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Jutes: Writing for Demi Lovato, Getting Sober & the Song That Almost Didn't Make the Album · The Joint Venture Show

• [01:00:00] Craig Carton: All right, welcome to another edition of The Joint Venture, Craig Carton and Lil Wayne. What's up, kids? [01:00:06] Lil Wayne: I'm great. If I would get the opportunity to sing it, I would give it my all. It'd probably sound horrible, but I'd give it all my all for it. I'll auto-tune it. You say auto-... I'll autotune the fuck out of it, what? [01:00:18] Craig Carton: Man, he sounds like Barry White! [01:00:22] Craig Carton: Our first guest today is a rock star from Canada. We'll get into that. This is Jutes. Jutes, come on in, buddy. Appreciate you being here today. [01:00:32] Jutes: There were multiple people that agreed with me that maybe this shouldn't be on the album and then my wife and the producer, they were both like, it's the best song on the album and I was like, I trust you both. [01:00:43] Craig Carton: Your wife does have a pretty good ear for music, you married Demi Lovato. [01:00:46] Jutes: Married Demi Lovato. That's why I came out. I was like, well, you're, you've been right before, so. Like she would probably know. You've been right before. You got a bit of an ear. [01:00:55] Craig Carton: All right, welcome to another edition of The Joint Venture, Craig Carton and Lil Wayne. What's up, kids? [01:01:01] Lil Wayne: I'm great, man. Are you? Yeah. [01:01:03] Craig Carton: You look great. I'm trying to figure out what football team you like. So I'm tryin' to put it all together. [01:01:09] Lil Wayne: You don't know who that girl is. [01:01:10] Craig Carton: I do, don't I? Yeah, man, you look awesome, brother. Yes, modern science. Man, you looks awesome. And kettlebells. I'm big into kettlebell. Yeah. It's like when I asked you last week, how do you keep it all tight and you're like, you have a great chef, which is part of it, but you don't eat the junk. [01:01:24] Lil Wayne: Yeah, I don't eat anything but what the chef makes. [01:01:27] Craig Carton: So maybe I gotta bar him for a minute. [01:01:29] Lil Wayne: Yeah, you can, no problem. All good. [01:01:32] Craig Carton: So I was trying to think what do you get the guy that has everything okay, and I decided and I'm not the fashion guy here And I respect that I'm a hoodie and hat guy, but fresh off the presses. Oh man The official merch is here. I was already checking out. Yeah, that's yours Yeah, that's yours! And we got plenty more, so I wanted you to have that as the second one ever made. [01:01:53] Lil Wayne: That's love. [01:01:54] Craig Carton: There you go. All right, couple things. We have a couple great guests today. We're gonna get to them in a second. Shout out. [01:01:59] Lil Wayne: How you should usage use chick? Oh, no his wife. Yeah, she made that. Yeah. She already know how to say they last name That's hard. I just got you Like the crowd Offseason [01:02:12] Craig Carton: I'm surprised she's allowed to make non-niners. [01:02:14] Lil Wayne: Nah, she make everybody, she, she get everybody right. [01:02:18] Craig Carton: And I think she does it by hand, right? Yeah, yeah, she does, yeah she does. [01:02:22] Lil Wayne: That's a legit one of one. And I've seen, I saw like a new commercial, like I wanna say like Fabletics or something commercial with just her and like a whole bunch of people. So she got the license. Yeah, she got a whole line. [01:02:33] Craig Carton: Good for her! [01:02:34] Lil Wayne: See? Good for him! I appreciate it. [01:02:37] Craig Carton: I have to say, even though you know I'm a Die Hard Jet fan. [01:02:40] Lil Wayne: I'll whip you in a real- [01:02:42] Craig Carton: It's a nice vest. [01:02:43] Lil Wayne: Real quick! [01:02:44] Craig Carton: Yeah, I gotta reach out to her. [01:02:45] Lil Wayne: Trust me, if she even get a whiff of this just being what we just did, you'll have a just. Yes. She's very, very, [01:02:52] Craig Carton: I had a tough week. [01:02:54] Lil Wayne: To be honest with you. [01:02:55] Craig Carton: No, because I came across a conspiracy theory that I went all the way into the hole. What happened? Panda bears aren't real. [01:03:05] Lil Wayne: EXPLAIN [01:03:06] Craig Carton: Yeah, so it's a real problem for me now because so so as the story goes Every panda bear in the world is owned by China Okay, like you can't get a panda bear every zoo in America that's got one China lent the bear to us Okay, and they were invented to eat bamboo. They're not real and I'm having a tough time with