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  Hello. And welcome to another episode
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  of the Christian. We've podcast today's guests.
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  That's right. Guests with the plural is a
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  two-piece comedy band all the way from Pennsylvania.
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  They go by the name, the noise noodles.
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  Welcome to the show, guys. How's it going?
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  Going pretty good. Yep, going pretty well.
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  How are you doing? Yeah, not bad.
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  Not bad. I was worried that I wasn't
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  gonna get a response and we just sit there, awkwardly for like a
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  minute, go then. Let's let's jump straight into
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  it guys. How did you actually get into
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  comedy? Where did it begin for you guys?
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  I guess it. Mainly we just wanted to do some
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  sort of project whether it be film or music or something and
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  we just stumbled upon the idea of making just songs with just
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  these goofy lyrics that just worked with the Styles we played
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  and stuff. Yeah, so I Joe guys most of our
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  like musical Aspect he plays most of the instruments on our
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  recordings. I do a lot of vocals and I write
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  a lot of our lyrics I'm DJ and so I can speak a little bit more
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  on that. I don't know.
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  I always have loved comedy and it's always been something I've
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  loved doing and they're just some bands.
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  Like The Lonely Island hearing like things.
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  The South Park movie soundtrack? Just like inspired me to like,
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  bring more comedy to the music world.
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  It's an interesting kind of area really?
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  Because, well, there are obviously, like, you know, big
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  names out there like the first band I thought of when I was
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  sort of doing research and you guys was Tenacious D.
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  And yeah, I mean, I think it's is a combination of two things
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  because it's like, you know, it's one thing being a comedy
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  act in a music, former base. Another thing being, you know,
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  musicians as well, you know, it's kind of too kind of spheres
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  so to speak. But as far as like, I don't
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  know, if you could say they like, the genre comedy music,
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  like, I don't see like loads and loads of bands, General.
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  I mean, it's kind of almost still Niche even though there's
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  these big breakthrough acts like The Lonely Island and Tenacious
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  D. It's like it's still kind of
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  feels Niche which is kind of interesting to me, you know?
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  Yeah, it's fun. I've been able to find a couple
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  other Really good bands through like trying to research some of
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  that I was recently into one called King Missile that I liked
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  a lot and they're like we're like comedy.
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  And we like if we fit into another genre more closely, it's
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  like rock and so there's similar to that which was pretty cool to
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  see. And like, see you mentioned
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  before about how the sort of General Starr Is that Joe does
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  like the more musical elements and I presume then that you do
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  the lyrics. Is that right?
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  Yeah, that's right. Okay.
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  So like when you guys come together and you kind of
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  approach songwriting like how does it go like do you do you
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  kind of come with stuff prepared or do you kind of like jam on
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  the spot like what's the songwriting process though?
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  I guess it usually depends on what song were doing.
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  Sometimes we'll have an idea in our head and I want to know what
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  it sounds like musical. He'll have an idea of like what
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  we want to do lyrically. So I'll try to put the Rhythm
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  Rhythm down and see if he can find a way to write lyrics on
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  top of that. And just go from there and work
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  with what we have is always interesting to me because
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  there's like different kind of like Styles, you can sorry, not
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  different styles, different orders you can do it.
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  You can do it that way, which is actually how I used to write
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  songs as well, but I've actually flipped and done the other way
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  now. So like I start kind of like
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  jamming, And then writing as I go, which is a really
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  ineffective way to do it. But you know, whatever works,
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  right? I think Danny was going to say
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  something as well. Did you have some time?
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  Yeah. It's kind of fun because a lot
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  of our songs start with one of us texting.
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  The other one we should write a song about this and then the
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  other person just like taking it from there.
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  A lot of the time when I write out the Eric's to something,
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  when we go to record, I'll just go to Joe and I'll be like, hey,
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  I think it should sound like this genre of music, like, maybe
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  like this song. Song a little bit and then he's
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  able to just kind of pick it up and we have like a good
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  shorthand between us because like we're cousins, we grew up
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  together. So it's like we can just say
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  something and the other person can just pick it up and know
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  what we're talking about from there.
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  Which is really nice. It's cool.
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  Yeah, almost like intuitive in a sense, it's good.
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  I think a lot of the time when you're in a band it's kind of It
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  was all about the chemistry, isn't it?
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  You know, I know obviously this is a two-part element in its
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  about the comedy as much as it is about the music but like
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  still when you're when you're writing music, you need people
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  that you have chemistry with so makes sense.
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  Obviously, you guys being a family, you've got that sort of
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  connection right there and that kind of just makes things a
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  little bit easier and okay. So this next question is very
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  subjective. I don't think there are any
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  right or wrong answers, but in your opinion, what makes good
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  comedy That's a hard one, I know, I know it's because I
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  thought about it when I was writing the question, I think is
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  relative, isn't it? Your humor might not be my human
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  and vice versa but it's I don't know.
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  I think it's still interesting to know.
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  Yeah, I think so. I also on top of like, the band
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  stuff I've started writing and trying to perform stand-up,
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  okay? And so I think like, if there's
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  if there's a Common Thread through like the music and the
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  stand-up, it's that it takes, I think comedy takes a lot of
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  things. It could be an ordinary thing or
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  something. That's already odd.
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  And it just Except to its extreme a lot of the time.
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  I think that's a pretty Common Thread through it.
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  And I think a lot of it is based in like something real, like our
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  first EP, some of my favorite lines are like there.
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  A lot of our character we do like store a story-based EP and
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  a lot of the characters are super like just out there and
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  weird but then I'll have lines that it's like something super A
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  real. And it's like something that
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  like about like a detail about their life that you wouldn't
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  expect from that kind of Goofy character.
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  I was just something like really like maybe serious from someone
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  who's always just cracking jokes all the time.
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  Yeah, exactly. You can see that.
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  This is my topic. You may already know she's what,
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  since we're talking about that log, where do you guys actually
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  draw the line? When it comes to that, like you
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  said, you mentioned before, like obviously you're trying to kind
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  of reach to Of to an extreme. And I think there are many
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  comedians out there especially like stand-up comedians.
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  Such as Frankie Boyle Ricky. Gervais sand said, sure.
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  They always seem to be trying to push the envelope.
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  Like, where is the line? Where's the Line, like, where is
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  too far? And I do wonder about this
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  sometimes, like, is there too far?
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  You know, there's some people that say like, you shouldn't
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  make for instance, jokes about war or the Holocaust or
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  something stuff like that. And then there are other people
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  that say, wow, you know, I mean you should in theory Be able to
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  make comedy about anything. There should be no limits and
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  it's kind of almost like similar to the whole Free Speech debate.
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  But like, for you guys, personally, where do you draw
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  the line? Where's too far?
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  Who is there to fall? I know as far as like our music
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  personally, I don't really want to get.
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  I like it's just goofy. Stupid humor.
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  I don't want to get like political or real with people.
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  Hmm. I'd much prefer to stick to
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  something. That's just like sort of a here.
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  Where have we're here too. I have a good time.
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  Kind of vibe if that makes sense.
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  Yeah, I know I'm getting like too real or to serious that were
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  joking about just, hey, here's something funny.
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  I think it gives you more Universal appeal as well because
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  like obviously a lot of time when you are being more
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  offensive or you know just appealing to certain parts of
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  the audience. It just enolates you from other
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  people. So like if you think of
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  something like mr. Bean as an example like that,
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  that's just applicable anywhere. You don't even have to know
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  English to understand. That because obviously, it's
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  more like slapstick and whatnot. Yeah, I get that man.
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  And of course yet from the perspective of just wanted to
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  have fun as well. I obviously yeah yeah.
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  One thing I want to know. Have you have you guys actually
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  performed this live obviously pre covid or whatever.
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  Like have you had a chance to do this life?
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  We want to, it's just hard because we both live three hours
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  away, right? You know, I get a lot of the
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  stuff we do recording one. Yeah, a lot of the stuff we do.
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  Music wise is remote, hmm. We're be it.
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  Sending files to each other with different instruments, stuff
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  like that either also writing lyrics, like obviously three
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  hours away. So Yeah, no, I get that.
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  And I guess what I'm asking is, as far as that live performance
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  is concerned. Obviously, Daniel mentioned
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  earlier about, you know, he's sort of experimenting with
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  stand-up comedy and stuff like that.
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  And I wonder like when you guys play Live is eventually, like
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  when covid isn't an issue anymore, is there the plan to
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  kind of just come on? Treat it almost like a standard
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  music show and just perform the songs and have fun that way or
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  do you want to kind of structure it in a way where it's like, The
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  songs are part of it, but it's part of like a comedy show where
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  you have like stand-up in between and stuff like that,
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  because there are many musicians out there that do that there's
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  an Australian musician by the name of Tim Minchin.
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  Believe his name is, who does something like that?
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  Bill Bailey from the UK does. The same thing?
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  Is that kind of what you're going for?
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  You going to go for something different.
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  So we've thought about this a little bit, there's like Bo.
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  Is another. Yes, I like him a lot but I kind
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  of so Jo doesn't do stand-up. And I kind of separated a little
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  bit. What I thought of that I think
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  would be cool is for me to be like our opener.
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  So like I open with stand up and then later on, we get into the
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  music. I would hate though, for like
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  Joe to just be like, standing on stage doing nothing.
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  Well, I'm just like talking. You don't waste his Stone.
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  Just like, look cool at the side of the road, just gonna be like,
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  yeah, you do the work. I don't give a fuck.
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  Here's a funny thing as well. But ways, I just on a late.
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  Now, I read this story recently, so you'll notice every now and
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  again, when they, when they played live back in the day that
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  obviously Liam would go off stage and I know would just play
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  the songs and then would be doing something.
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  And apparently, in the beginning, the reason that Liam
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  did that Is that he needed a break to rest his voice.
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  That's what he told null, but then he would go and basically
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  Juggalo the beer smoke and do everything that you shouldn't do
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  before you go and perform a song.
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  That's a just wanted. He's just lazy.
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  Yeah. So what are your kind of main
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  goals and aspirations within the sphere of Comedy?
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  We often think Weston's here on the Christian re podcast.
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  I think, I think for me, It's just like getting people to
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  laugh, is the goal. Like whether that a few people,
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  like, I know, like, some of our songs have become like memes
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  within just my friend group and just even being able to see that
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  has been really fun, and then there's, there's a podcast by an
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  American football player and then a I fell player who played
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  our music on his podcast and like he gets like 300,000 views
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  and episode. So we've had like a decent run
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  off from that and just like seeing that and seeing a bunch
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  of people come from him and common just like going along
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  with the joke on our channel has been really cool.
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  So yeah, just like being able to see people like get the joke is
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  a fun thing in and of itself. That's awesome.
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  Yeah, I mean congratulations, first of all and secondly yeah,
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  that mean that that's all it takes really, isn't it?
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  Like, sometimes I lie? What, I hope the same thing with
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  regards to what I do because it's like all it takes is for
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  one person that big following to Showcase you and boom.
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  You start building something, you know, and that's the kind of
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  the key, isn't it? I mean, you mentioned yeah about
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  sort of having like these sort of like meme style drugs to
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  obviously at this point would be like more like inside.
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  With your friends. But obviously, once you start
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  building that community and they track you from the beginning,
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  you can kind of like follow that progression onwards, and then
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  kind of be part of the joke. So you like you want to be
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  included so that you're in on the jokes and you get them like
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  it's funny. Like sometimes I'll watch some
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  of my favorite YouTubers and they do like, you know, I ready
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  videos and stuff. And without any context, if you
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  never watch their content, you have no idea why a lot of that
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  stuff is funny. Obviously, once you keep up with
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  them, it's like now you get the jokes.
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  So it's almost like more incentive to actually, keep up
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  to date with what's going on in that sense.
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  Because, like, you know, I've always just, you won't know what
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  the jokes are. It's kind of fun because like
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  we've had the song that got played on that podcast, was like
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  the first single we released. And it's called, I am caveman.
