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- 0:35The website COSS Financial dot com that's coss k l aa S Financial dot com
- 0:41and joining us is joining us this week. I think I had a problem
- 0:44with saying that last week as well. CJ Closs and Forrest Ross. CJ.
- 0:48How you doing this morning? I'm doing great? How are you shocking?
- 0:51Doing really well? Did I have a prom say joined? I think
- 0:53I had that same? I think you did. I did? I think
- 0:55you did. I'll work on that during We've got next week off with the
- 0:58holiday, but I'll work great to talk with you my friend Forrest, welcome
- 1:02back. How have you been? Thank you been doing wonderful. It's great
- 1:04to have both of you along. Forest, great to have you back on
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- 1:30That's k l a as Financial dot com. There telephon number six oh eight
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- 1:37know you appointment at Colss Financial. It will be complementary to you again their
- 1:41number six oh eight four four two five six three seven. Since we've got
- 1:46Ross long, I'm guessing we're going to be talking retirement plans. We're gonna
- 1:48get to those details in just a moment. But first, before we get
- 1:51rolling on this week's conversation, let's take a look back at last week's show.
- 1:55Of course, each and every week we do the class quiz question a
- 1:57week, and this week will be no exception a chance for you don't want
- 2:00a twenty five dollars gift card to read Robin a little bit later on in
- 2:04this program. Listen closely. Typically both the question answer to the class quiz
- 2:07question the league come up during the program, and looking back at last week's
- 2:12show and last week's class quiz question the week, let's take a look at
- 2:15what the question and answer from last week's show was. Yeah. First off,
- 2:20thanks to everyone for listening each week and for participating in our closs quiz
- 2:23question of the week. It's it's kind of a fun little thing we came
- 2:25up with a number of years ago to to both drive engagement and to help
- 2:30people win some prizes. So last week our question was at what age can
- 2:38Americans normally qualify for Medicare coverage? And it was a multiple choice question.
- 2:43We said is it age sixty five or sixty seven? The correct answer was
- 2:49age sixty five and our winner from last week was Linda of Sox City,
- 2:53Wisconsin, So you too can be a winner. Just listen closely this week,
- 2:59and at the end of the pro Graham Sean I'll read off our question
- 3:00for this week you have a chance to win again a twenty five dollars gift
- 3:04card to Red Robin with the Glass Quizqunch League. So this week, I
- 3:07know we're going to be talking about some ideas for folks. Maybe you own
- 3:12a business, have some employees and of course they want to retire, provide
- 3:16retirement benefits for what CJ can we learn today? Yeah, So every week
- 3:22our topics on Money in Motion typically are for the benefit of individuals trying to
- 3:27plan out their own retirements, and really I should say individuals or families.
- 3:30However, we do also realize that some of our listeners own companies and are
- 3:35constantly in the throes of either creating or managing a retirement plan for employees that
- 3:40hopefully is not only cognizant of cost, but also works to incentivize the employees
- 3:46that you employ to stay with your company for many years. So with us
- 3:52today, as you already heard, is Forrest Ross. He is our director
- 3:54of retirement Plans, and so Forest is going to kind of go through some
- 4:00of the things he's observed over time, some of the critical elements that employers
- 4:04should be thinking about in establishing their company sponsored retirement plans or what are known
- 4:11as employer sponsored retirement plans. So for us, can you give us a
- 4:14starting point for employers who are listening about some important things to make sure they
- 4:17have in place for their employees. Yeah, thanks, CJY. And for
- 4:23those people that are listening today that are perhaps owners of a company or perhaps
- 4:27in leadership positions in a company like controller, HR, director or CFO,
- 4:33we understand that you want to reward your employees for their hard work and time
- 4:40and talents that they give your company. And a part of that is providing
- 4:44them with a competitive benefits package. And a piece of that benefits package is
- 4:49usually a four to one K plan. And today I just want to highlight
- 4:54a couple of important things for you, as what we call the plan sponsor
- 5:00or employer should be thinking about if you want to have a successful retirement plan
- 5:03for your employees. And the first thing I want to mention is plan design.
- 5:09Plan design is really important, but there's lots of flexibility in plan design.
