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Did Dylan Avery Really Change How We See 9/11? · Classic Metal Show

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SPEAKER_00: Hey, I'm Danny Rexon of Craigslist and you're watching CMS TV.
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SPEAKER_00: All right,
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SPEAKER_00: it's Chris Akin with all the news,
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SPEAKER_00: and our next guest up here on the show today,
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SPEAKER_00: a guy has probably made,
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SPEAKER_00: I'm going to guess and say,
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SPEAKER_00: this guy has made a movie that has been seen possibly by more people
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SPEAKER_00: than any other person,
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SPEAKER_00: any other movie in the history of movie making,
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SPEAKER_00: with over 150 million views on the various internet sites, and I'm sure...
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SPEAKER_00: All over the world, people have seen it.
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SPEAKER_00: Everybody has talked about it.
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SPEAKER_00: Of course, I'm talking about the Loose Change movies.
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SPEAKER_00: Filmmaker Dylan Avery is with us today to talk a little bit of 9-11 conspiracy
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SPEAKER_00: and talk about his new movie, Loose Change, American Coup.
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SPEAKER_00: So, Dylan, welcome to the show.
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SPEAKER_00: Chris, thanks for having me.
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SPEAKER_00: Sure, man.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, Dylan,
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SPEAKER_00: as I told you as you and I were emailing back and forth setting this up,
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SPEAKER_00: I am a fan of what you do.
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SPEAKER_00: I certainly think that, like a lot of people today, everybody's eyes need to be open to...
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SPEAKER_00: At least to the thoughts of the fact that everything is not being told.
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SPEAKER_00: And I mean,
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SPEAKER_00: in all fairness, I mean,
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SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you,
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SPEAKER_00: there are things in your movie in Loose Change that I don't always agree with,
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SPEAKER_00: which I'm sure you probably run into a lot.
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SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of stuff that I do totally agree with you with.
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SPEAKER_00: But ultimately,
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SPEAKER_00: I think what Loose Change was designed to do was not necessarily convince everybody
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SPEAKER_00: of every point as much as make people open their eyes to the fact
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SPEAKER_00: that You know what,
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SPEAKER_00: it wasn't just coincidence that two planes hit in New York and another one
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SPEAKER_00: in Pennsylvania and another one in Washington.
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SPEAKER_00: Is that a pretty good summary of what you were trying to say?
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SPEAKER_02: I think it's fairly accurate.
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SPEAKER_02: You know,
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SPEAKER_02: as you said,
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SPEAKER_02: it's never been about saying that the film has all the answers or that it's
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SPEAKER_02: the Bible of the truth movement, as some people have tried to accuse it of being.
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SPEAKER_02: It's always been,
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SPEAKER_02: as you said,
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SPEAKER_02: about merely getting people to open their eyes and realize that there's
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SPEAKER_02: A large amount of things about that day that simply don't add up.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you've had a chance to actually see American Coup yet,
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SPEAKER_02: but I definitely feel it's the most solid addition.
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SPEAKER_02: I feel a very fitting send-off to this series.
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SPEAKER_02: I really think it sums up all the years of hard work and research and things
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SPEAKER_02: that I've learned, people I've talked to.
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SPEAKER_02: I feel like it's a very fitting send-off to everything that I had to go through.
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SPEAKER_00: Right on, man.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, with American Coup,
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SPEAKER_00: I'll be honest,
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SPEAKER_00: I have not seen it yet,
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SPEAKER_00: but from everything that I've read about it,
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SPEAKER_00: it almost sounds like you've tried to take the events of 9-11 and maybe portray them
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SPEAKER_00: as almost a continuation of events that have happened throughout world history.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, things like the Reichstein Fire, as an example, you know...
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SPEAKER_00: And it almost sounded like you were trying to correlate, well,
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SPEAKER_00: this is what happened with that government,
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SPEAKER_00: and this is what the result was,
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SPEAKER_00: and now here's what happened at 9-11, and this is the result.
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SPEAKER_00: Is that what you're trying to do with American Coup?
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SPEAKER_02: More or less.
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SPEAKER_02: That's what the opening of the film details.
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SPEAKER_02: It provides the historical precedent that was somewhat lacking from
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SPEAKER_02: the previous editions, which people had told us to include.
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SPEAKER_02: You know,
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SPEAKER_02: information which had been in,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: a lot of other previous films by other filmmakers, which we'd never covered.
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SPEAKER_02: And, you know,
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SPEAKER_02: I really think it opens up people's eyes to the possibility and,
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SPEAKER_02: you know, the kind of things that really go on behind the scenes.
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SPEAKER_02: And I think one of the most beautiful additions to the American coup addition is
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SPEAKER_02: the addition of the Manhattan Project and all the work and research
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SPEAKER_03: and secrecy
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SPEAKER_03: that went into that.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, this was the development of the atomic bomb,
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SPEAKER_03: which ended up taking at least 200,000 lives confirmed.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, not to mention the sick,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: the radiation poisoning, the damage to Hiroshima and Nagasaki's infrastructure.
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SPEAKER_02: Simply the casualties alone and the amount of secrecy that went into that project.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean,
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SPEAKER_02: Vice President Harry Truman didn't even become aware of the Manhattan Project until
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SPEAKER_02: after he took office.
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SPEAKER_02: This is the Vice President.
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SPEAKER_02: So, you know,
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SPEAKER_02: it's astounding to me that some people can say,
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SPEAKER_02: you know, the government can't keep secrets.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, the government by and large and as a whole,
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SPEAKER_02: I'm sure it cannot keep secrets,
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SPEAKER_02: but a very tight-knit group of people,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: the majority of which I'm sure we don't even know exists,
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SPEAKER_02: that Theoretically would have planned this operation.
