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40. The Mist · The Book-Watchers

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Be on it because us. Welcome, Welcome to the Quatchers. Yeah,
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yesh hi, what's goes? Pop? And I'm Devin with a feline in
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my arms who's just scrubbing every everywhere. And I'm Jacob with a canine who's
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sitting on my bed licking herself. Yeah. Our pets, mm hmm.
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Our reasons to live. A little furry cat, not cat, our little
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furry dog that's a pamper princess. And a three legged cat that's a freaking
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diva slash pampered princess too, slash pampered princess. I try to pamper her
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anyway. So welcome back to book watchers, where we talking about books and
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sometimes if they have adaptations, we might talk about that. Sometimes we're not
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We're not exclude. We're not doing just those anymore. If you haven't quite
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figured out by this point, granted most of them we've talked about so far
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do kind of but a loud god, when would this episode be posted?
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Oh? So will it be like after the Drifts series? Yes? Yeah,
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so I'll probably post that the Drift. So the last three weeks we
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talked about D and D series of books, which was the first three,
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the first set of them of this series, The Legend, The Legends of
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drist my first three books, Homeland, Exile, and so you're in.
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Yeah. So today we're going back to Stephen King. Yeah, Stephen King.
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Today. I thought to do one of the more popular books, or
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at least the most one of these most recognizable books next to Carry and that
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is The Mist Yes, yeah, so my you know, of course,
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Stephen So, I don't know Stephen King. His horror is a lot his
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horror novels kind of taking a mix of like different elements from creatures two slashers,
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to psychological to mysticism, occultism. In the midst case, it's something
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like, it's definitely creatures because there's gonna be a lot of creepy critters running
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around in this book. And it's subsequent and also the movie and somewhat the
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TV show that was released last year. I did not finish the TV the
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season for the TV shows, so I don't know if it's actually good or
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what's going on with that. So did you finish it or I finished it?
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We'll get into that personally. Personally, this is one of the few
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This is one of the few movies that actually was very accurate to the that
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was very faithful to the book, and accurate in terms of like the plot
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and the synops and like what goes on in it. The only difference between
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the the only real difference between the movie and the book was that the movie
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actually has an ending. Oh that ending, we will talk about it.
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Oh that fucked me up. Yeah it's yeah, that's that's the definition.
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That is the definition of jumping to conclusions. Oh and I think I'm granted
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I have not read the book. The miss is on my list of books
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to read, so obviously Jacob here will be the one leading the conversation.
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But like I've always wondered, like the book ending like this, or did
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movie take its own little spend to its to an ending? So yeah,
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we'll get to the well we'll talk get you will get to that. I
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don't want to like just jump the gun and spoil it for you. Just
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so, what year did the did the Mists come out? So the book
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itself was originally published back in nineteen eighty you know, let me pull up
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my book because like I also have other resources, and like I've seen multiple
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dates, but I'm pretty sure those dates are those other dates are just like
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other publication dates so like, and of course my kindle edition of The Miss
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does not have the publication dates fucking for Google copyright yep. So the story
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was previously published in s in Skeleton Crew in nineteen eighty before it was published.
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H yeah, so let me let me pull up by the resources.
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So The Mist itself was first published by Viking Press in nineteen eighty as part
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of the Dark Forces anthology and edit, and then an an adversion was subsequently
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included in Stephen kings nineteen eighty five collection Skeleton Crew. So just to get
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to the this book, at least my copy of the book is about one
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hundred and sixty six pages long. Of course that's including all of like the
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extra shit that you know, like copyright publication and things like that. Yeah.
