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Madness at the WSOP, Current State of Sports Betting & WILD Vegas Stories · WiseKracks

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to Wisecracks. Bill Krackenberger, John Orlando
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  Speaker 1: over here at the fabulous World Series of Poker. Look
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  Speaker 1: at his setup. They did it such a great job.
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  Speaker 1: I started talking just now to John saying my stance
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  Speaker 1: has kind of changed about the World Series. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a math guy, so I'm always trying to get
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  Speaker 1: the best of it having multiple outs. Betting sports, it's
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  Speaker 1: a four and a half percent edge, you know, betting,
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  Speaker 1: you know your your Broncos versus whoever, you know, San Diego,
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  Speaker 1: four and a half percent edge. However, if you have
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  Speaker 1: multiple outs, that edge will go down because you can
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  Speaker 1: get different lines. If you ever reduced juice, that that
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  Speaker 1: percentage goes down. So I like to have a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of an edge against me. I like to have
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  Speaker 1: no edge against me, and at the start and then
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  Speaker 1: of course, and then by the time I'm done with it,
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  Speaker 1: I have the edge on them. That's what I try
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  Speaker 1: to do on most of my bets, betting early in
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  Speaker 1: the week, getting the best of it, getting information.
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  Speaker 2: Betting steam. I don't mean the bet steam. We caused
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  Speaker 2: the steam.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so uh, excuse the bookmakers give and the people
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  Speaker 1: when they throw you out, you're betting steam. We're the
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  Speaker 1: ones betting it everywhere. It's not like we're following somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: I will follow once in a while, of course, if
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  Speaker 1: I get a text or something, but for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: we're doing that. So John, going back to what my
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  Speaker 1: percentages were, talking about percentages.
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  Speaker 2: So at first, when I heard the.
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  Speaker 1: World Series charging those low limit tournaments twenty one percent,
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  Speaker 1: of course, I say, God, it's so terrible compared to
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  Speaker 1: the way Benny Benyon used to do it years ago.
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  Speaker 1: And of course he had zero percent. In the big events.
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  Speaker 1: They had four point nine percent. I believe in their
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  Speaker 1: big event. The ten thousand dollars no limit here more reasonable.
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  Speaker 1: Still five hundred bucks a person times, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how may people are going to main event, John, almost
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  Speaker 1: ten thousand. Yeah, so they're they're making you know, five
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  Speaker 1: million dollars off at a one tournament.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, talking about that and talking about the percentages
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  Speaker 1: after being here for the first time and probably mean
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  Speaker 1: last year, I was here for the one event that
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  Speaker 1: in and out. Yeah, now, I mean I did cash,
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  Speaker 1: but all I did was play. So being here and
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  Speaker 1: being around the entire time and seeing the money they
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  Speaker 1: have to put into this event. It's unbelievable how much
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  Speaker 1: the size of the staffs, the big uh you know,
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  Speaker 1: not only that all the dealers they have to pay
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  Speaker 1: that well, I say the dealers they have to pay,
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  Speaker 1: it's the rake that that they're gonna take it out
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  Speaker 1: of that percentage because there's a lot of people that
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  Speaker 1: just don't tip, or there's a lot of Europeans that
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  Speaker 1: are used to not tipping.
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  Speaker 2: It's not in their culture.
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  Speaker 1: Now I would think it's the same way for poker
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  Speaker 1: at the restaurants and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: They don't tip.
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  Speaker 1: So I kind of understand more now, especially the value
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  Speaker 1: of the lower limit tournaments with the big rake has.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes the value is people just want to say they
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  Speaker 1: played at the World Series. I played a couple events.
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  Speaker 1: Take a photo of me. I'm playing at the World
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  Speaker 1: Series event. I could play at a table where I'm
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  Speaker 1: playing next to you know, Jamie Gold or this moneymaker.
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  Speaker 2: You know some of the names, and they're helm you anyone.
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  Speaker 1: You know some of these guys playing the the Player of.
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  Speaker 2: The Year twice.
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  Speaker 1: I forget he was playing a six hundred dollars event
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  Speaker 1: the other night. You're playing one of the am I
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  Speaker 1: right to say, this is one of the best players
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  Speaker 1: in the world.
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  Speaker 3: For sure, Daniel. Daniel doesn't do in an eight hundred
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  Speaker 3: dollar event.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I have definitely taken a step back. Probably
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  Speaker 1: still don't see twenty one percent, but I do understand
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  Speaker 1: why they have more percentage higher percentage. They're bringing all
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  Speaker 1: these people together, like you said, bringing people from all
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  Speaker 1: over the world together.
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  Speaker 2: Where what other.
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  Speaker 1: Stage brings people from all over the world to play
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  Speaker 1: poker in one place.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think the other events.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think the other events that they have on
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  Speaker 1: cruise ships in different countries.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing like this, No way, am I right?
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  Speaker 3: No, not even WPT and that's not even a WPT
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's just nothing is like this. This
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  Speaker 3: is helping one hundreds for sure. What about the app?
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  Speaker 3: Now you finally now you get a chance to like
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  Speaker 3: really use the app this time. I think last year.
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  Speaker 2: They put a lot of money into the app.
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  Speaker 3: Right, yes, And when you get the table.
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  Speaker 1: Change, there's no one drawing things and pick a seat.
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  Speaker 2: Guy.
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  Speaker 1: They used to throw these things on the table when
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  Speaker 1: I played pick a seat and a table, and then
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  Speaker 1: you'd go to that.
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  Speaker 3: Table the other day because the main event was going
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  Speaker 3: on the day after I busted, I wanted to just
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  Speaker 3: jump in the Daily Deep Stack, right. So because of
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  Speaker 3: the main there's they need all the tables they can get,
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  Speaker 3: so there's limited tables now for like the Daily Deep
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  Speaker 3: Stack event. So that means now we end up there's
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  Speaker 3: a weight if you go in late or if you
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  Speaker 3: bust and you want to go back in, there's a weight. Traditionally,
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  Speaker 3: over the years before this app existed, you would have
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  Speaker 3: to stand in line to re enter that tournament. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: and like you're a Disneyland, just inch by inch by
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  Speaker 3: inch by inching go all the way around a room.
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  Speaker 3: It's insane. Now it just shows you there's eighty seven
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  Speaker 3: people in front of you. There's one hundred and forty
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  Speaker 3: in the queue, and there's eighty seven in front of you,
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  Speaker 3: and it just takes down. And then when it gets
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  Speaker 3: down to like twenty, it says, hey, your time is approaching.
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  Speaker 3: Head over to the event center or head over to Paris.
