Latest / INSIGHT TODAY / What's behind Iceland's security headache
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Iceland has learned how to deal with threats like these,
- 0:07Speaker 1: But now military competition has returned to the Arctic, and
- 0:11Speaker 1: Iceland sits at the center of it all, the only
- 0:15Speaker 1: NATO member without an army of its own. Iceland thought
- 0:18Speaker 1: it would be okay because NATO had its back, but
- 0:22Speaker 1: Donald Trump has put that all in doubt, and Iceland
- 0:25Speaker 1: is suddenly asking itself what if NATO isn't enough. In Iceland,
- 0:37Speaker 1: you can literally swim between two continents that the tectonic
- 0:42Speaker 1: plates dividing North America and Europe also make Iceland one
- 0:45Speaker 1: of the most volcanically active places on Earth. Anyone who
- 0:50Speaker 1: visits Iceland quickly learns to respect the power of nature.
- 0:56Speaker 1: But today and another kind of power is threatening. The
- 0:59Speaker 1: island's secure already.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Two there's so much quite on on both sides of
- 1:04Speaker 2: us that we better control what's happening in our own region,
- 1:08Speaker 2: in our own backyard.
- 1:10Speaker 3: Iceland's backyard.
- 1:11Speaker 1: That's the region between the Arctic Ocean and the North
- 1:14Speaker 1: Atlantic where military competition is growing more intense, and Greenland
- 1:20Speaker 1: is Iceland's closest neighbor. Yes, that Greenland, the autonomous Danish
- 1:25Speaker 1: territory that Trump has threatened to take over multiple times.
- 1:28Speaker 3: We need Greenland for national security. But what really caused
- 1:33Speaker 3: alarm in Iceland was this.
- 1:36Speaker 4: I mean, our stock market took the first dip yesterday
- 1:38Speaker 4: because of Iceland.
- 1:40Speaker 3: So Iceland's already cost us a lot of money.
- 1:43Speaker 5: I mean, he's at one point he didn't even know
- 1:45Speaker 5: whether it was talking about Iceland or Greenland. So obviously
- 1:48Speaker 5: this this evokes strong feelings here. It did not make
- 1:52Speaker 5: anyone feel particularly secure in Iceland.
- 1:57Speaker 1: That's Pia Hanson, She's probably the expert in Iceland on
- 2:01Speaker 1: international affairs. Iceland and Greenland do have a lot in
- 2:06Speaker 1: common by king history, their remote, wild nature and sparse populations.
- 2:15Speaker 1: But Iceland is actually greener and less icy than Greenland,
- 2:20Speaker 1: and it is an independent country.
- 2:22Speaker 3: Around four hundred thousand.
- 2:24Speaker 1: People live here. That's roughly half the population of San Francisco.
- 2:29Speaker 1: It might be small, but it is wealthy.
- 2:34Speaker 3: Today.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Women hold all top leadership positions. Even the top Lutheran bishop.
- 2:40Speaker 3: Is a woman.
- 2:42Speaker 1: This is the current Prime Minister, Christren Frostadotier. She has
- 2:47Speaker 1: been pretty outspoken visa VI Trump.
- 2:52Speaker 2: Greenland belongs to the people of Greenland. The same is
- 2:56Speaker 2: for Iceland. The same is for all these allies that
- 2:58Speaker 2: are around US.
- 3:01Speaker 1: Calling out the US is a balancing act for Iceland.
- 3:04Speaker 1: The country has relied on the US for its security
- 3:07Speaker 1: because it doesn't have an army and it didn't think
- 3:10Speaker 1: it needed one.
- 3:11Speaker 5: You have to also remember how small we were.
- 3:14Speaker 1: When Iceland became an independent republic in nineteen forty four.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Around one hundred twenty five thousand people lived on the island.
- 3:22Speaker 5: And we were extremely poor. The dream was always to
- 3:26Speaker 5: be that, you know, to be the neutral, tiny little
- 3:29Speaker 5: island in the middle of the ocean, that nobody would bother,
- 3:32Speaker 5: make good relations with everyone, but not take sites. But
- 3:36Speaker 5: that changed, of course, dramatically, as soon as we entered
- 3:39Speaker 5: NATO in forty nine.
- 3:40Speaker 4: This union of twelve nations became known as the North
- 3:44Speaker 4: Atlantic Treaty Organization, or more simply NATO. They were sworn
- 3:50Speaker 4: to stand together against aggression. An attack against one would
- 3:55Speaker 4: be an attack against all.
