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Sister Wives S6 E6 - Robyn's Secret · My Sister Wives Podcast

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What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
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Goodbye. You.
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Shut it off. Do not twist my words.
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Do not make me a victim, sweetie.
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Just look at the mountain. That's what you saw that day.
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Just the knife in the kidneys over all these years and the
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sacrifices that I made to love
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I'm going to let you in on a little secret.
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Robyn's Secret Season 6 Episode 6 A Tale is old as time song is
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old as rhyme. Robyn's secret episode.
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It's Robyn's secret, everyone.
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waiting for, where we get a lovely speech from Robyn in the
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family room at church. We're about to get a lesson in
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internalized misogyny. Absolutely.
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Ordinarily we don't talk about
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because it's just summarizing shit we've already talked too
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much about. But in this episode, I thought
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it was worth pointing out because there's new footage that
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we haven't seen before, which is
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adults talk about needing to figure out their new
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relationships again now that they're at the Brown family
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cul-de-sac. They're teeing up that now that
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they're in the homes, they're in
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And the second part of the coming up on was another
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reminder about Meri's baby decision, which we have avoided
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for a little while, thank God,
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That story's back. It's rear in its ugly head
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again. It absolutely is.
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So when the episode opens, there's this exterior shot of
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the cul-de-sac in the different homes and the music that's
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playing is so modern for this show.
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It's the first episode where there's this music playing and
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it's like Doo, Doo, Doo, Doo, Doo, Doo, Doo Doo.
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It's the lame version of what reality shows will be playing
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today instead of the all music
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the show. That's very kind of, oh, in the
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lower bottom of the free music
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where they maybe started paying for a royalty or something Like
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it's, it's a whole new vibe, which is exciting because now
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we're at the Brown family cul-de-sac.
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First thing first, we're going
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This comes out of nowhere. We've been in the houses.
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Just a little hot minute here and got to bury a time capsule.
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They just always have to decide to do weird shit.
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Have you ever buried a time capsule in your own yard?
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No. I feel like this is something
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that you do in like elementary
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have to do with like an entire
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what? Why are we doing this?
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Yeah, it did come out of nowhere.
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We're going to be burying a time
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cool. Yeah, you couldn't even fucking
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finish your family mission statement yet and now you're
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going to bury a time capsule, OK.
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It totally makes sense. We go to the adults on the couch
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they start referencing what it felt like living in the separate
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And Robyn makes a weird comment, though that is something new.
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She says it will be eye opening about the damage done over the
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opportunity to prepare their relationships.
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Like OK, I guess that's true, but the use of damage done seems
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I guess there's already a bunch of damage.
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I mean, they have been talking about it.
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It's just such a dramatic way to put it.
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It is. And it's just odd to be like,
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oh, Yep, we're going to build a time capsule because now we're
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done. And oh, maybe this time capsule
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is something that will bring us together again.
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But we haven't even finished our family missions, David.
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They try all these weird band aids all the time to get people
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together and to fix things and. And not only is this time
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capsule going to be buried by the Brown family this week, but
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this week is also going to be their first Sunday service at
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the new homes. So when they start this episode,
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OK, sounds good. All of which does not address
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Robyn's secret that we're aware of at this point.
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But don't worry, we're getting there pretty quick.
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Yeah, back to our weird shenanigans.
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Just, you know, trying to do things to bring the family
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together. Weird activities.
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So when we start in on the action for this episode, we're
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was challenging. We get a outside clip of
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everybody walking over to Meri's house.
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Kody has this whole spiel about putting their phones away.
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No phones in church. Everybody put your phones away.
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Put social media down.
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The pulpit is in front of Meri's
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Just have to point that out. While everyone is gathering in
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Meri's family room, Kody has a
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how when they moved to Las Vegas, he was under the
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impression that people from their faith would be visiting on
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a monthly basis, or at least driving through town on their
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way somewhere else. And they'd stop over and they
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would be able to have their community gathering of fellow
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believers in the cult on a monthly basis.
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And I'm going what? Who thinks that you're going to
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be able to have church on a monthly basis because people are
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just going to periodically visit?
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Consistent really enough where
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monthly services with visitors.
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It's like, did you ever do anything about that?
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Like, do you ever call anyone other than the weird people you
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had on the show that we met? Yeah, he thought that they would
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Facebook? Please come to the church at my
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home once a month. Like, I don't know what he was
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Yes. And he talks about the Hebrews
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they've been away from it for so long.
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And when you're away from your community, you do start to lose
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the belief system of of course, he has to compare his family to
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the Hebrews and the Bible and. Oh yeah, yeah.
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No reference to Joseph Smith or Hiram Smith or whoever the hell
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the other one was that we were supposed to talk about during
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that episode. He just.
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Picks and chooses weird parts of the Bible to compare his family
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to. Those cool guys from the Old
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Testament is coming. Right.
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They show him starting this church service standing in front
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interrupt with the couch moment where he's talking about how he
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needs to be more exciting because the kids are bored.
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Church is boring for children in general.
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And so, you know, whatever. Then I go back to Meri's family
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room and Christine is talking about something.
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And I felt like we were going to get something, but we really
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didn't. They just showed her talking for
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Be can we get nothing? Or something.
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And then it fades out. And then there's more voiceover
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where Kody says I asked Robyn to
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and about sexual purity. And it's like, so why didn't you
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just show us like 3 seconds of
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It was so weird. I guess it was to demonstrate
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that all the wives get up and talk in front of the family.
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Well, we get voice over of Christine saying that Kody asks
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each of the wives to participate
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and come and speak their truths about things.
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So they show Christine standing up there and talking about, I
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think she's talking about technology and unplugging from
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technology because she's holding
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And so she's talking about unplugging, I think because Kody
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starts out all this by saying like, put your phones away, no
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phones in church, blah, blah, blah.
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But then that's kind of all we
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And I'm just assuming that that's what her spiel was about
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because they don't let us in on it.
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And then here come the big guns.
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We're bringing in Robyn to talk about chastity.
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The big guns. I'm going to talk about the
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biggest mistake of my life, and I'm actually pretty nervous
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about it. Oh, Robyn in the biggest mistake
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So I can understand how she would be so nervous to talk
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about. She's falsely tearing up doing
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There's several fake tears in this episode for sure.
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And so then we show Robyn standing in front of Meri's
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crooked fireplace mantle wearing her Sunday school teacher best
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A black sweater over another black shirt, potentially.
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I did see, like, I don't know, above her boobies, like just
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below her neck. So I thought that was a that was
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and yellow flower skirt. Yeah, hydrangeas.
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Oh, hydrangeas. Yes, I love the hydrangeas.
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Yes. She's holding something in her
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because she's cupping it in front of her as if she's about
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Oh, but she does offer something to someone.
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In this moment, looking at her in her hydrangeas skirt get up
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remind you all that when we first met Robyn, she was wearing
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for teenagers trying to look super young, super hip, super
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young and hot. And just in with the no, in with
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wearing like a white nighty negligee tank top over long
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sleeves. And obviously when you go to
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church you dress nicer, but then you look around the room and
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literally nobody else is dressed up.
