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#276 Watch Your Kid & Back Up Your Threats · Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash

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  Speaker 1: Can you just keep it down, bro? Can you just please?
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  Speaker 2: Never.
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  Speaker 3: I witness another use.
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  Speaker 1: For a child. He's going to get us in trouble again.
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  Speaker 1: Shut up.
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  Speaker 3: Matt's referring to the neighbours because the neighbour came over
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  Speaker 3: before this episode and was like, hey, love what you do.
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  Speaker 1: Not the business analyst.
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  Speaker 3: Shut the fuck up.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a new neighbour. A friendly neighbour.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to get kicked out of this studio. We've
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  Speaker 1: bloody finally finished it and all of a sudden we're
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  Speaker 1: going to get banished.
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  Speaker 3: Unbelievable. Can I finish what I was saying or are we?
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  Speaker 1: Let me start the episode again. Welcome back to Two
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  Speaker 1: Doting Dads. I am Matty J. I'm Ash. And this
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  Speaker 1: is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good,
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  Speaker 1: it is the bad.
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  Speaker 3: And the relatable.
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  Speaker 1: What were you saying?
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  Speaker 3: I was saying, we don't give advice. I was also, oh, actually,
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  Speaker 3: this could be some advice. I saw another use for
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  Speaker 3: a child by a dad, and I really enjoyed what
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  Speaker 3: was happening.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it could be. Father and his son play handball
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  Speaker 3: on the back alley of my complex.
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  Speaker 5: It has like a back entrance.
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  Speaker 1: Why are you watching other families for?
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  Speaker 3: Because you've got to drive past them.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: They were in an intense.
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  Speaker 5: Rally when I went to drive up.
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  Speaker 3: I stopped in the middle of the road and let
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  Speaker 3: them finish the rally.
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  Speaker 1: Dad, who's that man watching us? Shut up.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, I saw I was coming back and they were
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  Speaker 3: still playing and I saw him open the drain, lower
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  Speaker 3: his kid in to pick the ball up and then
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  Speaker 3: pulled him out.
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  Speaker 1: I would have just let go.
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  Speaker 4: Upside down.
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  Speaker 3: And the kid was like, got it.
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  Speaker 1: That was too loud. Oh, God.
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  Speaker 3: Can I just be honest with you? You notice when
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  Speaker 3: that conversation was happening, I tuned out because I don't
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  Speaker 3: give a fuck.
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  Speaker 4: It is after 2.30, though, so I think we're in
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  Speaker 4: a good spot.
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  Speaker 3: Chinese dentist time.
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  Speaker 1: Gosh, are we? Guys, I'm worried. I am worried, honestly.
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  Speaker 1: We were like, this studio is so cheap. It's because
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  Speaker 1: the walls are fucking made out of paper.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but we can fix that.
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  Speaker 2: How?
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  Speaker 4: We're going to get Dan in.
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  Speaker 5: Dan the man to come in.
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  Speaker 1: Dan just, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: You're pretending not to be excited about Dan coming in.
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  Speaker 3: I guess Dan could come in.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a while. It has been a while. I
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  Speaker 1: hope he's well. I know that it's been a little
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  Speaker 1: while since Halloween.
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  Speaker 3: It has.
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  Speaker 1: But the way that we record this, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: ruin the illusion. We don't record the same day it
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  Speaker 1: comes out. We record it in advance.
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  Speaker 3: We do.
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  Speaker 1: So this is our first chat.
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  Speaker 3: Because we have lives.
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  Speaker 1: We have lives. We have lives to live. We're humans.
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  Speaker 1: We have feelings.
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  Speaker 3: So between now and next week, we have to make
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  Speaker 3: as much stuff happen so we have things to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very stressful. But Halloween, this is our first
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  Speaker 1: chat since having Halloween. You missed Halloween.
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  Speaker 3: Thank God.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just in the eastern suburbs.
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  Speaker 1: The bloody teenagers. We had the police come. Police were
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  Speaker 1: doing the rounds.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think if you're a teenager listening to this
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  Speaker 3: and you trick-or-treat, grow up.
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  Speaker 1: Is there an age limit? Because there were packs of
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  Speaker 1: youths on e-bikes with balaclavas on.
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  Speaker 3: That just goes to show me that they have nothing
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  Speaker 3: else to do.
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  Speaker 5: So get to work.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: When I was a teenager, I wasn't trick-or-treating because I
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  Speaker 3: had things to do around the house.
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  Speaker 2: Go on.
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  Speaker 3: Like housework.
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  Speaker 1: Like masturbating.
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  Speaker 5: Like trick-or-treating. This thing is not going to drag itself.
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  Speaker 5: At 14, I was like, we're all going to go trick-or-treating.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, not to me. Not tonight for me, guys.
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  Speaker 1: You guys are all leaving though? Perfect.
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  Speaker 3: What are you up to? I'm going to fucking tear
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  Speaker 3: the end of it.
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  Speaker 1: But there were packs of youths. You sound so old.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 4: They were though and they would get the whole bowl
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  Speaker 4: and tip it into their bags and then the poor
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  Speaker 4: little kids.
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  Speaker 1: Two issues. Two issues. One, we had netball so then
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  Speaker 1: we couldn't, by the time we got dressed and we
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  Speaker 1: started making our way outside, it was 4 o'clock.
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  Speaker 5: Could have gone as a netballer. It's anything these days,
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  Speaker 5: so go.
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  Speaker 1: That was a good shout. Very good from you.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: By the time we got down there after four o'clock,
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  Speaker 1: half the houses cost a living crisis. There's no suites left.
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  Speaker 3: They're ransacked.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody was like, we're out. I was like, what the hell?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, no, that's not on. Teenagers aren't supposed to come
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  Speaker 4: until like after four or five.
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  Speaker 5: When you've taken it all.
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  Speaker 4: When all the little kids have gone around. So like
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  Speaker 4: between three and five, that's for little kids. Five and over, that's.
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  Speaker 3: I think I can speak for teenagers here. They don't
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  Speaker 3: give a fuck about the rules.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: They're going to go and, like, I bet you there's
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  Speaker 5: group chats going, hey, we're going at 4.
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  Speaker 3: O'clock, guys, because we want to get something this year.
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  Speaker 3: And we think it'll be fun, even though for the
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  Speaker 3: rest of us it's a fucking nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: And if teenagers want to egg each other, fine. But
• 4:37
  Speaker 1: if you have a pram, it means you're immune to
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  Speaker 1: any kind of- You're out of bounds. Out of bounds.
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  Speaker 1: And I didn't get egged, but I saw another family
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  Speaker 1: get egged. And the next thing, cops were, like, they
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  Speaker 1: were circling around. And they weren't just, like- Eggings? They
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  Speaker 1: weren't patrolling, but they were- And then- Hovering. Hovering.
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  Speaker 5: One of the cars on my street got broken into.
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  Speaker 1: Is Halloween just the catalyst for just complete- Chaos. Anarchy?
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  Speaker 3: It makes, honestly, my mum hated it growing up, fair enough.
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  Speaker 3: Now that I'm 35, 36, I don't see a fucking
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  Speaker 3: point in it.
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  Speaker 1: Or am I just- I mean, the kids do love it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, don't look at me like that because what is
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  Speaker 5: the fucking point of it?