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  Speaker 3: That is what's the good Earth.
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  Speaker 2: They did a great They did a great job here,
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  Speaker 2: they really did.
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  Speaker 1: I met some of the executives, some of the guys
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  Speaker 1: that are fans of the show.
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  Speaker 3: Eric Yep, very nice, Victor. It was two of the guys, yep,
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  Speaker 3: Eric and Victor.
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  Speaker 2: Very nice guys, yep.
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  Speaker 1: And I appreciate them not even coming after me, for
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  Speaker 1: me going after the World Series and talking about it
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  Speaker 1: like professionals. Yeah and yeah, I never want to give
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  Speaker 1: them one a bad look. I'm just I'm a math guy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a share I'm a little bit of a knit too.
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  Speaker 1: As you could see, I lasted to six more hours
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  Speaker 1: in day two.
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  Speaker 3: No, you did great, eighteen hours. I'm jealous. You did great.
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  Speaker 2: It's harder on as you get older too. I forget now.
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  Speaker 2: I think I was thirty seven the last time I
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  Speaker 2: played this.
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  Speaker 3: Sure it was and way less people then.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, half yes, yes, yes, half half about half?
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  Speaker 3: So what was it like for you? You you get through
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  Speaker 3: day one, Day two, you were a little not short stack,
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  Speaker 3: but compared to short stack. You grind it and then
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  Speaker 3: they break your table. You get a fresh start with
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  Speaker 3: a new table, and you sit down and you look
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  Speaker 3: right across from you and there's Josh a Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh. And it's funny.
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  Speaker 1: I have talked back and forth to Josh on Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: We both follow each other dms going back for a decade.
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  Speaker 1: Wow and to finally actually meet him.
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  Speaker 2: I had no idea lived in Vegas. I thought he
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  Speaker 2: lived in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: And I know we have mutual friends, so to actually
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  Speaker 1: meet him and talk to him. We exchange phone numbers
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  Speaker 1: and like I said, he lives up. He lives here
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  Speaker 1: now so and he said he loves the town so
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  Speaker 1: and he loves what he's doing. And Josh, I had
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  Speaker 1: to tell him so them. I said, Josh, you don't
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  Speaker 1: know this, probably because you didn't know me at the time.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know you at the time. You were unknown too.
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  Speaker 1: I played in the World Series when you won two
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  Speaker 1: and a half million.
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  Speaker 2: He won. Yep, I'm at the table with.
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  Speaker 1: Him, and he was very aggressive table captain back then.
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  Speaker 2: Back then, okay, table captain.
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  Speaker 1: I remember him because I had pocket aces, he had
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  Speaker 1: pocket nines, and he flopped the nine and I had
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  Speaker 1: more trips in it than him at the time.
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  Speaker 2: And it just so happens that we were both all
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  Speaker 2: in and he had And that's the tale.
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  Speaker 1: If I would have spiked the nine on the Turner River,
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  Speaker 1: which is of course didn't happen, he would have not
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  Speaker 1: won the two and a half million.
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  Speaker 2: That's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: Just think about that if you had spike the ace.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I spike I said it wrong. If
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  Speaker 1: I would to spike the ace on the Turner River,
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  Speaker 1: He's out of that.
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  Speaker 3: He's out.
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  Speaker 2: Josh Area is probably still living in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, Josh, No, he's not crazy.
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  Speaker 2: He's a great player.
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  Speaker 1: Oh gatout like to come back fifteen years later and
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  Speaker 1: when maybe you know, what, do you the player of
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  Speaker 1: the year.
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  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: And still this this series, he's been crushing it. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know how many final tables he has this series.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great poker. And if I said, Josh, so
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  Speaker 1: you play every night in the area or no, where
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  Speaker 1: do you play it? I don't play at all. Wait
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  Speaker 1: a minute, what do you mean you.
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  Speaker 2: Don't play at all?
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't play poker anymore. He plays golf. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'll play once in a while. But I found that
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  Speaker 1: pretty interesting. Yeah, I was surprised that he doesn't play
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  Speaker 1: when the big events are in town, the big tournaments.
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  Speaker 1: I would think he'd be, uh, you know, better than
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  Speaker 1: an average stat I don't have.
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  Speaker 3: An edge And yeah, like and how do you how
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  Speaker 3: do you just jump back in here? Yeah, and perform
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  Speaker 3: like that is incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Incredible, incredible. So now something that I was told by
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  Speaker 1: multiple people. I was told that you went out on
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  Speaker 1: a hand, that you could have got away from the hand.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know the percentage of chips.
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  Speaker 2: Though we didn't know. The guy didn't know. It's only yeah,
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  Speaker 2: did you how much ship? Did you have?
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  Speaker 3: Forty? I think forty two? K?
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  Speaker 2: No, you didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I had seventeen bill at at at oh no, I
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  Speaker 3: like ten rand or something. At the dinner break, I
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  Speaker 3: had like eleven three or eleven eight, something like that.
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  Speaker 2: I think we went to dinner of es. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I come back and I lose some I get in
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  Speaker 3: a pot, I lose I flop top pair. I think
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  Speaker 3: I had king seven, flop a king, and the guy
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  Speaker 3: to my left wants to put me all in on
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  Speaker 3: the river, and I just felt like my kicker wasn't
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  Speaker 3: strong enough. I think I was in the big blind.
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  Speaker 3: So I have a five K chip left the old
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  Speaker 3: me a year ago. I would have just thrown the
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  Speaker 3: chip in and I got top pair. And if you
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  Speaker 3: you know, like will Case Soup says, if you got it,
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  Speaker 3: you got it, you know. Uh, But I folded, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I folded with leaving me a five K chip because
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  Speaker 3: I thought maybe there's a better spot where I might
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  Speaker 3: be able to quadruple up.
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  Speaker 2: When do you think like that, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: get you a check?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Right? So I end up grinding that five K
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  Speaker 3: chip up to forty two K in in minutes. I
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  Speaker 3: got really lucky. The very next hand or hand after that,
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  Speaker 3: I get pocket fours. I flop a set of fours,
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  Speaker 3: so I get that gets me I literally quadruple up.
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  Speaker 3: I think it gives me to twenty. And then I
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  Speaker 3: make a absolute hero call. I don't do you remember
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  Speaker 3: what I had? I had the three? What was the
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  Speaker 3: other King three? I have King three and.
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  Speaker 2: Three suited? Yeah? And now how do you even play
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  Speaker 2: with that hand? I?
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  Speaker 3: Because I think I was in the big blind again.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and everyone checked to you.