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Yeah, everyone else, Kody is. Kody is, but none of the kids
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are dressed nice. A lot of the other adults aren't
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right now. Like she's standing up there in
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this outfit that she probably had to borrow from Meri.
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Like, it's just so bizarre. And we're seeing her play roles,
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preteen teen clothing at the time of this.
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And now she's trying to teach purity.
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So she's got to dress this way. It's like she's just, so she's
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We went from the juniors to the senior section, as in the senior
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Seriously. Pretty quick for Robyn Sermon.
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happened to them and what they did with their purity.
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And she wants us to know that these are true stories.
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Now, what's funny is after we get through these people's
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stories of these two, you know, made-up women, just these two.
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And they're very real stories. What's funny is that one of
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their stories, we get some details and we get some
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heartbreak and we get some forgiveness and eventually
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triumph and the other person we get one sentence so.
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These. Stories.
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It's interesting how she Tees it up about the two stories.
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When you think about narrative and storytelling, you would
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usually think that means you're going to go on 2 journeys.
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We really only go on one journey and then literally hear like a
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person. And yes, these are real stories.
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About two girls. Yeah, sure.
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Consider the source. It is Robyn, so of course it's
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not all true, but some of it must be true.
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But most of it is not she. Starts off by talking about how
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your purity is a great gift that
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setting up the tale talking about purity and holding in
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her hands. But we finally get a little bit
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of a glimpse of a silver Locket.
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A silver heart Locket that's about the size of a palm.
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Yeah, it's pretty big. It's pretty large.
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For a Locket, Robyn starts off
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telling us she was very chaste
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But then things changed. Yes, she was kind of a good
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girl, a good child. Purity has to do with your mind
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and your heart. It's a prize valued above all
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jewels, she tells everyone in the family room.
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It's so valuable, more valuable than the biggest diamond in the
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world, Your purity. But her body had urges.
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She felt like she was missing out on something by not
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indulging in her temptations with a boy and.
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Her physical wants. And needs.
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And longings. Her moist caramel was just
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twitching. No, just.
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Twitching. Caramel.
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No. Oh God.
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Oh gosh. That's wrong.
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I'm sorry everyone that's wrong.
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Robyn's senior year and into college, she started to question
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issues and their marriage isn't perfect and they're in plural
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marriage and she's questioning the fact that she's holding out
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on her physical wants. Why?
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Why am I doing this? And along with those unearth
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things in her life, she also realized that her parents aren't
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long, but it didn't seem to be getting her anywhere.
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Which I'm going like, OK, when I had questionings about faith and
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getting me anywhere. I don't quite, I don't think I
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believe man in the sky and like people going and chanting
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mindlessly and not actually changing their own lives to
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align with what they say. I was questioning things like
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that. Not like it's not really getting
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out of life. So why am I doing this?
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That's a very self-centered way of looking at it as opposed to
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It's a very me, me, me centered way of thinking about it like,
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And Robyn tells them each of you has a gift and it's your purity.
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husband or wife. And then she switches back into
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the two girl story. One girl, there was a boy who
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asked her for her purity, her purity.
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He begged and begged for it and so she gave it away and then
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this is where she throws the Locket onto the floor.
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And it clatters to the carpet and.
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It makes a clink noise and it must have been it hitting itself
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because I was like, did it hit
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It's like, no, it looks like it's just on the ground.
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It's on carpet. On the carpet.
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So why did it make a dinging noise?
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It must have gone open, close,
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her purity. And they pan out, you know, to
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show her doing this dramatic Locket throw.
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And the kids are literally all
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crossed looking down, not even
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how awkward they feel and she's just putting on this one woman
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show. It's so true.
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So after she says she gave it away and she throws the Locket
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onto the ground. Actually she just kind of like
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dropped it. It sounded like a throw because
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of the noise it made. And then she says she gave away
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her purity. Like whole way to emphasize the
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purity going away. He didn't respect it and he
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threw it on the ground. He threw it on.
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The and she says that like after
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It's almost like a afterthought,
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He threw it on the ground, not
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What am I doing? Oh, it's like she had a bit
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planned, like, oh, I'm going to throw the Locket on the ground
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and be all dramatic. And then she threw it and
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realized, oh shit, I was going
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it away like crap. She gives us a little insight
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into her past on the couch. She says that she was 19 when
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she was getting rebellious and
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and that at this time she was really questioning her beliefs.
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She says that she lowered her standards at this time in her
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life and she started dating this
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He was her first kiss and there was only one thing that he
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wanted. Dun Dun, Dun.
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And so I got pregnant, she says,
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hop, skipping and jumping 10 steps, and she doesn't finish
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the story. And then I got pregnant.
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Yes, there was only one thing he
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her to look around and look up and make it seem like are the
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tears going to come? Are the tears going to come?
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The tears ain't coming, the tears ain't coming.
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And then she goes, so I got pregnant and it's like.
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Just the weirdest, yeah. What is going on here?
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And of course, these couch moments where Robyn's talking
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about this, it's only her and Kody on the couch, and they're
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very close. He's staring at her.
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At other times, he's staring through her.
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At other times he's got his arm around her.
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It's very consoling and very like I'm here for you, Robyn.
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Like I'm just here to support you through this story.
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And we find out she got pregnant
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kiss situation. The first kiss and then ma'am,
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she's pregnant. So obviously we are talking here
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about Dayton's father. I just have to say this poor guy
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gets like his name drugged through the muds so many times.
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And I just can't imagine talking
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way. Because regardless of like,
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let's say you get knocked up before you fall in love with
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your partner, there's something that happens when you scramble
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your DNA with somebody that you have to have some sort of
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respect for them in some sort of
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But what if you only kissed him once and then you were
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pregnant? I don't know.
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I mean, that's what we're finding out here.
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And so that's why my mind is so blown.
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You know, the Virgin Robyn over here.
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The Virgin Meri. Yeah.
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Given her gift away, yet not wanting to fully confess what
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the gift is. She can't.
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Say that she had sex with him. She's not.
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Give a 10 second pause and then she was pregnant.
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And this is my whole issue with when people say, oh, I gave my
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less of a person afterwards because you gave them a piece of
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it's implying a decrease in your value after the action.
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And I just. Cringe so hard when I hear her
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there's any merit behind these claims.
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And here she is again dragging this guy telling this story
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about how oh poor woe is me. He begged and begged and begged
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me and so I gave my purity to him and now I'm this victim.
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It's like, Oh my gosh, she's trying to tell us during this
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story that she's taking ownership of, of the fact that
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sharing this story is because she told God that she felt that
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she needed to share this story if he would forgive her for
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having done this and getting pregnant out of wedlock.
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And it's just all so manipulative yet again because
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Dayton's dad, your ex-husband, saying he begged me he only
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wanted this one thing from me and this horrible shitty person
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and I lowered my standards for him.
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And even even here it's like you're trying to own up to
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something but you can't. So we cut back to her speaking
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a kiss. And she tells the kids that she
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has spent her whole life. Oh, this girl, this girl in this
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to get her purity back, and she couldn't.
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And she's still sad about it. And then they cut to a couch
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moment where we hear from Mckelty, and Mckelty says that
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I'd call it pretty. All right.
