Latest / Nickel City Crew Podcast / S5 E8: Why So Defensive?!
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Fifteen, The Crazy You can see you breath out in
- 0:10Speaker 1: the Lake Effect, Breacon tables or guitar? Would you.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Wherese would you have to be?
- 0:19Speaker 1: And to Ron Elvis in the lay, Panchow.
- 0:23Speaker 3: Remembers that you need to.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Know us you out in now your family? Where's would
- 0:31Speaker 1: you like to be? Where would you have be?
- 0:37Speaker 4: Welcome into the Nickel City Crew. I am your host,
- 0:40Speaker 4: Rob Crippen. Please like us on Facebook and follow us
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- 0:48Speaker 4: along with all of our episodes, are presented by Crippen
- 0:50Speaker 4: Legacy Entertainment here on Spreaker and stream Yard. We're so
- 0:54Speaker 4: glad that you're joining us for some of your Buffalo
- 0:55Speaker 4: Bills and NFL content again today and as always, ease
- 1:00Speaker 4: on my Bill's thoughts.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Set out loud.
- 1:03Speaker 1: It's a vibe so ridiculous, two story three with six
- 1:10Speaker 1: the show. Where's what you want to be?
- 1:17Speaker 4: All right, let's get straight to it. Really really excited
- 1:20Speaker 4: for tonight's episode. Click clack, we back, I mean training
- 1:25Speaker 4: campus underway. The Buffalo Bills, the twenty twenty five iteration
- 1:28Speaker 4: of them are down at Saint John Fisher up in Rochester,
- 1:31Speaker 4: Pittsford area, and I mean it's it's so exciting.
- 1:35Speaker 2: I mean, what is that?
- 1:36Speaker 4: Every year I say it to my co hosts, football
- 1:39Speaker 4: is in the air, I usually name the episodes that way,
- 1:41Speaker 4: football is in the air. Man, I am so excited
- 1:45Speaker 4: to get this thing going the way that the new season.
- 1:49Speaker 4: I don't know, is something about it just literally being
- 1:51Speaker 4: in the air. It's just as a newness, there's a refreshness,
- 1:55Speaker 4: there's some type of just I just can't even put
- 1:59Speaker 4: my words on it to describe it, but I promise
- 2:02Speaker 4: you you can feel it in the air. Joining us
- 2:04Speaker 4: tonight as always my co host writing Shotgun Adam Dumchuck Rupsick.
- 2:09Speaker 4: Check them out on Instagram and Twitter at Adam Rupsick.
- 2:11Speaker 4: Are you Pete c Zyk? Holla at the crew DT
- 2:15Speaker 4: click clack, We back BOYD that we got a good
- 2:18Speaker 4: one for us tonight.
- 2:19Speaker 3: Man, let's go, let's go getting pumped up. Rob Nickel
- 2:22Speaker 3: City happy to be here on another feel good Friday.
- 2:25Speaker 3: Click clak Nickel City Crew. We're back in the building,
- 2:28Speaker 3: training camp underway. The juices are flowing. Rob brings me
- 2:32Speaker 3: back to you know, back when I played and those
- 2:34Speaker 3: training camps and getting picking out your equipment and getting
- 2:37Speaker 3: back with the boys. And that's kind of the vibe
- 2:39Speaker 3: you know, we saw this week of kind of the
- 2:42Speaker 3: messaging from all the guys is like, yeah, we're away
- 2:45Speaker 3: from our families in a college dorm, out of our
- 2:47Speaker 3: million dollar homes for a few weeks, but we love
- 2:50Speaker 3: being with the team. We're building the team and that's all.
- 2:51Speaker 3: This training camp is so excited to get into it,
- 2:54Speaker 3: Excited to see the cleats clacking against that pavement, Excited
- 2:57Speaker 3: to see the jerseys on pads coming next week. A
- 3:01Speaker 3: lot of competitions out there too for guys to get
- 3:03Speaker 3: on the field. It's it's ball, baby, It's ball. And
- 3:06Speaker 3: before you know it's gonna be February hopefully we're lifting
- 3:08Speaker 3: that Lombardi and before you know it, that's that's what's
- 3:10Speaker 3: gonna be happening. So let's go. Maybe, let's go. We're bad.
- 3:14Speaker 2: I love it, I love it, I love it.
- 3:16Speaker 4: Listen, man, it's funny because dt when Brandon Bean went
- 3:21Speaker 4: on w g R and kind of scorre stirs over
- 3:24Speaker 4: the wide receiver talk, we talked about it with our buddy,
- 3:27Speaker 4: you know, Scott Fry that night and like, listen, what
- 3:31Speaker 4: did the kids say I crashed out DT, and you know,
- 3:34Speaker 4: we talked about it that night of the episode. I
- 3:36Speaker 4: crashed out and not only was Scott there to witness it,
- 3:39Speaker 4: but our special guest tonight was there to witness it.
- 3:43Speaker 4: Excuse me, And it was a situation where I was there,
- 3:46Speaker 4: Man DT, I might have been on that.
- 3:49Speaker 2: Shout out to Whittleman, our war whittwed two K.
- 3:52Speaker 4: We just did his episode the other night on Wednesday
- 3:55Speaker 4: night on Coast to Coast DT.
- 3:57Speaker 2: I was up all night. It might have been two
- 3:59Speaker 2: and a half, have closer to three hours. I'm sorry
- 4:02Speaker 2: to say.
- 4:03Speaker 4: I was crashing out and I met this brother because
- 4:06Speaker 4: I was on there. He was on the space and
- 4:09Speaker 4: he had, you know, messaged me a DM me afterwards
- 4:11Speaker 4: let me know that he agreed with some of my
- 4:12Speaker 4: takes and stuff like that, and you know, not everything
- 4:15Speaker 4: because obviously I go crazy, but uh, we agree with
- 4:18Speaker 4: some of my takes, and it kind of sparked a conversation.
- 4:21Speaker 4: I was like, listen, man, I would love to have
- 4:22Speaker 4: you on listen joining us tonight our special guest. Shout
- 4:26Speaker 4: out to Olivia Nagel, our creative director, for hyping us
- 4:30Speaker 4: up all the week and getting us ready joining us
- 4:33Speaker 4: tonight coach Marcus Oliver. Check him out please on Twitter
- 4:38Speaker 4: at Marcus Oliver Underscore m O coach.
- 4:42Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I meanjo.
- 4:44Speaker 4: I mean I was crashing out and crashing out just
- 4:50Speaker 4: like anybody else.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Man.
- 4:52Speaker 5: Questions got to get answered. And today on the football field, everybody, no,
- 4:57Speaker 5: I'm I'm like there right now, and I'm a coach,
- 4:59Speaker 5: I'd be like man going on. So at the end
- 5:01Speaker 5: of the day, we're just trying to get those Everybody
- 5:04Speaker 5: got questions, man, We're just trying to answer them each
- 5:05Speaker 5: day and again it happens.
- 5:08Speaker 2: It happens. You're trying to way, Yeah, put the puzzle
- 5:13Speaker 2: pieces together. Now.
- 5:14Speaker 4: For those in our audience tonight that don't know who
- 5:17Speaker 4: coach Marcus Oliver is, he is the older brother of
- 5:20Speaker 4: current defensive tackle At Oliver number ninety one. So again,
- 5:24Speaker 4: shout out to Olivia and Nego for this week's previews
- 5:27Speaker 4: and stuff like that. Listen, we are so happy to
- 5:29Speaker 4: have you on tonight.
- 5:30Speaker 2: Coach.
- 5:31Speaker 4: I know your your time is limited. I'm going to
- 5:33Speaker 4: get right into it and I'm not going to waste
- 5:35Speaker 4: any time. Don't We don't waste much time around here
- 5:37Speaker 4: at nicol City Crew Listen, I am from the mindset
- 5:41Speaker 4: and I know that you and I have talked privately
- 5:43Speaker 4: before after that crash out session.
- 5:46Speaker 2: I am of the mind that I am. I feel
- 5:49Speaker 2: almost like Charlie Brown.
- 5:50Speaker 4: We literally named an episode earlier as season five started
- 5:54Speaker 4: about feeling like Charlie Brown and Lucy's always pulling the
- 5:57Speaker 4: football when we're getting ready to come up and kick it.
- 5:59Speaker 4: I don't want to put all of my eggs in
- 6:02Speaker 4: the Sean McDermott basket. The reason that I don't want
- 6:04Speaker 4: to is because over time he has shown me that
- 6:07Speaker 4: in the biggest moments he's going to come up small. Listen,
- 6:11Speaker 4: your brother has a big time task on his hand.
- 6:16Speaker 4: His fellow defensive line teammates have a big time task
- 6:19Speaker 4: on their hands, along with the entire defense on that
- 6:22Speaker 4: side of the ball. Talk to me about what you
- 6:25Speaker 4: think about your expectations for the twenty twenty five of
- 6:27Speaker 4: the Bill's defense, because from my standpoint, and I know
- 6:30Speaker 4: that I'm not the only Bill's bofi you member that
- 6:33Speaker 4: feels this way, I really.
- 6:35Speaker 2: Don't care about your brother.
- 6:36Speaker 4: I don't care about his side of the ball because
- 6:39Speaker 4: my coach finds a way to fuck it up and
- 6:41Speaker 4: mess it up any It doesn't matter. Man has been
- 6:45Speaker 4: four years to the same opponent five years in a row,
- 6:48Speaker 4: obviously including Cincinnati. How could you possibly convince me that
- 6:52Speaker 4: this year is something different because we obviously have allocated
- 6:55Speaker 4: a lot of resources into Sean McDermott and his defense
- 6:58Speaker 4: this offseason.
- 6:59Speaker 5: Right, Well, you know, everybody's right to opinion about how
- 7:05Speaker 5: they feel, what's going on in the building and how
- 7:06Speaker 5: they view everything. But I'll say this, for the most part,
- 7:11Speaker 5: at the end of the day, he's a proven winner,
- 7:16Speaker 5: I'll put it like that, and that's that's hard to
- 7:19Speaker 5: come by. Let's let's just be honest about the situation
- 7:22Speaker 5: what he has done in Buffalo. Even if you feel
- 7:25Speaker 5: like he reached his ceiling, if the ceiling is that,
- 7:30Speaker 5: then at some point you're gonna break through the ceiling.
- 7:33Speaker 5: At some point. It has to happen. Like the football
- 7:36Speaker 5: guy is gonna allow you the right.
- 7:39Speaker 2: It just has to happen.
- 7:41Speaker 5: And maybe it's this year, next year to following you
- 7:43Speaker 5: wherever the case may be. Right, But as far as
- 7:48Speaker 5: I'll say, as far as depth, i think it's the
- 7:51Speaker 5: most deep on the defensive line m we ever been
- 7:56Speaker 5: far as with young guys, right, and not not so
- 8:01Speaker 5: much to say like like I like this group. I
- 8:07Speaker 5: like I like the previous group, but I really like
- 8:08Speaker 5: this group because they actually went out and say they
- 8:12Speaker 5: went to like what three of the first four picks
- 8:15Speaker 5: or three picks was defense?
- 8:16Speaker 4: First first, first five since two thousand and six, right right,
- 8:20Speaker 4: five thousand.
- 8:23Speaker 2: Dressed in the trenches. But yeah, but even still defense,
- 8:27Speaker 2: let's talk about defense.
- 8:29Speaker 5: Even still, it's like, okay, if we're going to address
- 8:32Speaker 5: this issue, we're gonna address this issue the right way,
- 8:35Speaker 5: all right, We're not gonna pick here and then say
- 8:39Speaker 5: because I honestly like beans.
- 8:41Speaker 2: Said, man, we scored thirty points a game.
- 8:45Speaker 4: That's that night, and that's when I met you that
- 8:48Speaker 4: night that night, I said, hey, man, thirty points a game.
- 8:52Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you could get upset.
- 8:55Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, it's like, again,
- 8:58Speaker 5: hats off to whoever we played at that time.
- 9:00Speaker 2: They just had a better date than us.
- 9:02Speaker 5: But if you say, like week in and week out,
- 9:06Speaker 5: you know, roster versus roster was they were they better
- 9:09Speaker 5: than us, I'll probably say no.
