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- 0:15Good morning, good morning and welcome to Rise and Thrive with
- 0:18Doctor J Nicole, where we are rising in faith and thriving in
- 0:22purpose. Today's episode is going to be
- 0:26with Alicia Bradley. Alicia Bradley is a mental
- 0:30health expert and a premium brand strategist.
- 0:35As a Kingdom brand architect and mental health specialist trained
- 0:39in clinical psychology, her work equips high achieving, faith
- 0:44driven women to refine their authority, elevate their pricing
- 0:47and confidently walk in their divine market dominion.
- 0:52Welcome Alicia. Yes.
- 0:54Thank you so much for having me. It's such an honor to be here.
- 0:56Yes, I'm so glad to have you here, and I'm glad I showed up
- 1:00on your FYP or however you found me.
- 1:02Yes, however that happens. And I am so glad that you're
- 1:07here and that you can help the audience.
- 1:09And I know your primary target is women.
- 1:12I'm pretty sure you might have some things that men could
- 1:15benefit from too, because we do have some men that are in the
- 1:18Rise and Thrive community. So our conversation today is
- 1:22going to be faith centered as well as empowering and we want
- 1:27to inspire our listeners to also reflect and take bold action and
- 1:32align with God's vision for their business and lives.
- 1:35So. Amen.
- 1:37Let's. Start here.
- 1:39Well, Alicia, tell the folks a little bit about yourself before
- 1:41we just dive right in. A little bit about myself.
- 1:45Well, as you mentioned, I used to be in clinical psychology, so
- 1:48I used to be a therapist. I worked in community mental
- 1:51health, domestic violence. I used to be a teacher as well.
- 1:55And then I realized, you know what, I want to be a coach.
- 1:58I enjoy clinical psychology. I enjoyed that realm.
- 2:03But when it came to diagnosing and, and then referring to
- 2:07psychiatrist for medication, I just had a lot of inner
- 2:09conflicts with that, with my faith especially.
- 2:12So I decided to kind of do my own thing and help guide people
- 2:16through healing in my own way. So I did that for a while and I
- 2:22mean, I stumbled my way through that.
- 2:23That was about 15 years ago. So I've pivoted about 15 times.
- 2:28Every year I pivoted more and more.
- 2:31So from there, from a more therapeutic approach to life
- 2:35coaching. Now I have kind of somersaulted
- 2:39my way into being a Kingdom mindset coach.
- 2:42And now I specifically help women of faith who are CE OS,
- 2:46help them #1 refine their brand and #2 create and sell high
- 2:52ticket premium offers. So 10,000 to $100,000 offers.
- 2:56I really help them curate offers that feel like there's an
- 3:00integrity there and then they can sell them confidently.
- 3:03Long story short, that's about me.
- 3:06I love that though, and what I know about God is no season is
- 3:10wasted. So even though people might have
- 3:12thought you were hopping around, you were getting different
- 3:15skills and all the things that you need to be able to like read
- 3:18people and to help them to be able to do these things and to
- 3:20coach so. So true, so true.
- 3:24That's how he works. I've also done my share of
- 3:26pivots because I worked in higher Ed first before becoming
- 3:29a therapist and moving into purpose coaching, right?
- 3:34So I could see how we could collaborate a lot in the future
- 3:37as well. And also having the mental
- 3:39health background. OK, so yes, you say you refer to
- 3:44heaven as luxury, right? Can you unpack what that means
- 3:48and how it shapes your work? Yes, I know a lot of people ask
- 3:52that because luxury in the traditional worldly sense is
- 3:57completely different than what I'm trying to redefine as this
- 4:01heavenly luxury that we can all embody in our brands no matter
- 4:05what we do. And what I mean by heaven is
- 4:08luxury is heaven likes nothing. There's no scarcity, there's no
- 4:12need for anything. Like it's perfection.
- 4:16It's clear, right? Like there's, there's such
- 4:19clarity in truth and in light in heaven and it's refined.
- 4:26And ultimately, again, there's nothing that is lacking at all.
- 4:30And so also there's beauty and there's order.
- 4:34So I love that piece of it where spiritually that's how it feels,
- 4:38but I also love how the Bible talks about heaven, like in a
- 4:43tangible sense, like it talks about the materials, at least
- 4:46the new heavens and the new earth, right?
- 4:47In the new world, it talks about what heaven on earth actually
- 4:51materially looks like. And the streets are gold and
- 4:54there's all types of jewels and gems and stones all over the
- 4:58place. It's clear glass everywhere.
- 5:01I mean, it's, let me pull it up, Revelation.
- 5:03It's Revelation 2118 to 20. Revelation 2118 to 21, it says
- 5:09the wall was built of Jasper while the city was pure gold,
- 5:13like clear glass. The 12 gates were 12 pearls and
- 5:16the street of the city was pure gold, like transparent glass.
- 5:21And it just, it dawned on me and I'm like, heaven is lavish.
- 5:26How long like God likes lavishness, right?
- 5:29Yeah, you know what I would like to do?
- 5:32Put that verse in ChatGPT and tell it to make a image, to see
- 5:37a visual of that 'cause I think that does something when we can
- 5:40hear it, right? But like my brain, I say I hear
- 5:44in color 'cause it, it creates pictures, but just see, see what
- 5:48that looks like, right? I think that can bring something
- 5:51completely different to help people understand that, right?
- 5:54Like, and if we're in alignment with God, it's OK 'cause you
- 5:59know, I think lavish or luxury and like Christianity, people
- 6:04think can't coexist. Yes, absolutely.
- 6:10I believe they can. I believe they can.
- 6:12And it's really and truly is not about that money is evil because
- 6:16they'll try to use the scripture, right, that says that
- 6:19money is the root of all evil, that statement, when really, no,
- 6:22it's what you're willing to do to get it.
- 6:24It's about the character I positions people to be good
- 6:29stewards, right? Like we there there is talk
- 6:33about money in the Bible, the Proverbs 31 woman and all the
- 6:36things she had and then also the other verses.
- 6:39And I can't remember off top of my head where it is where it
- 6:42talks about us having like 7 to 8 income streams, right, and how
- 6:47we basically need to diversify our monies.
- 6:49So it's like there is direction about money in the Bible, but
- 6:52people pick on pick out the ones and usually how they want to.
- 6:58Yes, yes they do, and that's religion.
- 7:01I mean religious people for since I don't know how far back
- 7:06totally distort what the Bible says about not only heaven but
- 7:11luxury money, like you said, financial stewardship.
- 7:15And I'm ahead of you because I've absolutely put in these
- 7:18verses about heaven into ChatGPT, Bing image creator
- 7:22specifically, and it created the most beautiful images.
- 7:26I've made YouTube videos about them.
- 7:29And. So I would love to share that
- 7:30with you because yes, it's like you said, I need to see it.
- 7:33It's one thing to hear it. I want to see what could this
- 7:36actually look like. And it's, it's the most like,
- 7:39it's like going to Dubai with all the gold everywhere but on
- 7:4310,000. Listen, and I love Dubai.
- 7:46And then, you know, the way that our brains work, when you see
- 7:50the visual, it really can truly program you.
- 7:53And then you see that that does something on the inside of you
- 7:56to say, I'm getting there. I'm going to heaven, I'm going
- 7:59to the streets of gold, and I'm going to see the pearly gates of
- 8:02things, right? And then every piper of your
- 8:05being goes along with it. It's like it's going to guide
- 8:08all of your actions. Yeah, absolutely.
- 8:12Yeah. And even though that does talk
- 8:14about the end times and that's not something that's happening
- 8:16in this current moment, it just gives us an idea of how God
- 8:20thinks about what his children can access.
- 8:25So I believe it's, it's not time limited.
- 8:28We can access something kind of close to that now.
- 8:32And we can create businesses that align with this experience
- 8:36of luxury, maybe not exactly like that in Revelation, but
- 8:39again, the experience of clarity, of refinement, of
- 8:44purity, just all the things that God represents.
- 8:48Our inheritance. Yes, yes.
- 8:52Yeah. So what does divine market
- 8:55dominion look like for women CE OS today?
- 8:59Yes. So that divine market dominion
- 9:03simply means when you're walking in authority with Christ, right?
- 9:08And you know, God has appointed you, assigned you, anointed you
- 9:12to be in this very specific industry at this time.
- 9:16It just means walking in that authority, in Christ, not in our
- 9:20own authority, but knowing that again, we've inherited, like you
- 9:23said, we are inheritors and we're Co heirs to Christ.
- 9:27And so if God gives us a business idea and gives us a
- 9:29business plan, he doesn't give it to us so that we can just be
- 9:33second best, 50th best. He doesn't give it to us so we
- 9:35can be subpar. He gives it to us in order to
- 9:40actually believe, in order to take dominion, subdue the earth
- 9:44and be fruitful and multiply through that business, which was
- 9:48his first. We think about it, that was his
- 9:50first commandment to the first humans ever in Genesis 126, I
- 9:54think says subdue the earth, take dominion, multiply, period.
- 10:00Yeah. So if he gives us a business
- 10:02idea, we need to do the same thing.
- 10:03And there there's a way we can do it.
- 10:05We can have silent dominion in the marketplace.
- 10:07It doesn't necessarily mean we have to go viral and be all out
- 10:11there and everybody's face. There are different ways.
- 10:14I believe that God is calling his children to to have dominion
- 10:18and their very specific sphere that they're working in, in all
- 10:22different types of unique ways. Yeah, that's so, so good.
- 10:27Like I'm just like, yes, I'm here for all of it because I
- 10:31will do that. This podcast where you are right
- 10:35now is one of those things, the mental, the, the, the business
- 10:40God gave me out of which I, I served clients do therapy, we're
- 10:44growing, we're going to expand into doing retreats and doing
- 10:48mission work as well. Like God gave me all of that and
- 10:54like fast, fast. And even after the podcast came
- 10:59together from the idea in February to recording in March,
- 11:05releasing in April, like. Wait, do you just started this
- 11:09in February? Uh huh.
- 11:10See that's. What I'm talking about?
- 11:13You literally are. In Dominion.
- 11:15Yes. And that's why I'm sharing it,
- 11:17because that's how he moves. Like my mom is like, do you
- 11:22sleep? And I'm like, yeah, like I'm
- 11:24doing a lot of stuff, but it's like when you're operating in
- 11:28purpose. And I was telling my brother one
- 11:31day I was like, it's just being a Trinity over here creating.
- 11:33Like, I cannot explain how all the things are coming out of me
- 11:39at the rate at which they're coming out of me.
- 11:41As if I don't have like enough. Like with the practice, right?
- 11:45Like with with being a business owner, entrepreneur, God just
- 11:48keeps giving me stuff and I do it.
- 11:50But like he also has had me in a season where I'm inside like I
- 11:54did, I did my toe out and I'll go play and, you know, show up
- 11:57at this event or that. But like I'm at home, I'm at
- 12:01church. He just pouring so much out of
- 12:03me. He's really shifted me from
- 12:05being a consumer to being a creator.