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SPEAKER_02: Those people are good at keeping secrets and the reason they're good at it
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SPEAKER_02: because we don't even know that these people exist.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm very hesitant to get into terms like Illuminati or New World Order
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SPEAKER_02: because they're very polarizing terms.
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SPEAKER_02: I can't prove it.
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SPEAKER_02: I certainly can't prove that there's a shadowy organization that makes all decisions
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SPEAKER_02: in the world, but at the same time I certainly wouldn't be surprised.
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SPEAKER_02: And I also don't believe that George Bush himself had anything to do with
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SPEAKER_02: the orchestration or authorization of the attacks, whichever it may be.
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SPEAKER_02: I think as with all governments and with all presidencies,
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SPEAKER_02: a large amount of decisions are made by people that we don't ever see.
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SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, man.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, man,
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SPEAKER_00: it's interesting that you say that because that was actually one of
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SPEAKER_00: the places I was going to go.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm going to pull back a little bit to loose change vinyl cut a little bit.
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SPEAKER_00: And one of the things that jumped out at me was you went into great detail
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SPEAKER_00: about talking about the quality of air and how after 9-11,
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SPEAKER_00: how the air was pretty toxic for people,
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SPEAKER_00: but yet the The administration basically put it out there and changed documentation
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SPEAKER_00: and did everything they could to say, okay, it's not toxic, everything's good to go.
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SPEAKER_00: And you really kind of pointed the finger at the administration.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you really think that people like Christy Todd Whitman and Condoleezza Rice
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SPEAKER_00: and basically the administration truthfully said that the air was clean
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SPEAKER_00: when they knew that it was deadly?
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, the thing that's documented by those news clips in Final Cut is that
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SPEAKER_02: the White
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SPEAKER_03: House directly changed the press releases, and this is documented fact.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, they had the releases before and after, and it's very clear what the White House did.
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SPEAKER_03: And, you know,
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SPEAKER_03: the buck stopped at Christine Todd Whitman,
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SPEAKER_03: and from what I've heard from John Field,
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SPEAKER_03: who runs the Field Good Foundation, which is, you know, pretty much the chief.
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SPEAKER_03: Foundation responsible right now for keeping the first responders' lights on
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SPEAKER_03: because we're still fighting to get legislation through
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SPEAKER_03: that provides financial assistance for these people.
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SPEAKER_03: So, I mean, I've spoken with John Spiel extensively on this topic,
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SPEAKER_03: and I've spoken with a variety of first responders, too.
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SPEAKER_03: And, I mean, the buck stops at Condoleezza Rice and Christy Todd Whitman.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's the bottom line.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, Condoleezza Rice,
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SPEAKER_03: it's very hard to find any official ties to the decision,
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SPEAKER_03: but from what I'm hearing, that's where it ultimately...
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SPEAKER_03: That's what it ultimately came down to.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, the bottom line, man,
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SPEAKER_03: is that these people have absolutely no value for human life,
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SPEAKER_03: whether it's overseas or domestic.
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SPEAKER_03: They just simply don't care.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, these people have been doing what they do for a very long time.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld are no strangers to politics.
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SPEAKER_03: They've been around for previous administrations.
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SPEAKER_03: Hell, man, I mean,
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SPEAKER_03: even now, Dick Cheney can't stop getting on TV talking about how unsafe we are.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, you want to talk about terrorism.
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SPEAKER_03: And you want to talk about putting fear in the American people,
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's all Dick Cheney does.
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SPEAKER_03: By getting on TV occasionally and saying, oh, well, we're still not safe.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean,
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SPEAKER_03: it's just appalling to me the amount of arrogance these people have that they can,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: essentially steal two elections,
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SPEAKER_03: launch two illegal wars that were never officially authorized by Congress,
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SPEAKER_03: which is illegal by definition, slaughter an untold million of innocent people.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, the list of atrocities committed by these people goes on,
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SPEAKER_03: and the simple arrogance that they have to get back on TV with a new administration
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SPEAKER_03: and say, by the way, we're still not safe, it just boggles the mind.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, again,
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SPEAKER_03: these people have zero regard for the average American person,
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SPEAKER_03: and it's astounding to me that people can still try to argue that.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, these are people that,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: without zero second thought launched in a legal war in Iraq
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SPEAKER_03: that they knew was not justified in the widespread majority of not only
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SPEAKER_03: the American public side, but the whole world.
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SPEAKER_03: The protests that took place in the early months of 2003 were unprecedented.
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SPEAKER_03: You had millions of people all across the world,
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SPEAKER_03: people who had never been to America or Iraq protesting the war because they knew of
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SPEAKER_03: the implications.
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SPEAKER_03: I was against the war before it was cool.
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SPEAKER_00: Sure, sure, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_00: So then do you think that now, I mean,
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SPEAKER_00: obviously,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: now the new administration is in there and I agree with you that,
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SPEAKER_00: you know, it's time on both sides almost really.
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SPEAKER_00: It's time for Dick Cheney to get off the news and anybody involved with the Bush administration.
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SPEAKER_00: It's time for them to go away.
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SPEAKER_00: It's time for the Obama administration to step up and do what they're going to do.
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SPEAKER_00: But ultimately,
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SPEAKER_00: do you think that when you look at the Obama administration and you look at
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SPEAKER_00: the direct pointing of,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: I'll call it populist to be polite to the president,
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SPEAKER_00: but populist,
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SPEAKER_00: socialist,
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SPEAKER_00: whatever you want to call it,
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SPEAKER_00: it's almost like it's the furthering of the agenda that a lot of what happened
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SPEAKER_00: after 9-11 caused.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you see that?
