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Ohio State Football Insider: Big Moves From Some Young Buckeyes · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Thursday, April sixteenth.
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  Speaker 2: I'm your host, tol Moore.
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  Speaker 1: has athletic cetera. But Tony Gerderman, we are talking. We
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  Speaker 1: get a chance to talk to the offensive lineman and
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  Speaker 1: the defensive lineman, as well as offensive line coach Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Bowen and defensive line coach Larry Johnson. The look of
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  Speaker 1: anticipation on Tony's face is because we didn't talk beforehand
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  Speaker 1: about whether we're gonna talk about the offensive line or
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  Speaker 1: the defensive line on the show. Whichever one we do,
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  Speaker 1: I'm keeping him keeping in anticipation. This is the how
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  Speaker 1: do you keep it eddiot in suspense? Yeah, hang on,
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  Speaker 1: check the other side of this paper.
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  Speaker 3: Did you see me out there when they had to
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  Speaker 3: sign in for the credentials?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Was that right under where they had Goible written
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  Speaker 2: on the ceiling.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, there's no g's on this and runs
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  Speaker 3: out like, yeah, you can flip the page over.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, anyway, all right, that's enough of Tony's tom foolery.
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  Speaker 1: Why do they call it Tony foolery? It feels like
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  Speaker 1: this is really miss branding opportunity. Anyway, we are going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about football, we promise, and we're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about Tony.
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  Speaker 2: The offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So got a chance to talk to Tyler Bowen
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  Speaker 1: a little bit and then also get a chance to
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  Speaker 1: talk to gave Ben Sickle as well, and so let's
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  Speaker 1: start with Tyler Bowen.
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  Speaker 2: Let's start with Let's see what do we want to
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  Speaker 2: start with.
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  Speaker 1: How about just the overall approach to the offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: And this is something you'll kind of hear from a
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  Speaker 1: lot of offensive line coaches, but every time you hear it,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, Ooh, that's a good SoundBite. The offensive line
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  Speaker 1: a position of controlled violence or aggression. There has to
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  Speaker 1: be a mentality out there that it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: the toughest group on the field. Our job job, Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Bowlin says, is to make the people around us play better.
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  Speaker 1: You have to move a man from point A to
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  Speaker 1: point B, and that's the kind of stuff that you
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  Speaker 1: tend to hear this time of year. But it's also
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  Speaker 1: with the offensive line that they have coming back. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's also having an offensive line that can actually
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  Speaker 1: do that this year, with as veteran as it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be, it feels like that is a goal that's
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  Speaker 1: well within reach.
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  Speaker 3: It is, And when you added Arthur Smith to that equation,
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  Speaker 3: I asked Ian more about Arthur Smith what he's going
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  Speaker 3: to bring in this big smile. He's like, well, I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to get into too much. I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 3: you know, how about the what's it gonna do with
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  Speaker 3: the running game? Again, It's like, I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: give it too much. And he's like, it'll be more aggressive.
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  Speaker 3: You'll see that. And I think the offensive line is
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  Speaker 3: going to be very big in that physical Obviously, it's
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  Speaker 3: something Carlos Lachlan talked about when we spoke with him
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  Speaker 3: about a more physical running game, which he's looking forward to. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: anytime you talked to the offensive lineman about, hey, would
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  Speaker 3: you guys like to be more physical? Like, if you've
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  Speaker 3: got an offensive line that's like.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. We've talked to a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: ole Higo State players over the years.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone has ever offensive line wise, said
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  Speaker 1: like what if we were more finesse, Like that's never
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  Speaker 1: been something.
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  Speaker 3: I'm imagining, like Texas Tech Aerroy air raid offensive line,
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  Speaker 3: like can we just drop back in pass sets?
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  Speaker 4: But no.
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  Speaker 3: Overall the offensive line certainly expecting to be more physical
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  Speaker 3: and looking forward to it all all camp and then
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  Speaker 3: for the.