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  Speaker 3: I don't, I honestly don't remember, on a little shell
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  Speaker 3: shocked from but the guy to my right and I
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  Speaker 3: felt like he was on a flesh draw. I river
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  Speaker 3: a three. He makes a big bet and I've and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, in my head, there's I know he missed
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  Speaker 3: a flush. I know he missed a flush. I have
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  Speaker 3: so I've rivered bottom pair, I make a hero call
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  Speaker 3: for the whatever his bet was twenty one k or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: It's a sick call because he could have just even
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  Speaker 1: though he missed a flush, he could have matched the
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  Speaker 1: other two cars on the board with the overcars for sure.
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  Speaker 3: But I knew I was good, and I was right.
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  Speaker 3: I was good. That got me to forty two, and
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  Speaker 3: then you know that what I had now an I
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  Speaker 3: almost wanted to tell the story differently. Sorry, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: it's okay. It's okay. So so play along with me
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  Speaker 3: for a minute. If I said to you Bill, I'm
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  Speaker 3: under the gun. The blinds are five three hundred, five hundred.
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  Speaker 3: I'm under the gun. I'm not going to tell you
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  Speaker 3: what I have yet. I'm under the gun, and I
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  Speaker 3: raise fifteen hundred one. Guy Fold's next, guy Chip leader
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  Speaker 3: at the table, who's been a bully all day. Remember
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  Speaker 3: I've been to this table four hours.
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  Speaker 2: Right, you can't respect his raise.
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  Speaker 3: He makes it forty seven hundred.
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  Speaker 2: You can't respect his rais okay, he.
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  Speaker 3: Makes a forty seven hundred full back to the guy
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  Speaker 3: in my right who I've tilted by calling with bottom
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  Speaker 3: pair with a three two minutes ago. Okay, he ships
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  Speaker 3: all in twelve K. I come over the top all
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  Speaker 3: in forty two k. He calls, what would you think
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  Speaker 3: I have? The way I just said that I know
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  Speaker 3: you know what I had. But if I didn't tell
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  Speaker 3: you what I had and I played that out, wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: you go? Aces are kings, so you have to have
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  Speaker 3: as you have to have aces.
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  Speaker 2: You got two guys.
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  Speaker 3: I'm under the gun. I'm the original razor under the gun.
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  Speaker 3: He makes it forty seven. He ships in all in
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  Speaker 3: for twelve k on tilt. So I'm thinking on tilt
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  Speaker 3: and I come over the top forty two k. You
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  Speaker 3: would think I have aces? Well, this guy on my
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  Speaker 3: left head kings. He had queens and I had Jack's.
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  Speaker 3: But I told the story of Daniel mcgrono, and I
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  Speaker 3: told the story to Jeff Madson by opening the story
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  Speaker 3: by going, I I have pocket Jacks under the gun.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that was a mistake because agreed, No,
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  Speaker 3: Daniel nailed me to the cross, and so did Jeff,
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  Speaker 3: and so did my friend Brad Harris, and so did
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  Speaker 3: the internet, and I get it. But all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Is there was more moving parts.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like there's more contact and maybe ultimately I'm.
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  Speaker 2: You could have got away from fifteen hundred.
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  Speaker 3: My god, I guess what I could have done was
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  Speaker 3: just called the twelve. He's probably gonna ship all in
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  Speaker 3: at that king, the king on the flop, king on
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  Speaker 3: the turn, So I probably could have got away from
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  Speaker 3: the turn, or he's gonna ship. If I call this
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  Speaker 3: guy on the rights twelve all in, he's probably gonna
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  Speaker 3: follow it up with an all in.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to.
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  Speaker 3: No matter what, I'm going broke. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: even if I had aces, I'm going broke because he
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  Speaker 3: turned the king. But I know you can't do it.
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  Speaker 3: I get it, I get it. But my point is,
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  Speaker 3: I feel I don't you know it's it kind of
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  Speaker 3: haunted me that for forty eight hours of like Dad
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  Speaker 3: did I really like? And I get what Jeff is saying,
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  Speaker 3: and I get what Daniel's saying, but I feel like
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  Speaker 3: there was more context involved. Remember, I've been playing with
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  Speaker 3: this guy all day. I've watched him bully people coming
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  Speaker 3: over the top. He's got a triton hat, so I
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  Speaker 3: know he plays big events and and and he's he's
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  Speaker 3: bullying and I'm seeing him re raise people all day
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  Speaker 3: long with ACE ten suited Ace king Off, Ace queen off.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm putting I'm thinking, okay, he's got Ace king off,
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  Speaker 3: you know when he makes it forty seven hundred, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not putting him on kings or aces. I'm thinking he's
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  Speaker 3: just bullying the two smaller stacks. No, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's gonna be uh, you know, you're gonna think
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  Speaker 2: of think about it now and it's gonna want you
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  Speaker 2: just you just got to learn from it. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: gotta learn from it, you know. And you know.
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  Speaker 1: That's You've got such sharp guys around you that are
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  Speaker 1: poker players, that are winning poker players, and guys that
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  Speaker 1: uh even that they know. Now you're in the space.
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  Speaker 1: You made a big name for yourself on the vlog
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  Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, that's on the Action Junkies YouTube site.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, guys, yeah thanks man.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, you made a good spot for yourself there.
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  Speaker 1: So I would suggest maybe asking some of the better
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  Speaker 1: guys what do you think is you?
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  Speaker 2: Or you know, and you got guys like Alec Fox
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  Speaker 2: and that is that his.
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  Speaker 3: Name Alex Alex Alex Fox and that is.
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  Speaker 1: Willing to maybe sit down and show you some other things.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: All book, I think it's a great idea. It's hard
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: to do it though, when you have, you know, a
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: personality that you know, you're you're playing, you're you're filming.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: But if you think about it, if you just up
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: your game there with these guys, yeah I would love
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: you and these guys teach lessons.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they can do it for free for you,
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: of course, you know, but.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: I really do love it. I mean, I know you
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: know I love it. Yeah, it's a black You had
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: fun playing too, didn't you this time? Like? Did you
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: kind of miss.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: I've been around the World Series because of the show
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: for the last few weeks, so I actually enjoyed being here,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: enjoyed people.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: The people love you. They get so excited, a.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Big, big fan base here the World Series, and they
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: were real nice people to everyone, so nice.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: What was it like when you had ESPN? I saw
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: the ESPN cameras came over. Yeah, when Josh, did you
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: get into any hands against Josh? Yes you did?