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  Speaker 4: It's like Christmas for children.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: They have Christmas.
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  Speaker 4: That's what Christmas is.
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  Speaker 1: I know, but this is where you get to dress up.
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  Speaker 3: It's like Christmas for children.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they need two.
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying this. This is what we're encouraging.
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  Speaker 4: It's like the most exciting day of the year. It's
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  Speaker 4: probably even more exciting than Christmas because they get lollies
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  Speaker 4: and they get to wear their favourite costume.
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  Speaker 5: No, it's not.
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  Speaker 3: It's not. I think Book Week's for this sort of garbage.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 5: And I think.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't get to join them on Book Week.
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  Speaker 3: For me, it's I think. Look, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 3: stop April and the kids wanting to do it because
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  Speaker 3: then they'll be exiled. I get it. But at the
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  Speaker 3: same time. I think encouraging your kids to go up
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  Speaker 3: to a stranger to get fucking food off them ain't right.
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  Speaker 1: It is a very blurred boundary. Like it's a day
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  Speaker 1: which for kids must be very confusing because you're like,
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  Speaker 1: go up and speak to that old man and grab
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  Speaker 1: his chocolate.
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  Speaker 3: Immediately the day after it's like, don't go near that stranger.
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  Speaker 3: Think of the mixed messaging.
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  Speaker 4: I see what you're saying.
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  Speaker 3: Same with Christmas. It's a break and enter every year.
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  Speaker 4: I see what you're saying, but I also think it
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  Speaker 4: garners a sense of community.
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  Speaker 5: Except for the teenagers.
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  Speaker 4: Because you're for the first time talking to neighbours and
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  Speaker 4: people in your community you've never spoken to.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds horrible.
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  Speaker 4: You do start having conversations. I know, you'd fucking hate it.
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  Speaker 1: Laurel.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just a Grinch.
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  Speaker 1: Laurel B. Laurel B?
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  Speaker 4: Laurel.
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  Speaker 1: No, sorry. Laurel wants to know about your Minty B walks.
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  Speaker 1: I saw Laurel, I saw B. Laurel B.
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  Speaker 3: It has a ring to it.
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  Speaker 4: Like Oral B?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: This is a family show.
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  Speaker 1: She wants to know about your walks.
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  Speaker 3: There's one foot in front of the other, Laurel.
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  Speaker 5: That's how you walk. But I'll tell you how to
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  Speaker 5: do a mentee bee walk. Well, mine anyway is I
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  Speaker 5: chuck my headphones on. I put Do Not Disturb on.
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  Speaker 1: Your Do Not Disturb is on a lot.
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  Speaker 3: You have me muted. Specifically me muted. You have like
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  Speaker 3: a one-hour.
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  Speaker 1: Window during the day where it's not on.
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  Speaker 3: It's called a nap. What I've been trying to do
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  Speaker 3: is find like an older album, okay, that would have
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  Speaker 3: in its day would have given me the feels. Like
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  Speaker 3: something that there's songs that you go, oh, I remember
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  Speaker 3: that song. And then you start to remember music around
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  Speaker 3: that time.
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  Speaker 1: Give me a track. Give me one.
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  Speaker 3: At the moment I'm into an old album by Muse
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  Speaker 3: called Up.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. I love Muse.
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  Speaker 1: We're into the story, bro.
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  Speaker 5: It's called, it was, I think it was the.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us again what song it was.
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  Speaker 3: The album's called The Resistance.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: And there's a lot of.
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  Speaker 1: Resist this. Sorry.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Oh. Anyway, so I chuck that in and I go
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  Speaker 3: for a walk with trying not to distract myself. And
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  Speaker 3: then sometimes, like a good dog, I'll take a tennis
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  Speaker 3: ball because it's like sometimes I feel like I need
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  Speaker 3: to do something with my hands.
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  Speaker 1: Do you give it to people and say, throw it?
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  Speaker 3: No, I just drive all the dogs in the area wild.
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  Speaker 3: I just bounce along the way and I just forget
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  Speaker 3: about anything that's happening around.
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  Speaker 1: Laurel, there you go.
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  Speaker 3: There you go. Just don't go to a dog park
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  Speaker 3: with that tennis ball.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to read this because I'm going
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: to get it wrong. Ladies and gentlemen, strap on in because... Ooh.
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  Speaker 1: Bugs in My Backyard Week is next week.
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  Speaker 5: I don't have a backyard.
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  Speaker 3: Must be nice.
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  Speaker 1: Fucking hell.
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  Speaker 3: I've got to strip the council most.
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  Speaker 1: That counts.
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  Speaker 3: There's bugs in there.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, can I please get this out? Come on. This
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  Speaker 1: is very important. Don't interrupt.
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  Speaker 5: I was thinking about.
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  Speaker 3: This the other day. We just do a whole hour
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  Speaker 3: of interrupting each other.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot. If we can all just be mindful, please.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: When I'm talking, don't.
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  Speaker 3: So anyway, Vic.
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  Speaker 1: November 16th and 22nd, you've got to take a picture
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  Speaker 1: of a bug, upload it to the iNaturalist app. This November,
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  Speaker 1: we're asking Aussies to become bug detectives. Sounds like free
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  Speaker 1: labor if you ask me.
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  Speaker 5: I was just going to say they're outsourcing the sensors.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No. Keep going.
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  Speaker 1: I love how we're both like, I don't know about this.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know about this.
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  Speaker 1: Vic, you're weirdly into it.
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  Speaker 5: She seems to be weirdly into a lot of things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So citizens can become scientists, go to backyard, local
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  Speaker 1: parks and photograph all the tiny creatures you can find.
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  Speaker 1: There's a serious reason behind it because every observation adds
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  Speaker 1: to our understanding of Australia's incredible native invertebrates.
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  Speaker 3: So why don't you take my tax money, pay someone
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  Speaker 3: to do the job for us?
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  Speaker 4: You can't though. Like bugs are so small.
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  Speaker 3: Not with that attitude you can't.
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  Speaker 4: I think I love it because Louie wants to be
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  Speaker 4: a scientist and he also loves bugs. So this is
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  Speaker 4: a really fun activity you can do with your kids.
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  Speaker 5: Actually, my kids don't like bugs at all.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, kill it!
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they do like to kill bugs.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Louie likes to kill them or keep them.
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  Speaker 3: Lenny, Mike and Santa's kid. Yeah. Big bug guy.
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  Speaker 1: What's he go to?
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  Speaker 3: Anything.
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  Speaker 5: He'll be like, look, Wixie, and it's like a fucking
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  Speaker 5: hermit crab.
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  Speaker 1: Wixie!
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, last name. That's cute.
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  Speaker 5: But, yeah, so there's going to be some kids who
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  Speaker 5: love it. I shouldn't poo-poo on it.
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  Speaker 1: I will be honest. And in my bathroom, the door can't,
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  Speaker 1: the window can't quite close properly and we often get
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  Speaker 1: bugs in there. And bugs has extended now to a
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  Speaker 1: spider that is created a web in the corner of
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  Speaker 1: the windowsill.
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  Speaker 3: Opportunity to stick spider.
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  Speaker 1: And I was there washing myself and I thought I
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: might just get rid of the spider.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: But then I was like, oh, he's got a few
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  Speaker 1: bugs in there. And then there was a fly because
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: I have my shower at the very end of the night.
