Latest / Straumann® ProTalk / Clinical edition: How hydrophilic surfaces redefined Implant secondary stability with Prof. Shakeel Shahdad
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- 0:00The debate is about the interaction between the blood cells, the bone
- 0:05cells, and the implant surface.
- 0:07So you already have this bone that has been already traumatized
- 0:11by the drilling process.
- 0:12There's trauma, no question.
- 0:14There we'll need a turnover and remodeling.
- 0:16Just by that fact.
- 0:18And then you squeeze that cork in.
- 0:21Yeah, because people get hung up on insertion torque.
- 0:24I wanted 80 Ncm insertion torque.
- 0:26It's counterproductive.
- 0:28It's counterproductive.
- 0:29This year marks a very special milestone for Straumann, the
- 0:3220th anniversary of SLActive®.
- 0:35A Surface that has truly redefined the way we think about implant
- 0:38osseointegration and long-term outcome.
- 0:40I had the privilege of speaking with Professor Shakeel Shahdad, one of the
- 0:44leading experts in implant surface who shared his clinical and research journey
- 0:49and why you two should trust your patients with a SLActive® surface implants.
- 0:53Don't miss this conversation.
- 0:54I'm Dr. Christian Jarry, and this is Straumann ProTalk Clinical.
- 1:12Professor Shahdad, what an honor to have you with us.
- 1:16Christian.
- 1:16Thank you very much.
- 1:17Very flattering introduction.
- 1:19It is a absolute pleasure for me to be here with you and
- 1:23spend the morning sharing some experiences and thoughts with you.
- 1:26Oh, I can't wait to see where this conversation will go.
- 1:29Now, what's incidental is you just mentioned 20 years of SLActive®.
- 1:33Incidentally, my journey through Strauamnn and Al is also 20 years this year.
- 1:40So in a way, I feel we have grown together.
- 1:43I have grown with, matured with Al over the last 20 years, and during
- 1:48that journey have gained immense experience with, in terms of what.
- 1:54An implant surface can do for us and our patients.
- 1:58So I'll be delighted to share, share my thoughts and experiences and
- 2:03knowledge with you guys in terms of what we've done, what I've learned
- 2:06over the years, and also the experience of our recent research studies.
- 2:11And we deeply appreciate you coming.
- 2:12And by the way, happy anniversary then.
- 2:15Thank you.
- 2:15Yes, indeed.
- 2:18So we set the pace here.
- 2:20We still hear often people couldn't care less.
- 2:24They just want an implant to be placed it, but, and sometimes people take for
- 2:30granted the importance of an implant surface for all the colleagues are
- 2:35there that still take for granted?
- 2:37How do you define, let's set the basis right?
- 2:40Yeah.
- 2:40The fundamentals.
- 2:40How do you define the infant treatment process and why does it matter?
- 2:46This is it.
- 2:46This is something that I really need to.
- 2:49First things first.
- 2:50I think we need to once we appreciate that we're actually placing a
- 2:53foreign body in a patient's mouth.
- 2:55Yeah.
- 2:55Yeah.
- 2:56And the in my opinion, implant surface does matter.
- 3:00It has, we've always known in terms of if you look at casting back
- 3:04and seeing the implant surface is how they've evolved over time.
- 3:07The various alloys, it didn't work as well as, commercially pure titanium.
- 3:12And the debate doesn't necessarily need to be between the, it's not
- 3:16just about between the rough and the smooth and not between how
- 3:21is an implant surface made rough.
- 3:23The debate is much wider than that.
- 3:25The debate is about the interaction between the blood cells, the bone
- 3:30cells, and the implant surface.
- 3:33What triggers a process of osseointegration and
- 3:37whether we can modify that.
- 3:40In our favor.
- 3:41When I say our favor, I'm talking about both me as a clinician and my patient
- 3:45as a recipient of that device, shall we say, so therefore the implant surfaces
- 3:51are absolutely essential because.
- 3:54What we did with implants 20, 30 years ago is very different to what we do
- 3:58with implants today because we have, over the years gained so much confidence
- 4:04with what we can do with our implants, and then we're pushing the boundaries.
- 4:08And if we're pushing the boundaries, whether it's immediacy or whether it
- 4:13is surgical sites with significantly deficient bone, or, having to push
- 4:18those boundaries means we need the tools to be able to support that as well.
- 4:23And that goes in implant surfaces, that goes in implant designs,
- 4:27biomaterials that we choose.
- 4:29So as clinician I believe we have a huge responsibility in terms of making sure.
- 4:35That we make the right decisions for our patients because
- 4:39patients don't come asking us.
- 4:40To place a specific implant, a design, a surface length, diameter.
- 4:46They just want a tooth.
- 4:48Yeah.
- 4:48Yeah.
- 4:48We make those decisions.
- 4:50They couldn't care less about
- 4:51a beautiful suture.
- 4:52Exactly.
- 4:53Nobody, I've never had a patient come to say, Hey, I want a
- 4:56Strauamnn and electio bone level or tissue level, eight millimeters.
- 4:59No.
- 5:00I say I've got a problem.
- 5:01Please
- 5:02solve it for me.
- 5:04I like this very much, how you contextualize and how the surfaces
- 5:08play a big role because honestly, the problems won't change.
- 5:13Yeah.
- 5:14Better tools will make a difference and you have to be better equipped for this.
- 5:18Yeah.
- 5:19And speaking of, you wanna say something?
- 5:21No.
- 5:21Speaking of anniversary, why 20 years in your opinion?
- 5:25The cases you have seen, why do you think the introduction of a
- 5:29selected 20 years ago was such a turning point in Implantology?
- 5:34The, it goes back to the basic science, when you place an implant
- 5:38what, we talk a lot about primary stability and implant dentistry,
- 5:43and it's always been the, primary stability is underpinned the overall
- 5:48basics and basis of implant dentistry.
- 5:51And then that was particularly true when we were.
- 5:53Placing machined run mark implants at the time.
- 5:57And as stren has always been rough surface implants, but of course there
- 6:00are rough surfaces evolved over time.
- 6:03The the, secondary stability or the bonet implant contact is the
- 6:08most critical thing for long term.
