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Speaker 1: Plug them in to jag Zam.
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of honest Stephen's victory week. We're a little
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Speaker 2: belated on victory Monday here on jag Zam, but we
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Speaker 2: are ready to talk about a big win on the
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Speaker 2: road in San Francisco. Let's start out with our big Things,
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Speaker 2: brought to you by g e a J Government Employees
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Speaker 2: Health Association. And took the win because the takeaways continued
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Speaker 2: to roll in. They had four against the forty nine
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Speaker 2: ers on Sunday. Devin Lloyd there with two of them
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Speaker 2: and he had a huge day.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm playing good football, you know, I think as
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Speaker 3: a team, we're all playing good football. And ultimately, you know,
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Speaker 3: I'm just focused on playing my best for the team
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Speaker 3: so we can win. You know, it's a great team win.
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Speaker 3: This is It was complimentary ball and everybody was playing
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Speaker 3: together and believe throughout the whole court, throughout the whole game.
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Speaker 3: So just probably everybody and like I said, we're all
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Speaker 3: playing off each other.
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Speaker 2: Brian, I don't know how long the takeaway party is
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Speaker 2: going to last, but I'm really enjoying it right now
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Speaker 2: and just to see the change. I know we've talked
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Speaker 2: about this from last year to this year. The mentality
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Speaker 2: is completely different, and also to be able to rely
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Speaker 2: on the defense when being put in tough positions continually
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Speaker 2: by the offense later in that game.
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Speaker 4: You know, offensive coaches like to talk about it, it's
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Speaker 4: all about the ball. Same thing on defense. They are
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Speaker 4: so aware of the football. You saw the slow mo
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Speaker 4: I'm sure looking back at the replay of the game
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Speaker 4: of the punch outs, that Foyer and Dennis Gardak had
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Speaker 4: the awareness of being able to clench that fist and
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Speaker 4: punch and get it out before the knees hit the ground.
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Speaker 4: You know, the ball that was there for Devin Lloyd
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Speaker 4: almost over his shoulder on the first interception on the
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Speaker 4: care him to grab it and turn up the field.
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Speaker 4: You're right, they come in bunches. Eventually the numbers are
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Speaker 4: going to start to dwindle, but I don't think they'll
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Speaker 4: ever go away, John, because this football team is so
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Speaker 4: aware of the football, such a concerted effort to get
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Speaker 4: that ball out.
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Speaker 5: Just look at Tyson.
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Speaker 4: Campbell and what do you thinkgainst the Texans, that's rare.
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Speaker 4: This team has got that football right on the top
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Speaker 4: of their mind.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and sometimes look, there is a little bit of
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Speaker 6: a fortune element anytime you have a lot of takeaways
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Speaker 6: because the ball sort of has to bounce your way
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Speaker 6: at times. But there's also playing the game in such
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Speaker 6: a way we perf in positions to get it. Yes,
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Speaker 6: being all about the ball. Also, remember this team has
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Speaker 6: led all but I think nine minutes of the season.
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Speaker 6: They're playing good run defense, which means they are often
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Speaker 6: in situations to rush the passer, which means getting breakups.
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Speaker 7: Which means knowing the other team's gonna throw.
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Speaker 6: So I'm with Brian, I don't it's not going to
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Speaker 6: continue at a pace of three a game and three
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Speaker 6: plus a game now, but it's going to continue as
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Speaker 6: long as they play good defense and as long as
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Speaker 6: they're a team that is staying ahead because the circumstances
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Speaker 6: dictate that you can get them.
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Speaker 2: It's going to a second big thing, which is injury update.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna hopefully get one entreyvon Walker who had a
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Speaker 2: wrist injury a little bit later on in the week.
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Speaker 2: But also when we talk about this defense, offensive line
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Speaker 2: as well, in a bunch of injuries during the game,
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Speaker 2: but still able to kind of have that next man
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Speaker 2: out mentality. Liam Cohen talked about it and.
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Speaker 8: We got down to Rayon lane in the secondary. He
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Speaker 8: did a great job of stepping up. Anthony Perkins and
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Speaker 8: Milo have done a nice job coaching those guys to
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Speaker 8: know what they're doing. It's hard when you get down
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Speaker 8: to that, you know, that number in the game in
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Speaker 8: terms of safety, Jack Kaiser playing, obviously, Monterre Brown, Jarion Jones,
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Speaker 8: everybody kind of had a hand in this.
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Speaker 5: But yeah, it was hard.
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Speaker 8: I mean, we played Sincy down to the wire, right
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Speaker 8: physical ball game. You play Houston down to the wire,
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Speaker 8: physical ball game today obviously another physical outing. We got
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Speaker 8: to look at our schedule, you know, as we go
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Speaker 8: this week to see how we can take care of
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Speaker 8: these guys.
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Speaker 2: John Safety, Eric Murray and Treymon Walker injured on that
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Speaker 2: same play. Actually, is this kind of you know, the
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Speaker 2: injuries are stacking up a little bit. We don't know
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Speaker 2: the severity of all of them just yet, but this
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Speaker 2: is going to be a more physical football team. Is
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Speaker 2: this part of the deal somewhat?
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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, right now, it's it feels like
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Speaker 6: they've got two guys that are concerned, Trayvon and Eric Murray.
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Speaker 6: Your four games into the season, that seems sort of
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Speaker 6: normal pace I don't think either of them are out
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Speaker 6: for the season at all, according to what I've heard.