- 12:09And I've always been a creative person.
- 12:11And honestly, we're all created to be creatives in some sort of
- 12:15way because we're made in God's image.
- 12:17And in the beginning, God did what he created, right?
- 12:20So if we're listening to it, that first verse is a clue.
- 12:25We all have dominion over something.
- 12:27And I also really love how you are opening up that viewpoint of
- 12:34be fruitful and multiply because a lot of people do take that
- 12:37literal to mean procreation. And God is a creative God and so
- 12:43are we. And he's given us all something.
- 12:45And we know this from the story of talents, right?
- 12:48Like in the Bible, like we're all supposed to do something.
- 12:51We're all put here to create, to do and so and to try to navigate
- 12:56the earth, the systems and all the things that can really stunt
- 13:00our purpose. And I had a thought today.
- 13:02I was like, tensions are great, but sometimes they stunt purpose
- 13:05because we can be more committed to a job, the retirement
- 13:10package, than purpose. And so true.
- 13:14We need, we need, we need the means to help get people like
- 13:18into purpose so that they can live freely, like and really be
- 13:23free, indeed, and not tied to these systems so that God is
- 13:27their boss and not me. Yeah.
- 13:31So good. So good.
- 13:33And I love your point about that be fruitful and multiply and how
- 13:36it's not literal. I mean, yeah, make babies.
- 13:38But it's like when you were explaining how you just have
- 13:40this supernatural sense of energy and how you just have
- 13:44this creative creativity. You just continually just
- 13:47pouring out, pouring out more creative ideas, more stuff that
- 13:51to me looks like he, he gives, he, he, Yeah.
- 13:55He helps us be fruitful and multiply at a speed that is
- 13:58superhuman. It really feels like, how am I
- 14:02doing this? And then getting a good sleep
- 14:04and then skin is still clear and like, listen, like I'm doing OK.
- 14:10I'm not falling apart. This is why I'm very much on my
- 14:14do it, God do it, God do it, God do it, let him do it right, Like
- 14:19I am allowing God to do it. And I asked him, I said, God
- 14:23allow my life to be the proof that you are real.
- 14:29So I'll let him do all the things.
- 14:33That's so good. Thing, yes.
- 14:35OK, so Speaking of like dominion, there may be some
- 14:39women who need help shifting out of shrinking and shifting into
- 14:44dominion. So what are some of those signs
- 14:46of a woman who was shrinking in her identity to fit in rather
- 14:50than walking fully in her authority?
- 14:53Yes, there's. I used to be this woman.
- 14:57Oh yeah, me too. Yeah, yeah.
- 15:00Definitely. So I'll speak in the context of
- 15:03how I actually help women because I'm very niche down at
- 15:06this point and I help them price with purpose and I call it
- 15:10prophetic pricing. So one of the major signs in
- 15:13that realm is that they're under charging.
- 15:16They're under charging for their services.
- 15:18And it's one thing to have offers that are low ticket.
- 15:22I, we call them low ticket in this this coaching realm and
- 15:26that's OK. But if everything that you offer
- 15:29is low ticket and low ticket can be under, we'll say $1000.
- 15:34If everything that you have that you offer is just in that
- 15:38bracket, then that's a sign that you haven't yet understood that
- 15:42there's more value I can bring that I can sell for premium.
- 15:47I have a $10,000 solution for somebody.
- 15:50I have a $50,000 solution. I have $100,000 solution that I
- 15:54could offer somebody, not because it's my solution, it's
- 15:59God's solution and I'm the vessel that he's moving through
- 16:02to then bring the solution to people.
- 16:05So the biggest set back I see in that area is that women get in
- 16:10the way and they think they're pricing according to their
- 16:12value, according to their credentials, according to what
- 16:15they think they can do and what they can offer versus pricing
- 16:20according to the big solution that God gave them that they've
- 16:26now packaged in a product or service, right?
- 16:29So, and we can't put a price on God, but if we can try to
- 16:32calculate what type of God breathes breakthrough or
- 16:36transformation can come through this product or service, that's
- 16:40how we price that. So that's the major setbacks.
- 16:44Another another common denominator that I see is women
- 16:47just forget who they are in Christ or they were never told
- 16:50maybe no. One that identity crisis is
- 16:54real. It's so real.
- 16:56It's so real, and it's so the devil is so nasty, number one,
- 16:59But he's not smarter than any of us with the Holy Spirit.
- 17:02But he's nasty because he will try to.
- 17:08He blames us, he accuses us. And so he will make us feel like
- 17:13we can't grow, we can't expand, we can't elevate because of what
- 17:17we've done, right? So guilt, shame that women are
- 17:20harboring and he'll give us spiritual amnesia.
- 17:24I mean, he will literally try to invoke an amnesia in our spirit.
- 17:31Come on, that makes us forget the lineage that we're a part
- 17:35of, the royal lineage that we're a part of.
- 17:38We are in, we're heirs. We have an inheritance that we
- 17:41get to take by force. But again, that's that's the
- 17:46biggest thing I the set back I see is women just either they
- 17:48never knew or maybe they knew one day and then all of a sudden
- 17:52they forgot. And that's the devil at work.
- 17:54It really is. So do you ever do work in
- 17:57helping them with the identity? I know you're working with them
- 18:00on the price part, but some people need that poor again.
- 18:05Yeah, no. So I lead with the price because
- 18:08that's what women, that's what's on women's minds.
- 18:10Everything we do is identity. It really has nothing to do with
- 18:14the price. It's I'm just, I've given the
- 18:15secret out. But obviously we we definitely
- 18:18do the logistical curation of an offer and I help them sell it.
- 18:22So I help them understand sales psychology.
- 18:24I help them understand spirit to spirit sales.
- 18:27I like to call it versus manipulative tactics.
- 18:30Tactics. What'd you say?
- 18:32I say because Spirit's tough. Yeah, definitely so.
- 18:39But it's all identity work. Every single piece of the things
- 18:41that I do with women is all based on who are you and who did
- 18:45you forget you are. And let's come into agreement
- 18:49with who God said you are. Come on.
- 18:50And then let's price from that place.
- 18:53Yeah, Come on, Alicia. I'm into agreement with who God
- 18:57says you are. Yeah, that's yes.
- 19:02OK, that was good. Yeah, that's good.
- 19:07That's good. And it's just sinking in on so
- 19:10many levels, right. And like, yeah, I'm here
- 19:13interviewing you, but my brain is like soaking it up all at the
- 19:17same time. So like, you're seeing it like,
- 19:19sinking. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 19:22this is good. I'm like, Alicia, we might need
- 19:24to have a different locale. Little, little, let's talk,
- 19:26Let's talk. See, girl, hey, so Speaking of
- 19:31that, let's transition a little bit into how you can help them
- 19:35raise their prices but still maintain their peace, Right?
- 19:39But again, I get what you're saying to identity is attached
- 19:42to that. So you teach them to do this
- 19:46with peace. What mindset shifts are required
- 19:50to really embody that? So again, the majority of it is
- 19:54identity work. So within that identity, certain
- 19:59mindset shifts are. I'm a Christian, so I should
- 20:03give everything away for free. Mindset shift.
- 20:06That's an identity thing, right? It's like like obviously we
- 20:10serve. Everything is based from service
- 20:13and service alone. So it's all foundationally based
- 20:16there. But there are different types of
- 20:18service. There's different levels of
- 20:20service and there's different levels of access that people
- 20:24should have to you. And so God never told us to
- 20:27overextend ourselves. He never told us to bend over
- 20:30backwards and be walked over by people without being compensated
- 20:36for it. It's a scripture in there.
- 20:37A worker should be paid wages for their work.
- 20:41And if you don't work, you don't eat?
- 20:44Essentially, yeah. Yeah, right.
- 20:47So we get to be compensated. So that's one of the that's a
- 20:50mindset shift is you don't have to give everything away for
- 20:53free. It's not evil to ask for money.
- 20:57It's actually stewardship and it's actually obedience.
- 21:02So 1 of this, the mindset shifts, is redefining what
- 21:06obedience looks like, again, based on God's word.
- 21:09Because if God has called us and assigned us to something and
- 21:14he's given us a business strategy for that, then we need
- 21:18to stay obedient to those instructions, even if it feels
- 21:21uncomfortable. So God would never, I don't
- 21:24believe God would ever send somebody out to work and create
- 21:29a business and then have no strategy for them to be
- 21:32compensated and to take care of their children, their family,
- 21:35their home, and then be generous sores and give.
- 21:39I mean, he also has called us to be generous.
- 21:42So how can we outpour and give to people that need it if we
- 21:46can't even take care of our homes, right.
- 21:49So, yeah. So it's, I think, OK, to sum it
- 21:52up, the mindset shifts is all about what it looks like to be a
- 21:55woman of faith-based off what the church said or based off of
- 21:58what religion said. And what does it really look
- 22:00like to be a woman of faith-based off of what God
- 22:03said? The word says yeah.
- 22:05Yeah, yeah. And, and I'm not a Bible
- 22:08connoisseur. Like I'm not a Bible scholar at
- 22:09all. I'm learning.
- 22:11Neither am I, Right. I'm working on it.
- 22:13I'm going through Bible in a year.
- 22:15This year for real for the first time.
- 22:18Yeah. And I'm doing it.
- 22:19I listen because I, I, I know I can get through things faster
- 22:22when I listen. So I'm doing it the first time
- 22:25in a year. And there's some things that
- 22:26just aren't hitting. Like I'll be sitting in church
- 22:29and I'm like, I already went through that book.
- 22:31I don't remember the scripture hitting like this, you know,
- 22:33when I, when I was listening to it, you know what I mean?
- 22:36So, but different times. But that's why they say there is
- 22:40nothing under the sun, that the Bible is not able to give you
- 22:44guidance on everything. It's in there.
- 22:47All you have to do is just go and look and figure out the
- 22:50application. But you also have to be in that
- 22:52space where you've really opened your spirit up to God.
- 22:55Those who have ears, let them hear, you know what I mean?
- 22:58So you have to really be in that space spiritually to to be able
- 23:05to do that. And that mindset shift is huge.
- 23:08And even as you're saying God's not going to give you this
- 23:10business, this business plan and not take care of you.
- 23:14We saw that model with with what happened with Jesus and the
- 23:17apostles. Their ministry was funded.
- 23:20Think about that. They left jobs and went with
- 23:23Jesus. They never went hungry.
- 23:25They fed the 5000 with, you know, loaf, a couple loafs and a
- 23:30few fish, right? Like so God provides and it
- 23:34doesn't make sense. And I experienced a version of
- 23:37that where I'm just like, where is this even coming from?
- 23:40Where it's just like, this should have been gone or I
- 23:43remember one of the first times I was really truly faithful with
- 23:47my tithing. And it's like somehow I started
- 23:51tithing. It's the same amount of money.
- 23:54But before I was tithing, I was struggling.
