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253: Abusing the Movies · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 7: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Brian and we.
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  Speaker 6: Are back this week with a continuation of.
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  Speaker 2: Our discussion on changing technology and how it affects fandom.
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  Speaker 8: Now, hopefully you were listening last episode, and if not,
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  Speaker 8: go back and listen to the conversation begin in episode 252.
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  Speaker 8: There you'll hear how it all begins and what we've
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  Speaker 8: already covered on this topic. And as we get back
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  Speaker 8: into this conversation, I will remind you of who we
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  Speaker 8: have on hand. Of course, I am there holding down
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  Speaker 8: the fort. With me is Dave, who has recently been
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  Speaker 8: dubbed Posh Dave. Along with him, Marlena, Lucy, and Greg
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  Speaker 8: from our usual crew. And joining us once again are
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  Speaker 8: the guys from Tower Technobabble, Ben and Dave.
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  Speaker 9: The other Dave. The Conduit is what they call him
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  Speaker 9: on their show.
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  Speaker 8: So anyway, we are all hanging out at the theater.
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  Speaker 8: Once again, we are actually at Baxter Avenue Theaters, and
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  Speaker 8: it's interesting because this time we, you know, we cross
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  Speaker 8: over and part of what we end up talking about
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  Speaker 8: is people moving away from the theaters and how the
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  Speaker 8: old theater system died, basically, and The toll that it
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  Speaker 8: took on movie geeks. And it gets kind of serious
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  Speaker 8: here as Dave remembers how important that theater was to him.
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  Speaker 8: So we'll get into that and the general changing technology
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  Speaker 8: that we face every day.
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  Speaker 9: With that, let's get back into the conversation.
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  Speaker 10: Do you think theaters are going to die off?
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  Speaker 8: I mean, there's still a level where, I mean, you
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  Speaker 8: know more than anybody, Dave, you dealt with it for years.
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  Speaker 8: But I think there's a level for that first run of,
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  Speaker 8: opening weekend, that as long as the market still is
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  Speaker 8: set up to run that, I think that level will
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  Speaker 8: probably be around.
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  Speaker 3: You know, there's been a drop, I think, I was
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  Speaker 3: just talking about this yesterday, I think 3% of theaters
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  Speaker 3: have not been able to make the leap to digital,
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  Speaker 3: and so they're gone. That will continue.
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  Speaker 9: But at that same time.
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  Speaker 3: Even Village 8 just went digital.
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  Speaker 8: We've opened a couple of new ones in this town
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  Speaker 8: in a couple of years here.
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  Speaker 3: It's always been a cyclical thing, where now, once again,
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  Speaker 3: you've got a big theater attached to a mall. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: we grew up in the era where all malls had theaters.
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  Speaker 9: That was the thing.
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  Speaker 4: They were shit boxes.
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  Speaker 9: And then it became uncool, and they got rid of
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  Speaker 9: them all, and now it's back.
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  Speaker 3: And now it's back, but only it's on a huge scale.
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  Speaker 3: And when you're showing movies on a huge scale with
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  Speaker 3: stadium seating and in 3D... It's just like the 50s.
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  Speaker 3: They're showing everything in 3D now because it'll bring the
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  Speaker 3: younger people in.
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  Speaker 11: I think they'll just invent new gimmicks like 3D, I
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  Speaker 11: feel like, has brought more people to the theaters lately
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  Speaker 11: because you can't watch 3D at.
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  Speaker 12: Home, really.
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  Speaker 7: It's kept me away.
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  Speaker 11: I just think of, like, television or something.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I mean, they went through that.
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  Speaker 3: It's slowly going towards home market with 3D TV, but
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  Speaker 3: then they'll find something else and they'll back away from it.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's like they did that with the old movies
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  Speaker 9: when TV came out.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Audiences stopped coming to the theater as much and they
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  Speaker 8: started coming up with cheesy gimmicks.
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  Speaker 3: They had wider screens and you know everything got reduced.
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  Speaker 8: First it became air conditioned nobody had air conditioning at
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  Speaker 8: home I hate this movie but ah.
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  Speaker 10: I think there's always going to be you know the
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  Speaker 10: question of theaters people are always going to want to
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  Speaker 10: get away from home there's always going to be people
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  Speaker 10: like I'm going to go to the movies because.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to be here anymore or.
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  Speaker 10: You know whatever I think there's a certain amount of
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  Speaker 10: people that I don't drink, so I'm going to go
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  Speaker 10: to the movies. Or something like that. People need to
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  Speaker 10: get out. It's not like this, well, I don't have
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  Speaker 10: a life.
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  Speaker 5: Guess I'll go to the movies.
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  Speaker 11: People who drink and people who go to the movies.
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  Speaker 3: You haven't been here during matinee hours where you do
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  Speaker 3: have a lot of retirees who are addicts. They're movie addicts.
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  Speaker 3: And they're here every day.
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  Speaker 14: I've got to tell you, when I go see a movie,
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  Speaker 14: I'll usually go to the matinee.
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  Speaker 5: It's quiet.
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  Speaker 3: It's older folks who aren't going to make a lot
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  Speaker 3: of noise. We have people here who would come in.
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  Speaker 3: You see them every day. And they'd sit in them,
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  Speaker 3: but they're abusing. They're abusing the movies because they'd sit
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  Speaker 3: in a movie for 20 minutes before they realized, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I saw this last week. 20 minutes took that long
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  Speaker 3: to figure out.
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  Speaker 9: You're not really paying attention to any of these.
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  Speaker 7: Are you?
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  Speaker 3: So it's just like anything that you can consume, you
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  Speaker 3: can turn it into.
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  Speaker 8: I mean that's what they do at home i'm sure
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  Speaker 8: too they turn on the tv and it's there and
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  Speaker 8: i mean i do that and i specifically do that
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  Speaker 8: with tv because most tv is crap with exceptions but
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  Speaker 8: you know most of what's on especially during the day
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  Speaker 8: god i'm thankful i'm not home during the day because
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  Speaker 8: every once in a while when i am i'm like
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  Speaker 8: what is this nonsense like it is terrible so i
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  Speaker 8: if i were them i'd get out and go to
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  Speaker 8: the movies every day too or Go to the park,
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  Speaker 8: for God's sakes.
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  Speaker 9: Go outside.
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  Speaker 3: Everything's been so specifically marketed now. So you have big
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  Speaker 3: movies marketed to younger people, teens and 20s, going to
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  Speaker 3: see spectacle. With collectors, you've got the DVD market and
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  Speaker 3: the Blu-ray market and the special edition market, which keeps
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  Speaker 3: people buying the same movie over and over.
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  Speaker 9: Over and over.
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  Speaker 3: You've got television. You've got streaming. You've got all these
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  Speaker 3: different levels, and it's all very, very categorized. People are
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  Speaker 3: probably consuming movies bigger than ever, but... What we're used
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  Speaker 3: to seeing in theaters, that's changed.
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  Speaker 8: It's totally different on all of the fronts. They found
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  Speaker 8: a different way to do it on the home video market,
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  Speaker 8: especially with the streaming. There are so many.
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  Speaker 9: People that just night and day whatever is on there.
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
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  Speaker 8: Which is what I wanted to ask because you mentioned
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  Speaker 8: the Netflix streaming thing and the fact that they're going
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  Speaker 8: to original programming now. which veers more towards TV, but
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  Speaker 8: that's another one of those things that like that line
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  Speaker 8: is blurring. Like there's to the point now where it's like,
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  Speaker 8: what is a TV series when there's no TVs involved anymore?
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  Speaker 8: So it's weird that we don't, we're getting to the
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  Speaker 8: point where, especially when quality wise, when you get to
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  Speaker 8: the cable networks, where it's like the HBO and Showtime
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  Speaker 8: and stuff, they can do whatever they want. You know,
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  Speaker 8: they can show violence, they can show nudity, they can
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  Speaker 8: show language. So how is it different than a movie?
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  Speaker 8: So it's, it's hard to, it's hard to separate the
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  Speaker 8: two as they get, you know, closer to being the
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  Speaker 8: same type of thing.
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  Speaker 7: But what i what has always been i still record
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  Speaker 7: game of thrones on my tape recorder i put it
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  Speaker 7: up next to these speakers so i can listen to
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  Speaker 7: it later without seeing all the sinful.
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  Speaker 8: You know they have audio books you know you can
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  Speaker 8: just listen to that guy write his book anyway but
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  Speaker 8: no what i was going to ask and this is
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  Speaker 8: again the changing of technologies kind of stuff is what
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  Speaker 8: i wanted to address and one of them that's just
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  Speaker 8: kicked in in these last couple years is is they're
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  Speaker 8: making their original programming and they're dropping it all at once.
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  Speaker 9: So, I mean, how does that affect? What do you
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  Speaker 9: guys think of that idea?
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  Speaker 8: Is it nice to have the convenience of, oh, I
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  Speaker 8: can watch it whenever the hell I want, or are
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  Speaker 8: we killing that fact that we don't have that weekly
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  Speaker 8: thing anymore? We don't have a reason to watch on
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  Speaker 8: a weekly agenda, which I guess everybody has scheduling.
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  Speaker 9: And nobody can do that anymore.
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  Speaker 8: But on top of that, we also are killing that
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  Speaker 8: fandom factor, which is, you hang out and you talk
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  Speaker 8: about the show. Be like, oh man, did you believe
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  Speaker 8: what happened last night? What do you think is going
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  Speaker 8: to happen next week? You can't do that because you're
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  Speaker 8: at a different point in the series or they haven't
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  Speaker 8: even started watching the series or I finished it two
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  Speaker 8: weeks ago, you losers.
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  Speaker 3: You get all that stuff on Facebook about no spoilers,
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  Speaker 3: please don't tell me.
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  Speaker 8: So then you fight about it instead of everybody being
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  Speaker 8: on the same page at the same time.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know. What do you think of this dropping
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  Speaker 9: the entire series at once idea?
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  Speaker 10: It's convenient for me.
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  Speaker 3: As long as you don't talk to anyone. It's very
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  Speaker 3: convenient for me because I don't watch anything.
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  Speaker 9: It's convenient if you have no friends.
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  Speaker 5: It sounds like this.
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  Speaker 7: It's like I'm a fan of one thing only, so I'm.
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  Speaker 5: Good, I guess. You don't watch anything else?
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  Speaker 7: I kind of don't. I honestly don't because I'm so
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  Speaker 7: busy with so many things, doing podcasts and crap. It's
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  Speaker 7: like the one thing that it's like my hobby. I'm not.
