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  Speaker 1: I'm Chris Hansen right now on Crime Launch Daily, A
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  Speaker 1: trusted teacher turns predator.
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  Speaker 2: How many times did you have sex with the student?
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  Speaker 3: A few hundred times?
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  Speaker 1: She was twenty four, he was only seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: You called him baby kicks and he called you his empress.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, busted, shamed and fired. Now working as a stripper.
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  Speaker 3: I never want to see him again.
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  Speaker 1: But is there torrid affair really over where? We just
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  Speaker 1: caught the forbidden lover.
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  Speaker 4: We know she's breaking the law by seeing you.
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  Speaker 1: Then a troubling mystery in Kansas City. A woman is missing,
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  Speaker 1: her car torched, and the last man she was seen
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  Speaker 1: with is under a wreckt Now we reveal his scary past.
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  Speaker 1: His ex girlfriend is missing too.
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  Speaker 5: She basically explained to him that she did I want
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  Speaker 5: to be with him anymore. Then he said he kind of.
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  Speaker 6: Just freaked out.
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  Speaker 1: Crime Watch Daily breaks news on this developing story. Plus,
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  Speaker 1: she was an all American girl.
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  Speaker 7: She loved life and she lived it to the fullest.
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  Speaker 1: They were your typical teenagers in love. Something dark was
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  Speaker 1: lurking underneath.
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  Speaker 8: As police started calling friends and family, everyone brought up
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  Speaker 8: the common theme.
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  Speaker 1: When one of them disappears. A neighbor helps crack the case.
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  Speaker 8: They thought they saw an arm sticking out of this
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  Speaker 8: bundle of blankets right now.
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  Speaker 9: Andrea Isiamser with Crimewatch Daily.
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  Speaker 4: Jason Mattarua Crime Watch Daily.
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  Speaker 10: Michelle from Crime Watch Daily, Anagarcia from Crime Watch is
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  Speaker 10: crime Watch Daily property.
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  Speaker 2: We'll find you again, we always do.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome to Crime Watch Daily. I'm Chris Hansen.
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  Speaker 1: We start with a headline making national epidemic teachers being
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  Speaker 1: busted for having sex with their students. Most of the time,
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  Speaker 1: these suspects do their best to crawl into a hole
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  Speaker 1: after they're arrested. That is not the case when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to Mary Beth Haglin. Today, our Jason Mattera is
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  Speaker 1: confronting the outspoken teacher on her forbidden love.
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  Speaker 11: Chris Cedar, Rapids, Iowa, a small town with a population
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  Speaker 11: barely big enough to fill the Los Angeles Colisseum, is
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  Speaker 11: now at the center of a salacious sex scandal. A
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  Speaker 11: twenty four year old, beautiful substitute teacher at this high
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  Speaker 11: school admits to hooking up at one of the students,
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  Speaker 11: having sex with him more than a hundred times. Mary
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  Speaker 11: Beth Haglin is a pretty teacher who always wanted to
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  Speaker 11: instruct children, But within just months of achieving her goal,
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  Speaker 11: Mary Beth threw it all away by giving one student
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  Speaker 11: some very private lessons.
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  Speaker 2: How many times did you have sex with the student?
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  Speaker 3: It was? I can't even count, perhaps a few hundred times.
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  Speaker 11: Now, she's telling her side of the story to Crime
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  Speaker 11: Watch Daily. The twenty four year old had a bright
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  Speaker 11: future with a degree in English and Spanish. She was
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  Speaker 11: awarded the prestigious Full Right Scholarship. After graduating, Mary Beth
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  Speaker 11: became a substitute teacher.
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  Speaker 2: And when you started to teach, how did that make
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  Speaker 2: you feel?
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  Speaker 3: I enjoyed it so much. With subbing, it's a little
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  Speaker 3: bit different because you never know what kind of situation
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  Speaker 3: you're getting into, especially if it's day to day subbing.
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  Speaker 11: The situation mary Beth got herself into a taboo relationship
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  Speaker 11: with the seventeen year old high school student.
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  Speaker 2: How did you meet the student?
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  Speaker 3: This particular student was in my class when I was
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  Speaker 3: a student teacher. He was a good student, and I
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  Speaker 3: always like to reconnect with my better students.
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  Speaker 11: But to say Mary Beth reconnected was an understatement. The
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  Speaker 11: young teacher who rotated among different schools one day found
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  Speaker 11: herself back at the place where she and the student
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  Speaker 11: first met.
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  Speaker 3: He saw me again at Washington High School subbing one day.
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  Speaker 3: He came in to say hi, and I welcomed that.
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  Speaker 11: But that chat in the classroom quickly turned from innocent
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  Speaker 11: to indecent and more than that, downright illegal.
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  Speaker 3: He contacted me on Facebook. It was very persistent in
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  Speaker 3: his contact. He kept asking me to go to coffee,
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  Speaker 3: or to go to lunch, or just hi, how are you?
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  Speaker 3: Why won't you answer me?
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  Speaker 11: Mary Beth claims that at the time, she was in
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  Speaker 11: an abusive relationship with her then boyfriend. One night, after
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  Speaker 11: what she calls a particularly horrible episode with her ex,
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  Speaker 11: she reached out for comfort from her soon to be
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  Speaker 11: teenage lover. When was the first time you had sexual
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  Speaker 11: contact with the student?