- 3:59Speaker 1: But hundreds took through the streets in protest. People worried
- 4:03Speaker 1: that joining NATO would break with Iceland's neutrality.
- 4:07Speaker 3: Was heated.
- 4:08Speaker 5: It was politically highly charged. It was for a long
- 4:11Speaker 5: time still quite controversial.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Still, the political decision behind Iceland joining NATO was pragmatic.
- 4:21Speaker 1: If you don't even have an army, you need somebody
- 4:23Speaker 1: else to take care of your security. But why would
- 4:26Speaker 1: NATO want a country without an army?
- 4:30Speaker 3: Location? Location Location.
- 4:32Speaker 5: Certainly, the US pushed for US joining NATO because the
- 4:35Speaker 5: importance of actually having a presence here this region is
- 4:39Speaker 5: of high importance strategically speaking.
- 4:42Speaker 1: Just for context, the first US troops actually landed in
- 4:45Speaker 1: Iceland before the US joined World War Two. They took
- 4:49Speaker 1: over an occupation from the British, who had started it
- 4:52Speaker 1: to prevent Nazi Germany from invading the island. Iceland lies
- 4:57Speaker 1: on what is called the Greenland Iceland UK get Giuk,
- 5:02Speaker 1: a naval chokepoint between the Arctic Ocean and the Atlantic.
- 5:06Speaker 1: That area became a frontline during the Cold War. Submarines
- 5:11Speaker 1: of the Soviet Union's Northern Fleet, which had its headquarters
- 5:14Speaker 1: in Mormansk, relied on the passage through this gap to
- 5:17Speaker 1: reach the North Atlantic. An underwater sound surveillance system provided
- 5:23Speaker 1: early detection of Soviet submarines.
- 5:27Speaker 6: Licenser has historically had a core role as a NATO
- 5:32Speaker 6: ford operating base in the Arc.
- 5:35Speaker 1: That's Neil Melvin. His research focuses on security in the
- 5:38Speaker 1: Arctic and the High North Maritime Patrol. Aircraft like these
- 5:45Speaker 1: operated from here Kevlovik Airfield. So one of NATO's strategic
- 5:50Speaker 1: outposts during the Cold War was in Iceland.
- 5:54Speaker 6: It's really like a gigantic aircraft carrier in the middle
- 5:57Speaker 6: of the North Atlantic that's unsinkable.
- 6:00Speaker 1: Kevlevic was used by the US, an arrangement that was
- 6:03Speaker 1: part of the defense deal the US and Iceland signed
- 6:07Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty one, and Iceland profited from that partnership.
- 6:12Speaker 1: The abbase brought jobs, investment, and infrastructure to the island.
- 6:18Speaker 6: For sixty years, we had this large US operating base
- 6:22Speaker 6: with permanent forces based in Iceland at the airport Keflavik.
- 6:26Speaker 5: At the end of the Cold War, I think we
- 6:27Speaker 5: all kind of hoped, and you know, we're into the
- 6:32Speaker 5: end of history. It thinks are just hunky dory by now,
- 6:35Speaker 5: and we're just going to be happy and nobody's going
- 6:37Speaker 5: to have a war anywhere in Europe.
- 6:38Speaker 6: And in two thousand and sixty, the assessment was what
- 6:41Speaker 6: was made, the threat had basically ended. You know, we
- 6:44Speaker 6: didn't see this confrontation in Europe anymore.
- 6:48Speaker 1: In two thousand and six, the US military left Iceland.
- 6:53Speaker 3: By the way.
- 6:54Speaker 1: US giant McDonald's stuck around until two thousand and nine,
- 6:57Speaker 1: when it closed its restaurants on the island, and that's
- 6:59Speaker 1: the global financial crisis.
- 7:02Speaker 3: But one true piece of Americana remained.
- 7:06Speaker 1: A large fry and a Teesburger survived for more than
- 7:09Speaker 1: a decade and were on display at a hostel. But
- 7:13Speaker 1: back to our story, the US was technically still Iceland
- 7:17Speaker 1: security guarante, but was basically just phoning it in.
- 7:22Speaker 6: I think many people in Iceland felt that they didn't
- 7:25Speaker 6: really have a protector at that point, so it was.
- 7:28Speaker 5: Almost like on a personal level for many of the politicians,
- 7:31Speaker 5: they felt betrayed and they tried to negotiate on issues
- 7:36Speaker 5: of you know, at least let us keep a few
- 7:39Speaker 5: fighter jets here. Let's you know, at least have some
- 7:42Speaker 5: sort of a presence.