- 9:12Speaker 2: I'll probably say no, they just taught us on a day.
- 9:14Speaker 5: Now, we need to get to that point where we
- 9:17Speaker 5: don't have that day, right, Yeah, it takes time, Like
- 9:22Speaker 5: we we just got to understand that what everything takes time.
- 9:26Speaker 5: It tastes like this is a whole not a whole
- 9:29Speaker 5: new team, but this is the team that finally you
- 9:32Speaker 5: can look up and say, well, I can see what
- 9:34Speaker 5: we can actually host a trophy like with everything else,
- 9:38Speaker 5: but we had the exlosive offenses we had you know
- 9:42Speaker 5: what I'm saying, the top ten d Yeah, yeah, we
- 9:45Speaker 5: have it, have it, have it both on the same team.
- 9:48Speaker 5: I think that will that will make it more reasonable
- 9:53Speaker 5: if I'm using that turn right or the reality of okay,
- 9:58Speaker 5: can we actually host a lo bart the trophy? And
- 10:01Speaker 5: me personally, I feel like every year that my brother
- 10:05Speaker 5: has been a part of the team, even though how
- 10:06Speaker 5: iggregant that sounds, he's gonna get him one, right, and
- 10:10Speaker 5: he's been close.
- 10:14Speaker 2: Yeah he's been close.
- 10:16Speaker 5: To right, he's been he's been in part of those moments,
- 10:19Speaker 5: those moments, but those moments help him mature.
- 10:23Speaker 2: If I listened to him.
- 10:24Speaker 5: Today, like I said, I don't really bother my brother
- 10:26Speaker 5: during the during the season really hardly at all. I
- 10:29Speaker 5: kind of let him be who he is, you know,
- 10:32Speaker 5: kind of just be be his own guy.
- 10:34Speaker 2: He goes.
- 10:35Speaker 5: We talk a little barber from like time to time.
- 10:39Speaker 5: I really don't try to miss him because I know
- 10:41Speaker 5: he's in that motive. Man, I just want to I
- 10:44Speaker 5: just want to win, and I just I want to
- 10:46Speaker 5: win the big one.
- 10:46Speaker 2: And I understand that. I get that right, And he's
- 10:50Speaker 2: been so close in that.
- 10:51Speaker 5: But if you listen to today, you listen to you
- 10:54Speaker 5: listen from a clip from way back in and listen
- 10:56Speaker 5: to a clip today, you can sound how mature that
- 10:58Speaker 5: guy has gotten itself as a football player. Who he
- 11:02Speaker 5: is as a he's a And I wouldn't say it's
- 11:06Speaker 5: totally different because he looked on on Sundays. You're gonna
- 11:09Speaker 5: see it if he's if he's lighting it up, you're gonna.
- 11:11Speaker 2: See who he truly is. He is a disruptor of
- 11:16Speaker 2: the of the game plan.
- 11:17Speaker 5: I'm I'm not I'm doing everything it takes to win
- 11:21Speaker 5: this damn ball game, right.
- 11:23Speaker 2: So that's who he is to his corer. But he's
- 11:26Speaker 2: not allowing.
- 11:27Speaker 5: Himself to open up and be and be that that
- 11:30Speaker 5: guy that can be like, hey man, I get you,
- 11:33Speaker 5: I get where you're at.
- 11:34Speaker 2: I was there too, I get that.
- 11:36Speaker 5: So just to see that that leader come, that guy
- 11:40Speaker 5: come out of him, like from Afar, Like I said,
- 11:42Speaker 5: I'm I'm not family, but I'm far. I'm thirty states
- 11:46Speaker 5: over right from Afar. Watching this, I'm like today, I'm
- 11:50Speaker 5: watching the interview. I'm like, oh, you're becoming that leader.
- 11:53Speaker 5: I like how, I like how this group gonna currn
- 11:56Speaker 5: out if if that guy leeding you. And remember we
- 11:58Speaker 5: still got Dakwan Jones, Aakwon Jones is leading Ed, and
- 12:02Speaker 5: Ed is leading those guys, the younger guys. I can
- 12:06Speaker 5: only say I feel confident about how this is gonna
- 12:08Speaker 5: turn out because I know what Ed is made of.
- 12:10Speaker 2: I know DNA. I know Ed is not gonna let man.
- 12:13Speaker 2: He said, Bro, we got it. We're good. Let's let's
- 12:16Speaker 2: make a play. So again, that's why I feel like.
- 12:22Speaker 5: The questions got answered more so on that side about
- 12:25Speaker 5: which we needed to get younger at on that side
- 12:27Speaker 5: of the ball. Given that you know, and I love Bond,
- 12:30Speaker 5: I think bab was good for Ed's development as far
- 12:33Speaker 5: as like a pro right to understand, like all right,
- 12:37Speaker 5: you need commaraderie, you.
- 12:38Speaker 2: Need all this stuff to be good as a unit.
- 12:42Speaker 5: Now let's go get younger right, get a little bit quicker,
- 12:45Speaker 5: a little bit faster, and now let's put it all together.
- 12:48Speaker 3: So and that's that's that's the point right there, right
- 12:51Speaker 3: these they invest big on the defensive side of the
- 12:54Speaker 3: ball in the draft. All these young guys are coming in.
- 12:57Speaker 3: We have the veteran leadership with Ad with the Kwan,
- 12:59Speaker 3: with even aj Epeneza. Even with these guys that you
- 13:02Speaker 3: know may have like that haven't produced, they've still been around.
- 13:06Speaker 3: It's not just leadership of an older guy teaching how
- 13:08Speaker 3: to be a pro. It's like you said, that transition
- 13:11Speaker 3: of now, it's it's bold. We're lifting the super Bowl.
- 13:16Speaker 3: That's our goal. That's what we're trying to do. So
- 13:18Speaker 3: they're not just coming in learning how to be a pro.
- 13:21Speaker 3: They're coming in learning this is what we have to
- 13:23Speaker 3: do to win a super Bowl. And it's and and
- 13:26Speaker 3: that's and that's gonna help these young guys out more
- 13:29Speaker 3: than just going on a young guy with a veteran
- 13:32Speaker 3: teaching him how to, you know, how to be with
- 13:34Speaker 3: the media, how to you know how what what to
- 13:36Speaker 3: be better actually on the field. But it's it's the edge.
- 13:40Speaker 3: And I love that you said that, Marcus, about the
- 13:45Speaker 3: point of adding kind of transitioning. You saw him. He's
- 13:48Speaker 3: always wanted to win, but now he he likes that
- 13:52Speaker 3: leadership role. And it's a it's a standard they're all
- 13:54Speaker 3: living by. And so these kids are coming in and
- 13:57Speaker 3: these vets now are living It's not just this is
- 14:00Speaker 3: how you be a pro, it's you need this is
- 14:02Speaker 3: what we have to do to be great, to win
- 14:04Speaker 3: the Lombard, to be there at the end of the year,
- 14:06Speaker 3: to be thirteen seconds away, to be a play away.
- 14:10Speaker 3: We have to do this day in and day out.
- 14:12Speaker 3: It's not just being a pro, it's being a championship pro.
- 14:15Speaker 3: And that's what the leaders on this team are giving.
- 14:17Speaker 3: That's why I have confidence in this draft class of
- 14:19Speaker 3: you know, it's there isn't as much there's not pressure
- 14:22Speaker 3: on them because there is the leadership of hey, you
- 14:24Speaker 3: messed up this play, no problem. But there's also there
- 14:28Speaker 3: isn't mess ups in what we do. So yeah, you
- 14:31Speaker 3: can mess up, you need to grow, but we got
- 14:33Speaker 3: your back if you do. But also know there there
- 14:36Speaker 3: isn't mess ups late in the season. We can't mess up.
- 14:39Speaker 3: It is a game of inches. It is a championship
- 14:41Speaker 3: caliber team and that's I love that point, because that
- 14:44Speaker 3: gives me a lot, you know, seeing the transition of
- 14:47Speaker 3: and I've seen it too, ninety one's transition of being
- 14:51Speaker 3: a highly talented draft pick, a lot of talent, and
- 14:54Speaker 3: then now becoming a leader of men and these young
- 14:57Speaker 3: men coming in and this is how we win a championship.
- 15:00Speaker 3: This is just how you be a pro. This is
- 15:01Speaker 3: how we win a championship. So that that's the best
- 15:04Speaker 3: leadership you can have.
- 15:05Speaker 5: I think, right, and I'm gonna I'm gonna leave with
- 15:08Speaker 5: this because I got a head out. But just just
- 15:12Speaker 5: the point of the fact that you know, Josh had
- 15:15Speaker 5: to come into his own Josh was the same. If
- 15:17Speaker 5: you want to be honest, Johnson a super competitive guy.
- 15:20Speaker 5: You know, I'm just saying this from before. I do
- 15:23Speaker 5: not know what's going on in that building. I don't
- 15:24Speaker 5: ask those questions, but you know, just fire, we want
- 15:27Speaker 5: to win, right, And then you see this year he
- 15:30Speaker 5: turned into that mature.
- 15:32Speaker 2: Heck what they give me?
- 15:34Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, you're gonna have a couple here, game here
- 15:37Speaker 5: and there where you can revert back to that, you know,
- 15:40Speaker 5: But for the most part, he kind of stayed in
- 15:42Speaker 5: that mental makeup of just being who he is. Right,
- 15:45Speaker 5: So I think that's that's the biggest thing is that
- 15:48Speaker 5: I think this team gonna I think there's gonna be
- 15:50Speaker 5: a more mature team that that relies on everybody, you know,
- 15:57Speaker 5: playing that part.
- 15:58Speaker 2: Just like with Joey Boss to come on now we
- 16:00Speaker 2: want to go signs Joey Bosa.
- 16:01Speaker 5: That's another mature body in that room that can help
- 16:05Speaker 5: those young guys. And how to be a pro. That's
- 16:09Speaker 5: all it is about, how to be a pro. And
- 16:11Speaker 5: with Buffalo, we already know that's a professional time. That's
- 16:14Speaker 5: our blue collar professional time. Go to work, do what
- 16:17Speaker 5: it takes. Right, at some point we're gonna they're gonna
- 16:21Speaker 5: host the trophy.
- 16:24Speaker 4: Now here's what I said, because you're getting ready to
- 16:26Speaker 4: go and I and I appreciate your time tonight for sure, coach.
- 16:30Speaker 4: Here's what I wanted to ask you specifically because and
- 16:33Speaker 4: this is not as.
- 16:34Speaker 2: At Oliver's brother, big brother.
- 16:36Speaker 4: This is not as I'm talking about it as a
- 16:38Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills fan because your brother plays with the Bills.
- 16:40Speaker 4: So you became a Bills fan by association. That's how
- 16:43Speaker 4: it goes. And absolutely, yeah, okay, so because that fact
- 16:46Speaker 4: is true, looking at it objectively, ten thousand feet above,
- 16:50Speaker 4: thirty thousand feet above.
- 16:53Speaker 2: Do you think that Sean McDermott has.
- 16:55Speaker 4: Any type of deficiency because listen, your brother has been
- 16:58Speaker 4: here for a little bit of time. He's already gone
- 17:01Speaker 4: through his rookie contract, he got his extension. You know,
- 17:04Speaker 4: we talked about that hero on Nichols City Crew when
- 17:05Speaker 4: he got it, and some people were you know, had eyebrows,
- 17:09Speaker 4: and even we did not because he didn't deserve it,
- 17:11Speaker 4: but because he hadn't shown, you know, it on a
- 17:14Speaker 4: consistent level.
- 17:15Speaker 2: But boom, exactly what this question is going.
- 17:22Speaker 4: So my question to you is that coach, coach Oliver,
- 17:25Speaker 4: what what do you think personally about Sean McDermott and
- 17:29Speaker 4: his ability to lead this team to that place? Because
- 17:32Speaker 4: I literally got off a Twitter Pa, Listen, you already
- 17:35Speaker 4: know you saw.
- 17:35Speaker 2: Me crash out.
- 17:36Speaker 4: I mean you saw me crash out with widdow Man.
