we have a lot of unique construction practices
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Speaker 4: with forty fifty foot tall foundations on the backside sometimes.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, it does require probably a different approach here
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Speaker 4: in Charleston than many other parts of the country. I
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Speaker 4: know there for a long time. It's not that way currently,
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Speaker 4: but there was five or six engineers completely making a
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Speaker 4: living off doing resisidential foundation inspections.
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Speaker 3: Is that right?
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Speaker 4: And we're down to probably two or three locally now,
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Speaker 4: But at one point in time it was I don't
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Speaker 4: even want to say it was very competitive. We I
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Speaker 4: didn't feel like anybody was really competing with anybody. Everybody
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Speaker 4: was still still as busy as they could be, so
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Speaker 4: just that much business. Yeah, and it's unfortunately there's only
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Speaker 4: a handful of doing it now, so it's not so
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Speaker 4: they're not they're very busy, and unfortunately people aren't getting
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Speaker 4: the servant that service like they once did.
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Speaker 3: One thing. You know, we've talked about the importance of
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Speaker 3: foundation repair almost in a here's the situation and what
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Speaker 3: is doing right to that area, But in very real terms,
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Speaker 3: if we're talking about someone say that you're living in
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Speaker 3: a house, you have no plans of moving or anything else,
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Speaker 3: You're like, who cares, what's happened? I have this crack.
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Speaker 3: Who cares what happens with my foundation? I'm not selling
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Speaker 3: this house. I want to live here until I pass
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Speaker 3: and I don't have any family, not going to give
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Speaker 3: it to anybody who cares? Who cares? Who cares? What's
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Speaker 3: what's the ultimate? If you just like like those old
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Speaker 3: History Channel documentaries like Life After People. If if you're
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Speaker 3: living in your home but you're and you have a
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Speaker 3: foundation issue, but you just decide, you know, not something
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Speaker 3: I'm going to concern myself with. What are some of
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Speaker 3: the things you're going to start seeing happen to your
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Speaker 3: home over time?
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Speaker 4: So if you're having an active movement, you're going to
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Speaker 4: start Depending on the type of movement, of course, cracks
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Speaker 4: might enlarge, doors may start sticking, windows may quit working.
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Speaker 4: As I was at a house a little two weeks
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Speaker 4: ago where has a casement. Casement windows which are the
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Speaker 4: type of window that that swing out, and that type
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Speaker 4: of window when when a window frame gets out of
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Speaker 4: square that creates pressure in the window can combine and
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Speaker 4: quit working. Normally, a double hung window which goes up
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Speaker 4: and down, we will continue to operate in that scenario.
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Speaker 4: But you're starting to look for things that are that
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Speaker 4: are changing doors, windows that no longer function like they
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Speaker 4: once did, and of course cracks that are developing in
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Speaker 4: the brick the block or even interior finishes. Uneven floors,
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Speaker 4: of course be another one.
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Speaker 3: I've been in a house before. Actually it was back
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Speaker 3: when I was in real estate. Well, when I did mortgages.
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Speaker 3: We travel to people's homes and sometimes you talk to
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Speaker 3: somebody over the phone, you don't know what their house
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Speaker 3: looks like, and you go out to their house, and
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Speaker 3: it's kind of my company's way of doing like a
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Speaker 3: pre check before we call it out in an appraise
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Speaker 3: or anything else. I literally went to a house one time.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what the grade of the angle was
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Speaker 3: that the that the flooring was throughout the house, but
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Speaker 3: it was. It was not flat. It was at least
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Speaker 3: three four or five six degrees off where I mean,
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Speaker 3: if you put ball bearings on one end, it would
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Speaker 3: roll quickly to the other end. It was very uncomfortable
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Speaker 3: just to stand in the home, let alone live in it.
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Speaker 3: I found it amazing that people live there.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that certainly can be the I've seen. Probably
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Speaker 4: the worst house I've seen is from front to rear.
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Speaker 4: There was this house had been in part of a
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Speaker 4: slip and it was six inches out of level from
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Speaker 4: one end of the house, went well from front to
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Speaker 4: rear over about twenty five thirty feet, so it was
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Speaker 4: very noticeable.
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Speaker 3: That's like a I mean there's like a bike course.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's really bad.
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Speaker 4: It was occupied too.
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Speaker 3: Oh man, I just so these are I mean, you
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Speaker 3: don't want to live in that kind of environment. And
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Speaker 3: and yes, you can get kind of sort of blind
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Speaker 3: to some of these things that happens. Oh hey, my
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Speaker 3: windows have been sticking forever around the front. This door
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Speaker 3: has never really shut, so I stuff have to shove
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Speaker 3: a towe underneath it because it's not making a good
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Speaker 3: scene at night or whatever it might be. Eventually, these
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Speaker 3: things are going to lead to problems where your house
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Speaker 3: where it's just gonna there's gonna be so many issues
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Speaker 3: that you're gonna lose energy efficiency, you're going to there's
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Speaker 3: a lot of problems that's going to happen. Let alone
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Speaker 3: the fact if you ever need to resell your house,
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Speaker 3: refinance your house, or anything along those lines, it's really
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Speaker 3: going to put you out of pocket for that.