- 5:14And what I'm talking about that what I'm really talking about is when our
- 5:17employees eligible for the plan, what type of investment options are available in the
- 5:24plan? Is their employer contributions what kind of distribution options are there. Again,
- 5:30there's a lot of flexibility around these topics, but it can make a
- 5:34big difference in whether people really take advantage of the benefit plan or not,
- 5:41depending on how they're structured. For example, auto enrollment is a feature that
- 5:45we've seen become very popular just in the last couple of years, and it's
- 5:48a really good tool because what the auto enrollment feature does is an employee,
- 5:56once they're eligible for the plan, will automatically be rolled in the plan at
- 6:00a predetermined contribution rate unless they opt out. So the default is they're going
- 6:08to be enrolled in the plan unless the participants opt out. And what we
- 6:12see is that makes people get into the plans sooner, participate sooner, and
- 6:16also participate at higher rates, which leads to them having a larger balance down
- 6:21the road. Another area that I want to talk about here is just the
- 6:28cost of a plan. There are costs associated with operating a plan, administrative
- 6:33cost, investment costs, and those costs can be paid by the employer er
- 6:39or passed along to the employee. Can You have lots of flexibility with how
- 6:43those fees are paid, but it's important that plan sponsor employer benchmark those fees
- 6:50and expenses from a fiduciary standpoint to make sure that they're reasonable. So compare
- 6:57your fees and expenses compared to other plans of similar size, usually ever two
- 7:01to three years, again to make sure that those costs are reasonable. But
- 7:06also it's interesting that there have been some recent legislation that has allowed for tax
- 7:14credits to be available to employers that are either starting new four oh and K
- 7:19plans or for employers that add certain features for example at auto enrollment that I
- 7:25mentioned earlier. If you have an existing retirement plan today and you add that
- 7:30auto enrollment feature, you actually could be eligible for some tax credits for up
- 7:34to three years. Wow, that is really good news to hear, really
- 7:39great information from Forrest Ross and CJ. Closs, our retirement planning professionals from
- 7:43Coss Financial. You can learn more about Class Financial on their website Coss Financial
- 7:46dot com. That's k l Aas Financial dot Com. Delphan number for the
- 7:50office right here in Madison six eight four four two five six three seven.
- 7:56No charge for that initial get to know you appointment at Class Financial. It
- 8:00will be complementary to you. Again, they're number six, so eight four,
- 8:01four, two, five six three seven. So forrest, if I'm
- 8:05an employer, how much should I consider then contributing to the retirement plan.
- 8:11Yeah, so this is an important area for employers plan sponsors to really consider
- 8:15very carefully. And let me start off by saying you're not required to provide
- 8:18an employer contribution. You can set up a four ROH one K plan and
- 8:22only have it set up so that employee contributions go into it. However,
- 8:26we would say that if you really want to provide a good benefit for your
- 8:31employee ease, you should consider some type of employer contribution, and those can
- 8:35really take two different primi primary ways it can be implemented. The first one
- 8:43is through what we would call a three percent non elective contribution. So with
- 8:48that particular provision, an employer is going to make a three percent contribution of
- 8:54wages for all eligible employees, and the employees are going to get that contribution,
- 9:00whether they make any of their own contributions to the plan or not.
- 9:05The other common feature is through what we would call matching formula, and there's
- 9:09lots of different matching formulas that you can have in four one K plans these
- 9:13days, but The bottom line is that an employee doesn't get the employee er
- 9:20contribution unless they put some of their own money into the plan. So,
- 9:24for example, a very common matching formula would be one hundred percent of the
- 9:30first three percent. So what that means is that if an employee contributes three
- 9:35percent of their wages every pay period, then the employer is going to match
- 9:39that dollar for dollar with another three percent. But if the employee does not
- 9:46contribute, then they're not going to get any of that matching contributions. They
- 9:50have to put some of their own money in to get that matching formula.
- 9:54Talking this morning with CJ. Kloss and Forrest Ross. They are retirement professionals
- 9:58from Class Financial. Of course you can learn more online. Six oh eight
- 10:01four four two five six three seven. That's six eight four four two five
- 10:05six three seven. No charge for that initial get to know you appointment deck
- 10:07Loss Financial. It will be complimentary to you. Again. They're numbers six
- 10:11oh eight four four two five six three seven. Join us on the air
- 10:15this morning six oh eight three two one thirteen ten. That's six eight three
- 10:18two one thirteen ten. We'll get you right on the air with CJ and
- 10:20Forrest as money in motion with Class Financial is here for you and CG.
- 10:24I know you've got some You've got some questions you want to ask as well,
- 10:28don't you see J Yeah, you know, as Forrest was just kind
- 10:30of talking through that that prior section. What a lot of employers will hear
- 10:35about is well, I've heard if I set up before one K plan,
- 10:39you know, there's complications around testing and highly highly compensated employees. And if
- 10:46if I really want to benefit some of my salespeople, then I I you
- 10:50know, I I they end up getting money back at the end of the
- 10:52year. So they've heard these nightmares of the testing that occurs. Not not
- 10:56everybody, but some have heard this. And so what Forest was ref and
- 11:00seeing there prior is that often these matching formulas or three percent non electives,
- 11:05these can fit into what are called safe harbor contribution formulas. And by doing
- 11:11by building your plan this way, and when we say building your plan this
- 11:13way, building it with the assumption that you are doing this to incentivize people
- 11:18to stay with your company and to give them a good benefits package. If
- 11:24you build it the right way, then you typically pass the majority of the
- 11:28testing automatically. If you don't, then the testing gets challenging because if you
- 11:35say, hey, well I just kind of slept together afore when Gabe Bland,
- 11:37if you guys want to contribute, you can. The problem can be
- 11:41if the wrong people contribute, to the wrong people being the only the highly
- 11:45commed, then they do a testing and not everybody can contribute maximums. Sometimes
- 11:52you have money going back to people and it becomes a bit of a mess.
