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Street Farbrengen Episode #146: When America Stops Feeling Safe · ChabadLife.TV Street Farbrengen

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_05: Sukaria, I had a very odd reaction to the elections.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_05: I woke up this morning after the elections and all day I was in a heightened state of anxiety that I have rarely if ever had experienced before.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_05: And it was very bothersome.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: But uh it was unfortunately a bit expected, and uh here we are.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_01: So so let's I mean you've described a lot of uh I I mean I'm as you know what let me not make an assumption.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_01: What was your anxiety about?
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_05: Uh at first it was nothing specific.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_05: It was kind of like overall anxiety, but then when I dealt with it it did you uh I could only ask about this question.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_05: So for those people who find this um bothersome, well join my anxiety.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_05: Did you ever have a love that walked away?
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_05: That's the way I felt about uh living in America when I woke up this morning.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_05: Like the dream which I really didn't have dreams about, it was just like this is life, right?
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_05: But the dream, the comfortableness, the this is just what things are which is of course the opposite of ghoula, etc.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_05: Is just been taken away from me.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_05: America walked out the door on me.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_05: That's the way I felt.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_05: And filling up that emptiness was all the stuff you're reading about, because in the morning somebody sent me about this um bike um ride going to go through Philadelphia and there's gonna be targeted Jewish shops.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_05: And it's the night of the of the day of Kristallnach anniversary.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_05: I mean you can't make that stuff.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe they picked it purposely, who knows?
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_05: They're probably too stupid to know about Kristallnach.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_05: But the bottom line is that I had that anxiety.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_05: And somebody said to me in Schul that God had a plan.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_05: And then he added, I just hope it's not a similar it's not a Hitler plan.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, come on, this is ridiculous.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_05: This is I can't say it's ridiculous, but it's like I said, it's bothersome.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_05: And I was feeling anxiety all day long.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_05: So the first thing I said was stop watching, you know, the headlines and this.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_05: And then I said to myself, Oh yeah, ignorance is bliss, huh?
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean yeah, just ignore it and maybe it'll go away.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's not about ignoring it.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's also about what are you able to actually accomplish by being overly aware and in the weeds of what's well maybe I'm supposed to pick myself up and leave.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, do you is that a thought that crosses your mind often?
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_05: I just said it.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm saying you're taking it as a directive, potentially.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_05: As a directive?
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_05: What do you mean from God?
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_05: I can't speak for God.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_01: No, I mean, like a lot of people make the claim, you know, the Rebbe did not encourage people to leave a career.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_05: So Right.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_05: And and the the Rebbe said Mashiach is, so to speak, if we can be kosher, on the way.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_05: And I th and I reflect back to when they wrote to the Rebbe about South Africa, when there was going to be the change of and the part that was going to end.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_05: And the Rebbe said everything would be fine.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_05: They thought they were going to have a bloodbath.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_05: And Nelson Mandela didn't make a bloodbath.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_05: So, but the Rebbe saw it, however, he sees things.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I'm not having a um theological crisis.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_05: I'm I don't need to explain how this fits in with Mashiach and everything else.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_05: That does not the way I roll.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_05: But yeah, that's the way I was that was my emotional reaction.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_01: You should pick up and leave.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_05: That no, that I'm referring more to I had the emotional reaction of anxiety.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_01: Anxiety because you lost anxiety.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_05: Because the safety comfortableness is gone.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_05: And the future.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_05: I saw a post today.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not here to you know agitate your your uh anxiety, but I will, anyways.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I saw a post today where someone's writing about their grandparents who are 80, 90 years old.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_05: I'm a little bit younger than that, but 80, 90, 90 years old, telling them how lucky they are that they experience the true America because their grandchildren won't.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_05: Right?
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, can you think of not that people in France are not thinking that?
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, based on okay.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I understand.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_01: But what do we do?
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_05: So what so you know I mean, basically, because in the end you're right.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_05: We're you and I are not gonna make big changes, supposedly, because we're not thinking that way, anyways.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_05: But let's ask the philosophical question.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_05: Let's throw up the philosophical basketball at center court and see who's gonna hit it where.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_05: What's the Gaoula response to a vice president of the United States who said today that essentially it's because of the Jews that the Republicans lost, and Trump actually said that you gotta be careful who you back.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_05: So alluding to well, they backed the Israelis and they went to war in Iran, that caused gas prices to rise.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_05: Americans are about as deep as a dollar bill, and all they care about is what's in their pocket, so they voted them all out.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, that's what he said.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_05: He then, of course, bashed this guy in Michigan.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_05: But but this is all what do you do when you feel threatened?