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Speaker 4: It is and I don't want to say in every instance,
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Speaker 4: but In many cases, if if the situation is addressed early,
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Speaker 4: it can be addressed at a less, less intrusive or
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Speaker 4: aggressive approach. Some cases it can just be addressing drainage.
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Speaker 4: You know, I'll typically if a person doesn't have the
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Speaker 4: any any plan to sell, we'll probably start with some
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Speaker 4: noninvasive inspections like dounce about drains, any any type of
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Speaker 4: drain and ground drain that we can get to. We'll
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Speaker 4: start with those to see see if we can identify
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Speaker 4: a cause of whatever the issue is and then hopefully
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Speaker 4: address that cause and then and then monitor it and
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Speaker 4: see if it will uh stabilize and prevent prevent that
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Speaker 4: from continuing.
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Speaker 3: And and that's important. You have to stay you thing
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Speaker 3: haves to observe and make sure that things aren't going
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Speaker 3: to get worse or if there's any other repairs you
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Speaker 3: need to put in. You mentioned a couple of the
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Speaker 3: factors when it comes to foundations moving, what I find
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Speaker 3: is fascinating. We spoke before about how a home is
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Speaker 3: almost like a like a living organism, and that goes
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Speaker 3: with the surroundings and the environment of it as well.
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Speaker 3: And it's odd to me. I was doing some reading
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Speaker 3: and when it comes to foundations and for things like that.
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Speaker 3: And I saw that you have it on your notes
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Speaker 3: that you're brought here this morning. Why do foundations move?
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Speaker 3: They can move for a couple of different reasons, including
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Speaker 3: too much water and drought, not enough water. You really
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Speaker 3: have a balance in there that you're looking for for
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Speaker 3: your foundation.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And over the last twelve months, we've experienced kind
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Speaker 4: of the extremes of both. I would say for our
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Speaker 4: region they were the extremes. We had a severe drought
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Speaker 4: last fall last summer, which led to a lot of
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Speaker 4: settlement issues. Pretty Much every call I was looking at
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Speaker 4: through that period of time was addressing a drought related
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Speaker 4: settlement issue to the point where or when we got
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Speaker 4: to actually go out. By the time we got to
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Speaker 4: the repair, in some instances, the cracks had closed where
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Speaker 4: the soil had rehydrated and and caused the foundation to heave,
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Speaker 4: so it it We certainly have seen the extremes now
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Speaker 4: in that in those cases every client we've we were
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Speaker 4: h contracted with actually decided to continue with the repair
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Speaker 4: because they they said, well, the next route it's gonna
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Speaker 4: it's gonna happen again. And and you know, I generally
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Speaker 4: concurred with them. It was kind of we had the
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Speaker 4: discussion at that point, well, what do you want to do?
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Speaker 4: I mean, just the cracks have closed, but uh, I
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Speaker 4: guess the the source or the potential is still there.
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Speaker 4: So they every one of them so far has elected
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Speaker 4: to proceed with the with the repair.
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Speaker 3: And uh it seems like that that's that's just the
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Speaker 3: correct and the cautious move to make, because you want
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Speaker 3: to be able to plan for these things in the
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Speaker 3: future when you have these different varieties of things that
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Speaker 3: can affect you, and and when it comes to even
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Speaker 3: the innudation we talk about have extremely wet seasons and
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Speaker 3: stuff like that, which can certainly affect things, but also
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Speaker 3: just the configuration of your home when it comes to
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Speaker 3: water penetration could cause some issues. There's grading issues that
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Speaker 3: you can have even if you're not having a necessarily
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Speaker 3: exceptionally wet season. If you have bad grading, gutters and
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Speaker 3: downspouts that aren't routed correctly, there's other things you could
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Speaker 3: have other than it just being hey, it's a wet season.
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Speaker 3: Your house could also not be configured properly to handle
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Speaker 3: the moisture we do have.
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Speaker 4: That's correct, you could have, yes, just like you mentioned
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Speaker 4: poor drainage issues. You know, some houses are kind of
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Speaker 4: a U shaped where there's has two wings with a
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Speaker 4: recessed area, and sometimes that water is getting directed in
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Speaker 4: there and it just has nowhere to go but down
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Speaker 4: against the foundation or down to the foundation drain, which
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Speaker 4: is not a desirable You never want your foundation drain
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Speaker 4: to be a primary drainage feature for a property. That
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Speaker 4: should always kind of be the last resort that manages
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Speaker 4: as little water as possible. We want to try to
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Speaker 4: manage everything at the surface with down spoutscutters, surface strainage,
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Speaker 4: or surface strangage features such as storm drains, catch basins,
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Speaker 4: French strange things of that nature.