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  Speaker 7: Consumer like I used to be it used to be
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  Speaker 7: I'd watch everything on TV I would try to record
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  Speaker 7: everything on TV and it's just maybe it's the age
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  Speaker 7: that I'm at I just I've kind of got there's
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  Speaker 7: these two or three things I'm really big fans of
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  Speaker 7: and everything else.
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  Speaker 14: And just not well it's changing the industry because it's
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  Speaker 14: allowing things that would never be seen or be able
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  Speaker 14: to be made before it's given them a place to
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  Speaker 14: be made Marvel just announced that they're having four new
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  Speaker 14: series on Netflix I think starting in 2015 and And
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  Speaker 14: none of these would actually be made if it wasn't
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  Speaker 14: for this sort of thing.
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  Speaker 12: No.
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  Speaker 8: So in a way, I appreciate, especially like that outlet.
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  Speaker 8: I like anywhere that it will give people a place
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  Speaker 8: to do their thing. if it will allow you to
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  Speaker 8: create whatever it is you want to create that's awesome
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  Speaker 8: it is i don't know it's weird how much stuff
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  Speaker 8: they're just dumping on the public like i don't know
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  Speaker 8: again it is does it get to the point that
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  Speaker 8: we take everything for granted that everything is so easily
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  Speaker 8: accessible and that we don't care about any of it,
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  Speaker 8: that everything just becomes that thing on in the background
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  Speaker 8: because it's always something on.
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  Speaker 3: In the background. Well, you either don't care anything about
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  Speaker 3: it or you start to care too much. You know,
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  Speaker 3: people in Breaking Bad and things like this, which are
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  Speaker 3: quality shows, but it's all they want to talk about.
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  Speaker 3: They want to talk about The Walking Dead, which I've
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  Speaker 3: seen 1.5 episodes of because I was over it in
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  Speaker 3: the 80s, folks. You know, it's just, it's okay, but
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  Speaker 3: that old fan versus new fan thing comes up where,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I just, these kids these days, you know.
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  Speaker 3: They just glom onto it.
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  Speaker 9: There's a lot of angry old men.
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  Speaker 3: It's a lot. It's a lot with me. I struggle
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  Speaker 3: with it.
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  Speaker 7: For everybody listening, whenever he said old fan, he pointed
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  Speaker 7: at me.
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  Speaker 5: Stoking my TARDIS here.
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  Speaker 9: This is going to.
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  Speaker 13: Sound like possibly the saddest thing ever, but when I
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  Speaker 13: was a kid, I lived in a country.
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  Speaker 5: Which country?
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  Speaker 13: The Woodford County country.
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  Speaker 8: You should say the country.
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  Speaker 13: And I didn't have any friends. I lived out in
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  Speaker 13: the middle of nowhere, and I didn't know anyone, and
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  Speaker 13: watching television was weirdly comforting to me because I felt
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  Speaker 13: like I was doing something simultaneously with everyone else. And
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  Speaker 13: so that's always been, and I watch TV all the
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  Speaker 13: time as a consequence of that sort of, and I
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  Speaker 13: guess it comes back to my idea with like community
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  Speaker 13: and the cinematic experience. So for me, like I haven't
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  Speaker 13: watched any of these shows because there is still this
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  Speaker 13: weird part of me that likes watching something at the
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  Speaker 13: same time, like knowing that there's somebody else.
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  Speaker 3: It's that communal shared experience.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I had a guy I mentioned the other day. I
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  Speaker 3: stayed up late, like Halloween week, until like 2 in
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  Speaker 3: the morning to watch Psychomania. And the guy's like, well,
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  Speaker 3: don't you have a DVR? And I'm like, no, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Because I like staying up until 2 in the morning
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  Speaker 3: to watch Psychomania on TCM with some of the really
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  Speaker 3: weird people who are up that late. It's shared. And
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  Speaker 3: the only thing that comes close to that is the internet.
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  Speaker 3: Do you agree it's live?
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  Speaker 9: That's what I was going to say.
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  Speaker 8: In a way, it takes away from the experience of
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  Speaker 8: what you're watching, but it is... kind of interesting this
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  Speaker 8: new aspect we have where you can be like the
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  Speaker 8: live tweeting is what people do but like that's a
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  Speaker 8: live event and everyone is experiencing it at that same
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  Speaker 8: time and they're commenting on it and they're talking about
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  Speaker 8: it that's another new level that's popped up in these
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  Speaker 8: last few years that like there's no way we could
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  Speaker 8: have conceived of that you know that not only can
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  Speaker 8: you be watching the same thing as someone else but
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  Speaker 8: be talking to somebody in you know the other side
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  Speaker 8: of the country that's watching it.
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  Speaker 5: Too to bring it back to doctor who really what
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  Speaker 5: is this Do you like Doctor Who?
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  Speaker 15: Lucy, you were talking about how you liked watching TV
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  Speaker 15: when it was on, because you felt like other people
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  Speaker 15: were watching it and it was a community.
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  Speaker 7: And now you don't get that community aspect. There are
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  Speaker 7: so many podcasts out there on Doctor Who with the
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  Speaker 7: whole premise of the podcast is it's like a first-time
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  Speaker 7: viewer watching the show. and then talking about the episode
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  Speaker 7: on the podcast. And then people will respond to that podcast,
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  Speaker 7: write in, and give their comments on it. I'm sure
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  Speaker 7: this is happening on other shows because this is the.
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  Speaker 3: Only show I watch.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: But people will take an old series, and each week
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  Speaker 7: they'll watch an episode and talk about it, and people
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  Speaker 7: will either write in or call in, and you get
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  Speaker 7: that communal experience that way. You basically create your own
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  Speaker 7: communal experience. using technology like the podcasting here.
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  Speaker 3: There was always a certain thrill that you're not in charge.
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  Speaker 3: It's spooling out there and it goes back to the
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  Speaker 3: old geek brain where it's like, this may be it.
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  Speaker 8: I think that's why we still listen to the radio.
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  Speaker 8: You don't know what's coming next. As opposed to, I've
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  Speaker 8: got that.
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  Speaker 5: If you listen to QMF, you know what's.
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  Speaker 9: Well, nobody listens to it.
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  Speaker 14: You have a 1 in 10 chance of guessing what's
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  Speaker 14: in it.
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  Speaker 8: But in general, though, it's like, don't you get more
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  Speaker 8: excited when you hear a song come on? Even if
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  Speaker 8: you own the album, you're just like, oh, man, I
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  Speaker 8: love this.
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  Speaker 9: And you'll turn it up.
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  Speaker 11: If you listen to pop radio, you've heard it 17.
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  Speaker 5: Times that day. Well, that's why you don't listen to them.
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  Speaker 11: Like, Wrecking Ball and Blurred Lines are like the only
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  Speaker 11: thing they ever play on the radio, ever.
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  Speaker 9: Don't listen to that channel.
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  Speaker 10: The live experience, though, I mean, one area... and this
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  Speaker 10: is not geek at all, but one area in the
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  Speaker 10: world that still does is with sports. Because nobody re-watches sports,
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  Speaker 10: a sporting event. Nobody DVRs it and watches it later
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  Speaker 10: because it's ruined. You know what the score is. You
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  Speaker 10: can't get away from it. And so that's a shared
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  Speaker 10: experience that, you know, the guys watch it or the
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  Speaker 10: people watch it the night before and they're all the
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  Speaker 10: next day talking about it. And it's a one time,
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  Speaker 10: it's never going to happen again. That event is, you know,
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  Speaker 10: it's never going to be the same. There are no reruns.
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  Speaker 10: And that's kind of pure to me in that at
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  Speaker 10: the very least, you know, there's a buildup to it. Hey,
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  Speaker 10: it's going to be on. It's going to be on.
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  Speaker 10: And here it is. And whether it's good or bad,
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  Speaker 10: it doesn't matter. But it's emotionally effective, especially if you
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  Speaker 10: have a stake in whatever team it is. And like
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  Speaker 10: I said, unless it's a monumental event, you're never really
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  Speaker 10: going to watch it again. And as far as money-wise,
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  Speaker 10: that's the only place that they're getting... real commercial dollars
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  Speaker 10: because you have to watch. You can't look away. And
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  Speaker 10: if you DVR it, unless you're watching it quasi-live and
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  Speaker 10: fast-forwarding through the commercials to catch up, almost all the
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  Speaker 10: time you're sitting there watching the live game.
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  Speaker 7: You know, something that blends that with scripted entertainment is wrestling.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, think about it.
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  Speaker 14: That's not real.
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  Speaker 7: There was a time where Dave and I spend a
• 15:47
  Speaker 7: year watching wrestling because, hey, why not?
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: And it's like, I like that reason. And it's like,
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: We never recorded it. We never were like, oh, that
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: one episode, we've got to watch that again.
• 15:57
  Speaker 16: Each week it was something new, and we knew it
• 15:59
  Speaker 16: was fake and scripted, but we liked watching the little
• 16:02
  Speaker 16: storylines unfold. But for some reason, unlike other shows, I
• 16:06
  Speaker 16: didn't feel a need to own every episode.
• 16:08
  Speaker 14: I mean, it's scripted, but we don't know how it
• 16:10
  Speaker 14: came out.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: It's scripted, and it's also serialized. So it's like, what's
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: going to happen this week?
• 16:14
  Speaker 10: Sports and superheroes and... With superpowers. And a soap opera.
• 16:20
  Speaker 10: It's all rolled into one. That's what the beauty of
• 16:23
  Speaker 10: wrestling is. It's every form of entertainment all together.
• 16:29
  Speaker 8: Well, I think there is like the geek aspect I
• 16:33
  Speaker 8: think will always come back around. And I think, again,
• 16:36
  Speaker 8: like the innovative little kids that we were, they find
• 16:39
  Speaker 8: new ways and new places to do it now.
• 16:41
  Speaker 9: And I still see it popping up.
• 16:43
  Speaker 8: And it's because we have that immediacy and community on
• 16:48
  Speaker 8: the internet but i will see things like again back
• 16:51
  Speaker 8: to the podcasting thing i've seen some that will actually
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: record their show in front of a webcam and then
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: people will actually tune in at a specific time to
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: watch them record the show and then an edited version
• 17:03
  Speaker 8: will come out later anyway but for some reason there
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: will be tons of people in that room watching them
• 17:07
  Speaker 8: record a podcast as they sit in front of microphones
• 17:10
  Speaker 8: like we are right now And I'm like, that is
• 17:13
  Speaker 8: a weird little community that sprung up. And it's the
• 17:15
  Speaker 8: same people every week. And they sit there in the
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: chat room and they talk. While they're recording, they're making
• 17:20
  Speaker 8: snide comments about what they're saying. Or they're talking about
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: something entirely different. But it's a weird little.