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Speaker 6: But you are going to get more banged up, Brian,
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Speaker 6: the more physical you play.
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Speaker 7: This is a physical team. I was really.
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Speaker 6: Impressed with the way that, you know, good teams generally
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Speaker 6: you look at the injury report after the game and like, oh,
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Speaker 6: they got a couple guys hurt. Bad teams, you're writing
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Speaker 6: about it because that's the reason they lost.
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Speaker 4: You know, good teams continue to win in situations where
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Speaker 4: they have to put guys like ryon Lane in. But
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Speaker 4: if you have to play a long period of time
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Speaker 4: without players the caliber of Eric Murray and Trayvon Walker,
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Speaker 4: in other words, difference makers, well then you kind of
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Speaker 4: become what we've seen in places like Cincinnati and San
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Speaker 4: Francisco last weekend. You've got to have your frontline players
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Speaker 4: out there. Kay and John, you and I have talked
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Speaker 4: about this. Trayvon Walker plays such a Phis style. He
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Speaker 4: always has, that's nothing new for him. The fact that
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Speaker 4: he's been so remarkably healthy. I think he had missed
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Speaker 4: one game in his career at this point, and he's
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Speaker 4: arguably the most physical player on your football team. To
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Speaker 4: not have him for an extended period of time is
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Speaker 4: going to be very difficult to replace because he's such
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Speaker 4: a game wrecker. And we've been talking about this now,
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Speaker 4: you know the comparisons between him and Aiden Hutchinson and
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Speaker 4: who's the better player. This guy is such a good player.
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Speaker 4: If he's gone for a couple of weeks, they're going.
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Speaker 5: To feel it.
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Speaker 2: I think it's at all possible for him to play,
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Speaker 2: though he will find a way. I know Treyvon will
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Speaker 2: be out there with a club if he can. So
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Speaker 2: we'll keep you updated throughout the week as we get
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Speaker 2: more information about Trayvon's injury. Our final thing today is
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Speaker 2: going to be talk that talk for big things because
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Speaker 2: a lot of talking during the week from coach, but
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Speaker 2: he didn't have a ton to say after the game
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Speaker 2: about on the field altercation.
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Speaker 9: Oows, not a big deal, you know, and just keep
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Speaker 9: that between us.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 9: We're going to keep that between us. No, they're going
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Speaker 9: to keep that between us right now. That's it, Liam.
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Speaker 2: Cohen, Robert Sall going to keep that between them. Brian,
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Speaker 2: we can talk about it though not a true altercation,
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Speaker 2: but they were yapping at each other. We heard some
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Speaker 2: words from Sla earlier in the week saying that complimenting
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Speaker 2: that Liam Cohen's able to kind of see the signs
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Speaker 2: of the defense and then adjust at the line of scrimmage,
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Speaker 2: which I think a lot of teams do, but to
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Speaker 2: see that out of their coach, I think a lot
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Speaker 2: of players were excited to see Liam Cohen out there
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Speaker 2: fighting for his team. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I read somewhere that Liam Cohen doesn't back down, and
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Speaker 4: neither will his team. And for a team that we've
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Speaker 4: talked about not being very resilient in recent years, Liam
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Speaker 4: Cohen's the perfect guy to lead them actions not words. Right,
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Speaker 4: they went out and won. They beat Liam Cohen's defense.
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Speaker 4: I think it should have been a bigger victory. If
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Speaker 4: the offense had converted more on third down, it probably
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Speaker 4: would have been. Liam even said that yesterday the Jaguars
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Speaker 4: had a commanding victory over the San Francisco forty nine ers,
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Speaker 4: and so Liam could afford a chirp a little bit
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Speaker 4: and let his feelings be known to saw. He wouldn't
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Speaker 4: do it with the media, and I appreciate that. There's
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Speaker 4: no reason to just keep the thing going. He made
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Speaker 4: his point to Sola and to the Niners and to
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Speaker 4: the rest of the league on the field.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I thought he handled it the right way.
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Speaker 6: I mean, it's if you say something about it publicly.
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Speaker 6: Now those words sort of attached to it forever. People
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Speaker 6: go back and they use it. It was one of
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Speaker 6: the weirder compliments that was maybe a compliment, maybe not,
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Speaker 6: and maybe it was just really weird and the Jack Howards.
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Speaker 7: We didn't do anything wrong in this.
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Speaker 6: Uh, it was clear from listening to Robert Hainsey this
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Speaker 6: week and uh uh Dennis gardeck uh. The players liked it,
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Speaker 6: and uh, you know what, what's an NFL season without
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Speaker 6: some of the This was fun.
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Speaker 7: The game's supposed to be fun.
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Speaker 1: Nice to have a little fire. Yeah, I mean John's
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Speaker 1: rased up.
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Speaker 10: Can't write a better script than that, to be honest,
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Speaker 10: just woke up today, you know, didn't want to make
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Speaker 10: it bigger than it was and just live in the
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Speaker 10: moment and you know see what today had to bring in.
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Speaker 10: It was a pretty special day, probably one I won't
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Speaker 10: forget that.
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Speaker 2: Smile from Eric Armstead says a lot. I don't think
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Speaker 2: he will forget that game. And getting to go back
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Speaker 2: to the team that he played for for quite a
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Speaker 2: long time and let him go.
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Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty fitting ending.
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Speaker 5: Do you remember a training camp when the story was
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Speaker 5: where's Eric Ormstead? Right? Is he going to play this year?
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Speaker 5: We need him this year?