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And I was distracted because Leon is on the couch with
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Mckelty and Leon is wearing a wife beater looking white tank
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I saw shoulder. I saw arm flap.
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Farmer's tan. I saw farmer's tan, I saw
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teenage skin acne, and I'm like wow, Leon dressed like a sex
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addict during this episode. Interesting choice.
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Interesting choice. Interesting to say the least.
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I'm not so sure that that outfit meets Kody's purity
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requirements. It's an odd choice, Mckelty
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says. That this story really, really
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Like they can't. They're just.
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It's also juvenile. Made me not want to do anything
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ever. So Robyn continues with her
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sermon. She says that when this girl,
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this made this not made-up girl, this very real girl, when she
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met the man that she loves, she had to say, this boy, he took my
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it to someone else. I'm so sorry.
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So this theme of stealing something, taking something,
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it's something to give away. It's this commodity bit.
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It's like she'll never be. She's not a whole person now.
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And when you were talking about the underlying thing of this
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whole story, I was thinking about how she references Dayton
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in her couch moments, talking about the sermon and there's two
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She was with him for 9, married for 9 years, I believe when I
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did the math before they were together for 10 or 11 years.
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I mean, this isn't some multi month like, oh, we were together
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And I've never been the same because I've just had to deal
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with all the consequences. It's like, you were with the man
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happen, but my God, I, I just, I
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Yeah, that's. The math is not mapping on.
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No, it's not. And that's why I go to the like,
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OK, at some point you cared about this guy, why are you
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doing this? I have exes that I can still
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respect and I can look back at
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like that person served a purpose in my life at that time
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and I can still respect that person even though we're not
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together today. Like not every relationship that
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doesn't work out is a failure.
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They help you become who you are
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It doesn't have to be some big
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I hate when people look at a breakup or a divorce as a
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mistake because it's part of your story.
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It's you know who you are today and that person might be a
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mistake in your eyes, but I think in the grand scheme of
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things, most people, even if they regret decisions, realize
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that it has made them who they
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And every single time that her
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ex-husband, it's just like he just gets dragged and dragged
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and dragged and it's just like
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ownership but she's not. She's blaming him for
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everything. She literally says here that she
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had given her purity away to someone else who kind of stole
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it from her. The word stole in this context
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to me implies RAPE and I don't
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Yeah. It is wildly inappropriate.
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It is. She is basically implying to all
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the children in their family, church home, church shindig
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thing that they do that she was essayed by her ex-husband
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because he talked her into giving this piece of herself
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away. It's so messed up and it is just
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going to create a complex for all of the children in that
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room. Yeah.
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Particularly your oldest, Dayton, who I mean all of your
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children. But Dayton is a direct result of
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your getting knocked up before
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Yeah. To put these pieces together
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that your father stole my purity
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and I'm a victim and he is terrible.
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That fucks with someone's mind. Like that's not OK.
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Adam and Eve, she's comparing herself to like, oh, I was
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tempted by the snake and I just gave in because I had to type of
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other moms were like this is semi inappropriate.
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Like why are we doing this? I don't know.
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We find out that they all signed off on it, but whatever.
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Yeah, we don't get a lot of cutaways to the other wives,
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which I find to be interesting. There's, well, actually I saw
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both Christine and Meri in close-ups, but both of them, I
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dramatic way. But there's a moment where Robyn
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oh, I can't believe it. And I'm like, I don't even think
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I think you just had the footage and you put it that way because
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otherwise you would show us more.
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It's like Christine and Meri are there and they're listening, but
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don't see a lot of them. Because everyone's bored out of
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their fucking gourds. There's no reactions to be had
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down, they're looking up, they're fiddling with their
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shoelaces like Leon is listening.
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Well, I'm sure some of the older kids are probably paying a
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little more attention, but some of them are not.
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And the particularly the young ones are just like.
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They don't even know what purity is.
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They don't even know what is being.
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It's all this coded language and so you can't even really put, I
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mean, it's all implied in coded language.
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You know, she never says anything about having sex.
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She never says anything about safe sex.
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If you're going to have sex, she there's never.
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There's not really a lesson to learn here other than you're not
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That you'll get pregnant and regret your life choices for
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nine years? Yeah, she she says in a Couch
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interview that being chased is a tenant of their faith, and not
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Hell. Don't, don't.
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And then she says when I found out I was pregnant I was so
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scared. She goes on to say that when he
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asked me to marry him, I said yes.
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I was trying so hard to love my husband at that time.
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She was devastated by the news. Devastated.
28:48
Yes. But Dayton was the best thing
28:52
that ever happened to her. And they're showing pictures of
28:56
Dayton as a baby across the screen at this time.
28:59
And I harken back to how can you talk shit about your child's dad
29:05
into a situation like this? You're literally putting
29:08
pictures of your mistake across the screen and like spelling it
29:12
out for us that this was your biggest mistake of your life.
29:16
But Oh well, it turned out OK because it was Dayton.
29:19
But you still were part of the biggest mistake of my life.
29:23
Yeah, yeah. It's so fucked up.
29:25
Self esteem booster. But Robyn, you know what she
29:28
did? She turned that around and she
29:35
God told her. You know what, Robyn?
29:37
If you're willing to Share your story with others, with
29:40
children, in particular those that we can have avoid making
29:44
the biggest mistake of their life by giving away their
29:47
purity, then you could help others and all could be forgiven
29:53
I have something to say here, Christopher.
29:56
I never told her to share her story.
29:59
In fact, I told her not to share
30:05
And that bitch just never listens to me.
30:09
She pretends she listens, but has she ever really listened?
30:14
I don't think so. Oh, thanks for visiting us, God.
30:20
Thank you. Thank you for that tidbit, holy
30:22
Moses. Well, the truth.
30:23
The truth. You are in church right now and
30:27
that was the word according to
30:32
Wow. We find out that she sat down
30:35
with the adults and told them all the story about having to
30:39
get married and her child that
30:45
And they do show us some clips, you know, from the first season
30:49
where the family is getting together for the first time.
30:52
So we're finding out that basically back when they met,
30:56
she confessed her sins to the other wives before being brought
31:00
in to the family. Something along the lines of
31:03
letting them know what they were
31:07
Now when I hear getting yourself
31:10
crazy, out of control debt that they're going to have to pay
31:13
off. I think about how they're going
31:14
to have to work to support her
31:17
I don't think that getting themselves into was welcoming 3
31:21
wonderful children into their family.
31:23
It was taking care of this adult
31:27
my purity. My children are not mistakes.
31:29
It was just a big mistake. Like, Oh my God, woman.
31:32
It's she's always, there's always this positioning with her
31:35
where it's never what it really is.
31:37
It's never what it really is. And Kody buys it hook, line and
31:41
sinker. Well, it was all a setup, right?
31:43
It was all her setting up her side of the story from the get
31:46
go. Like the woe is me character,
31:49
the pick me girl. Like oh Oh yeah this is my sad
31:53
sob story. Like feel bad for me.
31:57
And now my favorite part of Robyn's purity sermon.
32:01
The story of the second girl. Ho ho ho.