- 6:10Now I say long term which is great, but you also have to question
- 6:15what do we want in the short term?
- 6:16I'm talking about the first few weeks after placing the implant.
- 6:20That early interaction between the host and the implant surface, and
- 6:25that early interaction is so critical because you have a, the moment you
- 6:29place an implant, there is a race.
- 6:33There's a race between bone and there's a race between fibrous encapsulation.
- 6:38In other words, there's a race between osseointegration
- 6:41and fibrous and copulation.
- 6:42One osseointegration means success.
- 6:45Fibrous and encapsulation is failure.
- 6:48So anything that we as clinicians can choose that can trigger or fast track that
- 6:55early interaction between the blood clot.
- 6:58And as a result of that, the blood cells, the early angiogenesis, early
- 7:02bone cell proliferation which can trigger that process and speed up our
- 7:07osseointegration is gonna be of course, beneficial for us because then we are
- 7:11not really relying on primary stability.
- 7:14Primary stability gives that initial confidence, but that's not enough
- 7:17because implants fail if they don't achieve secondary stability.
- 7:21In other words, if they don't, osseointegrate, okay.
- 7:23And those early few early weeks are very critical, particularly in
- 7:28cases which are aggressive, shall you say cases which include your
- 7:33extraction sockets, which include your pretty big bone defects, right?
- 7:37We have gained so much confidence over the years in terms of what we do with
- 7:41bone regeneration around implants.
- 7:43The days when every case would get a block graft and people would have to
- 7:47have their hip sacrifice for putting implants in the mouth those days have
- 7:52changed and that's only come because of the confidence that we have with
- 7:55guided bone regeneration, for example.
- 7:57And talking about guided bone regeneration, right?
- 8:01The implant surface, like an SLActive®® surface we know from
- 8:05evidence is a, what do you call, an osteo promoting implant surface.
- 8:09So it not only is helping you achieve quicker osseointegration
- 8:14with the whole bone, it's also.
- 8:17At the same time helping promote the newborn formation
- 8:21through the GBR proceed process.
- 8:22So it's an, we also know, I'm talking a lot about SLActive®® at the moment,
- 8:26but we also know that other implant surfaces, rough implant surfaces if
- 8:30you give them enough time to heal, they will reach the same level of.
- 8:34Stability and secondary stability over time.
- 8:37Over time.
- 8:37Yeah.
- 8:38It's that initial race.
- 8:39I often when in my lectures I often talk about this is like an a
- 8:43hundred meter sprinter or sand bolt versus a marathon runner mo far.
- 8:49They both will win a gold, but one is a lot quicker than the other one.
- 8:55Shaq?
- 8:55I would say I already dropped the professor.
- 8:57You're already Shaq.
- 8:58Thank you for making you know, the professor
- 9:00title makes me feel a lot older than I actually probably am.
- 9:04You just hit the nail in the head because we often talk to clinicians
- 9:09and there's a bit of a skepticism.
- 9:12They say oh yeah.
- 9:13How would a surface help many immediate solutions?
- 9:16How would that help my primary stability?
- 9:19You are right.
- 9:19You won't.
- 9:20Yeah, but you took so much care, engaging your implant in the right position,
- 9:25respecting three dimensional positioning.
- 9:28You took so much care creating that beautiful emergence profile.
- 9:33For that patient to go home and now it's not under your care.
- 9:37There's so much a patient can do when it's released back home.
- 9:41Yeah.
- 9:41Whatever that is, that the behavior or that could trigger a potential
- 9:45or could jeopardize all the precious therapy you just applied that you
- 9:50want your secondary stability to come as quickly as possible to kick in.
- 9:56And that's a turning point.
- 9:58So when I. When I reflect about the role of SLActive®, how is, how do you
- 10:04see this affecting the decision making process in such an indications that we
- 10:10were not so familiar with in the past?
- 10:12Now we are.
- 10:13And how such a tool in your toolbox changing the decision making process,
- 10:18for example, as we just said, immediate solution is one that will be compromised.
- 10:23Patients that we may touch on that one, but sometimes we don't even
- 10:26know the patient is compromised.
- 10:28Absolutely.
- 10:29How you see the surface as an added adjunct value in this therapy?
- 10:32Yeah.
- 10:33Let's
- 10:33pick up immediate.
- 10:34Yeah.
- 10:34Implants in an extraction socket, a simple, that's
- 10:37actually a wrong word to use.
- 10:38Simple.
- 10:38Let's call it a, people consider central incisor an easy, from an
- 10:42immediate point of view, feel it's easy.
- 10:44It's far from that.
- 10:45But let's pick that for as an example now.
- 10:48The reality is if you're gonna get your implant in the correct place for
- 10:52a central incisor as an immediate most of your implant on the facial aspect.
- 10:57Is not in contact with the bone, should not be in contact.
- 11:00It's naked.
- 11:01Yep.
- 11:01It's the apical few threads.
- 11:03Whatever you have, whatever space you have or height you have available
- 11:06above the apex of the implant is what gives you that primary stability.
- 11:10And often we forget that most of that implant has no contact
- 11:16with the bone is not engaging, the threads are not engaging.
- 11:19So therefore, whilst we have primary stability, that primary
- 11:22stability is provided by the few apical millimeters of that implant.
- 11:26Not the whole length of the implant.
- 11:28And we often forget that.
- 11:29What that means is if you, from a surface area point of view, if you say, okay,
- 11:34now if you look at surface area point of view a vast surface area of that
- 11:38implant is not in contact with the bone and we place some bone graft in between.
- 11:42So therefore.
- 11:45As the primary stability drops, which we know it drops over a period of first
- 11:49few weeks and the secondary stability starts to kick in, we need to shift that
- 11:53graft to the left so that the secondary stability kicks in as quickly as possible.
- 11:59Now, that is where the benefit of a. Active surface, like a
- 12:03SLActive® surface comes in because you're getting the confidence that
- 12:07your implant is say, I tell my patients, look, this is like baking.
- 12:12Yeah.
- 12:12You take, you prepare a dish, you have to put it in an oven, and then the
- 12:15question is, how long do you place it in an oven before it's cooked?