- 7:44Speaker 1: The Icelandic Coastguard eventually took charge of Kavlavik. The agency
- 7:49Speaker 1: is the closest thing to a military that Iceland has
- 7:54Speaker 1: at Iceland continued hosting NATO military exercises, including a few
- 8:00Speaker 1: fighter jets, at least temporarily, but the Coastguard also carried
- 8:06Speaker 1: on with its traditional missions like sea rescue and remember
- 8:12Speaker 1: everything was hanky dory right, and.
- 8:16Speaker 6: Suddenly the Russians began to show up.
- 8:21Speaker 1: In recent years, Russia has been pushing for dominance in
- 8:24Speaker 1: the Arctic by revamping its Arctic bases and deploying its
- 8:29Speaker 1: military in the region more frequently.
- 8:32Speaker 6: As the kind of Arctic environment has become more tense,
- 8:34Speaker 6: particularly after the Russia's full scale invasion of Ukraine, Iceland's
- 8:39Speaker 6: position has returned in many ways to what it was
- 8:42Speaker 6: during the Cold War.
- 8:45Speaker 1: Russia is building more nuclear powered submarines and guess where
- 8:50Speaker 1: they probably have to pass Yep through the Gauk Gap,
- 8:57Speaker 1: just like Soviet submarines did during the Cold War.
- 9:01Speaker 6: We've seen, I think, a kind of a full circle
- 9:04Speaker 6: as regards Iceland's geopolitical significance.
- 9:09Speaker 1: And Iceland will probably only become more important also because
- 9:14Speaker 1: of climate change. The melting ice in the Arctic is
- 9:17Speaker 1: creating a race for untapped resources and it opens potential
- 9:22Speaker 1: shipping routes, new opportunities for maritime trade, and of course,
- 9:28Speaker 1: NATO has also become increasingly active in the Arctic. The
- 9:33Speaker 1: US even sent a nuclear powered attack submarine to Iceland,
- 9:37Speaker 1: a historic first.
- 9:39Speaker 6: There is a return to hard military competition in the
- 9:44Speaker 6: Arctic and Iceland has become the front line because of that.
- 9:49Speaker 1: So it was Iceland's turn to make a move. For
- 9:53Speaker 1: the first time ever, it adopted a formal defense policy.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Still no army, but a different attitude.
- 9:59Speaker 5: For all of a sudden, from the issue of talking
- 10:04Speaker 5: about defense in Iceland that was such a taboo. You
- 10:07Speaker 5: wouldn't do it, you know, because it was you were
- 10:10Speaker 5: just branded then a complete crazy person that wanted an army,
- 10:14Speaker 5: and nobody would even talk to you. So I think
- 10:17Speaker 5: that that was a huge change and a huge shift
- 10:19Speaker 5: for us to all of a sudden say, okay, look,
- 10:23Speaker 5: obviously we're part of a region now that is really
- 10:26Speaker 5: facing a different security environment.
- 10:30Speaker 1: And this guy, on top of mixing up Greenland and Iceland,
- 10:36Speaker 1: Donald Trump, has repeatedly threatened NATO even with leaving the alliance.
- 10:42Speaker 5: You don't want to be noticed by Trump, right, So
- 10:45Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of concern with the Icelandic authorities.
- 10:49Speaker 1: Not long ago, Iceland reportedly spent less than zero point
- 10:52Speaker 1: one percent of its GDP on defense related items such
- 10:56Speaker 1: as equipment for its coastguard. Now the government is suddenly
- 10:59Speaker 1: aim for one point five percent. That's the NATO goal.
- 11:03Speaker 2: Yes, We are a country without a military, but that
- 11:05Speaker 2: doesn't mean we don't have strong defenses. In a role
- 11:08Speaker 2: to play in NATO, we do our very best to
- 11:10Speaker 2: be a strong ally.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Iceland tries to be of help without a military. It
- 11:16Speaker 1: colleades the d mining Coalition that provides equipment and trains
- 11:19Speaker 1: Ukrainian soldiers, and Iceland hosts its allies on the island.
- 11:25Speaker 1: From Kavlavik, NATO pilots patrol the area around Iceland. Its
- 11:30Speaker 1: location alone adds value to the alliance.
- 11:37Speaker 5: We have a geostrategic importance in being able to play off.
- 11:41Speaker 5: That is something that you know. It's practically the only
- 11:46Speaker 5: thing we have, so we might as well use it right.
- 11:49Speaker 1: And it seems to be working. Just listen to NATO
- 11:52Speaker 1: Chief Mark Rutu.
- 11:54Speaker 7: As a country, you are the iisaneers for many of
- 11:57Speaker 7: us in NATO.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Your leadership and resilience of pepertus is second to none.