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  Speaker 3: We had gone to a corn maze in a neighboring town,
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  Speaker 3: and we went to Beaver Park, which was kind of
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  Speaker 3: our out spot. We sat in his parked car and
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  Speaker 3: he started kissing me, and he started touching me.
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  Speaker 11: After their first encounter, twenty four year old Mary Beth
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  Speaker 11: says she and her student are confronted by police as
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  Speaker 11: they sat in the car.
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  Speaker 2: Did it ever crossed your mind. Wow, my gosh, I
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  Speaker 2: just royally screwed myself.
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  Speaker 3: Well, to be honest, I didn't have much time to
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  Speaker 3: think that because the police actually interrupted us. They thought
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  Speaker 3: that I was being raped. I just said no, this
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  Speaker 3: was consensual.
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  Speaker 11: Because it was right after the police incident, the forbidden
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  Speaker 11: relationship heated up even more. Mary Beth and her teen
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  Speaker 11: dream boy rendezvoing for dinner in nearby towns places they
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  Speaker 11: wouldn't be recognized, hooking up at his mom's house when
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  Speaker 11: she wasn't home, and of course at Beaver Park in
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  Speaker 11: their mobile love shack the boys car. Most teachers want
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  Speaker 11: to be positive role models for their students, one of
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  Speaker 11: the reasons why they get into the.
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  Speaker 2: Profession of teaching.
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  Speaker 11: But your vehicle to be that positive role model and
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  Speaker 11: shape this kid was to have sex with him.
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  Speaker 3: You have to remember that when this was all happening,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't see him as a student. I saw this
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  Speaker 3: as a real relationship.
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  Speaker 11: And like many couples, they had pet names for each other.
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  Speaker 3: He would call me his Empress. He would call me
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  Speaker 3: his lobster because lobster's mate for life.
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  Speaker 11: So you called him baby kicks, and he called you
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  Speaker 11: his empress. Yes, the saucy sub sent sexy selfies to
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  Speaker 11: her underage lover, but the romance began to unravel when
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  Speaker 11: Mary Beth says he betrayed her and share the racy
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  Speaker 11: snaps with his friends.
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  Speaker 3: I sent him a lot and he saved all of them,
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  Speaker 3: and then he shared them with all of his friends
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  Speaker 3: and they posted them on Twitter. Mark my words, when
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  Speaker 3: the student turns eighteen, I will be prosecuting for sharing
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  Speaker 3: all of those nude photos.
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  Speaker 11: The provocative photos spread like wildfire. Their secret relationship exposed.
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  Speaker 11: Mary Beth says the kids at school were relentless.
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  Speaker 3: They would interrupt class to ask about it.
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  Speaker 2: Be serious, I'm serious, intro class and say what.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, miss Haglin. We know that this is the student.
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  Speaker 11: The dangerous liaison was spiraling out of control. Mary Beth
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  Speaker 11: claims she wanted to end it, but was terrified that
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  Speaker 11: her young lover would retaliate and tell the school principle. Eventually,
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  Speaker 11: word about her extracurricular activities got back to school administrators,
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  Speaker 11: but she says they ignored the rumors, and so she
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  Speaker 11: continued to carry on her relationship with the high school boy.
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  Speaker 11: And that may be true, but you're not blaming the
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  Speaker 11: school for your having sex with the student.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, certainly not.
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  Speaker 11: But with her photos flooding social media, the school finally
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  Speaker 11: took action.
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  Speaker 2: How did you finally get busted?
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  Speaker 3: The administration called me down into their office. They started
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  Speaker 3: to interrogate me, and by the end the principal said, well,
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  Speaker 3: in light of everything, we are going to ask you
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  Speaker 3: to pack up everything, any personal items that you have upstairs,
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  Speaker 3: and please leave.
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  Speaker 11: Mary Beth was fired from her job, but continue to
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  Speaker 11: substitute teach in other school districts, allegedly because of a miscommunication.
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  Speaker 11: She was not removed from the available teacher list and oversite.
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  Speaker 11: Mary Beth disputes, it.
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  Speaker 3: Was not a miscommunication that I was still in the system.
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  Speaker 3: Washington High School staff did not let the substitute system
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  Speaker 3: know why I should not be in the system, and.
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  Speaker 11: The district never reported her to authorities or press criminal charges.
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  Speaker 11: Watch Daily contacted the school for a comment, but they
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  Speaker 11: never returned our calls.
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  Speaker 3: He said, don't worry. We're gonna get through this, whether
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  Speaker 3: we have to leave town and go to Minnesota or
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  Speaker 3: New York or hack even another country.
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  Speaker 2: And what's racing through your mind?
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  Speaker 3: I'm busted up.
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  Speaker 4: Next the torrid affair.
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  Speaker 11: Mary Beth comes face to face with the law and
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  Speaker 11: you'll never guess where the former teacher is working. Hey,
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  Speaker 11: come here, I'm up or should I? We talked to
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  Speaker 11: at Bambi? Which one let me Bambi or Mary Beth?
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  Speaker 11: Crime Watch Daily tracks her down and finds a shocking surprise.
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  Speaker 1: Now back to today's Crime Watch Daily investigation. Forbidden Love.
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  Speaker 1: Mary Beth Hagelin can't stop gushing about the guy she loves.