- 12:19The difference is your elect cooks much quicker because your oven is a lot more
- 12:23efficient than a non SLActive® surface where it takes longer to bake that dish
- 12:29or make 'em out undercooked, and patients understand that language easily,
- 12:34right?
- 12:34You gotta make it less scientific for patients, right?
- 12:37Or can mean by healing times why they need to wait for certain things and stuff.
- 12:41We'll try to break it into a language that a patient with easy.
- 12:44Relate.
- 12:45Oh, of course.
- 12:46Baking is not a bad thing.
- 12:47Is it?
- 12:47Not a bad thing.
- 12:47It's such a good thing.
- 12:50You just don't want anything undercooked.
- 12:52You don't want anything undercooked.
- 12:54Yes.
- 12:55Yes.
- 12:55Because it'll end up in the bin.
- 12:57Exactly.
- 12:58What a great analogy.
- 13:01Any compromise situation.
- 13:02We said primary to secondary stability.
- 13:05And added to the fact that I was just reflecting, as you were saying, the
- 13:10implant alone is partially in a bone.
- 13:12And also, especially in aesthetic zone, patients will
- 13:14like to go home smiling, huh?
- 13:17Then you place an abutment and you increase the arm force, then you increase
- 13:21a, put a prosthetic provisional crown.
- 13:23You make the arm lever longer, quiet, longer, quite discrepancy.
- 13:28I agree with you completely that we should make use of every possible resource.
- 13:33To improve the baking.
- 13:36So what has happened over the last 20 years, at least in my practice and in my
- 13:41unit, is a vast majority of patients that we treat are patients who have hypodontia
- 13:48patients who are born without teeth.
- 13:50And we know that in such cases, because there has never been that the,
- 13:55a permanent tooth hasn't developed.
- 13:56So the alveolus is completely underdeveloped.
- 14:00So we end up with patients with pretty severe bone defects.
- 14:03I'm talking about 2, 3, 4 millimeter ridges that we place in per in.
- 14:07Now, in the past, these patients needed quite a significant
- 14:12amount of reconstruction.
- 14:14We are talking about young teenagers having had no teeth, and then a
- 14:19few years of orthodontic treatment
- 14:23and.
- 14:24The last thing they want when they hit age of 18 to now put them through
- 14:30lots and lots of invasive, aggressive surgeries bone reconstruction
- 14:35for soft tissue reconstruction, and then putting implants in.
- 14:38It's a long journey.
- 14:39Yes.
- 14:40What we have over the years the confidence that we've gained with the implant surface
- 14:46that we've used is we have developed our philosophy around the motto minimizing
- 14:52morbidity without compromising outcomes.
- 14:56What do we mean by that?
- 14:57There is evidence base.
- 14:59And I like to use evidence-based as a benchmark.
- 15:02Yeah.
- 15:03And when we quote evidence to our patients it is a benchmark because
- 15:08you can't always say, because this is the evidence, we will achieve it.
- 15:11You have to, we're clinicians.
- 15:14And dentistry, implant dentistry, anything.
- 15:16A dentistry is dependent on the clinician who's delivering that treatment.
- 15:21So therefore we need to know our own success rates to be able to quote it
- 15:25to the patients and tell them in my hands in evidence is a. But in our hands
- 15:30or in my unit, this is our evidence.
- 15:32So therefore, it's important that we tell the patients what they're
- 15:35expecting from me as a clinician rather than what is written in a journal.
- 15:40But it's, it is important that we benchmark ourselves against gold standard.
- 15:43And gold standard has to be evidence-based.
- 15:46So when I say minimizing morbidity put yourself as a patient.
- 15:51Yeah.
- 15:52Let's say you need a surgery.
- 15:54Let's leave dentistry out.
- 15:55You need, let's, God forbid you need a cardiac surgery.
- 15:57What would you want?
- 15:58You want, right?
- 15:59You want the surgeon to be confident enough to give you an outcome,
- 16:03in least number of surgeries.
- 16:05Or you want the surgeon to say, oh, I need to do six surgeries for
- 16:07you before I'm gonna get you there.
- 16:09Of course everybody wants least number of surgeries.
- 16:12And it's the same thing.
- 16:13Our philosophy literally revolves around the same belief that we want
- 16:19to achieve outcomes for our patients.
- 16:21Yeah, with the least number of surgeries.
- 16:24When I say least number of surgeries, I'm talking about one surgery, and often
- 16:29our patients require replace an implant.
- 16:32There is bone missing buccally.
- 16:35There is bone missing palatally, and we do a bone graft, GBR palatally.
- 16:39We do a GBR buccally and we reconstruct site in one one visit.
- 16:44So I call it a sandwich, GBR because we are sandwiching an implant
- 16:48between the buckle and the plate.
- 16:50GBR.
- 16:52Now to be able to push the envelope of GBR to that extent where you are really
- 16:59going against all the grains here, you need the confidence of the tools that you.
- 17:04Choosing for your patients.
- 17:05And you cannot afford failures because you know it's gonna get you a bad name.
- 17:10Your unit is gonna get a bad name, you're gonna get a bad
- 17:12name amongst your colleagues.
- 17:14And as they say often, the most successful practice is one
- 17:17which moves every five years
- 17:21because you don't see your long term outcomes and
- 17:23no accountability.
- 17:24Exactly.
- 17:25So we don't want that.
- 17:26So therefore we have to, be mindful of I, I want to choose things which
- 17:32have evidence-based, but also at the same time, I want to be confident
- 17:35because I want to, in our own clinical experience, be able to demonstrate that
- 17:40we can push the boundaries here for our, for the benefit of our patients.
- 17:44Yeah.
- 17:45And if we feel.
- 17:47We'll probably come to set some point about the primary stability and its
- 17:52significance in my opinion, has always been overcooked in implant industry.
- 17:57But then to be able to place implants with compromised primary stability, I'll take
- 18:05it to an extent with no primary stability.
- 18:08Yeah.
- 18:08You need to.
