Latest / For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast / #37 - For Azeroth! "Automate Your Auction House"
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- 0:14Hello everyone, and welcome to for Azeroth the podcast, all
- 0:17about World of Warcraft. I'm your host, Jocelyn joining
- 0:19me. As always is my co-host Manny.
- 0:21Manny? How's it going doing really
- 0:24well, this week? So much to go through.
- 0:26I just want to get into it. I know we have a huge show for
- 0:30you. This week we have so much news
- 0:32to cover paczkis just happened. So we got a lot of news there.
- 0:35We also got a BlizzCon announcement and we've got Alpha
- 0:38news, we got tons of stuff there.
- 0:40The Lord we're doing this week is going to be the zandalari
- 0:42trolls. So, we've got some really cool
- 0:44storytelling that's going to lead into the Allied races
- 0:47coming with battle for Azeroth. Then we're going to talk to you
- 0:50guys about tradeskillmaster. So we have a jam-packed show
- 0:55this week. I'm really excited about it.
- 0:56Let's Jump Right In BlizzCon. We have dates.
- 1:00A lot of people were really really worried because we hadn't
- 1:03gotten dates for BlizzCon yet and it's like you know, a third
- 1:06of the way through April and people like normally, we know
- 1:09like a month ago, what's going on?
- 1:11Is there even a BlizzCon this year?
- 1:13So, we did get dates announced is going to be November 2nd and
- 1:153rd, which is kind of the weekend.
- 1:18Everyone assumed it was going to be, so I don't really know why
- 1:21it took them. So long to actually come out and
- 1:23announce the dates this time. I guess they had the nail, some
- 1:27things down, I guess. So I wonder if maybe there was
- 1:31like a conflict with the convention center or something,
- 1:34I don't know. But, November 2nd and 3rd has
- 1:38now been confirmed tickets. Go on sale, May 9th and May
- 1:4112th. So May 9th in the evening at 7
- 1:44p.m. Pacific and May 12th in the
- 1:46morning at 10 a.m. Pacific.
- 1:48So I get these are going to be super hard to get.
- 1:51I'm sure as they always are. There's a limit of four per
- 1:55person, any time I've ever been able to successfully, buy a
- 1:59ticket. It's been buying one ticket at a
- 2:01time, so, I think that it's better to get like a whole bunch
- 2:05of friends who don't necessarily want to go trying to buy one
- 2:08ticket and then you pay all of them then trying to get a chunk
- 2:11of four tickets. I fight.
- 2:12I don't think I've ever had like a the full limit of for work for
- 2:17me ever. I have had two tickets go at the
- 2:22same time, but I have never had it as a larger group.
- 2:26And I like you said, I've had a network of friends that have
- 2:29just been like, do this for me, you know, I'll this will work.
- 2:32Yeah, I'm good for it. I promise, just, I need you to
- 2:34click refresh. So, tickets are going to be two
- 2:38hundred dollars American plus taxes and fees.
- 2:40So, definitely not cheap, but I've always felt it was worth
- 2:45it. I love going to BlizzCon.
- 2:47Manny are you going to be attending BlizzCon this year?
- 2:50I don't think it's in the cards this year but if I don't go I
- 2:54always use the virtual ticket. It's not available yet but you
- 2:57get so much access and honesty from what people have said like
- 3:01it's not the same experience but you get more information looking
- 3:04through the virtual ticket than when you're on the show floor.
- 3:06Oh 100%. I feel like I missed out on so
- 3:10many things when I'm actually at BlizzCon because it always seems
- 3:12like you're attending one thing and then there are 50 other
- 3:17things going on at the same time and even if you're attending one
- 3:20thing and it, And trying to like keep up with like a live blog of
- 3:22something else. Like it just there's just it's
- 3:25information overload at least like with the virtual ticket you
- 3:28can kind of like leave and come back and you know like balance a
- 3:31whole bunch of different things. Yeah.
- 3:32It's virtual ticket is the way to go if you want actual like,
- 3:37information out of BlizzCon but when it comes to like atmosphere
- 3:42and Esports and all that kind of stuff, it's definitely worth the
- 3:46price of admission. I think also the BlizzCon
- 3:48benefit dinner, ticket sales Happening as well.
- 3:51That's going to be on, May 16th at 7 p.m.
- 3:53Pacific. This is something I never do
- 3:55because I would love to do a charity dinner thing, but I feel
- 3:59like the BlizzCon benefit dinner is one of those like bucket list
- 4:04kind of things that like, maybe one day I'll be able to go and
- 4:08get all dressed up fancy and like something like do that
- 4:12whole benefit dinner thing. But that is definitely not in
- 4:15the cards for me right now but it is a great cause.
- 4:19So if you do have the The means and you will be able as Khan and
- 4:22you would like to attend the benefit dinner.
- 4:24Then those tickets go on sale on May 16th.
- 4:27We also got a whole lot of news coming out of PAX East as well
- 4:31armed. I guess, like number one, piece
- 4:33of news that came out of PAX East, was that we finally got an
- 4:36official launch date for battle for Azeroth August 14th, which
- 4:40is awesome. It's like five weeks ahead of
- 4:43their furthest potential date still a little bit later than I
- 4:48was expecting. I was kind of hoping For like a
- 4:51June. Although I do realize we are now
- 4:53part way through April, but I'm talking like, back in like
- 4:56November December, I was thinking that maybe we might get
- 4:58it as it really as early as June.
- 5:00So August 14th, still not bad. Feels like a real good pace for
- 5:04Content. How do you feel about the pacing
- 5:06of the content throughout Legion?
- 5:09Well, you're looking at Legion and it's a longer expansion than
- 5:13Warlords, but there was just so much more in there.
- 5:16It was just a Content Rich expansion.
- 5:19I really loved it. I haven't done anything Legion
- 5:23was longer than Warlords. Legion will be out longer than
- 5:28Warlords. When all is said and done, it
- 5:29actually lasted long, it did not feel like the warlord's to me,
- 5:33looking back. Feels like that was like five
- 5:35years of my life, because it was only two major 10th, the initial
- 5:40one, right? And then like a .5 launch, where
- 5:44we got BlackRock Foundry, and then 10 and jungle and seven.
- 5:47Rather six plus six point two. They ruined the game for me
- 5:51because that's when they broke PVP.
- 5:52That's like the only thing I remember from that, expansion is
- 5:56how terrible 6.2 was and just the huge content drought going
- 6:03through that. But you're looking now, we're
- 6:05heading to August 14th, which is actually a very Very strange
- 6:09date to me. But even then, August, 14th
- 6:13means that yeah, Legions being out will be out longer than
- 6:17Warlords. Put the August 14th is just so
- 6:20strange to me because it's in the middle of summer and I
- 6:24figured if it wasn't going to get out in like met that they
- 6:29would push it till like the end of August much like Legion where
- 6:32it came out like the last week of August Yeah, I'm just I'm
- 6:36really quickly Googling all the expansion.
- 6:39Try to find the expansion release dates.
- 6:41But I feel like normally they're kind of like early kind of fall.
- 6:45Oh, I guess Legion. Yeah, it was in August but then
- 6:48they've been November September to November December like kind
- 6:52of fall releases or most of the other ones.
- 6:54So that it's interesting that they're moving into the whole
- 6:58summer release kind of window, which is good because I find
- 7:01like my biggest content drought in terms of like games to play
- 7:07and games to cover. Usually happens in August and
- 7:11even into September. And then you've kind of got the
- 7:14bigger AAA title. Releases that come in October
- 7:17and November because you're kind of leading up into Christmas and
- 7:20Black Friday and all that kind of stuff.
- 7:22So october-november, he's usually really heavy for game
- 7:25releases and there's a bit of a drought through the summer.
- 7:28So I love that. We're getting this in August.
- 7:31I feel like I'm going to have nothing else to play and then so
- 7:33a lot of time, I'll be able to Just dedicate to battle for
- 7:37Azeroth. So I'm really, really excited
- 7:39about that. And they said as well that the
- 7:43kind of content release schedule is going to be about the same as
- 7:48it was for Legion. So again, that really kind of
- 7:52Faster. Paced constant updates all that
- 7:55kind of stuff that we got in Legion.
- 7:57They're going to continue that going forward, which is amazing.
- 8:01But there is one major exception to that.
- 8:03They felt that the 7.1 release was too quick.
- 8:08That was the release that had care.
- 8:11Has an in it. They felt that that came to
- 8:13quickly afterwards, so they want to give more time.
- 8:16And I think that's part of the reason that they're actually
- 8:19releasing it earlier because they still want that content to
- 8:22I'm out at a good Pace, right? But they don't want to have that
- 8:27release. Somewhere in Christmas will get
- 8:29lost over two over, the Christmas rush.
- 8:31So, I think that instead of releasing that content later in
- 8:36the calendar year, they're actually releasing the game
- 8:38earlier, right? So we're going to get the game
- 8:41in August and then so you think seven point one might then come
- 8:45in like November or past Christmas.
- 8:47And be like January. Oh no, I think it did the 8.1 as
- 8:52it. Were royalty before the end of
- 8:53the year. Okay, cool.
- 8:56That's very exciting because I know like 7.1, I think did get a
- 9:01little bit lost for me because I think we did run care has an a
- 9:06few times when it first came out and it was really interesting
- 9:10because it was really challenging and I did feel like
- 9:13a raid for five players. So it was a really enjoyable
- 9:18chunk of content but I can't even tell you other than Kara's.
- 9:22What came out in 7.1 I guess was 7.1 Insurrection.
- 9:27Was that the serum? Our storyline as well.
- 9:30Yep, that's started. Pushing the Stormare storyline.
- 9:33I remember this because I remember watching a move doing
- 9:37Dungeons and Kyle doing the healing on the priests and all
- 9:41of that and really enjoying watching you guys.
- 9:44Do that content and going through it myself.
- 9:48Yeah. So that was that was the Sir
- 9:49Mark campaign and I that I don't know.
- 9:53I remember at the time thinking like you know, one set of quest
- 9:58permit, I hate the time gating. I wish it was just like, okay,
- 10:02this stuff is available now and you can play it when you get the
- 10:04chance to play it. I hate time gating so much, but
- 10:07at least the Insurrection campaign felt better.
- 10:10When if they had to timegate anything, those quests kind of
- 10:14made sense because you were trying to pull together people
- 10:18from all over the place. You were trying to assault sir
- 10:22more like that made sense to me, but then when we got to 7.2,
- 10:25which I think was the worst patch in Legion with all the
- 10:29broken Shore stuff. When we went back and it was
- 10:31like, killed two hundred demons fine, 10 Treasure Chest.
- 10:35I was like, oh khadgar you're the worst.
- 10:39Yeah. 7.2 had the worst time gating with the entire Legion
- 10:44Front campaign and come back next week and I'll give you
- 10:46another fetch Quest. Yeah, but 7.1 One which did
- 10:51include the night. Hold rate.
- 10:55It was just the again. Gated it they'll release later,
- 10:59but it also had a really weird time getting where it's like,
- 11:03let's do this storyline and the storyline was quite engaging,
- 11:06but then let's wait a week, so that this fruit can mature.
- 11:11So it was again that time gaining, but you didn't care so
- 11:14much because it was story rich and enjoyable, so it does show
- 11:18that time gating can be done. Right in certain circumstances
- 11:22you say, right? But I would still say just don't
- 11:25get my content but you're right that when it came to getting the
- 11:28fruit in the Sir Mark West and stuff like that, at least that
- 11:32felt kind of okay, because you're right, there was a lot
- 11:34more story there once we got to the shore, The Brokerage, or it
- 11:38was just there was no story there whatsoever.
- 11:39It was just like, we just don't want to let you and yet, so, Get
- 11:45resources. But but yeah.
