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Alex Traiman | CEO of JNS.org on Netanyahu Alleging Fraud as Arab Parties Score Record Gains — Emerge as Kingmakers in Israel National El... · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Let's go to Israel. Alex Treyman, my dear friend, the
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  Speaker 1: CEO of JNS.org, on for a fourth consecutive day because
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  Speaker 1: every day is a new story. So I guess, Alex,
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  Speaker 1: good afternoon. The big story there is, is that Bibi
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  Speaker 1: Netanyahu is contending that the Arabs, who somehow got 19 seats,
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  Speaker 1: he said, well, there's a reason why. He says that
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  Speaker 1: the Arabs dropped off thousands of envelopes with cash threats
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  Speaker 1: and violence against poll station members Multiple voting behind the curtain,
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  Speaker 1: voting with double identities, discrepancies between the number of envelopes
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  Speaker 1: and the number of voters, and the use, this is
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  Speaker 1: a big one, of prohibited mobilization software. That is Bibi's
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  Speaker 1: contention that the Arabs did all this and fixed the election.
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  Speaker 1: Do we have any proof of this?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's not just what Netanyahu is saying.
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  Speaker 3: The head of the elections committee has ordered the Shin Bet,
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  Speaker 3: which is the equivalent of Israel's FBI, to begin investigating
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  Speaker 3: mass voter fraud in the Arab sector. And to understand
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  Speaker 3: what that does, you have more votes in the Arab sector.
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  Speaker 2: These are parties that don't want.
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  Speaker 3: The state of Israel to exist as a Jewish state.
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  Speaker 3: And so if you have 19 seats of Arab parties
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  Speaker 3: as opposed to 10, which is what you had in
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  Speaker 3: the last election, well, that's nine more seats that don't
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  Speaker 3: go to pro-Israel parties on either the right or the left.
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  Speaker 2: And that really.
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  Speaker 3: Screws up the electoral math because you don't anymore need
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  Speaker 3: 61 seats out of 120 to form a government. You
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  Speaker 3: need 61 out of 101 because 19 seats are going
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  Speaker 3: to these Arab parties. And so foreign influencers, they understand that.
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  Speaker 3: that you could throw a monkey wrench and prevent either
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  Speaker 3: Netanyahu or the opposition from getting to 61 by having
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  Speaker 3: more Arabs come out to vote. And there are, as
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  Speaker 3: you mentioned, there is a great suspicion of fraud on
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  Speaker 3: multiple levels trying to stuff the ballots at these Arab
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  Speaker 3: voting stations.
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  Speaker 2: Both by just sticking.
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  Speaker 3: Pre-selected ballots in, but also by paying people through cash,
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  Speaker 3: also through gasoline gift cards, which we've seen already, piles
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  Speaker 3: of these gasoline gift cards in Arab areas that people
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  Speaker 3: are using to fill up their cars in order to
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  Speaker 3: go out to vote when they otherwise weren't going to
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  Speaker 3: do that.
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  Speaker 1: I know they mentioned Iran and Qatar and Turkey as
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  Speaker 1: possible places, countries that are involved in all this fraud
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  Speaker 1: with the Arabs. And what is funny, though, is whether
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  Speaker 1: there's fraud or not, there probably is. But, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Israel is often described by our haters, and there are many,
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  Speaker 1: because they're stupid, as an apartheid state, right? We're apartheid,
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  Speaker 1: we're genocidal, we hate everybody. In the meantime, we got
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  Speaker 1: 19 Arab seats in How many Arab countries are around
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  Speaker 1: the world? 40?
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  Speaker 4: 42?
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  Speaker 1: 50? What are the chances that a Jew would ever
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  Speaker 1: be able to serve in politics in these 40-plus Arab countries,
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  Speaker 1: yet in Israel? But we're always called the apartheid state.
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  Speaker 1: We got 19 Arab seats in our government. Does that
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  Speaker 1: not shatter that whole nonsense?
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  Speaker 3: It does, and it's even worse than that, because the
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  Speaker 3: Arabs that are Israeli citizens, and you have... 2 million
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  Speaker 3: Israelis that are Arabs that live inside this country. They've
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  Speaker 3: gotten to go to the polls Since 2005, they've gotten
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  Speaker 3: to go to the polls nine times to vote for
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  Speaker 3: Israeli politicians. How many times since 2005 have Palestinians living
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  Speaker 3: within the borders of Israel gone to elect the head
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  Speaker 3: of the Palestinian Authority?
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  Speaker 2: The answer is none.
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  Speaker 3: Mahmoud Abbas is in year number 20 now of his
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  Speaker 3: four-year term. So people want there to be a Palestinian state.
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  Speaker 3: You think that's going to be a democratic state? They
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  Speaker 3: don't have any democracy in the Palestinian Authority. The ones
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  Speaker 3: that have democratic voting rights are the ones that live
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  Speaker 3: inside Israel. Yet Israel's the one that's being accused of
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  Speaker 3: being non-democratic.
