Latest / Brian Thomas / Brian talks with State Rep. Adam Bird
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The talk station.
- 0:02Speaker 2: 829 55 kcd talk station happy monday so pleased to
- 0:05Speaker 2: welcome to the 55 kc morning show and thank you
- 0:07Speaker 2: to the voters in ohio's 63rd district which is uh
- 0:11Speaker 2: well is that claremont and brown county's least part of
- 0:14Speaker 2: for re-electing adam bird as your representative defeating the democratic
- 0:18Speaker 2: challenger at least we got adam back and adam's joined
- 0:20Speaker 2: the program today to talk about the aftermath it is
- 0:22Speaker 2: good to have you on representative bird welcome.
- 0:26Speaker 1: Brian, thank you so much.
- 0:27Speaker 3: It's an honor to be with you, and I definitely
- 0:29Speaker 3: am thankful for the support of District 63 in light
- 0:32Speaker 3: of the difficult election night results that.
- 0:35Speaker 1: We just experienced.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Difficult is a good word for that one. Still reeling
- 0:39Speaker 2: over at Datum, but we'll get through it as we
- 0:41Speaker 2: always do. Now, Ohio requires a three-fifths vote. to override
- 0:44Speaker 2: a governor veto, also to refer constitutional amendments to the ballot.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Republicans went in with a veto-approved supermajority in both chambers,
- 0:51Speaker 2: and then Andrew, last week, where Democrats flipped enough of
- 0:53Speaker 2: the House seats to drop Republicans below 60, which they
- 0:55Speaker 2: need to have the supermajority. The Senate's okay, but in
- 0:59Speaker 2: the remaining time, we're in this lame duck session when
- 1:02Speaker 2: you can override a governor veto. DeWine, not exactly the
- 1:07Speaker 2: most conservative Republican out there, so what is on your
- 1:11Speaker 2: short list of Representative Byrd, to get accomplished before the
- 1:15Speaker 2: supermajority goes away.
- 1:18Speaker 3: Well, I want to point out to you, Brian, that yes,
- 1:21Speaker 3: we do have a supermajority right now of 65 members.
- 1:25Speaker 1: We need 60 votes to override a veto.
- 1:28Speaker 3: But despite that number, we still have some members of
- 1:33Speaker 3: our caucus who are hesitant to override a governor. They're
- 1:37Speaker 3: hesitant to— they' re.
- 1:39Speaker 1: More moderate in their leanings than many others of us.
- 1:42Speaker 3: And so we will still have some challenges to get
- 1:46Speaker 3: to that number 60 if we put something in front
- 1:49Speaker 3: of Governor DeWine that he vetoes. Now, you ask about
- 1:54Speaker 3: what priorities there should be. I will tell you what's
- 1:56Speaker 3: on my list. data centers, number one, must be dealt
- 2:00Speaker 3: with and they should be dealt with real soon. And
- 2:03Speaker 3: when it comes to data centers, I think that it's
- 2:06Speaker 3: very easy for me. There has to be local control.
- 2:09Speaker 3: There cannot be nondisclosure agreements. There must be water and
- 2:16Speaker 3: water discharge must be taken care of. We cannot hurt
- 2:19Speaker 3: the environment over this. We cannot make the residents of
- 2:23Speaker 3: that community pay extra. for electricity, so they must make
- 2:28Speaker 3: their own electricity. There needs to be some common sense
- 2:31Speaker 3: to these issues. And so I think the other reasonable thing,
- 2:35Speaker 3: I don't know how you put it in legislation, data
- 2:37Speaker 3: centers should go in brownfield sites to the extent possible
- 2:42Speaker 3: and not using brand new land, virgin farmland, those kinds
- 2:47Speaker 3: of things.
- 2:48Speaker 1: That's a very easy issue.
- 2:50Speaker 3: The other issue that we might look at would be
- 2:53Speaker 3: executive appointments. What kinds of executive appointments are we going
- 2:57Speaker 3: to allow the governor to have? And then finally, property
- 3:00Speaker 3: tax is something that still is an issue that is
- 3:04Speaker 3: plaguing Ohio, not income tax. It's property tax that is
- 3:09Speaker 3: plaguing Ohio and has gotten out of control.
- 3:11Speaker 1: We got to do something about that.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Well, you know, you ran through the litany on data centers.
- 3:15Speaker 2: It sounded exactly like the campaign that Vivek Ramaswamy ran on.