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  Speaker 1: So at that time.
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  Speaker 3: There's no hot water left.
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  Speaker 1: There's only light and the bathroom is on. So then
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  Speaker 1: the fly will come in like to the light. I
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: caught the fly and I thought I'm just going to
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: flush it on the toilet. I killed the fly and
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  Speaker 1: I then gave it in the spider web to the
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  Speaker 1: spider and the spider came out and then I watched
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  Speaker 1: the spider like eat the, yeah, and then I gave
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  Speaker 1: it a moth.
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  Speaker 3: The other day. You're feeding the insect. Oh, my God.
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: You've got a pet spider.
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: I've got a pet spider.
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  Speaker 4: Also, how did you kill the fly and then give it?
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  Speaker 4: Do you have a fly swat?
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  Speaker 1: Because I use the towel. I swat it with the towel.
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  Speaker 3: Can I have my input?
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  Speaker 2: Please.
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  Speaker 5: I have a pet spider too.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, please.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm going to.
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  Speaker 1: Why have you never told me about it?
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  Speaker 3: Do you feed it?
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  Speaker 5: Because we were just talking about it.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: We were just talking about it.
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  Speaker 3: It's actually. So my front door to the house. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Top corner. It is a redback.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, gosh.
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  Speaker 5: It's been there for months.
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  Speaker 3: It's built itself a web around.
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  Speaker 5: I won't touch it.
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  Speaker 3: And I put a moth in there, gone. I'm just
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  Speaker 3: feeding this thing. I think it keeps all the bugs
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  Speaker 3: away from the front door sometimes.
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  Speaker 5: It does a great job.
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  Speaker 1: Vic, you got anything?
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  Speaker 4: We have a lot of moths in our house still.
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: Get a pet spider.
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  Speaker 3: Just a shout out to Ames. Did you see her
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: video about the moths?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: She said, I low-key miss the moths because you would
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: just say to your kids, I can't go outside, there's
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: too many moths. Oh, you've got to come inside now,
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  Speaker 3: there's moths everywhere.
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  Speaker 5: Just use them for everything and now they're all just
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  Speaker 5: petrified of the moths.
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  Speaker 1: It has died down quite a lot and I'm like, oh, shame.
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  Speaker 4: I went to bed last night and I took the
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: pillow away to get my eye mask and there was
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  Speaker 4: a moth just sitting there on the bed head under
• 11:41
  Speaker 4: my pillow.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, what the fuck?
• 11:42
  Speaker 5: He's like, I've been waiting for you.
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  Speaker 1: Literally.
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: I was like, how?
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: You're late. I've already finished like three times.
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: Don't tell Dan about this.
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: I'm like, Dan, can you hear me? All right, so
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: from the 16th to the 22nd of November, there is
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  Speaker 3: an iNaturalist app.
• 11:58
  Speaker 5: We'll leave a link in the bio.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think we need to rehash.
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: I was just getting into telling people where we're going
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  Speaker 3: to leave it.
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  Speaker 1: I think we covered all bases.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you also didn't mention.
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  Speaker 5: Is it because you didn't get the opportunity to say that?
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: Is that why?
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: I said that.
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: Did you? Did you say show notes?
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: No. Oh, my God.
• 12:13
  Speaker 4: It's not a competition, guys. But it also helps the government...
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: I think we can relax on the bugs, guys. To
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: spot invasive species early. If we have invasive bugs here.
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: Like the moths.
• 12:24
  Speaker 5: That worked out well, didn't it?
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: From other countries.
• 12:27
  Speaker 5: What are they going to bring in now?
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: Some toads? Oh, wait, that didn't work either.
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's move on.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: They're bringing a mongoose.
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: That'll fix it.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: Emily's responded to Deb's comments about the kids arching in
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: the car.
• 12:38
  Speaker 5: These guys are just talking to each other now through us.
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: That's what's happening. Deb's now talking to Emily.
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe Deb's comments. And this
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: is the initial comment was how hard it is when
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: your kids start like arching back, trying to get them
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: into the baby seat in the car.
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: Because she's a grandma.
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but to tickle them under the armpits is.
• 12:59
  Speaker 4: This is Emily saying this.
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: It's a fun fact, Vic, that you might not know
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: about our friend Matthew here. He is extremely ticklish. Is he?
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: I don't really touch Matt very often because I would
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: just have the urge to tickle him so much. And
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: he gets cranky.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: My kids tickle me and I'm like, don't fucking.
• 13:15
  Speaker 5: Touch me there.
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: Come here.
• 13:16
  Speaker 4: Do you know why I think you're ticklish? Why? Because
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: you're very muscular.
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: Around your stomach. It always has to. Take your shirt
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: off so we can see.
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: Go on, Vic. I'm listening.
• 13:26
  Speaker 4: No, because this is why Louis is so ticklish. Like
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: the second I touch him and he is like bones
• 13:31
  Speaker 4: and abs. That's all he is.
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: He's a boy body.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Literally. And that's that.
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: You have the same physique as a seven-year-old boy.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: But that's why I think it's ticklish because I think
• 13:40
  Speaker 4: it's the muscle rubbing up against the bones.
• 13:43
  Speaker 5: Take your shirt off and let us tickle you.
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: That makes it tickly.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: I have a memory of being pinned down by my
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: older brother. Same. Tickling me, but all his weight on me,
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: like he's kneeling on my arm. So I was like, oh.
• 13:54
  Speaker 5: You get it yourself?
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: And I remember thinking to myself, I cannot wait until
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: the day that I'm no longer ticklish. And it never came.
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: No, I remember I tickled you once and you got
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: real cranky.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: I know. I hit you, I think.
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: I can't remember what it was.
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: I don't know. But every now and then I'll just
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: give him a little tickle.
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: I love tickling.
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: It might have been on the Today Show and you
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: were like, whack.
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: And you start this segment with a black eye.
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: I know, yeah, yeah.
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: I once got pinned down as a child.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: I don't want to know what you and Dan do
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: behind closed doors.
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: And my brother and sister called the dog and got
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: the dog to lick my whole face.
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: Isn't that so mean?
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: What sort of dog?
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: It was like a little Australian silky terrier.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: Speaking of dogs, is.
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: Buster, just quickly, side, side, side, let's just take this
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: track off a little bit. He's still laughing at his joke.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: No, no. I'm just imagining you getting like sexually assaulted
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: by a dog.
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: Did I say that at all?
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: You might as well have.
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: Where does your mind go to?
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: You said pinned down, licked in the face.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: Licked in the face.
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: And other places?
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: No, I just said, okay.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: Just speaking of dogs really quickly, does Buster, when it storms,
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: does he get shaky? Very shaky. I've got a maraca
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: at home, eh? She's just. Squiggy. Yeah, poor thing.
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: She should put it down.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: She's on her last legs.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Isn't she?
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: Actually, they're both off.
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: So tickle in the ribs, that's the hack.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: Emily and Deb.
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: Look, this might be a side conversation for you too.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: Moving on. That's another thing. Actually, Vic, we're going to
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: have to turn our attention to you really quick. You
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: cannot leave me a one-minute voice to text. You cannot
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: have audio text. I see that, right?
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: One minute.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: I looked at it and went, no.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: I don't have time for Lord of the Rings?
