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- 0:06You're listening to the West Carol Morning Show. Friday morning, twenty eighth
- 0:11day of July. I'm Wes, thanks for joining me winding down this month
- 0:19of July. Winding it down, that's sart. We'll get it into it,
- 0:22we'll end it, I guess on Monday, final weekend of July.
- 0:26That's where we're at, though, and get ready to kick off August on
- 0:29Tuesday. All right, I want to talk a little bit about racism.
- 0:36Okay, it's so silly that I feel like I should preface everything I'm gonna
- 0:41say with the fact that I think that racism is bad. I think it's
- 0:46horrible. If you've listened to me over the years, you know I make
- 0:50no defense of any form of racism whatsoever, none of it. I think
- 0:57all racism is bad. I think that judging someone based on the color of
- 1:02their skin and not the content of their character or of their heart is a
- 1:08bad thing. I think racism is despicable, horrible, And I think also
- 1:19simultaneously, we have no laws in place that make it illegal to be racist.
- 1:26Just a reality. There's no law that says you can't be racist.
- 1:29It's not illegal. In fact, things that you say that are racist short
- 1:38of saying things that are violent, asking someone to do something violent that might
- 1:45hurt someone of a different race, and in some cases not even that.
- 1:49But those things that aren't begging for violence or doing something negative to someone based
- 1:59on their race is actually protected free speech. You can say things that are
- 2:06racist. You can make racist jokes. Now, can you be punished in
- 2:09our society by your employer? Can you be punished? Have people in your
- 2:16life it look at you differently for saying racist things? Well, certainly,
- 2:21but is it illegal. Is it against the law to say things that are
- 2:28racist? No, it is actually protected free speech. We don't encourage it
- 2:31in our society. We don't want it to thrive. In fact, we'd
- 2:37love for the wounds to heal. We'd love for people in our society who
- 2:42seem to continue to pick at the scabs and refuse to let it heal.
- 2:46We have those people that for some reason want it to continue on. They
- 2:53just need it. They need it to control us, they need it to
- 2:57separate us. They need to remind us constantly that we're different and that we're
- 3:02supposed to act a certain way based on the color of our skin, which
- 3:07itself is racist. It's an interesting situation we're in as a society, isn't
- 3:15it. And I move over to Kentucky, who has put into place a
- 3:23required class about implicit bias in the history of racism and healthcare. In order
- 3:32to renew their nursing licenses in Kentucky, mandatory they have to learn about racism
- 3:43or they could lose getting their license renewed. And this comes the Kentucky Board
- 3:50of Nursing, which is a government agency, was going to discipline the healthcare
- 3:54workers mandatory continuing education course that had to be completely did by July first.
- 4:01That was what they were told. The course included showing photos of KKK members
- 4:09burning across diagrams of covert and overt racism, explaining the differences between those things,
- 4:17and explaining that the different kinds of covert racism like white silence, denying
- 4:27white privilege, claiming reverse racism, and excusing and white explaining racism. And
- 4:35it also went on to explain that these types of racism and healthcare lead to
- 4:43many problems, including to the people who are being racist against them, like
- 4:49high pretension, high blood pressure, low birth weight and prematurity, heart disease,
- 4:58diabetes, increased BMI, anxiety, stress, depression, that all of
- 5:03those things could come about because of various forms of systemic racism that they needed
- 5:12to learn about in these classes. Now, ultimately, I guess, you
- 5:18know, with continuing education, renewals and things to renew your license, I
- 5:23guess that there are many states that do that, and them throwing out mandatory
- 5:29and required in it lays things out for them. So and I guess there
- 5:36were questions about whether or not they could lose their license that they already had.
- 5:42Wasn't just a case of renewal or whatever. But I guess in the
- 5:46end there was a let's see, a Kentucky Board of Nursing issued a statement,
- 5:55no license. They will be denied licensure for failing to meet mandatory CE
- 5:59requirements. Most others to meet CE requirements result in a nondisciplinary settlement because there
- 6:03were claims that there would be some sort of civil sanction. So this is
- 6:10another case of requiring someone to take a class to tell them how racist they
- 6:16might be or how racist another group of people is. And you notice in
- 6:23this they specifically address this notion of white splaining that if you're not familiar with
- 6:30white splaining, it's when white people explain things to non white people so that
- 6:36they can understand the white perspective on things. Okay, you could argue that
- 6:42that's what I'm doing with this whole show. I mean, if that's what
- 6:45you want to narrow it down to, that's not my attempt. My attempt
- 6:47is to say, the teachings of doctor Martin Luther King, and we take
- 6:51a day every single year to honor him and his legacy, and then we
- 6:57throw it away by doing things like require hiring nurses to take classes to teach
- 7:02them about how racist they are or how racist other people might be, and
- 7:08accuse them of things like white splaining racism. So oh, and oh,
- 7:14don't forget the fact that claiming reverse racism is another way that you could be
- 7:18covertly racist. So again, this is denying the fact that non white people
- 7:28could be racist, right, I mean, if you're saying that reverse racism
- 7:34or reverse discrimination isn't really a thing, then you're claiming that only white people
- 7:41can be racist. So what about the racist things that other people say?