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  And the entire joke of the song is that it's just a song written
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  in caveman, speak. And it's the first song we had
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  ever written. But we like like Joe said, meet
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  me at different points, just different like remixes that he
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  made of it and like stuff like usually like like four other
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  songs, it see, like fans of the band making these remixes of it,
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  but it was just Joe making it, which is kind of fun.
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  And it's like that's just like Like we were just like having
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  fun with it and like meeting our own song, which was pretty fun.
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  I got to say and I don't take this the wrong way but like when
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  I first heard the first song because because I had no
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  context, I thought you were just like musicians or something.
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  So I heard the first song and I was like, what the fuck is?
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  This is and then I started like listening to because I always
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  give something a chance. That's something I learned from
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  years ago, just with music in general.
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  Always get something a proper chance before you kind of go.
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  Okay, I'm done with this. And then I started listening to
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  the rest of the The songs and I was like, there's something
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  here. I don't know what it is, but
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  there's something here and I think it's because the thing is
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  you can you can try and be funny in life.
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  You can try and be, you know, comedian but like only some
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  people get it. Some people don't have it.
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  Like I've said, quite often on my streams and podcasts that,
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  like, I would never do comedy. The most I would ever do is
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  maybe like sketch now and again, because I don't consider myself
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  to be a funny person. I think there's a particular
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  mindset that you have to have and You know, it's not easy.
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  People think like, I just messing around fucking around,
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  but not there has to be some structure within it as well.
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  And when I was listening to that to your music, I did kind of
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  hear that here and there and particularly the kind of Insider
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  joke aspect as well. I could tell, obviously, if
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  you're continuing member of your of your of your work, then
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  there's that kind of Likelihood. That you going to find it?
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  Much funnier? Basically.
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  Yeah, it's so we have an album coming out February 14th and we
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  so a lot of the songs on there are just like like we have a
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  song about a character named Short Round from Indiana Jones
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  and the Temple of Doom just because like we think he's a
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  really funny character and we've been making It's about him for a
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  while and it's just like it would be fun if like these like
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  inside jokes that we've been joking about for like 5-10 years
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  just like Ken like other people can joke with us about it.
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  Yeah I guess I gotta there's something that I heard years ago
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  which I think perfectly kind of describes comedy.
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  Is that like the funniest person you'll ever meet is like you
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  know, in a bar Or like your uncle or something like that.
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  But like actually, when you're trying to do what you like what
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  you guys are doing, which is, you know, extend your humor to
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  an audience. It's much harder to do that to
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  capture that, that funniness of like probably like for example
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  the first time that you guys sat down and like, wrote one of
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  these songs I would wager, nine times out of ten.
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  He probably pissing yourselves laughing for, like a good half
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  an hour before you go. Okay, now let's actually turn
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  this into something and that's good.
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  That's what you want to share. Isn't it with that audience?
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  It's it's funny because I can remember the first time we wrote
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  a song because we were sitting at a table at a Taco Bell and we
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  wrote it on a napkin and we had this idea like, I don't know, it
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  was the timing, whatever, but we're sitting there and we're
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  like, all right, we have this idea for a song.
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  We have to write this down now or we're going to forget
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  everything. So I call right?
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  Talk about napkin. Let's do it.
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  Some reason that reminds me of spying on you guys seen that
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  movie, right? Yeah, yeah.
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  Like Sox playing for the viewers at home.
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  So basically there's this movie called spinal tap.
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  I think it was released in the 80s and it's a mockumentary
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  about a band. Fictional band who actually
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  could actually play the instruments, I found out later
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  which was weird but basically they're all actors and the story
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  is it's like a band that's like their career has gone to the
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  shits and this is like a reunions tour.
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  Blah, blah blah. And it's just a series of just
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  iconic jokes after iconic Jose slam.
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  For instance, there's the famous joke of, you know, the
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  interviewer kind of saying like oh why don't they just make, you
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  know, the 10, the loudest on the amp and then that I just have 10
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  as the as the highest volume and then the guys just kind of the
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  guitarist is blankly just staring at it.
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  And goes. He's goes up to 11 by that which
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  to buy, maybe, I don't know, maybe it's just that sort of
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  deadpan British humor that I find in it.
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  But anyway, the thing that reminded me based on your story
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  was, there's a bit where they're actually sitting in the bar or
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  some sort of area and there. Basically, they want to have,
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  they have this song called Stonehenge, and they want to
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  have like a gigantic Stonehenge Monument on stage that they can,
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  you know, add as part of the background, and they draw out
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  the dimensions on a napkin, and they give it to.
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  I don't know, whoever their props guy or whatever.
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  And so, then it comes to the day of the show.
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  And instead of delivering an actual, you know, to scale
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  Stonehenge Monument. They deliver exactly what was on
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  that napkin. The exact dimensions, which is
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  probably not what like meat a meat along.
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  Now, if that, that probably like 50 cm, I don't know tiny and
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  they put it on stage and then I don't know what you could add
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  dwarf, a little person starts, sort of dancing around it and
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  they all just looking on stage, but will It going, what the fuck
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  is going on? And then the best bit, I think
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  is afterwards when they're all shouting at each other going ape
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  shit about the fact that they don't have this brother
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  Stonehenge Monument. The like I gave you the exact
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  dimensions on this napkin and it's like, yeah.
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  But we followed them exactly. The dimensions 5x5 like meters
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  or whatever it is that, you know.
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  It's supposed to be like, 50, what have you seen Stonehenge?
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  It's like this gigantic. I love.
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  I've never really thought about comparing like us to spinal tap
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  before, but it's like, I kind of like that because it's like, we
• 22:33
  have some one of the jokes in that movie.
• 22:36
  Is that like the drummer keeps dying?
• 22:40
  Oh, yeah. Forgot.
• 22:42
  And we like, we have a joke where it's like, neither of us,
• 22:47
  plays drums. All of our drums are like,
• 22:51
  electronic through go. Raj band.
• 22:54
  And so we had a joke for a little bit where we were like,
• 23:00
  doing credits of who played what on each song.
• 23:04
  And then, for the drums, we came up with a fake name and their
• 23:08
  nickname was the robot and their their initials were GB, which is
• 23:14
  the same initials as GarageBand. Nice, you could have a run it.
• 23:21
  I mean, this is just Stressed. You can have a running joke that
• 23:24
  like you're actually haunted and this drama, but he's a ghost.
• 23:29
  You don't know who he is, but he's haunting you and somehow
• 23:31
  every time you finish these songs miraculously, the drum
• 23:35
  track just appears out of nowhere.
• 23:38
  It is shows, I've been all the sudden while mixing.
• 23:40
  There's just a drum track there in the middle.
• 23:45
  I've had a lot of different ideas.
• 23:52
  I want us to do for drums to. I've had some, I've had some fun
• 23:57
  ideas with that. I think that's where this this
• 24:02
  will really come into its element when you when you get
• 24:04
  that kind of live show going because I think that's Sir with
• 24:07
  comedy, a lot of it. I mean, it depends and we'll get
• 24:10
  on to like what you guys do on YouTube in a second.
• 24:12
  But like I do think that live shows for most performers for
• 24:17
  especially for comedians is like the ultimate isn't it?
• 24:20
  They often say like in the sphere of comedy in general.
• 24:22
  Neural stand-up comedy is like the best thing to do and I think
• 24:25
  it's because that audience interaction, like you don't know
• 24:27
  what you're going to get, maybe they're just sit and listen to
• 24:29
  the jokes. Maybe they'll become part of the
• 24:30
  show. You just don't know but I I love
• 24:37
  improv as well as of that and I've played around a little bit
• 24:41
  with that and I want to get more into it in the future it's like
• 24:46
  and that's even more like, whatever the crowds giving you
• 24:49
  you just run with it. So I think improvs really fun in
• 24:56
  that way as well. Yeah, I think it's a solid
• 24:58
  whenever musician like as a musician it just playing live
• 25:02
  shows us something I always wanted to do and if fans are
• 25:05
  into it and there with the music, I want to try to get them
• 25:09
  pumped up throughout the entirety of the show and just
• 25:12
  keep them going. Absolutely.
• 25:14
  I mean, I think that look I'll give you an example, it's
• 25:16
  partially related, but with the audience interaction thing, it
• 25:20
  can often kind of give you content that you wouldn't have
• 25:24
  otherwise come up with. So like I have a friend who does
• 25:27
  freestyle rapping, right? And it's amazing.
• 25:30
  He's so rapper from South Africa.
• 25:32
  Shout out to Buck MasterCard in. This is like the fifth time of
• 25:35
  shortage on the podcast now. But anyway, so he does these
• 25:38
  Instagram, he calls it freestyle relay and he basically it puts a
• 25:42
  beat on and he goes right. Send me a word or a topic and I
• 25:48
  just like to fuck with him. So I'll just put like, really
• 25:51
  weird Scenarios like, oh, I want you to rap about the guy who
• 25:56
  farts in the lift or like, you know, rap about what it's like
• 26:01
  to, you know, eat cereal when there's like, you know, you've
• 26:05
  just had toothpaste in your mouth and just like really weird
• 26:08
  stuff and like, just see how I can test it and he always knocks
• 26:12
  it out of the park. But that that kind of element of
• 26:15
  having that person who, who froze you that stuff, like
• 26:18
  that's something that you only get from my sort of a live
• 26:20
  interaction, you know, beer. online or all yeah fruit through
• 26:24
  a live show and I think that with you guys that would be like
• 26:27
  a really good kind of thing that you can incorporate into your
• 26:30
  act and have fun with potentially The moving it
• 26:35
  Forward, I mentioned YouTube. Yes, you also produce other
• 26:38
  forms of content such as Vlogs podcasts and comedy sketches,
• 26:43
  which types of content? Do you like to sort of produce
• 26:47
  the most out of all of those? We've had a lot of fun with the
• 26:51
  sketches more. Recently, we both are.
• 26:56
  I mean, obviously, like the pantheon of sketch.
• 26:59
  Comedy is like a Chanel. And we both love that and had
• 27:04
  been talking about that. I, I took acting classes for
• 27:09
  about eight years in my youth, and so I kind of had that
• 27:15
  background with it. And so, for a while I had been
• 27:18
  like, oh, we should Next. Other than just music and then
• 27:24
  eventually, Joe came along with that idea.
• 27:28
  And so, that's, I think that's what I've had.
• 27:31
  The most fun with outside the bar music.
• 27:34
  Yeah. Me too.
• 27:35
  I because I'm a huge fan of sketch comedy.
• 27:38
  I love watching SNL and I've always been interested in it and
• 27:41
  wanted to try to get into it and being that were comedy band and
• 27:44
  we wanted to do other forms of entertainment.
• 27:47
  I think noise did those was a great way to start trying to
• 27:50
  write sketches and get into that.
• 27:52
  So yeah. Are you looking to build like
• 27:53
  more of a brand than? So it's not just going to be a
• 27:55
  music act, it's going to be like you know, that like music will
• 27:59
  be a big part of it obviously but it's not going to be you
• 28:03
  know, the the be saw the end of your kind of Offering so to
• 28:09
  speak. Yeah, exactly.
• 28:12
  Yeah. Like to think, first and
• 28:13
  foremost were a band, but the other stuff kind of brings it
• 28:18
  together in a way. Hmm, gives us other outlets to
• 28:22
  put our comedy into a be interesting to see how you guys
• 28:26
  develop that. I mean, that was one of the
• 28:27
  first things that I noticed when I was looking at the YouTube, I
• 28:29
  was like, there's there's legs with this, I think, and
• 28:32
  especially, within within comedy.
• 28:34
  There's like so many different things that you can do.
• 28:36
  And if, if you are funny I There you go.
• 28:39
  That's all you really needed. You know, that and like a degree
• 28:43
  of creativity I suppose as far as like coming up with different
• 28:46
  types of ideas and such. Yeah.