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_05: From a what did they do in Russia when they were living there?
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_05: Did they fight?
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_05: Did did you see Mandel Futefas as a strong knife carrying soldier?
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I know of stories.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know about him in particular, but yeah, tons of stories of people who strapped on and uh you know.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so I ask myself, why am I not like that?
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, are are you saying like an actual physical way of just like okay, because what the what the fight talk me to-talk down out of my anxiety, Zachary?
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't know if I need to talk you down, but maybe to channel it, maybe to understand.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_05: Wherever you want to parse the wording.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_05: Do it do your thing.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_05: Let me see.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_01: I I I could tell you that I understand where the anxiety is coming from, but like I said before, okay, so what's the what's the takeaway?
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_01: What's what's the what's the actual way that you're gonna look at it?
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_01: So let's look at it on a physical way, an emotional way, and a spiritual way.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_01: The physical way is exactly that.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_01: Listen, Ruben, you've uh I think have had the desire for years, learn how to shoot a gun, go get your permit, and uh see, feel like you have the ability to but gosh me as protect yourself and your family.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_01: And stepping up to the plate where if you actually feel unsafe, you know, learn how to defend yourself just on a on a basic level.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_01: Again, I'm saying that for you.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_01: For me, it's not I don't feel that need.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: So that's not where I would need to channel my anxiety because my anxiety is not a physical I'm not sure that's my not that that's my anxiety.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean you said it a little bit that that's that's I give you the example of mental foot defense, but so I'm saying no, no, not only that, but you mentioned you know the bike rides and the you know that that they're gonna be targeting Jewish businesses, and we obviously know what happened to Europe and no, I'm not saying that that I mean we already know what's going on in Europe.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not even saying that in terms of that.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_05: I'm talking about the zeitgeist of America.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: No, but I'm saying for first it's like, what can I do for myself to take this anxiety that may be true, that may be coming to fruition, and not being blindsided by a reality that you know could be unfortunate that we need to deal with.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm saying like these are so that's like the first thing.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: The second thing is it emotionally, which is like to be able to literally understand that, like, okay, you could get involved in more politics and you could like understand what's going on in the in the world and the situation and see, you know, where you could, you know, positively influence, you know, your environment.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_01: You know, some people do it with uh posting on Facebook as a as a as an example of just like okay, like now it's just time to defend yourself, you know, on a on an intellectual, emotional level.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: And then there's obviously then the spiritual side of these things, which is like, okay, well, what's the message?
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_01: So there's there's what's the message?
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: What's the message for you for you with with your anxiety?
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_01: Is were you rel were you relying on the government to protect you versus Hem?
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's literally what it always talked about in terms of like, you know, the comfortability.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: You you talked about it as almost like a love affair that you like lost the love, which I think is a very interesting example um of isn't it of of of what you saw America doing for you, and that might just be because you're an immigrant and uh you know appreciate it.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_05: I would say the same thing in Canada, it's nothing to do with immigration or not.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's that it's you have a certain appreciation though that I think is beautiful that you had that you feel like you're now losing.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_05: The Rebbe said United States is a Medina Shilchid, it's a country of kindness, and when they asked him could the Holocaust happen in America, he said tomorrow.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_05: So that sounds a little bit paradoxical, but yeah.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_01: So So I'm saying that the the rookie side of it is again to reorient of were you trusting the government to protect you or are you trusting the government?
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_05: No, I'm not you know what my anxiety is not whether the government will protect me.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_05: It's being in a situation where I need the government to protect me.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't have that before.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, consciously, obviously you have a police force and you have this, that, and next thing.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_05: I'm talking about 300 million people basically blaming Jews for their situation that they're in.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_05: And coming to fruition up I mean, listen, we don't have to paint it, it's particular.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_05: Coming into fruition, people who are advocating a communism, b um cutting off any support uh to to Israel, which is not which we can talk about that in different ways.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_05: But when there's bike rides to go and say this is outright so taking uh the So I'm sure the I'm sure by the way, I wrote today there was a senator, not a senator, state senator.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I don't know who he is, his name is Eamon Brown in the Philadelphia area, and he or I think he's in Philadelphia, and he literally came out totally shocked about this thing, and he said very positive words, and I actually sent him an email.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_05: But it's it's it's not even will I be protected?