- 11:49So anyway, it seems like we're going to have the same sort of
- 11:51cadence of content. And it seems like at least from
- 11:54what they've announced so far with things like War fronts and
- 11:58the island missions and stuff like that.
- 12:01Feels to me like there's going to be quite a lot of repeatable
- 12:05content in battle for Azeroth. So I feel like I might not Run
- 12:11out of stuff to do, or, like, get bored and they don't feel to
- 12:16me at least, especially the island Expeditions.
- 12:18Don't feel to me, like, just doing world class or just doing
- 12:22dailies like, it seems more engaging than that.
- 12:24And like, they will be more repeatable because of the kind
- 12:28of random generation that goes on behind it with like, you
- 12:31might go to the same island, but it'll have different people
- 12:34there and they'll have a different problem this time.
- 12:36And so, I think it's going to be a I think it's going to be
- 12:40interesting and repeatable and it's going to take awhile to get
- 12:42sick of that content. So, I'm more than ready to start
- 12:48getting in there and playing battle for us around.
- 12:50So I'm glad that we actually have a date now that I can
- 12:52actually count down to definitely.
- 12:56They have such a solid foundation that they set in
- 13:00Legion for all these systems and now we're seeing them just
- 13:03evolving upon it. So, like having those randomly
- 13:06generated islands that you can go and like, I have like
- 13:11different challenges based on like which direction you go W
- 13:15Pond. Where is very engaging content?
- 13:17That seems like it will stay fresh for a while.
- 13:20Same thing that they've done with like Mythic pluses where
- 13:22the same dungeon can change from week to week based on its
- 13:25affixes. Yeah, right.
- 13:27And they've done a great invention that and I'm just like
- 13:32Not my favorite thing, but I think I think you're right that
- 13:36the the islands are going to be the next kind of level to that
- 13:41sort of a system. And a lot of people got a lot of
- 13:43use out of them, I think bus system and the Mythic plus
- 13:46dungeons. That's all staying, that's
- 13:48coming back around again, in battle for us are.
- 13:50All right, so, they're not getting rid of that system.
- 13:53Oh yeah. They're not only not getting rid
- 13:56of it. They're doing many improvements
- 13:57to it. They're shifting around.
- 13:58When affixes are coming. There are actually improving the
- 14:01UI so that you can see how you fare from week to week instead
- 14:06of just like how you fared this week and there's a lot of things
- 14:09that they're doing to like improve that and even improve
- 14:12the viewability of it. So where they've done like the
- 14:16mdis now, they're sort of realizing that this is such a
- 14:19great system that they're really doubling down on it.
- 14:23That's awesome. The other thing that we found
- 14:26out date-wise when it comes to battle for Azeroth is that the
- 14:29pre launch event is going to be four to six weeks prior to the
- 14:32expansion. So somewhere from kind of the
- 14:35beginning of July up until my birthday.
- 14:37My birthday is July 14th. So exactly one month before the
- 14:40launch of the expansion. So, yeah, so sometime in early
- 14:44to mid July, we're going to be getting the pre launch event
- 14:46which is always exciting. One of my favorite parts of
- 14:50Legion was the pre expansion event eye level.
- 14:53So many characters and those invasions doing it, the proper
- 14:57way, not just AFK thing. Like some people if Cain was the
- 15:01way to do it, I actually went around the participated and
- 15:07learned my classes by killing things but yeah so we don't know
- 15:13exactly what the pre launch event is going to be.
- 15:16Do we Well, they are talking about how it's going to be a
- 15:20very story focused event. It's going to start in dark
- 15:24Shore, lead through tell drechsel and Lord are on there
- 15:28was going to be to cinematic event. 14, tell tell, tell
- 15:32yourself and the burning of the tell Giselle and then one in
- 15:36lordran and The Taking of loader on.
- 15:38So it's it seems like the most ambitious pre launch event that
- 15:43they've done yet. That's awesome.
- 15:45There's also going to be that's where we're going to get the
- 15:47story about the weapons, right? And how we're going to go from
- 15:52being a champion in our individual classes and kind of
- 15:56transitioning away from that and going back to being more part of
- 16:01the alliance of part of The Horde, correct?
- 16:04Yeah, they are doing that. Your your Champion is leaving
- 16:08the class Hall and leaving that class, Focus thing and becoming
- 16:12again, affiliated with like the Hoarded Alliance.
- 16:16But the loss of the Parenthood loss of your artifact weapon,
- 16:21we're not entirely sure that that's going to be part of this
- 16:24pre launch event or it might be a little bit earlier.
- 16:27It's not exactly connected with that storyline but who knows
- 16:32when it's going to come out. Yeah, and I mean like there
- 16:36there seems to be I mean we talked last week about all the
- 16:38things that we should be potentially doing leading into
- 16:42the new expansion and the pre launch Is probably where a lot
- 16:46of this stuff is going to start to be patched out.
- 16:48So you've got kind of like, Two and a half more months, possibly
- 16:55three months, but I would say, like if you plan for two months
- 16:58and then it turns out to be 3 months, then, you know, you're
- 17:01good, you don't want to plan for three months and then have it
- 17:03turned out to be two months. So, you've got a, still, a
- 17:07couple of months of time where you can get everything done
- 17:09before the next expansion launches.
- 17:11But make sure that if you have things that you want to do,
- 17:14you're getting them done. Because yeah, it's coming
- 17:17beginning of July at the earliest.
- 17:19But, yeah, make sure that your If checking all those boxes and
- 17:23going down the list of things that you want to make sure that
- 17:24you have done in Legion before we actually get the launch of
- 17:28battle for Azeroth. We also got more information
- 17:31about Allied races, Dark, Iron, Dwarves and Meg, karmic, mag
- 17:36heart. Am I saying that right?
- 17:38The bag heart works? It makes the uncorrupted.
- 17:42Then that's a like, I know where they're from, and I know it's
- 17:45just, there are so many of these names that like, I've read in
- 17:47the novels, or like, even when you're playing through Outland,
- 17:51there's not nearly as much voice acting in some of these older
- 17:54expansions and there isn't the new expansion.
- 17:55So I find like there are some words and some like tribes and
- 18:02stuff that I'm just like I have no idea how people actually say
- 18:06this. I know how I've said it in my
- 18:08head for five years, but anyways, so those two factions,
- 18:13those two Allied races are going to be able or going to be
- 18:16available to players after the war campaign.
- 18:20So after battle for Rocket launches, they're actually going
- 18:23to be available before the zandalari and the Colts errands
- 18:28which have been slated for later in the expansion.
- 18:32Which I mean, I know Manny and I talked about this when the news
- 18:35actually came out, but I'm really disappointed about this
- 18:40and I know Manny you kind of have the opinion of like, well,
- 18:43when did you think we were gonna get them?
- 18:47Yeah, for me it's just the the content needs to be spread out
- 18:54so that each of these races have their time to shine if they just
- 18:57throw them at you, right? When 8.0 launches, you're going
- 19:03to feel bad because, oh, I can't level these.
- 19:05I'm going to fall behind everybody.
- 19:07If they throw it out right, when everybody's going into the raid,
- 19:11people are going to be upset because oh, I should be rating
- 19:14and I've got to go back and lovely.
- 19:15So there's no. Vic time for this to spread it
- 19:18out, and people can enjoy it as they get to it.
- 19:21Yeah, I think my biggest complaint about this
- 19:23announcement was basically that we're getting dark Iron Dwarves
- 19:26and the Orcs, which were announced Like, later before the
- 19:33zandalari and the cool Terrence who were announced earlier, if
- 19:36that makes sense. So, I was kind of expecting The
- 19:41race has to be available in-game kind of in the order that they
- 19:45were announced. So I thought given the way they
- 19:49were talking about them at BlizzCon that the zandalari and
- 19:53the Cultura. Well, I thought that all Six
- 19:55Original Allied races that were announced to BlizzCon.
- 19:58We're going to be available like on launch of the expansion and
- 20:02then when we ended up getting four of the races Early Air
- 20:06quotes early, I was kind of like, oh yeah, a cool bonus.
- 20:10So you know, I can do my void elf and my night Fallen, I can
- 20:16do them now and then when the expansion launches that frees up
- 20:20my time to create and level my zandalari troll, I actually
- 20:24thought there was a chance that they might have the zandalari
- 20:28and the Coulter ins available to us like in the pre launch event.
- 20:33So I could level in those weeks heading into the expansion and
- 20:36then have my zandalari. Ready to play in battle for
- 20:40Azeroth. So I'm definitely disappointed
- 20:42because the zandalari is the one I was looking forward to the
- 20:45most and so now to find that it's going to be later in the
- 20:48expansion to me. That feels like I'm not going to
- 20:52get to play the zandalari trolls and like, when I was wanting to
- 20:56it's like the zandalari are going to be the class that I
- 20:59might use in the next expansion. And that are sorry the race I
- 21:05use in the next expansion and that to me feels bad, like I was
- 21:07expecting to be playing as a zandalari alongside the horde in
- 21:11the battle for lordaeron. Sort of thing, you know, like
- 21:14right in there as we start our war campaign in the launch like
- 21:18that. To me, going to the zandalari
- 21:20and asking for their help and all that kind of stuff.
- 21:23Like, I wanted to be playing as that race while I was having
- 21:26that experience. So I am a little bit
- 21:28disappointed. I agree with your point that
- 21:30there should be a staggered. Release of these Allied races
- 21:34but I just kind of thought it was going to be flipped.
- 21:37I thought we were going to get zandalari and Coulter and first
- 21:40and then dark iron and Orcs after.
- 21:43So It is what it is. We're gonna have to keep
- 21:47waiting. Well, there is a little switch
- 21:49that they did there because the original six races that were
- 21:53announced included dark iron but didn't include to kill.
- 21:56Taryn. So the alliance got their first
- 22:00three right at the at the beginning of the expansion ish.
- 22:05Before the ones that were announced later The Horde, the
- 22:09zandalari were included the initial reveal yet but the
- 22:13magazine agar Orcs are now coming ahead of them.
- 22:15So I can understand how that might make some people feel a
- 22:18little bit bad unless they were fans of the Mac are Orcs, you're
- 22:22right. I thought that the I thought the
- 22:24humans were now at BlizzCon but no you're right.
- 22:28It was it was the Dark Iron Dwarves.
- 22:30Yeah. So interesting.
- 22:33It's just blizzard showing us what they've got in the works,
- 22:36not necessarily what's coming, the exactly they want to share
- 22:40the excitement, right? And if we get too upset about it
- 22:45then they start closing up. So I'm not going to I'm not
- 22:48going to give him too much Flack for this.
- 22:49Yeah and no and I haven't said anything.
- 22:51I didn't, you know at Warcraft devs Gerard where my turtles.
- 22:56But yeah, I am definitely a little bit disappointed about
- 22:58the timing of the zandalari. But you know, one thing that I
- 23:02have have noticed with the Allied races is, We have been
- 23:07unlocking them as it makes sense in the story so far.
- 23:12You could say that come on Dark, Iron Dwarves and the Orcs have
- 23:15been in the game for ever. Why don't we have access to
- 23:18them? But at least with the four that
- 23:23are available right now it feels like good pacing and timing.
- 23:28And you know like we've just finished helping them with all
- 23:31their problems and working with the you know the high mountain.
- 23:36Aaron and all the rest of it. Like, it feels good, timing
- 23:39wise. So I'm sure when we get the
- 23:41zandalari, it's gonna feel good, timing wise.
- 23:44I'm just upset that I couldn't, you know, grind my rep with that
- 23:47faction right off the start, and then start my new race.