• 17:24
  Speaker 9: Community that's out there that, again, has found its place.
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: Whether it needs to or not doesn't matter. The geeks
• 17:31
  Speaker 8: always find their place.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: They start young. I mean, my daughter, she's eight. She
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: has her own iPod, which is hazardous.
• 17:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: But. She's a big toy fanatic because she's my daughter.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: And so she's into Monster High and she's into My
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Little Pony. And she's on her iPod watching shows produced
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: by other kids about going out and hunting for dolls.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: There's all these doll hunting shows. And she knows who
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: they are. This is like the Mommy and Gracie show
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: out of New Jersey. And she tunes in every day
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: to see if anybody found something cool.
• 18:02
  Speaker 9: It's a community of eight-year-olds.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: It's like a podcast. And it's like parents and their
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: kids going out hunting for these rare toys. And she'd
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: be there every day. Okay, I found it, and they haven't.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: She's really jazzed about it.
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: Is it making her want to own these toys, or
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: does she just like watching the hunt?
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: It's sort of equal measure. I mean, she's a big collector,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: and that's the one thing she's into. But she wants
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: to do her own play version of it now. She
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: likes to want to try to.
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: You know, that's interesting, the whole collector thing. Like, I
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: can't download.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: an exclusive action.
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: Figure with a brand new hat that is only going
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: to have 50 versions of.
• 18:37
  Speaker 9: Until you get that 3D printer.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and now the 3D printer is going to come
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: along and ruin all that. Well, I feel like.
• 18:45
  Speaker 11: I like to collect stuff, but, like, the fun of
• 18:48
  Speaker 11: it for me is not, like, ordering it online. It's
• 18:50
  Speaker 11: finding it places. That's what I like to do, you know.
• 18:53
  Speaker 11: It's like even, like, with vintage clothes and stuff, like,
• 18:56
  Speaker 11: I like going to, like, vintage clothes stores if I'm
• 18:59
  Speaker 11: looking for something specific, but in general, I would rather
• 19:02
  Speaker 11: just go to thrift stores and dig through stuff. That's
• 19:04
  Speaker 11: what's fun to me. It's weird to me that people
• 19:07
  Speaker 11: are collectors, but then they buy a lot of stuff offline,
• 19:11
  Speaker 11: so it just seems like.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: That's kind of the difference with her. She wants to
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: go out and look. She knows I can get it
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: on eBay, but she'd rather go every week on a
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: little circle. That's weird for people now.
• 19:24
  Speaker 10: I have that same thing.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: That first.
• 19:26
  Speaker 10: run of Transformers, the metal die-cast Transformers that came out.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 19:35
  Speaker 10: I still have dreams about once a month of going
• 19:37
  Speaker 10: to stores and seeing new ones. Because I would go
• 19:42
  Speaker 10: any chance I could to a store. I would ride
• 19:44
  Speaker 10: my bike to stores, even with my parents not knowing.
• 19:48
  Speaker 10: I didn't have the money to get them.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: I didn't.
• 19:50
  Speaker 10: To find them. I saw them. Because they were art.
• 19:58
  Speaker 10: If you go back and look at them now compared
• 20:00
  Speaker 10: to the crap that they put out, it was plastic
• 20:03
  Speaker 10: and cheap and the new stuff, but those were art.
• 20:06
  Speaker 10: metal and they looked like real cars or real planes. And,
• 20:12
  Speaker 10: you know, they brought out a run. They were toying
• 20:16
  Speaker 10: with me about five years ago. Probably more than close
• 20:20
  Speaker 10: to the 10 years now. Yeah, because it was the
• 20:23
  Speaker 10: 25th anniversary, I think. And the packaging was identical to
• 20:27
  Speaker 10: the originals. Cheap 80s, you know, look to them. But
• 20:31
  Speaker 10: the cars were the same ones. slightly different, and I
• 20:35
  Speaker 10: had those emotions. I walked into a Toys R Us
• 20:38
  Speaker 10: for other reasons, and it was like a dream. It
• 20:41
  Speaker 10: really was like a dream. And wave after wave of
• 20:44
  Speaker 10: emotions was hitting me. And it was 1984 again, and
• 20:51
  Speaker 10: I can understand that hunt, that you have to go
• 20:53
  Speaker 10: out and look. And I still, it's almost like a drug.
• 20:57
  Speaker 10: Every now and then I'm like, there's a toy store. Okay,
• 20:59
  Speaker 10: I'll stop in just in case.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: It's not going to be there.
• 21:02
  Speaker 10: I'm not going to want it. I'm going to be
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: disappointed by what I find. But it's still, that rush
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: is there.
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: That's how I felt when they filmed those 1968 episodes
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: in Africa. You know, that story about you going to
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: the toy stores and looking for it, it kind of
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: reminds me of bird watchers who, who go out into
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: the forest, and they've all got this specific one that
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: they're trying to find.
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: The pussycat swallowtail.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: I heard that there was a pussycat swallowtail on this
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: mountain last week. Maybe it'll still be here. And it
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: got the little binoculars.
• 21:37
  Speaker 14: Check that off their list?
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, take that off your list.
• 21:39
  Speaker 10: You saw an actual Megatron right.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: In the box.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: That's a very powerful experience, yeah.
• 21:44
  Speaker 11: That's, like, one of my most common, like, recurring happy dreams. Like,
• 21:48
  Speaker 11: my happiest dream that I ever have is that I, like,
• 21:50
  Speaker 11: walk into a store or I'm at a place and
• 21:52
  Speaker 11: there's a whole bunch of something that I really want
• 21:55
  Speaker 11: and it's really cheap.
• 21:56
  Speaker 9: It's called shoes. You can say it.
• 21:59
  Speaker 11: Sometimes it's shoes. Once in high school, it was a
• 22:01
  Speaker 11: bunch of Cradle of Filth CDs for, like, a dollar each.
• 22:04
  Speaker 9: I don't know if I tell people that, but all right.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: How do you know?
• 22:08
  Speaker 11: Yep. Yeah, it's different things, but, I mean, it's just, like,
• 22:12
  Speaker 11: whatever I'm really into at the time. I'm like, I
• 22:14
  Speaker 11: walk into a store, like a yard sale, and there's
• 22:16
  Speaker 11: a whole bunch.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Of it, and it's like, oh, 50 cents!
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah! It just recently happened to me in real life.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: We were doing the Halloween episode, and I talked about
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: my Halloween costume.
• 22:25
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: The skeleton playing the clarinet. That was crazy. I guess
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: it was the day before Halloween. I just randomly was
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: on eBay looking for vintage Halloween, and there he was.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I hadn't seen it since I was four. How much
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: was it?
• 22:38
  Speaker 11: Boom.
• 22:38
  Speaker 13: 30 bucks.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Did you get it?
• 22:40
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: That's not bad for someone that old.
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: I had it.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: It was like this little... piece fell into place in
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: my heart.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: It's like, I have it.
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: You can buy happiness. I knew it.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: You can buy it.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: It's like, we're jumping.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: And there's not a lot left up there to go in.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: It's like, this is a major piece.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: We're all talking about how we like to have stuff
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: in our hands.
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: And I've got a couple of movies that I bought
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: over iTunes.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: And I never think about them. I don't think.
• 23:07
  Speaker 10: It's weird.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I saw it. Big deal.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Or.
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: It's like having the actual DVD in my hand. It's like,
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: I feel like, okay, I found this.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I've got it.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: But the digital stuff.
• 23:18
  Speaker 10: That I have, it feels like, yeah, I saw it.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 23:23
  Speaker 9: Again, I think that's a geek thing.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: It's a generational thing. I'm used to having a solid object.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Everything else is ephemeral.
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: You'll get to that where the entire generation that's growing
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: up with your daughter, she probably won't because she's your daughter,
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: but like everyone else.
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: probably won't care. They'll be like, I've got a whole
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: hard drive of that stuff at home. What are you
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: talking about? Why would I need to go buy anything?
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: I think part of it is that generational thing, but
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: I think even people now, I think it's a geek
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: thing now. Those of us that were hardcore about it
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: before are still going to be hardcore about it.
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: We still love the physical.
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: Aspect of having this thing and sitting it on a
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: shelf and having dust collect on it.
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: That's what we do.
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: But I think there's a lot of quote-unquote normal people
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: that aren't like us that are just like, I just
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: want to be able to watch it.
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: Or I don't.
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: I could care less about a lot of this stuff.
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: I'll pick and choose what I want. It's just a very,
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: they just don't care. It's a very lackluster attachment to entertainment,
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: which is different than what we have.
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: Which is average.
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's what most people, that's why I said, they're
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: the normal people because that's the way most people consume things.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: It's just.
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: consumption and they're done and they move on and we
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: don't we're geeks and we attach ourselves to it and
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: we latch on to some three-dimensional version of it and
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: we hold it in our closet late at night.
• 24:41
  Speaker 13: But then that generation will be nostalgic about hard drives
• 24:44
  Speaker 13: and they'll be like well i would much rather watch
• 24:45
  Speaker 13: this on a computer than have it immediately implanted into
• 24:48
  Speaker 13: my brain that's.
• 24:49
  Speaker 17: True that's true you know we we on our last
• 24:54
  Speaker 17: show we were wondering if You know, the whole hipster
• 24:56
  Speaker 17: thing about how, oh, you need to hear music on
• 24:58
  Speaker 17: a vinyl album.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: It's so much better, so much warmer. Are there movie.
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: hipsters who are like, oh, it looks so much better
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: on video.
• 25:07
  Speaker 13: There are two documentaries that are circulating right now that
• 25:10
  Speaker 13: are about that very phenomenon. One is called Adjust Your Tracking,
• 25:13
  Speaker 13: The Untold Story of the VHS Collector, and I actually
• 25:16
  Speaker 13: don't know the name of the other one.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: That's the only one I know about.
• 25:18
  Speaker 14: I would have lost that bet.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: We were totally making fun of that. This thing, oh,
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: no one thinks that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: It's the same romance. There's a romance to put on
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: a record. There's a mechanical romance to it where you're interactive,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: and it's the same with VHS because there's little motors,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: and stuff is getting physically pulled in there. It's not like... digital.
• 25:38
  Speaker 13: And they know that's not superior from an aesthetics.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Standpoint, but they love it.
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: So they're not trying to make the case that, oh,
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: it's the sound, it's so much warmer, blah, blah, blah.