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: No, not verse him, no, matter of fact, both times
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: I got into a hand with him. I raised he
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: was a big blind, I had big hands and he
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: volted both times. But we had some good conversations about
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: sports betting on camera which there was a boom they
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: call out a boom boom was on top of us
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: and I probably didn't realize it. But Josh has talked
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: about the state of the industry, how bad the bookmakers are.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: It's the exact opposite now than when it used to be.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: It used to be the players didn't pay if you
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: were a bookmaker and betting on credit.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: It's the opposite now.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: There's so many bookmakers out there that are using these
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: PPH sites in far off lands and telling people they're
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: a bookmaker and giving you an account, and they're using
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: so many different excuses. You're betting, you're betting steam, you're
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: betting with a different IP address, you're betting someone else's games.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: You know, there's so much you're betting with a bot.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: If you're not bet people say, you bet, would have
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: bought if the line moves. So if I am clicking
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: on four or five different sites by hand, the line's
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: gonna move everywhere automatically, they say, yeah, he's bet would
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: have bought the line moved.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: I'm the one betting everywhere.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: You know, if I could bet right now two spots
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: here in Las Vegas, two spots. I could bet literally
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: a couple of thousand each the entire market will move
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: based on I can literally manipulate the whole entire market
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: if I want. That's how much respect they give me.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: And you know, it's just it's kind of kind of frustrating.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: So Joshua has went through these things too. We both
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: don't have and play with these PPH sites no more
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: one it's every poker table has a book maker, so
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: they think they're a book maker, and then they don't
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: know nothing about bookmaking. They don't know anything about it.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: They just pay a site three four, five, six seven
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: dollars I had per week to write the business and
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: they get their figures at the end of the week. Well,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: what happens after a week they lose? After four or
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: five days, they say, well, what happened here? They call
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: the site and I said, yeah, he's yeah, he's getting
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: to be getting the best at a WHT.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: He's using a buy They don't even know. They're just
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: saying that. Now.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not granted they do have software that could that
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: detect that, but if anyone wins, they just think you're
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: you're doing something illegal wrong. I've been told already when
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I make a bet you have you have cheated my system.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: So what's that mean.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: You've cheated my you broke in them, and you hacked
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: my system, and you're you're you're putting all winners in there.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I mean some of those excuses that they're giving now
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: is so best. So Josh and I have a have
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: a big history with that. We talked back and forth
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: about that, and that's the reason why it's so tough
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: in the sports betting space today to make money. There
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: was a couple of years I was traveling back and
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: forth in New Jersey and going back. I was doing
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: my portion of the show for my friend Craig's house
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: who died his apartment. I was in Atlantic City because
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: it was great in the beginning when it first opened up.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: There was great bonuses. There was great sports books. And
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: if you're betting on an app, they don't want you.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: They don't want you. If you know what you're doing now,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: if you have a pulse, you could just run lucky.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I know so many squares that have been thrown off
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: apps and thrown out of sports books. We're winning like
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: a tennis future and someone in risk says, oh, this
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: guy's win and I get him out of here. They
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: don't look at the big picture. The guy blows four
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: times that amount during the NFL season, so they don't
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: even look at the big picture. They just said he's
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: not gonna be winning on my shift. There are so
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: many traders that wish they can be in our shoes.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: And I say our meaning advantage sports betters, Guys that
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: have edged, Guys that have information, Guys that are reading socials,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: guys that are following, you know, the different teams and
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: their beat report.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: It's a lot of work.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't recommend it for anyone.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Keep your little cushy sixty seventy thousand dollars, your job.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: You have a nice job, nice future benefits. I wouldn't
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to do this. I wouldn't want to
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: do what I do. Deal with the people I have
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: to deal with. You know, it's literally it's you have
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: to keep money afloat, keep money floating around betting on
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: futures because you know you have a five six eight
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: percent edge, tying up money.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: But it's mostly dealing with the people I have to
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: deal with.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: It's it's really made me so cold that I come
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: here and put the I told Feesik yesterday. I go
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: to the shows, I put the clown makeup on, and
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: my relationships are just transactional relationships. I hate to say it,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: it's hard to have friends in this business. I have
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: lost friends that I thought were best friends of mine
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: for twenty and thirty years. Wow, and I have lost
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: them over stupid little amounts of money, like so dumb.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: And you know some even like over like twenty thirty grand.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: But honestly it's so dumb. You can what I what
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I found over the years, I've had people that I
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: have been partners with and made money. I get to
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: go back ten fifteen years ago, we made so much
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: money together. But yet what happens is they'll jump over
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: one hundred dollars bill to steal a dollar.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: That's this gambling business. Gambling business will make.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: You do a lot of things you don't want to do,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: and including stealing from your friends. So it is, it's
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: it's John, I bet you don't know this. I have
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: more money owed to me over the last thirty years
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: easily than I have easily wait, yes, yes, easily, it's.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Not even click.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Then you have liquid right now, you're going to have
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, for sure, for sure.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Even if I count up a couple of things that
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I have, I have. But you know, like I always say,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: you know, we never tell our wives anything, like my
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: wife doesn't know that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: She would have no idea.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: But if because if you tell your wife stuff like that,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: they get so upset and now you put all that
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: burden on them. And wait a minute, you have to
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: get that monkey other. They don't understand the moving parts.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: If I didn't take the first chance I did back
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: in the nineties and trust people, trust bookmakers, trust websites,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: trust partners, I would still be working two jobs, which
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I was doing, by the way, and once in a
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: while going down and playing counting cars on the weekend.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: That was my only edge back then, grinding out little
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: small games and playing I used to play a lot
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: of poker in the nineties, and I would be doing that.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have gotten to where I got today with
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: our show here, I'm so blessed to do a nationwide
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: show on Fox Sports Radio podcast and other shows throughout
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: the week, really really lucky, the vs in downtown so blessed.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: But if I stopped at the first time, I got
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: stiffed and said I'm not doing this business. I wouldn't.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have what I had. Yeah, you know so,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: but it shocks people when you look at the number.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm pretty soft and gullible. I am trustworthy,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I've gotten I am trust I think everyone has.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I trust everyone.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I'm trusting, but I think it's better to be that way.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I'm too trusting of people that want tom you know so,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I'm I don't do it no more man, I don't.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I don't want no PPH accounts. I don't want to
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: bet with them. Bookmakers are no good man. They don't pay,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: They find reasons not to pay. If someone wins, they
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: just think you might, you know, consistently or over Like
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I said, they throw so many squares out.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: So is that also because more people have an edge
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: now because there's so much more information out there?