32:03
The second girl saved her purity
32:08
man she loves. Pause turns to Kody.
32:14
This is yours. Literally hands the Locket to
32:19
Kody as if it is a precious Pearl, the biggest diamond in
32:23
the world. Well, it is her purity, worth
32:24
more than any jewel on the planet.
32:27
And she says, this is my gift to
32:32
The ultimate gift, and it's yours.
32:35
And it's yours and I'm going. So the second story is that
32:39
she's this girl who's real but
32:44
husband. And that's the story.
32:47
And the way that she does it in front of the other wives is
32:52
mind blowing to me. She is standing in this room in
32:55
front of this man's other wives,
32:58
she could have given her purity to him.
33:01
And in a way, the way that it worked, it was very symbolic.
33:04
I think in her head and in his
33:08
of her being like in an alternate universe, actually,
33:12
after God, you know, reinstated my purity.
33:14
Now I'm giving it to you symbolically in front of all of
33:19
your children and your wives. It's gross.
33:22
It is so creepy. I wanted to vomit.
33:25
Yeah, it was disgusting. Well, they should have prefaced
33:27
this second part of the story with what Kody says next in his
33:31
interview because Kody says that
33:35
story. Because you can be atoned by God
33:38
and get your purity back. And he feels like Robyn has
33:43
atoned for this and had received
33:47
actually able to give it to Kody.
33:52
OK, you guys are nuts. Yeah, that would have made more
33:58
sense to put in before Robyn's second story of the true Lie
34:02
Girl, because without it, even with it, it's disturbing.
34:05
But without it, it's even more disturbing.
34:07
It's just like, are you reenacting you guys fucking for
34:10
the first time but with God's permission?
34:12
Like, it's just bizarre. They're pretending like, and
34:16
this is just so grossing me but I'm so sorry, this is what I
34:20
imagine in my mind. I imagine them together for
34:22
their first time, kneeling on the ground and praying to God.
34:30
matrimonial act that we are about to perform together.
34:34
And like, I imagine them doing some weird sort of like thing
34:37
like that to get her purity back so she can just give it to the
34:45
to Them's the vibes here. Part of that.
34:47
I'm not liking it. Part of that prayer was God.
34:50
I've got your tool here, and I'm ready to spread my seed.
34:54
I mean your seed. But Robyn, you know, she's a
34:57
dirty whore, so we need you to give her back her purity.
35:00
And yeah. And then they did.
35:02
Light as a feather, stiff as a board.
35:03
And, you know, said hocus pocus, bibbity, bibbity boop.
35:07
And all of a sudden she was pure again.
35:09
And it was wonderful. So when we return back to Robyn
35:14
in front of the crooked mantle, she says all I ask of you is to
35:19
protect your purity. Make a choice today Make the
35:23
choice today to protect your purity.
35:26
It's also manipulative, pushing children like.
35:30
Make the promise today to stay chaste like it's, it's a
35:36
manipulation tactic in religions to put choices like this, like
35:43
You make this promise to God today, not to break it.
35:46
It is a manipulation tactic because then if the child goes
35:53
guilty. Oh, remember that day that we
35:55
sat in our family church and you made that promise to God that
35:59
day and you broke it? Yeah, like, well, it's weird
36:03
because there's the flip side of a coin here.
36:06
People generally don't want their children that aren't
36:10
adults having sex. So while I agree with you, it's
36:14
a manipulation tactic, I also feel like most parents when they
36:26
And so it's like a tool in the tool belt or it's like a thing.
36:29
And particularly if they're
36:30
brainwashed, if they're literally like, I'm delulu, I'm
36:32
crazy, then it's just more crazy
36:35
But I feel bad for parents that are trying to hoping that their
36:39
kids abstain from sex. But there's only so much you can
36:42
do about it. And it's such a tricky thing.
36:46
Like I, I don't have kids and I don't have daughters,
36:49
especially because that purity is worth so much more than
36:51
that tool of God. And so I don't know.
36:54
But I imagine if I did have a daughter, I'd be like, I need
36:56
you to at least wait till college because I can't think
36:58
about you having sex when you're in like, I just, I want you to
37:06
Most people that I know had sex before they were out of their
37:10
parents house and I don't know, it's just weird.
37:14
I don't know. Sorry.
37:14
I'm going, I'm going. Totally detracting.
37:16
Us Tell your kids not to do today.
37:18
They will want to do tomorrow. The best that you can do is prep
37:26
hormones are a raging. The only thing you can do is
37:30
prepare them for the safest possible options and hope that
37:43
parenthood with the mindset of I'm going to be able to control
37:46
my child is just that's just not going to happen.
37:49
That's just never going to happen.
37:50
And if you really want little beings that you can control,
37:54
like get a dog, get a cat. I don't know because.
37:57
You're not another human. Yeah, you're supposed to be
38:00
raising your children to be self-sufficient people that
38:03
think for themselves and they're they're going to be horny like
38:08
And so you got to set them up for success and teach them the
38:14
they make the best decisions for themselves and be there for them
38:21
would have. Made which will happen?
38:23
It will happen. And the more that you're not
38:26
forthcoming and talk about this stuff with your kids, the more
38:37
communication about it is the only thing you can do to keep
38:40
them safe. Any who going on a tangent about
38:46
Robyn's sermon has touched us. We are literally touched by the
38:49
word of Robyn. Yes, yes.
38:51
Touched in our wet caramel, we get a couch moment with some of
38:56
the teenagers and Hunter tells us that while he agrees with
39:00
Robyn, theoretically, he feels it's most important to wait to
39:06
for marriage probably isn't the most important thing.
39:10
And I like that perspective from a teenager.
39:13
You know, it's not like he's disregarding the story and
39:15
making it sound, I mean, which it is a ridiculous story and he
39:19
should be disregarding it. But his take away is the even
39:22
keeled take away of like I heard the gist of the story.
39:25
I I agree that you probably just shouldn't be having sex with
39:28
someone you don't care about when you're a teenager.
39:30
So I thought that was a reasonable take away from that
39:35
We get a comment from Leon, of course, as we would, saying I
39:40
think that sex is something that should be saved for marriage.
39:45
That's it. Of course we already knew that,
39:48
Leon. We knew you thought that way to
39:49
let us know again. Leon's going to be a sister wife
39:55
A doctor and a sister wife and
39:58
already for marriage. For my husband.
40:03
All right, Leon. And now we cut to a potluck,
40:06
Honey, A potluck. Breakfast potluck after church.
40:11
That kind of activity where everyone gathers after the.
40:15
Sermon of the Lord. Sermon of the Lord The Lord
40:20
spoke through Robyn, and now we're going to eat through our
40:22
mouth holes. The family prophet Kody Brown
40:24
hath a spoken. Now let's go and have a feast.
40:28
Yes. So they transitioned to
40:30
Christine's, which we aren't told, but then later I put the
40:33
pieces together. That's fine.
40:34
Remember they were giving us all
40:36
episodes, knocking us over the
40:38
But now that we're at the Brown family cul-de-sac and we're all
40:40
settled after half a month maybe, which we figure out later
40:45
potentially, now we just should know where we are.