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Speaker 4: He went to such extraordinary links and people don't know
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Speaker 4: and I won't detail it, but he went to extraordinary
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Speaker 4: links to be able to get back on the field.
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Speaker 4: And here he is now making the biggest play of
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Speaker 4: the ball game, in the biggest ball game of the year.
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Speaker 4: John had a place where they hadn't won. I mean,
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Speaker 4: he's a good football player and he's playing well right now.
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Speaker 4: It's really important for the Jaguars that he can team
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Speaker 4: used to.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I smiled when you said that because preseason storylines.
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Speaker 1: Right sure seemed very important.
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Speaker 6: Remember preceed and storyline when they couldn't get lined up
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Speaker 6: and it's gonna be an atrocious defense. Well, you know
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Speaker 6: in preseason, just relaxed. But yes, credit Derek Armstead made
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Speaker 6: a huge play. And I said before the game sometimes
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Speaker 6: pregame storylines about players going back places don't mean much.
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Speaker 6: But they let him go, and so good for him
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Speaker 6: that he had that moment. He's been a big reason
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Speaker 6: why they're a really good run defense this year and
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Speaker 6: why the defensive front's played so well.
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Speaker 2: The change of position for him has been huge. It's
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Speaker 2: like completely different from what we've seen from him from
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Speaker 2: last season. All right, let's start out with the defense,
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Speaker 2: because why not. Dennis Gardak another free agent addition to
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Speaker 2: this team coming in, and we talked about the takeaway parade.
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Speaker 2: It continued into this game. I don't know how long
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Speaker 2: it's gonna last. I'm loving it while it is lasting.
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Speaker 2: Just the relentlessness. And I know we're gonna get to
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Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd a a little bit later on. But a
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Speaker 2: lot of the different players and defense talking about playing
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Speaker 2: free and they can just focus on where the football
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Speaker 2: is at all times, not getting bogged down too much
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Speaker 2: in the details.
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Speaker 1: That seems to be really working for them right now.
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Speaker 4: Listen, this is the perfect example of what I talked
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Speaker 4: about off the top of the show thinking and turning
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Speaker 4: and punching that ball out, not just getting the guy
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Speaker 4: on the ground. It is what they do, it is
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Speaker 4: who they are.
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Speaker 6: And then there's awareness, you know, they make the play
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Speaker 6: after the balls on the ground. And again I'm not
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Speaker 6: trying to not get into the takeaway theme because you can't.
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Speaker 6: But what's gonna last and what's creating some of these
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Speaker 6: is Dennis Gardik mentioned it the other day, the physicality
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Speaker 6: with which they play. They're all about getting off blocks
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Speaker 6: and they're about hitting, and Gardik talked about it being
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Speaker 6: refreshing to play for a defense that plays the right way.
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Speaker 6: The hitting and the violence is not gonna go away
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Speaker 6: even the takeaways.
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Speaker 4: Do Just look at the way that he turns away
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Speaker 4: from his guy and runs immediately to punch that out.
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Speaker 4: I've never seen that in Jacksonville before. It is sensation
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Speaker 4: to watch these guys go for the ball.
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Speaker 1: Oh, let's take a look at the offense now.
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Speaker 2: Travis Etn's had a bit of a renaissance or resurgence
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Speaker 2: if you will, with the focus on the run that
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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen has been having. John I know we talked
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Speaker 2: about it in the press box. Collen can really coach
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Speaker 2: up the run, and Travis is fully taking advantage of
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Speaker 2: all the plays coming his way.
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Speaker 6: This is a mature running back, still at the peak
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Speaker 6: of his physical powers, who, unlike when he was in
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Speaker 6: his second year, knows how to run and he's talked
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Speaker 6: about it a lot. When he first got into the NFL,
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Speaker 6: he was running like he did in college, which meant
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Speaker 6: he was better than everybody in college and run away
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Speaker 6: from people. This run here, if you notice, he got
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Speaker 6: an unbelievable blocking. But at the end when he makes
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Speaker 6: the cut in, I don't think he makes this play
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Speaker 6: as a rookie. I think he runs out of bounds
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Speaker 6: or gets run out of bounds. And I'm saying this
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Speaker 6: as a he has turned into a professional. His professionalism
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Speaker 6: and his work ethic made this touchdown.
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Speaker 4: This wasn't even my favorite run of the game. I mean,
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Speaker 4: being slightly facetious. Who doesn't love a forty eight yard
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Speaker 4: touchdown run. But eleven yard run up the middle for
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Speaker 4: a first down. We didn't see that from him last
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Speaker 4: year when they handed him the ball between the tackles
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Speaker 4: most often he was stuck at the line of scrimmage
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Speaker 4: for a one yard gain or a one yard loss.
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Speaker 4: His confidence level is at an all time high. The
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Speaker 4: coach mentioned it in his press conference on Monday afternoon.
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Speaker 4: He's playing at a really, really high level, and it's
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Speaker 4: good for him because he's in the fifth year option,
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Speaker 4: he's looking for a contract next year. He's delivering. The
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Speaker 4: team is winning because of it. He's a great story.
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Speaker 6: And I hope people remember this next off season or
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Speaker 6: early next season when there's talk of trading a good
12:34
Speaker 6: player who's in his last year of his contract, everybody
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Speaker 6: alays wants to trade those guys. The current season counts
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Speaker 6: and Traves d Tan is exactly why you don't trade
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Speaker 6: good football.