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: There's I would say the opposite, Really, I would say
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: more people don't have an edge now. Why because all
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: these sites that came to the country after Papstow was
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: repealed eight years ago, they have such wider margins. You know,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm baseball better, so I'm used to betting ten
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: cent lines my whole life.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: With people back home.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: When I was there decades ago, up until when I
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: moved to Las Vegas, I had, you know, a dozen
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: places with ten cent lines. Now what that means for
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: people that don't know. If you're laying a dollar fifty
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: in a baseball game, the comeback on the underdog is
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: supposed to be a dollar forty minus one fifty, which
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: means you're laying one hundred and fifty dollars to win
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: one hundred. You're betting the underdog. You're betting one hundred
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: to win one hundred and forty. I was used to that.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: That's all it was here. Then all of a sudden
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: it started going to a little bit of a wider line.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: But we still have ten cent shops here. Then pass
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: was repealed, you had all these new sites coming to
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: the country. Now they were conditioning the new players that
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: never played before to minus one fifty come back one twenty,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: not even one thirty, yeah, one twenty. The money lines
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: on football. You have a money line on a football.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Game, same thing.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: You know, you're laying a dollars sixty, you're taking back
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: a dollar Forty's a little bit wider there. That doesn't
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: exist these in the world today where there's a minus
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: one sixties coming back a dollar thirty or some places
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: at dollar twenty five. These are giant named sports books too.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: So these people don't these kids don't know. When I
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: say kids, I'm gonna say under thirty crowd.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: They don't know. They just used to doing it.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: They only became legal for them, you know, eight years ago,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: nine years ago, So they just lay it laughing and
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: say they don't realize how much the price gouging, how
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: bad it's gotten. Also, how predatory the sports books have
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: been with some of their ads and some of their
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: articles and billboards, and they make it look glamorous. Now
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: you have not only sportsbook companies, you have these other
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: companies also that glorify gambling and their parlays. Only all
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: you can bet to parlaying, and you're talking double digit
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: house edge. People got no chance. I know everyone loves
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: about parlays. Understand, you have a grain of sand, you're
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: taking to the beach and you're come home, you're leaving
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: with the beach. I get it. I get it. I
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: get the allure of it. I see the stuff on socials.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Kids love to do it, and they say, oh my god,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: look at this. I bet, I bet twenty dollars. I won,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: you know, two hundred thousand or one hundred thousand. Well,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: what does everyone say? Man, I really need that money.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: People are looking, people are looking to make scores. They're
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: looking to make scores. So I get the reason why,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the allure of it. And then and you know, when
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: you're putting yourself on what's that TikTok and Instagram, I
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: don't handle them. My right hand guy handles them. You're
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: only showing your best life, and a lot of it's
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: a bullshit life.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: You're showing these fancy things and it's not even real.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: You know, what's your regular nine to five?
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: How about this?
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I'll even use the World Series. All these people here
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: that are at that are gambling. If you had to
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: eliminate gamblers that had debt, put locks on the doors,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: because they're the ones in the casinos gambling on anything, poker, craps, blackjack,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: video poker game. Put a lock on a door, you're bad.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: A business that goes for high rollers too, that goes
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: for high limit too. It's really bad. Like I said,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: it's predatory too. They make look so glamorous and so,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and it's not as easy and not what people think.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I don't recommend how about this is gonna sound sick.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I don't recommend it for anyone. You want to do it,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: you do it as a hobby part time. You see
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: if you can build some kind of a model or something.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Or let me be blunt too. I'm a shameless plug.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: You follow someone like myself during NFL season for player props,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: preseason stuff. We have mathematical edges. The sportsbooks, they're not
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: gonna like you. I've had more people that follow me
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: over a wager talk and tell me I can't believe it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I'm so happy.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: They're happy I got drind on my first sports book
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: in forty years.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: They're like, I can't believe it. My god, but that
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: does happen?
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: And if you had a son, yeah, and he said
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: zero chance.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Really, no way. I don't want them get into the
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: sports betting, No.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Way, even with you taking him under his wing. No,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: you'd say no, don't.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Because you need I can't.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: You need those PPH accounts when it went when you
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: need the the places years ago was like Pinnacle, Grande Olympic,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: you know you need all these types. There was there
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: was twenty five wall shore of sights in the nineties.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: You need to be able to get down the You
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: need them that that take the sharp bets and move
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: the lines. But now you have pph's running the business,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: running the industry. You can't do it. And and the
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: place is here. There's only a couple places to take
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: my bets here Circa Circa is one of them. But
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Circa is going to overmove the line. So everyone's gonna
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: look at their screen. There's different odds screens. They're going
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: to look on their odds logic screen. Odds logic is
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: part of we get the odds logic screens. So I
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: look if I bet something on Circle immediately at Circa
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: immediate odd odds Logic moves because they moved the line.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Other bookmakers tell their risk managers when Circa moves, you move.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: When Pinnacle moves, you move. So that's the two.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Pinnacle's not even legal in the States anymore, so when
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Circa moves, you move. If Circa moves on, so I
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: can't bet Circa first because I'm not going to be
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: able to get down to some of the other sports books.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Now Westgate next week, our old home court Westgate closes
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: next week and Caesars takes over their sports book.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: So there's another sports book they've taken away from me
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to bey at Caesar's. Unfortunately. I want
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: to bet that was public, that was on the internet.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: They threw me out. They were just sick and tired
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: of getting beat up.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: So but maybe that's fixable now with maybe maybe.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe if I seen Tilman, I would say, I mean,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Tilman knows me I was. I was on this plane
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: one years ago. He flew a bunch of us down
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: from the Golden Nugget.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: He was very nice to think, if you can get this,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: don't you know.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: It's still the same management at Caesars too, So he
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: kept all the same management there. But I don't I
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: think the management at the sportsbook just doesn't know. They
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: just don't realize that, you know, i'd actually be good
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: for the sports book, to actually actually be good for
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the sports book. Yeah, so it's I'm allowed to play.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I'm just limited to ten bucks or I can go.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: To the counter literally ten bucks, yeah, ten twenty dollars
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: at the counter. No, No, I don't think so.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think the counter. But I don't know. I'd
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: have to find out.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: So that would be literally right here too, because this
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: is yeah. See like if you went there's this little
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: sports sports.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Book, if I gave my player card, I would find
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: out right away.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: If you tried to bet like a thousand dollars in
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: a game, it would.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Be if it goes for approval. Yeah, but I think
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: the counter is okay.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: But it's just that it's the app. It's the app.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I think the app is almost more important than they
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: want to.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: These companies want you betting on the apps, right, These companies,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: they don't want you betting in person. They don't want
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: you going undercover at the counter bet and you know,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: they want you bet at the en. Don't want you
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: betting on the kiosk because you could circumvent limits there.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: They want you bet on the apps. They want to
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: control who's betting, and they'll let you bet literally tons
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: of money, of course if you are Joe Public, John
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Orlando or but if you're yeah, so I know I've
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: gotten a little bit taken a lot of the time here. No,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: this was great, No, just talking about some different things now, John,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I've been wanting to talk about this for let's see
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: when it was it was it's.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Got to be close to a month.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: No, okay, so it's been three weeks, So about two
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: and a half weeks ago. I think I talked to
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: you about this a little bit. So the police say
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: they thwarted by saying the right word scorted. Yeah, mass
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: shooting in a Las Vegas casino garage. We talked about
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: this a little bit.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Did but at the time we kind of know which
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: hotel it was. Do you know now or no?
