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- 0:01Speaker 1: The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
- 0:04Speaker 1: Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences
- 0:07Speaker 1: and parental discretion is advised.
- 0:20Speaker 2: It's showtime, folks.
- 0:22Speaker 3: Enjoy the show. This is Dan Eckman, you're listening to
- 0:48Speaker 3: Movie Meltdown, and keep kicking ass, guys!
- 0:56Speaker 2: It's time for Sofa Theater.
- 1:05Speaker 4: Jason, Jason, come quick! There's a mystery afoot!
- 1:09Speaker 5: Somebody stuck their fingers in Mrs.
- 1:11Speaker 4: Kimmel's pie!
- 1:13Speaker 1: What kind of pie, Jamie?
- 1:15Speaker 4: Poisonberry!
- 1:22Speaker 5: Duncan, come in, Duncan.
- 1:26Speaker 6: Duncan here.
- 1:28Speaker 1: We got a code 484 at Mrs. Kimmel's house.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Affirmative.
- 1:32Speaker 4: Charlie, come in, Charlie.
- 1:34Speaker 3: Code 484 at Mrs.
- 1:35Speaker 6: Kimmel's house.
- 1:37Speaker 7: I'm on it.
- 1:40Speaker 4: Still warm.
- 1:42Speaker 8: That means it was hot when someone stuck their finger
- 1:44Speaker 8: in there.
- 1:45Speaker 9: There's only one kid crooked enough to do this, but
- 1:48Speaker 9: young enough not to know it would burn you.
- 1:52Speaker 5: Joshua McDonald. Eric McDonald.
- 1:56Speaker 4: And we know his spot. Yeah, yes I'm on top.
- 2:00Speaker 4: I'm going this hard and no I won't stop. Yeah,
- 2:05Speaker 4: yes I'm on top.
- 2:06Speaker 9: I'm going this hard and no I won't stop.
- 2:10Speaker 4: She say, what's up? Let me hear you holler, bitch. Actor, writer, rapper.
- 2:14Speaker 9: Nigga, I do all of it. Lactose tolerant, addicted to cheddar.
- 2:18Speaker 9: And I spend it on a jacket, man.
- 2:20Speaker 4: I don't know no better. Yeah, it's childish.
- 2:22Speaker 9: Can't be no, yeah, I'm fly as a feather. Yeah,
- 2:24Speaker 9: my nigga a piece of bourbon, but my flow keep
- 2:27Speaker 9: it ghetto. Keep my swag up all the more. You
- 2:29Speaker 9: can watch it develop.
- 2:30Speaker 4: Ain't it funny? In a year, I went from different
- 2:32Speaker 4: to Welcome.
- 2:33Speaker 9: To Movie Meltdown Sofa Theater.
- 2:37Speaker 4: Once again, I'm.
- 3:02Speaker 8: Well, I'm Brian.
- 3:03Speaker 6: I like to skateboard. And I'm Greg.
- 3:07Speaker 8: If you know Derek comedy, you'll get that joke.
- 3:09Speaker 5: Anyway, this week's Sofa Theater feature is Mystery Team.
- 3:12Speaker 3: Nice.
- 3:13Speaker 5: The year is 2009. Director Dan Ekman. The plot, according
- 3:19Speaker 5: to IMDb, and once again, they go straight for the
- 3:23Speaker 5: most identifiable source. A group of former Encyclopedia Brown-style child
- 3:28Speaker 5: detectives struggle to solve an adult mystery.
- 3:31Speaker 8: So, spoiler alert if you haven't seen Mystery Team.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Mystery Team.
- 3:35Speaker 5: Because we're going to go into some of the best jokes. So,
- 3:38Speaker 5: I'd advise you right now, go see it. Especially if
- 3:41Speaker 5: you're a comedy fan.
- 3:43Speaker 8: Because, yeah, it's pretty damned awesome.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 3:47Speaker 6: I realized after the fact I probably should have been
- 3:50Speaker 6: writing down some of the one-liners.
- 3:52Speaker 5: There's too many to keep up with.
- 3:54Speaker 2: There's too many.
- 3:55Speaker 8: If you want that, just get the screenplay.
- 3:56Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 3:56Speaker 8: Because, oh, every line.
- 3:57Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 4:01Speaker 10: All right.
- 4:01Speaker 8: Where would you like to begin?
- 4:03Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
- 4:04Speaker 6: I came into this completely blind. I'd heard about it.
- 4:08Speaker 6: A friend recommended it at a former place of employment
- 4:12Speaker 6: recently and didn't know I was even going to be
- 4:16Speaker 6: watching it until a few days ago. So, yeah, I
- 4:18Speaker 6: came into it completely blind, didn't know much about any
- 4:22Speaker 6: of it. So, therefore... This completely took me off guard.
- 4:25Speaker 2: I knew it was a comedy.
- 4:26Speaker 6: I had read the IMDB description. Who knows? It could
- 4:31Speaker 6: have been a horror movie starring Danny Glover. Who knows?
- 4:36Speaker 6: Based on some of their... But anyway, yeah, no. Definitely
- 4:41Speaker 6: a comedy.
- 4:43Speaker 8: Oh, I would say.
- 4:45Speaker 5: I was asking you earlier if you were familiar with
- 4:47Speaker 5: Derek comedy, which is where they came from. This is
- 4:51Speaker 5: basically the the complete realization of the rest of their
- 4:56Speaker 5: existence up to this point. They started as Sketch Comedy Troop,
- 5:01Speaker 5: and I think they were all going to, like, New
- 5:03Speaker 5: York University. And the reason most people wouldn't know who
- 5:07Speaker 5: they are, they started doing, like, the video version. You know,
- 5:11Speaker 5: I guess Sketch Comedy is, you know, moving into the
- 5:14Speaker 5: new millennium here, so basically all of it became YouTube videos.
- 5:17Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
- 5:18Speaker 5: So at that point, I mean, they had a whole
- 5:20Speaker 5: string of Derek Comedy Presents YouTube videos that got millions
- 5:25Speaker 5: of hits. There's one or two that are just pretty
- 5:28Speaker 5: damned amazing and did get a ton of hits over
- 5:31Speaker 5: the years. They sort of built up their reputation like that,
- 5:35Speaker 5: and that's all they'd done outside of... I mean, they
- 5:38Speaker 5: all sort of did independent stuff on their own, especially
- 5:42Speaker 5: our main guy here.
- 5:44Speaker 6: You know, I know that I've recognized them all, and
- 5:46Speaker 6: I've probably even seen some of their stuff online. You
- 5:50Speaker 6: see so much, but I never paid attention to where
- 5:53Speaker 6: it was coming from or who it was.
- 5:54Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, a lot of it, yeah, it's... definitely stuff.
- 5:58Speaker 5: Most people had seen some version of, um, I mean,
- 6:01Speaker 5: they just put it out as their own thing, but
- 6:03Speaker 5: then they, I think they ended up on, I think
- 6:06Speaker 5: what the funny or die had a lot of their,
- 6:09Speaker 5: that carried just about all of them, I think. So
- 6:11Speaker 5: it's definitely one that people ran across. And, uh, I
- 6:14Speaker 5: think it did build up a lot of the reputation,
- 6:17Speaker 5: especially Donald Glover. Donald Glover is, is sort of the
- 6:20Speaker 5: main star here. And, and it's, you know, it's a trio,
- 6:24Speaker 5: but he, he sort of steals the spotlight if nothing else.
- 6:27Speaker 8: And, uh, He's pretty damned amazing. To me, he makes
- 6:31Speaker 8: this movie.
- 6:32Speaker 5: The other two are awesome and definitely find their place
- 6:35Speaker 5: within the movie, but he's amazing to watch. It is
- 6:42Speaker 5: amazing that he started just making YouTube videos and within
- 6:47Speaker 5: the span of a couple years was writing for 30
- 6:49Speaker 5: Rock and now stars on Community with Chevy Chase and
- 6:56Speaker 5: all all these other people on a network TV show.
- 6:59Speaker 5: So in such a small amount of time, he's built
- 7:02Speaker 5: up this pretty damn impressive career. And you obviously couldn't
- 7:06Speaker 5: do that without being immensely talented, which he really is,
- 7:10Speaker 5: especially when it comes to comedy. But just in general,
- 7:12Speaker 5: he's pretty impressive.
- 7:14Speaker 6: That's what I was going to say. When you were
- 7:16Speaker 6: listing the description of how he got where he is,
- 7:20Speaker 6: that's the one thing that was coming to mind. And
- 7:22Speaker 6: you just said that talented people who find a way
- 7:25Speaker 6: cream rises to the top i guess is the cliche
- 7:28Speaker 6: but yeah they find a way uh to shine and
- 7:31Speaker 6: people notice it that's all there is to.
- 7:33Speaker 5: It it's yeah i mean it it does show you
- 7:35Speaker 5: really it has changed the whole system at this point
- 7:38Speaker 5: that you can go from youtube videos and you know
- 7:41Speaker 5: next thing you know you've got your own network show
- 7:43Speaker 5: so yeah it's it's pretty amazing how the the business
- 7:47Speaker 5: has changed in just the last couple of decades it's
- 7:51Speaker 5: phenomenally different.
- 7:52Speaker 6: Right um you know you say that i i don't
- 7:56Speaker 6: know his his background i don't know if he's like
- 7:58Speaker 6: formal training or anything like that right and i don't
- 8:01Speaker 6: even know how versed you are on it but i
- 8:03Speaker 6: guess i guess you think that there may be people
- 8:06Speaker 6: out there that just purely are talented and get it
- 8:09Speaker 6: and may i think before you had to have had
- 8:11Speaker 6: that you got to put in your time with a
- 8:13Speaker 6: you know an improv group and you've got to spend
- 8:16Speaker 6: years on stage not making any money and you know
- 8:19Speaker 6: now it you if you're good, you're good.
- 8:21Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 8:22Speaker 6: That may completely have changed by now.
- 8:24Speaker 5: I think all of them were, were sort of good
- 8:26Speaker 5: in their own right. I guess as far as training, they,
- 8:28Speaker 5: they did kind of catch on at a upright citizens brigade,
- 8:31Speaker 5: the theater that's there in New York. And I think
- 8:34Speaker 5: that's where they did a lot of their training. But again,
- 8:37Speaker 5: it's funny to watch. I mean, half of the stuff
- 8:39Speaker 5: that comes into play in this movie, you see like
- 8:42Speaker 5: in its infancy in, you know, stuff they've been doing on,
- 8:45Speaker 5: on the other skits over the years, especially with him.
- 8:48Speaker 5: I mean, the joke of half of his is him
- 8:51Speaker 5: doing these crazy characters and voices.
- 8:53Speaker 8: So the fact that they make him this, you.
- 8:55Speaker 5: Know, master of disguise where every 10 minutes he's pretending
- 8:59Speaker 5: to be another character sort of works in as its
- 9:01Speaker 5: own joke.
- 9:02Speaker 8: If you're familiar with, familiar with it, with Derek comedy.
- 9:05Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 9:06Speaker 6: And it stands alone with, even without that, it stands alone.
- 9:09Speaker 6: I'd wonder when you mentioned a upper citizens brigade, I
- 9:12Speaker 6: know Matt Walsh, that's kind of got a cameo in
- 9:16Speaker 6: it as Derek, Jim from the.
- 9:19Speaker 2: The cowboy.
- 9:20Speaker 6: Right, the cowboy. And then was Geordie the.
- 9:25Speaker 6: Was he Upright Citizen Brigade as well? I'm pretty sure
- 9:29Speaker 6: that's where he originated from.
- 9:29Speaker 8: He's part of the third group.
- 9:31Speaker 5: They were saying he's the only other one that that
- 9:33Speaker 5: role was written for, other than the three main leads.
- 9:37Speaker 5: Everybody else they brought in because they were their friends
- 9:39Speaker 5: or they were just good actors, but they wrote the
- 9:41Speaker 5: Geordie role for that guy.
- 9:43Speaker 6: Plus, he definitely, you can tell, was almost probably a
- 9:48Speaker 6: fully realized character before he ever got there. He's that...
- 9:52Speaker 6: good and that well-developed and you could watch convincing yeah
- 9:55Speaker 6: you could watch an hour of that character and never
- 9:57Speaker 6: get bored i think.
- 9:58Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure he's rung me up at the quickie
- 9:59Speaker 5: marshmallow that guy is.
- 10:02Speaker 8: A real guy yeah oh shut.
- 10:07Speaker 4: It It's the mystery team!
- 10:10Speaker 6: What is up, you guys?
- 10:11Speaker 4: Hey, Jordy. What's buzzing, cousin? Staying cool, fool.
- 10:16Speaker 8: Oh, hey, I got a new gum flavor for you.
- 10:18Speaker 8: It's a watermelon whirlpool.
- 10:21Speaker 2: Yeah, put it in your mouth.
- 10:22Speaker 5: Eat it.
- 10:22Speaker 4: That's so boss. It's on me.
- 10:24Speaker 8: Neato.
- 10:25Speaker 6: Wow, I haven't seen you guys in a while. You
- 10:27Speaker 6: guys used to come in here all.
- 10:28Speaker 8: The time back in the day.
- 10:30Speaker 1: You guys would solve a crime, and then you would
- 10:32Speaker 1: come in here, and I would give you free ice cream.
- 10:36Speaker 8: And we're still doing it.
- 10:37Speaker 6: You guys are still solving crimes, and sure enough, I'm
- 10:39Speaker 6: still right here.
- 10:40Speaker 8: We are doing it.
- 10:42Speaker 5: That's what I think is so different about what they do,
- 10:45Speaker 5: is it's so reality-based in a way, which is funny
- 10:50Speaker 5: in this movie, because... they sort of exist in their
- 10:53Speaker 5: own little world. They, they really, they do sort of
- 10:56Speaker 5: create their own existence.
- 10:58Speaker 8: So I don't know.
- 10:59Speaker 5: It puts this comedy in a very different group than most,
- 11:02Speaker 5: but at the same time, they, they've got sort of
- 11:05Speaker 5: this hard edge to it. Like it, you know, most things,
- 11:10Speaker 5: especially comedies today are very dumb and play, you know,
- 11:13Speaker 5: play very low brow where this one has the moments
- 11:16Speaker 5: of that.
- 11:16Speaker 8: No doubt about it.
- 11:18Speaker 5: You think, but at the same time, it like gets
- 11:20Speaker 5: to the point of, of just like sadness at points where,
- 11:25Speaker 5: where you have, you know, Jim telling him, don't be
- 11:27Speaker 5: like me.
- 11:27Speaker 7: Right.
- 11:28Speaker 8: I'm, I'm pretty sad.
- 11:30Speaker 5: Or you see Geordi, like just like living vicariously through
- 11:33Speaker 5: these little kids and like wishing he could be them,
- 11:37Speaker 5: you know, wishing he could be as cool as them,
- 11:38Speaker 5: even though he's, you know, he's been older than them
- 11:41Speaker 5: the whole time and he's had all these chances to
- 11:43Speaker 5: do something with his life, but he sits there sort of,
- 11:46Speaker 5: you know, ruining the day that, you know, he, he
- 11:49Speaker 5: stayed at the quickie mart there and has spent his
- 11:51Speaker 5: entire life kind of wasted trying to sell him the
- 11:54Speaker 5: opposite story. But you feel this like really sad, right?
- 11:58Speaker 5: He's just such a sad character and they definitely work
- 12:01Speaker 5: in that, that level of, realism, like almost painful realism
- 12:06Speaker 5: in the middle of like these ridiculous situations that I
- 12:09Speaker 5: think that is, is something that sort of sets them
- 12:11Speaker 5: above a lot of other, especially sketch comedy or, or
- 12:15Speaker 5: movies that try to do like ridiculous comedy at this point.
- 12:18Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:19Speaker 6: There, there, there were some, uh, poignant moments when you,
- 12:23Speaker 6: when you talk about that, especially when you speak of
- 12:25Speaker 6: Geordie and I know we're talking about a minor character
- 12:27Speaker 6: or so much at the beginning, but I guess when
- 12:31Speaker 6: you have that deep of a character in just a
- 12:33Speaker 6: few scenes, I guess it, it sticks out. But, um,
- 12:37Speaker 6: he's someone that is wishing to be someone who these people,
- 12:42Speaker 6: they want to, they know themselves, they want to be
- 12:44Speaker 6: somebody else.
- 12:45Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:45Speaker 6: You know, the, um, Charlie, he wants to be, is
- 12:48Speaker 6: that his name that wants to be on the football team?
- 12:51Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 12:52Speaker 6: Hey, see you at practice. He says to the rest
- 12:54Speaker 6: of the, the, uh, the, the football team. And, He's
- 12:59Speaker 6: almost acting the same way Geordie does when he's trying
- 13:01Speaker 6: to put his hand into the go mystery team later
- 13:05Speaker 6: on from behind the counter. No matter how low you
- 13:11Speaker 6: think you are or lame, you might even realize that
- 13:14Speaker 6: in that self-realization moment, and you're wanting to be someone else,
- 13:17Speaker 6: there's a lot of times somebody just hoping they could
- 13:19Speaker 6: be you or what they think you are.
- 13:21Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 13:22Speaker 6: So it, there's more than just a gross out moments
- 13:26Speaker 6: and silly and silly bits in this movie. There's actually
- 13:29Speaker 6: some substance to it.
- 13:29Speaker 5: So, and again, something that I give them credit for, well,
- 13:33Speaker 5: first and foremost, just writing the writing in this is amazing.
- 13:37Speaker 8: Like it, every line is just, not only is it hilarious,
- 13:41Speaker 8: but it's amazing.
- 13:42Speaker 5: The attention to detail, like the, the level, because they're,
- 13:45Speaker 5: you know, uh, Again, hopefully you've already seen this. If not,
- 13:48Speaker 5: we're kind of ruining a lot of what's going on here.
- 13:50Speaker 5: So definitely go watch it. But so much of it
- 13:53Speaker 5: is based around the fact that they still kind of
- 13:55Speaker 5: think they're kids.
- 13:56Speaker 1: Look, I know when you were younger, the whole town,
- 13:59Speaker 1: myself included, was very amused by you and the mystery kids.
- 14:02Speaker 6: Mystery team, okay?
- 14:03Speaker 1: Mystery team. People used to call us heroes. And it
- 14:06Speaker 1: really razzes my berries when people don't take us seriously.
- 14:09Speaker 1: I mean, look how big my magnifying glass is.
- 14:14Speaker 8: Your head's big. Put that down. That's enough. You're an
- 14:17Speaker 8: adult now.
- 14:19Speaker 5: Act like one. There really is this level of where
- 14:22Speaker 5: they really believe that there's still these seven-year-olds that are
- 14:24Speaker 5: out there. And they've grown up over the years, but
- 14:26Speaker 5: it's like they haven't really grown up. So there's them
- 14:30Speaker 5: sort of dealing with that. And that's the part of
- 14:32Speaker 5: the writing that I think is kind of, once again, impressive.
- 14:36Speaker 5: Because not only is it bits and one-liners, but... they
- 14:39Speaker 5: do bother to put in like this character development. Like,
- 14:42Speaker 5: you know, it could have very easily been nothing but,
- 14:44Speaker 5: you know, stupid little skits stolen from their YouTube videos and,
- 14:48Speaker 5: you know, pieced them all together, but it's not. It's like,
- 14:50Speaker 5: they really do bother to, to show, you know, over
- 14:53Speaker 5: the space. We start off with them still kind of
- 14:56Speaker 5: living that child lifestyle, but there's several scenes in there
- 14:59Speaker 5: where they're sort of like breaking down and like, you know,
- 15:02Speaker 5: I don't want to do this anymore. Or, you know,
- 15:04Speaker 5: I don't want to not be around you guys. And
- 15:06Speaker 5: there's two or three scenes where, it's kind of played
- 15:09Speaker 5: for laughs, but at the same time, there is a
- 15:11Speaker 5: message of, of them fighting growing up and fighting, having
- 15:14Speaker 5: to take on adult responsibilities. And part of that is
- 15:17Speaker 5: being separated from each other.
- 15:19Speaker 8: They're, they're this little.
- 15:20Speaker 5: Team of kids that, you know, you do hit that
- 15:22Speaker 5: point when you're out of high school and all of
- 15:24Speaker 5: a sudden you're whoever, all your group of friends is
- 15:27Speaker 5: now gone. And, and it rarely sticks together after that fact,
- 15:31Speaker 5: everybody sort of parts ways. And that's a lot of
- 15:34Speaker 5: times the last you see of these people. So it
- 15:36Speaker 5: is sort of something that's, hard to deal with. It's
- 15:39Speaker 5: this coming of age story for these guys that really
- 15:42Speaker 5: should have grown up a long time ago. Right.
- 15:44Speaker 6: Well, they, they still value, um, they truly value innocence
- 15:50Speaker 6: as a defense mechanism.
- 15:51Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 15:51Speaker 6: That's, that's really what, I mean, they, you know, they
- 15:53Speaker 6: still like chocolate milk and drink chocolate because it, it will,
- 15:57Speaker 6: it tastes better than white milk or regular. So, and,
- 16:01Speaker 6: and that's not just because of a taste. It's, it's that, um,
- 16:04Speaker 6: if we don't acknowledge that we have to grow up
- 16:07Speaker 6: or that we're growing up, we'll never have to do it.
- 16:10Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 16:10Speaker 8: Um, I mean, yeah, Jason Donald Glover really lives in that.
- 16:14Speaker 5: Like the other two are starting to, you know, realize
- 16:17Speaker 5: sort of make plans past, you know, graduation. And it's like,
- 16:20Speaker 5: he really like delusionally is kind of like tricking himself
- 16:24Speaker 5: into like, if I just don't, you know, don't make
- 16:27Speaker 5: those plans. If I don't, you know, make any adjustments
- 16:30Speaker 5: in my life, then I can live like this forever.
- 16:32Speaker 3: Right. Yeah.
- 16:33Speaker 6: And actually the reveal is later, you know, the two others,
- 16:36Speaker 6: his buddies reveal, Hey, we're just playing along, you know,
- 16:40Speaker 6: to keep the group together. We thought you knew that
- 16:44Speaker 6: this really wasn't real. And, um, obviously Jason didn't get it.
- 16:49Speaker 5: So, but they still kind of live in that world too.
- 16:52Speaker 5: I mean, they're just slowly making adjustments as they go,
- 16:56Speaker 5: but it's, yeah, it's amazing how all three of them
- 16:58Speaker 5: really do sort of convincingly pull off this like seven
- 17:02Speaker 5: year old mentality for guys that are probably in their
- 17:05Speaker 5: mid twenties easily.
- 17:06Speaker 12: Right.
- 17:07Speaker 5: Right. And that's hard to do too. It's like performance wise,
- 17:10Speaker 5: there's a lot of people that don't, there's so many
- 17:12Speaker 5: little subtle things in lines here and there that just
- 17:16Speaker 5: You wouldn't be able to pull off unless you were
- 17:18Speaker 5: kind of skilled and able to tap back into that.
- 17:21Speaker 3: Right.
- 17:22Speaker 4: Oh, man.