- 23:50So, but I'm sure that as soon as it's available, it's going to
- 23:54feel good. And I'm going to be excited
- 23:55about it. So, I will be doing a troll,
- 23:57just not when I thought. They also gave us more
- 24:02information about war fronts. So I keep getting War fronts and
- 24:09Island Expeditions confused but we're friends are the PVE
- 24:15content. The the PVE only content whereas
- 24:18the island Expeditions can be either PVE or PVP.
- 24:21So we're friends are only PVE and it's the competition between
- 24:26factions for strategic location. So have they actually come out
- 24:31and said where these strategic locations are going to exist
- 24:36They have said one and one has been data mind.
- 24:40Oh okay. So, the one that they have
- 24:42talked about is actually the Hinterlands where they will be
- 24:49fighting to take over that location.
- 24:51What it is, is that It's kind of reminiscent of winter grass
- 24:57where one side attacks and one side defense.
- 24:59That's what it sounds like. So then the controlling faction
- 25:02has access to like World bosses and stuff and then the other
- 25:05faction like your there's going to be a time where the areas in
- 25:09conflict and then it's going to be controlled by one or the
- 25:11other depending on who wins the conflict, right?
- 25:14That's what as soon as I read this, I was like, oh my God,
- 25:17this sounds like wintergrasp. And I'm one of the people who I
- 25:20love PVP, but people always say, like, oh, Oh Lich King was like
- 25:24the height of PVP and wintergrasp was so great and I
- 25:27never got to experience that. So I'm so excited that even
- 25:31though it's not a PVE piece there, PVP piece of content, it
- 25:36still has that feel to it. So I'm excited to experience
- 25:40these War friends. I think they're going to be so
- 25:42cool. And so your lands.
- 25:45I'm just I just want to verify looking for a map so that I
- 25:50don't get this totally wrong but this is over in eastern
- 25:52kingdoms, right? And this is like, you know what?
- 25:55I did miss misspoke there. It's not Hinterlands.
- 25:58It's the rathi, highlands one's own South 01, some sotho that's
- 26:03interesting because I was going to say, if it's Hinterlands like
- 26:09this is the kind of area that leads up to the blood elf.
- 26:14Ettore and like ghost lands and stuff.
- 26:16So I guess well, there's still Western plaguelands because of
- 26:20what I was thinking is like, oh, were they going to put a war
- 26:22front between like The Last Stand of The Horde on the
- 26:25Eastern kingdoms, which is the blood elf territory and then do
- 26:29the same somehow over on kalimdor with like the the night
- 26:35owls or I think the draenei are still over there, right?
- 26:39The drain are still over there. We haven't seen anything around
- 26:44that area. Well, one because his smile and
- 26:46it's very isolated. Yes.
- 26:47But what we're seeing for the one that's in calendar that has
- 26:52been data mind is that it looks to be Southern Barrens.
- 26:56So interesting. So that would be where I guess
- 27:03now that there's a crater, it's not much of an alliance
- 27:06stronghold, but you soon for Dana But there was a strong push
- 27:17in the cataclysm where they actually hit the wall off
- 27:21malgor, right? And there was a higher entire
- 27:25big conflict and Flashpoint in that area, and this seems like a
- 27:29natural expansion of that. Hmm.
- 27:34What we're seeing though is that it's not going to be as
- 27:37competitive, like, will The Horde be able to retain control,
- 27:42or will the alliance be able to retain control?
- 27:45It seems almost guaranteed that the attacking team will win and
- 27:51they're doing this because they don't want one faction on any
- 27:54particular area or group of Realms to control the control
- 27:59the area. For prolonged period of time.
- 28:02Mmm, I guess I mean that makes sense from a like gameplay
- 28:08mechanic perspective although not quite as much from a like
- 28:13War perspective. Generally The Defenders are
- 28:17favored over the attackers but Yeah, I can see like them, not
- 28:24wanting that area and those resources and whatever goes
- 28:28along with controlling the war front, to be to dominated On Any
- 28:33Given server at any given time. I wonder.
- 28:35Are they server specific? Or are they like
- 28:39region-specific? Like we saw the Mage Tower in
- 28:42the broken Shore and like everything you were contributing
- 28:45to that. It seems to be region-specific.
- 28:48They, again, all this is in flux, they say region specific.
- 28:52So that in North America, Alliance will hold it for that
- 28:56period. And then horde will hold it.
- 28:59I think that's the wrong step. I honestly think that if they
- 29:02actually broke it down to server, they could allow
- 29:05actually allow a team to successfully defend because I
- 29:09could just pop Realms and then find it when I need it but I
- 29:15guess they I just really want it to be a cohesive, like,
- 29:17everybody put your effort into into it and it actually means
- 29:21something. But the fact that it seems
- 29:23almost guaranteed that it's going to switch hands.
- 29:25Sort of takes away from that. Yeah.
- 29:27And I think that it's they're going to have to look at that
- 29:30balance because if it really feels like the Defenders can't
- 29:35defend, no matter what they do, then the only one that's ever
- 29:39going to matter is going to be the first one, right?
- 29:41Because then it's just going to flip back and forth all the
- 29:43time. So I hope that There is a way
- 29:48for the Defenders to win and that it does feel balanced and
- 29:53you know, every once in a while, we might get, you know, to
- 29:56Alliance controlled periods of time in a row, you know.
- 30:01I don't want it to just switch back and forth because then,
- 30:04that ruins the whole that whole part of the game.
- 30:06Right? Exactly.
- 30:08But like, I again, I think that's why they're doing as a
- 30:10PVE content, right? The players always going to be
- 30:13attackers, right? The NPCs will always be there.
- 30:16Offenders. So who cares if you roll over
- 30:18the NPC's, they're not going to care about it.
- 30:21Yeah, and the way it works is that whatever action controls
- 30:25it, there are the active faction, they get the benefits
- 30:27for that period of time, and they are saying that each
- 30:30faction should control a war front for about a week or so.
- 30:33So, even if you have to like, go away for a weekend, you should
- 30:36still be able to get, get whatever Advantage out of it in
- 30:41a short period of time. Yes, and not worry about it
- 30:44because exactly, that was one of the When they brought in these
- 30:47micro holidays that they were saying that, you know, like we
- 30:49have all these ideas, we want to do them, we want these events
- 30:52last for 24 to 48 hours but then if you missed them like we can't
- 30:56tie big rewards to them because if you miss them, it feels
- 30:58really bad. But then it's like, yeah but now
- 31:01there's no reason for me to go do them.
- 31:02So I feel like they've learned a bit of a lesson from those micro
- 31:07holidays. And now they're just like, okay,
- 31:09well if we're going to tie strategic resources to this, we
- 31:12don't want it flipping back and forth every couple days.
- 31:14We want people to have to have like a whole week so that if you
- 31:17can only play on Thursdays, then you're guaranteed to still have
- 31:21access to your War front. So I think it's a, I think, a
- 31:24week-long is a good amount of time or for war fronts to be
- 31:30active in one faction. So I'm excited about it.
- 31:33I think I'm a little bit more excited about the island
- 31:35Expeditions just because of the PVP aspect to it.
- 31:38But either way, I think both of these are going to be really
- 31:41interesting mechanics that they're putting into the game on
- 31:44top of everything else that we already do.
- 31:46Leveling, and Dungeons and raids everything.
- 31:48So, the game just seems to be getting bigger and bigger
- 31:50bigger. I hope that I can keep track of
- 31:52everything I have to do. Yeah, it looks like they are
- 31:55just continuously expanding the scope, but I also like that the
- 32:01rewards seem to be competitive and not completionist.
- 32:06So if you don't like Mythic pluses, you didn't have to step
- 32:10into Mythic pluses. If you find that war fronts, are
- 32:12your jam and you really want to do those there there.
- 32:15Are but they're not necessary to get the top best gear.
- 32:19Yeah, it seemed to that there were I think putting gear into
- 32:26World bus was kind of the first step towards this in Legion.
- 32:31And I really like that that you could get fairly well, geared
- 32:34doing World quest and you had the option of just doing a whole
- 32:37bunch of World Class by yourself, or going in and doing
- 32:39Dungeons and running Mythic buses and stuff.
- 32:41And then, as you get to the higher Mythic pluses, you can
- 32:43kind of Mythic Plus or Raid. Either way and you'll get the
- 32:47same sort of gear. So I did like the options that
- 32:51they seem to give us because like I like I've mentioned a
- 32:54bazillion times on the show. I am not a fan of Mythic buses,
- 32:57so the fact that I didn't have to do them but I'm still, I
- 33:01mean, I might be what 10 gear points behind you?
- 33:04That makes me feel pretty good. Well, I don't think you're that
- 33:08far behind me but like, yeah, there are different options.
- 33:10The one thing that I didn't like about world quests and it's not
- 33:15Necessarily that it was world-class it was that they
- 33:19were the entire thing with tied in forging where a world-class
- 33:23could become the best said, but that's a topic for another day.
- 33:26Yes, we have a lot to cover and tighten forging is definitely is
- 33:31a conversation that should be had at some point.
- 33:34So we did get some more news, this didn't come at Pax, is
- 33:37actually came a couple days before and it was just a very
- 33:41very brief blog post over at World of Warcraft.
- 33:46I'm telling us that the remote auction house was closing.
- 33:49There wasn't really much reasoning given its, they just
- 33:53kind of said that, they're closing it as of April 18th.
- 33:55So the mobile app and the auction house on the main site
- 33:58are no longer going to be available, but the API is
- 34:02intact. So any Community sites and
- 34:04add-ons that make use of the auction house are going to be
- 34:08unaffected. So I don't know why they did
- 34:12this. I love the remote auction house.
- 34:14I think having a nap I mean They did break it for a little while,
- 34:18but having an app to browse the auction house, I used to love
- 34:22doing that. I don't know why they're doing
- 34:24this. Well, here's the thing Joss
- 34:27nobody knows why they're doing this and you were talking
- 34:30earlier, how you didn't send a like message off to the wow,
- 34:34devs to be like, what the hell was going on with these Allied
- 34:37races? I sent a direct message to the
- 34:39wild as being like, what's going on with the road auction houses?
- 34:43What's the reasoning behind us? I know they get a bunch of
- 34:47tweets that I'm not expecting, exact answer, but I was also
- 34:49looking rude, a blog post checking Reddit threads.
- 34:53Like I spent more time on this little piece of news, then the
- 34:57rest of the news, right? Because they didn't give any
- 35:02reason behind it and then they put out this news in the
- 35:07evening, right before packs comes and gives us all this
- 35:11great stuff. And I look at that and I go it.
- 35:15Like a PR thing to bury a bit of unpopular news.
- 35:21Yeah. And and like you say, I really
- 35:23don't understand why they would do this.
- 35:24I liked using the mobile app. I mean there and again, I'm not
- 35:29a developer so I don't know all the ins and outs, but if the API
- 35:33is still going to be available to the community, so that sites
- 35:36and add-ons still work, that means like, are they going to
- 35:40continue updating the API or like if they're if they're not
- 35:45going to change anything? What's the harm in just leaving
- 35:49it? As it is, you know what I mean?
- 35:51Like, so either, if the API is never going to change, never
- 35:55going to get updated, then all of these Community sites and
- 35:58add-ons eventually might stop working.
- 36:02And if that's the case, why not just leave the mobile app
- 36:06available and then eventually it'll just like die on its own
- 36:10like, do you know what I mean? Like, why take the app down?
- 36:12But keep the API open if it's not going to work eventually.
- 36:17Well, the remote, the remote auction house is separate from
- 36:22the from the API, the API allows the hooks that the community
- 36:27sites can draw information. But remotely, they can't affect
- 36:31in-game add-ons or installed on your client and affect things or
- 36:34automate processes in game. So that's a separate level.
- 36:38Then the road auction house which is the website, right?