• 25:49
  Speaker 13: There are actually a couple people in the documentary who maintain,
• 25:53
  Speaker 13: even though they know it's not true, that they hold
• 25:55
  Speaker 13: up better than other formats.
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: I don't know if they hold up, but I bet
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: there's somebody that thinks that they look better for that. Again,
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: when you're watching a bad 80s action movie, there's probably
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: a different look you're going to get from a bad
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: VHS from the 80s than the digital perfect version now.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: They're going to create a retro market for VHS.
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: There is, actually.
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: If you go to the festivals and stuff, there is,
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: not new stuff, but there is entire, I've seen one
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: or two that are entire booths that.
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: All they have are VHS tapes. all of them. And
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: I'm like, there's a lot. And they're not cheap either.
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: It is a collector's market.
• 26:35
  Speaker 13: But what's really interesting, in the movie, they talk about
• 26:37
  Speaker 13: it a lot, and I won't go into the movie entirely.
• 26:39
  Speaker 13: I do suggest that everybody sees it.
• 26:41
  Speaker 14: Is it on Netflix?
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: I don't think it is.
• 26:46
  Speaker 13: We're in fact releasing a DVD. It's only available on DVD.
• 26:50
  Speaker 13: But what they did was they.
• 26:53
  Speaker 13: Filmed it digitally, and then they transferred it to VHS,
• 26:59
  Speaker 13: and then they re-transferred it digitally.
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: So, yeah.
• 27:02
  Speaker 13: So it's actually kind of amazing.
• 27:05
  Speaker 14: They strained it through a sock.
• 27:07
  Speaker 13: It's interesting because they have... Basically, these guys made this
• 27:10
  Speaker 13: documentary because they themselves were collectors, and they had met
• 27:13
  Speaker 13: this whole community of collectors on eBay, because I guess
• 27:16
  Speaker 13: it's still a somewhat small community, so when you're bidding
• 27:19
  Speaker 13: against other people, you start being like, well... VHS 1976,
• 27:23
  Speaker 13: that son of a bitch stole, like, whatever that.
• 27:28
  Speaker 9: I hate Exterminator 331. That guy's awesome.
• 27:32
  Speaker 13: So there's rivalries that have sort of started coming up
• 27:35
  Speaker 13: in this world, but I guess there was a movie
• 27:38
  Speaker 13: called Tales from the Quad Ed. I don't know if
• 27:41
  Speaker 13: anybody is familiar with this film. It's a big part
• 27:44
  Speaker 13: of the documentary. Apparently it is almost unwatchable. It doesn't
• 27:47
  Speaker 13: make any sense. There's nothing good about it except for
• 27:50
  Speaker 13: the fact that like under a hundred copies were made.
• 27:54
  Speaker 13: And so just by benefit of that fact, somebody decided like,
• 27:58
  Speaker 13: I know I'm going to bid $ 666 for this movie.
• 28:03
  Speaker 13: And then other people start being like, well, wait a minute,
• 28:05
  Speaker 13: why is it getting higher and higher? And I've only
• 28:07
  Speaker 13: seen one copy of that ever. And so it became
• 28:09
  Speaker 13: this thing where the movie wound up going for like
• 28:12
  Speaker 13: 650 bucks. And so it's now the most coveted title.
• 28:16
  Speaker 13: But then I guess somebody just got the rights and
• 28:18
  Speaker 13: is redistributing them only in limited quantity.
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: There's always a weird sub-market of a sub-market.
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: Do we want to plug the other one?
• 28:28
  Speaker 14: According to the IMDB, the other one is called Rewind This.
• 28:31
  Speaker 9: Okay, I have heard that one.
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: But no, I was just thinking, somebody was just talking
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: earlier about how they were so excited because it was
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: on the internet again.
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: That's where you meet anybody, you know.
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: But they were talking about how they had found the
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: most rare original 8-bit NES tape. And it wasn't just
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: a game that they didn't make very many of. Well, no,
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: there's a bunch of them that are rare, but this
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: was one that was one of the.
• 29:00
  Speaker 9: The Power Pad games. It's the track and field. Yeah,
• 29:04
  Speaker 9: track and field.
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: But there was one that they changed the label. The
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: game is exactly the same. They changed the label on
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: it that it's a different color. Or one of them
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: had a different color, like plastic or something. But I'm like,
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: the game is the same. But there was a subsection
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: of people that were fighting over that.
• 29:22
  Speaker 11: Well, that's like the Beatles record that had the.
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: The alternative cover.
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 29:27
  Speaker 9: There's always, again, for collectors, there's always a market like that.
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: The Boba Fett action figure that says, Revenge of the Jedi.
• 29:33
  Speaker 14: And the one that shot them. I want that now.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: That shot the backpack.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: I had that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 14: My dog chewed it up.
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: But I'm not buying it.
• 29:43
  Speaker 10: When the movie, what was that with Fred Savage?
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: The Wizard.
• 29:47
  Speaker 14: The Wizard.
• 29:48
  Speaker 10: Came out.
• 29:48
  Speaker 11: I thought you were going to say Little Monsters.
• 29:51
  Speaker 10: They had a game. They had an actual tournament where
• 29:53
  Speaker 10: kids from Nintendo Power. if you got the high score
• 29:57
  Speaker 10: in certain games or whatever, and sent in like a
• 29:59
  Speaker 10: Polaroid of it, of showing the high score, you were
• 30:03
  Speaker 10: sent a big game that was the wizard game, and
• 30:07
  Speaker 10: you had to play three levels. It was like the
• 30:10
  Speaker 10: first two levels of Mario, and I forget which, it
• 30:14
  Speaker 10: was like three games, and you had to post or
• 30:18
  Speaker 10: take a picture and send through the mail your score,
• 30:21
  Speaker 10: and you were then invited to an actual tournament that
• 30:26
  Speaker 10: they held. And there was like 10 copies of this game.
• 30:29
  Speaker 10: And that's one of the most coveted ones because you
• 30:33
  Speaker 10: had to be already good and not destroy yourself.
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: Champion of champions.
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: And meanwhile, they buried a gazillion million copies of.
• 30:42
  Speaker 9: The E.T.
• 30:43
  Speaker 10: Video game in the desert because nobody wanted it. You know,
• 30:46
  Speaker 10: I listened to that on NPR. By the time they got,
• 30:49
  Speaker 10: they were forced to get it out as fast as possible.
• 30:51
  Speaker 14: Yeah, the programmer had six weeks to do it. One
• 30:54
  Speaker 14: programmer had six weeks to do it, which was unheard of.
• 30:57
  Speaker 14: And it resulted in a really crappy game.
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: And now somewhere somebody covets that as a great game.
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: Because it's so rare.
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: Well, it's so much warmer.
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: You can just feel the bits.
• 31:11
  Speaker 11: How long before they have VCR players for sale at
• 31:18
  Speaker 11: Kohl's that are iPod compatible? Because I saw a record
• 31:20
  Speaker 11: player at Kohl's that was iPod compatible. And I was like,
• 31:23
  Speaker 11: I just got a Kohl's credit card. I'm going to
• 31:25
  Speaker 11: buy this. But I didn't.
• 31:27
  Speaker 8: They have had those like vintage radios for years that
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: you plug your iPod into.
• 31:31
  Speaker 9: So I guess, I mean, maybe they'll have a.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: It turns into a steampunk iPod.
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: You'll have a.
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: Blu-ray player that looks like a VHS tape, but only
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: now it'll be the next whatever the hell takes place
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: in Blu-ray.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: I tried to buy a DVD player.
• 31:44
  Speaker 9: They don't make those? What are you, crazy?
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and because I'm like, okay, my entire collection is DVD.
• 31:49
  Speaker 10: I'm not going to go buy a Blu-ray player.
• 31:51
  Speaker 9: Oh, you will.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: Oh, I know. And we bought one.
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: I was like, okay, we'll buy a little bit more
• 31:55
  Speaker 10: expensive one. And it is crap. Like, it's worse than
• 32:01
  Speaker 10: my first DVD player. It won't... Once it gets about
• 32:05
  Speaker 10: 45 minutes into a movie, it starts to skip itself.
• 32:07
  Speaker 10: We're talking brand new movies. And we returned it. I
• 32:12
  Speaker 10: think it might be a Sanyo. And we took it
• 32:15
  Speaker 10: back thinking, okay, this is a bad one. You know,
• 32:19
  Speaker 10: got another one fresh out of the box. Just the
• 32:21
  Speaker 10: exact same problems. It's just they... They're like forcing you.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Is it a Wi-Fi compatible machine?
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: Probably not. If it's DVD, why would you need it?
• 32:31
  Speaker 10: It does have an HDMI port, which I was happy
• 32:34
  Speaker 10: with that.
• 32:34
  Speaker 9: But that's the thing. Blu-rays are so cheap now, too.
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: You wouldn't need to. Yeah, they're backwards compatible.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.
• 32:41
  Speaker 9: But that's so much cheaper.
• 32:43
  Speaker 10: It's one of those things I'm like, why am I
• 32:44
  Speaker 10: going to go with it?
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: You probably paid more for the non-backwards compatible.
• 32:49
  Speaker 10: You say that about the children.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: My kids... you know, they'll take a.
• 32:53
  Speaker 10: DVD out of the DVD player when they, what's like, oh,
• 32:56
  Speaker 10: I can't believe I've got to get a DVD, you know,
• 32:58
  Speaker 10: when it's not on Netflix or something like that. And
• 33:01
  Speaker 10: they'll take it out and they won't put it back
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: in the thing and they might just stack it up
• 33:06
  Speaker 10: or they don't understand that it can get scratched. And,
• 33:10
  Speaker 10: you know, I say, well, you know, I don't want
• 33:12
  Speaker 10: to have to go out and buy that again or
• 33:14
  Speaker 10: I don't want to have to, This is ours. Take
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: care of it. We can just watch it on Netflix.
• 33:20
  Speaker 10: It's no big deal to them.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: If you're trying to find a player that's sturdy, just
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: buy one of those $ 30 Sonys. I use those for Wonderfest.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: They never skip, they never bump, and they're only $ 30.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: It's better to go that route than something that's a
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: little more techy because it's going to be that much
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: pickier about glitches and dirt. The cheap ones at Target
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: are fine.
• 33:42
  Speaker 13: And Target is actually selling ones that are VHS and
• 33:44
  Speaker 13: DVD that cost as much or more than a Blu-ray player.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: I bought my dad one because.
• 33:50
  Speaker 10: He wanted to easily be able to record his VHS
• 33:54
  Speaker 10: tapes onto DVD. Can you do that with that player?