- 18:10Have some belief that there is for example, SLActive®® is, if it wasn't
- 18:14for SLActive®®, I probably, we, I probably wouldn't be practicing the
- 18:17type of implant dentistry I do today.
- 18:20I will really summarize it that much.
- 18:23I see that over the last 20 years with every case that we do, the more and
- 18:27more confidence that we gain, we are, I'm truly relying on an implant surface
- 18:34to deliver results for us and in a way.
- 18:39To make me feel good, make me look good, shall we say, because we're
- 18:43doing something which is really aggressive in terms of treatment, but
- 18:47still not compromising our outcomes.
- 18:50And also to feel good.
- 18:51Come on.
- 18:52We don't choose the industry because it's just some random Oh, we choose
- 18:57because we have a passion for it.
- 18:58We like to.
- 19:00Deal with people.
- 19:01We like to do good to people and we like to know that what we are doing,
- 19:07it's an assertive decision supported by partners like industry partners.
- 19:12That is, we are so privileged.
- 19:14I would say that those words you're saying it really resonates that all
- 19:19the efforts that an immense amount of input into from Straumann into
- 19:25research into development comes to.
- 19:29A final outcome that you are feeling satisfied because you're
- 19:32providing to your patients.
- 19:34Yeah.
- 19:34Something that it makes you and them feel happy about it?
- 19:38Absolutely.
- 19:39Absolutely.
- 19:39And that you cannot, in, in dentistry and particularly implant
- 19:44dentistry, you can't, you cannot underestimate that collaboration
- 19:48between industry and clinicians.
- 19:51It is a key essential, and the industry, but the industry has to be responsive
- 19:56to the needs of the clinician and to the feedback from clinicians.
- 20:02That's important.
- 20:02It's, and they have to work in collaboration because there's only so
- 20:06much experimentation industry can do in their corporate offices and stuff.
- 20:09Yeah.
- 20:10Ultimately the feedback and what works, what doesn't work
- 20:14has to come from clinicians.
- 20:16And that's why this collaboration is so important.
- 20:18And we have moved long ways away from all the implants.
- 20:22The, so be perio as you were describing in the beginning.
- 20:25Some experimental alloys.
- 20:28Implant dentistry is very well fundamental.
- 20:30That's what I like so much about, Chuck.
- 20:33We have one session in a podcast called, it's Not What We Think, it's what we
- 20:38know, and I ask our guest to highlight one article that you think the dental
- 20:45community should know because it either opened your eyes to something new or.
- 20:51Shifted your eyes to something that you were not doing, and now you
- 20:54started doing and you nicely shared with me the paper from French Schwarz.
- 21:00That is quite the standard in research up to this day, how we promote
- 21:05research in implant dentistry.
- 21:07That is it's an article from 2008 seven
- 21:102007. Two eight was a series of articles published.
- 21:13Yeah, this one's published in 2008.
- 21:16Bone regeneration in dehiscence type defects at non-submerged and
- 21:21submerged, clinically modified surface and conventional.
- 21:26Ally titanium implants and immunohisto- an immunohistochemical study.
- 21:33Such a tongue twisting, it's a tongue twister, right?
- 21:36My god.
- 21:37Yeah.
- 21:38It feels like those German words, they attach to everything together
- 21:42and immunohistochemical study talk.
- 21:46Shak, why is this so meaningful to you that you thought you should
- 21:49share with the dental community?
- 21:52This study.
- 21:54Really was a big game changer for me in terms of thinking about how an implant
- 22:02surface on its own can be osteo promoting.
- 22:05It was the first time, when you say not, it's about this is where the evidence
- 22:09base really plays a big important role in our, this clinical decision making.
- 22:14This was a study where.
- 22:16The the SLA and SSL active implants were placed in dogs with big
- 22:20four by three millimeter days since defects that Frank created
- 22:25and didn't put any bone graft in, didn't put a membrane in.
- 22:28We just closed the plant.
- 22:30Just defect.
- 22:30Yeah.
- 22:30Some of them were submerged, some of them were not submerged.
- 22:33And you compare the hydrophobic to a hydrophilic implant surface.
- 22:36Remember at that time there was only one hydrophilic implant surface and that
- 22:40was the new cell active implant surface.
- 22:42This concept didn't exist at that time.
- 22:44And what was remarkable was the absolute stark difference between.
- 22:51The spontaneous, we're talking about spontaneous bone
- 22:54regeneration in an SLActive® defect compared to an SLA defect.
- 22:59And in Sal, after eight weeks, nearly 80% of that defect had filled with new bone.
- 23:06Yeah.
- 23:08Now what does that tell us?
- 23:09That tells us that the that, that tells us how powerful the human biology.
- 23:16In conjunction with a a, an attractive surface to cell attachment to clot
- 23:24attachment can be at two weeks.
- 23:26There was a significant difference between and Sal Act two and eight weeks.
- 23:30There was, you, when you first see those slides, the histo histology slides,
- 23:35you can't believe your eyes that you can see so much bone fill in a defect.
- 23:40Yeah, there we go.
- 23:41Yeah you look at that.
- 23:43It's a lot.
- 23:44It's significant and it's hard to believe.
- 23:48And when you compare to the SLA, and that is exactly what you would
- 23:51expect, no bone felt because you haven't put a graft in or forget the
- 23:54graft, you haven't put a barrier in.
- 23:56You needed the barrier.
- 23:57More importantly, you need a barrier membrane for as scaffold
- 24:00as allow the clot to stabilize.
- 24:03So what that showed, and then he went on to show in the series of articles as
- 24:07well in terms of the how the blood clot stabilizes around the sim implant surface.
- 24:13Which allows for the absorption of the proteins, allows the absorption
- 24:16of the cell attachment, the bone cell attachment, happening within the
- 24:20first few days of implant placement.
- 24:24And that's takes me back to my sain bolt and mo farra analogy and stuff.
- 24:28But here, mo Farra couldn't because here the hydrophobic implant surface didn't
- 24:32regenerate any bone after eight weeks.
- 24:34Because the, by the time the cells would've needed to
- 24:37attach the implant surface.
- 24:39The soft tissue had already attached, taken over.
- 24:42That race was won by the soft tissue.