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_05: It's okay, let's let's put the question the way they're asking at my shoulder.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_05: Is this a wake-up call for us to pick up and get out of here?
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: So I already told you my opinion about that.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: Which is and no, I don't believe you leave, but my my point in saying that again is the the wake-up call of were you consciously or even subconsciously relying on Teva, relying on the wolves to protect the sheep and not on the shepherd.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: There there is still that idea to remind yourself of and to So let's talk historically now.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, we had this during uh the last two years with um three years, is it three years?
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_05: With um yeah, it's three years, with uh what happened in Israel and so forth.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_05: Let's let's use let's go to the past rather than in the it's easier to deal with the past, right?
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_05: Because you're not there, you're just an observer.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_05: We could sound so smart.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_05: And being an observer is so yeah, exactly.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_05: We can sound so smart.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_05: So isn't this discussion we're having could have been had in 1932 in a university in Germany?
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, of course.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_05: Of course.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_00: Not even a question.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_05: Some people left, and their family's here to tell the tale.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_05: And some people didn't.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_05: Now, am I getting over dramatic?
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_05: I'm just talking about emotional feeling now.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, again, hindsight is 2020, and it's very easy to point back and say they for sure, you know, were rescued.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: No, on the contrary law, and they were the smart ones, but like Okay, no, but I'm not worried about that.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_05: I'm talking more about am I gonna repeat the scenario?
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_05: And that's why that was my that and it wasn't an intellectual conversation going on in my head this morning.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: It was just totally emotional anxiety, anxiety, yeah.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: And that's why Barochnius, I think that is the first and foremost question that everyone's gonna be able to do it.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but didn't every single yid with paus and a beard say that as an answer before they ended up taking off their clothes, going into a shower, and being burnt?
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_05: I hate to say it that way, but didn't they say that?
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so where does so really the question comes It's something that we said many times.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_05: When you have Amuna, does that lead to less action or more action?
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_00: More action.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_05: When you have a Muna and Betachin, does it lead to more business adventures or less business adventures?
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_01: Because you have an excitement now.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_05: And and etc.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_05: So really maybe um there is a what would the Rebbe do?
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_05: Say.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_05: Do you know?
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: I wish I knew.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_05: No, but I don't know if we're boring our our the people joining us because maybe they can't relate to any of this.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_05: Um and we have no way of knowing.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, I don't uh I mean I don't relate to it so much either, in the sense that I don't I don't feel anxiety about these things.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: I look at it and I'm like, oh man, I wonder what's coming.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm very cautious and interested in a, you know, like, oh man, like I could see a lot of dominoes that could fall from from this, but it's like it's hard to for me, it's hard to get emotionally anxious about it.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_05: So I don't really emotionally anxious about it.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_01: No, but I'm saying that's your ex your experience of it, and I'm assuming there's other people who relate to that.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: I just don't relate to that personally.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_01: So so but no, I think, but the Rebbe always would talk about these things, but like you said, we don't try to guess what the you know, the spiritual um forecasting that this is not talking about spiritual forecasting, I'm talking about mice of a poil.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and so that's why I'm saying let's first and foremost ask yourself on a very honest, real level was I relying on Teva for that level of comfort, protection, um, need of that this is like comfort and protection and things like that.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_01: Or it's like that's Gaula.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: But it's Gaula.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_05: Comfort and protection is Gaula?
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, of course.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_01: That it's what's the one thing Rambom brings?
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_01: Is the is the fact that we're not going to have the the nations of the world uh, you know, attacking us effectively, that we're gonna be able to do Torah and mitzvahs but with Manukha Snafish and Manukha Sagouf.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it's it's protection, it's safety, it's comfortability.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_01: But why do we have that?
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_01: We have that because of Hashem, not because of the nations, you know, um changing their nature to be.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_05: Are you saying fine?
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_05: So are you saying it's a wake-up call because we have been like someone once came into Schul screaming, Trump is not Messiah?
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_01: Unfortunately, that needed to be said.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_01: I think there are a lot of people who thought so.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_05: No, so are you saying?
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, there are people, you know, that's a perfect example, actually.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: There are people who to this day think that Trump could do no harm and did everything perfect and right and whatever it is.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean it's ridiculous.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_05: It's it's not I'm saying even if he did all good, it's not him, according to the way.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's that's true also.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_01: But again, he okay.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_05: So are you saying what?