- 23:57And then out of nowhere I was able to do everything I wanted
- 24:01to do like, and it's like, it does not make sense.
- 24:05Oh. That's so good.
- 24:07It does not make sense. And I've lived that.
- 24:10And so I'm like, I'm with you, God and that generosity.
- 24:15And it's not always money. So if there are people that are
- 24:18listening or watching this right now, it's your talents, it's
- 24:21your gifts, it's your skills, like because those are the
- 24:24things that can bring the money, right?
- 24:26And sometimes it can. I know what I said earlier about
- 24:29pension and retirement, right? And so if there's someone's
- 24:34listening, that's just like, oh, she's crazy.
- 24:36I'm not quitting my job. I'm not telling anybody to quit
- 24:38their job. What I'm saying is that we have
- 24:41to remember that the job is just a resource to fund your purpose.
- 24:48And a lot of times they think that has become their purpose
- 24:51because again, it's an identity thing.
- 24:54So now what they do has become their identity rather than what
- 24:58God has said about them. It's so true.
- 25:01It's so true. And I work with I've worked with
- 25:04multiple women who have full time jobs and that's another
- 25:07mindset shift. What you said exactly is
- 25:11shifting from this job is my purpose, knowing darn well is
- 25:14not to Oh my gosh, this is my purpose.
- 25:17So it's it shifts everything and strategy changes and motivation
- 25:23changes. It's it's so beautiful to see
- 25:25the transition from full time job to then leaving that job and
- 25:29fully being in your purpose while being funded
- 25:33appropriately. Yep.
- 25:35It's such a beautiful thing. And it requires surrender.
- 25:38And I think that's really a part that and depending on people's
- 25:42lived experiences, right, like it takes a lot to undo that
- 25:46scarcity mindset or whatever attachment it is with Job and
- 25:50the identity that comes from that.
- 25:52And you know, families being proud.
- 25:54Oh, that's my daughter, that's the lawyer, but then she don't
- 25:57practice no more, right? Like, and then that can become a
- 25:59whole thing like so there's somebody I know that's listening
- 26:05that this is resonating for. And it's just like we just want
- 26:08to give you that freedom and to really tap into what God truly
- 26:13created you to do and who he truly created you to be so.
- 26:18Amen to that. Yeah, how can women?
- 26:21So how can whoever's listening, right?
- 26:23But like, but how can they really overcome the guilt or
- 26:27fear of being too expensive? So it boils down to this.
- 26:31This was the shift that really helped me understand OK and get
- 26:35out of that. Sounds like you bet I would put.
- 26:37Us on. Some serious game right now.
- 26:41I even, I just, I already said it, but we're going to dive even
- 26:44deeper into it. The thing that we're selling.
- 26:50So like you said, it could be a talent, a skill, it could be
- 26:52something you didn't even know you could monetize.
- 26:56Whatever it is, it's not yours. It's not yours to begin with.
- 27:00It's a God's right. Yeah.
- 27:04So if you, because we will all, we will never feel good enough
- 27:07because we're not deserving. Like we're not.
- 27:11I mean like we are, but we're not, you know what I mean?
- 27:15And so if we were to try to put a value, put a price on
- 27:20something that we've produced, it will never feel right.
- 27:25But if we can understand that it was God that did this through
- 27:29me, it's not even me. It's not personal.
- 27:32It's not I'm not putting value on myself.
- 27:34I'm not pricing myself. I'm not pricing my knowledge.
- 27:37Because we're never going to feel smart enough.
- 27:39We're never going to feel experienced enough.
- 27:41We're just not because we're human.
- 27:43We're constantly evolving, learning, growing, and failing
- 27:47all at the same time. So we're never going to feel
- 27:50good enough. So my anchor isn't, how great do
- 27:53I feel today to charge $10,000, right?
- 27:56My anchor is what level breakthrough can God do through
- 28:01me through this service or product?
- 28:04That's that's what we're pricing.
- 28:05We're pricing the breakthrough that can happen as the Holy
- 28:09Spirit moves through that product or service that he
- 28:12gifted you with. And so that's that's how we can
- 28:15because we get it. We get out of our own way by
- 28:19taking ourselves out of the picture.
- 28:21We're just the vessel, we're just the instrument, but we're
- 28:24not the thing. Does that make sense?
- 28:27Like, we're not it. So yeah, that really helped me
- 28:31get out of the way. OK, OK, that's good.
- 28:35That's a that's a major, major shift.
- 28:41And it seems simple, but I'm like that's that's deep.
- 28:44That has layers. Because as you were talking, I
- 28:45was like, how long do you work with people to get these mindset
- 28:49shifts to click? This is to be connected to some
- 28:54really, really deep thing. Oof.
- 28:58But the power of the Holy Spirit, again, it's not even me
- 29:02helping them. It's like when I work, I try to
- 29:04leave myself out of it and I pray before every session and I
- 29:09say, Holy Spirit, just work through me, talk for me.
- 29:11I'm going to try as much as possible to let go of my biases,
- 29:15my my opinions and my words. Just do it, please.
- 29:19Because I know if he does it, it can happen instantaneously.
- 29:23That program that was embedded in that person's subconscious
- 29:27mind into their soul for since they were conceived in their
- 29:30mama's womb can be released and removed instantaneously.
- 29:36And so these conversations I've noticed over time as a coach,
- 29:40when, when I'm listening for the root of the issue that created
- 29:45that mindset in the mindset in the 1st place, we just pull it
- 29:49out from the root. And you'd be surprised at how
- 29:52quickly women can shift. It's, it's mind boggling, truly,
- 29:57how quickly the Holy Spirit can shift somebody out of a lie.
- 30:01And that's what the Bible says. The darkness cannot endure the
- 30:04light. So the darkness cannot continue
- 30:07to remain there. And the darkness are the lies,
- 30:11right? The lies in our belief system
- 30:13that's telling us what we can't do, what we shouldn't do, what's
- 30:16not right. If we can shine a light at the
- 30:19root of that lie, it's drowned out and then boom, it's a pivot.
- 30:24It's a pivot in mindset, it's a pivot in identity, and it's a
- 30:27pivot in authority in how they carry themselves in their
- 30:30business. That's good, and it really does
- 30:34require people to be spiritually attuned to do this.
- 30:40It really does. It does it like you said, I
- 30:44think the the word is surrender. You just have to, you have to be
- 30:48open to surrender. And that's a lot of the work
- 30:51that I do is to help women. And, you know, everybody's in a
- 30:54different place. But all the women that do hire
- 30:58me, they hit a point where they, I, I have to have them make an
- 31:03agreement. I said even write out a
- 31:04contract. Write out a contract with God if
- 31:06you need to and agree with him and tell him, yeah, like make
- 31:10and sign it. And it's a legally binding
- 31:13contract that you will surrender to him.
- 31:16And every day you'll, you'll try to surrender more and more.
- 31:18And so I think it's it's, they don't even need to be fully
- 31:21spiritually attuned or equipped to handle it.
- 31:25I feel like that's why God has hired me as the vessel who help
- 31:29help attune them or guide them to attunement.
- 31:32But it's more I just need them to be willing.
- 31:34Yeah, I was going to say they need a open spirit.
- 31:37And if you have an open spirit and if you're thirsty and you're
- 31:40hungry, you will be filled. Right?
- 31:42So that that definitely aligns with that.
- 31:45OK, So what advice would you give to that CEO?
- 31:49That's her. I can't afford you.
- 31:52And then they're feeling like that pressure to like lower
- 31:55their price, lower their standards.
- 31:56That goes against what God has told them, showed them,
- 31:59downloaded to them, gave them in a dream, whatever.
- 32:02You know, However, Guy sent the message because, you know, he
- 32:04talks to us all in how we need to see it here at feel it and so
- 32:08on. Yeah, yeah, it comes up a lot.
- 32:11It comes up a lot because my prices are high and they want a
- 32:14higher B so they can have higher prices.
- 32:16So I mean, it's a whole process and the sales psychology is a
- 32:19whole thing as well. And so this is a part of that
- 32:21sales psychology process. It's called an objection, right?
- 32:24If they have an objection like, oh, can't afford you, sorry,
- 32:27bye. And because I've built a
- 32:29rapport, I've tried, I try to build enough rapport with them
- 32:32to where they're open enough to answer some of my questions.
- 32:35Then I go into a series of questions about where is that no
- 32:38coming from? Where is that I don't have
- 32:40enough actually coming from? So we start looking for the
- 32:43route. We're going to pick up that
- 32:45route. Because if there's any route of
- 32:47a lie of scarcity or lack, God didn't give it to you.
- 32:51So let's look at it, right? And more times than not, women
- 32:55shift into you know what? I will invest in you because or
- 33:00not even you again, I'll invest in your work.
- 33:03So yeah, it's usually a lie of lack scarcity.
- 33:06I don't have enough or I can't. I can't show up for this right
- 33:10now. I don't have the time and you
- 33:12made the most amazing point. I have to then redirect them to
- 33:16so we spot the lie 1st and then we redirect them to but what a
- 33:20guy show you is for you now like let's connect back with that
- 33:25because you got amnesia. Demons are real and they will
- 33:29make you forget the call because there's a money, there's a money
- 33:34thing there. So we're going to clear out that
- 33:37love for money. I mean, that's honestly, if you
- 33:39really look at it, it's a love for money.
- 33:42It may not be a love for greed, but if we fall into we have such
- 33:46a close connection with money that it makes us anxious when we
- 33:49think about spending it. That's that's an attachment
- 33:53that's a little too tight. God doesn't want us to have any.
- 33:56Yeah, the. Lips.
- 33:59Perkins. Yes, because people always think
- 34:02about having too much versus the people who don't want to turn it
- 34:07loose. But there's scripture about
- 34:08that. And it's not it's not popping up
- 34:10in his brain, but there's scripture about, oh, shoot, I
- 34:15just had a flash of it where basically he will make it.
- 34:18So it's almost like, is it sand in your hand or?
- 34:24Oh yes. Yeah, basically you'll never be
- 34:28able to keep it. I can't remember where that
- 34:30scripture is, but it's a really good scripture.
- 34:32OK, There's a really good scripture that speaks to that.
- 34:37We are commanded to be generous, and people always talk about
- 34:40greed in the worst way or just like money in the worst way when
- 34:43people have lots of it. But they don't talk about the
- 34:46people who are just like super duper stingy.
- 34:48And it goes against generosity. Proverbs 11/24 One person gives
- 34:53freely, yet gains even more. Another person with holds unduly
- 34:57and they come to poverty. Right.
- 34:59So that that's one. I mean, there's so many, but I
- 35:01can't. I know exactly what you're
- 35:03talking about. Yeah, and I tried to type and it
- 35:06was all misspelled. So it's probably like, what did
- 35:08you just ask me? Yes, yes, but.
- 35:13Yes and and it there's another there's a love for money as if
- 35:19money is an idol too, right, Because if we look at money as
- 35:23if it's our lifeline, then we're going against the scripture that
- 35:27tells us don't worry about you're going to eat, what you're
- 35:29going to wear, what you know where you're going to live.