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to throw a hotel. This can
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: happen at an a hotel. It's not fair thrown a hotel.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: This could be in any one of these parking garages.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: They're not man for arsenals of guns. There would be
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Vegas mass shooter. Guns were licensed to this person's wife.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: More than twenty two firearms recovered from the stolen car
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: driveway of a Henderson Henderson casino. Yeah, as it belonged
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: to the spouse. She's a licensed gun dealer and the
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: vehicles were packed for her to transport out of state.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: But she this person made terrorist terroristic threats of a
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: mass shooting before, and that's why they don't believe the
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: guy faces thirty five counts of felony weapon chargers.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I would think it'd be.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Worse than that, because they literally stormed this parking garage
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: and you know they can think. I think that they
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: had like a standoff in the garage. I'm reading it
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: from the article. It was a standoff in the garage.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: So thank god.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: What we don't want is nothing happening like it did before.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: You're in town, and I want to tell you something
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not trying to say anything bad, but
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I have to be honest like I always am.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I don't think much has changed.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: You give twenty bucks to a guy checking the front door,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I think he's bringing whatever. They don't are they Are
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: they scanning bags?
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: No? But I don't think they can. I mean, like,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I just think that you have so many people checking
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: in these hotels. What do you like think of my
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: dad right when my dad would go on the road. Yeah,
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: they got guitar player, bass player, they cases. They all
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: look the same. Like, you can't just start stopping people.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Nothing. Maybe what you do.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, the only way to shut it down would
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: be it's like going to the airport.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and people that are watching.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: We don't have this in Las Vegas, but a lot
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: of times in your local casinos.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I have seen metal detectors.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when we went, we went, Yeah.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: The California metal detectors. We went, and I seen I think,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I think Detroit I was in. I was in Detroit.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I think, I right, is there a metal dete? There
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: was a metal detectors. Yeah, And you want to know something,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: now that I think about, it might've.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Been a third place. I went to a third state
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: that had metal detectors.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: So it didn't bother me so much, but it did
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: make me feel like, wow, they need they need metal detectors.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: We were in California. You need metal detectors.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Here, right, Like wow? Yeah, I mean maybe that is
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: the solution.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, but yet I walked in with
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: my phone and keys and nothing goes.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Off, right. They must be able to tweak it or
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: tune it or selling right. I don't know. Yeah, I
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I went to a casino recently and I walked in
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: and they made me take my baseball hat off. I
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: had a baseball hat. It just so happens I had
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: a baseball I never had baseball ever, Just so happens.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I had a baseball hat. Why did I have that? Oh?
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I think someone gave me a baseball hat their logo on.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: And so I told my whar that day I walked
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: in and they said, you need to take your hat off.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: He said, why, I'll do it.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: But yeah, why they said, facial facial recognition system. Okay,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: so some places do have you know, yeah, they have
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: great facial recognition.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: You're in town.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: But I find that, you know, kind of interesting. But yeah,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I thought that was That's an amazing story that something
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: almost happened here again, which would have been terrible. Now
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: we had Jeff nayd on last week, and look at
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: this the second one. This is the second one right now,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: just got it. Didn't even look yet. Jeff nay Do
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: pot that unbelievable. What thumbs up? This is the second
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: person that has text meal. Now on the socials, people said, wow,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: what an interview. But my friend from Scranton also said,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: great job on the interview. Just listen to Jeff nay
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: do podcast. What a home run that was.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: My friend of.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Scranton said that, boy, I would like to talk to him. Okay, anyway,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: and now tons of on social media too. So one
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: thing Jeff talked about and I put a tweet up
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: about it. He said, every private game that you're going
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: into home game, if it's a higher level poker game,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: if there's cameras on the table, there's probably cheating going on.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: That's going to be a viral clip. But if you're
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: playing in a higher level game, if there's a camp.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: This is referring to the New York games that all
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: this stuff happened. I mean they took a shuffling machine
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: and rigged the shuffling machine shuffling.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: I just think about that. I probably didn't think you
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: could even do that.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: So anyway, there's a magician here, magician, casino scammer, Shawn Mystery,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: that's his name.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I'm m I S T E R Y extra that
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: into Nevada.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Authorities alleged Sean Ben Moird that's his name, distracted roulette
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: dealers with conversation before disputing chip placements after winning numbers
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: were revealed. Investigators also say he changed appearances between casino
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: visits and used accomplices to pressure dealers, dealers dispute store
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and wagers. Already serving a ten year Iowa prison sentence,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: he's accused of cheating and fraud offenses across multiple states.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: But he's a magician, so he also not all not
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: only roulette he has, he has been, he's going to
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: be going to be. He's added to the state's notorious
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Black Book here a list of individuals black ball from
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: all the casinos.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: But there's a.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Lot of tricks that they think he may have been
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: doing at card games, at tables and with disappearance acts
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: on the tables. So this is interesting. They actually caught
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: him here in Vegas. I mean I have seen I
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: said it on a show last week. I have seen
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: some I'm a card mechanic, tell me what he was doing.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: He told me what he was doing right in front
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: of me, and I couldn't spot it.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Really scary.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: You couldn't couldn't spot it.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I couldn't spot it. He couldn't.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: That's how good some of these.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I watched him deal from seconds so fast I couldn't
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: believe he told me what he was doing. He's right
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: in front of me dealing seconds, deal in the second car.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: The first car's never been in to like, he's dealing
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: the second card out, he's dealing top car, just dealing
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: from them. In the next second card. It's unbelievable. So
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I play just opened my eyes. Didn't you play in
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: a game in California? You said you were cheated.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Well, I know I'm a sound naive, but you were younger. Yeah,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: this is like fifteen years ago. I didn't realize I
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: was getting cheated at the time, but I uh, I
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: flopped a straight flush right and I lost to a
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: River royal.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: I mean it could happen, but the percentages are minute, right, Yeah,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: and now, did you feel you've seen anything else?