- 36:42And the, the app it was like, it's both the, the website and
- 36:46the app, right? Right?
- 36:47And what I don't understand about this is, I know the major
- 36:52rumor out there is that oh you know what, they're going to
- 36:54bring out an app to go along with a BFA, that'll include the
- 36:59for the war campaign and the auction house and that's fine if
- 37:06they wanted to announce that. But there is no sign of that.
- 37:11And that would soften this news. Yeah.
- 37:13And which makes it really great like if they're saying usually
- 37:16if that What was going to happen?
- 37:18They would say this is coming August 14th with the launch of
- 37:23battle for Azeroth. We need to close down the remote
- 37:27Auction House app so that we can work on the new one or something
- 37:32like it. We need to shut down.
- 37:33Those the free up the resources, or the servers or the whatever
- 37:36is, I don't know again. Not a developer, don't know how
- 37:38all this stuff works on the back end.
- 37:40But you know like saying they have to take something away in
- 37:44order to give us something in a couple of months.
- 37:46I I feel like is a lot more reasonable than just saying.
- 37:50Now we're just going to take this way.
- 37:51Okay, thanks. Bye facts.
- 37:53Don't pay attention to the bad news, just packs.
- 37:56Yay. So yeah, I don't know why they
- 38:00did this. No one knows why they did this.
- 38:01Hopefully, we get some more information and although, if we
- 38:04don't have any more information while it's still like, hot news
- 38:07then I don't think that they're ever going to give us more
- 38:09information. It's just one more tool.
- 38:11That seems to be disappearing. We do have the legion companion
- 38:15app, so I don't know if that's going to be.
- 38:17Updated for battle for Azeroth but that never had anything.
- 38:21That was just the map to show you like World quest and and to
- 38:24send your dudes out on missions and things like that that never
- 38:28had any impact on like it never involved the auction house or
- 38:32anything else. So and also didn't have like
- 38:34Armory information stored in it. So I think right now I have like
- 38:38my authenticator the legion companion app and the WoW armory
- 38:43which was the mobile auction house so that I have three apps
- 38:46on my phone too. To do.
- 38:47Wow. Stuff.
- 38:48Like maybe they're gonna smoosh it all together but you're
- 38:52right. I feel like the smoosh it all
- 38:53together announcement would have been included with this if that
- 38:56was going to happen, if I have to have a legion app and then
- 39:00also a battle for Azeroth app, I'm God.
- 39:03It's so annoying. Yeah, I'm expecting the legion
- 39:07app to get shut down eventually. It does seems weird, especially
- 39:12if the Legion class Hall, orders are still Generate or resources
- 39:19or any kind of gold, it just seems like that's the thing that
- 39:23shouldn't be. Shut down, not their own auction
- 39:25house but the yeah. But as we keep saying, we
- 39:28haven't heard anything from blizzard.
- 39:30So all we have is rumor mongering and wait, gossiping.
- 39:34Yeah, we had somebody solo a Mythic 15.
- 39:42What? I can't even five-man a Mythic
- 39:4615 dungeon so me own LOL has been at this for a long time has
- 39:54so load. Current raid bosses has been
- 39:58going at this before their demon Hunters on a death knight and
- 40:02just says group content. Ha.
- 40:05And then go to proceed to destroy it.
- 40:08So this is the first time a Mythic 15.
- 40:11Us has been soloed. It was a Cathedral of Eternal
- 40:17Night did it in the time limit where me on has done hierarchies
- 40:24but not within the time and this was bursting skittish fortified
- 40:29it was done on the MDI realm so that the key could be
- 40:32customized, right? And that could make multiple
- 40:35attempts with the same same key, same settings to actually like
- 40:38get this done. There's a YouTube video about
- 40:42this where it is absolutely insane.
- 40:45All the tricks and stuff that's pulled off just to, like, get
- 40:49the time done and make these insane pools where you're
- 40:53pulling entire hallways, I don't.
- 40:56But again, so you say he did on a Demon Hunter Demon Hunter, it
- 41:01was a 970 eye level Demon Hunter, a two traits in the
- 41:06weapon, right? So, actually, not that much
- 41:09higher than people in our raid. Yeah, because I was just I think
- 41:13I'm like 950 Beef or fish in terms of item level and I
- 41:19haven't hit 80 yet. I think I'm on 79 in terms of
- 41:23traits in the weapon. So yeah, this this isn't too far
- 41:27off. Although I mean 3 weapon traits,
- 41:31when it's like 500 billion artifact power to get another
- 41:37weapon trait right now. But still yeah, so Not that far
- 41:43off from our current power levels and damn, like, it makes
- 41:46me feel like such a shit player, like, I can't even get a group
- 41:51of five together to do a Mythic 15 in time let alone.
- 41:55Soloing it so good on you there. That's insane.
- 42:00Yeah, well it's it is a testament to like what people
- 42:03can do with just raw skill and persistence.
- 42:08I'm sure this was not like a one shot.
- 42:11Or like or even good. If you go to the YouTube video
- 42:17in the description Beyond goes through all of the different
- 42:23talents and how they switch things up and exactly what they
- 42:28did to get through all of this. Hmm.
- 42:30Honestly, this is this is mind-boggling because I'm I
- 42:36level 964 in my PVP gear and actually at my PVP gear.
- 42:42I'm 970 and I, I couldn't do this.
- 42:47I have so hats off. This is an amazing thing.
- 42:52We have a little bit more Alpha news for you guys this week.
- 42:56We got a new build Bolden was opened for testing.
- 43:00So this is another zanda Lars own.
- 43:02Yay, more troll things. We're actually going to talk a
- 43:05lot about zandalari today but have you had a chance to
- 43:09actually poke around? Yes, yes, I have been pushing
- 43:13through the alpha. A lot.
- 43:15I am now mostly through this Zone.
- 43:18Testing testing, various things. Falling through the world again
- 43:22and again. It is, it is a desolate Zone
- 43:28because it is Desert filled with sand and everything.
- 43:31But there's really a beauty about it, as well.
- 43:36Unlike zones like tenaris, right, there are like sweeping
- 43:42Dunes that like actually have elevation that.
- 43:44You climb up one, Dune, and you look out into the expanse and
- 43:47you can see like a voices in the background.
- 43:49So, this is a really beautifully crafted.
- 43:52Acted Zone and it's filled with like, a lot of well, races at
- 43:59people are clamoring over the Seth, the Seth rack are the
- 44:02snake people that were shown the Volterra at that.
- 44:05Everybody's been going crazy about are those the little fox
- 44:08people. Those are the fox people and
- 44:11they come into play in this Zone quite early.
- 44:15And then this is where the exiled criminals of the
- 44:18zandalari are, are sent to live out the rest.
- 44:22Saturday's interesting. I'm looking forward to getting
- 44:27in and playing some like and I'm so on the fence when it comes to
- 44:31Alpha because I'm just like do I want these like zones and images
- 44:38and story bits kind of spoiled for me?
- 44:41Like do I want to get in there and try it or do I want to be
- 44:44surprised? And yeah I'm always on the fence
- 44:46and it comes to Alpha because like I want to try out my class
- 44:49and I want to try out other classes to figure out if I
- 44:52should be leveling something right now, if things feel really
- 44:54different, but I'm like, I also don't want spoilers too much.
- 45:00So what do I do here? Well, the level cap has been
- 45:06raised to 120 now. So you can hit max level, but if
- 45:12you want to test out your character and not or rather
- 45:18template character, because you can't, because you can't get in
- 45:21your transfer over your character yet.
- 45:23Yeah, that's open up later. You can go to the training
- 45:28dummies when you first spawn and to see how it feels without
- 45:33ruining any of the story. You'll see like a little bit of
- 45:36the meat major city, but without talking to people, you're not
- 45:40going to ruin anything so that's a possibility.
- 45:42Once they unlock the 120 template, you can see how these
- 45:47things are playing at the end game.
- 45:48But for me, my first playthrough, I am just pushing
- 45:52to get to max level so that I can hit end game.
- 45:56That's where I live. I live at the end game.
- 45:59Yeah, and I don't actually get to enjoy the story as much until
- 46:04I'm playing through an alt and I'm like okay what was actually
- 46:07happening here instead of just like where does this gold Arrow
- 46:10go? Okay let me go kill the guys
- 46:11over there and then come back. So I don't care about the story
- 46:16spoilers like this gets me a little early preview and I
- 46:19really do like giving the feedback and seeing how things
- 46:22change there are there are now elements in the story that were
- 46:26there that No longer there, right?
- 46:28And it's all it's really interesting for me, one of the
- 46:32big things that they are now testing.
- 46:34System, wise is the heart of Azeroth and the Azurite gear.
- 46:39This was really poorly implemented.
- 46:41There's one piece of gear that you get when you start a new new
- 46:46tune and so chest piece, and it has the most basic placeholder
- 46:52UI. There are four tiers of Azurite
- 46:58Powers which are much like the traits that you would choose on
- 47:02your your artifact weapon except that they don't Branch together.
- 47:06You just have Tier 1 which has four different choices.
- 47:11Or in the case of demon Hunters it would have three and four,
- 47:17Druids, it would have five because it is All the different
- 47:21classes, right? Each spec spec has a one that's
- 47:27sort of tailored for them. And then there's one more that
- 47:30sort of a general upgrade on the first tier Okay, go down.
- 47:35Yeah. And then from there, there's
- 47:37like, found totally way complicated or anything.
- 47:41Once you see it, it doesn't seem complicated.
- 47:44In fact, it seems like on the initial piece of gear.
- 47:48There's not really much of a choice.
- 47:50You pick the one that is good for your, your spec or you.
- 47:54Pick the generally good one and that's it.
- 47:59There's a bunch that are like kind of spec specific.
- 48:02So, if you want to take, In the case of Druid, like a tank role,
- 48:05versus the healing role versus a DPS role, or like stamina boost
- 48:12or something, right? That's sort of the thing.
- 48:15And in the case of some classes, it will modify a spell that
- 48:19multiple specs use, but obviously one speckle favorite
- 48:24more than another. Okay, Though there is a bit of
- 48:27choice there but not really, you should just go for the one that
- 48:31is optimized for your spec or you go for the generally, good
- 48:34one. And then As a tears go down.
- 48:38There are not specific to your spec.
- 48:40There's just less choices but they gives you something.
- 48:42Like when you do damage you also heal, right?
- 48:46It just has like a large amount of let you leech attached to it
- 48:50and then the final tier has a single upgrade, right?
- 48:55Which will increase the item level of the peace right now?
- 49:01Write the piece that's shown now that we've had a lot more
- 49:06explanation. The piece that shown is really
- 49:08just leveling gear, it's something that you're going to
- 49:11replace. It's not something that is
- 49:13supposed to be representative of what you're going to get
- 49:15endgame. And so just think of it as like
- 49:20a questing green even though it's a blue piece, just think of
- 49:24it as a questing green, that's like who this is good and then
- 49:28two or one zone down there down, you're going to replace it with
- 49:32something else, right? Well that's kind of what they
- 49:35were talking about because you basically go from having your
- 49:37legendary weapon to having a legendary neckpiece at that.
- 49:40Then you Empower to empower the gear around it or at least
- 49:44that's kind of how it was explained.
- 49:46So the as a right gear pieces which are what your Helm chest
- 49:51and legs. I think our we're never meant to
- 49:54be hung onto the same way that you hung onto your legendary
- 49:58weapon. Like they were supposed to be
- 49:59constantly replaced. So I'm wondering when you like
- 50:04so you have your legendary weapon that you're leveling up
- 50:07or sorry your legendary neck piece that you're leveling up.
- 50:11When you replace your Azurite year, does your gear, just like
- 50:16look at the level of your weapon and go, okay, you've unlocked to
- 50:20tears so far. So you get to choose Tier 1 and
- 50:23tier 2 right away. Exactly.