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  Speaker 1: The problem is she was his teacher and he was
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  Speaker 1: only seventeen. The state forbid them from seeing each other,
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  Speaker 1: but our Jason and Tara busted them getting back together.
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  Speaker 11: A pretty teacher and a seventeen year old student engage
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  Speaker 11: in naughty after school activities. The Sexcapaid secretly sizzled for
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  Speaker 11: nine months and included racy love letters.
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  Speaker 3: I love the way you smell like pizza after a
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  Speaker 3: long day of work, and it drives me crazy wanting
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  Speaker 3: a piece of the crust.
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  Speaker 11: The remain rendezvous spot the teenager's car at a local park.
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  Speaker 4: Do you consider yourself a sexual predator?
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  Speaker 3: I don't. That was a time in my life that
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  Speaker 3: was just so out of character for me, and I
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  Speaker 3: wholly regret my actions and just the person that I
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  Speaker 3: was at that time, But anybody who knows me can
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  Speaker 3: tell you that that's not who I am.
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  Speaker 11: But the illicit relationship comes to a grinding halt when
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  Speaker 11: twenty four year old Mary Beth Haglin is busted.
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  Speaker 2: What does your family think of this entire ordeal?
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  Speaker 3: Mind? Dad cried and my mother yelled at me. They
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  Speaker 3: were not happy.
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  Speaker 11: After her teen lover's mom goes to police and files
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  Speaker 11: a report, the substitute teacher turns herself in.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think you were in love with the student?
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  Speaker 3: In my mind? I was. We certainly said it often
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  Speaker 3: enough to each other.
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  Speaker 2: Do you love him today?
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  Speaker 3: No? I never want to see him again, So.
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  Speaker 11: Once he turned eighteen, you're not planning on contacting him,
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  Speaker 11: not at all. Here's Mary Beth in her mugshot, looking
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  Speaker 11: plain Jane, wearing specs and a little smirf, very different
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  Speaker 11: from the girl in those selfies, made up with a
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  Speaker 11: dramatic cat eye, sticking her tongue out and pouting for
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  Speaker 11: the camera. Mary Beth pleaded not guilty, charged with sexual
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  Speaker 11: exploitation by a school employee. If convicted, she could face
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  Speaker 11: up to two years in prison and spend the next
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  Speaker 11: ten on the sex offender registry.
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  Speaker 2: Do you ever think that would be your life?
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  Speaker 3: No? I thought that I was going to teach, and
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  Speaker 3: that I was going to one day get married and
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  Speaker 3: and have a family. I never thought that I was
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  Speaker 3: going to be rich or famous, and now I well,
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  Speaker 3: I have infamy, one thing that I never wanted.
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  Speaker 11: After Mary Beth was fired from her teaching job, she
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  Speaker 11: worked as a server at a local pizza joint and
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  Speaker 11: at a clothing store. But those gigs didn't last long.
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  Speaker 3: Yesterday I found out that one of my jobs isn't
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  Speaker 3: even going to let me return. They just said, nope,
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  Speaker 3: you can't come back at all.
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing now?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not working?
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  Speaker 4: Well, she is working now.
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  Speaker 11: And look where we found her working the stripper pole
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  Speaker 11: at Woodi's a strip joined along a lonely highway just
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  Speaker 11: a few miles from the school where she used to teach.
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  Speaker 11: Take a look at this video that we've uncovered of
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  Speaker 11: the saucy former substitute teacher perched in a customer's lap
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  Speaker 11: and performing for much older pupils. And take a look
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  Speaker 11: at Mary BET's other shocking video. This was shot just
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  Speaker 11: a few days after she told us she never wanted
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  Speaker 11: to see her, forbid and love her again.
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  Speaker 3: And it's only a few more weeks until my people
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  Speaker 3: love it turns eighteen and then I can finally appe together.
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  Speaker 3: I love you in my lobster.
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  Speaker 4: So which is it?
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  Speaker 11: I'm not convinced that twenty four year old actually wants
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  Speaker 11: to end things with the student, so I went to
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  Speaker 11: Woodies to ask her myself.
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  Speaker 4: So we're outside.
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  Speaker 11: Woodies, that's where Mary Beth works, and she is under
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  Speaker 11: a court order not to have any contact with the
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  Speaker 11: student or she goes back to jail. Guess what we
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  Speaker 11: just saw the student go into Woodies? Are they breaking
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  Speaker 11: the law for love?
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  Speaker 4: My hunch was correct.
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  Speaker 11: They're under fluorescent light in the darkened club is Mary Beth, and,
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  Speaker 11: for the first time seen on camera, her student. The
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  Speaker 11: couple locked in a deep conversation that lasted for about
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  Speaker 11: thirty minutes, but then the newly legal eighteen year old
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  Speaker 11: abruptly leaves.
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  Speaker 4: Could the two have had a spat?
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  Speaker 11: I catch up with mary Beth's boy toy as he
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  Speaker 11: leaves the club.
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  Speaker 4: What are you doing here at wood Ees? Here to
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  Speaker 4: see Mary Beth. My lawyer's name is Anne Brown. She
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  Speaker 4: know she's breaking the law by seeing you.
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  Speaker 1: She looks for she works in seat rapids. You can
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  Speaker 1: speak to my lawyer and.
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  Speaker 4: Mary Beth is under a court order not to see you.
