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The Pelicot Rape Case： A Town on Trial - True Crime Documentary · The Evolution of Evil - True Crime Stories

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Speaker 1: So many times I said to myself, how lucky I
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Speaker 1: am to have you at my side, a kind and
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Speaker 1: considerate man who I trusted entirely. How can the perfect
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Speaker 1: man have got to this? How could you have betrayed
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Speaker 1: me like this? How could you have brought these strangers
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Speaker 1: into my bedroom.
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Speaker 2: We're going to take you to France next and I
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Speaker 2: should warn you this is a really distressing story. A
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Speaker 2: seventy one year old has admitted drugging and raping his
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Speaker 2: wife over a period of ten years. He also invited
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Speaker 2: other men to do the same.
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Speaker 3: This case has captured the imagination of the entire world.
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Speaker 3: It's unlike anything we've ever seen before.
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Speaker 4: Many questioning now how such dreadful sexual vites could take
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Speaker 4: place on such a big, big scale.
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Speaker 5: He was able to manipulte everyone around him for years
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Speaker 5: without them having any idea of what was going on.
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Speaker 3: There are around seventy two different men, but they can't
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Speaker 3: identify all of them.
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Speaker 6: Who are these men?
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Speaker 7: The majority of the accused, they tiell deny responsibility him apart.
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Speaker 8: I won't take ship a police was.
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Speaker 9: The rest of the courtroom fell completely silent as Giselle
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Speaker 9: Pelico said she wanted to address her ex husband directly.
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Speaker 10: H I've covered many court cases of rape. You know,
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Speaker 10: normally there's one accused, there's one victim. There's almost no
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Speaker 10: one in the court. The courtroom is packed. There's so
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Speaker 10: much that's so unusual about this trial. Your journalists in
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Speaker 10: the back, and then lawyers and lawyers and accused and
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Speaker 10: accused accused of all around you. That's something I've never
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Speaker 10: seen before. I've never been in a courtroom where you
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Speaker 10: have the accused sitting all around you. It's particular and
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Speaker 10: it's something that's this sensitive.
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Speaker 11: In September, the trial began in the south of France
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Speaker 11: that was shocked the world. At the center of it
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Speaker 11: is seventy two year old Giselle Pelico. Her husband Dominique,
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Speaker 11: has admitted drugging and raping her for almost a decade.
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Speaker 11: Alongside him on trial and another fifty men, almost all
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Speaker 11: accused of being recruited by Dominique and filmed having sex
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Speaker 11: with an unconscious gazelle.
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Speaker 3: Some of them have admitted to rape and pleaded guilty.
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Speaker 6: Others have said that they were duped. They've said that.
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Speaker 3: They were manipulated by Dominique Pelico into believing this was
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Speaker 3: part of a sex game. Some of them have literally
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Speaker 3: said I didn't leave my house that day with the
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Speaker 3: intention of raping a woman, and therefore I'm not a rapist.
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Speaker 11: Despite the video evidence against them. The level of denial
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Speaker 11: has been aided by the current French law around rape,
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Speaker 11: which has no mention of the word consent.
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Speaker 10: Many of them have hung their defense and their arguments
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Speaker 10: are that they never went there intending to rape her,
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Speaker 10: They went there for for a thrisom. And time and
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Speaker 10: time again, it's been interesting that the main judges asked
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Speaker 10: each of these defendants, you know, did you talk to her?
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Speaker 10: Did you at any point get consent from her? And
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Speaker 10: time and time again they have all said, no, I
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Speaker 10: did not talk to her.
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Speaker 12: No, I never got consent from her.
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Speaker 3: But I think also the long lasting effect of this
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Speaker 3: will be conversations in France and across the world.
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Speaker 6: Really saying how did we get here?
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Speaker 3: People really started to question how ingrained this misogyny was
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Speaker 3: in French culture.
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Speaker 11: The world has what done as in a matter of weeks,
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Speaker 11: Giselle Pelico has become an iconic figure. Her stand has
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Speaker 11: highlighted issues of shame, consent and sexual violence.
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Speaker 1: They tell me, I am brave I say it's not bravery,
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Speaker 1: its will and determination to change society.
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Speaker 3: You have to remember when you look at images of
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Speaker 3: what's happening in the courtroom and outside, that every single
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Speaker 3: day Gizelle Pelico is walking past the men who are
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Speaker 3: accused of raping her. They have their hoods up, they
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Speaker 3: wear masks, they wear balaclavas, they cover their faces as
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Speaker 3: much as they can to hide their identities, and then
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Speaker 3: you have this woman striding past them, entering the court
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Speaker 3: to applause from the public gallery, and every day she
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Speaker 3: has to find the strength to face them.
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Speaker 11: People across the world have shown their support for Gizelle Pelico,
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Speaker 11: from messages scrawled on walls near the courthouse to mass
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Speaker 11: protests of thousands across numerous cities.
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Speaker 10: This is a story about domestic abuse writ large with rape,
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Speaker 10: and then you have strangers involved. So I think the
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Speaker 10: horror of that, the relatability of Giselle Pelico, and then
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Speaker 10: of course her I think very brave and very rare
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Speaker 10: decision to make the court case public. And because she
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Speaker 10: did that, I think that is why this is now
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Speaker 10: a global story.