- 7:48What about the hateful racist things that other people say, and that other people
- 7:53do. What about when they tell you that only white people can be racist,
- 7:58which in itself I would think would qualify as a very racist thing to
- 8:03say. It's frustrating, It's frustrating. It's frustrating that this is the one
- 8:13of the ways that our government, that our leadership, anybody in charge,
- 8:20And this happens all over the world, but especially when we can talk about
- 8:22it here in the US. I can't fix even the US's problems, but
- 8:26I definitely can't talk about and address the world's problems. But the very fact
- 8:33that this is how they try to control us. This is how they try
- 8:37to separate us. This is how they try to divide us. This is
- 8:41how they want to keep us continually off balance and continually not communicating with one
- 8:48another. Are their discrepancies in healthcare when it comes to races? Sure,
- 8:56the research certainly seems to say that. I can't deny that. Not if
- 9:01the research is there. Now, if the researchers have some sort of reason,
- 9:05some implicit bias where they want to tell us something that maybe isn't accurate.
- 9:09If we have I don't know someone who's in charge of pandemics that or
- 9:15seem to be I don't know, covering up things that they might have done
- 9:18that may have helped contribute to a pandemic happening. Those sorts of things would
- 9:22certainly raise an eyebrow or two cause you to wonder what's going on if something
- 9:28so crazy could possibly happen. But if research says that one group overall doesn't
- 9:39get the quality healthcare that another group gets, I think that could be addressed.
- 9:45I think that's a topic that could be discussed. Telling someone who's white
- 9:50how racist they are, and how if they don't push away all of the
- 9:56ways that they could be covertly racist, doesn't that suggest that that then makes
- 10:03them racist? You're you're a covert racist if you if you do that.
- 10:09So this notion that racism is somehow illegal, it's bad. It's bad when
- 10:16anybody does it, isn't it. But again it comes back to this notion
- 10:20of it not being illegal, it being protected speech, and that some groups
- 10:26are allowed to say and do very overtly racist things, not even the covert
- 10:31racist things. They're able to say out loud racist things, and no one
- 10:37seems to notice, no one seems to mind, no one seems to object
- 10:41to it. I don't talk about other and I have it. I just
- 10:46saw a headline that said, Joe Rogan compares the situation the anger he talks
- 10:54about, addressed the anger about Jason Aldean's song, and he basically said,
- 10:58He's not the first person I've seen do this. But I just saw a
- 11:01headline that said, he calls some of the language in rap music hip hop
- 11:07music much worse. That's the paraphrase of what I read in the headline.
- 11:11And when you think about it, when we address one problem on one side
- 11:18but not a similar problem on the other side, isn't that a form of
- 11:24covert racism. Isn't that something that's not being addressed out loud? And I'm
- 11:28sure Joe Rogan will probably get called racist for saying that. I'm sure that
- 11:31any of the others I saw a headline may have been Jason Whitlock. I
- 11:37forget who the other person was that said something about it. And again,
- 11:41two different people, two different people. It's interesting too, how someone like
- 11:45Jason Whitlock or Tim Scott who's running for president, number of people who get
- 11:50called despicable racist names by people in their own race because they don't subscribe to
- 12:00these things that I'm talking about they don't subscribe to this concept that all white
- 12:05people are racist, and that all white people participate in covert racism, and
- 12:09that just by living your life and not being racist, but not being outspoken
- 12:16about racism means that you're using the covert racism tactic of white silence. See,
- 12:24we've been told that about a number of things. We've been told that
- 12:28being silent is not good enough when it comes to the LGBTQ plus community.
- 12:37It's not enough to be friends with someone that is part of the LGBTQ plus
- 12:43community and not treat them any differently. Treat them just like everyone else in
- 12:46your life. No, no, no, you have to treat them like
- 12:48a little bit more than that. You have to treat them as special.