40:48
So I thought we were still at Meri's.
40:49
Maybe we were, but I don't think
40:52
two different days and they spliced it together, those
40:55
motherfuckers. But apparently we might be at
40:57
Christine's now, and there's a
41:00
and everyone's gathering to get their potluck, which might be
41:04
another meal on a different day.
41:05
I didn't really pay attention to their clothes, so I don't know.
41:09
Leon announces very smugly that
41:12
they got a call from the senior advisor of admissions at
41:16
Westminster and they got accepted.
41:20
Woo. And they also got a $10,000
41:25
scholarship, no? I'm just kidding.
41:31
Yeah. So that covers about 1/8 of the
41:34
annual cost of Westminster at that time.
41:38
You know, $10,000, nothing to sneeze at.
41:39
Also, you're not going to pay for your college on 10K.
41:42
So, you know, keep keep on trucking, Leon.
41:44
You're going to be a doctor. You got to keep working.
41:47
Now the kids are clapping and they're enthusiastic.
41:49
And it's funny, I like this moment because everyone in the
41:52
family is being supportive and
41:56
on, the years and years, it seems like when the kids have
42:01
things happen, people care less.
42:02
And this is, I don't know if it's a big family dynamic, it
42:07
might be every family dynamic because I'm the oldest.
42:09
So everyone cared about what I did, of course, and praised me
42:15
But there's this enthusiasm, blah, blah, blah.
42:18
By the time Gabe goes to college, you think anybody gave
42:20
a fuck? You think anybody gave him a
42:23
clap or a Hoo ha or a excitement for you?
42:25
I don't think so. I don't think anybody.
42:27
I don't think we're I don't think we're filming it.
42:28
I don't think we're talking about it.
42:30
There's nothing. So these older kids and I don't
42:32
know if it's just the positioning of the show, you
42:34
know that it's a storyline that something's happening, we're
42:36
going to cover it or if it's just the way families progress.
42:39
But these older kids like Logan
42:41
going to school, there was multiple episodes, there was
42:43
parties trying to convince him
42:45
And here's Leon making an announcement and everyone's
42:48
celebrating or whatever. When Isabel went to college, I
42:51
think they had like a waving from the driveway moment or
42:55
something, You know, I mean, like, no one.
42:57
It's just weird. It just stood out to me as
42:58
someone who's watched the show
43:00
That's why we get into the talks
43:04
to have this many children because you can give less and
43:07
less of yourself to each child as you go through life.
43:10
Like you're spreading yourself
43:12
Like every child should get pat on the back and a big going
43:17
away for going to college. It shouldn't get less and less.
43:21
That to me is sad. Like that is really sad.
43:23
I know it just it's not addressed in this episode.
43:25
It just stood out to me as something where I'm like, yeah,
43:27
I noticed that weaning, weaning,
43:32
waning, waning as years go on.
43:37
comment about the $10,000 and how $10,000 towards tuition is a
43:42
big deal. I'm glad they got the
43:45
scholarship. OK, that wasn't Kody's.
43:48
They paid for like half of 1 semester for their freshman
43:52
year. Not even half, definitely a
43:54
fraction, but it's a. We are reminded that they are
43:59
about to have five kids in college at once.
44:02
Yes, in a couple years, 'cause
44:05
in school, Leon and Aspen will
44:09
more, Mckelty and Hunter probably.
44:12
So these kids are in a couple years, they're going to have
44:14
five of their kids in college.
44:18
interesting retort to this point.
44:20
Well, because Kody kind of is like Pooh poohing this and like
44:24
how difficult it's going to be
44:28
that they're going to need more money if they're going to go
44:31
there. And he's kind of being a Debbie
44:33
Downer about the money situation.
44:35
And Christine kind of says, hey,
44:41
in diapers. We didn't think we'd get past
44:43
the diaper phase. We'll get past the college phase
44:47
two. And she kind of does this like
44:48
tongue click thing like. It was an interesting point.
44:52
I think I air on the side of Christine in a bit.
44:56
I think that life's challenges
44:59
Sometimes you feel like you're
45:01
you don't know how you're going to get through them.
45:02
And then when you look back on
45:05
did this and I did this, or this
45:06
This person helped me. Different things happen where
45:09
you get through things and you
45:12
having talking about 5 kids in
45:14
This is where I think she might be a little delulu because it's
45:17
like 5 kids in college is a huge
45:21
It's not necessarily buying diapers, but a young family
45:24
buying diapers for five kids. That must have seemed in
45:28
insurmountable or like we're never going to be able to get
45:30
through this, you know? I get a little confused by their
45:33
conversations about a college and the funding college, because
45:37
obviously they're not going to
45:40
towards all of these kids as college tuitions.
45:43
It doesn't seem like, because that's a lot of kids.
45:45
And I don't know, even if you could give your kid 10 grand
45:49
towards school, that is a big deal.
45:52
Yeah. And when you have this many
45:53
kids, that happening is like slim to none.
45:56
But you guys technically aren't all married, so the chances of
46:00
your child getting some sort of financial aid are very high.
46:04
And your kids probably going to have to take out student loans.
46:07
But it's not like your kid is going to not be able to go to
46:11
college. Their conversation they have
46:14
around college each time is just
46:17
the average person does have to take out student loans.
46:20
And that's even for a family of like one or two kids, right?
46:23
So a family this large, you're
46:26
going to have to take out student loans for your child.
46:29
You said it. Yeah.
46:30
Kody is an idiot. Yeah.
46:32
This is what unfolds through the
46:35
It's probably coming up pretty
46:38
start going to. Yeah.
46:39
So discussions about not Co signing for student loans and
46:44
being very opposed to this. This is what Kody says while the
46:48
wives are trying to talk sense
46:52
I mean, most people have student
46:54
can't pay for it and they can't pay for it.
46:55
It's very basic. Kody's Oh, you can't start life
46:59
out with debt. And it's like, well, isn't that
47:00
ideal? Wouldn't that be lovely if every
47:02
person could just start their adult life out without debt?
47:04
You had you have 20 fucking children.
47:06
What are you talking about? What were you thinking?
47:08
He's such an idiot. How do you think that's not
47:10
going to happen? And look at where the fuck you
47:12
are are now. But also you married a woman
47:14
with a shit ton of debt. I would be more willing to get
47:17
in debt over my child's education than buying porcelain
47:21
dolls. But that's just me.
47:24
I don't know these guys. Well, that's why your doll
47:26
collection is so skimpy and cheap, honey.
47:29
That's why they all have little cracks in their faces.
47:32
That's why I'm always making fun
47:37
They're not porcelain, they're
47:40
Those plastic and rubber dolls, they're just crap.
47:44
Paper mache so made them myself.
47:45
This is it. Why aren't you in more debt
47:47
Because of your dolls? I mean, Oh my.
47:51
God. Well, after this potluck,
47:53
they're going to bury a time capsule.
47:55
So now we're getting to the time capsule.
47:57
Woo Hoo. And Kody tells everyone.
47:59
I'd like you to all get something you'd like to see in
48:05
announcement. And it almost seems like other
48:09
adults knew, nobody knows this is happening.