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Shady? Don't know, but you didn't probably realize it, though.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Another guy flopped a set of aces in that same hand,
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: in the same hand, in the same Oh you were cheated.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Oh you were cheated. Yeah, the royal flush guy cheated
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: you crazy right, Oh yeah you were.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: It was my first time playing in that game.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you were cheated. No, you were definitely cheated. Yeah, yeah, no,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: you were. Yeah, I hate to say it.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Speaking of the Vata Nevada Black Book, the most notorious inductees,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a link sense here because this is
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: an interesting article. It's Casino dot Org Corey Leveton, great
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: great writer that works for casino dot org. He wrote
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: this article about the top ten people and uh the
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: reason why it came up to Current lists contain around
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: three dozen names. They're mostly modern days Heath scammers whose
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: names other than Matt Boyer, the legal Bookmanker nearly.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Brought down Las Vegas Strip.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Most people wouldn't recognize a lot of the names, but
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Matt was added to added to this too. But some
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: of these names that are added to this every they
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: got nicknames, John the Bat, Battaglia, Joseph Wild, Cowboy, Sika.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: And like, how long have these guys been on this list?
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Like it goes nineteen sixty?
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Both of that, right, Tom Lewis, Tom Dragon nineteen sixty,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Murray the Camel Humphreys, I know that name, nineteen sixties.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Marshall Caafano nineteen sixties are also, I mean.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Matt needs a nickname. If he's going to be in there,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: we got to can we at least get Mad a nickname? Yeah?
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, he needs You're right, nick let's
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: be fair.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Matt Otani Boyer, yeah, Nicholas Savella in nineteen sixty. Now
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: some of the ones that I actually heard of a
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: couple of them, though, I just mentioned Frank Colatta, who passed.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Away a couple of years ago.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: He was a member of Anthony Spilatro's gang, his right
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: hand man, the Hole in the Wall gang. I didn't
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: even know he was in there, but it makes sense.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Frank used to give mob tours around the city. Had
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: a good podcast, Sam Giacconna back in nineteen sixty. Also,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I should have mentioned him. You know, Sam was a
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: very powerful guy out here, and then he had a
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: partnership in Calnevo I think with Frank Sinatra up by
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: the border in California. But next guy, Frank Lefty Rosenthal.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I didn't know Frank. That's if you guys seen Casino.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: The ash Routstein character was based on Frank Rosenthal. I
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: didn't know Frank was in the Black Book. I had
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: no idea, so Frank Lefty Rosenthal. Of course, Tony the
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: ant Spilatro who wind up being murdered and they found
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: him in the Iowa cornfield. They say he was beaten alive,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: him and his brother were beaten to death. The actual
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: real story that was beaten somewhere else and taken to
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: the corn own buried. But for TV, for movies, they
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: made it look like it was the Cornfield that was
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: a drastic scene.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: What a scene? Yeah, what a scene.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: So one of the top three movies.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: That's another article I seen there and I thought it
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: was pretty cool. You guys can read over on casino
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: dot Org in the the news section there. Uh now, uh,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: this is still on the same subject. I seen an
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: article fresh Freshly sprung. A legal book maker, Matt Boyer
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: regrets only some choices, but interesting. He gave an interview
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: and like I said, we could we could have had that.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: We could have another interview with him, of course, but
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: he's also boy reflected on his decades long I legal
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: career in his prison time and I'm being nominated to
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Nevada's famous Black Book. A person's excluded from ever entering
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: a casino. So you know, if you Boyer's real thing
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: there was the casinos were find so much money too. Uh,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: the casinos were, they were It's an unprecedented fine. They
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: were find a fallout of about twenty seven million in
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: casino compliance fines for the Know your Customer law, which,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: by the.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Way, that is a lot. It's so strong today.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I told you, guys, and a buddy of mine put
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: money on a slot machine, and he kept on losing,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and next time he came in, they said, you know
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of players. Unless you give us, we want
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: to know where your money comes from. They knew his player,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: he had a player card, but he went over ten rand.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: So they're really trying to, you know, use this know
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: your customer law. But the problem is to find.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: You could do that.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: But the people that are really being hurt are the
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: ones that go in with the five hundred and eight
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: hundred a thousand, go to the credit credit card machine,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: get another five hundred thousand.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: They're the ones.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: You're not going to have their compliant and you're not
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: going to know where they are. But they're the people
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: that are being grinded out every week. I always talk
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: about them, and I try to talk about responsible gambling
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: the people. And this is at the risk of alienating
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: sponsors and stuff.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I don't go after any one place indirectly, at least
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I usually don't. I'll go after places that throw me
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: out for stupid reasons. But anyway, another guy here, a
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Little League president, allegedly spent the league funds in Vegas
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: casinos and strip clubs.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Sounds just like someone in the immediate area would do.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: But yeah, now being serious to a former Central Little
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: League president, Stephen Rodriguez Pratto was arrested after in besling
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: more than sixty four thousand over a five months span
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: and looking at his transfers, his Zell transfers. All this
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: stuff was spent on luxury vices, charges to the Bolagio
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Caesar's Palace, sportsbook, a thirteen and fifty one dollars tab
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: at a Vegas strip club. Yeah, I mean, look, I mean,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: look at these girls. They all come to the casino
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: after you know, these are you know it just.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Of course, of course they're gonna go.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Guys thrown around that kind of money and he's never
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: had that kind of money before obviously, so you don't
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: know what to do it you burn it up, you know,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: and just uh, I thought it was kind of interesting
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: that again, I'll say it again. In the end, the
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: casinos get it all, even though this is not a
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: lot of money.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: But it's true though.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: The casinos seem like they, you know, they get a
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: lot of the money here they really do. Is another
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: one Buddhist monk gets twelve years after gambling fueled sextortion scandal.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Now this is a very beautiful girl.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Oh beautiful girl.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she she has a scandal where eleven point
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: nine million dollar honey trap plot which was conspired to
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: the thirty five year old female to divert all this
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: money blackmailing all these other people. The senior Monk's actually
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: burning through an estimated eleven point nine million. This is
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: an online gambling but where there probably is no no your.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: Customer eleven point nine million period of time.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this this just shows you that how the sick
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: us of gambling and stuff and the things that go on. John,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: People want to know what what your future is?
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: What are you doing now? What? What do you what?
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: What happens here now? So? Do we have another week
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: here at the spot?