- 12:03Speaker 1: This is what he means. When volcanic activity threatened the
- 12:07Speaker 1: town of Grindavik, Icelandic authorities were able to evacuate the
- 12:11Speaker 1: population early.
- 12:13Speaker 3: They built barriers to divert the.
- 12:15Speaker 1: Lava flows, ultimately managing to protect a crucial power plant.
- 12:19Speaker 3: For the region.
- 12:21Speaker 1: Being exposed to the raw power of nature in this
- 12:24Speaker 1: way has given Iceland a lot of experience in disaster
- 12:27Speaker 1: relief and protecting critical infrastructure.
- 12:31Speaker 6: I think island is part of this broader Nordic approach
- 12:35Speaker 6: to societal resilience, where you could also argue I think
- 12:38Speaker 6: that in Norway, Finland, Sweden, they have an approach that
- 12:42Speaker 6: looks at security which is much wider than tanks and airplanes.
- 12:47Speaker 1: Like Iceland, Norway is part of NATO, and Finland and
- 12:51Speaker 1: Sweden just joined recently following Russia's full scale invasion of Ukraine.
- 12:55Speaker 1: They all worry about Russia's military aggression and now they
- 13:00Speaker 1: wonder whether the US will be there if they need them.
- 13:04Speaker 1: That has led the Nordic family to move closer together. Iceland, Norway, Finland,
- 13:09Speaker 1: Sweden and also Denmark have deepened their cooperation when it
- 13:13Speaker 1: comes to defense, and there's an even bigger group of
- 13:16Speaker 1: countries that Iceland is looking towards, the European Union. In
- 13:22Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, EU chief Oseola Fonelaian came to Iceland
- 13:26Speaker 1: to explore the island and discuss closer ties. Less than
- 13:31Speaker 1: a year later, Iceland signed a defense partnership with the EU.
- 13:35Speaker 6: He's trying to find as many different partners and alliances
- 13:40Speaker 6: that it can be part of because of the uncertainty
- 13:42Speaker 6: about the US and the general direction of nature, and.
- 13:46Speaker 1: That partnership could even go deeper if Iceland became a
- 13:50Speaker 1: member of the EU.
- 13:52Speaker 3: The population has split.
- 13:54Speaker 1: People worry about economic disadvantages, for example when it comes
- 13:57Speaker 1: to fishing for the government. The path towards the potential
- 14:01Speaker 1: EU membership is also about security, just.
- 14:04Speaker 6: A general sense of being part of a wider group.
- 14:07Speaker 6: And I think that may be one of the benefits
- 14:10Speaker 6: that Iceland would feel it has from joining the European Union.
- 14:15Speaker 6: There's a little bit of extra protection.
- 14:17Speaker 1: We asked Icelanders, would joining the EU give them more security?
- 14:24Speaker 4: Look to do America, But I think they are not
- 14:29Speaker 4: real able Now. We should be a part of Europe.
- 14:32Speaker 5: We belong to Europe. I believe we are in NATO.
- 14:36Speaker 3: That's clear. That's not gonna change.
- 14:39Speaker 7: We have many allies with Iceland, many allies from Iceland
- 14:43Speaker 7: that would be ready to step in probably, but yeah,
- 14:47Speaker 7: that's a very big uncertainty.
- 14:49Speaker 1: At the moment.
- 14:49Speaker 7: Iceland is already in a in a let's say, defense
- 14:52Speaker 7: alliance with Europe. Which and I think that alliance is
- 14:56Speaker 7: gonna stand. I think Iceland will be safe or equally
- 15:02Speaker 7: safe in or out of the European Union.
- 15:04Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, the main defense
- 15:07Speaker 1: a lines in Europe isn't the EU, it's NATO.
- 15:10Speaker 3: And NATO still.
- 15:11Speaker 1: Depends on the US for now, at least as does Iceland.
- 15:15Speaker 6: Despite what President Trump is saying, Iceland is becoming busier
- 15:20Speaker 6: and busier with US forces coming through, So Iceland will
- 15:23Speaker 6: remain a core US security interest because of the Russian threat,
- 15:28Speaker 6: US will continue to be involved in Iceland. I mean
- 15:32Speaker 6: it has to be in its own security perspective. So
- 15:35Speaker 6: this means Iceland now has to negotiate
- 15:37Speaker 1: That Iceland might not have an army to defend itself,
- 15:42Speaker 1: but it's been building friendships and it won't let anyone
- 15:46Speaker 1: forget where it is on the map.