- 50:26So like each of the tears will have a level attached to it.
- 50:32The piece that's on the alpha right now as its first here at
- 50:37Azurite level 1 then, as Right level for is the next here.
- 50:41Then 7 is next here than 10 is next here.
- 50:44As you level up your heart of Azeroth right it'll go from
- 50:49level one to like level 20, if you pick up another piece of
- 50:52gear and it steers are 1 4 7 and 10, you have already unlocked
- 50:57and have the ability to choose some each of those tears, one of
- 51:00the powers. So, as you switch out, you can
- 51:02insulate, customize that. So then when you get into, sorry
- 51:06it would stand to reason then which might be the point you're
- 51:08about to make. So if I cut you off from All
- 51:10right, but then it would stand to reason that higher item level
- 51:14gear like more End Game Gear. Its first hear of choices might
- 51:19potentially not unlock until like 10 or 12, then exactly.
- 51:24Yeah. When you pick up a higher piece
- 51:26of gear, its first here might actually start at 10, right?
- 51:30So if you get it earlier, you may only be able to unlock the
- 51:34first here or if you're getting something from a raid that might
- 51:38require item level, sorry? Right.
- 51:40That's right. Level 50, right?
- 51:42Where the slow level gear, doesn't require anything like
- 51:45that. The three pieces of gear are the
- 51:48helm, the chest and shoulders shoulders.
- 51:51I don't know why I thought it was pants but that.
- 51:55Yeah, so that I mean it does become kind of interesting
- 51:57because then it's like, okay well I have a piece of gear that
- 52:01might be a lower level but I have all four traits unlocked
- 52:05versus a higher piece of gear with only one trade unlocked and
- 52:08then you have to actually make the decision.
- 52:10Like which one is going to be better.
- 52:12Like so it's nice that there are those levels of necessarily want
- 52:17to say customization, but at least it seems like there's
- 52:20decisions to be made. It's not necessarily just
- 52:22straight up like, oh, okay. Item level upgrade swap it out.
- 52:26Yo, exactly. There are a number of
- 52:29interesting things, one none of the, as right gear that is on
- 52:34the alpha right now. Seems to have any secondary to
- 52:38secondary bonuses. So that is a In a weird sort of
- 52:41thing. The other thing is that they
- 52:45haven't told us exactly how we're going to change the
- 52:48powers. They said that there will be a
- 52:49way but they don't know how often they want us to be able to
- 52:52change those Powers. So if it is restrictive, you're
- 52:58looking at carrying multiple sets of gear or Depending on how
- 53:04your been maxing, your definitely want to have multiple
- 53:07sets of gear for multiple specs since the ability seem to be
- 53:11very spec focused. But then there may also be that
- 53:16you want to have multiple gear for multiple types of fight
- 53:20layouts where, hey, this is an AOE fight.
- 53:24So I want this talent and I need to go back to town to switch it.
- 53:28So I just want a second piece of gear, so I can switch it
- 53:30quickly, which it will be interesting to see how easy they
- 53:35make this. Because I know that was one
- 53:37thing that they talked about, even just this like, changing
- 53:39talents and stuff and being able to do things away from town,
- 53:43they didn't want people to feel that they Had to constantly be
- 53:45going back to town between fights and things in stuff like
- 53:49raised. So that's something that kind of
- 53:53done away with. I don't necessarily know about a
- 53:56Warlords of Draenor, but it feels like in Legion especially
- 53:59even just with the tomes that I don't even have to go to
- 54:02arrested, XP area to change my talent.
- 54:04So it seems like they didn't want me to go back to town at
- 54:07all. And now they might be sending us
- 54:10back to town more often. So it just it'll be interesting
- 54:13to see how this is actually. Implemented because again, this
- 54:15is still Alpha. This is still like early early.
- 54:18So even though we've got a launch date of August, April is
- 54:21still early. So none of this stuff is final,
- 54:25I'm sure so yeah again, just get in there.
- 54:28Get testing and give them your feedback because the more
- 54:31feedback we give the more choices that they're going to
- 54:34make that are going to be in line with what the community
- 54:35thinks. Oh yeah I look forward to seeing
- 54:39how all this works but it sounds interesting at least and I'm
- 54:42glad that like I don't know. I hope it's not quite as crazy
- 54:47as the AP AKA thing was in Legion.
- 54:51I mean, I'm at the point now where like I'm getting 19
- 54:54billion artifact power for doing things.
- 54:57And I'm just like these numbers just don't even make sense
- 55:00anymore. Like it seemed to get out of
- 55:02control very quickly. So I hope they learned some
- 55:04lessons from that and the Heart of Azeroth ends up being a
- 55:07little bit different, but we'll see, we'll see.
- 55:10Lol, they have settled to do. They have said that the numbers
- 55:14will not get as crazy. So they have at least learned
- 55:17that lesson, there is going to be a knowledge like system where
- 55:21it will allow for catch-up and going forward.
- 55:26It looks like they are learning a lot of lessons.
- 55:28This is something that is a replacement, not only for the
- 55:31artifact weapons but also the legendary.
- 55:34So we are going to see some really kind of cool effects on
- 55:37like higher-end gear. So I don't look at this and
- 55:41freak out like men. People had initially done when
- 55:44they saw this piece of gear, I just realize that this is just
- 55:47the first piece of gear that you get.
- 55:49And it really is just a piece of your leveling that you are going
- 55:52to replace. And the real power is going to
- 55:54come from the raid, as right gear, the high-level War fronts
- 56:00and Island Expeditions. That's where it's going to have
- 56:04the traits that really make sense.
- 56:07And the fact that they are tailored and they're not random
- 56:10traits and they are going to be something that is It is tailored
- 56:14to where you get it from means that you are going to get gear.
- 56:16That's like all about Mobility or CC and a Battleground.
- 56:21Where if you're doing like high-level dungeon content,
- 56:23you're going to get something that is more focused on going
- 56:26through. Dungeons and raids are going to
- 56:28be something that's more focused about going through rates and
- 56:30that's what's going to make your ass right here special.
- 56:33I like that. So then you can actually like
- 56:35Target pieces of gear to so you can say like oh man I need some
- 56:38Survivor survivability stuff. I should go, you know do some
- 56:42more rating and get some That way or like, maybe I need to
- 56:44increase my damage. Well, you know, dungeons is
- 56:47where you get high damage gear like stuff like that, to, you
- 56:50know, be able to Target the parts where your character is
- 56:53lacking. So, I like that a lot.
- 56:55That's really cool gearing strategy.
- 56:56So, again, early, Alpha and so things are subject to change,
- 57:00but I like the idea of the Azurite gear as it stands, as
- 57:05it's been explained. Anyways, so I look forward to
- 57:07seeing what they do with that going forward.
- 57:09That brings us to our lure section this week.
- 57:12We are covering the Zandalari trolls were continuing on from
- 57:15our talk about vol'jin. And since the Sandy Lori are
- 57:18going to be playing a large role in battle for Azeroth as well as
- 57:20becoming a playable race. We are taking listeners Time,
- 57:23Lord and Johan suggestion to cover the zandalari.
- 57:27So let's talk about who they are and how they went from an enemy
- 57:30to a potential ally. So early on the zandalari
- 57:33Empire, it is the longest lasting Empire in Azeroth
- 57:38existing for over sixteen Thousand Years.
- 57:43One of the earliest known to troll tribes and the earliest
- 57:47known breed of troll. So, in the early days, the
- 57:50zandalari lived on a mountain range in southern kalimdor,
- 57:52alongside many of the wild Gods, whom they called the Lowell.
- 57:55We talked a lot about the low last week, with, with all of
- 57:58vol'jin story. The trolls named the mountain
- 58:02range. Sandal are many of trolls would
- 58:04come to live there, but the zandalari themselves took the
- 58:07residents in the highest peaks of the mountains.
- 58:09He had lots and lots of other smaller tribes of trolls who
- 58:12kind of settled on the kind of sides and in the shadow of the
- 58:16mountain but the zandalari are they were like, hey we want to,
- 58:20we want to be above everybody else.
- 58:22So they took all the high peaks, they built shrines and
- 58:26eventually all those shrines kind of got bigger and bigger to
- 58:29the point that they grew. Together and became the Temple
- 58:32City of Zoll bizarre. Yes.
- 58:35And in these days, the trolls that did not Gather in the great
- 58:38city were led by The Shadowhunters over time as the
- 58:41troll. Civilization, grew and more and
- 58:43more trolls gravitated towards the temple cities, the role of
- 58:46The Shadowhunters lessened, but they were still well respected.
- 58:51Troll Society was built on a caste system which eventually
- 58:54evolved into their own people. Daniel are a word acai sorry
- 58:58zandalari desired knowledge above everyone else.
- 59:01And though they were rebellious and desired Conquest, they
- 59:07formed the strongest core of the tribes, the trolls left Zenda
- 59:13free Society to fund, other tribes and never returned to his
- 59:17Handler. Two tribes grew out of the
- 59:19zandalari, Exodus. We were constantly fighting each
- 59:22other for territory and for power, the Armani Forest trolls
- 59:27and the gurubashi jungle trolls. A third tribe, the the current,
- 59:32sorry, your akari ice trolls, coexisted with them as they had
- 59:36no thirst for power. The zandalari became priests
- 59:40like cast for all trolls preserving troll history and
- 59:44attempting to further. All troll interest regardless of
- 59:46tribe, they had the respect of all tribes, but did not roll
- 59:50over anyone but themselves. Right, so now we've got this
- 59:54kind of society that was built out of the One zandalari Tribe,
- 59:58but kind of splintered over time with the zandalari forming, this
- 1:00:03like knowledge hunting, sort of historian roll.
- 1:00:08Let's say, so there was one place above all else.
- 1:00:12That was forbidden to the trolls by their witch doctors and their
- 1:00:15priests, it was a small mound of black and stone at the base of
- 1:00:19the zandalari mountain range. The lowest had warned the
- 1:00:22mystics against disturbing these stones but of course, eventually
- 1:00:25curiosity got the better of some of the trolls.
- 1:00:28These rebellious trolls bind the stone to discover that it wasn't
- 1:00:32stone at all, but the hide of a monstrous creature.
- 1:00:34They believed to be a powerful lower.
- 1:00:37These trolls performed her, horrifying rituals, including
- 1:00:41live sacrifices in order to awaken the creature awakened.
- 1:00:47The cathodic. See General.
- 1:00:49And I will not pronounce this right?
- 1:00:51It ticks ticks, I think. Yes.
- 1:00:54Okay. So the general critics emerged
- 1:00:57from his sleep and slotted all those who had awakened in the
- 1:01:01lower had buried. Catholics long ago as he fled
- 1:01:04from the battle against the keeper tear.
- 1:01:08Now, fully awake kicks roused, the a Creator who lived
- 1:01:13underground to rage war against the zandalari in the name of the
- 1:01:16old gods. This threat was like nothing.
- 1:01:19The trolls had ever faced, many smaller tribes fell to the occur
- 1:01:23before the zandalari United all tribes into a single Force,
- 1:01:26which was called the Empire of zul with the aid of the other
- 1:01:30tribes, and the low of the zandalari were able to whittle
- 1:01:33down the occurs numbers and even wounded kathak, the akir fled.