- 12:52You have to be an ally. You have to wear the T shirt,
- 12:54you have to wear the hat, you have to be very outspoken, you
- 12:58have to march in the rallies. And if you don't, then you yourself
- 13:03are participating in this silence act. Not everybody feels this way, Not everybody
- 13:11in the LGBTQ plus community feels this way. I don't think, but I've
- 13:16been told it by someone. It wasn't enough for me to say, hey,
- 13:22good for you, live your life, you be you. That's not
- 13:26enough. I have to wear the T shirt, I have to wear the
- 13:31hat, I have to have rainbows on all of my clothes. It's like
- 13:35the Seinfeld episode where Kramer does the AIDS walk. You got to wear the
- 13:39ribbon. It's not enough. It's not enough to actively they're so ahead of
- 13:43their time on so many things, on shows like Seinfeld, so ahead of
- 13:46their time. Because that's a perfect analogy for all of this. It's not
- 13:52enough that you yourself aren't racist. It's not enough that you yourself don't hate,
- 13:58don't discriminate against someone who's different than you, whether it's race, whether
- 14:03it's they're part of the LGBTQ plus community, whether it's someone who's going through
- 14:09a transition period in their sexuality. It's not enough that you treat them like
- 14:13everyone else. That's not enough. You got to wear the ribbon. Why
- 14:18don't you wear the ribbon? You got to wear the ribbon? And what
- 14:22happens to Kramer when he doesn't wear the ribbon? If you're not familiar with
- 14:24the Seinfelder, Yeah, Kramer signs up to participate. I understand not everybody
- 14:30watches Seinfeld Kramer, Jerry's neighbor, signs up to participate in an AIDS walk
- 14:35to raise money to support AIDS research. He signs up, he shows up
- 14:43the day of the AIDS walk, and he walks up and he gets his
- 14:46he checks in, he gets his whatever he's got to get to his number
- 14:52or whatever. He puts on his shirt and then they try to hand him
- 14:54an AIDS ribbon and he says, no things, no thanks, You don't
- 14:58wear the ribbon. And he says, no, I do not wear the
- 15:01ribbon, but you have to wear the ribbon, and everybody around starts to
- 15:05get oh, you're not. Why aren't you wearing the ribbon? Everybody has
- 15:07to wear the ribbon. And he tells him, you're a ribbon bully.
- 15:11So he leaves participates in the walk. He's raising money to help the AIDS
- 15:18community. That's what he's doing by participating in the AIDS walk. He's gotten
- 15:22people to sign up donate money. He's doing the walk, and over the
- 15:26course of him trying to do the walk, if people realize, wait a
- 15:30minute, where's your ribbon. You're not wearing your ribbon, and they proceed
- 15:33to beat him up. They rough him up to the point where he can
- 15:39barely finish the walk. Now he does ultimately barely finish the walk, but
- 15:43he almost isn't even able to complete the AIDS Walk, which would be detrimental
- 15:48to the cause since he's trying to raise money by you know, he's got
- 15:52people sponsoring that he's going to finish. If he doesn't finish, technically,
- 15:56they shouldn't even give their money, should they. So that's what we're looking
- 16:03at. We're looking at a situation where you have nurses. Now, are
- 16:07there racist nurses in Kentucky? Probably? Are there white racist nurses in Kentucky?
- 16:14Probably? Are there black racist nurses and could probably Asian, Hispanic Indian.
- 16:21Do we have the possibility that we have racist nurses of all colors origins
- 16:29in Kentucky. Yes, that's a real possibility. It's a real possibility.
- 16:36But do we also have nurses of all colors and creeds in Kentucky that aren't
- 16:41racist? Yes, yes we do. But is it enough? No,
- 16:45they have to take the course, they're told they have to take the course.
- 16:48Now in the conclusion, it looks like maybe they don't have to,
- 16:52but not before people had to get really upset about it. Where's your age
- 16:56ribbon? Why aren't you wearing your age ribbon? Take the course learn about
- 17:00how you're secretly racist, or learn about how they're secretly racist. Learn about
- 17:04how secret racism is all around you and we're all drowning in it. Where's
- 17:10your AIG's ribbon? You gotta wear your ribbon. I've been told by people,
- 17:15someone who's transitioning, someone who said, I'm going to transition, I
- 17:19am going I'm a man, I now am a woman. I've always been
- 17:22a woman. This is how I want to live. Didn't treat this person
- 17:26any differently. Okay, different name, I can call you by a different
- 17:30name. You want me to call you she, I can call you she.