- 11:54So this is where people like Forest can be a huge benefit to employers
- 11:58because he will help you build a plan in the right way, so that
- 12:03then number one, you're incentivizing people the right way, but number two,
- 12:07you don't end up with a mess at the end of the year when they
- 12:09go to do the testing. They call it the ADP testing. But okay,
- 12:13there you go. Now I know that for us there's many fiduciary considerations
- 12:18as well for employers in the administration of these plans. So what should employers
- 12:22know about their fiduciary duties? Yeah, So, as a plan sponsor of
- 12:28a four to zeroe K plan, there's really several things that employeers should be
- 12:31thinking about from a fiduciary standpoint, and the first one is that as far
- 12:37as the investment options that they're offering in the plan, it should be a
- 12:43diverse list of different investment choices that participants had to pick from. There should
- 12:48be large cap, small cap, international funds, bonds, target date funds.
- 12:54Again, participants need to have the ability to build out a diversified portfolio.
- 13:00But then also more importantly, the plan sponsor, from a fiduciary standpoint,
- 13:05is required to oversee and manage and monitor those investment options and make sure
- 13:11that they're performing up to a certain benchmark or standard. And if a fund
- 13:16option is not doing what it's supposed to do, then it may be removed
- 13:20and replaced with another investment fund option of similar risk or investment category. So
- 13:28it's also important that when a plan sponsor is managing and monitoring these investment options,
- 13:37that they're doing it from a frame of mind that they're doing it for
- 13:41what's the best interest of all employees. They're not just doing it from the
- 13:46side of well, this is what's best for us as management or as a
- 13:50certain select group of employees. You need to do it's best for all employees
- 13:56or all participants of the plan. And next I want to touch on employee
- 14:01engagement. You know, as an employer, if you're taking the time and
- 14:05effort and energy to provide a four oh one K plan to your employees,
- 14:11you really want to make sure that they're appreciating that benefit, taking advantage of
- 14:16it, and really engaging in a way that they can hopefully successfully plan for
- 14:22their futures. So financial education is really a very important piece of that puzzle,
- 14:28and we really believe that the financial advisor is an important part of providing
- 14:35that financial education. And that education can be in the form of workshops,
- 14:41on site visits where they're meeting one on one with your employees, podcasts,
- 14:46videos, a lot of different things can be provided. But it's important that
- 14:50the financial advisor is reaching out to your employees and connecting with them no matter
- 14:56where they are in their careers, no matter if they're just starting or if
- 15:00they're getting close to retiring. It's important that you're able to connect with them
- 15:03at any point in their careers and really engaging with them to make sure that
- 15:09they can plan for their futures and just really have a successful nest egg built
- 15:16up for them when they're ready to retire. Talking this morning with our retirement
- 15:20planning professionals from Class Financial, Forest Ross and Cjlass. Again they come to
- 15:24us from Class Financial. You can learn more on class financial dot com.
- 15:26That's class klaas financial dot com. Great website to learn more about COSS Financial
- 15:33the team. They're separate divisions that they can help you or if you're an
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- 16:07oh eight four four two five six three seven, So employer sponsor four oh
- 16:11one K how popular? How common are the United States? We're gonna get
- 16:14some of those details next as Money in Motion with Coss Financial continues here thirteen
- 16:18ten w IBI joined by our retirement planning professionals C J. Closs and Forest
- 16:26Ross. Of course, they come to us from Class Financial, the website
- 16:29Coss financial dot com that's Coss k l a as Financial dot com and their
- 16:33telephone number six so eight four four two five six three seven no charge for
- 16:37the initial gets no you appointment deck Loss Financial. It will be complementary to
- 16:41you talking this week about employee employer retirement plans and what needs to go into
- 16:48them and some of the planning that goes into them and forests. Just before
- 16:51the break, we started talking a little bit about about if you're as a
- 16:56sponsor of one of these, some of the duties that are that are there.