- 1:01:38But the trolls soon learned that the insectoids needed to be
- 1:01:41wiped out completely because if any managed to escape
- 1:01:44underground, they would establish a new colony and renew
- 1:01:47their attack. The tribes spread across the
- 1:01:49continent of kalimdor, hunting down all these insects
- 1:01:52establishing strongholds, to exterminate the akir, and then
- 1:01:56claimed the land for themselves. The akir corrupted, the Titan
- 1:02:00Force everywhere. They went sending powerful
- 1:02:03allies, like, the tol'vir and the Abu sent against their
- 1:02:06enemies. Finally, the Amani were able to
- 1:02:09defeat Catholics in a battle that cost them nearly their
- 1:02:13entire tribe. The money would become Legends
- 1:02:17among the other trolls establishing the city of zolomon
- 1:02:20as their new home. After centuries of brutal War,
- 1:02:23without a common enemy. The Troll factions grew apart,
- 1:02:28though. The zandalari remained in their
- 1:02:30role as the spiritual center of the patrols across the continent
- 1:02:34and we should mention when we're talking about kalimdor.
- 1:02:36Remember this is all before the shatter are the Sun during the
- 1:02:40shattering. I can't remember which one they
- 1:02:42both start with s and they sound so familiar and they sound so I
- 1:02:45always get them confused but this is what it was when it was
- 1:02:48the first supercontinent exactly.
- 1:02:50This kalimdor was the first original continent on Azeroth
- 1:02:54before the night elves, blew everything up.
- 1:02:56So this is before there was a kalimdor in eastern kingdoms and
- 1:02:59all the islands in between. So this is our one big super
- 1:03:02continent of kalimdor. So after the war was over the
- 1:03:07zandalari, approached Lee Shen, who you guys might, remember if
- 1:03:10you played through Mists of Pandaria, Alicia and was the
- 1:03:13leader of the mogu, in the vale of Of Eternal blossoms which was
- 1:03:16south of the troll Nation, Zulu, Zulu, throw the high priest has
- 1:03:21proposed a trade, the Magoo's Arcane knowledge for the
- 1:03:25zandalari, his knowledge of the world beyond the vale of Eternal
- 1:03:28blossoms, both Empires were strong and knew.
- 1:03:31If they went to war, the Survivor would be significantly
- 1:03:34weaker and likely overtaken by lesser Powers.
- 1:03:37So, the mogu decided to stand with the zandalari to become
- 1:03:40Unstoppable. The Empire's would be dealt a
- 1:03:43near fatal blow when late And went after the forge of
- 1:03:46origination in Oldham accompanied by his troll allies,
- 1:03:50he laid Siege to the, tol'vir who guarded the forge, who were
- 1:03:53furious at him for betraying keeper raw.
- 1:03:56Instead of letting the forge fall into his hands.
- 1:03:58The Tovar used to forge to purge Oldham of all life, killing
- 1:04:02latian and a zandalari leadership.
- 1:04:06Wolf. Both Empires were left with
- 1:04:08massive power vacuums and append.
- 1:04:10Aryan rebelled in a few centuries later.
- 1:04:13The Mogul would then left overthrown.
- 1:04:16After much debate, the zandalari decided to attack the Pandaren
- 1:04:21in order to secure the land that had been promised to them by the
- 1:04:24moku, as they did not believe the Pandaren would honor the
- 1:04:27deals made by their former Masters.
- 1:04:29The Pandaren forces, eventually, repelled the zandalari by taming
- 1:04:33Cloud serpents and using them to defend.
- 1:04:35What was now? Pandaria, the zandalari
- 1:04:37retreated, back in, shame to their mountains.
- 1:04:40And this kind of was the beginning of the end of the
- 1:04:44zandalari as a A huge world power because as you're going to
- 1:04:48see over the next, you Millennium, the zandalari they
- 1:04:53get beat down and have to retreat in shame.
- 1:04:56A lot. It's quite a theme with them.
- 1:04:58So it really shapes their history in the choices they
- 1:05:01make. And it all goes back to this
- 1:05:03kind of first defeat against first, the the tol'vir up in
- 1:05:10Oldham and then the ensuing, Attempted of invasion of
- 1:05:15Pandaria. So, the trolls continue to
- 1:05:18control much of the continent of kalimdor.
- 1:05:20But over time, a new race actually started to evolve due
- 1:05:24to their proximity to The Well of Eternity, trolls began to
- 1:05:27grow sleeker and adopted New Traditions as they evolved.
- 1:05:31These became the night elves who were highly intelligent and able
- 1:05:34to harness the mystical powers of the world and began to build
- 1:05:38their own Empire independent of their zandalari.
- 1:05:41Ancestors, the empire, Herzl was rapidly equipped by the kaltura
- 1:05:45Empire. And in the ensuing, Golden Age.
- 1:05:48The Caldor I spread across the continent driving trolls from
- 1:05:51their territories, under the rule of Queen azshara who I'm
- 1:05:54sure you guys are familiar with these two empires came into
- 1:05:58direct conflict. Unable to resist the power of
- 1:06:01the night, Elven sorcery, the empire, zul fell before the
- 1:06:04Caldor. I queen azshara, had no interest
- 1:06:07in controlling is Angela. And so, in return for remaining
- 1:06:10outside of kaldor, I territory and Accord was And the zandalari
- 1:06:14were permitted to remain in their mountains.
- 1:06:16And so the terms of surrender were humiliating to the trolls,
- 1:06:20they're used to being the Congress but they had pretty
- 1:06:23much been pushed back into just the core of their empire and
- 1:06:27they had no choice to. But to agree.
- 1:06:31These events would Foster resentment towards the elves
- 1:06:35that the trolls would display even to the present day.
- 1:06:39When the Great Sun during happened, the zandalari use
- 1:06:41magic to protect their realm are merging to find that their realm
- 1:06:47had now, become an island nation separate from the rest of the
- 1:06:49world. As a result, they turn to
- 1:06:51mastering the Seas as a way of life.
- 1:06:54While exploring, the sees the zandalari discovered the island
- 1:06:57of Kazan and A Primitive goblins that lived there.
- 1:07:00They also discovered a rare resource, had your might a force
- 1:07:05and force the Goblins to mine it for them.
- 1:07:08For thousands of years, the Goblins remain too weak to
- 1:07:10resist and suffered under the zandalari rule while they were
- 1:07:14exploring the Seas, they also explored into the Eastern
- 1:07:17Kingdom, and they found their Imani Brothers at war with the
- 1:07:20High Elves of helpful off. The zandalari named Jinta the
- 1:07:26leader of the Amani to stop the infighting who led the trolls,
- 1:07:30alongside the powerful, low against the elves though winning
- 1:07:34for a while, the trolls were eventually stopped by an
- 1:07:36alliance of Elves and the human Kingdom of arathor Jinta along
- 1:07:41with many other Imani were massacred in a firestorm cast by
- 1:07:45the first ever. Human Mages, which caused the
- 1:07:48trolls to repeat Retreat. Back to zandalari again.
- 1:07:51In shame those soon, Whispers and Larry of The Growing Power
- 1:07:55of the Gara Gara basheer Empire in the name, and the name of
- 1:08:00their loja care, This was given, sorry, this gave the zandalari
- 1:08:07hope of reclaiming their once, great Empire.
- 1:08:10The zandalari investigated discovered that his hair was
- 1:08:14actually hit here at the whole. The soulflayer, Who demanded
- 1:08:18sacrifice in exchange for power and who constantly stronger as
- 1:08:22the blood was shed in his name. Zandalari travel to
- 1:08:26stranglethorn bail the war in the hirabayashi to find the
- 1:08:31empire in civil unrest, due to the amount of sacrifices, how
- 1:08:34car was demanding. Together with the three fingers
- 1:08:39Heretics, with the carrier boshy, that did not follow the
- 1:08:41care. The zandalari were able to
- 1:08:43defeat the soul Slayer. Sorry, soulflayer big difference
- 1:08:48there flaying or slaying big differently.
- 1:08:51There's a difference and that was at the cost of the Care,
- 1:08:55boshy Empire, even in Victory, the zandalari were defeated The
- 1:09:01final blow to the zandalari came in the form of an uprising of
- 1:09:05their Goblin slaves. Mining catcha might, for
- 1:09:08thousand of years, had awakened, the Goblins dormant intelligence
- 1:09:13and for years, they had hid weapons and Technology advances
- 1:09:16in the mines from their zandalari overseers, 100 years
- 1:09:20before the opening of the dark portal, the Goblins were bailed
- 1:09:23completely driving. The zandalari from Kazan with
- 1:09:26technology that then Tulare could not even dream of these
- 1:09:30goblins were use their Newfound intelligence to warming
- 1:09:33themselves. Read it cartels to Vie for the
- 1:09:36leadership of the island. And again, you're seeing the the
- 1:09:40parallel between these great Empires that had slaves, Rebel,
- 1:09:45and take over, and just these Empires that were once great,
- 1:09:48just losing face. And it was really interesting
- 1:09:51about that is that the zandalari actually thought of themselves
- 1:09:55as better than or more than the mogu.
- 1:10:00Zandalari didn't actually have to rely on slaves for their
- 1:10:04empire to run. They really thought of
- 1:10:06themselves as better and look down on the mogu and then they
- 1:10:09it just it got to the point that they were like well we don't
- 1:10:13have as many people now, you know, we've had all these
- 1:10:16different Wars, like we don't have the power, we once did and
- 1:10:20then so as their empire began to decline, they had to rely on
- 1:10:24slave labor to do all the mining.
- 1:10:27So it was really interesting to see the, the kind of All from
- 1:10:30grace, that happened to the zandalari over the time, after
- 1:10:35the, after the great Sun, during the zandalari, largely kept to
- 1:10:39themselves after their Goblin Rebellion.
- 1:10:41Until rumors of cars, return reached them troll, priests were
- 1:10:45attempting to revive the Fallen low at zul'gurub, a shadow of
- 1:10:49their former power. The zandalari were unable to
- 1:10:51deal with the threat alone and so contacted the new horde
- 1:10:54through the darkspear tribe that we know who they talk to to help
- 1:10:59them deal with. Threat after The Horde
- 1:11:02successfully defeated a car. His heart was given to the
- 1:11:05zandalari to be banished from Azeroth forever and so they
- 1:11:08retreated back into themselves as part of their scholarly,
- 1:11:11Pursuits travel to North, End to document.
- 1:11:15The fall of the takari to The Scourge, they were horrified to
- 1:11:18defy, the district re were killing their own lower to gain
- 1:11:22the powers in an attempt to fight off the scourge.
- 1:11:25The zandalari opposed the sicari but refused to Aid in the fight
- 1:11:29against the scourge leaving them to fall in Zoll track.
- 1:11:32Not long after a dark prophets all warned the king ra s rustic
- 1:11:39on rustic on Of a terrible cataclysm after receiving a
- 1:11:45vision of a great armor, Dragon clenching, the world in his
- 1:11:48Jaws. And we know who that turned out
- 1:11:51to be. Yep.
- 1:11:54So, return to the king many times each time with the
- 1:11:56Visions, more and more dire, speaking of the fall of the
- 1:12:00empire into the sea. If Ice King, drastic on the
- 1:12:03unite, the other trolls, tribes, and to abandon their doomed
- 1:12:08Homeland, but the king did not believe the prophet and so did
- 1:12:12nothing aside from granting Soul.
- 1:12:14The use of his golden Fleet, this say, it has sent him away
- 1:12:17from sandal are So as we all know, the cataclysm did come and
- 1:12:23the island of zandalari split in two with some of the capital
- 1:12:27falling into the sea, while the region of Naz mere began to
- 1:12:30sink. Zul took the golden Fleet and
- 1:12:32sailed the world reaching out to all troll tribes, even those
- 1:12:36normally considered lesser trolls by The zandalari Nobles,
- 1:12:40the zandalari split into two smaller groups.
- 1:12:42Those who attempted to build a neutral empire under zul and
- 1:12:46those who stayed behind on sandal are to rebuild.