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Speaker 11: While the story might have become global, no place has
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Speaker 11: been as shaken as Mazan, situated twenty one miles northeast
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Speaker 11: of Avignon. It's a small medieval village with a population
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Speaker 11: of just over six thousand. It was here the Pelicos lived,
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Speaker 11: and it was here that Giselle suffered years of abuse.
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Speaker 11: Locals have seen the story labeled on French news as
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Speaker 11: the Affair Mazin, the name of their home has become
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Speaker 11: inextricably linked to the trial and splashed across the headlines.
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Speaker 14: Such as.
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Speaker 9: And become into meteorsco one shots.
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Speaker 11: One local is Marion, who runs a center for victims
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Speaker 11: of sexual.
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Speaker 15: Violence Tranquille vu de media denier.
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Speaker 5: Comin.
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Speaker 11: There's frustration that the whole village has been tarnished, with
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Speaker 11: only three defendants, including Dominique Pelico, being from Mazan. Most
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Speaker 11: of the suspects lived within a forty mile radius, but
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Speaker 11: there is also tension and suspicion. While the police have
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Speaker 11: identified fifty of the men filmed by Dominique Pelico, another
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Speaker 11: twenty two suspects remain at large.
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Speaker 5: Patri you know there come you're six six.
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Speaker 11: Really, regardless of where these crimes took place, so many
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Speaker 11: are wondering how they could have happened in the first place.
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Speaker 3: The thing that's so scary about this is that it
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Speaker 3: actually all came out effectively by chance. The moment this
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Speaker 3: all starts to unravel for Dominique Pelico is when he's
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Speaker 3: caught by a security guard upskirting a woman in a
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Speaker 3: supermarket and carpentrass.
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Speaker 6: The actual video that.
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Speaker 3: Dominique took of him upskirting this woman in a supermarket emerges,
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Speaker 3: and what we see is his face wearing a COVID
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Speaker 3: mask and his camera sort of just subtly slip towards
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Speaker 3: her skirt. He's then confronted by a security guard. When
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Speaker 3: he's caught, it's it's the careless mistake of someone who
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Speaker 3: has been meticulous in keeping secret his perversion. It's almost
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Speaker 3: like he's had this irrepressible desire to upskirt this woman.
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Speaker 3: That's the thing that is so terrifying about this case
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Speaker 3: is that we know there are so many instant says
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Speaker 3: of sort of minor sexual crimes like upskirting that aren't
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Speaker 3: investigated properly, and it was only because the police took
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Speaker 3: this action that they found out the wider scale of
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Speaker 3: what was going on.
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Speaker 11: When speaking to police, Dominique Pelico claimed he had been
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Speaker 11: overcome by urges as his wife had been away from
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Speaker 11: home for a month. He said, this is out of character.
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Speaker 5: Dominique Pelicot sits her down and breaks down, starts crying
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Speaker 5: and tell her she said, I've done a big mistake.
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Speaker 5: And he tells her, I've done something really stupid. I've
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Speaker 5: been caught taking videos of women's crotch under their skirts
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Speaker 5: oubskirting and she pauses a moment. If she thinks about it,
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Speaker 5: forty plus years together, she knows she can forgive him,
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Speaker 5: but she says, you're going to have to apologize to
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Speaker 5: this woman, and if you do that again, I'm out.
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Speaker 5: I'm leaving you. That's it, And he apologizes. He says
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Speaker 5: it will never happen again.
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Speaker 3: At this moment, little does she know the scale of
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Speaker 3: abuse that he's perpetrated over the last ten years.
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Speaker 1: In fifty years of life together, he had never made
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Speaker 1: any obscene gestures. I tell him I will forgive you
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Speaker 1: this time, but they won't be a next time.
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Speaker 8: Confus want.
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Speaker 11: In September twenty twenty, Dominique Pelico is stopped by a
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Speaker 11: security guard for upskirting in a supermarket. Inspired by legislation
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Speaker 11: introduced in the UK, it's an act that was made
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Speaker 11: illegal in France in twenty eighteen.
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Speaker 5: The security agent plays like a very important role in
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Speaker 5: this story because if you hadn't insisted that the woman
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Speaker 5: who was being filmed without her knowing press charges and
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Speaker 5: go to the police station, she might have never done it.
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Speaker 5: She might have thought, Okay, this guy's a weirdo. But whatever,
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Speaker 5: I'm just going to go home and it's going to
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Speaker 5: be fine, and I'm going to forget about this incident
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Speaker 5: and moving on.
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Speaker 12: What's the love.
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Speaker 14: Unto?
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Speaker 5: But a video was leaked of that day in the
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Speaker 5: French media and you can clearly hear the security agent saying, madam,
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Speaker 5: you really need to press charges. Go to the police station.
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Speaker 5: This is the fourth time he's doing it today. You're
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Speaker 5: the fourth woman that this has happened to. You have
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Speaker 5: to press charge in yes, do it, and she did
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Speaker 5: it and that's what allowed, you know, the investigation of
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Speaker 5: the police investigation.
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Speaker 11: Images in the French media show how security cameras caught
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Speaker 11: Dominique using a bag with a hidden device.