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So The Miss, the story of the Mists itself takes place in a
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small town and yeah, you guessed it, Maine. As a lot of
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those yeah, he loves like he a lot of you'll you'll find out very
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quickly that a lot of Stephen King's novels take place somewhere in New England,
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mainly uh, Maine. For star starters, this this story takes place in
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the town of Bridgeton, so pretty much what so, the stories is centered
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around the protagonists and narrator David Drayton. David. It follows him and his
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young son and a group of other people as they survived this this very odd
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phenomenon that appears in their small town. So, the morning after a very
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severe thunderstorm, power goes out all over town and out of nowhere, this
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unnaturally thick cloud of mist spreads over the town and at first, at first,
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like the local saw it, they thought it was just like a bunch
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of clouds coming in, But turns out notes really dense fog, really dense
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fog, and no one really knows what like what's causing it. Some locals
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believe it was caused by something some sort of experiment going on in a nearby
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military installation, which they're not wrong. Yeah, So you know, there's
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a lot of speculation around the mist because the nearby military installation has been working
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on something, a rumored project called the Arrowhead Project. One theory holds that
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the previous night's storm disrupted experiments in the facility, that it was in the
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facility that was being conducted and so far the installation and the communities closest to
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it have not been heard from since before the storms started, So I was
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like indicator, like, Okay, something's going on here. So are protagonist
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David Drayton, alongside his young son Billy, and neighbor Brent Norton, who's
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uh m hmm. It was a bit of a dick. I'm just gonna
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put that out there. They go to the local supermarket for groceries, and
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they leave David's wife behind at their home. While they're at the supermarket,
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the mist itself envelopes the entire town, completely blotting out the sun. And
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as soon as it hits as soon as the mist hits them, covers the
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store, the store itself, they feel an earthquake. Like joke, Well
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I'm trying to remember is like what caught What I'm trying to remember in the
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book, like what caused them to like not go out into the mist?
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It goes in the movie, uh some guy, one of the locals come
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running into the store as the miss like comes in and uh like uh like
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in the movie, one of the locals run into the store freaking out like
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something to the miss and commits everyone to stay inside. I'm sure to remember
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what howlett went in, wasn't. Oh yeah, that's in the movie,
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and yes, someone can, I don't send me on a miss. And
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then some technical thing came around and dragged them out. Yeah, so that's
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what happened. Okay, sorry about that. Uh So, pretty much the
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same thing happened in the book as in the movie. When the when the
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Miss starts rolling in, a man uh comes running into the market and his
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face is covered and blood, his nose was bleeding, and he's yelling.
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He's yelling out something is in the fog. And you know, he's yelling
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out something in the fog, something took this other guy. You know,
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he's freaking out, and he tells everyone, don't go out into the don't
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go out into the miss. It's not safe. It's not safe at all.
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So every people, the people that are trapped in the in the convenience
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store, they begin to barricade the door and make sure nobody goes out because
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clearly something is not right, is not natural about the miss. So everyone
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decides to pretty much wait out the miss see if it will display it on
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its own. And you know, so while everyone's milling about, one of
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the store employees. Kid named Norm tries to go outside to fix the clog
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vent in the store's generator because without it they lose power in the store.
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But as he's trying to clog it, he ends up opening one of the
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back one of the loading bay doors, and when he does that, this
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this massive tentacle comes snaking in and ends up dragging the poor boy out into
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the mist. And when he when he does when it does that, a
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bunch of other tentacles come in and David, along with the assistant manager,
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Ali Weeks, having witnesses having witnessed Norm's death, they try to convince the
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remaining survivors of what's happening and really press them not to leave the store.
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There's a one there's a group of people including his David's neighbor, the guy
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the asshole I mentioned earlier, Brent Norton, him and a small group of
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people. They don't believe David, and they instead decide to go outside and
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find help, but they don't even make it halfway across the parking lot before
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all of them are attacked and killed by a bunch of unnatural predatory creatures.
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Having witnessed this, now everybody in the store is like, oh, like,
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okay, we're gonna stay in the store. Now, nobody go out
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there. You want to live, I choose life. So the assistant manager,
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Ali, he's given a revolver by one of the other one of the
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other survivors, girl named Amanda. She and they're the four of them,
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like David, his son, Ali, Amanda, they kind of form this
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little group where they're just like, h like, yeah, let's like stick
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together because their small group is probably the more rational thinking of the entire store.