• 28:49
  And want to like one of my favorite things.
• 28:52
  Like whenever I find a new comedian that I'm really into,
• 28:56
  I'll look up like all of their like late night, TV appearances,
• 29:00
  all of their interviews and stuff.
• 29:02
  And so, I think it's a, it's cool for us to be able to like,
• 29:09
  Like we don't have to like, do any of that kind of stuff for
• 29:14
  any of, like potential fans to see who we are, like bull can
• 29:19
  just right away. Go to our Channel.
• 29:21
  And right there they have like they can look at our Vlogs and
• 29:25
  see us and our natural lives like they can see sketches and
• 29:30
  see other ideas, see more of like us like acting so I like
• 29:38
  That's something I had as a goal for us was to like, just be
• 29:42
  really open as creators right off the bat.
• 29:46
  Absolutely what kind of new types of content or just I don't
• 29:52
  know what, what is your 2021? Look like.
• 29:54
  What's the plan? So you mentioned the album
• 29:59
  that's coming out in February but what else?
• 30:01
  Yeah. So after the album we already
• 30:04
  have a couple sketches, a couple more sketches that we've written
• 30:08
  and we just need to find time to record.
• 30:12
  I think we've decided like the album took a lot of time.
• 30:16
  And as being, like we said, three hours apart from each
• 30:20
  other, like, was very taxing to be able to record.
• 30:25
  So we're looking at a lot more shorter projects, probably a few
• 30:29
  singles and some covers and we're trying to get we recorded
• 30:37
  one episode of a podcast and we're hoping to do a little bit
• 30:41
  more of that we're both in University right now.
• 30:45
  So, That's a bit difficult with like trying to find time but
• 30:51
  that's that's a lot of what we're looking to do this year.
• 30:55
  What are you guys studying? We're both psych Majors, right?
• 31:00
  Yep. We're both studying psychology.
• 31:04
  Okay? Cool, cool.
• 31:06
  And yeah you how far you guys into that first year?
• 31:09
  Second year I'm graduating in May I was a it's gonna be a good
• 31:18
  fight. I gradually in the fall and then
• 31:21
  I plan on trying to go get my masters and move onto my side e
• 31:26
  after that. That's not being like a
• 31:29
  psychologist and a comedian. That's gotta fuck with people's
• 31:32
  heads that way and yeah. His idea is, there's a there's a
• 31:40
  comedian. I really like named Ben Schwartz
• 31:42
  who like has acted in a lot of stuff and it's done a lot of
• 31:45
  improv who he, he also graduated with a psychology degree and so
• 31:52
  I saw that and I was pretty pretty hype about that.
• 31:56
  Someone hasn't already taken the mantle of like doctor comedy.
• 32:00
  I'll be very amazed because that's just sitting there right
• 32:04
  there too. Just waiting to be grabbed by
• 32:07
  come on, you mentioned a podcast there.
• 32:11
  Is that something just between you guys because as well as
• 32:16
  another thing that I think would be interesting to hear is this
• 32:19
  you guys fucking around having a laugh like I think surely
• 32:22
  that's, that's something that you should be doing.
• 32:25
  Yeah, a podcast is right now. It's just us to just kind of
• 32:30
  talk in about whatever we can think of.
• 32:33
  Okay. Personally I'd like to get gas
• 32:35
  On at some point because I think having more people could lead to
• 32:39
  funnier and better conversations.
• 32:42
  Do you think it will be just having like just a little chats
• 32:46
  in general? Maybe just sharing stories.
• 32:49
  Like I had a podcast or on here recently, who's also a comedian
• 32:52
  as well as funny how these things work out.
• 32:54
  And she had this idea of basically people talking about
• 32:58
  like they're wild nights out, which I think, you know, that's
• 33:01
  right there. You've got.
• 33:02
  It could potentially be really bad, really good, really funny,
• 33:04
  you know. Or no, like do you have
• 33:06
  something in mind like that? Or is it just kind of more like
• 33:09
  let's just have a laugh. Let's just have a chat.
• 33:10
  See what happens. Yeah, I think we're a lot.
• 33:14
  We're very just like conversational and I know
• 33:18
  definitely for me I have a personality where most of the
• 33:24
  time I can just sit down in a zoom call and I Just Vibe with
• 33:28
  the people that are in it and like I like just being able to
• 33:32
  talk to people and like, like really See like really just feel
• 33:38
  who they are through conversation.
• 33:41
  Hmm, absolutely, yeah. Now I have to say, actually
• 33:45
  throughout the course of this podcast, I do especially because
• 33:49
  it didn't always used to be a video podcast that used to be or
• 33:52
  the, or only, which I thought was more preferable preferable.
• 33:56
  But now I've realized like actually, no, it's much better
• 33:58
  when you can see the people, because you can see how they're
• 34:00
  reacting, you'll also see if they're comfortable as well.
• 34:02
  That's something that isn't always the case.
• 34:05
  You know, it's like something something that I really try hard
• 34:07
  to do, is to make my guests for as comfortable as possible
• 34:10
  because it is an uncomfortable situation is sitting there.
• 34:13
  You don't know what the person is going to ask.
• 34:15
  You don't know what to expect and like, sometimes people have
• 34:18
  like an agenda or they have like, it has to be like this.
• 34:22
  You don't know if you can talk a lot or a little but you don't
• 34:24
  know, you just don't know. And like, I've been a guest on
• 34:28
  other people's shows as well and I think obviously I feel more
• 34:33
  comfortable when it's my podcast.
• 34:35
  You know when I'm on other people's shows, it's a bit like
• 34:38
  yeah that first that first five minutes is like very telling
• 34:42
  like we'll see how this goes, you know, and I've never I've
• 34:45
  never had like a bad experience per se but there have been times
• 34:48
  when I've been on people's shows where you know, maybe I would
• 34:50
  have liked to have talked more about certain thing or pack 5
• 34:55
  times. When people interrupt me a lot,
• 34:57
  which I can't stand that shit. I don't know about you guys but
• 35:01
  you know, if one person is talking, you shut the fuck up
• 35:04
  and let speak you listen and then you have your turn like
• 35:08
  tennis, you know, it's I've had some good ones because I so I
• 35:16
  have been both of us have been trying to guest on like, as many
• 35:19
  podcasts as we can because we're like, obviously we're a small
• 35:24
  band, we don't have a publicist and we don't have like a pressed
• 35:28
  toward announce our album, but I basically, I do a lot of like
• 35:33
  our business is business. And we don't make money.
• 35:36
  We run a loss every year, but I run like our business and, and
• 35:43
  like, have been appearing on a bunch of podcasts.
• 35:46
  And it's like interesting to see just everyone's different style
• 35:51
  of like interviewing and like I have the most fun on them when
• 35:56
  it's just like a conversation and it's not like they're
• 36:01
  willing to just kind of roll with whatever we're and up and
• 36:07
  they're not like tied to their questions, like the questions
• 36:10
  are in Avenue to get us to talk about stuff and have a
• 36:12
  conversation with them. Yeah and I think that's a very
• 36:16
  important element. You do have to kind of I got to
• 36:20
  be kind of like water. Do you know what I mean?
• 36:22
  Like, I don't know. That sounds like a weird analogy
• 36:23
  but like go with like what your guest is is giving you.
• 36:27
  You know, like it's very frustrating with like you're a
• 36:30
  particular person, you're a particular way and this other
• 36:33
  person is trying to get you to like no no you go in my box and
• 36:37
  you do what I want you to do and it's like fine.
• 36:42
  I mean, I'm a guest on your show and, you know, that especially
• 36:46
  knowing that you're an Entertainer as well.
• 36:48
  It's like what? Can be more entertaining.
• 36:50
  If you just let me be entertaining posted, just like
• 36:55
  putting these fucking limits on me.
• 36:59
  I'm not renting at all guys. Anyway, let's talk about
• 37:06
  something a little bit serious. I just want to know like what
• 37:09
  the response has been to soar covid-19 in Pennsylvania, where
• 37:14
  you guys are from, like just, you know, how's it been for you?
• 37:17
  What's it been like over? Were there because I do find it
• 37:20
  interesting country by country and I've had guests from around
• 37:24
  the world on this podcast. But something is interesting
• 37:26
  about the states is that every single state is almost like a
• 37:29
  mini country and of itself to some places are more laid-back,
• 37:33
  some places are more restricted. What's it been like in
• 37:36
  Pennsylvania, I think is p has been a little bit more strict
• 37:46
  than certain States. I don't think we're the most
• 37:49
  strict State about things, but we've had a couple, like, we had
• 37:56
  the initial, like, everything was shut down for a while.
• 37:59
  And then like, about a month ago, we had all like restaurants
• 38:06
  and everything. Shut down again.
• 38:10
  So that's we've had a lot of like, it's been very like
• 38:15
  changing. It feels like every week.
• 38:18
  There's like a new rule that we have to pay attention to and
• 38:22
  it's getting to the point where I'm starting to lose track of
• 38:25
  all of it but we've had biggest thing.
• 38:33
  My yeah, my biggest thing is because I started Transfer it
• 38:37
  over to a new school in the fall and they switch to all online
• 38:42
  courses and stuff. And that's just, it's been
• 38:45
  extremely hard. Trying to start at a new school
• 38:47
  when you can't talk to any professors or anything in person
• 38:51
  and like I haven't even visited the campus yet for real.
• 38:55
  Yeah, wow. It's nuts course, but yes, but
• 38:59
  so your entire first year you haven't.
• 39:03
  Wow, fuck. That's mad to think about Yeah,
• 39:08
  and so that's that's having like my senior year, be like all
• 39:13
  online so far or for the most part.
• 39:17
  And it's like, I just can't hang out with all my friends all the
• 39:20
  time. A lot of them aren't even here
• 39:23
  at campus. The only reason I'm here is
• 39:25
  because I have an apartment with some of my friends and like,
• 39:33
  Yeah, so that's been pretty sucky.
• 39:35
  Yeah. It's the worst time to be a
• 39:37
  student right now. I mean, like when I think back
• 39:39
  to my degree, I'm just I feel so lucky that it happened when it
• 39:43
  happened, because right now, it's, it's a frustrating thing
• 39:47
  as well. Because it's like there's
• 39:48
  nothing anyone can do about it. It's like it would be
• 39:52
  irresponsible to have everyone together in one place.
• 39:55
  We all know this we hear it all the fucking time, but at the
• 39:58
  same time, it's like It's not really uni.
• 40:02
  If you can't be with people and dinner me like, especially, I
• 40:07
  really feel for like first-year students right now because it's
• 40:09
  like, you come into the university and the whole thing
• 40:12
  is, you know, your first year was one part of you.
• 40:14
  That's the whole point because the next two years of your life
• 40:16
  are going to be working your ass off and to not have that is
• 40:21
  like, I mean, it's almost like, well, give me my money, but then
• 40:25
  it's not really part of the deal, but then you can't really
• 40:27
  be angry. Anyone can you, because it's
• 40:29
  like, I mean, It's like okay if this was like an insurance
• 40:32
  situation, this counts under like an act of God or some shit.
• 40:36
  And I'm, it's like you can't really pay out on that basis.
• 40:40
  Like, in the UK, we've got a lot of people, arguing the
• 40:44
  government and stuff like that about while people should get
• 40:46
  their money back. You know, they should get
• 40:48
  subsidies and stuff and, you know, I don't know, really know
• 40:51
  where I sit on that, because I think that's fair for certain
• 40:54
  degrees, but maybe not so much for others, because a lot of
• 40:56
  stuff would be based on line anyway, but like, at the same
• 41:00
  time, I'm it really depends on your degree and some things.
• 41:03
  Yeah. You can't be being able to like,
• 41:05
  physically be with a professor and pick their brains or being
• 41:09
  in a seminar room and being able to talk to people that way.
• 41:11
  And it even just like human interaction in general.