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Speaker 3: So at that moment, he's been arrested for you know,
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Speaker 3: what some people would say is quite a minor sexual crime.
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Speaker 3: It's a drop in the ocean compared to what's been
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Speaker 3: happening over the last ten years. Later, police find in
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Speaker 3: the bag that he had with him a camera, a camcorder,
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Speaker 3: and some condoms.
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Speaker 5: Dominique Pelico he had two phones that were in his bag.
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Speaker 5: The police investigator got the phones and on one phone
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Speaker 5: something called his Attention Is. There was only one app
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Speaker 5: on the iPhone, it was Escape, and so he opens
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Speaker 5: Escape and he started seeing all these images, photos of
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Speaker 5: women lying unconscious on their beds and they can met
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Speaker 5: around them, and he decided to call the superior and
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Speaker 5: to basically launch an investigation to try and find out
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Speaker 5: what was happening.
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Speaker 11: All of Dominique's digital devices from his home were seized
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Speaker 11: on a USB stick. Police discover a folder titled Abuse.
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Speaker 11: Inside it, they found meticulously labeled folders containing more than
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Speaker 11: twenty thousand videos and photos. They appeared to show different
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Speaker 11: men having sex with one woman.
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Speaker 3: At the time, police don't know what's going on. Necessarily,
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Speaker 3: they don't really know what they're seeing. They noticed that
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Speaker 3: it's the same woman in every video, and then later
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Speaker 3: they realized that that is in fact Pellicoe's wife.
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Speaker 11: With so much evidence, the police faced a long investigation.
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Speaker 11: Who were these men? Was any of this consensual? Could
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Speaker 11: they really be watching one woman being subjected to years
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Speaker 11: of abuse? They began to dig into the lives of
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Speaker 11: Dominique and Giselle Pelico.
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Speaker 12: They want the very private life, quiet life.
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Speaker 10: Had three children, raised them in the Paris region, has
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Speaker 10: seven grandchildren, then retired and moved down to the south
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Speaker 10: of France. It's a pretty typical family. Nothing all that
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Speaker 10: interesting or unknowable about them. I think that makes it
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Speaker 10: super relatable.
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Speaker 6: For all intents and purposes. They had a happy retirement.
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Speaker 3: We know that they had what she described as quite
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Speaker 3: a happy and fulfilling marriage.
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Speaker 1: He made a lot of meals. I saw that as
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Speaker 1: him being attentive. One night he came to collect me
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Speaker 1: at Avignon station, after ten days with my grandchildren. He
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Speaker 1: had already prepared the meal. Two plates were already in
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Speaker 1: the oven. I put olive oil on my potatoes and
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Speaker 1: he put butter, so it was easy to see which
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Speaker 1: plate was his. We would have a glass of white
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Speaker 1: wine together often when there was a football match on TV.
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Speaker 1: I let him watch it alone. He brought me my
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Speaker 1: eyes creamed to bed, my favorite flavor, raspberry.
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Speaker 11: I told him how lucky I am.
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Speaker 12: You're a love.
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Speaker 11: You really take care of me. Despite their seemingly idyllic life,
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Speaker 11: there were signs that something might be wrong.
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Speaker 3: As early as twenty thirteen, when the couple first moved
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Speaker 3: to Massanne, Giselle was having issues with her health. So
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Speaker 3: she was experiencing problems with memory loss, she was losing
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Speaker 3: her hair, losing weight. I think it was in particular
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Speaker 3: the memory loss that really started to flag to the
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Speaker 3: wider family that something was going on.
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Speaker 5: It was this very awkward, weird sensation where she felt
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Speaker 5: like she was losing conception of time and losing her life.
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Speaker 5: Her life was kind of escaping her, so she won't
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Speaker 5: to see the three neurologists. She thought maybe she had Alzheimer's.
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Speaker 3: At the time, Dominique was being incredibly supportive, so Gazelle
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Speaker 3: was sort of being driven crazy, wondering what was going on,
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Speaker 3: but knowing that she had this very supportive husband beside her.
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Speaker 5: He's telling her that she's going to be fine, that
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Speaker 5: she's gone nothing to worry about. No one could tell
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Speaker 5: her exactly what was going on. No one could think
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Speaker 5: of really the unthinkable, and no one could imagine the unimaginable.
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Speaker 3: And it was only when Dominique was caught upskirting woman
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty that suddenly things started to slip into place.
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Speaker 11: It's two months after Dominique Pelico has been arrested for
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Speaker 11: upskirting in a supermarket. Gazelle has forgiven her husband, but
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Speaker 11: then they are summoned to the police station.
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Speaker 5: They have a normal morning together in the house and
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Speaker 5: then they drive to the police station. Gizel Pilico at
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Speaker 5: the stage thinks that this is linked to the obscirting
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Speaker 5: incident at the supermarket. There's this powerful moment when Giselle
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Speaker 5: sees her husband Dominique being called upstairs and going up
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Speaker 5: the stairs to be a questioned and she stays downstairs
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Speaker 5: in the exchange a look and at this point she
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Speaker 5: has no idea that this is the last time she's
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Speaker 5: going to see her husband.