• 33:59
  Speaker 9: I can't believe they're still making anything.
• 34:03
  Speaker 10: And he does it all the time because he doesn't
• 34:06
  Speaker 10: want to get rid of them.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: He doesn't want to have to go out and buy all.
• 34:08
  Speaker 14: The movies that he's got.
• 34:10
  Speaker 11: I still have a bunch of cassette tapes I need
• 34:13
  Speaker 11: to put on CD.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Well, there'll be instances where I'll assume something's on DVD,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: and then I'll find out it's not, and I got
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: rid of the tape. It's like, oh. Abel Gantz's Napoleon.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: I'm going through my Best of the Vogue thing, and
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: it's like, oh, we watched that dozens of times. It's
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: never been on DVD. I toss my tape and it's
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: not worth $ 100.
• 34:32
  Speaker 13: That's a huge part of the documentary. They talk about
• 34:35
  Speaker 13: how 60% of titles or 70% depending.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: On who you're talking to were never available on DVD.
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: This is where the downloading starts. That's where a lot
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: of people go. There's a side of that that's bad,
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: but I've said it before. I think there's a part
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: of that that I'm okay with because I think it
• 34:55
  Speaker 8: keeps titles out.
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: There that would die. Otherwise, if they're not otherwise, if
• 34:59
  Speaker 9: they're not, yeah.
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: I mean, if it's stuff that's gone out of print,
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: if it's stuff that like nobody cares about it, whatever
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: studio used to own it, like just the fact that
• 35:06
  Speaker 8: there are geeks out there passing it around, it's no
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: different than passing VHS tapes back and forth. It's just
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: a way faster, more efficient way to do it now.
• 35:13
  Speaker 8: But like, there's a level where I think if the
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: thing is dying, otherwise that keeps it around. And that
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: may be the only reason that it'll be like the,
• 35:20
  Speaker 8: the doctor who tapes, you know, it's like, Some geek somewhere.
• 35:23
  Speaker 9: Recorded that next to their video. It's the same thing.
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: Like, I bothered to download this stupid movie that nobody
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: cares about. But 35 years from now, maybe they'll be like,
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: this is a lost movie and nobody has it.
• 35:33
  Speaker 9: And you've got a hard drive with it on it.
• 35:35
  Speaker 13: And there are definitely filmmakers who encourage that with their
• 35:37
  Speaker 13: own work. Like Trent Harris with the Beaver Trilogy. I mean,
• 35:40
  Speaker 13: Sean Penn apparently is keeping that thing from being released.
• 35:42
  Speaker 13: And he's like, please, people, send it around.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: Show your friends.
• 35:45
  Speaker 14: It's out there.
• 35:46
  Speaker 9: It's great. There's a side of that that's not horrible,
• 35:48
  Speaker 9: I feel.
• 35:49
  Speaker 12: But.
• 35:50
  Speaker 9: It's abused all the time.
• 35:51
  Speaker 10: As easy as it is, as cheap as a gigabyte
• 35:54
  Speaker 10: is these days anyway, I hope that there's eventually some
• 35:59
  Speaker 10: way we could do a library of Congress where we
• 36:05
  Speaker 10: just submit stuff. It'd be easy for someone to just
• 36:08
  Speaker 10: have a supercomputer to store everything. That way, even if
• 36:13
  Speaker 10: it has hardly any value at all, it's still able
• 36:17
  Speaker 10: to go there. Like a library card, you can just
• 36:19
  Speaker 10: Give a little bit of money to it every year
• 36:21
  Speaker 10: and check out and watch a show.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: That would be the ideal way.
• 36:24
  Speaker 9: You would think that's where it's going.
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: Well, I mean, even with the digital technology you have,
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: either on your internet or the stupid cable systems all
• 36:33
  Speaker 8: have so much. There's not as much on there, but
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: you think if you give it 10 years for them
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: to improve, I would hope you could get just about anything.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: I remember old models of that from way back. Remember
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: the Facets catalog? Oh, yeah.
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: I used to get those.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Out of Chicago? which they libraryed everything on VHS. You
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: could either buy it or rent it, but it was
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: a huge catalog.
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: Rental by mail, that's crazy now to think of that.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: But they stayed in business for years, providing stuff you
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: couldn't get otherwise. Everything.
• 37:01
  Speaker 14: There's going to be a lack of things going out
• 37:03
  Speaker 14: of print from this point forward because if it's digital,
• 37:05
  Speaker 14: there's no point. If you can buy a book now,
• 37:07
  Speaker 14: if you've got it on a Kindle, it'll never go
• 37:09
  Speaker 14: out of print because you've always got that file. If
• 37:12
  Speaker 14: that file will always exist, it doesn't take up a
• 37:14
  Speaker 14: lot of room, so it's not like there has to
• 37:15
  Speaker 14: be a printing issue. To have it done. One of
• 37:18
  Speaker 14: my favorite books was out of print for years and
• 37:20
  Speaker 14: years and years. And finally they made a movie out
• 37:22
  Speaker 14: of it and they brought the book back. I got
• 37:24
  Speaker 14: it on Kindle because it's just always going to be there.
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: It is interesting that that kind of stuff, again, just
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: looking forward 10 or 20 years, I'm like, what.
• 37:35
  Speaker 9: Exactly is going to happen to all that?
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: When everything becomes accessible, when nothing is rare anymore because
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: it's all out there.
• 37:42
  Speaker 9: In the cloud, if you will.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: You know what's weird?
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: This may be an old man talking to you.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: I've lost enough.
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: I've had enough hard drives crash where I feel safer
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: having it on DVD.
• 37:54
  Speaker 14: Well, I mean, just in general, out of print. I mean,
• 37:56
  Speaker 14: it's always going to be out there because it'll be
• 37:58
  Speaker 14: on hard drives. So it's not like the Doctor Who
• 38:00
  Speaker 14: where there was one print and.
• 38:02
  Speaker 9: They burned it.
• 38:03
  Speaker 8: And now you can back up everything into the universe. So,
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: I mean, you can do that even for your own
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: stuff now. It's kind of weird just how much.
• 38:11
  Speaker 9: It's the cloud. You can do, yeah.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: It scares me. I don't trust it.
• 38:17
  Speaker 9: No, I don't trust it. That's kind of my thing, too.
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: I'd rather hoard DVD drives or something. Just hoard drives
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: in your basement and be the crazy old man in
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: your basement watching stuff on your hard drive.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: I don't need the cloud.
• 38:31
  Speaker 11: This is going to make me sound really dumb because
• 38:33
  Speaker 11: I don't know anything about the cloud technology, but I
• 38:37
  Speaker 11: think I heard something on NPR recently. about how it's, yeah,
• 38:42
  Speaker 11: it's like a cloud, but the information is actually stored
• 38:46
  Speaker 11: in a building, like in machines physically, and it's so
• 38:50
  Speaker 11: hot and very hard to cool and very expensive.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: It's going to explode.
• 38:53
  Speaker 11: So it's just like, yeah, what if that explodes? I'm
• 38:55
  Speaker 11: sure there's other places that have it, but even the
• 38:58
  Speaker 11: cloud thing could technically fail, right? In theory, at least.
• 39:02
  Speaker 9: In theory. I mean, there's always a way for things
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: to go wrong. That's how our world works.
• 39:08
  Speaker 18: Love you, baby. I ain't gonna lie.
• 39:15
  Speaker 14: Without you, woman, I just can't be satisfied.
• 39:23
  Speaker 18: Cause when things go wrong, so wrong with you. it
• 39:31
  Speaker 18: hurts me too so run yeah baby put your little
• 39:42
  Speaker 18: hands in.
• 39:43
  Speaker 14: Mine I've got something to tell you baby.
• 39:49
  Speaker 18: I know that will change your mind.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: When things go wrong, so wrong with you.
• 40:01
  Speaker 18: It hurts me too.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Now it's time for intermission, so let's all hit the grass.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: And gather round the street, stop where the gun is,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: I don't care.
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: From the imagination of Stephen King comes the story of
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: a man.
• 40:16
  Speaker 12: Yo!
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: Come on, boy, let's go.
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: Grass is waiting for you.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: With the mind of a child.
• 40:22
  Speaker 14: Yeah, Cyboman.
• 40:23
  Speaker 18: He came to see me.
• 40:24
  Speaker 19: Cyboman?
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: Comics, right?
• 40:26
  Speaker 14: Yeah, Cyboman.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: And a doctor.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: Virtual reality holds a key to the evolution of the
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: human mind.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: With a vision of the future.
• 40:34
  Speaker 14: I have a game in my house that you might
• 40:36
  Speaker 14: like to play.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: Would you like that?
• 40:38
  Speaker 12: Yeah? Okay. Okay.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: That was really bad. I have different games.
• 40:49
  Speaker 10: I even have one that could help make you smarter.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Now, Job Smith is about to enter the world of
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: virtual reality.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: Ah, it's gonna hit me!
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, Job, just relax. It's gonna be like
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: being up there with the stars, Job.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: Like going to another planet.
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: His mind is like a clean, hungry sponge.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: I just graduated to the next level, Job.
• 41:15
  Speaker 12: Ha ha!
• 41:16
  Speaker 13: You're not the one, woman.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: You've certainly changed.
• 41:19
  Speaker 11: I don't know how you did it, but I approve.
• 41:22
  Speaker 12: Absorb Latin, yes, that ain't less than two hours.
• 41:25
  Speaker 18: So brilliant.
• 41:29
  Speaker 12: So.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: A world where the normal course of.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Events can suddenly turn.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Inside out you realize dr angelo that my intelligence has
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: surpassed yours the imaginary becomes.
• 41:42
  Speaker 12: Real trying to get inside my head joe you.
• 41:45
  Speaker 10: Can't hide anything from me dr angelo in reality you
• 41:49
  Speaker 10: have no idea what he's gonna do is all.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: In your mind.
• 41:56
  Speaker 18: Stephen k no.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: The Lawnmower Man.
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: Hey guys, it's the repeater from the Tower of Technobabble,
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: and we're getting ready to do our next show.
• 42:15
  Speaker 18: I thought it might be cool for you to look
• 42:17
  Speaker 18: behind the scenes.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: And see how the magic happens.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: In fact, Conduit is getting Towerbot ready. Right now, as
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: we speak.
• 42:41
  Speaker 13: That.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Religions. Need it. Science. Got it. Sci-fi. Do you mean sci-fi?
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: Space probes. Got it.