• 41:15
  I learning from other people. And, you know, I could go on
• 41:18
  about this but you get what I'm trying to say.
• 41:20
  Yeah, it's just hard to be motivated for school when you
• 41:23
  can't be in a school setting and talk to Professor's and be with
• 41:27
  other students than just do it from your house.
• 41:29
  It's I don't know. I don't like it.
• 41:32
  Yeah. And like Westlake the like we
• 41:36
  had a couple music festivals that we were planning to try and
• 41:40
  play at and then got cancelled over the summer because it's
• 41:44
  like we were both going to be in the same place for the summer
• 41:47
  and so we were actually going to be able to go do live stuff and
• 41:50
  then that couldn't happen because it covid and then like
• 41:54
  I've had like two or three stand-up performances.
• 41:58
  I was going to do that. Got Pushed back as well.
• 42:01
  And it's just like like I it's hard because I want to sit at
• 42:06
  home and just keep writing stuff, but it's hard to be
• 42:08
  motivated to write stuff when it's just completely uncertain.
• 42:13
  When I'm going to get to perform and actually like test that
• 42:18
  material to an audience. Do you have?
• 42:21
  These because I had around certain places around the
• 42:24
  state's. You got all these socially
• 42:26
  distance events, like there was wrestling events where like
• 42:29
  maybe Only 10% capacity, same for spoiling of.
• 42:34
  I'm not sure if you've done it for sporting events actually
• 42:36
  here in the UK, I don't know if it's still the case now because
• 42:39
  we're in another lock down number three.
• 42:42
  But for a while the Premier League here we had, like, you
• 42:46
  know, 10% capacity. So safe is like a forty thousand
• 42:50
  seat Arena. Maybe a four thousand fans and
• 42:52
  it's doable. Like, you can do it sensibly.
• 42:55
  Do you have things like that? Because I've seen in America and
• 42:59
  also certain parts of UK for about the past year, there's
• 43:02
  been like things like Drive In Style things, if you want to see
• 43:06
  a movie, you can do it that way or or even just socially
• 43:10
  distance comedy. I think, didn't Dave, Chappelle
• 43:12
  do a show that was Outdoors or it was like socially this, its
• 43:16
  repeal all did he did a few shows in like parking lots in
• 43:21
  Ohio. He's like where he lives which
• 43:24
  is like no way. It's a weird Ohio's like a
• 43:28
  really like spread Population and like is like really
• 43:33
  interesting, but that's where he grew up.
• 43:36
  I think so that's like where he lives now.
• 43:39
  But yeah. And we've had that with sports
• 43:41
  to like they didn't have that back when the baseball season
• 43:45
  was happening. But now with the NFL it was
• 43:51
  going state-by-state. So like certain teams were
• 43:54
  allowed to have fans in certain ones.
• 43:58
  Warrant and it's the same thing with basketball with the NBA
• 44:02
  they have. I think there's like three or
• 44:04
  four teams allowing fans for that.
• 44:07
  But makes you think, like, when we're going to actually return
• 44:10
  to some resemblance of normality really.
• 44:14
  Does it mean I was just reading today that for the, for the NFL,
• 44:20
  with the Super Bowl, they're allowing like 7500, like
• 44:26
  Frontline, medical workers who have gotten the vaccine to go to
• 44:31
  the stadium. So, it's like interesting
• 44:35
  because like, we're starting to see the rollout of Vaccine here
• 44:39
  with first responding medical workers, and like, my, my dad's,
• 44:47
  an addictions counselor. So he like was classified with
• 44:50
  that. And he's gotten the vaccine now,
• 44:52
  as well. Then if, if you're able to talk
• 44:56
  about this, but as your dad sort of had more cases, more people,
• 45:02
  you know, because obviously with with a lockdown with
• 45:04
  restrictions, you know, it kind of increases the likelihood.
• 45:07
  We had people do drugs, you know people I know for instance here
• 45:10
  on are slightly related know we've had a massive increase in
• 45:14
  domestic violence. I think it's like 70% 80%.
• 45:18
  Something scary, like that dude. You know if that's increased
• 45:22
  during during that time or. Yeah, definitely.
• 45:25
  So we've Americas in the same thing with domestic violence
• 45:29
  going up, unfortunately, and then yeah, definitely with
• 45:36
  addiction as well. All those numbers have also gone
• 45:40
  up and like amount. I think we've also had like,
• 45:45
  attempted like suicide and like, other stuff like that is gone up
• 45:50
  as well. And like, depression.
• 45:54
  I know that like, I ended up going to counseling over the
• 46:01
  pandemic for a couple reasons, but like definitely being
• 46:04
  isolated was part of that. And it's just not been good for
• 46:09
  anybody's mental health. I don't imagine it has been very
• 46:13
  difficult for me. Actually, I've been because I
• 46:16
  might revise my choice but I chose to move to a different
• 46:19
  city in February of last year. So I don't know anyone here
• 46:23
  haven't been able to make friends or anything and I live
• 46:26
  in a house where I there's people coming and going all the
• 46:28
  time. So I I do see people from time
• 46:32
  to time but ultimately it people like for instance the other day
• 46:34
  someone moved out so there's like two more people.
• 46:37
  In the house, but it's mostly like, there's been times when
• 46:39
  there's been no one and staff and I think there's a certain
• 46:44
  degree of benefits of being fridge and single alone and all
• 46:49
  that. But at the same time, even for
• 46:51
  me, I never thought it would catch up with me, but it has in
• 46:54
  some respects and it's interesting to say the least, I
• 46:59
  know for a fact, if I didn't have this YouTube stuff to do, I
• 47:03
  would probably have lost my night Mind by this point, which
• 47:06
  is quite It's scary to think about it.
• 47:10
  Is what it is? Anyway, moving on, let's let's
• 47:16
  maybe talk about something a bit more funnier.
• 47:18
  Have there been any like crazy stories because we hear about
• 47:22
  this in the UK and we've had some in the UK as well.
• 47:26
  I know the beginning of the first lock down.
• 47:28
  There were people stockpiling on toilet tissue and salmon hand?
• 47:33
  Sanitizers, obviously there's been people stockpiling stuff
• 47:36
  with the Should have selling. It was some crazy shit that
• 47:39
  you've guys have seen. All right?
• 47:41
  So I worked retail for two years, like, I just recently,
• 47:46
  quit when yeah, I just, I went in retail, so I know that.
• 47:52
  That's a good feeling. When you when you do that,
• 47:55
  fantastic. I got a job where I don't have
• 47:57
  to deal with the general public and it is the best, it's so
• 48:01
  great success. But anyway, I like it.
• 48:05
  Got to the point at my store where we We were getting trucks
• 48:08
  like in the thousands, just fill the toilet paper and stuff like
• 48:13
  and I worked at a small little drugstore.
• 48:15
  So our stock room was just completely filled with toilet
• 48:18
  paper and all this stuff because we put it out one day.
• 48:22
  And the next day, just all gone and it was like that for weeks
• 48:25
  and it was nuts. But we had to limit people.
• 48:30
  And in our system, we couldn't scan more than one or two rolls
• 48:34
  of toilet paper. Because We just buy the entire
• 48:38
  store if they could do people reacts like really aggressive
• 48:42
  they just like any kind of situations on your hands or with
• 48:45
  people, right? For the most part people were
• 48:48
  cool. I mean, you get those people
• 48:50
  every once in a while where they're like, oh, that doesn't
• 48:52
  make sense. Why is that their Rule?
• 48:53
  And I'm like, I'm sorry like I don't make the rules if it's a
• 48:56
  corporate thing. I'm sorry, previously, all these
• 49:00
  that marbles, but that I got I made a video on this recently.
• 49:04
  My second Channel about, you know, how to get what you want
• 49:08
  from customer services and then can tell you it.
• 49:10
  Sure as shit isn't by being rude and attacking the guy behind the
• 49:14
  counter or the girl on the phone, it's like he's going to
• 49:16
  be calm. You know, and say stuff like,
• 49:19
  hey, I know it's not your problem.
• 49:21
  Hey, I know that there's something that can be done.
• 49:23
  You can even do the whole manager thing without being a
• 49:26
  dick, it's possible. Yeah.
• 49:29
  It's I've gotten Snappy with my parents about that since I I've
• 49:34
  also worked retail jobs and then like like other like serve it
• 49:38
  like food service jobs too. And so like my, my parents will
• 49:44
  get kind of snippy with people at point so I'll be like, hey,
• 49:46
  this is Not their problem. Now load of time, you'll be
• 49:50
  working for a place and it will have like some dumb fuck rule
• 49:54
  that you know is dumb. Fuck as thing like people assume
• 49:57
  like oh they're working in retail.
• 49:59
  They're working Hospitality they must be idiots.
• 50:01
  They must not understand. No on the contrary the people
• 50:04
  that tend to run the business, they actually ironically tend to
• 50:07
  be the idiots but the people actually working on the front
• 50:10
  lines are usually very intelligent people.
• 50:12
  You know, people studying people, you know, whatever like
• 50:15
  it's a frustrating job to be in like I'm When I was working in a
• 50:18
  hotel, he's a really good example, right?
• 50:23
  So, we had this four-star hotel that I worked at.
• 50:26
  Then you walk in and it's got a lounge area, right?
• 50:30
  And to the far left, you've got a la carte restaurant to the far
• 50:33
  right. You've got a buffet restaurant
• 50:36
  and then further on this, like a banqueting area, blah, blah
• 50:38
  blah. Right now, our main bar when I
• 50:41
  first joined was a standard by you know, has Pine cider bottle.
• 50:47
  Beers 15 million types of gin because apparently that's a
• 50:51
  thing. I don't know how people can
• 50:52
  stomach that takes a shit. But anyway, I hate gym and
• 50:57
  Cocktails right cocktails. It's a big thing.
• 51:00
  Yeah, you can come to a four star hotel you want to do you
• 51:02
  want a cocktail? You know it's a enjoyable thing
• 51:04
  to have then at some point they decide and we also are important
• 51:08
  points of the story, we had another bar in the a la carte
• 51:11
  restaurant. However, that restaurant is not
• 51:13
  always open for certain poop here points of the day.
• 51:17
  I'll be important later. So, this main bar for about 8
• 51:22
  months is just a normal bar and then we decided to Rebrand.
• 51:26
  It's a gin cocktail bar and I was like it's a my managers I
• 51:30
  say that again gin cocktail. And I was like, is that a thing
• 51:33
  to people have gin cocktails and he's like, yeah, we've got this
• 51:36
  whole list put out. It's going to be gray.
• 51:38
  Oh, by the way, don't serve people regular cocktails and I
• 51:42
  was like what do you mean? And he's like if they say, they
• 51:47
  want to This cocktail say no, and I'm like you're creating
• 51:50
  problems for me right now, you're telling me I have to say
• 51:53
  no to people. And for a good four months, five
• 51:59
  months, I had to just tell, not only new customers who would get
• 52:03
  annoyed but regular clientele people that, you know, there's
• 52:07
  always people that come in that you have the same argument with
• 52:10
  and they're just, they just, they know what they're doing and
• 52:12
  you doesn't matter how many times you tell them, you know,
• 52:15
  they're just trying to like they're trying to That new
• 52:17
  person that doesn't know and then they can get what they
• 52:19
  want. That's what they're trying to
• 52:20
  do. So, anyway, after like four or
• 52:22
  five months of this ship, it got to the point where we had to
• 52:26
  start accepting cocktail orders again, but from the other bar.
• 52:30
  So, not the main bar. The other bar, which meant that
• 52:32
  you'd have to have a member of Staff.