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Speaker 3: One of the things I thought we could caution folks
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Speaker 3: on as well as I had one of these stuck
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Speaker 3: into my mailbox a couple weeks ago. Somebody going around
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Speaker 3: sticking in flyers about hey, check your foundation, different things
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Speaker 3: like that, and I noticed that the information that they
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Speaker 3: provide on their slips on the people that do these
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Speaker 3: types of things are not the same type of information
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Speaker 3: that we talk about on this program. The number one
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Speaker 3: they lead with price, it seems like it's like and
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Speaker 3: then there's certain things that they detail that I wonder
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Speaker 3: about the like quick fixes and things like that. You
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Speaker 3: really have to be careful when you're selecting a service
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Speaker 3: provider regardless, I mean just as yourself, as someone who's
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Speaker 3: not only an engineer but does foundation inspections and repair.
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Speaker 3: There's always going to be somebody out there looking to
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Speaker 3: pull the thread on a shortcut that may not be
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Speaker 3: the best solution for it, or may even be a
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Speaker 3: catastrophic quote unquote solution.
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Speaker 4: Yes, this industry has changed over probably the last five
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Speaker 4: to ten year years where the goal of the industry
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Speaker 4: has to try to figure out the cheapest way to
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Speaker 4: address the most common cookie cutter and cookie cutter issues,
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Speaker 4: and that's essentially what is being pushed on the clients,
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Speaker 4: and that is not always the best. Sure, sometimes it'll work,
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Speaker 4: a lot of times it won't. It will get it'll
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Speaker 4: it'll work long enough for the check to clear. But
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Speaker 4: you know, I'm looking at five to ten I'm looking
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Speaker 4: at twenty thirty year repairs is what I'm looking for.
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Speaker 4: I'm looking for repairs that are going to be still
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Speaker 4: in service when I when I'm done and gone retired
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Speaker 4: from this industry. Because I don't want to get called
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Speaker 4: back callbacks on failed issues. So yeah, there's definitely that issue.
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Speaker 4: I was actually reading some warranty documentation from another company
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Speaker 4: and they actually had to define what lateral movement was,
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Speaker 4: and they defined it in a manner which excluded three
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Speaker 4: of the four types of lateral movement. And essentially what
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Speaker 4: they were what they were doing is they were their
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Speaker 4: lateral movement is defined as the typical weak point in
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Speaker 4: a wall. So what they would plan on doing is
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Speaker 4: reinforcing the wall to resist that type of movement. But
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Speaker 4: all they have done is changed the weak point of
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Speaker 4: the wall. So now you've you've created an increased potential
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Speaker 4: for a different type of movement, which typically requires the
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Speaker 4: same repair that should have been done the first time,
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Speaker 4: or creates a more expensive repair in the long run.
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Speaker 4: For example, in a lateral movement issue, if you end
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Speaker 4: up with base base wall shear, which is a horizontal
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Speaker 4: crack or a horizontal offset that develops at the base
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Speaker 4: of the wall, that that results in, I mean, you're
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Speaker 4: into big money no matter what you how you address that,
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Speaker 4: because now you're going to very likely have water entry
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Speaker 4: as well as the foundation movement.
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Speaker 3: Bred Hauston is our guest this morning. You're listening to
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Speaker 3: ask the expert with Foster Foundation Repair. You can find
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Speaker 3: in your questions to as well. Is there a better time,
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Speaker 3: a best or better time of year to get your
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Speaker 3: foundation inspected in this region? Or is it doesn't really matter?
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Speaker 2: Uh?
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Speaker 4: No, it doesn't really matter. I mean it's I mean
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Speaker 4: my process is to evalue, visually evaluate the foundation for cracks,
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Speaker 4: and then you know, if I'm if I'm seeing anything
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Speaker 4: that looks like there's a settlement issue, then I'm going
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Speaker 4: to utilize a laser level to to in some manner,
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Speaker 4: either inside or outside, to try to substantiate what the
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Speaker 4: cracks are telling me visually. So no, I mean, I
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Speaker 4: don't go through the same process now that that I'm
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Speaker 4: in the contractor roles I used to. I used to
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Speaker 4: sort of identify do an exhaustive review of the foundation.
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Speaker 4: Now my approach is more based on what the client
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Speaker 4: directs me to. Yeah, and then of course if I
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Speaker 4: see anything else, I bring it up and say do
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Speaker 4: you want to get into this and talk about this?