that [01:03:26] Lil Wayne: No, wait, that still doesn't make them that real. [01:03:29] Craig Carton: Well, they have hearts and they have blood in their bodies, but they're chemically engineered somehow. [01:03:36] Lil Wayne: JUST TO EAT BAMBOO! [01:03:38] Craig Carton: Yeah, because bamboo is like an invasive plant of some or some kind [01:03:41] Lil Wayne: The bamboo is serious. [01:03:42] Craig Carton: It's like once you get one bamboo plant your house is gone. Yeah, unless you have a panda bear Wow, so the Chinese Invented as the conspiracy theory goes and I'm all about it I think it's probably accurate because I can't disprove it Okay, and it was a there's a body blow for me because how cute are they like? Oh, man They're like, oh my wife's like, hey, maybe one day you buy me a panda bare. You can't [01:04:03] Lil Wayne: That means it's easier to buy one. [01:04:05] Craig Carton: No, no. The Chinese own it. You can't buy it. [01:04:07] Lil Wayne: Like I say it Call the bronze guy [01:04:13] Craig Carton: Trying to get a panda bear. He said, call LeBron. By the way, if there's one guy that can probably buy a panda bear, it's probably LeBrun, right? [01:04:21] Lil Wayne: That still doesn't make them like not real [01:04:25] Craig Carton: Yeah, they're not real, like they were invented. They don't grow in the wild, they don't exist anywhere. [01:04:30] Lil Wayne: Oh, now that makes them not real. They like made them, they cross-breed them. They were, yeah, they were like lab-created. [01:04:37] Craig Carton: Lab-created bears what yeah, and they're supposed to eat meat, but they don't the only bamboo [01:04:43] Lil Wayne: I knew that they only eat bamboo, but I didn't I thought it was just because it was like their genetics or something [01:04:48] Craig Carton: Yeah, no, not sadly. So just maybe ask your chef if he can get some rogue like a panda bear meat I'm in I'll swing by the crib. He was I've had kangaroo, but you ever eat kangaroo [01:05:00] Lil Wayne: No, but it was offered to me before, I didn't want to... [01:05:02] Craig Carton: It's like gamey chicken. [01:05:04] Lil Wayne: Is that you know everything weird tastes like chicken [01:05:07] Craig Carton: That's what they said. [01:05:08] Lil Wayne: Yes, everything weird alligator tastes like chicken. It does. Yeah, it tastes like [01:05:13] Craig Carton: Yeah, but you're from Louisiana. You must have had alligators growing up. [01:05:15] Lil Wayne: It tastes like chicken nuggets. It doesn't taste like like, you know, like it tastes like more of a chicken nugget [01:05:21] Craig Carton: As we start every show before we get to our guests, let's do questions from the audience And we appreciate you guys reaching out random order question number one from Holly and Scranton Wayne Have you ever done or would you ever do a Christmas album? [01:05:37] Lil Wayne: I would, I guess I would love to do a Christmas album, of course I've never done one before, but I've been a part of Christmas albums, a part Christmas music type of thing, I've done that before and I wouldn't mind doing a Christmas Album, especially if Mariah Carey would help me with it. Yeah! [01:05:54] Craig Carton: That'd be nice, but she's got the biggest Christmas song of all time. [01:05:56] Lil Wayne: Her Christmas starts at the I think November 1st, right? Yes. Yeah [01:06:00] Craig Carton: Cha-ching, it's like an annuity. [01:06:03] Lil Wayne: I know all about it, yes. [01:06:06] Craig Carton: Matter of fact, your ex-husband's gonna be here later tonight. Nick Cannon's on the show. [01:06:09] Lil Wayne: Wow. [01:06:11] Craig Carton: Yeah, you know Nick, right? Yeah. Yeah. I number two again. No particular or Kevin in Philadelphia Do you think you could ever wrap the national anthem? [01:06:20] Lil Wayne: Uh, I can rap anything, and yes I can, rap the National Anthem, but I'd much rather play it on my guitar or sing it. Really? Yeah, I wouldn't want to disrespect the National anthem. [01:06:34] Craig Carton: No, you'd have to get it right. And I've seen you on the guitar. You can play guitar. [01:06:39] Lil Wayne: And if I were to get the opportunity to sing it, I would give it my all. It'd probably sound horrible, but I'd give it all my all, though. No, autotune it. He said autotun... I oughta tune the fuck out of it, what? [01:06:51] Craig Carton: He sounds like Barry White! [01:06:55] Lil Wayne: I did. You know, I did San Francisco Giants. I was there for like, I think it was a playoff game or maybe even more than that. And it was one year and they wanted me to sing, you