• 52:33
  Go down to that other bar, open up the bar, then make the
• 52:37
  cocktail, then bring it back and then you would get a bunch of
• 52:39
  complaints from people about. Well, this is taking too long
• 52:42
  why can't I get it from the mange it like, you know, plays
• 52:45
  oh it's taken like half an hour and Bear in mind, we're always
• 52:48
  understaffed. It goes on and on and on and I
• 52:53
  thought why not just why not just fucking serve cocktails
• 52:57
  from the main bar and it got to a point where I was like, you
• 52:59
  know what, screw this management, I'm just going to
• 53:00
  just do it anyway, I have to stuff here, I can make it, so
• 53:03
  I'm going to make it screw you and that's kind of like how I
• 53:06
  would often kind of approach it. But point being that there will
• 53:11
  always be these like dumb, fuck rules to aren't the fault of the
• 53:13
  people working there. It's some sometimes it's because
• 53:17
  If you know, business press requirements that have made it
• 53:20
  that way, sometimes it's like a health and safety issue and
• 53:24
  sometimes it's like a policy issue and I think that's the
• 53:27
  major thing when it's not like a law or not.
• 53:29
  Something that's like etched in stone.
• 53:32
  When you say policy, that's basically your way of saying we
• 53:35
  could change this but we've decided to be difficult on
• 53:38
  purpose. Like just just a fucking you.
• 53:43
  Yeah. To run about stuff like that.
• 53:48
  I don't know. It's like, that's in my rearview
• 53:51
  mirror. You know, I stopped working in
• 53:54
  Hospitality about Pakistan, four years ago now, well, but and it
• 54:00
  wasn't. It wasn't bad.
• 54:01
  For the most part. It was, it was fairly enjoyable.
• 54:03
  I working a bar. If you haven't done that, that's
• 54:05
  a lot of fun, but actually just working customer service is
• 54:09
  brutal because of, yeah, the way people speak to you for the most
• 54:11
  part, like, I generally wouldn't have issues with my managers.
• 54:14
  It would always be those customers.
• 54:17
  And you try to be as accommodating as you can.
• 54:20
  But sometimes people are just unreasonable.
• 54:23
  You know? I mean that, that whole thing,
• 54:24
  if the customer is always right is bullshit.
• 54:27
  I don't know who came up with that but just, no, no.
• 54:32
  It's we even had. I worked in the kitchen at a bar
• 54:36
  for a little while, and we would have like, things happen between
• 54:41
  like, the kitchen staff and the waiting staff where it's like,
• 54:45
  there would be miscommunications there.
• 54:47
  And then everybody would be blaming everyone else.
• 54:50
  Then it's normally, I mean, this is my experience, it's normally
• 54:54
  that like someone in the waiting staff doesn't know what the fuck
• 54:58
  they're doing. And then so like, for example,
• 55:01
  something gets sent out from the kitchen and it's like, it needs
• 55:05
  to be like this. And you need to explain X, Y,
• 55:06
  and Z to the customer and then it gets sent back to the kitchen
• 55:09
  when it gets sent back to the kitchen.
• 55:11
  That's the worst because I don't know what it is about chefs,
• 55:14
  right? But like, maybe it's the stress
• 55:16
  there. I know it's a very stressful
• 55:17
  job, but when somebody gets sent back to the kitchen, you just
• 55:20
  see someone's face, turn from, like, naught 298 in the spit
• 55:24
  like they just go. They switched.
• 55:26
  Really aggressive. And if you're there, you're the
• 55:28
  one that's getting showered. Was it, your foot doesn't matter
• 55:31
  if it's your fucking sort of Alex, your feet never there.
• 55:34
  Therefore, it's always the customer being unreasonable and
• 55:37
  this is not me shitting on Chefs or anything.
• 55:40
  I think for the most part, I would lean on the side of the
• 55:43
  chef being, right? Because the amount of stuff I've
• 55:46
  heard Comfort, like I remember there was this one place I
• 55:49
  worked out where they would send through like this person sent
• 55:53
  kept sending back like a steak. Take and they wanted it.
• 55:57
  Like they said, they wanted the piping hot.
• 56:00
  I want this piping hot, it's not hot enough.
• 56:02
  It's so cold. And it's like you couldn't, you
• 56:06
  couldn't make it any hotter, unless you like, burnt it in
• 56:09
  like the fires of hell, you know, maybe maybe then it would
• 56:13
  be good enough but it just, you know, what I mean?
• 56:15
  And like, yeah, I had the same problem with, like, afternoon,
• 56:18
  teas. You get people just like, it's
• 56:20
  not hard enough, it's lukewarm. And it's like, what the fuck?
• 56:23
  I just boiled it like, how much hotter?
• 56:26
  You get, like, I don't understand like what what, what
• 56:29
  is wrong with your body that you can't acknowledge that?
• 56:32
  This is steaming hot. Like, literally, I showed it to
• 56:34
  my manager. It's like look, there's steam
• 56:36
  coming out of this pot. What is wrong with you?
• 56:44
  We would have. Yeah, we would have liked some
• 56:49
  of the waiters, we would have a lot of turnover with the waiting
• 56:52
  staff. And so we would have waiters or
• 56:54
  waitresses who are putting in in orders for like items we didn't
• 56:59
  have or like asked like customers would ask them if we
• 57:03
  could like prepare things in ways that we Like the equipment
• 57:08
  to make it that way. And so like my man, my the
• 57:14
  kitchen manager would have to call them up and be like we
• 57:16
  can't do this. You need to go tell the customer
• 57:19
  that and then see what they want us to do.
• 57:22
  And then it would take like significantly longer for us to
• 57:25
  make what we needed to make. The thing is, customers will
• 57:29
  complain about the stupidest thing, like I was, I was working
• 57:33
  one day, this lady comes in, she's like, Oh, I just want $200
• 57:37
  worth of stuff and I didn't get my 50 Cent coupon and the way
• 57:42
  our system was means we have to return all that stuff and
• 57:46
  rearing it back up just so she can get a fifty cents back.
• 57:51
  It's like how how are you that petty with money that you're
• 57:55
  going to make us waste half hour of our time to do that?
• 58:01
  Yeah I know I know what you mean.
• 58:03
  I'm I never forget this. I remember hearing about Story
• 58:06
  of like because I worked in this Supermarket, one time it was
• 58:10
  like a little to do Supermarket, you know, upmarket.
• 58:14
  So like everyone that came in is, you know, they live in like
• 58:17
  a 5,000,000 pound house or whatever.
• 58:19
  And we had David Tennant, come in, who was very famously,
• 58:23
  Doctor Who, or one point. And it's not even funny really
• 58:29
  basically, he came in and he shouted at this, like 16 year
• 58:33
  old cashier for like 20 minutes About yeah, a coupon or no, I
• 58:39
  wasn't even a coup. It was like, ah, he was buying
• 58:41
  some cheese or ham and it was like two pounds, more expensive
• 58:47
  and you know he just grilled this poor young 16 year old and
• 58:52
  it's like, dude, you're fucking rich.
• 58:55
  Like what the fuck do you care? It's always.
• 58:57
  Oh, it's wrong. It's like two pounds more.
• 58:59
  Get your fucking priority. Straight motherfucker.
• 59:03
  I don't know. It's I mean, sometimes people
• 59:07
  said like all people would just stressed and they just want
• 59:09
  stuff the way they are, but I put it down to pain or some
• 59:12
  other time. He's people being pay and this
• 59:15
  is the thing. When you're working in customer
• 59:16
  service, you've just got to take shit from people.
• 59:19
  You just have to smile nod, grit your teeth and be like, yeah,
• 59:22
  it's great. Yeah, I want to kill myself but
• 59:25
  it's great. Yeah, yeah, we're part of a team
• 59:28
  even though we're not and and like, I mean, I think, you know,
• 59:35
  you just got to kind of be resilient.
• 59:37
  I think that's the best thing you can do, but I will say one
• 59:40
  thing and defensive. Most most teams I work with is
• 59:42
  that normally the managers will have your back and, you know,
• 59:46
  there is always a line between. Okay, we need to do what we can
• 59:49
  for the customer versus know, that customers being
• 59:52
  unreasonable, will tell them where to go like that.
• 59:54
  There is, there is always a line and hopefully you have a manager
• 59:57
  that's like that that goes, that makes a judgment call because
• 59:59
  some managers don't some managers will do anything for
• 1:00:02
  the And then that's why you have those is like instances where
• 1:00:06
  people are being so unreasonable it's because you never said no.
• 1:00:10
  It's like when you're a kid like you can't give your kid
• 1:00:13
  everything they want and sometimes you have to say no and
• 1:00:17
  then you have to explain like why they're not getting what
• 1:00:20
  they want you know you can't just give someone what they want
• 1:00:22
  24/7. It's I I've come to realize like
• 1:00:30
  how relatable like doing Omer service things is and like we
• 1:00:35
  have thrown around the idea that like, at some point we want to
• 1:00:39
  write, like, a full, like EP or album about customer service
• 1:00:45
  because we have some sketch ideas for that, too.
• 1:00:50
  Because we've both, we've both probably worked different,
• 1:00:54
  customer service jobs for like five or six years each.
• 1:00:58
  And so, we both have enough like little anecdotes that we could
• 1:01:02
  probably write a full. Album about it.
• 1:01:05
  I think people would really enjoy listening to that.
• 1:01:07
  It's good. Like, for instance, I appeared
• 1:01:09
  on a podcast recently and we know I didn't really appear on
• 1:01:13
  it. I sort of recorded pre-recorded
• 1:01:15
  something for it was shout out to the Hotel, Hell podcast.
• 1:01:20
  It's literally just a podcast where you just took about, you
• 1:01:24
  know, your bad times working for hotels.
• 1:01:27
  And I was able to give a story about the place that I worked at
• 1:01:31
  very briefly and It's surprising that you don't hear more people
• 1:01:35
  talk about this because there's always people talking about our
• 1:01:38
  customer service, I received that was just terrible, a place
• 1:01:41
  that I worked there was terrible but there doesn't seem to be
• 1:01:43
  like people talking about it on an ongoing basis or like as you
• 1:01:47
  say like fire or project. I think that would be really
• 1:01:49
  cool to hear the glove people would would benefit from that
• 1:01:53
  and be able to relate to it. That's the thing most of us have
• 1:01:55
  worked in customer services are going to get for many of us.
• 1:01:59
  It's like a starting block. Isn't it's the easiest job you
• 1:02:01
  can do where, you know, You don't even necessarily have to
• 1:02:04
  have the full skill set. I will say this though there's a
• 1:02:09
  lot of people that work in customer services that can't do
• 1:02:12
  the job and because people think, oh, it's easy.
• 1:02:14
  You just serve people there. No problem but no, no, you've
• 1:02:17
  got it. You've got to have many
• 1:02:18
  different skills, you got to be a Salesman, you've got to be
• 1:02:22
  able to handle pressure, you got to be able to work very, very
• 1:02:25
  fast. You need to go to be reasonably
• 1:02:27
  fit to do the job. And yeah, you kind of gotta
• 1:02:30
  like, Be able to just do everything at once even though
• 1:02:35
  you don't have enough time. Like I think that was the first
• 1:02:37
  time that I learned that a lot of the time when you when you
• 1:02:40
  work in a job you don't have enough time to do all the work.
• 1:02:43
  So you have to find a way to kind of like I look at it like
• 1:02:47
  balancing plates like on on a walk.
• 1:02:51
  What was that thing spinning plates?
• 1:02:52
  You know, when you got the sticks and shit and you like
• 1:02:55
  that's basically what working in customer services.
• 1:02:59
  And yeah, I don't think every One could do it.
• 1:03:02
  You know, I've worked with people that would crack under
• 1:03:05
  pressure or you know, just just wouldn't be able to hack it and
• 1:03:09
  it kind of reinforce that belief in my mind that like it, it's
• 1:03:12
  not for everyone even though it's the easiest one of the
• 1:03:15
  easiest forms of work it you know not everyone can do it,
• 1:03:18
  which is interesting. It's like the place I worked at
• 1:03:21
  wasn't. I wasn't just a cashier like
• 1:03:23
  they had a photo department. I was on the floor like stocking
• 1:03:26
  shelves. I was unloading trucks every
• 1:03:28
  Thursday and Friday so it's like every day is like working in new
• 1:03:31
  job. Bob, I thought the funny thing
• 1:03:33
  about that I remember when I first started working at the
• 1:03:38
  supermarket place because you obviously you never to be end up
• 1:03:40
  getting cross trained everywhere and for ages they tried to stop
• 1:03:44
  me from getting crushed rained on the checkouts.