- 35:31Like, don't worry, I got you, I got you.
- 35:34And so, so that comes up. I don't, I don't try to throw
- 35:37scripture at people when they're having these money blocks.
- 35:40I really do try to help them navigate where is it coming
- 35:43from. And more times than not, they
- 35:46have access to it. So then I help women understand
- 35:50if you don't have the liquid assets in your bank account,
- 35:52because most people don't, there's creative financing
- 35:55solutions that you can find to finance this next step.
- 36:00And then it comes up, well, I don't want to take out a loan
- 36:03because debt. God doesn't want me in debt.
- 36:05I'm, I'm the lender and not the borrower.
- 36:08And I get that too. But I also believe that God has
- 36:11to build us into being a lender, like most lenders leveraged
- 36:15other people's money as a stepping stone to then be able
- 36:19to generate the revenue and get the cash inject so that they can
- 36:24eventually be a generous lender. So those are tangents.
- 36:27But that's what comes up. And most times it works.
- 36:30Yeah. And sometimes if I can sense
- 36:32that a woman truly like her credit is horrible because I've
- 36:37been her like credit, she won't get approved for anything or she
- 36:41just really, it would harm her. I'm not in the business of
- 36:44harming anybody financially. So if we really find out that,
- 36:47yeah, this is beyond a mindset thing, this is more like you
- 36:51really cannot. And sometimes God calls me to
- 36:54work with women like that, and sometimes to generously give
- 36:59services at no cost. It just depends on what the Holy
- 37:02Spirit's leading me to do. Absolutely.
- 37:04So, you know, we jumped right in and with you saying this,
- 37:08you're, you know, there's little sprinkles about you.
- 37:11How did you come to me in this position to be be to be used at
- 37:17the vessel in this way? Yeah, yeah, that's OK.
- 37:21So it's such a long story, but I'm going to try to sum it up
- 37:26real. Fast.
- 37:29Because I always loved Jesus. I was always a Christian, but I
- 37:34wasn't like a born again Christian, right?
- 37:36Like I wasn't fully saved in the way that I got saved.
- 37:42So it was Easter 2022 and during this time I had pivoted one of
- 37:48my 10,000 different pivots in my business as a coach.
- 37:52I was a manifestation coach and I had leaned into some new age
- 37:57stuff that I didn't even know was new age.
- 37:59Like I did not know this was against God's order and what He
- 38:04needed me to do. So I was getting a little too
- 38:07free with this, having way too much fun.
- 38:09And I was making, I was making good money, but God needed to
- 38:12wake me up. He needed to wake me up.
- 38:14And so it was Easter 2022. My son got baptized.
- 38:17I have two sons, by the way. They're 11 and 13.
- 38:20Yeah. My youngest got baptized at my
- 38:22mom's church. When we got back, I was in the
- 38:27shower praying because I was so elated.
- 38:29Like, he just changed. He he even said after his
- 38:33baptism, he was like, mom, I see colors differently.
- 38:36Like he said that it's like I see.
- 38:39Color. I said it's new, like right, He
- 38:43says we are new. Oh, He will pour a new spirit
- 38:45into you. A whole new creation that's I
- 38:48saw it. It was so stark and I'm like,
- 38:52wow. And so I sometimes get in the
- 38:54shower and I just pray and I'll pray in tongues and I'll just
- 38:56praise and pray and praise and pray during this shower
- 39:00experience, I kid you not, Jesus came like Jesus came and visited
- 39:04me tangibly. He popped out of my marble tile
- 39:10on my in my shower while I was sitting there, and he took me
- 39:13through a whole thing. I wrote a book about it and
- 39:15everything because it was crazy. He took me through a whole
- 39:20thing. So to sum up what he took me
- 39:22through, he just showed me. He showed me #1 You're veering
- 39:25off a little bit. I need you to come back #2 This
- 39:30is why I need you to help #3 do it now.
- 39:36It wasn't like you have a little bit of time.
- 39:40It wasn't that. It was like, do it now.
- 39:42Yeah. And then he said, write a book
- 39:44about it. And so I did all of those
- 39:46things. I did all those things.
- 39:49But that, that encounter with Jesus was so it was just so
- 39:52supernatural. It was like 10 years had went
- 39:54by. And he took me through this
- 39:55journey of his experience, his resurrection experience and his
- 40:00crucifixion. So he took me.
- 40:03Through his life, his death and his rebirth.
- 40:07But during this time he was man. It was like he was traveling me
- 40:12around the world and showing me all of the places where people
- 40:16are suffering and in pain. And I just felt gut wrenching
- 40:19sadness. I mean, the grief that I felt, I
- 40:23had never felt anything like that before.
- 40:25And he would just pop, pop me in somebody's room and show them me
- 40:28what was going on. Then he popped me.
- 40:30I remember I was in somebody's prison cell.
- 40:32And I don't want to cry because it was it was it still?
- 40:34It was like, how many years ago was this?
- 40:36Three years? It was so horrible.
- 40:38This man was in his prison cell and he was witnessing his friend
- 40:42getting stabbed and dying and he couldn't do anything about it.
- 40:46And the guards didn't care. It looked like a setup.
- 40:48So it was like the guy was just sitting there with pain and
- 40:51anger and he could do nothing. And I just saw just death and
- 40:55destruction and sadness, children being hurt.
- 40:57I saw troves of children being trafficked.
- 41:00So Long story short, I was like wow, like this is crazy.
- 41:05And then after that I wanted to end it.
- 41:07I thought it was demonic. I was like this, this feels
- 41:10demonic because this don't feel like Jesus.
- 41:11Jesus is happier than this. I don't like this.
- 41:14So I tried to get up. I couldn't get up out of the
- 41:16shower. And so I was like forced to sit
- 41:19down. And ultimately after there was
- 41:22like this silence, I saw Jesus die in front of me.
- 41:25And then there was even more grief.
- 41:27And then I felt this life surging through my veins as if I
- 41:31was levitating. But I wasn't levitating.
- 41:32That didn't happen. But it was his rebirth.
- 41:35He just took me through it. He took me through all of these
- 41:38things and I'm still trying to grapple all of the different
- 41:41parts of it, but ultimately he showed me he's real.
- 41:45Yeah, he. Showed me he's real.
- 41:47As you're talking, I know you see my mind.
- 41:49I'm like, and I'll see it's processing, right.
- 41:53So when you said that he took you through his life, his death,
- 41:57the burial, the resurrection, I was just like, it was almost
- 42:01like he needed you to see because like you said, you were
- 42:04you doing the manifestation coaching and you were going too
- 42:07far. He's reminding you this is what
- 42:10I did for you to put it in perspective.
- 42:14That's what I'm hearing. That's how I interpret that.
- 42:17Right. Like that.
- 42:18Yeah. Needed you to see.
- 42:20You said you always loved Jesus. Bet I'm a had Jesus pull upon
- 42:24you. That's how God works.
- 42:25Like I think God, he does what you need and it won't make sense
- 42:30to anyone else. Yeah.
- 42:32He's showing you there's work to be done 'cause at the end of the
- 42:38day, there are people struggling and like when you read like let
- 42:43me slow down because I used to be like rainbows and bubble gum
- 42:48Bibles, right? And just one good things.
- 42:51But when you really look and listen like the Bible opens,
- 42:56there's chaos all in it. Like we have our first murder in
- 43:00the first book of the Bible. Like we have jealousy, we have
- 43:05the like betrayal, them going against God, like deception,
- 43:09like all of these things show up early.
- 43:12So I think from like with me, I needed that packaging to see
- 43:18things through like the Rose colored glasses because God knew
- 43:22I couldn't take that. That would have broken my spirit
- 43:24with everything that I had like lived through because we don't
- 43:27have choices about parents and all the other things that happen
- 43:31to us or we have to live through environments and things like
- 43:34that as children. Last year, I asked God to allow
- 43:38me to see like things and people as they are and not how I want
- 43:42to because I needed to see them in a way to preserve meat,
- 43:47right? And so I said, and God had me
- 43:50bubble wrapped and so I asked him to take the bubble wrapping
- 43:54off and he supported me in it. And I'm just like, wow.
- 43:58So like your son, he was like, he sees, he sees colors
- 44:02differently. I started to see things
- 44:04differently. I started to really be able to
- 44:06understand and digest the Bible in a different way.
- 44:09And he would do that for you. But you have to be a willing
- 44:14vessel. And so him bringing me back, it
- 44:18sounds awful, right? He's showing you there's work to
- 44:23be done. It wouldn't surprise me if he
- 44:25showed you all of that. You might supposed to be doing
- 44:29some real global humanitarian type stuff.
- 44:32And I saw you perk up when I talked about mission work.
- 44:36Yeah, yeah. Yep.
- 44:38Yeah. OK.
- 44:40And so that's so that's the call.
- 44:43So that was in 2022. And ever since then, it's just
- 44:45been, you know, more, more messages, more revelations.
- 44:47Like you said, the Bible is interpreted completely
- 44:50differently now. The words jump out at me when
- 44:52before they just stayed flat on the page.
- 44:55And so now I'm I'm just a vessel.
- 44:57I said, you know what, it kind of shook me.
- 45:00That experience shook me to the point where, yeah, it shook me
- 45:06hard because I didn't know things could just pop up out of
- 45:08my shower like that. Like I didn't know.
- 45:10And it felt, again, it felt demonic, but it wasn't, you
- 45:13know, so it was, it was kind of scary, I'm not going to lie.
- 45:15And that was probably the enemy wanting you to see it as demonic
- 45:19so that you wouldn't receive it. Yes.
- 45:23Father of lies, right? Like he's the father of lies.
- 45:26So he's going to try to talk you out of he OK.
- 45:30Yeah, Yep, he did, he tried. He was talking the whole time,
- 45:33like ended, ended is demonic. This is bad.
- 45:36This is dark. Like I kept hearing that.
- 45:37So I was like, OK, but thank God, God didn't let me get up.
- 45:42But yeah, so. So when you said mission work,
- 45:45that's it. And that's why I have such a
- 45:46surge for wealth and for helping women grow wealth and scale fast
- 45:52and their businesses. And I believe premium pricing is
- 45:54one of the easiest ways to scale fast because we need the capital
- 46:01to fund missions. So it's not, I don't want to get
- 46:03rich to live a lavish life. I mean, I want lavishness too.
- 46:06I mean, there's nothing wrong with.
- 46:07That I'm with you. Nothing.
- 46:09Wrong with that. But yes, we there's so many
- 46:12people that need us. There's just, it's too it's,
- 46:15it's crazy. It's just, I'm in Chicago right
- 46:17now and just even in this city alone, there's so many people
- 46:21that I want to help if I need the capital to do it.
- 46:24Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. OK.