know, it was the bottom, the middle of the seventh. [01:07:09] Craig Carton: I'll take me out to the ballgame. [01:07:10] Lil Wayne: And yeah, because I couldn't, I was like, y'all know I can't sing no God bless America, right? And they was like you know, it's okay to sing, take me out, I thought that was only the Cubs thing. Yeah, but they allowed me to sing. And did you do it? Yeah. Were you nervous? Nah, because you know the crowd, you only gotta say what, two lines. Yeah, two line, the crowd about to join in as soon as they even hear it. [01:07:30] Craig Carton: It's like when you do Millie now. You ain't gotta say but, yo. [01:07:33] Lil Wayne: That's a blessing. That's [01:07:35] Craig Carton: And final one for you, I'll give you a choice. You want to hear the question from Andre in Miami or Jasmine in Atlanta? And let's go with Jasmine. Okay, Jasmine in the Atlanta said, I watch your guys' podcasts every week. Couple weeks ago you said that you had a lot of unreleased material with Drake. Is there someone that you have unreleased material with that would blow the internet up if they heard about it? [01:08:02] Lil Wayne: Um, I have put it like this on my drive, on my music drive. I have from literally from A to Z of unreleased music. And when I say from A-Z, that means artists, other artists ranging from A to Z. So [01:08:20] Craig Carton: everybody. [01:08:21] Lil Wayne: Everybody. Do you think? [01:08:22] Craig Carton: Do you think there's a chance you'll ever release all of it? [01:08:24] Lil Wayne: Uh, that's, because it's usually their music. Got it. Yeah, it's their music, so. You're like featured on their stuff. Exactly. So it's whenever they release it. [01:08:32] Craig Carton: Well, it's interesting that you were talking about maybe playing guitar for the National Anthem. Our first guest today is a rock star from Canada. We'll get into that. This is Jutes. Jutes, come on in, buddy. Appreciate you being here today. It's sick. It looks like a rockstar, too. Yeah. Don't let the lights hurt you there. Appreciate you coming. Now, I just gotta get one thing out of the way quickly. I wanna make sure that the guy sitting in between me and Wayne is actually Jutes and not a guy I've been looking for named Jake. [01:09:01] Jutes: Okay, you brought up the Jake thing. I gotta bring up the jake thing. Yeah, someone tried to fight me on the street, thought I was a guy named Jake. Tell us the story. I was having a coffee with my manager, I don't remember where, and some guy ran over trying to fight me and was like, Jake, I finally found you, Jake, get up, and everybody's staring at me. And he's like, come here, come here. And he screaming at me. And until we were done eating, he was standing there screaming like no one was stopping him. Like the restaurant was kind of like, I guess you did something. I guess she did. [01:09:31] Craig Carton: At any point were you like tell me what Jake did like so at least I know what I'm getting in a fight over I was here. I was [01:09:35] Jutes: I was super curious, but I was like I say one thing to this guy, and he's definitely running up to me. So you just ignored him? Yeah, he was very unpredictable. [01:09:43] Craig Carton: As you're supposed to the real question is did the manager do anything or say anything or do you? Or did he? [01:09:49] Jutes: He probably planted it. He was filming on his phone the whole time, probably trying to get a clip. [01:09:53] Craig Carton: Well, it's good having you and congrats on your success. I know your latest song blew up top three, top four, right? On the rock charts. [01:10:00] Jutes: The rock charts? Yeah, on the heavy rock charts or whatever on billboard. That's badass, congrats on that. Thank you so much. When you record do you know you got a hit? Funny thing is this is on the deluxe of my album and it almost didn't even make the delux. [01:10:14] Lil Wayne: Know about you know I know the deluxe I know about all that so I'm [01:10:16] Jutes: So I'm like I almost didn't even put this song on the record at all. What is? [01:10:20] Lil Wayne: What does the deluxe mean deluxe is basically extra songs that you want to make the original album for whatever reason they didn't but Like he said, you know you get that basically a second chance [01:10:30] Jutes: kind of extend the album a little bit. Okay, so I'm like, okay, let's keep it going, keep the party going, and we put out this song, but before putting it out, I played it live a little bit, and then the clips of me playing it live went viral, and I was like, oh, and then we