- 24:43Yeah.
- 24:44Much faster.
- 24:45So that really changed my thought process in thinking, whoa, there's something
- 24:51truly here because up to that point.
- 24:54As I said, I started placing SLActive® when I started
- 24:57placing STR implants in 2005.
- 25:00I immediately started with SLActive® because just SLActive®
- 25:03was on a limited market release.
- 25:05And interestingly or should we say subjectively I had noticed.
- 25:10That the healing around those tissue level implants was a lot nicer than I
- 25:15would've seen after one vehicle placement.
- 25:17But that was a very subjective shall we say, observation.
- 25:20Until these sort of studies started to come out and started saying,
- 25:23okay, this starts to make some sense.
- 25:25Yeah, to connect the dots.
- 25:27But you still skeptical.
- 25:28As a clinician, you think okay, this isn't dogs.
- 25:31Maybe dogs behave very differently.
- 25:32And they do to some extent.
- 25:34We know they do behave differently, and to translate that into humans
- 25:39is sometimes quite difficult.
- 25:41And you ask questions, will this really happen in humans as well?
- 25:44But in other words, what I do, same what Frank did in dogs, in humans, and
- 25:50no, I would not just leave an exposed implant surface and not place a graft.
- 25:56But at least what this study gave me at that time was a confidence to
- 25:59say, okay, if this can happen without a graft, that means that if I place
- 26:03a graft and place a good bone graft material in the membrane I can speed
- 26:07up the process of bone regeneration.
- 26:10I'm giving my implant and my bone graft the best chance to have a good outcome.
- 26:16And that paper really then literally changed the direction of travel for me.
- 26:22And then subsequently my colleagues who worked with me as you say, you
- 26:26sometimes, you have to demonstrate success for others to believe in you.
- 26:30And to believe in what you do.
- 26:32And that takes time.
- 26:34And you have to, lead with example, as I say.
- 26:37So in my unit today we have no hesitation in placing implants
- 26:42without primary stability.
- 26:44We have no hesitation in placing implants, which need very aggressive bone graft.
- 26:48Because over the last 20 years me and my colleagues have realized
- 26:52that we can push the boundaries.
- 26:54That paper, I think I would say has been one which has really been
- 26:58always at the forefront of my mind.
- 27:01And interestingly because in the last four or five years we've done more
- 27:05recent work, because if it was, there wasn't much in the hydrophilic implant
- 27:09surface right then you wouldn't see what we are seeing today in the market.
- 27:16Yeah, we're seeing a lot of other implant surfaces being marketed,
- 27:21which are hydrophilic as well.
- 27:24And I was, it's the, because of the curiosity from this and over the time
- 27:30I was the sort of cases we've been doing, I was quite curious to say okay.
- 27:36Are all hydrophilic surfaces the same then?
- 27:38Yeah.
- 27:38Yeah.
- 27:40That's a million dollar question, right?
- 27:41A million question.
- 27:41See?
- 27:43Must be, because if you're hydrophilic, and hydrophilic by definition is only
- 27:49you, zero degree contact angle, when you dip it in liquid of fluid, no tension.
- 27:55Yeah.
- 27:55No surface.
- 27:55Yeah.
- 27:56High surface energy, no tension.
- 27:58Is that it is that just the hydrophilicity zero degree you
- 28:02prove with zero degrees, that is it.
- 28:04And the series of studies that we have conducted and published in the recent
- 28:08years actually demonstrate otherwise.
- 28:12So it isn't just that surface energy, which seems to be
- 28:17the be all and end all of it.
- 28:21Which is interesting because if you also see the amount of research that
- 28:25has been done on SLActive® in the last 20 years, we have more than 300 odd
- 28:29articles published, research papers published on it has also demonstrated
- 28:34over multiple in vitro studies, clinical studies, and animal studies, particularly
- 28:40in vitro studies, have shed a bit more light on the implant surface.
- 28:46That it isn't just, it is hydrophilic.
- 28:48Even if you compare the s Strauamnn as Roxolid solid, shall we
- 28:51say, if you compare the Roxolid solid SLA to Sal two, right?
- 28:55We now know there is a bit of nano topography on Sal.
- 29:00So there is a lot of other things happening in this SLActive® surface,
- 29:04which isn't just about hydrophilicity, which isn't just about dip it in the
- 29:09blood and it seeps up the surface.
- 29:12There is nano topography, which is allowing a very different kind of an
- 29:17interaction between the protein cells and the blood clot at the very early stages.
- 29:22We know that the, the SLActive® implant surface is, has got anti-inflammatory
- 29:28properties or we at the moment conducting some in vitro studies comparing some
- 29:35of the hydrophilic implant surfaces.
- 29:37And surprisingly.
- 29:40We can see a cascade of anti-inflammatory cytokines in a active surface, whereas
- 29:46we see a cascade of pro-inflammatory cells attaching to the other
- 29:51hydrophilic implant surfaces.
- 29:54So ain't just the zero degree contact angle.
- 29:57So there's more to it.
- 29:58And it's fascinating because the animal studies that we did, and interestingly
- 30:02Frank's study is on the dogs.
- 30:04Yeah.
- 30:05And the study that we did, it was on mini pigs.
- 30:08And if I show you the histological specimens of our electio surface,
- 30:14you would think I have copied and pasted them from Frank's study.
- 30:17I was, honestly, I was, it was such a when you're doing research thinking.
- 30:21I wonder what theological specimen I'm going to get because, he
- 30:25is published 20 years ago.
- 30:27And honestly, it looks like copy and paste,
- 30:29copy paste
- 30:30exactly the same behavior where we left dehiscence defects of hydrophilic,
- 30:35hydrophobic, and a one of the other competitor implant surface.
- 30:40And the SLActive® surface had the same behavior.
- 30:45Then we repeated the study with bone graft particulate bone
- 30:49graft and a membrane on top.
- 30:50And the successful bone regeneration was fascinating.
- 30:55Bone implant contact in eight weeks in a mini pig fascinating.
- 30:59Whereas the one of the other implant surfaces we were testing, which was, which
- 31:03is supposed to be hydrophilic, beautiful bone regeneration for the GBR, but no
- 31:09bone implant contact with the surface.