• 1:03:47
  And the reason for that was that whenever the store was busy,
• 1:03:51
  which was often, they would just call you on the checkouts and
• 1:03:54
  this other section had the ability to do that.
• 1:03:56
  So didn't matter that you were doing your work, you would just
• 1:03:59
  get pulled away. So this delivery Supposed to do
• 1:04:02
  within the course of say an hour, an hour and a half, would
• 1:04:04
  then get pushed back and then you will be delayed by many
• 1:04:07
  hours because you have to go on that.
• 1:04:09
  Check out and who's to say, hello, you going to be on there,
• 1:04:12
  maybe 20 minutes, maybe an hour, I'm a boys on there for like an
• 1:04:15
  hour and a half one time. Let's just like this is all
• 1:04:18
  good. Why did you get that done?
• 1:04:20
  Was some checkouts right now and a half?
• 1:04:22
  God damn it. It's true.
• 1:04:26
  And like it's almost like the more you can do.
• 1:04:29
  The more hassle. It is for you as well.
• 1:04:31
  Because It's like you end up just going everywhere and in a
• 1:04:35
  way it's kind of cool I suppose because you get to work at
• 1:04:38
  different places but at the same time it's like that away.
• 1:04:42
  You're going to end up. You don't know like it's much
• 1:04:45
  easier when you're in just in one place because then you can
• 1:04:47
  kind of know everything that's going on in that particular
• 1:04:50
  area, whereas if you're in everywhere, you don't have like
• 1:04:53
  a fool. Kind of understanding or you
• 1:04:57
  don't know, it's overwhelming. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:05:00
  Yeah. You know, I'm driving on.
• 1:05:01
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got you.
• 1:05:04
  Anyway, that's move it forward. What do you guys actually doing
• 1:05:08
  for a living right now is are you kind of do stuff online?
• 1:05:12
  Or what's the deal? Yeah, you go first.
• 1:05:18
  Okay, lines will all more complicated.
• 1:05:22
  I'm just like in school right now.
• 1:05:25
  And then I feel like last semester of school, I was
• 1:05:30
  working at the bar, but I have a heavier semester this semester,
• 1:05:35
  so I'm going to quit but I've been doing like the Livery
• 1:05:38
  driving. I've just been doing a lot of
• 1:05:41
  just like odd jobs. I collect Baseball cards and
• 1:05:48
  stuff. And so I have like a lot of like
• 1:05:52
  built up like stock of stuff that I've been selling to make a
• 1:05:55
  little bit of money and then like, doing the delivery stuff
• 1:06:00
  but I guess, technically, I'm unemployed right now.
• 1:06:04
  Yeah, me, too. There's nothing shameful about
• 1:06:07
  that employed since February last year, which blows my mind
• 1:06:15
  because Does have a degree have free years experience in my
• 1:06:18
  field. I mean, I am freelancing in
• 1:06:21
  marketing but yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't, that is not often
• 1:06:26
  enough and doesn't pay enough. So, here I am doing this.
• 1:06:31
  Yeah. I after like I never quit a job
• 1:06:36
  before and then in the past year I've quit three jobs.
• 1:06:42
  I worked. I worked in a dining hall at my
• 1:06:44
  University. And then I quit and over the
• 1:06:47
  summer, I worked at a Goodwill, which is a thrift store, and
• 1:06:52
  then I quit there at the end of the summer, because I didn't
• 1:06:56
  have enough time to work during the semester and then I worked
• 1:06:59
  at the bar and now I quit there, it's kind of fun.
• 1:07:03
  So, in a way, I'm going drive, please.
• 1:07:08
  I worked retail for a good, two, three years and then I don't
• 1:07:13
  know. So I was supposed to get
• 1:07:16
  promoted to a manager and they're like, oh yeah, it can go
• 1:07:20
  through and then all of a sudden, they're like, oh yeah,
• 1:07:24
  by the way, you're not becoming a manager anymore.
• 1:07:27
  Yes. I was like, well, screw this.
• 1:07:29
  Then I'm not gonna work here. If you guys are going to keep
• 1:07:32
  working with it that's and I'll give me any sort of promotion or
• 1:07:35
  anything. So I quit that job and worked
• 1:07:38
  with my friend in. I'm working in agriculture right
• 1:07:40
  now. Decors on the bug Farm, Cricket
• 1:07:46
  Farm, okay, you've got this, what kind of cricket fun I work
• 1:07:53
  on a cricket Farm which they breed and produce crickets to
• 1:07:58
  sell the pet stores and stuff, okay.
• 1:08:01
  To for, you know, like different reptiles and stuff.
• 1:08:04
  So I don't work in the production part which is what my
• 1:08:07
  friend does. I work in shipping which is
• 1:08:10
  folding and making the boxes to put the bugs in.
• 1:08:14
  Then I actually like put the Crickets themselves in boxes and
• 1:08:18
  ship them out to different stores.
• 1:08:21
  Okay. And how are you?
• 1:08:23
  How are you finding that so far? It's not bad.
• 1:08:27
  I mean, it's definitely an odd job and everyone I tell about is
• 1:08:31
  like dude that's actually a thing.
• 1:08:36
  Yeah, yeah. I'm like I had to go to my boss
• 1:08:39
  and be like, I promise you, I'm not making this up.
• 1:08:42
  I have to quit because I work at a cricket Farm, it's definitely
• 1:08:47
  an odd job, but it's not bad. Tedious.
• 1:08:52
  But it's not a bad job at all. I just plug in my headphones or
• 1:08:55
  talk to my coworkers and that's it.
• 1:08:57
  I'm pretty sure who she asks idea where it isn't it?
• 1:09:00
  I'm not sure if this is the first time I've ever heard.
• 1:09:03
  You describe it as working in agriculture and I think that's
• 1:09:06
  hilarious. I mean, it's technically what it
• 1:09:09
  is. Oh no, he's not.
• 1:09:22
  It's a farm I guess you could say you're a farmer.
• 1:09:50
  that stuff has been there for but yeah, they No, no hate
• 1:09:56
  towards our staff. I just know your sandwich artist
• 1:10:00
  that implies that there's actually some Talent involved in
• 1:10:03
  making the sandwiches. And there's not, I've seen it.
• 1:10:06
  Anyone can do that. It'll mean, at least with if
• 1:10:09
  you're a fucking Barista there's like you do have to learn like
• 1:10:12
  how to make the coffee, it's a major making drinks and there's
• 1:10:15
  a good way to do it and then there's the wrong way to do it.
• 1:10:16
  You know what I mean? Whereas with sandwich, how do
• 1:10:19
  you fuck making up a sandwich? Like, well I So, part of my job
• 1:10:25
  at the dining hall, there was like a section of it that I had
• 1:10:29
  to know how to do both. I had to know how to like, make
• 1:10:32
  coffee as it, like, kind of a barista.
• 1:10:35
  And then there was another section where I had to make
• 1:10:38
  sandwiches. There's a surprising amount of
• 1:10:41
  ways that you can mess up people sandwiches and they'll complain
• 1:10:44
  to you about it. Shoot through some examples to
• 1:10:47
  me, come on. Um, there's definitely like you
• 1:10:52
  can forget to toast it if they tell you to To it's a lot of
• 1:10:55
  just like you forget to do stuff.
• 1:10:57
  Like, you'll forget to put one thing on and then if a person is
• 1:11:01
  like neurotic enough, they'll come complain to you about it.
• 1:11:06
  The one time I was like this, like this was like three years
• 1:11:11
  ago but I was like, the slightest bit under the weather.
• 1:11:15
  It wasn't even like I was like, fine, but I like went off to the
• 1:11:20
  side and I like cough in my elbow.
• 1:11:23
  Yeah. And Yeah, and it's not like I
• 1:11:28
  like changed my gloves and then like somebody complain to my
• 1:11:32
  manager about that. Oh man, I'm like, all of my,
• 1:11:43
  like, we had like student managers and then they'll like,
• 1:11:47
  head manager and so like, they complain to the head manager
• 1:11:51
  about it. And, like, all of the student
• 1:11:54
  managers that were there, one over to the main manager and
• 1:11:57
  we're like, yeah, he did nothing wrong like, this is like this
• 1:12:01
  person is complaining about nothing.
• 1:12:06
  It's kind of scary to think, as well, like how things are
• 1:12:09
  changed. Where like, before, if you
• 1:12:10
  coughed it's like oh the, where is now?
• 1:12:13
  If you cough it's like he's got the virus committed a crime,
• 1:12:18
  he's cute. He's gonna kill us.
• 1:12:20
  All that's that's why it's like I wanted to clarify it was like
• 1:12:25
  two or three years ago because it's like that would be like if
• 1:12:28
  I like that out, if I went to work a little bit under the
• 1:12:32
  weather. Now, like that is Doctor
• 1:12:36
  anymore. Yeah, it's the new normal is and
• 1:12:39
  I think things have changed. I mean, just one thing I made a
• 1:12:43
  video recently, kind of feel like, I'm fucking plugging
• 1:12:46
  myself 24/7 in this podcast about, like the benefits of the
• 1:12:51
  pandemic. Which sounds like, what the
• 1:12:53
  fuck, how can I be benefits? But I do actually think there
• 1:12:55
  will be a few things pertaining to hygiene, that will actually
• 1:12:59
  improve for the better. And one of them is like how
• 1:13:02
  especially in customer service jobs, you can't be ill.
• 1:13:05
  Like, God, forbid, you're ill and you have a day off because
• 1:13:08
  they're just fire your ass. And I think now, if you say
• 1:13:13
  you're ill, it's like all, oh no, you stay home.
• 1:13:16
  Like, you take care of yourself. Be safe, be well, and that's a
• 1:13:19
  good thing. I think if we can somehow keep
• 1:13:22
  that element of like, you know, they're actually taken sickness
• 1:13:25
  seriously because don't get me wrong.
• 1:13:26
  People, do exploit the system, but you can tell there's a
• 1:13:31
  difference between when someone has the flu versus while someone
• 1:13:34
  was drinking last night. And now that too drunk, I'm a
• 1:13:37
  cop be bothered to come to work. There is a clear difference and
• 1:13:39
  you can always tell the difference.
• 1:13:41
  Like I remember getting really pissed off, working my fucking
• 1:13:44
  ass off and I was in a similar position to you Joe where, you
• 1:13:47
  know, I was in the Runnings to get a promotion for this job,
• 1:13:52
  and, you know, I mean, I didn't want to work in a supermarket, I
• 1:13:55
  hated it. But, like, I wanted to, at least
• 1:13:58
  get that that promotion before I left and kind of just have
• 1:14:01
  something to string in my bones before I kind of moved on with
• 1:14:04
  my life. And it was promised to me and
• 1:14:08
  you know I worked hard enough. I had the right attitude for
• 1:14:11
  like at least like a year and a half.
• 1:14:12
  I was in the running for it and then it just never came and the
• 1:14:16
  longer I was there the more I realized how things really work
• 1:14:20
  and then you know, my attitude just went, mmm.
• 1:14:23
  Because why should you give a fuck about place?
• 1:14:25
  That doesn't give a fuck about you when it came to those days,
• 1:14:28
  where, you know, you were sick and I genuinely was sick.
• 1:14:31
  My rule was always if I feel like death.
• 1:14:35
  And I can't move out of my bed. I'm taking the day off and I had
• 1:14:38
  to commute quite fire to commute about an hour and a half to get
• 1:14:42
  their back and forth. So I really meant it when I was
• 1:14:47
  sick and I can't count how many times they just gave me.