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Speaker 2: Players, some of the most motivated people on your squad
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Speaker 2: as well. Let's look here the crazy catch by Pearsol,
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Speaker 2: because I just want to take another look at what
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Speaker 2: he was able to do in this game. That was
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Speaker 2: probably the only big target they had because of injury availability.
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Speaker 2: But Tyson ca on the coverage here, just crazy to
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Speaker 2: come down with this catch here. But then again, the defense,
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Speaker 2: when we're talking about resiliency, letting up a big play
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Speaker 2: like that, not letting that spiral on them, not letting
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Speaker 2: that turn into momentum, and then Devin Lloyd coming back
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Speaker 2: after that getting his first interception of the game because
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Speaker 2: he had two attacking It's just amazing. And that's you know,
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Speaker 2: and look at all the Teal jerseys around and the
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Speaker 2: coverage is great anyway, but just to come away with
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Speaker 2: the ball there.
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Speaker 4: This defense, for lack of a better phrase, they're like
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Speaker 4: a wrench in a machine, you know. I mean, just
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Speaker 4: as soon as you think that you've got some sort
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Speaker 4: of rhythm going with a long past to pure soul, right,
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Speaker 4: they come back and take the ball away. They just
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Speaker 4: disrupt and keep you from feeling like you can get
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Speaker 4: anything going right now. I know the long drive against
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Speaker 4: the Bengals they didn't. But the rest of the time
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Speaker 4: this season they've been remarkable at just breaking a team's rhythm.
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Speaker 7: But they did against the Bengals. They got them off
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Speaker 7: the field, and that's a bad call.
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Speaker 6: It This is credit to approach these turnovers NFL these days,
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Speaker 6: it is designed that you're going to have Ricky Piersoll plays,
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Speaker 6: So Campanelli's approach and good defensive coordinators these days, look,
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Speaker 6: you're going to give up plays. The key is effort
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Speaker 6: in the moment and eventually if you give that effort.
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Speaker 7: I think it was.
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Speaker 6: Guardac said yesterday. God rewards those who hustle or who
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Speaker 6: r under the ball. That's what NFL defense is these days.
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Speaker 6: You're not going to hold teams to eighty yards. You
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Speaker 6: need to get turnovers. You can to make plays in
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Speaker 6: the big moments. And as far as Devin Lloyd look
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Speaker 6: for four years, getting around the ball at times has
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Speaker 6: been a problem.
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Speaker 7: When he's around the ball, he makes plays.
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Speaker 6: He makes interceptions as a rookie, so seeing him make
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Speaker 6: plays around the ball isn't surprising. About the only time
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Speaker 6: he didn't was the year he had a hand injury
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Speaker 6: and he had his hands on the ball four or
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Speaker 6: five times and dropped it because he only had one hand.
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Speaker 7: This kid could make plays.
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Speaker 6: For a man of his size, to be able to
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Speaker 6: have hands like this and make plays is really unusual
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Speaker 6: and good on him for right now in the.
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Speaker 5: Size being the key issue.
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Speaker 4: I mean, you see him standing there in front of
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Speaker 4: that podium, and how big, how long his arms are,
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Speaker 4: how broad his shoulders are. They just earned a lot
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Speaker 4: of linebackers. Most linebackers in this league are for a Lukon,
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Speaker 4: they're Ventrel Miller. They're around six foot one, maybe six
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Speaker 4: foot two two hundred and twenty five pounds. This guy
15:21
Speaker 4: is a physical specimen from a throwback era. If you've
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Speaker 4: got him playing, well, man, do you have something on
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Speaker 4: this defense?
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Speaker 2: Let's take a look at the first touchdown from the
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Speaker 2: play before. We got a big third down catch out
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Speaker 2: of Travis Hunter. And we know there's always at least
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Speaker 2: one play we see what he does on defense, but
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Speaker 2: on offense, there's always one play game where you're like, oh,
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Speaker 2: and like, that's I think what people want more out
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Speaker 2: of him. But just for him to go up and
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Speaker 2: grab that come down with it, I think they looked
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Speaker 2: at the play. I don't think there's anything to overturn
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Speaker 2: whether he caught it or not, But just in that moment,
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Speaker 2: that's what you need from him.
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Speaker 6: Like I said before the season, I didn't know what
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Speaker 6: his stats were going to be. Offensively, you could tell,
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Speaker 6: and you still can tell he's a really good cornerback,
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Speaker 6: but I thought offensively there was going to be a
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Speaker 6: chance that people were going there's haters out there in
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Speaker 6: this world, right you know that haters. Well, that the
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Speaker 6: haters were not going to like his stats because they
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Speaker 6: were going to expect twelve hundred yards and twelve touchdowns,
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Speaker 6: I don't think he's that. But think about the last
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Speaker 6: two weeks against against Houston, he has the play where
16:25
Speaker 6: he turns a short pass into a first down. It's
16:28
Speaker 6: a field goal at the end of that drive, and
16:30
Speaker 6: they wind up winning about seven points.
16:33
Speaker 7: I'm not sure they win this game without this play.
16:35
Speaker 5: No, I don't think they do.
16:36
Speaker 6: So those are two back to back weeks where if
16:39
Speaker 6: you're trying to hate on Travis Hunter, okay, the stats,
16:42
Speaker 6: if you're watching the impact he makes on this team,
16:45
Speaker 6: big moment plays, which by the way, we didn't have
16:47
Speaker 6: a lot of last year around here.