- 31:12So what happened as a result?
- 31:15Of those studies, it raised more questions than the answers we had.
- 31:20'cause now we're getting confused thinking what is going on here?
- 31:23Because, so we've gone back to doing some in vitro tests.
- 31:28Yeah.
- 31:29To look at cytokines to look at how immune, what sort of immune response
- 31:33you're getting around those surfaces.
- 31:35And there's some work done by Rene in university of British Columbia.
- 31:41And we have gone back to more or less recycle what he's done, where he had shown
- 31:48the behavior of the anti-inflammatory behavior of SLActive® computer sla.
- 31:54So we're now comparing different implant surfaces, right?
- 31:56And that's where we noticing that there is the SLActive® surface
- 32:00is very anti-inflammatory.
- 32:02Which is what you need.
- 32:04Whereas the other implant surface phases including the SLA from Strauamnn has got
- 32:09a bit more of pro-inflammatory response.
- 32:11Correct.
- 32:12And I think that's where.
- 32:13Probably the difference lies not probably, I'm getting more and
- 32:17more convinced now that we got those basic science experiments,
- 32:20that is where the difference is.
- 32:23It's not just hydro Felicity, it is not just roughness.
- 32:27There is a surface.
- 32:28Chemistry is such that you are getting a an anti-inflammatory response early
- 32:34on within the first few days and that.
- 32:38Is gonna be the trigger for that fast track osseointegration.
- 32:45We're extending that.
- 32:47Am I talking too much?
- 32:48No.
- 32:50Interestingly, what we're doing at the moment, we have a clinical trial running
- 32:54and we're extending that experimentation to not doing those in vitro tests.
- 33:00Just on the, the plasma and stuff that you can buy in the market.
- 33:05We're using the blood and plasma from each individual patient
- 33:09who's having that implant.
- 33:10So patient specific immune testing.
- 33:14Yeah,
- 33:15and we don't have the results yet.
- 33:17But I'm really curious to see whether individual patients
- 33:21will respond differently to individual implant services.
- 33:24Wow.
- 33:26That would be great.
- 33:26That would be great.
- 33:27Yeah.
- 33:27I think that will also set the stage for when we look what's next.
- 33:33Exactly.
- 33:35Exactly.
- 33:36Because the tissue engineering science is getting more and
- 33:40more advanced if host factor
- 33:43is a factor.
- 33:44How about we tackle that one too?
- 33:45Mission specific.
- 33:46I love it.
- 33:47Yes.
- 33:48That's, I love the angle you brought to this because I asked you what
- 33:51an article that was meaningful.
- 33:53Either open your eyes to something or made you change the
- 33:56way you'd see or do something.
- 33:59And I like how you spend it this in a way that it was, it
- 34:03started with a observational.
- 34:07Elements that we all have in the office, something that we can just not explain.
- 34:11Something that we say but I cannot just tell people it works in my
- 34:15hands because that's not, yeah.
- 34:18They will say, oh yeah, tell me something else.
- 34:20Yeah.
- 34:20Whatever.
- 34:20But how you brought this how the evidence.
- 34:24Helped you reassure that what you were seeing, you were not alone?
- 34:30No.
- 34:30Yeah.
- 34:31It started to make sense why I'm observing what I'm observing.
- 34:34Excellent.
- 34:35I'll give you another example.
- 34:36Yeah.
- 34:37This is 2009.
- 34:39I had a patient flying for treatment for from Nigeria, and I
- 34:45was extracting an upper canine and placing an implant in the same visits.
- 34:53I extracted the canine.
- 34:55The length of the root of that canine was longer and bigger than
- 34:59the longest implant that I had.
- 35:03Yeah.
- 35:04So to extracted the tooth and I take this implant and it is,
- 35:08it's really just dangling in that extraction socket, and I'm left with.
- 35:17Three choices essentially.
- 35:19One is just abort and do nothing.
- 35:22Two is don't place the implant, but place a graft in the socket, do the
- 35:26outreach, preservation and come back.
- 35:29And three is place the implant and take a punt int Yeah.
- 35:36But a calculated punt based on what I have noticed with SLActive®.
- 35:40So I in conversation with the patient, I said, Hey, listen,
- 35:43this is the problem we have.
- 35:45Now I said, I've already opened my implant.
- 35:47It's gonna be a waste.
- 35:49I'm gonna put in a bin.
- 35:49Anyway, these are our options.
- 35:54What do you think, because you've got involved patients in
- 35:57decision making sometimes, right?
- 35:58Yeah.
- 35:59It's a teamwork.
- 35:59And she goes what do you think you got involved with the doctor back?
- 36:04I said, I would personally say, we place it.
- 36:09And I'm going to, I'm a, I, for me for our unit, for me, the prosthetically
- 36:14driven implant placement is a sacrosanct.
- 36:17It's about anything in implant dentistry will never compromise the position
- 36:21of the implant for the sake of where the bone is or where the bone is in
- 36:24the, where the implant needs to go.
- 36:25Prosthetically driven placement is absolute must for us because
- 36:28there's one problem you cannot fix.
- 36:30Is when you get an implanter is mild positioned.
- 36:33So I am now left with the this problem of this big socket.
- 36:39And having to place an implant in prosthetically driven position,
- 36:42which can be anything I said.
- 36:44I'm going scraped a lot of bone using professor Buser's technique.
- 36:47That's what I use for my GBR and have used it for more than two decades as taking
- 36:52the bone, a lot of bone scraping, and I used the bone to position my implant
- 36:56in that socket in the ideal position.
- 36:59Yeah, but it's literally dangling.
- 37:01Yeah.
- 37:02And then there was a bone defect on the buckle wall as well, which
- 37:05we regenerated like we normally do.
- 37:07And I subed it and the patient went back to Nigeria and she came back after three
- 37:12months for the second stage surgery and.
- 37:18I was pretty convinced this implant has to come out.
- 37:21You were ready to take out.
- 37:23I was ready to take it out.
- 37:24I took a radiograph before she, when she came and I radiograph looked good.