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Literally. We screenshot it and as soon as I saw it,
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: I sent it to Matt saying, a minute audio message
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: is a bit much.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: What did it say?
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: Propping you guys up and saying how amazing you are
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: it might have been.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know i didn't listen because it was a
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: minute long doesn't.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: It also transcribe it a little bit so you can.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: Read it as text honestly matt paraphrased it for me
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: no i didn't i didn't read it oh should i
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: get it up no don't because the listeners don't have
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: a minute all right moving on that was awkward Yeah,
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: a lot of people are asking us about the origin
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: story of 2.0. It comes up every year, doesn't it?
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: People keep asking if we're brothers.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: You wish.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: You wish.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: I wish I had the height. So you're right.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you wish you had the height.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: I've got nothing.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: But we need to probably have something so that when
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: it does come around, we're like, yeah, watch this.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: We'll put something together on social media. But for those wondering,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: it happened three and a half years ago.
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: More than that.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: For the record, we have- It's coming up to four years,
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: five years. I know.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Four years. 2022.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Time flies when you're having fun.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: It's been so slow.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Ash and I met on social media.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like all good love stories.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Ash messaged me first.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Wrong.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: You did.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: Wrong.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: You did.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Wrong. I don't have time to scroll back to the beginning,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: but you messaged me first. I had a Christmas party
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: with a plus one invite. I invited you. We had
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: our first date at a pub in the city.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Then we went to this Meta event, which were the
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: oldest there.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: And that was it. And then we started doing silly
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: videos together.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: There you go. We'll put a more in detail one together.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: And then Ash, because he's a slippery salesman, said, let's
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: do a podcast. I said, no. He said, that's fine.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I've got someone else.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I did do that.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: And I said, fuck, okay, I'll do a demo. Demo
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: was good. And I was like, by the way, who
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: was that other person?
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: No one.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: I made it up.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: Good reverse psychology. I know.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: I'm good at what I do.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: You're very clever.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you. Anyway, you paraphrased and summed that
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: up perfectly, so I'm not going to argue with you.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: We can sit on it for ages and argue.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: About who did what.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: I think maybe Ash added you first.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Rather than the message first. No, I had to follow
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: back because April made me. Who's this guy? Oh, okay.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to get a reaction, but I'm not getting one.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: So I reckon.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: We do a better version of this.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: We'll do that. I actually have the photos.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: You've got receipts.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Fuck.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I've got the photos of that Christmas party because Ash
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: got us matching Hawaiian shirts.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: Budgie Smugler.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: And we had some photos together at a photo wall.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: I remember those photos.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: Tim was there.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: 100% Tim in those photos.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Tim Abbott, yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: They're beautiful photos.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Very, very. We look so young.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: We do look young. Geez, Louise. Parenting has sucked the
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: life out of both of us.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Hasn't it just?
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Actually, the new Becoming Sober has given you a new
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: lease on life. Thank you.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: I look good.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Okay. All right.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: So this one, Ash, is from, just very quickly, Tom Crowhurst.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: He says, hot take, baby wipes need to be more
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: baby proof. Just yesterday, my one-year-old daughter got her hands
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: on a brand new pack of wipes and emptied the
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: whole pack across the lounge room floor. How often does
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: this happen to other parents?
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: A lot.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: That's not only wasting paper, it's wasting water.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: But it's hard because when you want the wipes to
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: be accessible, when you're dealing with a punami, they're so
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: hard to get out.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: Yes, because also when you go to grab one, it
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: comes with the clump.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: So I feel like a wipe clot. You making it
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: more baby proof is actually adding to the barrier of
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: entry to that wipe.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: There needs to be like a switch.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: And knowing my.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Brain, if there's more than two barriers to something, I'm
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: just going to use my hand because I'm like, that's
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: too hard to get into.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Hand for what?
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Whatever it may be.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: I used wipes all the time.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Even now with no one in nappies?
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Always.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: You still have wipes in the house?
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: I die by the wipe.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Everywhere. It's right near the dining table because they.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Get sticky fingers.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: I would go into war for a packet of wipes.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Honestly.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I'll trudge the nation trying.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: To find them.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Because I kind of think I look forward to the
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: day when there's no longer wipes in the house.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: No.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: So good. What do you use for your mustache?
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: What do you use in your house vick for the
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: kids sticky fingers at the dining table because my kids
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: as much as i'd tell them to use their abs
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: and forks they use their fingers.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Have you ever wiped your butt with a wire yeah
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: i wasn't into it oh it's so good oh.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: So you've got them in the toilet.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: No no do you take them in the toilet april
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: got some flushable ones once I used them then, but
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I just haven't replenished the flushable wires, but they are
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: very good.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Just one.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Just a little treat.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Just a little top off.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: I sometimes have to use them on the kids if, like,
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Louis sits on the toilet for too long and the
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: poo then dries onto his butt. How long is he
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: there for?
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: You need a scourer.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Because he wants me to wipe and I'm trying to
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: tell him, no, you have to learn how to do it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: And so it's like a standoff. Yeah, every morning. Every morning.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Is there overnight?
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I know, yeah. I'm still here, woman. Wipe it, nothing.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: But on the other end of wipes is toilet paper
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: and I don't know if you experience this with your
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: kids but Lily has a habit of just going.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Just unravels.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Unraveling the toilet and then until it's gone. It's just
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: a pile on the toilet floor.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's infuriating.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: It's so annoying.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: That is so annoying. I don't think you can make
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: them any more baby proof because then they'll become parent
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: proof in the moment you need them.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: It's like if someone was like, here, take the lid
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: off this pill and you're like, well, my kid's got
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: shit all over his butt and it's an emergency. You
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: can't do it.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: Like same thing with a wipe.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: If it's like push the lid down and twist it
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: before you can get a wipe out.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: So essentially you're telling Tom to shut up.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, to shut the fuck up, Tom. Stop trying to
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: make things harder for us and just keep him out
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: of reach of your kids.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Tom, if you're listening, I sympathize with your situation.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: That was me being sympathetic.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Was it not? Okay. Tom, I'm really sorry.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: Moving on. Congrats on the new baby via C-section.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: But upon....
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: Sorry, I should have read this one.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: You were saying congrats to her.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Sorry. I read that wrong. So, first of all, Ellen
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: had a newborn baby. Congratulations. And it was via C-section.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Baby girl.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: Baby girl.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Now, the problem is that we need to apologize to
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: her apparently because every time she laughs now, it hurts.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: And as we know, going under a C-section, you can't
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: drive for five weeks, you can't laugh for five weeks.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Did I actually say that?
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: No, I made that up.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: No, but it does really hurt the stitches. It feels
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: like every time you laugh that your stomach's going.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: To fall apart.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: It can't hurt that much.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: I'm joking.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: I'm not even going to give a response to that.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: That's perfect. Not giving a response to what he wants.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: But he's the most painful thing in the world. Especially
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: when it's been an emergency one.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: It's like when you break a rib and you can't
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: cough or sneeze or anything like that.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: We know that.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: But look, I am sorry, but.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: Sorry that we're so funny.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: So if we ever have an unfunny ep, it's for Emily.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd be like, that one must be for a
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: mother that's had a C-section.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is for all the C-section mums out there.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but like it must hurt because you use your
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: core muscles, if you've got any. I don't.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: You use your core muscles for anything.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Like pooing.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Like pooing.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: What's that like?