16:49
Speaker 4: He makes big moment plays. Well, you said it all
16:51
Speaker 4: through the course of training camp. If you get two
16:53
Speaker 4: or three plays like this from him a game and
16:55
Speaker 4: they lead to a win, you're happy. The stats don't
16:58
Speaker 4: matter at all. And the fact is is that they've
17:00
Speaker 4: been able to deploy him john where they need him
17:02
Speaker 4: on offense because you don't have Dianmi Brown a couple
17:05
Speaker 4: of weeks ago. You need him in Cincinnati because they
17:08
Speaker 4: play so well with those big receivers out there. He
17:11
Speaker 4: is a very talented player. I think at some point
17:13
Speaker 4: in his career we're going to see numbers from him
17:16
Speaker 4: touchdowns and interceptions, but at this point in his career,
17:19
Speaker 4: number two overall pick under scrutiny because the Jaguars traded
17:22
Speaker 4: a lot to get him, He's delivered.
17:24
Speaker 6: It's three straight weeks with the impact play. Because if
17:27
Speaker 6: you're judging this, he made an impact play against Cincinnati.
17:29
Speaker 7: Should have won the game, Yes he did.
17:31
Speaker 2: Let's take a look at the McCaffrey touchdown because obviously
17:33
Speaker 2: we knew Christian McCaffrey is going to be a main
17:35
Speaker 2: focus of their offense, and relatively for McCaffrey held in check,
17:39
Speaker 2: I mean he was going to get his anyway. This
17:40
Speaker 2: is where some of the injuries kind of come into play.
17:42
Speaker 2: Don't see if Foyer looking in on this, Jack Heiser's
17:45
Speaker 2: in I think at this point in the game, he's
17:46
Speaker 2: dealing with another person dealing with some injuries. He did
17:48
Speaker 2: finish the game, but it shows you the importance of
17:52
Speaker 2: some of that linebacker play when they're not in there,
17:53
Speaker 2: and Trayvon for that matter, when they're not in there well.
17:56
Speaker 4: And this shows you also that Kyle Shanahan with McCaffrey
18:00
Speaker 4: uses a lot of trick plays. I don't know what
18:02
Speaker 4: he called this a trick player, not it's a shovel pass,
18:05
Speaker 4: but that in the hook and ladder were things that
18:07
Speaker 4: created misdirection and took advantage of guys who were out
18:10
Speaker 4: of the football game.
18:11
Speaker 5: And they found a way.
18:12
Speaker 4: The NFL is built for plays like this, for players
18:16
Speaker 4: like this, and for the Jaguars to just kind of
18:18
Speaker 4: hold their hand out and keep the Niners from coming
18:20
Speaker 4: back is a testament to that defense and the guys
18:23
Speaker 4: that were in there on that play.
18:24
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not sure that play happens if Trayvon's in
18:26
Speaker 6: the game or Foyer, but when Christ McCaffrey's on the
18:30
Speaker 6: other side of the ball, at some point, the other
18:33
Speaker 6: team is going to score a couple of touchdowns because
18:36
Speaker 6: he's elite. So this was a game that I thought
18:41
Speaker 6: really showed NFL defense, Like we talked about before, you're
18:44
Speaker 6: going to give up yours.
18:45
Speaker 7: I mean, you know you're going to give up theirs.
18:47
Speaker 7: You got to get yours when you have a chance.
18:48
Speaker 5: That they did.
18:49
Speaker 2: Let's take a little jump ahead and look at Parker's
18:52
Speaker 2: kick return, because we know what he's capable of.
18:54
Speaker 1: We've seen him do this before. We didn't London last year.
18:57
Speaker 2: But I feel like at times at least from my perspective,
19:00
Speaker 2: getting a little caught up in trying to jupe people
19:03
Speaker 2: out in the beginning, sometimes not necessarily taking the lanes,
19:05
Speaker 2: but he absolutely did it on this one and took
19:07
Speaker 2: it to the house.
19:08
Speaker 1: Yeah.
19:08
Speaker 6: I don't know that he is necessarily going to ever
19:13
Speaker 6: be the NFL's best punt returner for a season. But
19:18
Speaker 6: here's what he does that's so good. He catches the
19:21
Speaker 6: ball back there, he's reliable, and then when.
19:25
Speaker 7: It opens up like this, he takes it.
19:28
Speaker 6: He's done this twice so again, there are times that
19:32
Speaker 6: it feels like he dances, but this time he made
19:34
Speaker 6: a move and he went. So I think they like
19:37
Speaker 6: the fact that they can rely on him and every
19:40
Speaker 6: once in a while he's got a chance to go.
19:42
Speaker 11: You know.
19:43
Speaker 4: He reminds me of Maurice Jones, Drew and people who
19:45
Speaker 4: were around when he was a young player. Remember, because
19:48
Speaker 4: of Fred Taylor, the drag Wars could afford to put
19:50
Speaker 4: him out there to return punts and kickoffs, and he
19:52
Speaker 4: had a couple of touchdowns. Again, just because of his build,
19:55
Speaker 4: he was never going to be that guy that just
19:58
Speaker 4: got into a lane and outran people.
20:00
Speaker 5: But he joked a little bit and got.
20:01
Speaker 4: His hips moving in one direction and his shoulders in another,
20:04
Speaker 4: and got to the outside and found ways to get
20:06
Speaker 4: to the end zone. That's what I was thinking of
20:08
Speaker 4: watching him return that. The other day, he had a
20:11
Speaker 4: punt return and a kickoff return against the Colts in
20:14
Speaker 4: his career, and in both of those he just made
20:17
Speaker 4: guys miss I think this guy can do the same thing.