ended up having to move the release date earlier, because everybody, it went viral every time I posted it, and then it's now on track to be my biggest song in my career. Really? Almost didn't make the album. Yeah, you've experienced that it's just like I had no idea and I was like, okay Like it could have never guess [01:11:01] Craig Carton: That's why I always ask you a wonder like do you know like you're the the greatest rapper of all time But do you that it's gonna be a hit? [01:11:09] Lil Wayne: Not at all, not at all. You know, you can fall in love with it and also those around you can, you know, they can scream and yell and tell you what it is, but you'll never know what it is until the public accepts it, you know. [01:11:22] Jutes: Sometimes you want it to be wanted But some I'm like this is the one for sure and then I'm, like, yeah, it's doing okay, but I'm [01:11:32] Craig Carton: That's why you guys must have to have like you guys could be surrounded by yes, man. You need someone in that suit to go [01:11:38] Jutes: Exactly. [01:11:39] Craig Carton: Right, you might get pissed at him. [01:11:41] Jutes: There was multiple people that agreed with me that like maybe this shouldn't be on the album and then my wife and the producer They were both like it's the best song on the Alman. I was like I trust you both [01:11:52] Craig Carton: I didn't want to bring up your wife, but you did yeah, your wife does have a pretty good ear for music You married Demi Lovato. So that's a pretty Good sounding board to have right? [01:11:59] Jutes: Board to have right that's not so that's why I came out like oh, yeah, you've been right before so I should probably You got a bit of an ear [01:12:07] Craig Carton: She's like, release the one when you serenaded me, that kind of thing. [01:12:11] Jutes: Yeah, how'd you guys meet? Writing I was on my songwriter stuff Which it was weird because I didn't know she was doing a rock album and so when I got asked to go Write for her. I was like, whoa Why am I being asked to write with but the producers had worked with me on some rock stuff and then I showed up at the studio and She was like yeah I'm doing a Rock record and we wrote the single for her album the first time we ever met Really? We just like clicked. Yeah [01:12:40] Craig Carton: So when you go in there, you're you know, you know you're writing for a pop star, right? You know, that's gonna be one of the [01:12:45] Jutes: One of the best singers to ever do it, so I'm like, how? [01:12:47] Craig Carton: So I'm like how the fuck am I like bro? Yeah, and then next thing you know bang I do [01:12:54] Jutes: Yeah! He's a gymnast, ain't no bad. Yeah, yeah. [01:12:57] Craig Carton: No, it's a great love story, man. [01:12:59] Jutes: I'm stoked that's how we met because it is a good story you know it's like us doing what we love especially y'all about to see us [01:13:04] Lil Wayne: Let's see how right is connection. [01:13:06] Jutes: Yeah, it was just like we we connected like our vibes disconnected But then like to to be able to create something together exactly the day we met like we have a song from the day We met that is a single from one of our albums that like we live forever and we're like, that's that's cool We didn't know each other when we made that song, you know [01:13:22] Craig Carton: If you ever have kids, that would be a great story. Guess how mommy and dad, because you won't be cool to your kids. [01:13:27] Jutes: Right. [01:13:27] Craig Carton: We all are nuts, right? We think we're the coolest thing out. Your kids remind you very quickly. Not like as cool as you might be. [01:13:33] Jutes: You're not that cool. [01:13:35] Craig Carton: Trust me, I got four, Wayne's got kids, beautiful children, he ain't that cool. I find until they need something, or want something, all of a sudden daddy's got it. You're the coolest. Exactly right. When you first came in, I was like, man, he looks athletic. [01:13:51] Jutes: I did used to play basketball. [01:13:54] Craig Carton: See, your publicist said, yeah, he loves basketball. I go, oh, he ain't playing no basketball. [01:13:58] Jutes: I was all in on basketball. Music is like a thing I found later in life. I was like, I want to go to the NBA. So I played a little bit. I was in Canada. I played it a little in college, but it was like at the end of high school was kind of when I was, like, I don't know if the physical thing is my thing. One injury and I'm done. [01:14:22] Craig Carton: Are you soft? Respectfully? [01:14:25] Jutes: I was very skilled, and in