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: I can't say that I'm a supporter of him.
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SPEAKER_03: I was like, wow,
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SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, Dylan,
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SPEAKER_00: obviously your history,
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SPEAKER_00: at least your public history,
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SPEAKER_00: is certainly focused on 9-11,
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SPEAKER_00: but as I'm positive and from talking to you just now,
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SPEAKER_00: I know you're obviously staying abreast of what's going on now.
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SPEAKER_00: When you look at Oh yeah, we do this all the time, he said.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you see this as just another administration,
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SPEAKER_00: almost test running,
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SPEAKER_00: to see where the next 9-11 is going to come from,
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SPEAKER_00: or what angle they can get it done with?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I mean,
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SPEAKER_03: for all we know, I mean,
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SPEAKER_03: the Christmas Day bombing could have actually been much worse,
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SPEAKER_03: and it could have been because of either the guy with Lee Moron, which,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: it's funny,
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SPEAKER_03: they have a,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: they have a habit of recruiting people for these operations that aren't exactly
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SPEAKER_03: the brightest bulbs in the bunch,
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SPEAKER_03: and I mean, like,
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SPEAKER_03: You know,
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SPEAKER_03: the people that were hired to drive the truck bomb in the garage
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SPEAKER_03: the World Trade Center in 93, they were literally retarded.
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SPEAKER_03: So, I mean, it's weird how they always find these mental misfits to pull off these jobs.
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SPEAKER_03: So I'm wondering how much worse this attack was supposed to have been.
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SPEAKER_03: And again,
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SPEAKER_03: as you said,
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SPEAKER_03: you have all these weird reports of people helping them onto the plane
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SPEAKER_03: and other passengers on the plane that suddenly disappear.
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SPEAKER_03: And again, granted, there's supposed to be a certain amount of confusion in the aftermath.
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SPEAKER_03: But again,
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SPEAKER_03: I think the testimony of The fellow passengers at Amsterdam saying
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SPEAKER_03: that they saw what they saw.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, they were even on CNN.
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SPEAKER_03: It's funny,
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SPEAKER_03: like the first report of that came out,
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SPEAKER_03: and then like a week later, they finally were brought onto CNN for their story.
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SPEAKER_03: And I mean, I haven't heard a follow-up.
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SPEAKER_03: I haven't heard any kind of second story about that.
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SPEAKER_03: So it's kind of puzzling to me.
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SPEAKER_03: I unfortunately don't have much information to draw off of,
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SPEAKER_03: but I'm unfortunately,
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SPEAKER_03: at this point,
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SPEAKER_03: especially when I hear it being Now I'm hearing, oh,
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SPEAKER_03: Bin Laden has reportedly taken responsibility and Al-Qaeda has taken responsibility.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's the boogeyman.
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SPEAKER_03: That's all I can think of when I hear Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden
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SPEAKER_03: because we haven't actually seen proof that Bin Laden is alive,
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SPEAKER_03: actual physical proof since December 2001.
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SPEAKER_03: And even then, we don't know when that tape was recorded.
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SPEAKER_03: Anything after that is highly suspected.
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SPEAKER_00: Right, sure.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's just interesting when you look at when you compare
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SPEAKER_00: that situation that's going on now with the whole situation of, hey,
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SPEAKER_00: there was all kinds of explosions that brought down Building 7 and both of
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SPEAKER_00: the trade towers.
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SPEAKER_00: And then there wasn't explosions.
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SPEAKER_00: Then it just fell down.
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SPEAKER_00: And now you're looking at there was only one guy.
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SPEAKER_00: And now there's two guys and three guys.
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SPEAKER_00: It's almost like it's a replay with different players.
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SPEAKER_00: But it really is almost like it's a replay.
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SPEAKER_00: Scary times, man.
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SPEAKER_02: It's a 9-11 remix, but thankfully nobody died.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yet.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, who's to say that that was the first one?
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SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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SPEAKER_00: wasn't there a plane that went down the other day under mysterious terms like
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SPEAKER_00: in Ethiopia or somewhere?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I remember in the first 72 hours after the Christmas incident, I mean,
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SPEAKER_02: you couldn't go an hour without reading a new article on the news
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SPEAKER_02: about how some new plane was grounded somewhere
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SPEAKER_02: because someone saw something suspicious,
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SPEAKER_02: which later turned out to be completely innocuous.
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SPEAKER_02: You have to wonder how many things are slipping through the cracks at the same time.
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SPEAKER_02: It's crazy, man.
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SPEAKER_02: Our world right now is just absolutely nuts.
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SPEAKER_02: It's going to take a lot to fix it.
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SPEAKER_02: A lot.
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SPEAKER_02: Between all the money that's going to the banks
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SPEAKER_03: right now and all
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SPEAKER_03: the money that's not going to the right places,
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SPEAKER_03: everyone's just so screwed up right now.
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SPEAKER_03: The record on employment,
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SPEAKER_03: you know, the wars that we were told were going to end, still haven't.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, the list of things for people to feel disenfranchised and disappointed
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SPEAKER_03: about just keeps growing and growing in a daily ring.
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SPEAKER_03: I really have to wonder at what point people are just going to snap.
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SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, do you think that there'll ever be a time, though,
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SPEAKER_00: when the people have enough gumption behind them to actually say, no,
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SPEAKER_00: enough of this,
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SPEAKER_00: we don't care about you guys' plots anymore,
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SPEAKER_00: and actually have, like, a revolutionary stance, you know, as we go forward?