20:21
Speaker 7: And credit this kid.
20:22
Speaker 6: He came in and he really didn't have a standout
20:25
Speaker 6: rookie season. It seems like he was trying to figure
20:28
Speaker 6: things out late round pick. He could have easily disappeared
20:33
Speaker 6: into the woodwork in the NFL and has is a
20:38
Speaker 6: huge contributor for this team even this year.
20:42
Speaker 7: Three wide receivers, he was the fourth guy.
20:45
Speaker 6: He matters and it's hard from the position he was
20:48
Speaker 6: in to work yourself into a position where you matter
20:51
Speaker 6: in the NFL.
20:52
Speaker 4: Two players that we've talked about in this segment alone
20:54
Speaker 4: who amplify what you were just talking about, Parker Washington
20:57
Speaker 4: and Devin Lloyd. Two guys that took a little time
21:00
Speaker 4: to get their feet underneath them and needed some coaching
21:02
Speaker 4: and the right system to come along and put them
21:04
Speaker 4: in a place where their talents could be featured, but
21:07
Speaker 4: patience is sometimes a lost virtue in professional football.
21:11
Speaker 5: Young players need time.
21:13
Speaker 2: Let's go to our final takeaway of the game, because
21:16
Speaker 2: we had Eric Armstead talking about it off the top
21:18
Speaker 2: and in a drive where you know, the Jaguars are
21:22
Speaker 2: leading here, but forty nine ers have the ball. If
21:25
Speaker 2: they go down to score touchdown, they're going to win
21:26
Speaker 2: this game. Didn't even give them the chance to get
21:28
Speaker 2: into it.
21:29
Speaker 6: Yeah, at this point you're sort of counting time, and
21:32
Speaker 6: I think everybody was sort of saying, Okay, if they
21:35
Speaker 6: score with you know, forty seconds left, can they go
21:38
Speaker 6: down and get cam little. I mean, it's become such
21:40
Speaker 6: a game of circumstance in the last three minutes like that,
21:45
Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden you look up and
21:46
Speaker 6: the balls on the ground and jars. So we've talked
21:53
Speaker 6: about it the last couple of years. Year and a half,
21:55
Speaker 6: they didn't make plays at the end of games like this,
21:58
Speaker 6: and the difference and good teams. I mean, here about
22:02
Speaker 6: an ugly win, Brian and oh had it. Good seasons
22:07
Speaker 6: are built on victories like that.
22:09
Speaker 4: Where's the column for ugly wins as opposed to be
22:11
Speaker 4: pretty wins? We haven't had enough of those around here
22:13
Speaker 4: to discern either way. I'll just say this, the man
22:15
Speaker 4: in the middle to have Eric Armstead there in the
22:17
Speaker 4: middle being blocked with a long arms to reach out
22:21
Speaker 4: and take the ball again awareness of the ball.
22:25
Speaker 2: Winning is winning, fellas, winning is winning. Jags are three
22:28
Speaker 2: and one. Stay with us after the break. We're gonna
22:30
Speaker 2: give you our hot takes coming up. Jagsam brought to
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Speaker 2: you today by Firehouse Subs. Will get your hot takes
22:40
Speaker 2: as well.
22:44
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, we're it's a great start for us.
22:46
Speaker 11: Like I've said the last couple of weeks, I mean
22:48
Speaker 11: it's early in the year still, but the way we've
22:51
Speaker 11: won a couple of these games, and I think just
22:54
Speaker 11: in any game, there's gonna be adversity and ups and downs,
22:56
Speaker 11: and just the way we've handled them has been it's
22:58
Speaker 11: been awesome. Teams really coming together, getting behind each other,
23:02
Speaker 11: playing complimentary football. When something happens, we really take advantage
23:05
Speaker 11: of the momentum swings. I think that was a big
23:06
Speaker 11: thing to there, and we just play a full game.
23:10
Speaker 11: You don't know what the next play is gonna hold.
23:12
Speaker 11: Just even if something bad happened to play before, just
23:15
Speaker 11: play the next play. Keep looking forward, and I think
23:17
Speaker 11: this team's done a good job of that, but we
23:19
Speaker 11: gotta keep keep doing it.
23:21
Speaker 1: I keep doing it, keep getting better week by week.
23:23
Speaker 1: But the team's three and one, so I'm not going
23:25
Speaker 1: to complain too much at this point. Brian. When you
23:28
Speaker 1: look at the scene, what is your hot take for
23:29
Speaker 1: us today?
23:30
Speaker 5: Enjoy them? Why you got it?
23:32
Speaker 4: The defensive coordinator and the job that he is doing
23:34
Speaker 4: is catching people's attention around the league after just a month,
23:38
Speaker 4: and again, thirteen takeaways is a striking number.
23:42
Speaker 5: But the Jaguars defense John was so awful last year.
23:46
Speaker 4: They couldn't stop anybody, and of course we all know
23:49
Speaker 4: they only created eight of the team's nine takeaways last year.
23:53
Speaker 5: Keipan Eely is a guy.
23:54
Speaker 4: He was in Miami, he was in Green Bay, so
23:55
Speaker 4: he's been exposed around the league as an up and comer.
23:59
Speaker 4: But what he's able to do in the first month
24:01
Speaker 4: has a lot of people saying who is this guy?
24:04
Speaker 5: How good is he?