- 17:22Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know that it's giving them– I mean,
- 17:25Speaker 6: you could start rattling off some of them, but I
- 17:27Speaker 6: don't know that that's giving them any– you know, we
- 17:30Speaker 6: can sit around for an hour and go, dude, what
- 17:32Speaker 6: about this line? What about this? And, yeah, I mean,
- 17:35Speaker 6: they're all funny, and I'd love– I want– I want
- 17:38Speaker 6: that moment of showing it to someone else and them
- 17:40Speaker 6: realizing and laughing at that. Because that's the payoff. I mean,
- 17:45Speaker 6: it's a good story. You do see, you say, you
- 17:49Speaker 6: have an arc of character development within the movie. And
- 17:51Speaker 6: that's showing that they know how a movie should go.
- 17:55Speaker 6: But at the same time, they're wildly talented with good comedy.
- 18:00Speaker 5: Yeah. And it's all within the group. It's like they
- 18:03Speaker 5: wrote everything. They're all, I think, contributors on the writing side.
- 18:07Speaker 8: Everybody like, yeah.
- 18:08Speaker 6: Score.
- 18:09Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 18:09Speaker 8: Donald did the score.
- 18:11Speaker 5: Um, the other guys like the art director. So, I mean,
- 18:13Speaker 5: everybody has like, I mean, it really was like they
- 18:16Speaker 5: kept doing these YouTube videos only it became, you know,
- 18:20Speaker 5: like a budgeted project at this point. And it, Again,
- 18:23Speaker 5: I give them credit for really like they, they put
- 18:25Speaker 5: this Derek comedy group together and basically everything they made
- 18:30Speaker 5: over the years, everything they made off, you know, advertisements
- 18:33Speaker 5: for people going to their website or anything, man, performances,
- 18:36Speaker 5: anything they did, they didn't divvy it out to the group.
- 18:39Speaker 8: They didn't like go, okay.
- 18:41Speaker 5: You know, cause number one, they were like, you know,
- 18:43Speaker 5: people are going to squabble for stupid money and that
- 18:46Speaker 5: ruins the group. But on top of that, it's like,
- 18:48Speaker 5: we need to do something better with this. We need
- 18:50Speaker 5: to put it towards something. So everything they made over
- 18:52Speaker 5: the years, they saved up to put into the financing
- 18:55Speaker 5: of this movie. And it was years and years in
- 18:58Speaker 5: the making. And that's, again, impressive on that level, too. Again,
- 19:02Speaker 5: most people aren't that talented and have a sense for business.
- 19:06Speaker 5: But on top of that, I have just this lack
- 19:09Speaker 5: of greed. They really weren't worried about... I mean, it
- 19:13Speaker 5: wasn't that much money anyway. You know, you don't make
- 19:16Speaker 5: much either doing stand-up or skit comedy or, you know,
- 19:19Speaker 5: even hits off a website. It's like, you know, we're
- 19:22Speaker 5: not making much. But what we're making, we want to
- 19:24Speaker 5: put towards something. So that's kind of a selfless version of,
- 19:27Speaker 5: you know, this group of people that you don't see
- 19:30Speaker 5: a lot either.
- 19:31Speaker 6: Well, and, you know, when you put it that way too,
- 19:33Speaker 6: you know, I did notice, you know, with credits are rolling,
- 19:36Speaker 6: I said, wow, he's actually the executive producer on this.
- 19:40Speaker 6: Like you said, they put up their own... money really
- 19:43Speaker 6: to get this done and so therefore if you like
- 19:46Speaker 6: that kind of stuff they're making the money on the
- 19:49Speaker 6: DVD sales back end anyway. If you like it, go
- 19:52Speaker 6: buy it. That's the way, obviously, they're putting their talent
- 19:57Speaker 6: and their money back into their craft. Those are the
- 19:59Speaker 6: kind of people that if you like it, you definitely
- 20:01Speaker 6: need to go buy. And that probably just sealed it
- 20:04Speaker 6: for me. I mean, Not that I'm going to sit
- 20:06Speaker 6: around and watch this a hundred times.
- 20:07Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 20:08Speaker 6: Okay, maybe portions. There might be certain parts of scenes
- 20:12Speaker 6: that I don't want to see again. But that's just,
- 20:16Speaker 6: I get a little queasy sometimes.
- 20:18Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing that is so weird about this,
- 20:21Speaker 5: because it's one of those, I mean, one of my
- 20:24Speaker 5: favorite YouTube videos they ever did, and obviously because I
- 20:28Speaker 5: referenced it in the intro there, is about a character
- 20:32Speaker 5: pooping his pants. Now that's, again, that's very lowbrow and
- 20:36Speaker 5: actually is not at all the type of comedy I
- 20:38Speaker 5: usually respond to. And that's why I know these guys
- 20:40Speaker 5: are kind of skilled at what they do because normally,
- 20:44Speaker 5: I mean, there's a million YouTube videos out there of
- 20:46Speaker 5: some idiot in his basement, like pretending that he's funny,
- 20:50Speaker 5: thinking that he's funny and talking about poop and fart jokes.
- 20:53Speaker 5: And I'm not entertained with any of those. So the
- 20:56Speaker 5: fact that they can take stuff that's as guttural as
- 20:59Speaker 5: a lot of this is, and actually be clever with
- 21:02Speaker 5: it and sort of appeal to you on that, on
- 21:04Speaker 5: that seven year old kid level where you're like, you know,
- 21:07Speaker 5: you're laughing at somebody for pooping their pants.
- 21:08Speaker 2: Right.
- 21:09Speaker 8: But at the same time, there's just.
- 21:11Speaker 5: Such well-written lines, such good delivery.
- 21:14Speaker 8: It's just amazing.
- 21:15Speaker 5: And that, that's again, why I think they're so talented
- 21:18Speaker 5: is the fact that they can take something that's that
- 21:21Speaker 5: dumb and kind of make it smart. And at least
- 21:24Speaker 5: in the delivery and the, in the way that they
- 21:26Speaker 5: present it, make it better than that. You know, that's,
- 21:30Speaker 5: It's a weird combination, I have to say, and they
- 21:34Speaker 5: don't disappoint on those kind of gross-out jokes in the
- 21:36Speaker 5: movie either.
- 21:37Speaker 9: Right.
- 21:38Speaker 6: You know, I actually thought of this during the movie.
- 21:41Speaker 6: I thought, wow, this done wrong could be dumb and dumber.
- 21:45Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 21:45Speaker 6: Very easily could be. And I know a lot of
- 21:48Speaker 6: people like that movie, and I know that there are
- 21:50Speaker 6: good parts, there are scenes that that's they stick with
- 21:54Speaker 6: you and they're pretty good scenes but there's a lot
- 21:56Speaker 6: of it that's just complete throwaway yeah a lot of
- 21:59Speaker 6: scenes that people love still that i don't get that
- 22:02Speaker 6: love those scenes i i think well that's just it
- 22:05Speaker 6: wasn't the funny the first time it's still not um
- 22:08Speaker 6: this they make that reveal of of innocence repeated over
- 22:15Speaker 6: and over and over that same joke of is i'd
- 22:18Speaker 6: I don't know what you're talking about. Can you explain?
- 22:21Speaker 6: What is it? I'll pay you, but I'll pay you
- 22:23Speaker 6: five bucks if you can tell me what it is.
- 22:26Speaker 8: There's a.
- 22:29Speaker 5: We'll just say it. She's a stripper. And she tells
- 22:32Speaker 5: him for 20 bucks he can do something. And yeah,
- 22:35Speaker 5: he retorts with, I'll give you five to tell me
- 22:37Speaker 5: what that means.
- 22:39Speaker 8: That....
- 22:41Speaker 6: Yes, it's funny, but they make that same premise of
- 22:44Speaker 6: a joke repeatedly, really in every scene.
- 22:47Speaker 5: But.
- 22:47Speaker 6: It works every single time.
- 22:49Speaker 5: They find a way. Again, because it's not really the
- 22:52Speaker 5: same joke. It's that premise.
- 22:53Speaker 3: Right.
- 22:53Speaker 5: But they find a way to be clever and sort
- 22:57Speaker 5: of make it a different twist. And there's just times
- 22:59Speaker 5: when you don't see it coming still. You're following along
- 23:03Speaker 5: with whatever they say. And they'll hit you upside the
- 23:05Speaker 5: head with something so ridiculous. Right. And so, yeah, just
- 23:09Speaker 5: completely oblivious to what's going on in the real world.
- 23:12Speaker 6: Like, guys, I think we just had sex.
- 23:14Speaker 8: No, the one that kills me.
- 23:16Speaker 5: One of the characters starts doing the finger and the
- 23:20Speaker 5: whole maneuver. Right.
- 23:22Speaker 8: You know, he's mimicking sex with his hands. I think
- 23:24Speaker 8: we all know how that works.
- 23:25Speaker 6: Right.
- 23:27Speaker 8: And our boy Charlie goes, he's trying to play along
- 23:31Speaker 8: like kids do.
- 23:31Speaker 5: You try to act a little older than y'all. You
- 23:33Speaker 5: try to act like you know what's going on. So
- 23:35Speaker 5: he starts elbowing.
- 23:36Speaker 8: He's like, yeah, yeah, poker in the eye. And the
- 23:41Speaker 8: first time I heard that, I almost... i almost hurt.
- 23:44Speaker 5: Myself i was laughing so hard because again i thought
- 23:47Speaker 5: he was going with that that maneuver that most kids
- 23:50Speaker 5: do and he was gonna actually you know just play
- 23:53Speaker 5: along with yeah and i know what should yeah oh
- 23:56Speaker 5: that that line is so just so caught me off
- 24:00Speaker 5: guard and it's still so funny oh.
- 24:04Speaker 8: My god oh man.
- 24:07Speaker 5: So yeah there's there's Again, I think there's something to
- 24:10Speaker 5: this that just works, and that's what I noticed. It's
- 24:13Speaker 5: funny you brought up the dumb and dumber thing, because
- 24:15Speaker 5: that's what I was thinking. I was like, this really
- 24:18Speaker 5: fits within a style of comedy, and the Farley brothers
- 24:23Speaker 5: definitely have a style of comedy. They're one of those
- 24:25Speaker 5: that sort of found their niche, and I think they
- 24:28Speaker 5: are actually talented.
- 24:29Speaker 2: Oh, sure.
- 24:30Speaker 5: They've got a lot of, and they're sort of skilled
- 24:32Speaker 5: at structuring stuff and finding ways to put bits together
- 24:36Speaker 5: into a bigger picture and make it work Again, it's
- 24:40Speaker 5: not my favorite, and there's definitely moments that are great
- 24:44Speaker 5: in their stuff, but there is a lot of stuff
- 24:46Speaker 5: that is just that guttural humor, and that's it.
- 24:49Speaker 8: There is no other level to it.
- 24:51Speaker 5: It really is just you're laughing at that, the most
- 24:54Speaker 5: base level of comedy. And that's fine, and that's what
- 24:58Speaker 5: I've noticed with this and with all comedies. It's like
- 25:01Speaker 5: there really is just a style, and you either get.
- 25:04Speaker 8: It or you don't.
- 25:05Speaker 5: Right. it's sort of what we were talking about on
- 25:08Speaker 5: the show itself lately is, you know, there's, you know,
- 25:11Speaker 5: people find certain things funny and it's one of those,
- 25:14Speaker 5: you either get it or you don't. And you can't,
- 25:16Speaker 5: you can't make somebody like something. It's like, you're, you're
- 25:19Speaker 5: either a fan of comedy or you're not, which is
- 25:22Speaker 5: hopefully a pretty broad term and people will find something
- 25:24Speaker 5: that they like. But even then it's like, you know,
- 25:27Speaker 5: especially like lately we've found people like the Farley brothers
- 25:29Speaker 5: that create their own little universe and like, all their
- 25:32Speaker 5: characters and their sense of ridiculousness all sort of work
- 25:35Speaker 5: within the same set of rules. Or you look at
- 25:38Speaker 5: even something like Judd Apatow's done where, I mean, all
- 25:41Speaker 5: of his are sort of in the same universe and
- 25:43Speaker 5: you have these same guys. And again, it sort of
- 25:46Speaker 5: ties into this too of, of guys that kind of
- 25:48Speaker 5: don't want to grow up and are dealing with that.
- 25:51Speaker 5: So he's definitely found a very serious, you know, note
- 25:54Speaker 5: to play on all of his movies. So it's, But
- 25:57Speaker 5: it is one of those you just sort of click
- 26:00Speaker 5: with a certain type of comedy or you don't. And
- 26:02Speaker 5: I think this is one of those, I mean, if
- 26:03Speaker 5: you get what they do, if you like it, you'll
- 26:06Speaker 5: kind of be where I was and just be.
- 26:08Speaker 8: Like, man, this is awesome.
- 26:10Speaker 5: And I really am impressed with everything that goes on
- 26:12Speaker 5: in this movie and pretty much everything they've done. Right.
- 26:15Speaker 6: And, you know, it never felt– it's paced well because
- 26:19Speaker 6: it never– Was it maybe an hour 40, something like that?
- 26:23Speaker 6: It's like an hour, yeah, a little over an hour
- 26:25Speaker 6: and a half. Yeah, it never felt slow. It never drugged.
- 26:30Speaker 6: The scenes never went on longer than they needed to.
- 26:33Speaker 6: It doesn't feel like... It doesn't feel like.
- 26:38Speaker 8: Like a Saturday Night Live movie?
- 26:40Speaker 6: Right, right. I mean, exactly. That's probably the case in point.
- 26:44Speaker 6: Saturday Night Live movies... Um, they, they're like, I can,
- 26:48Speaker 6: you can just see them sitting around the writer's table going,
- 26:50Speaker 6: how are we going to push this to 90 minutes?
- 26:52Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 26:52Speaker 6: Over and over and over.
- 26:54Speaker 5: That's what they've done for years is let's take a skit,
- 26:56Speaker 5: basically the, you know, five minute YouTube videos that these
- 26:59Speaker 5: guys were making and then stretch it out through an
- 27:01Speaker 5: hour and a half.
- 27:02Speaker 8: And you feel it on those. I mean, you, you're,
- 27:04Speaker 8: they're grueling sometimes.
- 27:06Speaker 12: Right.
- 27:07Speaker 5: It's yeah that's they just have to work so hard
- 27:09Speaker 5: to make it a feature film where this doesn't feel
- 27:12Speaker 5: like that and i think it wasn't directly not that
- 27:15Speaker 5: i don't think i've seen these specific characters i think
- 27:17Speaker 5: it was an idea they had with that concept of
- 27:20Speaker 5: making it a movie and just taking you know their
- 27:22Speaker 5: style of comedy and adapting it onto these characters so
- 27:25Speaker 5: i think that helped them right off the bat.
- 27:27Speaker 6: Sure yeah and i guess that it helps it helps
- 27:30Speaker 6: i guess if you're making those short films and uh
- 27:33Speaker 6: writing writing those that when you need filler to throw
- 27:36Speaker 6: in an extra character, you can do that fairly easily.
- 27:41Speaker 6: Like Matt Walsh's character, that really is an unnecessary character
- 27:45Speaker 6: in the film. It does help the plot a little bit,
- 27:48Speaker 6: push it along, but it's very funny. And it pushes
- 27:55Speaker 6: that time filler if you need to ratchet it up
- 27:59Speaker 6: a notch.
- 27:59Speaker 5: I always.
- 28:02Speaker 6: When I watch movies, I'm like, okay, why is this
- 28:04Speaker 6: character here? Especially if they're taking up more than five minutes.
- 28:08Speaker 6: Are they really pushing anything? Or are they just funny?
- 28:12Speaker 6: And sometimes people throw that in, but he definitely was
- 28:17Speaker 6: a plot character. It definitely helped in a few spots
- 28:20Speaker 6: you needed to move things along. But at the same time,
- 28:23Speaker 6: you don't see, oh, well, they just threw that in
- 28:25Speaker 6: as a favor or something like that.
- 28:27Speaker 5: Yeah, none of it felt like just like inserts, you know,
- 28:30Speaker 5: because there are ones in those other type of comedies
- 28:33Speaker 5: that are just like, Here's a character we all know,
- 28:36Speaker 5: or here's an actor that we're friends with, and we
- 28:39Speaker 5: wanted to work him in doing this crazy character. And
- 28:41Speaker 5: it's like, I never got that with this. And I mean,
- 28:44Speaker 5: they probably know people. They could have done that. You know,
- 28:47Speaker 5: they've gotten pretty popular over the years. So it's like
- 28:49Speaker 5: they probably could have roped in some of their friends
- 28:51Speaker 5: and probably recognizable people. But it's like, to me, it's
- 28:55Speaker 5: like they didn't want to force it in there, I'm assuming,
- 28:58Speaker 5: because nothing that they put in there, everything feels like
- 29:00Speaker 5: it is tied to the plot.
- 29:01Speaker 11: Right.
- 29:02Speaker 5: And all the performances feel kind of natural with where
- 29:05Speaker 5: they are and what they're doing. It doesn't feel like
- 29:07Speaker 5: they're just hammering in funny characters, again, just for a
- 29:10Speaker 5: little bit here and there.
- 29:11Speaker 6: I thought about this thinking about it as well. Again,
- 29:14Speaker 6: forgive me. I just, you know, first time through in
- 29:16Speaker 6: just a few minutes after watching it. Was it set?
- 29:20Speaker 6: I tried to look at the license place. Was it
- 29:22Speaker 6: was that New Hampshire?
- 29:23Speaker 5: Or do you know?
- 29:26Speaker 8: I'm not even sure.
- 29:27Speaker 6: I think I recognize the license plate as being New
- 29:31Speaker 6: Hampshire's license plate, which kind of, at least for me
- 29:34Speaker 6: being Midwest, that Midwest South line area.
- 29:39Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 29:40Speaker 6: I always feel like we're midway right it's that new
- 29:43Speaker 6: hampshire feels like it's almost a um a protected area
- 29:49Speaker 6: like you're good there's there is a certain amount of
- 29:51Speaker 6: innocence that's going to be in a smallish town in
- 29:54Speaker 6: new hampshire and That's almost like those characters couldn't exist
- 29:58Speaker 6: in most cities. You know, the principal's not going to
- 30:03Speaker 6: let them play their games, and the guy at the
- 30:05Speaker 6: bowling alley's not going to let them play their games
- 30:07Speaker 6: with them, that they really are these mystery squad kids.
- 30:11Speaker 6: And New Hampshire seems like the kind of place where
- 30:13Speaker 6: it's far enough removed and maybe a little bit, you know,
- 30:16Speaker 6: left of center, a little bit oddball enough that, okay, well,
- 30:20Speaker 6: they're okay. We're going to let them do their thing,
- 30:22Speaker 6: and they'll grow up eventually.
- 30:24Speaker 5: You know.
- 30:26Speaker 6: I'm not saying that it couldn't happen here, but it
- 30:28Speaker 6: seemed a little bit more believable. I was like, oh, okay,
- 30:31Speaker 6: New Hampshire.
- 30:31Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 30:32Speaker 6: They could get away with that there.
- 30:33Speaker 8: And they're often like a little closed off suburb looking area.
- 30:37Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly.
- 30:37Speaker 5: So, I mean, definitely in that little world. I mean,
- 30:40Speaker 5: they don't look like they, you know, they're on their
- 30:41Speaker 5: bikes all day long. So, it's like they don't really
- 30:44Speaker 5: leave that little circle that they're constantly in. So, I mean,
- 30:47Speaker 5: between the playground and the school and, you know, the
- 30:50Speaker 5: quickie mart, it's like they don't ever– enter into you
- 30:53Speaker 5: know a world that people would call them on that
- 30:55Speaker 5: ever especially since people they've been doing it since they
- 30:57Speaker 5: were little kids so everybody in that area just know
- 31:00Speaker 5: oh that's those guys so everybody just sort of you
- 31:02Speaker 5: know humors them more or less and i don't know
- 31:05Speaker 5: it definitely is something that it sort of plays to
- 31:08Speaker 5: that it it kind of goes along with the innocence
- 31:10Speaker 5: because it is there's there's a lot of things that
- 31:13Speaker 5: i think are kind of cool because they're also sort
- 31:15Speaker 5: of this like They tap into this nostalgic thing with
- 31:18Speaker 5: everybody being kids.
- 31:20Speaker 3: Right.
- 31:20Speaker 5: Because they're almost living in a world that they shouldn't
- 31:23Speaker 5: even understand. They're living in like a little rascals world. Right, right.
- 31:26Speaker 5: Where there really is like, you know, all the kids
- 31:29Speaker 5: are riding bikes. And I'm like, well, that's almost a
- 31:32Speaker 5: time gone. I mean, kids now, you know, are sitting
- 31:34Speaker 5: inside playing video games all the time. So even that
- 31:37Speaker 5: world is sort of disappearing on some level.
- 31:39Speaker 9: Right.
- 31:40Speaker 5: Even then, they've got the stand out front, you know,
- 31:42Speaker 5: where they're, you know, mystery soft.
- 31:44Speaker 8: Like a lemonade stand.
- 31:45Speaker 5: And they're carrying around walkie-talkies when every other kid in
- 31:49Speaker 5: the world has a cell phone, you know.
- 31:50Speaker 8: So, I mean, they are sort of living in.
- 31:52Speaker 5: This nostalgic world that's like almost the 50s, you know.
- 31:55Speaker 5: It's like they're drinking chocolate milk and they're riding their
- 31:58Speaker 5: bikes and, you know, everything's, you know, kind of set
- 32:01Speaker 5: in this. Especially their language. I mean, everything they say is...
- 32:05Speaker 5: is just so kiddified, but not, like, annoying. Like, it
- 32:08Speaker 5: really is sort of out of a Little Rascals skit,
- 32:11Speaker 5: where they're, like, delivering lines that only work in that world,
- 32:15Speaker 5: but they're all three of them. But, you know, all
- 32:17Speaker 5: the conversations make sense and work within their world. And
- 32:21Speaker 5: then it's even more funny when it's sort of juxtaposed
- 32:23Speaker 5: with the real world, because then they get to a
- 32:25Speaker 5: world where people are like, ah.
- 32:27Speaker 8: Fuck, it's the mystery team! And, you know, they're like, ah,
- 32:29Speaker 8: what are you fuckers? What do you call them?
- 32:31Speaker 5: The.
- 32:33Speaker 8: The mystery tards.
- 32:36Speaker 5: And people you know are pulling out guns and they
- 32:38Speaker 5: just have to deal with drugs and strippers and it's
- 32:41Speaker 5: like it's so funny watching them jam these completely wide-eyed
- 32:44Speaker 5: characters into what is also you know the real world
- 32:48Speaker 5: you know it is set in today so you know
- 32:50Speaker 5: they have to sort of not only butt heads with
- 32:53Speaker 5: all these real world characters but at the same time
- 32:56Speaker 5: still sort of maintain their innocence.
- 32:57Speaker 8: Like, they don't ever really crack. Until the end, you
- 33:01Speaker 8: get a little bit.
- 33:02Speaker 5: Right. But for the most part, they still, like, completely
- 33:05Speaker 5: exist in their level of innocence. And, like, even when
- 33:08Speaker 5: they're dealing with people that are using bad words and,
- 33:11Speaker 5: you know, they're dealing with things that are kind of harsh,
- 33:14Speaker 5: you know, especially when they're solving a murder, for God's sake. Right.
- 33:17Speaker 8: That's even funnier that they get hired to solve a
- 33:20Speaker 8: double murder.
- 33:20Speaker 5: So... Yeah, it's just funny watching that level of innocence
- 33:24Speaker 5: having to deal with the real world.