15:59
SPEAKER_02: God, man,
15:59
SPEAKER_02: I hope so,
16:00
SPEAKER_02: and I was kind of hoping that it would happen in 2005 or 2006 when
16:03
SPEAKER_02: the truth movement kind of came to a head,
16:05
SPEAKER_02: and it really seemed like,
16:06
SPEAKER_03: you know,
16:06
SPEAKER_03: people on a widespread nature were starting to learn about this kind of stuff,
16:10
SPEAKER_03: but...
16:11
SPEAKER_03: People are just so damn complacent, man.
16:14
SPEAKER_03: I guess it's pretty easy in today's day and age to be, A,
16:17
SPEAKER_02: distracted by all the things we have around us,
16:19
SPEAKER_02: and B, just to feel like there's not a damn thing we can do.
16:23
SPEAKER_02: I think it's really tough,
16:24
SPEAKER_02: but it's really going to come down to a moment of fight or flight for a lot
16:30
SPEAKER_02: of people.
16:31
SPEAKER_02: A lot of people are just not going to take a lot of pushing for them
16:36
SPEAKER_02: to finally start pushing back.
16:38
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
16:39
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, man.
16:40
SPEAKER_02: I mean,
16:40
SPEAKER_02: I'm all for the people standing up peacefully in a peaceful evolution as opposed to
16:45
SPEAKER_02: a violent revolution.
16:47
SPEAKER_02: But, you know,
16:48
SPEAKER_02: it seems like the only way things have ever actually gotten done in countries is
16:51
SPEAKER_02: through a revolution of some kind.
16:54
SPEAKER_02: So I guess, you know, that's, I don't know, man.
16:57
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
16:58
SPEAKER_02: I have no idea what's on the horizon.
16:59
SPEAKER_02: But I'm just hoping that things can actually change and do it with no eyes lost.
17:04
SPEAKER_02: But, you know, we are a bit of a violent culture.
17:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
17:08
SPEAKER_00: I would say.
17:09
SPEAKER_00: Well, I'll tell you what, Dylan, we've got to take a quick break.
17:11
SPEAKER_00: You've got time to hang for one more segment?
17:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
17:14
SPEAKER_00: All right.
17:14
SPEAKER_00: Well, then let's take a quick break,
17:16
SPEAKER_00: and we will be right back with filmmaker Dylan Avery who made
17:19
SPEAKER_00: the Loose Change American Coup movie.
17:21
SPEAKER_00: It's out now, and we'll be right back.
17:23
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17:38
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17:43
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17:52
SPEAKER_00: All right, we're right back here on All the News.
17:54
SPEAKER_00: It's Chris Akin with filmmaker Dylan Avery.
17:55
SPEAKER_00: It's a brand new movie called Loose Change, American Coup is available now.
18:01
SPEAKER_00: Dylan, how can people find out more about the movie and where can they see it?
18:04
SPEAKER_02: Well, they can find out more about it by going to our site,
18:07
SPEAKER_02: which is loosechange911alloneword.com.
18:12
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if there's any way to watch the
18:14
SPEAKER_03: latest one online,
18:15
SPEAKER_03: but I know that all the previous editions are on Google Video.
18:19
SPEAKER_03: And if you're a torrent-savvy person, I'm sure you can probably find a torrent of American Coup.
18:24
SPEAKER_03: And that's the one that was released last September and is narrated
18:26
SPEAKER_03: by Daniel Sinjata of FX's Rescue Me.
18:29
SPEAKER_03: Um, but if you do actually purchase a DVD of the film,
18:32
SPEAKER_03: then a percentage of proceeds goes to the first responders,
18:35
SPEAKER_03: which I mentioned earlier.
18:37
SPEAKER_03: Um, so, you know, even,
18:39
SPEAKER_03: even if you buy a copy of the film,
18:40
SPEAKER_03: we try to make sure a percentage goes to a good cause.
18:43
SPEAKER_03: So, um, you can either, um,
18:44
SPEAKER_03: try and find it online, uh,
18:46
SPEAKER_03: and again,
18:46
SPEAKER_03: try and,
18:47
SPEAKER_03: try and make sure you're watching the American 2 edition,
18:49
SPEAKER_03: because again,
18:49
SPEAKER_03: that's, you know, the most latest and most professional, in my opinion.
18:53
SPEAKER_02: Uh, it's the one I, I definitely stand by the strongest.
18:56
SPEAKER_02: And, um,
18:57
SPEAKER_02: Outside of loose change,
18:58
SPEAKER_02: I think the main thing for people to realize that some never did or never wanted
19:04
SPEAKER_02: to is that the truth movement is never about loose change and it's never
19:08
SPEAKER_02: about one certain set of facts.
19:11
SPEAKER_02: It's about the continuing realization of the massive cover-up that took place
19:14
SPEAKER_02: because of the events and the massive shift in foreign and domestic policy
19:19
SPEAKER_02: that took place because of it.
19:22
SPEAKER_02: Really, the simple lack of accountability and lack of Lack of response we saw,
19:29
SPEAKER_03: and the fact that,
19:30
SPEAKER_03: you know,
19:30
SPEAKER_03: the family members and survivors literally had to fight for an investigation in
19:33
SPEAKER_03: the first place.
19:35
SPEAKER_03: And, you know,
19:36
SPEAKER_03: it's really funny to me for people to say, oh, well,
19:39
SPEAKER_03: you know,
19:40
SPEAKER_03: the truth movement was a bunch of years ago, all their claims are nonsense.
19:43
SPEAKER_03: I mean, our claims grow daily.