- 17:33I may mess up. I may mess up and call you by the
- 17:37wrong name and the wrong pronoun that I've been used to for years. But
- 17:41hey, it's your life. You do what you gotta do. Did it
- 17:44destroy their family yes? Did it hurt the kids, yes? Did it
- 17:48hurt the spouse? Yet all of those things were a huge impact on this
- 17:52person's life. Okay, but for me, it was you do what you
- 17:59gotta do. You you're ultimately the one who's going to be accountable for all
- 18:03of the things that you've done, all the decisions you've made, the vows
- 18:07that you made to your spouse, and the repercussions of this decision that you
- 18:10made, and how it's going to affect your life. But if this is
- 18:14what you want to do, that's your business. I'm going to treat you
- 18:17like the same person that I treated you before. That wasn't enough. Nope,
- 18:22you can't just be on the sidelines. You can't participate in this silence
- 18:29because if you're not wearing the ribbon, okay, and it was you know,
- 18:34sharing their comments on social media, reposting things and making sure that everybody
- 18:41knew what a solid ally I was. You can't be an ally if you
- 18:45treat them just like everybody else. If you treat them just like you did
- 18:49before, that you don't make any changes at all and how you treat them.
- 18:53This was addressed in an episode of ted Lasso. I love the show
- 18:56ted Lasso, but they fired one of these out in head Lasso, one
- 19:00of these you got to wear the ribbon moments without even appreciating the fact that
- 19:03it was a you got to wear the ribbon moments when a character who we
- 19:08learn is gay gets outed and everybody says okay, and they say it's okay,
- 19:17doesn't change anything. And then there's a moment where Ted has to say,
- 19:19no, no, no, sorry, it's not that we don't care.
- 19:22We do care, and we want you to know that we care this
- 19:26much, and goes on and on. It's not enough just to say it's
- 19:30no big deal. Whatever you want to do, you live your life.
- 19:33It has to be you have to wear the ribbon. You have to wear
- 19:37the ribbon. Everybody has to wear the ribbon. If you don't wear the
- 19:40ribbon, then you're not supporting us at all. It's not enough. It's
- 19:45not enough to treat us by the content of our character instead of the color
- 19:49of our skin. That's not enough. You got to wear the ribbon.
- 19:53If only we could go back and explain that to Martin Luther King Junior and
- 20:00let him understand that he should have added that last part. And you have
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- 23:30dot Com More West Carol Morning Show right after the break Well, it looks
- 23:42like shoppers aren't clicking buy now as much as they were before. A new
- 23:48survey found impulse buying is down in twenty twenty three. More shoppers looking to
- 23:52make smarter purchases. According to the survey, the average respondent made six impulse
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- 24:26that's a testament to the economy. It's a testament to where things are
- 24:33with inflation. But when you think about inflation from twenty twenty versus now,
- 24:41people are spending I mean they're buying less. Two. It's not just that
- 24:45they're spending less, they're buying less. I would have thought this was going
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- 24:52it's not. Skittles is celebrating National Mustard Day on August fifth by releasing a
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- 25:07have Mustard mobile handling out packages in Atlanta on July thirty first, that's some
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- 25:22hit some of the mobile Mustard skittles, it sounds disgusting. Well, how
- 25:30about this, Let's throw up another weird combination. Chocolate deviled eggs. Apparently
- 25:36you make deviled eggs and then you mix in melted chocolate and top the whole
- 25:40thing with chocolate chips. What. I don't know which would be worse that
- 25:45or the mustard skittles. They're going to be serving these, I guess at
- 25:51the Ohio State Fair. The Ohio Poultry Association is serving up the chocolate deviled
- 25:57eggs, and then they also do like and meringue deviled eggs and things like
- 26:00that. I don't know, but it's the Poultry Association. They're looking for
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- 26:56for life. I don't really know how that works exactly, but all right,
- 27:00finally, do you think it's strange that and this came up on Kelly
- 27:07Clarkson's TV show I Guess Kristen Bell and Dak Shepherd the couple, both actors
- 27:15and Dak Shepherds, are recovering alcoholic and apparently they have eight and nine year
- 27:22old kids or daughters, and he drinks non alcoholic beer, and apparently they
- 27:29crack open non alcoholic beer for the kids as well. Bell said on the
- 27:33show that she thinks it sounds crazy to some people, but she doesn't anything
- 27:37wrong with it. She said that because her husband drinks the alcohol free beer,
- 27:44and I guess when the kids were young, they would suck on the
- 27:48rim of the bottle. That doesn't seem overly like a good idea, but
- 27:52okay, and I guess they feel it's a bonding thing between him and the
- 27:59kids because so they're having something that daddy has and that makes it a little
- 28:04bit kind of a cool bonding moment for them. But of course experts say
- 28:10that you introducing your young kids to the taste of beer might not be such
- 28:15a great idea. But anyway, Kristen Bell said, you can judge me
- 28:18if you want. I'm not doing anything wrong. That's your problem. That
- 28:21should be the response to most things. And that's really the reason I even
- 28:23read the story, because I think that should be the answer to criticism from
- 28:29almost everyone who criticizes everyone else. That'll do it for this Friday edition of
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