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They yeah, like David's and Olie saw these monsters and everyone else saw
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what happened out in the parking lot, but they're the ones thinking, yeah,
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we need to like be smart about this and try to stay calm and
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not cause a panic. Now, I just want to point out, so,
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ah, there is a there's one individual and elderly religious fanatic name Missus
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Carmody. She begins to incite panic and the and everyone else by like preaching
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the gospel and saying that it's the end times and everything, and you know,
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she it's basically just trying to like she's because she's because she's become what's
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called a demagogue, which is basically a person who you is like facts or
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information, whether it be it religious, political, or whatever what have you,
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and they twist it in their own way to manipulate people. So she's
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basically like she she's trying to like she's basically like like trying to set herself
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up as like some sort of religious leader, and it's working because people are
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the people in the store are terrified of what's going on outside, so they
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have so they and they don't understand why it's happening. So who do they
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turn to but the crazy religious lady who's preaching that, you know, God
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will save them and it's the end times and shit. While she's doing this,
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the store is attacked by these large insects and so like this. So
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what happens was like these insects began to crawl over the outside of the store,
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and they began attracting these terrasaur like creatures, and those terrasaurs like began
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like feeding on the bugs. The thing about these bugs is that they kind
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of look like big locusts like creatures. They have like they're insectoid, but
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they also have like a long prehensible tale like a scorpion's tale, and This
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is where like missus Carmody begins to like really like push it. Yeah,
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it's the end time because in the Bible, when when the apocalypse happens,
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and God will unleash the demon of the abyss Abadon, and Abodon will haul
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forth call forth his army of these locusts. Like demons, and these locusts,
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they are described as having like the face of a man, the hair
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of a woman that are they have crowns, the body of a of a
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locus, the body and wings of a locusts, and the stinger of a
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scorpion. Oh Lord, have mercy now, I mean those yep. Oh
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yeah, that's that shit crazy. But anyway, so when these bugs start
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crawling all over the front of the windows, one of them manages to slip
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a squirming side through a broken window and it killed, but not before it
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stings somebody and they unfortunately die very terribly. Oh yeah, yeah, fucked
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up. Yeah. After this event, David tries to lead a group of
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people to the nearby pharmacy to try to like see about finding a way of
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escaping, as well as trying to retrieve medicine for one of the people who
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was injured in the attack who was injured in that attack. While they were
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at the pharmacy, David and his companions encounter huge spider like creatures that,
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yeah, that due to the loss of power in the pharmacy, got in
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through the pharmacy's propped open doors and killed everyone inside. So the spiders and
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other creatures from the miss attack and while the expedition makes it back to the
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market, they lose almost half their numbers. So so this is also feeding
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into Missus Carmody's rhetoric of the end times and ship and more and more people
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are flocking to her. Yeah, they begin to follow up. They begin
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to follow Missus Carmody's like preaching with like religious fervor and shit, and she
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even like convinces them to sacrifice one of the one of the other people in
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the store to the creatures outside. Is a way of like appeasing these creatures
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and like getting faith, like getting forgiveness from God. So like uh,
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while like before so like while everything's happening, there was a group of three
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individuals that mainly kept themselves in the book. Later, these three were found
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in the back of the store. They had gone into one of the storerooms
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and they found themselves and pond further investigation. The people realize that these guys
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worked at that military installation. And the problem is is that because the thing
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is this leads everyone to believe that these guys were the ones responsible for the
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attack, like for everything that's happening now in the now. The thing about
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the book, The thing about the book is that they don't really like Stephen
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King doesn't really address that very much. It's just more like, oh,
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they kind of just come to that conclusion on their own. They don't really
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he doesn't it doesn't really talk about they don't really talk about what actually happened,
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Like they don't get a chance to talk to them, whether they can
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get an explanation. Oh, let's see here. I'm sorry, let me
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pull up my book real quick, because I want to see if they actually
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if this also happened in the movie, because like in the movie, the
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same thing happens. They do find the bodies of the soldiers, but one
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of them didn't kill himself and he was the one that ends up getting sacrificed
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to the monsters because he tells everyone that they were experimenting with a way of
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opening a portal to another dimension and it got out of hand. Oh excuse
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me, it got out of hands, and portal was open to another dimension
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and all this crap just flooded into our world. Yeah. So in the
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book there was only two of them and they took their own lives because they
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know what they did. And in the movie there were three of them,
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but two hung themselves just like in the book, but the third one chose
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life, but in the end was ended up getting thrown out into the miss
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by Missus Cammerdy and Pharmody I'm sorry, and ended up getting ended up becoming
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dinner for one of the giant creatures outside. And then of course, and
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this all happened before the pharmacy incident, so it was after the pharmacy incident
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at pretty much everything descends into chaos. Missus Carmody's group, Missus carmody influence
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grows more powerful and she's really trying to get everyone to follow her, and
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those who don't, she wants to start, like throwing him out into the
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miss as heretics, but David and his group, But David, alongside his
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son, the assistant manager, Ali Amanda, and a few other survivors decide
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that they're going to try to escape to David's car, but just as they're
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about to leave, Missus Carmody stop confronts them and calls in the crowd to
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offer young Billy and Amanda sacrifices. But Ali, the assistant manager, who
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as I mentioned earlier, got a revolver from Amanda who who carries peace,
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ends up shooting Missus Carmody. H Yeah, he ends up shooting her and
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you know, her final words to David's group is you all die out there.