- 33:27Speaker 6: Well, I got this, and I actually hesitated for a
- 33:30Speaker 6: minute there, but now that you've led up to it,
- 33:32Speaker 6: I actually hesitated to bring it up, but I think
- 33:36Speaker 6: it's good to bring it up now. During it, I
- 33:39Speaker 6: kind of got the feel of Blue Velvet.
- 33:43Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 33:44Speaker 6: You know, where there's a certain layer of This is
- 33:48Speaker 6: our town and this is how we live and this
- 33:50Speaker 6: is who we are. And then one thing flips you
- 33:54Speaker 6: on your ass, basically. And then you keep delving down
- 33:59Speaker 6: deeper and deeper. And he has a hundred chances to say,
- 34:04Speaker 6: you know what? I'm going to go to the police.
- 34:06Speaker 6: I'm going to get out of it. I can get
- 34:08Speaker 6: out of this right now. But no, I'm going to
- 34:11Speaker 6: go to the drug dealer's house. I'm going to go
- 34:13Speaker 6: try to buy cocaine from the drug... No.
- 34:16Speaker 4: No.
- 34:17Speaker 6: And both of those characters almost... They just repeatedly throw
- 34:21Speaker 6: themselves back into it over and over and over for
- 34:25Speaker 6: chasing something. I mean, both of them are chasing a girl.
- 34:28Speaker 6: Both of them are solving murders. Well, crime.
- 34:32Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 34:33Speaker 4: And....
- 34:35Speaker 6: And the places that they go and the things that
- 34:38Speaker 6: they reveal about their town, about what's going on around
- 34:41Speaker 6: town that they never had any clue was happening.
- 34:43Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 34:44Speaker 6: And in a course of two days or whatever it is,
- 34:48Speaker 6: they both have completely changed themselves. And so, I don't
- 34:52Speaker 6: know if it was intentional, but you could almost see
- 34:55Speaker 6: almost a direct parallel between the two films.
- 34:58Speaker 5: It definitely draws from that same, definitely with the small
- 35:01Speaker 5: town and the innocence, but it is funny how, yeah,
- 35:04Speaker 5: the this one thing happens that sort of catches them
- 35:06Speaker 5: off guard and sends them on this chain reaction of, yeah, being...
- 35:10Speaker 5: just thrown into this underworld of, of stuff that, you know,
- 35:13Speaker 5: at least in this town, probably always was going on.
- 35:16Speaker 8: There's both of them. I mean, that level is always there.
- 35:19Speaker 5: It's really the characters that are sort of innocent and
- 35:23Speaker 5: don't bother to venture into that world. But I mean, the,
- 35:25Speaker 5: the seedy side of that, you know, town that they
- 35:28Speaker 5: live in has always been there. It's just, yeah, they,
- 35:31Speaker 5: they choose to live in their own perfect little world
- 35:33Speaker 5: until they're sort of thrust into this.
- 35:35Speaker 4: Right.
- 35:35Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 35:35Speaker 8: That's, that's kind of cool. I hadn't thought about that one.
- 35:38Speaker 4: Well, yeah.
- 35:39Speaker 6: And yeah. And it's, Like you say, it's thrust upon them,
- 35:43Speaker 6: but they continue, almost like a drug, to keep going
- 35:47Speaker 6: back to it. Every one of these characters has a
- 35:51Speaker 6: reason why they're the Mystery Chain and why they have
- 35:53Speaker 6: to solve this. Just like in Blue Veldt, he has
- 35:56Speaker 6: his reason why he wants to uncover everything, and he
- 35:58Speaker 6: won't let it go. They both are trying to get
- 36:02Speaker 6: back to that moment of... I want to go back
- 36:06Speaker 6: to the way it was. And I, and they know
- 36:07Speaker 6: that they can't, but they're, you know, and they keep
- 36:09Speaker 6: going deeper and deeper that maybe if I can clear
- 36:12Speaker 6: this up, maybe if I can clear the tomorrow, everything
- 36:16Speaker 6: will be okay. And it will all be over with.
- 36:19Speaker 11: All right.
- 36:20Speaker 1: We promised to hand this case over to professionals, but
- 36:23Speaker 1: if something happens in the meantime, auxiliary walkie talkie.
- 36:28Speaker 8: Now be careful with this.
- 36:30Speaker 1: It's two good report cards in the summer's allowance.
- 36:32Speaker 3: Okay.
- 36:34Speaker 7: Okay.
- 36:38Speaker 8: It's fur the best, Jason.
- 36:39Speaker 5: Personally, I'm glad we're going to the police.
- 36:42Speaker 8: We're not going to the police.
- 36:44Speaker 5: What?
- 36:44Speaker 8: But you just told Kelly we would.
- 36:46Speaker 1: I told Kelly that we would hand this over to professionals.
- 36:50Speaker 8: What does it say on our sign?
- 36:52Speaker 6: Missing kitten professionals.
- 36:55Speaker 8: Oh my God, I just got that.
- 36:56Speaker 5: We're keeping evidence from the police, okay?
- 36:59Speaker 6: We could go to jail for that. Of course, that's
- 37:01Speaker 6: not going to happen.
- 37:02Speaker 5: That's not how the real world works. As they slowly
- 37:05Speaker 5: get thrust more into the real world.
- 37:08Speaker 6: There is no mystery machine. They're not meddling kids.
- 37:12Speaker 8: Well, they are meddling kids.
- 37:13Speaker 6: They are meddling kids, but not in the same way.
- 37:15Speaker 6: They're not going to reset and do it all over
- 37:17Speaker 6: again like Scooby-Doo.
- 37:18Speaker 5: Yeah, the episode doesn't start anew every day. They actually
- 37:23Speaker 5: have to deal with getting shot and their lives changing
- 37:28Speaker 5: and people's parents getting killed.
- 37:30Speaker 8: I mean, there are.
- 37:31Speaker 5: Actual consequences in this one that you aren't going to
- 37:33Speaker 5: get in an episode of Scooby-Doo.
- 37:35Speaker 4: No, no.
- 37:36Speaker 6: No, I was afraid from the first scene, I was
- 37:40Speaker 6: afraid we were going to get some kind of cheesy
- 37:42Speaker 6: Scooby-Doo reference, and I applaud them for not going there,
- 37:46Speaker 6: because it would have ruined it.
- 37:47Speaker 8: Well, even, I mean, in general, they could have gone
- 37:50Speaker 8: that route.
- 37:51Speaker 5: It could have really been an over-the-top, just mimicking, you know,
- 37:55Speaker 5: like episodes of Scooby-Doo. I mean, it could have been
- 37:57Speaker 5: like the live-action version of Scooby-Doo, because that sort of
- 38:01Speaker 5: played with, you know, all the conventions of the old
- 38:03Speaker 5: cartoon series, and But to me, this never really goes there.
- 38:07Speaker 8: It actually finds its own level of consciousness.
- 38:10Speaker 5: It actually really does exist in its own little, like
- 38:14Speaker 5: the other type of comedies, it sort of finds its
- 38:17Speaker 5: own place and doesn't really, and that's what I usually
- 38:21Speaker 5: call out most comedies for, especially modern comedies, I bitch
- 38:24Speaker 5: about it a lot, that most of them just have
- 38:27Speaker 5: no originality to it, especially the more dumb ones, when
- 38:31Speaker 5: you get stuff like Epic Movie and Disaster Movie. Oh, God.
- 38:34Speaker 5: There's nothing original to it at all. All they're doing
- 38:37Speaker 5: is mimicking other movies. Right.
- 38:38Speaker 8: And this could have very easily been one of those that.
- 38:41Speaker 5: Like, let's make fun of Scooby-Doo and, you know, our
- 38:44Speaker 5: gang and just do, like, nothing but little, you know,
- 38:47Speaker 5: sight gags that are just completely ripping off that stuff.
- 38:50Speaker 3: Right.
- 38:50Speaker 6: A collection of scenes that sort of tie together and
- 38:53Speaker 6: sort of make a movie, but. really are just hey
- 38:56Speaker 6: let's do a funny bit about this.
- 38:57Speaker 5: Yeah yeah so to me this actually more draws on
- 39:00Speaker 5: the the inspiration of them it draws from sort of
- 39:03Speaker 5: the bigger picture and you know the the nostalgia of
- 39:06Speaker 5: it or what those type of things were going for
- 39:08Speaker 5: you know initially but none of the specifics it actually
- 39:11Speaker 5: takes you know they they write their own material they
- 39:14Speaker 5: actually come up with Their own, you know, it's not
- 39:17Speaker 5: like the mystery itself is all that creative or, you know, confusing.
- 39:22Speaker 6: There's no big, you know, spoiler reveal of, you know, dun-dun-dun,
- 39:25Speaker 6: who was it? Who did it?
- 39:27Speaker 3: Yeah, M.
- 39:28Speaker 6: Night Shyamalan might have fucked it up. if he grabbed it.
- 39:30Speaker 12: Yeah, really.
- 39:31Speaker 7: But.
- 39:33Speaker 6: That's neither here nor there. Yeah, I don't know where
- 39:36Speaker 6: we're going with this.
- 39:38Speaker 5: Well, it never goes down that route. It always sort
- 39:40Speaker 5: of finds its own way to be original and still
- 39:44Speaker 5: play with the conventions of all the stuff that we've
- 39:46Speaker 5: sort of grown up on. I think that's probably the
- 39:49Speaker 5: most impressive thing about it is just the level of
- 39:52Speaker 5: consciousness that they kind of had when piecing this together
- 39:56Speaker 5: and able to create their own characters, their own universes,
- 40:00Speaker 5: And still play on all those, you know, tropes that
- 40:02Speaker 5: we're used to and, you know, what they're kind of
- 40:04Speaker 5: making fun of, but do it in an original way.
- 40:07Speaker 3: Right.
- 40:08Speaker 6: You know, I kind of, I assumed that the, I'm sorry,
- 40:12Speaker 6: the main character.
- 40:13Speaker 8: Jason.
- 40:14Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason.
- 40:15Speaker 6: I expected him to be the one that was going
- 40:18Speaker 6: to decide and come himself to be the person that says, guys,
- 40:23Speaker 6: we need to stop being who we were and actually
- 40:27Speaker 6: evolve into real adults. I thought from the beginning that, oh,
- 40:32Speaker 6: he's going to be the one that has this epiphany,
- 40:36Speaker 6: I suppose. And the two characters that you think are
- 40:39Speaker 6: never going to be you know, the boy genius and.
- 40:42Speaker 8: The strongest boy.
- 40:44Speaker 6: In the world that neither of them have a clue
- 40:48Speaker 6: that you realize, oh, they've actually figured some shit out
- 40:51Speaker 6: already and they've actually taken steps and they're not, again,
- 40:56Speaker 6: they say they're playing a role, whereas he actually really
- 41:00Speaker 6: believes that he's still the seven-year-old super sleuth. So that
- 41:05Speaker 6: actually threw a curveball with me, too. Like you said,
- 41:08Speaker 6: I think where I was going with is the of
- 41:11Speaker 6: is they didn't follow.
- 41:14Speaker 8: Really, any other... Right, where do you think it would go?
- 41:17Speaker 6: Except for maybe Blue Velvet.
- 41:20Speaker 8: Not very directly, though.
- 41:22Speaker 6: Not directly, no.
- 41:23Speaker 8: Just sort of thematically.
- 41:24Speaker 6: Right, right. Not a bad movie to follow.
- 41:28Speaker 2: No, no, definitely not.
- 41:30Speaker 5: And they didn't get quite as crazy as Lynch does,
- 41:33Speaker 5: especially further into his career.
- 41:35Speaker 3: Right.
- 41:35Speaker 8: They play it pretty straight. But I think that's another
- 41:39Speaker 8: thing that helps.
- 41:41Speaker 5: them in general and this movie specifically is they also,
- 41:44Speaker 5: as they were coming up, I mean, again, you see
- 41:47Speaker 5: a lot of stuff, you know, online and it's usually
- 41:49Speaker 5: very camcordery, you know, it's, it's always just, again, some
- 41:53Speaker 5: idiot holding the camcorder and that's, you know, that is
- 41:56Speaker 5: your visual style where, um, Dan Ekman is, is the
- 41:59Speaker 5: director and he has worked with them through, I think
- 42:02Speaker 5: just about all their skits over the years. And I
- 42:04Speaker 5: think he's just visually very talented. I think there's a
- 42:08Speaker 5: lot of shots, in general, just the whole color palette
- 42:12Speaker 5: of choosing the fact that not only, I mean, it's
- 42:14Speaker 5: funny enough that they all kind of have their own
- 42:16Speaker 5: uniform that they wear day in and day out, but
- 42:19Speaker 5: also that each one has their own color and they, they,
- 42:22Speaker 5: you know, their shoes always are that color.
- 42:24Speaker 8: Their bike is that.
- 42:25Speaker 5: Color, like straws, their straws, or when they're pouring their
- 42:28Speaker 5: chocolate milk, they each have the specific color. So the
- 42:31Speaker 5: fact that he worked that in and sort of used
- 42:33Speaker 5: it visually on a lot of really cool shots along
- 42:36Speaker 5: the way. Um, there's trying to think several others. There's
- 42:39Speaker 5: just the one where they're, they're getting ready to take
- 42:41Speaker 5: the murder case. And there's like they're going back and
- 42:45Speaker 5: forth and they're sort of fighting. Oh, we can't do this. And,
- 42:47Speaker 5: you know, Jason's trying to explain to him that, you know,
- 42:49Speaker 5: this is what they've been waiting for and this will
- 42:51Speaker 5: make them legitimate. And the whole time the camera sort
- 42:53Speaker 5: of circling around them and moving. And, and again, it's
- 42:56Speaker 5: just really impressive the way that he shot it, especially for,
- 43:00Speaker 5: you know, guys with very limited budget, very probably limited equipment.
- 43:04Speaker 8: I mean, you know, I trying to think of that.
- 43:07Speaker 8: I think they were shooting like digital.
- 43:08Speaker 5: I think it was like one of the, the red
- 43:10Speaker 5: cameras and, But even then, I mean, that's compared to
- 43:13Speaker 5: studio money. That's, you know, a drop in the bucket.
- 43:15Speaker 5: And I think this looks equally as good as most
- 43:18Speaker 5: studio movies I've ever seen. And, you know, again, visually,
- 43:22Speaker 5: just some of the shots he does that shot of
- 43:24Speaker 5: him on.
- 43:24Speaker 8: The baseball field.
- 43:25Speaker 5: Where they have their big argument, and it pulls back,
- 43:28Speaker 5: that's amazing, like, I was just like, wow, this shot
- 43:32Speaker 5: would not be in a lesser movie, I mean, if
- 43:33Speaker 5: this were just a stupid comedy, you wouldn't get, somebody
- 43:37Speaker 5: wouldn't take the time to, to envision that shot, to
- 43:40Speaker 5: set up that shot, to, you know, to make sure that,
- 43:42Speaker 5: that everything was right, and, and to get it in
- 43:45Speaker 5: the movie, I think that, that, again, is, is something
- 43:47Speaker 5: that is to their benefit, is, is having a talented director,
- 43:50Speaker 5: and I think This is really kind of his first
- 43:53Speaker 5: real movie. He's done short films and he's done their
- 43:55Speaker 5: skits over the years. But I think as a director,
- 43:58Speaker 5: I really kind of want to see where Dan Ekman
- 44:00Speaker 5: goes after this because I think he's got skill.
- 44:03Speaker 6: I liked when you're talking about specific shots, one that,
- 44:07Speaker 6: and you say, well, didn't take from Lynch. Actually, I
- 44:09Speaker 6: think this one seemed a lot like something that Lynch
- 44:12Speaker 6: would do in the beginning when they're setting up and
- 44:14Speaker 6: you've not yet really been introduced to the team yet.
- 44:18Speaker 6: You see their stand out in front of the house.
- 44:21Speaker 6: It's going over and you can tell that this looks
- 44:23Speaker 6: like it's written by a seven-year-old. They're advertisements for who
- 44:28Speaker 6: they are and what they do. And they're going to
- 44:30Speaker 6: bring you into the house and show you even more.
- 44:34Speaker 6: And the bell to call attention up to his room
- 44:40Speaker 6: is tied to a string from the stand. And instead
- 44:44Speaker 6: of just going up to the house or panning up
- 44:46Speaker 6: to the house, they actually shoot up the string to
- 44:49Speaker 6: the bell. And they didn't need to do that. But stylistically,
- 44:54Speaker 6: I was sold. I was like, there's going to be
- 44:57Speaker 6: more than just... A goofy comedy or whatever I was
- 45:01Speaker 6: in for at that moment is like, well, they're going
- 45:02Speaker 6: to take some time with some of these shots.
- 45:04Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, and it sort of ties into the
- 45:06Speaker 5: story that it really kind of what you were saying
- 45:08Speaker 5: with the blue velvet.
- 45:09Speaker 8: It really is like following the string up into the plot.
- 45:12Speaker 8: It's like it really.
- 45:13Speaker 5: Again, if you want to get that artistic about it,
- 45:16Speaker 5: I give this guy credit.
- 45:17Speaker 8: I think it definitely has.
- 45:20Speaker 5: just visuals that, that are way above and beyond what
- 45:23Speaker 5: a normal comedy would get. Even, even most comedies. I mean,
- 45:26Speaker 5: you look at some of the bigger names making stuff,
- 45:28Speaker 5: they're still visually is not where they, they, you know,
- 45:32Speaker 5: bank on it. It's usually pretty static and, and, you know,
- 45:35Speaker 5: pretty standard framing of stuff. And I think he actually,
- 45:38Speaker 5: It's not constant. It's not to the point where you're
- 45:41Speaker 5: distracted by it, but I think there are several moments
- 45:44Speaker 5: in this where he sort of steps back and wants
- 45:47Speaker 5: to put a little more artistry into it and wants
- 45:49Speaker 5: to actually get a creative shot and just sometimes a
- 45:53Speaker 5: beautiful shot that really seems almost out of place in
- 45:56Speaker 5: this silly movie, but again, that shows that there's a
- 45:59Speaker 5: talented director there, and I kind of want to see
- 46:02Speaker 5: what else he ends up doing.
- 46:02Speaker 6: Obviously, it's pulled off much better in a movie that um,
- 46:09Speaker 6: that all of that ties together where you almost have
- 46:12Speaker 6: a theme that you're carrying through that, a series of
- 46:16Speaker 6: shots or something like that. Those obviously, and not just
- 46:19Speaker 6: done for the sake of, wouldn't it be cool if
- 46:22Speaker 6: I did this shot, you know, that, that, that gets
- 46:24Speaker 6: gimmicky and anything like that. And these, these weren't, weren't
- 46:28Speaker 6: doing that, but they, like you said, when they're bringing
- 46:31Speaker 6: you into, into the room with, with the string, for instance, it,
- 46:36Speaker 6: it's more than just hey, wouldn't it be neat? I
- 46:39Speaker 6: think it actually does, okay, now we're ready to see
- 46:43Speaker 6: this as well. Or like on the baseball field, that
- 46:47Speaker 6: shot as well, it gives you more of a sense of,
- 46:51Speaker 6: this is bigger than just this little tiny moment of
- 46:53Speaker 6: we're on a little baseball field. Actually, when they were
- 46:56Speaker 6: running up to shoot that scene, I even thought, why
- 46:59Speaker 6: are they going to this location? And you couldn't get
- 47:02Speaker 6: that shot without them being there. And I think it's that,
- 47:07Speaker 6: I don't know, to me it's that scale of how
- 47:09Speaker 6: you see that shot that's kind of like, their world
- 47:14Speaker 6: is a little bit bigger than what they've seen already.
- 47:17Speaker 5: And I think it's also like that it comes right
- 47:19Speaker 5: at the point where Donald Glover's character is sort of like,
- 47:22Speaker 5: you know, really kind of breaking down and starting to
- 47:25Speaker 5: realize that his world's falling apart. And it pulls back
- 47:28Speaker 5: and it really does, like it just makes him seem
- 47:31Speaker 5: really small. And I think he's starting to realize that, yeah,
- 47:33Speaker 5: that this bigger world that he's suddenly like thrown into.
- 47:37Speaker 5: And it does, again, it's way more artistic than you
- 47:41Speaker 5: would expect in something like that. a silly comedy like this.
- 47:46Speaker 5: And that's not totally just stuff we're reaching for, because
- 47:49Speaker 5: I did hear that they do a lot of behind
- 47:51Speaker 5: the scenes and commentary and stuff, and Donald Glover actually
- 47:54Speaker 5: says when they were talking about that scene, it's like
- 47:57Speaker 5: they also specifically, I mean, it could have been anywhere.
- 48:00Speaker 5: It does definitely play into their little suburb that they're
- 48:04Speaker 5: on a little league field, more or less. But he
- 48:06Speaker 5: said it's also kind of poignant that they're in the
- 48:08Speaker 5: middle of a little league field having this argument and
- 48:11Speaker 5: having this whole breakdown of the relationship because, you know, that's,
- 48:14Speaker 5: that's where kids are sort of forced to grow up.
- 48:17Speaker 5: It's like you're, you're thrown into the middle of, you know, this, this,
- 48:20Speaker 5: you know, all the action and, you know, all the
- 48:22Speaker 5: heartbreak and the, uh, the horrible situations that kids are
- 48:27Speaker 5: sort of put into on, on a little league field.
- 48:29Speaker 5: So it's, it is one of those that, you know,
- 48:32Speaker 5: they did kind of purposefully do a lot of this stuff.
- 48:34Speaker 5: And it is something that they took into account when,
- 48:37Speaker 5: when writing these scenes and when setting up these shots,
- 48:39Speaker 5: that it is, you know, a little more thought put
- 48:41Speaker 5: into this stuff than, than you would expect on, on
- 48:44Speaker 5: something like this. Right.
- 48:45Speaker 6: Then an average comedy.
- 48:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 48:46Speaker 5: Right.
- 48:47Speaker 6: There was something that I thought was extremely unrealistic in
- 48:51Speaker 6: the movie and it, and it threw me for a
- 48:53Speaker 6: loop and actually took me out of the movie for
- 48:55Speaker 6: a moment. The fact that he asks, um, the, I
- 48:59Speaker 6: guess it's the lawyer, the, the, the, the, the man
- 49:02Speaker 6: that the, uh, Kelly is staying with.
- 49:04Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 49:05Speaker 6: Um, He asks him to use his phone charger to
- 49:10Speaker 6: charge up the drug dealer's cell phone. And I thought,
- 49:14Speaker 6: there's no way in hell they're gonna have the same
- 49:16Speaker 6: phone charger because i i live in the same household
- 49:19Speaker 6: and we have you know.
- 49:21Speaker 5: No phones unless you have the exact same model right
- 49:24Speaker 5: the same charger.
- 49:25Speaker 6: Right you could but you could go into the cell
- 49:26Speaker 6: phone store tomorrow and buy the same model phone it's
- 49:29Speaker 6: going to be a different it's going to be a
- 49:30Speaker 6: different charger. So there's no way in hell that that phone.
- 49:33Speaker 5: Well, he was just using that as a ploy anyway.
- 49:36Speaker 5: So with him, I didn't, you know, you would, you
- 49:39Speaker 5: would expect him to say that the, the unbelievable part
- 49:42Speaker 5: is that the guy didn't call him on it.