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Speaker 4: But no, I mean it doesn't. Typically people are going
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Speaker 4: to it's going to typically get inspected when the house
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Speaker 4: is being bought or sold by well bought by the buyers.
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Speaker 4: Typically when it comes up or oftentimes a seller will
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Speaker 4: have a crack and they'll do a pre pre list
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Speaker 4: inspection so they can get a report and lay it
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Speaker 4: on the counter and say whether it's good or bad
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Speaker 4: or you know, here's the here's the fix, here's the
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Speaker 4: lost from a contract or something. But no, I mean,
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Speaker 4: I think for your average homeowner, it's it's typically anytime
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Speaker 4: you you feel there has been a change. I don't
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Speaker 4: I'm not a huge advocate of just, you know, annual,
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Speaker 4: annually paying somebody to come to an inspect right, I'd
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Speaker 4: certainly be happy for that, But I don't think that's warranted.
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Speaker 4: I think it's it's more on a you know, an
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Speaker 4: issue based need if you see it, and really the
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Speaker 4: time of year. You know, it's very dependent on the
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Speaker 4: time of year of what I'm looking at and what
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Speaker 4: I'm considering as as factors. You know, of course I'm
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Speaker 4: going to think very differently during a drought than I
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Speaker 4: am going to be during the debt of winner, of
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Speaker 4: what what the cause might be. So no, I think
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Speaker 4: you know, anytimes, anytime's perfectly fine. If if there's a
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Speaker 4: a need rises.
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Speaker 3: That's great information. As always one thing, I thought we
16:52
Speaker 3: could get out of here and then we'll take a
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Speaker 3: break and come back. I was looking at the different
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Speaker 3: types of foundations. You provided a list on some of
16:58
Speaker 3: the some of the common ones around here, and I
16:59
Speaker 3: was I was king if if if folks on their
17:02
Speaker 3: found if there's a particular type of foundations that's common
17:04
Speaker 3: to the area where folks should be extra aware of
17:07
Speaker 3: potential issues. Is there is there a type of foundation
17:10
Speaker 3: that you've run into that you know, hey, if you
17:12
Speaker 3: have this type of home after so long, you're going
17:14
Speaker 3: to potentially start seeing these problems more common than you
17:17
Speaker 3: are in other ones where this particular type of foundation
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Speaker 3: has this one unique issue that I see come up.
17:21
Speaker 3: Is there any any tips that you can give homeowers
17:23
Speaker 3: with a particular type of foundation or is it not
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Speaker 3: really anything that comes up like that?
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Speaker 4: So, the most common foundations we have in our region
17:29
Speaker 4: are are a basement, crass space, a basement, a crawl space,
17:32
Speaker 4: and less common a concrete slab on grade. Now we
17:35
Speaker 4: do have a lot of garage floors, of course, but
17:37
Speaker 4: true foundation slab on grades, we don't have a large
17:43
Speaker 4: amount of those. I'm seeing a few up in the
17:46
Speaker 4: Buffalo area. There's a neighborhood out there, new development out
17:50
Speaker 4: there they are building some of My mother in law
17:52
Speaker 4: just bought one on a slab, but at the basements.
17:55
Speaker 4: So we have what are called restrained retaining walls for
17:58
Speaker 4: our basements, which essentially means that wall is being held
18:02
Speaker 4: in place by the floor overhead and the basement floor slab.
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Speaker 4: Different than what would be considered a rigid retaining wall,
18:09
Speaker 4: which is completely self supporting it requires no outside support
18:14
Speaker 4: to prevent displacement. But our common basements, the most common
18:19
Speaker 4: basement that we see in this area is restrained, so
18:22
Speaker 4: it requires again the floor diaphragm overhead, so the wall
18:27
Speaker 4: leans on the top of the floor at the top
18:30
Speaker 4: and then to prevent sliding it it's pinned by the
18:33
Speaker 4: basement floor slab. And the vast majority of homes built
18:38
Speaker 4: from the fifties to the eighties in this region that
18:40
Speaker 4: were basements were unreinforced CMU or concrete masonry unit walls,
18:45
Speaker 4: so we oftentimes develop a horizontal crack right down the
18:48
Speaker 4: middle of the wall that has a resulted that is
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Speaker 4: caused by the wall boeing from the lateral earth pressure
18:54
Speaker 4: and water pressure acting against the wall. So that's probably
18:58
Speaker 4: one of the most common UH failure modes that we see.
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Speaker 4: And back to that warranty topic I touched on on
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Speaker 4: it earlier, that's that's the that was the defined movement
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Speaker 4: that was going to be addressed by that company. They
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Speaker 4: were excluding any other type of movement with their repair,
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Speaker 4: which boeing is the most common, and it can be
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Speaker 4: it can be fixed with various means, but it doesn't
19:25
Speaker 4: prevent the floor from basically pushing through the other end
19:30
Speaker 4: of the house, causing the entire building to rake or
19:32
Speaker 4: lean to the opposite side. And and if you're only
19:36
Speaker 4: addressing that bowing, it's not providing any sheer resistance at
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Speaker 4: the base of the wall, which is where the largest
19:43
Speaker 4: sheer force develops is at the base of the wall.