24:06
Speaker 4: And we all know how personable he is, how his
24:08
Speaker 4: players love playing for him. I'm not saying he's gone
24:11
Speaker 4: after this year, that a job comes open and he
24:13
Speaker 4: gets it, but his name is going to start making
24:15
Speaker 4: shortlists of people because of the job that he has done.
24:19
Speaker 5: He is that good of a young coach.
24:20
Speaker 6: Yeah, I shook his hand in February, and ten minutes
24:24
Speaker 6: after I shook his hands, say, this guy's gonna be
24:25
Speaker 6: a head coach some.
24:26
Speaker 7: Day because he takes the right approach.
24:29
Speaker 6: Look, the defense is great, but he's going to be
24:32
Speaker 6: an outstanding head coach when it comes to his opportunity because
24:35
Speaker 6: he can connect with players. And again, what the league's
24:38
Speaker 6: going to see when they look at this defense. The
24:41
Speaker 6: takeaways are great. That can be short term. The way
24:45
Speaker 6: they play and the way they hit, the way they come.
24:47
Speaker 7: Off blocks, that's what's sustainable.
24:50
Speaker 6: That's what he preaches and that's why he's that will
24:54
Speaker 6: eventually be.
24:54
Speaker 7: The calling card.
24:55
Speaker 4: Well, and I got a call from a guy on
24:56
Speaker 4: Sunday night that I've known for a long time in
24:58
Speaker 4: respect and he goes, listen, You're number may never be
25:00
Speaker 4: great because you kind of play that bend but don't break.
25:02
Speaker 4: But he goes, look at the numbers against the run,
25:04
Speaker 4: and the Jaguars are very highly rated against the run.
25:06
Speaker 4: Look at the takeaways, and look at the points. If
25:08
Speaker 4: you just look at those three categories and then compare
25:11
Speaker 4: them to last year. That's why people are all of
25:13
Speaker 4: a sudden tuning their attention to the Jaguars defense.
25:16
Speaker 5: They're very good in the most important categories.
25:18
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
25:18
Speaker 2: And when we talk about coach Campinelli, I think one
25:20
Speaker 2: of the big things is he's very authentic and the
25:22
Speaker 2: players love that. Why would they not, Because you can
25:25
Speaker 2: come in with the bravado and a persona, but if
25:27
Speaker 2: that's not genuinely who you are, the players can tell
25:30
Speaker 2: that and you're not going to get the buy in.
25:31
Speaker 1: But he's genuinely who he is.
25:32
Speaker 4: And one more quick note, that's what Liam Cohen signed
25:35
Speaker 4: up for. He knew that he was hiring a young
25:37
Speaker 4: coach that was very highly regarded and very talented. When
25:40
Speaker 4: you hire a staff, you want guys that draw the
25:43
Speaker 4: attention of other people. You want to lose them that quickly,
25:45
Speaker 4: but you understand they're doing such a good job that
25:48
Speaker 4: their names are going to come up.
25:49
Speaker 5: If you have that, you're building.
25:51
Speaker 2: Something the right way and you're doing something right. John,
25:53
Speaker 2: what's your hot take for us today?
25:55
Speaker 6: This is as real as it's been a long time
25:57
Speaker 6: in a long long time around here. I'm talking about
26:01
Speaker 6: that three and one start. I keep getting emails about
26:04
Speaker 6: where they're winning ugly. They're not doing this. I thought
26:07
Speaker 6: Liam Cohen explained this very well when he spoke to
26:11
Speaker 6: me the Monday after the game. It really struck me.
26:14
Speaker 6: The deal where they've only trailed for nine minutes is
26:18
Speaker 6: a real thing, meaning they're in control of these games.
26:22
Speaker 6: They're playing with the lead, they're getting up a break
26:25
Speaker 6: to use a tennis term, and then they're holding it out.
26:28
Speaker 6: That's hard to do in the NFL, even with some
26:31
Speaker 6: of the flaws, even with not closing.
26:32
Speaker 7: Out or whatever. You're always playing with the edge so.
26:36
Speaker 6: You're in control of the game. They've done that four
26:39
Speaker 6: weeks and they lost one they should have won. To
26:45
Speaker 6: be in control of four straight games in the NFL,
26:48
Speaker 6: no matter who the opponent, that's solid, and this foundation
26:54
Speaker 6: that they're building, Brian feels very very solid moving forward
26:58
Speaker 6: to me.
26:58
Speaker 4: I was just telling someone the other day, I don't
27:00
Speaker 4: know what the end record will be. I mean, you
27:02
Speaker 4: don't know how healthy you stay. And it's still a
27:04
Speaker 4: young team in its first year with Liam Cohen, but
27:06
Speaker 4: the fundamentals, they run the ball, they stop the run,
27:08
Speaker 4: they take it away. Listen, Ky, they're three and one
27:11
Speaker 4: and they've won two in a row, and in those
27:13
Speaker 4: two wins, they've converted nine of twenty nine on third down.
27:18
Speaker 4: That's an abysmal number. That's not a winning number. And
27:21
Speaker 4: yet they're three and one because defense and special teams
27:23
Speaker 4: have stepped up and the offense has made just enough plays.
27:26
Speaker 4: Imagine when the Jaguars are converting. I always think of
27:30
Speaker 4: Peyton Manning and those Colts teams because they were always
27:32
Speaker 4: converting around fifty five percent on third down.
27:35
Speaker 7: John, you know you got a standard.
27:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you can get to forty seven percent, forty seven.