- 3:18Speaker 2: I mean, he said all of the above on that.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Bring your own power. Deal with the water issues. Make
- 3:22Speaker 2: sure the noise is in control. Let local governments have
- 3:25Speaker 2: measured control over this. That wasn't embraced by the Ohio voters,
- 3:29Speaker 2: sadly enough. I don't know where Amy Acton is on this,
- 3:31Speaker 2: but can you really hope to get something passed by
- 3:34Speaker 2: way of legislation that addresses any of this before the
- 3:37Speaker 2: top of the year? Or do you think there's really
- 3:39Speaker 2: going to be any opposition among your Democratic colleagues, growing number,
- 3:42Speaker 2: but still in a minority in Columbus, that they too
- 3:45Speaker 2: would push for a lot of these data center issues
- 3:48Speaker 2: to move forward? Because it sounds to me like a
- 3:49Speaker 2: lot of things that they advanced as well by way
- 3:51Speaker 2: of proposals.
- 3:54Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you that we did not advance
- 3:57Speaker 3: data center legislation in the previous six months because there
- 4:01Speaker 3: was some disagreement over property tax breaks.
- 4:04Speaker 1: And by the way, I forgot to mention that issue.
- 4:06Speaker 3: And there were some members of the Senate that were
- 4:09Speaker 3: in favor of data center breaks for data centers. And
- 4:15Speaker 3: and the House, we stood firm on the issue. You know,
- 4:18Speaker 3: a multibillion dollar corporation does not need a data, a
- 4:22Speaker 3: property tax break. And if you give if you don't
- 4:24Speaker 3: give them a property tax break, they're still going to
- 4:27Speaker 3: come anyway. So that has got to be in any
- 4:31Speaker 3: legislation that we might pass.
- 4:33Speaker 2: Well, in the final four, we will do this one
- 4:35Speaker 2: more issue on data centers and we'll take a break
- 4:37Speaker 2: and come back with property tax. And some of the
- 4:39Speaker 2: other ones are on my mind. Bringing one's own electricity
- 4:42Speaker 2: or ensuring that the local residents don't pay more because
- 4:45Speaker 2: of the massive power consumption they have. How can we
- 4:48Speaker 2: do that as a state? My understanding, like, again, going
- 4:50Speaker 2: back to small modular reactors, it's going to require really
- 4:53Speaker 2: intense federal government cooperation. Can we even deliver on that
- 4:57Speaker 2: mandate for them to, quote, unquote, bring their own power?
- 5:02Speaker 3: Well, we've been elected to serve the public, and that's
- 5:05Speaker 3: what we've got to do. And we've got to find
- 5:08Speaker 3: answers to that question. And I think that's the only
- 5:12Speaker 3: way possible forward. We cannot increase people's electrical bill because
- 5:17Speaker 3: of data centers. And I don't care what the federal
- 5:20Speaker 3: government wants. I don't care about whatever we're scared of
- 5:23Speaker 3: the Chinese. We are not going to force data centers
- 5:27Speaker 3: on people. rural Ohio or any Ohioan unless.
- 5:30Speaker 1: They want it.
- 5:31Speaker 3: And if they're going, you know, the data center should
- 5:33Speaker 3: be forced to come in and say, this is what
- 5:36Speaker 3: we're going to offer the local community. We're going to
- 5:38Speaker 3: build you this. We're going to do that. We're going to,
- 5:41Speaker 3: we're going to help offset local property taxes. They should
- 5:44Speaker 3: be offering the local something in order for them to
- 5:47Speaker 3: come into that community.
- 5:48Speaker 2: Yeah, put them in a position of advancing their role
- 5:50Speaker 2: and their position, and it caused them to require them
- 5:52Speaker 2: to negotiate with the locals and come up with terms
- 5:55Speaker 2: and conditions that are acceptable to both. This is the
- 5:56Speaker 2: kind of thing that happens all the time. Makes perfect sense.
- 5:59Speaker 2: State Representative Adam Burt, let's pause. We'll bring you back.
- 6:01Speaker 2: We'll talk about some of the other pieces of legislation
- 6:04Speaker 2: we might see in the short term here in Ohio.
- 6:06Speaker 2: It's 835 right now, 55KRC, the talk station. This is 55KRC,
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- 6:17Speaker 2: Got a couple more minutes here with State Representative Adam Byrd.
- 6:20Speaker 2: Kind enough to come on the morning show and talk
- 6:22Speaker 2: about what might happen in the short term. And I
- 6:24Speaker 2: know you've got a meeting coming up, State Representative Byrd.
- 6:26Speaker 2: So let me get real quick here. Well, lots of
- 6:28Speaker 2: my listeners, big Second Amendment fans we are with the
- 6:31Speaker 2: federal government no longer collecting a tax when you purchase
- 6:33Speaker 2: a suppressor, a short barrel rifle. Courts determined that not
- 6:36Speaker 2: collecting the tax renders that bill, well, just no longer enforceable.