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  Speaker 4: She's no further connor. You're a victim of a such trust.
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  Speaker 10: You would like to discuss anything, you can speak with
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  Speaker 10: my lawyer, Ann Brown.
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  Speaker 4: Did Marybeth give you a lap dance?
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  Speaker 11: Crime Watch Daily reached out to the student's lawyer, who
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  Speaker 11: responded no comment. Next up, Mary Beth poured into a
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  Speaker 11: leopard bodysuit, exits the club.
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  Speaker 4: Hey come here.
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  Speaker 11: Or should uh? We talked to as Bambi, which one
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  Speaker 11: um let me Bambi or Marybeth. We know you're under
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  Speaker 11: a court order not to have any contact with but
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  Speaker 11: he actually was inside today.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, he came in and he found me and he
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  Speaker 12: said that he wanted and to come back at two,
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  Speaker 12: and so I told him and I said, you need
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  Speaker 12: to walk me out because I don't want that to happen.
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  Speaker 11: But sooner Wood He's bouncer tries to boot us out. Man,
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  Speaker 11: that's fine, We're we're we're not on your property. And
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  Speaker 11: there was a violation of a quarter that took just
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  Speaker 11: took place.
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  Speaker 4: So just let me finish the questions. You pleaded not guilty, but.
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  Speaker 11: You admitted to having sex with this teenager over a
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  Speaker 11: hundred times.
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  Speaker 4: Sounds guilty.
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  Speaker 3: That's the way the court process works to bring it
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  Speaker 3: down your way, stunt.
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  Speaker 4: Don't worry.
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  Speaker 11: We've I've already interviewed Bambi. Any plans to meet up
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  Speaker 11: at Beaver Park or is it no over?
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  Speaker 13: But no?
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  Speaker 12: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: No more beaver Park?
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  Speaker 11: No more beaver Park?
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  Speaker 4: But is what he's a new meetup spot?
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  Speaker 3: It's not.
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  Speaker 11: But here's why I don't fully believe you, because after
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  Speaker 11: we did the interview with you, and I have flat
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  Speaker 11: out asked you, you're still in love with him?
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  Speaker 4: Do you care for him?
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  Speaker 11: Do you plan to reconnect with him? You said no,
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  Speaker 11: you were a post and then literally just a few
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  Speaker 11: days later, you said no, you were in love with him,
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  Speaker 11: and you were calling him your lobster and that saying
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  Speaker 11: that you guys were going to rekindle things.
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  Speaker 2: How do you feel?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It's very confusing.
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  Speaker 3: It's confusing because of all of those.
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  Speaker 12: Emotions that I had before, and I don't know how
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  Speaker 12: I'm supposed to feel now, and I don't want to
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  Speaker 12: feel that way.
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  Speaker 11: So let's say you didn't have a court order, would
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  Speaker 11: you be with him?
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  Speaker 6: Where did you go?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 11: Then Mary Beth aka Bambi is whissed off by what
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  Speaker 11: he's bouncers, Bambi, do you want to answer more? Guess
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  Speaker 11: she's done for the night. But the questions are looming.
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  Speaker 11: What happens if the judge this video? Will she get
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  Speaker 11: sent back to the slammer? We do know one thing
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  Speaker 11: is for sure. If that happens, Mary Beth will be
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  Speaker 11: hanging up that g string for a jail house jumpsuit.
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  Speaker 1: If convicted, Hagland faces up to two years in prison
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  Speaker 1: for the sexual exploitation charge and could go on the
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  Speaker 1: state's sex offender registry for up to ten years. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we want to hear from you. If you were this
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  Speaker 1: kid's parents, would you let him see Haglin now that
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  Speaker 1: he's eighteen? Tweet us your answer at Crime Watch Daily
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  Speaker 1: coming up. Two missing women one thing in common. This
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  Speaker 1: man his ex girlfriend vanished years ago now while he's
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  Speaker 1: under arrest. In another disturbing mystery, it was the rodeo
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  Speaker 1: queen in her high school boyfriend the Picture of Young
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  Speaker 1: Love until.
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  Speaker 8: Japanese in their process of investigating, they talk to a
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  Speaker 8: neighbor who says that they saw something disturbing.
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  Speaker 1: That's coming up. Now to a breaking story out of Missouri.
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  Speaker 1: A young woman is missing. Kyler Ust has just been
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  Speaker 1: taken into custody and it's not the first time our
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  Speaker 1: Andrea Isiam has investigated him. Andrea is in Kansas City
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  Speaker 1: right now, Hey, Andrea.
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  Speaker 4: That is right.
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  Speaker 9: Chris Kyler has been questioned extensively about the disappearance of
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  Speaker 9: his ex girlfriend, Kara Kopetski, but he has never been charged. Now,
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  Speaker 9: on the same day our story aired about Kara, another
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  Speaker 9: young woman has gone missing, and according to family, Kyler
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  Speaker 9: was the last person to be seen with her.
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  Speaker 1: A twenty one year old girl disappears, her car is
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: found abandoned and torched on the side of the road,
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  Speaker 1: and as of just a few days ago, the last
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: person she was seen with alive, Kyler Hust was placed
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: under arrest but for what. You may not know his
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: face now, but to our regular Crime Watch daily viewers,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: he may look familiar. Several months ago, we brought to
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: you the story of missing Missouri Team Kara Kopetski.