- 49:43Speaker 8: No, what are you talking about? You can't use my charger.
- 49:45Speaker 8: Your phone's not going to fit that. That was the unbelievable.
- 49:49Speaker 5: Okay.
- 49:49Speaker 6: You're probably right. But that moment kind of took me
- 49:52Speaker 6: out of it there.
- 49:53Speaker 8: So, uh, just moving the plot along.
- 49:57Speaker 6: They needed something.
- 49:58Speaker 5: Got any plans tonight, honey? Going out, maybe a party
- 50:00Speaker 5: with girls there?
- 50:02Speaker 12: Yuck, Mom.
- 50:04Speaker 1: Oh, hey, Dad.
- 50:05Speaker 6: Where you going all dressed up like that? Union meeting
- 50:08Speaker 6: about to strike. Can't believe they sold the lumberyard to
- 50:10Speaker 6: this Holden and Charles.
- 50:12Speaker 5: Knowing full well that's the only thing keeping this town alive.
- 50:14Speaker 6: I'm going to get put out of work by these assholes.
- 50:17Speaker 5: Daryl.
- 50:18Speaker 10: Hey, Dad.
- 50:19Speaker 8: Mom wants me to go to a party with girls there.
- 50:22Speaker 8: Can you say gross?
- 50:24Speaker 6: I can say disappointed.
- 50:27Speaker 5: This is one of those that, yeah, I talked about
- 50:29Speaker 5: the comedy style and I think that is something that's
- 50:31Speaker 5: very specific too. I think it's something that you do
- 50:35Speaker 5: have to kind of tap into because it's one of
- 50:38Speaker 5: the few genres that I think is that specific. I think,
- 50:42Speaker 5: you know, if you're into action movies, you can watch
- 50:45Speaker 5: an action movie and it's pretty much across the board.
- 50:47Speaker 5: It's like, if it's a good action movie, you're going
- 50:49Speaker 5: to like it. Or most people that are into action
- 50:51Speaker 5: movies are going to like that. Or even if it's
- 50:53Speaker 5: a bad action movie, if there's a good scene in there,
- 50:56Speaker 5: you'll get it and you'll be like, oh, that was
- 50:57Speaker 5: pretty awesome. Or same thing with like, you know, horror
- 51:00Speaker 5: is a pretty broad genre and you can be like, oh,
- 51:02Speaker 5: you know, I like, you know, most horror movies and
- 51:04Speaker 5: you can watch it.
- 51:05Speaker 8: But comedy is so.
- 51:06Speaker 5: Specific that, There are such different types of comedy and
- 51:09Speaker 5: such different styles that it really is something that.
- 51:12Speaker 8: You have to click with it.
- 51:15Speaker 5: And I think this is one of those if you
- 51:17Speaker 5: don't get what they do. And it's something you'll know
- 51:21Speaker 5: in the first five, ten minutes, I'd say. By the
- 51:23Speaker 5: time you get into the plot, if you're annoyed with
- 51:27Speaker 5: what it is they're selling, if you have a problem
- 51:30Speaker 5: with them selling, pretending like they're seven years old and living,
- 51:33Speaker 5: you know, denying the fact that, you know, they're, they're grownups.
- 51:38Speaker 5: It is something I can see some people not having
- 51:40Speaker 5: patience for and not being able to, to suspend that,
- 51:43Speaker 5: you know, the disbelief and just go, okay, I'm going
- 51:47Speaker 5: along with their style of comedy. That's something that I
- 51:49Speaker 5: think is very hit and miss more so than other
- 51:51Speaker 5: genres of movie. And it is, yeah, it's something that I,
- 51:55Speaker 5: it is one of those, I guess you'll have to,
- 51:57Speaker 5: you know, take it upon yourself to watch it and
- 51:59Speaker 5: see if, If it is something that you're okay with.
- 52:02Speaker 5: But if so, I think it is one of those
- 52:04Speaker 5: you're going to, if you're okay with it, you're going
- 52:06Speaker 5: to be, you know, just completely taken with it and
- 52:10Speaker 5: be impressed with what it is that they do.
- 52:12Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think, I don't think even if someone's
- 52:15Speaker 6: listened at this point that that I don't think there's
- 52:18Speaker 6: really any way to spoil it other than if we
- 52:20Speaker 6: were just to start listing the jokes.
- 52:22Speaker 8: Well, I can do that too. Here's my favorite.
- 52:25Speaker 6: But, you know, because the plot really, I mean, it's okay.
- 52:32Speaker 6: I mean, it works. I'm not going to knock it
- 52:34Speaker 6: for anything. It pushes, just like any other comedy, it
- 52:37Speaker 6: pushes everything along just fine. Like I said, there is
- 52:40Speaker 6: a development of character, which is what you need in
- 52:44Speaker 6: a story.
- 52:44Speaker 8: I mean, it's that kind of stuff that's more impressive.
- 52:46Speaker 5: I think the plot itself is very basic, but I
- 52:49Speaker 5: think they knew that going in.
- 52:51Speaker 8: It's a simple group of characters.
- 52:53Speaker 5: It's probably ridiculous to overcomplicate this story about basically seven-year-old.
- 52:59Speaker 5: I mean, you could very easily be telling the same
- 53:01Speaker 5: story with them being seven. It's not like any of
- 53:03Speaker 5: this is, other than the character growth. I think that,
- 53:06Speaker 5: you know, the writing on the jokes and the character
- 53:08Speaker 5: growth is the part that is more impressive and above that.
- 53:12Speaker 5: But yeah, the plot itself is not meant to be very.
- 53:15Speaker 6: Right. I guess what I was getting at is a
- 53:18Speaker 6: lot of times you can see in a comedy why
- 53:23Speaker 6: a scene is written. That they write a scene just
- 53:26Speaker 6: for one joke.
- 53:28Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 53:28Speaker 6: Or just for a series of jokes, a setup.
- 53:32Speaker 5: And.
- 53:33Speaker 6: I think all of these scenes, I think there's like, okay,
- 53:36Speaker 6: we have this scene. Here's our basic skeleton of a plot.
- 53:40Speaker 6: Now let's write it. And they put in what they
- 53:42Speaker 6: thought was funny. They put in the funny lines that
- 53:45Speaker 6: these characters would make in real life situations. I mean,
- 53:49Speaker 6: they really, they developed characters. They had an idea of
- 53:51Speaker 6: who these characters were and then let them react to
- 53:54Speaker 6: the situation. And their reactions were funny because they were
- 53:58Speaker 6: such odd characters to begin with. So therefore, it's that
- 54:03Speaker 6: reaction and what they would say, it's funny because of that.
- 54:07Speaker 6: And not because, hey guys, we've got this funny joke.
- 54:11Speaker 6: How are we going to cram this into this movie?
- 54:13Speaker 6: I never felt forced.
- 54:15Speaker 8: These ten bits and string them together into a plot. No, definitely.
- 54:19Speaker 5: And I think it is that. I think because they...
- 54:21Speaker 5: they really developed these characters. And it is amazing that
- 54:24Speaker 5: these weren't, you know, like something, or maybe they'd been
- 54:27Speaker 5: doing them in versions over the years, but the fact
- 54:31Speaker 5: that they feel like they put a lot of time
- 54:33Speaker 5: into figuring out who they were, and more importantly, how
- 54:36Speaker 5: they interact with each other. Just like the little running
- 54:39Speaker 5: gag of when they all decide to blurt out what
- 54:42Speaker 5: they think the answer to this little situation is. There's
- 54:44Speaker 5: a running gag there, and they hit it over and
- 54:47Speaker 5: over again, and it's still funny, but also it's funny
- 54:50Speaker 5: because it's fitting. It really does play to these characters
- 54:53Speaker 5: and the way that these characters are working within this situation.
- 54:56Speaker 5: I think that, again, that is probably the more impressive
- 54:59Speaker 5: part of the writing, is the structure of the whole
- 55:02Speaker 5: thing and how they.
- 55:03Speaker 8: they fit the characters.
- 55:04Speaker 5: Into it and not build it on these, these gimmicky
- 55:07Speaker 5: characters or these gimmicky bits. I think it is more the,
- 55:10Speaker 5: the structure of the, the whole comedy. And I think
- 55:14Speaker 5: that's what they started out with was a grand idea,
- 55:17Speaker 5: not just individual bits that they're working. And again, that,
- 55:21Speaker 5: that really separates it from a lot of comedies out there,
- 55:24Speaker 5: especially in the last 10, 15 years. I think we've
- 55:27Speaker 5: seen a, a downslide on comedies and that's why we
- 55:30Speaker 5: don't do a whole lot of comedies on the show.
- 55:32Speaker 8: Usually it's, it's hard to find good ones.
- 55:34Speaker 5: And why, when I watched this, you know, for the
- 55:36Speaker 5: first time, and I knew of these guys for a
- 55:38Speaker 5: long time, but I just ended up watching it, you know,
- 55:40Speaker 5: a month or so ago and was like, we need
- 55:43Speaker 5: to watch this. Like it's better than all those other comedies.
- 55:47Speaker 5: It really, you know, we, we need to draw attention
- 55:49Speaker 5: to it and make sure, you know, people know that
- 55:51Speaker 5: it's out there and, and see some of the other
- 55:53Speaker 5: stuff that's going on in this, because it's, it's just
- 55:55Speaker 5: way more impressive than most comedies. Sure.
- 55:58Speaker 6: And I, I, you know, you, you'd, mentioned Apatow earlier
- 56:01Speaker 6: I'm not going to say that he's definitely perfect by
- 56:04Speaker 6: any means but he does and I've mentioned it a
- 56:07Speaker 6: couple times those characters are fairly well realized by the
- 56:12Speaker 6: time he writes this and and Yeah, he may be
- 56:15Speaker 6: using the same actors over and over and cranking them out.
- 56:19Speaker 6: But at the same time, and I think, actually, I
- 56:21Speaker 6: believe he's getting better over the years.
- 56:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 56:25Speaker 6: But there's more of a real story. You take out
- 56:29Speaker 6: the jokes, and it's a halfway decent drama most of
- 56:33Speaker 6: the time. And you can really see a person evolving
- 56:37Speaker 6: over the course of the story and you know, scenes
- 56:40Speaker 6: are actually used correctly. Not that I wanted to take
- 56:42Speaker 6: the show in a different direction, but I don't want
- 56:44Speaker 6: to knock. I don't want to want this to come
- 56:46Speaker 6: away that like we're knocking him again. I think he
- 56:49Speaker 6: has evolved and I think he's does is doing some
- 56:52Speaker 6: better writing and better work.
- 56:53Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 56:54Speaker 6: Um, not that any of the older, cause I loved
- 56:56Speaker 6: freaks and geeks and that was, I think one of
- 56:58Speaker 6: the first things he ever did.
- 57:00Speaker 5: Um, I think I was just used anymore as an
- 57:02Speaker 5: example of, of somebody who sort of created like their
- 57:05Speaker 5: own little comedy universe. And, and, He's directing some of them.
- 57:09Speaker 5: He's producing some of them. But all of them sort
- 57:11Speaker 5: of seem like they're the same sense of humor and
- 57:13Speaker 5: the same characters. Even if it's actors playing different characters,
- 57:18Speaker 5: they all could sort of exist in the same universe.
- 57:20Speaker 5: And I think this is sort of like the first
- 57:23Speaker 5: stage in that because I think they could go on
- 57:25Speaker 5: and do other comedies and completely different characters, but they've
- 57:29Speaker 5: sort of nailed their sense of humor.
- 57:31Speaker 6: You'd know it was one of their films. Yeah, you could.
- 57:34Speaker 8: Go into it.
- 57:35Speaker 5: Just having seen this movie and nothing else they've ever done,
- 57:37Speaker 5: and realize, oh yeah, it's these guys. And once again,
- 57:40Speaker 5: if you've got their comedy in this movie, you'd probably
- 57:43Speaker 5: be fine to watch anything they do from here on out.
- 57:45Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah.
- 57:47Speaker 5: I think the only thing that probably hurt this movie,
- 57:50Speaker 5: and they've gotten pretty good response, they've gotten a lot
- 57:52Speaker 5: of response from people online who've known who they are
- 57:56Speaker 5: from their videos over the years, and they've gotten a
- 57:58Speaker 5: pretty good response just from like, independent film kind of,
- 58:01Speaker 5: you know, there there's, you know, again, the internet for
- 58:04Speaker 5: all its downfalls, there's, there's also some, some camaraderie out
- 58:08Speaker 5: there and some people that do, you know, use it
- 58:10Speaker 5: to spread the word about stuff and kind of get
- 58:13Speaker 5: behind people that deserve it. So they've definitely got that.
- 58:16Speaker 5: But if there's anything I was going to say that
- 58:17Speaker 5: almost was sort of, um, I don't know, sort of
- 58:20Speaker 5: has hurt them in the long run.
- 58:22Speaker 8: I think the title.
- 58:23Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 58:24Speaker 4: Very much.
- 58:25Speaker 5: It misleads you or, or is also kind of like,
- 58:30Speaker 5: something that you're going to get confused.
- 58:32Speaker 6: I got confused.
- 58:33Speaker 5: Yeah, it is one of those that it could very
- 58:35Speaker 5: easily be confused with Mystery Men.
- 58:38Speaker 6: Ben Stiller.
- 58:40Speaker 5: And then you also get into, or even the sound
- 58:42Speaker 5: of it, it doesn't sound like they're doing the Scooby-Doo gang.
- 58:47Speaker 5: Which even then, if you found something that sounded more
- 58:49Speaker 5: like that, it would be misleading, but it would at
- 58:52Speaker 5: least lead you sort of down the right road. Where this,
- 58:55Speaker 5: to me, almost feels like, and there's already, we discussed
- 58:58Speaker 5: this on the.
- 58:59Speaker 8: The kick-ass episode.
- 59:01Speaker 5: That one in itself sort of lost out, I think,
- 59:04Speaker 5: in popularity because people really did group it in with
- 59:08Speaker 5: all those which Mystery man is one of those that
- 59:10Speaker 5: all of those that sort of you know playing on
- 59:12Speaker 5: the hey let's do a funny comedy about people trying
- 59:15Speaker 5: to be superheroes right and i think you know that
- 59:17Speaker 5: that hurt all of those because kick-ass had a little
- 59:20Speaker 5: more to say than that and we're sort of going
- 59:21Speaker 5: in a different direction but it got grouped in with
- 59:25Speaker 5: all of the other, I mean, there was, you know,
- 59:26Speaker 5: 10 different ones that have come out in the last,
- 59:28Speaker 5: you know, 10 years. So it's, it's, you know, very
- 59:31Speaker 5: easily that movie got lost in with those.
- 59:33Speaker 8: I think this just by the confusion of.
- 59:36Speaker 5: The title, I think has gotten, has gotten again, probably
- 59:40Speaker 5: just to general people, to people that at one time
- 59:43Speaker 5: would have been wandering around a blockbuster and wouldn't have
- 59:46Speaker 5: known to pick it up. Now, I guess they're red
- 59:48Speaker 5: boxing or Netflix, you know, And it's even easier to
- 59:51Speaker 5: get overlooked there because you don't even have a box
- 59:54Speaker 5: to pick.
- 59:55Speaker 6: Up and look at at this point. Especially with all
- 59:57Speaker 6: the crappy remakes that companies try to churn out when
- 1:00:01Speaker 6: another movie's in the theater. Because they know that somebody's
- 1:00:03Speaker 6: going to be going to Redbox on Friday night or
- 1:00:06Speaker 6: something like that. And the one they want's not there,
- 1:00:09Speaker 6: but they're going to see 18 of the different other...
- 1:00:12Speaker 6: You know, 2012s that they made over, you know, knockoff
- 1:00:16Speaker 6: versions of it. I don't know why you'd want to
- 1:00:18Speaker 6: knock off because the other one was so bad. Why
- 1:00:20Speaker 6: would you knock off? But there are a lot of.
- 1:00:24Speaker 6: Of those cheap made versions that sound like it, you know,
- 1:00:28Speaker 6: paranormal entity, paranormal, like, you know, what you're really.
- 1:00:32Speaker 8: I saw one at Redbox, actually, that's a knockoff of Twilight.
- 1:00:37Speaker 6: Right.
- 1:00:37Speaker 8: And it looks like a knockoff. And I was like,
- 1:00:39Speaker 8: that's what they're banking on.
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: Oh, sure.
- 1:00:41Speaker 8: You know, the good one's gone. If you want to
- 1:00:43Speaker 8: call that the good one.
- 1:00:44Speaker 10: Right, right.
- 1:00:45Speaker 5: The one I want is gone, if that's what you're
- 1:00:47Speaker 5: looking for. And I'm, oh, well, let's try this.
- 1:00:49Speaker 8: It's only a buck.
- 1:00:50Speaker 6: Well, I'll admit, I can remember movies. I can remember
- 1:00:53Speaker 6: movies by what the cover art looks like.
- 1:00:57Speaker 8: Yeah, me too.
- 1:00:57Speaker 6: And my wife always says, I can read ten times
- 1:01:00Speaker 6: faster than you. How can you go so quickly at
- 1:01:02Speaker 6: the movie store? I know it by the box. I
- 1:01:05Speaker 6: don't have to read the title.
- 1:01:06Speaker 5: It's like kids with their cards. Again, nostalgia-wise, need it,
- 1:01:09Speaker 5: got it, need it, got it. It's like you can
- 1:01:11Speaker 5: flip through that entire aisle and be like, there's five
- 1:01:14Speaker 5: of those I haven't seen.
- 1:01:15Speaker 8: That's how bad. That's the level of geekdom. Exactly.
- 1:01:18Speaker 6: And there's a lot of movies that I don't know
- 1:01:21Speaker 6: the title of, but I know the movie based on
- 1:01:25Speaker 6: how the cover art looks. That's just... But for me,
- 1:01:29Speaker 6: the parallel would be I go to the store and
- 1:01:31Speaker 6: I'm going to go buy laundry detergent. I can't tell
- 1:01:35Speaker 6: you what laundry detergent we use. And there's a kind
- 1:01:37Speaker 6: that my wife, she swears by. And I'm the one
- 1:01:40Speaker 6: that does the laundry. But I could not tell you
- 1:01:42Speaker 6: what company. What smell, what scent, what color. I just
- 1:01:46Speaker 6: don't have the capacity to remember that or it's not
- 1:01:49Speaker 6: important to me.
- 1:01:50Speaker 8: Because you're storing all the movies.
- 1:01:51Speaker 6: Because I'm storing all the movies.
- 1:01:53Speaker 8: Exactly.
- 1:01:54Speaker 6: But, you know, my father, I'll tell him the name
- 1:01:56Speaker 6: of a great movie. You need to go check this out. And, obviously,
- 1:02:00Speaker 6: it's not there. And he gets, you know, Paranormal Entity
- 1:02:03Speaker 6: instead of Paranormal. You know, not that he would get that.
- 1:02:06Speaker 6: But that's along the lines. And that's what they're hoping for.
- 1:02:09Speaker 6: They just want those mistaken rents. You know, or the
- 1:02:12Speaker 6: people are like, okay, I saw this. I liked it.
- 1:02:13Speaker 6: This is going to be like it. And the cover
- 1:02:17Speaker 6: art to this and the name has that feel of, oh,
- 1:02:20Speaker 6: this is a ripoff of another one.
- 1:02:21Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, definitely the title. The cover art, again,
- 1:02:25Speaker 5: it's just sort of, it's not descriptive enough to pull
- 1:02:28Speaker 5: you in as to what it actually is.
- 1:02:30Speaker 8: And it would be hard to do anyway.
- 1:02:31Speaker 5: This is almost a tough sell because it exists in
- 1:02:35Speaker 5: its own little world. It really, you do have to
- 1:02:37Speaker 5: buy into them living in this reality that they're seven
- 1:02:41Speaker 5: years old. Right. It is a hard thing to sell.
- 1:02:44Speaker 5: It's even harder to slap on the front of a
- 1:02:47Speaker 5: DVD box. So I give them credit that that's a
- 1:02:51Speaker 5: hard thing to do.
- 1:02:51Speaker 13: It is.
- 1:02:52Speaker 5: But I think, yeah, if there's anything like trying to
- 1:02:55Speaker 5: tell people about this movie, they immediately either don't know
- 1:02:58Speaker 5: what you're talking about or mistakenly think that it's something else.
- 1:03:00Speaker 5: I think that, which actually it wasn't even up until
- 1:03:03Speaker 5: like a couple of weeks before shooting, it wasn't even
- 1:03:06Speaker 5: Mystery Team. They were, when they wrote it and all
- 1:03:09Speaker 5: through the pre-production, it was Mystery Gang and And I
- 1:03:12Speaker 5: think there they said they actually did, potentially somebody wrote
- 1:03:15Speaker 5: them and was like, at some point in one of
- 1:03:18Speaker 5: these Scooby-Doo things, they refer to themselves as the mystery gang.
- 1:03:21Speaker 5: If you don't want to get in some sort of
- 1:03:23Speaker 5: legal trouble or some sort of cease and desist letter
- 1:03:27Speaker 5: or somewhere down the line that's going to come back
- 1:03:29Speaker 5: and haunt you, you probably should change the title. I
- 1:03:32Speaker 5: think they should have just found an entirely different title,
- 1:03:35Speaker 5: something that's not, even if it's something ridiculous, something that
- 1:03:38Speaker 5: would stick out more and would actually draw you more
- 1:03:41Speaker 5: to the originality of this movie. They really should have
- 1:03:44Speaker 5: found something more original title-wise But again, I mean, it
- 1:03:48Speaker 5: fits once you're into the movie.
- 1:03:50Speaker 8: It makes sense once you're into the movie.
- 1:03:51Speaker 5: But just as a consumer or dealing with people who
- 1:03:55Speaker 5: don't know that much about movies or don't pay that
- 1:03:57Speaker 5: much attention to new stuff coming out or online comedy
- 1:04:01Speaker 5: or all these other little niches that know who they
- 1:04:03Speaker 5: are and would understand, I think that would be a
- 1:04:05Speaker 5: harder thing. But again, they found pretty good success through
- 1:04:09Speaker 5: the little network of geeks that kind of appreciate this
- 1:04:12Speaker 5: kind of stuff and want to.
- 1:04:14Speaker 8: spread the word about it.
- 1:04:15Speaker 5: So I think, you know, they're still doing okay, but
- 1:04:17Speaker 5: I think that's something that I noticed early on. I
- 1:04:20Speaker 5: was like, that could come back to bite you in
- 1:04:22Speaker 5: the ass, that you could be mistaken for a slew
- 1:04:25Speaker 5: of other movies that are way worse and less impressive
- 1:04:29Speaker 5: than what they're trying to do here.
- 1:04:30Speaker 6: There's parts of Mystery Men that I still, and there
- 1:04:33Speaker 6: are so many people that knock that movie out. And
- 1:04:36Speaker 6: there's some parts that I still find very, very funny.
- 1:04:39Speaker 8: There are moments.
- 1:04:40Speaker 5: Again, it's like a lot of the other comedies we've mentioned.