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  Speaker 1: And Tyler Boonene was asked about Arthur Smith and he said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the plays are the plays, and the runs
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  Speaker 1: are the runs. So it's you know, it's not like
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  Speaker 1: you're reinventing the wheel here. But he said, big picture,
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  Speaker 1: it is just about establishing an identity on plays where
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  Speaker 1: they know they can run the ball against any front structure,
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  Speaker 1: any movement that they see, they can run the ball.
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  Speaker 1: These are you know, ten twelve plays they can hang
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  Speaker 1: their hat on and just sort of finding what are
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  Speaker 1: those plays with this group of offensive lineman, with this
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  Speaker 1: group of running backs, because sometimes you know, this is
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  Speaker 1: this is you have to kind of fit your scheme
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  Speaker 1: to your personnel. That's sort of the process they're going through,
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  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 3: Tom, I think what they're saying without saying is they
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  Speaker 3: want to be able to on third and two when
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  Speaker 3: everybody knows they're going to run the ball, they're going
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  Speaker 3: to be they want to be able to run the ball.
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  Speaker 4: And of course that's something that Justin Fry used to.
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  Speaker 2: Say, gregist Borrow used to say.
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  Speaker 3: And it's every offensive lineman is going to say that.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, when you add in Tyler Bowen in
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  Speaker 3: the second year, a veteran offense line, Arthur Smith bringing
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  Speaker 3: in his things, you get the sense that I can
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  Speaker 3: believe this more now because these guys have been through it. Also,
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  Speaker 3: returning off running back room that as the wherewithal and
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  Speaker 3: has been through it all before, an experienced quarterback. Everything
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  Speaker 3: that Olio State has right now would lend you believe
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  Speaker 3: a more physical, more productive offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: You're bringing back everyone from the offensive line. Except if
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  Speaker 1: you ask the entirerohis State fan base, which player would
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  Speaker 1: you like to not see come back next year? Congratulations,
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  Speaker 1: he's at Kentucky now, so you know, was that fair
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  Speaker 1: or not? The fan base gave its answer and they
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  Speaker 1: got the response they wanted, and everyone else's back. You've
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  Speaker 1: got all sorts of veteran Druss. Now, you're not going
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  Speaker 1: to have all of the veteran guys on Saturday, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Austin Syravella on Saturday, No Philip Daniels on Saturday, No
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  Speaker 1: Josh Badia on Saturday. So I would dial back whatever
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line looks like. I would dial back the
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  Speaker 1: panic about forty percent from whatever level of panic you're
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  Speaker 1: going to have on Saturday, because the offensive line you're
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  Speaker 1: going to see on Saturday is not the offensive line
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be out there for Game one against
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  Speaker 1: ball State or Game two, perhaps more importantly against Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Bowen was asked about, Okay, how are you deciding
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  Speaker 1: who your guys are?
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  Speaker 2: What's your offensive line? What's that process like?
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  Speaker 1: Unsurprisingly, it was very similar to the way that we
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  Speaker 1: tend to talk about these things. He said, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to go into specifics on who's going where, but
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  Speaker 1: what they do is they go through and they chart
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  Speaker 1: from one to sixteen or ultimately when you fit, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you get the rest of your guys one to twenty.
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  Speaker 2: What is that ranking like?
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  Speaker 1: From who you know, who is the offensive lineman you
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  Speaker 1: trust the most to be able to do things all
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  Speaker 1: the way down to the bottom of the list, and
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  Speaker 1: then he said, what kind of flexibility does each guy
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  Speaker 1: have to move around?
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  Speaker 2: Because you'll have guys.
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  Speaker 1: Who are tackle only, you'll have guys who are inside only,
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  Speaker 1: and you'll have swing guys and someone like Austin Serveald.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah he could play left tackle. Yeah, he could play
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  Speaker 1: right guard. Yeah he could play right tackle like you
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  Speaker 1: they and then you kind of go through you find
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  Speaker 1: your best combination of the five, which we talk about
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  Speaker 1: all the time, and then you go from there. That
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  Speaker 1: still sounds like that's very much a work in progress,
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  Speaker 1: which is probably not bad dudes, considering you have it feels.