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  Speaker 14: I don't even believe that car is a missing person.
• 19:02
  Speaker 15: I believe she was murdered.
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  Speaker 1: She was last seen in this surveillance video leaving her
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: school just hours before she vanished.
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  Speaker 15: That kid loved me and I loved her and who
• 19:14
  Speaker 15: we were a family.
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  Speaker 1: It was only a few days after Kara had filed
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  Speaker 1: a protection order against her abusive on again, off again boyfriend,
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  Speaker 1: The man who had not long before that abducted her
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  Speaker 1: from work and threatened to slit her throat, the same
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: man police arrested just days ago, kyler Ust. It was
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday of last week, September seventh, when, just before going
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  Speaker 1: to bed, twenty one year old Remore, Missouri resident Jessica
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  Speaker 1: Runyans sent this simple text to her mom, sweet Dreams.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: After that a picture of herself and her cat Tig.
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  Speaker 1: It would be their last communication. The next day, Thursday,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: September eighth, the same day our story about Kara Kopetski aired,
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  Speaker 1: Jessica was seen at a party with kyler Ust. No
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  Speaker 1: one has seen her since.
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  Speaker 11: Always sweet girl, Always cared a lot about folks, Always
• 20:09
  Speaker 11: wanted to give people the benefit of doubt.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Friday, Jessica's mom filed a missing person's report with police,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: then started reaching out to her daughter's friend. In this
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  Speaker 1: desperate text to another boy who was at the party,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: she writes, please, if you know where I can find
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  Speaker 1: my daughter, let me know. I filed a missing person's report.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: I need to know she is okay, And with the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: boy's response, Jessica's mom gets her first clue. I'm sorry,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I don't he says. She left with Kyler for Kara
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Kopetski's parents. Talking to our affiliate WDAF just a few
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: days ago, it feels like more than just a coincidence.
• 20:45
  Speaker 14: We heard about Jessica's disappearance first thing Saturday morning, and
• 20:49
  Speaker 14: it was through Facebook, and you know, as you're setting
• 20:54
  Speaker 14: and you're talking to your family and your friends, because
• 20:57
  Speaker 14: of course, everybody's running up to and saying, hey, did
• 21:00
  Speaker 14: you hear Kyler is involved in another girl's disappearance.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: When you learned your daughter's an ex boyfriend.
• 21:07
  Speaker 14: Was like Tom, I knew immediately that that it wasn't
• 21:11
  Speaker 14: a good thing.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: In the aftermath of Kara's disappearance, a whole lot of
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: suspicious eyes started turning toward Kyler, and some, like his
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: old friend Caitlin Ferris, even told us he went as
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: far as to confess to Kara's murder.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: She basically explained to him that she didn't want to
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: be with him anymore. Then he said he kind of.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Just freaked out.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: Things got a little physical, and the next thing he
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: knew is she wasn't breathing.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: And because he.
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  Speaker 9: Trusted you, do you trust that he's telling you the truth?
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: And Caitlyn wasn't even the only one making those claims.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: In this recording made by private detective Marlene Rockwell, another
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: one of Kyler's ex girlfriends, goes into even more detail.
• 21:57
  Speaker 14: In her interview, she describes to be what he did
• 22:00
  Speaker 14: to her and also what he did what he did
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  Speaker 14: to Kara Kopetski.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: One word to describe what we will hear is what
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  Speaker 1: it is.
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  Speaker 16: He's admitted to it to me. He told me he
• 22:13
  Speaker 16: killed her, and he said, I've seen girls faces turned purple?
• 22:19
  Speaker 16: Have you ever seen the life leave someone's eyes? And
• 22:22
  Speaker 16: I got really scared at that point.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: But without any physical evidence, police were not confident enough
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  Speaker 1: they could get a conviction.
• 22:29
  Speaker 17: I want the family to get some type of resolution,
• 22:33
  Speaker 17: but at the same time, I want it the right way.
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  Speaker 2: Who Ever did this I will.
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  Speaker 17: Beet charged someday and When that get charge gets filed,
• 22:41
  Speaker 17: it will stick, I promise.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: But it's been nearly ten years since Kara walked out
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  Speaker 1: those high school doors, and her case remains unsolved.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: One thing I really do pray about is that some
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: night her parents will be able to lay down and
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: know where their daughter's at.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, now there's another family ending their days without their daughter.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Friends and family tell police that they know about Kyler
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: and release this poster which shows Jessica's face and her
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  Speaker 1: black Chevy Equinox. But then just before two Saturday morning, Yeah, that.
• 23:20
  Speaker 10: Vehicle, a black Chevy Equinox, was found behind me here,
• 23:24
  Speaker 10: just off a Blue River road.
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  Speaker 1: Authorities find that charred remains of Jessica's car. Soon after
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: that they find who they think torched it. Kyler used
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: was arrested just this past Sunday for knowingly burning the
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  Speaker 1: vehicle and is currently being held on a fifty thousand
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: dollars cash bond.
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  Speaker 14: Thankfully, they've found enough evidence to lock him up for
• 23:46
  Speaker 14: at least the burning of the car, and they can
• 23:48
  Speaker 14: grow him for information and hopefully he'll break and he
• 23:53
  Speaker 14: will tell anything he knows about Jessica and for us,
• 23:59
  Speaker 14: hopefully break and give up some information about Carr as well.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: To date, Jessica is still missing.