- 37:28But you can't judge osseointegration truly on a radiograph.
- 37:31And I, it probably was the only time when I was nervous doing a
- 37:36second stage surgery knowing that I'm gonna pick this implant out.
- 37:40Yeah, and then I had to create up the clean the mess that I've created
- 37:43in there, and I go in there and start all over and start all over.
- 37:48And I open the flap and tap.
- 37:50Tap.
- 37:51Absolutely brilliant.
- 37:52And that for me was another watershed moment in terms of questioning
- 37:58how important is primary stability in cases where we can protect
- 38:04the implant from macro motion.
- 38:06Yeah, that's important.
- 38:07Of course, immediacy, you need.
- 38:09You need good primary stability, you submerged it.
- 38:12It was completely submerged.
- 38:13Yeah.
- 38:13Yeah.
- 38:14So as long as you with a implant surface like Asel Act two I know I'm all I need is
- 38:20about, two weeks to start to get the bone to stick created the secondary stability.
- 38:25Yeah.
- 38:26So because the process is much quicker, I'm giving the best
- 38:30chance for this implant to integrate and that since that day.
- 38:35We, primary stability has never been a stopper for us for not placing implants.
- 38:42But what has happened now with the, of course, it was always more difficult
- 38:46to achieve primary stability with with tissue level implants because
- 38:50they're passive design implants.
- 38:52And you probably, quite well that I am a big tissue level user.
- 38:57Bone level is very rarely comes into our clinical indication.
- 39:01With the new generation four.
- 39:05Tissue level designs of TLC and TLX the big issue about, we can now, I can
- 39:14achieve now enough primary stability with a millimeter of engagement of
- 39:18the apical part of the implants.
- 39:20So you can get the best of both words.
- 39:22I am a happy man.
- 39:24The TLC design that, the tissue level taper design.
- 39:28Yeah, it is.
- 39:29I personally, I feel it's been a big change for us because now with very little
- 39:35couple of millimeters of engagement, one millimeter of engagement of the
- 39:38apex, we've got enough stability con.
- 39:41Nobody wants to place implants without primary stability.
- 39:44No, you don't choose to place implants without primary.
- 39:47That's not an option.
- 39:47Yeah.
- 39:48It's the, it's circumstantial as they say.
- 39:51Yeah.
- 39:51The only choice is either you are bought and don't do it, or you have
- 39:54the confidence of the tools, you have the implants, you have the
- 39:58surfaces you have, and you do that.
- 40:01So it's a big kind of leap of faith, shall we say, to, when we talk about,
- 40:08because the first, first when somebody goes to study implant dentistry.
- 40:14The first topic they teach you is primary stability.
- 40:16Yeah.
- 40:17Yeah.
- 40:17After they do the surface and the history and stuff, the first thing
- 40:20they teach you is primary stability.
- 40:21And it is such a big, underpins everything.
- 40:25And then when we demonstrate cases and stuff that we have done.
- 40:29Successfully without primary stability.
- 40:31Yeah.
- 40:31It takes a leap of faith.
- 40:33It does.
- 40:33Now, I really, honestly, Christian, I couldn't tell you I couldn't answer one.
- 40:37If you asked me a question, what would you expect?
- 40:39The same results from other implant surfaces?
- 40:42I can't answer that question.
- 40:43Yeah.
- 40:44'cause I've never tested it.
- 40:47So I really like this example you cited because the literature is quite fast.
- 40:52Correlating also lower primary stability with implant failures.
- 40:57But it's not quite.
- 40:59There's not quite a consensus whether higher torque values will
- 41:03have an impact on failures as well.
- 41:06We have common sense.
- 41:07There will be less vascularization and initial period depending on the region.
- 41:12Less less vascularization for example, in the lower anterior zone.
- 41:16Harder bone, higher turnover.
- 41:18You don't wanna compromise the limited vascularization you already have.
- 41:21So you have to be more cautious.
- 41:23Common sense should be predominant, however,
- 41:27right?
- 41:27So we published a systematic review last year on the same
- 41:31subject of primary stability.
- 41:33Now what is interesting to note is we looked at two things.
- 41:38We looked at insertion, torque of about 35, and we look at
- 41:42the IQ value of about 50.
- 41:45There is no correlation.
- 41:47Between the higher the insertion torque, the more successful the implant.
- 41:51On the contrary, like exactly what you said, the more, the higher the torque
- 41:55value in an avascular bone, the more those implants fail because of the, you get
- 42:02the pressure necrosis and stuff, right?
- 42:03That is.
- 42:04Absolutely certain.
- 42:05Yeah.
- 42:06So therefore all of those studies that you look at from the implant outcomes
- 42:10and the studies that have supported their data with insertion, torque, or I sq
- 42:15values, there is absolutely no correlation between the lower values of insertion,
- 42:22torque or ISQ to higher failure.
- 42:25So I asked the question, where is all this?
- 42:29Where is all we talk about evidence base?
- 42:31Yeah.
- 42:31There is no evidence to say if you have low primary stability,
- 42:34your implant will fail.
- 42:36I, again, repeat myself.
- 42:38It's very important that those implants will lower primary stability
- 42:41are protected from macro motion.
- 42:44That's the critical thing.
- 42:45Yeah.
- 42:47We published recently an animal study.
- 42:49Yeah.
- 42:50We did a mini pig study comparing SLActive® and SA.
- 42:55Implants were placed with normal preparation of osteotomy.
- 42:58So you get normal preparation, good primary stability, high
- 43:02insertion, torque implants.
- 43:04Sites were over prepared and the implant was breast fit.
- 43:08They were literally dangling in the osteotomy site.
- 43:11So we have normal preparation and over preparation, SLActive® and SLA
- 43:17results were fascinating.
- 43:19We, when we look at the slac, so none of the over preparation.
- 43:24Implants failed.
- 43:25So everything integrated.
- 43:27This is in a mini paper where you can't control, you can't tell
- 43:30them, Hey, don't show on that side.
- 43:31Yeah, soft diet, you can't control that.
- 43:35But what was really interesting is, I would urge people to look at that paper
- 43:39and see, because it will help it'll help them rethink their osteotomy preparation.