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Speaker 3: Outstanding information and UH and really useful information from Brett
19:49
Speaker 3: Hodgston from Foster Foundation Repair. You can call this whey,
19:52
Speaker 3: I want to take a break now if you want
19:53
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19:55
Speaker 3: basement foundation, some problems that you might have or maybe
19:58
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20:00
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20:02
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Speaker 3: Foundation Repair dot com. Foster Foundation Repair dot Com. From
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Speaker 3: the three zero four three eight nine. We're on a
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Speaker 3: hillside lot and every heavy rain sends water towards the house.
22:33
Speaker 3: We've tried French drains, but it's still damp under the
22:36
Speaker 3: cross space. Are we just stuck with this?
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Speaker 4: No, it's fixable. Oh, like it always fixable. So French
22:44
Speaker 4: strains French trains. Some people consider call a a foundation
22:50
Speaker 4: drain a French drain. I consider a French drain a
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Speaker 4: surface drain, a drain that is collecting water that's running
22:56
Speaker 4: across the ground. So often times French trains that I evaluate,
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Speaker 4: and maybe the only reason I'm evaluating them is because
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Speaker 4: they don't work. They're not done well. A quality installed
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Speaker 4: French train will divert a large amount of water away
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Speaker 4: from the foundation. But what you may also need is
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Speaker 4: a new foundation waterproofing. Excuse me and drainage system, which
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Speaker 4: is essentially a French drain, but it is located adjacent
23:27
Speaker 4: to the footer and so with proper surface water management,
23:32
Speaker 4: water is diverted around the house and then at the
23:35
Speaker 4: foundation of the house there is a foundation drain back
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Speaker 4: filled with gravel, and then a waterproofing system against the
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Speaker 4: foundation which will prevent any moisture penetrating the wall. The
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Speaker 4: waterproofing system we installed is a commercial grade waterproofing system
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Speaker 4: I've seen in architectural plans locally that engineers and architects
23:58
Speaker 4: have drawn up. It's the same one always specked out
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Speaker 4: as when I was just an engineering doing design work.
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Speaker 4: That was the the waterproofing system that I specified as
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Speaker 4: a Carlisle system. It's a self adhering rubber membrane that
24:11
Speaker 4: goes against the wall, and then after that's installed, there
24:15
Speaker 4: is a vertical drainage board which is a nippled, nippled
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Speaker 4: plastic membrane with a filter cloth on it that goes
24:22
Speaker 4: vertically against the wall. So any any water that gets
24:26
Speaker 4: to the to the foundation hits hits that filter drains
24:29
Speaker 4: through it into that nippled membrane and straight down to
24:32
Speaker 4: the foot or drain but we're also backfilling with gravel.
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Speaker 4: It's the likelihood that water is going to get actually
24:37
Speaker 4: get to the foundation's pretty darn low. But no, it's
24:40
Speaker 4: it's certainly a fixable issue. There are also ways to
24:43
Speaker 4: handle it from the inside. There are water management systems
24:46
Speaker 4: where where the water can be once it gets in,
24:49
Speaker 4: it can be collected and diverted in either to a
24:52
Speaker 4: sump pump or to the exterior and then so that
24:56
Speaker 4: would handle the liquid water. And then on top of
24:58
Speaker 4: that you can always go with a crawl space encapsulation system,
25:03
Speaker 4: which is a wonderful system that's going to manage the
25:06
Speaker 4: water vapor in the crawl space as well as the
25:10
Speaker 4: house quite quite efficiently, and it really improves the indoor
25:17
Speaker 4: air quality. It's a very clean system. They're quite attractive
25:22
Speaker 4: just you know, just to look at. They're a very
25:23
Speaker 4: nice looking product if done well. But no, you are
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Speaker 4: not stuck. There are there are fixes for it depending
25:30
Speaker 4: on your site. Sometimes you know, proper French drainage and
25:37
Speaker 4: you know, diverting water through drainage features like drainage swales
25:41
Speaker 4: may not be possible, but there are certainly ways to
25:44
Speaker 4: manage the water in a manner that will prevent future damage.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so there, if you have any follow ups on
25:50
Speaker 3: that's that's a great answer. And if you have any
25:51
Speaker 3: follow ups on that, if you want to give Bread
25:53
Speaker 3: a call for Foster Foundation refair seven seveny six sixty
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Speaker 3: two sixty three, you can call us. Threes are four
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Speaker 3: three four five fifty to fifty eight three four five
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Speaker 3: fifty fifteen more welcome to call us this morning. Another
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Speaker 3: text question coming in from the threes or four three
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Speaker 3: eight nine. My home inspectory didn't mention any foundation problems
26:07
Speaker 3: when we've bought the home last year, but now doors
26:10
Speaker 3: are sticking and we've got maybe a slightly sloped floor.