• 1:14:52
  He'll for that. And I just when I think about
• 1:14:55
  the day that I Quit, It Was Not only was it satisfying as far as
• 1:15:00
  just never having to go back to that place but it was three
• 1:15:03
  years of that shit, three years I've never been Entrusted, three
• 1:15:07
  years working my ass off for nothing for years of people
• 1:15:11
  talking to you. Like, you're a little bit of
• 1:15:12
  shit on the floor. Like, people don't realize this,
• 1:15:14
  but working in customer services.
• 1:15:16
  When it comes to these things like takes its toll on you like
• 1:15:20
  mentally physically everything and so, yeah.
• 1:15:23
  That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I would come home from
• 1:15:26
  work, mentally, and physically drained, and it's awful and you
• 1:15:31
  should not do like that. Ever going to work exactly.
• 1:15:34
  It's like when I was enough, Nice job.
• 1:15:36
  I was younger. Like I'm 27 now but back then I
• 1:15:38
  was between the ages of 18 to 21 and I was in this metal band at
• 1:15:43
  the time. And so I work like 40 hours a
• 1:15:46
  week, often something like 6:30 till 3:30 3:53, you know,
• 1:15:52
  sometimes later, and then I would go and play a fucking
• 1:15:54
  Heavy Metal Show somewhere in London.
• 1:15:57
  And you know, lug around heavy equipment more this.
• 1:15:59
  And I'm thinking, how did that have the energy?
• 1:16:02
  Like, how I could never do that now?
• 1:16:05
  Exhausted. After a day's.
• 1:16:07
  I mean, I do volunteering right now once a week on a Monday and
• 1:16:12
  it can be anything from like delivering heavy Furniture to
• 1:16:15
  like serving in their shop and giving food to the homeless and
• 1:16:17
  stuff. But like I come home after like,
• 1:16:23
  Was it like 3:51 exhausted? Sometimes the day sure if it's
• 1:16:27
  in the shop, it's like 1:51 and I'm like a zombie afterwards.
• 1:16:33
  I'm like, how the fuck did I do that?
• 1:16:35
  I guess. Is this guy playing is?
• 1:16:38
  I'm in another band to so sometimes like I would go to
• 1:16:41
  work and immediately after go to practices and stuff and play
• 1:16:45
  live shows with that band and it's like that's exhausting and
• 1:16:51
  now it's on The point after doing that for a while, we still
• 1:16:54
  do it. But now it's at the point where
• 1:16:56
  I'll get home from work and like 10:00 or hit, and I'm like, I'm
• 1:16:59
  done for the day like out, whereas I used to be up till
• 1:17:03
  like 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning.
• 1:17:04
  It's like, how did I do that for so long?
• 1:17:07
  Yeah. No, I'm totally the same.
• 1:17:10
  Like I, yeah, I used to especially my teen years.
• 1:17:13
  I used to like, you know, do gaming up until like 3:00 4:00
• 1:17:17
  a.m. and then go to bed. Wake up like 2 p.m. and then the
• 1:17:21
  next day Day or whatever. And like these days I feel like
• 1:17:25
  an old man. I go to bed at like 11:00
• 1:17:28
  sometimes earlier than that. Wake up at like 8:00 a.m.
• 1:17:31
  without an alarm like my body, just wakes me up at that time.
• 1:17:34
  Like my Gout motherfucker, I don't want to have a lay-in.
• 1:17:37
  I'm unemployed. I may never be unemployed again
• 1:17:40
  in my life. I want to enjoy being able to
• 1:17:41
  wake up whenever the fuck I want.
• 1:17:43
  No, no, you're going to get the fuck up.
• 1:17:45
  This is like, yeah, I know I I did like high school sports, I
• 1:17:51
  played Ball like American football, I wrestled, and I
• 1:17:56
  threw shot, put and discus, but like, I would like get like five
• 1:18:02
  hours of sleep and then go to school from like, 7:00 a.m.
• 1:18:06
  until 2:30. And then I would go to practice
• 1:18:09
  afterwards and I don't know how I did any of that because I
• 1:18:13
  couldn't do like one of those things.
• 1:18:15
  Now, Know how basic and obvious those have sound, but I think
• 1:18:20
  it's just a case of like when you have to do shit.
• 1:18:22
  You just, you just make it work somehow, and then you think
• 1:18:26
  about it afterwards and you're like, what I could never do, but
• 1:18:29
  let's be real. Even right now.
• 1:18:31
  I could I could do it, somehow, I'd find a way, it would
• 1:18:35
  probably be with a lot of hell of a lot more caffeine because I
• 1:18:37
  think when you're younger, you just have more energy.
• 1:18:40
  But when you get older, you need to like it constantly inject
• 1:18:42
  like coughing into your veins and shit, okay?
• 1:18:44
  Coffee I said, coffee and caffeine, that's Seeing stuff,
• 1:18:48
  that's why I was drinking coffee for like the first half of this
• 1:18:51
  podcast. I need so much in the mornings.
• 1:18:58
  Honestly, I just drink it all the old, a bet even has an
• 1:19:00
  effect on me. Now, most of the time I have to
• 1:19:02
  have like espresso coffee or something to stay awake, I
• 1:19:05
  really strong stuff. And yeah.
• 1:19:09
  Anyway, moving on, what are the best and worst things about
• 1:19:14
  living in Pennsylvania? Forget about the covid-19, it
• 1:19:17
  doesn't exist, sell me Pennsylvania, the good and the
• 1:19:20
  bad. I'm going to start - it gets
• 1:19:28
  pretty cold here in the winters and it snows a lot.
• 1:19:33
  I know that's something that Joe hates to, I live on the hill.
• 1:19:38
  So, I live on a hill and I have a front wheel drive car.
• 1:19:41
  So when it snows, hmm, it is Hell.
• 1:19:44
  Absolute hell? Oh, okay.
• 1:19:47
  I know what the worst thing is, though, the weather's pretty bad
• 1:19:51
  but the roads are awful here. Whole city.
• 1:19:56
  Yeah, the potholes people drive really stupid.
• 1:20:03
  I wrote. I have a stand-up bit about how
• 1:20:05
  bad PA Drivers. Are the other day.
• 1:20:10
  I was driving it. This has happened to me for the
• 1:20:12
  past like month. I've been driving.
• 1:20:14
  Its pitch black at night and just nobody has their lights on
• 1:20:17
  all of a sudden. People just don't want to put
• 1:20:20
  their lights on. It's like, how can you drive
• 1:20:23
  your car? Not seeing anything and expect
• 1:20:26
  other people to be able to see you.
• 1:20:29
  When I lived in Europe, funnily enough, I experienced the same
• 1:20:32
  thing and I lived in this country called dystonia, which
• 1:20:36
  is quite close to Russia and Finland Latvia.
• 1:20:44
  And they're often times when I would commute in, from the city,
• 1:20:49
  to the country side of Vice Versa, and in the winter
• 1:20:52
  Jaeger's, really dark really quickly.
• 1:20:54
  So I'll be on a bus And it's just pitch black.
• 1:20:56
  There's no fucking light anywhere.
• 1:20:58
  And it's like, once in a blue moon, you'll see, like, a street
• 1:21:01
  light or something, but I noticed quite quickly that.
• 1:21:06
  Yeah, cars just wouldn't have their lights on or the did the
• 1:21:10
  worst thing where they don't have their lights on until the
• 1:21:12
  last minute and then they put not only their standard lights
• 1:21:15
  on, but the Blinder lights we're like lights up like a fucking
• 1:21:17
  Christmas tree. It says like.
• 1:21:20
  So like if you're driving in a car or a bus or whatever and you
• 1:21:23
  get that at the last minute, it can blind you.
• 1:21:24
  And then You could fucking crash or something, but they just seem
• 1:21:27
  to all be like, really chill about it.
• 1:21:29
  La la, whatever I do. This everyday, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:21:32
  Yeah, it's nice to have your lights on.
• 1:21:34
  Make everyone's lives easier including your own, like I don't
• 1:21:37
  understand that. Yeah, I have I have a bit in
• 1:21:43
  where I'm talking about like the roads themselves to, and like,
• 1:21:48
  like the drivers are very bad. And I hate a lot of people who
• 1:21:51
  drive in Pennsylvania but I There's a bit where I say, like
• 1:22:02
  PA roads are worse than New Jersey, and New Jersey is
• 1:22:06
  considered the armpit of America.
• 1:22:09
  So if you're worse than New Jersey at anything, other than
• 1:22:14
  being bad at things, you need to re-evaluate.
• 1:22:17
  How you're running your state. Yeah, let's keep talking about
• 1:22:25
  Vania but I want to Circle back to that the good things, good
• 1:22:31
  things. So it's kinda it's funny cuz
• 1:22:36
  both of us want to move out of Pennsylvania soon but we don't
• 1:22:42
  want to be here. I know around this area at least
• 1:22:48
  some of the more Force. T kind of like nature side of
• 1:22:52
  Pennsylvania. There's a lot of really nice
• 1:22:54
  hike. Entrails and just views and
• 1:22:56
  stuff around here. That is it's always nice to just
• 1:23:02
  relax and go to these places especially with friends and just
• 1:23:09
  experience nature itself. So I think that is a nice place
• 1:23:14
  where and I thought I definitely agree with that and something
• 1:23:17
  along with that is that like it's very like diverse in like
• 1:23:22
  the landscape. I mean like the Tape and like,
• 1:23:26
  demographically, like there. It's like a lot of people move
• 1:23:32
  from like New York to Pennsylvania, or like a lot of
• 1:23:35
  people did when New York, was like the hub for immigration.
• 1:23:40
  So like it. That's one nice thing I like
• 1:23:42
  about it is there are just a lot of different kinds of people and
• 1:23:47
  you get to interact with people from all kinds of backgrounds.
• 1:23:51
  But then, on top of that, like, the area, That I grew up in and
• 1:23:57
  that Joe lives in. Currently, there's like
• 1:24:00
  different. It's like a gathering of a lot
• 1:24:04
  of different cities that like is classified together at times and
• 1:24:09
  like one, I grew up in a more, like, kind of industrialized,
• 1:24:13
  like the biggest city out of that grouping.
• 1:24:17
  And so like, it's more, like, there's like, an Arts District
• 1:24:21
  and some other stuff there and there's like, one or two.
• 1:24:25
  Or to other cities like that. But then there's a one nearby
• 1:24:28
  that's like mostly farmland. And then there are a couple
• 1:24:32
  cities nearby that are like mixes and so there's just like,
• 1:24:35
  a lot of different stuff to be able to do.
• 1:24:39
  I will sit The city I'm from to has just a lot of like mix of
• 1:24:47
  like high income low income middle income.
• 1:24:50
  And so, like there's just a lot of different.
• 1:24:53
  Like areas. Yeah, what's going to say it is
• 1:24:57
  nice being able to go from like I'm in a sort of a city right
• 1:25:01
  now and then you drive 20 minutes a half hour and there's
• 1:25:05
  just like nature and like kind of Countryside like any
• 1:25:09
  direction you go. Thanks for sharing guys.
• 1:25:13
  I often ask my guests about this when they're from somewhere.
• 1:25:16
  That's you know what? I just in general.
• 1:25:18
  I don't know. I like to ask this question.
• 1:25:21
  That's definitely the most detailed answer I've ever
• 1:25:23
  received. Normally people go like, hey,
• 1:25:25
  you know, there's this and that and it's great in the fall.
• 1:25:28
  And yeah, that'll be like the end of it.
• 1:25:30
  But yeah, that's actually a very comprehensive detailed answer.
• 1:25:34
  So thank you for that now. What's your beef with New
• 1:25:38
  Jersey? What's the problem there?