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  Speaker 2: Like they should feel pretty good about their top five.
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  Speaker 1: So the fact that that's still a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a competition and a little bit of a consideration means
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  Speaker 1: there are other guys who were you know, this is
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  Speaker 1: not a the top five are nowhere near where they
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  Speaker 1: need to be. It's you got other guys who are
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  Speaker 1: in that conversation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and to discuss some of those top five guys
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  Speaker 3: and some of those guys that are outside of that
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  Speaker 3: right now, Ian Moore was asked, do you think you're
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  Speaker 3: in the top five?
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  Speaker 4: So that I would like to think so.
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  Speaker 3: But I know if I'm not working this summer and
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  Speaker 3: somebody else does, somebody has a good summer, they could
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  Speaker 3: be in the top five.
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  Speaker 4: So that's something that pushes them.
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  Speaker 3: In terms of one of the guys who is not
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  Speaker 3: in the top five but will be on Saturday, and
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  Speaker 3: Carter Low, he said Carter Low has the best pass
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  Speaker 3: sets on the team and that Carter Low is ahead
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  Speaker 3: of this is Ian Morris saying, yeah, Carter Low is
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  Speaker 3: ahead of where he was at the same time, mentally
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  Speaker 3: he can handle a bad rep and then come right back.
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  Speaker 3: Ian Morris said he had trouble just with the mental
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  Speaker 3: aspect of the difficulties of the position. So from talking
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  Speaker 3: to the guys here, like Carter Lows, he's taken these
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  Speaker 3: reps and done a lot with them, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: will they need him this year. It's always great to
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  Speaker 3: have a third tackle, and in Ohio State may have
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  Speaker 3: four tackles if you want to throw Austin Sirevald in there.
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  Speaker 3: In terms of Ian Moore, he said he's only been
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  Speaker 3: working right and left tackle basically even since before the injuries,
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  Speaker 3: he wasn't really doing any guard. So when you've got
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  Speaker 3: Phillip Daniels before the injury, not really doing any guard
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  Speaker 3: Ian Moore not doing really any guard Austin Siraveld, that
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  Speaker 3: swing guy. Things just continue to point towards a world
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  Speaker 3: where Austin Siravld is that right guard for the Buckeyes
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  Speaker 3: this year.
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  Speaker 4: But gave Van Sikel.
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  Speaker 3: They call wrecket Ralph because when he gets his hands
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  Speaker 3: on you.
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  Speaker 4: You're done.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's a pretty good nickname.
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  Speaker 4: I like.
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  Speaker 2: I like that one a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Bowen telling you about Carter Carter Low said he
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  Speaker 1: did a lot of physical development last yearch and then.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's normal.
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  Speaker 1: You You can come in from high school and you're
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  Speaker 1: playing and it's like, look at me, I'm the I
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  Speaker 1: can I can destroy everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: I can me wreck at Ralph.
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  Speaker 1: And then you get to college and it's like, oh okay,
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  Speaker 1: Like this is when we talk about we'll see in
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  Speaker 1: a year with the offensive lineman. That's what that year
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  Speaker 1: consists of a lot of physical development and growth, and
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  Speaker 1: there's a mental side of that game as well.
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  Speaker 4: You ever seen blood Sport? But John Claude Van dam did.
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  Speaker 2: Have I ever seen blood Sport?
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  Speaker 4: You know how?
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  Speaker 3: You know how John Claude vandam he smashes a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of bricks, yes, and then he has.
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  Speaker 4: Told bricks not hit back.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, here like you could smash a bunch of bricks
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  Speaker 3: in high school. Eventually the bricks hit back. So dynamite
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  Speaker 3: drop in Monte.
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  Speaker 2: Dynamite drop in Monty. He was he was asked.