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Speaker 1: The officer said, I am going to show you some
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Speaker 1: things which she will not find pleasant. He opened a
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Speaker 1: folder and he showed me a photograph. It was hard
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Speaker 1: to recognize myself dressed up in a way that wasn't familiar.
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Speaker 1: Then he showed me a second photo and a third.
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Speaker 1: I asked him to stop. It was unbearable. I was
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Speaker 1: inert in my bed and a man was raping me.
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Speaker 1: My world fell apart.
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Speaker 3: I just can't stop yourself thinking what would it be
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Speaker 3: like to be Giselle in that moment, The idea that
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Speaker 3: you could be looking at somebody who is doing everything
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Speaker 3: for you, especially when you're in a moment of weakness
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Speaker 3: and illness, and you feel so grateful to them, only
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Speaker 3: for it to come out later that they've been betraying
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Speaker 3: you in one of the most awful ways imaginable.
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Speaker 6: It's really, really sinister.
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Speaker 5: It's also the night where she tells her children. She
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Speaker 5: calls her daughter first and she tells her, I'll get
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Speaker 5: something horrible to tell you. And she tells her that
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Speaker 5: her father had been raping her for many years and
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Speaker 5: inviting unknown men to have sex with her while she
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Speaker 5: was lying and conscious. And it's just a earthquake, a
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Speaker 11: Giselle has been confronted with videos showing her husband and
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Speaker 11: other men having sex with her whilst she is sleeping.
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Speaker 11: Investigators have to piece together how this could have happened.
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Speaker 3: What the police are able to establish from these videos
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Speaker 3: is that this has been going on for a period
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Speaker 3: of about ten years.
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Speaker 11: In twenty eleven, the Pelicos have been married for almost
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Speaker 11: forty years and are living in Paris. They are grandparents
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Speaker 11: living a happy, peaceful life.
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Speaker 11: Under the pretense of caring for his wife, Dominique started
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Speaker 11: to drug her.
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Speaker 3: Pelico was using a drug called Semester, which is an
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Speaker 3: anti anxiety medication.
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Speaker 11: Temester, otherwise known as laurezapam, is used to treat anxiety
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Speaker 11: and sleeping problems. Dominique was using drugs he was prescribed
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Speaker 11: by his doctor.
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Speaker 5: He would crush the drug, usually eat three pills, and
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Speaker 5: he would mix it in the food. He often cooked
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Speaker 5: with a lot of garlic, a lot of onion, spices
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Speaker 5: full of taste and flagrances to hide the taste and
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Speaker 5: the color of the drug.
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Speaker 3: If he couldn't get it into her food at dinner,
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Speaker 3: he would bring a favorite ice cream.
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Speaker 11: High dosages of temesta can cause someone to lose consciousness.
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Speaker 1: He brought me my ice cream to bed, my favorite flavor, raspberry.
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Speaker 1: I told him, Oh lucky I am.
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Speaker 12: You're a love.
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Speaker 1: You really take care of me. I never felt my
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Speaker 1: heart race. I didn't feel anything. I must have gone
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Speaker 1: under very quickly.
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Speaker 11: The drugs made Giselle fall into a deep comatose like sleep.
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Speaker 5: If you gave her the temissa too early, she would
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Speaker 5: wake up too early, and so you had to really
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Speaker 5: time everything.
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Speaker 3: There are a couple of occasions which are documented on
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Speaker 3: video which show Gizelle waking up and she still had
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Speaker 3: no memory of this. Pelico was working out how to
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Speaker 3: keep her unconscious.
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Speaker 1: The next day, I was more tired than usual, but
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Speaker 1: I was walking a lot and thought it was that.
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Speaker 11: After drugging Giselle, Dominique raped her. This abuse continued for
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Speaker 11: two years. In twenty thirteen, the couple moved to Mazan. There,
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Speaker 11: Dominique escalated his crimes. He began inviting strangers to take part.
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Speaker 3: Pelico gave the men quite extensive instructions. He would tell
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Speaker 3: them if they were driving, park their car at a
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Speaker 3: nearby sports center so as not to arouse suspicion of
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Speaker 3: the neighbors. He would tell them that they weren't allowed
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Speaker 3: to wear after shave, they shouldn't smoke before they came
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Speaker 3: over to his home.
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Speaker 11: Dominique was precise and meticulous in his planning.
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Speaker 4: He even asked them to warm their hands on the
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Speaker 4: radiator because cold hands might mean that Ghaselle would wake up.
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Speaker 3: Pelico was doing absolutely everything he could to make sure
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Speaker 3: that she didn't awake or have any suspicions in the
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Speaker 3: morning about what happened that night.
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Speaker 4: And I actually think he really enjoyed giving those men
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Speaker 4: that protocol. It's I'm in control of this person. I
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Speaker 4: own this person. If you want access to her, this
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Speaker 4: is what you need to do because I'm the gatekeeper.
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Speaker 12: It's quiet that they're whispering to not wake her up.
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Speaker 12: This is someone who is is literally in the deepest,
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Speaker 12: deepest sleep.
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Speaker 5: She's like a corpse basically, you know, it's a body.