• 42:46
  Speaker 11: Sports.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Screw that. Star Wars. Got it. Star Wars prequels.
• 42:49
  Speaker 14: Oh God, no.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Superman.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Got it.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Transformers. Got it.
• 42:51
  Speaker 14: Troll Hunter.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Got it. Twilight. That. UFOs.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: Got it.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: Urban legends.
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: Got it.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Weird tales.
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: Got it.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: Weirdos.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Got it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: Tune in at www.toweroftechnobattle.com and see what happens.
• 43:05
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• 43:08
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• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Look at that.
• 43:12
  Speaker 9: That's wood right there. That's actual wood.
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: Why would you use wood to make technology?
• 43:17
  Speaker 9: Because it's like they're steampunk. Is steampunk really wood?
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: I thought it was more of a brass thing.
• 43:24
  Speaker 8: Well, you got to work the wood in to hold
• 43:26
  Speaker 8: the brass together. These are the fancy high-end steampunk versions
• 43:30
  Speaker 8: with a mic built in, mind you. But yeah, where
• 43:34
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• 43:36
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• 43:40
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• 43:41
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• 43:46
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• 43:50
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• 43:52
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• 43:55
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• 43:57
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• 44:00
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• 44:02
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• 44:06
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• 44:09
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• 44:12
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• 44:13
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• 44:16
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• 44:19
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• 44:22
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• 44:32
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• 44:34
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• 44:34
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• 44:39
  Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying.
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: From ancient Genesis to the modern screen, the name written
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: in blood, Ego. The last of the prehistoric giants sees
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: his first girl, Noah. Hear Ego talk, the ancient language
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: of love used at the beginning of time.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Richard Keel, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
• 45:06
  Speaker 18: CD girl.
• 45:07
  Speaker 13: What's part of your problem?
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: You know, you haven't seen enough movies.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: All of life's.
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: Riddles are answered in the movies.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: And now, on with the show.
• 45:23
  Speaker 19: Daisy, Daisy, it's me, your bad turtle. One problem they're
• 45:35
  Speaker 19: going to run into is, and they're running into this
• 45:39
  Speaker 19: in different files, is that as formats change.
• 46:00
  Speaker 14: Old computers are out of date. They have to find
• 46:02
  Speaker 14: old computers that still run these programs. New computers won't
• 46:06
  Speaker 14: run them. They're too fast or they're out of technology date.
• 46:09
  Speaker 14: So there's files that nobody has anything to open them with.
• 46:13
  Speaker 14: So that's a whole thing.
• 46:15
  Speaker 11: I mean, you can't even, like, use Flash Player on
• 46:19
  Speaker 11: a tablet or, like, an iPhone or an Android phone. Like,
• 46:22
  Speaker 11: you can only use Flash on your computer, so.
• 46:25
  Speaker 9: I mean, even from, I mean, computers are such a
• 46:28
  Speaker 9: new thing. I mean, nobody had those, certainly not everyone
• 46:31
  Speaker 9: in their house like they did even 20 years ago.
• 46:34
  Speaker 9: But you look. how many times they've upgraded.
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: Somewhere there's a hard floppy disk sitting in a drawer
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: somewhere that I have something on.
• 46:41
  Speaker 9: I don't know what it is.
• 46:41
  Speaker 8: I can't look at it anymore. But I'll run across
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: them every once in a while. At one time, this
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: was important enough, I saved it. I don't know what
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: the hell it is now.
• 46:48
  Speaker 9: I can't even open it anymore.
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: There's so many manifestos on 5-inch floppies.
• 46:53
  Speaker 9: I printed all the manifestos.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: You'll see all those green letters on the screen.
• 46:58
  Speaker 14: If you had a floppy drive, you couldn't open it
• 47:00
  Speaker 14: because I've got nothing to stick a floppy drive into anymore.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: I remember when computers made squares.
• 47:05
  Speaker 11: Hey, the computers that we use at work have floppy
• 47:07
  Speaker 11: disk drives.
• 47:08
  Speaker 9: They're from 1990.
• 47:10
  Speaker 11: I think.
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: But it's so much warmer, the information.
• 47:15
  Speaker 14: That's a whole burning computer.
• 47:16
  Speaker 11: Actually, no, they're 95.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: It was introduced by Matt.
• 47:23
  Speaker 9: He's like, hey, you want to use Windows?
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: Why first generation iMac because you were going to turn
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: it into a fish tank or something?
• 47:29
  Speaker 14: Well, no, I got it for five bucks because it
• 47:30
  Speaker 14: was awesome.
• 47:31
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 47:32
  Speaker 14: But I actually do have one that somebody did turn
• 47:34
  Speaker 14: into kind of a half-assed aquarium.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: I've got an iMac in my basement. You can get
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: all the information off of it. You can have.
• 47:43
  Speaker 11: It.
• 47:43
  Speaker 9: Making our point.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 47:46
  Speaker 11: Yeah, that's the sad thing about technology. I have an old... Like,
• 47:50
  Speaker 11: I guess before iPods were really a thing, I have, like,
• 47:52
  Speaker 11: an old MP3 player with, like, tons of awesome music
• 47:54
  Speaker 11: on it, but it's broken. Like, what am I going
• 47:57
  Speaker 11: to do with it? And, like, I dropped my last
• 47:59
  Speaker 11: iPhone in the toilet. Like, I can't get that stuff
• 48:02
  Speaker 11: off of it.
• 48:02
  Speaker 9: If you have, like, a wobbly table, you just shove
• 48:05
  Speaker 9: it under the leg. You make use of them the
• 48:07
  Speaker 9: best you can.
• 48:07
  Speaker 11: Yeah, but also, here's another thing that's sad. So, I'm
• 48:11
  Speaker 11: on my friend's phone plan, and he had a phone.
• 48:15
  Speaker 11: He had an extra phone that he at first wasn't
• 48:17
  Speaker 11: going to give me because... He's like, well, it's Vivian's phone.
• 48:19
  Speaker 11: I was like, she's 11 months old, Andrew. She doesn't
• 48:22
  Speaker 11: need a cell phone. And he was like, well, maybe
• 48:26
  Speaker 11: she should have better Facebook.
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: Why?
• 48:30
  Speaker 11: He's like, there's a game on there that she really
• 48:32
  Speaker 11: likes and annoys at. But, okay, so.
• 48:36
  Speaker 9: Why does she have a cell phone?
• 48:38
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 48:39
  Speaker 11: Jesus. But anyway, so when he gave me this phone,
• 48:43
  Speaker 11: I was like, oh, cool. Well, it hasn't been that
• 48:45
  Speaker 11: long since I updated my phone on my computer, and
• 48:47
  Speaker 11: I was like, I'll just plug it in. Oh, apparently
• 48:50
  Speaker 11: there's a new version of iTunes that I can't download
• 48:52
  Speaker 11: on my Mac because it's like five years old.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:54
  Speaker 10: It's not compatible.
• 48:56
  Speaker 11: So I'm just stuck with all the same apps and
• 48:58
  Speaker 11: crap that was on his phone.
• 48:59
  Speaker 9: That's why I got rid of iTunes.
• 49:00
  Speaker 8: I don't use it anymore because their last update that
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: I had sucked and it ruined everything.
• 49:04
  Speaker 11: Well, I can't.
• 49:05
  Speaker 10: Even get it.
• 49:07
  Speaker 11: I don't have the right processing system.
• 49:09
  Speaker 9: You just need to find a really old, lame program
• 49:11
  Speaker 9: on the internet.
• 49:12
  Speaker 7: That's why I think it's so funny that they're sending
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: out messages in space to potential aliens. What if the
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: aliens don't have the right kind of players to play
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: back the message?
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: I don't have this golden phonograph needle.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're going to have to go to the hipster aliens.
• 49:26
  Speaker 12: Hey!
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: Hey, Spock, can we borrow your record player to play
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: this album?
• 49:30
  Speaker 9: Oh, God, you're playing records? Those are so two years ago.
• 49:33
  Speaker 11: You know, like, I think, and this is sort of
• 49:35
  Speaker 11: the subject, but it's interesting that we just assume that
• 49:38
  Speaker 11: other planets are far more intelligent than us. Like, what
• 49:41
  Speaker 11: if they're really, really, like, way less advanced?
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: What if they're still playing 8-tracks?
• 49:45
  Speaker 13: You're right.
• 49:46
  Speaker 14: They'll worship this thing.
• 49:47
  Speaker 9: We'll send them episodes of Home Improvement.
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: It's fine.
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: Well, that's just the basic.
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: Insecurity of humanity. It's like, surely everyone's.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: Better than us.
• 49:57
  Speaker 9: Everybody's smarter than we are.
• 49:58
  Speaker 10: The thing about radio waves, though, the radio waves that
• 50:01
  Speaker 10: they're getting, the first ones that they'll get, they'll be like, oh,
• 50:04
  Speaker 10: let's just go destroy these people. Because I know they brought, like,
• 50:08
  Speaker 10: one of the strongest broadcasts was one of the speeches
• 50:12
  Speaker 10: by Hitler or.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Something like that.
• 50:14
  Speaker 9: Oh, that was in contact.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's right. They started beaming Hitler back from the Olympics.
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: It's like, oh, that's what they got.
• 50:20
  Speaker 14: Space Hitler's coming to kill us.
• 50:22
  Speaker 13: Right.
• 50:23
  Speaker 9: Don't trust Space Hitler.
• 50:24
  Speaker 14: We're just going to have Space Hitlers coming to agree
• 50:25
  Speaker 14: with us.
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: Well, Lucy, I'm kind of curious about something. What do
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: you think would be your last straw that you'd be like,
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: that's it, I'm not going to theaters anymore?
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: What do you think would have to happen? How bad
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: would it have to get? before your life.
• 50:40
  Speaker 14: What's your breaking point?
• 50:41
  Speaker 13: There would have to be groups of vigilantes with fire machines.
• 50:45
  Speaker 9: What if Spaceman sat next to you every movie?
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: You could be the very last.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: Holdout, right?
• 50:50
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I can't imagine that scenario.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, there was a time when I felt that way.
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: Okay, so what was your last straw?
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: What was your last straw, Dave? Working in the business,
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: but also, well, like I said, the death of my
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: holy place. When the boat went down, that was it.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: That was, like I said, it was more than a
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: theater for me. It was family. I mean, I had
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: my wedding reception there. I mean, this was a.
• 51:18
  Speaker 9: Place I grew up with. It was an amazing reception.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: And unfortunately, the death of many of the friends connected
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: with that theater. Five people I know that I spent
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: most of my time with are gone, as well as
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: the space itself. So it kind of just sealed it.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: So if I could go back, sure, I'd be there
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: every night. But I can't.