- 6:40Speaker 2: But we still have state laws in Ohio that deem suppressors,
- 6:44Speaker 2: for example, dangerous ordinance. Senate Bill 214 says remove that,
- 6:48Speaker 2: and it passed in March 31 to 1 in the Senate.
- 6:53Speaker 2: It hasn't been voted on yet in the House, to
- 6:54Speaker 2: the best of my knowledge. Is that one that might advance?
- 6:58Speaker 3: That's a priority for us, Brian. I believe that we'll
- 7:01Speaker 3: get that done. We'll get it done quickly. It's still
- 7:03Speaker 3: in a committee in the House, but I think it's
- 7:06Speaker 3: going to make it, and I hope that it makes
- 7:08Speaker 3: it quickly.
- 7:09Speaker 2: Your tea leaf reading on Governor DeWine's reception of that thing,
- 7:12Speaker 2: if it does pass in the House?
- 7:14Speaker 3: Well, I mean, when you see how overwhelmingly the Senate
- 7:18Speaker 3: voted for that, just about every Democrat voted for it.
- 7:23Speaker 3: So I don't think that Governor DeWine would say no
- 7:27Speaker 3: to that with overwhelming support.
- 7:29Speaker 2: Well, since the Senate removed the short barrel rifle component
- 7:32Speaker 2: from it and just left the suppressor component... Would it
- 7:35Speaker 2: be possible that the House would change that to put
- 7:37Speaker 2: back in SBRs or they just do it as a
- 7:39Speaker 2: standalone previously passed by the Senate bill?
- 7:43Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 7:44Speaker 3: We haven't had a conversation about that. But, you know,
- 7:47Speaker 3: I'm okay with adding it back in. We want to
- 7:49Speaker 3: protect the Second Amendment. And, you know, I'm not worried
- 7:54Speaker 3: about what Governor DeWine thinks. We should do what is
- 7:57Speaker 3: in the best interest of Ohioans. We should protect the
- 7:59Speaker 3: interests of conservatives and Second Amendment.
- 8:02Speaker 1: And so we need to get it done.
- 8:04Speaker 3: And if Mike DeWine vetoes it, it's on him.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Does he still have does he still wield power? I mean,
- 8:10Speaker 2: you just got done saying, I don't care what Mike
- 8:12Speaker 2: DeWine thinks about it, but are there politicians in Columbus
- 8:15Speaker 2: that are concerned about the reputation in the mind of
- 8:18Speaker 2: Mike DeWine going forward?
- 8:21Speaker 1: No, I don't think so.
- 8:22Speaker 3: But I think the point of that statement from me
- 8:25Speaker 3: was before the election, we were wanting to protect a
- 8:30Speaker 3: Republican governor and not embarrass him too much in front
- 8:34Speaker 3: of an election. And now that the election is over,
- 8:37Speaker 3: there's no need to do that anymore. And we should
- 8:41Speaker 3: move forward in whatever is the best interest of Ohio.
- 8:44Speaker 3: All right.
- 8:44Speaker 2: One of the things you brought up was property tax.
- 8:46Speaker 2: And I know Ramaswamy ran on property taxes. I can't
- 8:49Speaker 2: remember if Acton had anything to say about it, but
- 8:52Speaker 2: he wanted to at least roll back property taxes to
- 8:53Speaker 2: their 2019 pre-COVID level. Is there any legislation that's out
- 8:57Speaker 2: there pending that might bring some property tax relief before
- 9:01Speaker 2: the supermajority or is it coming in the next year?
- 9:03Speaker 2: I mean, are even Democrats interested in providing some property
- 9:06Speaker 2: tax relief?
- 9:08Speaker 3: Well, we passed four or five bills in the last
- 9:11Speaker 3: year that reformed property taxes around the edges. We didn't
- 9:16Speaker 3: make major change. Again, the governor would not have signed
- 9:19Speaker 3: off on anything major. But remember that in order for
- 9:23Speaker 3: us to provide any major change on property taxes, we've
- 9:26Speaker 3: got to find another way to provide revenue to your sheriff,
- 9:30Speaker 3: your police, your fire, your schools. Those kinds of things
- 9:34Speaker 3: would be detrimentally affected by you know, dramatically reforming property
- 9:40Speaker 3: taxes the way they need to be reformed. And so
- 9:43Speaker 3: that means we're going to have to be creative. Do
- 9:45Speaker 3: we add a little bit of sales tax? Do we
- 9:49Speaker 3: income tax? I never hear anybody, Brian, complain about income tax,
- 9:53Speaker 3: because when you do your income tax, right after you've
- 9:56Speaker 3: done your federal income tax, you think, wow, Ohio's.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Doing a great job on that.