- 17:00What about just kind of the commonality of these these employers sponsored for oh
- 17:03one k plans in the United States, How common are they and what do
- 17:07we need to know when it comes to changes you know, secure two point
- 17:12zero that act I know changed a lot of things. Does have an effect
- 17:15on your retirement space plan, your plan pay retirement space excuse me, yeah,
- 17:21thanks, Jean. So to answer the first question, right now,
- 17:23in the United States, about four in ten workers have access to a four
- 17:29to oh one K plan through their employer, and it's interesting that really industry
- 17:33people would say that's not high enough. We need to work to get that
- 17:37number higher. That's why you're seeing some legislation passed in and these tax credits
- 17:42to encourage employers to actually provide more of these plans to employees. And it's
- 17:48interesting that some states are actually mandating that employers provide retirement plans to their employees.
- 17:55For example, Illinois, just to ourself, they have a state mandate
- 17:59that says that if you're a company that has more than five employees and you've
- 18:03been in business for two or more years, that you either have to provide
- 18:08your own company retirement plan or you have to opt into the state plan.
- 18:14So we're seeing more and more of these about twelve states right now have those
- 18:17type of requirements. So it's important that we start making it available to more
- 18:22and more people. Even in terms of the answer to the second question,
- 18:26there have been a couple of different legislative packages that have passed in the recent
- 18:30years. One is Secure Act and then the other one is Secure Act two
- 18:34point zero, which was passed in December of twenty twenty two, and through
- 18:40these two different legislative packages. There are over ninety provisions in them that were
- 18:47designed to modernize the retirement system, promote additional savings, ease some of the
- 18:52administrative burdens with providing these plans. But some of those provisions are required and
- 19:00have to be adopted, and some of those provisions are optional and the plan
- 19:06sponsor has a choice to either include them in their plan or not. So
- 19:11that's why it's important that an employer or plan sponsor have a group of trusted
- 19:17professionals that they can lean on, like a third party administrator, record keeper,
- 19:22financial advisor, a team that can help them wade through all of these
- 19:26choices and help them determine which ones should we implement for the benefit of our
- 19:32employees, because really, at the end of the day, ultimately what an
- 19:37employer is trying to do is they're trying to provide this important benefit to their
- 19:41employees to get them to engage, to think about their futures, set aside
- 19:47some money so they can grow a nest egg for their future. Really nice
- 19:52thing to offer for employees from their employers, and of course making sure that
- 19:56all the steps are being followed properly. Very important stuff as we talk with
- 20:00Forrest Ross and CJ. Closs, our retirement planning professionals from COSS Financial.
- 20:03The website Coss financial dot com. That's k l a A S Financial dot
- 20:07com and their telephone number six so eight four four two five six three seven.
- 20:11Want hold on to the telephone number. Coming up the next segment,
- 20:14we'll talk a little bit more about employers and maybe looking to reviewer revam retirement
- 20:19plans with the details from Forest and CG on that. We'll also do the
- 20:22Coss Quiz cluesch League all of that next here on Money in Motion thirteen ten
- 20:27WIBA talking with our retirement planning professionals from Class Financial. Join this week by
- 20:34CJ. Closs and Forrest Ross. Of course the website for COSS Financial it
- 20:38is Cossfinancial dot com. That's k l a A S Financial dot com.
- 20:42They're telephone number six oh eight four four two five six three seven. No
- 20:48charge for the financial gets to know you appoyment TCH COSS Financial. It will
- 20:51be complementary to you again their number six oh eight four four two five six
- 20:56three seven. Talking this week about about employee or sponsored plans and some of
- 21:02the things when it comes to benefit plans that employers need to know about and
- 21:06forrest. If you're an employer looking to review or revamp your retirement plan for
- 21:10your employees, how can they find out about your services? Yeah, so
- 21:14you could start by either just making a call or email to our office here
- 21:17Coss Financial in Fitchburg, or visiting our website is another great way to get
- 21:22started. But we have a whole team of people here and a lot of
- 21:26tools and resources available that we can help you really review what you currently have
- 21:32and decide if there are any things that maybe should be added or changed to
- 21:36your plan to make it more successful and beneficial for your employees. Great opportunity
- 21:41there as we talk with Forest Ross and CJ. Closs, our retirement planning
- 21:44professionals from Class Financial speaking of making contact their telephone number six SO eight four
- 21:48four two five six three seven. No charge for the initial gets to know
- 21:52your employment at Coss Financial. It will be complimentary to you again the office
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- 22:00financial dot com that's Coss k l Aasfinancial dot com. Great website and great
- 22:04resource to learn more about Class Financial and of course as we talk with CJ
- 22:10and Forrest. People are reminding, oh yeah, you've got the clausquiz question
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- 22:32to Red Robin. This week's closs quiz question week is this true or false?
- 22:37The two most common forms of employer contributions into a four to oh one
- 22:41k plan include non a non elective three percent contribution or a matching formula true
- 22:48or false. Telephone number six oh eight four four two five six three seven.
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- 23:00In six o eight four four two five six three seven. CJ. Forrest
- 23:03always great chatting with both of you guys, enjoy this beautiful day. Thanks
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