19:45
SPEAKER_03: I mean, the site,
19:47
SPEAKER_03: History Commons,
19:48
SPEAKER_03: which is historycommons.org, I mean, that site just grows daily with information.
19:53
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we're not talking about some guy writing articles about what he thinks happened.
19:56
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we're talking about A nonstop, constant cataloging of mainstream articles and news.
20:04
SPEAKER_03: It just goes on and on and on.
20:05
SPEAKER_03: It started with 9-11 and eventually branched out into the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq.
20:10
SPEAKER_03: It's really funny.
20:11
SPEAKER_03: You can actually watch the timelines dedicated to the Afghanistan pipeline
20:17
SPEAKER_03: and see how it correlates with September 11th.
20:19
SPEAKER_02: That's just one example.
20:22
SPEAKER_02: If you want to talk about seeing the big picture and really getting
20:25
SPEAKER_02: a very clear picture of The bigger things around September 11th.
20:32
SPEAKER_02: People ask all the time, what could they possibly have gained from this?
20:36
SPEAKER_02: That site is the perfect answer because
20:38
SPEAKER_03: it doesn't necessarily say that they gained anything.
20:41
SPEAKER_03: Simply just put this act out there.
20:44
SPEAKER_03: You can see for yourself how certain games and decisions line up.
20:47
SPEAKER_03: It's just fascinating.
20:48
SPEAKER_00: Sure, absolutely.
20:50
SPEAKER_00: Now, Dylan,
20:50
SPEAKER_00: before I do ask you a couple of questions about 9-11,
20:52
SPEAKER_00: let me just, you brought it up, so I'll kind of go with it.
20:56
SPEAKER_00: One thing that I noticed,
20:58
SPEAKER_00: was it a year ago or whatever,
20:59
SPEAKER_00: was when Google themselves stopped allowing Google Video.
21:04
SPEAKER_00: And I immediately thought of, man,
21:06
SPEAKER_00: that's really going to hurt guys like yourself or Alex Jones or whatnot as far
21:10
SPEAKER_00: as putting out videos that actually challenge the government and put it in
21:16
SPEAKER_00: a different light.
21:17
SPEAKER_00: Do you think that that's kind of a governmental move or do you think
21:20
SPEAKER_00: that it's strictly a business move on Google's side?
21:25
SPEAKER_02: Um, what do you mean?
21:26
SPEAKER_02: You mean, because Google Video's still running, as far as I know.
21:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but can you,
21:29
SPEAKER_00: because I was under the impression that you cannot put large,
21:33
SPEAKER_00: the big videos up there anymore, that you had to do smaller videos.
21:36
SPEAKER_03: Oh, that may be true.
21:37
SPEAKER_03: That may be true.
21:38
SPEAKER_03: Well, I know YouTube always had a 10-minute cap,
21:40
SPEAKER_03: but I think Google, I mean,
21:41
SPEAKER_03: I haven't tried to use Google Video in a long time,
21:43
SPEAKER_03: but they might have put a cap on it, um,
21:46
SPEAKER_03: and it might have strictly been in terms of storage and bandwidth, um,
21:50
SPEAKER_02: Simply on a technical aspect,
21:52
SPEAKER_02: simply in terms of finances,
21:54
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure it might not have been exactly feasible for people
21:57
SPEAKER_02: to be streaming one hour, two hour films on a constant daily basis.
22:02
SPEAKER_02: I mean, if they were going to pull us,
22:04
SPEAKER_02: they would have done it in 2006 when we were
22:05
SPEAKER_03: dominating the charts
22:06
SPEAKER_03: and we wouldn't go away from the number one spot.
22:08
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we beat Stephen Colbert, his White House correspondent speech.
22:13
SPEAKER_03: I mean, he was number two under us.
22:15
SPEAKER_03: I mean, and that was like, that was hot news for a long time.
22:18
SPEAKER_03: And we were even beating out him on the charts.
22:20
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we were easily number one for at least a month on Google Video in 2006.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
22:26
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
22:27
SPEAKER_00: Well, Dylan,
22:27
SPEAKER_00: let's talk a little bit about the stuff that I've seen in
22:30
SPEAKER_00: the previous Loose Change videos because I do have a couple of questions for you.
22:35
SPEAKER_00: Probably the most interesting portion of the Loose Change videos to me is the...
22:44
SPEAKER_00: Kind of the combination of the Shanksville stuff as well as the Pentagon stuff
22:48
SPEAKER_00: and basically the complete and total lack of any evidence,
22:52
SPEAKER_00: video, pictures, anything from any of those spaces.
22:57
SPEAKER_00: And what I'm curious about is why in your estimation have they just tried
23:02
SPEAKER_00: to eliminate any kind of pictures and videos of any of that when
23:06
SPEAKER_00: that would knowingly create more contention of a coup
23:14
SPEAKER_00: Than just putting out pictures of the stuff.
23:18
SPEAKER_03: I mean, if you want my personal opinion, it's because we have something to hide.
23:21
SPEAKER_03: But, I mean,
23:22
SPEAKER_03: the Pentagon is naturally going to be up to debate for a lot of people for
23:27
SPEAKER_03: a very long time,
23:28
SPEAKER_03: because they could argue that it was a structurally reinforced building,
23:32
SPEAKER_03: and even though it's an astounding coincidence that
23:35
SPEAKER_03: the building was just recently reinforced to withstand a terrorist attack,
23:38
SPEAKER_03: and the attack happened to occur in that very wedge, And,
23:42
SPEAKER_03: of course, the,
23:43
SPEAKER_03: you know,
23:43
SPEAKER_03: debunkers and other people argue, well,
23:46
SPEAKER_03: actually,
23:46
SPEAKER_03: you know,
23:46
SPEAKER_03: that is why there is no plane left because,
23:49
SPEAKER_03: you know, the building was so strong that the plane vaporized.