27:40
Speaker 5: They're like thirty three right now.
27:42
Speaker 4: But if you can just convert a couple more of those,
27:44
Speaker 4: think about how you dominate time of possession, think about
27:47
Speaker 4: how you score more points. I thought that the Jaguars
27:50
Speaker 4: should have won that game by a much more impressive number,
27:53
Speaker 4: and Liam even said it on Monday afternoon in a
27:55
Speaker 4: Zoom press conference.
27:56
Speaker 5: It should have been a bigger win.
27:58
Speaker 4: Why wasn't it a more dominating when they couldn't stay
28:01
Speaker 4: on the field offensively, When they are staying on the
28:03
Speaker 4: field and that defense is getting more time to rest,
28:06
Speaker 4: this thing can look a lot better than it does
28:08
Speaker 4: right now. And three on one looks pretty good.
28:10
Speaker 2: It still does with room for improvement. I'm going to
28:12
Speaker 2: give a little shout out to the coaching staff. My
28:14
Speaker 2: hot take is players play, but Schemer's scheme. We talk
28:17
Speaker 2: a lot about the players having to go out there
28:19
Speaker 2: make the plays, so Jimmys and Joe's not Ex's and O's.
28:22
Speaker 2: But I'm going to give some credit to the coaching
28:23
Speaker 2: staff here because we are seeing play out of players
28:26
Speaker 2: that were here last year and they are completely different levels.
28:29
Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd, we're talking about Travis Dtn, Eric Arms said
28:32
Speaker 2: back to his original position. Even Anton Harrison on the
28:35
Speaker 2: offensive line, we've seen him look more like he did
28:37
Speaker 2: his rookie season. And so for me, yes, coaches are
28:41
Speaker 2: not out there on the field, but they can set
28:43
Speaker 2: their players up for success. And what we've seen from
28:45
Speaker 2: both Campanie and from coach Cohen is that he's putting
28:48
Speaker 2: his players in a situation where they can go to
28:50
Speaker 2: their best ability and play to their own strengths, not
28:54
Speaker 2: getting bogged down with other things. Devin Lloyd, I know,
28:57
Speaker 2: has talked about playing freer Travis Etn as well, having
28:59
Speaker 2: the ability to kind of go out there and be
29:02
Speaker 2: creative with what they're doing not freelancing, but being themselves again.
29:06
Speaker 2: And to see the resurgent with players who last year
29:08
Speaker 2: maybe were liabilities at times on the team.
29:11
Speaker 1: Now your best players.
29:12
Speaker 4: Since you mentioned Devin Lloyd, Mark Duffner, the longtime linebackers
29:14
Speaker 4: coach who was a guest on this show, and I
29:16
Speaker 4: were standing talking during training camp and I said, what's
29:18
Speaker 4: it going to take for someone to unlock Devin Lloyd?
29:22
Speaker 4: And he said, it's going to take a great coach
29:24
Speaker 4: because the guys obviously got the skill set, the physical abilities,
29:27
Speaker 4: and Devin is a bright guy. It's on the coaches
29:30
Speaker 4: to get that guy in a spot, and clearly they've
29:33
Speaker 4: done that.
29:35
Speaker 2: I love to see it. So I'm going to give
29:36
Speaker 2: some shout outs to the coaches for that. Say well,
29:38
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29:40
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Speaker 8: All three phases talk about three takeaways, guys in four
30:08
Speaker 8: says the first time.
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Speaker 7: Ever fifty yards rushing.
30:19
Speaker 5: Those shocks allowed those.
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Speaker 1: Harks.
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30:36
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30:43
Speaker 2: The ball is precious and they treat it that way
30:46
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Speaker 5: What I mean, come on, it doesn't get much better
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Speaker 5: than that.
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Speaker 4: People who were here at the end of the twenty
31:09
Speaker 4: twenty two season when the Jaguars beat the Titans and
31:12
Speaker 4: then the Chargers back to back Saturday night prime time,
31:16
Speaker 4: it was epic. The league knows that this place can
31:20
Speaker 4: be a fun place when they're winning, and they're glad
31:23
Speaker 4: that they're almost to standing room only tickets because they
31:25
Speaker 4: want to show what Jacksonville's capable of.
31:28
Speaker 6: It's been at times for the last since I've been back,
31:32
Speaker 6: he guys an eleven and this is not taking away
31:35
Speaker 6: from seventeen, twenty two, twenty three. It's been some times
31:39
Speaker 6: where it's been rough. This feels like a kickstart game
31:44
Speaker 6: in terms of people are going to come down and
31:46
Speaker 6: remember what it can be.
31:47
Speaker 5: And I'm excited.
31:48
Speaker 4: If you listen, if you watch the video of them
31:51
Speaker 4: in the locker room, that's a guy that those players
31:53
Speaker 4: will run through.
31:53
Speaker 1: The wall for.
31:54
Speaker 4: It's tough to get these multi millionaire players fired up
31:58
Speaker 4: like college.
31:58
Speaker 5: Kids, and yet he's got with an energy level. He's
32:02
Speaker 5: really good.
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Speaker 1: How about that? We love to see it.
32:05
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a little bit of a different week
32:06
Speaker 2: because Monday Night football players are off Tuesday and Wednesday,
32:10
Speaker 2: so we'll be back with you on Wednesday as we
32:12
Speaker 2: start looking ahead a little bit to that Monday night
32:13
Speaker 2: football matchup.
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Speaker 1: Enjoy a week. We'll see you again soon.