- 1:12:49Under King rostec on those old and his sandal re-return to
- 1:12:53Pandaria. When the Mist retreated
- 1:12:56attempting to reclaim the territory promised to them
- 1:12:58thousands of years, earlier to create a new Homeland in order
- 1:13:02to support their efforts and defeat the Pandaren zsalynn, his
- 1:13:05followers revived latian there. Once powerful, MoGo a lie.
- 1:13:10It was only through the efforts of the alliance and horde, that
- 1:13:13The Thunder King was thought the remaining zandalari dispersed
- 1:13:17and the dreams of a neutral empire were ended.
- 1:13:21Which is when we come basically to modern day and the events at
- 1:13:25the start of battle for Azeroth. Zul has returned with his forces
- 1:13:28Tuesday and Al are, which is now in the throes of a civil war
- 1:13:31between them and the trolls who remained led by Raza Khan.
- 1:13:35So this is why we, you know, don't hear too too much about
- 1:13:39the zandalari, they're a little bit, I think in vanilla, which
- 1:13:43is talking about all the stuff that happened at school grub and
- 1:13:47then there's some stuff in Lich King with Azul Drac but the We
- 1:13:51actually see the zandalari and fight the zandalari a lot in
- 1:13:54Pandaria and these are Zulan his followers so that is why like?
- 1:13:58Because I know personally, I was a little bit confused when
- 1:14:00they're like, ah, sandal or he's going to be Allied race because
- 1:14:03I was like, WTF wasn't, I just trying to kill them in Pandaria.
- 1:14:07Why are we suddenly all friends turns out, we're going to be
- 1:14:10friends with The Rustic on zandalari.
- 1:14:12Not the zul zandalari. So, or well, potentially unless
- 1:14:17maybe we're all going to be friends after we resolve the
- 1:14:20Civil War. Who knows?
- 1:14:21But it's The Rustic on zandalari tribe that we are going to be
- 1:14:27approaching, I would assume but that's why well enemy and allies
- 1:14:31when it comes to the zandalari and I love that they've been
- 1:14:34around, they're literally the oldest Empire.
- 1:14:37That's so cool. They are the oldest Empire and
- 1:14:41they are the race that originally dominated the world.
- 1:14:46They are storied and in so many ways.
- 1:14:49What we are finding now is that throughout our travels and
- 1:14:53meeting all these different empires.
- 1:14:57Not only were they all interconnected, but Zell has
- 1:15:00been playing in the background for so many times and now we are
- 1:15:04meeting the figure of Zola himself.
- 1:15:07Right? Because I don't think we
- 1:15:09actually meet him in and area at any point in time.
- 1:15:13He's kind of like the puppet master in the background.
- 1:15:15I don't think that he had an NPC character.
- 1:15:18Even in game That all this will be the first time that he's
- 1:15:22making an in-game appearance and he is not going to be the enemy
- 1:15:29that we think is at the beginning of the expansion,
- 1:15:35we're actually going to be rescuing Soul, interesting.
- 1:15:39I can't wait to see how this all plays out.
- 1:15:42But yeah, I hope you guys enjoyed our coverage of the
- 1:15:44zandalari Empire. I hope that kind of gets you
- 1:15:47excited about the Allied race for whenever we actually get.
- 1:15:51I know I'm still super excited. I'm even more excited than I was
- 1:15:54originally, which I didn't think could happen, but yeah, I'm
- 1:15:57going to be starting a zandalari day, one as soon as I can.
- 1:16:01That brings us to our community, resources and add-ons section of
- 1:16:05the show this week. We thought that since the wrote
- 1:16:08Auction House app is actually going away.
- 1:16:10That we would tell you guys about some in-game add-ons that
- 1:16:13you can use. So this week, we're going to be
- 1:16:15talking about tradeskillmaster and then we're probably going to
- 1:16:18cover in the coming weeks. We're going to cover a couple of
- 1:16:20more kind of auction sites or sorry auction add-ons.
- 1:16:24Because the best time to make gold is the start of a new
- 1:16:28expansion. So want to make sure you guys
- 1:16:30are ready for battle. Azeroth, which is right around
- 1:16:32the corner. So tradeskillmaster is an add-on
- 1:16:36Suite that is designed to help both casual gold makers and
- 1:16:40experienced Auction House goblins.
- 1:16:42As they say streamlined their gold making processes, including
- 1:16:46everything from crafting things like buying mats to actually
- 1:16:50deal finding and creating lists for canceling and creating
- 1:16:54auctions. So this add-on, it is
- 1:16:59extraordinarily powerful but like a lot of Powerful add-ons
- 1:17:04in World of Warcraft. It takes a lot of setting up and
- 1:17:08I know I have definitely hit my head against the
- 1:17:12tradeskillmaster wall many, many times.
- 1:17:16So the one thing that I'm going to talk about is the one thing
- 1:17:20that I use and I really like is actually their website, it's not
- 1:17:24even the add-on, but basically if you go to
- 1:17:27tradeskillmaster.com, then sign up for an account, you can
- 1:17:31actually choose your realm and then it will I'll actually give
- 1:17:34you a list in dashboard. That tells you what's currently
- 1:17:39available in the black market auction house, which I always
- 1:17:41forget to go check when I'm in game as well as great deals on
- 1:17:45your realm. So it'll give you the Like
- 1:17:49average value of the item alongside what it's currently
- 1:17:52selling on the auction house for.
- 1:17:54So you can go in and you can grab some deals using that
- 1:17:57dashboard. And then if you have groups set
- 1:17:59up, then it will also show you group deals, but groups is where
- 1:18:04it starts to lose me. So, I know Manny.
- 1:18:07You've actually you have a little bit of experience with
- 1:18:09this add-on, so I'm going to let you take it away when it comes
- 1:18:12to talking about the in-game add-on.
- 1:18:15Okay? Well, this is why it's Community
- 1:18:17Resources. Has and add-ons not just add ons
- 1:18:20because TSM covers, not only an add-on for the game, not only a
- 1:18:25website, but also a desktop app and they all work in conjunction
- 1:18:29to get the most bang out of it when you set up the add-on,
- 1:18:36right? It's different modules, you go
- 1:18:39through, you can set up various lists where it will
- 1:18:45Automatically post things check against where, where things are
- 1:18:50selling right now. What the buyouts are and then
- 1:18:52adjust your pricing accordingly. It's as you said, it's a very
- 1:18:57powerful thing that requires a lot of setup to master, but you
- 1:19:02can set up different threshold so if you see an item and it is
- 1:19:06currently 25% of its actual market value, it will not
- 1:19:12actually post it. Because it doesn't want to rip
- 1:19:16you off. It'll say it'll post everything
- 1:19:19that is within your threshold to sell, it will post partial
- 1:19:26Stacks if you allow it to or it'll only post full stacks and
- 1:19:30it'll automatically set that price.
- 1:19:32So that you are making a buyout of this much percentage of
- 1:19:35market value and a starting bid of this much percentage, right?
- 1:19:39So that that's really interesting because I know
- 1:19:41that's my I'm always really cautious.
- 1:19:44With automating things in add-ons, especially when it
- 1:19:48comes to even, like, selling grazed vendors and stuff, which
- 1:19:52I know I should be a little bit like less crazy and just like I
- 1:19:57mean I never need Gray's. There's literally stuff that's
- 1:20:00flagged as junk in Warcraft API so like I should just be like
- 1:20:06yeah sell my junk but even that makes me a little nervous
- 1:20:09sometimes. So I like the idea of being able
- 1:20:12to actually go in and tell it what thresholds I'm comfortable
- 1:20:17with even if it's something like I don't want you to post
- 1:20:20anything unless it's like 95 percent of market value or
- 1:20:23higher, you know, like you could be super crazy about it and make
- 1:20:28sure that you're always turning a profit sort of thing.
- 1:20:32But yeah, I like that. You can actually set thresholds
- 1:20:35for like whether or not it should post it because that
- 1:20:39would always be my worried, right?
- 1:20:40Is like I spent all this time, farming, all these different
- 1:20:42things and then, you know, it gets posted for 10% of its
- 1:20:45market value and I'm like, oh, I wish I'd realized that I never
- 1:20:49would have posted it. Exactly, and that's where the
- 1:20:53app comes involved. The app is just something that
- 1:20:56runs in the background and it pulls data from the website.
- 1:21:02So it's not pulling in-game resources.
- 1:21:04It's running in the background separate from.
- 1:21:06Wow, making sure that it knows what things are actually valued
- 1:21:10and tell to your app. Okay, this is this is what the
- 1:21:15actual market value of something, is without that, this
- 1:21:19is actually really great because it's like, as we've been sitting
- 1:21:23here recording, I've actually had the desktop app just running
- 1:21:25in the background and it's given me notifications like three or
- 1:21:28four times, telling me that it's pulled, all the auction values
- 1:21:30again from the two Realms that I've told it to follow the place
- 1:21:34where I have all my horde characters and then the place I
- 1:21:36have my home, my one lone Alliance character So it's
- 1:21:40actually really interesting because this is replacing all of
- 1:21:45your in-game auction house scanning.
- 1:21:47So I know in the other app that I used to use, I had to sit
- 1:21:51there and hit the scan button and wait, you know, 15 minutes
- 1:21:55for it to actually complete a scan of the full auction house
- 1:21:59but if you have the tradeskillmaster desktop app
- 1:22:02running, it's just constantly pulling those prices.
- 1:22:05So you don't have to sit there and manually scan the auction
- 1:22:07house in game anymore, which is Huge time, waster, or Time
- 1:22:13Saver, I get the app is a time-saver scanning.
- 1:22:16The auction house is a time-waster exact exact and The
- 1:22:23beauty of list is that you can set up different thresholds and
- 1:22:28and different rules for different lists, so that you can
- 1:22:31have all your or and raw materials.
- 1:22:34On one list you can have gems and professionally crafted ear
- 1:22:40on a separate list. You can have things that are set
- 1:22:44up so that hey, I know this is a rare item.
- 1:22:49Make sure that this is a separate category from
- 1:22:52something. I'm selling every day.
- 1:22:53Mmm. Yeah, I really like that.
- 1:22:57That's, I see. And this is the thing.
- 1:22:59I feel like this add-on is extraordinarily powerful, but I
- 1:23:04swear I've gone into those talking to Manny today and it's
- 1:23:08like, oh, we need some tips and tricks for using this add-on, I
- 1:23:11was like tip number one uninstall because I've tried so
- 1:23:16many times to set this up and it is it's daunting.
- 1:23:19I would say one thing that I noticed today, when I was
- 1:23:22looking at the actual ad on in game, mmmmm is when you hit like
- 1:23:27/ TSM, which brings up your ad on settings.
- 1:23:30I didn't realize at first that the kind of square pictures at
- 1:23:36the top are actually different pages of options.
- 1:23:41It took me way too long to figure that out.
- 1:23:43So, when it comes to you, I TSM definitely is difficult to use.
- 1:23:49It's not user-friendly, like some of the other add-ons are,
- 1:23:52it's not flashy, but I feel like that's because it is A powerful
- 1:23:55piece of software. So you just kind of have to
- 1:23:58learn to navigate it and when it comes to learning how to
- 1:24:02navigate tradeskillmaster, there are a lot of different resources
- 1:24:06so we have a link in the show notes to a user that Manny has
- 1:24:10actually found and used in the past.
- 1:24:12So do you want to tell us a little bit about the YouTube
- 1:24:14videos? You're recommending.
- 1:24:15Yep, there is a YouTuber hazelnutty who does a lot of
- 1:24:20videos on usually pets, but in this case, she's done.
- 1:24:24A last 101 class. 10 to guide on setting up and using traits, go
- 1:24:31manager and its many separate videos.
- 1:24:33There is a real quick video that is just your beginner guide.