• 24:07
  Speaker 12: The police continue to search for her.
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  Speaker 10: She's twenty one years old.
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  Speaker 6: Her disappearance is considered by the police to be a
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: suspicious missing person's case.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: A spokesman for the Jackson County Prosecutor's Office has declined
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: to comment on the matter for now, telling other media
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: outlets quote the case is now under seal for now.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Just as Kara Kopetski's friends and family have done for years,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: those who know Jessica search desperately for any sign of
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: the girl they love. But then, as we started looking
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: back through our own investigation into Kara's disappearance, we noticed
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: something odd. Months ago before his arrest, our own Andrea
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Isisam tracked Kyler down to his grandfather's house to ask
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: him about Kara. What we had no way of knowing
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: then was who else may have been there? Hello? How
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: are you next on Crime Watch Daily?
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Do you think he killed her?
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: No, we're on the scene at Kyler's when.
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  Speaker 9: Excuse me, ma'am, is there something you can help us with?
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Who else was in that house?
• 25:11
  Speaker 13: With a show called Crime Watch Daily?
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Friend, We're back now with more on the troubling story
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  Speaker 1: of Jessica Runyans, a Kansas City woman who just disappeared.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: It turns out the last man she was seen with,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Kyler EUSt, is connected to another headline making missing person's case.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Andrea Isisam has all new details.
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: Crime Watch Daily brought you the tragic story of Kara Kopetski,
• 25:37
  Speaker 9: a girl who walked out the doors of her high
• 25:39
  Speaker 9: school and disappeared Forever, Sir. Speaking to our affiliate WDAF
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: just days ago, Cara's mom says she still suspects Carra's
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: TX boyfriend, Kyler used in that case.
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  Speaker 14: Well, I've told people over and over and over again,
• 26:05
  Speaker 14: if I had to bet my life on him being
• 26:08
  Speaker 14: responsible for my daughter's disappearance, I would.
• 26:12
  Speaker 9: And yes, Kyler has never been charged with anything in
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: connection with car Is vanishing, but he is in jail
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: now a person of interest in another girl's disappearance.
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  Speaker 11: If he is charged, what do you think should happen
• 26:26
  Speaker 11: to him?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I definitely think he needs to rot in jail,
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: that's for sure. He needs to have some sort of consequences.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: You were both of these cases down.
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  Speaker 9: Twenty one year old Jessica Runyins was last seen leaving
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  Speaker 9: a party with ust in her black Chevy Equinox, a
• 26:43
  Speaker 9: car cops found charred and abandoned on the side of
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: the road. A few days later, Kyler was arrested for
• 26:50
  Speaker 9: knowingly burning that vehicle. But there was something else about
• 26:54
  Speaker 9: that car, something that suddenly jarred my memory. It was
• 26:58
  Speaker 9: just a few months ago when we at Kyler used
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: down to his grandfather's house to ask him about Kara,
• 27:04
  Speaker 9: and oddly enough, as I walked up, I remember seeing
• 27:07
  Speaker 9: this car in the driveway, a black Chevy Equinox. Thinking
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: nothing of it at the time, I tried to get
• 27:15
  Speaker 9: Kyler to come to the door, instead getting his granddad.
• 27:20
  Speaker 13: Hello, how are you.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: My name is Andrea isam.
• 27:24
  Speaker 13: I'm with a show called Crime Watch Daily. We are
• 27:26
  Speaker 13: working on a case about Kara Kopetski, his ex girlfriend,
• 27:34
  Speaker 13: and with a show called Crime Watch Daily, we're trying
• 27:36
  Speaker 13: to help police get some answers so we can give
• 27:38
  Speaker 13: the family some closure and some resolution to this.
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  Speaker 2: The twenty times.
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  Speaker 17: He didn't talk to them, he had nothing else to
• 27:48
  Speaker 17: offer because he has nothing about.
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  Speaker 9: But his denial does little to console her stepdad, Jim.
• 27:55
  Speaker 15: One of her last phone calls was with her boyfriend
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  Speaker 15: and it was like a twenty minute conversation. I think
• 28:04
  Speaker 15: he picked her up. I think they talked, discussed whatever
• 28:08
  Speaker 15: about moving on, and I think that he didn't want
• 28:13
  Speaker 15: to let Cara go.
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  Speaker 10: You truly believe, in your heart of hearts that he
• 28:16
  Speaker 10: did something horrible and criminal to your daughter.
• 28:20
  Speaker 9: Yes, When I pressed Kyler's grandpa on that accusation, he
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: had this to say, if he had something to do
• 28:27
  Speaker 9: with this, what would that do to you?
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: As his grandfather, he would hurt me.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Do you think he killed her? No?
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: No, And you can say that.
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: It was a dramatic moment, but there was another one.
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: We could not have known the significance of them. As
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: I was trying to get Kyler to come down, a
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: young woman briefly came to the door.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, excuse me, ma'am.
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  Speaker 4: Excuse me, ma'am.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Is there something you can help us with?
• 28:56
  Speaker 13: What with a show called crime Watch Daily?
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: So who was that girl with the car in the
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: driveway matching the same make and model as Jessica's. Our
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: producers were curious enough to share that information with police,
• 29:12
  Speaker 9: and they have expressed interest in.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Looking into it further.