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_05: Let's get down to part of the placa here.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_01: I I already told you.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_01: Ask yourself was this my modus apparatus of how I was relating to my life feeling of security.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_05: I wasn't thinking to myself, am I protected by the city?
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't think it's such a conscious thing, but I'm saying it's a question it was that's very important.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_05: Status quo was I can go anywhere.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_05: And feel comfortable.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let me tell you, that's that's a like you you could call that that's goola, because that is what it should be, but were you doing it?
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: Call it what you want.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_01: I'm curious, I don't know why you can call it gulli.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: Because I'm saying, were you doing that because you were you were um falling into the feeling that the goyim were now on your side and no and what do you mean the goyum?
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: The government, the the establishment, the the American dream, the the love that you had, was that and I'm sorry for picking on you, but you asked, so like let's just explore it.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm saying, was that a uh a false narrative created because you wanted to for whatever?
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_05: Let me ask you a question.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_05: I I hear your question, but I don't know if I agree with the question to begin with.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_05: Um when you wake up in the morning, are you ecstatic that you woke up?
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I it it may take Yes or no?
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_01: No, not immediately.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: Of course not.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, you're right.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_05: You're ecstatic afterwards.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_05: Tell me about it.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_05: No, if you're not ecstatic when you wake up in the game.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't ask you about gratitude.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_05: I asked you about whether you're ecstatic or not.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, no.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_05: No, of course not.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_05: Are you gonna say to me in a very disparaging way, oh, well, that's because you're relying on Teva.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_05: Which you may be.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_05: Is it is it more from to feel less taken care of?
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_05: However form it is, even if you want to say it's America that God made and therefore it's a comfortable place to live in.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_05: And now it's not a comfortable place per se to live in, or possibly not comfortable.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_05: So blame it on God.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_05: Fine.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: I don't understand your question.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_05: You don't feel ecstatic when you wake up in the morning.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry, you don't.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_05: You don't feel ecstatic that the sun rose.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_05: Because it's that's Teva, like you're saying.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_05: Because it's supposed to rise.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_05: So I felt I didn't think about it.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_05: When I get in the car, I drive, I know that things will work and the lights will be red and green, and so on and so forth.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_05: And that's just the way I'm operating in an environment that is predictable.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_05: The environment, not the outcomes of whether I make money or blah blah blah blah blah.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_05: And now I can't.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_05: Do you ever do you ever question?
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_05: No, let me ask it a different way.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_05: Do you ever feel strong gratitude that you can book a flight, go to Florida, see your relatives, or go to LA and see your relatives and have a good time and go and book?
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_05: You're gonna go on a honeymoon soon, right?
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm gonna go in a honeymoon and I have total freedom to do that.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_05: They didn't have that in Russia in 1929 and 30, etc., right?
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_05: And certainly after the war, they didn't have freedom of movement.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_05: Did you kiss the ground every time you got back to you get back, you you come home saying, wow, I'm free.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_05: I can do whatever I want in America.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_05: You probably didn't feel that way.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so that's the way so call it Teva.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_05: Now what?
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: So now be more grateful, be more appreciative.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_01: But it's connect more to Hashem's Shefah and Bracha and all the most amazing things that he is still giving you and has given you, and trust that he's going to continue to protect you and guide you and everything.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_05: So are you are you saying that?
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_05: So this is what the wake-up call people say that they're gonna say, you know what, you haven't been grateful, you haven't been trusting.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_05: So God has sent the Muslim Brotherhood to Philadelphia.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: I I mean, what what am I gonna tell you?
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't think it's a bad thing to check in with yourself and make sure that you were aligned properly with um the the the true and real perspective that the Rebbe has gifted us and showed us when he taught listen, there was so much negativity that was going on in the world, and then Parsha Shoiftium part uh, you know, Tuftshinton base.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_01: He's saying the the Friday Kareba is in charge of the whole UN and the UN and there's a reflection of the He didn't say the Friday Kareba is in charge of the UN.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_05: He said that there is He said the UN came to where it came to because of the Friday Kareba.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_01: He says it's being influenced, whatever.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, influence the world.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: I was I was I was okay, I was being more dramatic than I mean.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, okay, thank you.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: But but ultimately he picked one thing that was going on in the UN, which he called the house of darkness.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_01: But he picked one thing of an initiative that was happening, and then he he ascribed it to being the the swords going becoming into plow shares.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: Did that ignore all of the other negative things that were happening around on the contrary?