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So with their leader dead now, the so called congregation dissolves into further
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confusion and David and his group make their way out to his car. Unfortunately,
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in routes to the car, Ali and one other survivor gets killed by
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the creatures outside, and another one of the survivors runs back to the store.
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The rest of the group attempt to reach David. Managed to make it
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to the car and they drive away, and first things first, David wants
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to run back run back to his home to see to try to rescue his
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wife, but the driveway itself is blocked by fallen trees, and they do
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manage to get back up to the house, but they find that his wife
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is dead. She'd been she had unfortunately been killed by the creatures, so
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sorrow's praise. Yes. So this is pretty much where the book begins to
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come to a conclusion. Now, the thing about the ending in the midst
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the book, it is not a very satisfying ending because it is a very
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open ended ending. The group yep. So the group drives south through the
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devastated and miss shrouded at New England, and they do and they do witness
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further signs of catastrophe and more creatures of unknown origin. So while they're driving,
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they do stop for the night in like a safe space, safe place,
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and David manages to he searches through broadband radio frequencies and through the miss
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interference. He believes he hears someone say Hartford, and he believes that's a
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possibly a safe place. And that's where the book ends. That's it.
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It's very open ended. It's like maybe like it kind of like it feels
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like Stephen King may have intended to like write a sequel to this novel,
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but he never did, as he usually does. And if Stephen King were
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to write a sequel to this book, it's probably not going to be for
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another thirty years. That is fair yeah, because if we look at The
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Shining and then Doctor Sleep, you know, there's like one a good twenty
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to thirty year times frame between the two books. Yeah, yep, so
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that is the end of of the Mist. Now then now the ending of
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the movie. Oh talk about oh god? Uh so, oh god?
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The ending in the movie pretty much everything happens the same in the movie for
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the most part, but the very end. They get stuck on some road
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where they gets out, pull over whatever and the guy pulls out. The
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main character pulls out, the pulls out a gun, and it's it's the
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grandparents are with them, right, or is just an old lady it was,
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It wasn't older, so it was on. Let me look, let
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me look it up real quick. It's been a minute since I've seen the
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movie. But there's like an old couple or an old woman, his son
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and then him. Yeah, let's see Amanda, Billy Ali So David,
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I'm sorry, David, Billy, guy named Dan Amanda and an older and
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an elderly woman named Irene. Yeah, they're they're the ones that make it
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to David's car and they leave, they drive through. They pretty much do
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the same thing in the book drive like start driving south through New England.
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There was a great visual where they see this massive six legged creature taking a
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called I think it's called the Behemoth things the name they gave it while in
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the either in the scripts prove a concept something like that. But I do
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remember somewhere it's either Stephen King or the production crews somebody give a name,
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and I think it's like Behemoth. Say not the creature doesn't. It's not
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it's not violent. Supposedly, it just walked. It just walks around while
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these other creatures live underneath. There's some ship. There's a whole like lower
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video ship out there that talks about all that. Anyway, Yeah, anyway,
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this like so the ending and the mist was so sad because like the
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car runs out of gas and they pretty they pretty much realize like, yeah,
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it's hopeless. There's there's no way they're gonna make it out of this.