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  Speaker 1: Idiots. So, Trayman, tell me about this possibility now that
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  Speaker 1: I'm hearing from people. I can't give out their names,
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  Speaker 1: but you know who they are. They're saying, listen. Some
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  Speaker 1: of these people that ran against Bibi, Lieberman for sure,
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  Speaker 1: Lieberman for sure, maybe even Eisenkot, they're really unhappy with
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  Speaker 1: the success of the Arabs. So they may end up
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  Speaker 1: joining Bibi, and that would propel Bibi to 61, maybe
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  Speaker 1: 62 seats, and there's your government right there. Others say
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  Speaker 1: Netanyahu wants no part of Eisenkot. No, thank you. Do
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  Speaker 1: you think there's a possibility? with the success of the Arabs,
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  Speaker 1: that some of these guys who oppose Bibi might in
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  Speaker 1: fact join him to make sure they run the government?
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  Speaker 2: You have two options right now.
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  Speaker 3: There's either going to be anti-Bibi... Parties like those led
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  Speaker 3: by Eisencott, those led by Naftali Bennett, Avigdor Lieberman, who say.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, there's no choice here. The people have spoken.
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  Speaker 3: The majority of Jews in the country have picked Netanyahu
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  Speaker 3: to be the prime minister.
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  Speaker 2: There is this external threat.
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  Speaker 3: And opportunity, which is a return to war against Iran.
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  Speaker 3: And the responsible thing to do.
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  Speaker 2: Is to sit with Netanyahu. So that's option number one.
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  Speaker 3: Option number two is that we go toward a second election,
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  Speaker 3: but that's going to be five months down the line.
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  Speaker 3: And what that means is that you're potentially wasting five
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  Speaker 3: months of the two years that you have to sit
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  Speaker 3: in government while voting. Donald Trump is the president of
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  Speaker 3: the United States because who the heck knows what's coming
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  Speaker 3: down the pike after Donald Trump. You can either get
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  Speaker 3: somebody like a JD Vance or a more isolationist right wing,
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  Speaker 3: or you're going to get an anti-Israel left wing, uh,
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  Speaker 3: leader of the free world in the United States. You've
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  Speaker 3: got two years to get all the maximum advantages, uh,
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  Speaker 3: that come with governing with Donald.
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  Speaker 2: Trump and, and wasting it, you know, just.
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  Speaker 3: Seems like it is a, uh, a very large opportunity cost.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll have to see if people will do the
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  Speaker 3: right thing. Somebody's going to have to break a promise.
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  Speaker 3: You know, people have promised they're not going to sit
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  Speaker 3: with Netanyahu. They're not going to sit with the Arabs.
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  Speaker 3: They're not going to sit with the ultra-Orthodox religious. So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, if they hold to all their promises, that
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  Speaker 3: means that we're going.
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  Speaker 2: To another election.
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  Speaker 3: And if they break one of their promises... We're hoping
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  Speaker 3: that the promise is that they sit with Bibi. And
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  Speaker 3: Bibi said in this election, he said this is an
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  Speaker 3: election about Bibi or Tibi. Ahmed Tibi, one of the
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  Speaker 3: most anti-Israel members of this joint list of Arab parties.
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  Speaker 2: And he's right.
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  Speaker 3: It's either Eisenkahn and company are going to have to
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  Speaker 3: sit with Tibi. And the Arabs that hate the state
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  Speaker 3: of Israel don't want it to be a Jewish state,
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  Speaker 3: or they're going to have to come back on their
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  Speaker 3: promise and sit with Bibi.
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  Speaker 1: I did hear that if there is another election down
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  Speaker 1: the road, like you're saying, could be five or six
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  Speaker 1: months of wasted time, that that benefits Bibi the most.
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  Speaker 1: Can you confirm that?
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  Speaker 2: It could.
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  Speaker 3: You know, there was very, very large voter turnout in
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  Speaker 3: this first election after October 7th, including 60,000 plus reported
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  Speaker 3: Israelis who have abroad who flew in. And we have
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  Speaker 3: to see also, by the way, who paid for those
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  Speaker 3: those flights. That could be another case of voter fraud
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  Speaker 3: that needs some significant investigation.
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  Speaker 2: But the question is, like.
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  Speaker 3: Would 60,000 people fly again if there was another election?
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  Speaker 2: Election in five months from now? Would voter turnout be extraordinarily.
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  Speaker 3: High again in the anti-Netanyahu coalition strongholds if there's another
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  Speaker 3: election in five months?
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  Speaker 2: Plus, there could be a major war in between then.
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  Speaker 3: And now with the United States and Israel once again
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  Speaker 3: flying side by side to take out the Islamic Republic.
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  Speaker 2: So could a victory in.
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  Speaker 3: That war, if that happens, be to the benefit of Netanyahu?
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  Speaker 2: I think Netanyahu does believe that if he.
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  Speaker 3: Can't form a unity government, that he has very little
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  Speaker 3: to lose by triggering another election. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So what do you feel like in terms of training percentage?
