Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / David Cunningham: Squirrel Mortgages CEO on first home buyers dominating the market
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- 0:00Speaker 1: So first home buy is account of for twenty seven
- 0:02Speaker 1: percent of the market in July. This is way above
- 0:05Speaker 1: their long term average of twenty one to twenty two percent.
- 0:07Speaker 1: And your movers, these are your owner occupiers selling and
- 0:11Speaker 1: rebuying pretty consistent, same levels we've seen we saw during
- 0:15Speaker 1: the global financial crisis. So this is new data out
- 0:18Speaker 1: this morning from Cotality. And David Cunningham is Chief Squirrel
- 0:22Speaker 1: at Squirrel Mortgages. David, good morning. Hey, right, so they're
- 0:26Speaker 1: getting on the ladder. What are they buying?
- 0:29Speaker 2: Well, how'ses?
- 0:31Speaker 1: What are we? Units?
- 0:32Speaker 2: Are?
- 0:33Speaker 1: Are we you know small ones?
- 0:35Speaker 2: No? Well, the thing about the first time buyer market
- 0:38Speaker 2: at the moment is it's really a goldilocks market. They've
- 0:40Speaker 2: got so much choice because there's a lot of stuff
- 0:42Speaker 2: on the market. Fircelely, there's no urgency because houses aren't
- 0:48Speaker 2: selling as fast as they were. You know, go that
- 0:50Speaker 2: three years, you know, post COVID, if you didn't make
- 0:54Speaker 2: an offer, you know when you saw the house, it
- 0:56Speaker 2: was gone. So you've got time. You've got choices on
- 0:59Speaker 2: interest rates come down, keep you savor balances are higher,
- 1:03Speaker 2: and you've got less competition from both investors and and
- 1:08Speaker 2: and movers. Too, so you know Goldilocks time. It's a
- 1:11Speaker 2: bit like the farmers actually, and.
- 1:13Speaker 1: You want to get in there quick, done you before
- 1:15Speaker 1: prices start going back up again. The race I've further down.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Look, coming back back to your earlier question,
- 1:23Speaker 2: what are they buying? Well, they've got choice, so you
- 1:25Speaker 2: know they are buying. You know, it's typical. When I
- 1:27Speaker 2: bought my first house, it was a bit of a
- 1:29Speaker 2: do up and and you know the beauty is that
- 1:32Speaker 2: there's time to time to time to sort of do it.
- 1:34Speaker 2: But sorry, what was the question again? Early in the morning.
- 1:41Speaker 1: Let's say I want to ask you about the o
- 1:42Speaker 1: c R yesterday. Do you think that that? I mean,
- 1:46Speaker 1: what are you going to expecting to see in terms
- 1:49Speaker 1: of deals from banks in the next couple of months.
- 1:52Speaker 2: Yeah, look, we'll see interest rates drift down about That's
- 1:56Speaker 2: what sort of happens. You know, your floating rate moves
- 1:59Speaker 2: worth the o c are literally on the day or
- 2:01Speaker 2: even beforehand or immediately after. But your fixed rates is
- 2:05Speaker 2: where everyone goes to New Zealand, you know, almost everyone's
- 2:08Speaker 2: on a fixed rate and they're much lower than flooding rates.
- 2:10Speaker 2: So there is a being surprise to market a worth
- 2:14Speaker 2: about at least another quarter percent of four coast drops
- 2:18Speaker 2: in the OCR than what was there before. So wholesale
- 2:21Speaker 2: rates fell by about that. Therefore retail rates will fall
- 2:24Speaker 2: fall by about that. So I think we'll get to
- 2:25Speaker 2: about four and a half percent, likely on the one year,
- 2:29Speaker 2: maybe even the two year, over the next over the months,
- 2:31Speaker 2: he head, assuming things played as they are, it's you know,
- 2:34Speaker 2: this challenge that the New Zealand economy is the sort
- 2:37Speaker 2: of pulse of activity and it's sort of coming from
- 2:39Speaker 2: the Eggrey sector just needs to sort of get us
- 2:42Speaker 2: out of this gloomy mood. Eh.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Oh, something's got it, David. He appreciate your time this morning.
- 2:47Speaker 1: Thanks for being on the show. David Cunninghan as Chief
- 2:50Speaker 1: Squirrel at Squirrel Mortgages.
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