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_05: If you look at the numbers, there was more peace and quiet in the world than ever before.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_05: I think there was less wars than ever before.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_05: That was that's a fact.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: I I think that has continued over the past 30 years.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: I think crime and war and death in general has continued to go down.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_01: How do you understand?
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_01: There's tremendous statistics.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know if you're tapped in, and I'm not here to encourage you to have anxiety, but I don't think you're tapped into what's going on.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_05: We're talking about a global shutdown on Jews.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_01: I got it.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_01: I I'm not saying Jews in particular are doing so hot in the global uh um uh vision um uh PR.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not claiming that that's the case.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying there are a lot, again, it's a reorientation of have I been relying on Teva on the the nations for protection, comfortability, the the American dream, the feeling of safety and security, et cetera, et cetera, or can I focus more on Hashem and his good graces and desire to protect his nation?
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so you're saying to me, what I hear from you is saying obviously it's a rhetorical question, first of all, that you're asking.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_05: And second of all, is that because I have been relying on the way I've been relying you're going to suggest one of two things or both.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_05: Either it's because I was relying too much on Teva, this has happened.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_05: There's a Sikha like that about poor.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_05: And or if I change my position mentally and emotionally, etc., it'll change the world around us.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: Betakin.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: The mitzvah of betachin.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_01: That's why it works, because it's a mitzvah as the Rabbi says.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I know.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_05: I know the um I know the Sikha.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_05: I'm thinking about it, you know what?
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think it is what you're suggesting for me.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna tell you what I think it is.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_05: Oddly enough, from a person who's producing a podcast and speaking on a podcast and producing some sort of public film works.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_05: I feel uncomfortable being the topic of conversation.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_05: That's my anxiety.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_05: The Jews by nature want to be left alone.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_05: By nature, we want to um the more s I guess at the optimum levels, we just want to be in the base magistrate and leave me alone.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_05: I want to be dominating and leave me alone.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_05: I want to have a nice community and family and leave me alone.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_05: Everything should be royak, peaceful.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_05: And now we're all the topic of focus of conversation.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's where um I think the brother addressed that before and says it was because we didn't teach Shavon Mitsuzbene Noah enough, and that was the reason why it's negative instead of empire.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_05: So maybe that's the wake-up call.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_05: Perhaps.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_05: Um, because the person who suggested the wake-up call concept was a person who would believe that God, you know, is looking to sh to crush you because he's pissed off, you know.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well, that's a lot of way people look at it.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_05: Sure.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_05: I also thought it was interesting that all of this is happening on the same happened the next morning, of course, on the same day that all the Schluchem were coming in for the kinas.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_05: I wonder whether there'll be a statement coming out of Chabad about the elections.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_05: You know, the I was watching, I'm sure there won't be also.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_05: I'll be I mean, I'm thinking.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_05: The ADL put out a stupid, idiotic, maim, maimed chakalata statement, how terrible it is the statements these people are making.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_05: You know, I think the more appropriate is, you know, every Jew with a 22, not from your weak little political morality com comment, because that's like no one's listening, anyways, number one.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and it makes you feel good that you said that.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_05: I think they're gonna say, oh, you know, I'm wrong.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_05: I I should have been nicer.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_05: Um doesn't work that way.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_05: So Shavam Mitzbinain Noech.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_05: So you're saying that because we didn't push Shabimitsuz Nainoach, the nations of the world are hungry for the Shabimitzbeney Noah.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know if you want to apply that here.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_01: I could see how you would.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_04: Well, make up your mind, man.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just I'm giving ideas.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know if you Oh, you don't want to be definitive?
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: No, I don't I don't have a definitive um feeling of what the message is, even, but I what I'm what I was responding to, which I think is important, is the acknowledgement of an anxiety that you have or had today that uh you could you could grow from.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, I see.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_05: It's all about my growth.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_05: Uh-huh.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_05: So, you know, there was an interview last week with Moisha Faglin, the politician, and on a on I think it was a Canadian, based on his answer, it was a Canadian broadcasting, uh, some sort of Canadian representation of media.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_05: And it was, I was flabbergasted.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_05: Did you see it?
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_05: So for those of joining us, maybe they didn't see it.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_05: So the woman asks him, the interviewer asks him, Aren't you concerned about the um public perception?
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_05: The perception of Yidden that you're losing PR and so what that the what the world thinks of you?