23:51
SPEAKER_03: So, I mean,
23:52
SPEAKER_03: the Pentagon is,
23:53
SPEAKER_03: like I said, going to be up for debate for a long time for a lot of people.
23:55
SPEAKER_03: But I think, you know, Flight 93 should be an open and shut case for a lot of people.
23:59
SPEAKER_03: And, I mean,
24:00
SPEAKER_03: the FBI did the truth movement a huge favor in 2006 when they released a number
24:05
SPEAKER_03: of pictures for the Zacharias Massawi trial that had never been seen before in
24:09
SPEAKER_03: the public.
24:09
SPEAKER_03: And I mean, like, Detailed close-ups of the crater.
24:12
SPEAKER_03: And these are taken in not necessarily the immediate aftermath, but maybe a day or two after.
24:17
SPEAKER_03: And there's just nothing there, man.
24:19
SPEAKER_03: I mean, there's nothing
24:21
SPEAKER_00: in that crater.
24:22
SPEAKER_00: So what do you think hit it?
24:25
SPEAKER_00: I mean, do you think...
24:27
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to assume that your assumption from the movie is that it got shot down.
24:31
SPEAKER_00: But even if it got shot down, what do you think left the crater?
24:35
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
24:36
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's...
24:37
SPEAKER_03: There's a lot of interesting theories,
24:40
SPEAKER_03: and there's a lot of I mean,
24:41
SPEAKER_03: you know,
24:43
SPEAKER_03: personally,
24:44
SPEAKER_03: the one thing that's very interesting to me is that Flight 93 ended up taking off
24:47
SPEAKER_03: about 40 or 45 minutes late,
24:50
SPEAKER_03: and I think that actually might have put a kink in their plans a little bit.
24:54
SPEAKER_03: Again, this is pure speculation on my part,
24:57
SPEAKER_03: but 40 minutes late, I mean,
24:59
SPEAKER_03: that's definitely,
25:01
SPEAKER_03: that would definitely screw up somebody's travel plan,
25:04
SPEAKER_03: not to say the murder of 3,000 people that hinges on a plane arriving somewhere at
25:09
SPEAKER_03: a certain time.
25:10
SPEAKER_00: Right.
25:11
SPEAKER_03: I think that may,
25:12
SPEAKER_03: you know,
25:13
SPEAKER_03: that alone,
25:13
SPEAKER_03: the late departure from Newark Airport,
25:15
SPEAKER_03: I think,
25:15
SPEAKER_03: probably plays a part into why what happened happened,
25:19
SPEAKER_03: but as opposed to what and how,
25:21
SPEAKER_03: I don't know exactly, but, I mean,
25:25
SPEAKER_03: if you really want me to speculate,
25:26
SPEAKER_03: which I hate doing, but, you know, I'll do it just for the hell out of it right now.
25:30
SPEAKER_03: I mean, my catch is because they did eventually provide pictures.
25:35
SPEAKER_03: Sorry.
25:36
SPEAKER_03: That's all right.
25:37
SPEAKER_03: Sky and a bike.
25:38
SPEAKER_03: Don't interrupt everybody.
25:40
SPEAKER_03: Um, So, um, lost my train of thought.
25:45
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I mean,
25:46
SPEAKER_03: they did eventually recover,
25:47
SPEAKER_03: you know,
25:47
SPEAKER_03: the FBI,
25:48
SPEAKER_03: while they also released those close-ups of the crater
25:50
SPEAKER_03: with no visible plane whatsoever,
25:51
SPEAKER_03: they did release a picture of an engine or a rotor of some kind being extracted from
25:57
SPEAKER_03: the pit.
25:58
SPEAKER_03: And that's like the closest,
25:59
SPEAKER_03: that's the closest we've ever seen to any kind of debris or,
26:03
SPEAKER_03: you know, plane wreckage being pulled from the pit.
26:06
SPEAKER_03: I mean, to be honest,
26:07
SPEAKER_03: you know,
26:08
SPEAKER_03: for all we know, maybe,
26:09
SPEAKER_03: you know,
26:10
SPEAKER_03: they hit the plane with They shot the plane and it took out one of the engines and
26:14
SPEAKER_03: the engine fell off and created that hole.
26:17
SPEAKER_03: And then they escorted the plane to...
26:19
SPEAKER_03: I mean, because there was also reports of secondary debris fields about six
26:24
SPEAKER_03: to eight miles directly to the southeast of New Baltimore.
26:26
SPEAKER_03: And I mean, I went there and I talked to one of these people.
26:30
SPEAKER_03: I mean, she was like, the same day of the crash, there was debris in her backyard.
26:33
SPEAKER_03: And she was at least six miles to the east.
26:36
SPEAKER_03: And I'm not talking...
26:37
SPEAKER_03: You know,
26:37
SPEAKER_03: MapQuest directions I'm talking as the crow flies six miles to the southeast of
26:41
SPEAKER_03: the crater, and she said there was debris in her backyard that evening.
26:44
SPEAKER_03: So, and the other thing is that,
26:46
SPEAKER_03: you know,
26:46
SPEAKER_03: on September 13th,
26:47
SPEAKER_03: Brian Cabello of the FBI got on CNN and said,
26:50
SPEAKER_03: you know,
26:51
SPEAKER_03: the FBI actually just confirmed that they cordoned off another area about six
26:54
SPEAKER_03: to eight miles away,
26:55
SPEAKER_03: and we're actually sending a camera crew right now over there to check it out.