- 1:04:43Speaker 5: It's far from perfect, but it's got moments that are
- 1:04:45Speaker 5: actually funny. And it is one that was probably more
- 1:04:48Speaker 5: pieced together. It is one of those that Ben Stiller
- 1:04:50Speaker 5: was thinking, hey, wouldn't it be funny if there was
- 1:04:51Speaker 5: a guy who was a superhero that did this? Now,
- 1:04:53Speaker 5: how do I build a movie around that? That's, I think,
- 1:04:57Speaker 5: the difference between what they were doing versus what a
- 1:04:59Speaker 5: lot of comedies.
- 1:05:00Speaker 8: Try to do, especially.
- 1:05:02Speaker 5: since everything is so skit oriented, you know, which is
- 1:05:04Speaker 5: so funny that that's what they were built on is
- 1:05:06Speaker 5: comedy skits and five minute YouTube videos. And that's not
- 1:05:10Speaker 5: what they did here. They did something original and, you know,
- 1:05:14Speaker 5: with a 90 minute timeframe in mind.
- 1:05:17Speaker 8: From the get go.
- 1:05:17Speaker 5: And it, I think it makes a difference. I think
- 1:05:19Speaker 5: it is something that sets them apart from most other companies.
- 1:05:23Speaker 6: I think I, and you met, you mentioned, um, I
- 1:05:26Speaker 6: think this is a little bit off. So you mentioned
- 1:05:28Speaker 6: kick ass as well. I, I think it suffered from
- 1:05:32Speaker 6: title as well.
- 1:05:34Speaker 8: Definitely. And just marketing in general. They really marketed that thing.
- 1:05:38Speaker 6: And I think the problem was, especially in the marketing,
- 1:05:44Speaker 6: just in the construction of the film, it almost didn't
- 1:05:48Speaker 6: know what it was. Because it was kind of a comedy.
- 1:05:52Speaker 6: It was kind of a coming of age. It was
- 1:05:53Speaker 6: kind of a... a slasher. It was kind of, and
- 1:05:56Speaker 6: you could almost see shifts in the movie. Like all
- 1:05:59Speaker 6: of a sudden, wait, how did we go from a
- 1:06:01Speaker 6: comic book movie to something that, you know, you're seeing
- 1:06:05Speaker 6: a John Woo film where everybody's just to shoot them up.
- 1:06:07Speaker 6: And so stylistically it was change, change, change, change. And,
- 1:06:12Speaker 6: I can get past that. But there's a lot of
- 1:06:14Speaker 6: people that can't. They don't know how to. Dude, you
- 1:06:16Speaker 6: should see this. What kind of movie is it?
- 1:06:18Speaker 5: No.
- 1:06:19Speaker 6: And you're going to. They may be going in expecting
- 1:06:21Speaker 6: one thing and get something totally different. And so that was.
- 1:06:25Speaker 6: They set them. They set themselves up for this. I
- 1:06:28Speaker 6: loved it. I mean, I walked out of there thinking
- 1:06:30Speaker 6: that was a really good movie. I was thoroughly entertained.
- 1:06:33Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:06:34Speaker 6: But there were a lot of people that I talked
- 1:06:36Speaker 6: to that they had no idea how to pen it down.
- 1:06:39Speaker 5: I think that's what it is. I think within the
- 1:06:40Speaker 5: context of the movie, it all kind of works. I
- 1:06:42Speaker 5: think they knew what they were doing and kind of
- 1:06:45Speaker 5: knew a way to make it flow from one to
- 1:06:47Speaker 5: the other. They played a lot of different cards in
- 1:06:49Speaker 5: that movie.
- 1:06:49Speaker 8: So it is something.
- 1:06:51Speaker 5: Even to the point where they're almost canceling themselves out
- 1:06:53Speaker 5: somewhere down the line.
- 1:06:54Speaker 8: And that's up for argument with a lot of people.
- 1:06:56Speaker 6: That's not what this episode's about.
- 1:06:58Speaker 10: No.
- 1:06:58Speaker 5: But I think it is one of those things that, yeah,
- 1:07:01Speaker 5: within the context of the movie, it does sort of
- 1:07:03Speaker 5: work while you're watching it. But it's dealing with the marketing.
- 1:07:07Speaker 5: It's something that's really hard to market. Something that doesn't
- 1:07:09Speaker 5: fit into one little niche. Something that... that does jump
- 1:07:13Speaker 5: back and forth or something that, that does things kind
- 1:07:16Speaker 5: of unconventionally like this movie today does. I mean, it's,
- 1:07:19Speaker 5: it's very unconventional in the way that it approaches the
- 1:07:22Speaker 5: characters and even the situation itself.
- 1:07:25Speaker 8: It's, it's different.
- 1:07:26Speaker 5: So much like, you know, kick ass in a lot
- 1:07:29Speaker 5: of movies we've seen that were mismarketed. I think granted
- 1:07:32Speaker 5: this one they were doing on their own. They don't
- 1:07:34Speaker 5: have a marketing machine. They don't have millions of dollars
- 1:07:36Speaker 5: thrown at it. So I won't, you know, I won't
- 1:07:39Speaker 5: fault them for any of that that I will with
- 1:07:41Speaker 5: some of the bigger projects out there. But I just
- 1:07:44Speaker 5: want to point out, yeah, that's something that I think
- 1:07:47Speaker 5: could have hurt them and was just something I saw
- 1:07:49Speaker 5: going in earlier because I think I'd heard the title
- 1:07:53Speaker 5: several times and heard about the movie and wanted to
- 1:07:56Speaker 5: go find the movie I was hearing the description of
- 1:07:58Speaker 5: or hearing the director talk about and then got there
- 1:08:00Speaker 5: and went, wait, was that the title of the movie?
- 1:08:02Speaker 5: So it is something that I think could, you know,
- 1:08:05Speaker 5: was kind of to their detriment.
- 1:08:07Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a throwaway enough of a title.
- 1:08:09Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:08:10Speaker 6: There's no tangible word that if you hit it into
- 1:08:14Speaker 6: a Google search, you're going to bring up the right
- 1:08:16Speaker 6: movie every single time.
- 1:08:17Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:08:18Speaker 6: So, yeah.
- 1:08:19Speaker 8: It's definitely worth seeking out.
- 1:08:22Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I definitely, there's going to be several people,
- 1:08:24Speaker 6: there's going to be a lot of people that I
- 1:08:25Speaker 6: won't recommend it to just because I don't think they're
- 1:08:27Speaker 6: going to get it.
- 1:08:28Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:08:28Speaker 6: But the people that are going to get it are
- 1:08:31Speaker 6: going to have the same impression I am. That, that,
- 1:08:34Speaker 6: there's something else it's not just your average comedy there's
- 1:08:38Speaker 6: there is it they did a fantastic well i'm not
- 1:08:40Speaker 6: going to say fantastic they did a really good job.
- 1:08:43Speaker 5: That's it yeah i mean it's it's grazing fantastic i
- 1:08:46Speaker 5: mean there's a lot of impressive stuff going on here
- 1:08:48Speaker 5: and and once again you have to get it or
- 1:08:51Speaker 5: or not but i think for those that do it
- 1:08:53Speaker 5: it really is you know more impressive than most comedies
- 1:08:56Speaker 5: which is why and this is something i don't normally
- 1:08:59Speaker 5: do with movies but i'm actually going to tell you
- 1:09:01Speaker 5: where to get it it is one of those that
- 1:09:03Speaker 5: it's an independent movie and these guys were doing it
- 1:09:06Speaker 5: out of their pocket and really kind of do need
- 1:09:08Speaker 5: support so i you know under those circumstances i'll you
- 1:09:11Speaker 5: know i don't care i'll plug it so it's uh
- 1:09:13Speaker 5: yeah it's Derek comedy.com. And that will take you to
- 1:09:17Speaker 5: all of their stuff, but you can hit on like the,
- 1:09:19Speaker 5: you know, the merchandise button there and it'll take you
- 1:09:21Speaker 5: to the site where you can get it. I think
- 1:09:23Speaker 5: you can even get signed copies from, I don't know
- 1:09:26Speaker 5: if it's all of them or just, you know, certain members,
- 1:09:28Speaker 5: but either way it's, yeah, it's, it's, you know, if
- 1:09:31Speaker 5: something you've rented and want to get, uh, I'd say
- 1:09:34Speaker 5: go through them and make sure that, you know, all
- 1:09:35Speaker 5: the money goes to them because again, they, they, they
- 1:09:39Speaker 5: put it, you know, they did all this, themselves from
- 1:09:42Speaker 5: day one. And I think that's impressive, especially for as
- 1:09:44Speaker 5: good as it looks. I mean, you would not know
- 1:09:46Speaker 5: that to look at it. It's, it's impressively just, you know,
- 1:09:49Speaker 5: visual wise, it doesn't play like a cheap independent movie.
- 1:09:52Speaker 8: It's actually well put together.
- 1:09:54Speaker 6: Well, I think that that's one. I think they know,
- 1:09:57Speaker 6: I think they know how to use a camera, whoever,
- 1:09:59Speaker 6: you know, they, They know how to use a camera.
- 1:10:02Speaker 6: They knew what they were going for. They didn't write
- 1:10:04Speaker 6: above their budget.
- 1:10:05Speaker 5: Which is a key thing to learn when doing an
- 1:10:09Speaker 5: independent film and small budget movies.
- 1:10:12Speaker 6: But you still got plenty. They still were able to
- 1:10:15Speaker 6: use what they had. And so therefore, you want to
- 1:10:18Speaker 6: see those kind of people like, okay, we saw what
- 1:10:21Speaker 6: you did with that. What can you do with a
- 1:10:23Speaker 6: little more? I like that. Don't write above. They may
- 1:10:28Speaker 6: have some kind of epic tale to tell that they're
- 1:10:32Speaker 6: going to need a big budget for. Maybe they don't.
- 1:10:35Speaker 8: Maybe they do.
- 1:10:35Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe they don't. But they used what they could.
- 1:10:40Speaker 6: And it doesn't suffer from... Um, like you said, a
- 1:10:44Speaker 6: look of low budget at all. I don't know what
- 1:10:46Speaker 6: the budget was, but I'm sure it wasn't.
- 1:10:48Speaker 8: It was pretty minimal.
- 1:10:49Speaker 5: I mean, considering what, what they had to do, it's
- 1:10:51Speaker 5: impressive that it, again, it never really looks shoddy. It's always, yeah,
- 1:10:56Speaker 5: I think is as impressive as most studio movies. So
- 1:11:00Speaker 5: that's impressive in its own right, right there.
- 1:11:02Speaker 4: Right.
- 1:11:03Speaker 5: But, I don't know, I'd say to wrap it up,
- 1:11:07Speaker 5: I think this is something that, the more I thought
- 1:11:10Speaker 5: about it as we finished the movie and sat down,
- 1:11:13Speaker 5: sort of ties to possibly us. Because these are, you know,
- 1:11:19Speaker 5: kids that are having trouble dealing with growing up and
- 1:11:22Speaker 5: taking on adult responsibilities and having a real life.
- 1:11:25Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:11:26Speaker 5: Before we sat down to watch the movie, would you
- 1:11:29Speaker 5: like to discuss what we did? The hour-long discussion we
- 1:11:34Speaker 5: had about nostalgia.
- 1:11:37Speaker 8: And toys and movies. A good 45 minutes was based on.
- 1:11:46Speaker 6: Uh, rehashing of every star Wars movie, discussing moments, elements,
- 1:11:50Speaker 6: things that the two of us had never really talked about, I.
- 1:11:53Speaker 5: Guess, together about pot points and errors along the way.
- 1:11:57Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:11:58Speaker 6: Um, And, you know, I showed my son had a four.
- 1:12:02Speaker 6: He had to stay home this week.
- 1:12:05Speaker 8: He was stuck there with you.
- 1:12:06Speaker 6: He was stuck there with me. And what did we do?
- 1:12:08Speaker 6: We watched Star Wars. All of them. And I tried
- 1:12:13Speaker 6: not to feed him anything. And I edited out a
- 1:12:15Speaker 6: few things like burning mannequins that no one wants to see.
- 1:12:18Speaker 6: And we went on for quite a long time discussing,
- 1:12:22Speaker 6: you know, his impressions, our impressions of problems we had, um,
- 1:12:27Speaker 6: what would, you know, obviously like any geek does, what
- 1:12:30Speaker 6: would have made it better. But more importantly, we, we
- 1:12:33Speaker 6: discussed toys and how you play with them and how
- 1:12:37Speaker 6: you play with them at a child as a child
- 1:12:39Speaker 6: and how you cherish certain things. And, um, yeah, it definitely,
- 1:12:45Speaker 6: I think it does tie in with this film of
- 1:12:48Speaker 6: there's part of me that will not ever let that
- 1:12:51Speaker 6: kind of stuff go.
- 1:12:51Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 1:12:52Speaker 6: I can't do it. Um, I would cut people out
- 1:12:56Speaker 6: of my life before I would cut certain broken toys
- 1:13:01Speaker 6: out of my life that they're going to exist. I'm
- 1:13:05Speaker 6: always going to need a basement or a large closet
- 1:13:07Speaker 6: to store them. And it's not like some toy geeks
- 1:13:11Speaker 6: that have everything, but, um.
- 1:13:14Speaker 8: You know, it's, it's the nostalgic ones.
- 1:13:16Speaker 5: I mean, it really is the ones that you had
- 1:13:17Speaker 5: feelings for as a kid that you were like tied
- 1:13:20Speaker 5: to as a kid that, It kind of played an
- 1:13:22Speaker 5: important part in your life. Right.
- 1:13:24Speaker 6: Any kid that grew up eating the same breakfast cereal
- 1:13:29Speaker 6: and watching the same cartoons as me, especially a boy
- 1:13:32Speaker 6: that likes Star Wars, knows what just the sight of
- 1:13:37Speaker 6: an AT-AT or the AT-AT toy does to you. It
- 1:13:41Speaker 6: was the holy grail of toys to me. We were
- 1:13:46Speaker 6: discussing it. It's such a poor design from a militaristic standpoint.
- 1:13:51Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:13:52Speaker 8: But God damn, it's awesome.
- 1:13:53Speaker 6: That's not the point.
- 1:13:54Speaker 4: Exactly.
- 1:13:57Speaker 6: And it's just not wanting to push beyond that. I
- 1:14:00Speaker 6: guess to tie it into the film is you don't care.
- 1:14:05Speaker 6: Forget about reality. I'm going to stick with this thing
- 1:14:07Speaker 6: that's working because it makes me happy.
- 1:14:10Speaker 5: And that's kind of yeah it was funny because i
- 1:14:12Speaker 5: didn't think about it while we were sitting there we
- 1:14:13Speaker 5: just sat there forever going okay we're gonna have to
- 1:14:15Speaker 5: start the movie eventually we need to stop talking about
- 1:14:17Speaker 5: star wars and transformers and all these geeky things we
- 1:14:20Speaker 5: were talking about right and then i started the movie
- 1:14:23Speaker 5: and i'm midway into it and i'm watching this and
- 1:14:25Speaker 5: i'm just like it really i mean it does tie
- 1:14:27Speaker 5: into we're making fun of these kids you know they
- 1:14:30Speaker 5: won't grow up they act like they're seven years old
- 1:14:31Speaker 5: after we had an hour-long discussion about ad ads and
- 1:14:35Speaker 5: In Optimus Prime. And I was just like, well, okay,
- 1:14:38Speaker 5: how much can we make fun of him? How much
- 1:14:40Speaker 5: can we laugh at these characters? Because there's part of
- 1:14:43Speaker 5: me that's always going to be that seven-year-old little kid.
- 1:14:45Speaker 5: And he's delusionally fooling himself. And, you know, you're also
- 1:14:49Speaker 5: dealing with the sad characters that don't want to grow up.
- 1:14:52Speaker 5: Part of them, that is me, too. It's like, there's
- 1:14:55Speaker 5: part of me that is Geordi. That is sometimes like, fuck,
- 1:15:00Speaker 5: how the hell did I get here? I was just
- 1:15:02Speaker 5: that 15-year-old kid. And, you know, I took this.
- 1:15:04Speaker 8: Job and now... shit, I'm an old man and I'm
- 1:15:07Speaker 8: still doing the same thing I was doing.
- 1:15:09Speaker 6: And I think we all keep this job until I
- 1:15:11Speaker 6: kill myself. I'm living the dream.
- 1:15:15Speaker 5: And I think we all deal with that. I think
- 1:15:16Speaker 5: there is, again, there's an element of truth to what's
- 1:15:19Speaker 5: going on here. And, and, They're playing it to the extreme.
- 1:15:22Speaker 5: They're playing it for a joke, but at the same time,
- 1:15:26Speaker 5: at the heart of this, there really is that element
- 1:15:29Speaker 5: of childhood that none of us want to get rid
- 1:15:32Speaker 5: of and none of us want to let go of
- 1:15:34Speaker 5: and grow up and have adult lives. We're kind of
- 1:15:37Speaker 5: forced to by time more than anything.
- 1:15:41Speaker 8: I don't know. I just thought it was funny that
- 1:15:43Speaker 8: it came about after we sat there.
- 1:15:45Speaker 2: Of course.
- 1:15:46Speaker 6: There are parts of my.
- 1:15:49Speaker 6: That if you actually ripped them totally from my body,
- 1:15:52Speaker 6: I would probably have to hospitalize myself. I don't know
- 1:15:57Speaker 6: how I would cope day in and day out with
- 1:16:00Speaker 6: a lot of things. I have to... I'm not talking
- 1:16:02Speaker 6: about items or getting out toys. I don't do that.
- 1:16:06Speaker 6: But it's... I know they're there, almost like a security blanket.
- 1:16:11Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:16:12Speaker 6: Even just the memories. I know those memories are there,
- 1:16:15Speaker 6: and damn it, you're not going to take those from
- 1:16:17Speaker 6: me because I really will. You may as well give
- 1:16:19Speaker 6: me a lobotomy.
- 1:16:21Speaker 8: And I think that's kind of what tied into this.
- 1:16:24Speaker 5: I thought that was kind of cool, that that's sort
- 1:16:25Speaker 5: of what Jason's going through in all of them, but
- 1:16:28Speaker 5: more him because he doesn't want to go, period. Right. And, yeah,
- 1:16:32Speaker 5: it was just sort of funny that it really does
- 1:16:34Speaker 5: sort of tie into real life in a scary way sometimes.
- 1:16:38Speaker 6: As I reveal more of myself.
- 1:16:42Speaker 8: Oh, that's what we do.
- 1:16:43Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
- 1:16:44Speaker 8: Peel back the wounds.
- 1:16:46Speaker 2: They're there.
- 1:16:47Speaker 5: Look at our damaged childhoods. So, yeah, I figure that's
- 1:16:53Speaker 5: a good way to round it out is... Just how
- 1:16:55Speaker 5: it ties to us personally.
- 1:16:56Speaker 6: Showing me how lame I really am? Is that what
- 1:16:59Speaker 6: you're trying to tell me?
- 1:17:00Speaker 8: I was the Geordie in that scenario.
- 1:17:05Speaker 4: Oh, Lord.
- 1:17:05Speaker 5: So, yep, with that, we will wrap up Mystery Team
- 1:17:09Speaker 5: and take a break and be back with the rest
- 1:17:10Speaker 5: of the show.
- 1:17:16Speaker 12: I'm the last of a dying breed, meaning that I'm
- 1:17:18Speaker 12: not afraid to try a new thing Can't see me,
- 1:17:21Speaker 12: best to get yourself some Vizine Toe tagger, motherfucker, no jokes,
- 1:17:24Speaker 12: why these other niggas walker walker Other rappers try and
- 1:17:27Speaker 12: go and get over You want that hood shit, best
- 1:17:29Speaker 12: to go and call Hover I was a good kid,
- 1:17:32Speaker 12: backpack on my shoulder 98 test score in my Thundercat
- 1:17:35Speaker 12: folder My cousin was older, my mama used to wake
- 1:17:38Speaker 12: up Drive me to his school, cause his school was
- 1:17:39Speaker 12: much safer But I slipped up and accidentally told the
- 1:17:42Speaker 12: teacher Now I'm going to a school where I get
- 1:17:44Speaker 12: beat up Because I ain't get down with them other kids.
- 1:17:47Speaker 12: Probably because I talk to white and I got a
- 1:17:49Speaker 12: dad who's there. Mama could have taken so to place
- 1:17:51Speaker 12: and got us out of there. Guest room, now the
- 1:17:53Speaker 12: six of us splitting one with a restroom. Now I'm
- 1:17:55Speaker 12: going to the school called Rockbridge. School up the neighborhood,
- 1:17:58Speaker 12: we trying to buy a house in. There's not a
- 1:18:00Speaker 12: lot of black kids, so I stick out like a
- 1:18:02Speaker 12: sore thumb with some bad acne. But really, what I
- 1:18:05Speaker 12: want to know is why I never fit in right.
- 1:18:07Speaker 12: Like a fat dude getting on a packed flight. Even
- 1:18:10Speaker 12: when I make friends in the hallways. I'm wishing I
- 1:18:13Speaker 12: was someone else always, but I'm happy that that.
- 1:18:15Speaker 4: Shit happened to me.
- 1:18:16Speaker 9: Cause it taught me most important is to do me.
- 1:18:19Speaker 9: Cause everybody hates you till they love you. Facebook niggas,
- 1:18:21Speaker 9: same niggas that would shove you. Cause nobody was jockeying
- 1:18:25Speaker 9: my style. Cause I had a high voice, they called me.
- 1:18:27Speaker 8: Faggot, ate my.
- 1:18:29Speaker 4: Let's all go to the lobby. Let's all go to
- 1:18:33Speaker 4: the lobby. Let's all go to the lobby to get
- 1:18:38Speaker 4: ourselves a treat.
- 1:18:40Speaker 8: The children had a party. Alan and Anya and Terry came.
- 1:18:44Speaker 4: They were invited.
- 1:18:46Speaker 8: The children were having such fun. That is until Abigail
- 1:18:50Speaker 8: and Orville and Smedley dropped in. They weren't invited. They
- 1:18:55Speaker 8: were dead. It's too bad nobody ever told the children.
- 1:19:00Speaker 12: Children shouldn't play with dead things.
- 1:19:14Speaker 5: So when we originally had our discussion about Mystery Team,
- 1:19:16Speaker 5: I had no idea this next segment was coming up. Actually,
- 1:19:20Speaker 5: within a few minutes of us finishing, I logged on
- 1:19:23Speaker 5: and had a message from Dan Ekman, director of Mystery Team.
- 1:19:27Speaker 5: So yeah, he was actually up for doing an interview,
- 1:19:29Speaker 5: which was awesome on his part, and we're glad to
- 1:19:32Speaker 5: get a chance to talk with him. So it's time
- 1:19:34Speaker 5: for Focus on Dan Ekman. Well, I'm kind of fascinated
- 1:19:42Speaker 5: with where, you know, we use the term movie geek,
- 1:19:46Speaker 5: you know, lovingly on our show. So I'm always kind
- 1:19:48Speaker 5: of fascinated where people sort of get into that, what
- 1:19:51Speaker 5: their infancy of movie geekdom is. So what were you
- 1:19:54Speaker 5: into film-wise as a kid?
- 1:19:58Speaker 3: Well, when I was, like, really young, it was, like,
- 1:20:01Speaker 3: Conan the Barbarian was, like, my jam. Then I think, like,
- 1:20:06Speaker 3: Apollo 13 kind of became an obsession. almost too much
- 1:20:10Speaker 3: to the point where I went to base camp thinking
- 1:20:12Speaker 3: I wanted to be an astronaut, but really it was
- 1:20:14Speaker 3: just that I loved Apollo 13. And then it was
- 1:20:17Speaker 3: when I saw Boogie Nights and I was like, oh,
- 1:20:19Speaker 3: that's what I want to do. That's what I want
- 1:20:21Speaker 3: to do.