- 17:38Speaker 4: I was just over the space for the last hour
- 17:40Speaker 4: and a half before the show started, and we're going
- 17:42Speaker 4: back and we're battling, and it was the fact that
- 17:45Speaker 4: I am I am not sure about his ability to
- 17:49Speaker 4: take us to that next level, and I am gripped
- 17:52Speaker 4: by fear because of the fact that Josh Allen.
- 17:54Speaker 2: Is so damn good and Oliver is so damn good.
- 17:57Speaker 4: You know, back in the day Trenamius White, we had
- 17:59Speaker 4: the we had the twins at safety in respects to
- 18:02Speaker 4: you know, Michael Hyde and Jordan Poyer.
- 18:04Speaker 2: We've already had great players.
- 18:06Speaker 4: On this team on his defense, on his side of
- 18:09Speaker 4: the ball, because he's a defensive coach and he hasn't
- 18:11Speaker 4: gotten it done. So why am I supposed to believe
- 18:14Speaker 4: that something is going to be different this year from
- 18:17Speaker 4: your perspective? And again, that doesn't have to necessarily be
- 18:19Speaker 4: because you're Ed's big brother. I'm talking about the fact
- 18:22Speaker 4: that you're a Bills fan now because of your brother.
- 18:26Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I don't trust them, man, I'm sorry.
- 18:29Speaker 2: I don't. And that's me. I'm not even speaking for
- 18:31Speaker 2: I don't. I don't trust them, man.
- 18:34Speaker 5: Like like I told you, I said, when we've talked
- 18:37Speaker 5: about it, I said, everybody's abjected to their opinion about
- 18:40Speaker 5: the situation.
- 18:41Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that I started off saying he's.
- 18:44Speaker 5: A winner, right, So at the end of the day,
- 18:47Speaker 5: I can take that to the bank now as as
- 18:50Speaker 5: a coach, right, sometimes.
- 18:53Speaker 2: You wish you could have this play back right in
- 18:57Speaker 2: any situation all the time. You're a coach, so it's
- 19:01Speaker 2: all right.
- 19:02Speaker 5: It's always like you, you wish you could get this
- 19:04Speaker 5: time out bad, You wish you could make this adjustment
- 19:06Speaker 5: when this happened.
- 19:07Speaker 2: Right.
- 19:08Speaker 5: But I think he really does just trust his staff
- 19:11Speaker 5: right to put their their players in the best position possible.
- 19:15Speaker 5: And sometimes it can it can get muddy, and sometimes
- 19:18Speaker 5: it doesn't look right. But I'll say it like this,
- 19:24Speaker 5: it's only only twice they've been with uh.
- 19:28Speaker 2: I don't like the word blew out. I'll say the
- 19:31Speaker 2: championship game.
- 19:32Speaker 5: And but the other ones, the other ones that play
- 19:36Speaker 5: here play there. It goes our way. So I don't
- 19:39Speaker 5: see that as a physic I see it as a
- 19:42Speaker 5: as if if And he's an NFL coach, so he
- 19:46Speaker 5: has to be noticed.
- 19:48Speaker 2: It's just it's a it's a growth. Use it as growth, right, because.
- 19:53Speaker 5: I'll say it like this, It's not like it's the
- 19:56Speaker 5: same thing beating us twice, but it's the same team
- 19:59Speaker 5: beating us. How do we get over that hump?
- 20:01Speaker 2: What? What? Essentially?
- 20:03Speaker 5: How do we get over that hump? I don't know
- 20:05Speaker 5: what the hump is. It's a new hump every year, right,
- 20:08Speaker 5: I feel like again there's a different excuse every year,
- 20:11Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But the thing about it is,
- 20:14Speaker 5: I said, like this, as we kept on knocking on
- 20:16Speaker 5: that door, right, and like you said, and you and
- 20:20Speaker 5: you're right to that. It's like, but Josh is probably
- 20:23Speaker 5: has about you know it. I don't only have a
- 20:25Speaker 5: certain amount of years Leve. You know, these guys don't
- 20:27Speaker 5: have a certain amount of years left. But I said, like,
- 20:30Speaker 5: this is the part of they was a part of
- 20:35Speaker 5: the start. Okay, now can they finish? Mh They were
- 20:41Speaker 5: a part of the start.
- 20:44Speaker 2: Like McDermott when mcdermotty out there.
- 20:46Speaker 5: Okay, they made the playoffs and that the following year,
- 20:48Speaker 5: you know, boom, and then Egg gets drafted and then
- 20:51Speaker 5: from that point on, right, it has has nothing short
- 20:55Speaker 5: has been nothing like it. All has been playoffs, play off, playoff, playoff, playoff,
- 21:01Speaker 5: game division around.
- 21:03Speaker 2: I think, you know, okay, I think it's okay for
- 21:04Speaker 2: me to raise my expectation.
- 21:07Speaker 5: And and then that's what I'm saying, And I'm like, yeah, yeah,
- 21:11Speaker 5: you're right to that, right, Like that's not wrong, right,
- 21:15Speaker 5: that's not wrong.
- 21:16Speaker 2: Okay.
- 21:16Speaker 5: Now now it comes to a point of all right,
- 21:21Speaker 5: I'm looking like I'm like when when are when can
- 21:26Speaker 5: they do it?
- 21:28Speaker 2: But the thing about it is is when they do
- 21:30Speaker 2: it right, then it's then what's next? Right you do
- 21:36Speaker 2: we repeat? You know what I mean? I can't look
- 21:40Speaker 2: you see behind me?
- 21:40Speaker 4: Coach any five? Baby, I'm saying nineties bills. I can't even,
- 21:46Speaker 4: so I don't even think that far.
- 21:48Speaker 2: I can't even.
- 21:49Speaker 5: I'll say, to just wrap it all up, I say, Man,
- 21:53Speaker 5: if he keeps on knocking on that doors, this is
- 21:55Speaker 5: gonna come open. I get everybody, I've seen all the commis,
- 22:00Speaker 5: concerns and this, that and the third. But at the
- 22:02Speaker 5: end of the day, if you keep knocking on that
- 22:04Speaker 5: door of opportunity, it's gonna eventually open up. Now, when
- 22:08Speaker 5: it opens up, do you take advantage and.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Host that trophy? Right?
- 22:13Speaker 1: Or?
- 22:14Speaker 2: Like I said, are you go attack it again?
- 22:17Speaker 5: Because at the end of the day, I think I
- 22:19Speaker 5: think right, I think mc dummod it's been doing the
- 22:23Speaker 5: best job he has been able to do with each
- 22:26Speaker 5: team he has been given. Even when they they said
- 22:31Speaker 5: they're not supposed to be in this position, they ain't,
- 22:35Speaker 5: he still found a way to put that team in
- 22:38Speaker 5: that position.
- 22:39Speaker 2: Now with this team here.
- 22:42Speaker 5: Ideally team I'm talking about team. This is probably the
- 22:46Speaker 5: most you went into an offseason like, man, we got
- 22:50Speaker 5: dep here, we got dem here, we got dep here,
- 22:53Speaker 5: we got demp here. Now can we Last year was
- 22:56Speaker 5: like man, were living into the training It felt like
- 22:59Speaker 5: we were living in training this You were like, well,
- 23:03Speaker 5: you know we.
- 23:03Speaker 2: Brought back today is white we brought. We brought in
- 23:07Speaker 2: Joey Bosa, talked, talked about draft.
- 23:11Speaker 5: Picks, and then you fasted out and then they went
- 23:13Speaker 5: out and got a loza more like they would listening
- 23:15Speaker 5: to you something.
- 23:16Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you know, you
- 23:20Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Slowly but sherety, they were just
- 23:24Speaker 2: answering questions as they win.
- 23:27Speaker 4: We'll close it out on this. We'll close it out
- 23:29Speaker 4: on this because I know you got a bounce. What
- 23:32Speaker 4: what should Bill's Mafia expect from your little brother this year?
- 23:37Speaker 4: Because I'll be honest now, when he got the contract
- 23:40Speaker 4: extension and then we're getting ready to let you go.
- 23:42Speaker 4: When he got the contract extension, I was not against it.
- 23:44Speaker 4: And d T we can you can go back through
- 23:46Speaker 4: the archives. You can see's on niggas and the carew
- 23:48Speaker 4: We're not against it. We were surprised. We were surprised
- 23:52Speaker 4: at the time. It was the timing because of the
- 23:54Speaker 4: fact that, like you talked about earlier, his production up
- 23:56Speaker 4: to that point had been good, but not he can't
- 24:02Speaker 4: shake that, and you know he can't shake that. So
- 24:04Speaker 4: because he was drafted the thing with number nine, overall,
- 24:07Speaker 4: you expect you know, hello, di Nada, you expect you
- 24:10Speaker 4: know what I mean, You're expecting some type of some
- 24:12Speaker 4: type of flash with it.
- 24:13Speaker 2: What can we expect from from ed this year?
- 24:16Speaker 4: Because of the fact that he knows who he is,
- 24:18Speaker 4: he knows the type of training that he's been through,
- 24:21Speaker 4: and the type of family he comes from. And then
- 24:22Speaker 4: in addition to the fact that he knows he got
- 24:24Speaker 4: the contract, what can we expect the ninety one this year?
- 24:27Speaker 4: Because I'm I am excited for the defense. I'm just
- 24:29Speaker 4: not gonna anything.
- 24:31Speaker 2: I'm not getting I ain't got the No, they better
- 24:35Speaker 2: be good, they better.
- 24:35Speaker 5: Be good, right, And like I said, you're right to
- 24:39Speaker 5: that being. I'm gonna tell you that every time. But
- 24:42Speaker 5: what I say, first of all, let me say it is,
- 24:45Speaker 5: I don't say nothing. I appreciate everything. So okay, I
- 24:49Speaker 5: think I think for Buffalo fans just just appreciate what
- 24:53Speaker 5: that guy goes in and does every snap, okay, every play,
- 24:58Speaker 5: and he doesn't complain about Nope, Nope, he doesn't play
- 25:03Speaker 5: bill since he's been signed.
- 25:05Speaker 2: He he is man.
- 25:06Speaker 5: If I gotta make a play, and making a play
- 25:08Speaker 5: is taking on the double team. I hope y'all know
- 25:10Speaker 5: that if I gotta, if I gotta take on this
- 25:12Speaker 5: double team. So uh but no, I can have his success,
- 25:16Speaker 5: so be it. But whenever that whatever that play, uh
- 25:20Speaker 5: cos my way, I'm gonna make it.
- 25:22Speaker 2: Just know that.
- 25:23Speaker 5: But if it doesn't come my way, just no, I
- 25:25Speaker 5: got I'm gonna make sure that everybody else eats around me.
- 25:29Speaker 5: And that's the maturity that that you hearing his voice
- 25:33Speaker 5: now that he understands it's not just me, it's everybody.
- 25:37Speaker 5: So I'll say, had the expectation that he's gonna have
- 25:40Speaker 5: a great year because he has been putting into work
- 25:43Speaker 5: like he's been. If I don't know if y'all follow
- 25:45Speaker 5: him on our Instagram or whatever, he has been putting
- 25:48Speaker 5: in that work I do constantly, and and just living
- 25:52Speaker 5: a humble life right No, no, you know, no, nothing
- 25:57Speaker 5: outside of this ball and being with his fa But
- 26:03Speaker 5: I also say, appreciate him. Appreciate what he does on
- 26:06Speaker 5: a daily basis, because at the end of the day,
- 26:09Speaker 5: all he wants to do is bring a Super Bowl
- 26:11Speaker 5: to Buffalo.
- 26:12Speaker 2: That's all he wants. That's all he wants to do.
- 26:14Speaker 5: So if y'all, if anybody out there, any Bills fans,
- 26:18Speaker 5: listen to this man, appreciate that guy because that guy,
- 26:20Speaker 5: like I said, he loves y'all to death, right, even
- 26:24Speaker 5: though if y'all go he goes and tie the grocery
- 26:26Speaker 5: store and y'all say, oh that he out, you know,
- 26:30Speaker 5: and he's like, man, I'm just trying to get.