26:59
SPEAKER_03: And, of course,
26:59
SPEAKER_03: we never heard anything about that camera crew or any kind of follow-up on
27:03
SPEAKER_03: that secondary field, so I'm sure they showed up and were, you know...
27:06
SPEAKER_03: Pushed away quite promptly.
27:08
SPEAKER_03: Right.
27:08
SPEAKER_03: I mean, there's, you know, and that's the other thing about where 93 crashes.
27:14
SPEAKER_03: It's, you know,
27:15
SPEAKER_03: such an obscure place in the middle of nowhere that,
27:18
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I don't want to say anything could have happened.
27:20
SPEAKER_03: But, I mean,
27:21
SPEAKER_03: there were so many reports of,
27:22
SPEAKER_03: you know, planes in the air immediately after the crash.
27:25
SPEAKER_03: And, I mean,
27:25
SPEAKER_03: I spoke to the mayor of Indian Lake who said that,
27:27
SPEAKER_03: you know,
27:28
SPEAKER_03: either a fighter jet or something that sounded like a missile flew
27:31
SPEAKER_03: over his house immediately after Flight 93 crashed.
27:34
SPEAKER_03: After Flight 93.
27:41
SPEAKER_03: And this is a story that he told immediately after the attacks and then in 2002.
27:46
SPEAKER_03: And it's pretty much told every single person ever since.
27:49
SPEAKER_03: But, you know,
27:50
SPEAKER_03: the truth movement is the only,
27:52
SPEAKER_03: you know, group of people that ever actually brought attention to it.
27:55
SPEAKER_03: And, you know,
27:55
SPEAKER_03: of course,
27:56
SPEAKER_03: the debunkers love to talk about,
27:57
SPEAKER_03: you know,
27:57
SPEAKER_03: they love to use Barry Licky when it makes it sound like he's proving us wrong.
28:01
SPEAKER_03: But they love to avoid him when he talks about a military plane flying
28:05
SPEAKER_03: over his house immediately after the crash.
28:07
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
28:08
SPEAKER_03: So, I mean, there's a lot of things about that day that don't add up.
28:11
SPEAKER_03: Especially Shakespeare,
28:12
SPEAKER_03: and that's the thing about it being such an obscure place in the middle of nowhere.
28:16
SPEAKER_03: Not to say that anything could have happened, but there's a very wide range of possibilities.
28:23
SPEAKER_03: The simple fact of the matter is the immediate helicopter coverage,
28:29
SPEAKER_03: which couldn't have come more than an hour or two after the crash,
28:32
SPEAKER_03: shows no plane whatsoever.
28:34
SPEAKER_03: You can look at every aircraft incident in history,
28:36
SPEAKER_03: both with twin-engine Quadruple engine,
28:39
SPEAKER_03: single engine aircraft, they always leave something.
28:42
SPEAKER_03: There's always wreckage.
28:43
SPEAKER_03: There's a tail.
28:44
SPEAKER_03: There's an engine.
28:45
SPEAKER_03: There's a cockpit.
28:46
SPEAKER_03: There's some kind of,
28:48
SPEAKER_03: you know,
28:48
SPEAKER_03: hint that a commercial jet, a hundred tons of metal crashed into the ground.
28:53
SPEAKER_03: And at Shanksville, you've got a plane-shaped hole, like a cartoon-like outline.
28:57
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's...
28:59
SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry, but there's just nothing there.
29:00
SPEAKER_03: And, I mean,
29:01
SPEAKER_03: you know,
29:01
SPEAKER_03: the helicopter shot is one thing that you could possibly,
29:04
SPEAKER_03: you know, that, you know...
29:08
SPEAKER_03: But I mean,
29:09
SPEAKER_03: the close-up photographs the FBI released in 2006,
29:11
SPEAKER_03: I mean, there's just nothing there.
29:13
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30:02
SPEAKER_00: One thing that I remember when 9-11 happened from listening to the TV and the radio
30:07
SPEAKER_00: as it was going on was that there was a lot of talk about other planes
30:11
SPEAKER_00: that were renegade planes that were kind of off the grid.
30:14
SPEAKER_00: Specifically, there was talk about planes being over Texas.
30:17
SPEAKER_00: Do you remember any of that stuff?
30:19
SPEAKER_00: And do you think that maybe some of that stuff was sort of meant kind of pushed
30:23
SPEAKER_00: to go away by the government?
30:27
SPEAKER_02: I do remember the report about the plane on the Ohio-Kentucky border.
30:30
SPEAKER_02: I remember that one pretty explicitly.
30:33
SPEAKER_02: There were a lot of reports of suspicious items being found on other planes
30:37
SPEAKER_02: and spare airline uniforms and things that looked like they had been placed there
30:41
SPEAKER_02: by someone on the inside.
30:42
SPEAKER_02: There was a lot of stuff that came out in the aftermath that we never heard again about.
30:49
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
30:50
SPEAKER_02: It's tough to say.
30:51
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
30:52
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't know how many things have that much truth to it,
30:55
SPEAKER_02: because a lot of those things are,
30:56
SPEAKER_02: you know, the things that were reported once and then went away.
31:01
SPEAKER_02: It's really tough to say.
31:02
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I haven't heard any confirmation, per se,
31:06
SPEAKER_02: of any of the flights that were supposedly,
31:09
SPEAKER_02: you know, downed or, you know, went down over specific areas.