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  Speaker 1: He talked about Carter Low last year sort of coming
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  Speaker 1: into his own week seven or eight last year, which is, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: that's earlier than you typically have a true freshman offensive
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  Speaker 1: lineman sort of come into his own. And he said,
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  Speaker 1: part of that is he is an intelligent young man,
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  Speaker 1: so he you know, you have that physical development, but
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  Speaker 1: also if mentally you can sort of pick things up faster,
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  Speaker 1: well that that expedites that process a lot. That is
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  Speaker 1: as we always say, that is it generally a we'll
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  Speaker 1: see you next spring kind of conversation. It sounds like he,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this was a relatively deep offensive line last
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  Speaker 1: year where you didn't need to throw a guy in there,
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  Speaker 1: but if they had to throw someone in there, he
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  Speaker 1: probably you know, he's probably in that sort of Ian
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  Speaker 1: Moore conversation where at the end of the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: four season you saw Ian Moore out there a little
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  Speaker 1: bit like against Tennessee at the end of that game,
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  Speaker 1: if you're in that conversation, be ready to play.
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  Speaker 2: That's a real good marker for where you're going to
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  Speaker 2: be long term.
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  Speaker 4: And I was just looking at my notes.
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  Speaker 3: Luke Montgomery also said Carter Lowe is ahead of him
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  Speaker 3: at the same period and there, and then Ian Moore
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  Speaker 3: added he's going to do great things here. On Ian Moore,
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  Speaker 3: he also said for him, there's no difference between playing
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  Speaker 3: tackle and guard. There's just there's less room at guard
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  Speaker 3: and at tackle you're having to play against the most
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  Speaker 3: athletic players in football, which he said, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: take Kenyana Jackson, who's two hundred and sixty five pounds,
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  Speaker 3: we'll running four or five can do all of these
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  Speaker 3: different things. There's some difficulty there. But I said, you know,
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  Speaker 3: right tackle, it's just you know, it's all the same.
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  Speaker 3: So he's got a good mentality for you know, wherever
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  Speaker 3: you need me, I'll play it. It's no big deal.
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  Speaker 2: And gave Van Sickle he was at the table I
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  Speaker 2: was at.
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  Speaker 1: He talked about the fact he has he last year
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  Speaker 1: he was at left guard, he was at right guard
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  Speaker 1: this spring. He has just been at right guard, So
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  Speaker 1: this is this is another one of the things where
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  Speaker 1: you kind of go, okay, phew, we've been We've been
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  Speaker 1: telling people, we've been hearing what we're hearing, and what
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  Speaker 1: we're hearing is now lining up with what the guys
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  Speaker 1: are talking about in front of microphones as well. That's
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  Speaker 1: I think a pretty good indication that you feel like
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  Speaker 1: Luke Montgomery real solid at left guard, no question. There
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  Speaker 1: is just a matter of Okay, who's going to be
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  Speaker 1: that right guard? Is that Cirivelled? Is that Van Sickle,
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  Speaker 1: is that Josh Dia. I mean, there's lots of guys
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  Speaker 1: who are sort of in that mix, but he's that's
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  Speaker 1: that's certainly the position where there's maybe the most question.
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  Speaker 1: He said he's gotten two percent leaner. I think he
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  Speaker 1: means in terms of body fat, so he got faster,
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  Speaker 1: stronger legs, stronger arms. He said, I'm not on that
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  Speaker 1: Luke Montgomery diet, who I think is a very picky,
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  Speaker 1: very selective eater, but he does monitor what he eats.
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  Speaker 1: And the last thing he said against Grambling last year,
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  Speaker 1: his first game, he said he had goosebumps on the
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  Speaker 1: field and it was going real fast, but he said
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  Speaker 1: it slowed down pretty quickly. He started to gain confidence
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  Speaker 1: through the course of the year. So but you know,
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  Speaker 1: end of the year Miami, like he knows, like he
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  Speaker 1: has seen the same film that everyone else has. He
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  Speaker 1: knows it was not where it needed to be. So
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  Speaker 1: there's been a lot of focus on improving that.
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