- 26:34Speaker 2: Some groceries, right. But at the end of the day, man.
- 26:37Speaker 5: He just like I said, he loves he loves that city,
- 26:40Speaker 5: loves that town, he loves the atmosphere, he loves the game.
- 26:44Speaker 2: They environed me.
- 26:44Speaker 5: He loves everything about it. So at the end of
- 26:46Speaker 5: the day, just show appreciation to him, and he's gonna
- 26:49Speaker 5: he's gonna end up giving him giving you what you
- 26:51Speaker 5: want each and every day, right, So I think I
- 26:55Speaker 5: think at the end of the day, just make sure
- 26:56Speaker 5: y'all appreciate that man.
- 26:58Speaker 2: But I'm out, man, I appreciate your.
- 27:00Speaker 4: Man, check them out man at coach Oliver, that's at
- 27:04Speaker 4: Marcus Oliver underscore m O.
- 27:06Speaker 2: We appreciate you tonight.
- 27:07Speaker 4: I appreciate you actually coming on and UH and sharing
- 27:09Speaker 4: your thoughts with us for sure. Man listen DT. It's
- 27:13Speaker 4: funny because when you know, when you talk about the intangibles,
- 27:19Speaker 4: those are the those are the measurables that you can't
- 27:22Speaker 4: you can't quantify, you know what I mean, Like the
- 27:24Speaker 4: heart of a man, the will of a man, you
- 27:26Speaker 4: can't quantify it. And those are some of the things
- 27:29Speaker 4: that I think are really really important because of the
- 27:31Speaker 4: fact that I mean, when when we're talking about getting
- 27:36Speaker 4: so close and we're so close and we're not there,
- 27:38Speaker 4: but we're almost there, and this and that.
- 27:39Speaker 2: Sometimes it's razor NDT. Sometimes the difference is razier than
- 27:44Speaker 2: want to.
- 27:46Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's a game of inches. It's a
- 27:49Speaker 3: game of inches, rob and we've been on the inch.
- 27:55Speaker 3: Every game AFC Championship game literally has been inches. It
- 28:01Speaker 3: was Chris Jones blowing blowing up into into Josh one inch,
- 28:06Speaker 3: gets gets that back foot and that throat to Shaki
- 28:09Speaker 3: in the back of the end zone field goal. One
- 28:12Speaker 3: inch gets it in last year, one inch gets us
- 28:16Speaker 3: the first down, even though maybe he already did if
- 28:19Speaker 3: there was robot, you know lines, one inch gets us
- 28:22Speaker 3: in and you know the year before that, it's it's
- 28:26Speaker 3: it's an inch play too. So it truly is a
- 28:29Speaker 3: game of inches. We've done everything up till that last inch.
- 28:33Speaker 3: And the argument is, you know, yes, we're better than most,
- 28:38Speaker 3: we can but we can raise expectation. But yeah, is
- 28:44Speaker 3: there just is there something wrong with us that we
- 28:47Speaker 3: can't get through?
- 28:49Speaker 2: Or is it.
- 28:52Speaker 3: Or is it you know, we're just it's just going
- 28:56Speaker 3: that way for us. We aren't getting those inches. We
- 28:58Speaker 3: did everything, it's just kind of a flip and we're
- 29:00Speaker 3: just not getting the flip or is there something wrong
- 29:04Speaker 3: that isn't letting us get that inch? And that's that's
- 29:06Speaker 3: the argument, really, you know, that's that's we're going both
- 29:09Speaker 3: sides is who who who wants? And more who who
- 29:13Speaker 3: can do it? What are the intangibles? As shout out
- 29:16Speaker 3: mama money, Uh just put put up? What are the intangibles?
- 29:19Speaker 3: Is it something wrong with us or we're just getting
- 29:23Speaker 3: the bad flip of the car?
- 29:25Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's I don't know, it's it's interesting
- 29:28Speaker 4: because and I'm not I'm not lying DT, like I'm
- 29:31Speaker 4: a degenerate. I was literally on woodle Space for about
- 29:34Speaker 4: like two hours before the show, arguing in boxing people
- 29:38Speaker 4: because of the fact that like I just I just have,
- 29:42Speaker 4: I'm increasingly coming, I'm increasingly becoming. It's hard for me
- 29:47Speaker 4: to give McDermott like a pass. And I understand that
- 29:52Speaker 4: injuries are part and sometimes injuries are not an excuse
- 29:54Speaker 4: all the time, DT, Sometimes it's.
- 29:57Speaker 2: A reason, you know.
- 29:58Speaker 4: And and last year you've got you know what I mean, Well,
- 30:01Speaker 4: what do we talk about? You know, like last year
- 30:04Speaker 4: Elam was out there, he's tripping over himself. But what
- 30:07Speaker 4: did you say, Like last year at season four, you said, well,
- 30:10Speaker 4: we should have known that Benfort wasn't gonna be able
- 30:11Speaker 4: to play the whole game, so you should have been
- 30:13Speaker 4: coaching up the other guys throughout the week to be
- 30:15Speaker 4: ready to play because he may not last. And then
- 30:18Speaker 4: the year before I get it, you know aj Klein
- 30:20Speaker 4: coming off the couch and okay, I get it. And
- 30:24Speaker 4: then what was that the year before we were there
- 30:26Speaker 4: together again and it's you know, Damar Hamlin and it's
- 30:29Speaker 4: a lot of emotion and there's a lot of you know, angst,
- 30:33Speaker 4: and the team is just not ready to go.
- 30:36Speaker 2: So you got it chalking up. And then the year
- 30:39Speaker 2: before that is the other AFC championship game and yeah,
- 30:41Speaker 2: excuse me.
- 30:41Speaker 4: The year before that is thirteen seconds that has nothing
- 30:44Speaker 4: to do with injury injuries, excuse me. And then the
- 30:47Speaker 4: year before that it's you know, oh, AFC Championship game
- 30:50Speaker 4: and we're just we're new to this and we're just
- 30:51Speaker 4: not ready for it, while our coach kicks field goals all.
- 30:54Speaker 2: Day and like, I don't, I don't know, man, I
- 30:57Speaker 2: just have a tough time with it, man, I really
- 30:59Speaker 2: do now.
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- 31:53Speaker 4: We gotta we gotta have him back on DT because
- 31:55Speaker 4: he kind of he kind of got my juices flowing.
- 31:57Speaker 4: Like he kind of got my juices flow. He made
- 32:00Speaker 4: me want to go to practice. They getting ready to
- 32:02Speaker 4: start football practice next week. He made me want to
- 32:05Speaker 4: run through a wall.
- 32:06Speaker 3: Well, it's what you what you want to hear, right,
- 32:08Speaker 3: it's not you know way you that's you battle that
- 32:11Speaker 3: in the NFL of like you know, especially when I
- 32:14Speaker 3: was younger, like you thought all these guys were heroes, right,
- 32:17Speaker 3: and then you kind of start seeing like now I'm
- 32:19Speaker 3: an adult and these dudes are just adults. They're just me.
- 32:22Speaker 3: They just play professional football and you know, and they
- 32:26Speaker 3: might not be this is just their job. I don't
- 32:29Speaker 3: love going to my job every day, you know, and
- 32:30Speaker 3: so maybe days they're just like kind of blah, and
- 32:33Speaker 3: I think maybe there's there's some of that, but on
- 32:36Speaker 3: this team, it seems like that is limited to zero, right,
- 32:39Speaker 3: and hearing stuff like that, and you know, just hearing
- 32:43Speaker 3: things of like the intensity is like, this isn't a job.
- 32:48Speaker 3: This is their only goals to win a super Bowl
- 32:51Speaker 3: and that's all they care about. Team atmosphere. We need this,
- 32:54Speaker 3: we need to win. And so it's encouraging as a
- 32:57Speaker 3: fan to hear that from you know, somebody like you said,
- 33:01Speaker 3: the quietest Bill since he's been drafted, so you know,
- 33:03Speaker 3: somebody that's not gonna get on the podium and kind
- 33:05Speaker 3: of like hoot and holler and like raw rah. But also.
- 33:10Speaker 2: That's the goal.
- 33:11Speaker 3: That's what I wake up and that's what I need
- 33:12Speaker 3: to do every day is win this super Bowl. So
- 33:15Speaker 3: it's you know, that's that's the real like encouraging thing
- 33:19Speaker 3: to hear as a fan because I think that's overall
- 33:21Speaker 3: the vibe of this whole team and that's kind of
- 33:23Speaker 3: what makes us different and what has the culture and credit.
- 33:26Speaker 3: You know, we dig McDermott a lot, but that culture
- 33:30Speaker 3: was built by him and being when they came in,
- 33:32Speaker 3: and now that's just the norm of the playoff caliber
- 33:35Speaker 3: and championship caliber and all these guys all they want
- 33:37Speaker 3: to do is win a super Bowl. And like, yes,
- 33:39Speaker 3: it's a business, pros or pros. But you come in
- 33:43Speaker 3: and you got a guy, you know, a nine year
- 33:45Speaker 3: guy that's the middle of your defense that's gonna come
- 33:48Speaker 3: in and you know, all he wants to do is
- 33:50Speaker 3: win a super Bowl. These eight rookies coming in, what
- 33:53Speaker 3: do they see every day on the defensive side of
- 33:55Speaker 3: the ball. We win a super Bowl or that's it.
- 33:58Speaker 3: And that's so that it's encouraging to here that that
- 34:00Speaker 3: the buy in is what we think it is. We
- 34:03Speaker 3: think that culture is up, but it truly is that.
- 34:06Speaker 3: And I think that's what separates us from, you know,
- 34:08Speaker 3: from other other teams in the League of Teams, where
- 34:11Speaker 3: it just here's a bunch of pros, we get paid money,
- 34:14Speaker 3: we go, we try to win. If we don't, it's
- 34:15Speaker 3: a business. I'm I'm looking from a bag here. It
- 34:19Speaker 3: seems like it's quite the opposite. It's it's all win,
- 34:22Speaker 3: all team, and that's that's the mojo, and that's what
- 34:24Speaker 3: these kids are coming in at so I love hearing
- 34:27Speaker 3: that from coach oh On, you know him even saying
- 34:30Speaker 3: like I don't get in his I don't get in
- 34:32Speaker 3: his stuff. I leave him alone during the season. But
- 34:34Speaker 3: I do know all he wants to do is win
- 34:36Speaker 3: a Super Bowl. Got mute it, mute it up there.
- 34:41Speaker 2: Rob, Yeah, I mean I I agree, you know, yeah,
- 34:46Speaker 2: I agree.
- 34:46Speaker 4: You know, I I try. I try my best to
- 34:50Speaker 4: just not let the fatigue get to me. And I
- 34:51Speaker 4: think that that's what it is dt to be honest,
- 34:54Speaker 4: and you know, I don't think I do know that
- 34:56Speaker 4: that's what it is. It's the fatigue of you know,
- 34:58Speaker 4: I mean, we literally named it. It's so Charlie Brown,
- 35:01Speaker 4: like you know what I mean. I feel like I
- 35:04Speaker 4: feel like I'm being duped that type of thing. And
- 35:07Speaker 4: and that's why I say let's just go score forty
- 35:09Speaker 4: because we're in a situation now where, I mean, what else,
- 35:15Speaker 4: what else is there to try? We have given Sean
- 35:17Speaker 4: McDermott an opportunity to lead a defense, We've given them
- 35:20Speaker 4: an opportunity to have resources allocated just to him, and
- 35:25Speaker 4: it just hasn't it hasn't. It hasn't gotten this to
- 35:29Speaker 4: the Mountain man. I mean, we haven't even been to
- 35:31Speaker 4: the Super Bowl yet. I mean the Bengals have been
- 35:34Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl and look at that team. So
- 35:39Speaker 4: it's it's just it really is it really is hard
- 35:42Speaker 4: for me because like, you know, the Bengals haven't been there. Yeah,
- 35:45Speaker 4: excuse me, the Bengals have been there before us. You know,
- 35:47Speaker 4: we're probably we're on part with Baltimore. It's like we're
- 35:50Speaker 4: living you know, mirror lives with those with that team
- 35:52Speaker 4: right now because of the fact of the the success
- 35:55Speaker 4: of Kansas City, and I just I get tired, and
- 35:58Speaker 4: I think that that is what is driving me to
- 36:01Speaker 4: almost a point of insanity because of the fact that
- 36:06Speaker 4: I don't subscribe to the fact that Sean McDermott could
- 36:08Speaker 4: never he is not capable of winning a Super Bowl
- 36:12Speaker 4: or being the head coach of a super Bowl winning team,
- 36:15Speaker 4: and specifically our Buffalo Bills. I am more resigned to
- 36:19Speaker 4: the fact that I have seen his best, and his
- 36:23Speaker 4: best has not been good enough time and time again,
- 36:26Speaker 4: four times against one team in particular, and I get
- 36:30Speaker 4: shot down with the fact that we haven't actually been
- 36:32Speaker 4: at our best.