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: The first poo after you have a baby is awful.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: That's why they give you heaps of the Movicol so
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: that it just slides right out.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: It just slides out.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Because any strain on any of those muscles is so,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: like you're almost holding your breath. It feels like hot
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: all around your tummy. It's anything to do with that
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: whole area after having a baby is awful.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: It's like after I do abs once.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Moving on.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Sorry to all the mothers out there.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: And lastly, Lois saying that I have never had an
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: ad for China before until I listened to your latest
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: podcast about Ash's trip. And now my algorithm as well
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: is just full of people having a great time in China.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Go on.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I think I have given people the courage to talk
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: about China.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Because Matt Fahad all of a sudden does a whole
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: reel on China.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: That's all I've got.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Can I just say, Vic, you know, Ash has got
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: that job coming up next week where he's going to
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: be in New Zealand.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Do you know who the car brand is?
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: Chinese JQ brand.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: It's a Chinese brand.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: It's all coming together. I know.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: And I will say, wholeheartedly, I've made a very tough
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: decision in my life and I am replacing my iPhone
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: with a Chinese made phone, a Huawei.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Is that serious?
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: So your iPhone gone?
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: iPhone gone. I'm done with them.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Do you think he's a double agent?
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to convince people that I am so that
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I get some sort of special treatment.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Is the Chinese car brand job that you're doing in
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: New Zealand, is that purely coincidence or did you strike
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: any deals when you were over there?
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: I didn't strike any deals, no. That's a pure coincidence.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Have you spoken to the client directly?
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I will.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: Once I learn Mandarin, I'll be able to.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Can you say any Mandarin? No, no, no. Get learning, buddy.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: My whole algorithm is China now, which I'm not complaining
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: about because I'm going to go back next year for
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: the Grand Prix. Oh, God.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: What?
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Do you want to come? No.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: That's because you're too afraid.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: No, I love Chinese people. I love China. Does it
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: sound like it?
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: I love them all.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Swarm, swarm, swarm. I will say Ash is going to
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: be away.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Yes, I'm going to be away for two weeks.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: In a couple of weeks' time. So the podcast will continue.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Laura will be filling in.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: I've been farting in this seat for her.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to record in the Life Uncut studio.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: I better get over there and start farting.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Ash, what are you doing here? Shut up. Fuck you guys.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Out the door. Very good.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Let's get into some dilemmas.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Matt, we have received a dilemma via audio message all
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: the way from China.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: No, it's from New Zealand.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, bro. Oh, bro.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: She bit out a thick accent. Kia ora.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Hey, guys.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: My name's Megan. I'm an OG listener. I've been listening
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: since day one. I have a question for you guys
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: from across the ditch in New Zealand. So I have
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: three sons and my middle son is a thumb sucker.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: has been to the dentist recently and I've been told
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: that it's starting to affect his teeth, which is concerning.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: So we have been trying everything to try and stop
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: him doing this. We've put the nasty tasting nail polish
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: on his thumb. We have explained to him that he's
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: going to get wonky teeth if he continues, but nothing
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: seems to be working as he's as you would expect
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: a feral boy. So I wanted to know whether you
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: guys had any advice or any experience with thumb sucking.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Not my greatest parenting moment, but I did threaten to
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: put chilli on his thumb, which has not deterred him yet.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: It's just you haven't done it.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Again, thanks for everything, guys. It's great listening to you
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: and I appreciate.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: All the laughs.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Lovely. Great accent.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Firstly, OG listener, thank you so much for supporting us
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: for such a long time.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: But also like chuck a bit of chilli on that
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: thumb and see what happens.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Tequila.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Chilli.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Chilli.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: I reckon you got to do it. I feel like
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: these days, not to sound like a boomer.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Go on.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: These days, parents aren't following through enough with their threats.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: If there's not going to be a serious outcome here,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: which is the kid's going to experience chilly, hate that,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: and it may or may not work.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: But I think as a whole, we.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Are not following through with threats. So blame me, put
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: a bit of, Chilli on the end of that thumb.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Assuming that your child is not allergic to chilli, I
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: don't think there's anything wrong. It's nothing life-threatening to let
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: him experience the good flavours of natural earth.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Well said. And I'm not sitting here saying put some
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: poison on the end of that thumb.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: But if you've got some.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: But if you've got some handy.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: And when he wakes up after being hogtied in the basement,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: he'll think twice.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you put chilli on and he
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: really likes it, you're fucked. But if he hates it,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: you can be like, see? Are you following through?
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: No, but issue with the chili. I don't know if
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you remember Marley's story of making fairy potion in the garden.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: It got in her eyes and stuff.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: And then chili on the thumb, rubs the eye. Next thing,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: child's blind.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think if he rubs it in his eye,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: then you can maybe throw another lesson in there as well.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Keep your hands away from your face. I've always told
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: you that.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: Just lesson stacking.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I lesson stack.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I've always said that.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: I open my arms like this, like Jen, and I
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: lesson stack.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: I think that's fair.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: I have a problem with Macy just loves to put
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: her fingers in her mouth. And I reckon if you
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: mic'd up my house, it would just be general horseplay.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Just fingers in her mouth? Is she sucking her fingers?
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: What's she doing?
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: It would be general horseplay with every now and then
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: me going, fingers out of your mouth.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Fingers out, mouth now.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Is she doing it as a comfort thing?
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like she's just sitting there. Yes, Oscar
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: does this.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: I don't know if Louis does that.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: His thing is that he's always like when he's getting
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: told off, he's got to touch his face or beat
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: it around.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Like a soothing.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm like, hands down, he's odd. March boy.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: March boy. In time. Boom, boom, boom.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: No. It does say online that if you do have
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: a thumb sucker, it's a good idea to keep their
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: hands busy. So like a fidget spinner or if it's
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: at night time, put little mittens on their hands instead.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Not in summertime, guys.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hot.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: I would also say like depending on how old. Did
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: she say how old the baby was?
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Middle. In middle. So I would say it's probably at
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: least two.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm no expert here and I'm also no dentist,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: but apparently after the age of five, continuous thumb sucking
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: can have a permanent impact on the positioning of your teeth.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: So once you get to the age of five, it
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: needs to be removed. But again, don't come to me
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: with any dental problems because I'm no expert. And also
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: if you're a dentist getting offended by the fact that
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I'm cutting your grass, once again, I apologize.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Fuck him.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: We had, Louis was addicted to dummies. So different thing,
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: but we had.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I feel like dummies are easier to get rid of though.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: I thought you said gummies and I was like, I'm
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: listening to this.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, dummies were easier because Santa came and took all
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: the dummies away.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Because you can remove them from the picture.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Cut off their thumbs.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That was funny. The thumbs. I thought it was
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: quite funny. I thought it was very funny.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: And I would like to apologize.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: That's okay.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: That I got distracted.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: Then I got distracted from the distraction thinking about what
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: you said.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: But also I feel like we were semi-focused on Louis,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: which is a serious case. I heard it's one of
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: the most serious cases. It's serious. Vic, you didn't think
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: the cutting off the thumbs was funny?
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I did.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: I didn't really give it much.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: We'll come over.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: I'll hold him down.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: And Matt can chop his thumbs off.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, God. Well, you guys are coming to babysit, aren't you?