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Speaker 4: Should I be concerned, Well, it's certainly something to look at.
26:17
Speaker 4: A slope floor could be from various things. Could be
26:21
Speaker 4: foundation settlement, perimeter. Foundation settlement could be an isolated peer
26:25
Speaker 4: that has settled. It could be a defect in the
26:29
Speaker 4: original construction of the framing systems that may or may
26:34
Speaker 4: not be a significant, significant issue that may or may
26:39
Speaker 4: not need to be repaired. But inspection would certainly give
26:44
Speaker 4: you more insight and if done with a somebody that's reasonable,
26:51
Speaker 4: they'll give you, you know, kind of lay it out
26:53
Speaker 4: as how severe the condition is and whether it represents,
26:57
Speaker 4: you know, a long term issue, whether it represents a
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Speaker 4: work term safety issue or something of that nature, which
27:02
Speaker 4: is pretty rare that there's a safety issue, but it's
27:05
Speaker 4: certainly something that might be warranted looking at and that's
27:11
Speaker 4: something we do. We we would certainly come out and
27:13
Speaker 4: take a look at that and offer a free estimate.
27:15
Speaker 4: That's great or evaluation, you know if it if it
27:17
Speaker 4: doesn't need anything, I'll be perfectly honest with you.
27:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the peace of mind that that gives
27:22
Speaker 3: you something else that you you really can't you can't
27:25
Speaker 3: really attach any kind of value for that. And when
27:27
Speaker 3: you're just getting an evaluation, that's an evaluation and to
27:29
Speaker 3: get and to kind of be able to put that
27:31
Speaker 3: out of your mind. If it's something you're concerned about,
27:33
Speaker 3: that's uh, that's that's quite that's quite something else. That's
27:36
Speaker 3: a peace of mind is always worth something, that's for sure.
27:38
Speaker 5: Uh.
27:39
Speaker 3: Let me see. I have another text question. This is
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Speaker 3: from the three zero four five to five two Great Show.
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Speaker 3: I often deal with blasting damage claims from nearby construction
27:46
Speaker 3: and mining projects, and that's always the reason for claims.
27:49
Speaker 3: That's interesting you can have a foundation repair from that.
27:52
Speaker 3: I never even thought about that. I guess I could
27:53
Speaker 3: see that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a friend that's in highway construction and
27:57
Speaker 4: and he's had he's had claims before from their their work.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, that certainly is a potential source. I remember
28:07
Speaker 4: there was the train explosion or the train derailment what
28:11
Speaker 4: down south a little bit from here. Yeah, I remember
28:13
Speaker 4: hearing some complaints about that that they caused the cracks,
28:18
Speaker 4: and they're certainly they're certainly engineers locally that specialize and
28:21
Speaker 4: that's what their their focus is on. I would have
28:24
Speaker 4: maybe gotten into that kind of work previously. I don't
28:27
Speaker 4: have the time for it now. But there are definitely
28:29
Speaker 4: things that are forensic inspections that that we do in
28:34
Speaker 4: this area that look for specific things to see if
28:38
Speaker 4: that's a fresh crack, or if that's maybe been patched
28:41
Speaker 4: ten times and you've had an ongoing issue for you five, ten,
28:45
Speaker 4: fifteen years, and this is just progression of that situation.
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Speaker 3: So a few minutes left on the program. You're welcome
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Speaker 3: fifty eight threes zerre of three four five fifty to
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Speaker 3: fifty eight. Picking back through the information that you gave
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Speaker 3: me when you came in this morning, we talked a
29:05
Speaker 3: little bit before we went to the break about the
29:07
Speaker 3: lateral movement and you were defining some of the some
29:10
Speaker 3: of the terms on that and what some folks were
29:11
Speaker 3: using for that. I see that you have a panel
29:13
Speaker 3: and the information that you brought me talking about vertical
29:15
Speaker 3: movement of a foundation. What is that?