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Speaker 5: Her joy is kind of you know, dropping on the
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Speaker 5: side and she's snoring. They touch her, do all these
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Speaker 5: horrible things to her, and she's not moving. She's obviously
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Speaker 5: passed out and she's not responding.
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Speaker 10: Often she's fully naked. Sometimes her clothes are pulled up
31:51
Speaker 10: and her panties are pulled down. The men come up
31:59
Speaker 10: behind her. They're often masturbating to get excited, and you
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Speaker 10: see men sticking their penises inside her vagina, her bomb
32:13
Speaker 10: her mouth without ever talking to her.
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Speaker 1: These are scenes of barbarity. They regarded me like a
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Speaker 1: rag doll, like a garbage bag. I am lying motionless
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Speaker 1: on the bed being raped.
32:42
Speaker 4: The particular fetish really comes through something called somnophilia, and
32:47
Speaker 4: that is the fetish or the desire to have sex
32:51
Speaker 4: with someone who is unmoving and unconscious. Sometimes it's quite
32:56
Speaker 4: disturbingly called the sleeping beauty fetish.
33:00
Speaker 5: This is a criminal act.
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Speaker 4: He has not requested consent from his own wife to
33:06
Speaker 4: engage in this activity.
33:10
Speaker 11: Police are only able to discover the extent of the
33:13
Speaker 11: crimes because Dominique had been filming.
33:17
Speaker 5: Dominique Pettico was really.
33:21
Speaker 16: Influenced by pornography. He was thinking himself as a movie director.
33:29
Speaker 10: He videos the sex scenes or the rape scenes. There's
33:34
Speaker 10: videos that are on a tripod, but also often the
33:37
Speaker 10: videos come in close.
33:39
Speaker 12: You can hear her ex husband directing them a little bit.
33:42
Speaker 10: He'll say like softly, softly, or he'll use some vulgar
33:47
Speaker 10: terms about her, like stick it in the horror, or
33:50
Speaker 10: you know, she's such a whrse.
33:51
Speaker 12: She deserves this.
33:55
Speaker 5: There were hundreds of files, photos and videos of the abuse.
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Speaker 5: Meticulously saved them and organize them and archived them.
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Speaker 14: He dekupated second's video the sec act.
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Speaker 13: Eksisel from Sando Saint Sexuurie.
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Speaker 16: He classified all the video the same way that you
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Speaker 16: can find them on pornography website.
34:23
Speaker 5: This is someone who loves what they are doing so much.
34:27
Speaker 4: But actually the planning, the organizing, the very very rich
34:31
Speaker 4: fantasy world that someone like Dominiq would live in is
34:35
Speaker 4: a big part of who he was.
34:37
Speaker 5: He would have been thinking about this all of the time.
34:43
Speaker 11: Over the years, Dominique started to look elsewhere, turning his
34:49
Speaker 11: attention to his own daughter Caroline.
34:54
Speaker 10: Among these thousands of photos, they were a number of
34:59
Speaker 10: her in her father's catalog. A number of them had
35:03
Speaker 10: been erased but were reconstituted by digital experts at the police.
35:10
Speaker 16: Dominique Pelico shared a different pictures of her and her
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Speaker 16: mother online with really degrading comments about them.
35:20
Speaker 10: There was also a photo montage of her and her
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Speaker 10: mother coming out of the bathroom together that was titled
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Speaker 10: my slut and her Daughter.
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Speaker 11: Photos of the Pelico's daughters in law were also.
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Speaker 14: Found defoto and de plan concerns.
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Speaker 13: Don't see yea, I will see la fish.
36:03
Speaker 4: He was that opportunist. He was the constant, constant voyeur.
36:13
Speaker 11: Dominique had kept this secret life hidden for almost a decade.
36:21
Speaker 5: When they did psychiatrist evaluation, they didn't find any actual
36:26
Speaker 5: mental illnesses or serious mental disorders. But he has two identities.
36:36
Speaker 4: He needed to be able to compartmentalize, to show up
36:38
Speaker 4: and act like a loving husband, to act a loving father,
36:42
Speaker 4: so that really he could serve his greater purpose.
36:46
Speaker 5: He was able to manipolte everyone around him, his children,
36:51
Speaker 5: their friends, his wife for years without them having any
36:58
Speaker 5: idea of what was going on.
37:01
Speaker 11: For fifty years.
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Speaker 1: I leave it with a man who I never would
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Speaker 1: have imagined could be capable of this. For me, it
37:10
Speaker 1: was someone I trusted entirely.
37:21
Speaker 11: The deception continued as Gaselle's health deteriorated.
37:29
Speaker 1: The signs were there, but I never knew how to
37:34
Speaker 1: decode them.
37:36
Speaker 5: He's seeing her getting really worried about her health. She's
37:41
Speaker 5: losing weight. He goes with her to see the doctors.
37:44
Speaker 5: He knows very well what's going on, and yet he
37:46
Speaker 5: says nothing.
37:48
Speaker 3: It's so deeply sinister, it's almost like a nightmare. The
37:54
Speaker 3: thing she took as a sign of love during a
37:57
Speaker 3: period of weakness in her life was actually how he
38:00
Speaker 3: was able to perpetrate these crimes.
38:04
Speaker 11: Dominique had masterminded a campaign of abuse and spun a
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Speaker 11: web of lies, but he hadn't acted alone.