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Bill? I'm never leaving here, Okay.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: So you're gonna you're gonna film action junkies here.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Yes, they think I'm kidding when I say it. I
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: told them as a joke, you're gonna need a restrain
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: anyone to get me out of here. I'm staying here.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: This this is is this always going to be a
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: world here as a poker store.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes you're staying so I'm still it.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Should this is a giant brand. Should stay here around.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: I come as a package. Now, okay, so you're you're
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: gonna be. They haven't officially confirmed that, but I told.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: You every week when you do action junkies who have Travis,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: will you yeah, okay, because your other guys are going
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: back to where their normal they are now they go back.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: To school, not being Yeah they're they're.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah you want to talk them out of going to school?
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: And yeah, yes, they don't need to be wasting away
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: in these universities.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: And Roger is the both their brothers, right, Rogers their dad. Yep,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Roger has a good hand on his shoulders. He's not
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: letting you.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Do that, I know, which shocks me because I thought
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: he was going to be easy to talk into it.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: By the way, I've been watching the vlog and Roger
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: said he he doesn't he didn't play pokers.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Is he not gamble?
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: He gambles up with blackching and stuff. But he played
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: like five card draw back in the day. I think
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: that's how we all started, right.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Started way back when seven cards? Right, seven cards?
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: So we're where funny enough tomorrow night. Actually you won't
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: play in it. You could though, if you want to.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Know all your charity events you've been going to enviroment.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: There's a there's a there's a media game tomorrow night,
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: free roll for members of the media here. No, no,
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: in the on the horseshoe side, I think Winter gets
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: a seat. Winter wins a seat in the five hundred
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: dollars employee event next year. Oh nice, You'll never play
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: in that, right, no chance. No, But so he's gonna
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: make his debut in that. But he needs we need
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: to coach him up today, tonight, tomorrow.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, now he's gonna play in that.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: He's gonna play him that.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just do the opposite of what John does.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: You have a shot fulld the jacks.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: But either that.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I look at these stories, man, I look at the
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Hong Kong police smash three hundred and twenty million dollar
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: triad betting ring, one hundred and fifty event arrested. I mean, man,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: is there any good news about gambling manager allegedly built
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Social Club at its three hundred and seventy six
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: thousand to fun gambling addiction.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Those are all real stories here.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Florida illegal gambling crackdown continues with operations Sunset Stakes. I
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: told you about that, boy, I seen down in Florida
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: all over the state. He's a little in the shopping centers.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: These little it says, casino night or whatever on casino
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: night pops up. They're real gambling and they're they're finally, uh,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: you know, cracking down on that kind of stuff. Boy,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I see something here I don't like, but I'm not
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: gonna really look at you. But it says a woman,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: a woman accused of injuring a duck, baby duck on
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: the Vegas casino strip.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see it.
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  Speaker 3: I just yea, you know, I go.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: After these people because they're just such animals. Yeah, you know,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: these people that do such things like that. But so
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: here the Weekly Wager Wire segment, guys, they starts up with, hey, guys, okay,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: come on, what was that argument that Argentina game yesterday
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: was so exciting for people?
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Was it to nothing the otherwise? Anyone know?
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: And then Argentina came back with free goals. That's impossible,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: that's so impossible. So yeah, that's the one thing. But
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: this guy said, also, great show at Alan Boston. Oh
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: you wants to know. Yeah, so you guys film with
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Jamie Gold. You have a whole action junkie segment to
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: be coming out.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: It's up and we need to collab.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: With Okay, so it's out. Is it out yet?
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, cool.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: We didn't put it up on YouTube, but we'll collapse put.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: It up on you after you guys put it up
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: on YouTube. I asked John last week that John Jamie
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: gold seg what we did was really good, and John
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Capital Letters said it's going on Action Junkies. First hold it, John,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I didn't say anything, and like exclamation points, I'll show
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: it to you. Trapped, very mean, very mean. No, I've
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: seen a different side of John a couple of times.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Story of the week.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: When we went to dinner, he jumped over the counter
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: because he had a higher level card.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: He wanted to kill everyone in the jump in front
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: of him.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: But no, and you ca no, no, but oh my god,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: it's been a fun ride over here. Let's look at
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: this all right. So this guy has two legs in already.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: It's fifty dollars by the way to win three thousand
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Carolina Hurricanes to win Stanley Cup, win San Antonio Spurs
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: win the correct four to three. He wins that in
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: the series that was plus four to seventy. That was
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: a really long shot. It's amazing he actually predicted that line.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: So his fifty bucks. The reason why it pays so
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: much is because he also has Spain winning the winning
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: at all at plus four fifty. Now France is the
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: clear cut favorite here, but the likelihood of Spain meeting
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: France even I know this is really good. So I'm
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: gonna say, I know you only bet fifty bucks. I
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: get it, and your fifty dollars now is worth about
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: seven hundred, So all right, I'm I'm gonna say, I'm
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: gonna say take half of it, because your original bet
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: is about sixty to one. Now you can get back.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: You know you're getting back about thirteen fourteen to one,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: thirteen to one. I would take a little bit back
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: if if the six ninety five means a lot to you,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: which I'm sure it does. You only met in fifty bucks. However,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: you could wait until Spain gets to that finals and
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: probably make more out of this, And especially you, you
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: don't even have to. You can actually hedge the whole
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: thing when betting against Spain in the end too, So
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: I would say, wait, but can I it's fifty bucks
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: to three thousand, Go ahead, John three thousand and sixty.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: This is gonna come as a complete shock to you, Bill,
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: because you know we've been doing the show for a
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: long time.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: I'm with you on the NBA. It's unwatchable. We don't
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: like watching in basketball. I've been saying soccer is boring.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: What's so exciting? The one nothing game? He needs to
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: cash out of that ticket now immediately, because I'm here
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: to tell you Bill, I am now a fan of Norway,
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: and Norway is gonna yes, Jake thewen all you want.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: Norway is gonna win it all. And I tell you
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: this because I was a guest on Roger That Live
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: last week and they had Joe Katta on Former World
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Series Main Event Champ and he was wearing a soccer
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: hoodie and I said, Joe, I can't get into helped
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: me get into soccer because I'm watching it in these tournaments.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: It's on the big screen in there. Give me a
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: live long shot, Give me a live long shot. And
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: he said, Norway at thirty five to one. So I
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: threw one hundred bucks on Norway. Wow to win it all?
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Is there only fifteen to one? Now?
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Because they beat a live Underdog.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: And I can even tell you that Holland is my
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: new favorite player. Wow, yes, Wow Bill. This guy needs
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: the cash out of that ticket for the seven hundred
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: and throw it all on Norway to win it all.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: You heard it live here Wise Facts guys. We'll see
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: you next week.