- 36:33Speaker 2: So I can't wait to get.
- 36:34Speaker 4: Into the offseason with you DT as we approach week one,
- 36:38Speaker 4: because there's not really more excuse, Like, there's just not
- 36:42Speaker 4: many more excuses that I can give him. I don't know, man,
- 36:46Speaker 4: I mean, you can blame thirteen seconds. You'll blame the
- 36:49Speaker 4: special teams coordinator. What happens with Smiley gets fired? You
- 36:52Speaker 4: know the actual Cincinnati gave you blame Fraser for playing
- 36:56Speaker 4: socer Carbridge. Okay, he gets fired. It's a secret fire,
- 37:00Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And they dress it up,
- 37:02Speaker 4: you know, put that lipstick on a pig.
- 37:03Speaker 2: You know.
- 37:04Speaker 4: They didn't want to work together anymore. They we talked
- 37:07Speaker 4: about it on Nichol City Crew. They didn't want it
- 37:08Speaker 4: to go plays anymore. Well then why why the fuck
- 37:11Speaker 4: am I here? Like Leslie, Like I'm out man. So
- 37:13Speaker 4: you don't want to blame me, then blame me. I
- 37:16Speaker 4: just I don't know, man. He's had different opportunities under
- 37:19Speaker 4: different coaching staffs.
- 37:20Speaker 2: Now he's got his guys.
- 37:23Speaker 4: I don't I don't know, man, Bobby Babbage is one
- 37:25Speaker 4: of his disciples. They've got to be better this year,
- 37:28Speaker 4: d T. They've got let me ask you.
- 37:30Speaker 2: This, do you they've got it each other?
- 37:33Speaker 3: Do you think Sean McDermott knows that, then that's the argument.
- 37:37Speaker 3: Right do you think Sean McDermott knows that the table,
- 37:40Speaker 3: the table is, the table is set up against him?
- 37:45Speaker 3: Like he is the he is the blame. You can't
- 37:49Speaker 3: you can't blame seventeen.
- 37:52Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, gone can't blame him anymore.
- 37:56Speaker 3: We we tried, you know, we people were trying to
- 37:59Speaker 3: blame the We don't have a good receiver room. We
- 38:01Speaker 3: go out and you know, score three points a game,
- 38:03Speaker 3: set a franchise record. So he can't blame that. The
- 38:06Speaker 3: offensive line stout, can't blame that. Defensively, there's been ups
- 38:10Speaker 3: and downs, and yes they have let up, you know
- 38:12Speaker 3: in the playoffs. There's been some some breakdowns, but overall
- 38:15Speaker 3: lead the league in turnovers, lead top ten every year.
- 38:18Speaker 3: You know, like so you had like the only thing
- 38:22Speaker 3: to really blame without sounding like a psychopath is Sean McDermott.
- 38:26Speaker 3: So does Sean McDermott know that, Like, that's my question,
- 38:30Speaker 3: you rob, do you think he sees well, everything is
- 38:33Speaker 3: pretty buttoned up around the organization's good, We got a
- 38:36Speaker 3: franchise quarterback. We're good kind on both sides of the ball.
- 38:39Speaker 3: So when we're not getting done. The blame has to
- 38:42Speaker 3: go to me because it really can't be blamed anybody
- 38:44Speaker 3: else without sounding crazy. So does he know that he
- 38:49Speaker 3: is the only one to blame? And how do you
- 38:50Speaker 3: think if he does? How does he how does he
- 38:53Speaker 3: handle that?
- 38:55Speaker 4: I I If you want me to be honest, yeah,
- 39:01Speaker 4: I do.
- 39:03Speaker 2: It's job.
- 39:04Speaker 4: It's job, it's job security. So all right, let me
- 39:09Speaker 4: put this as delicately as I can. I do not
- 39:13Speaker 4: think that Sean McDermott does not want to win a
- 39:16Speaker 4: Super Bowl. Obviously he does that. He's at the top
- 39:19Speaker 4: of his profession. We've give him his flowers. He's one
- 39:22Speaker 4: of the best ten to seven five coaches in the league, right, Okay,
- 39:28Speaker 4: no problem. He wants to get to the pinnacle of
- 39:30Speaker 4: his particular profession, which is obviously winning a Super Bowl,
- 39:33Speaker 4: hosting in Lombardy, giving us the parade that we all
- 39:36Speaker 4: deserve here in Bill's Mafia. So I do think that
- 39:39Speaker 4: he's trying. However, I don't think that McDermott is worried
- 39:46Speaker 4: or the same type of pressure that you would carry
- 39:50Speaker 4: when you know that, holy shit, man, if I don't
- 39:53Speaker 4: get this done like this year, if I don't listen,
- 39:57Speaker 4: I've got a sales quota that I got to meet.
- 40:00Speaker 4: Is the month of August. We are ending July. I've
- 40:03Speaker 4: got to hit a sales quota in August or they're
- 40:05Speaker 4: going they're going to fire me. He doesn't carry that, now,
- 40:09Speaker 4: does that? Does that salesperson that is entering we're winding
- 40:14Speaker 4: down in July. Does that salesperson that is heading into
- 40:17Speaker 4: August knowing he has a quota and knowing that the
- 40:21Speaker 4: writing is kind of on the wall, I'll be fired
- 40:23Speaker 4: if I don't if I don't obtain it. No, of
- 40:26Speaker 4: course Sean mcdermy doesn't carry that same type of pressure.
- 40:30Speaker 4: But man, I mean, I don't know if that person
- 40:34Speaker 4: is going to work better than my other You know,
- 40:37Speaker 4: my salesman who's a top performer, and he's been a
- 40:39Speaker 4: top performer, and he kind of coasts because he's so
- 40:42Speaker 4: good at his job. I don't think Sean McDermott is
- 40:44Speaker 4: so good at his job that he can just coast.
- 40:47Speaker 4: But I think that subconsciously, yeah, I do think that
- 40:50Speaker 4: he knows that Poula won't fire him. I think I
- 40:54Speaker 4: think that it would almost be naive to think that
- 40:57Speaker 4: he doesn't know that Poogula would be hesitant to does
- 41:01Speaker 4: that make sense?
- 41:01Speaker 3: Yeah, it goes back to that goes back to it
- 41:05Speaker 3: goes yeah, and it goes back to what we talked
- 41:07Speaker 3: about years ago of when the tie done, you know,
- 41:11Speaker 3: hit piece whatever came out and it was like, basically
- 41:15Speaker 3: McDermott's a dick and he it's his way or the highway.
- 41:19Speaker 3: He's old school, he's straight up. So I was thinking
- 41:22Speaker 3: your answer would kind of be more like he's he
- 41:27Speaker 3: doesn't see the blame on him. He doesn't. He's sitting
- 41:30Speaker 3: there at the table and saying like, oh, it's not
- 41:32Speaker 3: my deal. That's why I got rid of Azyphraser. That's
- 41:34Speaker 3: why I got so Like that's where I was trying
- 41:37Speaker 3: to get your mindset. I'm like, does he just not
- 41:40Speaker 3: think that, because I think it's like so clear cut
- 41:43Speaker 3: that like you're the only thing that you're the only
- 41:47Speaker 3: thing that can be blamed here, you know, and that's
- 41:50Speaker 3: not and that's not like the thing where it's like,
- 41:54Speaker 3: you know, we're calling for his head. But you have
- 41:58Speaker 3: to know, is Sean McDermott, you are the only thing
- 42:00Speaker 3: that can be blamed. That's my point with him, Like
- 42:03Speaker 3: you have to know that you are the one being
- 42:05Speaker 3: blamed if we can't do it because everything else is
- 42:08Speaker 3: in place, You can't blame anything else unless you know,
- 42:11Speaker 3: you talk crazy about Josh Allen. No, it's almost impossible
- 42:13Speaker 3: to at this point, even if you're a hater. Nick
- 42:16Speaker 3: Wright can't even talk to it about Josh Allen anymore.
- 42:18Speaker 3: You know, like it just we can't do it anymore.
- 42:23Speaker 2: You know.
- 42:23Speaker 3: It's he knows, like he's gotta know that he's the
- 42:27Speaker 3: only one to blame. So and that goes, so, now
- 42:29Speaker 3: does he have that dog mentality or is he chilling safe?
- 42:32Speaker 3: And you say he's chilling safe? I contradict the dog mentality.
- 42:36Speaker 3: I need to hit this sales quoter on fired because
- 42:39Speaker 3: desperation also doesn't mean it's better. It might mean you
- 42:42Speaker 3: work harder, but it doesn't mean it's better.
- 42:44Speaker 2: Right, But.
- 42:48Speaker 3: Yes, So that's like my thing, is it is it
- 42:50Speaker 3: he's just so arrogant he doesn't think he's the blame,
- 42:54Speaker 3: or he fully knows he is the blame. I would
- 42:57Speaker 3: like to think he fully knows he's the only thing
- 42:59Speaker 3: that can be blamed, So he's trying to better himself.
- 43:02Speaker 3: So he's not and they win the bull and you
- 43:04Speaker 3: can't blame anymore. I was the only the last leg
- 43:06Speaker 3: to get blamed. Now you can't do it anymore. I
- 43:09Speaker 3: would hope it's that, but I feel like our conversation
- 43:12Speaker 3: in the past, you know, I think, you know, we
- 43:14Speaker 3: might have thought he might be the other side of that,
- 43:17Speaker 3: where he's just like.
- 43:18Speaker 2: Resources to him. They keep giving him what he needs.
- 43:22Speaker 4: I just argued on on Wiggle's face for two hours
- 43:26Speaker 4: with Bill's fans and mafia members that want to tell
- 43:28Speaker 4: me that he's that McDermott's always coach bums, which is
- 43:32Speaker 4: not true. Injuries were the reason that.
- 43:36Speaker 3: The argument they're elevating, he's elevating, right, that's the that's
- 43:40Speaker 3: their argument.
- 43:40Speaker 4: He's elevating, he's elevating the talent, and we are and
- 43:43Speaker 4: we've I heard somebody call him an overachiever.
- 43:47Speaker 2: I and my rebuttals that was that you're not an
- 43:50Speaker 2: overachiever with Josh Allen. He is not Dan Marino, he
- 43:54Speaker 2: is not Philip Rivers. He is not whatever quarterback you
- 43:58Speaker 2: want to say that hasn't won.
- 43:59Speaker 4: He is not Patrick Ewing and Charles Barkley of the
- 44:03Speaker 4: NBA to the NFL equivalent.
- 44:05Speaker 2: He is better than them, and they are all time greats.
- 44:09Speaker 4: We might have the most athletic quarterback that God has
- 44:12Speaker 4: ever placed on this.
- 44:13Speaker 2: Earth now and after. Of course, I don't know the future.
- 44:17Speaker 4: If I know the future, I played the lotto and
- 44:19Speaker 4: we would have a big ass set and it would
- 44:22Speaker 4: be beautiful.
- 44:22Speaker 2: Nichol City Crew would look a lot different after I
- 44:25Speaker 2: won the Lotto. I don't know the future.
- 44:27Speaker 4: I just I just know that that this guy has
- 44:31Speaker 4: come up small, and they want to keep telling me
- 44:35Speaker 4: that he is that you know and and and you
- 44:37Speaker 4: and I got hit in bludgeon DT over the head
- 44:41Speaker 4: that the last two years Josh Allen.