48:11
OK, so we're doing a time capsule.
48:13
So cool. All the kids are going to scurry
48:19
time capsule. But before we even get to the
48:21
lovely things that the children and parents picked to put in
48:24
said time capsule, we hear a little bit from Robyn again
48:28
about how she's so happy that she'll be able to put something
48:31
into the ground that will be there in five years and they
48:34
will be there in five years, and she'll be in the same home in
48:39
five years. For the first time ever, she's
48:45
tidbit in. Well, of course, I mean, Robyn's
48:50
victimhood and now she's going to be in a home for five years.
48:54
Cut to when we hear the date I'm
48:56
going. We should actually look up and
48:58
see when they leave these homes.
48:59
Not to give too much away to people, our listeners at home
49:03
who haven't seen the show, but but are they there in five
49:06
years? I don't know.
49:07
Is that red cooler of a time capsule still buried?
49:11
There, that red cooler, I was going to say it was Igloo, but
49:16
It's probably some knock off. But, you know, we do get to the
49:19
cooler. We do get there.
49:21
Christine does tell us that she wishes they would have had their
49:29
And I was L0L 0L0 L ING. I thought, oh, my God, I hope
49:33
I'm not annoying. I hope I'm not annoying, Kimber,
49:38
I was like, what on God's green earth are you talking about?
49:41
Yeah. Why are you doing a time capsule
49:46
Why? Like you're being forced to do
49:50
Like it couldn't wait a month until you have your family
49:53
mission statement. These guys and they're weird
49:56
timelines that they put on themselves where they need to do
50:02
finish stupid shit like their family mission statement.
50:05
It's like, what are these timelines you give yourselves?
50:11
Days. Are you idiot?
50:13
Yes, absolutely. Oh my.
50:15
God, absurd. No planning.
50:16
And I'm imagining when you were saying that I was, I had a
50:18
visual in my head of one of the producers coming with a gun and
50:21
being like you were doing a time capsule and you're doing it
50:24
this week. Like what?
50:25
On Gun Screen Earth, you've already talked about the mission
50:29
You've had at least two meetings at this point to craft it and
50:33
you haven't done that. But let's make sure we get our
50:38
Like what the fuck? In like the middle of January or
50:44
like roughly a month at this point, right?
50:46
So why are you doing it right now anyway?
50:48
Yeah, it's very important. It's very important.
50:50
It gets in the ground. Well, hot off of Christine's
50:54
comment about the time capsule and their missing mission
50:57
statement, they cut to the couch for a fab To Be Less Precious
51:00
Pearl, where Leon says that a family mission statement is
51:03
stupid because they're not a business, they're a family.
51:07
Which I love because it's just more Debbie Downer vibes from
51:11
Leon. We get plenty of that.
51:13
Thank you, Leon. Kind of chiding Leon like, why
51:19
because we're a family, not a business.
51:21
Like Oh my God, get off your fucking high horse.
51:25
Yet again Leon trying to seem like the smartest one in the God
51:30
Leon Buzzkill Brown hit us. Leon the Buzzkill.
51:34
Wisdom. Leon's going to be a doctor.
51:37
So then we cut to everyone following Kody carrying his red
51:40
plastic cooler to the backyard. And it's one of those red
51:44
coolers that has a white top and the white handle, and it looks
51:49
you bring a cooler camping, blah, blah, blah.
51:51
I have to mention that Hunter decides to put a wrestling one
51:58
was cute. That is cute.
52:00
And something that's not so cute, Meri puts in a My sister
52:07
other things, but those were the two that drew my attention.
52:11
That's funny, if the wrestling metal was made out of plastic,
52:21
So the family has followed Kody to the backyard, and he starts
52:32
Poor Drake. That was the name of the dog we
52:34
couldn't remember the other day.
52:36
And so Kody's back there digging
52:38
But during this time, oh, some
52:43
turns out they didn't want to stand around and watch their dad
52:45
digging a hole. And he points out, oh, well, my
52:48
boys aren't here to help me dig this hole.
52:50
Hole. No one wants to help with this.
52:53
It's like, yeah, nobody cares.
52:57
Peyton, I think both on their phones, laying on couches,
53:01
Literally, the kids are disseminated.
53:03
They don't give a fuck. It's weird because before they
53:06
even show them digging the hole,
53:09
together, like with these plastic cups of juice and they
53:14
they go hip hip. Hooray.
53:17
Like cheers, their juice cups.
53:22
this hole alone. It's like, what were you guys
53:24
just hip, hip hurraying about?
53:27
Right, they hip, hip, hurray. And then he's alone in the
53:30
backyard, but not unsupervised
53:35
the leader of the pack, Meri Brown.
53:38
If you want something done right, have Meri Brown watch you
53:40
do it. That's what I always say.
53:42
Oh, God. So Meri and Kody are there
53:45
together alone and he's pickaxing into the ground and
53:49
she's just standing there looking beautiful.
53:54
And Kody takes a break and says we need to talk about the baby
53:58
decision. Yep, of course he needs an
54:00
answer on that baby stuff. The baby business.
54:03
Yeah, the baby stuff, he literally says the word stuff
54:07
and it's so great because he goes back to digging.
54:09
And Meri, oh, bless her heart.
54:12
Sometimes I just love her, she
54:14
When we talk about this, I need you to be involved in the
54:18
conversation. He flips his head up and looks
54:23
at her like Shaggy from scooby-doo.
54:27
Like nothing behind the eyes except for like.
54:32
Vacant, vacant look dumb as shit
54:37
picking, shoveling whoops his head up stops and there's
54:42
literally a Dun Dun from the music.
54:44
Like, are you fucking kidding?
54:49
Scooby-doo going. Yeah, Scooby, what are we?
54:53
Doing. I feel like Scooby's the one
54:55
that makes the noise. Yeah, there is.
54:58
I don't. I don't.
54:59
Know true? One of them does, and he's one
55:01
of the two. He's the one of the two.
55:04
Kody's either the dog or the dumb guy that had the dog, and
55:08
it's true it it literally looked
55:10
He was wearing his guest shirt.
55:11
Dig in that hole and Meri was wearing a yellow blouse with all
55:19
ruffles. Yeah, little circles of like
55:21
some other type of material that like fluttered in the wind.
55:25
Cascaded down her shirt. It was very interesting they got
55:31
Except for Kody. Never looks good but you know he
55:35
Shout out to our listener who pointed out the guest at the
55:37
very beginning when we thought
55:40
Yeah, and this one is a blatant guest shirt.
55:43
They actually show the logo, which I'm surprised by.
55:46
Yeah, they make their choices about whether to blur that out
55:49
or not. Yeah.
55:50
It's a little odd and it's kind of like this weird purpley
55:54
color as. Well, black lettering, yeah, it
55:57
was not attractive, but whatever.
55:59
It's an odd choice. And then of course Meri has to
56:02
rehash all the crap we've already lived through.
56:04
Watching them hem and Haw about this baby decision.
56:08
It's like, God, I don't want to hear about this anymore.
56:10
I'm so over. It Oh yeah, she has to let us
56:12
know how emotional it's been trying to decide if they want to
56:16
go through with all of the medical stuff to have a baby.