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: That's what we're calling it.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Or are you just paying for a babysitter? Or are
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: you just sending April over?
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: April and Laura. We'll chop some thumbs off if you
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: really need us to.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: But I would say follow through with the threat and
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: see what happens.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: You've got nothing to lose.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: You've just got to, it's perseverance, isn't it? You've just
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: got to, you know.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: For the boy or for the mum?
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: No, you've just got to. Don't let them take your
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: thumbs away from you, Timmy.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: You've got to be like, you know.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Hold it back.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: And I think you've got to then, because some kids
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: love sucking their thumb at bedtime, some love sucking their
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: thumb watching TV or car rides. I think there's moments
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: where there's a habit where they start to do it.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: So if you can start small.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: You really change your tone up when you realise how
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: good this advice actually is because it's very good.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: I just.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: You really, your tone changed and your body moved.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: So what I would say is.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Were you running?
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: So what I would say, Ash, is.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: My cadence picks up.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: You're like, you're trying to get to the finish line
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: so far. Where's it going to end? Where's it going
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: to end? Where's it going to end? Go. I'm on
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: a roll. No, you were really on a roll.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. I was in flow state. Get back there.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Come on. Get back there.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: So you find the moments where the kid is in
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: the habit of sucking their thumb, i.e. the car ride.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: So then if you can say, hey, Timmy.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: Fucking Timmy gets a roar.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: And if you say, we're just going to try for
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: this car ride, no thumb sucking. If they do that reward.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought you were going to say at those moments,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: that's when you, they need the distraction. So it's like, if,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: if it's in the car, it's like, here's a fidget spinner.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: So between the two of us.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Also, that was great from you.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: So what I've got, we're going to suck each other off.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Just close your eyes for a second.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I'm going to summarize. Okay.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: The advice that we shouldn't be giving one. Follow through
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: with the threat. And if that doesn't work, try Matt's idea,
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: which is in those moments.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Break the habit.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: Chop their thumbs off. Break the habit.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Break the habit.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, break the loop. I think that's good.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Vic looks so confused.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: I think we can call this a day, guys.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: Because I'm pretty sure I suggested some of those things
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: just before.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: No, you didn't. I wasn't listening. I don't know.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: I'm not known for stealing material.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I actually have a quick question, if I may. You
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: did raise your hand. Do you mind if I hijack
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: this segment?
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Well, it's up to Vic.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I just reminded myself about something that happened on the weekend.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Go, okay.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, Sunday, lovely day, beautiful day.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Beautiful. I would say Sunday is underrated.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Go on. Sunday is a good day. Sunday morning is great.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: So we were down at the beach and it's very
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: busy down at Bondi. I'm not sure if you've been
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: there recently, Ash.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Never heard of it.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Vic?
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Never heard of Bondi. Haven't been in a while.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: The odd stomping ground.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Congratulations on the new police force too.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate your input.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Carry on.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: So Bondi is hectic. It's so freaking busy. And there
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: is one section, there is the kiddies' pool.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: North End.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: So North End, you've got the kiddies' pool, so everyone
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: with prams and toddlers and little kids is that end.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: So I had Lola and then I saw this young child,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: must have been about two or three years old, just
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: running around by themselves. And the next thing, well, by
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the pool, and then it was by the pool and
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I was looking around, there was no parent in sight.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: You said it.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: The baby, sorry.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, sorry.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: I was like, what are we, what?
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: And I was thinking, I'm just, I said to Law,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, just look at this kid here because
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: the kiddies pool, you can easily have an accident and
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: if you're not supervising your kids, you know, the unthinkable
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: could happen. And I was like, Laura, just look at
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: that little kid over there. Cause it doesn't seem to
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: be a parent anywhere. And there's also a bit of
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: swell around as well. Like the waves are lapping over.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: This is a recipe for disaster.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: And so then I was just like, again, looking around
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: and then there must've been about 10 minutes of this
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: child just running around completely unsupervised. And then the parent
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: came over. And Laura was like, oh, is that your,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: that's your child? And they were like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: they're fine. And I was like, at what point can
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: you tell off another parent for not paying enough attention
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to their child? Especially at the beach.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: I don't think you can. You sort of inherit the
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: responsibility for them.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Also, you don't have the perspective of where they were
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: and watching.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: They were miles away.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's obviously.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: They were like 50 metres down the beach.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I still think you can't say anything.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I was like.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Actually, no. Actually, I'm going to turn my.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: You can say, look, I was watching.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: No.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: No. There is a way to do it, but I
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I know it's got to be pretty severe to warrant
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: telling another parent off. Not telling them off, but just
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: being like, I don't know.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: You could easily just say, look, I was concerned that
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: no one was watching.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: And that's a little jab.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: Are we encouraging little jabs?
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Metaphorical.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: I think it is a matter of perspective because it
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: happens a lot at our beach as well. And I'm
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: always like, who's watching this kid? But we have like beach,
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: then steps, then like boardwalk. And so when I think
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: there's a kid there playing by themselves, I have no
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: idea which one of their parents is when I look back.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: And one of the little girls that I saw, I'm like, hey,
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: like where's your mum and dad? Like where are they?
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Because they were playing right near us. And she's like, oh,
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: they're just up there, like pointed wherever. I'm like.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: There's no one there.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: I can't see anyone, but I'm sure they're like, I
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: know there's someone there, but I just don't know who
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: they belong to. So I think perhaps the parents were watching,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: but just like they didn't have a cause for concern yet.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: If the child had hurt themselves, maybe they would have bolted.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: We're talking about a big pool.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Maybe they did.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Like a 30-metre.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Pool of water.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: I totally get it. But nothing bad happened to that child. Huh?
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: But nothing bad happened to that child.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Yet.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: If the child fell over, I'm sure they would have
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: bolted over.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think what Victor's trying to say is
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: you don't know, you can't tell a parent off. because
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: you don't know what the circumstance is. You've sort of
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: just seen the kid.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: But I couldn't enjoy the beach anymore because I was
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: so anxious about this child drowning.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: That's the root of the problem. Matt couldn't enjoy the beach.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Because I care about the well-being of the children of
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: this country.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: I go to everybody a water.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: A father of the year, guys. Not on my watch.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Forget about that.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Whenever there's children around in the vicinity, I just go
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: under the advisory that if that kid needs help, I'm
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: there to help at full stop.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Totally. But that parent could have been watching the child
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: the whole time because he was just running around having fun.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: There was no need for them to come closer. Yeah,
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: we don't know that.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: But I think you're right in thinking, why does it
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: become my responsibility if I don't know who's looking after this?
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: And which is the correct feeling because you automatically feel
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: responsible as we should because that kid doesn't know any better. Yeah.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: But then as well.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Can I also add a bit of mayo and be
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: like there were rocks involved, guys. There were rocks, slippy rocks.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: There was a cliff and a volcano and dinosaurs.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: There's a rip. There's a rip on that section.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: And a shark.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: And there was syringes.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Circling.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and little sharks. Yeah, people's perspective on how far
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: away they can monitor is different to yours.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: That's all Vic's saying.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Here's another question. For a three-year-old, what is the acceptable
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: distance that you can have between you and your child?