• 51:38
  Speaker 11: So.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: It's in my past, unfortunately.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: I write about it a lot. Have you got a
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: home theater, a home base that you like to go to?
• 51:48
  Speaker 13: Well, the Kentucky Theater in Lexington is amazing. I mean,
• 51:50
  Speaker 13: it's the last palace theater in Lexington. And I'll do
• 51:55
  Speaker 13: a little pitch right now.
• 51:56
  Speaker 11: We're actually trying to.
• 51:57
  Speaker 13: Raise money for the theater. It needs a huge renovation.
• 52:00
  Speaker 13: So if you go to KentuckyTheater.com, you can click on
• 52:03
  Speaker 13: the Friends of the Kentucky.
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: Is it like an old one screen?
• 52:05
  Speaker 13: Yeah, well, it's actually two different theaters now. The original
• 52:08
  Speaker 13: Kentucky Theater is, I guess, gosh, just had its 90th birthday.
• 52:13
  Speaker 13: And then the next door, there's the State Theater. So
• 52:15
  Speaker 13: the State Theater used to have a completely separate entrance,
• 52:17
  Speaker 13: but now they've.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: Sort of combined the two. It's a beautiful house.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: It's a gorgeous theater.
• 52:22
  Speaker 13: It's a great old theater. And I think the thing is,
• 52:25
  Speaker 13: you know, it's been a little challenging raising money for
• 52:27
  Speaker 13: it because everybody's under the impression, well, it's the Kentucky Theater.
• 52:30
  Speaker 13: It's always been here. My grandparents saw movies here. Clearly,
• 52:32
  Speaker 13: nothing's going to ever happen to it. But The fact
• 52:35
  Speaker 13: of the matter is, I mean, downtown Lexington, there used
• 52:36
  Speaker 13: to be five palace theaters on Main Street, and this.
• 52:39
  Speaker 9: Is the last holdout.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Don't ever take that for granted. I never thought I'd
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: see the Vogue shut down, never. But business, you know,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: one man dies, and then the business collapsed utterly. And
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: it didn't have to.
• 52:51
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 52:53
  Speaker 8: I've wondered forever how that chain of events happened. Like,
• 52:57
  Speaker 8: how is that not protected by somebody? I mean, that
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: was historical, and why.
• 53:02
  Speaker 9: It's been.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Long enough, you know, to kind of tell the truth.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: I was working here already with Marty Sussman, who was
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: the man who actually turned the Vogue into a repertory
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: art house in the 70s. And for the longest time,
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: he and Henry, the owner of the property, were friends.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: And then they weren't friends anymore. But there wasn't really
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: any kind of hard competition between the two. But because
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: we were an eightplex and they were a single screen,
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: some distributors would throw stuff our way that that the
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Vogue wasn't getting. But also, the Vogue was... What had
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: happened in that last year on the screen was they
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: had a big success. The full Monty.
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: It was always on.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: Which ran for... I remember. Eight months.
• 53:47
  Speaker 12: Mm-hmm.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: Which means Fox was making a lot of money, but
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: the Vogue wasn't necessarily. It was driving away a lot
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: of the patrons.
• 53:52
  Speaker 8: But again, most people can't even imagine that.
• 53:55
  Speaker 9: They had one screen.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: They had one screen.
• 53:57
  Speaker 9: That's what was playing at that theater.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: You also had that factor working against them because they
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: were down to being the last neighborhood theater in the city.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: That was it.
• 54:06
  Speaker 9: And that's all they played.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: Despite the love for the place, despite the renovation they
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: had done in the early 90s, what it came down
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: to was money. And what it turned out was, of course...
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: the property is not owned by the theater company. The
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: property is owned by the Taylor family, Taylor Drugs, and
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: they're into the third or fourth generation who really aren't
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: interested in making money anymore. They've got it. So they
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: paid for the renovation, not Henry. Henry owned several theaters
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: and several screens around town. Things weren't great. He was
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: taking out loans that nobody knew about. So when Henry
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: up and dies, the family's hit with a bunch of notices, like,
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: you owe money here, here, here, here. I'd seen Henry's son, John,
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: here several times, and I'm like, is John trying to
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: get us to buy the Vogue, or is he trying
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: to buy us? I knew whatever it was was going
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: to be good, because I would likely be going over there.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: Turned out he was desperately trying to get us to
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: assume the debt. The debt was larger than these folks
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: were willing to assume. It wasn't really that big, but
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: they couldn't afford it at the time. This place had
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: just been built, I believe, in a year and a half.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty recent.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: The owners of the property were not willing to listen
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: to anyone. They just wanted their money. So I got
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: a call from Carl one afternoon here, and he's like,
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: you might want to come over tonight.
• 55:23
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it was immediate.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: And then there was another call saying, no, never mind.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: And then there was another call saying, yeah, you better
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: get over here. And that's how it went down. Henry
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: did not, not Henry, but John did not want the
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: employees to know. He didn't want anybody to know because
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: the landlord would show up and gut the place immediately.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: And John wanted to get the place first so he
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: could pay off the debt. Otherwise, it was his house.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: So we got in there. We got out what we could,
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: like my help projector and all that material. And we
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: stole a bunch of stuff.
• 55:52
  Speaker 8: But it was going to get thrown out or demolished
• 55:55
  Speaker 8: on top of it.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: And they took out projection sound and concession. Unceremoniously. This
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: was the day before I was going on vacation. So
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: it tore my heart out. A lot of crying going on.
• 56:08
  Speaker 11: And.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Immediately, people started popping up. It's like, well, why didn't
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: you let people know? Well, they didn't know they were
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: in financial trouble. They could have easily raised what they needed.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: Several people approached the owners repeatedly over the next few years,
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: and they were always chased off by rent. The owners
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: kept doubling and tripling the rent, saying, well, it's $ 10, 000
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: a month for a starting business. Forget it. Vogue's rent,
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: through most of its history as a rep house, was $ 2, 500
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: a month.
• 56:36
  Speaker 13: Easy.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: After the renovation, it was doubled to try to pay off.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: And then they started doing $ 7, 500, $ 10, 000. They were chasing
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: anybody away because basically they just wanted to sell the block.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: That's why it all fell down. That's why Woolworths and
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: all those stores just went to hell. That's why the
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: marquee was falling in on the vote.
• 56:56
  Speaker 9: Why there was no saving the building itself.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: And then they finally realized, well, we aren't going to
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: get the $ 3 million we want for this falling down property.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: And at that point, my heart changed because I think
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: they actually did a good job renovating the block. I'm
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: happy that it's as nice.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: As it is.
• 57:14
  Speaker 9: It's nice now, but it's just depressing.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: Well, it is, and I'm happy the marquee's there.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: And it is the most surreal experience of my life
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: to walk around the block because it's double vision, a
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: lot of ghosts. So it could have been a parking lot,
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: so at least it's still there. The bottom line was
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: just money. There was debt no one wanted to assume.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: There were people who generationally didn't want to stay in
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: the movie business, and it was a single screen. Yeah.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: And there was no way to make it anything else.
• 57:44
  Speaker 9: The business end of it made sense. I understand them.
• 57:47
  Speaker 8: But just even the historical factor, like nobody could save it.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: But there was not enough time to start any kind
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: of promotion to save the bug.
• 57:56
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: And the same thing had happened to the Uptown down
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: the street here.
• 58:00
  Speaker 9: Where they serve you a burrito now.
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: This place was supposed to be there initially. They were
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: going to build a Baxter in the shell of the uptown.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: But then the neighborhood.
• 58:08
  Speaker 20: Pretty correctly pointed out there's no freaking parking around here. Well,
• 58:11
  Speaker 20: it's bad enough at Eastern Parkway and Portstown Road. So
• 58:14
  Speaker 20: that got thrown out. And so there's no vestige there
• 58:17
  Speaker 20: except the facade. So this ended up here.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: But it can vanish very quickly. You've got to watch it.
• 58:23
  Speaker 11: There's a theater down the street from our work that
• 58:25
  Speaker 11: was La Rose, and it's like a yoga studio now.
• 58:29
  Speaker 11: But I've never had the opportunity to go inside there,
• 58:31
  Speaker 11: but I just kind of wonder, like, How much is,
• 58:34
  Speaker 11: like if it's just like a big open space or
• 58:36
  Speaker 11: what it's like?
• 58:37
  Speaker 10: You can pull up pictures of what it used to
• 58:38
  Speaker 10: look like. There's been talk that now that the walking
• 58:44
  Speaker 10: bridge is in and there's more push downtown and they
• 58:49
  Speaker 10: were going to have the river walk down there.
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: They were working on building that.
• 58:55
  Speaker 10: And I think that would have been a really big draw,
• 58:57
  Speaker 10: having some kind of entertainment downtown.
• 59:02
  Speaker 11: Yeah, but at the same time, there's not really a
• 59:03
  Speaker 11: lot of people in Jeffersonville. Like, you can't do, like,
• 59:06
  Speaker 11: a major blockbuster on a one screen theater.
• 59:10
  Speaker 9: No, but you can do specialty things.
• 59:14
  Speaker 10: I think there's a lot more nostalgia out there than
• 59:19
  Speaker 10: people think.
• 59:19
  Speaker 11: I guess so. They could show, like, Casablanca or something
• 59:24
  Speaker 11: like that.
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: There's a downtown two-screen theater in Madison, Indiana.
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: Have you guys ever.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: That was actually, you know, it's the Ohio.
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: The Ohio. Is that any good? I've never been in it,
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: but every time I walk by.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: It looks interesting. And I think it's, you know, it's
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: probably on its, looking at the end. Yeah. But, once again,
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: nice old couple to run that place forever. Got to
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: piggyback upstairs and theater downstairs.
• 59:46
  Speaker 10: He renovated it ten years ago, maybe?
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: It's a charming place.
• 59:52
  Speaker 10: It's the right kind of town that's something like that.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that town. They're up on the hill, too.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: They've got big houses up there, and Henry actually owns those.