- 1:20:22Speaker 5: That's a pretty wide.
- 1:20:23Speaker 10: Array of film.
- 1:20:25Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm pretty all over the map.
- 1:20:28Speaker 5: I appreciate that. I am as well. I like when
- 1:20:32Speaker 5: people have a lot to draw from.
- 1:20:34Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:20:35Speaker 5: So at what point did you, you know, I guess
- 1:20:37Speaker 5: around that time, how old were you when you started
- 1:20:39Speaker 5: seriously working towards making film?
- 1:20:41Speaker 3: Taking it seriously, probably somewhere around like seventh or eighth grade.
- 1:20:49Speaker 3: And as a freshman in high school, I made a
- 1:20:52Speaker 3: short film that like starred my brother. That was really bad,
- 1:20:57Speaker 3: but kind of got me going on it. I've been
- 1:21:01Speaker 3: kind of consistently making shorts and stuff all the way
- 1:21:04Speaker 3: up until now, basically.
- 1:21:06Speaker 5: Were you still Super 8, or had you moved into
- 1:21:08Speaker 5: video at that point?
- 1:21:10Speaker 3: Oh, no, it was video. It was video. It was DVD.
- 1:21:14Speaker 3: On that point, that first one I edited with, like,
- 1:21:21Speaker 3: I guess, like, deck-to-deck or whatever the right term is, but, like,
- 1:21:25Speaker 3: across VTRs and then And then I went and took
- 1:21:32Speaker 3: a film class while I was in high school over
- 1:21:35Speaker 3: the summer. And there they taught us on black and
- 1:21:40Speaker 3: white 60mm reversal film. And that's how I first, like,
- 1:21:44Speaker 3: learned to really edit was on what's called a Steenbeck.
- 1:21:47Speaker 3: I don't know how familiar you are with all this stuff,
- 1:21:49Speaker 3: but you literally kind of, like, the same piece of
- 1:21:53Speaker 3: film that, like, went through the camera also gets, like,
- 1:21:57Speaker 3: well it gets developed but there is no negative so
- 1:21:59Speaker 3: you actually like you physically kind of cut and splice
- 1:22:03Speaker 3: that and then that's the same piece of film that
- 1:22:04Speaker 3: goes through the projector and you really kind of get
- 1:22:07Speaker 3: a whole sense of like the actual process and so
- 1:22:11Speaker 3: I feel strongly that people should learn that way even
- 1:22:13Speaker 3: though you know I don't know that's kind of an
- 1:22:14Speaker 3: old school attitude maybe for someone of my generation but
- 1:22:19Speaker 3: even though I do everything digitally now of course and
- 1:22:22Speaker 3: have ever since that program but I don't know like
- 1:22:26Speaker 3: it makes you kind of actually know what you want
- 1:22:28Speaker 3: to do, which I think is important, as opposed to
- 1:22:30Speaker 3: just kind of like finding it later.
- 1:22:32Speaker 5: You ended up at NYU. Is that where you met
- 1:22:36Speaker 5: the guys from Derek Comedy, or had you known them
- 1:22:38Speaker 5: before then?
- 1:22:38Speaker 3: No, that's where I met the guys from Derek Comedy. Maggie,
- 1:22:42Speaker 3: the girl from Derek Comedy, had gone to my high school,
- 1:22:46Speaker 3: and we met senior year. She stage managed a play
- 1:22:51Speaker 3: that I directed, and then we were both going to
- 1:22:54Speaker 3: New York to kind of go to college and She
- 1:22:57Speaker 3: wanted to be a producer, I wanted to be a director.
- 1:22:59Speaker 3: So that was a good combination.
- 1:23:02Speaker 5: Were they originally planning on shooting things? I mean, had
- 1:23:06Speaker 5: it started out as just a comedy troupe that then
- 1:23:09Speaker 5: worked its way into shooting film, or had it always
- 1:23:11Speaker 5: been planned as like a video project?
- 1:23:14Speaker 3: It was kind of a combination thing. It was like,
- 1:23:17Speaker 3: it was a much larger group called the Wicked Wicked
- 1:23:20Speaker 3: Hammer Cats. Yeah, it was this much larger, far too
- 1:23:24Speaker 3: big group. where we were doing these kind of like
- 1:23:27Speaker 3: monthly shows where the style was kind of very openly
- 1:23:31Speaker 3: ripping off Mr. Show with Bob and David. And where
- 1:23:36Speaker 3: like all the sketches would kind of transition into each other.
- 1:23:39Speaker 3: So it would be like a stage sketch and then
- 1:23:43Speaker 3: the characters would run off of the stage and then
- 1:23:45Speaker 3: the projection would come up and it would run onto
- 1:23:47Speaker 3: the screen. You know what I mean? So we were
- 1:23:50Speaker 3: doing these kind of like mini short sketches. They'd be
- 1:23:53Speaker 3: like between five and ten every month at NYU in
- 1:23:58Speaker 3: like oh three oh four and that's kind of how
- 1:24:01Speaker 3: we all got together and then we broke off uh
- 1:24:04Speaker 3: as the five of us and just started doing video
- 1:24:06Speaker 3: stuff it.
- 1:24:07Speaker 5: Is interesting how you know you were kind of still
- 1:24:10Speaker 5: appreciating the the old school form of learning film when
- 1:24:13Speaker 5: you so much of what you came from not only
- 1:24:16Speaker 5: was digital what was you know was YouTube, you know,
- 1:24:19Speaker 5: it kind of launched your career, basically, YouTube.
- 1:24:22Speaker 3: It definitely did, it definitely did, but I mean, we
- 1:24:24Speaker 3: always kind of brought, I guess, a kind of old school,
- 1:24:28Speaker 3: or I don't know what old school, definitely not by
- 1:24:30Speaker 3: our content, but I mean, we kind of tried to
- 1:24:32Speaker 3: bring in more, I guess, cinematic quality to the stuff that,
- 1:24:36Speaker 3: at least the kind of stuff that was going on
- 1:24:37Speaker 3: on YouTube at the time. There was kind of a
- 1:24:40Speaker 3: mentality of like, eh, it's the internet, who cares? And
- 1:24:44Speaker 3: I was like, oh, it's Come on, let's just do
- 1:24:47Speaker 3: it like we would if we hadn't. So that was
- 1:24:50Speaker 3: kind of how I came about it.
- 1:24:53Speaker 5: Yeah, yours was always a step up from the normal
- 1:24:56Speaker 5: stuff you would find on YouTube.
- 1:24:58Speaker 10: Oh, thanks, man.
- 1:24:59Speaker 5: Even in the early days, yeah, it was definitely a
- 1:25:02Speaker 5: noticeable difference.
- 1:25:03Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:25:05Speaker 5: Before we get into the full Mystery Team movie, I
- 1:25:08Speaker 5: did want to ask you, you also worked with Blue
- 1:25:11Speaker 5: Man Group. I just... Well, my first question is, can
- 1:25:15Speaker 5: you direct Blue Man Group? Really?
- 1:25:18Speaker 4: Or is it.
- 1:25:19Speaker 5: Or are you just capturing Blue Man Group?
- 1:25:22Speaker 3: It depends on what it is that you're doing.
- 1:25:25Speaker 1: But, yeah.
- 1:25:27Speaker 3: I mean, there's, like... There's, like, all these rules that...
- 1:25:30Speaker 3: They're almost like laws of physics, basically, when it comes
- 1:25:33Speaker 3: to Blue Man Group, where, like, you can never see
- 1:25:36Speaker 3: only two Blue Men in a show. You have to
- 1:25:38Speaker 3: either see one or three... They can't high-five each other.
- 1:25:43Speaker 3: There's all these established laws of Blue Man. So you
- 1:25:47Speaker 3: have to kind of work within it. But I did
- 1:25:49Speaker 3: a big range of things. So sometimes it was just
- 1:25:52Speaker 3: capturing and then kind of editing the music and stuff.
- 1:25:56Speaker 3: But one time we were setting up our tour. Me
- 1:26:02Speaker 3: and Dominic from Derek, we used to kind of come
- 1:26:05Speaker 3: on as a second on my team there. Well, we
- 1:26:10Speaker 3: went to, it was like some big stadium or something.
- 1:26:13Speaker 3: We were like rehearsing for a week. And it was
- 1:26:16Speaker 3: like a hockey rink, but there was no ice in there.
- 1:26:18Speaker 3: And we got rollerblades. And we had cameras. And we
- 1:26:22Speaker 3: just rollerbladed around while they rehearsed and got a bunch
- 1:26:24Speaker 3: of cool shots. And it was like really fun. That's
- 1:26:27Speaker 3: kind of more in the capturing sense. But then, yeah,
- 1:26:30Speaker 3: there was like these kind of video pieces that would
- 1:26:32Speaker 3: play during the show that, yeah, you could direct. I mean,
- 1:26:34Speaker 3: it was tough for sure.
- 1:26:37Speaker 5: Can you interact with them like normal human beings?
- 1:26:41Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. No, that took me a while to get over, but,
- 1:26:44Speaker 3: you know, seeing a blue man, like, eating a sandwich,
- 1:26:48Speaker 3: checking his email. Yeah, oh, yeah, no, no. But there
- 1:26:51Speaker 3: is all these rules about, like, in public, like, if
- 1:26:54Speaker 3: any of them smoke, like, they can never be seen
- 1:26:57Speaker 3: in the blue smoke hangar. They can never, they can't
- 1:27:01Speaker 3: ever talk. uh in it but yeah oh i i
- 1:27:05Speaker 3: got i'm and sometimes i would shoot like just like
- 1:27:08Speaker 3: their heads and the whole body would just be like
- 1:27:10Speaker 3: some some dude in sandals it got it was it
- 1:27:13Speaker 3: sometimes that was pretty funny it's really like some of
- 1:27:16Speaker 3: the behind the scenes crap that i have is on
- 1:27:18Speaker 3: my computer it's really pretty funny that's pretty awesome shit
- 1:27:21Speaker 3: that i would never be allowed to show anyone but.
- 1:27:23Speaker 5: They're like the characters at disneyland exactly exactly there's definitely
- 1:27:28Speaker 5: like a kind of lore there that they keep up.
- 1:27:32Speaker 5: Can't cross that line.
- 1:27:34Speaker 3: Exactly.
- 1:27:36Speaker 5: Well, then I did want to get into, you know,
- 1:27:37Speaker 5: I guess your first full length feature was, was mystery team.
- 1:27:41Speaker 8: Yep.
- 1:27:42Speaker 5: So was that, and this was one we, it's weird that,
- 1:27:45Speaker 5: you know, normally I, I had no idea we were
- 1:27:47Speaker 5: going to do this when we had, we had our
- 1:27:49Speaker 5: movie discussion about it, you know, earlier in the week
- 1:27:52Speaker 5: and had no idea at the time. So this is
- 1:27:53Speaker 5: actually kind of interesting cause I can, some of the
- 1:27:55Speaker 5: things that we raised at the time, I can actually
- 1:27:57Speaker 5: ask you about, um, One of the things I just
- 1:28:00Speaker 5: wasn't sure about was, were they pre-existing characters? Had they
- 1:28:03Speaker 5: been in skits? I don't think I'd seen skits.
- 1:28:05Speaker 3: No. No, no, no. They were completely original. Actually, Donald
- 1:28:11Speaker 3: had written on spec an Encyclopedia Brown. I think it
- 1:28:16Speaker 3: was just an outline. I don't know if he actually
- 1:28:17Speaker 3: wrote the full script. It was Encyclopedia Brown, kind of.
- 1:28:21Speaker 3: A little too grown up. But he's still doing that.
- 1:28:24Speaker 3: And that didn't go.
- 1:28:28Speaker 5: And we were.
- 1:28:29Speaker 3: We had written another feature of Derek that we were
- 1:28:31Speaker 3: going to make. Or, well, rather, we went out to L.A.,
- 1:28:34Speaker 3: tried to get it funded in the kind of more
- 1:28:36Speaker 3: traditional way, and didn't get any biters. And we were like,
- 1:28:40Speaker 3: fuck it, we're just going to do it ourselves. And
- 1:28:42Speaker 3: then we kind of fell out of love with the idea,
- 1:28:43Speaker 3: and so we were swipping on ideas. And when we
- 1:28:46Speaker 3: bought this one up, we all just immediately jumped on it.
- 1:28:49Speaker 3: We were like, oh, yeah, it's going to be three
- 1:28:50Speaker 3: of them. It's going to be like a master of disguise.
- 1:28:53Speaker 3: And then a bunch of stuff kind of came out
- 1:28:54Speaker 3: of that early conversation. And that's kind of where it
- 1:28:57Speaker 3: went from there. But, no, they weren't big things. Thank
- 1:28:59Speaker 3: you for asking. I didn't want to pick different characters.
- 1:29:02Speaker 5: Kind of, yeah, amazing just in general how well fleshed
- 1:29:06Speaker 5: out they are and how much they had it worked
- 1:29:08Speaker 5: out as far as how they, not only how they
- 1:29:10Speaker 5: conduct themselves but how they interact with each other. It's
- 1:29:13Speaker 5: pretty impressive that they hadn't been working on them, you know,
- 1:29:16Speaker 5: years and years ahead of time that it fell into
- 1:29:18Speaker 5: place as quickly.
- 1:29:19Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we did write it toward, you know,
- 1:29:23Speaker 3: the strengths of the performers and the way that they
- 1:29:26Speaker 3: kind of are good at interacting, which we knew, you know, Well,
- 1:29:30Speaker 3: in the writing room, it's like the three guys playing
- 1:29:33Speaker 3: the three guys are the ones doing the writing, so
- 1:29:35Speaker 3: it was pretty, you know, we could kind of do
- 1:29:38Speaker 3: a lot of improv in the writing room and then
- 1:29:40Speaker 3: just kind of like, oh, that was great, let's write that,
- 1:29:43Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
- 1:29:44Speaker 5: It's also, was there, it's so weird because it almost
- 1:29:47Speaker 5: feels like it's, especially those characters feel like they're almost
- 1:29:51Speaker 5: set in a different time. Was there a specific time
- 1:29:54Speaker 5: frame or, like, reference that you were going for as
- 1:29:57Speaker 5: far as, you know, what they're what their mindset was
- 1:30:01Speaker 5: based from?
- 1:30:03Speaker 3: I mean, sure. I, like, the idea, I think, was
- 1:30:06Speaker 3: that they were, they think that they're kind of like
- 1:30:09Speaker 3: kids from the 50s. They're not, like, that ridiculously stupid.
- 1:30:12Speaker 3: They don't actually think that. They just kind of, like,
- 1:30:15Speaker 3: read those things and, um, just kind of, like, believe
- 1:30:19Speaker 3: in that kind of, I don't know, almost, like, leave
- 1:30:22Speaker 3: it to beaver-esque world that clearly doesn't exist and never
- 1:30:26Speaker 3: existed even back then. But, um, Yeah, I mean, we
- 1:30:30Speaker 3: were kind of going for, like, an anachronistic kind of
- 1:30:33Speaker 3: 50s kid, like, hardy boys kind of vibe.
- 1:30:37Speaker 5: I said it felt like a, sort of like a
- 1:30:38Speaker 5: Little Rascals vibe, which.
- 1:30:40Speaker 3: Yeah, Little Rascals, totally.
- 1:30:42Speaker 5: Our gang thing, which is weird, because it's like, it's
- 1:30:44Speaker 5: not even like they're stuck in their childhood, because their
- 1:30:48Speaker 5: childhood would have been, like, the early 80s, right?
- 1:30:51Speaker 3: Right, that's what I mean. It's like... These kids were
- 1:30:55Speaker 3: clearly watching things like Little Rascals and stuff, being like,
- 1:30:58Speaker 3: that's what kids are! So, yeah, no, it's not like
- 1:31:03Speaker 3: they're just, you know, into He-Man and stuff like that.
- 1:31:06Speaker 3: Time period-wise. They're into things from the wrong time period.
- 1:31:13Speaker 5: As far as the story structure, again, I think it's impressive,
- 1:31:16Speaker 5: you know, that there really is a structure to the
- 1:31:18Speaker 5: story itself.
- 1:31:20Speaker 8: And this is one.
- 1:31:22Speaker 5: Actually, my co-host, when we had the discussion, brought this
- 1:31:25Speaker 5: up that it hadn't occurred to me, but was there
- 1:31:27Speaker 5: any specific movie or movies you sort of structured it after?
- 1:31:31Speaker 3: Not directly. Why did he think there was?
- 1:31:35Speaker 5: He came up with one that actually is kind of interesting,
- 1:31:38Speaker 5: and I just wondered if there was something in mind
- 1:31:40Speaker 5: ahead of time, or if it's just.
- 1:31:42Speaker 3: I'd love to know what it was.
- 1:31:44Speaker 5: It's... Yeah, it's interesting, because the more he talked about it,
- 1:31:48Speaker 5: I was like, wow, it does sort of fall into play.
- 1:31:50Speaker 5: And it seems like a very odd choice, but he
- 1:31:53Speaker 5: tied it to Blue Velvet. That's interesting.
- 1:31:57Speaker 10: As a character that's kind of wide-eyed and innocent, that
- 1:32:00Speaker 10: gets sucked into this underworld that's kind of always been
- 1:32:04Speaker 10: in their town, but he's neglected to acknowledge it, and
- 1:32:07Speaker 10: he's doing it more or less for the girl. He's
- 1:32:09Speaker 10: trying to impress her and win favor with her and gets.
- 1:32:14Speaker 5: Many a time he could have saved himself and gone
- 1:32:16Speaker 5: to the police, but he never does. He always goes
- 1:32:18Speaker 5: deeper into the scenario.
- 1:32:20Speaker 3: You know, maybe sub-sub-consciously. I mean, I honestly think at
- 1:32:25Speaker 3: least a good number of the group hasn't seen Blue Velvet,
- 1:32:28Speaker 3: but I mean... Not intentionally, but yeah, I can totally
- 1:32:33Speaker 3: see the parallels there, actually. And it's funny you say that,
- 1:32:36Speaker 3: because I've been currently talking about Boo Velvet a lot,
- 1:32:38Speaker 3: but yeah, that's funny. Yeah, I can see that for sure.
- 1:32:43Speaker 5: You wouldn't think that from those two movies, but the
- 1:32:46Speaker 5: more you went on, I was like, well, yeah, there's
- 1:32:48Speaker 5: a lot of similarities.
- 1:32:49Speaker 4: That, you know.
- 1:32:50Speaker 3: No, that's actually a really good point. That's kind of cool. No,
- 1:32:53Speaker 3: it wasn't intentional in that regard.
- 1:32:56Speaker 5: No, I mean, and yeah, it's very different as far
- 1:32:59Speaker 5: as actual, you know, there's nothing taken from it ever.
- 1:33:02Speaker 5: It never even feels like, yeah, I can see how
- 1:33:04Speaker 5: half the crew probably hadn't even seen it, you know,
- 1:33:06Speaker 5: and still have it come off very original. But it
- 1:33:09Speaker 5: was just interesting. Sort of what I love about, you know,
- 1:33:11Speaker 5: film lore, as it were, too, is how much you
- 1:33:13Speaker 5: can pull like parallels from. stories that are so different,
- 1:33:16Speaker 5: but you find, like, this truth between the characters.
- 1:33:18Speaker 3: Well, once we found the, or once we kind of, like,
- 1:33:21Speaker 3: landed on that premise, it really felt like it was
- 1:33:24Speaker 3: a very organic way to kind of go with it,
- 1:33:27Speaker 3: and we kept kind of figuring out, being like, has
- 1:33:30Speaker 3: somebody made this movie already? Like, somebody has to have
- 1:33:32Speaker 3: made this movie already, right? Because, I don't know, it
- 1:33:35Speaker 3: felt like it was such a, like, clear way to make,
- 1:33:39Speaker 3: you know, way to go with that premise. I don't know.
- 1:33:41Speaker 5: Well, I think that's, again, on just the story structuring,
- 1:33:44Speaker 5: what we found was kind of impressive is the fact that,
- 1:33:47Speaker 5: especially coming from the background that you guys did, that
- 1:33:50Speaker 5: it wasn't a strung together bunch of skits. It wasn't
- 1:33:54Speaker 5: like we started off with five skits, now how do
- 1:33:56Speaker 5: we work it into a movie? A lot of things,
- 1:33:59Speaker 5: and we reference the SNL movies, that feel like they
- 1:34:02Speaker 5: were almost doing that. They're working in characters that everybody
- 1:34:05Speaker 5: loves just to get a 90-minute run time. Where you
- 1:34:08Speaker 5: guys don't, it feels very, you know, like a whole picture.
- 1:34:11Speaker 5: Like you really did start with a whole story arc and,
- 1:34:14Speaker 5: you know, fleshed it out from there.
- 1:34:16Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we had to kind of fight that instinct, too,
- 1:34:18Speaker 3: you know. But, yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. That's
- 1:34:23Speaker 3: something that we fought hard to try and achieve.
- 1:34:26Speaker 5: As far as your visual style, who came up with
- 1:34:30Speaker 5: the sort of color palette that comes into play, especially
- 1:34:33Speaker 5: the character-based, you know, each character sort of having their
- 1:34:36Speaker 5: own color?
- 1:34:38Speaker 3: Um the actual like the fact that each one was
- 1:34:41Speaker 3: kind of red green and blue yeah i don't remember
- 1:34:44Speaker 3: who specifically um came up with that i feel like
- 1:34:48Speaker 3: we all we all just kind of like inherently were
- 1:34:50Speaker 3: like well of course they have to each have their
- 1:34:52Speaker 3: own color like um so i feel like that that
- 1:34:56Speaker 3: was kind of a group vision or i honestly don't
- 1:35:00Speaker 3: remember who exactly um that came from but then Yeah,
- 1:35:04Speaker 3: I mean, I pushed it to kind of keep it
- 1:35:06Speaker 3: consistent across the aesthetic.
- 1:35:10Speaker 5: You make great use of it. I mean, just the
- 1:35:13Speaker 5: shot with the bikes as they roll up. Yeah, some
- 1:35:16Speaker 5: of that stuff is really well done just visually.
- 1:35:18Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, we had to paint those
- 1:35:21Speaker 3: bikes special. And they kept getting chipped. We had to
- 1:35:25Speaker 3: repaint them. But yeah, I don't know. We just felt
- 1:35:28Speaker 3: like they needed to have such a clear uniform and...
- 1:35:32Speaker 3: kind of primary colors and have them really pop. And
- 1:35:36Speaker 3: we searched for, like, Jason's shirt over and over and
- 1:35:39Speaker 3: over again, not finding the right one, you know. So, yeah, yeah. Like,
- 1:35:44Speaker 3: the idea is, I think, that they kind of have, like,
- 1:35:46Speaker 3: almost like the Batsuit. Like, they have, like, a closet
- 1:35:49Speaker 3: full of those clothes, basically. But I feel like that
- 1:35:53Speaker 3: stuff came from almost, like, the first conversation. But anyway,
- 1:35:56Speaker 3: that's fine.