Canada, there's something in the water here in the US. I was in like high school, and I would come, in like grade 9, I would come to America and there would be like 6-10 dudes just like windmilling on us, and I was like, what the fuck am I supposed to do with this? But I was good, I was good, and you know I was taking it really serious, but I've always been kind of and art. An art guy at heart. [01:14:55] Craig Carton: Yeah, so that's like in high school that those two worlds can kind of collide, right? Yeah Always win, right [01:15:01] Jutes: All right, it's going to always win. [01:15:03] Craig Carton: Because you get the girls. [01:15:05] Jutes: Where i so i grew up on like a farm i wish i could sing wayne see there wasn't really music at my school it's like a country like country music was the only kind of music that anyone [01:15:13] Craig Carton: Where in Canada were you growing up? [01:15:15] Jutes: I grew up in Ottawa, but it was like people would drive tractors to school. Come on. [01:15:21] Lil Wayne: No, no, I've heard about that. Yeah? Yeah, even for like, for a prom, it might be all attractors. It's that vibe. Yeah, for real. I've seen that. Really? [01:15:29] Jutes: So football you were cool rugby. You were cool wrestling was really bad man. So like physical ass Yeah, like yeah, were you thin in high school? Kinda Kind of what I like what I [01:15:43] Craig Carton: You're like, I ain't playing football, I can't drive a tractor trailer, I'm gonna sing. [01:15:49] Jutes: Yeah, and then the singing chick came way later. I was trying to rap first and then [01:15:54] Lil Wayne: What age did you like start singing and made it for real? [01:15:59] Jutes: Um, it was during a call first year of college. I went to college for film. So I was like I'm gonna make movies Yeah, I was I'm going to go make film and figure that out and then I got there and was like I just don't fucking like school no matter what I'm doing, even if it's something cool So then I started just like rapping in my in my dorm room and you know, yeah like finding I mean I couldn't sing I'd never tried singing and I was just like Finding beats on YouTube and just like making songs in garage band by myself Um, just like send to friends So how'd you learn how to stretch your voice? Moving to L.A. Helped because I lived in like a shitty apartment in Toronto with really thin walls So a lot of my early songs were like me kind of like whispering because they would be like shut the fuck up And then I come to LA and I'm like, oh I can go into studios and I can be loud and like I can kind of Sound crazy and and see and I just found out that I kind of Found out. Yeah Come on. I mean I never really tried to say like that because I tried to you. Yeah, I didn't even consider it [01:17:04] Craig Carton: But the first time you tried to sing were you because you're pretty aggressive on stage. I wasn't good But fair enough, but were you singing like were you doing like Motown songs ballads or did you come out of the gate? Like you're an aggressive singer [01:17:17] Jutes: Right, it was, no I was trying to go for like, catchy hooks and like, rap the verses, sing the hooks, and like auto-tune honestly is what gave me the confidence to like, start trying to sing. Told you. I'm gonna be a pop star, watch. I was like. [01:17:32] Craig Carton: Like, Oh, okay. Do not show away. [01:17:35] Lil Wayne: I'm gonna get that national anthem. [01:17:38] Craig Carton: Imagine me doing the National Anthem, I'd be the worst. [01:17:41] Lil Wayne: I'm gonna get here [01:17:42] Craig Carton: I couldn't be more tone deaf. Like I would break autotune, it would be that bad. [01:17:48] Jutes: The only one to break autotunes. T-Pain would sue me. [01:17:51] Craig Carton: Like man you ruin the whole thing [01:17:53] Lil Wayne: Thank you for paying us a lot. All right, so, so you... [01:17:55] Craig Carton: So you've come out to California with just no money in your pocket and a dream? Yeah, the dream wasn't what it turned out to be, right? [01:18:04] Jutes: It was just, I wanted to do something artistic. I want, well, no, I was doing music and I got a visa to come move here for music. I was getting calls from labels when I was living in Toronto, but it was like- [01:18:16] Lil Wayne: Canada here. [01:18:17] Jutes: No here. Yeah, I was getting I was giving calls from them So I was like, all right, there's interest like this could happen So I just like kind of like threw a hail Mary and I was a you wing it just like yeah Let's go and and I moved downtown in Little Tokyo lived on