- 44:43Speaker 2: Has had the ball.
- 44:44Speaker 4: But we and I told them, we we said that
- 44:47Speaker 4: on Nichol City Crew. We acknowledged the fact they had
- 44:49Speaker 4: the ball last two years. It's not popular to talk
- 44:52Speaker 4: about that. It's not popular to quote unquote blame Josh Allen.
- 44:56Speaker 4: I don't even blame Josh Allen because he was going
- 44:59Speaker 4: he was throwing his ecuse me a screen route to
- 45:02Speaker 4: Amari Cooper the play before you know what I mean,
- 45:05Speaker 4: the Kincaid play, You know what I mean, like, what
- 45:07Speaker 4: are we gonna get on that? And then everybody's like, oh,
- 45:09Speaker 4: he would have broke out and he just he got
- 45:11Speaker 4: shoe string tackled. He was gonna break like I guess
- 45:14Speaker 4: maybe we don't know, but I know that if you're
- 45:16Speaker 4: throwing the screen pass on a money down, you probably
- 45:19Speaker 4: don't have that much confidence in your guys gaining separation.
- 45:22Speaker 4: So for me, it's a situation where I'm already asking
- 45:26Speaker 4: the offense to do as much as possible. And when
- 45:29Speaker 4: Josh Allen clocked out last year at Triple Zeros, he
- 45:35Speaker 4: had twenty nine points and I thought that's enough to
- 45:38Speaker 4: win a playoff game on the road. I think that's
- 45:40Speaker 4: a good performance. Of Course he misthrows. Of course he
- 45:44Speaker 4: wasn't perfect. I've never hit from that fact, but he
- 45:47Speaker 4: is definitely not to blame. His surrounding cast could be
- 45:51Speaker 4: to blame. So for me, DT, I can't wait to
- 45:55Speaker 4: get into this year, not for it to be a
- 45:57Speaker 4: McDermott bashing year or anything like that. As we lead
- 46:00Speaker 4: up to Week one, I'm very excited to not be
- 46:03Speaker 4: able to turn left or turn right and make any excuses.
- 46:07Speaker 2: I don't what else?
- 46:08Speaker 4: What else is there barring injuries once again, and injuries
- 46:12Speaker 4: is what everybody loves to latch onto. What would there
- 46:15Speaker 4: be to do there's no a J. Klein coming off
- 46:17Speaker 4: the couch. You just told me, coach, Oh, just said,
- 46:20Speaker 4: we've got depth. What what other excuses do we have?
- 46:24Speaker 4: And we possess as as Bill's mafia heading into twenty
- 46:27Speaker 4: twenty five d T.
- 46:28Speaker 3: I don't I don't see anywhere to be honest, to
- 46:31Speaker 3: be honest, excuses, even if we have them, we have
- 46:33Speaker 3: to be realistic with ourselves. Definitely. You know, we've been
- 46:37Speaker 3: guilty on this show one hundred percent. Like the excuses
- 46:40Speaker 3: are starting to make us look dumb, Like it's what's
- 46:43Speaker 3: the excuse?
- 46:44Speaker 2: Oh, we can't be it's always injuries we need or it's.
- 46:47Speaker 3: Injury, Okay, we need the Chiefs at home. We got
- 46:50Speaker 3: the Chiefs at home. If we got the best quarterback
- 46:53Speaker 3: in the league, if we had the ball, you know,
- 46:55Speaker 3: with two minutes, Josh Allen's going to go down to score.
- 46:57Speaker 3: We had the ball with Josh Allen in those two games.
- 47:00Speaker 3: And so like we make these excuses and then well
- 47:04Speaker 3: all we need is this and then that this happens
- 47:06Speaker 3: and we're still not breaking through. So like the excuse
- 47:10Speaker 3: like we.
- 47:10Speaker 4: Just keep making we get we get they got mad
- 47:15Speaker 4: when we won with with Stefan Diggs. Then they wanted
- 47:17Speaker 4: to get rid of them after after he didn't come
- 47:19Speaker 4: to mini camp or training camp whatever, not training camp,
- 47:22Speaker 4: but whatever, it was off season workout.
- 47:24Speaker 2: They want to get half of the bills. Moufie want
- 47:25Speaker 2: to get rid of them. What happened? Everybody eats Josh
- 47:28Speaker 2: Allen wins m v P. Yeah.
- 47:30Speaker 3: So my point is, yeah, the excuses we're making are like,
- 47:35Speaker 3: as a fan base, I think this is kind of
- 47:36Speaker 3: a call out to all Nick City crew, all Bill's Mafi.
- 47:39Speaker 3: Right now, we're making these excuses, like to make ourselves
- 47:42Speaker 3: feel better. But then we're we're getting the results of
- 47:45Speaker 3: these excuses. Oh, we were injured A J. Klein came
- 47:48Speaker 3: off the couch. Next year, we weren't injured. Still lost,
- 47:50Speaker 3: Oh we need the chiefs at home, got the chief
- 47:52Speaker 3: at home? Still lost. Like so we're making these excuses
- 47:55Speaker 3: and there and then we're getting the it's not that
- 47:59Speaker 3: excuse anymore. We're and then we find another excuse. So
- 48:02Speaker 3: it yes, you are right in there's a comfort of
- 48:06Speaker 3: running out of excuses. Those who are good, those who
- 48:09Speaker 3: are good for making excuses are seldom good for anything else.
- 48:12Speaker 2: I feel excellent.
- 48:13Speaker 4: I feel excellent based on that because of the fact
- 48:16Speaker 4: that I do know that you know, this year it's it.
- 48:19Speaker 4: I don't have I don't barring injuries again. I mean,
- 48:23Speaker 4: you know, I was talking about it in the Space DT.
- 48:24Speaker 4: I'm like, if Josh Allen gets hurt and you know,
- 48:26Speaker 4: we're fucked like that. But you know, thirty one other
- 48:29Speaker 4: teams could say they're started quartering down there, they're pretty
- 48:32Speaker 4: much fucked, like.
- 48:33Speaker 2: Okay, barring injuries, what what? What is it now?
- 48:37Speaker 4: So what I need to see from Sean McDermott is
- 48:40Speaker 4: an ability to when the lights are the brightest and
- 48:44Speaker 4: everything is not perfect, I need your team, your excuse me,
- 48:47Speaker 4: your side of the ball, which you are. I mean,
- 48:50Speaker 4: that's that's your baby. If the offense was coming up
- 48:54Speaker 4: short every year and we had an offensive coach, do
- 48:57Speaker 4: you all think that I would not be calling for
- 48:59Speaker 4: the head coach because he was an offensive coach and
- 49:01Speaker 4: I like offensive coaches, absolutely not. I would be calling
- 49:04Speaker 4: for him to get the fuck out and we replace
- 49:06Speaker 4: it with a different office of coach. I don't like
- 49:09Speaker 4: after thirteen seconds. I posted this a couple of weeks
- 49:14Speaker 4: on Twitter DT.
- 49:15Speaker 2: It was the funny meme from Office space. What is
- 49:19Speaker 2: it that you say you do here?
- 49:21Speaker 4: And they're literally talking to Milton Ladhams and Milton he's
- 49:26Speaker 4: stuttering at what is it or not?
- 49:29Speaker 2: Wasn't Milton, It was the other guy, the main character.
- 49:31Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, Like, what is it
- 49:32Speaker 2: that you say you do here? Is?
- 49:33Speaker 4: He said, I just chill all day? I know that
- 49:37Speaker 4: Sean McDermott is not just chilling all day. I've already
- 49:40Speaker 4: given him as Flowers. I cannot continue to genuflect to
- 49:44Speaker 4: a defensive coach. When the rubber meets the road, his
- 49:48Speaker 4: defense shows up short. And if everyone wants to keep
- 49:51Speaker 4: beating me over the head with defense, excuse me and
- 49:55Speaker 4: injuries being the reason I'm going to walk down that road.
- 49:59Speaker 4: With the end of event, I'm gonna we gotta, I
- 50:01Speaker 4: gotta you go that way, I'll go this way.
- 50:03Speaker 2: Man, We'll see where we get.
- 50:04Speaker 3: Man.
- 50:05Speaker 4: Hopefully I'll meet you up at our destination, our destination
- 50:08Speaker 4: of the Super Bowl, right, you know what I mean?
- 50:10Speaker 2: And so I'm I break off from fans that and
- 50:13Speaker 2: what I and what I.
- 50:14Speaker 3: Hope what we were talking about. What I hope that
- 50:16Speaker 3: Sean McDermott realizes he is the one to blame and
- 50:19Speaker 3: to be better at that. But there's also some there's
- 50:23Speaker 3: also some gotta be some sense, I think, sense of
- 50:28Speaker 3: like goodness in his eyes, of like you don't even
- 50:31Speaker 3: have to be that much better, Like you're not at
- 50:33Speaker 3: a zero and have to go to one hundred. You
- 50:35Speaker 3: just have to be a little better. You need a
- 50:37Speaker 3: two more stops on defense. We win the playoff games
- 50:40Speaker 3: by fourteen points, you need well, you know, it's not
- 50:43Speaker 3: like you have to be significantly better. You just have
- 50:46Speaker 3: to be a little better. So I hope, maybe, so
- 50:48Speaker 3: this is my hope. This is what I envision, This
- 50:50Speaker 3: is what I want out of Sean McDermott. I want
- 50:53Speaker 3: him to sit there realize I'm the only one left
- 50:56Speaker 3: to blame. There's no other option.
- 50:57Speaker 2: I have to be blamed.
- 50:59Speaker 3: So with that, I need to be better. How do
- 51:01Speaker 3: I get better? And I don't have to be exponentially better?
- 51:06Speaker 3: I need one more stop. We win a playoff game
- 51:08Speaker 3: by fourteen points, I need one more Like it doesn't
- 51:11Speaker 3: have to be that much better even So I hope
- 51:13Speaker 3: he establishes that, agrees I'm the only one blame. I
- 51:18Speaker 3: get better, but I don't have to be I have comfort,
- 51:20Speaker 3: I know I can get better because it's not unrealistic
- 51:23Speaker 3: to get where I need to be, and that's that's perfect,
- 51:26Speaker 3: that's case scenario for me.
- 51:29Speaker 4: I gotcha. I think that there's a I think there's
- 51:33Speaker 4: a distinct difference between going to work under pressure knowing
- 51:39Speaker 4: that if I don't get it done, I could not
- 51:42Speaker 4: be doing this job anymore. And I think that there
- 51:45Speaker 4: is a distinct difference between that and then I'm going
- 51:50Speaker 4: to work. I need to get my job done because
- 51:54Speaker 4: that's what's required of me, and that's what I require
- 51:57Speaker 4: of myself. I'm not saying that he doesn't desire to
- 52:00Speaker 4: bring you know what I mean a parade that's Please
- 52:04Speaker 4: don't misconstrue Bill's Maffia Nicol City crew. I think McDermott
- 52:08Speaker 4: gives a shit. I know he gives a shit. I
- 52:11Speaker 4: just think that there's a different amount of added pressure,
- 52:13Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, there's just I think
- 52:15Speaker 4: it's inherent DT and I think that there's not There's
- 52:20Speaker 4: not any way that you can gloss over that difference.
- 52:24Speaker 4: When you think that you could possibly lose your job,
- 52:27Speaker 4: you might react differently in.
- 52:30Speaker 2: A situation where it's ass puckering time.
- 52:32Speaker 4: You might now maybe now, maybe you're Tom Brady or
- 52:36Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and you're one of those
- 52:37Speaker 4: cool guys, and it's just I'm the exact same.
- 52:41Speaker 2: I'm sety regardless, and that's what makes the greats the greats.
- 52:44Speaker 2: I get that.
- 52:45Speaker 4: I think that Sean McDermott knows that that Terry mcula
- 52:50Speaker 4: will not be firing him anytime soon. Does that mean
- 52:54Speaker 4: that he doesn't want to get the job done. No,
- 52:57Speaker 4: But what it does mean to the back of my
- 52:59Speaker 4: head is that every off season he finds a reason.