- 43:46For the benefit of the patients between SLActive® and SLA, if you look
- 43:50at two weeks, you'll see a lot more cellular activity in elect between
- 43:55the implant and the the clot and the bone surface compared to SLA.
- 44:00Number one, so that com, that confirms everything we know about
- 44:04SLActive® in terms of the speed of early engagement between the host
- 44:09and the implant surface, number one.
- 44:11Number two is the top two millimeters of the implant, the coronal part of
- 44:15the implant, which I would consider the most critical part of the influence.
- 44:21Yeah.
- 44:21In terms of aesthetics, in terms of long-term stability, in terms of where
- 44:26all the evil stuff around the implant starts is the implant abutment junction,
- 44:30all the ones that were normal preparation implants had coronal buckle bone loss.
- 44:39Yeah.
- 44:41And in over preparation sites, there was a thick buckle plate in those implants.
- 44:48Now, what does that tell us?
- 44:49At the coronal?
- 44:50At the coronal two mil, top two millimeters, the implant.
- 44:53That tells us that compressing an implant in particularly in the
- 44:58coronal two millimeters, because the buckle bone is usually thin.
- 45:02Yeah.
- 45:02It's cortical that, squeezing that implant into our osteotomy site at the
- 45:07top, which compresses the cortical plate.
- 45:10Leads to bone loss.
- 45:11Yeah.
- 45:12And therefore the, when there is no compression on the bone.
- 45:17They really respond.
- 45:19They breathe a lot more favorably.
- 45:21Yes.
- 45:22They go.
- 45:23Whereas if you crush someone Yeah.
- 45:25Something they don't behave normally.
- 45:29Yeah.
- 45:30So what that, what does that mean?
- 45:32In clinical translation, it means you aim to achieve your high primary stability
- 45:37from the apical part of the implant and the middle part of the implant.
- 45:40But please slightly flare your coronal preparation.
- 45:45Even if your implant is not in full contact with the bone, it's
- 45:49better than crushing the implant in,
- 45:52I love this.
- 45:53You hit the nail in the head because if you look at all the sites, not immediate
- 45:56of course, but take a tooth out.
- 45:59The start soft tissue starts to protect, and then over time,
- 46:04that site is not painful anymore.
- 46:06Patient starts chewing on it.
- 46:07You have the buccal bone poorly, vascularized starts collapsing,
- 46:11or, and you have normally this teardrop healing pattern.
- 46:15I honestly could never understand.
- 46:19Implant designs, they start in such a way and they -. Flare, flare up.
- 46:23Yeah.
- 46:23But from the middle of the implant where the most critical converging
- 46:27area of the bone is coming together and the implant is pushing, so you already
- 46:32have this bone that has been already traumatized by the drilling process.
- 46:36That's trauma.
- 46:37No question.
- 46:38They will need a turnover in remodeling just by that fact.
- 46:42And then you squeeze that cork in.
- 46:45Yeah, because people get hung up on insertion torque.
- 46:48I want an 80 Ncm insertion torque.
- 46:50It's counterproductive.
- 46:52It's counterproductive.
- 46:53It's counterproductive because you are getting a lot more osteoclastic
- 46:56activity because you're crushing the hell out of those bone cells.
- 47:00You need to be gentle.
- 47:01So in the mandible for my standard parallel implants, I would
- 47:05always tap the implant side.
- 47:07I want my implant to go in easy rather than really having
- 47:10to crush it and force it.
- 47:12I see.
- 47:12Now, if you look at some of the implant designs, I'm not a big bone level user.
- 47:16I very rarely use a bone level implant, but the BLX implant, and I think
- 47:20there are some of the other implant systems that taper at the top, which
- 47:24is actually probably one of the best implant designs you can have at the top
- 47:27one millimeter, they become narrower.
- 47:29So there's no pressure on that buckle plate.
- 47:31And I would certainly say you may not have every design like that, but
- 47:35you can modify your osteotomy, right?
- 47:37To just flare the Corona one millimeter, two millimeters, so
- 47:41you're not crushing that bone.
- 47:43And again, at the last ITI conference the there was the, one of the systematic
- 47:49reviews and the consensus statements, I was part of that group as well in
- 47:53the consensus statement where the need.
- 47:56To increase the thickness, what was expected until that point was we need
- 48:01one millimeter of bone on an implant, and on that consensus conference it was
- 48:05in increased to 1.5, 1.8 millimeters.
- 48:08I see.
- 48:09Because we need that thickness of bone.
- 48:12More cortical.
- 48:12The bone, it's hard.
- 48:15Wood
- 48:15doesn't respond as well.
- 48:18Chuck.
- 48:20I regret to inform, but our time is up.
- 48:22I could spend all day here discussing with you.
- 48:25It's a delightful conversation because it's not only about the surface,
- 48:28it's everything that en enables.
- 48:31For us, peace of mind workflow, and also as an end result to patients.
- 48:37You brought to the table, the evidence, your personal choices, how this has
- 48:42impacted in certain ways, even in challenging situations where you have
- 48:45a floater there you're a zero torque.
- 48:48According to, you're a zero Tor implant.
- 48:51You're a canine floater.
- 48:52Yeah.
- 48:53I love this very much.
- 48:54Thank you for participating in Straumann Pro Talk Clinical.
- 48:58It was a delightful conversation.
- 49:00Thank you very much, Christian.
- 49:02Thank you for the time.
- 49:03Really enjoyed it.
- 49:04Thank you and to all of you interested to learn more about a SLActive® surface.
- 49:11Stay tuned for Professor Shaky Shahdad Lectures, publications.
- 49:16It's worth your time.
- 49:17Of course, all the articles we mentioned here, we'll leave it
- 49:20in the description below in this video, the first one we asked and
- 49:23the other ones that we highlighted.
- 49:25We'll leave it all ready for you to just have a delightful reading.
- 49:30We thank you very much.
- 49:32Celebrate with us the 20th anniversary of a SLActive® surface, a surface that has
- 49:37redefined the way we do implantology and think how osseointegration should move.
- 49:42Until the next episode.
- 49:44See you then.