my friend's pullout couch in his living room and Then within the first year of living in LA. I got a record deal at Capitol Records and then That was like a couple years and then It was and then I was like, I want to make rock music and then they were like That's not what we saw that's not quite what we yeah We didn't really want to see rock music rock lake. I guess is making more of a comeback now, but that's what's in your soul [01:18:59] Craig Carton: Yeah, that's what I grew up on, that you can't fake that if that's what you want to play. Like, when I started listening to your stuff, I heard, like, Radiohead in my head. [01:19:07] Jutes: Love Radiohead. [01:19:07] Craig Carton: Link early Lincoln Park. Yeah, even I know it's a female singer, but Evanescence Yeah, you have that kind of vibe because I I wasn't familiar with a lot of your stuff I know I started watching and I'm like he's got that early. I don't say grunge, but like that. Yeah [01:19:20] Lil Wayne: Yeah, I love that. So how'd you make the switch over with capital and all that what they do? [01:19:25] Jutes: That was kind of, I mean, COVID hit and they were like, hey, we don't know what's going on. And then I was like, well, I kind of want to figure it out. Yeah, and so I went independent. I started putting on a song every week. One song a week. Yeah, I started dropping a song a week. You have to be consistent. I just was spamming. Yeah, because I was just like, let me get some money, let me get some like momentum. Pay for the futon. Yeah, figure it out, like, make ends meet. Yo, Rama's [01:19:49] Craig Carton: Yo, ramen's expensive, you guys don't think it is. It is now. When the needles get up, it can catch up to you. I lived in a retirement home in Buffalo, New York, making 12,000 bucks a year, sleeping with heavy women to keep me warm in the winter, which is what you get in Buffalo because Jim Kelly was banging all the good-looking ones, so I had to settle for the ugly fat ones. I love Jim Kelly. And I love Jimmy Kelly, take me to Jim Kelly's story. He and his brothers go to the Super Bowl every year, and they're all wild, crazy guys, and great guys. He's like, yo, Carton, you gotta come, we're going to this Irish pub, it's down for a Super Bowl. He goes, there's a big party. I'm like, all right, Jim, I'll show up. So I go into the Irish pub. It's like a crazy sound coming out of the back. And there's like an outdoor patio out back. And I go in and there's Jim Kelly with a dwarf. And he's throwing the dwarf up against a Velcro wall. Whoa. And I'm, like, he goes, Treggie, your turn. I'm throwing a fucking dwarf against a wall. I'm not doing it, Jim. [01:20:43] Lil Wayne: I like the belt when it gets stuck. [01:20:46] Craig Carton: Yeah, just like, dwarfs stuck to the wall! Yeah, that's lovely. [01:20:48] Lil Wayne: Yeah, I'm clubbed, that was, man. That was crazy. That was insane. [01:20:55] Craig Carton: Yeah, that's Jim Kelly's brothers, they're crazy, man. And back then, before he got sick and all, like, you could not drink them either. Like four dudes, Jim's size, all bigger than the next. [01:21:04] Lil Wayne: Actually, he was trying to dwarf up against the law. [01:21:08] Craig Carton: And there was a bullseye on the wall, and he was like, touchdown. Where was this? This was down in a Super Bowl. [01:21:15] Lil Wayne: In Tampa. It was in Tampa? Yeah. Oh, so he didn't even, he bought that shit to Tampa. Yeah, he imported drawers. [01:21:24] Craig Carton: I think I'll make money, man, right? [01:21:26] Lil Wayne: You gotta make money so you can make some of that. [01:21:29] Craig Carton: I want to talk to you about your process in writing. You've been very open about being an alcoholic and having trouble with booze. And I love the fact you're open about it, because you're helping people. Look, I'm a compulsive gambler, I'm eight and a half years in recovery. When I tell my story, I know it helps people. When you, did it change how you write? Like when you look back on the songs you wrote when you were drinking, do you sense it's a different dude writing them? [01:21:57] Jutes: Kinda it's like everything for me felt like I mean, I think I thought it was better than it was because I was drunk, right? But I just think I'm sharper now without it like Nothing was like I couldn't just like drink a little bit So it just be like you get to a certain level of like drinking that it's nothing you do is gonna be like that Great, you know what I mean? So I think everything suffered and it was also like a motivation thing like drinking that