38:15
Speaker 8: But no more year of its affair, soizumor ve Don Domicil.
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Speaker 11: The police investigation into the videos reveals the scale of
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Speaker 11: the abuse against Giselle. They count nearly two hundred instances
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Speaker 11: of alleged straight carried out by Dominique, Pelico and seventy
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Speaker 11: two others. They are able to identify fifty of the men.
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Speaker 3: It's a complete cross section of society. The ages range
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Speaker 3: from twenty six to seventy four.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, Pompierre, Pavois, jeiste.
39:45
Speaker 3: A soldier, a nurse, a prison guard, a baker. You
39:48
Speaker 3: have men who are unemployed, and they have actually been
39:52
Speaker 3: described by Pelico's lawyer as an example of mister average.
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Speaker 11: Three of the defendants are from Mazarin itself, including a
40:05
Speaker 11: neighbor of the Pelicos.
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Speaker 3: One of them Zell actually recognized when she was taken
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Speaker 3: to the police station.
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Speaker 1: I saw him now and then in the bakery, I
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Speaker 1: would say hello.
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Speaker 3: He had once visited their home, pretending that he was
40:24
Speaker 3: going to see Dominique about his bike.
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Speaker 5: He enjoyed tackling in the hands of cyclist friends he
40:35
Speaker 5: came out to the Pelico's house to see Shellbiliico in
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Speaker 5: the flesh before coming back to alleged sexually abuse her.
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Speaker 1: I never thought he'd come and orate me.
40:54
Speaker 11: The neighbor denies the allegation.
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Speaker 5: So on other occasions he had told men who were
41:06
Speaker 5: eager to see her before coming to the house to
41:09
Speaker 5: meet them at the supermarket, or he'd send photos of
41:14
Speaker 5: her or videos of her so they could see, you know,
41:17
Speaker 5: what she looked like before before turning up.
41:21
Speaker 1: The profile of a rapist is not someone who you
41:24
Speaker 1: meet the car park late at night. A rapist can
41:28
Speaker 1: also be in the family or among friends.
41:37
Speaker 11: The men traveled to Mazan from up to forty miles away.
41:42
Speaker 11: Dominique had found a method of recruitment.
41:46
Speaker 3: Once the police started probing and they asked the question
41:49
Speaker 3: how are these men being invited to Pelico's house, they
41:52
Speaker 3: discovered that he's been using this website.
41:56
Speaker 11: Dominique had signed up to a French chat room called Coco.
42:01
Speaker 17: It was sort of advertised as a dating site of sorts,
42:06
Speaker 17: where male users had their accounts hosted in blue, women
42:10
Speaker 17: in pink, but couples were also in pink. From the outside,
42:14
Speaker 17: it seemed very innocuous, but inside it was very different.
42:20
Speaker 11: Behind its childlike interface, the chat room had a darker reputation.
42:30
Speaker 7: The very famous website linked with a lot of criminal activities,
42:35
Speaker 7: a sort of free forum gathering pimps, peder criminals, sex buyers,
42:43
Speaker 7: just being able to display as sexual intimate content about women,
42:48
Speaker 7: being able to chat about women in the most sexist,
42:53
Speaker 7: deshumanizing language.
42:54
Speaker 11: Two Coco allowed users to hide their real identity.
43:05
Speaker 3: Dominique Pelico used a pseudonym and he found a chat
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Speaker 3: room called Without Her Knowledge.
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Speaker 17: This is a discussion forum that essentially was about image
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Speaker 17: based sexual abuse.
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Speaker 3: underwear on this site and says, me and my wife
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Speaker 3: are interested in threesomes, which would you like to be involved?
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Speaker 11: The conversation would continue in private, sometimes by text or
43:49
Speaker 11: on Skype docree domur divis. These say that Dominique's messages
44:01
Speaker 11: were clear. He invited men to rape Giselle whilst she
44:06
Speaker 11: was unconscious.
44:08
Speaker 4: But we know that from one of the adverts he
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Speaker 4: actually wrote I'm looking for someone to abuse my wife
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Speaker 4: asleep you're.
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Speaker 11: One of the defendants speaks on camera for the first time.
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Speaker 1: I never even for a single second gave my consent
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Speaker 1: to mister Pelico or those other men.
45:53
Speaker 11: The committee rape.
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Speaker 1: Not for a moment did these men say to themselves
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Speaker 1: is there something wrong?
46:09
Speaker 4: I think Dominique really enjoyed what was essentially a really
46:12
Speaker 4: sinister recruitment process finding those right people, and he was
46:16
Speaker 4: able to use an online space as a very clever
46:19
Speaker 4: filtering process to find those hearteners in crime.
46:24
Speaker 3: One of the questions that has really stuck with me
46:26
Speaker 3: while reporting on this trial is how many men Di
46:29
Speaker 3: Pelico approach who said no, but didn't report it.
46:35
Speaker 17: Being online, it somehow removes any form of countability. It
46:40
Speaker 17: can desensitize people as well from the harms that they
46:44
Speaker 17: are causing.
46:47
Speaker 11: Dominique looked for men to help him take his crimes
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Speaker 11: a step further.