- 46:27OK, so now let's shift more over to back to the bubble gums and
- 46:33rainbow parts and things, right? So we're going to shift the
- 46:38focus a little bit more on thriving without striving by
- 46:40refining what already works. OK, so how does your mental
- 46:45health background in training and clinical psychology
- 46:48influence how you coach Kingdom CEO?
- 46:53Yeah, well, like I've talked about before, just the thoughts,
- 46:57the the clinical training has helped me so much just identify
- 47:01thoughts like cognitive behavioral therapy, right, And
- 47:05the automatic thought stopping technique.
- 47:07That's one of my favorites. And I, I'm not legally
- 47:10conducting therapy, but I'm taking those different
- 47:13therapeutic modalities and kind of morphing them in a way that
- 47:18allows me to identify things that we can just stop.
- 47:22So one of the biggest is those automatic thoughts that just
- 47:25come through by default. I'm not enough.
- 47:28There's not enough, God's not enough.
- 47:31I need to shrink myself. I need to lower my prices.
- 47:34I need to be accessible and affordable.
- 47:36I need to give everything away for like boom, boom, boom, boom,
- 47:38right all the time. I really am very thankful and
- 47:43blessed that I have that psychology training because I
- 47:46can just help intercede, intercept those quickly, like
- 47:50you said. What you said What?
- 47:53Say that out loud again? Does it make sense?
- 47:55Yep, right. Doesn't line up with God's word.
- 47:57Or what are you saying about God with what you're bad?
- 48:00Like what are you saying about God?
- 48:03Right. And that it automatically just
- 48:06helps them say, Oh my goodness, no, I don't, I don't actually
- 48:09believe that. So that's just one way that I
- 48:13think it's, it's very needed to understand behavior, the mind,
- 48:18how the brain works and just yeah, how we work so that I can
- 48:24then support them in this identity work.
- 48:26Because what the most of what I do is not as much pricing, more
- 48:31identity, internal belief systems, and all the things that
- 48:34psychology teaches you. Yeah, I'm here for it, using it
- 48:39for good to shift them. Yeah, that's good.
- 48:43What identity wounds or mental health blacks do you commonly
- 48:48see in these high achieving women leaders and CEO?
- 48:52'S yeah. And it's so funny because the
- 48:58people I attract are just former versions of me, so I can totally
- 49:02relate, right? Like I'm not above anybody in
- 49:05any of this. I was her.
- 49:07And so there's a theme of women that are high achieving, highly
- 49:12creative, highly called these mental blocks.
- 49:18Again, it can be the demonic lies that they're not who they
- 49:21think they are, They're not who they're not who God says they
- 49:25are in his word. The lies that you need to be
- 49:33doing it the world's way in order to succeed and get ahead.
- 49:36That's a big lie because I'll come across women that are just
- 49:40burnt out. I mean, not fully burnt out, but
- 49:43they're doing things that will eventually burn them out because
- 49:46they think, OK, I got to do it this way because this coach told
- 49:48me this. But it's all secular coaches.
- 49:51It's all worldly advice. And even though some worldly
- 49:54advice is very helpful, yeah, a lot of it can run us to the
- 49:58ground. Right, you got to run it through
- 50:00your creator. Absolutely, yes.
- 50:04So yeah. And yes.
- 50:06Another big mental block is I have to carry it all all the
- 50:09time. You said the word surrender
- 50:11before and that just that's it. That's it.
- 50:13If you. Oh, man, when I finally shifted,
- 50:16what was I reading? Was it Malachi?
- 50:18I don't remember. I don't remember.
- 50:20But it was about God betrothing the harlot.
- 50:23He betrothed the harlot and he made himself her husband.
- 50:29And it hit me and I was like, God's my father.
- 50:32God's my husband. I'm a single mother.
- 50:34So also God's my, my baby daddy. But my husband, like in my
- 50:39house, it's not all on me, right?
- 50:42I, I can actually be feminine and I can submit to his
- 50:46leadership. I don't have to be a man in my
- 50:48house. I don't have to be all of the
- 50:50things that I think and I don't have to carry it all.
- 50:54And so once I learned that, Oh my God.
- 50:56And I just, I love helping women get back soft and feminine so
- 51:00they can actually release all the tension.
- 51:02It changes everything. When you see I'm over here, nod
- 51:05and I'm like. I see you.
- 51:07It's all of the alignment because I've shared with clients
- 51:10like about dating, right? Like in where they're going
- 51:14through a breakup or they're in a toxic situation.
- 51:18And I know I asked someone before, do you like have this
- 51:25same type of desire and energy for God as you do this man?
- 51:30And she was like, don't. And I was like, and it's not
- 51:35like judgment. That's because I'm like, what?
- 51:38God is not going to allow you to put anyone, anything before him.
- 51:44He will strip it all away. And if you RIP it down hanging
- 51:48on, he's going to make sure you're forced to.
- 51:51And I went through a version of that.
- 51:52I did a whole YouTube series on it called God said let Him go,
- 51:56right? Because God told me audibly let
- 51:59him go. I was in the mirror.
- 52:01I did not ask God for I was like, well, he got this.
- 52:04This is like I figured like he these are so many of the things
- 52:07I prayed for. Surely he's the one and didn't
- 52:10really consult God, not even let me take really out didn't
- 52:13consult God. I went forward with it even when
- 52:16there might have been signs. I was just like, we're still
- 52:21going forward. But that was like my own stuff,
- 52:23but not to get too far off base, but like, and then I've told
- 52:28clients, I've told men and women clients, it's like God wants to
- 52:31be your man, your best friend, your your daddy, everything
- 52:35first. Put him in that position and
- 52:38everything will line up. And that scarcity mindset, not
- 52:42only does it show up in business, it shows up in every
- 52:45other area of our life where people that bill take, whatever
- 52:49that spirit of desperation is what goes across all of those
- 52:53that desperation. And so they'll be desperate in
- 52:56jobs and then you're back in the same type of toxic negative
- 52:59environment again, the same way people repeat toxic negative
- 53:03relationships. They're dating the same people,
- 53:06working for the same people over and over again because they
- 53:11haven't changed. They are not waking up.
- 53:13And God keeps allowing it to wake them up.
- 53:16And if we would surrender, we don't have to be hurt so bad,
- 53:22right? To get to where we need to be.
- 53:24God allowed me to get hurt real bad, and I got that lesson and
- 53:28ain't gonna never do it again. And I'm helping other people to
- 53:31not make those same mistakes. Yeah, yeah, we could totally
- 53:35skip over that part, but. But you know, I hear you and
- 53:40you're so right. Yeah.
- 53:42The way. Yeah.
- 53:42The spirit of desperation that is big, that is so big.
- 53:46And like you said, he'll strip you.
- 53:48That's. I don't remember the book or the
- 53:50chapter, but it was the harlot who had a sister and they would
- 53:54to men to buy them gifts and to give them things and take care
- 53:58of them. And this is what we do as women.
- 54:01And it doesn't mean we're like, you know.
- 54:04It's just like he's talking about them prostituting
- 54:06themselves. He was, Yes.
- 54:09Yep. I think I was not listening to
- 54:11this like 2 weeks ago. I think I really was.
- 54:15Yes, this is. Like has it.
- 54:19Right. But like you said, strip, he
- 54:21took her through a process. He stripped her of everything.
- 54:26He stripped her of everything. And I related to her because I
- 54:31followed modern culture when it came to dating and I was
- 54:37stripped and I was the harlot. I mean, I can I can say it with
- 54:41full humility. I was her.
- 54:43I wasn't like a prostitute, you know, but I was it lined up.
- 54:46It lined up like there was some connections there.
- 54:49And then he said, I'm a strip you and and I'm gonna make you
- 54:54suffer a little bit or no, I'm going to allow you to sit in
- 54:58that for a little bit. But then after that, I'm going
- 55:00to betrothe you. And then after that, I'm going
- 55:02to clothe you and I'm going to feed you and I'm going to bring
- 55:06you everything back as my daughter, as my wife.
- 55:09And that's what he does. So what you're talking about is
- 55:13just so good. So, so good.
- 55:15And there was one other thing you said.
- 55:16I said, let me write this down before I forget.
- 55:18So you talked about all those different lives and pivots.
- 55:21You met you. You had.
- 55:24Yeah. God did that so that you could
- 55:26see these women so you can judge them.
- 55:30It's hard to really judge yourself, right?
- 55:32Like you can empathize because I was there, I was delivered, I
- 55:37was betrothed. And so because of that, like
- 55:43they are able to see themselves and you and you and them.
- 55:46And that's how it works. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 55:51It's so true. You're right.
- 55:52Yeah. There's no looking down.
- 55:54There's no condemnation here at all.
- 55:57Yep, that's a big and you're right.
- 55:59Thank you for that, for that mirror, because that that's.
- 56:02Yeah, because people see where you are now, and then they might
- 56:05feel less than and feel like maybe they don't belong in your
- 56:09presence, your company or the services that you're offering to
- 56:12try to, you know, to lift them up and raise them up.
- 56:15And you're really just being a vessel.
- 56:17But God, he did that on purpose so that you have a testimony
- 56:20like, wow, hurt and pain is not just meant for hurt and pain.
- 56:25God uses everything. And one of my previous guests,
- 56:29my good friend, she was just saying everything is spiritual
- 56:32compost. Everything is spiritual compost
- 56:38and so. Yeah, OK.
- 56:39We will reuse it so God will use that to what looks like dirt and
- 56:43make it soil. And then you can grow and thrive
- 56:46and be nourished. And it's it's what he needs it
- 56:49to be. I like that I can't post smells
- 56:52and that's what it like. It smells and that's another
- 56:55part it be selling bad. Yes, but it's it's it's useful.
- 57:01I love that. Yeah, I love that.
- 57:03And it and it transforms into something beautiful.
- 57:05That's I've never heard that. That's that's the take away.
- 57:09Yeah. OK.
- 57:11So I think we we've already started to kind of like go into
- 57:14this next part, this next question, right.
- 57:16So you talk about refinement over starting from scratch,
- 57:20right? Like what does refinement look
- 57:23like in life? Like in real life?
- 57:27In life, so refinement, it's just surrender.
- 57:32I'm back to that word surrender. Yeah, that's all it is.
- 57:36It's surrender with a heart for obedience because if you
- 57:42surrender, but then you, you anchor yourself in, OK, God, but
- 57:46I want to be obedient to you. I don't just want to surrender
- 57:49today because surrender can be fleeting, like feelings, you
- 57:53know, you feel good. Let me surrender.
- 57:55You know, it's like meditation. No, like this is a lifestyle of
- 57:58surrender and a lifestyle of obedience knowing that I'm not
- 58:01going to be perfect, but I'm going to anchor myself back into
- 58:05this agreement of obedience. So that's one of the covenants I
- 58:07made with God. I mean, this is, I feel like I
- 58:10can share that. Yeah.
- 58:11Like I signed a contract with God and I said I'm going to live
- 58:14a life of obedience from this point forward.