much, it's like I didn't want to. It made me not want to make as much music as I, you know, would want to make. [01:22:31] Craig Carton: Did you get to a point in drinking where the bottle was more important than anything else? [01:22:36] Jutes: That's my thing is like I just I'm pretty openly. I'm like, I love to get drunk so much like I it was such a big part of my life that like it did come before anything and that's why I'm like I don't know if there will ever be a time where I'll get to a place where I'm like, okay, I feel like I can do this responsibly. [01:22:56] Craig Carton: We have like a glass of wine kind of thing. [01:22:58] Jutes: But I'm just like, I know me and I know like one, I would just be like, another would be even better and then another would even better. And then it's like, I don't get anything done. My life is so good right now. Yeah. [01:23:09] Craig Carton: Knock on wood. [01:23:09] Jutes: You know yeah, I got married and and the music's going well, and just like I'm just like. I would be crazy to Mess that up by you know introducing something that never ever helped me like it only hurts [01:23:23] Craig Carton: So silly question, why did you stop? Was there like a bottom of the barrel moment where this one night you were full tilt? [01:23:31] Jutes: I would say that my wife was like inspired me in a way where she never like said anything and I never would drink with her but when I met her I was like whoa she does this like she's just like sober and and going through life and I was like well I'm not about to drink around her and so the more we spent time together the more I was I don't want to be yeah, and I'm like I would I would go on like trips or whatever and drink and they even just like messaging her and stuff, like I was just like, I don't want to be that guy. I care about her a lot and I don't want to like bring that around her. And so that was kind of what helped me, you know, figure it out and be like, no, I gotta, I genuinely don't know if I would have like gotten where I got, if it wasn't for her in that sense. Like it's tough when there's no one to like change for. I know you're supposed to do it for yourself. No, I get it. And I do it myself. Maybe [01:24:30] Craig Carton: But maybe this this higher power that put her in your world for a reason. Yeah, maybe you and hers [01:24:36] Jutes: And I think that we're definitely grateful you exactly. Yeah. Yeah well, I think we're both just like really good influences on each other and and want each other to be healthy and and happy and [01:24:49] Craig Carton: You're happy. [01:24:50] Jutes: Yeah yeah i mean you know i think that's great [01:24:52] Craig Carton: There's a there's a crazy rumor out there and I'm not buying it that you still like to play ball and every now and then you'll see [01:24:58] Lil Wayne: I'm not [01:24:59] Craig Carton: It's just hard to buy that a thin rock star is gonna show up at some public court and actually yo win a game We're crazy, so fuck this Do you play ball at all? Yeah, that's right. We should play anytime you want and what dream was this what happened? Wayne disrespects my athletic ability all the time [01:25:20] Lil Wayne: on this show. All the time. Well, I just didn't know you play ball. That's right. [01:25:26] Jutes: Yeah, do you play ball like? I'll be both of you. [01:25:31] Lil Wayne: I've never seen that play, but oh, I don't know. [01:25:34] Craig Carton: Now, the only thing Wayne and I are gonna compete in, we both like to bowl. We have discussed that, that we're gonna go bowling at some point. [01:25:40] Jutes: See I'm really bad at bowling, but the last time I went bowling I was like lights out like couldn't lights out Like just like every time it was what strikes out. He wants a number. What's lights out? What was your school? Oh, I don't even know but strike every night like in time. That's not you. Okay. You're really you're a real bowler I have my wings bang Well, I left on a high note so I don't I don't know anything about It was like Comical how well I was doing and then I haven't bold since I was just like I need to kind of I like when you get serious, man. [01:26:14] Lil Wayne: I love when you seriously like... Mookie Betts. Shout out Mookie. He's like a pro. Shout out, Mookie, he's beyond the pro. Mookie count how many times he's bowed to 300. So it's more than one. It was at 33 last time I checked. He called me live, FaceTime, on his last frame showing me, watch. And knocking down? That's 33. Perfect. [01:26:41] Craig Carton: That's a strike in every