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: We'll keep you updated over the coming days as this
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: story continues to develop.
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: I really hope it turns out for the best, you know,
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: I really hope that Jessica is found safe and that
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: the Kopetski family gets some justice.
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: But for now, two families wait for answers and a
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: community clings to hope.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: You've been in touch with Jessica's mom, explain how that went.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Sunday morning.
• 29:41
  Speaker 14: She had reached out to me with her phone number,
• 29:43
  Speaker 14: asking me to call her because she really felt like
• 29:46
  Speaker 14: she needed to talk to somebody that would understand how
• 29:48
  Speaker 14: she felt.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: What did you say? I just call?
• 29:52
  Speaker 14: I called her and I said, Hi, this is around
• 29:54
  Speaker 14: the Beckford. I'm Kark Petsky's mother, And she said, oh,
• 29:58
  Speaker 14: thank you so much for calling. Because when you're in
• 30:02
  Speaker 14: a situation, nobody understands how you feel. But another person
• 30:05
  Speaker 14: with the missing child.
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  Speaker 18: Two families feeling a pain today that no family should
• 30:11
  Speaker 18: ever feel, and right now it's time for you to
• 30:13
  Speaker 18: help them heal. If you have any information on the
• 30:16
  Speaker 18: disappearance of Jessica Runyans or Karl Kopetski, you can leave
• 30:19
  Speaker 18: a tip anonymously at Crimewatchdaily dot com.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Coming up, she had a passion for animals.
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  Speaker 7: We gave her a pony, and then she started taking
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: lessons and she's written ever since.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: But this rodeo queen also fell head over heels for
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: this guy.
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: During her senior year, she started dating Tanner Florized.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: The bad romance that led to a desperate search next.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: All right, now a story we followed very closely here
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: at Crime Watch Daily. A high school romance, a rodeo queen,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: and a terrible tragedy. Here's pat Lalama.
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  Speaker 19: Ashley do little bit as she stood next to her
• 31:01
  Speaker 19: boyfriend Tanner Flores the high school seniors headed a prom.
• 31:06
  Speaker 19: One month later, it would be a different story. From
• 31:12
  Speaker 19: an early age, Ashley had a passion for animals.
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  Speaker 7: Her five year old birthday, we gave her a pony,
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: and then she started taking lessons and she's ridden ever since.
• 31:22
  Speaker 19: To help foster that love of horses, Ashley's family would
• 31:26
  Speaker 19: build a ranch just for her.
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: She loved it out here. She loved the sunsets.
• 31:30
  Speaker 19: They were her life, and the eighteen year old's life
• 31:34
  Speaker 19: was one success story after another. She was president of
• 31:37
  Speaker 19: the local chapter of the Future Farmers of America. She
• 31:40
  Speaker 19: had just graduated high school and earned a scholarship to
• 31:44
  Speaker 19: attend Colorado State's famed Veterinary School in the fall, and
• 31:48
  Speaker 19: maybe the biggest thing in her life. The accomplished writer
• 31:52
  Speaker 19: was about to become the Boulder County Fair Rodeo Queen.
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: She loved life and she lived it to the fullest.
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  Speaker 8: During her senior year, she started dating Tanner.
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  Speaker 19: Floresh kdvr's Kirk Yunkie followed Ashley's case.
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  Speaker 8: And the two were a very typical high school couple
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: young love if you will, taking pictures at dances and
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: posting those pictures all over social media.
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  Speaker 19: One of those from the night of the homecoming dance
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  Speaker 19: with the caption you know you're lucky when you find
• 32:21
  Speaker 19: someone who makes you happy and get to call them yours.
• 32:25
  Speaker 19: Flash forward one year later, Ashley wasn't happy anymore and
• 32:29
  Speaker 19: she told Tanner it was over. Days later she would vanish.
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: She said I love you, and I said I love
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: you back, and that was the last time we talked.
• 32:39
  Speaker 19: Ashley's frantic mother calls Larimer County Sheriffs to report her
• 32:42
  Speaker 19: missing them. They go out looking for the team and
• 32:46
  Speaker 19: find her car at a local reservoir, but there was
• 32:49
  Speaker 19: no sign of Ashley. Where was she?
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: As police started their investigation, they started calling friends and family,
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: and a common theme seemed to be that everyone brought
• 32:59
  Speaker 8: up her ex boyfriend friend Tanner that he had recently
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: been depressed about the two breaking up, and some of
• 33:04
  Speaker 8: his friends even talked about a snapchat that he had
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: just posted that they thought was suicidal in nature.
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  Speaker 19: Even more worrisome, Flores was also missing, and so was
• 33:15
  Speaker 19: the twenty two caliber revolver from his dad's gun cabinet.
• 33:19
  Speaker 19: Detectives pinged the teenagers cell phones and pinpoint a location
• 33:24
  Speaker 19: the vacant home of Tanner's late grandfather, Japanies.
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: In their process of investigating, they talked to a neighbor
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: who says that they saw something disturbing. They apparently saw
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: Tanner pulling what appeared to be a bundle of blankets
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: out of the back of a truck, and they said
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: that when he set this bundle of blankets down on
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: the ground, they even thought they saw an arm sticking
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: out of this bundle of blankets.
• 33:46
  Speaker 19: Squat deputies move in and make an arrest. Tanner is
• 33:49
  Speaker 19: put in cuffs. A body, which would later be idd
• 33:52
  Speaker 19: as Ashley's, is discovered in the back of the truck.