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: I think within 10 metres.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: It depends on the child.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Very good.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Very good. If it's my kids, if I have visuals
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: on them from 10, 20 metres and they're in a
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: safe environment, fine. If it's a little bit murky and
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm just lingering like.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: A bad smell.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: This is the exact problem with parenting at the moment
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: is because every child is different and every parent has
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: a different perspective. And so if your child is doing
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: something different or your parenting style is different to someone else's,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: You get upset or you get concerned because of the difference.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: So there was a mother in the United States recently
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: who got arrested and found guilty of child negligence because
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: her son went out the back door to a pond
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: to collect feathers and come back before he could come back.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Someone had called police, a security guard brought him home
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: and he was very scared because that's something he did
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: every day because the mother knew that child's capability. No
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: one else knows the child's capability except a parent.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Very true that i feel like america's crazy yeah that's
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: a bit extreme but that's.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: A good example of like you know your child better
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: than anyone you know what they're capable of and what
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: they're not capable it's like it's.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Like behavior i was i was telling you guys before
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: about these naughty two boys at school that always not
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: our school another school that always play out they seem
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: to always get the hose and hose people outside because
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: they think it's fun and april was whinging about that
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: i said For sure.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Hang on, wait, wait. You're walking in the footpath. They
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: hose you.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: They hose someone, right? They were hosing other kids because
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: they thought it was funny, right, at school. It's just water.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: It's not hosing bullets.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Jesus.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: No, but like.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: She's like, oh, my God, what, they had semi-automatics?
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: So you went for the whole day?
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Anyway, they're kids.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: They're like eight years old.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: But that's the wrong thing.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Like a refreshing sprinkle or a dousing?
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Like a ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, like I've got you. Yeah.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Like a water fight.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Anyway, that's not the point. We're getting hung up on
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: the wrong.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Ash in a water fight.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I'm going, who's there?
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: He's using the hoses.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Jerking the hose up.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: I said to April, I said, yeah, that's been naughty,
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: but you don't know.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Maybe at home they go outside and spray each other
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: with a hose because it's fun and it cools them down.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: So they think that it's perception of fun.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: It's just good old-fashioned fun to that parent, but it's
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: not to someone else.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: We're talking about perspective.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I agree with Vic.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, shut up.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: It's the same.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: There are some things that some parents let their kids
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: do because their kids are just having fun, but there's
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: some that other parents wouldn't let them. I'm talking about perspective.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, wait.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Ready?
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: You've got to look at the intent. Look at the intent.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: If those boys are waiting.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: No, listen here.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Listen here.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Captain Lame Police.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Listen here.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: No.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Let's lame it up.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: If those people. those boys have the intent to make
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: people uncomfortable with a level of wetness, if the intent
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: is there.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: I don't think these seven-year-olds know what intent is.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Let's move on.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I'm being wrapped up, I think.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: We've still got a lot of dilemmas to get to.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: It's actually our decision whether we have any more or not.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: We're at 49.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: 49.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, fucking Jesus.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: See you guys. Bye.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Told you.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Well, that's because you had to tell your massive story
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: about the person running out and the security guard coming.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: It's the voice text all over again. Just getting an
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: hour long.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: I will remove that.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Remove it.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: Just don't do it.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: I won't do it again.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: You called me.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: All you have to do is say, I don't like that.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: You don't have to put it on the pot.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Yes, I do.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: No one takes me seriously outside of this.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Guys, we've got two dilemmas left.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: We'll make it one.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: It's never quick. Let's do the first ones that we
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: were at.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: What time are we at, Vic?
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: 49.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Okay. We'll make it quick. We'll do one. But please
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: send us your dilemmas. We love tackling them all.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: We discuss them outside this.
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: You don't hear it.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: It is such a privilege to have these sent through.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: This is from anonymous. Would love for you to talk
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: about gender disappointment. I've just found out I'm expecting my
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: third boy and I'm definitely mourning the chance to have
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: a girl and do all those girly things. Obviously I'm
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: grateful that we can even get pregnant and all you
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: want is for them to be healthy, but still I'm
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: feeling a little bit sad. I don't get to experience
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: a little girl in our family.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Everyone always says that though. I just hope for happy
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: and healthy.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: You have to say that.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: We mean it.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you do want a happy, healthy baby more than
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: anything else. You don't want a sick baby.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: You heartless fuck.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: But I get it. I thought Lily was going to
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: be a boy and I was a little bit sad
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: that I was going to have like two boys and
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: no girl because I always imagined a girl. But then
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: I was totally wrong and we got little Lily.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: I was just happy if they were happy and healthy.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: What?
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Did you find out with Louie? No.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Lily.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Fuck.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: I said to April that I said.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Your kids' names are very confusing.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: I said Vic's coming with her kids.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: That is a sore spot for me.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, sorry.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I apologize.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: And then she was like.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Have you apologized to Vic? No.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: Louie and Lily. And she was like, oh, cute.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Louie and Lily.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: She thought I made it up. But I think it's cute.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Like Louie and Lily.
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: Do you do it that way purposely?
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: No, it was very unintentional. So Louie was named after
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Dan's grandfather and Lily's named after my mum's grandmother.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: Just say Louie and Lily.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: But they do sound very similar, but someone had a
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: go about their names recently and I was a bit
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: upset about it.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Who?
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to talk about it. Go, carry on.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Did you know about Lily at birth? Did you find
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: out her sex?
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: We found out before for both of them. Because we
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: wanted to know. But Louis we thought was going to
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: be a girl and Lily we thought was going to
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: be a boy. So we got them both totally wrong.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: But it was nice to know because then you can,
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: I find you can then prepare mentally.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: So before you knew, you just, you thought you were thinking.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: So I was like, did they get it wrong?
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: What about Oscar and Macy? Did you find out before birth?
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm too impatient.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you couldn't. You're bloody ADHD.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: I know, I couldn't.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: I got friends that waited.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: You waited, didn't you?
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: We were surprised for one and two and I was like,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I want to know because with one I was like, whatever, happy, healthy,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: that's the most important thing, Ash. Remember that.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: Totally, Joe.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: And then I thought.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: What if I want my kids to be unhappy?
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: They are. Oh! Sorry, you left that wide open.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Very good, very good. You deserve that. Please don't get me, Vic.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: I'm a good guy. I'm never going to sleep over
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: again now.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I've said this before previously, but everyone looked at Lola
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: when she was in Laura's tummy and was like, the
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: way it's sitting, the shape, everything, everyone's like, that is
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: going to be a boy.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: The way that there's a baby in your belly, it's going.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: To be a boy.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: And there was a definite moment where as she came out,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: and I thought I was having dreams that it was
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: going to be a boy, and then the moment she
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: came out, it sucks in that moment of childbirth just
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: to have a fraction of a second of like, oh.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Disappointment's like a spectrum. I wasn't like, oh, fuck this.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I felt like in the corner, like I'm not looking
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: at it.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was like you must be like
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: it's more anticipation of it being, and then you're like, oh,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: it's not. I don't think it's disappointment. I think it's
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: all like, oh.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: But to have that little blip in the experience of
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: childbirth where it wasn't just all amazing, beautiful, amazing. Was
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: it amazing?
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: It was amazing.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I had so much guilt afterwards being like, oh,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: I had that moment where I, you know, and Lola
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: is the absolute best. And then I did hope for
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: number three. I was like it would be great to.