56:20
Yawn. Who cares?
56:22
Yeah. And then all of a sudden,
56:23
everybody is surrounding Meri and Kody again, back at the big
56:26
hole he's dug for their time capsule.
56:30
Oh. And what day are we going to
56:32
open this time capsule on? No sooner than Civil Rights Day
56:37
2018, which Meri is reading from
56:44
outside of the cooler. And I thought, you know, a
56:47
family. What is this called?
56:49
A time capsule? Yeah.
56:50
I probably would have selected
56:53
cooler. I don't know.
56:54
You know, it works. Maybe.
56:56
Maybe it works. I don't think we'll ever know.
56:58
Think it fully seals. I feel like you're going to open
57:00
that up in five years and there's going to be bugs and
57:04
weird shit in there with it. Who knows?
57:07
But the IT just, it's one of those things where if I, well,
57:10
if I was going to be doing this,
57:12
I would find something cute and Saran wrap or like, you know,
57:16
you have to make it OK to go in the ground.
57:18
Maybe even an urn for God's sake.
57:20
Like anything would have been better than this.
57:22
I don't think this seals like a Tupperware would have been
57:25
better than this probably. Yeah, and it's got a piece of
57:28
paper taped to it, which they probably taped the whole outside
57:31
of the paper, but let's be real,
57:34
It's like written with Sharpie.
57:35
Like you couldn't even put something nice on it.
57:37
There is a bunch of sharpie written all over the cooler as
57:41
It's terrible. Now I'm going to look up Civil
57:50
rights Day is to align with their whole, like we're going to
57:55
rights. Like I think they're kind of
57:57
incorporating that. Why don't they ever make
58:00
connections like fully for the viewer?
58:02
Like they just can't do that. You're just.
58:04
Supposed to summarize it I guess.
58:06
Like, what a dumb day to pick. It's not even Joseph Smith's
58:10
birthday. Come on.
58:12
Well, Civil Rights Day is traditionally commemorated on
58:16
January 15th to honor Martin Luther King.
58:20
So obviously a tie in to civil rights with Martin Luther King.
58:25
But I think their tie in is
58:27
really that they are suing the
58:30
their civil rights as polygamists.
58:32
Watching another day of rights
58:34
Well, Robyn had a dream, you know, and this was this was her
58:37
dream. She did.
58:39
It's all coming full circle to.
58:41
Bury a cooler in the backyard. Oh lordy.
58:45
Oh Lord my God. Now let's see when the Browns
58:50
move out of these houses, OK? So January 15th of 2018 is when
58:56
this was supposed to be open. Yes.
58:58
So they've been in the homes about half a month, yeah.
59:02
So when I looked up when the Browns leave their homes on the
59:07
cul-de-sac, it is roughly summer of 2018.
59:09
So it would be after this they're supposed a date where
59:13
they're going to take up the what is this thing called Time
59:17
I don't know why I can't remember that term.
59:18
Oh, I wonder if we're going to get a digging up of the time
59:22
capsule. This is it.
59:23
I don't recall from my watching before.
59:26
I don't remember it, so I assumed that they didn't, which
59:29
is why maybe the. Shit's just ruined so they can't
59:34
Like, oh, our lives are rotting away like our time capsule.
59:38
I hope Hunter's medal is OK. Oh, that's all I hope.
59:42
Probably. Rusted.
59:42
Oh God. So to wrap up the episode, Kody
59:47
brings us back to Meri's baby decision and shares some
59:51
touching thoughts and some deep, deep, deep feelings here.
59:56
More like a cryptic message. What does Kody tell us, darling
1:00:00
Kody? Says it's about halfway into the
1:00:09
I don't know which way she's leaning, but there's a lot of
1:00:14
thoughts in my head that have been adjusting, so we'll see
1:00:18
what we come up with. Next week on Sister Wives, like
1:00:26
that was the end of the episode and that was that.
1:00:30
There are quotes sometimes, and I shit you not, we're writing
1:00:33
them down word for word. Sometimes.
1:00:35
Are just so prick and weird and nonsensical and my guess is that
1:00:47
homes that this was when the decision is going to be made and
1:00:50
he's been so dead set on having a deadline.
1:00:52
OK well it's halfway into the month.
1:00:54
We've been into the homes looking at my watch here halfway
1:01:00
decision and my thoughts in my head have been adjusting.
1:01:05
Right. So you've changed your mind
1:01:08
about wanting a baby with Meri, is my reading between the lines
1:01:13
there. How do you not know which way
1:01:16
she's leaning? Because they don't see each
1:01:19
other and they don't talk. How does a husband not know
1:01:22
which way their wife is leaning about having a baby after all
1:01:26
this fucking time? All this hashing it out, I don't
1:01:34
paint color. I don't know if she's leaning
1:01:35
more towards the blue or the purple.
1:01:37
But we've been talking about it for five years, beating you over
1:01:46
I just. I hope it's the end.
1:01:49
I'm so over it. I'm so over.
1:01:50
It I hope that next episode we get this big old baby decision
1:01:58
Just like the dogs, Just like this time capsule we're going.
1:02:06
Bury this decision. Be done with it.
1:02:08
Yeah, put Meri's baby decision next to Drake and.
1:02:10
Put it to rest. Let's move on.
1:02:12
Yeah. All right, darling, So you know
1:02:15
what time it is. It's time for mustard seed and
1:02:26
positive way? Well, my mustard seed is going
1:02:35
about being in a long term relationship and a loving
1:02:40
relationship should be the premise of whether you decide to
1:02:47
Sexual relations with that woman.
1:02:49
I think that given what they were just subjected to by Robyn,
1:03:03
into reality. I also thought it was pretty
1:03:07
adorable that Hunter put a wrestling trophy into the time
1:03:14
Yeah, definitely stole my mustard seed on this one for
1:03:17
sure. There weren't a lot of options.
1:03:19
It's kind of a weird episode.
1:03:20
We just heard a lot from Robyn, which isn't going to help
1:03:23
anybody. No, unfortunately.
1:03:26
I'm going to give my mustard seed to Christine.
1:03:29
Another Christine mustard seed.
1:03:30
Wow. Definitely a lot did not happen
1:03:32
in this episode. I appreciated her reference to
1:03:40
particularly when it comes to finances.
1:03:42
Most of us have had highs and lows when it comes to money and
1:03:47
the lows can be very scary. It can feel all-encompassing.
1:03:52
It has made people literally take their own lives because of
1:03:57
financial situations. So to be hearing your husband
1:04:00
talking about the hard times that are coming up and to
1:04:05
default, to remember we've been there before and we got through
1:04:10
it is a well adjusted perspective.
1:04:12
Even if I feel like it's diminishing, you know, the
1:04:15
actual efforts that it will take to finance college.
1:04:18
I like that she said that. I feel like that's a good
1:04:21
reminder when you're talking about finances.
1:04:23
When Kody has referenced that Christine doesn't have her sunny
1:04:30
you see moments like this where Christine is being like the
1:04:34
levity in the situation and trying to be the one with the
1:04:38
sunny disposition. Like, look, we have these
1:04:40
struggles, but there's a bright side to all of it.