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  Speaker 1: I think it's very, very high, personally, that, yes, President
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  Speaker 1: Trump in America and Bibi in Israel They come very,
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  Speaker 1: very hard. The hardest it's been yet against Iran once
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  Speaker 1: these elections are over Wednesday morning in the United States.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it seems like the percentages are high.
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  Speaker 3: In terms of Israel, it's not as simple as if
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  Speaker 3: Netanyahu would have won the selection straightforward and was on
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  Speaker 3: the path to creating a right-wing government because you can
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  Speaker 3: have the military, which does not align itself politically with Netanyahu.
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  Speaker 3: And this is a military that was against going into
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  Speaker 3: some of the places that Netanyahu ordered them to go into.
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  Speaker 3: that they could turn around and say, listen, baby, you
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  Speaker 3: don't have a legitimate government here. You're a caretaker prime minister.
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  Speaker 3: That's a bit of a lame duck prime minister there
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  Speaker 3: to manage the existential affairs of state in between elections.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the same as having a government. And so
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  Speaker 2: it would be very.
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  Speaker 3: Hard to see a situation where Netanyahu would be able
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  Speaker 3: to lead the IDF into a war that Israel was starting. However,
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  Speaker 3: if Iran started firing at Israel, that's a different story.
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  Speaker 3: And then the prime minister is responsible for defending the
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  Speaker 3: state of Israel, even in the caretaker interim basis. And
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  Speaker 3: then also if, uh, president Trump decides to launch this war,
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  Speaker 3: then I think all bets are off and Israel has
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  Speaker 3: zero choice, but to, uh, enter into that war alongside
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  Speaker 3: the United States.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the, uh, very likely scenario here. So
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  Speaker 1: on the way out for all the BB haters, even
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  Speaker 1: my own daughter telling me he's not going to win
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  Speaker 1: this time. And I say, stop it, stop it. It
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  Speaker 1: gets silly after a while, right? You're not going to win.
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to win. He's won five out of six.
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  Speaker 1: He's not forming his own government. He didn't get 61,
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  Speaker 1: but he won. Bottom line is, based on the votes
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  Speaker 1: that went to the opposition, and even the Arabs got
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  Speaker 1: way too many seats at 19, when you tally the votes,
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  Speaker 1: who got the most votes? Likud.
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  Speaker 3: BB. So.
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  Speaker 1: Bibi won, did he not?
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  Speaker 3: Not only did he win, but he got the same
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  Speaker 3: number of votes statistically that he's gotten in every single
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  Speaker 3: one of the previous five elections. So his electoral support
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  Speaker 3: has not slipped at all.
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  Speaker 2: Over the last six years.
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  Speaker 3: He still remains by far the most popular politician. And
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  Speaker 3: by the way, when you look at all those other elections,
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  Speaker 3: each time it was somebody else. Running against B.B., whether
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  Speaker 3: it was Benny Gantz or previously it was President Herzog
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  Speaker 3: or it was Naftali Bennett or Yair Lapid.
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  Speaker 2: And now it's Zagati, Eisenkot.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they just keep trying to throw the next
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  Speaker 3: person out there that.
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  Speaker 2: Could be B.B. B.B.
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  Speaker 3: Has been the stalwart, the one that has sat at
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  Speaker 3: the head of the right wing camp here for decades.
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  Speaker 3: more than 20 years, and he continues to get exactly
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  Speaker 3: the same number of votes that he's gotten every single time.
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  Speaker 1: That makes my heart warm. As always, Alex Trayman, amazing job.
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  Speaker 1: Four consecutive days. You are the best, and I mean this,
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  Speaker 1: the best in Israel and around the world at this.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you so much for hopping on again this morning.
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  Speaker 1: If something breaks, we'll talk again. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you're the best in New York City, and it's
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  Speaker 3: hands down, without question.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Alex. Thank you, buddy. I love you. Alex
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  Speaker 1: Trayman right there, the CEO of JNS.org, and he's done
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  Speaker 1: a tremendous job. Really, since October 7th, over 200 appearances
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  Speaker 1: on this show. Since October 9th, to be exact, 2023,
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  Speaker 1: right through these major elections. And you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: hear it, I know. Can't form a government yet, but
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  Speaker 1: BB won. He won. I told you, dickheads. I told
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  Speaker 1: you he was going to win, right? But you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to hear it because you hate him. I told
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  Speaker 1: you Trump was going to win. You don't want to
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  Speaker 1: hear it because you hate him. Maybe we can get
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  Speaker 1: to the point where people have real conversations, not emotional,
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  Speaker 1: and then we can maybe get somewhere. B.B. is the man.
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  Speaker 1: He's the man, okay? I told you, the hostage parents,
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  Speaker 1: I don't get mad at them. You want to be
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  Speaker 1: mad at B.B.? Your kid's in a tunnel somewhere. I
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  Speaker 1: can't argue with that, okay? But the rest of you morons,
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  Speaker 1: you're morons. I have no respect for you. Jews and
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  Speaker 1: non-Jews alike, but mostly Jews. We don't like Bibi Netanyahu.
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  Speaker 1: You're stupid.
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  Speaker 1: What the heck is going on here?