- 58:16And it was when I saw Jesus, like I was shook because I
- 58:20couldn't believe it. And that's when I stopped
- 58:24engaging in all sexual activity. That's when I stopped dating.
- 58:29Like I think I've been on like 1 date since.
- 58:31But it was so, it was so PG was so cute and I was just like
- 58:34little jazz club and that was it.
- 58:36But it was one time I knew very clearly discerned like Nope,
- 58:40this isn't who God wants for me. I've been in the house.
- 58:43I stopped smoking weed since then because I used.
- 58:46I was a very I was highly creative and I loved marijuana
- 58:50to take me there, but I cut. Every of the lives of the enemy.
- 58:56Oh, Alicia, remember I started and I said no, I was like, oh, I
- 59:01just thought that's so good. One of the lies of the enemy.
- 59:03Because you hear that all the time that people, they smoke
- 59:06weed to be creative, right? You were created by the creator
- 59:11to be creative because you're made in his image.
- 59:14You do not need marijuana. That is a lie of the enemy.
- 59:20It's such a lie. It's.
- 59:21Such that just unlocked right here in this moment right now,
- 59:25which you like the number of people who struggle with that to
- 59:29give it up. Also, you know this, this is how
- 59:32you know that they're not taking on the peace of God.
- 59:34Because if when you have the peace of God, you don't need
- 59:38those things. And even if you you drink right,
- 59:43because people drink wine, why don't they talk about it all
- 59:45throughout the Bible? Your tolerance, your appetite,
- 59:49it goes down for those things when you really are surrendering
- 59:53and you allow the peace of God to come into you.
- 59:56You don't need those things. And I appreciate you really like
- 1:00:00telling your story. And just like how God has been
- 1:00:04working and the things He's like delivered you from.
- 1:00:07Yeah, I mean, you're good at you're you're good at what you
- 1:00:09do because I I divulge things I might have end this.
- 1:00:12Like, did I say that? Did I say I was a harlot?
- 1:00:16I say, I say the things, I say the things.
- 1:00:18It just depends. I mean, I told my business
- 1:00:21already. That's the thing I told my
- 1:00:23business already on earlier series and then it might spill
- 1:00:28out in another series, right? It just there's.
- 1:00:31Nothing to hide because you have that peace, right?
- 1:00:33The peace of God. You're an open door.
- 1:00:35Like there's honestly nothing to hide.
- 1:00:38Like no one can have anything on me.
- 1:00:39No one can publicly expose me if anything, because I've already
- 1:00:44said it. But but back to that, back to
- 1:00:46that weed lie. I know it's kind of a tangent,
- 1:00:48but it's so true because the Holy Spirit has me high.
- 1:00:53Like that's the best type of high come on I've ever
- 1:00:57experienced. And in the creativity and
- 1:01:00anybody that goes against that has never experienced.
- 1:01:06I have never. And I get it right, like a,
- 1:01:09there's nothing to explain everything for me that's pouring
- 1:01:13out of me. That's not substantiated where
- 1:01:16yes, I probably had time. I'm like, oh, I was so creative
- 1:01:19or like, I remember just like writing papers and I'm like, I'm
- 1:01:22gonna, I remember I had a friend, She was also in a PhD
- 1:01:25program. She was like, we get together on
- 1:01:27Wednesdays. We, we drink wine and we write
- 1:01:29and we work on our dissertation, right?
- 1:01:31Like and they, you know, it's flowing and not saying that's a
- 1:01:34bad thing per SE, but it's also one of the those things then
- 1:01:37your brain develops this connection or I write well when
- 1:01:40I drink wine. Yes, when all you got to do is
- 1:01:43be like, all right, Father God, Holy Spirit now.
- 1:01:45And I tell you that dissertation probably would have been done a
- 1:01:47lot sooner if I just really allowed God to come into that
- 1:01:49process. That was what I was still before
- 1:01:52I was soft when I was still on my I got to make it happen.
- 1:01:56It's on me and God repairs those relationships like that came out
- 1:02:03of hyper independence. That came out of survival mode
- 1:02:06that I need it and right. So like you talked early about,
- 1:02:09sometimes people aren't taught right.
- 1:02:12Like I read the Bible, but I didn't get it.
- 1:02:15Get it and so just really knowing and have that poured
- 1:02:22into me and then really seeing the things that are in me that I
- 1:02:25didn't want to be in me that weren't like Christ and I'm
- 1:02:29like, just remove these things for me.
- 1:02:31Just fill me with your love and like if I knew what it was I
- 1:02:35wanted it to be replaced with or what made sense, right?
- 1:02:38Like I would say that and I write my stuff.
- 1:02:40So I've been doing contracts I keep with God and didn't realize
- 1:02:44it. This was a big part of my
- 1:02:46journey. My shift was started with me
- 1:02:48writing an apology letter to God, physically writing and all
- 1:02:52the things that I say to him and talk to him about like in
- 1:02:57agreement with him every day, right?
- 1:03:00Wow, that's beautiful. It is, it really is.
- 1:03:03And there's somebody who's just like, probably like that sounds
- 1:03:06unappealing, but again, it's because you've not been here and
- 1:03:10you probably, you keep on going and you're going to find that
- 1:03:13moment, you're going to have that moment when there's nothing
- 1:03:16or no one but God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit to come through.
- 1:03:20And this will make sense to you. Yeah.
- 1:03:23But like that's, that's really and truly like how he works.
- 1:03:27And it's, it's amazing. So that agreement, that contract
- 1:03:31you signed is essential. And there is a piece that comes
- 1:03:36with that because it's like I'm a daddy's girl and I never
- 1:03:39experienced that in the earthly. Me neither.
- 1:03:42Never. But that's but again, so from
- 1:03:45the beginning. But I'm going too deep and too
- 1:03:47far off tangent, right? That's how the enemy keeps gets
- 1:03:53you to be like the women in Malachi, right, because you have
- 1:03:56the deficit. And really what it is is that
- 1:03:59you're chasing a relationship with the father, but it's really
- 1:04:02the heavenly father. And if it's not bottled for you
- 1:04:04and if you're not really directed there in a way that
- 1:04:07makes sense for you or you don't see that alignment that like,
- 1:04:13you know, everything is spiritual.
- 1:04:14We're we're stuck in the body, which is where the enemy wants
- 1:04:18us and our mind are that logic that keeps people from thinking
- 1:04:24higher, from thinking spiritually.
- 1:04:26Right. It's that orphan and that's what
- 1:04:29was driving me cuz I was like a serial monogamist and I just, I
- 1:04:34was in love with the concept of love.
- 1:04:38So I wasn't out here in the streets like that, but it was
- 1:04:41more like I just loved being in a solid relationship.
- 1:04:45But I still, it was still harlotry honestly.
- 1:04:48Like it still was not lined up with how God said it because God
- 1:04:51didn't tell me to do that. So, so yeah, I, it's everything
- 1:04:55you said 100%. I just say that because I want.
- 1:04:57To keep that it's, it's a thing, OK, so brand activation through
- 1:05:02prophetic alignment. So I wanted to give you an
- 1:05:06opportunity to talk a little bit more about like what is going on
- 1:05:11now, what you how you're helping women.
- 1:05:13So what inspired you to create the Price Like a Princess
- 1:05:17challenge? Oh yes, that's so.
- 1:05:22That's my best training so far, I believe.
- 1:05:27So what? Again, it was very spiritual
- 1:05:29what led me to create that because I got a vision in the
- 1:05:32shower again while I was praying and God showed me his daughters,
- 1:05:37it's time. This is the season for his
- 1:05:39daughter. So I'm thinking season to him
- 1:05:42being 2025 to 2026 like these next two years is our season to
- 1:05:48take dominion in the digital marketplace.
- 1:05:51To. Take Dominion yes, to scale and
- 1:05:55get high level cash injections in our lives, in our business.
- 1:06:00And so I don't I was not I never thought of selling.
- 1:06:05I mean, teaching women how to sell and create high ticket
- 1:06:08offers like that was never on my agenda ever.
- 1:06:11But God said you've been doing it.
- 1:06:14You know how to do it. You're great at it.
- 1:06:17You've truly tried to master the sales psychology conversation.
- 1:06:21You've mastered selling high ticket and not mastered right,
- 1:06:25but I've I've dedicated my yeah, that's been a goal is to master.
- 1:06:30So I'm like researching constantly experimenting trial
- 1:06:33and error. So ultimately, that's what I
- 1:06:36felt the Holy Spirit was like creative training because other
- 1:06:38women, this can be their, their Ave. or their the channel to
- 1:06:44help them scale in a way that I'm calling my daughters to
- 1:06:47scale in the season and take to take digital dominion.
- 1:06:50And it doesn't mean go viral. It just means you are generating
- 1:06:54so much cash in your business that you now have the capital to
- 1:06:58be able to make moves in a way like a woman who has dominion
- 1:07:02and authority makes moves, not struggling, not surviving in
- 1:07:06your business. So that's that's why I created
- 1:07:08price like a Princess. It's my training.
- 1:07:10It's only $47. By the way, not everything
- 1:07:12Ioffer is high ticket. This is something that I know
- 1:07:15God said make it. Make it away so that people can
- 1:07:21can access it. Not make it fully accessible,
- 1:07:24but so that they can access it your work and then learn from it
- 1:07:29and then possibly just skyrocket their business from it.
- 1:07:31And then when you're not possibly it's whatever he wants,
- 1:07:34right to happen from it, yes, and that's, and he's going to
- 1:07:39reward you from that. So some people they're black
- 1:07:42would be like, that's, you know, if you, if you I'm slow down, if
- 1:07:48they're wanting to price it and God is like, no, give it away
- 1:07:52for free. Or if God is like, no, give it
- 1:07:55away for whatever, you know what I mean?
- 1:07:57And then that scarcity mindset, logical mindset might say, well,
- 1:08:03that's $50 walking out the door with every single one of those,
- 1:08:08right? And it's like, sometimes you
- 1:08:09have to do the things that don't make sense because you don't
- 1:08:13even know what God is about to do.
- 1:08:15But if you're literally like, it has to be like hand to mouth,
- 1:08:19like always a constant exchange, right?
- 1:08:22Like, and you just can't just like give, be generous sometimes
- 1:08:25like you stop it. Like you're in the, it stays
- 1:08:29with you. Like generosity is an energy, it
- 1:08:32stays with you then, and it's meant to be given.
- 1:08:35And we know you reap what you sow What you give is what you
- 1:08:39get. So if you stingy like nothing's
- 1:08:42coming your way, really. Either it's not.
- 1:08:45But when you're giving the things, they just flow.
- 1:08:48They just flow. And so you offering, I liked
- 1:08:53when you said that at the beginning too, you have price
- 1:08:56points for everyone because there are people and so many
- 1:09:00different levels of their lives professionally and spiritually
- 1:09:03where they need to be reached. Or they're like, I don't want
- 1:09:06anything that's $47 because in their mind they need something
- 1:09:11different. And you are likely, you know,
- 1:09:13offering them something completely different in that
- 1:09:16way. Generosity is a business
- 1:09:20development strategy. It is like if your business is
- 1:09:24grounded in generosity because God tells us to be generous so
- 1:09:28much throughout the Bible, like it's one of his top priorities.