• 33:57
  Speaker 19: Ashley's family and friends are crushed.
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: I could hug her one more time.
• 34:01
  Speaker 19: So, according to police documents, Flores admits the detectives to
• 34:07
  Speaker 19: shooting Ashley in the head twice because he was angry
• 34:11
  Speaker 19: with her. A tragic end to a life that had
• 34:14
  Speaker 19: so much to offer.
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: We just see her in everything we do out here.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: It's hard to look at this every day.
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: It's I know, she would have wanted us to move
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: forward and.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: To stay here.
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: This was her and she's you know, she's living in
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: everything here.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Flores is currently in jail, being held without vond He's
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: facing two counts of first degree murder in one count
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: of second degree kidnapping. Prosecutors have yet to announce if
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: you will face the death penalty. Coming up, we break
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: a shunky new headline in the John Benet Ramsey case.
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: Do you believe it's still possible to figure out whose
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: DNA that is on John Benet?
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's next book, all right now, the John Benet
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Ramsey story. You won't see anywhere else. A DNA expert
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: who's looked extensively into the Ramsey case says he believes
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: he knows how to find the killer, but no one
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: will listen. Our Ana Garcia is challenging him on his
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: shocking new claim.
• 35:21
  Speaker 10: Chris, I've come here to Denver to meet with a
• 35:23
  Speaker 10: DNA expert who says he has new explosive information that
• 35:27
  Speaker 10: could change the Ramsey case. Do you believe it's still
• 35:32
  Speaker 10: possible to figure out whose DNA that is on John Beney.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I'm absolutely certain.
• 35:42
  Speaker 10: And yet, at least for now, this is a story
• 35:45
  Speaker 10: without an end. Just hours after the frantic nine to
• 35:55
  Speaker 10: one one call, John Ramsey would find his daughter's body
• 35:59
  Speaker 10: wrapped in a blanket in the basement. Suspicion quickly turned
• 36:04
  Speaker 10: to the parents, and in nineteen ninety nine, a team
• 36:07
  Speaker 10: of prosecutors, including Mitch Morrissey, was brought in from Denver
• 36:11
  Speaker 10: to help assist with a grand jury investigation that ended
• 36:14
  Speaker 10: with a vote to indict John and Patsy for their
• 36:18
  Speaker 10: daughter's death, but Boulder DA Alex Hunter didn't think there
• 36:23
  Speaker 10: was enough evidence to go to trial. What work did
• 36:25
  Speaker 10: you do on the John bin A.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Ramsey case.
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  Speaker 20: We advised the District Attorney's office and the police about
• 36:32
  Speaker 20: touch the DNA.
• 36:33
  Speaker 10: Tell me what touch DNA is.
• 36:34
  Speaker 20: Touch DNA actually is DNA which is transferred when somebody
• 36:37
  Speaker 20: touches person.
• 36:39
  Speaker 10: The BOULDERPD has denied Eichlenbaum did any work on the case,
• 36:43
  Speaker 10: and ultimately they used another lab to do the analysis
• 36:47
  Speaker 10: that cleared the Ramseys. But Richard remains adamant he advised
• 36:51
  Speaker 10: and what's more, he says, no one listened.
• 36:54
  Speaker 20: But went wrong is that they stopped too early. They
• 36:58
  Speaker 20: were getting somewhere with the DNA inside the Penties and
• 37:01
  Speaker 20: on the Long Johns. They should have gone further with
• 37:03
  Speaker 20: dead So why.
• 37:04
  Speaker 10: Not reopen it and retest the DNA with the new technology.
• 37:09
  Speaker 20: That's my that's my idea.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: So why isn't anyone letting him?
• 37:14
  Speaker 10: Just over a week ago, a Denver judge barred Eichlenbaum
• 37:17
  Speaker 10: from testifying at a trial, calling his credentials and experience
• 37:22
  Speaker 10: into question. Then Denver's district Attorney, One Mitch Morrissey sat
• 37:27
  Speaker 10: down with our affiliate KDVR.
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  Speaker 21: This is a dangerous, dangerous thing he does and he
• 37:34
  Speaker 21: needed to be exposed.
• 37:35
  Speaker 20: That that's complete nonsense.
• 37:37
  Speaker 10: Richard says. These new claims are not only ridiculous, they're personal.
• 37:43
  Speaker 10: So why do you think it's so personal?
• 37:46
  Speaker 20: It started with John Binney Ramsey. Mister Morrissey was going
• 37:49
  Speaker 20: after the parents. The touch DNA could prove him wrong,
• 37:53
  Speaker 20: and actually his own Denver laboratory already proved him wrong.
• 37:57
  Speaker 21: Now, I know he's saying it was our fault, but
• 38:00
  Speaker 21: it was a judge that ruled this, not us.
• 38:03
  Speaker 10: Still, Richard stands by his statements, and twenty years after
• 38:07
  Speaker 10: John Bennet's tragic death, there is at least one person
• 38:11
  Speaker 10: who is convinced that justice could be just over the horizon.
• 38:15
  Speaker 10: So you believe that the information is still in that
• 38:19
  Speaker 10: DNA and we may very well be able to find
• 38:21
  Speaker 10: out who her killer was or killers.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sure of it.