- 1:35:57Speaker 5: But, yeah, that's, yeah, it kind of, again, it tied
- 1:35:59Speaker 5: into their characters of being very, set in their ways
- 1:36:02Speaker 5: and in their own little world that they do have
- 1:36:04Speaker 5: sort of a uniform that they put on every day. Yep.
- 1:36:09Speaker 5: And then as far as just the other visuals, was
- 1:36:12Speaker 5: there anything you set out to do? I mean, I
- 1:36:13Speaker 5: guess you were probably a little more limited in, like,
- 1:36:17Speaker 5: YouTube videos, so once you got this chance to do
- 1:36:20Speaker 5: sort of whatever you want, did you have anything visually
- 1:36:22Speaker 5: that you tried to do with this film?
- 1:36:25Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, camera-wise, I wanted to shoot it really
- 1:36:29Speaker 3: kind of like from their perspective, like the way that,
- 1:36:32Speaker 3: I wanted to shoot them the way that they see themselves,
- 1:36:34Speaker 3: if that makes sense.
- 1:36:35Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:36:35Speaker 3: So I kind of wanted to give them a little
- 1:36:37Speaker 3: bit more of like an epic feel and kind of
- 1:36:40Speaker 3: like evoke, I don't know, kind of like some of
- 1:36:44Speaker 3: those kind of 80s kind of adventure, like kid adventure movies, like,
- 1:36:48Speaker 3: I don't know, like Back to the Future and like
- 1:36:52Speaker 3: some of the stuff that kind of Spielberg was doing
- 1:36:54Speaker 3: in his early days, stuff like that.
- 1:36:55Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 1:36:56Speaker 5: Because, yeah, I mean, there's, again, I brought it up
- 1:36:58Speaker 5: on the show, but it's definitely very different. And, again, from,
- 1:37:03Speaker 5: you know, standard comedies that are shot today, usually anything
- 1:37:06Speaker 5: that falls in that category is pretty static and boring.
- 1:37:09Speaker 5: And you get to something like you're shot on the
- 1:37:10Speaker 5: baseball field that's just, like, amazing to look at. So it's, yeah,
- 1:37:14Speaker 5: it's very different from what you normally see in that
- 1:37:17Speaker 5: type of, especially in a comedy these days.
- 1:37:21Speaker 3: That means a lot, man, because on set it got
- 1:37:24Speaker 3: really rough, and the crew kept constantly being like, come on, man,
- 1:37:27Speaker 3: it's a comedy, just coverage, coverage, coverage.
- 1:37:30Speaker 13: Whoa, please, please.
- 1:37:32Speaker 3: So it means a lot that, you know, you're actually
- 1:37:34Speaker 3: picking up on that.
- 1:37:35Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, there's definitely a lot of shots that
- 1:37:38Speaker 5: sort of show a little bit of artistry to it
- 1:37:41Speaker 5: that you don't necessarily get, especially when you're just trying
- 1:37:44Speaker 5: to shoot coverage of stuff.
- 1:37:45Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:37:46Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 1:37:48Speaker 5: The only thing I thought maybe... you guys have, and
- 1:37:51Speaker 5: I was going to see if, you know, you've dealt
- 1:37:52Speaker 5: with it more than anyone, probably, as far as the
- 1:37:55Speaker 5: response from people, I almost had, I know you guys
- 1:37:58Speaker 5: had to change the title pretty, you know, right up
- 1:38:01Speaker 5: to the, right before you started shooting, but even since then,
- 1:38:04Speaker 5: have you had trouble with title recognition? It just seems
- 1:38:07Speaker 5: like it, because even when I heard it, I heard
- 1:38:10Speaker 5: you talk about it, I wanted to see it, and
- 1:38:11Speaker 5: then I would think of the title and wait, wait,
- 1:38:13Speaker 5: is that the right movie? Is it something that you've
- 1:38:17Speaker 5: feel like has been a problem? Is, is just having
- 1:38:19Speaker 5: people have name recognition with that title in your movie?
- 1:38:23Speaker 3: Um, I mean, there's definitely been people who think it's
- 1:38:28Speaker 3: called Mystery Men.
- 1:38:29Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:38:29Speaker 3: And, um and it was it was originally supposed to
- 1:38:32Speaker 3: be called mystery gang yeah but that where there was
- 1:38:36Speaker 3: a clearance issue with that from going scooby-doo um but
- 1:38:40Speaker 3: um I mean, maybe it does have that problem, but
- 1:38:46Speaker 3: I haven't been too aware of it, frankly.
- 1:38:49Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, I mean, you've gotten such good response just from, again,
- 1:38:53Speaker 5: the movie geeks of the world, the people that are on,
- 1:38:55Speaker 5: you know, that are on the internet and they're into
- 1:38:57Speaker 5: online comedy and that are into, you know, even shows
- 1:39:00Speaker 5: like we do. I mean, I think those people have
- 1:39:02Speaker 5: all found it because they were either already familiar with
- 1:39:05Speaker 5: you or, you know, just because they've heard good buzz
- 1:39:07Speaker 5: on it. But I'm just, you know, normal people who,
- 1:39:10Speaker 5: I think you said, like, would be picking up boxes
- 1:39:12Speaker 5: back in the day at the video store, now they're
- 1:39:14Speaker 5: just flipping through a Redbox or other Netflix queue, and
- 1:39:18Speaker 5: it's harder to kind of get a hold of people's
- 1:39:19Speaker 5: attention when, especially, yeah, when you've got a title that
- 1:39:23Speaker 5: they don't know what to do with.
- 1:39:24Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the double-edged sword of
- 1:39:26Speaker 3: making an independent movie, is, like, you have complete creative
- 1:39:29Speaker 3: freedom to not be told what to do by a
- 1:39:31Speaker 3: marketing department, but then you have no marketing department to
- 1:39:34Speaker 3: make sure that it will be marketed right. So, you know.
- 1:39:38Speaker 5: I think I still, yeah, we went into a thing
- 1:39:40Speaker 5: on Kick-Ass, how badly marketed that was. I think you
- 1:39:44Speaker 5: guys still fare a lot better, and I think it's
- 1:39:45Speaker 5: because you didn't have, because I think they almost fell
- 1:39:48Speaker 5: into that, where they did the movie completely independently, but
- 1:39:51Speaker 5: then somebody took over and started marketing it wrong. Whereas
- 1:39:54Speaker 5: I think even your grassroots version still came out a
- 1:39:58Speaker 5: lot better. I think you'll still get a lot better
- 1:40:00Speaker 5: response from people than having... somebody who doesn't know what
- 1:40:04Speaker 5: it is you're doing, you know, try to market it.
- 1:40:06Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that was definitely a big challenge for
- 1:40:09Speaker 3: us in general, was, like, it's a movie, because, like,
- 1:40:12Speaker 3: people kind of, when we were trying to get it
- 1:40:14Speaker 3: sold and stuff, they were like, well, there are these
- 1:40:16Speaker 3: scenes in there that could play in a kid's movie,
- 1:40:18Speaker 3: but then there are these scenes that really couldn't play
- 1:40:20Speaker 3: in a kid's movie. And they're like, so who is
- 1:40:22Speaker 3: it for? Is it for kids or is it for adults?
- 1:40:24Speaker 3: And we were always like, It's for adults who once
- 1:40:27Speaker 3: were kids, which we kind of assumed was all of them, but,
- 1:40:30Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, you know. So that kind
- 1:40:33Speaker 3: of disconnect, the kind of, the difficulty of just kind of, like,
- 1:40:37Speaker 3: it's not, you don't hear the title and then, like,
- 1:40:40Speaker 3: see a scene and then immediately just get it was
- 1:40:42Speaker 3: kind of tough. You've got to kind of warm up
- 1:40:45Speaker 3: to it. It's like, the whole idea that it's, like,
- 1:40:47Speaker 3: these G-rated characters in an R-rated world, And it kind of...
- 1:40:52Speaker 3: And they're not even G-rated. They're almost like live-action cartoon
- 1:40:55Speaker 3: characters in a fucked-up, R-rated kind of... I don't know
- 1:40:59Speaker 3: about real, but realer world than they live in.
- 1:41:03Speaker 5: Definitely.
- 1:41:04Speaker 3: It takes a little while to kind of wrap your
- 1:41:06Speaker 3: head around, I think, if you're not already kind of
- 1:41:07Speaker 3: on board.
- 1:41:08Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's what I said in our discussion, is
- 1:41:11Speaker 5: that it really does... It's something you kind of have
- 1:41:13Speaker 5: to click with or you don't. Either you don't get
- 1:41:15Speaker 5: what you guys are doing... Or you get it and
- 1:41:17Speaker 5: you love it. It's not a lot of middle ground
- 1:41:19Speaker 5: with what you were doing.
- 1:41:21Speaker 3: We've found a lot of people who, like, the first
- 1:41:23Speaker 3: time were like, huh? I guess I kind of thought
- 1:41:25Speaker 3: about it. And then, like, once they know what it is,
- 1:41:27Speaker 3: they can kind of go back and enjoy, like, on
- 1:41:30Speaker 3: the second year, and they can enjoy it more. Because
- 1:41:31Speaker 3: they're like, oh, I know what we're doing now. I
- 1:41:33Speaker 3: can kind of kick back and have fun with this.
- 1:41:36Speaker 3: Whereas if you're just kind of trying to figure out, like, well,
- 1:41:37Speaker 3: what's going on here? Tell me what this is immediately.
- 1:41:41Speaker 3: We don't completely do that with that, which I'm sure
- 1:41:43Speaker 3: wouldn't have really flown... if we had been doing it
- 1:41:46Speaker 3: with a studio.
- 1:41:47Speaker 5: Yeah, you've really got to kind of have a little
- 1:41:50Speaker 5: faith flying into it because it is almost like until
- 1:41:53Speaker 5: she comes to give them the double murder scene. It's
- 1:41:55Speaker 5: like that far in before you really kind of get
- 1:41:57Speaker 5: their level of consciousness. You almost do have to have
- 1:42:01Speaker 5: a little patience.
- 1:42:01Speaker 3: Yeah, in theaters, because having taken it on the theatrical
- 1:42:08Speaker 3: run and having to kind of take it by hand
- 1:42:10Speaker 3: to all these different cities and sitting in on a
- 1:42:12Speaker 3: ton of screenings, A lot of times, like, unless it's, like,
- 1:42:16Speaker 3: an audience who, like, really knows our stuff, it's, like,
- 1:42:18Speaker 3: it's when they get to the strip club that they're, like, oh,
- 1:42:20Speaker 3: that's what this is. That's what this always was. Okay.
- 1:42:24Speaker 3: And then they're more on board.
- 1:42:26Speaker 5: Well, the strip club wins them.
- 1:42:27Speaker 4: Over, you know.
- 1:42:28Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. The strip club wins anyone over.
- 1:42:32Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, usually.
- 1:42:33Speaker 5: That's how it goes. Well, I know you said you
- 1:42:37Speaker 5: were working on a new movie. I'd actually just... said
- 1:42:41Speaker 5: I was kind of interested to see where you were
- 1:42:42Speaker 5: going from here. So can you tell us what it
- 1:42:44Speaker 5: is you're working on?
- 1:42:47Speaker 3: I can and I can't for some silly reason. They
- 1:42:51Speaker 3: don't want to announce. They want to announce it themselves,
- 1:42:55Speaker 3: and we're just kind of locking down our final cast member.
- 1:43:00Speaker 3: So I can't say exactly what the project is, but
- 1:43:04Speaker 3: it's a made-for-TV feature. I'm really quite excited about it. Um,
- 1:43:10Speaker 3: it's not written by any of the Derek folk, but, um,
- 1:43:13Speaker 3: it is co-produced by, um, Maggie and DC from Derek.
- 1:43:17Speaker 4: Interesting.
- 1:43:18Speaker 5: So is it, is it comedy oriented at least, or?
- 1:43:22Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an action comedy, actually.
- 1:43:24Speaker 5: Okay.
- 1:43:25Speaker 3: It's a teen action comedy. That if I were to
- 1:43:28Speaker 3: tell you the title, you would immediately be able to
- 1:43:30Speaker 3: figure out the, like, it has the opposite problem of,
- 1:43:32Speaker 3: or as, it doesn't have that problem the mystery thing
- 1:43:35Speaker 3: has where, like, you hear the title and you'll immediately go, oh,
- 1:43:37Speaker 3: I know what that movie is.
- 1:43:39Speaker 5: Yeah, the network will love that.
- 1:43:39Speaker 3: Which I'm kind of feeling comfortable.
- 1:43:41Speaker 5: Network will love that.
- 1:43:43Speaker 3: Well, I'm quite enjoying that element of it right now,
- 1:43:47Speaker 3: you know?
- 1:43:48Speaker 5: It's, yeah, got to be a big change for the
- 1:43:49Speaker 5: last couple of years. Yeah. Easily being able to market yourself.
- 1:43:54Speaker 3: Exactly. Also, not having to do it all ourselves, the
- 1:43:57Speaker 3: marketing side. Yeah. Hello, Chang. That's, actually, just to kind
- 1:44:01Speaker 3: of focus on the, because, like, You know, I'm in
- 1:44:03Speaker 3: it to make the movies. I'm not really wanting to
- 1:44:06Speaker 3: be a distributor. And so having to kind of spend
- 1:44:10Speaker 3: a year and a half at distribution school was taxing.
- 1:44:14Speaker 5: Well, that's another one we were so impressed with, is
- 1:44:17Speaker 5: how much you guys did this completely of your own.
- 1:44:20Speaker 5: I mean, just saving up your own money for years
- 1:44:22Speaker 5: just to put this movie together. That's something impressive that
- 1:44:26Speaker 5: you don't see with a lot of people as well.
- 1:44:27Speaker 5: So it's cool that you... did that but at the
- 1:44:30Speaker 5: same time i can see why you don't want to
- 1:44:32Speaker 5: do that every movie for the rest of your lives.
- 1:44:35Speaker 3: No no no yeah it was a means to.
- 1:44:38Speaker 5: An end it's a foot in the door yeah that's how.
- 1:44:41Speaker 3: We always saw the internet we always thought like that's
- 1:44:42Speaker 3: what we were always saying it's a means to an
- 1:44:44Speaker 3: end it's funny just like being at sundance that year
- 1:44:46Speaker 3: because everyone was like talking about like oh digital distribution
- 1:44:50Speaker 3: and the internet that's the way the future we're like
- 1:44:53Speaker 3: We're done with the internet. We want to try and
- 1:44:54Speaker 3: get into, like, brick and mortar places. We want to
- 1:44:56Speaker 3: get ourselves into more traditional places. We've been doing digital
- 1:45:00Speaker 3: for years.
- 1:45:02Speaker 7: Exactly.
- 1:45:02Speaker 3: We're trying to, like, swim upstream, basically. Or swim against,
- 1:45:06Speaker 3: or whatever the right word is for.
- 1:45:09Speaker 5: That. Well, it definitely worked, at least so far. We'll
- 1:45:11Speaker 5: see where it goes. Are you planning on continuing more
- 1:45:16Speaker 5: direct comedy projects, or is Donald getting too.
- 1:45:18Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
- 1:45:19Speaker 5: Is Donald getting out of control at this point? I mean.
- 1:45:21Speaker 3: out of control. Oh, Donald's never been in control.
- 1:45:24Speaker 8: Well, that's true.
- 1:45:25Speaker 5: He's ridiculously talented. It's amazing that he's, that he's kept
- 1:45:31Speaker 5: it in check this long.
- 1:45:33Speaker 3: No, he's, and I remember, like, when we were in college,
- 1:45:35Speaker 3: it was like a joke. It was like, it's a
- 1:45:36Speaker 3: countdown until Donald's famous. That was, that was, like, kind
- 1:45:40Speaker 3: of the running joke. But he's such an uber talent. But, yeah, no, definitely.
- 1:45:45Speaker 3: I mean, like, we're kind of, like, working in kind of, like,
- 1:45:49Speaker 3: smaller Derek groups at this point. Like, I just did
- 1:45:53Speaker 3: a kind of like giant, I guess you'd call it
- 1:45:56Speaker 3: a short film, but it's kind of a web series
- 1:45:58Speaker 3: for Jason Bateman and Will Arnett's company that Dominic was
- 1:46:02Speaker 3: involved in, and this film I'm doing right now, Maggie
- 1:46:07Speaker 3: and DC are co-producing, and hopefully going to make a
- 1:46:11Speaker 3: feature for like a Donald starring vehicle that maybe DC
- 1:46:15Speaker 3: will write. Actually, uh... my problem indeed be also are
- 1:46:20Speaker 3: adapting bbc of the novel couple of them sleep and
- 1:46:22Speaker 3: never had to do that is amazing we've been adapting
- 1:46:25Speaker 3: it into a feature but i don't know we we
- 1:46:28Speaker 3: are definitely going to be a little bit for sure
- 1:46:30Speaker 3: we're not going to keep doing the short uh... that
- 1:46:32Speaker 3: we have time uh... we're all the kind of but
- 1:46:36Speaker 3: that is that uh... we have all the way to
- 1:46:39Speaker 3: the floor but i do not like but i can
- 1:46:41Speaker 3: agree with you to put out tons and tons of
- 1:46:45Speaker 3: content every week or whatever like we'd rather kind of
- 1:46:48Speaker 3: like build on stuff and have each kind of thing
- 1:46:51Speaker 3: we put out maybe kind of uh be uh step
- 1:46:54Speaker 3: forward from the previous stuff and so we um we
- 1:46:58Speaker 3: don't mind if we go a long period of time
- 1:47:00Speaker 3: between projects and it's like oh my god they just
- 1:47:02Speaker 3: made a short what the hell You know what I mean?
- 1:47:05Speaker 5: That's kind of where we're at. Yeah, it's better to
- 1:47:07Speaker 5: put out quality work than just crank out, you know,
- 1:47:09Speaker 5: crap all the time.
- 1:47:11Speaker 3: That's how we feel about it. But, I mean, we've got, like,
- 1:47:13Speaker 3: on the sketch front, we've got literally probably 50 sketch
- 1:47:16Speaker 3: ideas that we're really excited about and want to do.
- 1:47:19Speaker 3: Just don't have the time or cash flow. Because, like,
- 1:47:23Speaker 3: at this point, all of our sketch ideas are, like,
- 1:47:25Speaker 3: ridiculously huge and expensive.
- 1:47:28Speaker 5: Of course, you know.
- 1:47:29Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 1:47:30Speaker 5: You have to one-up the last one, so, you know.
- 1:47:33Speaker 5: By the 50th one, it's going to be a multi-million
- 1:47:35Speaker 5: dollar sketch.
- 1:47:37Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, if any of us ever get that rich,
- 1:47:40Speaker 3: I mean, you're going to see, we're going to be
- 1:47:42Speaker 3: spending our money not on speedboats, but on really, really
- 1:47:45Speaker 3: stupid shit for the world to watch.
- 1:47:48Speaker 5: I'm up for that. That sounds like something I.
- 1:47:50Speaker 2: Can get behind.
- 1:47:50Speaker 3: It's going to be pretty fun. It's going to be
- 1:47:51Speaker 3: pretty fun.
- 1:47:53Speaker 5: Well, I gave a plug for Mystery Team, but in
- 1:47:57Speaker 5: case there's a better one, if you want to tell
- 1:47:59Speaker 5: people the best place for them to go and find it,
- 1:48:01Speaker 5: I don't mind plugging things that I think are really
- 1:48:03Speaker 5: that good. So, yeah, go ahead and tell them where.
- 1:48:05Speaker 2: To find it.
- 1:48:07Speaker 3: Well, the best place to find it online would be
- 1:48:09Speaker 3: just to go to mysteryteam-movie.com, where you kind of have
- 1:48:13Speaker 3: a link out to all the different places you can go. to.
- 1:48:16Speaker 3: You can buy it on Amazon. Our official store is
- 1:48:20Speaker 3: at the Busted Tees where you can get the signed
- 1:48:22Speaker 3: copy signed by all of our members. If you want
- 1:48:24Speaker 3: to get the actual DVD, I think you can get
- 1:48:26Speaker 3: it on Netflix. You can rent it at Blockbuster. You
- 1:48:29Speaker 3: can buy it at Best Buy. You can get it
- 1:48:31Speaker 3: at Walmart, Target, pretty much anywhere. But yeah, that's... Oh,
- 1:48:37Speaker 3: you can also get it on iTunes. You can get
- 1:48:40Speaker 3: it digitally on Amazon and a lot of places.
- 1:48:44Speaker 2: Very cool.
- 1:48:45Speaker 5: But, yeah, I guess, like I said, I really am
- 1:48:48Speaker 5: interested to see where you go. I think you show
- 1:48:52Speaker 5: more promise than most people coming out of the Internet,
- 1:48:54Speaker 5: so it's really good to see you moving on and
- 1:48:57Speaker 5: getting more projects because I kind of want to see
- 1:48:59Speaker 5: where you go as far as your visual style. Well,
- 1:49:03Speaker 5: I do want to thank you for talking to us,
- 1:49:05Speaker 5: and we're definitely getting it out there and trying to
- 1:49:07Speaker 5: get more people to view it that haven't seen it
- 1:49:10Speaker 5: so far.
- 1:49:10Speaker 3: Thanks, man. I really appreciate you guys going out on
- 1:49:15Speaker 3: a limb there. It really means a lot.
- 1:49:16Speaker 5: No problem. Yeah, I just saw it like a month
- 1:49:19Speaker 5: or so ago and was like, okay, we're rearranging the schedule.
- 1:49:22Speaker 5: We need to get this in here. It's like we
- 1:49:24Speaker 5: really need to talk about this and kind of get
- 1:49:26Speaker 5: that out there to people because I think it's, again,
- 1:49:28Speaker 5: there's so few good comedies out there that I really
- 1:49:30Speaker 5: kind of wanted to spread the word about it.
- 1:49:32Speaker 2: That's awesome.
- 1:49:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing you guys' discussion about it.
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- 1:51:00Speaker 4: Woo-woo!
- 1:51:01Speaker 7: It's part of.
- 1:51:08Speaker 3: Your problem, you know.
- 1:51:09Speaker 8: You haven't seen enough movies.
- 1:51:10Speaker 3: All of life's riddles are answered in the movies. And now,
- 1:51:15Speaker 3: on with the show.
- 1:51:39Speaker 11: I got this.
- 1:51:39Speaker 4: Money baby I wanna spend it on you.
- 1:51:46Speaker 11: I got this Sunday baby I wanna spend it with
- 1:51:51Speaker 11: you We can do what you like Promise that I'll
- 1:51:59Speaker 11: be true I got this money baby I wanna spend
- 1:52:07Speaker 11: it on you.
- 1:52:12Speaker 8: All right, we are back. And we've kind of got feedback.
- 1:52:16Speaker 5: I'm not going to do a full-fledged feedback on this one.
- 1:52:18Speaker 5: We're definitely playing with the basic structure of the show,
- 1:52:23Speaker 5: as you might have noticed.
- 1:52:24Speaker 8: So we're starting to.
- 1:52:26Speaker 5: Change things up, and we'll still be back with the
- 1:52:28Speaker 5: full crew, or in theory, I don't know. Some of
- 1:52:30Speaker 5: them were supposed to be here today, and they disappeared.
- 1:52:34Speaker 5: They might be dead.