- 1:09:32And by the way, he talks about finances more than he talks
- 1:09:35about heaven and hell combined in the Bible.
- 1:09:38So generosity and financial stewardship and wealth are top
- 1:09:43of mind for God. So that's just a huge take away
- 1:09:47that I now really try to ground the women I work with in is if
- 1:09:51you can't be generous in your business, then you're you're
- 1:09:56hurting yourself. Like you said, when you
- 1:09:57withhold, it will be withheld from you.
- 1:09:59Yep, that's it. That's a great.
- 1:10:01Point OK, So what type of shifts, whether they're
- 1:10:07spiritual, emotional or strategic, do you hold
- 1:10:09participants gain from the price like a Princess challenge?
- 1:10:14Identity shift, I talk a lot of about identity in that training,
- 1:10:20a shift in clarity on what types of offers you can even offer
- 1:10:24because some people may come in and not really have an idea of a
- 1:10:28product or service that they'd want to sell for high ticket.
- 1:10:31So you get an idea. I don't delve too, too deep in
- 1:10:35that, but you will have much more clarity on what you can
- 1:10:39offer and how you can communicate that offer to people
- 1:10:42in a way that's premium because there is premium branding,
- 1:10:45there's premium language. It's a whole relationship that's
- 1:10:48different from like affordable, discounted, cheap services,
- 1:10:54right? It's different.
- 1:10:55It's a different type of conversation.
- 1:10:57So women will take away from that as well.
- 1:10:59The types of conversations you can have and the way that you
- 1:11:02can position your offer so that it magnetizes the premium buyer.
- 1:11:09Yeah, because. Premium buyers are looking for
- 1:11:11something different than discount shoppers are.
- 1:11:15Right, totally different. And there's like everyone has
- 1:11:18their place, right? And that reminds me of something
- 1:11:20I've heard a couple people. My I think it was Myron Golden
- 1:11:26and so much right. Myron, he the same.
- 1:11:30Yeah. And he was on somebody else's
- 1:11:32podcast and I think Myron had mentored him and they were
- 1:11:35talking about taking free, like don't use the word free in
- 1:11:41association with your name or your businesses, your services,
- 1:11:45anything. Nothing is free.
- 1:11:48And So what I love that Myron Golden said is that it's going
- 1:11:52to cost you. It's going to cost you your time
- 1:11:54and your attention. And these days we know that's
- 1:11:56the going currency, like highest rate.
- 1:12:00And so he's like nothing is ever free.
- 1:12:02He said. Well, also I just think of it as
- 1:12:05community service. These things that I'm doing,
- 1:12:08it's not free. It's I'm doing service being
- 1:12:11generous. That is so fun, yes.
- 1:12:12Yeah. Like I literally just posted the
- 1:12:14video you're talking about while he was speaking.
- 1:12:17I don't know, I posted all my stories yesterday.
- 1:12:19Talk about it a couple of times, but.
- 1:12:22Yeah, he said that. And he was the one that helped
- 1:12:25me really understand that Genesis, the, you know, we were
- 1:12:28created to create. And then he that made me look a
- 1:12:34little more into just the power of our words too.
- 1:12:37I always talk about that, right? Like with CDT.
- 1:12:39But yeah, Genesis one and three, God said, let there be light.
- 1:12:46And there was, which means we speak it.
- 1:12:49It happens. It might not happen in Godspeed,
- 1:12:53but it happens. We have that authority to speak
- 1:12:56it and that's what it becomes. So what I'm learning is the
- 1:12:59deeper that I get into the word, that there really isn't that
- 1:13:03much disconnect between mental health and the Bible, which
- 1:13:06obviously makes sense because God's our creator, right?
- 1:13:09And if that's and, that's the manual.
- 1:13:14Yes. So.
- 1:13:16It really is. Yes, OK.
- 1:13:20So good. I know I'm like just so much
- 1:13:23this stuff. God is just one of the things
- 1:13:25and normally I pray, but because we were having all the technical
- 1:13:28difficulties before, like would have prayed before, like God has
- 1:13:32already blessed the space. He already knew what was
- 1:13:34happening. How does alignment with Holy
- 1:13:38Spirit create heaven backed business ecosystems that
- 1:13:43multiply impact not just revenue?
- 1:13:49How does the Holy Spirit provide heaven backed business
- 1:13:53ecosystems? That multiply.
- 1:13:55That creates impact, multiply. Yeah, impact, not just revenue.
- 1:14:00Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:14:06How does the Holy Spirit do it? This is how he's done it for me.
- 1:14:10I read the Word, He gives me a strategy, and then I just
- 1:14:15implement the strategy. Yeah.
- 1:14:17And that's just it. So, so that's kind of how he
- 1:14:20does it to sum up, is he does it through his word.
- 1:14:23That's what I've learned from me personally.
- 1:14:26So when I come up on a roadblock in my business where I'm like, I
- 1:14:30don't know the strategy now. God, like that strategy didn't
- 1:14:32work, not the way it needed to. I mean it was great, but I need
- 1:14:36a new strategy and I need it quickly.
- 1:14:39Please help me. Like you said, not just make
- 1:14:41money but create impact because I know you called me to do that.
- 1:14:44Please help me God and He will literally just highlight
- 1:14:48something in the Bible. The last time I asked for
- 1:14:50strategy, it was the widow with the two sons.
- 1:14:54Her husband died, she needed money, she had a debt, her
- 1:14:58husband had a debt and they were coming for the debt.
- 1:15:01The first kings. First kings.
- 1:15:02Is this the one where the oil with the oil?
- 1:15:08The vessels in the oil, the vessels in the oil and I, I
- 1:15:12could probably pull it out somewhere, but I won't.
- 1:15:13And I read, I've read that story so many times, but on that day,
- 1:15:17the Holy Spirit downloaded a strategy from that story and he
- 1:15:22said, get out a piece of paper and and graph it out or diagram
- 1:15:26it out so you understand what's next.
- 1:15:29Yeah. And that's what I did.
- 1:15:31Yeah. And that's what I did.
- 1:15:33And so that was it. And I can't get through the
- 1:15:35entire strategy cuz we'd be here all day, but it was so clear.
- 1:15:40You and God and the Holy Spirit. Some things are just.
- 1:15:42Absolutely for you. And the Trinity, yes. 100% I
- 1:15:48wanted to say that, but I said it nicely, like we'll have all
- 1:15:51day, but that's really why because it's not supposed to be
- 1:15:53shared. So thank you for calling that
- 1:15:55out. Absolutely.
- 1:15:56I had to learn that there are times where a guy is giving me
- 1:15:59just goodness and I want to call and talk to somebody.
- 1:16:02Nobody picks up. Nobody picks up.
- 1:16:06And I was like, and I got it. You want me to talk to you?
- 1:16:09This is for me. This is just for me, for my own
- 1:16:13idiots, and I'm one to share a lot of things with people.
- 1:16:16And he said no, no, no, daughter, they didn't earn this.
- 1:16:19This ain't for them. They ain't.
- 1:16:20Even. Right.
- 1:16:21Right, right, right, right. Yeah.
- 1:16:24So good. So true.
- 1:16:25Yeah. So that's how I go for God's
- 1:16:28strategy. God breathed heaven breathed
- 1:16:31heaven back strategy where I know I'm in alignment with God's
- 1:16:34will and God's order. I just take it to the word.
- 1:16:37That's that's all I do. I used to look at all of these
- 1:16:41different YouTube videos and try to get the tutorials and try to
- 1:16:44learn, but I my mind would be so overcrowded and I get headaches.
- 1:16:49It's just so much more simple with the Holy Spirit.
- 1:16:51Absolutely, because that that's confusion, because then you're
- 1:16:54going to hear all these things, the conflicting things.
- 1:16:56So naturally we go to learn. We've been programmed to learn,
- 1:16:59but we've been programmed to go everywhere instead of the book.
- 1:17:02And so I love that your answer was so simple for such a big
- 1:17:07question. And that's really what it is.
- 1:17:10And like when again, that gets that speaks back to surrender
- 1:17:13the simplicity like this thing with God.
- 1:17:15It's not trickery. It's not, it's not that hard
- 1:17:19like, and he tells us like he's not going to give you more than
- 1:17:23you can bear. If you're tempted, turn away.
- 1:17:26Like he provides an out for you. If you're tempted, he will
- 1:17:29provide an out for you. And if you don't know what it
- 1:17:32is, ask for help. He will give it to you.
- 1:17:35And I've heard you consistently talk about asking for help.
- 1:17:39And I think that's so important for anybody like to learn to ask
- 1:17:44for help from God because on earth we're taught.
- 1:17:48Don't be begging, act like you have, you know, all these
- 1:17:52things, all this shame and then you have not because you ask not
- 1:17:56we've been programmed all these things that go against the word
- 1:18:00of God. And so now I'm like I've heard.
- 1:18:03I'm. Telling you when these these
- 1:18:07seeds have been in me, but they weren't being water, weren't
- 1:18:13being water, they weren't being fertilized and nurtured because
- 1:18:16it's in here. So good.
- 1:18:19It's like now This is why people see stuff and it's coming.
- 1:18:23Like what it that's I think it's in Proverbs 31, right?
- 1:18:27Like God is within her, she cannot feel.
- 1:18:30Yes. And anybody watching, listening,
- 1:18:34right? But you have to believe that.
- 1:18:37So it's like you have to replace those thoughts, like thinking
- 1:18:40about CBT. You have to replace all those
- 1:18:42thoughts with what the Bible says about who we are, whose we
- 1:18:47are, what we have access to, the authority.
- 1:18:50And I love how you talked about the silent authority that we
- 1:18:53also possess and how God gives us divine strategy.
- 1:18:59It doesn't have to be hard. It's hard because we're trying
- 1:19:02to do it on our own. We're trying to do it the way
- 1:19:06that the world tells us or we're doing this.
- 1:19:09We're looking at what everybody else is doing, and God has
- 1:19:11something right for each and every one of them.
- 1:19:16It's so true. It's so true.
- 1:19:18And your point around simplicity that like it's, it needs to be
- 1:19:25simple because life can be chaotic.
- 1:19:29So when it comes to these big things, I truly believe God
- 1:19:31wants it to be as simple as possible and clear.
- 1:19:34And that links back to luxury because when you think about
- 1:19:38luxury in the worldly sense, minimalism is a big thing in the
- 1:19:42luxury space, luxury design space, simplicity and
- 1:19:46minimalism. And so that echoes the type of
- 1:19:49luxury that heaven is and the type of luxury that that God is.
- 1:19:53That echoes with how the Holy Spirit wants to move through US.
- 1:19:57And that to me is the epitome of luxury.
- 1:19:59It's just minimalism with God makes things so much easier.