- 53:04Speaker 2: To okay this, you know what it was? That was
- 53:09Speaker 2: a little bit early, man, I mean AFC Championship game.
- 53:11Speaker 2: I just got here. We just came off of Sugar
- 53:14Speaker 2: Hih Josh and Houston where he's pitching the ball to Dalson.
- 53:17Speaker 2: I'm I'm doing pretty good, you know what I mean?
- 53:20Speaker 4: As he kicked field goal after field goal after field
- 53:23Speaker 4: goal and says he's trying to give his guys juice
- 53:25Speaker 4: and energy at halftime, which makes no fucking sense, because
- 53:27Speaker 4: there's no better way than to give juice and energy
- 53:30Speaker 4: than to go for it on forth and down and
- 53:32Speaker 4: fourth down and then get a touchdown and then imagine
- 53:35Speaker 4: how much juice And we said that, we said that
- 53:38Speaker 4: DT seasons ago. The next year is thirteen seconds. I mean,
- 53:45Speaker 4: everybody wants to talk about the script kick I got.
- 53:47Speaker 2: I got hit with that.
- 53:49Speaker 3: It's who you are. It's the intangibles of what you're
- 53:54Speaker 3: sewing with as a being born. It's in your DNA
- 53:57Speaker 3: of There's people that are a little higher anxiety. I
- 54:03Speaker 3: go out, have a few too many pops, don't really
- 54:06Speaker 3: know how the night ends. The next morning I wake up,
- 54:09Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, everyone hates me.
- 54:10Speaker 2: What did I do?
- 54:11Speaker 3: And then my whole goal the next day figure that out,
- 54:15Speaker 3: figure out what did I do? How to fix that?
- 54:17Speaker 3: Like I'm anxious everyone hates me. There's another part of that.
- 54:22Speaker 3: There's other people that don't think like that. Just go
- 54:27Speaker 3: out and say, oh, I don't I don't know, it
- 54:29Speaker 3: was what it was. And in ninety nine percent of
- 54:32Speaker 3: the time, I'm like, everyone hates me. Nobody hates me,
- 54:36Speaker 3: you know, but I'm anxious. And the next day, my
- 54:38Speaker 3: whole goal is to make sure nobody does. The other
- 54:42Speaker 3: person wakes up and doesn't even think people hate him.
- 54:45Speaker 1: And.
- 54:46Speaker 3: The time, ninety ninety percent of the time they don't.
- 54:49Speaker 3: But the one percent of the time everyone does hate
- 54:52Speaker 3: you because you really fed up last night, they don't
- 54:55Speaker 3: even acknowledge it. So that I'm out here Bryan and
- 54:58Speaker 3: apologize and trying to get it, that's that's gonna get
- 55:00Speaker 3: fired vibe. And then there's the other side of the coin,
- 55:04Speaker 3: where yes, there's benefits to that. You're cool, calm, collective.
- 55:07Speaker 3: You're not wasting your whole morning being anxious that everyone
- 55:10Speaker 3: hates you, because they probably don't. But then that one
- 55:13Speaker 3: time they are pissed, you're still just you don't even care,
- 55:17Speaker 3: you don't even.
- 55:17Speaker 2: Think about it.
- 55:18Speaker 3: And so it's it's two types of people, right, and
- 55:23Speaker 3: that is a That's what is Sean McDermott. Will he
- 55:27Speaker 3: ever get to the point where he starts feeling anxious
- 55:29Speaker 3: texting all his boys the day after like, how bad
- 55:32Speaker 3: did I f up yesterday? Or is it I I'm fine,
- 55:38Speaker 3: I'm cool, I'm not getting fired. And that's what your
- 55:40Speaker 3: point is.
- 55:40Speaker 2: I think of me.
- 55:41Speaker 3: I think you think he's a little comfortable in that seat.
- 55:45Speaker 4: I think he's very I think he's extremely comfortable, not
- 55:49Speaker 4: a little bit. I think he's extremely comfortable in that seat.
- 55:52Speaker 4: And again, two things can be true at the same
- 55:55Speaker 4: time Bill's Mafia and Nicol City Crew not saying in
- 55:58Speaker 4: any form or fashion that Sean McDermott is not a professional.
- 56:01Speaker 4: What the fuck have y'all beaten me over the head
- 56:04Speaker 4: with all of you drought fans who are apologists and
- 56:09Speaker 4: letting us know, Oh man, why would you get away?
- 56:12Speaker 4: Does Sean McDermott. He broke the drought. He doesn't need
- 56:15Speaker 4: dog biscuits, he doesn't wear Clemson helmet. He's running a
- 56:18Speaker 4: great franchise, not wearing you know, not running a freight house.
- 56:23Speaker 2: I got you, I hear you, and I've given him
- 56:25Speaker 2: Miss Flowers. He's a professional.
- 56:28Speaker 4: I understand that he wants to win, but I also
- 56:31Speaker 4: understand that because he hasn't won, I don't.
- 56:34Speaker 2: I don't.
- 56:34Speaker 4: I don't think when he wakes up, and that includes
- 56:37Speaker 4: the twenty twenty five training camp that we're now getting
- 56:41Speaker 4: ready to embark on, I don't think that he thinks that, man,
- 56:45Speaker 4: I mess up this year, this could be it. I
- 56:47Speaker 4: don't even think it enters his his lexicon of thinking
- 56:50Speaker 4: and not.
- 56:51Speaker 3: Ninety plus percent of the time, Sean McDermott's great. He
- 56:54Speaker 3: build a good culture, he runs a good professional football team.
- 56:57Speaker 3: But when it comes down to the game of inches,
- 57:00Speaker 3: he's got to take the inches more seriously, is your point? Yeah, man,
- 57:04Speaker 3: And that takes that takes a different bite. And if
- 57:06Speaker 3: you're comfortable, you're not going to have that different bite.
- 57:09Speaker 3: So at ninety nine percent of the time you're great,
- 57:12Speaker 3: But that one percent, that one inch, we need you
- 57:15Speaker 3: need to be better on and you need to be
- 57:17Speaker 3: anxious to get better on that. You need to. Everyone's
- 57:20Speaker 3: gonna hate me if I don't do this type of vibe.
- 57:23Speaker 4: I am going to leave Nickel City Crew with this.
- 57:26Speaker 4: Tonight we are going to get way deeper into this.
- 57:30Speaker 4: We've got the tip.
- 57:33Speaker 3: Yeah, the cleats, the cleats were clacking. We just had
- 57:36Speaker 3: to get back at the airwaves.
- 57:38Speaker 2: You ain't lying about doing that.
- 57:39Speaker 3: We're running out new balance, new Balance cleats. That's that's
- 57:42Speaker 3: that's for another show, New Balance cleats.
- 57:44Speaker 4: We're running our conditional drills absolutely right. I wonder if
- 57:47Speaker 4: the NFL's go let Joshquard's new Balance.
- 57:49Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, I love it. I
- 57:50Speaker 2: hear you. You did not get anything past me dt.
- 57:53Speaker 2: I hear you, I hear you.
- 57:54Speaker 4: And he's a now a creative director with in part
- 57:57Speaker 4: owner of New Era correct right, something like that, Yeah,
- 58:02Speaker 4: something like that. They're gonna they're gonna have Potato Josh
- 58:04Speaker 4: helmets for their for their reveal.
- 58:06Speaker 2: So listen.
- 58:07Speaker 4: I will leave you guys with this. I appreciate the
- 58:09Speaker 4: show tonight again. Shout out to our guest tonight, our
- 58:13Speaker 4: special guest coach, Marcus Oliver. Check them out again at
- 58:17Speaker 4: Marcus Oliver Underscore m O on Twitter. We did not
- 58:21Speaker 4: try to fool you guys or anything.
- 58:23Speaker 3: Like one of the most underrated sellies in the game
- 58:25Speaker 3: right now, we.
- 58:25Speaker 2: Did that to fool you guys or anything like that.
- 58:28Speaker 4: We shout out to a created director Olivia Nagel, really
- 58:32Speaker 4: really clutch on the promos this week, and we appreciate
- 58:35Speaker 4: over seven hundred people uh DT watching tonight on a
- 58:39Speaker 4: t G.
- 58:39Speaker 2: I have Friday. I know it's Friday.
- 58:41Speaker 4: I know it's not really a lot of sports going on,
- 58:43Speaker 4: but you guys could be doing anything else, and we
- 58:45Speaker 4: really do appreciate you guys tuning in and locking it
- 58:47Speaker 4: with us tonight DT.
- 58:50Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave.
- 58:51Speaker 4: I'm gonna leave you with this, and I want I
- 58:55Speaker 4: want Diyls Mafia, I want Nicol City Crew, just to
- 58:58Speaker 4: just to think about this for just to second and
- 59:00Speaker 4: just listen to what I'm saying and then.
- 59:04Speaker 2: Process it however you want to. I was just on
- 59:06Speaker 2: coast to coast the other night.
- 59:07Speaker 4: You saw me, DT, you saw me shout out to
- 59:09Speaker 4: shout out to Widow and beyond seventy one six. Thank
- 59:11Speaker 4: you guys for having me. We really appreciated it. I
- 59:14Speaker 4: had a ton of fun on Wednesday night. Our coach,
- 59:19Speaker 4: our head coach, Sean McDermott in the playoffs. Now, I
- 59:24Speaker 4: got hit the other.
- 59:25Speaker 2: Night, Oh, Kansas City.
- 59:26Speaker 4: In the regular season, the average seven Like I don't,
- 59:31Speaker 4: I do not care like last seasons game like was
- 59:33Speaker 4: the first game against Kansas City? Like I don't, I
- 59:36Speaker 4: don't care. I watched because I'm a fanatic. But had
- 59:40Speaker 4: I not been a fanatic, you could have told me
- 59:41Speaker 4: the next morning who won the game. I don't care
- 59:43Speaker 4: about regular season. In the postseason, our head coach Sean
- 59:46Speaker 4: McDermott DT. Please know this that he gives up an
- 59:51Speaker 4: average of thirty three points per game in playoff losses.
- 59:53Speaker 2: Now I'm being calm. In addition to that, okay, in.
- 1:00:00Speaker 4: That against the Kansas City Chiefs, which obviously we lost
- 1:00:02Speaker 4: four times, last five years we lost to them. Only
- 1:00:05Speaker 4: other time was that one other anomaly to the Damar
- 1:00:08Speaker 4: Hamley game against against Cincinnati. So I'm giving y'all the
- 1:00:12Speaker 4: Damar Hamley game just against Kansas City. He has given
- 1:00:15Speaker 4: up and his defenses have average giving up thirty five
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: points per game DT thirty thirty five. I think the
- 1:00:22Speaker 4: official numbers like thirty four point eight. I went to
- 1:00:26Speaker 4: Star Point in the country. They taught us in the country.
- 1:00:28Speaker 4: Go ahead and round up thirty five points per game.
- 1:00:31Speaker 4: The Chiefs in their other playoff games against all of
- 1:00:34Speaker 4: the teams not named Buffalo Bill's average twenty five. That's
- 1:00:37Speaker 4: a ten point difference. It's a big fucking view.
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: They could score twenty five, and then against the Bills
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: they scored thirty five.
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: All right, ten points is the big fucking deal in
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: the playoffs.
- 1:00:47Speaker 4: By the way, sorry, because I mean you can go
- 1:00:48Speaker 4: home if you lose that day. So just now, last
- 1:00:54Speaker 4: last stat, last two stats. The Chiefs they average twenty
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: seven points per game against US at minimum, they've never
- 1:01:03Speaker 4: scored less than twenty seven points, and they average thirty
- 1:01:05Speaker 4: five and our losses are four losses. Josh Allen has
- 1:01:09Speaker 4: been the best quarterback Bill's Mafia, the best quarterback nicol
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: City crew in the playoffs since twenty twenty the best
- 1:01:17Speaker 4: twenty five touchdowns, four picks. Twenty five touchdowns. Right there
- 1:01:27Speaker 4: you go, twenty five touchdowns, four picks. If I have
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: nowhere else to look, I don't know where you guys
- 1:01:37Speaker 4: want me. I'm not tired of fighting you guys, because
- 1:01:40Speaker 4: I have the energy to keep fighting you until we
- 1:01:42Speaker 4: win the Super Bowl. So I will fight all of
- 1:01:44Speaker 4: you guys on Twitter. I'll fight the Nauticas, I'll fight
- 1:01:47Speaker 4: all of you guys. I'm not gonna shot you all
- 1:01:49Speaker 4: while out, but like I mean, by jerks, my I
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: was on a space before our show, DT fighting Bill's
- 1:01:56Speaker 4: Mafia fellow members for two hours about Sean McDermott and
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: about the fact that Josh Allen didn't get it done
- 1:02:04Speaker 4: the last two years on the offensive side.