- 1:24:38How do I start, where do I start?
- 1:24:40And from there, use different modules on setting up various
- 1:24:43things. The number one trick that I say
- 1:24:45to everybody is set it up over time, don't try and do
- 1:24:49everything at once. Yeah, it is.
- 1:24:53It's definitely a daunting task but I think overall in the end
- 1:24:58it's going to be worth it. So again, you can find links to
- 1:25:01everything at tradeskillmaster.com.
- 1:25:04There's also going to be links in our show notes to the YouTube
- 1:25:07videos of Manny mentioned, as well as the information on where
- 1:25:10to get the add-on and some of their support.
- 1:25:12Because there are on top of the, the guys from hazelnutty that
- 1:25:16Manny just mentioned. There are quite a lot of guides
- 1:25:19that are actually listed under the The official
- 1:25:21tradeskillmaster.com support page and there's everything from
- 1:25:26there are some video guides. There's also some written
- 1:25:28guides. There's forums there's all kinds
- 1:25:30of information at tradeskillmaster.com and they
- 1:25:32also have a new version coming out tradeskillmaster for right
- 1:25:36now we're in tradeskillmaster 3. So 4 is coming out.
- 1:25:40Soon TM, probably around battle for Azeroth.
- 1:25:43I would assume. But I believe it's in.
- 1:25:47Sorry, I am crossing my fingers for that the stuff in for looks
- 1:25:51a lot more streamlined. So, less headache for you and
- 1:25:56I'm sure it like the other ago. One of the thing that we didn't
- 1:25:58talk about there are ways. Once you've kind of started your
- 1:26:02setup, there are ways to actually import other users
- 1:26:06lists and, and settings and stuff.
- 1:26:09So, that's another thing that you can actually look for when
- 1:26:12you're using tradeskillmaster is using The actual import settings
- 1:26:16to kind of have a jumping off point because many, you said,
- 1:26:19you can actually edit things that you import within the
- 1:26:23add-on. Yeah, once you've imported it,
- 1:26:25you can then go through and adjust the, the various things
- 1:26:29as you need to. One other thing to look at is
- 1:26:35that you are when you are importing stuff, that you are
- 1:26:37looking at how long they're posting things.
- 1:26:41And And different things like that, because before you post
- 1:26:47anything, you do want to know how it affects your realm.
- 1:26:51Certain Realms are have very robust Auction House, the market
- 1:26:55and things go quickly in certain categories.
- 1:26:58Other Realms are much slower, so make sure that you are posting,
- 1:27:02what's right for your realm, not just blindly following an
- 1:27:05import, right? I feel like Earthen ring might
- 1:27:08be one of the ones that doesn't have the healthiest economy.
- 1:27:13Earthen ring actually has a pretty good economy having
- 1:27:16switched over there at the beginning of the year.
- 1:27:20There are some things that are crazy over an Earthen ring.
- 1:27:22People seem to love their pets but and transmog is another hot
- 1:27:28thing. But yeah, that is the stuff that
- 1:27:30will differ from round to round. You might have people who are
- 1:27:33crazy about gems and stuff on a certain realm, you might have
- 1:27:38people who are crazy about transmog on another Realm.
- 1:27:43If you play the auction house you might start recognizing
- 1:27:46names on the auction house of people that you just go, you
- 1:27:49know what, I'm not going to post while they're going and that's
- 1:27:53all this stuff that as you start to play the auction house,
- 1:27:55you'll learn. Well, it is, it's basically like
- 1:27:59its own little game within the game.
- 1:28:00So, I mean, if you guys have any interest whatsoever in learning
- 1:28:04about how to play the auction house game, then yeah, again
- 1:28:08tradeskillmaster.com. There's lots of support and lots
- 1:28:10of guides on how to not only use.
- 1:28:13Like there's basically a lot of guess, gold makers and auction
- 1:28:16house gurus who have done guides on tradeskillmaster.
- 1:28:19So if you go and check out the guys for tradeskillmaster you're
- 1:28:23likely to find a lot of these gold making personalities and
- 1:28:26you're going to pick up a lot of just general tips and tricks for
- 1:28:30playing the auction house. So that is our first ad on
- 1:28:33Resort. While community resource I guess
- 1:28:35is a better name because it has so many different parts to it
- 1:28:38but our first Auction House community resource so
- 1:28:41tradeskillmaster I guess check back next week when we'll be
- 1:28:46talking about probably Auctioneer or possibly
- 1:28:50oxygenator one of the two because those are ones I've used
- 1:28:53in the past. So I am looking forward to
- 1:28:55actually getting in and setting up tradeskillmaster because I do
- 1:28:59think it's really powerful but you need to set aside time for
- 1:29:02sure. This is this is not a jump in
- 1:29:05and try to figure it out yourself type of an add-on.
- 1:29:10That brings us to our email section this week.
- 1:29:12We got an email to Faz podcast at gmail.com from Zhu.
- 1:29:17Zhu who says I'm an avid transmog Enthusiast.
- 1:29:20My favorite thing to do is transmog, my characters to look
- 1:29:22like other classes. My problem is I'm having a hard
- 1:29:25time tracking tier look alike and recolor sets and finding out
- 1:29:29what pieces? I'm missing the in-game
- 1:29:31collection tab doesn't help I've tried looking for add-ons, but
- 1:29:34they only seem to help with the bat classes set.
- 1:29:37I'm at a loss. I was wondering if you to or the
- 1:29:39listeners. Any help for me, love the show.
- 1:29:42So my recommendation Zuzu are, I've used in the past Margot,
- 1:29:47which I think is kind of like the go-to transmog add-on.
- 1:29:53I was about to say app, but I was like, that's the wrong word
- 1:29:56add-on. We also talked last week about
- 1:29:58all the things which does have an element of transmog there.
- 1:30:02But if you're looking for an actual viewer, all the things I
- 1:30:07don't think has a gear viewer. MOG it definitely does though
- 1:30:13you can also go to Wowhead because Wowhead.com transmog,
- 1:30:17there is a ton of tools over there including information
- 1:30:21about like which pieces have the same appearance as well as
- 1:30:27there's the model viewer. There's, you know, recolors like
- 1:30:30all that kind of information that you're looking for.
- 1:30:32Wow. Head actually has a pretty big
- 1:30:34transmog database. Now Manny, do you have any tips
- 1:30:37or tricks for looking for transmog?
- 1:30:39Things? There was a sight.
- 1:30:43I think it was like, Warcraft role-playing.com or something
- 1:30:47like that, and that did have a lot of transmog, but I think
- 1:30:50that's shut down. Now, I don't know.
- 1:30:53That's like, honestly, Wowhead has done such a great job, but
- 1:30:59there are even YouTube videos where they go.
- 1:31:01Like, these are some great trans mogs and here's where you can
- 1:31:05find stuff. You can look through almost
- 1:31:09anywhere to, to find it. And I'm Not going to knock the
- 1:31:15in-game app, rather the in-game menus, because it now shows, not
- 1:31:22only, hey, this is the set and this is where you can get pieces
- 1:31:25of the set. You can look up individual items
- 1:31:27and find like three different versions of it.
- 1:31:30In the just normal. Warcraft UI, a nice little
- 1:31:35thing. I find the collection tab,
- 1:31:38you're right. It doesn't really help because
- 1:31:39with the collection tab shows you are the like The set.
- 1:31:44So the stuff from rating, the stuff from PvP, like the things
- 1:31:47that are an actual full set, but I do find if I go talk to the
- 1:31:52transmog, guide to go, like, change my gear, I find that is a
- 1:31:56lot more robust because you can actually like see the things you
- 1:31:59haven't collected yet, you can hover over them.
- 1:32:01And again, it'll show you all the places you can get it.
- 1:32:06And so that will show you the entirety of the potential things
- 1:32:11that you can use to transmog onto.
- 1:32:13Character. So that's usually how I do my
- 1:32:16browsing is I just go talk to the transmog guy and then I
- 1:32:19click uncollected and then I go and look at everything.
- 1:32:22I don't have yet and see if there's anything I should be
- 1:32:24trying for It's I mean you're probably going to have more luck
- 1:32:30with Community sites and just Community Forum posts and stuff
- 1:32:35when it comes to finding inspiration for transmog.
- 1:32:39I guess because that's the one thing.
- 1:32:42Like, it is very time consuming to go through the whole, not the
- 1:32:46collection tab but the hole Collection of transmog like
- 1:32:52potential available transmog pieces, for sure.
- 1:32:55And you can actually modify your collection tab to show you stuff
- 1:32:58that you have in collected. So that is a possibility.
- 1:33:03The Collection tab only shows stuff.
- 1:33:05That's in full sets though. Nope, there's the sets and then
- 1:33:09there's the individual items. So, like, oh, the top panel game
- 1:33:12collection tab in the in-game collection tab.
- 1:33:15I realize that I thought I had to go talk to the and smog guy
- 1:33:18to see all that stuff. Oh no.
- 1:33:20When you're really bored, go ahead and go through that
- 1:33:22because it has, he said, it takes a lot of time to go
- 1:33:25through all the possible things that you could possibly ever
- 1:33:28equip. And, at least that way it's set
- 1:33:32to your player and your character when you go through
- 1:33:36it, all but Ma get is a really good one.
- 1:33:40A lot of people that I know who are really into transmog, use
- 1:33:43that. So shout out to Linux, who's
- 1:33:46crazy about that stuff. I used to use Margot all the
- 1:33:50time before they brought in the legion, can the legion
- 1:33:54collection Tab and then I've just been trying to kind of
- 1:33:57complete my set. So I haven't been paying as much
- 1:33:59attention to transmog so I haven't been enabling Margot but
- 1:34:03I know like when they first introduced The Collection tab my
- 1:34:06first thought was hmm that looks a whole lot like Margot except
- 1:34:09for Margot. Lets you do things like search
- 1:34:12by color which you can't do in the collection tab that I know
- 1:34:15of. So Margot, is it?
- 1:34:18Very powerful and it does have a viewer as well.
- 1:34:20And you can like make transmog sets and shopping lists and
- 1:34:24stuff like that. So I recommend Margot for sure
- 1:34:28if you're going to focus on transmog but if lister's if you
- 1:34:32guys have any other suggestions for Zuzu, any cool transmog
- 1:34:36sites that you use and YouTubers you follow or any add-ons you
- 1:34:39use definitely email them into fast podcast at gmail.com or you
- 1:34:44can tweet us. We are at Fez podcast whatever
- 1:34:47works for you. As we look forward to hearing
- 1:34:49from you, that's going to do it for us this week.
- 1:34:52Thank you guys so much for listening to for Azeroth Manny.
- 1:34:54Where can folks find you on the internet?
- 1:34:57You can find me on Twitter at True Villain many.
- 1:35:01That's true without the e and I do want to give one shot out.
- 1:35:04One more shot at I guess to my friends and Valhalla Knights on
- 1:35:08Shadow Moon, booshed managed to call me off of her clip.
- 1:35:12The cliff, when they were talking about this auction house
- 1:35:14thinks like, was really upset about this.
- 1:35:19I'm glad they were able to talk you down, you can find me on
- 1:35:23Twitter and twitch, I'm at jaws plays.
- 1:35:25You can also check out Joss place.com for link.
- 1:35:27All the shows and streams that I do.
- 1:35:29You can look for lots of hearthstone content this week
- 1:35:32because we have the new expansion launching on Thursday.
- 1:35:35So yeah, they're going to be streaming a lot of hearthstone
- 1:35:37content not to mention lots and lots of episodes of The Angry
- 1:35:40Chicken. So yeah, make sure again you
- 1:35:43check me out on Twitch. I'm at jaws plays.
- 1:35:45Thank you guys so much for listening and we'll see you next
- 1:35:47week.