31:12
SPEAKER_02: But, you know,
31:13
SPEAKER_02: there's just so much news
31:14
SPEAKER_03: floating around at that period of time, and,
31:16
SPEAKER_03: you know,
31:17
SPEAKER_03: it is kind of hard to filter out exactly what's true and what was just,
31:20
SPEAKER_03: you know,
31:20
SPEAKER_03: misinformation like it You know,
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SPEAKER_03: a bomb on the State Department, which obviously turned out to be false.
31:25
SPEAKER_00: Right.
31:26
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
31:27
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
31:27
SPEAKER_00: And, I mean,
31:28
SPEAKER_00: maybe that's part of what was kind of wanted was,
31:31
SPEAKER_00: you know,
31:31
SPEAKER_00: was a lot of chaos making a lot of things,
31:34
SPEAKER_00: which makes it,
31:34
SPEAKER_00: you know, a lot easier to deny a lot of things because there was so much chaos.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
31:39
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, again,
31:41
SPEAKER_02: it's what was disinformation and what was something that was only reported once.
31:47
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
31:48
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, man.
31:49
SPEAKER_00: Dylan, I'm always curious,
31:51
SPEAKER_00: with guys like yourself,
31:52
SPEAKER_00: or I'll specifically point to Alex Jones as well,
31:56
SPEAKER_00: guys that so boldly put it out there,
31:59
SPEAKER_00: and probably more Alex Jones than you,
32:01
SPEAKER_00: because I think you just let the facts speak for themselves.
32:04
SPEAKER_00: You just put what your research finds out there and let people decide.
32:08
SPEAKER_00: But I'm curious for you yourself, do you ever worry about your own safety?
32:11
SPEAKER_00: Because clearly if everything is true and the government did plot this whole thing
32:17
SPEAKER_00: and they have no concern at all for life,
32:20
SPEAKER_00: what stops them from taking out a little guy like yourself or Alex Jones
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SPEAKER_00: or somebody else that's fronting a truth movement?
32:27
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean,
32:28
SPEAKER_02: at first I was definitely concerned,
32:29
SPEAKER_02: and I had,
32:30
SPEAKER_02: you know,
32:30
SPEAKER_02: I had one anonymous phone call that kind of freaked me out,
32:33
SPEAKER_02: and I did have,
32:34
SPEAKER_02: you know,
32:35
SPEAKER_02: I had someone following up to their protests in late 2007, but,
32:40
SPEAKER_02: you know,
32:41
SPEAKER_02: I think it was,
32:42
SPEAKER_02: you know,
32:43
SPEAKER_02: at first I was nothing and no one really cared about loose change,
32:46
SPEAKER_02: and then the second edition just kind of went supernova.
32:48
SPEAKER_02: Right.
32:50
SPEAKER_02: So if there ever was an opportunity to screw with me, then they didn't take it.
32:53
SPEAKER_02: But, I mean, I honestly think that their best defense is to just leave me alone.
32:57
SPEAKER_02: And I mean,
32:58
SPEAKER_02: you know,
32:58
SPEAKER_02: to be completely honest with you,
32:59
SPEAKER_02: nothing would indicate me more than for something bad to happen to me.
33:02
SPEAKER_02: Because then,
33:03
SPEAKER_02: especially if it happened under suspicious circumstances,
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SPEAKER_02: then people would kind of be forced to admit I was onto something.
33:08
SPEAKER_00: Right.
33:09
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
33:10
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
33:10
SPEAKER_02: I mean...
33:11
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's at least my defense.
33:12
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm afraid nothing ever happens to me.
33:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm lucky that nothing has.
33:16
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, I don't know.
33:19
SPEAKER_00: Well, I can just tell you,
33:20
SPEAKER_00: I can remember times when I was in bar fights and then I'd spend
33:23
SPEAKER_00: the next two weeks looking over my shoulder.
33:25
SPEAKER_00: I certainly can't imagine taking on this big 900-pound gorilla and not being
33:29
SPEAKER_00: at least concerned from time to time.
33:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean,
33:33
SPEAKER_02: I definitely had my share of concern,
33:34
SPEAKER_02: but I guess I just tried to see it as part of the job per se
33:39
SPEAKER_02: and just doing what I had to do.
33:41
SPEAKER_02: But I'm thankful that I can kind of take a step back now and kind of focus
33:44
SPEAKER_02: on just being myself again.
33:46
SPEAKER_00: Excellent.
33:47
SPEAKER_00: Well, the new film is called Loose Change, American Coup.
33:50
SPEAKER_00: Dylan, why don't you go ahead and give the plug where people can find out more about
33:53
SPEAKER_00: the movie and maybe buy it, maybe torrent it, but however they got to get it.
33:59
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, Chris, the film is Loose Change, American Coup.
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SPEAKER_02: The official website is loosechange911.com.
34:07
SPEAKER_02: They can get the DVDs online, pretty much any store they can think of.
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SPEAKER_02: It's carried out by Netflix, so if you have a Netflix account, you can get it that way.
34:14
SPEAKER_02: And they carry physical copies in Barnes & Noble, so you can get it that way, too.
34:18
SPEAKER_00: Excellent.
34:19
SPEAKER_00: All right, Dylan, well, good luck with it, man.
34:21
SPEAKER_00: Hopefully some people will pick it up,
34:23
SPEAKER_00: and if nothing else,
34:23
SPEAKER_00: hopefully, no matter how they obtain it, they learn a little something.
34:28
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely,
34:28
SPEAKER_03: and that's all it's ever been about,
34:30
SPEAKER_03: just getting information out and kind of getting people the question it is,
34:33
SPEAKER_03: whatever aspect of it it may be.
34:36
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