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: Of the ball.
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: Twenty nine points on the road and the playoffs should
- 1:02:10Speaker 4: win you the game. DT that that when Josh Allen
- 1:02:14Speaker 4: clocked out at triple zeros, it was good enough. His
- 1:02:18Speaker 4: he misthrows, but it was good enough. Listen to those stats,
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: thirty five points per game. I can't I don't know,
- 1:02:30Speaker 4: I don't I can't excuse it.
- 1:02:31Speaker 3: Man.
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: I'll let you close it. I'll let you close up. Shot.
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: I can't.
- 1:02:35Speaker 4: I there's nothing else, man. I'm sorry, man, I can't
- 1:02:39Speaker 4: look at you. I can't look at anyone else but you.
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: I'm sorry. You're a defensive coach. I can't. I can't.
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
- 1:02:45Speaker 3: That's a that's a great stat and very eye opening.
- 1:02:48Speaker 3: I mean, thirty five points. If a team scoring thirty
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: five points.
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: On you, they're gonna be it.
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna win, even if Josh Allen's your quarterback,
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: even if you're a boat race team. We scored we
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: scored forty two this year and lost. Granted we had
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: to come back from a big one, but score forty
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: two and lost. That's unheard of when you when your
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: quarterback had six touchdowns? Yes, yes, but that's you know
- 1:03:12Speaker 3: the point of what clicks, what's the difference. And I'll
- 1:03:16Speaker 3: just lay my hat on that what I was saying earlier.
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: He's got to know he's the only one left to blame.
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: How does he react to that? Is it old McDermott
- 1:03:25Speaker 3: of my way the highway? I'm comfortable. I don't think so.
- 1:03:29Speaker 3: Or does he change? We need to get over the hump.
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: I'm the only one to be looked at. I need
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: to get better at the inches. Here we go. Load
- 1:03:36Speaker 3: me up on defense. I'm gonna make these boys pop.
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: We're not letting up thirty five in the playoffs, no more.
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: So, we hope.
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: But that's a big stat, Rob, that's a big stat.
- 1:03:44Speaker 3: I didn't think it was that bad.
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: But shit, I heard that a couple of weeks ago.
- 1:03:48Speaker 3: That's that needs to be the only focus we stop.
- 1:03:52Speaker 3: We need stops in the postseason. We need stops in
- 1:03:57Speaker 3: the postseason.
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: I don't like.
- 1:04:00Speaker 3: Me out a halftime in that Chiefs game. Coming out
- 1:04:02Speaker 3: of halftime, I'm on the porch. I'm getting really wind
- 1:04:05Speaker 3: them back down, getting ready to go. What am I saying?
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: Stop? Score stop?
- 1:04:08Speaker 3: Stop, score stop, stop score stop. They come back after halftime,
- 1:04:13Speaker 3: stop score stop. No more stops, No more stops after that.
- 1:04:19Speaker 3: And we just needed one. We just needed to. You
- 1:04:23Speaker 3: win the game by fourteen points, need more stops. Thirty
- 1:04:25Speaker 3: five points. That's crazy, Rob, that's crazy talk. That helps you.
- 1:04:29Speaker 3: That helps your point, That helps your point.
- 1:04:32Speaker 4: They're not that mcgo's defenses are not bad in the playoffs.
- 1:04:36Speaker 4: They are historically bad and I just I.
- 1:04:41Speaker 3: I think I think that's a fair point. You're building.
- 1:04:43Speaker 3: You're you're getting good at arguing rob, you're getting good
- 1:04:45Speaker 3: at you're getting good at the X argument. Because that's
- 1:04:48Speaker 3: a great point. And and you're gonna get some you know,
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: that's you're gonna get some people. I think to on
- 1:04:53Speaker 3: tonight's show to kind of flip and you know, I'm
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: a lot more moderate in this situation that you.
- 1:04:59Speaker 2: But I also lean you.
- 1:05:01Speaker 3: I also lean your way. I also lean your way,
- 1:05:03Speaker 3: Like I think he's a little too comfortable and needs
- 1:05:05Speaker 3: to be better with the inches and so something like
- 1:05:08Speaker 3: this is gonna get a few more people on your side.
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: Like I said, I hope he realizes he's the only
- 1:05:13Speaker 3: one left to blame. He's got to go out and
- 1:05:15Speaker 3: do it. The excuses as a fan base we've been
- 1:05:17Speaker 3: making are making us look dumb, because then things happen,
- 1:05:21Speaker 3: these excuses aren't there anymore, and we still then there's
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: another one, and then there's another one. Those who are
- 1:05:26Speaker 3: good for making excuses seldom good for anything else.
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: Man.
- 1:05:29Speaker 2: I feel like that all the time, Man, I really do. So.
- 1:05:32Speaker 4: I mean, we don't have to keep beating the dead horse.
- 1:05:34Speaker 4: This has been a wonderful episode. I really really appreciate
- 1:05:37Speaker 4: your time tonight, DT. You know, like we just said,
- 1:05:40Speaker 4: we back man out again, Marcus Oliver. I appreciate everybody,
- 1:05:46Speaker 4: mane over eight hundred people now watching us as we
- 1:05:48Speaker 4: close out tonight, and we appreciate you guys and you
- 1:05:52Speaker 4: spending time out of your day to just come on
- 1:05:55Speaker 4: and let's let's let's talk the ball man. I I
- 1:05:57Speaker 4: and I'm being sincere as much shit as I talk
- 1:06:00Speaker 4: about Sean McDermott. I did like hearing from coach Oliver DT,
- 1:06:04Speaker 4: and I think you were sincere in your analysis of
- 1:06:07Speaker 4: it as well.
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: Like I, I do like hearing that Ed Oliver is pissed.
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: I do like hearing that Oliver wants it.
- 1:06:14Speaker 4: Nothing else because that that that's what I can that's
- 1:06:18Speaker 4: what I can relate to As a fan.
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: I'm a fan. Ed Oliver won't play for the Bills forever.
- 1:06:21Speaker 4: He's gonna be going one day, he'll get too old,
- 1:06:23Speaker 4: and the same way Bruce Smith got too old, and
- 1:06:26Speaker 4: and you know, Thurman.
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: Got to like, they're all they're all age out. We stay,
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: the fans stay.
- 1:06:33Speaker 4: So I've conceded to the fact that Sean mc excuse
- 1:06:36Speaker 4: me that Terry Begoula is not going to make any changes.
- 1:06:38Speaker 4: We've talked about it at nauseum over multiple episodes over
- 1:06:42Speaker 4: the last couple of seasons about Terry Cooler.
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: Pull the car over Dad. We've We've done We've done it.
- 1:06:46Speaker 4: All DT in respect to Terry Begoola, So I'm resigned
- 1:06:49Speaker 4: to the fact that he will not because of the
- 1:06:51Speaker 4: Sabers in part and his ineptitude with that organization. He's
- 1:06:54Speaker 4: not going to rock the vote here at one Bill's Drive.
- 1:06:57Speaker 4: I get it, I understand it. I do not think
- 1:07:00Speaker 4: that Sean McDermott deserves to be Josh Allen's head coach
- 1:07:04Speaker 4: forever because.
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: They broke the drought.
- 1:07:07Speaker 4: I I that's where I'll separate with the portion of
- 1:07:11Speaker 4: Bill's mafia and we'll go down our separate roads.
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: Hopefully we meet at Niagara Square with.
- 1:07:17Speaker 4: The rain, and if it saw McDermott, I'll shut the
- 1:07:20Speaker 4: fuck up and I'll never talk to you about him
- 1:07:21Speaker 4: ever again.
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: I love it.
- 1:07:23Speaker 4: Listen hit him with a go Bills, DT, quick, quick, quick, quick,
- 1:07:26Speaker 4: quick tailgate report.
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: We are back into it, DT, We're back We're back
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: into it. I mean, oh, Bills, yep. Go.
- 1:07:33Speaker 3: Bill's getting into my getting into my summer here. It's
- 1:07:36Speaker 3: it's been been a steaming one. I'm sure even steam here,
- 1:07:38Speaker 3: Donna Charlotte, Man, it's been a steamy we my bitch
- 1:07:41Speaker 3: for months. I'm out playing golf in May. I'm seeing
- 1:07:43Speaker 3: my breath. This is bs. Why do we live here?
- 1:07:46Speaker 3: And then now it's been ninety five degrees for like
- 1:07:50Speaker 3: three weeks in a row, and so it's a little steamy.
- 1:07:52Speaker 3: But Tailgate report, you know, trying to keep the build up,
- 1:07:56Speaker 3: just like the players, build up my excitement until we
- 1:07:58Speaker 3: get to September seven at eight thirty pm Sunday night ball,
- 1:08:02Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson Company come in, build up peak. Then that's
- 1:08:06Speaker 3: what my goal is through the summer, get a little
- 1:08:08Speaker 3: golf in. We got the Italian Fest right on hurdles,
- 1:08:11Speaker 3: so that's that's what's popping, messing up all the traffic
- 1:08:14Speaker 3: in my neighborhood. But it's gonna be good training camp.
- 1:08:18Speaker 3: Excited to keep looking at the notes every day like
- 1:08:21Speaker 3: it's gonna make or break the season. I read all
- 1:08:24Speaker 3: the notes and oh who did good today? Who caught
- 1:08:26Speaker 3: a touchdown versus air to pump me up? But yeah,
- 1:08:30Speaker 3: it's a good summer, man, We're chilling out. Got some
- 1:08:32Speaker 3: big things coming up in August. We've got some big
- 1:08:34Speaker 3: things coming for the show this year. So really excited
- 1:08:37Speaker 3: to be back and always good to be here with you, man.
- 1:08:40Speaker 3: So looking looking forward to another beautiful season.
- 1:08:43Speaker 4: I can't wait again. Officially, season five is already kicked off.
- 1:08:46Speaker 4: He kicked off right there in the Craft. So, I mean,
- 1:08:49Speaker 4: we're here, we've been here, but we took off for
- 1:08:51Speaker 4: the summer. I've got kids, and you know, kings and princesses.
- 1:08:54Speaker 4: I've got five of them, so you know, I've got
- 1:08:56Speaker 4: plenty on my plate. But I cannot wait for the
- 1:08:59Speaker 4: home opener. I cannot wait for the game down here.
- 1:09:01Speaker 4: Carolina no Dt will be coming down. Our creative director,
- 1:09:06Speaker 4: Olivia Nago, Nigel will be coming down.
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: We can't wait.
- 1:09:09Speaker 4: We'll be excited and pumped up for that as well.
- 1:09:12Speaker 4: But listen out there, nicol City Crew, Bill's Mafia. Listen
- 1:09:17Speaker 4: out there, listen spread love not hate. We saw some
- 1:09:20Speaker 4: icons go down this week. I mean Hulk Ogan Ozzi
- 1:09:24Speaker 4: for those metal heads, and feel Huxtable for my you know,
- 1:09:28Speaker 4: for my faction, for the people of my culture. I mean,
- 1:09:31Speaker 4: you know, crazy, crazy, crazy week man. You never know
- 1:09:35Speaker 4: when it's your time, so listen out there, spread love
- 1:09:37Speaker 4: not hate. These were my bills, Thoughts that Out Loud
- 1:09:41Speaker 4: hit them with a gold Bills DT hit them.
- 1:09:44Speaker 3: Go Bills, Go bils.
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: I love it, I love it, I love it, I
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: love it.