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_05: And he goes, This is Israel.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_05: We're the moral, holy, bible carrying land.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_05: You should be worried about what you th we think about you.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_05: I couldn't believe you said that.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_05: And that is the truth.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_05: If we're holding there, that is the truth.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_05: That so you're saying a similar thing.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_05: You're saying, Shabba Mizz bin Anoya, if you think like a giver of Shheva Mizbinach, then you talk to the world like that.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_05: Right?
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_05: Which is kind of a little bit what he was doing.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_05: He turned it on this woman who the interviewer, uh, and it was beautiful, and it's true.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_05: Truth is beautiful, right?
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_01: So um and what's that line that uh I saw recently that whatever you focus on grows, whatever you're gonna put your energy into is what's gonna grow.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_01: So if you're feeding what you feed, that's right.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_05: What you feed grows.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_01: What you feed grows.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: So therefore, uh if you're afraid, if you're anxious, that's going to be what grows.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_01: And that's so it's to take that anxiety.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but I think you're I think you're missing the application here.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_05: I think you're missing the application here.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_05: What are you feeling?
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_05: Go back to Faglin and what he said.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_05: What are you feeding?
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_05: We're feeding a vacuum.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_05: We're feeding leaders, we're we're feeding uh no leadership.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_05: We're feeding complacency, we're feeding weakness, that's for sure.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_05: Me, when I say we and and the you know what I saw today?
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: Tell me.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_05: I saw and I don't know even the names involved, some uh religious looking dude quoting a religious looking picture of a book.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't see the book that said that he all the poisic almost would want to say that you can break Shabbos for a person who's depressed.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_05: Like it's Pakuk Nefesh.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_05: Think about that.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_05: And that pak that depression is a so common in our generation.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_05: Right?
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_05: And we're not even talking about medical um or institutionalized depression, like that would put you in institution.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_05: We're talking about, you know, I'm just you know, like today I woke up with anxiety, right?
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_05: Um so without getting into the sharpest thing, which I don't, you know, I can't address but the Jewish depression comes from gullus and gullus is a lack of ability of expression.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_05: Right?
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_05: Ghoula is expression, gula is simcha, ghoula is revealing God.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_05: It's all about expression.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_05: And our job is to be Mishpiya is to exp is is to be that expression, right?
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_01: So it's almost like if you are doing it properly, what you're describing now, you're gonna keep Shabbos more.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_01: And like, what do I mean by that?
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_01: And obviously, I'm not arguing with a holy rabbi, I'm not gonna argue anybody about this, but the but the idea of like what does it mean to keep Shabbos more, right?
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you people even that statement is like, what does that mean?
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_05: If I'm not I think you misunderstood.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_05: What do you mean keep Shabbos more?
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_01: That's my response to what you're saying is the Gaula version of or the the holier version of what you're supposed to build to.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_01: So what I'm saying by like keeping Shabbos more is like not that like you don't turn on lights or you don't use your phone more, it's like you keep Shabbos more, it's like you get more into the keeping of Shabbos, like what Shabbos is there for and what you could get out of it.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_05: Keep Shabbos more's gullus.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: What does that mean?
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_05: Keep Shabbos more is like you're saying, it doesn't make any sense.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_05: You can't keep you can't not use your phone phone more.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_05: I know that's on Shabbos.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_05: So what does it mean by more?
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_05: Wait, wait.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_05: So you're saying, well, I don't know how you got to this whole more part, but how do you get to more?
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_05: How how do you do more Shabbos?
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_05: To say I do more Shabbos and I will, so to speak, use my phone even less, even more.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_05: I say it's gullus, is because it's based on the outside.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_05: That's not an expression of you, that's an expression of Shabbos, that you don't use your phone.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_05: Where's the expression of you?
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_01: But what I was saying is there's the the guarding of Shabbos, yeah, and then there's the actual being in Shabbos in the spirit of Shabbos.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_01: So that's your answer.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_05: So what does it mean?
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_05: What does it mean to keep Shabbos more to dominate more what you're expressing, right?
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: To learn more, to get more into the Naguna.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_01: What does it mean in the life?
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_05: And what does it mean regarding our discussion about the elections and America and Gula and the Rabbi said Mashik is here?
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_05: What does it mean?
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_05: More expression of what?
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_05: Of my of my avoiding what I'm looking at?