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Speaker 5: The only man who is not tried with rape on
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Speaker 5: Giselle Pilico is Machelle. He's also known sometimes as Dominique
47:10
Speaker 5: Pelico's disciple.
47:12
Speaker 11: Jean Pierre Marochelle and Dominique met on Coco.
47:19
Speaker 3: Marochale, a retired lorry driver, had learned from Pelico how
47:24
Speaker 3: to drug his own wife and in fact invited Dominique
47:27
Speaker 3: Pelico over to his home to rape her and used
47:31
Speaker 3: the same sedation technique that Pelico had been using on Gazelle.
47:35
Speaker 5: Dominique Pilico went to Machelle's house and together they raped
47:40
Speaker 5: his wife while she was unconscious.
47:45
Speaker 11: At court, both men admit the drugging and raping of
47:49
Speaker 11: Jean Pierre's wife over a five year period.
47:53
Speaker 5: So I think he enjoyed that.
47:54
Speaker 4: I think he liked this idea of teacher students, and
47:57
Speaker 4: I think that's really what Dominique was trying to do,
47:59
Speaker 4: was to find and other like minds who would engage
48:02
Speaker 4: in the same activity.
48:09
Speaker 11: The ten years of abuse came to an end when
48:12
Speaker 11: Dominique was arrested in twenty Twenty Four years later, one
48:22
Speaker 11: of the most shocking trials in French history begins.
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Speaker 5: It's a very sort of tense atmosphere.
48:29
Speaker 10: Dominique Peligote has taken this position that you know, I
48:33
Speaker 10: am guilty, I have admitted everything they all knew, and
48:38
Speaker 10: I'm a rapist and they are rapists too.
48:41
Speaker 5: If the accused denies raping or denies penetration, then the
48:48
Speaker 5: court decides to show the videos.
49:06
Speaker 11: Four years after Gazelle's world is turned upside down, the
49:10
Speaker 11: rape trial of Dominique Pelico and fifty other defendants begins
49:15
Speaker 11: in Avignon. Arriving at court to applause each day, Giselle
49:25
Speaker 11: is greeted by members of the public and the world's media.
49:29
Speaker 17: One of the reasons why this case has received so
49:32
Speaker 17: much attention is the bravery of just in waiving her
49:35
Speaker 17: right to anonymity, and in doing so, this has allowed
49:38
Speaker 17: the world's media to be able to be there in
49:42
Speaker 17: the courts to hear this trial and publicize it to
49:44
Speaker 17: the rest of the world.
49:47
Speaker 7: Usually, trials that concern sexist and sexual violence in France,
49:52
Speaker 7: they are behind closed doors. When you open the door
49:56
Speaker 7: to this kind of trial, you know that to relfe
49:59
Speaker 7: for will be exposed. You know that all of your
50:02
Speaker 7: life will be scrutinized. So that's a very brave thing
50:06
Speaker 7: to do.
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Speaker 1: I wanted old women who are victims of rape to
50:13
Speaker 1: be able to say, missus Pelico did it, We can
50:16
Speaker 1: do it too.
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Speaker 11: When you are raped, there is shame, and it's not
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Speaker 11: for us to have shame.
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Speaker 3: The attention that Giselle has received as a result of
50:45
Speaker 3: this case is like nothing she's ever experienced in her life.
50:50
Speaker 3: She is a grandmother and a former logistics manager, and
50:55
Speaker 3: suddenly she has come to represent for any woman who
50:58
Speaker 3: has ever been sexually assaulted, this paragon of bravery.
51:04
Speaker 9: At court, Giselle Pelico walks past just some of the
51:08
Speaker 9: fifty men, some in hoods, accused of raping her while
51:12
Speaker 9: she lay unconscious.
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Speaker 5: Priscianus Imois.
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Speaker 11: Thirty five of the fifty men deny raping Giselle.
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Speaker 17: One of the challenges in prosecuting this case is that
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Speaker 17: consent is not included within the legal definition of French
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Speaker 17: rape p law, there is a duty to prove that
51:41
Speaker 17: the accused had the intention to actually commit rape.
51:47
Speaker 3: Some of them have literally said, I didn't leave my
51:49
Speaker 3: house that day with the intention of raping a woman,
51:52
Speaker 3: and therefore I'm not a rapist. A couple of them
51:55
Speaker 3: said that they first thought she was dead, but somehow
51:58
Speaker 3: they managed to I concile that in the head and
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Speaker 3: go ahead with what they plan to do. Others really
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53:33
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Speaker 5: but no one could have calling the police.
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Speaker 11: This defendant claims that Giselle must have noticed signs of
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Speaker 5: and somehow that wants to blame. Lawyers of the defense
54:21
Speaker 5: then asking her whether she's into thrisms or whether she's
54:25
Speaker 5: into swinging. No matter how many photos and videos she
54:28
Speaker 5: can show about what happened, they're still trying to blame
54:32
Speaker 5: her for it.
54:34
Speaker 7: The comments that we heard in the defense arguments were
54:39
Speaker 7: archaic and shows also the height of misogyny and the
54:43
Speaker 7: utmost contempt for women. Some defendants used arguments saying, well,
54:48
Speaker 7: Dominique Pelico, the husband gave his consent as if the
54:52
Speaker 7: wife was the ultimate property of her husband.