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And so David has a gun and yea, his son is like,
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oh his wide eye leg and then you see the last shot is like one
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of the last shots is that he is outside shows outside the car and he
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shoots his son and the three survivors and the other three survivors, and then
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he goes to kill himself and there are no more bullets. Yep, he
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only had four bullets left and there were five of them. And then,
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to make things even worse, as the as the gun did not fire,
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he hears the noise. What hang on, I'm sorry, dude, what
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the fuck? Lucas? What okay? Are you still there? Yeah?
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What happened? Motherfucker? Hang on? No, my brother called me and
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like, uh, I guess like my phone tried to like switch up my
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headphones, tried to switch over to my phone to take the call, and
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it just like cut out your audio. And I'm just like, dude,
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what the fuck, I'm busy. I'll call him back later. But he's
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always calling me at the worst times anyway. Yeah, so where what were
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you just saying? Like I said that he fired off the gun on himself
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and it's right now bullets and he he was just like what the fuck?
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And then he hears a noise behind him. He turns around. Now he
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either turns around, it looks in the room of your mirror, and he
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sees the US Army. So what he ended up doing was like when he
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ran out of bullets, he stepped out of the car and I was calling
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out to the monsters to come kill him, like all right, come get
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me, dinner's ready. And then he hears a noise behind him and he
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turns around and that's when he sees the US Army. Yeah, the the
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Army. It was a whole caravan and of like tanks and like transport vehicles.
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You have all these soldiers, many of them have like biohazard suits on.
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They're carrying flame throwers and you could see several of them like like incinerating
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like sacks of like what of like spider webs yep. So like basically they're
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like they're working their way through the mists and they're exterminating the creatures. And
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like when I remember when I saw this movie in theaters, I just like
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and I saw that part, I was just like, oh no, oh
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my god. No. Yeah. So the army has been going around and
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rescuing people, like they rescue the woman that left left to get her kids.
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They rescued all of the other survivors. And then he realizes I killed
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his son and the other survivors, and he drops to his knees and screams
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a blood curdling scream of despair. You're just like, oh, oh,
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oh, the dread there. I also I thought it was a little funny
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too, because you a couple of the soldiers come up to him like they're
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gonna start helping him, and that's when he starts screaming. They're like looking
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at each other and looking in the car, like they're looking at each other
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like what the fuck. And then you can see one of them look in
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the car and that's when like everything cuts out. I'm just like, oh,
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no, god, no, oh you poor you, poor motherfucker.
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Oh god. So but yeah, that's pretty much how that's the ending of
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the of a movie. And I read I read an article about the movie,
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and it turns out Stephen King actually liked the ending of this movie because,
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like he he he deliberately left the ending of the miss open ended,
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just because he knew his book, his movie was going to be his book
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was going to be adapted into a movie, so he wanted to leave like
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some space where for whoever adapts it, you know, to take some creative
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free to have the creative freedom to you know, just do whatever they want.
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Yeah, and he actually liked it. But other than that, this
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is like definitely, it was definitely a good It was a good movie and
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it was a good book. The Miss was also recently adapted into a TV
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show on Netflix. I'm pretty sure I think it got. I think it
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got canceled, as is typical of a Netflix show. Let me steve for
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it. It got. Yeah, I got one season, ten episodes and
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did cance Yeah, I Spike cancel it. So it was a it was
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a Spikes Spike show. Oh TV. Yeah, they canceled after one season.