1:04:43
And we'll make it out, you know, to the other side.
1:04:46
And I think he just doesn't appreciate her anymore because
1:04:55
disposition when it comes to trying to move the family
1:04:58
forward. And I think that he just doesn't
1:05:03
appreciating her anymore. So he's missing moments like
1:05:07
this where she is sunny disposition Christine.
1:05:10
Sure. Yeah.
1:05:11
And now the ones that should be pretty easy for us, shit stain.
1:05:17
And honey, you know, ladies
1:05:18
first always on this podcast. We respect women on this
1:05:22
podcast. So your shit stain, gosh.
1:05:24
Well, it's pretty obvious that
1:05:27
know, one or the other here as
1:05:33
The leaderboard has these. 2 on it.
1:05:34
It's just a matter of which one you want to lay it out for.
1:05:39
Oh my God, obviously. Given that you were born with a
1:05:43
vagina and that you probably gave away your purity in a
1:05:48
disgusting manner, I think that you probably identify with
1:05:51
Robyn's story. So maybe, maybe you should pick
1:05:53
Robyn. Of course it's Robyn for me, of
1:05:56
course, and mostly just because of the like internalized
1:06:00
misogyny here and the fact that she thinks herself worth is
1:06:03
dependent on her virginity and
1:06:08
dependent on their virginity. And that they're going to be
1:06:11
less of a person and less to give away to a spouse if they do
1:06:15
this horrible thing that she did.
1:06:18
And she's dragging her husband
1:06:21
son into it this time and how he
1:06:25
she ended up loving him because he's ended up being one of the
1:06:28
best things in my life, but he was still a mistake.
1:06:31
She's everything about her just pissed me off in this episode.
1:06:35
And I could go on and on and on about the virginity talk and
1:06:39
the giving up your virginity, the losing your purity, and
1:06:43
how disgusting that language is when it comes to talking about
1:06:47
women that way. I'll just leave it at that
1:06:50
because I think that people know
1:06:54
and I don't want to proselytize to people or get on my soapbox
1:06:58
about it. This was 2013 when this aired.
1:07:02
This way of thinking is still so
1:07:06
diminishing women's value is still so pervasive in our
1:07:10
country that it just pisses me
1:07:13
And yeah, that's all I'll say.
1:07:17
language that speaks to the misogyny in our culture and not
1:07:21
even being part of this cult where they can talk about this
1:07:24
in an episode and not really even say what happened.
1:07:28
They don't say that Robyn had sex and she got pregnant.
1:07:32
And like, they don't actually use the language of what
1:07:35
happened. It's all this like metaphoric,
1:07:36
you know, purity and blah, blah,
1:07:39
And it's just it's gross. And it's gross that I followed
1:07:41
it. Like I'm like, yeah, I, I, we
1:07:43
all. Knew what it was about.
1:07:44
We all knew. What it was about?
1:07:45
And oh hey, in case we didn't make this clear enough, the
1:07:48
story is about her. Both stories are about her.
1:07:52
Like what the fuck was that? Both of these made-up real
1:07:55
stories from made-up real girls.
1:07:57
That didn't even flow. Yeah, I know it was.
1:08:00
She's such an idiot. The throwing and the clanking of
1:08:07
It made that much noise on carpet.
1:08:09
Bitch, get out of town. Biggest mistake of all, Robyn,
1:08:14
when you threw it on the ground,
1:08:17
threw it on the ground, Lonely Island style.
1:08:21
Missed opportunity. Missed opportunity.
1:08:25
So my shit stain this week has
1:08:29
Robyn's partner in crime. His belief in Robyn's story, You
1:08:33
know that he's obviously super
1:08:38
be reborn as a pure woman before
1:08:43
And then sitting there next to
1:08:47
receiving her gift. And he was very somber during
1:08:50
the entire thing. It's like he was looking at her,
1:08:53
looking at the ground, looking
1:08:56
Some of the other wives that they were giving a sermon.
1:08:58
I would suspect that he would interrupt with his own little
1:09:01
two cents about what it should
1:09:04
Or let me tell you what she said.
1:09:05
Let me summarize it for you. Instead.
1:09:07
It was Robyn's sermon, so he sat
1:09:10
though it was the one sermon that probably should have been
1:09:12
interrupted. You share your shame, darling,
1:09:15
and you share your mistakes and I'm going to sit here and share
1:09:17
in your shame with you and I'm
1:09:20
It gave me really weird vibes.
1:09:26
for sure. Almost feels forced and like
1:09:31
he's forcing her hand because she should be ashamed of this
1:09:35
and thank God she's done the work so that she could give me
1:09:39
her purity again. It's it's got gross vibes.
1:09:43
And then of course, the talk about financing for college.
1:09:46
He's just always looking on the dark side, making things harder
1:09:50
for people than they need to be and then holding them to these
1:09:54
standards that are not even necessary and hard and
1:09:58
challenging. And of course, trying to dig a
1:10:01
hole in the backyard by himself and looking ridiculous.
1:10:04
And the whole ending about Meri's baby decision and how he
1:10:08
already probably thinks she shouldn't do it, which they're
1:10:11
avoiding saying, they're both avoiding saying for this
1:10:14
storyline. I guess I don't really know.
1:10:17
But he's alluding to the fact that he's having, what does he
1:10:19
say? His thoughts are adjusting.
1:10:22
So, you know, who knows what the
1:10:24
And that it's been half a month since they moved in.
1:10:27
So obviously it's time to have
1:10:29
You've gone back and forth on this for five years and now it's
1:10:32
half a month in? Got to make that decision, Buck.
1:10:35
Kody. The whole thing's gross and Kody
1:10:37
gets my shit stain. Are they setting Leon up for
1:10:40
another meltdown, breakdown, disappointment by not just being
1:10:45
honest and saying you cannot afford to go to this school?
1:10:49
A $10,000 scholarship isn't going to get you Jack shit.
1:10:52
You need to look at other schools.
1:10:54
Only time will tell, darling. Our keep Sweet moment this week
1:10:59
comes to us from a comment on Spotify from Meg's Over Easy,
1:11:05
which I love. Meg's Over easy and Meg's Over
1:11:08
Easy said on our second episode of season 6, Four Lives of
1:11:12
Kody's Wives. Meri being too busy masturbating
1:11:16
while talking to strangers online may be cackle out loud.
1:11:19
Also, the other wives don't watch Christine's kids.
1:11:22
What about their dad? He can't help out either.
1:11:26
Trash. Agree agree.
1:11:29
So it's supposed to be the other
1:11:31
watch Christine's kids while she's doing things?
1:11:34
What about their fucking father?
1:11:36
Hello Amazing point Megs. We megs megs amazing point
1:11:40
because we didn't actually say that.
1:11:42
We talked about the other wives watching the kids and it's like
1:11:44
what about their fucking dad? Hello.
1:11:46
True, True. True.
1:11:47
Great point, and we are glad that you got a cackle out of
1:11:51
Meri masturbating while talking to strangers online, because
1:11:54
rumor has it, but that's very true.
1:11:57
A rumour has it. A rumour has it.