54:58
Speaker 11: Whilst many consider did the defense arguments to be deeply misogynistic.
55:03
Speaker 11: This defendant takes an opposing view.
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Speaker 5: Even I can't recall another trial in France or anywhere
55:43
Speaker 5: else in the world where a rape case that has
55:47
Speaker 5: so much evidence and in that weird way, you know,
55:50
Speaker 5: Pelico has the perfect trial because unlike so many other women,
55:56
Speaker 5: she has proof of what has been done to her.
55:59
Speaker 11: Oh the Gisel's insistence. The judge rules that the videos
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Speaker 11: be shown in court.
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Speaker 13: The premier video comus audience. Yea general ki keep plenty
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Speaker 10: When you sit in that courtroom and you see one
56:32
Speaker 10: video after another of a woman snoring deeply loudly, it's
56:39
Speaker 10: echoing in the courtroom. She was not a human being
56:43
Speaker 10: in that moment, and I think that's really shaken a
56:47
Speaker 10: lot of people as to.
56:51
Speaker 12: How men see women.
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Speaker 9: The rest of the courtroom fell completely silent as Giselle
57:13
Speaker 9: Pelico said she wanted to address her ex husband directly.
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Speaker 1: So many times I said to myself, I'm lucky I
57:23
Speaker 1: am to have you at my side. How could you
57:27
Speaker 1: have betrayed me to this point? How could you have
57:30
Speaker 1: brought these strangers into my bedroom. I am a woman
57:35
Speaker 1: who is totally destroyed. I don't know if my whole
57:40
Speaker 1: life will be enough to understand.
57:51
Speaker 5: Their daughter, Caroline. She feels like she's the forgotten person
57:55
Speaker 5: of this trial because the police found two photos of
57:59
Speaker 5: her lying down on a bed, wearing unaware that she
58:03
Speaker 5: doesn't recognize putting two and two together. She's convinced that
58:07
Speaker 5: she was also drug un abused.
58:09
Speaker 11: Dominique tells the court he only took the photos of
58:12
Speaker 11: his daughter because he was being blackmailed, but offers no
58:16
Speaker 11: further explanation. He denies ever drugging or touching her, but
58:22
Speaker 11: Caroline is convinced he is lying.
58:26
Speaker 12: She gets red.
58:27
Speaker 10: She's frustrated. She screams at him, you know, like you're
58:31
Speaker 10: a liar. You're going to die alone. She was hoping,
58:34
Speaker 10: I think, for some sort of closure in this court case,
58:38
Speaker 10: but there's what with her that's unresolved.
58:42
Speaker 11: While investigating this case, police discover that Dominique's criminal activity
58:48
Speaker 11: dates back further than initially thought.
58:55
Speaker 3: What's emerged is that Dominique Pelico is potentially connected to
58:59
Speaker 3: at least two other crimes. These are cold cases from
59:02
Speaker 3: the nineties. In nineteen ninety nine, an attempted rape of
59:07
Speaker 3: an estate agent in Paris, and because of a DNA match,
59:11
Speaker 3: Pelico has admitted that he was involved in this crime.
59:15
Speaker 3: There's another case which took place in nineteen ninety one,
59:19
Speaker 3: and he is being accused of.
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Speaker 6: Being involved in the murder of a woman called Sophie arm.
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Speaker 11: After a DNA match, Dominique Pelico has admitted to the
59:49
Speaker 11: nineteen ninety nine attempted rape of an estate agent in Paris.
59:54
Speaker 11: Investigators suspect he may have been responsible for a very
59:58
Speaker 11: similar case in ninety ten ninety one, the rape and
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Speaker 7: Hlico is making history. She is leaving a legacy for
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Speaker 7: This trial has had a huge impact in the French society.
1:01:32
Speaker 7: A lot of protests have been taking place in solidarity
1:01:36
Speaker 7: with Pelico.
1:01:38
Speaker 14: She responsibility.
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Speaker 3: This trial is reckoning for France and the lower and consent,
1:02:00
Speaker 3: but it's also allowing women to say, look, we're here
1:02:05
Speaker 3: to be believed. You know, even if it's harassment on
1:02:07
Speaker 3: the street, it's you know, being inappropriately touched in a club.
1:02:11
Speaker 3: We're talking about this, We're saying it's happening, and Giselle
1:02:15
Speaker 3: is standing up and saying, look, listen to us when
1:02:18
Speaker 3: we say what's happening.
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Speaker 5: You measured to the government to fight.
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Speaker 2: Against violence against women.
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Speaker 16: All the victim I believe bring out.
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Speaker 16: Ninety four percent of rape cases are dropped before they
1:02:43
Speaker 16: go to trial. So it's meant that the hundreds and
1:02:47
Speaker 16: thousands of women in France that had received no justice
1:02:51
Speaker 16: for what happened to her. We're really hoping that this
1:02:54
Speaker 16: could be a game changer in the fight against rape
1:02:57
Speaker 16: culture and sexual violence in France.
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Speaker 11: For the local people of Mazan, this case has been
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Speaker 11: After this historic trial, Giselle, her family and the world
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