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_01: No, of you, of your expression.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_01: Your experience of that, of seeing Hashem in your life, in the world.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_01: Seeing a Shem is an expression of him.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_05: I want to know where the expression of me is.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_05: Or is that not allowed?
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's absolutely allowed.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_01: Your your koi is coming online, as we've always talked about.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: The the expression of you being fully.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_05: So, okay, so what is the expression fully of me in regards to what is my answer?
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_05: What is the expression of me in regards to this real, tangible, don't fool yourself threat.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: Tell me, tell me.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_05: I'm throwing up the question.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_01: I think you have to ask yourself that question.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if that's an answered question by anybody but yourself, and maybe yours Mishpia.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_05: Um other words, you know the the the last mimer that I ever gave out Atatitsava.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_05: And he asks the question how do the people who came from from the other side of the Iron Curtain come into America after so much Monsieur Snefish, and they just get like cozy into the American zeitgeist that he it doesn't make any sense because they had Monsieur Snefish in Russia.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_05: The answer is, in essence, there was no opposition in America.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_05: Outside of the fight.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, outside of opposition.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_05: To fight on the level of, let's say, you know, we had freedom here.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_05: Again, we had freedom here.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_05: We're back to that word freedom.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_05: And I don't know, does Rebbe answer on that, Mimer?
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, what does he say?
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_01: He says that the opposition that's within of the fact that we're still in Gullus and that we're still lacking is the focus point of a person in order to have their own, you know, crushing of the of the olives.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_05: So he's the Rebbe says over there that the thing that crushes you, that you may have light, but somebody doesn't, and therefore the light that you have is limited.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_05: So well, how does that apply to to you and I today?
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_05: Did you ever think about it?
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_05: What does that mean?
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_05: I have light and somebody else doesn't.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_05: And therefore I'm Sabrachan, because my light that I have means that it's limited.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_05: Because somebody else doesn't have.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_05: It's an interesting mind, right?
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_05: Um so which is you know, again, let's so are we gonna lose you know, when I was fighting I'm recalling when I was uh fighting for the menorah and white plains, um it was at the same time that the Kremlin was gonna have a menorah lit there.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_05: And I was on ABC radio on the actually on the Curtis Lee Sleewa show, and I got up also at at the uh council of the of White Plains, the meeting they had.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_05: Council meeting, and I said, I don't understand.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_05: The Kremlin is allowing a menorah to be lit, but White Plains isn't?
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_05: And I called on who was fighting me was the American Jewish I don't remember which one is which, committee or AJC.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_05: And um they're the kind of left-wing woke Jewish group.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_05: And I said, there's no more Cossacks coming around the hill that you can't, you know, light your menorah, look at the Kremlin, right?
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_05: Um But I somehow I thought to myself, and I didn't say it, of course, is that how many different expressions are gonna be in the park with the menorah?
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_05: Right?
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_05: And maybe that's what they're they're worried about, which is why I said that there's no more Cossacks coming around the mountain.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_05: Don't worry about it.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_05: Why are you so fearful?
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so am I feeling Cossacks now?
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_05: Um and now we're coming to Hanukkah in a few more weeks.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_05: We're not so far away.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yutas Kislev.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_05: And so what is the you know, I'm not we're not gonna answer it here.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_05: What is the puula?
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_05: The situation is real.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_05: That's for sure.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_05: Don't think the situation is not real.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_05: There are people who don't like us en masse and they want to do something about it, and they want to marginalize, blah, blah, blah.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_05: And there's kids on campus having a hard time, etc., etc., etc.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_05: What do we do with it?
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_05: What's the Gula Dika response?
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_05: I did ask myself that around three o'clock this afternoon, and I calmed down, but I don't have an answer.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe um let's find let's think about it and let's get back to everybody.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_01: Or maybe you just have to all everybody has to just ask themselves that question and answer it for themselves.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_05: You know, unless I'm r uh you know, gonna lead a charge of, you know, horsemen or something.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, everyone has to um I'm just talking about for myself.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_05: But um yeah, I mean what's okay, so it's based on what you just said before, it's not so much are you relying on Teva for your protection.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_05: It's do you believe your lease on life from the Abish though has run out in terms of security.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_05: Like why would you I mean so you know it's it's it's just an interesting very interesting um crossroads that we're at.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_05: And it's gotta be part of the journey of Gula.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely is.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_05: And I hope you get on your white Mashiach horse and ride into the sunrise.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_03: I make it a lot of you've been listening to the street for that life.