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: Have another perspective in the house.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, it's all sorts. You're like, you
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: know what, I would like to have Monte Carlo.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: You want a black one.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I just want to see how you guys.
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: You want a different flavour.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I want a different flavour.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you can relate to this Dota perfectly because
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: you've got three girls and now she's got three boys.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: And I'll never have another child, I don't think.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: What?
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not going to have another child.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: But this is bloody cliche, but as you get older.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I just hope they're happy and healthy.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: And you really hope that they're.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Happy and healthy. See, it is funny.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: But then as I think as they have little personalities
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: and as they develop and you start to know the
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: individual and you kind of disregard whether it's a boy
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: or a girl.
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: It doesn't really matter.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: I think it's definitely different for me who has one
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: of these. It's definitely a different experience at the moment
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: for me, right? But at the same time, Macy loves
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: doing Oscar shit like as well and it's like I guess, yeah,
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: kind of agreeing what you're saying. It's like, okay, well,
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: it's like a little girl and it is different but
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: also like. It is what you make it, right, at
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: the same time.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: I want to jump in because I did want a
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: little girl and I also loved having one of each.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: But I find my boy loves me so much, so unconditionally,
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: so deeply, way more than Lily. Like his little personality
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: and this is why I think Jen and Maggie talk
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: about boys feel so deeply and like you guys are
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: a really good example of that. But like he is
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: like my best little friend.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: They're so sweet.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: Whereas Lily, she's such an independent woman and I hear
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: this so much about girls that they love autonomy and
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: they only come back to you when they really need
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: you or want you when they want you, whereas boys
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: just always want you. So anonymous.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: They're a bit clingy.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Even though you wanted a girl, you've got three beautiful
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: boys who probably want to be by your side your
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: whole life.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Although I will say have a boy, have them until
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: they get a wife. Have a girl, you've got them
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: for life. I disagree.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I disagree.
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Oscar.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Although I say that my fucking mum lives with me.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: This is what I mean. There's a very special relationship
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: with boys and their mums and girls and their dads.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's so true.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Like I was with Oscar, we're coming back from Bali
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: and we were waiting in line for the bathroom. And
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: I always do this thing where I'm just playing with
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: his hair. I don't know, because he's at that level.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: and I need to fiddle with things.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: I'm the same.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: That must be ADHD.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: It is, it is. But my mum used, and I
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: said to Oscar, I was like, do you know what
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: my mum used to do when, like, she used to
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: rub my ears like that all the time?
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: How good does that feel?
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: So good. But I was like, as I was saying it,
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: I started to remember, like, just the relationship I had
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: with my mum as a small kid. And it's like,
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: as a boy, your mum is your whole world. And
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: you're right. Because Macy's so.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: Little but independent.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: She just goes and does her thing.
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: But Oscar's always just.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Like, you've got to give him your blessing to do,
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: you know, to be independent in that moment.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: But I think it's so normal to have an expectation
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: of what you want, you know, and then for your
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: expectation not to be met, totally valid. And you're allowed
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: to be like, oh, you know, it's not what I
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: pictured it to be. Yeah. But I think for me anyway,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: any disappointment that I had early on is completely evaporated
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: now that they're turning into, Little adults.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like you've got three boys, but you're
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: probably going to get more out of them in those
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: early years, like cuddles and stuff. You're going to get
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: more out of the boy, I reckon, than you would
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: be the girl. Like Oscar is just like, get off me.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Well, my girls cuddle me, so I don't know what
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: you're talking about.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: I've got to cuddle once. Yeah.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Ash, also.
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: Another stellar episode, guys. The donors are out there going.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: My thoughts and prayers to anyone who's had a C-section lately. Like, God.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Any joke I do make is out of love.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Sorry about that. I really do. It would be remiss
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: of us not to mention one of the 24 items
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: we are currently selling on the website.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Where do we start, really?
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: T-shirts.
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: But if they hang around long enough, we just give
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: them away.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Oh no, don't say that. We have some hats. We
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: have the calendar, I think is the priority.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: We have some shirts. Boy, do we have some shirts.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Can I just say, last time we did the calendar,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: we launched it during Black Friday. Terrible business decision. Marketing
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: is very hard. Trying to get anyone's attention during Black.
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: Friday is like, Unless you're a big retailer.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: There's a lot going on and we were like, hello.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Even at home, I'm like, babe, I'm here. She's like,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: not today.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Shut up. But calendar's done very well. We do have
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: just less than 100 remaining in stock. Is that all?
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: That's amazing. Out of 500?
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: You're like, I scripted that.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: I knew when that came out of my mouth, your
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: face went. I can look up how many we got.
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: What's the password again?
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: I'm being serious, guys. Less than 100. There's only one
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: or two left. If you've ever needed a sign for
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: a calendar featuring two men in their mid to late
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: 30s doing domestic work.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: We look good.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Greased up.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: We look good.
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: I've had a lot of compliments.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: You looked great.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: Whoa.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: Actually, there was a lot of comments about the honey
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: with no butter on the sandwich.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 4: People were horrified. Like it was a horror story.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: It's a little bit of rage, babe.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: The time pressures we had that day.
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: It's completely a victimless rage.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: And that's what the internet should be about, not victim rage. Also,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: what I will say is if you do spot yours truly,
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Matt and I, on a billboard, please take a photo
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: of that and send it.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Because there are some Movember billboards kicking around that people
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: have said they've seen.
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: I can't find it.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: In Sydney and in Melbourne. Yes.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Well said. Not Perth.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Perth. No. For God's sake.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: All the Perth people are the only ones who give
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: us reviews.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: When I went to Bali and everyone in Bali was
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: from Perth, I was like, I'm sorry.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Can we just get through one episode without attacking Perth people?
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: Nope.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I love you. Also, if you are a mum or
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: a dad who grew a moustache, it's Movember.
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: Highly encourage mums to show us your moustaches.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: April.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: I encourage Laura. I'm like, Laura, just don't.
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  Speaker 3: Just don't shave it today.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Come on, babe.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: You can do it. You can do it together. Same
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: with April.
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: Don't shave yours today.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I like it when it tickles.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: I want a bit of five o'clock shadow when I
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: get home.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: You can grow a moustache in support of men's health.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Do it. Come with us. Join us. Join us. Join us.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Or you can donate at movember.com.au. Ash, if they've enjoyed
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: this episode.
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: Yes, you can review it on Apple Podcasts, Spotify.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: You can leave a little comment on Twitter. for those
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: three people that are watching slash listening. Otherwise, you can
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: join us where?
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Two Dotting Dads. There is TikTok. There is a Facebook
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: group thriving on the Facebook group and Instagram and YouTube
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: and YouTube Shorts.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: Our Facebook group is thriving.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: It is thriving and it's very funny that that word
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: keeps getting thrown out because I added it to the
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: brief when I first started and I was like, Facebook
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: group is thriving. And you guys have kicked that and
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: run with it for a year.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: That's great.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Good luck getting in. There's a long way.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: And can I just say to the listeners out there,
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: stay happy and healthy.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: And also, you're doing a great job.
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Any other cliches? It's always the last place you look. Goodbye.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Bye.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Two Doting Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: We pay our respects to their elders, past and present,
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Islander peoples today.
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  Speaker 5: This episode was recorded on Gadigal land.