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Speaker 4: So typically you think vertical movement is going to be
29:21
Speaker 4: found differential settlement or settlement of some type. There's a
29:24
Speaker 4: couple of different types of settlement. You've got the initial settlement,
29:27
Speaker 4: which is basically, you build a house, it's going to
29:30
Speaker 4: have some degree of settlement. The big building designers they
29:36
Speaker 4: they're trying to their goal is to get uniform settlement,
29:40
Speaker 4: where the whole building creeps down very slightly. Differential settlement
29:44
Speaker 4: is typically when you're going to get some cracking that develops,
29:49
Speaker 4: like when a corner settles off away from the rest
29:51
Speaker 4: of the house, or maybe an addition tilts away from
29:56
Speaker 4: an original structure, and then we have tipping settlement, which
29:59
Speaker 4: can be quite severe where the whole building sort of
30:03
Speaker 4: tips in one direction from one end to the other,
30:07
Speaker 4: and you can actually have pretty significant tipping settlement without
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Speaker 4: the development of cracks and an addressing. Tipping settlement can
30:14
Speaker 4: be quite difficult if it's a progressive, if it's an
30:18
Speaker 4: ongoing and progressive concern, because essentially end up having to
30:22
Speaker 4: underpin the entire foundation, which which would get very expensive.
30:25
Speaker 4: And tipping settlement really can only be picked up with
30:28
Speaker 4: with laser levels, you know, some sort of leveling device
30:32
Speaker 4: to measure for elevation.
30:35
Speaker 3: What is the likelihood that that new builds will have
30:39
Speaker 3: some sort I mean you're going to have settlement period.
30:41
Speaker 3: I mean there's going to be settlement. When you put
30:42
Speaker 3: weight on dirt, there's going to be settlement. You're just
30:45
Speaker 3: going to get that. But what is the likelihood that
30:47
Speaker 3: you're actually going to after your settlement? What is I
30:49
Speaker 3: saw in your information two to four years is your
30:51
Speaker 3: typical initial settlement amount. Is it possible for that settlement
30:54
Speaker 3: just for not to have been installed correctly or unforeseen
30:58
Speaker 3: issues and actually to develop problems when a new build.
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Speaker 4: Yes, yes it is. I mean to me, the especially
31:06
Speaker 4: like production houses, production neighborhoods. The drainage is like the
31:11
Speaker 4: last concern. It's the kitchen, it's the bathrooms.
31:14
Speaker 3: Subdivisions like a pre prefab subdivisions or whatever.
31:17
Speaker 4: Okay, all the pretty stuff is all that matters, right
31:19
Speaker 4: to everybody. Your common homeowners not going to walk in
31:23
Speaker 4: and say, how'd you do my drains? Nobody's thinking about them.
31:29
Speaker 4: It's just assumed. And they're commonly just slapped in there
31:33
Speaker 4: just so they're functional.
31:35
Speaker 3: Uh.
31:35
Speaker 4: It's very common for those to be damaged during backfill.
31:38
Speaker 4: Uh you're just dumping a bunch of dirt with rocks
31:40
Speaker 4: in it and it collapses the pipe. So it's certainly possible.
31:46
Speaker 4: Of course, it all depends on the builder. We have
31:49
Speaker 4: all both both ends of the spectrum here in the
31:52
Speaker 4: in the valley with very good quality builders and less
31:57
Speaker 4: I'll just say, and and then some people don'tnderstand the
32:00
Speaker 4: significance of of the of water, of the drain pipes
32:03
Speaker 4: and how important they are.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again, if you have any questions about those things,
32:09
Speaker 3: or if you need to follow up with those, you
32:10
Speaker 3: can give Foster Foundation Repair a call. Three zero four
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Speaker 3: seven seven six sixty two sixty three. We're running out
32:14
Speaker 3: of time this morning, you can still try to squeeze
32:16
Speaker 3: in here the last couple of minutes we have at
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Speaker 3: three zero four, three four five fifty eight fifteen. Another
32:20
Speaker 3: text question that came in we got some crack. Well,
32:23
Speaker 3: this is a great question for We address this at
32:27
Speaker 3: some degree with every show, and I don't think we
32:29
Speaker 3: necessarily did today, So this will be a great question
32:30
Speaker 3: for us to maybe wrap up the show. One, we've
32:32
Speaker 3: got some cracks in our basement walls and one runs
32:34
Speaker 3: through the floor. How do I know if it's settling
32:36
Speaker 3: or if we have real problems. That's basically your job,
32:39
Speaker 3: that is, that.
32:40
Speaker 2: Is my job.