• 1:25:43
  I feel like it's like a Jersey. New Jersey is one of those
• 1:25:46
  States like New Jersey and Florida are probably the most
• 1:25:51
  like notorious States. And they have like the most
• 1:25:54
  widespread like reputation out of any other states because
• 1:26:00
  Florida is known for just being like insane and just like
• 1:26:04
  whatever happens there and new Jersey is notorious for just
• 1:26:09
  being the worst at everything. Like you would you be like,
• 1:26:15
  sports the economy? Stuff like that, kind of what
• 1:26:19
  you mean? Like just just not performing.
• 1:26:21
  Well it's just kind of a rundown state in a larger.
• 1:26:28
  We're like you go into New Jersey.
• 1:26:29
  Like I have to go there later today and you go in the jersey
• 1:26:33
  and you just get this like a media sense of.
• 1:26:35
  Oh God, I'm in New Jersey. Everywhere you look.
• 1:26:39
  It's just kind of Gray and Bland and boring.
• 1:26:44
  I think. Yeah, I mean for some parts,
• 1:26:47
  there are some like they're a couple nice beaches.
• 1:26:50
  There are also a couple pretty crappy beaches compared to some
• 1:26:55
  other states. So, like there are some nice
• 1:27:00
  Parts, I think it probably gets a were strapped, then it's do.
• 1:27:04
  But I also think it's really funny to make fun of it.
• 1:27:08
  Do you know what? Grew up in Jersey so, okay.
• 1:27:11
  So there's a bit of a person vested interests are Jersey,
• 1:27:17
  okay? So you're always born there and
• 1:27:23
  the both of our parents grew up there.
• 1:27:29
  Like, both of both of our dads grew up there, okay?
• 1:27:32
  Yeah, and everyone was just quick to get out.
• 1:27:34
  Basically, it's the same night. Here's the thing for me.
• 1:27:41
  Obviously, I I don't know much about it.
• 1:27:43
  The things that I know about about New Jersey's.
• 1:27:46
  This, I know that it's next to New York.
• 1:27:49
  I know that for instance, WWE always chooses to do you know,
• 1:27:54
  like WrestleMania when they want to do like a big one?
• 1:27:58
  Like WrestleMania, 45, something like that.
• 1:28:00
  They choose to do it in New Jersey, and say that it's New
• 1:28:03
  York because it's cheaper to do that than actually hold the
• 1:28:06
  event in New York. So that that says more on them,
• 1:28:10
  than then it doesn't need. The, but whenever they say that
• 1:28:14
  people were quick to remind them, that New Jersey is not New
• 1:28:17
  York. I also remember watching this,
• 1:28:20
  this program, How I Met Your Mother That was supposed to be
• 1:28:23
  set in New York and there were constant jokes particular from
• 1:28:26
  the character Ted about how shit apparently New Jersey was.
• 1:28:31
  And I felt like it's the sort of thing that I guess you could
• 1:28:34
  only really know unless you live in New York or New Jersey and
• 1:28:37
  could have like that kind of, that point of reference.
• 1:28:41
  But yeah, Don't know? Just just, can you comment on
• 1:28:43
  that? Like, what's the deal?
• 1:28:44
  Why does apparently New York hate New Jersey?
• 1:28:47
  And why is there a rivalry there?
• 1:28:48
  And what's the deal there? Please explain this to me.
• 1:28:54
  I love you bring of How I Met Your Mother because I love that
• 1:28:56
  show. And I watched it like three
• 1:28:57
  times in the past two years. But yeah, I mean like that show
• 1:29:02
  is in New York City and start especially like New York City.
• 1:29:09
  Probably looks at New Jersey as like It's New York light like
• 1:29:15
  the same thing as what you are saying with like the WWE stuff.
• 1:29:18
  Like the NFL has the New York Jets and the New York Giants,
• 1:29:24
  both of which their stadium is in New Jersey.
• 1:29:30
  They they both started like they both were created.
• 1:29:36
  They were in New York City and then they moved to New Jersey
• 1:29:39
  because like you said, it's cheaper.
• 1:29:43
  But kept the New York branding because that would be like if
• 1:29:47
  Manchester United was based in Liverpool like because
• 1:29:52
  technically Manchester is, I think about an hour from some
• 1:29:55
  level boards. There's not snot snot far by
• 1:29:57
  car, but like, that's the same thing because there's a
• 1:30:00
  understand, New York is right next to New Jersey.
• 1:30:02
  There's okay. It's a bit distance travel, but
• 1:30:04
  you can get there within a reasonable time, but it's a
• 1:30:07
  different place. So, how can you say?
• 1:30:09
  Oh, you know with with the New York Jets But we're in New
• 1:30:12
  Jersey, what I mean like they like guy they got their
• 1:30:18
  grounding in New York actually but it's kind of disease within
• 1:30:24
  New York, isn't it? As far as like this day?
• 1:30:27
  Is concerned. Is that right?
• 1:30:30
  No, it's okay. Yeah.
• 1:30:33
  So New Jersey is like right next to New York, the state and it's
• 1:30:39
  probably like what, like 40 minutes hour car ride from New
• 1:30:44
  York City because this is why I get confused by Sony.
• 1:30:48
  New York, New York City in the state, but it was you're saying,
• 1:30:52
  New Jersey is not within the state of New York.
• 1:30:54
  Is that correct? No New Jersey is its own state.
• 1:30:59
  Okay, now I understand see that makes a bit more sense, but also
• 1:31:05
  makes it a bit confusing about. Okay.
• 1:31:08
  This is just because they're like, they're so close together
• 1:31:10
  but at the same time it is a different states.
• 1:31:12
  Different state can't really. That's why I get confused about
• 1:31:15
  the whole WWE things. It's like they say, oh, we ruin,
• 1:31:18
  we're in New York and it's like, but you're not, you're not like,
• 1:31:23
  it's in the same way to a lot of people will, like live in New
• 1:31:29
  Jersey, but work with York and like take the train to New York
• 1:31:34
  every yay. What is it?
• 1:31:37
  That makes sense, though. If it's, if it's not that far
• 1:31:39
  away, I mean, there's the people did the same thing in London.
• 1:31:41
  There's people that travel from the Middle, the Midlands to
• 1:31:45
  places, like, knotting them down into London, which is like two
• 1:31:49
  hours, maybe, or more, but it's cheaper to do that and pay for
• 1:31:53
  the rail fair and do it that way than it is to actually live in.
• 1:31:56
  London - your thanks for sharing.
• 1:32:03
  I think we've all learned a bit, a little bit more about that.
• 1:32:07
  As we draw things to a close today.
• 1:32:09
  Is there any kind of like final thoughts you'd like to share
• 1:32:12
  with us or maybe some upcoming projects and things you miss the
• 1:32:15
  whatever, now's your chance to plug.
• 1:32:16
  Go go, go, go. Yeah.
• 1:32:19
  So I'm just going to run through everything.
• 1:32:22
  We have to plug you can follow us on Instagram at the noises
• 1:32:27
  noodles Twitter at noise noodles noise, noodles on Facebook.
• 1:32:33
  No his noodles on YouTube. We're on Spotify.
• 1:32:37
  Apple music any streaming platform.
• 1:32:40
  You can imagine these are title just like everything I do still.
• 1:32:46
  Yeah, title does still exist. We're on tic toc even people
• 1:32:52
  make tick-tocks with our music sometimes which is interesting.
• 1:32:56
  Have you guys had a lot of success there actually?
• 1:32:59
  Surprising couple. We've had a couple covers that
• 1:33:02
  the original song isn't on Tick-Tock.
• 1:33:04
  So people use our cover of it surprises me because we never
• 1:33:09
  even really advertised over on Tick-Tock.
• 1:33:12
  No. We never have.
• 1:33:14
  So you should push that. That's a good platform, my God.
• 1:33:17
  I think Fifi young people like yourselves is to get us a good
• 1:33:19
  platform to be on. I think it's the reaches insane.
• 1:33:22
  There's people that get like upwards of like 4 million
• 1:33:26
  followers and then that they basically don't do anything.
• 1:33:29
  German philosopher, comedians is perfect.
• 1:33:33
  We've, we've had some people like, make some pretty big
• 1:33:38
  creators or not. Pretty big.
• 1:33:39
  We've had some people with, like, a few hundred thousand
• 1:33:42
  followers on Tick, Tock, make stuff with our music looks cool.
• 1:33:47
  But yeah, Big projects we have coming up.
• 1:33:52
  Like we said, we have an album entitled shoulder, bones and
• 1:33:56
  kidney stones, releasing on February. 14th.
• 1:34:00
  It's our first album, It's ten tracks.
• 1:34:05
  It is intentional that we're releasing on Valentine's Day
• 1:34:07
  because we think that's funny to the world.
• 1:34:13
  So if you're lonely on Valentine's Day, follow us on
• 1:34:18
  your favorite streaming platform and have some fun listening to
• 1:34:22
  our album. I'll listen and cry because I'm
• 1:34:25
  like, yeah, I wanted to have a Then to pop some champagne on
• 1:34:31
  Valentine's Day and I don't have a significant other.
• 1:34:34
  So there's my reason it on the enough that play fair play.
• 1:34:37
  There should be a singles day. I hate to sound like better, but
• 1:34:40
  there should be a fucking singles day, like maybe the
• 1:34:42
  directly afterwards or even the same day just to fuck with them.
• 1:34:45
  I don't know. This is because the thing is
• 1:34:49
  like the thing that's most pissed me off about Valentine's
• 1:34:51
  Day. Is that?
• 1:34:51
  It's just like this. Silly holiday where it's made by
• 1:34:57
  car companies. As we all know and you should
• 1:35:00
  love your significant other regardless, didn't.
• 1:35:03
  I mean, it shouldn't be the sort of thing that you have to prove
• 1:35:05
  it one day. And this is the thing I've been
• 1:35:07
  in relationships, right? Where it becomes like a fucking
• 1:35:11
  contest. Well, I guess I got what well,
• 1:35:14
  you did this? Well, I did this, I bought a
• 1:35:17
  bouquet and a string, quartet and flowers and we're going on
• 1:35:20
  holiday to fucking Hawaii and it's like a fucking So that
• 1:35:24
  doesn't that doesn't say shit. You probably be broken up like
• 1:35:26
  some more like, come on. Yeah, it's a lie, it's a fast,
• 1:35:31
  fuck you Valentine's. And it's not because I'm single.
• 1:35:34
  I feel the same when I'm in a relationship.
• 1:35:36
  If anything, I get more pissed off because I do Loki, I'll take
• 1:35:39
  that. I won't be a cheap-ass.
• 1:35:40
  Will take them out, but I'm not gonna, like, roll out the red
• 1:35:43
  carpet, because as far as I'm concerned, you should do that
• 1:35:46
  all the time. It should be sponsored.
• 1:35:47
  Yeah, it's more romantic to do it like spontaneous.
• 1:35:50
  Like, you know, you say to a girl, your significant other
• 1:35:53
  like, Oh what's this innate in? You know, what was the occasion?
• 1:35:57
  And you go? Because I love you, you know, it
• 1:35:58
  just writes itself. Whereas Valentine's Day, it's
• 1:36:01
  like if anything required to do something.
• 1:36:04
  Yeah, it's like okay I've ticked the Box.
• 1:36:07
  Yeah, okay, we've done something.
• 1:36:11
  Yeah. Anyway, so you record releases
• 1:36:16
  on February 14th, best of luck with that.
• 1:36:19
  And yeah, just in general guys. Thank you very much for being on
• 1:36:22
  the show. It's been an absolute pleasure
• 1:36:24
  getting to know you and hearing about all your different
• 1:36:26
  projects. I wish you all the best of luck
• 1:36:29
  in the world with this and yeah, thank you.
• 1:36:32
  Thank you for being on the show. Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:36:34
  And thank you so much. Thank you so much for having us
• 1:36:36
  on it was a really good time. I really appreciate it.
• 1:36:40
  Yeah, the pleasure is mine and yeah, for everyone listening to
• 1:36:44
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• 1:37:18
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• 1:37:20
  I'll see you in the next one.