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Yeah, yeah, Unfortunately it happens a lot. And that happens a
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lot if it's on Netflix and shit, and uh, the thing about but
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yeah, the thing about that TV show is that I didn't think it was
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particularly good. Like for Starters, they tried to give it a more modern
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setting. So yeah, it's still in a small town, but like the
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setting takes place in like three different places, like you know, and like
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completely different characters. So like survive their survivors in a mall. I believe
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there was one like Supui survivors hold up in a like police station, and
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one is out of school I think, and like the main character is like
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a father trying to get to his wife and daughter the problem is is that,
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like you know, like I just didn't really enjoy any of the character
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dynamics. Like for starters, like the daughter is getting bullied in school mainly
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because like there are rumors circulating about her mother, because like her mother apparently
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was known to be very quote unquote easy back in her day, and so
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like being a small town she has a bad reputation, even though like she
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herself as like lives a completely different life now she's a tea teacher. And
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then of course, like she gets shipped because she's the I guess she's like
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their health teacher or their sex education teacher or something, and like she deals
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with like a lot of controversy behind that because people don't want her teaching their
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kids about sex or shit like that. But she always fires back like I'm
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just teaching them what they need to know about their bodies, all right.
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They like everything they learn about sex they probably learned from porn. And she
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even pointed out to this one mother who confronted her about like her class,
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She's like, well, your son is, well, your son, you
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shouldn't be worried about your son learning about different sex positions for me, considering
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he's watched he's always watching porn in my classroom. Oh, like calls him
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out. But yeah, Like it was just like that weird small town dynamic,
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and I didn't really care for it much. When the when the Miss
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finally rolls in and people start dying, I think about the Miss is that
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it doesn't have there's no like creatures in the mist. So what the Miss
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does is that it basically it prays on your worst fears and your guilts and
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everything like that, and it makes your guilts and your fear become a reality.
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So the monsters and creatures that you see aren't actually creatures from another dimension
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but from your worst fears and nightmares. So, like there was one,
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I mean, this scene was pretty cool. There was one scene where there
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was this biker dude who had this tattoo a butterfly on his back. I
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guess he had guilts or something sent and it was somehow associated with that tattoo.
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So when he so when the Miss kills him, the wings on the
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tattoo actually come to life and tear themselves out of his back. So and
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the thing is, though, when they do that, it's like actually ripping
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from his skin, So it kills him, but like you get this scene
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of like, you know, as he's dying, the wings are spreading from
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his back, and it was pretty cool. Like if you look it up,
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like the Mist TV show, just look up like images or scenes from
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that, like you'll probably see like you'll probably see it. Oh and also
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that woman that was that confronted the mom about her teaching their kids about sex
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and shit. The thing is is that she's like she herself was known to
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be a like a terrible gossip and she spreads a lot of rumors. When
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the Mist kills her, it kills her by ripping her jaw off of her
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face. Oh god, so so like yeah, the final scene with her,
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you see her like running up to the window and like she's missing her
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jaw and the Mist like like yankster back into the into like you know,
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out of sight. And but yeah, that is like I don't I didn't
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particularly enjoy The Mist the TV show that much. I'm not surprised they canceled
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it. At the end. Will I will say this about the ending,
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it was hinted that the government was like just like in the movie the book
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and the up end the movie, it was hinted that the mist was created,
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was cause this whole thing was caused by the by the military through the
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Arrowhead project, but instead of it being an accident, it was hinted that
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it was done on purpose. Doesn't see what would happen? Yeah, and
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the military. It looked like it was almost as if the military was in
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complete control. So like the mist itself was contained within a small area and
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they were and they were monitoring it and like making sure it does its job.
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So but it ends, it ends before the show. The season ended
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before uh we can actually see, like before they actually explain or show what
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exactly goes on with the military or what they're doing. And since the show
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was unceiled, we are never going to see what they had planned for it.
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Yeah. Yeah, but yeah that was the mist. Uh you know,
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you know, you guys know me. I enjoyed my creature features and
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I thoroughly enjoyed the book in the movie, and I liked watching the The
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movie was real good. The ending still fucks people up to this day.
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Yeah. That yeah, that d the just the dread, the dread of
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it all. Mm hmm, it's a no, it's a that's oh god.
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Yeah, the survivor's guilt is real. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that
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guy. I'm pretty sure David would have gone insane. Oh I'm sure loss
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is damn on. But that well, either way, that is it for
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the mist. Now next week what Stephen King novel do I want to traumatize
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our listeners with? Next week Bye,