32:40
Speaker 4: So oftentimes I don't want to say all the time,
32:44
Speaker 4: but oftentimes cracks in a slab or they're not necessarily
32:50
Speaker 4: a major issue. They can be a function of whatever
32:53
Speaker 4: other movement is occurring. The only way to know the cause,
32:59
Speaker 4: which is where I'm going to start the cause of
33:01
Speaker 4: the crack, is to hire somebody that is experienced in
33:06
Speaker 4: identifying what that cause is and then the likelihood that
33:09
Speaker 4: that movement would continue. Uh, if it's a small hairline
33:14
Speaker 4: crack from from some settlement, that's and you're not playing
33:18
Speaker 4: on going anywhere we're typically going to start looking for
33:21
Speaker 4: drainage issues that we can address and then hopefully monitor
33:24
Speaker 4: that foundation so it doesn't move. If it's a lateral
33:27
Speaker 4: movement issue on an unreinforced basement wall, normally that's going
33:32
Speaker 4: to be something that's going to be a progressive issue
33:34
Speaker 4: that's going to need some sort of action to prevent
33:37
Speaker 4: that from from progressing. Even if you know we've we've
33:43
Speaker 4: we've done we've done drainage improvements to reduce the amount
33:47
Speaker 4: of water flowing towards a house for lateral movement and
33:49
Speaker 4: monitored it. The the chances are lower that that's going
33:54
Speaker 4: to be a successful permanent fix. But sometimes that's the clients.
33:58
Speaker 4: You know, they don't have the funds to go with
34:00
Speaker 4: the big one, so we do what we can to
34:04
Speaker 4: limit the risk of future movement. But to directly answer
34:08
Speaker 4: the question, is somebody that is experienced in this industry,
34:14
Speaker 4: preferably an engineer, because they are we have some ethics
34:19
Speaker 4: we have to abide by, Rather than just a salesperson
34:26
Speaker 4: from a foundation repair company. I think the most appappropriate
34:30
Speaker 4: person to assess the situation as an engineer who especially
34:35
Speaker 4: that works in residential foundation inspection and repair.
34:40
Speaker 3: You bring up a very good point there, and uh,
34:43
Speaker 3: I'm sure people think about this to some degree, but
34:45
Speaker 3: the real imbalance when it comes to something like foundations,
34:49
Speaker 3: I don't care how unless it's just something that for
34:51
Speaker 3: some reason you dabbled in when you were maybe when
34:55
Speaker 3: you had a job out of college or something like that,
34:57
Speaker 3: and you didn't really do it. Most people have zero
35:00
Speaker 3: zero knowledge joined this type of thing. And so the
35:03
Speaker 3: trust that you have to build with the person who's
35:05
Speaker 3: giving you the advice, what work to do, how much
35:08
Speaker 3: it's going to cost, and things like that, that trust
35:10
Speaker 3: has to be explicit because basically, I mean, if you
35:13
Speaker 3: could tell me anything, I'd be like, oh okay, Brett.
35:15
Speaker 3: If you think we have to do it, then that's
35:16
Speaker 3: what we have to do. You know, I don't know,
35:18
Speaker 3: So I have to trust what you're telling me. And
35:20
Speaker 3: that's a very important part of it.
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Speaker 4: I agree one hundred percent with that, and that is
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Speaker 4: I tried to develop that trust. I try to be
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Speaker 4: honest and trustworthy when I am honest with what my
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Speaker 4: opinions are, but I try to develop that trust. What
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Speaker 4: I would encourage is if is if you're in the
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Speaker 4: unfortunate situation where you have an issue that needs to
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Speaker 4: be addressed. I would certainly recommend you getting the background
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Speaker 4: of the person that's telling you what needs to be done.
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Speaker 4: Research their background. They should have a resume and see
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Speaker 4: where they've been. Where they a car salesman three years
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Speaker 4: ago and no offense to car salesman. But I couldn't
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Speaker 4: go sell a car, I can tell you that, right, right,
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Speaker 4: But it's just somebody that has been in this industry.
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Speaker 4: I'm fifteen plus years now. I believe what this is
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Speaker 4: all I've done. So I would certainly encourage that you
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Speaker 4: understand the experience of the person giving you the recommendations
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Speaker 4: and whether it's me, Whether it's me or not, that's
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Speaker 4: perfectly fine. But I certainly would recommend to be an engineer.
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Speaker 3: Years ago, when I started my first brick and mortar business,
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Speaker 3: me and I had some volunteers that worked for me
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Speaker 3: and family and stuff like that. We went around with
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Speaker 3: little bags that we would go and hang on people's
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Speaker 3: doorknobs and their fences and their gates and stuff like that.
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Speaker 3: I sold books. You know, you don't really have to
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Speaker 3: have a high level of expertise to sell books on
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Speaker 3: a retail level. If somebody is sticking these same things
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Speaker 3: on your doorknob and on your fence and things like that,
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Speaker 3: and they're offering elite levels of professional service. I don't
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Speaker 3: begrudge anybody for trying to get a start to trying
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Speaker 3: to start off their business or something like that, but
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that that's always the best route to go.
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Speaker 3: You really need to vet who you're working with and
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Speaker 3: make sure that you're making the right calls on doing that. Yep. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: that's kind of my editorial when it comes to things
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Speaker 3: like that. We've been doing shows with Brett for a
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Speaker 3: you so much for your time. I appreciate it again this week.
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Speaker 3: Thank you. We'll see you back here next month. Yep,
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