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: But the Ohio's still there, but that's so rare. It's
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: because my wife and I love to go to Madison.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: It's the closest to Bedford Falls we've ever found around here,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 7: and we just like walking around the downtown. And they're
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 7: never playing a movie that we're interested.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: In enough to actually win. Yeah, they're forced to play
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: first-run stuff.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: It looks so neat from the outside.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: I was last in there years and years ago. They
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: showed House of Wax in 3D. We all drove up
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: to see that because it was kind of cool. It
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: was a small house so you could actually see the movie.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: But I used to make a lot of trips to
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: Lexington just to see movies at the Kentucky because they'd
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: be showing stuff back in the old days like, you know,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Multiple Maniacs by John Waters, which didn't even make the vote.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: Or Videodrome. I had to drive to Kentucky to see
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Videodrome because Universal decided Louisville was too stupid to see
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: the movie.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 9: Based on some things.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: It was a midnight show in Lexington. It was surreal.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: What year was that?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: 83.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: I just don't think there's going to be geeks in
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 7: the future the way there are now because you don't
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 7: have to search for that.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: There's no physical world stuff to do.
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  Speaker 9: I think it's just going to change.
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  Speaker 8: Again, I think it's those kids growing up with the
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  Speaker 8: internet now, and it's all going to be based through
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  Speaker 8: the internet. Or there's going to be some weird retro thing. Again,
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  Speaker 8: it will be cool to go out and do something
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  Speaker 8: at some weird little.
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  Speaker 7: I drove 200 miles to find a guy who had
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  Speaker 7: a computer with a flash player on it.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it will be something weird like that. We'll make
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  Speaker 8: a comeback maybe for that next generation. But I think,
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  Speaker 8: I don't know, I think there's an aspect of it
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  Speaker 8: that will always survive.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, just.
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  Speaker 8: based on the fandom you see now it's it's a
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  Speaker 8: different kind because they don't have to work for it
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  Speaker 8: but it's still there and i think it's still true
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  Speaker 8: to them in a sense they don't know any different
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  Speaker 8: you know they're growing up in the middle of that
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  Speaker 8: so they don't know it's the same thing as people
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  Speaker 8: that grew up you know and before television and they're
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  Speaker 8: watching us sit there watch reruns all day long and
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  Speaker 8: they're like i didn't watch that you kids are stupid
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  Speaker 8: so it's like i don't know each generation finds its
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  Speaker 8: way to be geeky and.
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  Speaker 9: Find their their fandom it's I don't know. I think
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  Speaker 9: there's always an aspect.
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  Speaker 4: That will be there.
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  Speaker 9: It's just changing massively.
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  Speaker 5: Anything else?
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  Speaker 8: I think there's so much more to get into, but,
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  Speaker 8: you know, hey, we'll just have to come back to
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  Speaker 8: it later.
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  Speaker 7: I'm so old that my phone has physical buttons on it.
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  Speaker 13: I just want to point that out.
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  Speaker 14: He just upgraded from the dial.
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  Speaker 18: Dave's has an antenna on it.
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  Speaker 9: It's a flip phone, yo.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't have a.
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  Speaker 11: Cell phone until.
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  Speaker 3: My daughter was born.
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  Speaker 9: Until you got your daughter's hand-me-down.
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  Speaker 3: You'll notice it's also dead because it won't hold a charge.
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  Speaker 9: Retro technology.
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  Speaker 5: This is hilarious.
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  Speaker 11: Actually, I used someone's phone like a month ago. That
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  Speaker 11: was just like that exact phone.
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  Speaker 14: It was crazy.
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  Speaker 3: You know Rocco. Rocco didn't even have a cell phone
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  Speaker 3: until three weeks ago. There's still holdouts.
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  Speaker 4: That's great.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: Finally had to get one.
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  Speaker 11: For a long time, I just had a notepad on
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  Speaker 11: my door.
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  Speaker 14: It's true.
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  Speaker 11: People had to write me notes.
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  Speaker 9: I remember that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to be connected.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 9: I stopped by. See you later.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'm still not on Facebook.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 9: I'd give you hell for it. Not because I like Facebook,
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  Speaker 9: just because it's easy to get a hold of people.
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  Speaker 5: That's why we can never get our Bigfoot thing going.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to listen to you otherwise.
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  Speaker 7: That is the only way that you communicate is on Facebook,
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  Speaker 7: and I'm not on Facebook.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty much.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: We try telephoning, Pony Express, writing notes on your door.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: Facebook.
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  Speaker 10: What you should do is you should get somebody that
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 10: can be the medium, someone that does email and Facebook.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 14: What such mythical creature exists?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 9: Isn't it called your wife? She has a clue. She's
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 9: always on Facebook.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, he's always on Facebook.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 14: The universe would implode on itself if you were on Facebook, Ben.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 13: I know, I know.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 10: I'm going to friend your wife and say, this is
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 10: what Ben should be watching. This is what Ben.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: I could show Ben this now.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 9: It'll just be a hundred messages of, hey, could you
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 9: tell Ben.
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  Speaker 5: Now, as a joke, I got on the MySpace. Oh, God.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 9: JT is, damn it, and he's bringing it back.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 14: We had a whole episode of trying to figure out MySpace.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 14: It was three actually fairly tech-savvy people were trying to
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 14: figure out MySpace.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 10: It was.
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  Speaker 9: Well, did you want new MySpace or old MySpace? Exactly.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 7: We were on new MySpace.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 9: I was on the old MySpace when I checked in.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: They were all logging on to classic MySpace, and it
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: was just like, oh.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 14: There's a new and a classic MySpace.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: That's a problem.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 11: I don't really know how to work new MySpace.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: I tried. I mean, that's the one thing.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 7: It's just little interconnected circles.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 8: It's just big ads for music. I mean, not that
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 8: MySpace wasn't always kind of about music, but.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like.
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  Speaker 11: You know, the point where your parents and your grandparents
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 11: are on there and they're your friends, that's when it's like, no.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 9: Well, that's why Facebook's not cool.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 7: What is the cool thing now that the kids are
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 7: on there?
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 8: There isn't one because it's Facebook. And Facebook isn't cool
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 8: because you're friends with your mom.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 9: It's not cool.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 7: I hope it goes to notepads on your door.
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  Speaker 19: I know.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 9: I want it to go back.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: To old school.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 10: You have to, like, telegram.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 11: You have to telegram people.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 18: I saw a picture.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: Morse code.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 11: I saw a picture. This was brilliant, but it was
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 11: like a hipster guy at a park with a typewriter,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 11: like an old-fashioned typewriter.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 9: I always take mine to the coffee shop to work
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 9: on my screenplay.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 14: Everybody hates you.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 11: When you take a typewriter to the park.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 9: You're not a douche at all.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 11: I just like the way the cue is set.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 9: It's just got a better feel, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: It's warmer.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 14: It drops at you every now and then like it should.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 7: Nothing like printing out your book report on a dot
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: matrix printer to give you a sense of accomplishment.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 14: You know, ripping off the sides where the little holes are.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 10: Speaking of, we were watching Marley and Me with the
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 10: kids the other day.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 19: Oh, God.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 10: Oh, Jesus.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: Good idea.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: I know two people that I know you love.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 14: I'm so glad I didn't watch that movie in public.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: It was... My daughter loves dogs.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 9: You are sadistic.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 14: You're an old yeller.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 10: She's not like cartoon loves dogs. She very realistically understands
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 10: that things die. She's always been like... Like this puppy.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 10: My son, he can watch a documentary about turtles and
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 10: he'll cry if one of the babies die. Like her,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 10: she's like, That's what's supposed to happen. Like, she's the
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 10: very practical, always has been. She cheers for the lion,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 10: not the gazelle. She understands that this has to happen.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: A very practical person.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 13: Maybe don't see the counselor.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 13: He'll see your daughter differently.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 10: Well, she, you know, so we watched the movie. But
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 10: the reason I was getting at it, because we started
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 10: looking at each other over lunch. Like, look at those computers.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 7: Look at that.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: Look at that.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 10: And it was... It was set, like, 94, 95. And, like,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 10: his boss brings up, like, his copy before they put it.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 10: He's a newspaper column writer.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: And it does.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 10: It has the little dots down the side of the paper.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 10: I'm like, they went to good detail on this movie.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 10: I was pretty surprised. And I started noticing the cars
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 10: were all, as they went through the movie, the cars
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 10: also evolved with the movie. They did a pretty good
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 10: job with it.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 14: The movie Argo? um not giving anything away but at
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 14: the end uh there's a kid's bedroom and this kid
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 14: is like nine in 1980 which was about my age
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 14: the show the credit show over the toys on his
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 14: uh on his bookshelf they were all correct down to
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 14: a 2xl a little learning tape it was a eight
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 14: track tape player that was shaped like a robot i
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 14: had i remember those that's great it's like all the
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 14: it was just like a wave of nostalgia and it
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 14: wasn't a nostalgic movie particularly but just this last 30
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 14: seconds of this movie was like a brain trip.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 9: I'm nostalgic for Terrorism it was so great in the.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 13: 70s yeah as certain people in this room know I
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 13: hate Donnie Darko but the one thing I love about
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 13: Donnie Darko is that Maggie Gyllenhaal has my Laura Ashley
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 13: sheets from 1990.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 8: Or whatever we still need to do that episode we
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 8: gotta put that together yeah just for the hate fest
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 8: that will happen alright do we feel we've taken care
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 8: of this topic for now.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: I could talk about Dr. Who some more if you want.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 9: To get back to Dr.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 14: Seuss.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 9: We should do a Dr.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: Seuss episode.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 9: Alright, I think that should round it out. Otherwise, that
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 9: about does it. We will return next week. Same geek time,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 9: same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 18: If I could never see you.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: If I could never hold you If I could never
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: touch your face.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 12: I feel your warm embrace I still remember talking I
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 12: still remember laughing I still remember loving a lot Just
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 12: touching you Babe, I've not forgotten Cause everything's bringing it back.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: You know it's just bringing it back A familiar place
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: or a familiar face just brings it all back. No,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: we're just bringing it back. Good songs bringing it back.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: And even after so much time, everything's.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 18: Bringing it back. Thinking in my solitude.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Wondering about your attitude.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 18: Thinking maybe that your.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 12: Love has died.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: There it is, I can see it in your eyes.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: And your look of sweet surrender.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: With a touch of too much sadness.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 12: Of the hurt you sow, you know your sorrow shows.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: You just can't stay.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 18: But you know that you can't let.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Go Everything's bringing it back You know it's just bringing
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: it back A familiar place or a familiar face Just
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: brings it.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 8: All back.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Everything's bringing it back Good songs bringing it back And
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: even after so much time, you know Everything's bringing it back.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 18: And everything's bringing.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: It back Cause the song's bringing it back And even
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: after so much time, you know Everything's bringing.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 18: It back.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Bringing it back Bringing it back.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: Have you taken it out to smell it? That's all you, man.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 9: I don't want to smell your Bigfoot hair. Seems like
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 9: crossing a line to me.
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