- 1:20:05It does and fun I. Don't.
- 1:20:09It's a. If you know, you know.
- 1:20:12Yeah. If you know, you know.
- 1:20:15But people can see it on you and there's no explanation.
- 1:20:19So this is one of the reason why I said God let my life be the
- 1:20:23proof. So he's doing the work inside.
- 1:20:25It's like I'm a fountain and the things are pouring out and then
- 1:20:29it's about to be crazy. I said, godfather, I'm ready,
- 1:20:32open the floodgates. Before I would have drowned and
- 1:20:34would have been like, it's too much.
- 1:20:38No, Father, get just rain down on please, please.
- 1:20:45Yeah, that's why I'm. Here for us.
- 1:20:47I'm telling. You this is the season.
- 1:20:49I feel it. I feel it for us, for us who are
- 1:20:54again, have a heartfrob who have made the decision, because
- 1:20:57that's another thing. You don't need to be
- 1:20:58spiritually, you know, like high level spiritual.
- 1:21:02You don't need to know the Bible like the back of your hand.
- 1:21:05You don't have to. I have a client right now and
- 1:21:07she's just determined. Every time I, I try to pull out
- 1:21:10something, a mirror back of a thought that she said that
- 1:21:13doesn't line up with God, she will then put work on herself
- 1:21:16and say, OK, I'm going to go and I'm going to reprogram myself
- 1:21:19and I'll be back. You know, she's into like all
- 1:21:21the neuro stuff and I'm like, you don't have to do any of
- 1:21:24that. Like all you have to do is make
- 1:21:26a choice, make a decision, just make a decision.
- 1:21:30And your decision is yes, God, I'm surrender to you.
- 1:21:34That's it. And then from there, the
- 1:21:36simplicity of God and the potency of the Holy Spirit will
- 1:21:40wash away any of that programming on your behalf
- 1:21:43because he's, he's our advocate. So I think we just give us
- 1:21:47ourselves way too much work when it's just based in a decision.
- 1:21:52You don't got to go to church every Sunday and, and feel like
- 1:21:55a Christian. Just make a decision and then
- 1:21:58watch God work. Watch him.
- 1:22:01Watch him. Yeah.
- 1:22:02And there was one last thing before I take us out with the
- 1:22:05signature question, what you were saying about this being a
- 1:22:08season like for particular women.
- 1:22:11And I was talking with a client recently about she was like,
- 1:22:15it's like so many people are breaking up and like so many
- 1:22:18people going through these things.
- 1:22:19I was like, cuz there's an untethering that's happening
- 1:22:21that people have gotten in relationships that were not
- 1:22:24sanctioned by God, that we're not ordained by God,
- 1:22:28orchestrated by God, when God's like, yeah, that's enough.
- 1:22:31I have work for you to do. The number of women and even
- 1:22:35some men who are being subdued by who they're partnered with
- 1:22:40and how that's being used to keep them out of purpose, it's
- 1:22:45crazy. God is only going to allow that
- 1:22:46for so long. Right.
- 1:22:49He's only going to. That's a great.
- 1:22:50Point. The untethering.
- 1:22:53I love that. Yes.
- 1:22:54So it needs to happen and that's why you got your call.
- 1:22:58You were woken up in 2022. Well, I was Jarred.
- 1:23:05And then doing. 43 and then really surrendered in 2024.
- 1:23:11That is is gossipy. It's like you blink and he's
- 1:23:17established it. And so and the more that you are
- 1:23:20in that relationship with him, the more like you say, he'll
- 1:23:22take you into the word. And I really believe, and I
- 1:23:25think this shows with the work that you do, is it's an exodus
- 1:23:30somewhere, but commit your plans to the Lord and He will
- 1:23:33establish. Yes.
- 1:23:36And so failure is not allowed to.
- 1:23:38Give you all the steps. He will give you all the steps.
- 1:23:42OK, so then, Alicia, if you could leave the audience with
- 1:23:45one powerful truth to help them to rise in faith and thrive in
- 1:23:50purpose, what would it be? One powerful truth.
- 1:23:53It's like this, like spotlight, like that's just like so much
- 1:23:57pressure. One powerful truth.
- 1:23:59I mean, you've already given plenty.
- 1:24:02I have, yeah. But I'm, I'm trying to really
- 1:24:05lean in to what the Holy Spirit wants me to say right now
- 1:24:09because I don't want it to be just for me saying, oh, you
- 1:24:12know, I really want it to be an on time word for the women, men
- 1:24:18watching this right now. And I really, yeah.
- 1:24:22What's coming up is your royalty.
- 1:24:27That's it. When you're saved, you are part
- 1:24:30of a royal lineage, which means you're not like them.
- 1:24:35So stop trying to be like them, stop trying to fit in like them,
- 1:24:41and just own the radiance that is on you.
- 1:24:46Stop shrinking it, stop apologizing for it, stop trying
- 1:24:50to whisper it. Just be.
- 1:24:53Just be royalty. It's OK.
- 1:24:55It's OK. You're going to get pushed back.
- 1:24:57You're going to get negative criticism, and that doesn't
- 1:25:01matter your royalty. Period.
- 1:25:04Period. That's first Peter 29 low key.
- 1:25:07Hi, Keith. Yes, come on.
- 1:25:09A royal priesthood. Peculiar people.
- 1:25:12Yes, OK, very. Peculiar, yes, very peculiar
- 1:25:16individual. Yes, Alicia was been an absolute
- 1:25:19pleasure. I'm glad we were able to connect
- 1:25:22and to do this. Me too.
- 1:25:25And you know, you just never know what guy might pick up.
- 1:25:28We might see Alicia back here again another time in the near
- 1:25:31future. Yes, and it was such an honor.
- 1:25:35It was such a pleasure, and I just love talking to you.
- 1:25:37This flowed so amazingly. I felt the Holy Spirit here just
- 1:25:41pouring into this conversation. So thank you for having me here.
- 1:25:45And before we close up, I do want to share a couple things
- 1:25:49that are coming up, if you don't mind.
- 1:25:51Oh yes, come on. So September 24th, there is a
- 1:25:54free online symposium called the Millionaire Momentum Global
- 1:25:59Symposium where I'll be interviewing over 20 experts
- 1:26:04that will teach us strategy on how to breakthrough to that
- 1:26:08first $1,000,000. So this is a big project I'm
- 1:26:11working on. I'm very excited about it and
- 1:26:13it's free. God said make it free.
- 1:26:15We're not going to. I know somewhere.
- 1:26:17Yeah, I want to say it'll cost you time as it is.
- 1:26:23It is an investment because if you imagine every day we'll be
- 1:26:27dropping that guest of the expert interview in your e-mail
- 1:26:33and there's over 20. So you will need to dedicate
- 1:26:36over 20 days of your time and each interview is like 30
- 1:26:41minutes. That's easy deal.
- 1:26:43That's why I work. It is light work, but like you
- 1:26:46said, it's not free of your time and investment.
- 1:26:49Absolutely. So thank you for that
- 1:26:51correction. However, this is about to be big
- 1:26:53again. This is me being obedient to
- 1:26:56what God showed us. He said people are scaling and
- 1:26:58they're going to bust through into 7 figures, 8 figures, 910
- 1:27:02figures. But strategy is necessary.
- 1:27:05And you said that's coming up September 20.
- 1:27:07I don't. Know where y'all about
- 1:27:09September? I'm about to scale and bust
- 1:27:11through. OK, that's when we start.
- 1:27:13Until then, by the time we get into October scaled and bust
- 1:27:18through OK. Yes.
- 1:27:20And the conversation is how can you make a million by the end of
- 1:27:222025? Bam, so there.
- 1:27:26Yeah, big faith, big faith type talk.
- 1:27:29So join us there. Millionaire momentum.net is
- 1:27:32where you can register. Millionaire momentum.net, Yes.
- 1:27:38All right, OK, well, I'll say that.
- 1:27:43So audience, we're going to shift to you.
- 1:27:46This is where you're going to get your your call to action.
- 1:27:49So I want you to first reflect where am I shrinking my
- 1:27:53authority instead of walking boldly and my God-given
- 1:27:57dominion? And then next, I want you to
- 1:27:59take action. Well, you just got one action
- 1:28:01item, so you're going to go sign up for that millionaire
- 1:28:04symposium. Tell them one more time where
- 1:28:05they can do that. Millionairemomentum.net.
- 1:28:08All right, and then also you're going to join the price like a
- 1:28:12Princess challenge if you feel mood that the Holy Spirit is
- 1:28:16stirring for you to do that and Alicia has been so gracious and
- 1:28:21generous to make this even easier for you.
- 1:28:24This is normally available for $47.
- 1:28:26She is making it available for just $7.00 and it's exclusive to
- 1:28:32you all that are listening here on Rise and Thrive with Doctor J
- 1:28:35Nicole and you can get that at me www.aliciabradley.com/price
- 1:28:42like a Princess. So yes, it might be.
- 1:28:45A printless code, Yes. You can use the promo code
- 1:28:49Princess promo code Princess to get it for $7.00 just for you
- 1:28:53all. I'm not, it's not going to be
- 1:28:55listed as $7.00, but just for you put in that promo code
- 1:28:59Princess and you got it. OK.
- 1:29:02And I will help you and know it will help you scale in ways and
- 1:29:05just help you breakthrough in ways that you haven't before.
- 1:29:09Love that and I love that when God he gives those things, it's
- 1:29:12the thing and then finally we're going to leave you affirmed.
- 1:29:16I have divine permission to walk in my God-given authority,
- 1:29:21multiply my impact, and build a legacy of excellence.
- 1:29:27All right. Well, Alicia, it's been a
- 1:29:29pleasure having you here today on Rise and Thrive for Doctor J
- 1:29:33Nicole. Yes.
- 1:29:35Thank you so much. And listeners, I want you to
- 1:29:39know you can find rice and fried for Doctor J Nicole pretty much
- 1:29:42anywhere that you list. And God has expanded our
- 1:29:45territory. So we are now available on
- 1:29:48Amazon Music, Pandora, iHeartRadio.
- 1:29:53By the time you hear this, we'll be on sub stack if we're not
- 1:29:56already on sub stack as well, in addition to already Spotify,
- 1:30:00YouTube and Apple podcast. So God is doing things the
- 1:30:04merges of available. So Speaking of surges, I'll be
- 1:30:08at Life Surge DC and you can look down in the description and
- 1:30:12this is going to be a faith filled day and it's aligns
- 1:30:16exactly with what Alicia is talking about, how to scale your
- 1:30:19Kingdom businesses and your your Kingdom purpose.
- 1:30:23And so join me. It's taking place in October.
- 1:30:26I'm going to link some information down below with a
- 1:30:28special promo code for you all to attend that conference too.
- 1:30:32It's going to be here in the Washington, DC region.
- 1:30:35So thank you for joining us and we will see you next time on
- 1:30:39Rising 5 for Doctor J Nicole.