- 9:59Speaker 3: So finding other ways to keep your sheriff, your police,
- 10:04Speaker 3: your fire, your EMT, your school, public schools going, I
- 10:07Speaker 3: think we've got to find creative ways to make sure
- 10:11Speaker 3: that those are still funded at the same time that
- 10:13Speaker 3: we're providing relief to property taxpayers that are out of
- 10:17Speaker 3: control right now. And it's really a property valuation issue.
- 10:21Speaker 3: The property values have dramatically climbed.
- 10:24Speaker 2: Well, I couldn't agree with you more on that last statement.
- 10:27Speaker 2: But are we not still facing what I will view
- 10:31Speaker 2: as a rather challenging reality if we all vote for
- 10:34Speaker 2: elimination of property tax to a ballot initiative? I mean,
- 10:37Speaker 2: that's still out there as a thing, isn't it?
- 10:40Speaker 1: Definitely.
- 10:40Speaker 3: And I don't think it's going anywhere. And I think
- 10:43Speaker 3: that the people who want to see property taxes abolished,
- 10:46Speaker 3: they're going to keep working. And I think that when
- 10:49Speaker 3: Democrats become in power and the executive branch, I think
- 10:55Speaker 3: that that will just encourage those who are opposed to
- 10:59Speaker 3: property taxes to keep collecting signatures.
- 11:01Speaker 1: I think it's going to move. And I wouldn't be
- 11:04Speaker 1: surprised if it's on the ballot.
- 11:05Speaker 3: So, you know, we're going to keep doing what's in
- 11:08Speaker 3: our best interest for what I think is Ohioans, which
- 11:12Speaker 3: is to bring property tax relief. But if they get
- 11:15Speaker 3: that to the ballot and eliminate them all, we will
- 11:19Speaker 3: certainly have an emergency on our hands and we will
- 11:21Speaker 3: have to be creative about in the midst of an
- 11:25Speaker 3: emergency like that in a variety of ways so that
- 11:28Speaker 3: we don't lose police, fire, public schools, libraries, parks, all
- 11:32Speaker 3: of these things that are currently funded by property tax.
- 11:35Speaker 2: Well, it seems to me to suggest if something like
- 11:39Speaker 2: that happens, the train wreck that's unfolding actually happens. Property
- 11:42Speaker 2: taxes are eliminated. You're left with this need to be
- 11:46Speaker 2: creative to come up with a solution in the aftermath
- 11:48Speaker 2: of that, that that's going to force some bipartisan cooperation.
- 11:54Speaker 1: Well, you know, it would be an emergency.
- 11:55Speaker 3: There's no doubt because if that's on the ballot in
- 11:57Speaker 3: November of 27, the way that currently reads, we would
- 12:02Speaker 3: have to have a solution by January of 28. And
- 12:05Speaker 3: so you've got less than two months to figure it out.
- 12:10Speaker 1: And it would bring.
- 12:11Speaker 3: The crisis to Ohio that would be necessary to bring
- 12:14Speaker 3: some real creative solutions to the issue.
- 12:16Speaker 2: Well, the clock's ticking. You got about a year. State
- 12:19Speaker 2: Representative Adam Burge, if you sit down and start talking
- 12:23Speaker 2: about it, because I I really do see that wave coming.
- 12:25Speaker 2: I think people are angry enough that they would say,
- 12:27Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to roll the dice. I'm
- 12:28Speaker 2: done with property tax. Let's see how our elected officials
- 12:31Speaker 2: deal with the aftermath.
- 12:34Speaker 1: We certainly know what anger looks like. We saw it
- 12:36Speaker 1: this week. Isn't that true? Especially at the federal.
- 12:39Speaker 3: Level, we don't do what we said we would do
- 12:42Speaker 3: by ending foreign wars and by taking care of America first.
- 12:45Speaker 3: And the federal government was more outwardly focused on whatever's
- 12:49Speaker 3: happening in Ukraine and China and Taiwan and Iran. I mean,
- 12:54Speaker 3: when we get focused outside of America, we see what
- 12:59Speaker 3: anger does, and we're definitely affected by that.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Without question. State Representative Adam Bird, it's been a real
- 13:04Speaker 2: pleasure having you on, offering your thoughts and comments as we, well,
- 13:07Speaker 2: deal with.