frame of three in the 10th. So I guess that's lights out. I would be. [01:26:44] Lil Wayne: He's a beast. He make his own ball before he even go bowling like he got this thing where he just put his hand in and the ball starts forming around his hand and shit. Okay. [01:26:55] Craig Carton: I hope you broke a hundred, man. [01:26:58] Jutes: My friend my friend has his own ball and it smells like strawberries. Is that a thing? [01:27:06] Lil Wayne: To do that, yeah. [01:27:07] Craig Carton: I didn't know that was a thing. Wayne doesn't want to brag, but he has his own golden ball now. No, I don't. Yes, you do. It's green sense to you. I told you that. Yeah, lucky strikes. [01:27:15] Lil Wayne: I ain't, yes I do, I ain't know you knew about all that. [01:27:19] Craig Carton: I made it happen! [01:27:20] Lil Wayne: I know, I appreciate it. They just sent me the white one with the X on it. Oh, is that the one? Yeah. [01:27:26] Craig Carton: Yeah. [01:27:26] Lil Wayne: What and it came with a gold card. Yeah, yeah lucky lucky stripe. Yeah [01:27:30] Craig Carton: That's right. You can bowl anywhere at Lucky Strikes for free for the rest of your life. [01:27:34] Lil Wayne: I appreciate that. Do you bowl in different cities everywhere you go? Yeah, whenever we get a chance. Nice. [01:27:39] Craig Carton: Before I let you go, I always wonder, you guys are tatted up. Is there one tat that means more to you than another one? Like was it like a spur of the moment thing or is there a story behind every piece of ink? [01:27:52] Jutes: There's not a story behind every one. I have my mom tattooed here, which is obviously going to mean a lot. My wife, no, she just was my album cover, and I got the tattoo. And then my wife did one on my leg that says forever for me. It's a song she wrote for me, and I got her to tattoo it on me. That's the story. [01:28:13] Craig Carton: She actually did the tattooing. [01:28:15] Jutes: Yeah, yeah, in the green room of one of her shows. [01:28:19] Lil Wayne: In the green room of one of her shows. You know what's crazy? I didn't do the tattoo. I wrote it on her skin and she got it tattooed of it was in the greenroom. That's what made me think of it. It was in the Green Room of Saturday Night Live. No way. She wanted to get it was a line I said about being a Libra when sins and forgiveness And so she had the Libra scale, and I wrote The Sins and Forgiveness. It was a baby girl who came and sung my hook for me. Because I ain't had nobody to sing the hook, and she was just in the area type shit. The real shit, she was like in the are, just came through, sang the hook for me and was like, hey, you know, I really love Sins of Forgivness, the Libre line. I have my tattoo artist, he's with me. Is it okay if you just, wait, what? You just wrote it and the guy did it? Yes, right there in the green room, like you said. That's cool. [01:29:19] Craig Carton: Geez, I gotta be honest with you, on my quad here, I have real geez moving silence like lasagna. You're a damn liar. No, no, but Mike, we're running out of space, so it's not done yet, but. That's so stupid, that dude's crazy, we have to get it. No, I don't have to, yeah, if I want to get divorced, I'm gonna get it, sure. Hey, honey, guess what? I got a tattoo on my thigh. Anyhow, before we let you go, where can people check you out next? And tell people the latest song that came out so we can make sure everybody downloads it and takes care of it and makes you the rock star that you're destined to be. [01:29:54] Jutes: Um, you can check me out anywhere if you search Jutes, J-U-T-E-S, uh, I'm going to Australia in February. Never been there, so hopefully I see a bunch of fans there. You gotta eat some kangaroo when you go there. Yeah, that's all I'm gonna eat. For sure. No fucking kangaroo, no. Yeah, kangaroo. [01:30:11] Lil Wayne: A box one, though. Dude, they'll fucking love it. I know, they will fucking love them. I'll buy you a damn thing for you to be eatin' the cake when you get the cake real low. [01:30:18] Craig Carton: Or a koala bear or something. [01:30:19] Lil Wayne: Is that even legal there? [01:30:21] Craig Carton: What are they going to get you in America? He's crazy. What are you going to keep you in Australia for the rest of your life? You're crazy. So stupid, man. Anyhow, pleasure meeting you. Likewise. Thanks for having me. And best of luck to you. Thanks so much. Jukes, everybody. JukES. That was great. Awesome. [01:30:37] Jutes: Great to meet you. Great. [01:30:39] Lil Wayne: Congrats on everything, man. For real, for real.