- 1:52:34Speaker 8: They need a cell phone charger. Yeah, he's off charging
- 1:52:38Speaker 8: his phone somewhere in a ditch. I'm not really sure, really.
- 1:52:41Speaker 5: So hopefully we'll have live characters for you next time out,
- 1:52:45Speaker 5: because some of them just sort of disappeared.
- 1:52:47Speaker 6: Hopefully those guys that pissed on his car aren't... room
- 1:52:51Speaker 6: or something who knows.
- 1:52:53Speaker 5: Oh maybe he exploded a vermin in their front seat
- 1:52:56Speaker 5: but either way um yeah so that was yeah something
- 1:53:00Speaker 5: we're gonna work in some of these episodes as we
- 1:53:02Speaker 5: go on it and just do episodes based around the
- 1:53:05Speaker 5: movie and not the full-fledged movie party that we have
- 1:53:08Speaker 5: here every once in a while so we'll spread those
- 1:53:10Speaker 5: out but i still there's a lot of movies i
- 1:53:12Speaker 5: want to work in that you know that we're going
- 1:53:14Speaker 5: to tie in and maybe a smaller group as we
- 1:53:17Speaker 5: go along so this was a the first of many
- 1:53:20Speaker 5: of those as we christen this new section here, uh,
- 1:53:24Speaker 5: the ongoing, uh, experimental sofa theater. But this one I
- 1:53:29Speaker 5: did see, and this isn't even a full flinch feedback.
- 1:53:31Speaker 5: It was something that showed up on our, uh, on
- 1:53:33Speaker 5: our Facebook wall, which I just noticed this past week.
- 1:53:36Speaker 5: But I thought, I thought if anybody would appreciate it,
- 1:53:38Speaker 5: it would be you. So this was on the wall,
- 1:53:41Speaker 5: which once again, if you're not following us, Hey, you know,
- 1:53:43Speaker 5: befriend us on Facebook and, uh, We're on the Twitter
- 1:53:47Speaker 5: as well. So if you're not, we've actually started getting
- 1:53:50Speaker 5: a lot of people just randomly adding us on Facebook,
- 1:53:53Speaker 5: which is kind of cool.
- 1:53:54Speaker 12: Good.
- 1:53:54Speaker 5: It's not just me attacking people as it was in
- 1:53:57Speaker 5: the beginning. So now I don't even do anything and
- 1:53:59Speaker 5: there'll be four or five sitting there.
- 1:54:00Speaker 8: So that's kind of cool.
- 1:54:01Speaker 6: It's got to make you feel good.
- 1:54:02Speaker 5: It's good to know at least we're, well, I don't
- 1:54:05Speaker 5: know if they've heard of us, but maybe we're just
- 1:54:06Speaker 5: perplexing them with whatever our little icon is on someone
- 1:54:09Speaker 5: else's page.
- 1:54:10Speaker 8: And they're like, what the hell is that?
- 1:54:11Speaker 6: And then they add it.
- 1:54:12Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:54:13Speaker 8: I'll take that, too. Hey, you know, that's how you
- 1:54:15Speaker 8: get new people.
- 1:54:16Speaker 6: Even if it's just people friend collecting, that's always fun, too.
- 1:54:19Speaker 8: We'll take that, too. Sooner or later, they'll see one
- 1:54:21Speaker 8: of our posts and go, they watched what? Shark Depots?
- 1:54:25Speaker 8: What the hell?
- 1:54:26Speaker 7: Right.
- 1:54:27Speaker 8: And that's how, you know, you sucker people in.
- 1:54:29Speaker 5: So, this time, we heard from Sam, and he posted
- 1:54:33Speaker 5: on the page, because of you guys, I freaked out
- 1:54:35Speaker 5: at my local used DVD store when I came across
- 1:54:38Speaker 5: a copy of The Apple.
- 1:54:40Speaker 8: Thought you'd like to know. So that was somewhat directly
- 1:54:46Speaker 8: related to you personally.
- 1:54:47Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 1:54:49Speaker 8: You pointed out that we needed to watch the Apple.
- 1:54:51Speaker 5: So I thought, yeah, that I needed to mention that
- 1:54:53Speaker 5: while you were here because you've changed this guy's life.
- 1:54:56Speaker 3: Good.
- 1:54:58Speaker 6: At the video store. I'm proud that he's at the
- 1:55:00Speaker 6: video store.
- 1:55:00Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:55:02Speaker 6: That even if you're not renting, you've got to go and.
- 1:55:05Speaker 8: Go scam some used DVDs.
- 1:55:06Speaker 6: Something, yeah.
- 1:55:07Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:55:07Speaker 6: Absolutely.
- 1:55:08Speaker 8: That's sort of where it's come.
- 1:55:09Speaker 5: I mean, now you don't go to rental stores, but
- 1:55:11Speaker 5: there's a lot of used DVD stores out there that
- 1:55:14Speaker 5: have sprung up in their place. So that's kind of
- 1:55:17Speaker 5: the closest thing you can get. You still get to
- 1:55:19Speaker 5: wander around and flip it over and look at the
- 1:55:21Speaker 5: back and look at the horribly done video boxes usually.
- 1:55:25Speaker 8: They're still doing that, mind you.
- 1:55:26Speaker 5: Yeah. There's a couple of them I've seen lately and
- 1:55:29Speaker 5: I'm just like, wow, how can you fuck... I mean,
- 1:55:31Speaker 5: they'll be a perfectly good one-sheet poster and then when they,
- 1:55:34Speaker 5: for some reason, they've always done this when they go
- 1:55:36Speaker 5: to VHS and now when they go to DVD, they
- 1:55:39Speaker 5: decide to pieced together this new version of giant slapped-together
- 1:55:45Speaker 5: Photoshop heads of the people that are in it, usually.
- 1:55:48Speaker 5: I'm just like, oh, how can you take what was
- 1:55:51Speaker 5: like a cool artistic idea and then just slap stars'
- 1:55:55Speaker 5: faces on there with the title?
- 1:55:57Speaker 6: It hurts me. Like I said earlier in the episode,
- 1:56:00Speaker 6: I know the movie by the one sheet or by
- 1:56:03Speaker 6: the box. Don't rehash it and put it in a
- 1:56:05Speaker 6: new box.
- 1:56:05Speaker 3: No.
- 1:56:06Speaker 6: Give me that original one so I know without reading,
- 1:56:09Speaker 6: because I hate reading.
- 1:56:10Speaker 8: Reading? We don't encourage that on the show.
- 1:56:12Speaker 4: Right.
- 1:56:12Speaker 6: I just look at pictures.
- 1:56:13Speaker 3: Come on.
- 1:56:14Speaker 8: That's why we watch movies.
- 1:56:15Speaker 6: That's why we watch movies. I'm sure there's better books
- 1:56:17Speaker 6: out there. I'm not going to read them. Reading.
- 1:56:21Speaker 3: So, anyway.
- 1:56:23Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:56:24Speaker 3: Good.
- 1:56:24Speaker 6: Good for you.
- 1:56:25Speaker 8: So, yeah.
- 1:56:26Speaker 5: I wrote back and said I've made it feel like,
- 1:56:28Speaker 5: you know, I've made a difference in the world.
- 1:56:30Speaker 8: We've changed Sam's life.
- 1:56:31Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:56:32Speaker 6: Hopefully Sam's seen the apple.
- 1:56:35Speaker 8: Or at least hurt us enjoy it enough to get
- 1:56:37Speaker 8: a good one watch out of it. I would get
- 1:56:40Speaker 8: repeated watches out of it.
- 1:56:41Speaker 5: I'm going to continue to show that movie to people
- 1:56:44Speaker 5: because it's amazing.
- 1:56:47Speaker 8: It needs to be.
- 1:56:49Speaker 6: I'm still impressed that they made it in 1980.
- 1:56:50Speaker 8: Yeah, and then it got made, period. Just looking at it,
- 1:56:54Speaker 8: I'm just like, wow, somebody gave them money to do this.
- 1:56:57Speaker 8: That's awesome.
- 1:56:58Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. So, yeah.
- 1:57:00Speaker 6: And why there aren't late night Rocky Horror-like cult followings
- 1:57:05Speaker 6: for the Apple.
- 1:57:05Speaker 8: They're missing it.
- 1:57:06Speaker 4: They are.
- 1:57:07Speaker 8: Fucking midnight show at the Apple.
- 1:57:10Speaker 6: People dressed. Never mind. We'll have them. We can sell them.
- 1:57:15Speaker 5: Actually, the other day I saw there was a, I
- 1:57:17Speaker 5: went to somewhere where I won't go into because we'll
- 1:57:20Speaker 5: probably cover it next week. But I saw somebody with someone.
- 1:57:23Speaker 5: They were doing face painting at this event. And there
- 1:57:26Speaker 5: was somebody that had one, and it looked sort of
- 1:57:28Speaker 5: like a triangle. And for a second, I went, are
- 1:57:30Speaker 5: they wearing a BIM mark?
- 1:57:32Speaker 6: Nice.
- 1:57:33Speaker 5: It was actually a badly drawn triangular-shaped spider web. I
- 1:57:37Speaker 5: guess they're going for some sort of Halloween theme here. But, yeah,
- 1:57:40Speaker 5: from a distance, I thought they had a BIM mark
- 1:57:41Speaker 5: on it. I was like, oh, shit, it started. Soon
- 1:57:44Speaker 5: we'll all be under the BIM influence.
- 1:57:47Speaker 8: The BIM way of life.
- 1:57:56Speaker 2: Don't be shy. We'd like to hear from you. So
- 1:57:59Speaker 2: give us a call at 502-365-5565. Or you can email
- 1:58:04Speaker 2: us at geeksatmoviemeltdown.com. And just stop by the website for
- 1:58:08Speaker 2: our frequent updates. That's moviemeltdown.com.
- 1:58:18Speaker 8: Okay, kids, get out your decoder bins.
- 1:58:21Speaker 5: Do it.
- 1:58:22Speaker 6: Do you want me to do it? I'm just not
- 1:58:25Speaker 6: versed in that. I expect you can just splice in
- 1:58:28Speaker 6: someone else doing it.
- 1:58:29Speaker 8: That'll just confuse people. All of a sudden, Roger sprung
- 1:58:32Speaker 8: up out of nowhere. And Misty did some sort of
- 1:58:35Speaker 8: crazy beatbox number. We'll get to that in a minute.
- 1:58:39Speaker 6: Or not.
- 1:58:41Speaker 8: It's time for the Movie Meltdown Secret Circle reveal of
- 1:58:43Speaker 8: the next feature. And maybe we'll just leave it at that.
- 1:58:50Speaker 8: Next week will be our epic....
- 1:58:54Speaker 2: 100th episode. 100.
- 1:58:56Speaker 8: Monumental that we've made it this far.
- 1:58:58Speaker 6: Triple digits.
- 1:58:59Speaker 8: Yeah, it's pretty damn impressive as far as I'm concerned.
- 1:59:02Speaker 6: You're in a separate tax bracket then.
- 1:59:03Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
- 1:59:05Speaker 8: Wait, I have to pay taxes?
- 1:59:06Speaker 6: Well, yeah, you're making so much money off of this podcast.
- 1:59:09Speaker 5: I can't even afford to buy a new microphone, for
- 1:59:11Speaker 5: God's sakes, which some of these sound terrible.
- 1:59:14Speaker 8: I realize that, guys. But, yeah, there's no more money
- 1:59:17Speaker 8: in the lack of funds, so I don't know what
- 1:59:20Speaker 8: to tell you, but.
- 1:59:22Speaker 5: Somehow, with the taped together equipment here, which I'm not kidding,
- 1:59:26Speaker 5: there's masking tape on our equipment right now.
- 1:59:28Speaker 6: If I turn my head too far to the left,
- 1:59:30Speaker 6: I lose one ear.
- 1:59:31Speaker 5: So, yeah, with the drawbacks and hardships that we have,
- 1:59:36Speaker 5: we've made it to 100 episodes.
- 1:59:37Speaker 4: Yay.
- 1:59:38Speaker 8: Especially with this crew not killing each other.
- 1:59:40Speaker 5: That's all an impressive feat as far as I'm concerned. So,
- 1:59:44Speaker 5: it's also timely as ever that this also hits on
- 1:59:48Speaker 5: our Halloween episode.
- 1:59:49Speaker 8: So, this will be our amazing... scary creepy creepy creepy.
- 1:59:55Speaker 6: Episode expect a couple of people on the show to
- 1:59:58Speaker 6: be hopped up on candy i.
- 1:59:59Speaker 5: Would i'm sure there will be candy and i'm sure
- 2:00:02Speaker 5: somebody if not everyone will eat way too much way
- 2:00:06Speaker 5: too much yeah if i know our crew and i
- 2:00:08Speaker 5: do we like candy and we like self-indulgence so yeah.
- 2:00:13Speaker 6: Giggle fits followed by sugar crashes.
- 2:00:15Speaker 5: Yeah yeah it's that's gonna be the most scary thing
- 2:00:19Speaker 5: on this uh Creeptastic episodes.
- 2:00:24Speaker 4: Oh, but yeah.
- 2:00:25Speaker 8: In the following week, well, we'll just have to see.
- 2:00:28Speaker 5: I think I can go with The Shadow Knows, but
- 2:00:32Speaker 5: then it'll make people think we're going to watch The Shadow.
- 2:00:34Speaker 3: Right.
- 2:00:34Speaker 5: I don't know if anybody's on board for The Shadow,
- 2:00:36Speaker 5: although we have referenced it several times lately, but not yet.
- 2:00:41Speaker 8: I'd be up for it at some point.
- 2:00:42Speaker 5: But yeah, as I said last time out, we're sort
- 2:00:45Speaker 5: of mixing it up and we're not going to tie
- 2:00:48Speaker 5: ourselves down to a two in a row because Lord
- 2:00:51Speaker 5: knows what's going to happen between now and then. And
- 2:00:54Speaker 5: so we'll, we'll tell you next time out and we
- 2:00:56Speaker 5: might throw out some possibilities, uh, for the future, but yeah,
- 2:01:00Speaker 5: we don't even have anything set at this point. So
- 2:01:03Speaker 5: I will probably put the word out once again on
- 2:01:05Speaker 5: Facebook and Twitter as to what we're watching somewhere down
- 2:01:07Speaker 5: the line, just to let you know if you want
- 2:01:09Speaker 5: to watch it ahead of time. So look for it
- 2:01:11Speaker 5: on there. Otherwise, um, you know, Halloween three next week,
- 2:01:15Speaker 5: Halloween three, the wonderful Halloween, episode, including an interview with
- 2:01:21Speaker 5: Tom Atkins.
- 2:01:22Speaker 3: Nice.
- 2:01:23Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 2:01:24Speaker 8: We'll see what he thought of Halloween 3. I still
- 2:01:28Speaker 8: haven't made up my mind yet.
- 2:01:29Speaker 5: I'm going to have to sit down and really try
- 2:01:31Speaker 5: to figure out what's going on in this one.
- 2:01:33Speaker 8: How come there's no Michael Myers?
- 2:01:34Speaker 6: How come there's no Jamie Lee Curtis?
- 2:01:37Speaker 8: Oh, I'm not complaining about that part. I had my
- 2:01:40Speaker 8: fill of her. I don't know. Somehow I was not
- 2:01:43Speaker 8: a fan. She's awesome in the first movie. Again, the
- 2:01:46Speaker 8: first movie's awesome, but yeah.
- 2:01:48Speaker 6: She still considers True Lies to be her best movie.
- 2:01:50Speaker 5: Oh, God.
- 2:01:51Speaker 8: She's terrible.
- 2:01:52Speaker 6: She said that's when she really could be an actress.
- 2:01:56Speaker 4: Oh.
- 2:01:57Speaker 6: Was in True Lies.
- 2:01:58Speaker 2: God.
- 2:02:00Speaker 5: Again, for as many good things as Cameron put together, I.
- 2:02:04Speaker 8: Don't get True Lies.
- 2:02:05Speaker 6: Wasn't Tom Arnold the best thing in that movie?
- 2:02:07Speaker 8: Yeah, he really was, and that's kind of scary. What
- 2:02:10Speaker 8: does that say about a movie when Tom Arnold's the
- 2:02:12Speaker 8: best thing in it? So, yeah. Anyway, sidetracked.
- 2:02:15Speaker 5: So, as far as music, and you may have noticed,
- 2:02:20Speaker 5: we were playing some Childish Gambino, which is actually the pseudonym,
- 2:02:26Speaker 5: the rap name, if you will, for our star this episode, Mr.
- 2:02:29Speaker 8: Donald Glover.
- 2:02:31Speaker 5: He also, aside from the fact that He's a ridiculously
- 2:02:35Speaker 5: talented comedic writer working on 30 Rock, is an actor
- 2:02:39Speaker 5: on Community, making movies, hanging out with Derek Comedy, but
- 2:02:42Speaker 5: he's also a rap star. What the hell can't he do?
- 2:02:47Speaker 5: It's kind of frustrating, really. Renaissance man. Renaissance man. He's
- 2:02:52Speaker 5: still practically a kid, and look what all he's accomplished.
- 2:02:55Speaker 5: It kind of pisses me off, really. Yeah.
- 2:02:57Speaker 6: Here i'm talking about ad ads.
- 2:02:58Speaker 5: It's a good thing i i think he's he's pretty
- 2:03:01Speaker 5: damn impressive because yeah i i'm still kind of praising
- 2:03:04Speaker 5: him quite a bit in this episode but i think
- 2:03:06Speaker 5: he deserves it so yep childish gambino is his rap
- 2:03:10Speaker 5: name and uh all the rest of them have just
- 2:03:12Speaker 5: been his his solo work but uh they he did
- 2:03:15Speaker 5: do one that was a mystery team themed song with
- 2:03:20Speaker 5: guest rapping by mc chris You can't go wrong. I mean,
- 2:03:25Speaker 5: between the two of them, that's got to be awesome.
- 2:03:27Speaker 5: So that's how we'll go out.
- 2:03:29Speaker 8: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next week.
- 2:03:31Speaker 8: Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
- 2:03:34Speaker 9: Bye.
- 2:03:35Speaker 5: Bye.
- 2:03:36Speaker 11: Yes, it is.
- 2:03:37Speaker 8: A crime is a crime.
- 2:03:39Speaker 4: From the tiniest marble that rolls down a storm drain
- 2:03:42Speaker 4: to an autographed baseball that rolls down a storm drain. Now,
- 2:03:46Speaker 4: who's doing this?
- 2:03:47Speaker 8: I'm in.
- 2:03:47Speaker 4: I'm in.
- 2:03:48Speaker 8: To the storm drain.
- 2:03:49Speaker 5: No, Charlie.
- 2:03:50Speaker 4: No.
- 2:03:50Speaker 3: Good morning.
- 2:03:51Speaker 4: Good morning.
- 2:03:53Speaker 7: I gotta take a stand. Nigga, that's who I be. Nigga,
- 2:03:58Speaker 7: that's who I am.
- 2:04:02Speaker 4: I gotta take a stand. Nigga, that's who I be.
- 2:04:05Speaker 7: And I hope that you understand.
- 2:04:10Speaker 4: I'll be riding forever.
- 2:04:17Speaker 3: Yeah!
- 2:04:18Speaker 9: Child is Campino. Hot as the bottom Reno. Niggas that say,
- 2:04:22Speaker 9: what he know? Give me five like I'm Tito. I
- 2:04:25Speaker 9: never touch tequila. I burst it out by Gino. I
- 2:04:29Speaker 9: keep a lightsaber like I fuck around with Greedo. It's
- 2:04:32Speaker 9: time to be a grown up. Nigga, get your own up.
- 2:04:35Speaker 9: See a nigga roaming, riding on the promos. Damn, this
- 2:04:39Speaker 9: beat is so nuts.
- 2:04:41Speaker 4: Thank you, MC DJ.
- 2:04:42Speaker 9: Yeah, my mouth is nasty. Like I gave a DJ.
- 2:04:46Speaker 9: I don't give a fizz up. These niggas, they're out
- 2:04:48Speaker 9: of this up. This nigga is off the is up
- 2:04:50Speaker 9: like walking out of a prison.
- 2:04:52Speaker 4: Mommy, I see the vision. You're fucking with ambition.
- 2:04:56Speaker 9: Casino money like Navajo. Their money's since Geronimo. My money
- 2:05:00Speaker 9: cousin Lado, though. Beat me on that up 13.
- 2:05:03Speaker 8: Call me Mr.
- 2:05:04Speaker 4: Masturbate.
- 2:05:05Speaker 8: Tighter than your jerking grip.
- 2:05:06Speaker 9: You looser than some turkey meat.
- 2:05:08Speaker 4: Haters need to listen up.
- 2:05:10Speaker 9: My attitude's a prostitute who broke cause she don't give
- 2:05:13Speaker 9: a fuck.
- 2:05:13Speaker 4: Good morning. I got to take a stand. Nigga, this
- 2:05:19Speaker 4: is who I be.
- 2:05:19Speaker 7: Nigga, this is who I am. I got to take
- 2:05:23Speaker 7: a stand. Nigga, this is who I be. And I
- 2:05:25Speaker 7: hope that you understand. I'll be riding forever. I'll be
- 2:05:28Speaker 7: riding forever. I'll be riding forever. I'll be riding forever.
- 2:05:33Speaker 4: I'll be riding forever. I'll be riding forever. I'll be
- 2:05:37Speaker 4: riding forever. I'll be riding forever. The game is a fight.
- 2:05:42Speaker 8: What?
- 2:05:42Speaker 4: Okay. Oh, shit. What?
- 2:05:43Speaker 1: What?
- 2:06:05Speaker 14: A crime so all criminals better hold up I'll be
- 2:06:08Speaker 14: riding forever like a vampire on a bus like a
- 2:06:11Speaker 14: roller coaster tester I'll.
- 2:06:13Speaker 4: Be riding till I bust I got.
- 2:06:15Speaker 14: My magnifying glass my bike matches my cup watch my
- 2:06:18Speaker 14: sneakers eat pedo you can dine on the dust whatever
- 2:06:22Speaker 14: it is we can handle but we really don't do
- 2:06:24Speaker 14: murder fuck our suspects gather clues then we break for
- 2:06:27Speaker 14: a cheeseburger no shit Sherlock mad like Murdoch if there's
- 2:06:30Speaker 14: a mystery going on be in it like.
- 2:06:32Speaker 4: Robin Williams chilling good morning being normal This comedy movie.
- 2:07:05Speaker 1: It was not fun to make at all. It was like,
- 2:07:08Speaker 1: so when you're sitting in your living room, yucking it
- 2:07:11Speaker 1: up or in the theater or, you know, you're saying, oh,
- 2:07:14Speaker 1: with your little friends, you.
- 2:07:15Speaker 4: Know, oh, this is so funny.
- 2:07:17Speaker 8: It's not funny.
- 2:07:20Speaker 1: We started making this five years ago. We're still trying
- 2:07:24Speaker 1: to get shit right.
- 2:07:30Speaker 13: I'm going to get some cheese.
- 2:07:31Speaker 4: It's from Crafty.
- 2:07:32Speaker 2: This show is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and
- 2:07:34Speaker 2: edited by Brian Renfro, featuring contact music performed by Tamara Deering.
- 2:07:38Speaker 2: To help support the show, email producer at moviemeltdown.com for
- 2:07:41Speaker 2: ways that you can contribute or advertise with us.